Weird Food Combos And FOMO

What's Tom & Romesh's best weird food combos? In this episode of Wolf & Owl, Romesh and Tom tackle some of life’s more important questions sent in by you, including how you should talk to your kids about drugs, whether boredom is actually a good thing and why Tom has absolutely no time for fancy soups. Elsewhere, the boys discuss their own youth, bizarre food combinations and share their thoughts on spending time alone and combating the experience of FOMO. Plus there's a debate on which characters they're more like from Fresh Prince and some soufflé hate from Romesh. Just another week of Wolf & Owl wisdom. A Ranga Bee Production in partnership with Platform Media. Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:42 Parenting advice on drugs 09:26 A question on strange food combos 14:01 Tom doesn’t do fancy soup 18:00 Some advice on boredom and alone time 24:36 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

• 0:14Speaker 00

  Welcome to the Wolf and Al email special. It's the email special. It's the email special. It's eBay special.

• 0:29Speaker 01

  You've really got some, your, your shoulders are really, what, they've come alive. I've never seen you use your shoulders.

• 0:36Speaker 00

  I don't know why I've done that. Uh, this is where we answer your questions or queries or simple discussion points. Uh, let's start with our first one, shall we Tom? Shall we get straight into it?

• 0:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's do it, my friend.

• 0:45Speaker 00

  Okay. Wolf and Al, hi. Learning. What do you do that for? Learning the podcast. Although I had to turn it off on the plane recently as I was getting funny looks as I giggled and snorted to the discussion on Tom's leather trousers. Now, I need some parenting advice. I have a 15 year old son who is smart and athletic, which he gets from his mum and the traits he has gained from me are mainly around deceit and misbehaving. He recently came home and he was clearly stoned. This wasn't a shock as he'd been going to the park.

• 1:13Speaker 01

  Like Adobe.

• 1:15Speaker 00

  This wasn't a shock as he'd been going, this could be quite a serious query. This wasn't a shock as he'd been going to the park with his friends to play football. And this was the same story I used when I was 15, I'd find places to smoke and drink, I know there's no. On this occasion, he tried to pull off the perfect crime. He left for the day to go to a basketball club that has been too many times. So he couldn't be tracked via air tags or phones. He then went to basketball and left his rucksack there with his air tag in.

• 1:38Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:39Speaker 00

  He then powered down his phone and left for the day to be with some friends. This entailed vaping and having magic mushrooms, holy fuck. He then had to collect his bag and air tag and return home. The only flaw in his plan was his return home and getting past the father who had done many similar things, he could quickly tell he wasn't quite himself.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:54Speaker 00

  So should the next steps be A punishment by grounding and removing phone technology, stay focused on schoolwork or B rewarding for his ingenuity and planning. So in the future, he can pull off complex deep cover operations. Appreciate your views and look forward to the Wolf and Al nightclub. Uh, the lanky bean pole.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  This is a doozy.

• 2:12Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:12Speaker 01

  Cause I think we're all this kid at some point.

• 2:15Speaker 00

  Were we?

• 2:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I mean, yeah, yeah.

• 2:18Speaker 00

  I once, uh, went out about 15, got completely stoned.

• 2:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:22Speaker 00

  Uh, came home, my mum had baked a cake.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:25Speaker 00

  She said, help yourself to a slice if you want. Um, I went and had a slice. Um, then I went and had another slice. Anyway, long story short, I went to the kitchen, I'd eaten the entire cake.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Jesus.

• 2:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, bad.

• 2:38Speaker 01

  I was terrible for going out and drinking and yeah, I used to do a thing where my dad would like on those ways to work, drop me at, uh, like college or whatever. I'd drop me to something or some sort of fucking thing I was doing.

• 2:51Speaker 00

  Why has your register changed a little bit? You've gone a little bit, uh.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  Like whimsical.

• 2:56Speaker 00

  I just sort of, uh.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  I don't know, cause I was thinking about being stoned.

• 2:59Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  And, uh, he quite often then just see me in Sutton Town Centre a couple of hours later. Just getting at like, you know, Wetherspoons or something as he'd go past. So sometimes he'd literally be driving and I'd be coming out of Sutton Station.

• 3:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  Anyhow.

• 3:12Speaker 00

  Can we just say on behalf of the podcast, don't do drugs?

• 3:14Speaker 01

  No, no. Um, I really think this is, I actually think the biggest problem with this one is the air, like the air tag and phone. I think it's like, like you, you've almost got to be like, look, I know this shit's happening. The, the, within a situation like this, I'd be, I think you've got to be honest that you were like that. But I think also it's like saying, switching off your phone and leaving your air tag someone and then taking yourself into a situation like this where I don't know where you are.

• 3:41Speaker 00

  It's the most dangerous thing to do in a way. You'll leave, you're unlocatable and then you're getting high.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. And we obviously didn't have phones or air tag. It's like just saying, look, if you're gonna do this.

• 3:51Speaker 00

  I'll tell you what, we did have though, a damn good time.

• 3:56Speaker 01

  You looked so old when you said that. You know who reminded me of? Will Smith's uncle in, uh.

• 4:02Speaker 00

  Uncle Phil?

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:03Speaker 00

  I've got Uncle Phil vibes.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  You've got Uncle Phil.

• 4:04Speaker 00

  Uncle Phil was actually younger than us when he filmed.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  What?

• 4:07Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Uncle Phil was so cool.

• 4:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:09Speaker 01

  Do you know when, um, Fresh Prince used to slip into like real emotive stuff?

• 4:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:13Speaker 01

  God, man, it got you, didn't it?

• 4:14Speaker 00

  Why don't he want me?

• 4:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, that episode.

• 4:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  Oh, man.

• 4:20Speaker 00

  Great show, right? What was it? What was it on? What was on BBC Two then?

• 4:23Speaker 01

  You know what's weird is when we started this podcast, you were Carlton. And now you've like become Uncle Phil.

• 4:29Speaker 00

  Hmm. Whereas you've not aged, have you, Peter Pan? Why don't you go fuck yourself?

• 4:33Speaker 01

  I'm not Will Smith, don't say that.

• 4:37Speaker 01

  Who's Will Smith's mate? Jazzy, Jazzy.

• 4:39Speaker 00

  Jazzy Jeff?

• 4:39Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, that's, that's it.

• 4:40Speaker 00

  Who's Will Smith's mate? Only one of the greatest DJs of all time, Jazzy Jeff.

• 4:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, Jazzy Jeff.

• 4:44Speaker 00

  Put some fucking respect on his name.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I couldn't remember, was his, what was character's name in it?

• 4:47Speaker 00

  Jazz.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Jazz, that's it, yeah.

• 4:48Speaker 00

  They did a special handshake, didn't they?

• 4:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. You'd probably be Will Smith, I'd be Jazz.

• 4:53Speaker 00

  I don't think I would be Will Smith.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Do you think you would be Carlton?

• 4:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. Beckett would be Will Smith.

• 4:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 4:59Speaker 00

  You'd be Ashley, little Ashley.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  Who do you think you'd have been in Saved by the Bell?

• 5:05Speaker 00

  Screech.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  No, I don't think you'd be.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  No, I would have been.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Who, is it Zach, the cool kid? The lead?

• 5:11Speaker 00

  Yeah, Zach.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:12Speaker 00

  And then is it AJ?

• 5:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. So anyway, I think in this situation, I mean, you've got a boy about this age, right?

• 5:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 5:17Speaker 01

  So, but I think in my head, I think you've got to have this honest, open conversation and say, look, I know this, this is happening. I've been there, probably not trying to lean too much into cool dad. Um, but, um, just.

• 5:29Speaker 00

  So, um.

• 5:32Speaker 00

  See, you've been on the old mushrooms and, uh.

• 5:35Speaker 01

  Theo, listen to me.

• 5:36Speaker 00

  You're probably sitting there thinking, this old man doesn't have a clue what I've been up to. Uh, let me do you something. Uh, when I was a kid, got into, dabbled with a few things myself.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Let me tell you, Theo, mate.

• 5:50Speaker 01

  Theo, listen.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  Your dad used to like to get high, all right? Don't tell your mum. I should like it, mate. I should get high as fuck.

• 6:03Speaker 01

  All right, dad, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, mate, no, no, no, listen, serious talk. I should get high. But I can't have you coming, getting high and then coming in and turning your apple tag off, boy. All right, so no.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  I think the fact is, I think, yeah, you got a, I think that's, that's the thing. My worry would be, I don't know where you are and I need to know where you are. And if you're gonna go and do this stuff, this craziness.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. And you know, throw a little bit my way.

• 6:30Speaker 01

  Yeah. Uh, I think that's the thing, I think, I mean, I look, I've got a long way to go to that. As, as Theo, Theo's a steady lad, don't he?

• 6:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, I don't know, but I think if that happened with the boys, I would, I mean, I certainly wouldn't, I mean, I'm assuming he's joking about the praise, the ingenuity of the.

• 6:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:49Speaker 00

  I don't know, I think that's obviously a joke. But I, I, I think that, um, I think it's probably have an open conversation. Cause I think part of the problem is that kids don't think you understand what they're up to at all. And I think you find I do, but what I mean is, is you've got to, uh.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  You know what the other voice used to call me? Wavy. The wave meister, the surfer.

• 7:14Speaker 00

  Do you know, I, I, it's very, sometimes it's difficult for me to make comment because I think that is so close to how I would, do you know what I mean? It, it is actually weirdly not that far away from how I would be. So I find that difficult to, to navigate. Cause like if you're doing something that's so far removed, I go, come on, mate. But actually I'm thinking, yeah, that doesn't sound, I mean, he's, he's done a slightly different voice, but that feels like the tone that I would take. Um, I think you just have to have an open chat, don't you?

• 7:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, Theo.

• 7:41Speaker 00

  Oh, can you imagine if I?

• 7:42Speaker 01

  Theo, everybody going surfing.

• 7:44Speaker 00

  Do you know what this is?

• 7:46Speaker 00

  It's called a bong, son.

• 7:49Speaker 01

  You know what? This is a character I'd like to see you play.

• 7:51Speaker 00

  I tell you what, you give me a tenner, I'll drink some of the water from the bottom. And that's what I used to do when I was a kid.

• 7:57Speaker 01

  Tell you what, give me a score, I'll drink some bong water and some piss.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  Ah, everyone used to say, oh yeah, he's got some money, Ron will do it there.

• 8:06Speaker 00

  Now, I'm sure you've been doing all your bongs and your bunnies, your zoos or whatever you get up to.

• 8:13Speaker 00

  But here's a little thing that we used to do, a little bit of beer in the bong.

• 8:18Speaker 01

  You ever seen Jackass, boy?

• 8:19Speaker 00

  We call that a spicy.

• 8:22Speaker 01

  You ever seen Jackass, boy? You ever seen some of the stuff they do in Jackass?

• 8:26Speaker 00

  Uh, well, let's just say some of that was based on your old man. You used to get a funnel, three cans of white lightning, pour it into your own cavity.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  Um, yeah, I think it is the, the thing of having that honest discussion. And I think it's just like, look, just do it responsibly, do it safe.

• 8:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, do it safe.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Also where they're getting shit these days.

• 8:49Speaker 00

  What?

• 8:49Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, just making sure.

• 8:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think you've got, you know, if you're gonna, it feels weird to say if you're gonna do drugs, can you keep the apple tag on? But that's kind of, that's kind of the gist of it, isn't it?

• 8:59Speaker 01

  Yeah. If you're gonna be, and also enjoy your basketball still.

• 9:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 9:04Speaker 01

  Cause I tell you what.

• 9:05Speaker 00

  There's not, not just one way to get high.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  Yeah. Cause I'll tell you what, you can get high all your life, but basketball, once you get to a certain age, I'd love to go back and play basketball club.

• 9:15Speaker 00

  You don't need basketball anymore, but does he get high?

• 9:18Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I get high all the time.

• 9:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. I love getting high.

• 9:21Speaker 01

  Um, okay, that's, I think.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, good luck, lanky bean pole.

• 10:10Speaker 00

  Right, Tom.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Hi, Tom and Rob. Love the podcast.

• 10:14Speaker 00

  Yee-haw!

• 10:15Speaker 01

  They're both of your work. I'm actually gonna see Tom soon and I'll, well, it'll be my first comedy show I've ever been to.

• 10:22Speaker 00

  Oh, there you go. Suddenly he said there's an opportunity for some promo and he's gone all serious.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm hoping Newcastle's still struggling to sell tickets there. I'm buzzing. Big fan of Murder and Successful. Anyway, sorry to glaze.

• 10:32Speaker 00

  That's okay. I didn't really feel that. Oh, that's right. You didn't mention me at all. Anyway, carry on.

• 10:36Speaker 01

  Oh, in your opinion, something, I love a good snack. Just a cheeky sandwich, a little cake or something like that. One of my sandwiches, if you can call it sandwich, is two bits of bread with butter on each piece and I squirt some HP on the bread, spread it around and I slap the bread together and chow down. I even amp it up by putting crisps in. A crisp sandwich.

• 10:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, something to become clear eyes of Tom, fam. Anyway, go on.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  I've been called an utter weirdo for having such a thing, but I'm pretty sure a lot of people eat strange concoctions of food they've put together and they're just too ashamed to talk about it. Would love to get both your opinions and the strange things you guys eat and maybe you haven't told anyone about. Thank you for all the laughs. The loud lemur.

• 11:17Speaker 00

  Lima.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 11:18Speaker 00

  Um, loud Lima, thanks for email. Fuck you for not mentioning me, you piece of shit.

• 11:24Speaker 00

  I actually was the subject of, um, a little bit of a, what's wrong with you?

• 11:30Speaker 01

  It's just your face. It's how needy we both are. People know how pathetic we both are. So usually even if they'll go, oh, Rob, I love this. I love the week is there. And Tom, yeah, I've just become aware of your stuff.

• 11:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, this person hasn't bothered.

• 11:42Speaker 01

  No, no, that is the first time that no one's mentioned either of us. It's like.

• 11:45Speaker 00

  What do we know? We mentioned either. He's coming to see you.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Oh, no, yeah, yeah. Hopefully, yeah, I mean, that's nice. That's, that's good. Um.

• 11:53Speaker 01

  Your face. Right, but.

• 11:55Speaker 00

  So basically, I was doing some interview. I can't remember what it was, but I said that somewhere, some, I don't remember, some when, somewhere, I have said that I like marmite and peanut butter mixed together, which is true.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  I think you said it on here.

• 12:08Speaker 00

  It does that on here?

• 12:08Speaker 01

  I think you said it on here.

• 12:09Speaker 00

  Okay, so then there was some video, some, and some people had taken quotes from different celebs or whatever and decided to try these combinations. And I can't remember what the others were, but somebody tagged, sent it to me and said, like, you'd be mentioned here. And they tried marmite and peanut butter. And then they sort of rinsed it. They're just like, I don't really like this or whatever.

• 12:31Speaker 01

  I can't see why you would, that wouldn't work.

• 12:32Speaker 00

  I don't see, they were going, it's claggy, but it's.

• 12:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course it's claggy.

• 12:36Speaker 00

  It's peanut butter.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  They're too fucking, you couldn't get too well claggy things.

• 12:39Speaker 00

  But you, you know.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  You're like Clag King.

• 12:41Speaker 00

  Peanut butter, marmite, banana.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's great. Can I just say, by the way, peanut butter and marmite isn't even a wild swing.

• 12:47Speaker 00

  No.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  It's, it's, that's a really great concoction.

• 12:50Speaker 00

  I don't actually think a crisp sandwich is a wild swing.

• 12:52Speaker 01

  Can I say crisp sandwich is pretty much, I don't know anyone who hasn't had a crisp sandwich.

• 12:56Speaker 00

  It's not, it's not actually, I, I think, I'm surprised that anybody has a reaction to that, to be honest with you. HP crisps and two bits of bread?

• 13:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:05Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't get, I mean, I'm, I'd be honest with you, the biggest surprise is that you're bothering to butter the bread.

• 13:10Speaker 01

  No, no, I don't, mate, crisp, just a buttered crisp sandwich.

• 13:12Speaker 00

  Crisps.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  Oh, mate, but butter makes everything better. You, you don't know that because you're not in the butter game. You know, you've got that vegan spread, which is nowhere near. They can't.

• 13:22Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 13:23Speaker 01

  Salty butter, salty crisps, cheap white loaf.

• 13:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  Little bit of HP in the mix.

• 13:29Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Oh, gosh.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  Really?

• 13:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  I'll tell you now, I'd actually go further and get a bit of, a bit of cheese, bit of ham and.

• 13:36Speaker 00

  Cheese, ham, crisps, butter.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  HP.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 00

  Bread.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:40Speaker 00

  Buh.

• 13:41Speaker 01

  I, I'm probably the thing I'm known most for is, no matter what else I've done, is the Heinz tomato soup with, uh, What'sits.

• 13:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:49Speaker 01

  That's, that's my.

• 13:50Speaker 00

  That's your, that would be your legacy.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  I think that is, yeah, that's the thing. If I'm gonna leave anything behind, I think, and I, I hope people have tried it. It's incredible.

• 13:58Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 13:58Speaker 01

  You can have What'sits, can't you?

• 13:59Speaker 00

  No.

• 14:00Speaker 01

  Why?

• 14:00Speaker 00

  Because they've got cheese in.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's fake cheese, isn't it?

• 14:03Speaker 00

  I think it's got real, no, no, there probably are vegan What'sits, but I'm not.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  If they can get vegan What'sits, I'd love to see your face when you tried that for the first time.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  What, what happens to the What'sits?

• 14:11Speaker 01

  They go soggy. They just, they are incredible. You've gotta leave them. Some people go in too high. They go, they're just What'sits. That means you've not played the game properly. You know what's great is if you get them at the top, they're crispy at the top and soggy underneath.

• 14:23Speaker 00

  Would you ever use a giant What'sit?

• 14:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I have them.

• 14:27Speaker 00

  Can I, can I just say at this point, I think you're being a bit closed off to other soup brands?

• 14:33Speaker 01

  I've tried it with other soups. It's not the same.

• 14:35Speaker 00

  There must be, there must be a soup that's going toe to toe with Heinz.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  I've tried it with Baxters, I've tried it with Tesco's own.

• 14:39Speaker 00

  Well, there must be like some fancy one.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  No, the fancier the worse.

• 14:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 14:43Speaker 01

  Can I say, by the way, soup, when it gets fancy, fuck off. Like, soup should be, like, I think it's like, oh.

• 14:50Speaker 00

  About 20 years ago.

• 14:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:53Speaker 00

  Somebody, I went to a dinner party.

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:56Speaker 00

  And somebody had made, uh, Jamie Oliver recipe tomato soup and brought it. Everybody's bringing a course.

• 15:04Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 15:05Speaker 00

  Best tomato soup I've ever had. What are you doing? What are you getting on that for?

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Well, because it's, that's a fucking bit of a, someone's been asked to make a starter and I made tomato soup.

• 15:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  By the way, I bet it came out of a tin.

• 15:15Speaker 00

  No, it didn't.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  What, so they made it with real tomatoes?

• 15:17Speaker 00

  I think so, yeah.

• 15:18Speaker 01

  Right, that, can I just say that person, not better me.

• 15:21Speaker 00

  Why?

• 15:22Speaker 01

  I just, I just think that they could have made anything for a starter.

• 15:26Speaker 00

  I think, I think they'd agreed in advance what they were gonna have. I, I, by the way, this is 20 years ago. This person's getting fucking roasted. A little bit like the tomatoes, I believe she did, to break them down.

• 15:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, yeah, you roast them, that's, get the skins off.

• 15:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:38Speaker 01

  A bit of olive oil.

• 15:39Speaker 00

  So you think this person's a piece of shit for bringing tomato soup? And it was the best tomato soup I've ever had.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, but have you had Heinz tomato soup?

• 15:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, I've had Heinz tomato soup.

• 15:48Speaker 01

  I think Heinz tomato soup is the best tomato soup in the world.

• 15:51Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  I, I'm just shouting it out. I think it's incredible. And also.

• 15:54Speaker 00

  So you've tried Baxter's? What else have you tried?

• 15:56Speaker 01

  Of all of the own brands. I've tried the, the high end, like, you know, ones that come in a plastic tub, um, those ones. Um, I've, you know, homemade, I've never tried. I have made homemade tomato soup. Um.

• 16:09Speaker 00

  So you're also a piece of shit.

• 16:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. No, no, no, no, but I would never take it to, no, my point is I wouldn't take it to a dinner party.

• 16:15Speaker 00

  Right.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  If, if you called me up and went, hey, mate, it's me. Why are you talking so loud? And I go, I'm excited. Me and Lisa are having a dinner party. Uh, everyone's doing a different course. Beckett's doing the main course. Uh, Josh is doing the desserts. We put you in for starter. I'm like, okay, right. How do I impress everyone?

• 16:33Speaker 00

  So what would you make?

• 16:34Speaker 01

  Uh, I probably would go, oh man, it's tough actually. I'd probably go for a soup, cheese souffle for the, uh, for the, like, norm, everyone else.

• 16:43Speaker 00

  Normal people, yeah, just saying.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  For you, I put, well, you know, you like tomato soup, I put, make you some tomato.

• 16:48Speaker 00

  So you would bring a tomato soup?

• 16:49Speaker 01

  No, I was joking. Uh, I was being, uh.

• 16:52Speaker 00

  But if somebody brought a cheese souffle as a starter, you'd, I would just.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  No, I'd have to, I wouldn't.

• 16:57Speaker 00

  No, but you just sort of go, do you wanna fucking relax? What are you doing?

• 17:00Speaker 01

  You tried my cheese souffle.

• 17:01Speaker 00

  I'm sure it's delightful, but isn't it a bit, it's a bit versey, isn't it?

• 17:04Speaker 01

  No, I'd get there and go, hey, Lisa, how you doing? You all right? Hey, babe. Um, Rob, what are you up to? What do you think I'm up to? I'm in charge of the veto. Hey! Um, right.

• 17:17Speaker 00

  John, don't encourage him.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  And I'll go, can I use the oven?

• 17:22Speaker 00

  Right.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Because this has to come out of the oven. It has to be hot.

• 17:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:25Speaker 01

  Obviously Beckett's doing the main course. He's done a casserole. Josh has probably done a floating island. He's been like, oh, fucking, we had these in Paris. I mean, so, right, so, yeah. I find it so funny looking at your face. It's basically laughs. But anyway, what I'm saying is the tomato soup just feels like an easy win.

• 17:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:45Speaker 01

  So you get the tomato soup, has to be Heinz, stick it in the microwave, do it a little bit over the, a lot of time. So you get that cre, like that film around the top of the bowl.

• 17:52Speaker 00

  The sort of the edge.

• 17:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So, but, no, you know, then put your What'sits in, leave it three to five minutes.

• 17:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  Some of the What'sits, let them sink in.

• 18:01Speaker 00

  How many, what, are you putting a whole bag?

• 18:02Speaker 01

  No, I'll put half a bag. And then what I do is once I've eaten those, I'll then re-What'sit.

• 18:06Speaker 00

  You re-top up, okay, good.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  But let me say giant What'sits, get the spicy giant What'sits. They're really amicable.

• 18:13Speaker 00

  Hmm. I mean, even the misuse of that is incorrect.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  It's beautiful with the chili, put chili and cheese together.

• 18:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  If you've got the budget.

• 18:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, okay. If you've got the budget for what's essentially very much a council estate meal.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's delicious. So, yeah, I'd say that's a really, give that a try.

• 18:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, give it a try. There you go. I hope that helps. Good luck to you.

• 19:40Speaker 00

  Dear Wolf, Al and Coyote.

• 19:42Speaker 01

  Whey, whey.

• 19:43Speaker 00

  That's nice, isn't it?

• 19:44Speaker 01

  The coy, this is, yeah, look at that.

• 19:45Speaker 00

  I've recently left uni, gone straight into a job, completely changed the structure of my life. I moved out of my uni house and now find myself living alone for the first time. I still see mates and I'm lucky to have a strong support network. However, for the first time ever, I find myself alone for evenings with nothing to do. Have you guys learnt to enjoy your own company, enjoy being by yourself? Unless I get myself out of the house or go out to do something with a mate, I find myself feeling very lonely, listless and bored. Especially on weekend nights, I go to bed feeling like I've sort of wasted the evening, feeling lonely or hankering for a bit of the devil's lettuce. There's almost something to do. I know this is something everyone has to learn, but I was just hoping for your advice on how you went about it. Hmm.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  What is the devil's lettuce?

• 20:25Speaker 00

  Marijuana.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:26Speaker 00

  I think. Anyway, go on, what would you do? What's your advice, sorry?

• 20:30Speaker 01

  Firstly, I think you're young.

• 20:32Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  So I think that there's a lot to be said about.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  Great advice.

• 20:36Speaker 01

  Feeling that you are, the world is moving quicker than it actually is. I think when you get to our age, it starts moving quick. I think, I think, when I take myself back to being that age, I think I was very similar. I would always want to be around people. I was like that until about thirty probably, early thirties.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  And then I was, I was seeing a girl and she said to me, you can't be on your own, can you? And I was, what do you mean? She was like, if we're, we're, I was living with her at the time. She was like, but if she's out doing something, you can't just sit, you know, you have to be around people, even if it's just going to the pub on your own and meeting people. You have, you're constantly, you need other people.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  You know, whether that's FOMO or whatever it was. And from there, I started to look at that as a thing. And I think one of the best things that stand-up did, because you travel a lot, you're on your own a lot, when you first start and you tend to spend more and more time on your own. And then actually just reading about the fact that the need for other people's company, like trying as best you can. And I think one of the things kind of makes that difficult. I think as life goes on and you're set when you're on, you can, you can go into two, two ways of being. You can go into where you're at at the moment, where you're like thinking about that being a negative. Or, you know, and, and, you know, especially when, you know, you've lived a bit of a life and you sit there and you, you know, you can sometimes get into a bit of a down space, which even now I do.

• 22:03Speaker 01

  I think when you have got that time on your own, I think it's try to sort of, and just try work, work ways of enjoying it. Try to have things that you do. Cook yourself a nice meal, as silly as that, that sounds. So you, you're doing something where you feel like, you know, you're learning something or you're growing or, or, you know, or watch a series on your own or go out on your own, go to cinema on your own, go for a meal. That's the one thing that being away as a, even, you know, you're on jobs as a scapper, but acting or whatever. And sometimes you'd be in a cast where you don't really know anyone and you spend quite a lot of time on your own. And actually, I quite enjoy that time now. I, I try to, you read, you know, whatever.

• 22:45Speaker 01

  You know, play FIFA quite a lot. But I think actually.

• 22:49Speaker 00

  Just a bit.

• 22:51Speaker 01

  Cherish that, cherish that time rather than feeling negative about it. And, and also just, I think sometimes I, I, you know, without sounding a bit cliche, I could, I sometimes found myself in company and a lot of the time still do. I could be with a lot of people and feel actually almost the loneliest I could feel. And I'm like, I'm just being in people's company for the sake of being in people's company. And actually being around people, what, what I'm actually looking for in a sense. And I think actually being a better friend to yourself and getting to know who you are is the, the best thing I've ever done is try to have that little bit of time and realise what I actually need from friends. So the friends I have now are friends that I hold dear. So it's not just people, I just want to be around people, so I'm around anyone.

• 23:36Speaker 01

  I, the people I choose to be around are people that I enjoy, like Romesh being around. And I think that's the thing, you could, you can become a place. And I spent fifteen, twenty years just being around people for the sake of being around people because I didn't want to be on my own. And I think that's, that's the skill of it. It's just going, oh, you know, you're worthy of being people, you know, that give you something and nourish you as a person.

• 24:00Speaker 00

  I, great advice, really good.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  Thank you, sir.

• 24:03Speaker 00

  Really good.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Thank you. Thank you.

• 24:06Speaker 00

  I don't know if two men in their late forties should be giving somebody of your age, this guy's age, advice about what to do. But I think when you're younger, you have this thing about like Friday and Saturday nights, where you just go, I have to be out, right? Like everybody's out and I have to be out. And one of the most liberating things you can experience, and it only sort of happened to me when I was a bit older, is sort of going, oh, I don't actually have to do that. Do you know what I mean? And, and then you, you end up going out because you think that's a default setting. I've got to go out, I've got to go out, I've got to go out. And it's just shit a lot of the time. And then some, and actually what happens is, is I, I think like, i- if you spend some time at home and then you go out because you choose to go out rather than you're supposed to, you actually enjoy it a bit more. Do you know what I mean?

• 24:49Speaker 00

  And, and I think that in terms of like, your question actually is about figuring out what to do on your own. I feel like, you know, I, I, I sort of think, just, I don't know. It feels like the obvious things, watching stuff, reading, playing stuff. You can still, you can still talk to mates, even though you're at home on your own.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  More than we could back in the day.

• 25:11Speaker 00

  Absolutely. Absolutely. But I, I think, I think part of the problem you've got is not learning to be on your own. I feel like the problem is, is you've got, you, you've got crippling FOMO, which is where you think everybody else is out and about having an amazing time and I'm not. And actually, once you'd sort of free yourself of that belief, then actually you can get on with the business of engaging with your own evening and having a nice time. I think that you can get so caught up in everyone's out and about. And you can be out and about if you want to, but you don't have to be all the time. And I think that's the thing where when you're younger, you, you just think, I've got to be out getting smashed or whatever every night. And you don't. But I did do for a bit and it was a mistake.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  Beautiful. That's good advice.

• 25:59Speaker 00

  I don't know what you're up to, man.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  That's really good advice.

• 26:01Speaker 00

  That's a real snaky little round of applause.

• 26:03Speaker 01

  That's a really good advice. I went to do it and then you, what you did really well is you, you took another touch of the ball. And I was like, that's fucking, I thought you were going to put the ball through. And you held on to it for, you took it for a little bit of an amazing dribble.

• 26:13Speaker 00

  Thank you so much.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  That's beautiful.

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  Thank you.

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Well done.

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