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Ashe

Armchair Expert with Dax Shepard

Hosted by Dax Shepard

2h 10m
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Summary

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This episode features singer-songwriter Ash discussing her career, her struggles with anxiety and trauma, and her upcoming album, The Girl of Your Dreams. Dax Shepard and Monica Padman talk with her about meeting at Phineas's wedding, navigating social status and boundaries, and the impact of childhood trauma on adult nervous systems. Ash also performs her new song, Stop the Wedding, live in the studio.

  • Ash uses writing as a private space to process her life away from the chaos of her family. 48:27
  • Setting firm boundaries and learning to ignore inappropriate requests protects personal energy. 19:18
  • Recognizing that past trauma does not mean current incapacity helps in managing panic and anxiety. 38:49
  • Focussing on the positive process of creating art rather than the end goals of fame makes the work sustainable. 1:00:32

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Intro, Ads, and Guest Introduction

    Hosts introduce the show, guest Ash, and sponsor ads while setting the episode’s tone.

  2. 3:07
    Ash's Music and Album Highlights

    Discussion of Ash’s musical career, albums, and a live performance preview.

  3. 4:19
    Wedding Encounter and Social Dynamics

    Hosts recount meeting Ash at a wedding, the social dynamics, and their impressions.

  4. 8:04
    Boundaries, Privacy, and Social Media

    Exploration of personal boundaries, privacy concerns, and social media interactions in a social setting.

  5. 9:46
    Personal Life, Cycles, and Hormonal Awareness

    Conversation about menstrual cycles, fertility, and personal experiences with hormonal changes.

  6. 11:07
    Trauma, Mental Health, and Coping Strategies

    Discussion of trauma, anxiety, therapy, and coping mechanisms for mental health challenges.

  7. 23:00
    Growing Up in San Jose and Family Loss

    Hosts reflect on their upbringing in San Jose, sibling relationships, and the loss of a brother.

  8. 28:00
    Closing Sponsors and Final Thoughts

    Final sponsor ads and wrap‑up of the episode’s key points.

  9. 32:38
    Instagram Teen Accounts and Digital Safety

    Explanation of Instagram teen accounts, safety features, and digital protection for minors.

  10. 48:03
    Music as Trauma Therapy

    The guest explains how songwriting and music became a personal refuge during turbulent family events.

  11. 50:24
    Crisis‑Ready Mindset

    Discussion of the guest’s heightened cortisol response and how it fuels a savior complex in high‑stress situations.

  12. 51:51
    From Trauma to Performance

    Exploration of how stage adrenaline mirrors battlefield stress and the need to manage post‑show crashes.

  13. 52:50
    Luteal Phase and Creativity

    The host and guest humorously dissect how hormonal cycles affect performance and collaboration with a touring partner.

  14. 54:09
    The Power of Rituals

    Exploration of prayer, meditation, and other rituals used by the guest to ground themselves before performances.

  15. 56:27
    Past Lives and Family Bonds

    A light‑hearted digression into the idea of past‑life connections and how it shapes relationships with family.

  16. 57:02
    Berkeley Audition Journey

    The guest recounts the audition process, the challenges of relocating, and the impact on personal growth.

  17. 59:09
    Nashville vs. LA Career Paths

    Comparison of Nashville’s journeyman music scene with the unpredictable nature of Los Angeles and New York.

Highlights

  • 4:19

    Meeting at Phineas's Weddingstory

    Dax and the guest recall meeting at Phineas's wedding, discussing the unique social dynamics and the presence of high-profile guests.

  • 9:43

    Past Lives Theoryinsight

    The conversation turns to past lives, with the guest sharing her belief that certain deep connections stem from previous existences.

  • 16:51

    Approaching Margot Robbiestory

    The guest shares a humorous anecdote about approaching Margot Robbie at a Halloween party while dressed as Marie Antoinette.

  • 35:33

    Trauma and Nervous Systemsinsight

    The discussion dives into how early childhood trauma affects the nervous system and creates a constant anticipation of disaster.

  • 1:01:15

    The Reality of Famedebate

    The hosts and guest debate the motivations behind wanting to be rich and famous versus the actual pressures of public scrutiny.

  • 1:32:24

    Performing Live in Studiostory

    The guest delivers a powerful live performance of her new song, Stop the Wedding, on the piano.

Quotes

  • “Give me the layers, give me the boots, give me a reason to wear something other than a T-shirt.”
    Dax Shepard · 1:06
  • “$60. $60 for cashmere that you'd expect from a luxury brand without the luxury price tag.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:24
  • “The power of a wedding, which was really on display there, I almost could see the utility of weddings historically, which is you trust everyone there.”
    Dax Shepard · 8:04
  • “I feel like you seem, and your wife seems this way as well, very certain of who you are.”
    Unnamed speaker · 12:52
  • “I get to process what's going on in my life through words that no one has to hear.”
    Unnamed speaker · 48:31
  • “It's probably why I love being on stage.”
    Unnamed speaker · 51:27
  • “I think, I said the words are, didn't I say the words?”
    Unnamed speaker · 55:19
  • “I think that's the whole reason why we wanna find love in life, cuz you want someone to be a witness”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:05:21
  • “Very cool. It's cool to see like a sea of heads and then a sea of tombstones.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:06:05
  • “I think it's making me feel like I need to do that.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:50:14
  • Quince 0:50–0:57
  • YouTube Premium 2:02–2:19
  • Dell 1:07:37–1:09:52
  • Helix 1:10:01–1:12:13
  • BetterHelp 1:56:34–1:58:04

About this episode

Ashe (The Girl of Your Dreams, Moral of the Story, The Dream) is a singer and songwriter. Ashe joins the Armchair Expert to discuss growing up with a bipolar father, becoming the responsible younger sibling, and finding refuge in songwriting. Ashe and Dax talk about her breakout hit coinciding with devastating loss, the panic attacks that nearly made her quit music, and the adrenaline crash after a show. Ashe explains why success can feel like a warning, how childhood fears follow us into adulthood, and learning to feel safe in the life she’s built. Start your 2 month free trial today: https://youtube.com/premium . Terms Apply. Cancel Anytime. Check Allstate first for a quote that could save you hundreds: https://www.allstate.com/ See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Transcript

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Topics

  • Stop the Wedding
  • Nashville
  • Berkeley
  • Xanthum Gum
  • The Girl of Your Dreams
  • Flow
  • Boston
  • Transcendental meditation
  • The Favors
  • Mongolian cashmere

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