Session 140: Adam Scott

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• 0:42Speaker 01

  Jake, your buzz looks amazing. Let's start there.

• 0:45Speaker 02

  Let's start with my buzz. I buzzed my hair and now I want a thigh tat.

• 0:48Speaker 01

  Well, I told Jake when he gets his hair buzzed, he has to get a thigh tat. I think like a tattoo and a buzz is just like a hot combination.

• 0:56Speaker 02

  Do you think we have time to go today before my?

• 0:57Speaker 01

  Yes, because I also want one and it's 1:30 PM.

• 1:01Speaker 03

  How long does it take? 20 minutes?

• 1:03Speaker 02

  And then like, how long can you not expose it to sun for?

• 1:06Speaker 01

  I mean, it doesn't matter. I expose mine to sun like an hour after.

• 1:10Speaker 03

  If it's on your thigh, it won't be in the sun, I don't think.

• 1:11Speaker 01

  Also, I want to dye Jake's hair lighter.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  I do too.

• 1:14Speaker 02

  So which one? Pick one today. Lighter?

• 1:16Speaker 01

  Oh, I would love to dye her hair today.

• 1:17Speaker 03

  But I don't want it to be bleached.

• 1:21Speaker 01

  I honestly think bleached buzzes are the hottest thing a guy can have, but, okay, but for you, I would start just like one shade. I would love to do his hair pink, but I'm gonna do my hair pink.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  But you have to bleach it first and then do pink. Should we just do it today?

• 1:38Speaker 03

  I'm down.

• 1:39Speaker 01

  Like I would do anything, so.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  Do you think that would?

• 1:42Speaker 03

  Do lighter, don't do pink.

• 1:43Speaker 01

  I think you should start with lighter and then we can play around with it and do pink in a few weeks.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  But before I get my tattoo, I want to do the severance procedure.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Sorry. What's that?

• 1:53Speaker 02

  It's when they like you go, it's like, you know how people do like ketamine therapy?

• 1:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:58Speaker 02

  It's like when they like put like a little electrons on your brain and for like the next hour, like you, like it severs your like frontal lobe and you don't feel like you don't remember, like you become another person for that hour, like your brain.

• 2:13Speaker 03

  So you don't feel the pain of the tattoo?

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Like people do it during childbirth.

• 2:16Speaker 01

  You're not, tattoos are not even bad. I have literally 18.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  And like mine are tiny, so that's probably why.

• 2:25Speaker 02

  It's nice sometimes. Like people do it for childbirth. Like people get severed for childbirth.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  I need to do that for childbirth for sure.

• 2:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  Terrified of having a baby.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  But we're adopting.

• 2:33Speaker 01

  We'll be fine. We'll adopt one. I would like to birth the other.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  But you know.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  It's very important.

• 2:39Speaker 03

  Well, you can get severed for that.

• 2:40Speaker 01

  And I'd like you to be in the room.

• 2:41Speaker 03

  Absolutely.

• 2:42Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Holding my hand.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  You've never heard of the severance procedure?

• 2:44Speaker 01

  No.

• 2:45Speaker 02

  Ever?

• 2:46Speaker 01

  Also, you don't need that for a tattoo. Like it's easy. It like does not hurt. I hate needles, but I.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  Well, you don't needles. They just put a little chip right here.

• 2:57Speaker 01

  Jake, that's like more pain than getting a tattoo.

• 3:00Speaker 02

  No, but it doesn't hurt though. Like people do it for work sometimes.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  Wait, what?

• 3:04Speaker 02

  Like people like, it's like if you're like handling like high government intel, you go in the like, you go to work and you get severed for the day. So you're like, they, they'll call it like their, like you like right now, we would be outies. And then your innie would be your severed version.

• 3:22Speaker 01

  What the actual fuck are you talking about? And also you don't need this to get a fucking tattoo.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  Look it up. Severance procedure. I'm not, I'm like not kidding. I'm like not kidding.

• 3:32Speaker 03

  You're like, I like, it's all over TikTok.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  You guys, I hate both of you.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  So tonight we have on Adam Scott, who stars in the hit show Severance on Apple TV.

• 3:44Speaker 01

  You do this to me every time. How are you always in on it?

• 3:48Speaker 03

  I don't know. I just riff.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  You thought that was real?

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Well, at first, then he started talking about a chip in your head and I'm like, what the fuck?

• 3:57Speaker 02

  Babe.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  Babe. We've had a lot of changes in our lives.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  We've had a lot of changes.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  I buzzed my hair.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  I just went to Germany.

• 4:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. How was Dusseldorf?

• 4:11Speaker 02

  It was fun.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  In your castle?

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was in a castle. I didn't sleep. I couldn't sleep there.

• 4:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:18Speaker 03

  You were in the factory?

• 4:19Speaker 02

  I was in the factory. I was in the factory making sure sourpuss got made. Um, I hung out with a lot of Germans.

• 4:27Speaker 03

  And how was that?

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Awesome. They're very lovely.

• 4:29Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 4:30Speaker 03

  My schmetterling.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Do you know I'm German?

• 4:34Speaker 03

  Really?

• 4:34Speaker 02

  Really?

• 4:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I actually am, but I don't know what percent.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Nein.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  I have other things to say. I get a text from Will yesterday saying he found a pastor for me. He really thinks I need church.

• 4:51Speaker 03

  You burst into flames.

• 4:52Speaker 01

  I would walk into church and I would actually light on fire.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Actually, as of late, you've been well.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  As of late, I've been great.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Cassidy is lowkey one of the most emotionally intelligent people I've ever met in my entire life.

• 5:06Speaker 03

  Slept on, I know.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  But yeah, it's true. I will give myself that.

• 5:09Speaker 03

  It's because you analyze things very hard.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  I do. I'm an observer also. Like I can watch a room and I won't speak, but I'll observe everyone's behavior and I'll just like think about it, but I will never say anything.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  You do say something every time.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I do say something actually. Um, and it's always them.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  And it's always about you.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  You always start a fight when you're drunk.

• 5:30Speaker 01

  Only to you.

• 5:31Speaker 03

  You both do.

• 5:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, I hate when he.

• 5:32Speaker 02

  Actually, you started a fight with me. Will Scott, a huge fight with me the other day.

• 5:36Speaker 03

  No.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  Yes, you did. You did get in a fight.

• 5:38Speaker 01

  I'm the one to start fights. Both of you do the same thing.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  No, I don't. Why would I ever want to fight on a night out?

• 5:44Speaker 03

  You walk up to me and do it.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  You always.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  When did I do that?

• 5:46Speaker 03

  First time I see you, you said hi.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he got so angry at me.

• 5:50Speaker 01

  I heard about this, babe. I'm so sorry.

• 5:52Speaker 02

  You did? Oh, from who?

• 5:53Speaker 03

  From what little birdie?

• 5:54Speaker 01

  Jake. He called me in the AM.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  Very anxious.

• 6:00Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 6:01Speaker 02

  What are you gonna be for Halloween?

• 6:03Speaker 01

  I don't know. I haven't thought about it, but I do love Halloween.

• 6:06Speaker 02

  What were you last year?

• 6:06Speaker 01

  Like I love being able to dress like slutty, even though like I dress slutty every day. But like, it's the one holiday you're allowed to like be naked.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  What, what were you last year?

• 6:17Speaker 01

  Okay, something's wrong.

• 6:18Speaker 03

  I can't remember what we, what were we last year?

• 6:21Speaker 01

  I'm like not able to like think right now.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  What were we last year?

• 6:24Speaker 01

  I just got off a flight. I told you that, but Jake made me film right when I got to his, um, house. I got off a flight, maybe what? 40 minutes ago?

• 6:33Speaker 03

  And they didn't let you, let you off the plane?

• 6:35Speaker 01

  They didn't let us board. I mean.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  You have terrible luck with planes. You have terrible luck with planes.

• 6:41Speaker 02

  Cass got off, Cass has lost her bag now twice.

• 6:46Speaker 01

  I don't know what the fuck is in the air with my luggage, but I just got back from Europe and I literally was sitting there with Sally, Peyton and Julia and I was like making a joke, like imagine our luggage doesn't get, doesn't come back. And I'm like, I have a really weird feeling, my luggage isn't coming back. And I'm like standing there and I checked mine in with Peyton and Peyton's comes down and I was like, that's weird. I put mine right behind hers and that made me super nervous. And I was like, no, there's no way. Like this can't happen to me again. It just happened to me in January. And all of a sudden Julia's comes, Sally's comes and I'm like, no, no, no, there's no fucking way. My, the luggage thing stops. Like fully stops.

• 7:30Speaker 01

  There are two people left with no luggage. I look at them and I go, your luggage isn't here.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  And I'm not kidding. I actually was like, there is no actual way. Yeah, my luggage was on the next flight because it was, um, 23 pounds overweight.

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Another issue.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  Have we spoken about on here when she lost her luggage with Frontier or no? She lost her luggage with Frontier and she went up to the Frontier worker and she said, where, I need help. My luggage is gone. And she saw them Googling on their computer what to do when someone's luggage is lost.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  Let me actually go back to this story and then I'll stop talking for a little. But it was me, Peyton and Sally. I feel like I'm talking the whole time.

• 8:12Speaker 03

  I don't care. I'm listening.

• 8:13Speaker 02

  I'm listening.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  Me, Peyton and Sally chose to fly Frontier Airlines and I don't know why the fuck we did that. My mom was like, that was your first mistake, which like, yeah. We literally were like, we're not paying over this amount of money to fly to Miami, whatever. So we chose the cheapest airline and we get off the flight.

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Well, first of all, your flight was delayed until 2:30 AM.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  No, this isn't even a possibility. Like there's no red eyes going from Miami to New York. And all of a sudden we get a notification, our flight is moved to 2:50 AM. Like, is that a thing?

• 8:46Speaker 03

  Well, the latest flights out are the ones that normally get moved and pushed.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  It's smack ass in the middle of the night.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  It was insane. Anyway, my luggage did not make it and I went to the person and she's Googling what to do when someone's luggage is lost. And I go, ma'am, do you, I go, do you work here? And she's like, mhm. And I'm like, gee, are you helping me get my luggage? I'm really confused. She has a Frontier Airlines badge. She's fucking taking it. I put it on myself. Because by the way, I ended up helping every other person who lost my luggage. There's a line behind me and I'm looking on my phone chat EBTing. What the fuck to do? I'm calling Frontier Airlines Customer Services. Girl's supposed to be working there. She's typing on the keyboard, has no idea what she's fucking doing, by the way. Like, it was a shit show. I got it back a week later because I moved my ass every night to JFK.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  She went to JFK.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  Every night for one week. And guess where my luggage was?

• 9:44Speaker 02

  In a cage.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  In a cage. The worst part is that the Thursday before I got it, I got it on Friday afternoon. Thursday, they opened the door and they go, that your luggage? I go, right there, thank God. Like, holy fuck, all my shit's in there. They go, mm, you can't get it today. I said, why? He goes, I don't have the key. I was like, you don't have the key? You just open the door. So anyway, I had to go back on Friday and get it. It was gnarly. That was a really dark period.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  Hey, am I styling my buzz correctly?

• 10:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love it.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  Yes, but, oh, can I tell you one thing that I've, I just want to tell you?

• 10:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  I want to shave the top a little more.

• 10:27Speaker 03

  No, I kind of like the link like that.

• 10:29Speaker 01

  Really? Just because it's kind of fuller up here.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  For the first go around, though.

• 10:32Speaker 02

  So should we get tattoos today?

• 10:34Speaker 01

  I'm down to get a tattoo. I really want to dye your hair darker.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  But I went and I tell, I was like, what?

• 10:39Speaker 01

  Oh, I like it.

• 10:40Speaker 03

  I like the banana peel, not the banana portion of it.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, banana peel.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  The peel.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  The peel.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  The peel.

• 10:46Speaker 03

  The peel.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  The peel.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  I would pay to get a matching tattoo with you, but I know you're not going to.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  You can get a banana peel.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's fitting for me.

• 10:54Speaker 03

  I don't either.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  A banana peel on my arm? No.

• 10:57Speaker 03

  It doesn't really match your skeleton.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  I got a skull on my ankle and Will had like a heart attack about it. He said, please don't do it. Please don't do it.

• 11:04Speaker 03

  And you know what? I was proved wrong. It looks great.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  What does a skull mean to you?

• 11:07Speaker 01

  I just, I don't know. That's the worst part. I was in a weird era. You know when it was?

• 11:13Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  The beginning of this year.

• 11:15Speaker 02

  You've had so many different hairstyles.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  We are not talking about the one I just sent. That was so mean that both of you, both of you were in Miami with me and let me go out like that.

• 11:26Speaker 03

  Wait, did you see my getup? Did you see my getup?

• 11:29Speaker 02

  Will had a cropped leather jacket and a mop on his head.

• 11:32Speaker 01

  I had a silver metallic leather, silver metallic leather jacket on and a mullet. And my hair, and my, my hair was literally maroon.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  Mind you, I posted that. I posted that.

• 11:44Speaker 01

  He posted it and I'm in the mirror like this. And he's literally next to me thinking.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  Cropped leather jacket.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  Did you guys miss me or what?

• 11:51Speaker 02

  A lot.

• 11:51Speaker 03

  Beyond.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Tonight on Therapist, we have Adam Scott, the star of Severance on Apple TV, which is one of the best shows on television. He is also the star of the new Netflix movie, The Whisper Man, out August 28th, which I got to see and it is amazing. Enjoy the episode. I love you pussies.

• 12:09Speaker 04

  My daughter says, please tell him I think he's the voice of our generation.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  No!

• 12:15Speaker 04

  And that I watch him every day.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Stop it. What's your daughter's name? Tell her to come here.

• 12:24Speaker 04

  She didn't drive today because she, uh, she wasn't feeling well this morning, so she got, had to get a ride.

• 12:29Speaker 02

  You know, I just got over a cold.

• 12:30Speaker 04

  You did?

• 12:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:32Speaker 04

  Bummer. You know, I, I have not been sick in, I saw, I, I have to admit, I fell asleep in the car on the way here. But I haven't been, I haven't been sick in like two years.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  Well, welcome to Therapist.

• 12:48Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  Thanks for being here.

• 12:50Speaker 04

  Thanks for having me, Jake.

• 12:51Speaker 02

  I'm such a fan.

• 12:52Speaker 04

  I'm a fan of yours as well.

• 12:54Speaker 02

  Are you really?

• 12:55Speaker 04

  I am. I, I thought you were terrific in the movie and I, of course, had seen you do things before then. But my daughter is, as you know, a huge fan of yours.

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  Step Brothers was like my first, like, big, it wasn't my first big thing, but it was like the first big thing that ended up mattering. Do you know what I mean? Like, you can do, you know how like, if you're in showbiz for a while, there, there's so many things that happen where you're like, oh, this is gonna be the thing? And then it's, it's not. And it just kind of, no one cares. And you're like, oh, maybe this is gonna be the thing. And then it's not and it just kind of goes and no one cares. Step Brothers was the first thing that sort of like actually helped coalesce a, a career together.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  Did you think Party Down was gonna be that thing?

• 13:48Speaker 04

  I never thought Party Down was gonna be anything, which is part of why it was so fun, is that none of us thought anyone would ever see it. Like, because we were on Starz at a time when they weren't really making TV shows and like, and then it started airing, no one was watching it. But we were having so much fun doing it and we had kind of a chip on our shoulder, like, our show's awesome and no one, no one's watching it, but who gives a shit? And we were just having such a blast and loved each other so much that it was like, who cares?

• 14:29Speaker 04

  Like, that's why it's awesome is because while we were making it, we weren't making it for, uh, to, to, to, for, for a career advancement at all. We were making it because we thought it was great. And so that sort of lives inside of it. And then eventually it did catch on way more than any of us ever thought it would.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  When did it catch on? Did it go on streaming on Netflix?

• 14:55Speaker 04

  It was on Netflix. I think it started catching on after it was canceled.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  Right.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  Like, a couple of years after, like, I remember, like, a year after it was canceled, we started talking about doing a movie. So it had sort of caught on by then. But when it was actually on, the, the final episode got 13,000 viewers. Like, no one was watching it.

• 15:20Speaker 02

  13,000 viewers?

• 15:22Speaker 04

  Viewers. Yeah, that's.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  That's low.

• 15:26Speaker 04

  That's low.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  That's low.

• 15:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:29Speaker 02

  Wow!

• 15:30Speaker 04

  I know, isn't that crazy?

• 15:30Speaker 02

  And it's become a cult classic.

• 15:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  Did you expect Severance at all to take off the way it did?

• 15:36Speaker 04

  No, I mean, we certainly hoped that people would be into it, but we also kind of thought it was maybe too weird and, um, didn't really know. And because you, I mean, by that point, I'd been doing it long enough that I knew that you never know if anything's gonna be popular or whatever. So I always just assume, uh, either everyone's gonna hate it or it's gonna be, do nothing and people just shrug. So we really didn't know, um, but were pleased that, uh, that people did.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  I mean, I watched that in college.

• 16:16Speaker 04

  You did?

• 16:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was like, day one, the finale came out.

• 16:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:21Speaker 02

  And my roommate, best friend Brett, I said, you need to watch this right now.

• 16:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  Because that's the best finale in television in history.

• 16:29Speaker 04

  Oh, cool.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  She's Alive.

• 16:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Iconic.

• 16:32Speaker 04

  Oh, good. I'm so glad, thanks.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Okay, so in season two.

• 16:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  When you go back and, was it the finale or the penultimate episode that you go back and forth as the severed version of yourself and kept, record those videos?

• 16:45Speaker 04

  That was in the finale.

• 16:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 16:48Speaker 02

  What was that like to film?

• 16:50Speaker 04

  It was hard, um, because I'm just always afraid of things being shitty, you know? Like, I just want things to be great. And so when it's something like that, it's like, this has such a, such a high bar. Like, in order for this to work, it has to be really good. Because if it's an eighth of an inch off in one direction or the other, it's gonna be corny and/or stupid. It's kind of the whole show is like, the whole, the, the whole like idea and the whole world and the tone is something that is so hyper-specific

• 17:30Speaker 04

  that if you're just a little off in one direction or the other, the whole thing kind of falls apart, right? Which is, which is part of what makes it special and part of what makes it so much fun and so challenging to make is that it's a small, small target. And so that scene is one of those where I just thought like, we really have to get this right. And that all started with the writing, because it's a really hard thing to write, um, properly. Um, and those guys did an incredible job. Um, but shooting it was, uh, Was challenging because I shot all of it in my apartment, you know,

• 18:12Speaker 04

  just with my phone, just so I would have something on set to, to work off of.

• 18:17Speaker 02

  Oh, you like rehearsed it. Got it.

• 18:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. And, and, and I just wanted, needed something to, because I had that camera and so I was talking into a camera. So I needed something on the screen to talk to. So I shot both sides of it in my apartment. There you go.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Very proactive.

• 18:37Speaker 04

  And, and then as we went, we were recording as we were shooting, because I'm talking into a camera. And so we started being able to use that. It was just a matter of like, I, what I, okay. Here's, here's hopefully a succinct way of saying it. It's not boring. The thing that I really wanted is for the novelty of it, the novelty of this being the same actor. I wanted that to wear off as quickly as possible and for it to just be a scene where two people are talking.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 19:06Speaker 04

  Do you know what I mean?

• 19:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know exactly. You wanted it to feel like two completely different people.

• 19:10Speaker 04

  It just, it was important that it's these two different characters that the audience has grown accustomed to seeing and knew exactly where each one was at emotionally and what they needed from the other. And I just wanted the conversation to occur without it being like, oh, look, it's the same guy. Do you know what I mean? Cause that's, that's not that interesting at the end of the day. So we just wanted the story to be interesting and the characters to be, I don't know. It is kind of boring.

• 19:41Speaker 02

  You wanted them to each have their own autonomy.

• 19:43Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. And, and Ben Stiller, who directed the episode, was, was great. And he and Jeff, who, who edited, did a great job too.

• 19:56Speaker 02

  Do you know Trudy?

• 19:57Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, of course. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  We went to college together.

• 20:00Speaker 04

  Really?

• 20:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:01Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  I just filmed her short.

• 20:03Speaker 04

  Is she an actor?

• 20:04Speaker 02

  No, she's a director.

• 20:05Speaker 04

  Oh, good for her.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:06Speaker 04

  That's great. Oh, so she directed it?

• 20:08Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 20:08Speaker 04

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's amazing. But she was like, I remember when we all found out she was working on Severance, we were so excited.

• 20:14Speaker 04

  That's cool. Where did you guys go to school?

• 20:16Speaker 02

  USC.

• 20:16Speaker 04

  You went to USC. Film school?

• 20:18Speaker 02

  No, I went to PR school. She went to film school. She went to film school.

• 20:23Speaker 04

  No wonder it's all working for you. You went to PR school, so you're, you are able to sort of harness people's attention in an interesting way. Is that, is that what you mean?

• 20:35Speaker 02

  But I never really learned anything. Like I cheated on all my tests. Like, we learned about the history of PR. I barely remember that.

• 20:44Speaker 04

  Well, that's not going to help you.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  Exactly. That's my point. So that's why I didn't listen.

• 20:48Speaker 04

  It's more about who you are and how you put it out into the world and how much of yourself you're willing to share.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Was that ever a thing for you? Where you're like, how much of my life do I want to share?

• 20:59Speaker 04

  I don't feel like my success started to actually stick until I was able to really kind of face up to really sharing myself with the camera. Do you know what I mean? Like if you have walls up because you're like protecting yourself or you're afraid of showing too much of yourself or vain or embarrassed or whatever, that's going to show on camera. And it wasn't until I was able to just sort of

• 21:33Speaker 04

  open up and share whatever was happening with the camera. That's when things started landing a little bit. Does that make sense?

• 21:43Speaker 02

  That makes complete sense. Do you feel like there's a role that you like really did that in? Like that you were able to open up and didn't notice that?

• 21:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, Party Down.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  It's a great show. We watched that in reference to, because we were writing, we were writing the pilot for, I'm in development with Hulu now. We like reference Party Down a lot.

• 22:01Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. That's cool.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  So you're aware of like public perception and image and have been?

• 22:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was very, very aware of it. Far, probably too much, but every high school kid is.

• 22:14Speaker 02

  I was, I'm always aware. But that's because my parents were super aware of like,

• 22:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:19Speaker 02

  There's like how, like they were like, who's like, like, you know, where do you think you got that from?

• 22:24Speaker 04

  I mean, I was always very, very into how I was presenting myself and planned my outfits specifically. Even if they looked totally like nothing, it was all very deliberate. Were you like that in high school? Like really?

• 22:43Speaker 02

  Wouldn't plan my outfits, but I, in high school, I was, and today, and in Call It So Forever, I what care what like people think of me and how I'm perceived and like, so yes.

• 22:56Speaker 04

  I mean, I think for me, it started, because in middle school I was heavy and you become, or I became very, very self-conscious. And so when that happened, uh, rather than becoming the like, you know, um, outcast at the back of the classroom, I decided to lean into it. And I like, it was the year Pretty in Pink came out. So I dressed exactly like Ducky. I wore like big blazers and bow tie and, and pegged my pants and, uh, and like wore like, you know, just like dressed exactly like him and kind of tried to like start this whole persona.

• 23:40Speaker 04

  So I could be like the, the sidekick to the hot girl.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  That's how I felt too. That's how I felt too. I was heavier set when I was in like fifth and sixth grade.

• 23:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  And then I lost a bunch of weight at the end of sixth grade. But I think it like shaped who I was.

• 23:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  Cause I wanted to, I just remember being like, I don't know if you felt this way, but I was like, if I'm going to be in this room, like I'm going to make you laugh.

• 24:07Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  And that, that's what will be my gift to this room. It won't be how I look. It won't be what I wear. It'll be my ability to make you laugh at me.

• 24:16Speaker 04

  That's right.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:17Speaker 04

  That's right. And that actually hurts too.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:20Speaker 04

  Right?

• 24:21Speaker 02

  I mean, it, you don't realize how much it hurts until one day you're like, wait, that hurt.

• 24:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. Till you're out of that phase and looking back and like, whoa.

• 24:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Um, I think I'm like in that phase right now still. I'm very self-deprecating.

• 24:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, me too, to a fault. And, and I, and I, my wife is always telling me like, stop saying that it's a fluke that you have a career.

• 24:44Speaker 02

  You say that?

• 24:46Speaker 04

  All the time. All the time.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  Do you say it so much that you end up believing it?

• 24:51Speaker 04

  Well, what I say it about is Step Brothers, because getting that job,

• 25:00Speaker 04

  someone had the job before me and, and had to bail because of schedule. And so they had to cast the role quickly. And so whenever I say that, because I'm asked about that movie all the time. So whenever I say like, well, it's kind of a fluke that I got the role. Naomi, my wife is just like, you have to, like, what are you doing? Like, stop it. Like, what are you? But I feel like it's, I have to. But I think, but I think those years of being heavy, particularly in late elementary and middle school, it was so formative and so kind of, I still feel exactly like that.

• 25:42Speaker 04

  And I feel like that's where, like if that didn't happen to me, I wonder what kind of person I would be if those years didn't happen to me. Cause it was so, uh, it so shaped me.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 25:54Speaker 04

  Cause it's so humiliating, the way people treated me, you know?

• 25:58Speaker 02

  Wow. I did not know that about you.

• 26:01Speaker 04

  I mean, I wasn't like, I mean, you know, it happens to, I mean, it's a part, part of puberty for a lot of kids. It's, you know, I'm sure that's exactly what happened to you.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. And no, I stopped eating lunch.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  You did?

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:15Speaker 04

  Well, I certainly for my twenties was like very like watching what I ate like a hawk. Cause the ultimate nightmare is to go right back there.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  I went back there.

• 26:27Speaker 04

  You did? When?

• 26:28Speaker 02

  Post grad, first year post grad. I started making my own money.

• 26:31Speaker 04

  Were you in graduate school?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  No. So I, it was after I graduated USC. It was a year after.

• 26:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 26:36Speaker 02

  When I started doing like this-ish full-time and I started making my own money. So I could start, I started postmating a lot. Have you ever had Mr. Chow's?

• 26:44Speaker 04

  Yes, I love Mr. Chow's.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  I had Mr. Chow's four times a week for six months.

• 26:50Speaker 04

  I fucking love it so much.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  I put on 25 pounds.

• 26:53Speaker 04

  What, what is it at Mr. Chow's that would?

• 26:56Speaker 02

  The lobster vermicelli noodles.

• 26:57Speaker 04

  Never had it.

• 26:58Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I want them right now. My mouth is like actually solid, anything about them. You've never had the lobster vermicelli noodles?

• 27:03Speaker 04

  No.

• 27:04Speaker 02

  It's Chinese angel hair.

• 27:06Speaker 04

  With lobster?

• 27:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. So it's Chinese food angel hair.

• 27:09Speaker 04

  Okay, I'll order it next time I have Mr. Chow's. Have you had the green prawns?

• 27:14Speaker 02

  Of course I've had the green prawns.

• 27:15Speaker 04

  The green prawns are the, I just had it two weeks ago. When I'm in New, in New York, I always order Mr. Cause you know, you know.

• 27:26Speaker 02

  It's low-key better.

• 27:27Speaker 04

  In New York?

• 27:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:28Speaker 04

  I love, I love it that it's in Tribeca, right on that corner and you can order a takeout. It's the best.

• 27:39Speaker 02

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• 29:08Speaker 02

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• 30:17Speaker 02

  It was in that same breath that I also somehow discovered that Moses and Jesus were not the same person.

• 30:22Speaker 04

  Not the same person. No.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  In my defense, I thought like Jesus was a nickname for Moses.

• 30:30Speaker 04

  That's weird because a nickname usually doesn't take as long to say as, but they're the exact same

• 30:36Speaker 02

  Syllables.

• 30:37Speaker 04

  Number of syllables, yeah.

• 30:38Speaker 02

  Uh huh, yeah. Did you go to college?

• 30:40Speaker 04

  I went to theater school.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  What school did you go to?

• 30:43Speaker 04

  Post-high school, the American Academy of Dramatic Arts.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  So you went to like a proper theater school?

• 30:48Speaker 04

  A proper theater school.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  Like it was like, it was like going to like Juilliard or like not even?

• 30:55Speaker 04

  Maybe less prestigious than, than Juilliard, but same idea. It's like an acting academy where you're like taking dance and voice and speech and singing and acting and you do that for, uh, the academy was two years. And I got straight A's for the first time and I loved it so much, you know? You know, when you go somewhere and you're like, oh my God, all these people are just as into this as I am. Like, I can talk about, you know, movies or actors or whatever with all these people.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  That's how I feel with my best friends. There's no other people that like to talk shit more than my best friends.

• 31:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's the best.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  I can't picture you gossiping.

• 31:40Speaker 04

  You can't picture me gossiping? I'm not a big gossip?

• 31:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're not. You don't see Met.

• 31:45Speaker 04

  No, not that I don't enjoy it, but, um, I feel guilty if, you know, there's too much gossip happening.

• 31:52Speaker 02

  But I could see you at like a dinner party, someone saying something and then you going, well.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  That's what I could see you doing.

• 32:00Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 32:00Speaker 02

  Like, well, and like, and then like laughing to yourself and then someone going, Adam, what?

• 32:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  And you going, no, I, it's no.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  I can't, I can't.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  And then you going, it's just funny that.

• 32:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 32:13Speaker 02

  Like that's the type of gossip.

• 32:14Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  That's how I'd get you.

• 32:16Speaker 04

  Sure, sure. Yeah, you, yeah, that's, I can do that. I just feel like, I feel like if it, if it gets, I just feel so badly if, uh, I've started feeling gross if I, if there's too much, if I'm engaging too much in, uh, in gossip. Not to say it's not fun.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  No, I'm filthy then.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  When's your birthday?

• 32:38Speaker 04

  April 3rd.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  Are you in Aries?

• 32:40Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 32:41Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 32:42Speaker 04

  When's yours?

• 32:43Speaker 02

  October 27th.

• 32:44Speaker 04

  Oh, you're a Libra?

• 32:45Speaker 02

  Scorpio.

• 32:46Speaker 04

  It's what I meant.

• 32:47Speaker 02

  Uh huh. What's Naomi?

• 32:50Speaker 04

  Uh, August 10th.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  Leo.

• 32:52Speaker 04

  Leo.

• 32:53Speaker 02

  So she brings up.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  No, August 10th is, oh yeah, yeah, it is. Cause my son is, uh, uh, October 7th, my daughter is October 17th. And so they're both Libra.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  Oh, but she's right on the cusp of Scorpio.

• 33:07Speaker 04

  That's right. That's right.

• 33:08Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. October babies.

• 33:10Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  How'd you and your wife meet?

• 33:12Speaker 04

  We met at a bar, um, in, uh, in Hollywood called The Cat and the Fiddle. It's not there anymore, but it's, it was this awesome bar. We met in, uh, 1998. I know. I know.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  Wait, oh my God. So you guys have been together like forever?

• 33:36Speaker 04

  28 years. You did the math on that really fast. Oh, you're 20. You were born in 1998.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  I wasn't even born yet.

• 33:47Speaker 04

  Can I answer this? Sorry.

• 33:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:48Speaker 04

  Hey, honey. Yeah, someone, someone's gonna come get you. She is so excited.

• 33:53Speaker 02

  I, I love how, I feel like you're a really good person.

• 33:58Speaker 02

  You've been with your wife.

• 33:59Speaker 04

  You sound shocked.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  Well, no, it's not that I'm shocked. It's just like, you're like, I feel gross if I talk shit. Yeah, you've been with, you really haven't let Hollywood jade, like you've not really jaded by it at all, like.

• 34:11Speaker 04

  Well, I am.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  Good for you. It couldn't be me. It could not be me.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  Well, um.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  So you've been with, you met at The Cat and the Fiddle?

• 34:20Speaker 04

  The Cat and the Fiddle, which was like this bar where there's a whole outdoor area, um, and a big fountain. So you just smoke. Everyone just went, went there because you could smoke. And, um, and yeah, I met her there and I was doing a play. So I, I was like, I want to meet her. And my friend was like, oh, wait, I know her friend. They were both Brits. So we went over to them. They introduced me to her. She's like, nice to meet you. I'm leaving. And she left. But then they came to our play that we were doing. That's what happened. They came to our play we were doing like the next week. And then at the party after the play, we talked. Cause it was closing night. Anyway.

• 35:05Speaker 04

  Speaking of boring, when were you born?

• 35:08Speaker 02

  1999. I was locked in with you.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  You were born a year after I met my wife.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  What was it like working with goats?

• 35:19Speaker 04

  It was interesting for like a little while and then it was just like, these animals are here.

• 35:27Speaker 02

  It was a lot of goats, like a lot of goats.

• 35:31Speaker 04

  They're like eating people's shoelaces and stuff. And so it's like, oh, this is cool. And then after a little while, it's like, all right, we gotta just finish this.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Finish the goats?

• 35:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:41Speaker 02

  Well, not like, you know, finish their storyline.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, not like.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  What was their storyline?

• 35:46Speaker 04

  Cut their heads off. What was their storyline?

• 35:49Speaker 02

  I never understood the goats.

• 35:50Speaker 04

  They're very sweet animals, actually.

• 35:52Speaker 02

  No, I understand goats.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Inseverance.

• 35:57Speaker 04

  They're, they have white fur usually. Um, you're not alone. A lot of people are still asking about the goats and we're all like, we kind of thought we explained it.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  I didn't catch it.

• 36:10Speaker 04

  Yeah. I don't want to explain it because it, it'll, I don't want it to be sort of

• 36:18Speaker 02

  You don't want.

• 36:18Speaker 04

  Dissected.

• 36:19Speaker 02

  Okay. I understand what you're saying.

• 36:21Speaker 04

  Sometimes.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  I got you.

• 36:21Speaker 04

  Sometimes if I say something about the show, it's.

• 36:23Speaker 02

  No, yeah, yeah, yeah. Everyone's like, this is what, this is, yeah, I, I got you.

• 36:26Speaker 04

  My daughter's in the other room.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  Hey, girl.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  Hey, how was school?

• 36:33Speaker 04

  Frankie tried to get out of going to school today.

• 36:37Speaker 02

  I hated school.

• 36:38Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:38Speaker 02

  Do you ever miss driving her to school? Did you ever drive her to school?

• 36:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did. I used to drive her to the bus stop.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  But, and then also school, when she went to school over there, it was very, when they're in like elementary school, it's very sweet to bring them to school.

• 36:54Speaker 02

  What music do you remember playing them?

• 36:56Speaker 04

  In the car, whatever she was wanting to listen to at the time, which was you like, you know, what, Taylor Swift? Is that usually what it was Frankie?

• 37:08Speaker 02

  But you are like, like to me, Taylor Swift, I'm like a big Taylor Swift fan. That is you with you two, no?

• 37:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I'm also a big Taylor Swift fan. I love Taylor Swift.

• 37:19Speaker 02

  What's your favorite Taylor Swift song?

• 37:21Speaker 04

  You know what song of hers that I really love? Well, 1989 is a, is a big album for Frankie and I.

• 37:29Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  Because that was like huge and we were super into it together and had like dances for some of those songs that we came up with together. But then, um, I loved the pandemic records.

• 37:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, those were great.

• 37:49Speaker 04

  Uh, Evermore and-

• 37:51Speaker 02

  Evermore is my favorite.

• 37:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, holy shit.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  Evermore is my favorite. Marjorie's my favorite song on that. Marjorie and Tis the Damn Season.

• 37:58Speaker 04

  I love Invisible String.

• 38:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, talk about a classic.

• 38:05Speaker 04

  Well, you know, the Long Pond, uh-

• 38:07Speaker 02

  The Long Pond Sessions?

• 38:08Speaker 04

  Those are my favorites.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  Oh, really? You love the little Disney plus special?

• 38:13Speaker 04

  I love the Disney plus special, but I also love the, that version of all of those songs.

• 38:19Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. She does exile with Bon Iver.

• 38:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, over Zoom.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:24Speaker 04

  But also she's just playing all of, she and Erin Dresner and, and he's there for that one song. But it's just the two of them playing the entire album.

• 38:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  With that, there's no production, nothing. They're just playing it live and you know, that's all available just in,

• 38:44Speaker 04

  I love that ver- I love the kind of fully baked version of the album as well, but I love those raw kind of-

• 38:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 38:51Speaker 04

  Uh, live versions of those songs too.

• 38:53Speaker 02

  I love, uh, when a live version is like released on Spotify, like Bon Iver just released a whole record of, uh, live tracks.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 39:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:02Speaker 04

  He did?

• 39:03Speaker 02

  It's amazing, amazing.

• 39:05Speaker 04

  Of mostly what, which album?

• 39:07Speaker 02

  I think it was a lot of 22 to, 22 to a million, or I forget if that's the album called.

• 39:13Speaker 04

  That last album?

• 39:14Speaker 02

  No, Sable, I wish.

• 39:15Speaker 04

  That last album was real good.

• 39:18Speaker 02

  That last album changed my life.

• 39:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:20Speaker 02

  That, that little tune change in short story-

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 39:24Speaker 02

  Where the whole album switched and lifts upwards, unbelievable, but he's not touring it.

• 39:30Speaker 04

  Oh, oh, really?

• 39:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. He's like, I don't need to.

• 39:32Speaker 04

  You know what, speaking of live, like raw versions is Lady Gaga did, um, Howard Stern, like 15 years ago or something, or whenever, um, what album was, uh, Edge of Glory on?

• 39:51Speaker 02

  Born This Way.

• 39:51Speaker 04

  Born This Way. When Born This Way came out, which was like a while ago, she went on Howard Stern and played Edge of Glory, just her and a piano.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  Oh, she's so talented.

• 40:01Speaker 04

  Have you heard that version? It like will make you cry just listening to her sing, because that song is about, believe her grandfather?

• 40:12Speaker 02

  It is about her grandfather.

• 40:13Speaker 04

  That song is, I mean, you know, the song is terrific, but when it's down to its kind of raw elements like that, it's so powerful. Um, whenever she goes and, and plays kind of just her, I think it's incredible. Anyway.

• 40:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I love, uh, like a stripped back acoustic-

• 40:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:33Speaker 02

  Version of a song. They, I mean, we used to, or there used to be, what was it? MTV, uh-

• 40:38Speaker 04

  Unplugged.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  Unplugged.

• 40:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  They kind of have versions of that today. They have like this new show called like Colors, but I don't know if that equates to it.

• 40:46Speaker 04

  There's Tiny Desk, sort of like that?

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Tiny Desk is great. BBC Live Lounge is my favorite because the artists will cover other songs.

• 40:55Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 40:56Speaker 02

  So like, I don't know if you know who Audrey Hobart is, but Malcolm Todd, her younger brother, who's also a singer, just covered one of her songs. Taylor Swift, oh my God, did she do, um, she did September, right? Did she not do September?

• 41:12Speaker 04

  I like that song.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  Yes, she did. Twenty first night. Yeah, that was at the Live Lounge. I'm almost, I would put money on it actually.

• 41:18Speaker 04

  I thought the new album was awesome and I love, uh, Lover too.

• 41:22Speaker 02

  Um, The Archer is my favorite song of all time.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. And, um,

• 41:28Speaker 04

  Reputation too.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  You're a Swiftie.

• 41:34Speaker 04

  Well, I know, uh, yeah, yeah. I mean, I don't know.

• 41:37Speaker 02

  No, you just bar for bar at her albums, like you're a Swiftie.

• 41:41Speaker 04

  They're great records, man.

• 41:43Speaker 02

  Did you see My Shrine? Oh, you haven't seen My Shrine?

• 41:44Speaker 04

  No.

• 41:45Speaker 02

  I have a shrine in the house.

• 41:46Speaker 04

  Have you discovered Waxahachie? Are you into her?

• 41:50Speaker 02

  What?

• 41:51Speaker 04

  Were you about to say Gazuntite?

• 41:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, Waxahachie.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, Waxahachie. You have to listen to Waxahachie. She's the best.

• 41:58Speaker 02

  You know who I think is, oh, well, do you listen to country at all?

• 42:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  Casey? Are you a Casey?

• 42:04Speaker 04

  Musgraves?

• 42:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:05Speaker 04

  I don't know. I don't know her. I mean, I think she's great, but I don't know her, I don't know her that well.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  You're not ready. No, you're actually not ready.

• 42:14Speaker 04

  I'm not ready.

• 42:15Speaker 02

  Cause her album, Golden Hour from 2018.

• 42:18Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. That's the like big breakout. That's the big breakout.

• 42:21Speaker 02

  No, the big breakout was Same Trailer, Different Park and that really broke-

• 42:25Speaker 04

  But wait, she just, uh, put out a record.

• 42:29Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 42:30Speaker 04

  How was that one?

• 42:31Speaker 02

  Really good. It's called Middle of Nowhere. Um, people describe it as like brat for country.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  See, if you like Casey Musgraves, you're gonna love Waxahachie.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  Okay, I'll listen to Waxahachie.

• 42:45Speaker 04

  Listen, start with her new record.

• 42:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 42:49Speaker 04

  Called Tiger's Blood.

• 42:50Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 42:50Speaker 04

  And just go backwards from there.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  Did like, what's the genre? Fokie, bedroom pop, country?

• 42:56Speaker 04

  Country rock slash, I don't know. She is sort of, she kind of encompasses a lot. She does, but Tiger's Blood has a lot of like really good, um, it's like a real guitar record, but not like shredding solos. It's just, they're really like, um, lived in guitar rock, some of it. And then some of it is just, it's just really, really, it feels like an album that's been there for a hundred years. But, and all the hooks and melodies all feel like something that's always been playing,

• 43:40Speaker 04

  but it's all brand new. It's really, really, I think one of the great records of the last while.

• 43:48Speaker 02

  Oh, wow. I'll give it a listen.

• 43:49Speaker 04

  Came out like a year, two years ago.

• 43:50Speaker 02

  Waxahachie.

• 43:51Speaker 04

  And I'm still like-

• 43:52Speaker 02

  Going back to it.

• 43:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. It's great.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'll, wait, I'm so excited to listen to it.

• 43:57Speaker 04

  Yeah. Tell me what you think if you listen to it.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  You have to, I will, but you have to listen to-

• 44:01Speaker 04

  Casey Musgraves?

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Golden Hour.

• 44:03Speaker 04

  Okay. The 2018 album.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  It is brilliant.

• 44:07Speaker 04

  And why?

• 44:08Speaker 02

  She wrote the entire album about her ex-husband.

• 44:12Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 44:13Speaker 02

  And it is like, the entire album is like front to back, uh, like a love letter. It feels like a love letter to him. And just like she is very into, uh, uh, attachment styles and she used to be, I think she would tell you she was in avoidant attachment.

• 44:32Speaker 04

  In a what attachment?

• 44:34Speaker 02

  Okay. So the album starts with a song called Slow Burn and it's kind of like she's rapping, but it's country.

• 44:39Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:40Speaker 02

  Slow Burn is amazing. Space Cowboy is the best.

• 44:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  Rainbow is beautiful.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Butterflies.

• 44:47Speaker 04

  You know, it's hard, cause I, when I was trying to describe the Waxahachie album to you, it's hard to, to talk about music and why something is great. You, I always end up feeling lame when I'm trying to talk, like describe something to someone.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  I'm like, how do I describe how good this is without, cause then you want to sing it. You're like, I'm not about to sing it.

• 45:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can you sing? Do you know how to sing?

• 45:10Speaker 02

  No, do you?

• 45:10Speaker 04

  No.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  She has some slammer lines though.

• 45:13Speaker 04

  Okay, cool.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. Have you been listening to Ella Langley? Chose in Texas?

• 45:20Speaker 02

  Banger.

• 45:21Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 45:21Speaker 02

  You guys listen to Chose in Texas?

• 45:23Speaker 04

  What?

• 45:24Speaker 02

  Oh, you like? I told you a kid.

• 45:28Speaker 02

  I told you, I'm a candy guy.

• 45:29Speaker 04

  I, I, I heard. So you're going to like a candy convention?

• 45:33Speaker 02

  Sweets and snacks.

• 45:33Speaker 04

  When you're there, it's gonna be like a whole event, right?

• 45:36Speaker 02

  It's gonna be just like, we're gonna be, we have sweatshirts made that say-

• 45:39Speaker 04

  Is that what all those sweatshirts are out there?

• 45:40Speaker 02

  No, but those are for you.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  All of them?

• 45:43Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 45:43Speaker 04

  Thanks.

• 45:44Speaker 02

  You could take all of them.

• 45:45Speaker 04

  What if I did?

• 45:47Speaker 02

  I would say Adam Scott took all my hoodies. Do you want to do the tell me what's wrongs?

• 45:51Speaker 04

  Oh, great.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  And I feel like you give good advice.

• 45:54Speaker 04

  We'll see.

• 45:56Speaker 02

  We will.

• 45:57Speaker 04

  I mean, I am a dad. It's part of my job.

• 46:01Speaker 02

  What's, do you love giving advice as a father?

• 46:04Speaker 04

  I mean, it depends. It depends, uh, what the issue is, I guess.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  What's the most mad you've ever been at your kids?

• 46:12Speaker 04

  I remember when Frankie was like 11, she was like 11 and we discovered that she had more than one secret uh, social media. She wasn't allowed to have social media.

• 46:24Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 46:25Speaker 04

  And she had like an entire network of social media. Yeah.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  Girl boss.

• 46:31Speaker 04

  Had it going.

• 46:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:32Speaker 04

  And it wasn't Instagram yet. It was-

• 46:36Speaker 02

  Facebook?

• 46:37Speaker 04

  Musically.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I feel old. I never even had a Musically.

• 46:42Speaker 04

  Really?

• 46:42Speaker 02

  It was never my thing.

• 46:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 46:44Speaker 02

  Do you know what Musically is?

• 46:45Speaker 04

  I think I remember what it was. Yeah.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  Videos of like, like-

• 46:51Speaker 04

  Yes, but yeah, and then everyone's like lip syncing to things.

• 46:54Speaker 02

  There's a very famous now video of, uh, baby Ariel and she was-

• 47:00Speaker 04

  Who's that?

• 47:00Speaker 02

  Uh, she was a very famous Musically star and she had, she, uh, did, uh, Musically dance to Fire When the Strobe Hits You.

• 47:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  And she was on the news and she would go, you go.

• 47:15Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  So that's what she was.

• 47:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's the sort of thing.

• 47:18Speaker 02

  Do you remember Baby Ariel?

• 47:21Speaker 02

  Your daughter is fucking funny.

• 47:26Speaker 04

  Were you like 11 when that happened Frankie?

• 47:30Speaker 04

  Okay, great.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, well, I, you know, the reason people call me Jake Shane is because when I first made my Facebook, when I was in 7th grade, my mom wouldn't let me use my last name, which is Roscoe.

• 47:40Speaker 04

  Roscoe, Jake Roscoe?

• 47:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, were you about to ask if I'm Jewish? Because the answer is yes.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  Very much so. And my middle name is Shane after in, my dad would tell me he was after some like alcoholic baseball player. I don't really know. And so my mom made me use Jake Shane and it just kind of stuck.

• 47:59Speaker 04

  I, Jake Shane, I've always, the, the, the name is very sticky because it sounds like the name of either professional baseball player or like an ex-football player who's now an action movie star. Like, um.

• 48:18Speaker 02

  Vince Vaughn.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, was Vince Vaughn a football player? I know.

• 48:24Speaker 02

  I just made it up.

• 48:24Speaker 04

  No, no, no, but it's, it's like two syllables total.

• 48:28Speaker 02

  Well, it's two first names.

• 48:30Speaker 04

  Yes, like, you know, I guess my name's sort of two first names, but Jake Shane feels more rugged than my name. Do you know what I mean?

• 48:39Speaker 02

  Adam Scott, Jake Shane.

• 48:40Speaker 04

  Jake Shane.

• 48:42Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 48:43Speaker 04

  It's Jake Shane. He's gonna kick your fucking ass. You know?

• 48:49Speaker 02

  He's unstoppable, that Jake Shane.

• 48:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:52Speaker 02

  Have you heard about Jake Shane?

• 48:53Speaker 04

  Dude, Jake Shane is like, you need to watch out, man.

• 48:58Speaker 02

  I heard he runs like a tight ship over there.

• 49:01Speaker 04

  He runs a tight ship and he just, he's, he's got, he's got so much cocaine.

• 49:09Speaker 02

  That's weird that you heard that about him. You heard that about him?

• 49:11Speaker 04

  I, see, I heard that about him. Maybe it's not true.

• 49:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, I actually, I, I heard that too, weirdly, but I don't think it's true. I don't think it's true.

• 49:21Speaker 04

  Anyway, he will kick your ass.

• 49:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, Jake Shane's awesome. And he has like this podcast.

• 49:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 49:26Speaker 02

  Have you ever been on it?

• 49:28Speaker 04

  And he makes candy.

• 49:30Speaker 02

  Well, he doesn't make candy.

• 49:31Speaker 04

  He makes candy in his like guest house.

• 49:33Speaker 02

  Would you ever think of going on his podcast, Jake Shane's?

• 49:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe. You know, I used, I used to make candy. I, I worked at a candy shop at, in an amusement park and I made, um, saltwater taffy.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  Wow, that sounds fun, honestly. I heard you also worked at Johnny Rockets?

• 49:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, for one day.

• 49:54Speaker 02

  And then that you found out they made you sing?

• 49:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I left.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  That's okay.

• 49:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, or no, I didn't leave because I'm not rude, but I just didn't come back the next day. Which is rude.

• 50:05Speaker 02

  So you left?

• 50:06Speaker 04

  I left, yeah.

• 50:07Speaker 02

  But, you know, you rewrote that narrative beautifully just now.

• 50:09Speaker 04

  Thank you.

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• 51:25Speaker 04

  So what is this? It's, uh, we're helping, uh, all right.

• 51:28Speaker 02

  We're helping the world.

• 51:29Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 51:30Speaker 02

  I'm a type A girl in a world of type Bs. All my friends are constantly running late, very unreliable and disorganized to the point it starts affecting my life and my busy schedule. I want them to change so badly, but I know that it, that's impossible to ask of someone. I love them too, but it's very upsetting and they do not care at all.

• 51:48Speaker 04

  I'm really sorry, but you may have to read that again. I just spaced out.

• 51:52Speaker 02

  You want to read it?

• 51:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:53Speaker 02

  And by the way, that happens to every single guest. Frankie, you know.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Frankie, you need to respond.

• 52:01Speaker 04

  Frankie's, she's. Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 52:06Speaker 04

  Oh, my God.

• 52:08Speaker 02

  Oh my God, not your chic ass glasses.

• 52:11Speaker 04

  Okay, this is more of just a brag about being organized.

• 52:16Speaker 02

  I kind of see, I agree.

• 52:18Speaker 04

  That's all that is.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  It's like, well, your friends aren't, like, my best friend Cassidy is type B and I'm type A.

• 52:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:25Speaker 02

  It's not my problem that she loses her passport.

• 52:27Speaker 04

  I'm better than all my friends and I'm not sure how to tell them.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like, a lot of my friends are type B. A lot of my friends. And it, it doesn't affect me. I'll just scream.

• 52:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're fine.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  Like, if I'm, or you just say like, I'm leaving. Like, if you're late to somewhere, like, I'm leaving, you can stay.

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:46Speaker 04

  You're fine, they're fine. It doesn't matter.

• 52:50Speaker 04

  That's part of like.

• 52:50Speaker 02

  You have great hair.

• 52:51Speaker 04

  Oh, thanks. That's part of getting a little older as you realize that none of that stuff really matters that much.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  So funny you bring that up because my frontal lobe just developed.

• 53:01Speaker 04

  Oh, how's it feel?

• 53:03Speaker 02

  Fucking awesome.

• 53:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, it looks good. It looks like it's all together.

• 53:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's my third eye.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Oh, good.

• 53:08Speaker 02

  I feel it. I, every time, like, I caught, I was in, I was freaking out today about this, like, I wanted to, I, like, I, just like, upset, like, I was always a collector as a kid, like, I always, like, collected, like, Pokemon cards or whatever. And so I was obsessing over this thing that I wanted to buy today. And then I was like, wait, oh my God, I'm obsessing over it because I have OCD. And I like connected the dots, but I knew I always had OCD, but I never like caught it in live action. And I caught it. I was like, gotcha.

• 53:36Speaker 04

  Oh, good for you.

• 53:37Speaker 02

  Thank you. I, and.

• 53:38Speaker 04

  Wait, how old are you when the frontal lobe finally like takes shape?

• 53:42Speaker 02

  I think 30.

• 53:43Speaker 04

  Are you 30?

• 53:47Speaker 02

  You did not.

• 53:48Speaker 04

  What?

• 53:49Speaker 02

  30, Adam.

• 53:49Speaker 04

  Are you younger than that? You just said my frontal lobe can't, like, developed today, like, so I'm. You did lead him there. What happened?

• 54:02Speaker 02

  I'm 26.

• 54:03Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. Well. At your, at your age, whether it be 26 to like 32, there's no insulting any, like, thinking you're anywhere from 25 to 32 is all a compliment. All of it. Because it's all the same age, essentially.

• 54:24Speaker 02

  You feel that way?

• 54:25Speaker 04

  Well, I feel that way now because I'm 53.

• 54:28Speaker 02

  It is crazy. I, you look really young.

• 54:32Speaker 04

  Thanks.

• 54:34Speaker 02

  Good for you. I hope I, I dress like you.

• 54:38Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  You're welcome. Me and my boyfriend have been together since high school, so we took a break because we thought it'd be healthy now that we're in our mid 20s. We recently got back to, okay, so

• 54:49Speaker 02

  the boyfriend, so they were together in high school and then they took a break. We recently got back together and he told me about all the people he hooked up with within that four months or so. I guess though, these were the rules, but I didn't even like make out with anyone. I'm having a really hard time getting over this. Oh, you can't move on.

• 55:04Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, she's.

• 55:06Speaker 02

  It's over.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, you think it's over?

• 55:09Speaker 02

  It's over.

• 55:10Speaker 04

  Because she'll never get over it.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:12Speaker 04

  Well, it's not his fault if they were on.

• 55:15Speaker 02

  She knows that.

• 55:15Speaker 04

  If they were, you know, she knows that.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, she says.

• 55:18Speaker 04

  But it's never gonna.

• 55:20Speaker 02

  She's a little bitter about it. She's a little bitter about it.

• 55:22Speaker 04

  Unless they take another four months and she goes and does her thing, she'll never get over it.

• 55:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, but then at that point, it's like forced, you know?

• 55:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  It's like, I'm only doing this because the guy, my ex-boyfriend did it.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  I think you were just, you've grown apart. Have you ever seen the movie Someone Great?

• 55:39Speaker 04

  Nope.

• 55:40Speaker 02

  You should watch that. Have you ever seen the movie How to be Single?

• 55:43Speaker 04

  The.

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Dakota Johnson?

• 55:46Speaker 04

  No, I haven't seen that.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  Neither have I, but you should watch that.

• 55:48Speaker 04

  Okay, okay. Yeah, I'll get right on that.

• 55:52Speaker 02

  What's your favorite movie of all time?

• 55:54Speaker 04

  Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom. Have you ever seen that?

• 56:00Speaker 04

  Have you ever seen Sex, Lies and Videotape? You should watch that.

• 56:05Speaker 02

  What's that about?

• 56:07Speaker 04

  It's about four people trying to figure out their lives. I'm trying to think of how to say what this is about. You should watch that movie. It's from nineteen eighty-nine. It's, I know, that's like reaching back. I know. It's, it's like scary how, how old that is.

• 56:31Speaker 02

  Chill came over me.

• 56:33Speaker 04

  Oh, my god.

• 56:34Speaker 02

  I have a hard time with old movies.

• 56:36Speaker 04

  But it's not, it's not, it's not gonna feel old. I, I just watched it like a year ago and it felt like it could have been made yesterday.

• 56:45Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 56:45Speaker 04

  Nineteen eighty-nine, it's not like watching a movie from the thirties where everyone's like, ah, yeah.

• 56:51Speaker 02

  I mean, I would never watch a movie from the thirties.

• 56:53Speaker 04

  Okay. So, watch a movie from the late eighties. Like, you've seen Goodfellas, right?

• 57:00Speaker 02

  Best movie ever.

• 57:02Speaker 04

  That's, that was shot in nineteen eighty-nine.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  You're lying.

• 57:05Speaker 04

  No. It came out in nineteen ninety.

• 57:08Speaker 02

  I just watched Casino for the first time, too.

• 57:09Speaker 04

  That was really good.

• 57:11Speaker 02

  Then it took me four times.

• 57:12Speaker 04

  It's really a harsher movie than Goodfellas.

• 57:17Speaker 02

  But you know what? You know what I love? The ending where he goes, and that's about it.

• 57:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. I know.

• 57:22Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 57:22Speaker 04

  Did you see The Irishman?

• 57:25Speaker 02

  I, uh, uh. I tried.

• 57:27Speaker 04

  Dude, The Irishman is-

• 57:29Speaker 02

  I've heard it was amazing.

• 57:30Speaker 04

  I think it's his best movie.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  De Niro?

• 57:35Speaker 04

  Scorsese.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  But De Niro's in it.

• 57:37Speaker 04

  Yes, it might be. I think it's, I've seen it so many times. I think it might be my favorite of the, those two.

• 57:46Speaker 02

  Okay, I'll watch The Irishman. Goodfellas, I watched when I-

• 57:48Speaker 04

  It's so good. What, say that again?

• 57:51Speaker 02

  I watched Goodfellas when I had Covid. And I was like, oh, my god, I'm obsessed with this.

• 57:55Speaker 04

  Have you seen Cape Fear?

• 57:56Speaker 02

  No.

• 57:57Speaker 04

  Dude, you have to watch-

• 57:58Speaker 02

  Is this another mafia movie? I love the mafia.

• 57:59Speaker 04

  No.

• 58:00Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 58:01Speaker 04

  No, but it's those two together.

• 58:03Speaker 02

  Do you watch Real Housewives?

• 58:05Speaker 04

  I got, you know what I got really into that I feel like I'm the only one? Is The New New York.

• 58:12Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  I thought you were about to hit me with Rhode Island? And I was about to like go up into a lab.

• 58:18Speaker 04

  I haven't been there yet.

• 58:18Speaker 02

  You like The New New York?

• 58:20Speaker 04

  No one likes it, right?

• 58:21Speaker 02

  It's horrendous.

• 58:23Speaker 04

  But are they done now?

• 58:24Speaker 02

  Yes, because it's so bad.

• 58:26Speaker 04

  They were complete strangers and it was obvious?

• 58:29Speaker 02

  And they, it was, and they literally, do you not remember? They like pulled a prank on the audience. You remember this?

• 58:35Speaker 04

  Doing what?

• 58:36Speaker 02

  They like pulled a prank. They like made up a fake storyline and then like broke the fourth wall. Do you remember this? It was, it was like so big in the Bravo world. And everyone was so angry about it.

• 58:48Speaker 04

  I just remember all of them accusing what's-her-name of doing something.

• 58:53Speaker 02

  Oh, that was horrible.

• 58:54Speaker 04

  Horrible.

• 58:55Speaker 02

  That was horrible.

• 58:56Speaker 04

  No one likes it. I even was on Andy Cohen's show and I was like, hey, The, The New New York. I, I'm really enjoying this season. And he was like, yeah, so, even he couldn't like get behind it.

• 59:09Speaker 02

  Rhode Island? Get into it.

• 59:11Speaker 04

  That's the new one, right?

• 59:12Speaker 02

  Oh, it is. Exceptional television.

• 59:16Speaker 04

  All right. Do you watch Survivor?

• 59:18Speaker 02

  So, I started this season and then once Mike White got voted off, I gave up.

• 59:22Speaker 04

  That was very like soon.

• 59:24Speaker 02

  So, after like three or four episodes, I was out. But I was never a Survivor guy. I was like an American Idol guy. I was a Bad Girls Club guy. I was an America's Next Top Model guy.

• 59:34Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 59:34Speaker 02

  Like, I liked the girly-

• 59:37Speaker 04

  I'm going to the finale on Wednesday.

• 59:38Speaker 02

  Oh, are you a big Survivor guy?

• 59:40Speaker 04

  I'm a, I, yes, I love Survivor.

• 59:42Speaker 02

  Have you ever met Jeff, Jeff Probst?

• 59:44Speaker 04

  I know Jeff Probst, yes.

• 59:45Speaker 02

  Are you guys buddies?

• 59:46Speaker 04

  Yes. He's a rad person.

• 59:49Speaker 02

  That sounds fun.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  An old friend is visiting from out of town and is crashing on my couch. We had a fun weekend, but apparently he had, apparently. A ferret. We had a fun weekend, but apparently he has no return flight. I work on weekdays and I just don't wanna host while stressed, et cetera. I also don't wanna kick him out. So, how do I really hint at the fact he's overstaying his welcome? You have to say you must leave.

• 1:00:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can't hint. Hinting only causes resentment between both of you, don't you think?

• 1:00:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:23Speaker 04

  Like, for you because you have to hint and that's exhausting. And for him, because he's gonna be like, is she hinting to make me leave?

• 1:00:30Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:30Speaker 04

  What an asshole.

• 1:00:31Speaker 02

  Just tell me straight up.

• 1:00:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:33Speaker 02

  Be for real.

• 1:00:34Speaker 04

  But also, at the same time, this is all very like twenties-coded, I think. Like, at a particular point, you just have to be like, like, if you're gonna come stay with a friend, you should not stay for more than two nights unless you are very upfront. Like, I need to stay with you for two weeks or whatever. Like, you don't just come and start staying with someone.

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  I've been housing my friends for a week now.

• 1:00:59Speaker 04

  How's that going?

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Well, the house is a bit of a mess, but you know, it, it's real, it's been nice because

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  it makes, it feels like college again.

• 1:01:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:09Speaker 02

  I come home, they're there.

• 1:01:10Speaker 04

  Depends who it is and what your relationship is.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, but we-

• 1:01:13Speaker 04

  Sounds like this is fine.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  I realized that guy friendships aren't really like that.

• 1:01:17Speaker 04

  I was never great with, when I, when I, I had roommates and it was never my fa- As soon as I could, I lived by myself.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:01:28Speaker 04

  You know?

• 1:01:28Speaker 02

  I can't live alone. I lived alone the first two years of college, not per me.

• 1:01:32Speaker 04

  Freshman year of college, you lived by yourself?

• 1:01:35Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm, in a, a single dorm.

• 1:01:37Speaker 04

  A single dorm?

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  And it was-

• 1:01:40Speaker 04

  Lonely?

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  Disgusting.

• 1:01:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  I washed my, I washed my sheets twice.

• 1:01:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Speaker 02

  Over the entire year.

• 1:01:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:48Speaker 02

  Twice. I didn't know how to do it. And then I couldn't, I'm so short, I couldn't put it back on. So, I was like, I can't, I can't do this bullshit.

• 1:01:55Speaker 04

  Washing sheets until you're like in your early thirties, it's just impossible. Like, how do you do this?

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 1:02:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:03Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 1:02:04Speaker 04

  I do now, if, if there are sheets on the bed longer than like, you know,

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  five days or something, it grosses me out.

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  But then I started living with a friend my junior and senior year. And then I always lived with people ever since then. And now I live here with friends.

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, it's great.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:20Speaker 04

  To each their own.

• 1:02:22Speaker 02

  So, you should tell your friend to leave. And if you need help, you should watch Real Housewives. Because they are very confrontational. Did you ever watch Jersey Shore?

• 1:02:30Speaker 04

  No, I never, I mean, I was, I, when it was a huge thing, I was-

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  Didn't you parody it?

• 1:02:36Speaker 04

  Jersey Shore?

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  Am I like making shit up?

• 1:02:38Speaker 04

  No, I was on The Bachelor parody, the-

• 1:02:41Speaker 02

  Yes! Yes, you were!

• 1:02:43Speaker 04

  Ken Marino and-

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  Yes!

• 1:02:46Speaker 04

  Eric Ouyama and-

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  How a memory unlocked for me.

• 1:02:50Speaker 04

  Who else kind of wrote that and did that?

• 1:02:53Speaker 02

  I love Jersey Shore.

• 1:02:54Speaker 04

  What was it called? The, The Bachelor, um-

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  I know what you're talking about.

• 1:02:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:00Speaker 02

  Do you know what a situationship is?

• 1:03:03Speaker 04

  I believe so. It's just like a, a, you're just hooking up. It's not really a relationship.

• 1:03:09Speaker 02

  Okay, period. My two situationships have found out about each other recently, obsessed. And now they're both asking-

• 1:03:20Speaker 04

  What? Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait.

• 1:03:22Speaker 02

  It gets a little dirty.

• 1:03:23Speaker 04

  Let's-

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  You don't care?

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  Why? Cause Frankie?

• 1:03:27Speaker 05

  I don't care!

• 1:03:30Speaker 04

  She doesn't care.

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  Okay. Here we go, Adam.

• 1:03:33Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  My two situationships have found out about each other recently and now they're both asking me for a three-way. My dream date.

• 1:03:43Speaker 02

  I've had suspicions in the past that they both might have previously hooked up with other guys. But now I have a theory that they just wanna hook up with each other. Should I do it for the plot or am I inviting trouble? Obviously do it for the plot. Everything I do is for a story.

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  Uh-huh.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  If I was seeing two different men and they were like, let's all hang out.

• 1:04:04Speaker 02

  Hello? Date and time. I cancel work.

• 1:04:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  Do it. That sounds amazing. And then if it works out poorly, just be so depressed for a week.

• 1:04:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:14Speaker 02

  And like be like, I'm depressed for the week.

• 1:04:16Speaker 04

  But then you have the experience.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. Unfortunately. So, I prescribed doing it.

• 1:04:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:25Speaker 04

  Why not?

• 1:04:26Speaker 02

  Why not? My roommates keep the temperature at seventy-six degrees. Oh, my god, oh, my god. I, I literally, my entire body just rumbled. And it is so hot every night. If I try to make it colder, they get mad. I open my windows and don't sleep under my covers.

• 1:04:41Speaker 04

  Why the fuck would you do that?

• 1:04:42Speaker 02

  That sounds like hell. But nothing helps. It is so fucking hot. I live with four girls and they all three agree on it, so I'm outnumbered.

• 1:04:49Speaker 04

  Oh, seventy-six degrees?

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  What do you sleep at? Cold sleeper?

• 1:04:52Speaker 04

  If, if I had my way, I would be at max sixty-eight degrees.

• 1:05:00Speaker 02

  I knew we'd get along.

• 1:05:01Speaker 04

  I love it freezing cold.

• 1:05:03Speaker 02

  Me too. I, I sixty-two.

• 1:05:05Speaker 04

  Sixty-two?

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  Yep. With a fan by my side.

• 1:05:08Speaker 04

  I would love it so much.

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  Sixty-two, fan by my side and on an eight-sleep on a negative ten.

• 1:05:12Speaker 04

  It depends, like, if it's summertime, sixty-eight doesn't feel cool enough. I like-

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  Sixteen is never-

• 1:05:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:19Speaker 02

  Cool enough. In New York, in the winter, I open my windows.

• 1:05:23Speaker 04

  Oh, I love it. I love, I hate New York in the winter when it's like too hot inside everywhere, because radiators are going.

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  Disgusting.

• 1:05:30Speaker 04

  I like having some breeze in there. I love it freezing.

• 1:05:33Speaker 02

  Free, I don't know why. Why are we like that?

• 1:05:35Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:05:36Speaker 02

  What do you think? Maybe we're anxious. Are you anxious?

• 1:05:38Speaker 04

  Yeah. Everyone else in my house likes a little warmer.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  I can't, I can't do it. When I, when I walk into a house, I'm going to my friend's house after this. It's so hot. I already know I'm gonna be so hot. I'm stressed, so stressed out about it.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  Especially if it's stuffy and there's no air. That's even worse.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  And you like choking on your breath. Disgusting.

• 1:05:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:56Speaker 02

  That's why I can barely do a sauna.

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  But lately, I've been obsessed with sauna. Because I was told it helps you lose water weight, which I didn't know existed.

• 1:06:05Speaker 04

  Well, of course it does.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  I did not know that. I thought you just peed it out.

• 1:06:07Speaker 04

  Do you have a sauna here?

• 1:06:09Speaker 02

  I do.

• 1:06:10Speaker 04

  Yeah. Do you use it all the time?

• 1:06:11Speaker 02

  Recently have been.

• 1:06:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. Is it the, one of those circle ones?

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:06:17Speaker 04

  Those ones that are like a circle?

• 1:06:20Speaker 02

  No, but I want one now.

• 1:06:21Speaker 05

  Yeah. I think you're talking about the same thing.

• 1:06:23Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. It is, it is-

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  Mine is a rectangle, so.

• 1:06:26Speaker 05

  Well, it's like a little pod.

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  But it's not a circle.

• 1:06:30Speaker 05

  Is it not?

• 1:06:30Speaker 02

  It's a rectangle, so. I met this cute guy at the gym and we-

• 1:06:35Speaker 04

  Those are different shapes.

• 1:06:38Speaker 02

  I met this cute guy at the gym and we ended up hitting it off. We've been on two dates so far and each one has been amazing. I was showing my friend his Insta and she told me she actually talked to him on Hinge and he ghosted her. She feels weird about me seeing him, which is understandable, but I finally have a good thing going here. Am I a bad friend for seeing him behind her back? Yes, you need to tell her, but she's a bad friend for ruining that for you.

• 1:07:00Speaker 04

  I got lost during that one.

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  You got this. What do you think?

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  Again, who cares? Like, just do whatever you want. Right?

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  I see, I like that. And that's it.

• 1:07:17Speaker 04

  Those were pretty good. I like all the octopi in here.

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  I feel like we really got close throughout this entire experience. I know, and by the way, I know you're a bad liar, so I know you, I know you mean it.

• 1:07:29Speaker 04

  I do. How do you know I'm a bad liar?

• 1:07:32Speaker 02

  I can tell.

• 1:07:33Speaker 04

  Oh, alright.

• 1:07:34Speaker 02

  I feel like you don't like to gossip, so you don't like to lie.

• 1:07:37Speaker 04

  I don't love it, no.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  You really don't like to gossip? Ever? You don't want to sit down once and just rip it?

• 1:07:47Speaker 04

  Sure. But you know, um, I do always end up feeling a little skeezy afterwards.

• 1:07:59Speaker 02

  Frankie, do you like to gossip? Yeah! I die for her. She's awesome.

• 1:08:04Speaker 04

  She's the best.

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  Well, Adam, what did we learn today?

• 1:08:08Speaker 04

  I mean, I learned a lot.

• 1:08:09Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:08:10Speaker 04

  A lot.

• 1:08:11Speaker 02

  I learned that there are good people left in the world, and I'm sitting with one of them.

• 1:08:16Speaker 04

  I think I learned that this is my new favorite podcast.

• 1:08:20Speaker 02

  No, you didn't!

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  I think I did.

• 1:08:22Speaker 02

  Wait, you really have that much fun?

• 1:08:24Speaker 04

  This was great.

• 1:08:25Speaker 02

  I could tell, at one point, I was like, wait, he's having fun.

• 1:08:27Speaker 04

  Oh, totally.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  I was like, wait, he's having fun.

• 1:08:29Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  Well, you know I have a meeting with your lovely wife coming up soon.

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, you do?

• 1:08:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:35Speaker 04

  Are you coming to our office?

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  I hope so, I think so.

• 1:08:38Speaker 04

  Great.

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:08:38Speaker 04

  Awesome.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  So we get to hang out again?

• 1:08:40Speaker 04

  Yeah. Love it.

• 1:08:41Speaker 02

  This was like the pre-meeting meeting.

• 1:08:42Speaker 04

  Love it. Bye pussies.

• 1:08:59Speaker 06

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