#669 - Riley Green

Riley Green is a country musician and songwriter from Jacksonville, Alabama. His new album “That’s Just Me” is out September 18th and his “Cowboy As It Gets Tour” is happening now. Riley joins Theo to talk about his new job on The Voice, popular Native American canines, and the perks of living slightly off grid in Alabama. Riley Green: https://www.instagram.com/rileyduckman/ ------------------------------------------------- Tour Dates! https://theovon.com/tour New Merch: https://www.theovonstore.com ------------------------------------------------- Sponsored By: Celsius: Go to the Celsius Amazon store to check out all of their flavors. #CELSIUSBrandPartner #CELSIUSLiveFit https://amzn.to/3HbAtPJ Prize Picks: Go to https://link.prizepicks.com/LME0/THEO and use code THEO to get $50 in lineups when you play your first $5 lineup! Play Responsibly. Moonpay: https://moonpay.onelink.me/O2ia/t34p5kxg Tecovas: Get 10% off at http://tecovas.com/THEO when you sign up for email and texts. Blue Chew: Discover your options at http://BlueChew.com! Buy two months and get the third for FREE with promo code THEO. Perplexity AI: Ask anything at https://pplx.ai/theo Watch on Spotify. Spotify subscribers get fewer ads on our episodes. ------------------------------------------------- Music: “Shine” by Bishop Gunn Bishop Gunn - Shine ------------------------------------------------ Submit your funny videos, TikToks, questions and topics you'd like to hear on the podcast to: [email protected] Hit the Hotline: 985-664-9503 Video Hotline for Theo Upload here: https://www.theovon.com/fan-upload Mail stuff to: ATTN: TPW PO BOX 40137 Nashville TN 37204 ------------------------------------------------ Find Theo: Website: https://theovon.com Instagram: https://instagram.com/theovon Facebook: https://facebook.com/theovon Facebook Group: https://www.facebook.com/groups/thispastweekend X: https://twitter.com/theovon YouTube: https://youtube.com/theovon Clips Channel: https://www.youtube.com/c/TheoVonClips Shorts Channel: https://bit.ly/3ClUj8z ------------------------------------------------ Producer: Zach https://www.instagram.com/zachdpowers Producer: Trevyn https://www.instagram.com/trevyn.s/ Producer: Nick https://www.instagram.com/realnickdavis/ Producer: Andrew https://www.instagram.com/bleachmediaofficial/ Producer: Halston https://www.instagram.com/halstonrays/ Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 1:03Speaker 01

  Today's guest is a country musician and songwriter from Jacksonville, Alabama. His new album, That's Just Me, is out September 18th. And he's currently on his Cowboy As It Gets Tour. Just a reminder, you can watch video versions of our episodes on Spotify as well, if you didn't know that. I had a time with today's guest. I'm glad that he brought the humor. Mr. Riley Green.

• 1:47Speaker 02

  It's nice when I get home too, to get on a bulldozer or something and go clear. Man, that's the most relaxing thing in the world.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Is it?

• 1:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, get on a bulldozer and go out there and start clearing a road.

• 1:57Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  And you don't realize how far you've been until you get off it to walk back to your car, you know? But it's just pushing trees over and clearing fields.

• 2:04Speaker 01

  God, just, yeah. Except the animals are like, here comes, look, we love his music, but this guy's.

• 2:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, that's pretty fair. Of course, I'm, I'm making like a field. I'm gonna plant some food for him, man, you know?

• 2:15Speaker 01

  Okay, so the, yeah, so some of it's just rezoning for them.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's all.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, all it is just, yeah. It's like, look, guys, we're, we're kind of.

• 2:21Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna put a parking lot or a Kmart there. It's gonna be like, you know, it's a field. Yeah, I'll leave him some shade trees.

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Sorry, man, I'm acting like you're the bad guy.

• 2:31Speaker 02

  I was like, but you, you made me the, the developer on Fern Gully. It's like burning the woods down. Like, I'm not doing, I'm making it nicer. Like I dug a lake, like threw him somewhere for him to swim.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  Oh, God, that'd be beautiful.

• 2:44Speaker 02

  You made me the man.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, I freaking, yeah, I made you the bad guy.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  You made me like the, the bad guy on the, what's the movie with the blue people?

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Avatar.

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, you made me that guy. It's like just destroying the forest. And I'm, I'm like making it nicer for the animals.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You're down there repurposed, yeah, man. God, I gotta, I gotta get in prayer. I gotta get in the word. I mean.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  What you gotta do is get on a bulldozer.

• 3:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Come down there and get on a tractor. You figure your life out down there doing that.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  Do you?

• 3:09Speaker 02

  Well, what do you do?

• 3:12Speaker 02

  But what, what is your thing that, that you say is your biggest disconnect from all this? What do you do?

• 3:22Speaker 01

  I don't honestly.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  See, that's the problem.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Right. I don't have an immediate answer. I would probably say, I would say, probably working out or going for a walk, probably.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  Okay, well, that's, that's definitely one of them, but like, you're still thinking about.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  You're still in it, you know what I mean?

• 3:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, if I go for a walk with a good friend, it's, that's more like just kind of like contemplating, discussing stuff. But I agree, having some, having like, it's time for me to kind of like, uh, find some other outlets and stuff, you know? And I just got off a tour and so that's like, this is one of the first times where it's like, well, who am I, you know?

• 3:56Speaker 02

  What do I do with myself?

• 3:57Speaker 01

  Oh, both of them. Who am I and what do I do with myself? Like, you know, not in a, not in a whiny way, but it just like kind of hit me like that. It's like, okay, so it's time for me to like, kind of embrace some of those. But just so people know, I think we started in, you, you said you have like, you guys got a couple thousand acres down there in Alabama?

• 4:12Speaker 02

  I bought, I've got 1,780 right now that all touches. But I bought it in like little pieces here. Every time I go down there, I'm calling my neighbors up, see if anybody wants to sell anything. But my granddaddy Buford's brother, my uncle Bill, had some property that I grew up running around on. It was 141 acres and I bought that first. And then just since then, I've grown it and it's a, just a never ending project. I mean, you go out there, I'll go home and it kind of keeps me sane on the road too, because I'll be thinking about, man, when I get home, I'm gonna take the D3 over here and clear this one field off or make this road around the outside of the property so I can go in here. Or I'm gonna dig a lake over here. So you're just constantly creative. Cause there's, I mean, everything you do is making the land more valuable, you know? So.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  And you have a crew that does that with you?

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Uh, my dad and his brother used to frame houses. My dad was a carpenter and he's 70 now. So, I mean, they're, they're both pretty old and kind of beat down. So I let them work around the farm and just, you know, run tractors and all that. And they love that kind of work. And I got a couple of buddies I used to do construction work with that helped me out out there. So there's always something going on, but when I get home, like, you know, when you get on a tractor like that, you're not, I have your phone. I mean, you forget about it, you know?

• 5:22Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 5:23Speaker 02

  And then going out there and, and you get caught up in what you're doing. And I've always enjoyed the kind of work where you can see what you did at the end of the day.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Amen.

• 5:30Speaker 02

  I love that about construction work, but that's something you don't get in what we do. Like, yeah, there's a lot of accolades and, and big moments and highs out of it. But as far as like, what we do never has an end. You're never finished with what we're doing. Like, there's little things you say, okay, well, that went well, check, I'll go to the next thing. But like, being on tour is, you know, my tour doesn't end. We, we just tour till holidays get here and people stop coming to shows and we start back around February, you know? So it's nice to have something that you can finish.

• 5:58Speaker 01

  Amen. Yeah, yeah. Having that justification, like, just like, looking back, seeing something, the day is done, the sun, you know what I'm saying? Like you can feel the evening coming in. You're like, okay, that's time. Yeah, I used to work on a, on a soybean farm over there in, um, near like Vidalia, Louisiana, right over on the Louisiana Mississippi border over there. And that was, those are some of the best days, man.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  It was tough work, but you like, I, I still go back and frame a little bit with my buddy Bill. I just to remind myself what it was like.

• 6:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, I just loved, whether they had me painting or just like moving seed or just like, cleaning spray rigs, just whatever it was, man. It, there was just something like, yeah, there was something real rewarding about it.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  And you could also, like, I could be hungover or whatever it was and be having a bad day. I could get through a day at work doing that, but this, you have to be happy every day. If you gotta at least act like you are.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  I can't get on stage and, you know, be up, so I gotta be enjoying myself because everybody's there to see me and they want to see that. So it's, uh, it's nice to be able to go over there and kind of cut loose on something like that.

• 6:57Speaker 01

  Well, look, welcome to this podcast, dude, because I've, I've spent probably a third of my life whining on this bitch about shit, so.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  I'll whine with you.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:04Speaker 02

  What do you want to complain about? I know one thing I'm gonna complain about on this podcast, you have no coffee maker here.

• 7:10Speaker 01

  Oh, we don't have a coffee.

• 7:11Speaker 02

  I'm sending you one. There's gonna, I own it right here.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  You were in my kitchen. Yeah, you saw it.

• 7:15Speaker 02

  I don't have one. I looked, I looked through every closet in your house. I, you don't have, there's not one here. I looked through all your stuff.

• 7:20Speaker 01

  Hey, look, I ain't making coffee in the closet. I'm not doing anything in the closet, dude. I'm out, yeah.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  You're out.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  I like women. But yeah, the last thing I'd be doing in there, dude, if I'm in the closet so long that I'm making coffee in there.

• 7:31Speaker 02

  It's been a while, yeah.

• 7:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess I'd be, but sometimes you have a tough time picking out an outfit or whatever. And I'd just say outfit, let's keep it moving.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  Outfit, yeah. Shirt.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  Picking out a shirt.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  It really is a shirt.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  What made you pick that one today?

• 7:43Speaker 01

  I tried on another one. I took it downstairs. It was just, it was a little, felt a little more formal and then I was like.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  That feels right. I feel like that, I see, I took it like you wore that because I was coming. Well, I appreciate it.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  I feel, it just felt right, man. Dude, you remember I saw you, uh, good to see you, man.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, see you, man. We're doing this interview backwards.

• 8:00Speaker 01

  Thanks for coming. Yeah, dude, this is how it goes in here.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  By the way, I'm Riley Green.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, ladies and gentlemen, Riley Green.

• 8:07Speaker 02

  This past weekend.

• 8:09Speaker 01

  Thanks for coming, bro. I appreciate it.

• 8:12Speaker 02

  We've been talking about doing it for a while.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, we have been. And this is good, man. And, uh, I saw you, remember I went to your surprise party? You remember that?

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, but I, I don't think you were invited technically. Yeah. I think you came in and got a piece of cake and left, honestly, is what happened.

• 8:28Speaker 01

  Okay, that could be true, but I remember though, like you weren't in a, I don't think a surprise party.

• 8:33Speaker 02

  I hated it.

• 8:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  I don't like surprises.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 8:35Speaker 02

  I, I always.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Cause I walked in, I, I thought it was your sister. Somebody's like, you know, sometimes over there at Losers will be like, yeah, you know, it's a Riley's surprise party, you know, we gotta go.

• 8:45Speaker 02

  Don't say sometimes, like it happens a lot. That was the one time that happened.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  Good point.

• 8:49Speaker 02

  Sometimes Riley's having a surprise party. No, and it'll never happen again.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  But sometimes you'll be there and they'll be like, this is going on there. So we got all, so people will make like the, um, the mecca or whatever, the, the, the, you know, the journey over to your bar, which is right next door.

• 9:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you had to go in the back door. You had to sneak up the back.

• 9:08Speaker 01

  I'll go to the back, but you were heading in. So they're like, yeah, it's a surprise party. Don't say nothing. I'm like, I'm not saying nothing. I don't even know him that good, you know? And then we all walked in and people yelled surprise.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  People thought you did. You were at my surprise party. Yeah. I thought you planned the whole thing.

• 9:22Speaker 01

  People thought I was in it, man.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  I, I'll give my management.

• 9:25Speaker 01

  I picked out the cake, you know, it's.

• 9:27Speaker 02

  It was great. I mean, you ate some of it.

• 9:29Speaker 01

  I took two pieces off. I took two pieces off.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  Sounds right. You, okay, this is no joke. You literally got invited to my podcast, my, uh, surprise party last minute, walk in, take two pieces of cake and leave.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  That's what happened.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  Amen, brother.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's cool.

• 9:44Speaker 01

  When we got in there, I was like, well, shit, if you don't even want to be at a surprise party, then I'm gonna get my, I'm gonna head on.

• 9:50Speaker 02

  I just don't need to be surprised to enjoy something like, for me, I don't get to see my family and friends that often. I'm traveling all the time. So if you gathered everybody, just tell me and we'll go over there and we'll, it's enough that they're there.

• 10:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:01Speaker 02

  You know, I, I give my manager a hard time because, uh, I won ACM award in, uh, 2020. And they called me and they're like, hey, you need to do a Zoom with the label. And so I come, I don't have the computer, so I go over to their place and they got it all set up. And there's my president, my label and the vice president, everybody. And I'm like, what are we talking about? And then Keith Urban comes on, I was like, hey, Riley. I'm like, hey, he's like, you want to come to, what are you doing on August 8th or whatever? You want to come to the ACM wars? I was like, yeah.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  And why's he asking you?

• 10:32Speaker 02

  Well, because he was the host, I guess. But my point is, why didn't they just tell me? And I could have been like, oh, like surprised. Then there was all these articles about how Raleigh Green won an ACM Award and couldn't care less. Cause I just was confused.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  So just get, you know, don't, I can act surprised.

• 10:45Speaker 01

  Right. But yeah.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Just tell me about it.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, tell me a little earlier. If you tell me 10 minutes early, I'll just be like, yeah, I'll like, oh.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. That was good. I believe that.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  You did?

• 10:56Speaker 02

  How you looked when I got here.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  That was, that wasn't too bad.

• 10:59Speaker 02

  When I walked in, oh, no, you're coming. What about me and you trying to schedule this was really stressful for everybody involved, you know what? Everybody in my team's like, so are you doing? I was like, hell, I don't know. I think we just said we should do this.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  Well, we were supposed to do, here's what was happening. We did. You and I decided we're gonna do it.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  Your schedule also got different because you now are heading out to LA because you're working on The Voice now.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:20Speaker 01

  So that started to happen. And then there was supposed to, we were supposed to have Conor McGregor supposed to be on. And there was this looming moment where it was like.

• 11:27Speaker 02

  You had to pick. Then you picked me. Okay.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  I didn't. His schedule was super top, his, you know.

• 11:31Speaker 02

  You can lie to me for the sake of the.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  Oh, I'd lie to you. But I'd just soon tell you the truth. It's just, right now, it's easier.

• 11:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  But there's just like a lot of little moving parts.

• 11:40Speaker 02

  If he comes while I'm here, are you gonna make me leave and come back another time?

• 11:43Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  Maybe you'll bring coffee. Honestly, if he comes and realizes you don't have coffee, he might leave.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  Bro, I didn't know you said this much stuff. I always feel like you're kind of a quiet guy, man. That's my bad read on you, you know?

• 11:56Speaker 02

  I used to talk a lot when I got coffee, you know what I mean? I'll probably start fading here soon. What, uh, so you, you want me to do the interview? What, uh?

• 12:05Speaker 01

  No, I got things.

• 12:06Speaker 02

  Okay. I just, I didn't know if you like studied up or whatever.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, man. I studied up, dude. I got a good plan. I got a, yeah, I got a strategy ahead of me, you know? It's mild, but it is what it is, you know?

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Well, listen, if you, if you start to run out of stuff, just give me the, and I'll.

• 12:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 12:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude. Yeah, if I need some help, I'm definitely, it'd be nice. I get a little help from Raleigh Green.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  Everything's good?

• 12:28Speaker 01

  Everything's pretty good, man. What was I doing this morning? I was texting with John Party this morning. He's.

• 12:32Speaker 02

  I like that dude.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  He's going out on tour. He interesting guy, isn't he?

• 12:36Speaker 02

  I've been a big fan of him for a long time.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  Unique voice, like his, everything's a, just kind of like an interesting guy.

• 12:41Speaker 02

  He's, he, I've always used him as an example. When I signed a record deal and started having songs on the radio, I think the toughest thing to do is to be commercial enough that radio play it. And then also still unique and cool enough that it's a good song and not just cheesy. He's always done a good job of that. He's had a lot of, lot of big songs.

• 12:59Speaker 01

  Agreed, man. He's, yeah, he's an authentic dude, man. And he's just.

• 13:02Speaker 02

  Man, I know you put pictures up, people weren't talking about him.

• 13:04Speaker 01

  He's an interesting guy.

• 13:06Speaker 02

  I've got a picture of me opening for him in Mobile, Alabama, at the Soul Kitchen from like 2006.

• 13:11Speaker 01

  Is that where you started out in there? Well, I know you started in Alabama, but at the Soul Kitchen, is that like a pop, is that a popular spot? I'm not familiar with it.

• 13:18Speaker 02

  Uh, it's on Dolphin Street. I mean, yeah, it's, it was like one of the clubs you come up playing, you know?

• 13:22Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  It was a big deal for me to play at. I opened for Chris Cagle there, Corey Smith there, John Party, several people. And then eventually I got where I was headlining it and then moved to the Sanger and then went down and played at the Florabama and.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  That Sanger's nice over there.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  It is cool, yeah.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. You played at Florabama during, uh, spring break times?

• 13:39Speaker 02

  I played Florabama forever. Hundred and fifty dollars a show, played for four hours, you get one free drink per break. And you get, uh, play 45 minutes at a time. And I, I remember John McGinnis, that owns the Florabama, is a good buddy of mine. And he asked me to come down and play during spring break every day for three weeks. It was like Alabama spring break one week, LSU one week, you know? And the LSU folks love it up there.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Oh, they love it anywhere, dude.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  It's true.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  Anywhere where something is fermented enough where they can make alcohol out of it.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  It's fermented down there.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  They love it.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  I had to set my own tent up on the beach. And it was like, I'd be in the shade for about an hour and then I'd have to move it, you know? Nobody down there listened to me. And I played every day from 12 to 4.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  Wait, you'd play under a tent on the beach?

• 14:23Speaker 02

  Like a, like a tent you camp with, like a, you know, a tailgating tent.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  And I had to set my own speakers up and everything. I played from 12 to 4 every day. And then I would go back to the river house across the road where they would keep the bands. Bands would come in and play that night and I would go party with them. And I did that every day for three weeks and it about killed me. Definitely took 10 years off my life.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  Playing that early shift.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, and then staying up all night, too. I would like mosey down to the beach and get there in time to play at noon the next day.

• 14:47Speaker 01

  Oh, I'd be partying down there, dude. Oh, I remember partying down there. We, they, we buried a guy in the sand. I don't know if he's.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  Still there?

• 14:55Speaker 01

  I don't, I haven't heard from him.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  Kind of Weekend at Bernie's situation?

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Look, dude, I'll say this. He wasn't that great of a guy anyway.

• 15:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:01Speaker 01

  To be honest with you. And I know that and I'll tell his daddy that. But, yeah, we've had some, I mean, who didn't have some times down there?

• 15:08Speaker 02

  Some pretty epic stories down there. Broke a guy's arm one time, arm wrestling in Florabama.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  Uh-uh. For what? Just for fun or for money?

• 15:14Speaker 02

  No, I mean, I didn't do it on purpose. Uh, and I wasn't for money. I was playing a show. And I took a break and I go over on the side and these guys were like, man, you're a pretty big old boy. Let's arm wrestle. That's for whatever reason, that's what we grew up doing. You know, my dad and his brother and all them. And, uh, I beat two or three guys and they were like, man, we're gonna get somebody to, and they brought this dude over. He was probably 40. You know, and he's all jacked up and somebody videoed it and his arm just snapped.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:41Speaker 01

  Was that a popular video that went around? I'm trying to think. I remember seeing that.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  You want, I mean, like, we can show you right now, right? Let me, oh, there you go. You gotta listen to it, though.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  Oh, come on.

• 15:49Speaker 02

  You gotta have the sound up.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, bro. Stop, dude. That's enough, man. Sorry.

• 16:00Speaker 02

  How'd he find that so fast?

• 16:02Speaker 01

  Huh? I don't know, bro. We got it.

• 16:04Speaker 02

  It's on the internet.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, dude.

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. I love that movie, Over the Top, you know?

• 16:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  He turned his hat around. He was serious about it.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Oh, that was a movie. I forgot about that film, man. That was a good one. Um, you mentioned John Party. What about, uh, Red Clay Strays? Did you come up around them? They were always out and about.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  They were a little bit, I mean, I was already here, I guess, by the time they were kind of touring around Alabama, but, uh, it's always a good sign when you hear somebody's name or a band, and then you keep hearing it over and over again before they've gotten to a place where they're really recognized. You know, on, on radio and award shows and all that. And now it's awesome because they've made it there.

• 16:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:38Speaker 02

  They're winning awards and, and what a cool thing.

• 16:42Speaker 01

  The town that you grew up in, what was the, uh, how big was it? Jacksonville, I know it.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't know how many people. I mean, there was a college there and the colleges, and I think it was around 8,000 when I was going to school.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  What college was it?

• 16:56Speaker 02

  Jacksonville State.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:00Speaker 02

  But it was, uh, I mean, it was a really small town, but school wasn't in. And I grew up in a community right outside of there called Pleasant Valley and Williams Community. And it's one flash and light, one store called Green Store, E.L. Green runs stores, 94 years old.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  Still there?

• 17:13Speaker 02

  Doesn't charge tax. Yeah, he just guesses what everything costs.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  Oh, I love it. Bring it up.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  Snickers up there. He'd be like, it's $2. And next to him, it'd be $2.50, you know? But all my granddads and their brothers used to go out and play dominoes in the morning. Before work, we'd stop in there and it's a cool little vibe. Hadn't changed much either. Look at that. There's, there's E.L. right there. You got a picture of him.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  So was he related to you?

• 17:31Speaker 02

  Probably. Look at this dude.

• 17:33Speaker 01

  Probably.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  That guy's a legend.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  No way, that's him?

• 17:37Speaker 02

  I saw him yesterday.

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Dang, I wanna go see him.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Come on. My dad, uh, said they bought their basketball shoes there. They played in Converse All-Stars. He sells Converse All-Stars and.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  Those shoes are horrible to play in.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  Oh, it's like begging to break your ankle.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  And you slide. You just slide everywhere. I don't know how they did it. They must use a different type of, maybe some type of turpentine.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what old Benny the Jet Rodriguez using things, though. You know who that is?

• 18:02Speaker 01

  Uh-uh.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  Remember on Sandlot, the guy that jumped the fence?

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  He put those, those black ones. There he is.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  What'd he put on?

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Man, this, hey, your man is quick.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  He's crushing today.

• 18:12Speaker 02

  This is easy to do an interview like this.

• 18:14Speaker 01

  Oh, he's doing it.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  You just say anything and.

• 18:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, look at those. What are those? What were those, something Flyers or something?

• 18:18Speaker 02

  PF Flyers.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  PF Flyers, bro. PF Flyers were a real shoe.

• 18:23Speaker 02

  No doubt.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  We had those ones that would, remember when those shoes came out that would blink or whatever?

• 18:28Speaker 02

  You talking about light up shoes?

• 18:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. And everybody would just call you like a queer all the time.

• 18:32Speaker 02

  Did, did they say that?

• 18:33Speaker 01

  What? Yeah.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Why would they say that?

• 18:36Speaker 01

  I don't know. Cause your shoes were dang blinking. I, I get it a little bit. Or people are like, your feet are gay or whatever.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Well, I don't guess I had any. Those were probably expensive shoes. I probably, my parents wouldn't buy me those.

• 18:47Speaker 01

  Were your parents, what were they like? Growing up? Pretty strict over there? Or what was it? What was it like? I mean, it sounds like just a good, small town environment. It sounds just like a real kind of American, southern environment.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, there, there's a lot about where I grew up that just kind of looks like a movie, like going back in time, you know? I'll bring people down there and they'll be like, man, it's really like this, you know? Uh, my dad built houses. My mom was a school teacher. Uh, my, I never got away with anything. Mom caught me anything I ever did. Pops built houses for a living and I used to go out and work with him when I wasn't playing ball. So I tried to play any sport I could to keep from having to work. I was really lucky. My, all four of my grandparents lived in the same town. So I saw my grandparents every day. So I was really close with all them.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  That's awesome, man.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  And do you think that's what led you to, uh, writing Grandpa's Never Die? That's just a lot of like, that's a lot of influence of why, of why Grandpa's Never Die.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Uh, my, my granddaddy Buford loved country music. He'd sit around with the old Epiphone guitar when I was a kid and we'd sit around and kind of play. And we ended up turning his parents' house, my great grandparents, into a music hall. And on Friday nights, all these old people would come out there and play and tell jokes. And I'd sit around and watch how they made chords and learn how to play like that. But, yeah, that's my granddaddy Buford. And my, my granddaddy Lyndon was a big fisherman, golfer. So I'd hang out with them every day. And I wrote the song about him as a tribute. And then, of course, it became a big hit for me. And I ended up putting both of them as co-writers on the song. So.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Dude, that's awesome.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  Songwriter credit for it.

• 20:12Speaker 01

  Bro, they must have felt, I mean, they must be so proud, huh?

• 20:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, my granddaddy Buford died in 2010. So he didn't really get to see me, you know, like have any real success. I was kind of starting out with music. But my granddaddy Lyndon got to come see me at the Opry. My grandmother Nancy did. My grandmother Lola Jean's still alive. So she's probably cutting grass right now. She loves it.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  That's awesome. Yeah, man. I miss, I definitely miss things about like that at home, man. Dude, what, dude, what if Grandpa's Never did die? You ever think about that?

• 20:43Speaker 01

  Like, cause there would be some side effects of it. There would obviously.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Okay, so everything in that song, there are side effects too. There's a, if every road was named Copperhead.

• 20:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:51Speaker 02

  It'd be really hard to get anywhere.

• 20:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Really confusing, you know?

• 20:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 20:55Speaker 02

  Coolers never ran out of beer, people, alcohol poisoning.

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, people would be, yeah, and then they'd be out on the roads.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  High school home teams never lost, everybody'd be 500 at the end of the season, you know?

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  So there are problems. Like, if you wanna just pick apart the songs that I write, we can.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  No, I'm not picking it all, man.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  Uh, I wish Grandpa's Never Died is, yeah.

• 21:12Speaker 01

  It, first of all, it's one of my favorite songs.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 21:14Speaker 01

  And, second of all, but no, I do think, like, yeah, if they never died, first of all, what would never, inheritance would never start. That'd piss some people off.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, but only people with rich grandpas.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  Right, but.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  Cause I mean, I, you know.

• 21:26Speaker 01

  But even if you had a shitty grandpa, if he had fifty dollars, you knew you was getting a little waterfall.

• 21:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, but grandpas always give you a little walking around money.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  A lot of them with that other pocket. Some of them, my grandpa would only reach into one of his pocket and I knew in that other pocket he had.

• 21:38Speaker 02

  That's where it was?

• 21:39Speaker 01

  Oh, that's.

• 21:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, my granddaddy always had a two dollar bill that had.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, that was popular.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Had a picture of Bill Clinton blowing a whistle on it. So it was not real, but he'd give me that a lot.

• 21:47Speaker 01

  But he'd give you that?

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  That's a good idea, giving fake money to children.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  Um.

• 21:52Speaker 02

  Well, you know, it keeps them out of trouble.

• 21:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a good point.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, what if grandpas, I'm trying to think of just some other interesting facts.

• 21:58Speaker 02

  If grandpas never died.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  Just like if they never died. Um.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Well, so a positive, I think, would be the, the things that I do miss about that generation was like, they were hard workers.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  You know, I always say I was kinda the last generation to like work with my dad. Like, my buddies didn't, but like, you know, now, I mean, I don't know that people get out of high school and college and really have to bust it anywhere. You know, there's a certain amount of like, work ethic that's lost a little bit.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I think, and also a lot of the trades, I mean, one thing, like, we've had Mike Rowe in here a few times, and he talks a lot about how there's not enough, um, viable tradesmen right now. Like, there's jobs.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  There's just not people that can fill them that have the skill sets, you know?

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, we could be working and we're just talking.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  You know?

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  And also, I thought Mike Rowe lived in my house for most of my childhood. My dad watched Dirty Jobs and Deadliest Catch every day.

• 22:52Speaker 01

  Oh, dude, that guy. He's a, yeah, listen to his voice, it just, it makes you feel like you gotta fill out a job application. Every time I hear Mike Rowe's voice, I'll fill one out online.

• 23:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:02Speaker 01

  You know, or I'll buy a damn, just buy a, like a Quick Creed or something.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  Just, just in case.

• 23:06Speaker 01

  Just, yeah, I just feel like something could happen.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  See, that's what I'm talking about, though. You, you go down to Alabama, and you get up and you're like, man, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna, I'm gonna build a little pen and buy some goats. And then you just go to the store and buy, you make a list.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  And you make it happen.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  And then you go and you dig the holes and like, you're not thinking about anything else when you do that.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh dude, I think there's like, I do think with society, sometimes we took a very errant path out into like existence, you know, like this, like, you know, and I think there also became like a greed, you know, there's this, greed has a lot to do with that. I think when somebody wants to keep leveling up, you know, so, but I think, I think we'll, we will look back at some point, or generations in the future will look back and be like, man, we were missing out on a lot of the things in life that really mean something, you know?

• 23:54Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I, I mean, it's social media that's caused it, the, the amount of comparison you have to somebody else.

• 23:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  Also, let's talk about how me and you were talking like a couple of grandpas now about the younger generation, like, man, these kids now, they don't, they don't know, man, they don't know what it was like, you know? Uh, I mean, like, when I was growing up, I had a phone, it didn't do anything.

• 24:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:12Speaker 02

  You could call. If you wanted to send a K, you had to press six, seven times, you know, like, it was tough. And I didn't have social media or anything. Now, all, all they've known is, and I, I remember people I thought were rich growing up.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  But now everybody seems rich. There's like a handful of people that had money in my town. I was like, man, those, big time, you know?

• 24:31Speaker 01

  Oh dude, if somebody had a garage, dude, we had this one kid, Jeremy, and he.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  It's always Jeremy.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  He got a garage, and we were like, look at this mother, you know, we couldn't believe it. And, but then dude, two days later, we're over there just doing the door up and down and running back and forth.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Oh, it had an automatic door?

• 24:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  Oh, that's wild.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  He got the real deal, dude. But yeah, man, dude, what was I reading the other day? That the first nine one one call was in Alabama. Did you know that?

• 25:01Speaker 02

  Domestic dispute.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  I, it could have been domestic, I think it was people, two people fighting over a baked bean recipe, probably. I mean, I don't know what.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  They didn't get it.

• 25:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:10Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 25:11Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  It's sealed down there, really?

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  Try to get a recipe in Alabama, how dare you?

• 25:15Speaker 01

  They wouldn't, the, the government wouldn't unseal it, that's hilarious.

• 25:18Speaker 02

  Not on our watch.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Hayleyville, Alabama, nineteen sixty-eight.

• 25:23Speaker 01

  There you go, the very first.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  We started it. We launched the standard across the United States.

• 25:28Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's good or bad. Like, things were kinda getting a little rocky down there. Like, look, we gotta figure out a way to get help over here quicker. I, or it could have been, dude, it could have been just, look, somebody's like, you know, I, there is a guy over here just hugging his sister in like a, in the worst way.

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Nice.

• 25:44Speaker 01

  You know? I mean, there's just, hey, yes, officer, there is a man over here, I mean, and he is just hugging his sister.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean.

• 25:53Speaker 01

  I just don't know what that, I mean, that nine one one call could have been anything, you know?

• 25:57Speaker 02

  Honestly, what would that hug have to look like? You're sitting over there just crushing the heater.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:01Speaker 02

  In Walmart parking lot, you see somebody hugging, you know their brother's sister, you go, that's a little too long.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's a little.

• 26:07Speaker 02

  Honey, give me the phone. I'm gonna call this in.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:12Speaker 02

  It'd be out of town or they'd call it in, I'll tell you that.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, it would be.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  And it wouldn't be somebody from Louisiana. I'll go ahead and tell you that too. Louisiana, Mississippi's not making that call.

• 26:20Speaker 01

  They'd be like, hey, these people are stealing our style. That's what they would say, bro. They're stealing our vibe.

• 26:25Speaker 02

  Smoking a cigarette, holding a baby.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, oh god. Dude, I remember, and I've told this story, but we had this lady, Ms. Robin, and she was like our teacher. She was like our, um.

• 26:34Speaker 02

  She sounds like a teacher, Ms. Robin.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, good call. And she was, oh, damn.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  Cooking me today, man. Uh, and she would, uh, well, the other kids would do nap time, right? But I didn't really believe in nap time. I just, I wanted to get busy and get out of.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, I got that.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  I was ready to get to work.

• 26:52Speaker 02

  I was probably like that, yeah.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  Even as a kid, I was like, what are we fucking doing? We're barely, nobody's doing shit. We gotta take a break from that.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  You get old and realize nap time was for them, not for you.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 27:01Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? That was their break.

• 27:03Speaker 01

  Dang.

• 27:04Speaker 02

  Lay down for a little while.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:06Speaker 02

  You need a nap. You know what I mean?

• 27:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm gonna hit this heater. And that's what she would do though, Ms. Robin, though, she knew I didn't sleep, and we had similar hair. And so she would come and kinda hit me with her foot, and that meant I could go outside, and she would, and, uh, she'd light up a cigarette and,

• 27:23Speaker 01

  um, and I would just lean on her car tire and she would just tell me about her.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  Smoke and look at you?

• 27:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, just, she would just, just, and she would just tell me stuff about her husband or something, Roger, and he wasn't doing shit.

• 27:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:34Speaker 01

  And she would just.

• 27:35Speaker 02

  Most Rogers aren't.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  Hey, listen to this, this, this always bothers.

• 27:42Speaker 01

  Well, I got the laughs today, but I'm glad I do, man. Thanks for coming in.

• 27:45Speaker 02

  You know, thanks for having me. And, uh, thank, yeah, we'll get some coffee coming shortly. The, uh, you know what bothers me? When.

• 27:52Speaker 01

  What bothers you, Riley? Cause I bet it's a lot, but go on.

• 27:54Speaker 02

  One thing that really bothers me a lot, how do you look at a baby and name it Roger?

• 27:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:01Speaker 02

  Like, my granddaddy's name was Buford. How did you look at a baby and say, that's Buford?

• 28:07Speaker 01

  That Buford right there.

• 28:08Speaker 02

  There's, you know what I mean?

• 28:09Speaker 01

  But in the South.

• 28:10Speaker 02

  And then like, think about your, playing with the kid when he was like ten, and you're another kid, you're like, Buford, get over here. Like, that's wild.

• 28:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. We had a fella named Fremont by us, and people thought he was rich or whatever, gay, just cause his name was like real high end.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  Rich or gay?

• 28:25Speaker 01

  People thought.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  One of the two, did his shoes light up?

• 28:29Speaker 01

  They did.

• 28:29Speaker 02

  Did they roll?

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Oh, those wheelie shoes?

• 28:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:33Speaker 01

  Those are the best, and we saw a kid doing that. That was a little after my generation. So, I feel like, I don't know if we had those, I would see kids have those. They had the Reebok pumps, some of those, people would pump those shoes.

• 28:42Speaker 02

  I like the Reebok. I feel like I've always judged my shoes and clothing as in like, would the version of me that doesn't wear that kick the ass of the version that did? You know what I mean?

• 28:54Speaker 01

  Wait, say it one more time for me.

• 28:55Speaker 02

  So like, the version of me that wears wheelie shoes.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  Would get his ass beat by the version that didn't. You know what I mean?

• 29:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  That's why I make decisions in life.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  And then you go with what, you're like, that's not for me.

• 29:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  Got it, yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  What's the worst, uh, what's one of the best or worst bar fights you ever saw out there? Yeah, for sure.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Hell, yeah. About to get into a different gear now.

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• 31:53Speaker 02

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• 31:59Speaker 01

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• 32:01Speaker 02

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  Oh, it's nice, man. I mean, look, it's been, I mean, one of my goals this year is to try and learn more stuff and get a little bit more involved in kind of what's going on like in the universe. Since I'm not touring, I have a little bit more time to absorb some things and, and just to want to do that, you know?

• 32:16Speaker 02

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• 32:21Speaker 01

  I think, no, just consume more like different types of artist's work, right? Different films, just absorb more stuff. So it's like I have more things to like think about and talk about.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  Well, I can comprehend that. You're probably like me in that I don't listen to as much new music as I used to before I got in this world. Not necessarily because I'm burnt out on it and not really because I'm like, I don't want to get, you know, drawn to something that's going to influence me to be like that. I just, I don't know. I just, I think I'm busy and don't pay attention to it like I used to. I don't have a passion for it like I did. But, I mean, like you don't probably watch a lot of stand up or, I mean, isn't it weird that you get removed from it when you're in it? You know, I feel like, I feel that way with me.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  That's a good point. Yeah, you think you're in it, so there'd be, you'd be in more of it.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  You just got so much of your own stuff you gotta be concerned with that I don't, yeah.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  There's a lot that goes into it, especially once you get to touring and like with podcasts and like I'll sit and watch through every single episode. Like I was up last night till probably, you know, 11.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  Watching yours.

• 33:19Speaker 01

  Putting notes on an episode, like giving notes and like, you know, stuff and like, because sometimes we'll say stuff where it's like, ah, we can't, we can't leave that in, you know, we just can't. Like sometimes we'll say stuff that's slander, that's like, you know, it's like, you gotta check through or send it to an attorney. Like, there's just different things you gotta do now. And so, yeah, there's a lot of, I think there's a lot that goes into that. Did I hear you say that you don't have a computer?

• 33:44Speaker 02

  No. No, I mean, I certainly didn't. They got me one during COVID to do like Zooms and stuff. And I remember my manager just had me set up on this Zoom interview with the radio station and didn't, they were asking me to go to like speed.com or something to see what my bandwidth was and I didn't have internet at my house and they couldn't believe that.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  Damn.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. When I go home, it's a, it's a disconnect from it, you know? And I, except for I do like photo shoots or, or interviews or something down there, you know, it's, it's nice. I've started steering people that way. Cause every time I did a shoot, we'd like rent an old truck, we'd go out to some farm somewhere and stand in front of a bunch of cows. I'm like, man, I got all that in Alabama. Let's just do it down there. So.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do you have, do you run into a lot of like ex-girlfriends and stuff around home? What's that, what's that energy like? Cause I'm sure you had a girlfriend at some point.

• 34:30Speaker 02

  At some point I've had a girlfriend. Yeah. It's, I'm glad you brought that up.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  Cause you seem like a guy that's, yeah.

• 34:35Speaker 02

  That would have a girlfriend at some point in his life.

• 34:37Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're right about that.

• 34:42Speaker 01

  Thank you. And we just had to switch our coffee into some different cups.

• 34:46Speaker 02

  That was for the people watching?

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  Okay, okay.

• 34:49Speaker 01

  Dude, and yeah, you, so you just said something that's kind of interesting.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  Tony's cup.

• 34:53Speaker 01

  Oh, Tony, hell yeah. Hope he's, hope he's good.

• 34:56Speaker 02

  Vivian's cup.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Well, Tony used to drink heat to heat pass. He, HIV had.

• 35:01Speaker 02

  Damn.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  We washed it.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  R I P.

• 35:03Speaker 01

  Not a lot. He didn't have the big case. He had something light.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  But a lethal case, all the same.

• 35:08Speaker 01

  He caught it in the spring.

• 35:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  You know, so you don't get the, you catch that winter hiv, baby, it'll, it'll climb up your legs.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Starcides of toe.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, sorry. And then it comes looking for you, dude. That's.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  Trying to get that, horrible thing to talk about.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  It is. We're joking, obviously.

• 35:25Speaker 02

  No, no, yeah, I know. If people haven't figured that out by now. They thought we were being serious when you explained the coffee thing. And it's like, that seems like something a serious podcaster would do.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  Well, you have to remember that some people can't see it. Some people just listen. Half of our audience is just listeners.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  Oh, you're gonna want to watch this one.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  So, so yeah, half our audience is just listeners. So it's like, you gotta kind of explain stuff sometimes.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  It's like, we just do a cut and we swap chairs. I'm like, hey, we're right back. We had to swap chairs. You know what I mean?

• 35:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, you gotta.

• 35:51Speaker 02

  We had to move this plant.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  Different, different plant in here? Dude, one time I got so high in.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  Chicken pot?

• 35:58Speaker 01

  In California, yes. I was absorbed, I was doing, yeah, I was smoking weed. And uh, I called down to the, I got back to my room and it'd been a long day. I called down to the front and I said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone.

• 36:15Speaker 01

  And they're like, excuse me? And they're like, I said, somebody, there's a bunch of big plants in there. Said, somebody put a bunch of plants in my room while I was gone. And they came up and it was just the regular plants that had been, I'd been in this room for a week and I just had never really noticed them, I guess.

• 36:27Speaker 02

  Okay, that's, that's really fun for me because I had a thing when I first got a tour bus. I'd been touring for several years, but I was driving to shows or whatever. So there was such a big, like, that was a huge moment.

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a relief.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  And I took a buddy of mine out on the road with me to kind of help me, you know, whatever he was doing, assistant, whatever you want to call it. And I had this thing where, when I was drinking, I would take all the plants from the lobby of a hotel and put them in my room. And when I say we got a bus, I was just, I was partying back then, you know? I got after it. So as I say.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  And I don't know where that came from. I never wanted to steal anything and I would always like take it back, but I, my room would just look like a jungle. I would take any, any potted plant I could get, furniture from down there.

• 37:06Speaker 01

  They'd wheel them in. Now, how would you guys get them in there?

• 37:09Speaker 02

  We just, I'd just go to the downstairs and pick them up and kind of like, you know, you see on like cartoons where they walk behind the thing, like it was covering them, you know?

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  It was a real silly thing. I remember being in Mobile, we played Mardi Gras down there, which is where Mardi Gras originated, by the way.

• 37:21Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Thank you.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. And uh.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Somebody asked for, somebody probably called 911 because shit was getting weird down there.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  It does do that. Get here with a moon pie down there.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  Oh, moon pies started down there, didn't they? Where did the moon pie start?

• 37:35Speaker 02

  I don't know if the moon pie started. Here we go. Uh.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Where'd they start? Before you move on, we're gonna hold that thought.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Tennessee.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  Chattanooga.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  The windy city.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  The moon pie originated in 1917 at the Chattanooga Bakery in Tennessee. You know, Mountain Dew started in Tennessee.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  Did you know Appalachian coal miners wanted a snack in their lunch pails? And that was how it started.

• 37:57Speaker 01

  God, I'd love that. Wouldn't you love that? You've been in a mine all day.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  They requested a filling treat as big as the moon.

• 38:05Speaker 01

  Did they really?

• 38:06Speaker 02

  I just knew that. I didn't read that.

• 38:08Speaker 01

  They requested a filling treat as big as the moon? That's, that's.

• 38:13Speaker 02

  That's why it's called a moon pie.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  Who wrote this? This is.

• 38:16Speaker 02

  You know, there's made up stuff on the internet? Did you know that? I figured that out the last couple of years. People can just say whatever they want, put on the internet.

• 38:24Speaker 01

  We never figured that out. We'll just look it up and say it.

• 38:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  We don't really test anything out here.

• 38:28Speaker 02

  Well, you can just, you can just say whatever. You can like.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  Oh, nowadays you can say whatever.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  What I've found is all you have to say before you say whatever you want is get ready with me.

• 38:36Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  If you say, get ready with me, you can say whatever you want after that. Doesn't have to be true. I found that out. Did you see in that? There's videos. They'll say, get ready with me. And they just make up stuff.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Well, it's gotten bad too. It's like, get ready with me for my nephew's funeral or whatever. And I'm like, what? Why is that, dude? You know, it's like, or they're like, oh, get ready for me while I cheat on my spouse or whatever. And sometimes it's just like, this shit is not helpful to people.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  That's, hey, well, hold on a second. No, you're right. But there is a, there's a world where a get ready with me, like if you did it to go do something.

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  That'd be interesting. I mean, I'd be putting makeup on. You're just like, the actual get ready part's gonna be pretty slow.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  You're gonna be putting your clothes on.

• 39:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  Uh, but explaining where you're going.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, saying where I'm going, get ready with me, guys.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  Do they do like to go fishing?

• 39:23Speaker 01

  That'd be good.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  Get ready with me to go fishing. And then talk about what lures you're gonna take and stuff.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Talk about my rigs.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  Let's do a good old boy, get ready with me.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  That's not a.

• 39:31Speaker 02

  I like that.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  That's not a bad idea.

• 39:33Speaker 02

  It's not a great idea.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  It's not a great idea.

• 39:35Speaker 02

  It's not gonna, we're not gonna get any endorsement deals out of it.

• 39:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. Who would watch it though?

• 39:40Speaker 02

  Swim bait.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  You'll get a lot of women watching it, dude. I think. And I'll get their friends, you know?

• 39:46Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  And that's, I think that's okay with me, dude.

• 39:50Speaker 02

  You know, I just thought of it. You kind of remind me of Brink.

• 39:54Speaker 01

  Who is it?

• 39:55Speaker 02

  You know the movie Brink?

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Uh-uh. Bring it up.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  Maybe it's a combination of the good guy and the bad guy.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 40:03Speaker 02

  You see what I mean? Those two guys together, that's kind of.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  That's a man on the right?

• 40:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, and he's the bad guy. Man, look, immediate like hate when I look at him for me.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  Oh, cause you saw, you saw this movie?

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. But I think there was a little redemption at the end. I think he like helped somebody up after he pushed them down or something.

• 40:21Speaker 01

  Brink.

• 40:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I'm sorry.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  I can't believe you haven't seen that.

• 40:24Speaker 01

  I don't know this actor. And sorry, dude, I, I did, I, this guy does look also a little bit feminine in this section, in this image, because he's wearing a neck. I think the necklace has a woman.

• 40:35Speaker 02

  It's the lips. I mean, he's got.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, never mind. It's a great point. The guy definitely looks out of feminine in this.

• 40:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, you don't have to, you don't have to tiptoe around that.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't have to apologize, dude. Yeah.

• 40:44Speaker 02

  He's gonna be way more offended if he wears light up shoes than what you just said about him looking feminine. I promise you.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  That dude will do a get ready with me. I feel like, and this character would do a get ready with me. That's fair to say.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 40:55Speaker 01

  Okay, good. Okay, good. That's what I feel like. But yeah, dude, that's gotta be, I mean, like.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  I can't forget what we've been talking about.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  That's okay. This is what this whole.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Okay, that's what this is.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  I've been doing that for 10 years.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  It seems like we start somewhere.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  We'll get somewhere.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  But it's rubbing off on me. I did the Brink thing and I don't know what we were talking about before that.

• 41:12Speaker 01

  That's okay, dude. I'll tell you this. You've done a great job of just being yourself, managing things well, staying in control, confidence, and a lot of good humor. I didn't even expect it.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  I was working on posture. I was hoping that was gonna come. That's not really there.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  Dude, you want some good posture? I'll tell you where to go.

• 41:28Speaker 02

  You're a funny guy, man.

• 41:29Speaker 01

  I'm all right. Today I'm all, I'm okay today.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  It's, it, uh, it's contagious, man. Being around funny people.

• 41:36Speaker 01

  Do you feel like, like, totally honestly, do you feel like, like if I showed up at a music place, I would feel like, you know, I, I would sit there wishing I could do music. If you show up to a place where there is a comedy, do you feel like you have to be a funny guy?

• 41:49Speaker 02

  No.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  Uh, but I think everybody wants to be funny.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  Do you? That's a good, that's a good question.

• 41:56Speaker 02

  Right?

• 41:59Speaker 02

  I feel like funny is probably the, the quickest way for somebody to like you.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  That's fair.

• 42:04Speaker 02

  Because, you know, when you see somebody, especially somebody that's famous, you see somebody that's famous, you're thinking, ah, he's probably a jerk. You know, he's probably.

• 42:11Speaker 01

  That is people's first thought.

• 42:12Speaker 02

  If you're a little self-deprecating and you kind of cut up, they go, oh, man, he doesn't take himself too seriously. That's, I feel like those are the people I like.

• 42:18Speaker 01

  Do you feel like people think that about you ever? Like, probably especially if you're also a handsomer guy and a, and a popular guy, people probably gonna give you a harder time about it.

• 42:27Speaker 02

  You need to be real funny, is what you need to do.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  You know?

• 42:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, you gotta be real funny.

• 42:34Speaker 02

  Word of the wise.

• 42:35Speaker 01

  Did you, uh, yeah, what was the best, what was one of the best bar fights down there? You tell me that? I don't know if I asked you that.

• 42:40Speaker 02

  No, we went into a complete, completely different rant after that. Uh.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  It's always girls. Girl fights are always way more serious than guy fights, I feel like. You know, and I'm always surprised too at the song they get in a fight during.

• 42:56Speaker 01

  One of your songs?

• 42:57Speaker 02

  Well, there's been a couple of videos I've seen of people like getting in a fight during, I wish grandpa's never died. Or I got a song called Jesus Saves, you know, and like that's a, how like, how do you emotionally go to blows?

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Right, like Jesus Saves, but he better not save that bitch, you know?

• 43:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  And somebody just comes across and just, and the craziest part, people sometimes that are fighting, like already will be in like a cast or something, in an arm cast or something. That's the kind of shit I don't get.

• 43:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but they just got out of a fight to come.

• 43:29Speaker 01

  Like they just got out of a fight and now they're.

• 43:32Speaker 02

  Well, you know, I will venture to say this, I bet you the people that fight at bars or concerts probably do it often habitual. You know what I mean? Those are the ones, it's probably not a lot of people, it's a handful of them that are just.

• 43:46Speaker 01

  They keep doing it.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  I had buddies growing up that liked fighting.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  You know, they're like, that was, they go to the bar like they were gonna get in a fight.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  I feel like I got goofier, you know what I mean? I was always like, take my clothes off or like jumping a lake or something like that, you know, I don't.

• 44:00Speaker 01

  Right, instead of fighting guy.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, like get ready with me while I go fight or whatever, like that would be.

• 44:06Speaker 02

  Put an eye black on, I'm about to go kick somebody's ass. I'm about to go to a concert and fight somebody I've never met for no reason. Okay, now I'd watch that.

• 44:13Speaker 01

  During Jesus Saves, get ready with me while I beat somebody's ass.

• 44:16Speaker 02

  What would you wear if you were going to get in a fight? Think about that. You get dressed for a lot of things, knowing that there's a potentially, maybe you meet a girl.

• 44:25Speaker 01

  Good question.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  So you, so you, you put on something maybe a girl would like.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  I know what I would.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  Or maybe you're gonna be, it's gonna be hot.

• 44:29Speaker 01

  Well, let me tell you.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Be comfortable. What would you do if you were gonna fight?

• 44:32Speaker 01

  It's a great question, thank you.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Boots would look intimidating, but they wouldn't be as good for a fight as tennis shoes would.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  I agree.

• 44:38Speaker 02

  Roller shoes would not be good. Light up shoes might distract.

• 44:41Speaker 01

  But roller shoes might be good, say if you're on a hill, hit the guy and then you just activate him and you roll right downhill and you're home, you're back at the house. You know, if you had a strategy like that.

• 44:50Speaker 02

  That would be good if you were gonna run from a fight, if you were gonna try to escape a fight. Like you think somebody's gonna kick your ass at this place you're going, wear roller shoes.

• 44:56Speaker 01

  Yes, I gotta go. Yeah, and like you ain't leaving and you're like, watch this, you just lift, you just lift the front of your feet up.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying. And but like, no, no other part of your body has to move and you just look back and your hair is just flowing and you just, that's cool. Honestly, I changed my opinion about this.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  That would be nice. But yeah, dude, there's some chick out there, she's in an arm cast or whatever, and she has a dog, she says she does, but it's been taken or whatever, it's gotten by CPS. And, uh, and.

• 45:22Speaker 02

  Is it Child Protective Services?

• 45:24Speaker 01

  It is.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  They take dogs?

• 45:25Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 45:25Speaker 02

  They take dogs?

• 45:26Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, they will. I mean, if you're not being a good.

• 45:29Speaker 02

  But she, so she, she says she has a dog, but it's gone.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:32Speaker 02

  And she got a cast.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  Or I feel like I'm there now.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  And she's like, get ready with me while I go over there, over to.

• 45:38Speaker 02

  I'm getting my dog back.

• 45:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, over to Snooker's Tavern or whatever, and I'm beating somebody's ass after dinner tonight.

• 45:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  And then she probably puts on nice earrings. Yeah, I guess it is.

• 45:48Speaker 02

  You can take them out, cause that's intimidation right there.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  That's a move, dude.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  Think about it.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Police, uh.

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Honestly, I wish.

• 45:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:56Speaker 02

  I wish I had them, just for a.

• 45:58Speaker 01

  Were you ever wearing?

• 45:59Speaker 02

  Think about this.

• 46:00Speaker 01

  Did you ever have your ears pierced?

• 46:01Speaker 02

  Me and you in the bar and we just disgruntled, you know what I mean? We're just disagreement. I don't know what it is, I can't even imagine. Cause we're good old boys, but let's just say we, we're not about it. Same girl or something.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  And then we're like about to go down, like, are we doing this? And you're like, hell yeah, and I just.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  And we're gonna fight each other?

• 46:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, wouldn't they do something for you?

• 46:22Speaker 01

  You're gonna get her.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  No, no, I.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  And no judgment or anything, but you're gonna get her. Like, I'm not, I'm, I would rather be like, you're gonna get her.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Okay, but you, this is just a pretend thing.

• 46:31Speaker 01

  Okay, it's just a pretending, sorry.

• 46:33Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 46:33Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 46:34Speaker 02

  You're mad at me.

• 46:35Speaker 01

  Okay, and you take your, and then you take your earrings out? I'm like, oh shit, he means it.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  About to go down.

• 46:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, he don't never take his earrings out, you know, he didn't even take them out when we went on the water slide after, you know, senior year or whatever.

• 46:45Speaker 02

  See, now it makes it hard for us to be at a fight, because we were hanging out senior year on a water slide.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  That's a good point. But you didn't take earrings out then, dude, if you're taking them out now, you meet, you're here to beat some ass.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  Huh. Yeah, dude, I think if I got in a fight, I thought about this now, I would wear a nice suit. Cause you, the story afterward would be like, man, you see that dude in that suit, beat that guy's ass.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  He beat his ass in a suit.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 47:08Speaker 01

  And then, and then he went to work probably.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  And then he went to work.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  See, I was picturing it like a wedding suit, like a tuxedo, but you're talking about like a suit, like you work on Wall Street.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  I'm talking business suit.

• 47:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:19Speaker 01

  Or just work on any street, like some people, you know, people used to get dressed up a lot more than they do now. Think about that. Think about the fact that on a daily basis.

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Every day.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  People would get, like, people took a, like, uh, there was a lot more, I think, care and concern about how they looked. Bring up some images of people, how they dressed, say, seventy years ago.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  I didn't grow up around that.

• 47:45Speaker 01

  Well, not for us, I'm talking about two, maybe two generations earlier.

• 47:48Speaker 02

  City or something, yeah, I mean.

• 47:49Speaker 01

  No, I think.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  I feel like, I feel like a person that dressed nice, who had a nice job when I was growing up, was like the bank president, and he just wore a polo shirt with khakis.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:56Speaker 02

  You know, like, my mom wouldn't let me wear that at church, and like, it was, that was fancy then, you know?

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. But look at people dressed, I think, snazzy. Do you think that's true? Maybe I'm just kind of romanticizing it.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  Well, I will go along with like the, the whole, uh, you know, like sweat suits to the bar.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  It's gotten, that's what I'm saying, it's gotten pretty casual.

• 48:16Speaker 02

  It has.

• 48:16Speaker 01

  Like, there's like, dude, there's ma, there's even men's shoes at ALO, at ALO or whatever it's called, ALO. And it's crazy now, we're so dumb, it's ALO and I don't even know how to say it.

• 48:27Speaker 02

  What is it?

• 48:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know, I don't.

• 48:31Speaker 01

  I agree, dude, what is it? But.

• 48:34Speaker 02

  ALO.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  But yeah, was there, I'm just trying to think, was there a bar fight that stood out to you over there?

• 48:40Speaker 02

  Uh.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Like, is there one that stood out? Cause that much time at Floor Mammon, dude, that's a lot. Cause Floor Mammon was always a place you could get.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  I never saw a lot of fights down there, yeah.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  You could get your stomach pumped and you could get a lot of splinters. It used to be a place you get a lot of splinters at.

• 48:54Speaker 02

  Could, yeah.

• 48:55Speaker 01

  Like, everybody in that bitch had a splinter, dude. If people were doing the stanky leg, forty people would get a damn splinter in there.

• 49:00Speaker 02

  There's a vibe about that place that's very, you know, beach bars too, we got a little more like Jimmy Buffett laid back, let's all get along, have a good time. Yeah, so it's.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  God, that's good stuff.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  It really is. I, I do remember, I was, I was in Louisiana, I played at the, uh, Texas Club.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Down here in Baton Rouge?

• 49:19Speaker 02

  Baton Rouge, yeah, and, and I remember I was about to sign a record deal, I had somebody from a label down there, and I was horribly sick, like, threw up before the show, like, just trying to get through it, it was one of the like worst, right before show sickness I've had. And somebody got in a fight during the last song. And I was like, hey, like, you know, knocking it out, and I couldn't get their attention, they were still like going at it, so I, they were close to the front, I took my guitar off and I poked the guy in the back, and I was like, hey, let me play one more song, and then we'll all go out back and just beat the shit out of each other, and everybody just cheered, the two dudes were like high fiving, and then we went through and got the song done.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  Ah, that's great. Yeah, that's what people, cause some people just wanna plan, you know, some people just don't know how to, they're like, well, I guess we'll fight now, and it's like, yeah, you come along with a little bit of strategy for people, they'll, some people will follow suit. When a leader shows up, people will follow, that's what's kind of wild sometimes, you know? Even in an instance like that, I think.

• 50:10Speaker 02

  Well, it's a little bit of like, you go at somebody in a, a high situation with a little calmness too. Okay, listen, you're on a fight.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 50:18Speaker 02

  But we can do it, it's fine.

• 50:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, let me give you.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  So let me, let me, I got this one more song.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  Let me play this song, and then back to the fight, and they're like, oh, that's, that's reasonable.

• 50:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:27Speaker 02

  Just be reasonable.

• 50:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, be reasonable, dude. Um, what was I looking at? Oh, I saw you like, you, you, you do a good bit of hunting there, do you hu, do you hunt out on your property out there in Alabama?

• 50:37Speaker 02

  I do a lot of turkey hunting out there. I, I usually go up north deer hunting.

• 50:41Speaker 01

  What do you think about turkeys?

• 50:44Speaker 02

  I think about them a lot.

• 50:45Speaker 01

  You think they're one of the best birds or not? We had Steve Rinella on here.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  No, I mean, the best bird to just in general?

• 50:50Speaker 01

  Steve Rinella gave them top bird, he said, he's a.

• 50:53Speaker 02

  For what? Like, what's the, what stipulations are you going by? They don't fly that good.

• 50:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. I, look, I agree with you. What I'm saying is, he said they were the best bird, and I said, well, look, Steve, I just, I, you know, I begrudgingly kind of like I supported him, cause he was going through it when he said it.

• 51:07Speaker 02

  For, for, uh, just because we're so close to.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  And there he is with one right there. Oh, he loves them so much, that one looks dead.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  He's gotta be talking about hunting birds. Like, I would think like an eagle's an easy win for best bird.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  That's, Trevin, what do you think he said?

• 51:22Speaker 03

  He said that bald eagles, despite being America's bird, they're scavengers, whereas turkeys are highly intelligent, they, their heads change color based on their mood.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  They do that?

• 51:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, so he was all about it.

• 51:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. So, but then he's also deceiving them, so that's kind of an interesting concept, but he loves.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  Turkey's the most challenging bird to hunt.

• 51:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  By far, yeah. I, I hunted turkeys for two, three years before I even got close to killing one.

• 51:48Speaker 01

  Really?

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, my dad didn't hunt, I kind of just taught myself how, I was interested in it, and, yeah, like, they're, they're tough, especially down on those, those eastern birds down there, they're tough, man.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  We went and hunted some Osceolas down in, uh.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  Florida?

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:03Speaker 01

  And it was interesting, dude, the group.

• 52:05Speaker 02

  It's a little different down there, so it's flat. You're hunting in the hills and mountains, you know, you got a bird that's calling, you're calling to him, you think he's right there, but he's two ridges over, he's not, you know what I mean? You gotta know how the land lays, and you think he's gonna pop right over top of the hill, and he walks around the side and spots you before you see him, it's tough.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think maybe the place you went was a little bit easy, it might have been like, sort of like a beginners or like summer league or whatever.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  That was you and, uh, Caleb?

• 52:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  You're Michael Waddell.

• 52:27Speaker 01

  Well, Michael Waddell.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  Y'all were goofing off, I saw that.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  They wouldn't even let me have a gun, so I thought that wasn't cool.

• 52:32Speaker 02

  I get that, yeah.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  But then the second part was, dude, uh, they.

• 52:36Speaker 02

  What did you wear? You put camouflage on. You're like you're going to the city pool.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  I did well. First of all, they did not even send a fan flyer or anything about what we were supposed to wear. They gave no directions.

• 52:46Speaker 02

  But they had some stuff for you.

• 52:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, they had some stuff down there and it was good, dude. We like the food was great. We had a great time, but I agree it was flat. So that's an easy place to shoot them. And dude, so we were out there and we maybe saw some or maybe didn't see some. I don't remember what happened, but afterwards we're leaving and there's like a couple, like the game's over or whatever. It's like around 11 a.m. There's a couple of turkeys just hanging out in the ditch, right? And like, you know, it's over, like we were over there hunting them and we happened to just see some over here.

• 53:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:14Speaker 01

  It's like, you know, like they're in the locker room. The game's over. One of them has a towel around his neck. You know, one of them's texting his texting his wife or whatever.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  He's not worried about it.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Cause one of them's taking his feet off, you know what I'm saying? One of them's taking his wings off. He's just a fucking sparrow with a fucking morning job, you know?

• 53:28Speaker 02

  But we got them.

• 53:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. And fucking they're like, let's shoot them. I'm like, dude, the fuck, that's not fair, you know?

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Like, I just want to be a fair challenge. That's the thing sometimes with hunting. I do like, I had a great time. I would like to go duck hunting is something I would like to do.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  I know a guy.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  But, uh, but that is a, that's a fair, like, I just like a little bit more of a fair challenge, you know?

• 53:50Speaker 02

  Well, you go out in the woods, like in my farm with a call. First of all, you gotta figure out how to call.

• 53:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 53:56Speaker 02

  You camouflage and you go out there and like try to kill a bird on your own. It's, it's tough, you know?

• 54:03Speaker 01

  Like with no weapon?

• 54:04Speaker 02

  No, you could take a weapon. I just mean like you call in one is not the easiest thing to do. And then you almost have to get busted by one to know how well they can see, you know?

• 54:13Speaker 01

  Oh, that's pretty quick. Like we'll have one sneak up on you.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. And turkeys, cause they're not going to come in the way you want them to. You go and you pick your spot, but he's going to try to come in where he can see you from as far away as he can. You know, wherever that hen is that he thinks he's going to see. Yeah, they kicked my butt for so many years.

• 54:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. I saw that you call them. You do a call? Can you do a regular, can you do it right now?

• 54:34Speaker 02

  No, I mean, I, I use like a diaphragm or I got a slate call or.

• 54:38Speaker 01

  What's a slate call?

• 54:41Speaker 02

  You know?

• 54:43Speaker 01

  No, that's something, that one's fucking, yeah.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  That wasn't, that wasn't.

• 54:47Speaker 01

  That's from Key West, I think, but let me try it one more time.

• 54:53Speaker 02

  Oh, that's, yeah, that's pretty good.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  It's pretty simple because the goal is you're trying to.

• 54:57Speaker 02

  Do it one more time.

• 55:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's better.

• 55:05Speaker 02

  That's it. See how you use your chest?

• 55:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:08Speaker 02

  That was good. Yeah. Save your chest. That was good.

• 55:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  That's cool.

• 55:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's nice, man, dude. And when people get out there with those calls, I love guessing what birds, different birds. There's so many birds out there. It is kind of interesting how, uh, how some birds you can hunt them, but so many birds you can't hunt them.

• 55:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, do you think that is a, these taste good kind of thing? Because I've never heard anybody that'd be like a cardinal's delicious. You know what I mean? Like.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  Those birds don't have a lot on them. Turkey's got a lot of meat on them.

• 55:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:43Speaker 02

  Uh, dove and pheasant are obviously really good birds. Eat duck or good to eat geese.

• 55:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:48Speaker 02

  You think that's what, do you think that traditionally Indians, whatever it was back in the day, like started hunting birds that they ate? And then they ate some robins and then they're like, that's not good. And then we just adapted to that and we're like, these are the ones we're going to hunt.

• 56:00Speaker 01

  I bet you're probably right. I bet there was always also some pervert always eating a blue jay or whatever off on the side. And like, look at this little weirdo.

• 56:06Speaker 02

  I mean, cause I don't think people eat like skunks either, you know? Maybe in Louisiana, but I mean.

• 56:11Speaker 01

  No, I mean, raccoons, people eat a lot. My brother would kill raccoons.

• 56:14Speaker 02

  Raccoons, people eat squirrels.

• 56:15Speaker 01

  Up at the church and see if people had any in their area and he'd go get them or whatever. But yeah, I guess that is a good point. You kind of eat whatever's the most plentiful because you also had to feed a lot of people.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:27Speaker 01

  It's like, you're like, you know, if you're just out there hunting for one all day, it's kind of like.

• 56:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, turkeys are from back like the settler days.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:33Speaker 02

  You know, like that was, that's what, it was like the guy and turkeys that came over on the boat.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. And if you saw a fat turkey, people are like, hey, bring some lunch. And you bring, one dude brings a turkey and one dude brings a little nightingale or whatever. It's like the dude eating the nightingale.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  If they brought like a nightingale stew.

• 56:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:52Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 56:53Speaker 01

  Yeah. You'd be like, that's a fucking weirdo. I think making that shit all night.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Blue jay casserole. That ain't, that didn't even sound good.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  Some dude out there.

• 57:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:03Speaker 01

  What a day, making whooping crane omelets or something. What about some swan nuggets? Now them bitches sound good. You ever eaten swan?

• 57:11Speaker 02

  You know, they also don't hunt a lot of real pretty birds either though, you know? I haven't eaten swan, no.

• 57:16Speaker 01

  I'd have a little.

• 57:17Speaker 02

  You would have a little?

• 57:18Speaker 01

  Yeah. If you went to Thanksgiving, they had swan. I bet they, I bet the, I bet Trump's eating it.

• 57:26Speaker 02

  It would look like on a silver platter, like with the.

• 57:28Speaker 01

  Yes, if they kept the.

• 57:30Speaker 02

  The arch. You gotta make sure you keep the.

• 57:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:34Speaker 01

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• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  Let me see, Riley's doing calls here.

• 1:00:35Speaker 02

  What do you got, an earpiece in or something? How'd you know that?

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  And we showed it a second ago.

• 1:00:39Speaker 02

  Oh, that's how I'll start the show.

• 1:00:41Speaker 01

  Oh, it is?

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  With duck call.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  Let's go, dude.

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  I've, I've never seen anybody catch that. Catch the duck call. It's the, and I do it at every show.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:03Speaker 02

  People are there like signs, throw me the duck call. They never catch it.

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  Well, I don't want to judge these people, but a lot of them could be women. That's, and that is judging them. I'm going to take that out.

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  What you said was exactly what you said you weren't going to say. It was what you said you weren't going to do. You haven't seen the league of their own?

• 1:01:20Speaker 01

  What the heck? Yeah, I have, dude.

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  Maybe a duck call is hard to catch. Maybe the shape of it is not something they're used to. Maybe they're great catchers.

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  And there's, you're kind of throwing, it looked like you weren't throwing it easily towards them. You know? I don't know. That's a good question, man. What, uh, you're on your biggest tour right now. Is that true?

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Yeah. Every year it's a little bigger.

• 1:01:42Speaker 01

  Has it been?

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's been great.

• 1:01:44Speaker 01

  What's the fear like about that? We were talking about this the other night, dude. You and I kind of had our first conversation the other night about a couple of weeks ago.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:50Speaker 01

  We were talking a little bit about just like when, like as your career goes along, the pressure, it feels like, like, you know, like what is the rest of your career going to be like? And how do you try to shape that if you can?

• 1:02:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:03Speaker 01

  And how do you try to shape yourself so that you're okay with however things go?

• 1:02:07Speaker 02

  There's a certain amount of, uh, I've already accomplished way more than I ever thought I would. So there's a, there's a peace of mind in that. And you know, there's also a little bit of, I'm guaranteed a certain career at this point, you know? Even if I never have another hit, I can go tour and, you know, I can make a living, support my family, whatever I need to do. So there, there's, there's peace in knowing that. But I think the competitive part of me, and like we talked about the other day is like, when I have a hit or win an award or whatever it is, I don't feel like, ah, I can relax now, you know, I've accomplished that. It's really more like, okay, now I gotta go do the next thing. I gotta take, in my, I think I always say that it's, I want to try to get as much out of the opportunities I've got as I can. Cause it, I mean, what you're doing and what I'm doing is very rare.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  You know, to be, to be able to have the opportunities you've got and to be able to go and, and do some acting and stand up comedy and have a podcast. It's this popular and this successful. So I'm, uh, I feel pressure in that regard of just like, I want to go and be as successful as I can. But it's not necessarily a nervous thing, certainly not with the shows getting bigger. That's, that side of it is not a pressure thing. Cause I mean, the fans make it enjoyable. When you go to a show and you got a sold out arena for your stand, they're excited you're there. It's easy, you know?

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, yeah, I guess with stand up, it feels like it's a, I can't tell. Do you lose, does the, does the venue lose intimacy with, uh, music? Because it is, as it gets bigger with stand up, but it feels sometimes like, man, I wish I could connect with other people. It's just the way it is. But I don't know if, if music is, if it's the same like that.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  I did a stadium tour with Luke Combs and.

• 1:03:42Speaker 02

  That's, that's too big. Like, I feel like there's no way the person in the far back top row is getting their money's worth at a concert, you know? And you also lose some sound too, and you have to have two rows of speakers, one halfway through.

• 1:03:55Speaker 01

  That's wild.

• 1:03:55Speaker 02

  There's so much reverb and bounce back. And then you think about how much of a pain it is to go to that show. The traffic to get in for a fan and then, you know, to be able to find a place to park and all that. I just think-

• 1:04:06Speaker 01

  And then they charge in the park too, a lot of the time.

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  And then you got, you know, the fact that it's also an open air stadium, you got weather issues and your openers are starting in the daytime. So they don't get the, you know, the full effect of the lights and everything. And so arenas has always felt like a great place for me. And I, and you still have an intimate show. You still feel close to everybody. You feel like everybody got their money's worth. But it's still, you know, twenty, twenty-five thousand people.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, I guess like, yeah, that intimacy, yeah, the intimacy get, gets lost, I think, at certain levels, kind of. And so you try your best, you try to figure it out, you know?

• 1:04:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess it's kind of interesting as your career goes on, you're like, man, this has been interesting. It's been fun to have this experience. Yeah, and you want to keep it going. You want to like try your best and you also want to challenge yourself too. Cause you got to evolve too. Like, I think your, does it feel like your music kind of has to evolve as you do with your life? Like, like, cause um, one time I sat down with, uh, there was this famous comedy manager and I sat with him and he goes, you know, at a certain point, if you stay the same, your audience will kind of, they age, they'll grow older.

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  So you have to like also like, cause it's almost a trap. Like, I want to stay this. I want to stay this song, you know? Like, because if like, say you get a first hit or something like that, you're like, well, I can't ever be different than this person, you know? The person that sings that song because I may lose people. You know what I'm saying? Does it make any sense to you?

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think that the, what your guy said is a little bit not true in the sense of, you know, that may have been true ten, fifteen years ago before social media was as relevant as it is. But now, if you do something well, like your stand-up videos or your podcast or whatever, it lives forever. So the next generation, you know, whereas when you had a song on the radio ten years ago, it lived when it was on the radio and then it went off and that was it. It was over. It didn't live anywhere else. Now, everything you do lives on the internet forever. So if you're doing something well, I would really, especially like up and coming artists, I would advise against trying to do anything too different. For me, what I always do is I try to make sure I've got songs on my record, every record that are writing from the same place I started writing from, that are very me.

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  And then I try to take a few songs and write that are a little stylistically different and just kind of ease outside of my comfort zone a little bit, but-

• 1:06:24Speaker 01

  But so you would, but so it doesn't mean like, so you're saying that you can change because the thing you did will still stay out there?

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 1:06:31Speaker 01

  So it's kind of a safe space to be able to kind of, if you're doing something different, like-

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, I just think you don't turn and run from something that was successful, you know? And like with country music, you know-

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  Well, it's scary to do that for sure.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  It is, yeah, and, and-

• 1:06:44Speaker 01

  But then I guess I'm thinking like, do, do like, I guess I'm wondering sometimes it's like, yeah, do you try to stay that? Like, do you try to make your life fit this, this certain time? You know what I'm saying, a little bit?

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  I'll give you an example, and I know you've done some acting, is, you know, I imagine in your role, you went into something that wasn't too far of a stretch from what you do and who you are. So I did Marshals and, and like, I, my first-

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  With Luke Grimes?

• 1:07:06Speaker 02

  It was Luke. It was great. And, and uh, uh, I didn't want to take a role that was crazily different. You know, I wanted something that I could ease into and introduce myself into that world and then kind of go on. That's how I am with music is I might try a song that stylistically is a little different than what I normally do, but it's not going to be, I'm not going straight pop. You know, I'm not going to do something totally different. I think melody wise, I'll try some things out and see if it works, but keeping that familiarity in what you've done well for so long, I think is extremely important now. Cause I think the best thing you can be is different. Not necessarily from your, something you've done before, but from everybody else. You know? I mean, well, you, your stand-up and your humor on this podcast, I don't know anybody else, I mean,

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  in a weird way, Norm MacDonald, like the, the, the dry sarcasm of Norm, I always thought he did something that was so unique. And I don't know who I would compare you to, you know?

• 1:07:58Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think you always kind of like, yeah, I don't know. I guess you want to be like, you want to try and like honor yourself as much as you can. I think with humor, it's hard to pretend to be somebody else. And I think with music, if somebody, if you pretended too much and some of it didn't come from a real authentic place for you, then it would kind of start to, you'd be able to see that after a while.

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  I think fans can tell. I think that-

• 1:08:22Speaker 01

  Well, I don't think you'd have a ton. I don't, I think the longevity wouldn't be able to be there because

• 1:08:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  you're playing, if you, especially if you're trying to play somebody else's uh-

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  Authenticity is really, it's, it's so obvious now, again, cause social media. I mean, ten years ago, you'd have a song on the radio and people not necessarily know what you look like.

• 1:08:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:40Speaker 02

  Now they know everything about you. My dog's got a hundred and fifty thousand followers on Instagram.

• 1:08:44Speaker 01

  Does he really?

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, people know everything about you. So if you're not authentically what you act like you are, people are going to figure it out.

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  You think your dog knows he has that many?

• 1:08:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:08:54Speaker 02

  Oh man, that dude, uh, he, when the camera's on him, he's a different person.

• 1:09:01Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:02Speaker 01

  And where's he from?

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Uh, I mean, he lives in Jacksonville, Alabama. He lives on my farm. He's been playing cards.

• 1:09:08Speaker 01

  What the fuck, dude?

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, folded.

• 1:09:11Speaker 01

  Oh dang, bro. He lives like that, dude.

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  That's Carl, man.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  Oh, he's handsome. And that's a, a Stogie? What's that dog called?

• 1:09:20Speaker 02

  Uh, Stogie's a cigar. He is a corgi and a blue healer.

• 1:09:24Speaker 01

  Corgi. Oh, blue healer, huh? Damn, he's Native American?

• 1:09:29Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't know about that.

• 1:09:31Speaker 01

  Look it up. Blue healer. Are blue healers Native American? No.

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  I, you know what? That's the most direct answer to anything I've ever seen asked on the internet. No, blue healers are not Native Americans. Native Americans.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Man, this shit might be fake.

• 1:09:47Speaker 02

  I don't know if you've ever been like that completely wrong. That was crazy. Where'd you get that from? I don't want to know.

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  Blue healers are Native American?

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  I wouldn't be surprised. Look up what dogs are Native American.

• 1:10:00Speaker 01

  Some of them have to be, huh? How'd we get them?

• 1:10:04Speaker 01

  Dogs native to North America fall, nah.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  Look up, uh, what type of people think dogs are Native American.

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  Oh, come on, bro. You're giving me a hard time.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  No, no, seriously, I was curious about that. Well, will you look up, uh, what would possess a person to think a dog was Native American? Can we look that up?

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  Hey, man, tell me about the acting. Did you enjoy it?

• 1:10:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll tell you about it in a second. I want to finish this conversation right-

• 1:10:29Speaker 02

  I think this conversation is done. You said that dog was Native American and no dogs are Native American.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  How about this? Well, look, look up this. How about this? What, what dogs were owned popularly by Native Americans?

• 1:10:43Speaker 02

  Just, but it's changed so much since what you-

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  I don't think it has. I'm saying, okay, here we go.

• 1:10:49Speaker 02

  Plains Indian dog.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  Okay, uh-

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  Salish wool dog.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  Well, popular, historical and-

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  Chihuahua.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  Them little bitches were going back then? Oh.

• 1:11:00Speaker 02

  Remember the Taco Bell dog?

• 1:11:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, I remember it, dude. But this, I'm talking about real Native-

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  That's the first famous dog I remember.

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  You think?

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  Except for the one that has a cigar that asks questions at the-

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  Oh, uh, oh, the-

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  You know what I'm talking about? He's not a real dog, so that I guess that doesn't count at all.

• 1:11:13Speaker 01

  That's a puppet.

• 1:11:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  So, hey, look up-

• 1:11:15Speaker 02

  Ask what, ask what puppets are Native American?

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  Can you look up what types of people think puppets are real dogs?

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Please.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  That's funny. I like that. That's the funniest. I'm glad we got one funny thing today.

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  Finally.

• 1:11:27Speaker 02

  You piggybacked off my funny stuff, but you really, you hammered it down.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  Finally, well, finally. Well, we'll play rally ball. I didn't know we were playing-

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  I forgot it was a puppet for a second. Okay, I will say that.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  You didn't see the guy's arm?

• 1:11:38Speaker 02

  You see a guy's hand in a sock, acting like a dog long enough, eventually it becomes a dog to you.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  Well, look, if I see a guy's hand in an animal, I fricking, I know what's going on. It don't seem right, but, you know, that was probably first-

• 1:11:49Speaker 02

  We've all been to the, the Neshoba County Fair.

• 1:11:52Speaker 01

  Shout out Hardy.

• 1:11:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:54Speaker 01

  But we all know-

• 1:11:55Speaker 02

  That's why they run with those chairs at the front. You know, they want to see the show.

• 1:11:58Speaker 01

  That's probably what the first nine-one-one call was all about, right there. There's a man with uh, his hand up an animal over here. Um, bring it back those Native American dogs. I do want to know what they were. And I want to see a little JPG of them, or a drawing probably.

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  If you can see that, please. I, I'm serious. I want to, just want to know which dogs they were.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm, I'm going to get you a hand painted, oil-based painting of a dog with just Native American things on it. You know what I mean? Like a bow and arrow with feathers and everything.

• 1:12:29Speaker 01

  That's actually not a bad idea.

• 1:12:30Speaker 02

  And a coffee maker.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  Plains Indian dogs, American Indian dogs found across the Great Plains. These dogs were essential beasts of burden. They were used to pull-

• 1:12:39Speaker 02

  Beasts of burden.

• 1:12:39Speaker 01

  V-shaped wooden sleds called travois, loaded with meat, household goods and children before horses were introduced. Wow. So they used to use dogs to do like field plowing.

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  The Salish wool dogs, kept by the Coast Salish tribes in Washington State and British Columbia. These small, white fluffy dogs were sheared like sheep. Their thick wool was spun into blankets and textiles. Damn.

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  Read the next one.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  The-

• 1:13:10Speaker 02

  The xylophone.

• 1:13:11Speaker 01

  This is, uh, the zola, zit.

• 1:13:17Speaker 02

  Welcome back to Puppy Talk. I'm Riley Green with my guest, Theo Vaughn.

• 1:13:21Speaker 01

  And I'm here also today, we're so happy. We're going to look at the bone structure of a zwallisitiliya. And they are a Native American dog popularized by the Aztecs and Mayans. These dogs were kept as pets, guards and physical heaters. Dude, imagine that.

• 1:13:38Speaker 02

  I can't even imagine it.

• 1:13:39Speaker 01

  What do you mean? You get the dog tonight.

• 1:13:41Speaker 02

  That's hairless. Mexican hairless dog is a wild looking dog.

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Oh, that shit ain't nothing. Look at that little bad boy. Look at the one down there. This one's-

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  I see, I saw him. I saw the one you're looking at, yeah.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, look at that little boss, that little-

• 1:13:53Speaker 02

  If you put him on that commercial with Willie Nelson playing, uh, You Were Always On My Mind?

• 1:13:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  I would give the money, whatever it is.

• 1:14:00Speaker 01

  You're always, he looks like he's got Farm AIDS, dude. That thing has had a tough run right there.

• 1:14:08Speaker 01

  And that was a pretty good joke.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  That was really good. It made me close one eye for a while, like.

• 1:14:13Speaker 01

  I'm just joking. Shout out Willie Nelson and Farm Aid. Dude, I just saw Billy Strings this weekend, actually. I went there where him, Stephen Wilson Jr., Sheryl Crow, Willie Nelson, Lucas Nelson. They had a show in, outside of Austin.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Lucas is great. Stephen Wilson's so talented.

• 1:14:31Speaker 01

  So talented, man.

• 1:14:33Speaker 02

  It's awesome. That's a cool, it'd be a cool thing to see.

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  Oh, it was just great to be over there, man. Um, how was the acting? Let me think. It was, there was just like a lot going on. It took like, I wish I'd had more time to like work on the character. And I just had, we were wearing a lot of hats.

• 1:14:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:54Speaker 01

  So when you're doing a lot of stuff, it's a lot.

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:14:56Speaker 01

  And you think it's not gonna be, you know?

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  We were, I was on tour and we were filming in Park City, Utah for Marshall. So I was flying every week to Utah, playing three or four days or filming and then go play shows and fly back. And I feel like I didn't know enough about the character. Like I was getting the script for like that day. And I didn't know any of the backstory. So when I went and watched it, there were so many things I would have done differently. If I'd known this about the character or that. And I, I would have really enjoyed it if I could have just lived in that world and filmed for a month, you know?

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:15:24Speaker 02

  Also, do, it's really bothering me a lot just to think about if you knew that that picture of that dog was on there. And you went on a dog, Native American dog rant, just so you could say Farm Aid's. Cause if that's the case, one, that'd be awesome. And two, how much preparation would that take? You know what I mean? Like that would be coming into an interview. Don't worry about learning anything about the guy that's here, like me. You don't have to know any of my songs or anything, but if I can come up with a way to say Farm Aid's with the dog, that'd be awesome.

• 1:15:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I wouldn't, that's insane.

• 1:15:53Speaker 02

  I don't know if I'd like the version of you better that did that or the one that just came up with it. I don't know.

• 1:15:57Speaker 01

  They didn't. That's a good question, actually.

• 1:15:58Speaker 02

  Either way, I like you.

• 1:15:59Speaker 01

  That's a lot of thought. Well, thank you. I've been sitting here hoping you would. Uh.

• 1:16:03Speaker 02

  I just decided just now. The coffee thing threw me off.

• 1:16:06Speaker 01

  I knew the jury was out.

• 1:16:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:16:08Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, what do you think like, so one thing you said a little while ago, uh, you said that like, like, like achievements, right? Like they'll keep you going, but do you feel a lot of achievement? Like if you achieve something, do you really feel it? Or does it feel like, um, like you don't strike me as the kind of guy that feels a lot of like, like that sit there and relishes some. Like if you, like something does happen to you, like you get an award, you get this certain thing. It's just like part of the thing.

• 1:16:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, I think you get a little numb to it, especially when you're so busy, you know, you get a little, you don't really, I guess for lack of a better term, sit back and appreciate it. I try to make myself live in the moment a little more, but for me, I look at a lot of the things that happen as like checks, you know? Not that I had the goals of accomplishing those things, but I'm like, man, when I, you know, ACM awards, whatever it was, we went a couple of awards, CMAs, whatever it is. I'm more looking at like, okay, I got a performance.

• 1:17:04Speaker 02

  That's gotta go well. I need to, you know, figure out the song and make sure it goes well. When it does, and I get the award and I got a little speech or something. I make sure that goes well. And then I'm like, okay, all went well. And it's like a little bit of relief, but not necessarily like a, I accomplished this. And also that stuff's a little bit political, you know what I mean? The best songs don't always win. And for me, I think I appreciate a lot more a sold out show. But when fans are, are there and they're like singing a song that I wrote and it like, I can tell it means something to them. There's emotion in it. Like that means more to me than an award, you know?

• 1:17:37Speaker 01

  Do you, but yeah, I guess I'm just wondering, like, do you feel like you, like you're good at like, uh, feeling pride for yourself, like that sort of thing, you know? Cause that's something, sometimes I've struggled with that. It's like, I don't think too much about it, but it's like, man, sometimes that is, uh, like if somebody's like, man, do you feel proud of yourself? I don't feel that a lot of times. Does that make any sense to you?

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  Uh, I think that, I mean, it does make sense. I think that you gotta find things in your life that you do feel proud of yourself about. Like for me, it's not musical achievements. For me, I feel proud about my farm. I feel proud that I, you know, could put my parents in a nice house, bought my dad a truck, whatever. Those like, I feel more for that than anything I've ever bought myself, you know? And like my niece and nephew sending me pictures, my sister of them catching fish in my lake. Like I'm proud of like that. And that, those are things that I know will last forever. And, you know, I mean, there's a little bit of songwriting pride, I think. When I saw, when I write a song that, you know, I wrote by myself and it, I think it was good. It made me feel something.

• 1:18:35Speaker 02

  And when people relate to it, like I feel proud about that. Uh, but that's a little short-lived, you know? Like a joke that really lands. I think that you gotta find things in life that you constantly wanna be attached to, you know? For me, it's stuff like my farm and, you know, having a little place at the beach or something, my folks going down there. I, when people send me pictures of my beach house saying, man, this was nice. We had a great time. That's what I feel proud of, you know? Things I never thought I'd have.

• 1:19:03Speaker 01

  Hmm. And where's that? I know you said, I think you said Panama City Beach. You got a place down there?

• 1:19:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:08Speaker 01

  That was so funny.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  What did you say? You said that was my favorite thing about you?

• 1:19:11Speaker 01

  Well, my favorite thing that I heard, dude, when somebody's like, man, I got me a beach house down in Panama City Beach. That shit just made me laugh. Was because what I remember of it from being in like, uh, high school and college, it was just a place where we were just trashed kids.

• 1:19:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:24Speaker 01

  You know? So to like, so just to see a text or somebody's like, we got a beach house down there.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:29Speaker 01

  And I know it's a nice beach. I know the Gulf is nice, man. It's like, there's not a part of the Gulf that's not even like, uh, built up now, man. It used to be so different.

• 1:19:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, I, I'm in, uh, I'm right outside of Panama City and it's, it's a little quieter where I'm at. But yeah, no, we all had our spring break trips to Panama City and it was rowdy.

• 1:19:49Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, right now you got, uh, I'm trying to think, was there something that you guys wanted to talk about that was specific?

• 1:19:58Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. I'm Riley.

• 1:20:02Speaker 01

  Get ready with me. Uh, well, Riley gives me a hard time. Um, you, you got a new album that's coming out in September, September 18th, I think?

• 1:20:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, that's just me is the name of the album. Uh, I put three songs off the album out. Uh, last week, a song called Go Again, uh, the girl Hannah McFarlane's on that song. Uh, a song called Think Is You Drunk. It's my new single at country radio and a song called My Way. Uh, there you go. And, uh, yeah, the album's gonna come, we're gonna put a couple more songs off the album out between now and then, but the album will be out, it's 19 songs. Comes out September, so.

• 1:20:39Speaker 01

  Hell yeah. Do you feel any type of way about this album different than other albums? Do you feel, do you feel pressured to get, well, answer that question first, if you don't mind. Yeah. What's different about this album or what's kind of the same?

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  I think it's, uh, don't mind if I do, that record, I think had a lot of different types of songs on it. I think that's something that I, I did well on that one. So I made sure this one was the same way. I got a lot of songs that sound like stuff I've written for years. Then I got a lot of songs that are a little different, you know? And I got fun beach songs. I got drinking songs. I got, you know, love ballads. And so I, I think that that's what I'm, I'm excited about the album is, I think as a whole, it's a good project.

• 1:21:20Speaker 02

  But again, I try not to do anything too different in the sense of how I go about putting out music, you know? It's, it's always, what I've done so far has kind of worked.

• 1:21:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, what about like in your, like outside of music life, outside of your farm and stuff like that? Do you think, um, like you're a guy that probably has an easy time meeting ladies. Do you feel like, like settling down is in the future? Like, do you ever think about that? Like, cause you and I, we're both growing up.

• 1:21:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. I feel like you, you, you know, better than that because you're in that world too. Like it's really not that easy to meet a girl when you're doing what we're doing. Like, I mean, I'm not gonna meet a girl to show, you know? I mean, I'm, I'm confined to the back, you know, on a bus. And, uh, I'm not gonna meet a girl on Instagram, you know what I mean? And, and when you get to a place where people are, you know, it gets tough to know who you're meeting for what. And I always feel like if I met somebody that was like a fan, I feel like it would be tough for me to be like, you know, I would look at them like, you're probably the same way too. Is I go in a bar and when people start, you get a little bit like anxious. Yeah. I mean, I, I, I don't mind being the center of attention at like a show. Or if I'm in a town, I'm playing a show and I go to a restaurant or a bar down the street, but like, I don't like being the center of attention when I'm not supposed to.

• 1:22:29Speaker 02

  That always makes me feel odd. I don't like to feel like if I went to another show and people were asking me for a picture and there was somebody else on stage, that would make me feel really, really rude. You know? So like a restaurant, it's not that people ask me for a picture bothers me. It's just, I don't wanna be standing up causing a scene.

• 1:22:44Speaker 01

  Now I'm the center of attention.

• 1:22:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't like that. So, you know, when you go, like, I'm not gonna meet a girl at the bar. You've been to Losers and Duck Blind with me and we sit on the back deck away from everybody, you know, kind of hiding.

• 1:22:54Speaker 01

  Oh dude, one night I sat out there by myself, uh, on Losers back porch and I was watching Netflix back there.

• 1:22:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:00Speaker 01

  Just watching two, I watched two episodes of something.

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, no, it's, it's, it's tough.

• 1:23:06Speaker 01

  Is it cake? I think it was.

• 1:23:07Speaker 02

  Yeah. I feel like if I could be in one place for a while, like live somewhere, that's another thing. I don't feel like I live anywhere. I got a house in Nashville and I'll stay there every once in a while. I got a farm in Alabama.

• 1:23:16Speaker 01

  Have you always felt like that? Well, you must not. Your farm must feel like some type of way to you, but have you always felt like you didn't live somewhere? It's kind of interesting feeling, bro. I've never heard anybody say that and I relate to that a hundred percent.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:27Speaker 01

  I've never really felt like I lived somewhere.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  Well, my farm is like, by the time I get there, I'm already thinking about, I gotta leave again. Like I'm there for two, three days. That's not long enough to really get settled in. You don't really know which way to go while you're there. But no, when I was doing construction work, playing shows on the weekends, I'd be home every night. Like that was, no, that was, that's always felt like home to me. But right now I just don't live in one place, you know? I'm flying to LA every week and on the road on the weekends and.

• 1:23:53Speaker 01

  But if you think, if you keep it like that though, then you're, do you think that there's a possibility that something could change? That you could like, you know, meet somebody, start a family with that type of lifestyle?

• 1:24:02Speaker 02

  No, not the way it is now.

• 1:24:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:05Speaker 02

  It, it's gonna have to change in the sense of like, well, you talked about you're coming off tour and, and not knowing what to do with yourself. I've gotta get to that point. I would love to try to get bored of, of being at home. I just, I, I can't remember the last time I had a week off, you know? I mean, maybe around Christmas.

• 1:24:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:24:21Speaker 02

  Uh, but I played shows until January, I mean, December 27th last year, you know? So I mean, it's, it's, uh, if I could, and right now I could go take a month off. I could. But I just can't, with everything going on and the opportunities I've got, I can't make myself do it. So I'm sort of like grinding right now. I keep my nose down, say yes to everything. And, and then in a couple of years, things will stop doing this and they'll kind of playing off and I'll have this career. And I'll say, all right, I'm gonna play 40 or 60 shows a year. I might film a little TV show or a movie or whatever. And then I can have a life outside of it, you know? But it's just tough to do right now.

• 1:24:55Speaker 01

  But do you start to think about trying to, cause yeah, cause here's the thing like there will always be probably, I don't think there will always be opportunities, but there's always like things you can say yes to, you know, like do, are you at a spot where you can kind of couture it a little bit more and kind of shape it how you want it?

• 1:25:10Speaker 02

  I am.

• 1:25:11Speaker 01

  Are you still, are you still in a space where there's a little bit of fear of like, fuck, if I don't do this stuff, you know?

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  The really fortunate thing I've got going on is right now my career is in such a upward slant that the things I'm getting asked to do, I can't say no to.

• 1:25:24Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:25:24Speaker 02

  They're hosting CMA Fest or being a coach on The Voice. I mean, you gotta think, there's one country music artist that's a coach on The Voice.

• 1:25:31Speaker 01

  That's a good point.

• 1:25:32Speaker 02

  I mean, like Blake Shelton, Reba's been on there. Like it's, it's a once in a lifetime opportunity. And you gotta think about all the people in country music that are so lucky to be where they are and have the careers they are. And they don't even have that opportunity.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:43Speaker 02

  You know, so.

• 1:25:44Speaker 01

  Did you get to audition for that opportunity?

• 1:25:45Speaker 02

  Uh, they met with me and, and I, I sort of told them that, you know, they were considering me. I sort of told them that I, I got what they wanted. And they want somebody that's sort of funny, sort of dry, that cuts up and uh, they came to a show and I had a little Q and A with somebody beforehand and we cut up back and forth. And then I went on Jimmy Kimmel, Jimmy Fallon. And they got me on the couch and I, we had a little duck call moment, you know, that was funny. And that's how I got the job, you know? It was just goofing off, doing this.

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. Did it feel, does that feel like a, like, I don't know. I mean, it's just interesting because it's kind of a mainstream thing, but it's also a thing that kind of like you're saying, yeah, like it, like eternal, like it like, kind of makes you eternal in a way. It like kind of puts you in a different perspective.

• 1:26:28Speaker 02

  It's very household.

• 1:26:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:26:30Speaker 02

  And it's very outside of the genre of country. So, you know, I would guess that most of my fans are country music fans, you know? I can tell and I could tell it from the first day of filming. I'm the least famous person as a coach on The Voice right now with the people that are fans of The Voice. Kelly Clarkson's been on it forever. Adam Levine's been on it forever. Queen Latifah's on it with me and she's iconically famous, you know? So the fact that I can tell I'm not as well known in that world only tells me how much I've gained from it because it's put me in front of so many different people, you know?

• 1:27:03Speaker 01

  Did you ask somebody like, do I think this is, oh, how fast does a chair go?

• 1:27:07Speaker 02

  Uh,

• 1:27:10Speaker 02

  I mean, a little, about like you would turn normally in an office chair. If somebody said, hey, look at this Native American dog.

• 1:27:20Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 1:27:20Speaker 01

  Get ready with me while I look at this Native American dog.

• 1:27:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:27:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:27:25Speaker 02

  But it's not, it's just not gonna throw you out of the chair.

• 1:27:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Okay, got it. If you had someone sit on your lap, would it turn slower? You think it would turn the same amount?

• 1:27:33Speaker 02

  I think it's got enough power. You could have two people on your lap and it wouldn't change the speed. I think you go much over that. You're gonna, ball bearings issue, I imagine. I don't, you know?

• 1:27:44Speaker 01

  Um, what was the idea, dude? I remember we talked one night about this for a few minutes. You said you had a different idea for how the chair could work. That would be interesting. What was it? I can't remember.

• 1:27:52Speaker 02

  I think the chair should start facing the contestant.

• 1:27:56Speaker 01

  Yes, bro.

• 1:27:56Speaker 02

  And then you turn away when you don't like it. Okay. Now what would be tough about that is you're gonna be looking at them.

• 1:28:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:03Speaker 02

  So, you know, like they're gonna take it. It's personal.

• 1:28:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:07Speaker 02

  Cause the surprise when you turn, you know, sometimes people don't look like they sound, you know? Uh, or it's not who or what you think it is.

• 1:28:13Speaker 01

  Right. So there's a little more of a reveal there, but there'd also be a neat reveal if you, if you turned away.

• 1:28:18Speaker 02

  And you're like, you just, you're sitting there and they're singing and they're just singing their little heart out of your eyes.

• 1:28:23Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? You just turn and, because here's the thing, yes, that would be awkward for a split second.

• 1:28:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:27Speaker 02

  Cause you'd be making eye contact when you press a button and turn away, but then you're facing the other way. You're good.

• 1:28:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:28:31Speaker 02

  Problem with what we're doing now is I'm facing away. And then when I turn to them or don't turn, they still turn your chair and then you gotta explain to them why you didn't turn.

• 1:28:39Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh.

• 1:28:41Speaker 02

  It's tough.

• 1:28:42Speaker 01

  Have you guys started filming it?

• 1:28:43Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 1:28:44Speaker 01

  And do you have like total carte blanche on what you think? Like do they, is there any like, are they intervening or is it?

• 1:28:49Speaker 02

  It's, it's completely unscripted. Uh,

• 1:28:54Speaker 02

  they don't even tell you like what might be coming up next. And we would do like 18 people a day, I think. And it's a long day. We get there at nine, leave it like nine at night. Uh, we're done with the blind auditions now, but that was, it's not, it's not that hard to do. Cause it is, it's this, you know, you're just cutting up. It does get tough to find new things to say when somebody's not quite.

• 1:29:14Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, dude, I could imagine that. It's hard to think of anything.

• 1:29:18Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 1:29:18Speaker 01

  Especially if you're trying to think.

• 1:29:19Speaker 02

  Musically, there's only so many terms, you know, and, and I'm sitting here and I'm like, I don't want to say the same thing over and over again, but sometime, a lot of it is just nerves. A lot of it, I've heard people that are, you can tell really talented singers, but they come on there and it's a very awkward thing. You got chairs facing away from you. The lights are on, it's on camera, it's on television. There's an audience there and then they start singing and they're really winded, which is a nerve thing, you know, you can't catch the breath. And then by the end they'll, they'll get it going, you know, but

• 1:29:44Speaker 01

  dang.

• 1:29:45Speaker 02

  It's a, it's a, yeah, I mean, it's people's dreams there, you know, and we're trying to make it fun and make good television out of it, but that, there's also a lot of really great stories to come out of it. I'm sure I'm excited about getting to work with the artists and all that.

• 1:29:58Speaker 01

  Dude, I was staying at a hotel. I went like whenever they had the freeze in Nashville, when everything got frozen or whatever, you know?

• 1:30:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:30:05Speaker 01

  Um, I had been at the UFC that weekend and the freeze was like coming on Monday and everybody like wasn't sure what was gonna happen, you know? Cause you don't know if it's gonna be, how bad it's gonna be. And so I was like, well, I'm just gonna get out of town. I was like, I'm just gonna go to, uh, so I went to Hawaii for a few days. So I was like, it was like,

• 1:30:21Speaker 02

  It's not gonna freeze there.

• 1:30:22Speaker 01

  Right. Not gonna freeze. There was one place that had good weather. So I was like, I'm out. And I went with like a security guy. So I had somebody to go with me, right? Cause otherwise I was just gonna be out there by myself. And he and I stayed at this place and like, it was all like people that was like getting married or whatever, you know? And then it's me and him eating like, like, we had like five, like romantic, like nice damn like candlelit dinners. It's just fucking meat.

• 1:30:44Speaker 02

  Do y'all?

• 1:30:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's me and him, dude.

• 1:30:45Speaker 02

  Did your shoes light up?

• 1:30:48Speaker 01

  Dude, get ready with me. Uh, no, his shoes didn't light up, dude. Neither, mine didn't either.

• 1:30:53Speaker 02

  Okay, hold on.

• 1:30:54Speaker 01

  This is a good game show.

• 1:30:55Speaker 02

  I don't wanna do this on a side note, but what if you had shoes that were like a mood ring?

• 1:30:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:30:59Speaker 02

  So when you're fairly into somebody, think about how easy dating would be then.

• 1:31:05Speaker 02

  Shoes are just flashing red or green, I guess would be like, and she's like, oh, he likes me.

• 1:31:11Speaker 01

  And what if hers are like flashing, just not flashing?

• 1:31:15Speaker 01

  And hers are just.

• 1:31:16Speaker 02

  Indifferent. No, you need a, like really not into you needs to be a color red probably, right?

• 1:31:20Speaker 01

  Or hers start making that backup, sounding like them big trucks backup. Yeah. And she just starts moving. Yeah.

• 1:31:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:25Speaker 01

  Oh. God, we should have that. Dude, we have fricking so much stuff.

• 1:31:30Speaker 02

  So however a mood ring works is like the heat or blood flow, whatever, your feet have to have the same thing. A hundred percent.

• 1:31:36Speaker 01

  Well, yeah.

• 1:31:36Speaker 02

  You might not be able to wear socks with them, but big deal, you know?

• 1:31:38Speaker 01

  Some people say your feet like are like the,

• 1:31:41Speaker 02

  The hands of your leg. Yeah. No, they say that.

• 1:31:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude.

• 1:31:45Speaker 02

  The hands of your leg is what, is that what you meant?

• 1:31:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, the eyes are the brains of the face.

• 1:31:51Speaker 02

  Yeah. From a visual aspect, yeah.

• 1:31:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, from all of it. Um, but no, dude, that's exactly what I'm saying. But no, I think.

• 1:31:59Speaker 02

  The ears are the elbow of your head. Come on, dude, think about it.

• 1:32:03Speaker 01

  Nuh-uh. I'm not thinking about any more stuff.

• 1:32:05Speaker 02

  What were we talking about?

• 1:32:06Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 1:32:06Speaker 02

  I went on the shooting, you were doing good.

• 1:32:08Speaker 01

  Have you been in here? What was that? What, what, what, yeah, what were we talking about? It was pretty good.

• 1:32:12Speaker 02

  No, you were talking about, uh,

• 1:32:15Speaker 01

  Look dude, this whole thing is we're just running a sting operation on the neighbors. Okay. That's, that's all this is about. The,

• 1:32:21Speaker 02

  He's home.

• 1:32:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:24Speaker 01

  He's home. Let's go. Um, no, I was just gonna think, what, yeah, what were we talking about? I want to get through that one idea. Did we get through any ideas on this?

• 1:32:34Speaker 02

  You know, uh, I, I've had a good time. Do you think that the guy back there knows what's, I mean, like what's going on? Is he like, you were talking about this?

• 1:32:42Speaker 01

  Dude, he sat in here with so many types of people. Sometimes it's one way. I'll say this, Trevin, do you feel like you ever know how one of these conversations is gonna go?

• 1:32:50Speaker 03

  Never know, man.

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  What bothers me about it is I feel like I should be able to retrace my steps to why I was talking about light up shoes. Oh, you're going to dinner with your security guard.

• 1:32:59Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:32:59Speaker 02

  Romantic dinner.

• 1:33:00Speaker 01

  And this is what happened. So right next door and they were doing the show that Luke Bryan is on.

• 1:33:09Speaker 02

  Or the, uh, America's Got Talent.

• 1:33:11Speaker 01

  America's Got Talent.

• 1:33:12Speaker 02

  American Idol.

• 1:33:13Speaker 01

  American Idol.

• 1:33:14Speaker 02

  With respect.

• 1:33:15Speaker 01

  And he even called it America's Got Talent once. And I corrected.

• 1:33:18Speaker 02

  Really?

• 1:33:19Speaker 01

  Yes. But now other people are correcting me. Cause I caught it from him.

• 1:33:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:25Speaker 01

  But what I'm saying is, yeah, we're sitting there and right there they had the show. Anyway, it was just kind of interesting. Cause for five days we watched them tape this thing right there on the beach.

• 1:33:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:33Speaker 01

  You know, so.

• 1:33:34Speaker 02

  Was, uh, Luke was in Hawaii?

• 1:33:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was nice. I got to see him. I got to meet him. Uh, wait, I met him before. Uh, we went fishing like a couple of weeks ago at his place.

• 1:33:42Speaker 02

  He loves to fish, hunt, golf and drink.

• 1:33:43Speaker 01

  Dude, I'll say this, he's one of the,

• 1:33:47Speaker 02

  What? He does. He loves that.

• 1:33:49Speaker 01

  What do you think? He likes to fish, golf and drink?

• 1:33:51Speaker 02

  Fish, hunt, golf and drink. He loves to do those things.

• 1:33:53Speaker 01

  How do you know that?

• 1:33:54Speaker 02

  Uh, he's wrote a song about it.

• 1:33:56Speaker 01

  No, he didn't.

• 1:33:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's called, uh, I think it's called Fish Hunt Golf Drink.

• 1:34:00Speaker 01

  And what else? And something else?

• 1:34:02Speaker 02

  Just those things.

• 1:34:03Speaker 01

  That, oh, that's it?

• 1:34:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, you can play it if you want.

• 1:34:07Speaker 01

  Is it good? It's called.

• 1:34:08Speaker 02

  What kind of question is that? It's, I mean, it's a country classic, I imagine.

• 1:34:12Speaker 01

  Get ready with me while I listen to this.

• 1:34:13Speaker 02

  Get ready with me while I go fish hunt. Now, what would you wear for that?

• 1:34:17Speaker 01

  Fish hunt, golf, drink? Dude, I'd fucking.

• 1:34:19Speaker 02

  You don't have to play it right now.

• 1:34:21Speaker 01

  No, we don't have to play it.

• 1:34:21Speaker 02

  Just put it on here.

• 1:34:22Speaker 01

  We'll play it in our imagination.

• 1:34:23Speaker 02

  I played in the car on the way home, let it up. No, he, he, he gave me credit for him writing that song.

• 1:34:29Speaker 01

  He gave you credit?

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  Or he blamed me, one of the two, yeah.

• 1:34:32Speaker 01

  Oh, he did?

• 1:34:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:34:33Speaker 01

  I don't even know that.

• 1:34:34Speaker 02

  He texted me and said that, uh, we need to get together, it's been too long. And he said, fish, hunt, golf, drink.

• 1:34:39Speaker 01

  Oh, nice, dude.

• 1:34:39Speaker 02

  So I was not there. I didn't write the song, had nothing to do with the song. I didn't even send the text. I didn't even say, that's a cool text. Or you should write a song, I did nothing to do with it. So I want to say that while we're here.

• 1:34:51Speaker 01

  Well, I'm gonna read some of it right here.

• 1:34:52Speaker 02

  Okay, well, just read, do me a favor. Read it like stand-up poetry.

• 1:34:57Speaker 01

  I have not heard this song.

• 1:34:58Speaker 02

  Okay, well, so just, you know, like, put a little feeling behind it. Some passion.

• 1:35:03Speaker 01

  Wake up, coffee, camo, climb tree, wet line, eighteen.

• 1:35:09Speaker 02

  So you said, wake up, coffee, like you were saying, like, good morning, moon, or good night, moon. You did it like that, that was cool. Go ahead, I'm sorry.

• 1:35:15Speaker 01

  Wake up, coffee, camo, climb tree, wet line, eighteen, fish hunt, golf, drink. All fall, all spring, all summer long, I'll be living it up and living it on. A country boy's dream, fish hunt, golf, drink. I like it. It's a high coup.

• 1:35:36Speaker 02

  It's got a little bit of the, like, the caterpillar book to it.

• 1:35:39Speaker 01

  It's got a hit of the tism, dude.

• 1:35:41Speaker 02

  Have you ever read, uh, children's books?

• 1:35:42Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 1:35:43Speaker 02

  Like, I mean, out loud, like, for audiobook. You'd be great at that.

• 1:35:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, thanks, man.

• 1:35:48Speaker 02

  Fish hunt, golf, drink.

• 1:35:49Speaker 01

  Fish hunt, golf, drink. I wouldn't mind that. I'm trying to think. Well, I don't need to be drinking, but fishing, I would love to go.

• 1:35:57Speaker 02

  I'm gonna take you duck hunting this year.

• 1:35:58Speaker 01

  Will you really?

• 1:35:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, you, you just gotta, like, I, I know that you're as bad as me about scheduling and stuff, but I'm not going through management to do it, so I'll just text you and be like, hey, man, I got these days.

• 1:36:08Speaker 01

  You're the busy guy. You were down in Pensacola, you were going to somewhere else, Barbados or something?

• 1:36:12Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:36:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:36:15Speaker 02

  I don't think I've been to Barbados, man. I.

• 1:36:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, I guess you didn't go then.

• 1:36:18Speaker 02

  Saskatchewan.

• 1:36:20Speaker 01

  Oh, are you going there?

• 1:36:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:21Speaker 01

  She was making up names of places.

• 1:36:22Speaker 02

  Windy City, is that what the hell you say it? No, that's a real place.

• 1:36:25Speaker 01

  Saskatchewan?

• 1:36:26Speaker 02

  It's in Canada.

• 1:36:26Speaker 01

  No, it's beautiful up there, I've been up there, it's in, uh, is that next to Eds? What's the one next to Edmonton? Is that?

• 1:36:31Speaker 02

  The Big Apple.

• 1:36:32Speaker 01

  No, it's not the big.

• 1:36:33Speaker 02

  Edmonton, yeah.

• 1:36:33Speaker 01

  No, it's not the big.

• 1:36:34Speaker 02

  That's what they, I mean, yeah, you don't know what they call it there.

• 1:36:36Speaker 01

  Bro, I didn't know you were so funny, dude. I thought, God.

• 1:36:39Speaker 02

  I've been trying to tell you. No, I was honestly gonna tell you how funny I was at my birthday party when you just got two pieces of cake and ran out the door.

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  Fuck you, dude. I didn't even wanna go.

• 1:36:47Speaker 02

  He literally was like, I saw his back, he was eating cake out the.

• 1:36:50Speaker 01

  Dude, I came to your party, you hated it.

• 1:36:52Speaker 02

  No, seriously, thanks for coming.

• 1:36:53Speaker 01

  I'm outta here.

• 1:36:54Speaker 02

  No, thank you for coming.

• 1:36:55Speaker 01

  I left because you weren't having fun. Dude, you wouldn't, and also.

• 1:37:00Speaker 02

  No, here's the thing, you came to my surprise party and you didn't even wanna be there, that's how I've had it, you know? You were downstairs, sitting by yourself in the back deck of losers, and you're like, I'd rather be down there than in this room with these people in this celebration.

• 1:37:11Speaker 01

  Dude, I was watching a series, I was on the third episode.

• 1:37:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  You know, it's like, people are trying their best. You know, not everything's gonna be just for you, Riley.

• 1:37:21Speaker 02

  Well, you know what would be really fun?

• 1:37:23Speaker 01

  Huh?

• 1:37:23Speaker 02

  Is if you did a get ready with me to go to my birthday party.

• 1:37:29Speaker 01

  Man, I ain't doing all that shit, bro. You got me messed up.

• 1:37:33Speaker 02

  Let's do one get ready with me.

• 1:37:34Speaker 01

  You got me messed up, slime.

• 1:37:36Speaker 02

  I'll pick what yours is, you can pick what mine is.

• 1:37:37Speaker 01

  Nah, bro, we can't do a damn get ready with me?

• 1:37:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:40Speaker 01

  Uh, oh, that might not be a bad idea, really, if we thought of some good ones, dude. Wonder what yours would be, dude?

• 1:37:49Speaker 01

  Get ready with me while I'm, while I go be an asshole somewhere, that's what I would pick, dude.

• 1:37:53Speaker 02

  I swear.

• 1:37:55Speaker 01

  Well, what would you pick for mine, though?

• 1:37:59Speaker 02

  Get ready with me while I go to the pound and try to find a Native American dog.

• 1:38:05Speaker 01

  And I would bring, like, some sage or something with me?

• 1:38:07Speaker 02

  I feel like you would go to a dog park and be like, so is this a Native American dog park? Like, you can, is it, or is just all regular dogs, or is there any dogs that are?

• 1:38:14Speaker 01

  There's like a burial ground there or something? Maybe I would.

• 1:38:17Speaker 02

  That's a talent to ask weird questions, though, to be able to come up with them. You know what I mean?

• 1:38:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, I guess, I don't know, man, I don't have a ton, like, a lot of times, it's just like, you know, we're gonna catch up. You know, I know that you have a lot going on in your life, so it was, I, I was glad to get to catch up. And, yeah, I mean, doing the, something like The Voice, it feels like a big change, because it's like, um, you know, you have this kind of like, you're, you're a country musician, you're respected by people in that world, and you've had a lot of success in it. And, and then you kind of, there's something that's a bit more of a, like, a commercial appeal, which is awesome, and I understand, like, you're, you're understand, I understand, like, your perspective on it. And, and I don't know, I just think it's interesting, you know? It's interesting how things come along in life, because some people probably say no to things, some people probably say yes to things.

• 1:39:02Speaker 02

  Well, the interesting thing about a career like we've got is, you're kind of in charge of how successful you can be. I mean, yeah, things have to go well, people have to like whatever art you create, whether it's comedy, music, whatever, but, like, if you don't go do the stuff, you're not gonna get the opportunity, and I can't tell you how many things I've gone and done that necessarily on paper were not gonna be beneficial or financially worth doing. But there was an opportunity there that led to something else, that led to something else, that's how The Voice was. Uh, all the acting stuff that I've been able to do so far, and, you know, I mean, think about stand-up comedians. How many of them that are, you know, household names have been really successful only have done stand-up?

• 1:39:40Speaker 02

  They've all acted, or been on some other platform, Saturday Night Live, whatever, even the, even the, like, guys that were just great stand-up guys, like Eddie Murphy and Dave Chappelle, and they all had other avenues after, well, I mean.

• 1:39:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:39:53Speaker 02

  You almost know Eddie Murphy better now for his acting, you know, and.

• 1:39:56Speaker 01

  That's a great point.

• 1:39:57Speaker 02

  A great stand-up comedian, so.

• 1:39:58Speaker 01

  I bet a lot, you're right.

• 1:39:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean.

• 1:40:00Speaker 01

  I bet there's a lot of people that wouldn't know that he was a stand-up comedian.

• 1:40:03Speaker 02

  That's what I mean. And if you didn't get your start on Saturday Night Live, that's kind of how you branch out and do something else, because I feel like in comedy would probably be much worse, because you have to come up with so much more material. Whereas music, you can have an album out and tour for a year off of it, and still play some of those songs for years to come.

• 1:40:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:40:21Speaker 02

  But you have to be a whole lot more creative regularly in comedy, but if that's all you did, that would get really monotonous after a while, you get tired of it. I got, the only time I ever got tired of music was, it was two thousand fourteen, fifteen, sixteen in there, and I was playing the same clubs, same venues, over and over again, playing the same songs, and it got to be where I just didn't look forward to it, you know?

• 1:40:41Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:40:42Speaker 02

  As long as things are growing, and you can find other things, like.

• 1:40:46Speaker 01

  Was there ever a tour that you did that you got asked to go on that you just chose not to? Are there different tours that you get asked to do? How often does that happen with, with artists?

• 1:40:53Speaker 02

  I've been really fortunate that I've had a pretty good tour in business for the last ten years, so I, I, I have to turn down some tours, because I can make more money touring on my own. Plus, I feel like there's a little bit of, if you get caught in that opening act role, it's hard to get out of it. If you never go, because, you know, like, what's open for somebody is great, because, one, you got guaranteed money. The venue, if it snows and the venue shuts down, you still get paid. You don't have to pay for production, catering, anything like that, so there's no overhead, and you get in front of new fans, so it's a great way to get some exposure, but if you don't go play your own show, you're not building a fan base.

• 1:41:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:41:30Speaker 02

  Because people have to be there to see you, so it, for me, I always, if I went open for somebody and played a stadium or an arena, I'd go back and play a club there, you know, after, and try to get the most out of it if I could. But yeah, I don't, I don't do any real open slots anymore, so it's nice.

• 1:41:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah, oh, and I, I mean, it's definitely nice, and sometimes I forget about the work that I have done, I forget about all the spots that I played, I forget, like, I forget about all the time I put in on things.

• 1:41:54Speaker 02

  So you get there and you remember something about the backstage, the green room looks familiar, like, oh, I've been here.

• 1:41:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:41:59Speaker 02

  Happens to me all the time.

• 1:42:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. Um, right now, you have the Cowboy As It Gets Tour. Um, who's open, who's working with you on it?

• 1:42:08Speaker 02

  Justin Moore, Randy Houser.

• 1:42:11Speaker 01

  Oh, nice.

• 1:42:12Speaker 02

  Uh, a guy named Drake White, uh, Hannah McFarlane, Mackenzie Carpenter. I kind of try to have a parade of first, first of four and second of four guys and girls, just because I, I like having people out that, uh, you know, get, give them an opportunity to get in front of a bunch of fans, really fortunate that all these shows are selling out, we've got big crowds and.

• 1:42:30Speaker 01

  That's so cool, dude.

• 1:42:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, man.

• 1:42:32Speaker 01

  God, I wish I could fricking sing, you freak. Sorry.

• 1:42:37Speaker 02

  They have a pretty good turkey call, though.

• 1:42:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, but all I'm gonna meet, yeah, but I ain't meeting, you know what I'm saying? But a turkey call.

• 1:42:43Speaker 02

  I saw you sing my song.

• 1:42:45Speaker 01

  All you gonna meet is a turkey.

• 1:42:45Speaker 02

  With Ella, you sang it backstage, dude. I missed it, we did, we got there the next day, I think.

• 1:42:49Speaker 01

  Oh, I thought you were there.

• 1:42:50Speaker 02

  Wind it out, we didn't get to play.

• 1:42:52Speaker 01

  I thought you were there.

• 1:42:53Speaker 02

  Mm-mm.

• 1:42:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, dude, that was great, bro.

• 1:42:55Speaker 02

  You're telling me you're nervous.

• 1:42:57Speaker 01

  Yes, I was fricking nervous, dude.

• 1:42:59Speaker 02

  That's such a, that's such a.

• 1:43:01Speaker 01

  Well, it was, I was like.

• 1:43:02Speaker 02

  It's such an easy song in a sense of the crowd knows every word and the talking verses and all that, you know, it's a little easier to do, but I, I'll bring people up out of the crowd to do it sometime.

• 1:43:09Speaker 01

  Oh, you will?

• 1:43:10Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:10Speaker 01

  Oh, dude, that's cool, bro. Yeah, well, the tough part was, like, I knew the song, but then when you have a responsibility to do the words, you're like, you know, it kind of sets you like, all right, now I have like, I gotta do the responsibility.

• 1:43:24Speaker 02

  You start thinking about it.

• 1:43:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:43:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:25Speaker 01

  And then, uh, the craziest part, this part was kind of funny, my, uh, my buddy, we wrote the call, the notes down, or the words on the cards. We wrote the words on the cards, on a poster boards. And, um, and so he's standing there with them by the side of the stage, just in case, right?

• 1:43:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:43:43Speaker 01

  And then, but I didn't need them, I started doing good in my brain, and I didn't need them. And so he starts shaking the card, like, he's getting pissed and I'm not looking at the cards.

• 1:43:51Speaker 02

  Because he made these cards, yeah.

• 1:43:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm like, dude, I don't need them.

• 1:43:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're here for. Should've been happy that you didn't need them, but.

• 1:43:57Speaker 01

  Right, you should've just been.

• 1:43:58Speaker 02

  I was a little selfish of him.

• 1:43:59Speaker 01

  He should've been ripping them up and throwing them in the air or something, but he's sitting there like, yeah, yeah, yeah, you know, and just giving me like a bunch of grief or whatever. You know, just like a bunch of poster board grief or whatever. And so, yeah, I don't know, that was kind of a lot, but, um, oh, and then it was windy and my hat kept coming off and I kept having.

• 1:44:15Speaker 02

  You have a cowboy hat on?

• 1:44:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, I kept having to get it, and I was like, dang, I wish they made a really heavy hat.

• 1:44:19Speaker 02

  Or a, could've went that route.

• 1:44:22Speaker 01

  A chin strap?

• 1:44:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:44:23Speaker 01

  Come on, man.

• 1:44:24Speaker 02

  A cowboy hat, come on, man.

• 1:44:25Speaker 01

  You think I'm gonna wear a cowboy hat with a chin strap on it?

• 1:44:30Speaker 02

  Desperate times, man.

• 1:44:31Speaker 01

  Nah.

• 1:44:32Speaker 02

  Uh, I can't, I can't read lyrics.

• 1:44:35Speaker 01

  You're hilarious, man.

• 1:44:36Speaker 02

  And sing, you know it.

• 1:44:37Speaker 01

  Wait, you can't what?

• 1:44:38Speaker 02

  I can't read lyrics and sing. I've got to just know it, you know, like a teleprompter, whatever. I can't.

• 1:44:43Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:44:44Speaker 02

  And so if I look out in the crowd and, and read a sign or something while I'm, I just, I'll forget who I am. It messed me all up. Can't read anything. Can't look at anybody's sign in the crowd when I'm singing.

• 1:44:53Speaker 01

  Well, it's two different things, totally. I would rather know, I would rather just guess than be reading something. You know, just take my chances with whatever's gonna come up in my brain, but.

• 1:45:04Speaker 02

  Which could be anything.

• 1:45:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, which is kind of the best thing. Your brain is just like.

• 1:45:07Speaker 02

  Sometimes it is.

• 1:45:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like a glass of champagne, something, a bubble just comes right up and that's a new idea or something like that. I love that. That's my favorite thing about being alive is just seeing kind of what comes out of your brain, you know?

• 1:45:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:45:18Speaker 01

  And other people's brains. I think it's interesting. But yeah, man, it was, I, I felt lucky to get to do y'all's songs. So, yeah.

• 1:45:25Speaker 02

  It was cool. I, I gotta see some clips of it. You did good.

• 1:45:27Speaker 01

  I was happy to get to do it. Oh, dude, once I got out there and, and realized that I could sing, it was over, dude. I was like,

• 1:45:38Speaker 01

  I was a, I was a singer.

• 1:45:40Speaker 02

  We'll find one you can do with me and we'll, you come out to the show, we'll get you out to do one.

• 1:45:45Speaker 01

  Yep. I like that. Get ready with me.

• 1:45:48Speaker 02

  Get ready with me to go sing with Riley Green tonight.

• 1:45:50Speaker 01

  There we go, dude. Um, you have your new album. It's out on the 18th. Yep, that's it. September 18th. That's just me. Um, you have three singles that are already out from it?

• 1:46:00Speaker 02

  Yes, sir.

• 1:46:01Speaker 01

  Excellent. And, uh, and the Big As It Gets Tour? No. Cowboy As It Gets Tour.

• 1:46:08Speaker 02

  If you just wait on the slide, it'll be easy. I'm Riley Green and it's the Cowboys As It Gets Tour in 2026.

• 1:46:15Speaker 01

  You know what this is like? This is like, honestly, when you're having a rocky day at work and one of your boys shows up and helps you out.

• 1:46:21Speaker 02

  I thought that's what this is.

• 1:46:22Speaker 01

  Oh, that's, that's exactly what I'm saying.

• 1:46:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:24Speaker 01

  That's exactly what this is. So, thank you, bro.

• 1:46:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:28Speaker 01

  Thank you for showing up.

• 1:46:28Speaker 02

  You know, if you ever need me to come in when you got somebody cool here that you're doing, I can just sit on the couch and, you know what I mean? Just help.

• 1:46:35Speaker 01

  Dude, just come and do my part.

• 1:46:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:38Speaker 01

  Dude, you're good at this, man. You're really good at this, bro.

• 1:46:41Speaker 02

  I watched your show, man, this past weekend with Theo Von. I watched it.

• 1:46:48Speaker 01

  I appreciate that, man.

• 1:46:49Speaker 02

  Say some creative stuff on here.

• 1:46:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, we have over time, you know? Sometimes it's hitting.

• 1:46:55Speaker 02

  It's not all gold, but, man, if you sit here and talk for, what, two hours, there's bound to be something funny in there.

• 1:47:01Speaker 01

  Oh, there's fun stuff, man. I mean, I don't know. It's been interesting. Sometimes you find different things. Sometimes you learn stuff. Sometimes you don't learn stuff.

• 1:47:07Speaker 02

  No, I enjoyed that it's, uh, there's some seriousness in there, you know?

• 1:47:11Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I mean, sometimes you get a lot more serious. It just kind of depends, you know? I think, I can't tell if it has to do with my energy or it has to do with the guest's energy. It's probably just both of us and whatever's going on, you know?

• 1:47:22Speaker 02

  Well, I feel like there's a lot of places where me and you are in a similar spot with life outside of our careers.

• 1:47:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:47:29Speaker 02

  You know, so.

• 1:47:30Speaker 01

  And maybe we didn't talk about that enough. We did okay, though.

• 1:47:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, but we can do like a real deep thing, you know, we just share one mic and sit Indian style on the floor with just candles and do it all, you know what I mean?

• 1:47:41Speaker 01

  Oh, I know what I'll bring. My Indian dog with me.

• 1:47:45Speaker 02

  If you can get your hands on one.

• 1:47:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, there's one out there. Um, Riley Green, man, thanks so much, bro. Thanks for the music. Thanks for the entertainment. Uh, thanks for the entertainment today, dude. You're so, you're a funny guy, bro. I didn't realize that. And I know it's a weird thing to say to somebody else, but thanks for making me laugh. That's what I mean. I appreciate it, bro.

• 1:48:02Speaker 02

  That was fun.

• 1:48:02Speaker 01

  And, uh, congrats on all the success. And, um, I'll have to get out there and check out, uh, one of the shows this year.

• 1:48:07Speaker 02

  The Big As It Gets Tour.

• 1:48:09Speaker 01

  You're going to some, you're going to some good spots.

• 1:48:10Speaker 02

  Cowboys As It Gets.

• 1:48:11Speaker 01

  God.

• 1:48:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:48:12Speaker 01

  I'll be out there. Um, Riley Green, ladies and gentlemen, thank you, brother.

• 1:48:16Speaker 02

  Appreciate it, man.

• 1:48:16Speaker 01

  Yep.