315. Why Cutting Processed Food Beats Keto and Carnivore - Daymond & Heather John

Daymond John and Heather John sit down with Gary Brecka to talk about the daily habits behind how they feel. Gary says it isn’t keto or carnivore that extends life, it’s cutting out processed food. They also get into blood sugar markers like glucose, A1C and insulin, why fasting hunger comes in 20 minute waves, the COMT worrier gene, matcha, and Heather’s parasite cleanse story. Don’t guess, test. Click here to join Gary’s VIP Community: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Daymond John Website: https://bit.ly/4sfKAtn YouTube: https://bit.ly/4zGoH8P Instagram: https://bit.ly/4ejY8y4 Facebook: https://bit.ly/4zJa5FL TikTok: https://bit.ly/4sBrfTH X: https://bit.ly/4jSdyxl LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4jzKYka Connect with Heather John Instagram: https://bit.ly/47Ad0Vh Facebook: https://bit.ly/4yASCyn Thank you to our partners A-GAME: “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: http://bit.ly/4kek1ij AION: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD AIRES: “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/4a3Duze BAJA GOLD: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa BODYHEALTH: “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsV BREW: THE ULTIMATE COFFEE: https://bit.ly/4elHM82 COLD LIFE: THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp CYMBIOTIKA: “BRECKACYM30” FOR 30% OFF: https://bit.ly/4tjyluP GENETIC METHYLATION TEST (UK ONLY): https://bit.ly/48QJJrk GENETIC TEST (USA ONLY): https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 GOPUFF: GET YOUR FAVORITE SNACK!: https://bit.ly/4obIFDC H2TABS: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg HEALF: 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S PEPTUAL: “TUH10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4mKxgcn SNOOZE: LET’S GET TO SLEEP!: https://bit.ly/4pt1T6V WHOOP: JOIN & GET 1 FREE MONTH!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW Watch the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction: How they met Gary 01:11 - 3 PM crashes and first oxygen session 04:27 - Low grade inflammation, big five 05:20 - Night itching and Heather's parasite cleanse 08:37 - Biological dentistry and cavitation surgery 10:29 - Everyday symptoms and detox basics 12:34 - The executive physical and Heather's push 15:53 - Fasting and 20 minute hunger waves 19:22 - The COMT worrier gene and menopause 22:32 - Supporting a partner's health journey 23:32 - Immune fatigue and processed food 26:38 - Toxin test and everyday plastics 29:29 - Blood sugar and the war on fat 33:17 - Oat milk, matcha and COMT 38:46 - Longevity centers and community 44:28 - CEO Access and corporate wellness 46:26 - What it means to be an Ultimate Human Disclaimer: This podcast is for informational purposes only and does not provide medical advice. It is not intended for diagnosing or treating any health condition. Always consult a licensed healthcare professional before making health or wellness decisions. 09:19: Tooth-to-organ meridian charts are not a validated diagnostic tool. This is one person's experience. Numbness, chest or shoulder pain should be evaluated by a physician. 15:53: Multi-day water fasting is not safe for everyone, including people who are pregnant or breastfeeding, have diabetes or take blood-sugar or blood-pressure medication, or have a history of eating disorders. Check with your physician before fasting longer than 24 hours. 22:47: Blood-filtration therapies such as INUSpheresis are not FDA-approved for detoxification or longevity. Right-to-try laws vary by state and generally apply to people with serious illness. Talk to a physician before pursuing any experimental treatment. 29:56: Diabetes and poor blood-sugar control raise the risk of dementia and other conditions, but they are just one of many risk factors. Gary Brecka is the owner of Ultimate Human, LLC which operates The Ultimate Human podcast and promotes certain third-party products used by Gary Brecka in his personal health and wellness protocols and daily life and for which Ultimate Human LLC and / or Gary Brecka directly or indirectly holds an economic interest or receives compensation. Accordingly, statements made by Gary Brecka and others (including on The Ultimate Human podcast) may be considered promotional in nature. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

• 0:00Speaker 00

  I'm not one to tell people about their health, but they just think there's nothing they can solve. And then when they see me go through all these machines now, they're calling me crazy. I always say the 95% of things I do have nothing to do with technology. From fasting to no chlorine in the water to the sleep grounding. None of that has anything to do with a fancy red light bed. And people can do everyday, simple things that you have started us down this path with, that they can improve their lives immediately.

• 0:22Speaker 01

  It was not, honestly, until I met you that just things kind of turned around for me. Honestly, you know, I can't say that enough.

• 0:28Speaker 02

  A lot of it is just accessing what we already have. Stool, urine, sweat, liver detox. Those are the four things. And they can make major differences instantly in how you feel.

• 0:38Speaker 03

  You don't need all the machines, but to know that you can clean the water better, like filter it out, take your kid outside, put him in the grass, put him in the sand. There's so many easy systems and ways to do it for free.

• 0:51Speaker 00

  I want to be the face of everyday humans to say, you can do it. If I can do it, you can do it. And the most important thing is in your life is your family, your faith.

• 1:00Speaker 02

  When did your health journey sort of unite?

• 1:02Speaker 00

  We met you, what, five years ago? We started seeing the results.

• 1:18Speaker 02

  So before the podcast, Sage and I were talking about, how did we actually meet? I remember you came first.

• 1:24Speaker 01

  It was me.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:25Speaker 02

  You came up to our place in the Porsche tower.

• 1:27Speaker 01

  That is right. I was moving north beach. We were moving north beach and I asked a friend, I was like, I need a functional wellness doctor, somebody that I can work with in that space. And she said, well, Gary Brecka. And I'm like, okay, perfect.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  Okay, perfect.

• 1:40Speaker 01

  I didn't know, well, I trusted her and I didn't know anything about you. But we were coming from, living in New York City full time.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  Wait, what? You didn't know anything about me?

• 1:48Speaker 03

  You were famous.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  No. It was like the middle of everything, all of your transitions from everything in Naples to, you know what I mean?

• 1:59Speaker 02

  To Miami.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  Around that time. So I was like, okay, but let me tell you this real quick. You changed my life.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 2:06Speaker 01

  And I say that, I've always said that, but you were the first person that opened my eyes. You introduced me to a lot of different, you know, supplements and the machines. And you really got us started in the biohacking world, like 100%.

• 2:19Speaker 03

  You guys are all in it now.

• 2:20Speaker 01

  But because, no, because of Gary, you know, I didn't have that 3P, that 3, that 3pm crash. Like my eyes literally for years used to just close on me. You remember all that? I would just literally in the car, my eyes were like this. Yeah, but anyway, so I give that to you.

• 2:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, we did the hormone balance. We did the genetic testing, got your supplements for deficiency. And then there was a virus that you had been dealing with for a while.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  So we went right after that. I don't even know if they had properly tested for it. And you were amazing. And then your, your husband came up, remember that?

• 2:52Speaker 03

  I just, I remember thinking, holy cow, Daymond John lives in our building? That's pretty cool. And then you were in our living room one day and Gary wasn't there yet. And I was just trying to be polite and get you water, but you were just on your phone. And you were just kind of zoned in on your phone and a little grumpy.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  She's like, I don't think he likes me.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  Sounds like Damon.

• 3:11Speaker 03

  And I was like, it's nice to meet you, you know? I didn't want to like fangirl too much, but it was so funny because then you kind of had this like, I don't know why I'm here, you know, this guy.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  I think you actually might have said that.

• 3:24Speaker 03

  You probably did. My wife made me come, you know, and which is usually how it happens.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  The common theme.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  You know, that's wives buy all the things. Like if you own a product, go after the wives. But yeah, right?

• 3:39Speaker 00

  You know, I probably was just coming off of a crazy flight. I probably was, I was drinking at the time, so I was probably hungover.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  Hungover, yeah.

• 3:44Speaker 00

  Uh, and then, yeah, she's having me do all this stuff. And, and we had already taken down, we already went down a little bit of that path of IVs here and then. I was like, okay, I'll come and.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  Do another IV in some dude's limber room.

• 3:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, and then I like, yeah, it was cool. And then he took me upstairs and he stood over me while he made me lay on the bed. And I was like.

• 4:09Speaker 00

  No, this is not the time he got naked in front of me in the, in, in the closet. This is, this is, this is kind of like, you know, he just kind of warmed me up. And so he laid, he stood over me and he put some oxygen on me. I left that day going, that was different.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  I, I did, that, that is actually very true. I laid him on a PMF mat, gave him, gave him some oxygen, got him on the bike, made him breathe like 900 liters of that, that oxygen. And he was like, man, I have to go.

• 4:35Speaker 00

  And then, you know, sooner or later, I, I lost a good amount of weight. And it created this habit of stop drinking. I saw how her reports are coming back. And then when I got on the phone with you going over, you know, being the scientist looking at my report. And then she started putting the, the pills to get the, the supplements and everything. And my, my, my life started to improve and my brain fog, then I was all in.

• 4:57Speaker 03

  I love it. Yeah. And it was, it was fast, like, and it usually is when somebody hasn't been steered in the right direction yet. It, and then he's so good at like looking at something and seeing something that no other doctors really recognized. And, you know, he gets a lot of shit for not being a doctor, but I think it almost gives him a better advantage of looking at it from a different lens.

• 5:20Speaker 02

  Well, I just don't have the background.

• 5:21Speaker 03

  You're not trying to prescribe something because you can't.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  Pharmaceuticals and synthetics and chemicals that just have the human physiology. But, but you both, and us for that matter, have the typical scenario that the vast majority of humanity has is there's some kind of underlying low-grade fight going on in the immune system. And there's low-grade inflammation, might be a parasite, could be a virus, heavy metal. Uh, I always say the big five are mold, mycotoxins, heavy metal, parasite, virus. And I think that's when our journey really took the, the turn. And you guys are taking it to the extreme. He walked into my functional, um, biological dentist's office and said, hey, doc, what, what does it mean if you have itchy butt?

• 6:08Speaker 03

  Well, no, actually.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  He did say that. The doc is off camera and I will bring him on if I have to.

• 6:16Speaker 00

  I was watching Dr. Gabrielle Lyons and she was saying, talking about parasites. And then she was like, and she said something like, you know, and then during the full moon, they're really active, but then you got itchy anus. And then I was like, oh, itchy anus, what is that itchy anus? I haven't happened to have itchy anus, but I'm looking forward to it because I mean, the parasites are coming out of me.

• 6:36Speaker 00

  You know what I mean? So if I don't have itchy anus, I'm doing something wrong.

• 6:38Speaker 02

  If you do have itchy anus during a full moon, actual medical diagnosis, you probably do have a parasite or itchy anus at night.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  Okay, so I laughed because this is when I knew that Heather and I had become really good friends. So usually the four of us go out to dinner together and hang out, but we went and had lunch together. Can I tell this?

• 6:56Speaker 01

  Yes, go ahead.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Can I tell this? We can always cut it out.

• 7:00Speaker 03

  We go out to lunch together and I feel like we're close, but like I didn't know we were that close, but we got close right away. And she was like, we're having iced tea and a nice salad. And she's like, does your butt itch at night?

• 7:13Speaker 01

  Sage, can I say you were the first person, you were the first person I said that to? Literally.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  And that happens a lot.

• 7:19Speaker 02

  That wasn't your icebreaker with most girlfriends?

• 7:24Speaker 00

  If you would have said to me that my butt itched at night, I'd be like, well, I got dry skin, not my butthole. My butthole itched that night. And whatever happened, what's your sign? Are you into candles?

• 7:34Speaker 02

  This is not how I saw this podcast.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  Because people do come to me and I laugh about how like the world that we're in, talking about health stuff. You, strangers on the street will be like, I have had diarrhea all week. What do I do?

• 7:47Speaker 02

  Is your husband Gary Brecka?

• 7:48Speaker 01

  I was just here for a nice salad. I didn't know that I'm going to talk about diarrhea.

• 7:52Speaker 02

  Lives up on the phone and starts showing Sage.

• 7:54Speaker 00

  But all seriousness, when I, when I first saw Dr. Gabrielle Lyons talk about it, I thought that was rare.

• 8:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:00Speaker 00

  Right?

• 8:01Speaker 03

  I think it's more common.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  Have an itchy anus?

• 8:02Speaker 00

  I think now, yeah, I think now people need to know that that's, that's a, you know, you would think I wiped too hard or something else is going on. I had, I got a venereal disease, something else. When, would that be the first thing to check into is?

• 8:16Speaker 01

  Parasites. I mean, yeah, can I even say, I dealt with it for two years. I went to a GI physician because I was just, I was so embarrassed. I didn't want to talk to anyone about it. I'm like, oh my God.

• 8:26Speaker 03

  But how does your GI not know to tell you that?

• 8:29Speaker 01

  They were doing all kinds of tests. I don't even want to get too graphic, but I was like, I had to go through a lot for them to tell me nothing. And really it was going to Dr. Gandhi and jump starting the whole situation.

• 8:39Speaker 02

  Who you turned us on to.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  From you guys, because I saw you guys doing that biological dentistry surgery. I'm like, what is that? Me and Damon want to get involved. And then we went to him and started talking to him and, you know, fast forward, fast forward. Now we're doing this parasite cleansing. Guess what? I had pinworms. That's what the itchy.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  You had pinworm?

• 8:56Speaker 01

  It was pinworms. I saw it in the toilet from doing these cleanses. And I'm like, now I know exactly what it was.

• 9:04Speaker 00

  I thought you had that hot little walk just because that was the way you walk. Because you had an itchy anus.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  I would have been so embarrassed to talk about this. Now everyone's gonna be like, hey, so how's your itchy anus? Now I'm just like branding myself the itchy anus girl.

• 9:17Speaker 03

  There's more to Heather than an itchy butt.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Wait, itchy anus no more. Itchy anus no more.

• 9:22Speaker 03

  So what did you end up doing? Because I am super curious.

• 9:25Speaker 01

  All right. So now we're from Dr. Gandhi. He referred us to.

• 9:27Speaker 00

  So first of all, first of all, we went to Dr. Gandhi. We saw what you went through, right?

• 9:32Speaker 03

  Yep. Had capitation surgery. That was a tough one.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 9:35Speaker 02

  You, Steve Harvey, Stephen A. Smith have all been very public about that. I sent all three of you guys up there. All three had very similar results.

• 9:42Speaker 00

  He was absolutely amazing. He, he, he obviously is a dentist, but has led us down the path of so many other things. And it reinforces when I talk to you and this person, that person, that person. And then I remember when I went to the surgery, he said, prior to that, looking at my teeth, he said, hey, you, do you got pains in your rotator cuff? So I was like, I, I do. He never said he would fix them, nothing like that. But after the surgery, they were gone.

• 10:06Speaker 03

  Pain in my ear.

• 10:07Speaker 00

  Now, that happened to me too.

• 10:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:08Speaker 00

  I thought they were going to go, I thought they were going for the drugs and this, but then I've been up and down on plane, they're gone.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:15Speaker 01

  It's so connected in the meridian lines.

• 10:17Speaker 02

  I chipped a tooth and like most people, I don't like to go to the dentist. I chipped a tooth, called Dr. Gandhi. He said, take a picture of it. And then he texts me back and asked me if I had left anterior shoulder pain, which I did. If I had left lower lobe lung pain, which I would when I, when I would do HIIT's cardio, and if my left toe ever went numb. That's so specific. Cause I didn't even tell her. They had this weird thing where my toe would go numb or it, I would tap it. Like in the middle of talking, I would just start tapping it because it would feel numb. I thought it was like circulation. My shoes are too tight, socks too tight, something. Or I would sometimes take my shoe off and just itch my toe. And I was like, that was so specific. And he was like, yeah, it's your 19th tooth meridian. He sent me the meridian chart. And he's like, you had a root canal in that

• 11:02Speaker 02

  location. I'm like, yes, I did. And he's like, we gotta, we gotta pull the tooth, clean it out and, and cap it. And 48 hours after that surgery, all of it was gone.

• 11:14Speaker 00

  That's crazy. And then.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  Now I'm a believer.

• 11:16Speaker 00

  And then we led to Dr. You, which is another process after that, which is the parasitic cleanse.

• 11:22Speaker 03

  Gotcha. Where is he located?

• 11:24Speaker 00

  St. Louis.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  And I, and I think just so many people are listening to this podcast right now. They're walking around with strange symptoms that they can live with, right? It's not, I say it all the time, doesn't drive you to the ER, doesn't get you to the urgent care, itchy anus, brain fog, water retention, waking up more exhausted than you went to bed, fatigue, this afternoon crashes. And they're just sort of things that you chalk up to being

• 11:49Speaker 03

  Old.

• 11:49Speaker 02

  Normal. Yeah. Everybody's dealing with them.

• 11:53Speaker 00

  And that's why that, once I started following you and I went down this rabbit hole, a lot of people, and you know, I don't, I'm not one to tell people about their health, but it, they just think there's nothing they can solve.

• 12:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 00

  Right? And then when they see me go through all these machines, now they're calling me crazy, Mr. Hocus Pocus, this and that. And by the way, I always say the 95% of things I do have nothing to do with technology from, you know, meaning, meaning machines, from fasting to no chlorine in the water to the sleep, which I'm lacking on, which is, which is building muscle, you know, explosive exercises, grounding. None of that has anything to do with a fancy red light bed, right? But I try to tell people that, you know, after following you and doing this, people see me on the show for the last 18 years, cut up people in 10 minutes and get right down to the bottom of things and tell them when they're full of shit. And this is real. And people can do everyday, simple

• 12:46Speaker 00

  things that you have, you started us down this path with, that they can improve their lives immediately.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I appreciate that. You know, a lot of it is just accessing what we already have. Stool, urine, sweat, liver detox. Those are the four things. And none of those are very expensive. And they can make major differences instantly in how you feel. And, and I, and I applaud you for like being vulnerable. And I know it's funny about the itchy butt, but you know, there's so many people listening to this, they're not gonna, haven't even told their spouse.

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 13:17Speaker 02

  Right? And, and it's probably because they have mold, mycotoxin, parasite, virus, or heavy metal.

• 13:23Speaker 00

  I personally believe that Heather saved my life. When she came into my life, she was that pestering wife, pestering woman saying, you gotta take care of it. Because as CEOs and busy people, all of us, men and women, there's so much stuff coming at you and you just don't know where, I mean, talking about business, you don't know where to start. She's the one who made me go get an executive physical when I didn't know what an executive physical was. I found out I had stage two cancer in my thyroid, right? She made me get that surgery. She made me start going to you.

• 13:52Speaker 02

  Right?

• 13:52Speaker 00

  2017, made me start going to you, and then made me start going to all the other, the Dr. Gandys. I was like, yeah, sounds great. Surgery. Under how long? Open up your jaw and your face. You're probably uncomfortable for three months. Put that, put that right on the calendar right now.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Except 2017.

• 14:10Speaker 02

  I speak for a living, right?

• 14:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I speak for a living, right? And she was like, no, no, no, we are gonna put it on the calendar, right? The Ibu, doing Ibu, all these things. So again, STEM, exosomes, it's really her.

• 14:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:23Speaker 00

  You know, end of the day.

• 14:24Speaker 02

  She was, she was, the first day that we met, super engaged. And, and also very knowledgeable, I will say. You were very astute on what was, most of what was available out there.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  Well, I started working with, in the functional medicine area since I was like 18. So my parents were really like privy to, you know, holistic medicine. So I saw someone in Philadelphia for years. And then when I moved to New York City.

• 14:49Speaker 00

  So Dr. Morrison.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I had to find somebody in New York City. And, you know, I always did acupuncture and Chinese herbs. And like, I've been doing IVs for like 17, 18 years. I mean, honestly, my veins are so shot now. I had to take off all summer because literally I have so much scar tissue. It's been years of it, you know? So I, I've been around it. I just felt like, to be perfectly honest, and I'm not just saying this because I'm sitting in front of you. I've told you before with no cameras.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  It was not honestly, until I met you, that I'm, just things kind of turned around for me. And I really like, honestly, I mean, I can't say that enough.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  You know, it really.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  No, that makes a lot.

• 15:25Speaker 00

  I think that's why you have such a big community, because you say it in layman's terms, right? You are not intimidating the way you say it. You can get really down the rabbit hole with it.

• 15:34Speaker 03

  You can get super sciency.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  And I think that's why you have such a big community.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. Sage is telling me all the time, like, you get, you get too sciency.

• 15:40Speaker 03

  No, but you're really good at putting it into English. So you'll say the sciency part for the, for the haters that are like, he doesn't know what he's talking about. And then put it into English for the people who are like, okay, now I know what he's talking, you know, I don't know what he is talking about, but you're putting it into English.

• 15:54Speaker 00

  You put it so great of English that honestly, I went to a million, we have access to thank God, the best people in the world. But I didn't start publicly talking about it until he would break it down. And now you have like a Gandhi and other people around me to break it down.

• 16:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 16:07Speaker 00

  Because what I like to be is I like to say that, you know, me, I'm the perfect example of biohacking. I love sugar and carbs. I have a really bad schedule, but I make time for it. I'm a couple of pounds over than I should be. So I'm not gonna be the, I mean, Gary looks great. And then his brain is great. I'm gonna be like, no, this is stuff you take, by the way, like fasting, when I tell people about fasting, I want people to start getting into it. It's such a, it's too intimidating in the past. And I think that's what makes it so great about what you do.

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, thank you.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it's great when you did the, your, the community of the three day fast.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:40Speaker 03

  So it's like, everybody's kind of doing it together.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  75,000 people.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  Which is crazy.

• 16:45Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 16:45Speaker 02

  Which is awesome. Three day water fasting, right? You actually save money because you're not buying food. So, so it's actually, you know, it's a good entry into the biohacking world because it's safe for the majority of people. And it's tough. And you actually feel the difference at the end of three days. And you, and you feel like you've really accomplished something.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  You know what I found was the hardest thing about the fast is that, you know, and I failed a bunch of times at it when I was drinking, right? I find that I just get bored and I want to grab something.

• 17:17Speaker 02

  It's just behavior. Yeah.

• 17:18Speaker 00

  Right? Because I go, well, I don't want to, I don't, I'm not trying to be on my computer or whatever. But I'm gonna sit down.

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 17:26Speaker 00

  It's, it's, it's.

• 17:27Speaker 02

  You just want to grab something.

• 17:28Speaker 00

  Psychologically, it's, it's, it's difficult.

• 17:30Speaker 02

  Here's the thing that I tell everybody about fasting. And this, this has reframed how people, their, their success in fasting. So hunger comes in waves. It comes in 20 minute waves every three hours. So if you fast for a day, 24 hours, you don't need to be strong for 24 hours. You need to be strong for 20 minutes.

• 17:49Speaker 00

  When it happens.

• 17:49Speaker 02

  Every three hours. And if you reframe it, you're like, okay, I can, so when that hunger pang starts to hit, you're like, okay, I gotta ride this out for 20 minutes. Get up, take a walk, do some breath work, have a glass of water, put some mineral salt in it, stretch, do whatever, do something to distract yourself, and it's gone.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  And you're so right. And then, and then when you keep going, those pains get less.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. The, the initial ones, day one, and the early part of day two are the toughest part. If you get through that, you can do a three day water fast.

• 18:18Speaker 00

  You fast, because I fast 36 hours every week.

• 18:20Speaker 02

  Every week?

• 18:21Speaker 00

  Every week or like every 10 days. I do some sardines at the end, hopefully. And then I get into some avocado, you know, towards the end. So I can, obviously.

• 18:30Speaker 02

  Slow run with avocado, sardines.

• 18:32Speaker 00

  And then I try the intermittent fast, two to, two to nine every night.

• 18:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're really, you're really good with it. I've only been able to do, the most I've done is, it sounds pitiful, 22 hours, but average 17 hours. And I just kind of, I hate to say, it's just not my strong point. I don't do well with it. I get crushing migraine headaches.

• 18:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:52Speaker 01

  And my whole day is ruined. So I've really struggled with being successful with it.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  And that's.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  But don't, don't give it too much credit because then I fall off the wagon.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  I haven't met, I haven't passed the golden corral that I cannot stop at in my life. Yes, that's right. You want to have the wagon down the hill.

• 19:11Speaker 00

  That's a parasite cleanse. Oh, you pay for it.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  So much bacteria.

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Every time you leave.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  And then can you imagine all the people that touch the, um, you know, the scoops in the buffet line? And then what if you got bread and now you're touching the bread after you touched like the handle?

• 19:26Speaker 02

  See, those are the things that we don't think about.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  You don't think about all that.

• 19:30Speaker 03

  We're the same.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Like she just walked in tonight and, and the first five minutes of our discussion was how clean her shoes were. Cause her shoes were on my house.

• 19:37Speaker 00

  She makes me wipe, she makes me wipe the, the rollers off of my suitcase when I come in the house.

• 19:43Speaker 03

  Oh, actually, I haven't done that yet, but I might start.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  That's bad. Cause now that's gonna be.

• 19:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, now that's my thing.

• 19:49Speaker 01

  I leave a Lysol canister at the front door. I know it's so bad, the cleaning products, but clean it. Um, and then when I came in your place, I went into the bathroom and I cleaned the bottom of my shoes. I've done it twice since I've been here, by the way, and I just got them back from the shoe place though. They are, thank you.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  She's got that comte gene, social focus on how things can go wrong. Like last night I made a major mistake.

• 20:12Speaker 00

  Really?

• 20:12Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, that's.

• 20:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what it is. It's comte.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  She was in the hyperbaric and I knocked on the door and I talked on the phone and I was like, oh, hey baby. You know, um, happy to see you're in the hyperbaric, just in case there's a fire blanket next to you. She goes, why would I need a fire blanket? I'm like, you won't, but just in case you do.

• 20:27Speaker 03

  Why put that in my head?

• 20:27Speaker 02

  She's like, now you have it in my head. Is it gonna catch on fire?

• 20:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:32Speaker 00

  So she has the same thing?

• 20:33Speaker 01

  Right. I have an extensisher next to the hyperbaric.

• 20:36Speaker 02

  Same gene.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  Oh, the same gene. Okay.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  It's called the warrior gene.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. The warrior gene.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  So if you, if you have one.

• 20:41Speaker 00

  Warrior, like warrior.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  No. Warrior and warrior, the same gene. If it's green, you're a warrior, meaning like you, you have no fear. You thrive in high stress environments. Uh, you can, you can take an unmitigating amount of stress and that it just, you don't carry it.

• 21:01Speaker 03

  Doesn't fit.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  With you, like your day can go to shit and you can still sleep at night. The warrior gene, high catecholamines is I lay down and go to sleep at night. My mind wakes up and I start ruminating on everything that I shouldn't be thinking about. Cause there's nothing I can do anything about, but I lay there, I carry every scenario to worst case scenario. Knock on the door, it's gotta be a murderer, right? It can't be a self-loved from Amazon.

• 21:26Speaker 00

  Is that what you have?

• 21:28Speaker 02

  Somebody there could kill the whole family, right?

• 21:30Speaker 03

  I try to hide it as best as I can, but not, I'm not super great at that.

• 21:34Speaker 02

  She has that one.

• 21:35Speaker 00

  Menopause has amplified this for us.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  She has that gene. Yeah. Menopause is taking this.

• 21:39Speaker 03

  To a different level.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  To a different level.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. The other morning I woke up at three o'clock in the morning. She was having a fit beside the bed. I'm dead asleep and I got the eye mask on. Lift the eye mask up and I'll look over there. She's like, these covers, these covers are so fricking heavy. Why do they make covers this heavy? These pillows are like so fluffy. You're like, it's like gonna break my neck. And she's throwing the pillows on the floor. She's pulling the covers off.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  At three in the morning.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  These are three o'clock in the morning. I'm like, these are the same covers.

• 22:07Speaker 03

  I know.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  We've slept under for two years.

• 22:08Speaker 03

  Just it.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  And those are the exact same pillows.

• 22:10Speaker 03

  It's also a sensitivity thing.

• 22:12Speaker 02

  Sensory thing.

• 22:12Speaker 00

  Is there something, something that you can do about it?

• 22:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, hormones. She got.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  I never do that. I mean, I give her a lot of grace and patience, but.

• 22:24Speaker 03

  He does.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  And, and I would recommend every husband do that, right? You don't wanna come up against the, the menopause rage.

• 22:31Speaker 03

  And don't give that look.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, don't give that one.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  You know better.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  Don't wow me. I do that. I go wow. Don't you wow me.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  Don't wow me.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  Ooh.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Me either.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  I do not like a wow.

• 22:43Speaker 02

  Wow me, don't anything.

• 22:46Speaker 00

  Nah, I was like.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  You're pretty good.

• 22:48Speaker 00

  I tried to be pretty good until some time ago.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  No, he does not have that me. He does not have that me. But you've gotten better. You've gotten better at dealing with my stuff.

• 22:56Speaker 02

  That one can make it through.

• 22:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. You'd be like, you say you're OCD, you're being OCD. Why can't I tell you you're OCD? Can you stop being OCD?

• 23:04Speaker 01

  Well, the truth is, we actually didn't get into my Dutch hormone test yet, so I don't know.

• 23:07Speaker 02

  That's the savior for women.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  I need help with that. I took it, but I, I, I need help with it.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  Okay, we'll interpret it after the podcast.

• 23:14Speaker 00

  What would you say, cause you're both really supportive of what we do is, and I know, what would you say that a, a significant other should do? To get their person, you know, down this path?

• 23:28Speaker 02

  First be the person.

• 23:30Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:30Speaker 02

  Right? I mean, be that person. Those don't be the nagger and not be the person. Like she's legitimately on this journey, right? She reads it.

• 23:40Speaker 00

  So be the person.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  She lives it. She does it. And I think that, you know, leading by example, even in a relationship. Like there's nothing I would recommend she do, other than female hormone therapy that I wouldn't do. So for our anniversary, I got her enuresphoresis, blood filtration.

• 23:57Speaker 03

  Have you guys done that yet?

• 23:58Speaker 01

  We have not yet. We want to.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  That's one in Switzerland, right?

• 24:00Speaker 02

  That's one in Switzerland. Soon it will be coming to the US. There are a few states that have right to try.

• 24:04Speaker 00

  Like Wyoming or somewhere?

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, Wyoming and what's the other state with right to try? New Jersey?

• 24:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're looking for it.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  New Hampshire.

• 24:10Speaker 03

  Oh, New Hampshire. That's right.

• 24:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. And New Hampshire and Montana, they're, they're expanding the right to try. So that people can go and get some of these therapies because otherwise you're going to Tijuana, you're going to Switzerland, or you're going to Costa Rica. You're, you're having to go to these third world countries or halfway around the world to get something that 29 other countries already allow. Very low risk. I think it's very hard to hurt somebody by taking toxicity out of their body. We call it subtractive medicine. You know, it's back to the old adage that the first thing we do when a fish gets sick is we clean the tank. We didn't mess with the fish. We just cleaned the environment. But we don't consider the environment with like, not this environment, this environment. Like what is going on in here? What, what is your immune system bathing in on a, on a daily basis?

• 24:57Speaker 02

  Because the truth is, if, if you look at where there's a, an agreement, like a coalition of opinions in the longevity space. I think the vast majority of leading minds in the space would agree on the theory of immunofatigue. Like what is our, what is our greatest risk to longevity? Why are some people leaving this planet earlier than their, their times do? It's because of a slow progressive overwhelming of the immune system. So the immune system doesn't just protect us, right? It doesn't just fight pathogens, does that? It fights bacteria and viruses and parasites and all of those things, but it also polices us. It looks at all of the cells and says, you're living too long. I need to turn you into energy.

• 25:42Speaker 02

  That's what happens when you fast. That's why fasting is so good for you. Cellular senescence, like cells that have been there too long, can no longer perform their function. The immune system just gets rid of them. So the orthophagy, are they dying on time? And, and there are things like, you know, cancer at stage zero is what's called a circulating tumor cell, a CTC. And all cancer, regardless of its form or its origin, was at one time a healthy cell. So it was a healthy cell that shifted its metabolism. A healthy immune system sees that shift and kills that new cell. Right? So one of the best things we can do is support and augment and strengthen our God given immune system.

• 26:22Speaker 02

  Why is aging itself, age, chronological age, a biomarker for disease? Because the immune system's been in the game so long, it just gets run down. And things that normally would not slip by a 20 year old, slip by in a 60 year old. Right? So this, this process of immunofatigue and what are great ways to strengthen the immune system? All the things that you're doing, sunlight, grounding, breath work, whole food diet, just get rid of processed food. Forget being dogmatic about your dieting, you know, it's not carnivore that extends life. It's not keto that extends life. It's not paleo that extends life. What extends life is no processed food.

• 26:59Speaker 03

  I think the other two thing too, as we got to talking about is how we're tired of keeping up with all the things we feel like we have to keep up with. Hair and nails and diet, you know, we're both like going gray and I can't wait till the day I just say, sorry, fuck it.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  Sorry, fuck it.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  She was just talking about it to me.

• 27:16Speaker 03

  You'll be my friend that says, why don't we do it together and then we'll just go gray together.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  Pretty much. He suggested it before and I'm like, I'm not, I'm not there yet. I'm not there yet, but there was about three months after I did the surgery with Dr. Gandhi where I was like, you know what? He just cleaned out all, you know, these cavitations. I'm like, I'm not, I took my gel nails off. I didn't dye my hair for like three months and I did all these things and I took my, um, total toxin, the, the vibrant test. And I've done that same test for five years in a row. It was my best test ever. I couldn't even believe it. Instead of like everything in the red, and I mean this, it's always been really bad. There was only like three or four markers.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it was all that small, it was just removing all these small things from our lives, you know, the, the coated pans, the this, the that.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  The plastics.

• 28:00Speaker 00

  Drinking straight out of marine grade, you know, uh, you know, water containers and copper and glass and all that stuff like that.

• 28:07Speaker 03

  It really makes you like, when you're sitting there laying with giant needles in your arms and, and attach this crazy machine for the enuresphoresis. And then you see the microplastics coming out of you and inflammation and everything. And I'm like, and then somebody handles, hands you a warm plastic bottle to drink out of.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 28:26Speaker 01

  You start ticking.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  You're hyper conscious.

• 28:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, it's everywhere though. It's hard to get away from it.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  And I actually have to give Damon credit even for you kind of pushing me because sometimes I, you know, as much as I'm into everything, there's things that he's better at than me. And suggesting like change our floss, our, our mouthwash, our toothpaste. Like there's so many little things that add up.

• 28:46Speaker 00

  That's why it's so much better when you're a team.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I think even just all of those little things over, even just the past year have contributed to the, the toxin.

• 28:55Speaker 00

  More importantly, our daughter is now coming up the right way.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  That's so great.

• 28:59Speaker 01

  She's doing a parasite cleanse now.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Oh, is she really?

• 29:01Speaker 01

  Our 10 year old is on a parasite cleanse right now.

• 29:04Speaker 02

  That's actually.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, she saw Dr. You, she's doing it.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Our nieces, I, I actually had our nieces on the podcast. I gotta bring them back.

• 29:09Speaker 03

  I know. They're so cute.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  It actually did really well. It was the cutest podcast. And they just talked about, you know, what their friends eat at school versus what they eat at school. And, and these are healthy, vibrant, tan, sun soaked, young.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  You know, vibrant children.

• 29:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're awesome.

• 29:26Speaker 02

  Spend most of their time playing outside and, and they just eat a clean whole food diet and then they love it and they would prefer fruit to candies. And they pass on the snacks at school. And I think that's the, the big benefit of our generation, sort of leaving this for the next generation. And, and the wellness trend is being led by Gen Z. Eighteen to twenty eight year olds, they're the biggest spenders. They've had the biggest shift in behavior. You see alcohol consumption down thirty four percent, run clubs up four hundred percent. Four hundred percent.

• 29:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're turning Vegas into a wellness place almost, right?

• 29:57Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  They still got the music going and the daytime party, but it's all yoga.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Sober party.

• 30:03Speaker 00

  You know, I got a question. So you know, obviously we talked about CO access and I manage CEOs, but if a CEO or you've helped like me, Dana Y, Stephen A. Smith, Steve Harvey, so many people running this up. If they don't have, and I'm not sure if they do, they don't have a significant other to help push them. What do you think they should do? Because I, I like to tell CEO, your performance athletes, because if you don't hit your numbers, the board looks at you. If you don't have this and that, you can't have brain fog, you have to perform. But unlike athletes who take care of their bodies, usually taking care of your body, there was getting numb at the bar late at night because you can't take it anymore.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, you should really think about, um, running your body like, like you would run a company. You have an income statement, a balance sheet and a P and L. And that tells you the health of the organization. And there's things on the income statement, balance sheet and P and L that forecast where this company is going. And based on that, you can either attract investment or not attract investment. And you're either succeeding or you're not succeeding. And the better you are at looking at those numbers, the more you, you're capable of finding the holes, over, overspending on marketing or marketing's not having the same return. When you look at the human body, it's no different. If you get a data set and you actually start to manage the data, right? What are my inflammatory markers? And this, you don't have to become a functional medicine doctor overnight. There's a couple of things on your panel you want to be familiar with.

• 31:24Speaker 02

  Your hormone balance, your blood sugar control. You should understand what your blood sugar is. What is glucose? What's hemoglobin A1C? What's insulin? Because if you just manage that, just your blood sugar, that's the first domino to fall in such a consequential series of conditions, I can't even tell you. If you look at how many Alzheimer's, dementia, early onset cognitive decline, inflammation, Parkinson's, all of these have seeds and roots that begin with uncontrolled blood sugar. And we started a war on fat decades ago. And the war on saturated fat led to the rise in highly processed sugar. You know, high fructose corn syrup was in everything, everything. Nobody was afraid of carbs.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  They were only afraid of fat. So as long as it said low fat, we had skim milk, then we had, you know, one percent milk and then two percent milk and.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  You know, it's wild about all of that is looking at the timing of everyone not smoking anymore and big tobacco tanking. And then all of a sudden the food situation started and then all of these issues followed.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 32:31Speaker 03

  We all of a sudden anxiety and depression and ADD and all that stuff is off the charts. And I'm like, you know, now it's come out, obviously that the scientists were paid for the whole big food pharma thing is because it was tobacco companies buying into these food companies. It's all linked and related and everybody sees it now, but.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  Can I make a comment about?

• 32:52Speaker 03

  Decades of mess.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  It's crazy. A comment I have to make, we were just in Japan. We went to Disney in Japan and we've been to Disney in Orlando, dozen, dozens of times. There's a huge difference that we noted.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  I know what's coming.

• 33:07Speaker 00

  There was nobody in those carts.

• 33:08Speaker 02

  I can't do Disney.

• 33:09Speaker 01

  No scooters in Japan.

• 33:10Speaker 00

  There was nobody in those scooters who were obese.

• 33:12Speaker 03

  With sixty four ounce diet coke.

• 33:14Speaker 00

  Zero, zero. So, and I looked it up and Japan's obesity is four to five percent and America's is forty five percent.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  You can't even get a scooter in Orlando. Here, there was not anybody on a scooter, not one person the whole day.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  You should have gotten a scooter.

• 33:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, you know, but, but I think it goes to what you were saying. We've been tricked for so many years. You know, no matter how, people just started thinking that's in their, that's their genetics, as you know.

• 33:37Speaker 01

  Their destiny.

• 33:38Speaker 00

  It's different, right? That's their destiny because we've been told that, all right, no fat, low fat, but everything else, right? So it is, it is sad.

• 33:46Speaker 03

  I remember in college using can't believe it's not butter spray on my toast.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Same.

• 33:51Speaker 03

  That was my breakfast.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  He loved that.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:56Speaker 03

  And that, but that was like, I drank skim milk and put it in my cereal. I mean.

• 34:00Speaker 00

  I used to think almond milk was good. You know, isn't it like oil? It's like seed oil.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  I think a lot, now the big trend is oat milk and nobody, how does, how are people not realizing oat milk is literally the worst thing you can put in your pocket?

• 34:14Speaker 01

  It's so high in calories.

• 34:14Speaker 03

  So high, but people think it's healthy because.

• 34:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, because it's not dairy. It's horrible.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  I, at this point, I used to put all these things in my matcha now and I'm just drinking it straight up. Forget it, water.

• 34:25Speaker 02

  I can't do matcha, dude.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  I can't do that.

• 34:27Speaker 01

  I love matcha.

• 34:29Speaker 00

  You didn't like it when you first started.

• 34:32Speaker 01

  I've always drank green tea, so I had.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  You should not be drinking green tea, lady. We'll talk about it afterwards. No.

• 34:39Speaker 02

  Tell them right now.

• 34:40Speaker 03

  Okay. You have a comp T genetic break, which we'll look at your test again and make sure. I'm pretty sure you do.

• 34:47Speaker 01

  Pretty sure with the STD, yes.

• 34:49Speaker 03

  But green tea and matcha and all of that is a comp T inhibitor. So it's making, and the question is making all of those, the crazy thoughts worse.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  So I know I shouldn't be on caffeine. And actually, by the way, for years I didn't touch caffeine. For me, I go through waves of it. And I'll be honest, it's more, it's an addiction. I think isn't caffeine the biggest addiction in the entire world? So I think I go through waves and it, it becomes a habit. I gotta get my matcha today. And I think that's where I'm at right now.

• 35:20Speaker 00

  Like, it's a little confusing. Where does that measurement go against, you know, eating with your blood type?

• 35:26Speaker 02

  I don't think there's a lot of data on eating for your blood type. I, I, I think there's some, some truth to that because essentially if you look at ancestrally, if you looked at the entire world, it used to be that we ate, slept, drank, traveled within a very small distance of where we, where we lived. The soil microbiome and the gut microbiome were almost superimposable because we ate in that region. The animals were in that region, the plants were in that region. I mean, right now, if you win a Fiji apple in February in Alaska, you can have a Fiji apple in February in Alaska, right? So, so what we've done is we've cross pollinated, you know, all of these different foods from different microbiomes around the world. That's why if you go to Mexico, for example, you, you might drink the water and get Montezuma's

• 36:11Speaker 02

  revenge.

• 36:14Speaker 00

  She thinks that Mexico is a big, she said Mexico is a big toilet to her.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  I haven't been to Mexico in probably more than fifteen years. That is the only country you cannot get me to go to.

• 36:28Speaker 00

  I don't know if it's blood type. She is so sensitive and me, I'm on the other side, like I eat shit that would make a Billy goat puke. A Billy goat uses me, you, you gonna eat that?

• 36:41Speaker 01

  He's ridiculous. Two months, like I come back from Mexico, it's an average of six weeks to eight weeks of just like GI upset, sending samples in because now I'm like, I don't know, everything's screwed up. I don't know what's wrong with me. I'm like, you know what? How about we just don't go to Mexico? If you gotta go there for work, you go solo.

• 36:59Speaker 02

  Mexico?

• 37:00Speaker 00

  Huh?

• 37:00Speaker 02

  You speak a lot in Mexico?

• 37:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, I speak probably once a year and then not a problem.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  He has something upcoming. He's like, it's around your birthday. You want to go and spend your birthday there? I'm like, no.

• 37:08Speaker 03

  No.

• 37:09Speaker 01

  No, thank you.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  So, um, I want to just bring this back together. So when did your journeys, the, the health journey sort of unite? Cause you are very much on this journey together now.

• 37:20Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  I feel like it was a solo journey.

• 37:22Speaker 03

  Oh, he's all in.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  You reluctantly came on board and now you're like the spokesperson in a lot of ways.

• 37:28Speaker 01

  I think.

• 37:28Speaker 03

  Sharp jevity.

• 37:30Speaker 01

  Probably that. And I think even this past year, didn't I even make a comment about this the other day that I feel like we're so in sync?

• 37:35Speaker 02

  You are.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Right now for the first time.

• 37:37Speaker 03

  I feel that.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Ever.

• 37:38Speaker 00

  I think it started about three years ago. We met you, what, five years ago?

• 37:42Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 37:43Speaker 00

  So the five years, it started, we started seeing the results, six months a year. We started saying, we really like this, a part of our life. But then we started changing our habits and knowing that we can fit these things in a normal way of life. It doesn't have to be this kind of like task. And then we started getting the Da Vinci red bed or the protocol for hyperbarics and all this stuff that you've been recommending. We, we, and I started, Hockett. Then I started going to, you know, aspirin thing and this thing. And then it, it just started becoming part of our normal life. I think we've been in sync for about two years, a year and a half, two years.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, it's also good for accountability for each other because sometimes I'll see him do something and I'm like, oh, I've been slipping on that. I gotta get back on it. Perhaps he feels the same way.

• 38:30Speaker 00

  I mean, my daughter at this point, well, like you shouldn't eat that, this and that. She's like, Daddy, why are you rubbing that Carmax on your lips?

• 38:36Speaker 00

  Go to your room.

• 38:39Speaker 00

  She plays with dolls and her dolls, she's imitating mommy and daddy and she's going, Gotta take my glutathione. Damon, do you have your magnesium?

• 38:50Speaker 01

  No, honey.

• 38:51Speaker 00

  She's really doing the pork gets screwed up.

• 38:53Speaker 01

  Really? She knows I'm obsessed. I can't go a day without my creatine.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  Imagine the conversations with her friends at school.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  No, she does. And then the other one goes, oh, my mom's gluten free, too.

• 39:03Speaker 03

  Oh, that's so funny.

• 39:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, but she walks by one day and dad's in a red bed. Mom's over here.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  I put her on the machine.

• 39:11Speaker 00

  Now she's like this.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  She goes, she goes on the Pure Wave mat. She goes in the Vemi bed, the Pemi. She goes in the red light. I mean, she, I put her on these machines because even when she's having a bad day, I put her on this machine. She comes out, she's a different kid.

• 39:25Speaker 03

  That's amazing.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  Yes, absolutely. Yes, a biocharger.

• 39:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, you know, because again, we all are fortunate enough to have access to these machines.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  Absolutely.

• 39:35Speaker 03

  To know that you can, you know, take your kid outside, put them in the grass, put them in the sand, put them in the dirt, let them play outside, you know, get their sunlight. It's, clean the water better, like filter it out. There's so many easy systems and ways to do it for free that you don't need all the machines, but if you can afford them, they're super cool. We also like, I love the, the concept that, if I, hopefully I'm allowed to talk about this, ultimate longevity centers are coming out. People are gonna have access to it.

• 40:05Speaker 00

  I think that's a good point. Like I said, people, I don't want people, you know, shutting down. They see that we're in those machines. I happen to be able to afford it and they cost altogether less than one of my buddy's Ferraris. You know, you know, Robert has 80 cars.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  That's a good way to put it, Dan. I like that.

• 40:18Speaker 00

  It really does. But why do I have that? Because I travel so much, I can't go to ultimate longevity center at two in the morning. So that's why it fits our lives. But you're right. All these machines are available. You can go and test them. And of course, I know that, and I'm very proud to see the growth. And I remember I stopped by that one in San Diego or something like that. And, and that's what you're bringing to people. And I love seeing that. That's a model that everybody needs to have access to.

• 40:47Speaker 02

  I appreciate that. I mean, I really feel like my message is for the masses. And when I was architecting this idea with Anthony, I said, we have to build a model that can be profitable on the, on the playground alone, right? Just by creating the community and the connection around wellness. Number one affordability. I want to be down into every middle America town like Mobile, Alabama, I want to be in, you know, outside of Little Rock, Arkansas. I don't, I don't just want to be LA, Manhattan, Miami. I went hundreds, if not thousands of these centers all over the country where people can walk into a strip mall like environment and they can have access to hyperbarics, red light, sauna, cold plunge, PEMF, all the things you're talking about, low cost membership basis and do this at scale.

• 41:32Speaker 00

  And more importantly, though, when they see it's working or not working, they have a community to say, what? Oh, no, no, it's working. Oh, you need to do more of this because there's a community. I think that's important, right? You go to, you gotta, you go to a lot of places. There's no community. They're just, they're servicing you, but it's not a community.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, we were talking about this before the podcast, like, why are run clubs up 400% in the last 24 months? It's not because you need a run club to run a 5K. You can put your shoes on right now and go run a 5K. The 5K actually sucks, but it's, it's what happens the 30 minutes before and the 60 minutes after. You know that you're meeting a community of people that have, that have the same mission, vision, values. They're on the same journey that you are. People are so curious right now.

• 42:10Speaker 00

  The other day, I didn't have, Jay Abraham, my mentor was speaking for Tony Robbins, and he, we didn't have time to meet until we said, why don't we go do exosomes together? And we had time to meet.

• 42:23Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 42:24Speaker 00

  Right? He has time to meet. Robert, the, the building I'm in now, they're saying that right now, executives, if you give them that type of package, the access like that, they're gonna stop staying at home. They'll come in to be and do stuff like that because they can't do that at home. That's attracting talent as well. So I think it's really great because you'll have deals with buildings and other things like that.

• 42:46Speaker 03

  Who was it that told us, was it Richard Branson that told us how he does not take meetings unless, am I on right on?

• 42:53Speaker 02

  It was like you could do a walking meeting, a bike, cycling meeting, or tennis.

• 42:57Speaker 03

  It had to be based around exercise.

• 43:00Speaker 00

  Hong Kong, a Tokyo meeting when you walk, or it has to be based around something. That's great.

• 43:04Speaker 03

  The more exercise you'll do, the longer he'll meet with you. And I was like, that's brilliant, actually. Instead of, everybody sits there. It's always a lunch or a dinner or a happy hour or something.

• 43:14Speaker 00

  And that's why Richard looked so great.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Well, you know what I do?

• 43:17Speaker 02

  And he's a killer tennis player.

• 43:19Speaker 01

  What I do with a lot of people, too. I say, hey, you want to meet for lunch? Do you want to do machines? Come over.

• 43:23Speaker 03

  I know, mine too.

• 43:24Speaker 02

  I do it too, for my podcast guests. I mean, I, I like folks from the FDA and from HHS come down here. I always throw board shorts into their chest and go, boys, take the suits off.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  That's the time you got naked in front of me. You want to go in there? I was like, yeah, no problem. I was like, turn around. You got a top?

• 43:39Speaker 01

  Oh, my God.

• 43:43Speaker 00

  And I remember I came out and you said, and you said, Gary, you gotta stop that damn hippie.

• 43:49Speaker 03

  I, one of my, the funniest times was we had a very, he's not public, so I can't say his name, but very high profile celebrity who came to use the red bed. And as I'm explaining that you, you know, there's, this is the button you push and you just pull it down over yourself and you're gonna want to get into your boxers, your underwear, whatever. I turn around and, and I'm saying like, as I leave, this is how you do these things. He was naked before I left the room. And I was like, oh, my God.

• 44:16Speaker 02

  99% of the women in America would not have minded being in the room naked with this particular person. She goes down and shuts the door and she goes.

• 44:24Speaker 03

  That was a lot.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  He's naked.

• 44:28Speaker 01

  That's funny. Right now I want to know who to.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  But yeah, no, I think this journey is so cool and so fascinating because we're, you know, everyone is on it, you know, Gen Z is on it. Most of the people watching this podcast are on it. People are curious. They're changing their behavior and they're shifting where they spend income, which is, which is going to drive corporate behavior. Because we always think, well, why doesn't the government just force them to do this? What's going to force corporations to change? It's going to be how consumers spend money. And I think ultimate longevity centers, pretty soon will have the largest footprint in America for people to have access to this at a reasonable cost. And I want to see how we can keep people out of the system at scale.

• 45:10Speaker 03

  You know, it'd be cool is talking about companies and corporations is corporations giving their employees a benefit, one of the health benefits, not just having insurance to go and use at the doctor's office, but to have access to something like this. I know a lot of them do like gym memberships and things. Absolutely.

• 45:28Speaker 00

  It's important. And I've been trying to put that together because Gary knows that I have my thing called CEO access. And I've been adding my sharp longevity brand to it, where it's like I manage CEO. So I'm, I'm almost like, I've been doing this thing. I'm almost like a, a concert doctor for CEOs brands. I was talking to Gary and it was like, somebody like, oh, I need, oh, you need two PR people and a, so call me in the morning. You need, you need this kind of a

• 45:53Speaker 00

  security team. Take one of these, call me in the morning. You need, you need to be on this stage. You need to be a Davos. Take two Davos and call me in the morning. And what they've been asking, and he knows, you know, one of them, Brandon, he's been asking to get his life and his world, get him healthier and then do it for his corporation. He had 2,000 people work for him in the middle of Minnesota, Minneapolis. And he's been like, I want this because my, they're all about hearing technology and hearing health. Starkey, great, great guys, changing lives. When you can change somebody's hearing, they're changing lives. But now he's saying, I want to attach that to the whole wellness of my whole community. That's awesome. So you need to do more of that for CEOs. And of course, you're part of our family. So I always recommend the CEOs to you guys. But this is important.

• 46:35Speaker 02

  I send, I send a lot of startup company CEOs and CEOs that are stuck to Damon.

• 46:41Speaker 00

  I think I actually have a, I think we have a, what's it called? A call to action. Because if you want to send any, if anybody gets to your site, I think it's CEOaccess.com/ultimate.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  CEOaccess.com/ultimate.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  And then we will, we will, it's usually CEOs doing over 200 million annually, but in business, but we'll give them the first look because we only have room for a few, you know?

• 47:07Speaker 02

  Okay. I'm gonna put this in the show notes so that my audience, if you're building a business and you want to access Damon John, that's, that's huge. I mean, that, that advice is life changing, just like my advice for the human body. So we wind down all of these podcasts by asking our guests the same question. What does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

• 47:31Speaker 01

  Well, I think being here for my, our daughter, long-term and knowing that all the things I'm doing today will set me up tomorrow, 10 years from now, 20 years, 30 years from now. I think that would probably, you know, that would, that's what it would be.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  Be an ultimate parent.

• 47:51Speaker 01

  Be an ultimate parent, but learning all of the, you know, longevity tools and the bio biohacking tools to extend my life, my life.

• 48:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. I think very similar. I think that to be an ultimate human, which I consider myself now, meaning I'm not perfect, lots of work on it never, knowing that never stops. However, I will never say that I don't know why this happened. Hopefully I don't get hit by this, this bus. I know that I'm in full control of everything happening. I know that if I live five to 10 years longer, there's going to be so much more technology that will help me. And then I'm going to be around for my wife and walk my three little girls down the aisle. And my, I'm now changing my goal. My goal used to be, I want to live long enough to walk my three little girls down the aisle. Now my goals are, I want to live long enough to walk my grandchildren

• 48:46Speaker 00

  down the aisle, or maybe even grand, great grandchildren. And so, and then I want to also be just like on Shark Tank from being about entrepreneurship and stuff. I want to be the face of everyday humans to say, you can do it. If I can do it, you can do it. And the most important thing is in your life is your family, your family.

• 49:05Speaker 03

  Exactly. I think that's very selfless, too, because one thing that I, I feel like it's very selfish to not take care of yourself, because then the earlier someone else has to start taking care of you, the harder it is on families.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  I can't agree with you more.

• 49:20Speaker 03

  And to be taking care of ourselves now so that our kids, that they don't have to experience this for a long, long time is, I think the most selfless thing.

• 49:29Speaker 00

  You want to sit on the porch, holding your significant other's hands, looking in and out the yard and not, this person's up in the bed with her.

• 49:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, exactly.

• 49:38Speaker 00

  And you gotta try to get them outside, right? You just want that, you want, you want to be able to enjoy all you work for.

• 49:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, we've all been there with a love on. So you're not off the hook either. What does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

• 49:48Speaker 03

  I just said, it's being.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  Are we holding hands? We're holding hands. This is so cute.

• 49:55Speaker 00

  And I washed my hands before I came.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  Oh, thank God.

• 50:01Speaker 01

  I was gonna go wash my hands. Go ahead.

• 50:03Speaker 03

  He's like, she's like, oh, maybe not now. To be an ultimate human, I think is, again, I think it's okay to be a little bit selfish to take care of yourself.

• 50:16Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 50:16Speaker 03

  And then that is a selfless act for your family. Because if I'm taking care of myself, then I can take care of you better. I can take care of my friends better. I can take care of my kids better. And, you know, and when you feel good, then you're in a good mood and you're happy. But to, to just succumb to, I don't feel good, I'm tired, I'm angry, whatever it is, and you're, and then not go get help, or not make a change, or not try to search for answers, is selfish, selfish. But I think if you take a step back and you, you know, really analyze and, and dig and figure out, okay, what is going on, but then also take the advice and follow through. That's being an ultimate human for your, your family.

• 51:00Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 51:01Speaker 02

  I think you're an ultimate human.

• 51:02Speaker 03

  Oh, thanks. You too.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  Thank you both for everything you both do. And for everybody else, for us, for everybody else over the years. You guys are both amazing.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  Thank you for believing us from the beginning because you guys.

• 51:11Speaker 00

  I didn't believe in him at first. I'd be very. I didn't believe, but I'm gonna tell you when I believed it. I saw him one day skipping. And I said, a man skipped, he skipped.

• 51:25Speaker 00

  When I saw him skip, I said, that man's gotta feel like a million bucks because I've never seen a grown man like that skip for no damn reason. I need some of that.

• 51:34Speaker 03

  He can, Damon, so he skipped.

• 51:37Speaker 00

  He has so much energy. Sometimes I just jump.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  I want some of that, right? I want some of that.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  All right, guys. I'll put links in the show notes to everything that we discussed today, including how to get in touch with Damon if you've got a company that you want some guidance on. And until next time, that's just science.