314. The Toxic Burden on Your Body: How Your Teeth Impact Your Overall Health - Dr. Jigar Gandhi

Dr. Jigar Gandhi returns to break down the detox order he uses with patients: parasites first, then mold, heavy metals. He explains how cavitations and mold in the jaw may stall detox, why a veneer seam can become a place for fungus to grow, how a liver flush fits in, and why glycine comes up with glyphosate. He also covers the tests he trusts, including the cone beam scan and DMPS provoked metals test. Don’t guess, test. Click here to join Gary’s VIP Community: https://bit.ly/4ai0Xwg Connect with Dr. Jigar Gandhi Website: https://bit.ly/4i91HrU YouTube: https://bit.ly/4B3oduX Instagram: https://bit.ly/4ifSz62 X: https://bit.ly/3WBERlB Thank you to our partners A-GAME: “ULTIMATE15” FOR 15% OFF: http://bit.ly/4kek1ij AION: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4h6KHAD AIRES: “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: https://bit.ly/4a3Duze BAJA GOLD: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/3WSBqUa BODYHEALTH: “ULTIMATE20” FOR 20% OFF: http://bit.ly/4e5IjsVBREW: THE ULTIMATE COFFEE: https://bit.ly/4elHM82 COLD LIFE: THE ULTIMATE HUMAN PLUNGE: https://bit.ly/4eULUKp CYMBIOTIKA: “BRECKACYM30” FOR 30% OFF: https://bit.ly/4tjyluP GENETIC METHYLATION TEST (UK ONLY): https://bit.ly/48QJJrk GENETIC TEST (USA ONLY): https://bit.ly/3Yg1Uk9 GOPUFF: GET YOUR FAVORITE SNACK!: https://bit.ly/4obIFDC H2TABS: “ULTIMATE10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4hMNdgg HEALF: 10% OFF YOUR ORDER: https://bit.ly/41HJg6S PEPTUAL: “TUH10” FOR 10% OFF: https://bit.ly/4mKxgcn SNOOZE: LET’S GET TO SLEEP!: https://bit.ly/4pt1T6V WHOOP: JOIN & GET 1 FREE MONTH!: https://bit.ly/3VQ0nzW Watch the “Ultimate Human Podcast” every Tuesday & Thursday at 9AM EST: YouTube: https://bit.ly/3RPQYX8 Podcasts: https://bit.ly/3RQftU0 Connect with Gary Brecka Instagram: https://bit.ly/3RPpnFs TikTok: https://bit.ly/4coJ8fo X: https://bit.ly/3Opc8tf Facebook: https://bit.ly/464VA1H LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/4hH7Ri2 Website: https://bit.ly/4eLDbdU Merch: https://bit.ly/4aBpOM1 Newsletter: https://bit.ly/47ejrws Ask Gary: https://bit.ly/3PEAJuG Timestamps 00:00 - Intro: biologic dentistry 01:45 - Gary’s cracked tooth 03:56- Tooth-to-organ meridian charts are not a widely validated diagnostic tool. This is one person's experience. Numbness, chest or shoulder pain should be evaluated by a physician. 12:37 - Symptoms linked to cavitation infections 17:01- Diagnosis should be made by a physician using validated tests. 18:30 - Parasite testing 23:16- 220% increase 25:01 - Large or repeated doses of Epsom salt can cause dangerous magnesium levels, and a flush can trigger complications in people with gallstones. Don't attempt one without physician approval. 32:42 - Sinus and mold cases 37:28- Antifungal drugs require a diagnosed fungal infection and a prescription. 41:33 - Sauna and cold plunge 42:54 - Dental metals and mercury 43:57- Provoked urine metal tests may not provide the most accurate results. 47:23- Chelating agents such as DMSA are prescription drugs approved for specific poisonings. They should only be used under the care of a physician after validated testing. 57:22 - Finding a biological dentist 59:57 - Veneers and hidden infection 01:11:33 - What it means to be an Ultimate Human Disclaimer: This episode is for educational and entertainment purposes only and is not medical or dental advice. The views and statements of guests are their own and do not necessarily reflect those of The Ultimate Human or Gary Brecka. Dr. Gandhi is a licensed dentist. The stories shared are individual experiences, and many of the approaches discussed, including biologic dentistry, cavitation surgery, meridian-based assessment, and detox protocols, are not supported by high-quality clinical evidence or by mainstream medical and dental organizations. Prescription medications mentioned should only be used under the care of a licensed physician after proper diagnosis. Do not stop, start, or change any treatment or dental care based on this episode. Talk to your physician and dentist first. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

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  We live in a toxic world. So because of all the dental repair that's being done on patients and the toxicity levels are just skyrocketing through the roof, that's why people are getting more sick. And we're trying to figure out the root cause of the problems. And majority of times, it is something that happened in the mouth.

• 0:14Speaker 01

  We're starting to look at people as a system, that it's not just one thing that deserves one arrow, and that we really need to zoom out and look at the entire system. And toxicity is at the root. So many autoimmune conditions.

• 0:26Speaker 00

  You eat something, raw foods, like sushi, burgers, meat, you know, there's toxins in there. So every time you're chewing down, if you get food constantly stuck in there, it makes its way down into the jawbone. And now it's in an anaerobic environment. So now those toxins sit inside the jawbone with parasites, mold, viruses, bacteria. We've always had it. But why is it becoming more alarming now than ever before? Because our buckets of toxin load is overfilling.

• 0:48Speaker 01

  We don't seem to have a respect for that toxic load. And it's not that thing that causes you to go to the emergency room.

• 0:54Speaker 00

  Whether you have parasites, mold, bacteria, environmental toxins, we need to get rid of this load. Because what I'm finding more and more, you find all these toxins in the mouth. Now, when it's clean, where it's going to go? It's going to go downstream or upstream. If your body's not resilient and protected, we actually just made you worse.

• 1:09Speaker 01

  A lot of us have parasites, heavy metal, mold, mycotoxin, or virus. What do some of these detoxes look like?

• 1:15Speaker 00

  Before you jump in to do something?

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Hey, guys. Welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brecka. Today's guest is backed by very popular demand and for a good reason. Dr. Gandhi is one of the top biologic dentists in the country, and he's treated myself, my wife, and my daughters. When I cracked a tooth, he texts me back asking about my shoulder, my lung, and my left toe, things I'd never even told a single person. Forty-eight hours after that tooth came out, all three symptoms were gone. This time, we're going beyond the mouth into the whole body detox. Dr. Gandhi is going to show us what he's pulled out of some people's jaws. He's going to share how his own testosterone went from 271 to 866 after he cleaned up his toxic load. And he's going to walk us through the

• 2:13Speaker 01

  liver, parasite, mold, and heavy metal protocols that he uses on all of his patients. Because the root cause of how you feel may not be where you think it is. So let's get into it. Hey, guys. Welcome back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. I'm your host, human biologist Gary Brecka, where we go down the road of everything, anti-aging, longevity, and everything in between. And today's guest is a repeat guest, but I've asked him to come back today because he is one of the top biologic dentists in the entire country. He's done my family, he's done my wife, my daughter, myself, both of my daughters, actually. And I asked him to come back today to talk about all things detox. We've been down this detox bandwagon for the last few months, and he has some really great crystals of knowledge that I

• 2:58Speaker 01

  can't wait to drop on the podcast. Welcome back, Dr. Gandhi.

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  Appreciate you.

• 3:01Speaker 01

  So good to see you, man.

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  Good seeing you, brother.

• 3:03Speaker 01

  We had a good laugh before the podcast.

• 3:05Speaker 00

  A hundred percent.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  I had a hard time getting this one off the ground.

• 3:09Speaker 00

  Good laugh, good workout.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Hyperbaric.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  Dude, I'm on my second day in a row of 100% sleep scores, so I feel great. And then you spent the night last night, and we took you over for a workout this morning.

• 3:20Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Thank you, man.

• 3:21Speaker 01

  That was pretty brutal, right?

• 3:22Speaker 00

  That was brutal. It's fun.

• 3:23Speaker 01

  So my, my, uh, my son's got a high rocks race coming two Saturdays from now. So he's in that final stage of prep. So we did a high rock style workout this morning with the one kilometer run, which Dr. Gandhi and I both bailed on at about the third round. I was like, you know what? I'll just jump on the exercise bike.

• 3:42Speaker 00

  We had enough.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  Now, it was, it was a great, uh, great workout. Then we came home, got in the hyperbaric chamber, prepped for the podcast. And then before we got on the podcast today, we had the three farm fresh eggs, a nice sourdough, some, uh, fermented, fermented veggies, and a nice fistful of berries. So we are ready to roll.

• 4:00Speaker 00

  Some clean food.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Yeah. We've done a number of podcasts on the biologic dentistry. Um, you've not only changed my life and my wife's and both of my daughters, but countless numbers of private clients of mine, some of which have been very public about it. Uh, Steve Harvey, Stephen A. Smith, several others that I, that I won't mention on the podcast, but people that have struggled with symptoms that I don't think they link back to, um, these cavitations in the mouth. And, and I think there's still a large body of dental medicine that doesn't even believe in these, um, cavitations. Uh, and they believe you can leave dead tissue in the body. They believe that you can kill a tooth through a root

• 4:44Speaker 01

  canal and just leave that dead tissue. But no, no other area of medicine believes that.

• 4:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  Right? I mean, if, if you have, um, a necrotic appendix, you have to take that tissue out of the body. If something dies in the human body, that tissue's got to be removed. With the exception of this broad acceptance in dentistry, that dead tissue, um, it can be left to decay inside of your face with no consequences.

• 5:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, the biggest misconception is thinking of a tooth as an organ or not, right? Medical dictionary defines an organ as having nerve artery, vein, lymphatic drainage, and function, right? That's an organ. So each tooth is an extension of the brain, right?

• 5:24Speaker 01

  Right.

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  It's, uh, the enamel is ectoderm, right? It basically is the same neurological tissue that we have. So the biggest problem that we face in dentistry, you know, it's like, okay, well, do we do repair work? Do we patch it up? And the patient's okay, because then if they can eat and chew, they're fine.

• 5:40Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:40Speaker 00

  But just like the appendix, if the appendix is bad, you don't tell the doctor, hey, just tie it up, you know, just put some material in there and leave it alone.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:48Speaker 00

  That's where we have to take the step, the next step in society, right? Was it okay to do for years? Yeah, because that's all we had, right? Where else people would be walking around without teeth? We didn't have all the technology. We didn't understand the science behind it.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:01Speaker 00

  Now, with all the science behind it, and then also, we live in a toxic environment as well. So because of all the dental repair that's being done on patients, and the toxicity levels are just skyrocketing through the roof.

• 6:14Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:14Speaker 00

  That's why people are getting more sick. And we're trying to figure out the root cause of the problems. And majority of times, it is something that happened in the mouth.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  You know, what was fascinating to me, and I've told this story on other podcasts, so for those of you that have seen it, just bear with me again, because I think it warrants mentioning again on this podcast. What really drove it home for me was, uh, I'm like most people, um, don't take any offense to this, but I don't like going to the dentist.

• 6:38Speaker 00

  No one does. No one does. Um, it's like today might be the one day I don't hear it, though.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  I'm not in the office. I love just going to the dentist. I love the sound of that drill in my skull. Uh, you know, and it's, it's kind of a childhood fear. You know, I had, I had a fear of needles growing up. I've conquered that as an adult, but I think that, that fear of going to the dentist I've always had. And I think most people have some apprehension about going and having dental work done, not getting their teeth cleaned, but getting, getting dental work done. And so like most people, you go when there's pain.

• 7:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Right? Or you go, you chipped your tooth, or, you know, you had some kind of trauma to your mouth. Um, or you've just got this nagging pain, and eventually you're like, I gotta get this fixed. So for me, um, I bit down, um, on something and I cracked one of my teeth. And so I text you and I was like, Dr. G, I gotta come see you. You know, I bit down on something, cracked my tooth. And you said, take a picture of it. So I opened my mouth, I shot a picture of it. And you, what you text me back, uh, I'll never forget. Because you asked me, you said, do you have left anterior shoulder pain? You're super specific. It wasn't left shoulder pain, it was left anterior shoulder pain.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  I'll go, that's weird. Um, I do. I actually have, I just thought it was a bicep tendon. And I just worked through it. It wasn't anything that like drove me to the ER or sent me to the urgent care. And then you said, um, do you ever get left lower lobe lung, lung pain? I go, that's strange, because when I do HIIT's cardio, every time I do HIIT's cardio, I have a catch in my diaphragm down here at the lower part of my rib. And I just thought it was a runner's cramp. Um, and again, not something that was super alarming to me. I only got it when I would push myself in cardio. But then you said something that I had never shared with anyone. I didn't even share this with my wife. You're like,

• 8:37Speaker 01

  does your left toe ever go numb? I go, what?

• 8:41Speaker 00

  Freaking you out.

• 8:43Speaker 01

  I'm like looking around, I'm like, that freaked me out because I had never told anyone about that. And sometimes you might catch me like I would tap my foot because I would feel my toe just kind of go numb. Or sometimes I would take my shoe off and I would just rub my, my big toe. I thought it was like lack of circulation because of the shoes or whatever. It was too specific for you not to have a rationale to ask me those questions. And then you sent me back this picture, I still have it on my phone, an image of a meridian chart.

• 9:14Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 9:14Speaker 01

  And, um, I might get it wrong, but I think you said it was my ninth or my 11th.

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  Nineteenth.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Nineteenth, yeah. Um, so I mixed the two.

• 9:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's okay.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  So my 19th meridian, and it mapped straight to what you were talking about. And I was like, okay, I gotta go up and get this done. And I went up, had the tooth extracted, had the socket cleaned out. First, I did that cone beam x-ray. You could see it. You knew exactly what you were after. Forty-eight hours after you did that, while I was still healing from the surgery, all of those three, um, issues went away, and they've never come back.

• 9:49Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 9:50Speaker 01

  So I became a staunch believer in biologic dentistry at that time. And then I brought you my wife and both of my daughters, um, and countless numbers of my VIP, uh, private clients. And they've all had amazing experience with you. Some of them have had life-changing, um, uh, experiences with you. And I'd like to talk about first, what is going on in the jaw? Because when, when you extracted my tooth, and then after the surgery, went back into a back room, and you had a microscope, and we put it up on the microscope, when I could actually see macrophages, my white blood cells, going after parasites.

• 10:30Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  And bacteria.

• 10:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:33Speaker 01

  I it just freaked me out that that was living in my jaw for God knows how long.

• 10:38Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 10:38Speaker 01

  All right. And you're seeing this countless numbers of times. And if you're squeamish, uh, look away from the screen right now because I am going to have Dr. Gandhi put up some images on the screen of some of the things that you have recently taken out of people's jaws.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  What does that look like?

• 10:57Speaker 00

  So, thank you for sending the patients. Appreciate it, man.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 10:59Speaker 00

  And, uh, I'm glad you're feeling so much better. You know, that's what started this journey and appreciate you getting the word out there. Cause biological dentists, we struggle to get the word out there.

• 11:07Speaker 01

  No, I'm an evangelical biologic dentist supporter for sure.

• 11:11Speaker 00

  Thank you, man. Uh, so we live in a toxic world, right? You eat something, raw foods like sushi, burgers, meat. That's medium well, uh, medium rare or rare, right? So you know, there's toxins in there, right? Whether it's parasites, it's bacteria, viruses, whatever's in there. So every time you're chewing down, each tooth has a ligament. The ligament, we call it a PDL, right? This gets more technical, right? But if you get food constantly stuck in there, it makes its way down into the jawbone. And now it's in an anaerobic environment. Each tooth is the organ, right? So it has a nerve artery vein that's connected to your brain, the trigeminal nerve, right? So now those toxins sit in there, right? Sit inside the jawbone. And we've had this for centuries. We, we've co-mingled, right? With parasites, mold, viruses, bacteria. We've always had it, right?

• 11:55Speaker 00

  But why is it becoming more alarming now than ever before? Cause the toxicity level, like our buckets of toxin load is overfilling. That's why people getting sick, right? So you, for example, you had that for years inside of your jawbone and didn't know about it, right?

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was no pain.

• 12:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Just like all of us. But all of a sudden it started bothering you because your body couldn't take it no more, right? So there's two sides to it. Do we wait till something breaks or do we be proactive about it, right? You know, if it ain't broke, if it ain't broken, don't fix it, right? So I think that's also a misconception because then, then your health can decline. And luckily for you, you could, you had the right means to reach out, right? And it got fixed the right way. But if it wasn't cleaned out, the jawbone wasn't cleaned out properly, then you'll still be in the same problem, right?

• 12:38Speaker 01

  What are, what are some of the symptoms that people might be having that would be indicative of one of these cavitation infections that they might not be linking to the cavitation infection?

• 12:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. So, uh, if it's a wisdom tooth, sometimes, uh, digestion issues. Cause like the meridian chart we talked about, that's Eastern medicine. I'm Western medicine, cause in the U.S. So we use as a reference tool, can't use it for diagnostic, diagnostic purposes. But when you look at the meridian chart, they can have heart issues because the heart is connected to that meridian. Where the wisdom teeth are, small intestine, lumbar issues, right? Uh, central nervous system issues, chronic fatigue, right? So there's brain fog. So there's a lot that can be linked to that eye, ear, right? Uh, the inner ear. So I have countless patients always say that. The, the craziest story that I had recently, the patient, her last child was five years ago. So for 12, and then her oldest son is 12, her oldest child is 12.

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  So for the last five years, she was pumping breast milk three times a day. She couldn't, you know, she goes out, it's embarrassing, right?

• 13:37Speaker 01

  Right.

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  Um, we worked on our left side, the pituitary gland, the posterior pituitary gland is connected to the upper left side. So we cleaned everything out, literally, she told me, I don't pump breast milk anymore. This is less than 48 hours after.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  Really?

• 13:51Speaker 00

  Done, completely. Young, beautiful girl, saved her life. Like you, she can't go out. She's like, I go out, it's embarrassing. Like my shirt gets stained.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  Wow. Oh, cause she was still lactating.

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  Yeah.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  And she, so she had to pump it to empty the breast?

• 14:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Why? Because she was still.

• 14:05Speaker 00

  She had her kid five years ago and still lactating.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Okay. So she wasn't pumping it for her child.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  No.

• 14:10Speaker 01

  She was doing it just to.

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  An overdrive.

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  To keep it from accumulating.

• 14:14Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 14:16Speaker 00

  And it gets even better. I think she, in her family, she has 12 dentists. They all thought she was crazy, getting this done by me.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 14:24Speaker 00

  So, but that's, that's the challenges that we live with, right? So that's one of them, but, uh, there, there's a lot of symptoms, like it's very, and we'll post the meridian chart too. So people can deep dive. We have one, a digital one on our website as well. So you can just deep dive. Don't go crazy over it. You know, sometimes people go like, I have this, I have this. And they start diagnosing themselves about everything. No, you're still living, you're still breathing, you're okay. It just depends on, do we want to be proactive or do we want to wait and watch?

• 14:48Speaker 01

  Right. So the, the meridian chart, I think is a great way for people to take those unexplained symptoms that they might be having, uh, cause there is a lot of folks on my platform that are doing everything right. Quote unquote, doing everything right. You know, they're dialing in on their sleep, they're eating a whole food diet. You know, they're exercising on a regular basis. They live a fairly toxin-free lifestyle. They're conscious of plastic water bottles, things like that. They're not psycho biohackers. They're probably doing sauna a few days a week. And, and yet they just know inherently that they're not where they want to be.

• 15:21Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  Um, they know that something's off and they just can't seem to quite dial in. And they got the eight sleep mattress. They, you know, they're, they're doing all of the things, maybe even red light. And that's when getting this cone beam x-ray is where, that's the starting point, right?

• 15:38Speaker 00

  Starting point, yeah.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  It's a 360 degree x-ray, you lay your chin in, it's painless.

• 15:42Speaker 00

  They call it 3D scan, cone beam, dental CT. It's all the same terminology.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 15:46Speaker 00

  But yeah, that's where majority of people we find in the biohacking community, right? Or this community of longevity, that their blockages are the teeth, right? So think of like the 32 teeth, I just say 32 circuit breakers. So if you have something along one of those teeth, that circuit breaker could be off. And then we all know what circuit breakers do. The electricity's off, right?

• 16:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:06Speaker 00

  So you're still living, you're still okay. But if we can enhance that, sometimes it's remove all the tooth, clean up the jawbone or do something, change out of metal to something tooth colored. It, it all depends on what the person is.

• 16:16Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I'm pretty excited about this. I've been a coffee drinker all my life. My wife's been a coffee drinker all her life, but a problem I have is that I found mold and mycotoxins in my urine and traced it back to my coffee. That's why I actually created the ultimate brew. Mold-free, tested for heavy metals, pesticides, even the QR code on the bag tells you exactly how you can find the lab results for that coffee bag. Really proud of this. I think it's the cleanest coffee in the world. It's available now exclusively at Sprouts. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  What I find fascinating too, that you've migrated into over the last few years is not just removing the, the cavitations, the small pockets of inflammation that are in the jaw, you've moved towards whole body detox.

• 17:02Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  And that's really, I really want to take the podcast today because, uh, if you haven't seen the previous podcast that we did, we did a very deep dive on these cavitations. And if it's something that you suspect, I would go back and watch that podcast with Dr. Gandhi and I, I'm not going to repeat it here today. But it's worthwhile to take a deep dive on that, that podcast. If you look right here, I'm going to put up a chart, um, this is an image of the nervous innervation in your jaw. And this is, uh, an image of showing all of these nerves and how they're connected to something called the trigeminal nerve. And then they branch out to the rest of the body, not only going up to your brain, creating this communication pathway between your brain, your jaw and the rest of your entire system. Some of them drop straight down into the heart, which is why

• 17:45Speaker 01

  if you look at a lot of these, uh, cardiac anomaly studies, you find the same bacteria in these cavitations that you find in heart disease. And that's not by chance. That's because there's a direct pathway between, between the jaw and, and the heart. And we're starting to realize, and I love this about functional medicine, we're starting to look at people as a system.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  Right? This whole system, that it's not just one thing that deserves one arrow. And that we really need to zoom out and look at the, look at the entire system. And toxicity is at the root of so many autoimmune conditions, of so many consequences of aging, that people don't realize that these underlying pathogens that do not send you to the ER or send you to the urgent care or give you a high fever, which is how we normally think about pathogenic invaders. They, they are the things that I would call low-grade chronic. And they're things that you can quote unquote, live with.

• 18:43Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  You push through.

• 18:44Speaker 00

  A hundred percent. And you live, you live with them for X amount of years, 10, 15, 20 years, right?

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:49Speaker 00

  Acute is something causing pain and you get rid of, get taken care of, but these are all chronic issues. And that's where, like I did the whole shift. Cause I'm like, okay, we need full body health. We, we gotta become health experts. Patients coming in and we gotta figure out what is actually going on with them. Not just jump right into the surgery. Yeah. The, the first day I meet you, that's when the surgery actually started. But we're not touching you for probably a month, some patients, six months, some patients a year.

• 19:14Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 19:14Speaker 00

  Depending on the toxic load and their medical history. And then I have a few doctors in my network, I'll send them to like, okay, we gotta do this detox prior to me touching you. Let's set up the foundation for success.

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:24Speaker 00

  Cause, and revision surgeries happen, right? I see patients who've went to other biological dentists and we're doing revision surgeries and revision's common in orthopedics. But when they come in for revision surgery, it's the same thing. We're going to do the detox prior. Whether you have parasites, mold, bacteria, environmental toxins, we need to get rid of this load. Because what I'm finding more and more, and we look underneath the microscope, you find all these toxins in the mouth. Now, when it's clean, where it's going to go? It's going to go downstream or upstream. If your body's not resilient and protected, we actually just made you worse.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:54Speaker 00

  Right?

• 19:54Speaker 01

  So I want to throw up right here, I want to throw up some images of some of these microscopic images that you were showing me this morning in the hyperbaric, um, of macrophages, your white blood cells, actually physically going after red blood cells that have pathogens inside of them. And this is your immune system actively attacking your cells because they're harboring a villain. And I talk about this a lot with autoimmune, that autoimmune, in my opinion, is not just something you wake up with one day. And all of a sudden you have an autoimmune disease because you lost the luck of the draw, your, your lottery ticket came up. Or you have a quote unquote, family history of it. That's the, the worst, uh, in my opinion. You have this autoimmune condition because something called the immune system to that site.

• 20:39Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  And whether it's heavy metal, mold, mycotoxin, parasite, or virus, which I would categorize as the big five invaders that cause these low-grade infections. This is an actual image of what they look like in live, in real time, going on inside of your jaw. So I want to back up and talk about what do some of these detoxes look like? Cause I'm about to do your liver detox.

• 21:03Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  And I'd like to go specifically through a parasitic detox because a lot of us have parasites.

• 21:09Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  And I think the vast majority of us do, whether they're symptomatic or not.

• 21:14Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 21:15Speaker 01

  And there are some simple parasitic detoxes that you've been able to really do effectively on your patients. You've done it effectively on yourself.

• 21:23Speaker 00

  A hundred percent. That's why I learned it from, I'm not a medical doctor, I'm a dentist, but I learned, I deep down this rabbit hole and haven't come out of it, man. It's very intriguing what you find.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:33Speaker 00

  And what you find that comes out of you. It's not, you know, it's just not, it's poop. It's everywhere.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:38Speaker 00

  It could be in your eyes, it could be your nose, ears. Dr. Simon Yu, Accidental Blow Up is a great book. That's his second book. He has a third book. Read the book, cause he's the one.

• 21:47Speaker 01

  Accidental Blow Up.

• 21:48Speaker 00

  Accidental Blow Up, yeah. He's the one who got me into all this stuff. I studied underneath him. I'm gonna see him in a few weeks. I spent a month with him last year. This year I'll probably spend like six weeks with him. I just love his knowledge and because it goes hand in hand to what I'm doing. So there's different ways of doing all these parasite detox. People talk about it online. Do these cleanses, do that cleanses. Let's say, take a step back. Before you jump in to do something, get it done the right way. Go to a functional medicine doctor and get tested to see what you actually have.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 22:14Speaker 00

  Because I did those herbs and botanicals prior in 2023, and it actually made me worse.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 22:20Speaker 00

  Because we were toxic and it just depended on the toxic load. If you dislodge these worms and they get stuck somewhere else, you're in trouble.

• 22:27Speaker 01

  Right.

• 22:28Speaker 00

  So you need to do a kill dose, basically. So, I mean, I took pharmaceuticals and I treat, you know, some patients like, I don't want to take pharmaceuticals. I wanted the holistic route. I'm like, I don't know if I can help you dental because you need something really strong to actually annihilate these worms.

• 22:41Speaker 01

  So, so can we get specific on what, what the parasitic testing looks like? I mean.

• 22:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, so he.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  Which ones do you use?

• 22:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, so, uh, so Dr. Yu has this whole thing called AMA, so acupuncture meridian assessment. So they're checking the energy source, right? So unfortunately, blood panels and stool tests don't really show stuff, right? That's why it goes hidden. It's chronic. So he's checking wherever there's any low energy along the meridian system. Because it's acupuncture meridian assessment. And from that point on, it's reverse engineered to see what you need with supplements, whether it's herbs, botanicals, or pharmaceuticals. Like me personally, and this is mine, I just, my wife's is different. Everyone else is different. But this is what I tested for was ivermectin, membendazole, prescentol, parental, pomade, and flucanazole. Those are my five that I took. And I, it was a very strong dose, three times a day.

• 23:31Speaker 01

  Three times a day.

• 23:31Speaker 00

  For 21 days. Very strong.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 23:34Speaker 00

  And then one week, the week off was a liver flush, which we were talking about this morning. And then, um.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  I'm about to do this one.

• 23:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then it was another cycle. I mean, and I, I was fine. I was working the whole time. No issues, nothing. I had the runs once because I had bad chicken broth.

• 23:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:48Speaker 00

  So that was why, that was why I'm like, that's gonna, that's gonna affect me.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  You could have actually left that out.

• 23:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, whatever. I like to tell the truth because we know, you know what the biggest thing is? People like, can I, can I actually tolerate this? There's just too many pharmaceuticals.

• 23:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 24:00Speaker 00

  And on top of that, I was taking six botanicals and liquids. So it's 33 things a day.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  So imagine that. But that was for me, right? And when I saw Dr. Yu last year in May, you know, I go, I go to him, I have a book of exams. Like I have all my lab exams. I spent lots of money on everything, right?

• 24:19Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 24:19Speaker 00

  And he's like, what is this? I'm like, this is my, this is me. All my tests, here's DNA, here's everything. So he's testing me and I'm like curious and I was like, dude, like whatever. Before I landed and I tell patients who I refer out to him or Dr. Chaney out in Maryland, like you're gonna get, something's gonna come up prior to you going there. I don't know what it is, but just whatever is crawl there if you have to.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 24:41Speaker 00

  So when I landed off the plane, I call my wife. I'm like, hey, my liver hurts. She's like, you're very specific. I'm like, my liver just hurts. She's like, you probably put your elbow into it. I'm like, no, there's no chance. And then I go see him and he's doing the testing. And I was like, what'd you just do to my liver? Like I feel the energy, like the electricity stuck in my liver. I'm like, what, what's going on? He's like, very bad. Old Asian, right?

• 25:01Speaker 01

  Very bad.

• 25:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's like Kung Fu Panda, the, the Kung Fu Panda. He gets a kick out of it.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:06Speaker 00

  So I'm like, what's going on? He's like, very bad. And he's like, you know, testing, testing. He's better now because of the surgery and all that stuff.

• 25:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:13Speaker 00

  But, uh, he's like, 10 years from now you have cancer. I'm like, bro, you can't tell me that. I, I take 60 supplements, IVs, my basement, you've been to my basement's biohacking facility?

• 25:23Speaker 01

  A whole biohacking.

• 25:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. I was like, I do all these things. You're like, no, you're very sick internally. I'm like, okay. My world dropped. I didn't care about anything at that point. Nothing mattered. Like, what do I gotta do to get better? So he gave me all these things, all the supplements, all that stuff. I'm like, I ain't leaving until I, I get it. Like this is, I'm committed to you.

• 25:40Speaker 01

  Right.

• 25:40Speaker 00

  This is, I drop everything. When I go, I do something, I'm going all in. I'm not doing a half thing.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:45Speaker 00

  This is it. Two months, I'll give it to you. Cause my diet, everything in my life is cleaned up, except internally, I guess now. That's what you're telling me. Cause blood panels weren't showing it. But what I was noticing, my testosterone was dropping over the years.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 25:58Speaker 00

  2024, late 24, 24 is around 291. I'm like, okay, there's something going on. May was 271. And I could, I could give you a lab so you could post them. I'm very public about this. So May last year, when I saw him in 2025, it was 271. Then I see him in October, late September, October. We do the test again and it's 866.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 26:17Speaker 00

  318% jump in testosterone.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  No, uh.

• 26:20Speaker 00

  Nothing else.

• 26:21Speaker 01

  Supplementation.

• 26:21Speaker 00

  No, no supplementation.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  Your poor wife.

• 26:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, just taking.

• 26:25Speaker 01

  He's got a beautiful wife, but she's, she's running from him around.

• 26:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Just, just taking, just taking his stuff. That's it.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  Carol, sorry.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:35Speaker 00

  But that's what it was.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  361, 318.

• 26:39Speaker 00

  18% increase.

• 26:40Speaker 01

  In testosterone, no supplements, just by getting the blockages.

• 26:43Speaker 00

  And then when you go down that rabbit hole and you just type in AI, tell me about parasites and hormones, you'll see they're hormone disruptors.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:49Speaker 00

  I'm like, okay, I already knew metals were hormone disruptors because metal, you know, silver metal fillings, 40, 60% mercury, the nickel, the palladium, aluminum. We're putting that all in the mouth, right? So I already knew those are hormone disruptors. I'm like, parasites? This is interesting. And then I'm pulling them out of people's mouths, worms, you know, and some colleagues think they don't exist because they've been doing longer than me, but.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  I'm gonna show you an image right here.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  But you see those.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  Some of the worms that he has actually pulled out. I actually almost called bullshit on this too, because this worm was so big.

• 27:18Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 27:19Speaker 01

  Then I said, there's no way that thing's folded up in somebody's mouth. But what you explained to me was it burrows down into the fatty tissue.

• 27:25Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 27:25Speaker 01

  And so it's like a spirochete, like almost like a corkscrew, like a wine opener.

• 27:30Speaker 00

  That's literally what it is.

• 27:31Speaker 01

  And it burrows down and it just keeps growing and burrowing and growing and burrowing. And he just pulls these things right out of the jaw and you can still see them. They're alive, they're moving. He puts them under the microscope. I'll show you another image right here, uh, where you can actually see the immune system lighting up to these things.

• 27:50Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  Um, but it has a difficult time getting there because of the compromised blood flow.

• 27:54Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  So, but I want to go back to this liver detox because I'm, I'm gonna do a very specific one with you. It's five days, uh, during the week.

• 28:03Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 28:03Speaker 01

  And then I want to give the specific parameters and anyone that wants to do it with me, you can do it with me. I'll, I'll actually post the whole detox, uh, in the show notes. And then, um, on the weekends, you take the weekends off because you're.

• 28:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, you're gonna be gone. Yeah, especially Sunday, you're gonna be gone. Yeah, it's a five-day prep period and I'll give you, it's Amber's. It's Dr. Yu's office manager. Uh, we have a, she made a nice PDF and it's like outlined in all picture format.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  So what does it look like? What does Monday to Friday look like and what does Saturday, Sunday look like?

• 28:30Speaker 00

  So you're drinking eight ounce cherry juice mixed with 24 ounce of filtered water, right?

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Okay, so 24 ounces.

• 28:36Speaker 00

  All throughout the day. Yeah, you put Ultra Fos in there. Um, eight drops of it. You drink that all throughout.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  You put the Ultra Fos, the top, dark cherry juice, 24 ounces of water, and then you're sort of sipping on this throughout the day.

• 28:45Speaker 00

  Throughout the day, yeah. And you take malic acid in the morning and nighttime. I forgot the exact dosage, but it's on the sheet there.

• 28:49Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:50Speaker 00

  That Monday through Friday. Then Saturday morning, same juice you're drinking again. And then, uh, you're eating rice and berries. That's it. Plain rice and berries.

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:58Speaker 00

  By 1:30. And then six o'clock and eight o'clock, you're doing Epsom salt with lemon. That, that.

• 29:03Speaker 01

  Just a pure organic. I've done that before.

• 29:06Speaker 00

  That doesn't taste too good. Yeah.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  It doesn't taste too good, but it.

• 29:09Speaker 00

  Lights of fire.

• 29:10Speaker 01

  Lights of fire.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, and then 10 o'clock, you're drinking olive oil with grapefruit juice.

• 29:15Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 29:15Speaker 00

  And you're sleeping fetal position. That's the best part of the thing. 20 minutes sleeping fetal position, but then you start feeling the stuff in your, in your liver. You're like, okay, the gallbladder, you say, yeah, things are opening up here. You feel it. And then at 6 a.m. the next day and 8 a.m. and 10 a.m. you're doing the Epsom salt with the, the lemon again.

• 29:31Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 29:31Speaker 00

  And you'll get the runs. Make sure if you only have one bathroom in couples, you know, one do it at a time. Don't, don't do it all together. Uh, but you'll get the runs anywhere from 3 a.m. to 12. Sometimes depending on how much you have going on, you'll keep getting them. Maybe, you know, maybe until next day, but what you see come out is the little sacs there. You see liver flukes. You see everything coming out and, and the energy you feel is just amazing.

• 29:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:54Speaker 00

  You know, this should be part of normal. And again, I'm not a medical doctor. I want to make it that specific so I don't get in trouble with the boards. But this is, you know, this is, I think, something that should be done.

• 30:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. And I think, you know, there are regions of the world that do this on the regular. It's, it's just a part of their life. They do, they do regular semi-annual, annual, uh, or even more frequently, uh, parasitic detoxes.

• 30:15Speaker 00

  But we have borders here.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:18Speaker 00

  I was about to say that.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  But, you know, and they, they do these on the regular and it's just a part of the culture and nobody, but, but here we, we don't seem to have a respect for that toxic load. Um, because again, it's not that thing that causes you to go to the emergency room.

• 30:36Speaker 00

  Well, they just released an article in April about neuroinflammation parasites that might not just be dysbiosis of bacteria. So we'll post that article. Yeah.

• 30:44Speaker 01

  Okay. Where was that published?

• 30:45Speaker 00

  Uh, Journal of, uh, Neuroinflammation.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 30:49Speaker 00

  Or Jour, uh, Neurology, sorry.

• 30:50Speaker 01

  That it might be what?

• 30:52Speaker 00

  That it could be parasitic infections.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 30:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. So they're finally getting to that.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  Well, the, I mean, the links between parasitic infections and cancer, parasitic infections and nodular tumors, um, I think is becoming more and more sound. We're starting to develop not correlated, but causal relationships there and understand the mechanisms that, that could lead to nodular tumors. Um, we also know that turbo cancers, cancer in general is on a parabolic rise right now.

• 31:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  And I think that's multifactorial. It doesn't just point to one thing. Um, but certainly toxic load is a foundational component of these, these issues, which is why I want to talk about it so much on the, on the podcast. So, um, we're going to do this five days of essentially a prep.

• 31:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 31:36Speaker 01

  Um, now I'm assuming that everybody has a, at least a nine to five job. Uh, so those five days.

• 31:43Speaker 00

  Perfectly fine. Eat normal. Yeah. Eating normal.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  Eat normal.

• 31:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's it.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  You're going to work.

• 31:47Speaker 00

  You're going to work.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Picking up your kids.

• 31:48Speaker 00

  You're just going to be a lot. That's it. Because the tart cherries juice and filter water.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  Okay. But that's not going to make you nauseous.

• 31:54Speaker 00

  No, no, because you're sipping it little by little throughout the day.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Okay. So you finish that, then Saturday and Sunday is where things get real.

• 32:00Speaker 00

  Correct. Yeah. You want to make sure you plan not to go anywhere till at least like Sunday, like 2 p.m. or 6 p.m.

• 32:05Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 32:06Speaker 00

  Cause you gotta really prep for it. Like, and, and the timing's very specific.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  Okay. And, um, and then you will see and feel these things flush from your liver. Um, and I just want to say, uh, anecdotally to this, I know dozens of people that have done this exact, uh, detox that you're recommending, including my clinic director, uh, Dr. Carrie Sarda, uh, who I have enormous respect for.

• 32:31Speaker 00

  She is awesome.

• 32:32Speaker 01

  She's amazing. Arguably the top functional OB-GYN in the space.

• 32:36Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  And, and what I love about her is she just has an unquenchable thirst for knowledge. Like she's, she's constantly educating herself. She's constantly going to these seminars. She's constantly getting extra certifications, you know, it's, it's all those acronyms. You don't know what the hell they mean that go behind her name. Um, and, and she just speaks volumes of this. So I'm going to do it. I'm going to document it. I'm going to post it because I think this is just something that really people need to come to grips with and, and be comfortable doing. Hey guys, let me tell you about one of my favorite new hydration drinks. Now this is for distance athletes, HIIT cardio exercisers, people that sweat a lot or exercise intensely. And A Game is a hydration drink. It has eight essential vitamins. It has all of the electrolytes,

• 33:20Speaker 01

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• 33:53Speaker 00

  So like, think about it, right? How do we detox, right? Liver, kidney, right? So we pee, poop, sweat, right? Now you're taking all these supplements and you're doing all these things, but if your liver is all built up, it's sluggish, you're not detoxing.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 34:07Speaker 00

  So that's why this should be at one of the top areas, right? Top part of your journey.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  I mean, the liver is almost the size of a basketball, kind of deflated and tucked up under your rib cage. It's a massive organ. And I, I remember in grad school, um, when we started learning about liver function, the number of things that the liver does. It is like the master of all organ. Incredibly, it can take over the function of other organs if needed. And there are documented cases of people's liver, uh, turning into fatty liver or, or shrinking to the size, the functional size of your thumb and then completely regenerating.

• 34:51Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  Uh, so it is one of the most resilient organs in the body. Um, it has thousands and thousands of functions. And if you want to have one organ on your team, you want to be the liver. I mean, kind of one of all, but you know, you only get to pick one.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  I'll tell you a funny thing. My name, my first name in Farsi means liver.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  Jigar?

• 35:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. It means liver.

• 35:13Speaker 01

  Really?

• 35:14Speaker 00

  It's like the start of life.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  Wow. Liver Gandhi.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  Yeah, Liver Gandhi.

• 35:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. But no, a hundred percent. That's where like to detox.

• 35:21Speaker 01

  That should be your podcast name, dude. Liver Gandhi.

• 35:23Speaker 00

  Liver Gandhi. There you go.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  Dude, I just literally made you a million dollars by, yeah.

• 35:26Speaker 00

  We're going to trademark it quick.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's going to go viral.

• 35:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. But, uh, that's where we start, right? And, and when patients come in, they're like, I'm in pain. I'm in pain. I want this done. I want the dental done. They, they're like, just right away. I'm like, no, no. Recently we had a patient who was like, I know it's my teeth. I know it's my teeth. One root canal, four wisdom teeth needed to come out. I'm like, okay, we're going to see you, but in about two to three months. He's like, no, no, I need it done right away. And he contacted my buddy out in Germany, Dr. Dominic, right? And Tom was like, no, go see Gandhi, right? I'll take care of it. But I'm going to see, I'm going to set up an appointment, go see Dr. You first. So, cause I knew, like, he was just telling me everything that he went through his medical history. I'm like, this sounds a lot like me. Yeah. I know what's going on. And you see thousands of patients, you know, like you could put everything together. And I was like, we'll see Dr. You first. He comes two months later, we do the surgery. A

• 36:14Speaker 00

  few weeks later, he's like, hey, I just pulled a few pair, two parasites out of my nose. I'm like, and I just text him back, welcome to the club.

• 36:20Speaker 01

  He felt him in the.

• 36:21Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 36:22Speaker 01

  And pulled him right out of his nose. You know, I want to talk specifically about a couple of, um, very well-known VIP patients. I won't mention their name, but I want to talk about their, their history because I think it's appropriate when you realize that people at the, um, you know, socioeconomic, high end of the ladder that have access to the most qualified healthcare, people like Dana White. Um, and this is not a story about Dana, but someone like Dana. Uh, and yet they have these symptoms that have gone unresolved. And we have a VIP client that we shared, um, that I'd been seeing for a long time. Got his diet dialed in, got his peptides dialed in, uh, got his hormones dialed in. He's eating great. He's looking

• 37:06Speaker 01

  amazing. And, but he had this nasal drip and he had, um, you know, one side of his nose always just had mucus. He was constantly, constantly blowing his nose. And on that side of his body, his one eye was bloodshot, uh, constantly. And he felt like he didn't have, the vision wasn't quite as clear out of that eye as it was his other eye. But again, nothing major that was derailing his life. He was just blowing his nose all the time. I sent him to see you and it turned out that he had had a perforated maxillary sinus, um, that on the side where he was having all the symptoms was just full of pus and infection, um, parasites. And this

• 37:51Speaker 01

  could have been very traumatic because on the top side of that is.

• 37:54Speaker 00

  Your brain.

• 37:54Speaker 01

  Your brain.

• 37:55Speaker 00

  Less than two centimeters away.

• 37:56Speaker 01

  Right. Yeah. Less than two centimeters away. And on the bottom side of that is the top row of your teeth. And.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  He and I, neither one of us really made the correlation between this cavitation that he had in the jaw. When you went in there, I remember you texting me and thanking me saying, hey, you may have saved his life because this infection was sitting at the base of his brain. And I will tell you that after he had this extraction, had that cavitation cleaned, you did it with red light, did it with ozone. Then you made this gelatinous substance out of his own platelets called platelet-rich fibrin, packed it into the wound. He healed exceptionally well. And now he is completely symptom-free. His eye is bone-white on that side like it is on the other side. He's not blowing his nose anymore. He has no postnasal drip.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  And so just a miraculous, almost overnight turnaround. Then we have a second client, also very, very well-known client who's constantly on television. And we did some lab work on him and his mold toxicity was off the charts. And I had been struggling with him to manage and balance an optimal level of hormones on him. He was not responsive to the normal therapies. HRT with, you know, the normal aromatase inhibitors or DIMA aromatase inhibitors. And I just couldn't put my finger on it. It just didn't make sense to me.

• 39:31Speaker 01

  And so I sent him to you, had a mold toxicity test done. Mold was off the charts. He spends part of his time here in Miami, mold capital of the world. And I know a lot of you live in humid climates or climates where the interior and exterior temperature might be 30 degrees, sometimes 40 degrees difference. You have these humidity barriers and I don't care how good the construction materials have gotten. We've just never been able to really control that moisture barrier. And so we found the mold and he went on about a three-month-long mold detox. His life has completely changed.

• 40:10Speaker 00

  Completely changed. Yeah, I mean, he had some dead teeth in there. You take them out, they're black. Tell me what that is, right? There's gonna be an argument between the societies and dentistry. That's not mold, that's not this. But when you have a mycotoxin test and it says it's mold, it's mold. If something coming out of your mouth is black. If you're in your shower, you look and there's black stuff there, you know, like black mold, right? Aspergillus, we already know it, right? So, and he had a lot of that in his mouth. So no matter what you do, you get them on the pharmaceuticals, any of the mold toxicity stuff, sorry, mold detox, not gonna get better until you get the root cause of it. And that, he had to sacrifice the teeth. They weren't hurting him, but we had that conversation, we'll replace it with ceramic implants, clean up your bone. And he's like, okay, I'm for it. If this is gonna help me, then I'm for it.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, so, but, but very often what happens is this becomes a systemic issue. So I want to go back, we covered the liver detox. I want to go back and talk about a mold detox. What is a classic mold detox protocol look like for you?

• 41:07Speaker 00

  So either Nystatin or Itrachonazole. It's straight to the pharmaceuticals.

• 41:10Speaker 01

  What is it?

• 41:11Speaker 00

  Nystatin. Or Itrachonazole. Straight to, straight to the pharmaceuticals. Because mold, we know, the reason why you have to be on these meds for a longer time, because mold has that capsule, right? So you can attack it, but if it's that hard capsule, yeah, it's not gonna penetrate it. So it's one of those things that you're on it for a longer time and then all of a sudden, you start feeling a difference and you start washing things out, right? A binder's super important too to take at nighttime, right?

• 41:35Speaker 01

  What kind of binders are you, zeolite, charcoal?

• 41:38Speaker 00

  I like zeolite. Yeah, charcoal just sometimes makes me bloated. So zeolite doesn't do it. I like the zeolite powder. I use that.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  And where do you take it? Distance from meals and?

• 41:47Speaker 00

  About an hour. Yeah, they say two hours. I take it about an hour.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  After?

• 41:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, after a meal.

• 41:52Speaker 01

  Okay, so you just don't waste the meal and bind?

• 41:55Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 41:55Speaker 01

  All the nutrients?

• 41:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, or if you're taking any hormones or any pills at nighttime, wait another hour to two hours. You should wait two hours if you can, but just depending on when you're eating and when you want to stop your whole digestive system.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  So what does a, what does a healthy systemic mold detox look like? So pharmaceuticals first, which by the way are not the gut bacteria destroying antibiotics. These are specific to.

• 42:18Speaker 00

  Correct. Yeah, and there's no gut bacteria. So what, what I've learned is parasites are smarter than humans. They just are. They've been with us. They are.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  I take great offense to that.

• 42:29Speaker 00

  It sucks, but their hierarchy, right? So if you go after them first, you're punching holes in that biofilm. And then as soon as you start doing that, the mold and the metals start to release. Right? So you go after the hierarchy first. If we just go after environmental toxins, metals, which is super important, right? Mold as well, but if we're just keeping the, the ones that are hierarchy.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  The kingpin.

• 42:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. So there is just something, and I showed you that slide and we could post that too. We just squished one of the worms, right?

• 42:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:57Speaker 00

  And just looked at it under micro. I was curious. My assistant did that. I'm like, why'd you squish it, right? She's like, what are we gonna do with it? I'm like, I don't know.

• 43:05Speaker 00

  First thing I want to let go of my finger, that was an interesting thing. I was like.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  It wouldn't let go of you?

• 43:09Speaker 00

  No, it was like stuck to my glove. It wouldn't let go.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Really?

• 43:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was like the whole stringy. It wouldn't let go.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  You were holding that up?

• 43:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was attached to my finger. Yeah. I guess because I did the cleanse, now they're attached to me or something. I don't know what it is. But we squished it and I looked at it under the microscope. I'm like, this looks like the galaxy. This looks, it's insane. And then Elon posted the Mars rover from NASA. And you look at it, I'm like, whoa. If I looked at that on their dark field, it looked the same, identical.

• 43:36Speaker 01

  They did. We looked at that in the hyperbaric this morning. I'll put that, I'll put that image up right here so you can see it.

• 43:41Speaker 00

  But yeah, to attack it, I mean, 20, 21 days is usually, and I do call in, like, there's an article too, which we should post as well for all the dentists to know that bacteria and mold go one-to-one ratio in the mouth. So majority of times, whenever there's a dental infection, here's an antibiotic, but what about the fungal medication? So it's a one-to-one. I get a lot of calls from insurance companies and the pharmacy, why'd you call in Nystatin or Itrachonazole to your dentist? I'm like, well, here's the article, here's the reason why. If the tooth is black, like they need an antifungal.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Right? But that's one of the things that we have to also understand, like there's a science behind it.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  So, so, so then back to this mold detox, we start with the fungal pharmaceuticals, right? Which are helping to dismantle these biofilms, essentially what, what these organisms secrete to protect themselves. So the immune system doesn't see them, right? And so they're causing this low-grade infection, this, this low-grade systemic inflammatory response. But the immune system's not really locked in on them because they basically secrete and surround themselves with what we call biofilm. And it's this coating, sort of soft gelatinous coating, and they hide inside of there. You know, it's like, you don't look for a burglar in your home, but they're buried in your laundry basket or something, hide in your closet. And so you have to unmask them.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  And so these antifungals will help to dissolve these biofilms, unmask them. And then what do the stages of removal look like? Are you a fan of sauna?

• 45:12Speaker 00

  Hundred percent sauna, yeah.

• 45:14Speaker 01

  I am too.

• 45:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely. 20 minutes is more than enough. Sauna, 160 degrees, 170 degrees.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, we were in there last night?

• 45:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was great. It was great, yeah.

• 45:22Speaker 01

  I taught him my, my sleep hack.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  It works better than the Vegas nerve simulator. It really does, yeah. It's like I saw my stats this morning. I'm like, wow.

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, so we did a 20-minute dry sauna, got really hot, and then I have a 61-degree cold plunge, so maybe call it a cool plunge. So it's not that cold. And we just did one minute in there. Not enough to spike the dopamine and norepinephrine and wake you up and give you that spike that you get after a normal cold plunge. This is just to reset your body temperature. And we both went in there, dunked, stayed in there for about a minute, got out, dried off, and then we both went straight to bed. If you are one of those ruminators, like really have ruminating thoughts at night, your mind races, your body tired, but your mind awake, what they call wired or tired, wired and tired.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  That is a great hack for you. If you have a sauna, you can also do it with hot and cold water in the shower, right? Stand there, run the water on your back as hot as you can stand it. Step out of that stream of water, turn it as cold as it will go, step back into the stream of water and just deal with it.

• 46:26Speaker 00

  Nice, that's a good hack.

• 46:27Speaker 01

  For 30 seconds. It's a great hack.

• 46:28Speaker 00

  Yeah, when you're traveling, yeah.

• 46:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. So we both had good, good sleeps last night.

• 46:32Speaker 00

  Very good sleep. Yeah, very good sleep. And then metals, right? Metals is another thing, right? So how do we get rid of metals, right? One of the things we have to be careful of, if there's any, like we go back to the dental part of it. If there's any dental work that was done, whether it's root canals, dead teeth in the mouth, any metals you have, right? You can do a metal detox, but if you still have metals, you're just pulling stuff out and you actually make yourself more toxic, right? Because it gets into the skin. Now you made yourself worse. So sometimes the dental detox, meaning removal, repair work is sometimes the biggest detox of the patient's life. And that's why we're seeing like the clients you send over, it's one of the reasons why. They're like, all of a sudden, like, you know, everything that they were taking, that's the foundation. And now it just accelerated their healing.

• 47:17Speaker 00

  But if they didn't do that prior to seeing me, we wouldn't begin those results. That's why I took a step back and not just diving deep into the dentistry right away. Oh, we'll see you next week or we'll see you in five, like, you know, two, three weeks, whatever it is, next opening. Now let's take a step back and let's really figure this out. Because if we want to really optimize your health, we have to do it at stages.

• 47:36Speaker 01

  What are some of your go-to metal tests? I've used the Vibrant Total Toxicity Test. I've also done, can't remember the name of it right now.

• 47:45Speaker 00

  Aligo Scan?

• 47:45Speaker 01

  Aligo Scan. Yeah, Aligo Scan, which is a palm scan with infrared light. And, and what it does is it actually spots the metal in the tissue. It's painless. It doesn't even break the skin. It's just a light. Essentially what it does is it picks up the metal that's in the tissues, not just in your blood. Because remember, a lot of times it's parasites, these viruses, these metals, mold, fungi. They're not just hanging out in the blood waiting for the immune system to get rid of them. They, they embed themselves into the tissue.

• 48:13Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  And they're sort of hidden and they're causing this low-grade inflammatory condition. And because you might not be able to pick them up on a standard test. The first urine test with Vibrant, I've used with a lot of success.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  The Aligo Scan is really good too, because it'll measure the mold. And I've even done what's called a provoked heavy metal where you, you go to a clinic and you have them do a chelation.

• 48:38Speaker 00

  DMPS and then you're doing that.

• 48:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, DMPS. And that pulls everything out of the tissue. What was fascinating about that is I'd recently done a urine test for metals and all my metals were within the range. Then I did this provoked test where they pull the metal out of the tissue, dump it into the blood. And you see your urine levels of these heavy metals go

• 48:58Speaker 00

  It will.

• 48:59Speaker 01

  Off the charts. And that was a real wake-up call for me too. Because it's a little bit of detective work, you know, to find these things. There's not like one test fits all. But do you have any go-to tests that you?

• 49:12Speaker 00

  There's another one, TriTest from Quicksilver.

• 49:14Speaker 01

  TriTest from Quicksilver?

• 49:15Speaker 00

  But I like the DNPS test.

• 49:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 49:17Speaker 00

  The provocation test. I really like that because we can, again, we're, we're sponges. We absorb everything, right? Toxic load. So when the DNPS pulls out, it's like, okay, let's attack that. Let's attack that. Let's attack that. Keep pulling, keep pulling, right?

• 49:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 49:31Speaker 00

  Because if not, it's not going to show up on these tests.

• 49:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 49:34Speaker 00

  So that's why I prefer the DNPS test on chelation.

• 49:37Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 49:37Speaker 00

  But before, I did do a metal cleanse with Dr. Pampa and that's really helped me out. Like, it took me a year to almost complete it. I just had so much mercury toxicity.

• 49:45Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 49:45Speaker 00

  You know, it's just like I would have these shakes and I showed you photos of me in 2015. You know, that's me being a dentist for less than 10 years.

• 49:53Speaker 01

  Right.

• 49:53Speaker 00

  And then now you see the transition and it's all the toxic load.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  Well, you think about all those, those metals that you're vaporizing and you're drilling them out. Um, you know, and you're just basically creating that vapor and I know you wear a mask, but.

• 50:05Speaker 00

  Come on, ASM3 mask. We know it doesn't do nothing. It's for show. It really is for show. I mean, and plus.

• 50:11Speaker 01

  Oh, world war and COVID and I was like, guys, you're, you're trying to trap water in a cargo net. If you do the micron size of a virus, the micron size of that mask.

• 50:21Speaker 00

  And when you think of it, it's like when we were using the laser to clean up the, the jawbone, these are aerosols. Like a lot of my dental friends are sick. They're really sick and they still don't get it about the detox. Like if you're cleaning someone's jawbone out, you're cleaning some of the deadliest pathogens in there.

• 50:36Speaker 01

  Right.

• 50:36Speaker 00

  And then where, where are they going to go? They're going in the air, you're breathing them in. So if you're not doing detox, you're not taking care of yourself, you're doing the worst thing.

• 50:42Speaker 01

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• 51:25Speaker 01

  And you can use code ULTIMATE for 10% off and start training smarter today. Now let's get back to the Ultimate Human Podcast. Imagine dentists are probably good patients for you, but dentists don't like to go see other dentists.

• 51:37Speaker 00

  No, they don't like to see other dentists.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  So, uh, so metal detox for you looks like a provoke test to find out, you know, what the levels were. Then you find the levels are high. Um, and what are your go-tos for metal removal in the body?

• 51:52Speaker 00

  DMSA.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  DMSA, DMSA.

• 51:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:55Speaker 01

  Not DMSO, that's a preservative, right?

• 51:57Speaker 00

  That's preservative, yeah. DMSA. Uh, when you have, uh, metals and you take chlorophyll, if you have metals in your mouth. Oh, sorry, not chlorophyll, chlorella. Yeah, it makes it worse because you're pulling the metals. Like people will chew chlorella and we, we do that anytime we're removing metal fillings. We put chlorella around it. If they have no metal fillings left, we should put it all around the mouth. But you have to be very careful because it's going to pull and it's going to get into the tissue. Brain's right above, right? So it's a neurotoxin. We, you know, we all know if you type in, go to the, the websites and you'll, you'll see mercury, right? So that's a problem. So you want to be very cautious of that. So.

• 52:33Speaker 01

  So do you use chlorella or chlorophyll or?

• 52:36Speaker 00

  Uh, we use chlorella. Once everything is all cleaned out.

• 52:39Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 52:39Speaker 00

  So then we give the patient the tabs to take and everything.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 52:42Speaker 00

  But prior to it, we do set them up on binders. So we want to take like zeolite. So it starts binding to the metals already in their system. Then we clean this up. Even though we're doing all the, the protocols to protect them, all these like five different suctions and all these thing gadgets that we have to make sure everyone stays safe. It's still in the air. It's still there. No matter what. It's very hard to get rid of it a hundred percent.

• 53:05Speaker 01

  Right.

• 53:05Speaker 00

  Right? So now that's when we use the chlorella, bind the rest of it inside the tooth itself and then refill it.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Okay. But for, um, when they find metals in their urine, metals in their blood, and what do we do next? DMSA. So this is an oral chelation.

• 53:19Speaker 00

  Oral chelation.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  Um, I'll put a link to some brands that maybe you recommend if you have any.

• 53:24Speaker 00

  There's different timings. I think Andrew Cutler's protocol or something like that, Andrew's protocol.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:28Speaker 00

  If they look that up, they, it's like timing wise, it's super important, like how they time it.

• 53:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I wrote a eight week and 12 week mold and metal detox. But always when I have guests on, experts like yourself, I like to add, you know, different tests, newer tests. And, and certainly if there's any better ways to do what we're already doing, I, I just want to bring that to the forefront.

• 53:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I agree. Yeah. And that's helped me. Like I take that as my chelation, right?

• 53:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:54Speaker 00

  It just helps it continuously.

• 53:55Speaker 01

  So I'll make sure in the show notes that I kind of break this out. Mold, metal, um, parasites. Yeah. So, so that you don't have to do all these at one time, but, um, just selecting a time when you're going to say, okay, I'm going to start doing this detox for mold. I'm going to do this detox for parasites. I like what you were saying about parasites being at the top of the hierarchy. I never really thought about it that way. So maybe beginning with the liver flush and addressing the, the parasites and unblocking that phase one and phase two liver, liver detoxification pathways. Because your best way of getting anything toxic out of the body is to use your own natural detoxification pathways. Stool, urine, sweat and liver.

• 54:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  Phase one, phase two. And if you unblock that phase one and phase two detox of the liver, it's not just the metals it's going to help you with. Remember, it's cleaning out everything.

• 54:49Speaker 00

  It's cleaning out everything, a hundred percent.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  Everything else becomes more efficient.

• 54:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. And make sure it's guided. You have someone guiding you, right? You know, it's super important because some of these can, you, you can go overload and you don't want to detox too quickly, right? It's a journey. I tell every patient, you're not going to get better. It's going to take two months, three months, six months, a year. If you were sick, like one of the patients that we were talking about earlier, I mean, he had a bad diet growing up, 40 years. It's not going to be an overnight thing, but within a year, because we started last year, October with him. And within less than a year, look at him, totally different.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:21Speaker 00

  Right? And, but, but it takes time. It's a journey. And then all of a sudden the body's getting better. If you detox too quick, you're going to be six feet under, right?

• 55:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 55:28Speaker 00

  Your body can't handle it, right?

• 55:29Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 55:30Speaker 00

  The other thing is environmental toxins, right? The, I, I love the vibrant wellness tox panel. I think that's really good.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  I do too.

• 55:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, for me personally, I, I don't know why I'm susceptible to the Roundup glyphosate. Like for me, like golf courses are around. We have two golf courses near us, like less than a mile, mile and a half away. And the neighbor's spraying Roundup everywhere. So no matter what I do, it's always showing up high and like very elevated, almost eight times elevated than normal amount.

• 55:56Speaker 01

  You know what I want to do? I'm actually going to show my, um, pre and post, uh, vibrant toxicity panel because I did one early in the year. And this is before I did the in-use pharesis. So it's important because I know a lot of folks don't have the time, the money or the wherewithal to go to Switzerland and do these, you know, fancy, um, blood filtrations. But I was able to get 90% of the way there, um, in terms of detoxing from, uh, the metals, the glyphosate. I had, uh, aflatoxin, aflatoxin A, um, ochratoxin. So the, the real common, um, mold and fungal infections that a lot of people have.

• 56:39Speaker 01

  And then of course the heavy metals that a lot of people have, which in most cases is coming from their drinking water. And their, and their mold is actually coming from their coffee.

• 56:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  I traced mine right back to the coffee and I also traced it back to these, um, I eat a lot of nuts. So I had these glass jars of stored nuts.

• 56:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:58Speaker 01

  And what I didn't realize was I would refill them, then I would eat them down. And when it got to that bottom 20%, I refill it again. So that sort of bottom 20% was never getting fixed. And when I started like trying to hunt around and figure out the, the jet fuel and the flame retardants was coming from my mattress, which is the whole reason why I founded the Ultimate Snus, um, because of the, um, outcasting of those flame retardants. And I was like, where am I getting ochratoxin A and aflatoxin?

• 57:28Speaker 00

  That's why I stopped eating nuts because I had a bad experience. I had one week of eating cashews. I was just like, what is wrong with me?

• 57:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:35Speaker 00

  And I was like, my wife's like, you got a fungal infection. What are you talking about? She's like, you're just eating a whole bag of cashews all day long. She's a hundred percent right.

• 57:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:43Speaker 00

  I had this cough, just. Just angry.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:46Speaker 00

  Angry. Cause it messes with your nervous system.

• 57:49Speaker 01

  Could be menopause too.

• 57:50Speaker 00

  Not yet, not yet. But it it just messes with your nervous system.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. So I I I started inventorying everything, you know, I'm a scientist and I'm like data science. I'm like, where where where am I getting this? And uh, um, cause I, you know, I've taken care of my air, my lighting, my water. And I'm like, man, I'm getting this paralysis of analysis, you know, maybe I'm overthinking it. And and then I went into the cabinet and I saw all the things of macadamias and and the the the shelled pistachios. And I got down to the bottom and you could actually see the little mole growing down there at the very bottom. And I was like, oh, dang, that's where it came from.

• 58:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:30Speaker 01

  So note to self, but what I did was I I went deep down the rabbit hole of detoxing from mold, uh, metals, uh, and things like glyphosate and some of these environmental toxins. And I wrote an eight-page detox for mold and then, uh, I mean, eight week and a 12-week for for heavy metals. Give you the exact protocol in there. It's all free. But I'll show you my toxic zoomer before and after. Then I went and did inuse for recess, but but the point that I want to make is I really got 90% of the way there without doing anything super expensive. I don't think I spent more than maybe 90 bucks a month. And of course, sauna.

• 59:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  Which if you don't have one, you can access in a.

• 59:15Speaker 00

  Or you get those blankets, right?

• 59:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, so on blanket. Yeah, a lot, a lot of, so there there are low-cost ways to get your stool, urine and sweat going and to get rid of things and open up the liver.

• 59:27Speaker 00

  Even so, we take it back, like even when you're eating all those nuts, right? You're you're still okay, right? The human body is so resilient.

• 59:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:34Speaker 00

  But we want better. We're trying to, it's all about optimizer.

• 59:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, my audience wants to be like. The best of the best, they want it all.

• 59:40Speaker 00

  Exactly. So and that's the goal, live to 120, right? Or 150 now, whatever, you know?

• 59:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's something just health span. Yeah. Bright, bright skin, clear thought, no brain fog.

• 59:49Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 59:49Speaker 01

  You know, that positive aggression towards life.

• 59:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. And here's a hack for glyphosate. One of my buddies, Dr. Tel, he's out in Germany. So he does the same thing with Dr. Yu and Dr. Chaney do. So if you're out on that side of the world, go see him. So he basically told me, he's like, hey, get, um, glycine. Glycine binds the same receptor site as glyphosate. Glyphosate binds that receptor site. So if you have more glycine in your body, the glyphosate has nowhere to go. So I started taking five grams of glycine and I'll give you the the photo of it and you could see the molecular structure, both of them are very identical. So as soon as you bind that receptor site, all the things started to wash out of me. So you become more resilient to it. Cause that's what I was dealing with a lot of glyphosate poisoning.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  So what what what was the binder?

• 1:00:30Speaker 00

  Glycine. So I take glycine.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:00:32Speaker 00

  So I take five, yeah, five grams.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  Huge for the gut.

• 1:00:34Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:35Speaker 00

  And then all of a sudden, I'm not bloated anymore. Like, oh.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:00:38Speaker 00

  Cause the glyphosate just walking on it outside barefoot, you know, I want to ground. So I walk there, but if the neighbor sprayed something, it's like I get, you know, the toxicity.

• 1:00:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. The, uh, and I tell my audience to to ground all the time. So that's another way it can get into the body. The the the other thing about the glycine is it helps to, um, tighten the junctions in the wall of the gut. And I have probably had a dozen guests, including two yesterday. And I don't know if these podcasts have aired yet, but one was with Dr. Pearl Mutter.

• 1:01:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:09Speaker 01

  Who wrote.

• 1:01:09Speaker 00

  He's awesome.

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:10Speaker 00

  I remember those books.

• 1:01:11Speaker 01

  Gut Brain Connection. I read that in 2014.

• 1:01:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:14Speaker 01

  Started our clinic journey in 2016. That was a big tipping point for me. Uh, Grain Brain, Gut Brain Connection. And was my first introduction to leaky gut.

• 1:01:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:26Speaker 01

  And glyphosate like loosens these.

• 1:01:29Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:01:30Speaker 01

  Fissures in the wall of the gut. And glycine, uh, tightens them again. So I I've had dozens of functional medicine experts and gut experts recommend that, you know, that glycine. So you take five grams in the morning.

• 1:01:42Speaker 00

  I just put in my protein powder, just drink it. It's tasteless.

• 1:01:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:46Speaker 00

  So it's fine and it just helps me throughout the day and I feel the difference.

• 1:01:50Speaker 01

  So, um, somebody is in middle America, somewhere they, um, I feel like we've given plenty of great tips for detoxification and all the ones that you talk about, I'm going to put in the show notes. How do they find a biologic dentist? Or where can they go to get a cone beam x-ray? Because it's different. It's different than that one they bring down with the big.

• 1:02:12Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, 100%. Those are the smaller ones that they take.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  Yeah. That you bite down and they take the x-ray of your teeth. What you're talking about is a 360-degree view.

• 1:02:19Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  On the face. And and it's almost like an MRI. It it can show these three-dimensional.

• 1:02:26Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  Cavitations.

• 1:02:28Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:02:28Speaker 01

  You know, pockets.

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  It'll show us the whole bone anatomy so that we could determine what's going on there, right? So determine if we need to treat the area or not to treat it. So most likely some dentist in the area will have a cone beam Midwest, they'll probably have to drive a little bit.

• 1:02:41Speaker 01

  Calling around.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, you call around, you find out they have a cone beam, they're willing to take it and then send it out to somebody, right? Now, the biggest problem with biological dentistry and it's a huge problem, who do you go to, right? Uh, there's a bunch of, you know, it it's become a thing where it's like they take a certificate, they take a course on a biological dentist, they do this, they do that. The pro, the training needs to be there, right? It's a bunch of reps, right? Uh, Dr. Dominic Nishewicz, he has the whole BGS group, Biological Global Standard, Biological Global Standard. So we're trying to standardize it to make sure like, okay, have you done a, have you done X amount of cases? Have you done this? Have you done this? So then patients can go on the lit, on the website and be like, okay, this person has done this, this person has done this. How many cases have they done? And to get qualified to move on, move on to next slide.

• 1:03:25Speaker 01

  Is there a repository for that where I could send people to?

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, we'll, we'll put a, it's not done completely yet, but at least the patient, the clients or whoever wants to look at it can see the link.

• 1:03:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:03:35Speaker 00

  And then determine it because there's so many different groups and so many people dividing. And that's the biggest thing, right? So, uh, I train a lot of dentists, they shadow, I show them what I do. Cause you gotta combine everything. I mean, I spent like 15 plus years studying this stuff and I still study it, right? I go travel the world to study it. But who's implementing what, right? And and sometimes we have to put what we have in our head aside and be like, okay, why are they doing that?

• 1:03:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:03:59Speaker 00

  What's the reason? Let me go implement what they're doing, you see the results. Because some, our brain gets in the way, especially as doctors, it's like gets in the way, it's like, no, no, this is the only way. But you gotta step outside of that box. So it's very important to find the right qualified biological dentist. Even biological dentistry, I'm a general dentist, so there's no such thing as biological dentistry at the end of the day, right?

• 1:04:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:04:17Speaker 00

  This is an additional education that we take. And I just separated myself and this is what I look at. I look at the tooth body approach, look at every tooth and connected to the different areas of the body.

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's one more thing I want to land before we wind things down today and and that is veneers.

• 1:04:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:35Speaker 00

  Who are you talking about?

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  Uh, I've got members of my staff in the back and they're like, can you tell that I have veneers? And he's like, yep, this one, this one, this one.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  And again, I don't want to send like ridiculous shockwaves because you just sometimes even I'm online and I see people, uh, saying, well, you can't even put a banana with blueberries because the banana counteracts the blueberries. And people just want to give up, right? They're like, okay, now I can't get veneers, you know? It's like, um, next thing, I can't wear earrings, you know? Um, so this is not something that, um, I I want to use as a scare tactic, but when when you have a veneer, right? And you grind the tooth down. And then you create this junction between a synthetic composite and the actual, um, living part of the tooth. Cause that part of the tooth is still alive.

• 1:05:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, the dentin enamel is still there.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  But you didn't do a root canal on that.

• 1:05:30Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:05:30Speaker 01

  It's a, it's a living tooth. So now you create this bond and that can also be a fertile breeding ground.

• 1:05:37Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  For, uh, fungus, mold, mycotoxins. It's just like, if you look at the corner of your showers and you wonder, how do I have tile? And then I have this caulking and, you know, sometimes the caulking is white or it's clear and you can actually see the.

• 1:05:54Speaker 00

  Underneath it.

• 1:05:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, underneath it is where these fungal infections grow. There's no difference between that and your mouth, right? It's dark, it's moist, it's oxygen deprived, it's a perfect fertile ground. You're, you're, you're, you know, you've got air coming in over these areas. So, um, where do you land on veneers? If someone has veneers, what is a way to check to see if they have any kind of infection or buildup?

• 1:06:18Speaker 00

  Well, you shine a light to it, right? We have those high-power lights and you check around the margins where the veneer is sitting and the front area, the back of the tooth as well, to see if there's any pocketing or any discoloration. If there's discoloration, the cement wash out. So that needs to be repaired, right? Unfortunately, if the tooth is already shaved, there's nothing else you can move forward, right?

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:06:37Speaker 00

  It's like you have to replace the veneer or do a full coverage crown on it.

• 1:06:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:06:40Speaker 00

  Do they leak over time? It's gonna wash out. Cement is gonna wash out, just like the the bathtub analogy. That's what I use as well. It's like you have the caulking, it's not gonna last you 15, 20 years. It's gonna, you're gonna have to go back there and replace the caulking, right?

• 1:06:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:52Speaker 00

  Same thing with veneers, you're gonna have to replace them. Aesthetically, they look beautiful, you know, if you want to enhance their images. But there's a right way and a wrong way, right? You have to find the right cosmetic dentist to do them.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:07:01Speaker 00

  And, uh, but if people want them, they want them, right? It's hard to say no. A lot of patients come to see me.

• 1:07:07Speaker 01

  Dude, it's your face.

• 1:07:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, they they come see me, they're like, I want veneers. I'm like, wait, let's take a step back. You know, there's other ways to achieve your results, but it just takes a little longer. If you're willing to take a little bit longer and slower approach, then you don't shave the tooth down. Because anytime you take a drill to a tooth, like if the tooth is already injured or has to be restored or repaired, repaired, right? Then there's no choice. But if it's a virgin tooth and you take a drill to it, it's creating micro cracks in there. Now they want to use lasers, they want to do all this, but anytime, why are you messing with enamel if it's beautiful? Right? So leave it alone. If we can reshape the tooth, move in a different direction, it's a lot easier, but takes longer.

• 1:07:42Speaker 01

  Okay. So you, you, your preference would be to reshape the smile, save what's there.

• 1:07:49Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Maybe, um, where do you, where do you fall on like tooth whitening?

• 1:07:54Speaker 00

  So whitening, I personally use, my teeth are sensitive. I bleached when I was 17, I'm 42 now. I still pay the price for sensitive teeth.

• 1:08:01Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:08:02Speaker 00

  It's one of those things, I just wanted my bright, my teeth to be really bright for the summer. It was just stupid, right?

• 1:08:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:08Speaker 00

  But I use charcoal. So I use, just buy those, but now this is also abrasive, so you gotta be very careful when you're brushing your teeth or else you're gonna cause more sensitivity.

• 1:08:17Speaker 01

  Nice and light.

• 1:08:17Speaker 00

  Nice and light in the shower, so it doesn't make a mess. Five, 10 minutes a day, you do this for like close to 20, 30 days and you see the difference.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:08:25Speaker 00

  So I use that personally. Bleaching does work, like carbon my peroxide does work. In-office bleaching is great. We get beautiful results for patients. It's an in-and-out procedure, right? But me personally, I can't do it, right? Because my teeth are sensitive. Even I can't use the trays. The home trays are really, work really well as well. They're very low-grade, but even the the low-grade of high, uh, carbon my peroxide, my teeth are still sensitive with that.

• 1:08:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:08:47Speaker 00

  So that's why I use.

• 1:08:48Speaker 01

  But it's so in the, in the whole realm of teeth whitening, because you can go down the kit aisle and CVS.

• 1:08:54Speaker 00

  Oh, there's so many.

• 1:08:54Speaker 01

  And there's so many. And in the back of my mind, I gotta be thinking, some of these are just very powerful, harsh chemicals.

• 1:09:00Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:09:00Speaker 01

  That may give you an immediate result, but you might cause permanent damage to.

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  With sensitivity.

• 1:09:04Speaker 01

  Your enamel. What are, what are some whitening kits that people could do at home, maybe that you're a fan of?

• 1:09:12Speaker 00

  The charcoal, charcoal, yeah, yeah. That's what I think that's the, that's the cheapest because you can buy a whole tab for like 10 bucks.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:09:19Speaker 00

  And then just open up the capsule, use your brush in there and just dip it. Use a separate brush, but do it in the shower.

• 1:09:23Speaker 01

  Huge.

• 1:09:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's, I think it's the cheapest way to do it, but if you brush really hard, you're going to hurt yourself. And it's going to become abrasive, you're going to be sensitive and you just did worse than actually going to get a whitening.

• 1:09:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:09:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, you want to be cautious on that.

• 1:09:35Speaker 01

  Okay, so maybe your first choice would be just call your dentist and go get a whitening in the office.

• 1:09:40Speaker 00

  Exactly, because you get a cleaning done too, because if you, you can't whiten dirt, right?

• 1:09:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:09:44Speaker 00

  If your teeth are dirty and you haven't had a cleaning in a while, first go get a cleaning done. Then talk to Dennis about the, which avenue you want to take.

• 1:09:52Speaker 01

  Okay, Dr. Gani, just wealth of knowledge, man.

• 1:09:56Speaker 00

  Thank you, man.

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  I love having you on the Ultimate Human Podcast, and I think every time that we repeat this episode, I learn something new, my audience learns something new. We've got a lot of stuff to pack into these show notes.

• 1:10:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:08Speaker 01

  My VIPs are

• 1:10:10Speaker 00

  Appreciate it, man.

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  Excited to talk to you.

• 1:10:12Speaker 00

  I, I just love how we transitioned this way, man.

• 1:10:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:10:15Speaker 00

  And Dennis, he's taken a whole turn, I think, in the next five, 10 years, it's going to be a different perspective.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, you know, I think we are really, functional medicine, root cause medicine is really highlighting the need for us to look at the whole person.

• 1:10:30Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:10:30Speaker 01

  You know, I often talk about how I don't believe that the body has multiple systems fail.

• 1:10:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:36Speaker 01

  At the same time.

• 1:10:37Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:10:38Speaker 01

  You know, usually one domino falls and, and then everything else goes. And if you can start standing those dominos up, meaning you can get back to, what was the original infection? What called the immune system?

• 1:10:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:48Speaker 01

  Why do I have this low-grade inflammatory process? Instead of just treating inflammation, you know, we, we can get back and find out. And I, and I love that now there's a lot more mainstream conversation about mold, mycotoxins, parasites, viruses, heavy metals. When we started talking about this 12 years ago, we were completely

• 1:11:06Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, you got, you got destroyed. We couldn't even talk about it before, but we knew it was there.

• 1:11:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:11Speaker 00

  I haven't seen it for years, but you couldn't talk about it.

• 1:11:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I used to have shouting matches with doctors telling me that like, everybody has mold and mold lives in our body. We've had a relationship with mold for centuries.

• 1:11:20Speaker 00

  I've gotten that too.

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  Vilinizing it, but, but now, you know, the miraculous turnarounds that have happened in my own life, my family's life, lives of a lot of my VIP clients, there's just no

• 1:11:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:35Speaker 01

  Uh, no guessing anymore.

• 1:11:37Speaker 00

  Thank you, man.

• 1:11:37Speaker 01

  So, uh, we're going to jump over into the VIPs, but as always, I end all my podcasts by finishing with the same question. You know it's coming.

• 1:11:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:11:45Speaker 01

  Um, what does it mean to you to be an ultimate human?

• 1:11:48Speaker 00

  So this has transitioned, man. Yeah, you know, it's, I've become way more spiritual because of these surgeries I do.

• 1:11:55Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:11:55Speaker 00

  Insane amount of spirituality, man. You, you, you just understand the human body and the connection more and more. The more surgery I do, the connection I build. While I'm doing the surgery itself, patient's asleep, but I see the heart monitors, I see what's going on. It's fully optimizing the person and it's really from head to toe, just let's nail everything and give the person their life back.

• 1:12:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, so.

• 1:12:18Speaker 01

  So would you say you've become more of a believer in the quantum, connecting to source?

• 1:12:24Speaker 00

  Connecting to source, Jesus, everything, yeah.

• 1:12:27Speaker 01

  Love that, man. Well, I've also often said faith is medicine.

• 1:12:30Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  You know, community and connection is medicine.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  And at the end of the day, it's like, we gotta look at what healers, we're servants of God, you know, we're doing this for a reason. I just, you know, you just keep getting pushed forward and forward and I'm not going to stop.

• 1:12:41Speaker 01

  That's amazing, man. Well, thanks for coming on the Ultimate Human Podcast.

• 1:12:44Speaker 00

  Appreciate it.

• 1:12:45Speaker 01

  Guys, until next time, that's just science.