Songs Stuck In Our Heads, Shower Etiquette and Family Wedding Drama

Could Tom spin a grown man above his head like a cartoon strongman Which sad song is Tom planning for his funeral? And how has Rom's shower confession gotten EVEN worse? Rom and Tom also share their best advice on surviving a family wedding, Tom gets honest about imposter syndrome, and Romesh has a “fake it till you make it” plan. Send your questions and queries to [email protected] A Ranga Bee Production. Chapters: 00:00 Intro01:04 Squatting too low and hip agony04:06 Tom picks his funeral song08:13 The great 80s power ballads10:18 The crack-first showering debate10:50 King Gary wins over a sceptic11:20 Estranged dad at the brother’s wedding16:30 Imposter syndrome17:01 Tom opens up about his own imposter syndrome19:01 Romesh’s advice: fake it till you make it21:37 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

• 0:15Speaker 00

  Welcome to the Wolf and Al Podcast.

• 0:18Speaker 01

  Sorry friend, just ran in from getting a very interesting message.

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  Wolf and Al Pod G, oh god, email special, questions, queries, observations, we'll be dealing with. What are you doing?

• 0:33Speaker 01

  I've got a funny feeling, my nose.

• 0:39Speaker 01

  It's fucking weird. You know, like, it's something gone up there, but I don't know what. Maybe I've just sucked back on a bogey too hard.

• 0:48Speaker 00

  Well, please like and subscribe. If you enjoyed that, I pulled too hard on a booger chat from Tom. There's loads more of that. And if you found it disgusting, don't worry, most of his stuff is ass related. Shall we go, shall we go to the first email, Tom? What did you, you, you keep playing footsuits in the last few episodes.

• 1:08Speaker 01

  I think, I'm finding, I think, I'm finding you quite sexy at the moment.

• 1:10Speaker 00

  No, it's not what's happening. You're uncomfortable in that chair.

• 1:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, my bum's hurting a bit. I told you, I've got, I think I've got a problem with my hips.

• 1:18Speaker 00

  I am, I, I did, somebody told me that I'm not squatting low enough.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:24Speaker 00

  So I then decided to squat lower. I'm in agony now.

• 1:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, you shouldn't squat, you don't need to squat that low.

• 1:30Speaker 00

  No, but I'm squatting to, to power my fucking.

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you don't need to, you can do it without squatting so low.

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  Can you?

• 1:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, serious, like, our, our, our age, you've got to be really careful of that.

• 1:41Speaker 00

  Have you? I'm squatting low, man. My balls are grazing the ground.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  Hey, look at me, look how low I am. You're all right, mate. No, I'm holding a trapbar, mate, low as I can be, low in a snake's belly.

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• 3:00Speaker 00

  Do you want to do the first email?

• 3:01Speaker 01

  Yes, sorry.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Hello, Mr Wolf and Mr Al. I've never emailed before, but I'm a big old fan. I often wonder whether Tom would be able to pick up an adult human and lift them above his head and spin them around like in a cartoon. And Ron, would you let him do this to you if he could?

• 3:20Speaker 00

  Sorry, what are we to you?

• 3:22Speaker 01

  It's fucking insane. Who, what?

• 3:24Speaker 00

  This is not the actual question, sir.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  No, no, but that is an insane, what, you could, that requires some serious strength.

• 3:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't think you could do that. You're a very powerful man, but.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  No, no, I'm not that strong. There's no one I could, no one.

• 3:40Speaker 00

  So the answer to your question is no, but that's not the actual question.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  No, anyway, my actual question is about getting songs stuck in your head. I sometimes have the same song stuck in my head for up to two weeks. And the worst part is I can't help but singing out loud, sometimes in varying levels of volume, skill and style. I'm aware of how utterly irritating this must be to everyone around me, but I can't seem to stop it. Luckily, my partner just joins in whenever I start singing. That's a great partner, by the way. So he doesn't seem too annoyed by it.

• 4:08Speaker 00

  So you're now an annoying couple instead.

• 4:10Speaker 01

  I think it's his way of coping, to be honest. So my question is, do you get songs stuck in your head and how long for? Or am I a freak? Thanks so much. You're both great. From the Gaudy Griffin.

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  Uh, Gordy, I believe.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Gordy, yeah, yeah.

• 4:22Speaker 00

  Um, uh, Tom, songs. I do get songs stuck in my head for ages.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  Sad songs stick with me.

• 4:29Speaker 00

  I don't have to sing them out loud, but I will occasionally like hum a riff of it as I'm wandering around.

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  I know, I'm a singer.

• 4:36Speaker 00

  Are you?

• 4:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. Even when the night changes, I never dreamed of. That song's in my head.

• 4:45Speaker 00

  I think it's the, I, I think it's the unbroken eye contact that I found the weirdest about the whole thing.

• 4:51Speaker 01

  Do you know, Cynthia Rivia, she did a version of the song from Trains Plains. It's in the John Candy documentary.

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  Right.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  Oh, it's beautiful.

• 5:01Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  I, I listened to Catherine's, like, why do you listen to such sad songs? It's literally like.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  You mean at the end, when they're travelling, when they're close to home?

• 5:10Speaker 01

  Yeah. Have you heard this version?

• 5:12Speaker 00

  No, I haven't.

• 5:12Speaker 04

  Every time you go away?

• 5:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, have you heard her sing it?

• 5:14Speaker 00

  Every time you go away.

• 5:18Speaker 01

  I actually think this is, this is my funeral song now.

• 5:21Speaker 00

  Okay, I'll look forward to hearing that in about eight months.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  You feel so bad.

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  If you died.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  In eight months, in seven months. And this had been out and John, you'd have to, you'd have to.

• 5:31Speaker 00

  I'd have to go, John, listen, um, can you do me a favour and go back to that ep and snip that bit out, please?

• 5:39Speaker 01

  Have, listen, have you heard this, this song?

• 5:41Speaker 04

  I don't think I have, I've not heard that version of it.

• 5:42Speaker 00

  Every time you go away.

• 5:46Speaker 01

  So good. Baby, you're too good to be, yeah.

• 5:50Speaker 00

  Is that the same song?

• 5:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. I can feel your body move. Yeah.

• 5:55Speaker 00

  Is it? Okay, I don't know that song as well as I thought I did. Um, but yeah, I do get that.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:02Speaker 00

  Tom, Tom, I go through a thing where I listen to the same song over and over and over and over and over. Kill it dead, so that I never want to listen to it again. Then I leave it and then maybe years later, I'll go, oh shit, I used to love this song.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  That's the special thing when that pops up on your playlist.

• 6:20Speaker 00

  Oh, it's refreshed.

• 6:21Speaker 01

  And you know every word because, yeah.

• 6:23Speaker 00

  God, beautiful. Really good.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm fucking, I love that feeling. I like, I just like the safety of no, a song that I can, I'll do it when, when we leave here and I walk back to the station. I'll have a song on probably either, yeah, One Direction or, or that Cynthia Rivia song, and I'll sing along.

• 6:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  It's a beautiful thing.

• 6:42Speaker 00

  So you like country, Westlife?

• 6:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:45Speaker 00

  Um, Cynthia Riva?

• 6:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, not all of Cynthia Riva, Cynthia Riva as well. I don't know enough of it, but that, that, her voice is incredible in that.

• 6:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 6:53Speaker 01

  She's the sort of person I can imagine just bursting into, yeah, that's one of the things, you know, like real life versus like film shit.

• 6:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  I think it'd be amazing, you know, like when someone, I remember coming back drunk one Christmas and loads of us started singing on a bus. It's one of my happiest ever memories. Loads of us were just singing songs on a bus.

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  Yeah.

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  It's like real community feeling, spirit. People were getting on the bus and then staying, well, I remember one guy going, and me going, where are you getting off? And he was like, like seven stops ago, mate, this has been a right laugh. That sort of stuff sticks with you. I'd love it if you were on a tube or a train and someone just sort of burst into song. And everyone just, no, like Cliff Richard, sort of, not him, because he's obviously a bit weird, but.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  You know, when like people, you feel like a part of community. So someone's had a tough day and they're like, I've had a tough day. Yeah. I've had a hard day. And we were like, yeah, this is, I know exactly how you feel. I was the same thing. And you was just like singing along.

• 7:53Speaker 00

  I don't think that would be the response if somebody.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  No, because everyone looked like you were slightly insane.

• 7:57Speaker 00

  But there's some people that just sing, don't they? Like, as in, what I mean is they don't even sing a song. They'll go, can't get the mic quite right today. Or something like that. They're just constantly bursting into song.

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  Someone just started singing a song that you like, like a real, like, you know, it's not time to make a change.

• 8:13Speaker 00

  Right.

• 8:13Speaker 01

  And everyone just nudging each other going, yeah, but wouldn't it be great if everyone in society just went, oh, let's all just let out?

• 8:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  Let's just get it out, let's sing. That'd be amazing.

• 8:24Speaker 00

  When I, when I was in New York, or the first time I went to New York, we're walking through the Hyde, Hyde Park, walking through Central Park. Walking through Central Park and a guy had got a guitar out and a whole group of people were singing along with him.

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  That, see, that's.

• 8:40Speaker 00

  And it wasn't pre, I'm pretty sure it wasn't pre organised.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  Did you stand and watch?

• 8:45Speaker 00

  For a little bit. And I remember thinking to myself, I don't know if this happens in London, but I think it.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  Sorry, I just imagined you like Harry Styles when James Cardle won.

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  Save tonight.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  The famous clip.

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  What famous clip is that?

• 9:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, Harry Styles when James Cardle, was it James Cardle?

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  Matt Cardle.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  Matt Cardle won the X Factor.

• 9:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:07Speaker 01

  And Harry, Harry Styles runs up to him and you see him on X Factor, whispering going, you're gonna get so much pussy.

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  He'd be in Central Park going, I'll bet this guy gets 500 pussy.

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  Do you think Matt Cardle did get loads of pussy from that?

• 9:21Speaker 01

  I think he did alright for a while.

• 9:22Speaker 04

  I reckon he had a good couple of years.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think he was, yeah. Him and James Arthur always struck me as the same person, just in different sort of bodies. Like aliens have taken over, that's, it's quite a few of those guys, sort of the ballad guys.

• 9:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:35Speaker 00

  But like, 80s ballads are great, right?

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:40Speaker 00

  If you can find a good playlist of those, you're, you're about to have yourself a really sad, great evening.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  Yeah. Carly Simon, Let the River, Let the River Run.

• 9:48Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 9:49Speaker 01

  Let the river run. It's beautiful. It's amazing. That's a great song.

• 9:59Speaker 04

  Jennifer Rush, Power of Love.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  Yes, oh my god. Yeah, that's, I tell ya.

• 10:04Speaker 04

  That's a shower song.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is a shower song.

• 10:06Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:08Speaker 04

  I was sparring in the morning.

• 10:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 10:11Speaker 01

  Have you got a shower?

• 10:11Speaker 04

  I've got, I've got, I've got a Sonos in the shower.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  Oh mate, this guy. I can imagine you.

• 10:17Speaker 00

  It's, it's quite, it's quite, I would say it's a fairly achievable dream.

• 10:25Speaker 00

  If he'd have said, I've got a rollercoaster in my garden. Yeah.

• 10:30Speaker 00

  He's got a speaker in his bathroom. I, I think he's within the realms of possibly.

• 10:39Speaker 01

  Waterproof.

• 10:40Speaker 04

  It's about, it's about what's on the speaker.

• 10:41Speaker 00

  Sure.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  It's about what's coming out.

• 10:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, all I can see is him just all larva eating Raydocks.

• 10:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  Um, firm friend of the show. Um, and, and just, yeah, in that mint light, you know, just listening to, yeah, yeah.

• 10:53Speaker 00

  We've had to speak to the kids about how much shower gel they're using per shower.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  By the way, let's not get into shower, your showering etiquette has been absolutely.

• 11:02Speaker 00

  I know, I know, I know, I know, I know.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  It's something that's.

• 11:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I've been talking about going crack first and it's really not gone down well.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  No, you wash your arse before your face is insane.

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  I know.

• 11:14Speaker 01

  It's literally the one thing that I, I've made a lot of faux pas on this.

• 11:17Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  I think I'm king idiot.

• 11:19Speaker 00

  If, if I could say, it, it's, the, the, the sort of the implication is that I am taking my hand to my arsecrack,

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  picking out whatever I find and then smearing onto my own face like war paint.

• 11:50Speaker 01

  Oh, it won't be the best thing you've ever said.

• 11:51Speaker 00

  Uh, anyway, shall we go to the next question?

• 11:56Speaker 00

  Anyway, I'll answer your question, what was it? What's the name, what was the name of the previous emailer?

• 11:59Speaker 01

  Um, something about, uh.

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  Something about a Gordy, Gordy Griffin, yeah.

• 12:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're both, yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, it happens to both of us, yeah.

• 12:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:09Speaker 00

  Uh, hello Wolf Allen team, I've been listening since you started videoing the pod and I'm now working through from episode one in the days you didn't, you don't release an app. Keep up the good work. I've also started watching King Gary, I've avoided it in the past, I thought it was some kind of shit piss take period drama, only going off the name. But it's one of the best things, and that's quite depressing, isn't it?

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Probably why it got cancelled. People not watching it, thinking, thinking it was gonna, what's depressing about that is people saw I was in it and thought, this'll be shit.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  And now go, oh, he's actually done a thing with Ramesh, it's actually quite funny, he's actually also in it as well.

• 13:41Speaker 00

  But it's one of the best things on TV I've watched in a long, long time. That's nice, isn't it? Uh, I'm estranged from my father, I haven't seen him in about six years and I very much wish to keep it that way, he's not a nice person. I don't buy into the whole blood is thicker than water proverb. I cut him out of my life and I've never looked back on that decision. He's made attempts over the years to contact me through various family members. Most recently by giving some money for his granddaughters that he's never met and never will, which I politely declined. This was giving him an in and give him an expectation from me in return. However, my brother is getting married soon and no doubt he'll be at the wedding. I know he won't be able to help himself and he'll come up and talk to me. And I don't know how to navigate this interaction. I've assured my brother I won't cause a scene, I'll be mature, just ignore him, but I wanna go full throttle and tell him to fuck off and leave me alone.

• 14:23Speaker 00

  And walk away in the end that he gets the message. Any advice on how I should go about what to do here? Do I just not go? Or do I just be polite when he comes over? Love you both from the deceiving slow loris.

• 14:35Speaker 01

  Well, that's, yeah, um, the deceiving slow loris, I, I, I, I, I think this is a very difficult, difficult situation.

• 14:45Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Having sort of some kind of experience of this, um, in a roundabout way myself, um, not through my family but through Catherine's, but. I think, I think firstly the thing you always have to remember on a day like this and a situation like this is not about you and it's not about your dad. It's about your brother and it's about his day. Um, and I think you have to put that first and foremost. So I think you not going feels, even if you're, you, you think the reason you're not going is because you don't wanna create like an atmosphere or create a scene, um.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  You, what you're doing there is essentially just make, still making it about, I'm not coming in and, and you kind of still make it about that, that your problem with your dad's bigger than what should be the happiest day of your brother's life. The fact is, I think you've kind of got to speak to maybe someone else who's going to the wedding, another family member, don't put this on your brother's doorstep and just be like, look, if you can get through to dad and say, we don't wanna create a scene, but I don't wanna speak to him, I don't want him speaking to my children. You know, and I don't wanna, I don't wanna be in his presence, I don't wanna have a conversation with him. Um, I think if your dad doesn't respect that enough, I think what you're, you know, you can, without creating a scene, just, just be like,

• 15:55Speaker 01

  I've told, yeah, I've, I've said, I've said my piece, I've told people, you know, I don't, you know, I don't wanna speak to you. It's very, very hard. I think weddings are very emotional days, I think for a lot of different reasons. And I think that family conflicts and family problems can boil up. We had that, we had them at ours and it's a very, um, it's a very strange thing because, because whilst there's two people in the midst of it who are completely about themselves and it's about their day, they're getting married, it's this massive special day, there's kind of loads of different subplots and sub-stories going on in a sense of that day and other people's feelings and other people, you know, that you, you're kind of oblivious of. And I, but I think the best you can, I think is, is just go, look,

• 16:39Speaker 01

  I, I've made my, my feelings clear. If, you know, your dad doesn't sound like from what you're saying on here, he doesn't sound, maybe he'll let that be. Um, but I think, yeah, you've kind of just got to respect your brother's wishes, be there for him, remember it's about your brother and just make sure the boundaries are set somehow. So your dad knows, knows the score. But, um, yeah, I hope it all goes okay. Uh, thank you for your comments, thank you for listening to the show.

• 17:06Speaker 00

  Really nice advice.

• 17:07Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 17:08Speaker 00

  Really nice.

• 17:08Speaker 01

  I mean, it's very hard to do advice after you absolutely fucking dropped the mic on the last bit.

• 17:14Speaker 00

  Um, I, uh, think that, uh, Tom is exactly right. I think you need to be very clear that you do not wanna be approached. And I think there has to be a ramification for that. I know that sounds weird, but I think you need to say, to protect yourself, you go, if you do contact him, I'm just gonna leave immediately. And you can say that to your brother and you can get him to pass the message on, because you wanna be able to enjoy the wedding day and not have that hovering over you. So I think by making, setting your boundary and making it crystal clear is probably a good thing to do. Um, I think you should go, it'd be terrible not to go, but just be, like, be almost, I would go, almost go over the top

• 17:54Speaker 00

  in you setting out what that expectation is, so that you can then attend that wedding and feel like super comfortable, or as comfortable as you can, you can't be, you cannot be perfectly comfortable in that situation, but I think that's what you have to do. Um, and then if he comes up to you, you can just take yourself out of that situation and your brother will understand. I think you explain it to, to your brother and make it as clear as you, as you possibly can. It's difficult to give any more detailed advice now because we don't know what the ins and outs of the situation are, and nor should we, but I'm just saying, I think a clear, a crystal clear boundary is often the best way.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Agreed.

• 18:27Speaker 00

  Good luck to you.

• 18:30Speaker 00

  Howdy Wolf and Al, greetings from Canada. I'm a newish listener and I want to start by thanking you both for this absolutely hilarious podcast. To get into it, I've been suffering from imposter syndrome for a long while now. I've got no idea. What does that feel like? I recently landed two rather quick promotions at work and I'm now the bar manager while still keeping my previous head bartender role. So rather a lot on my plate. My staff are almost all older than I am and although I know I have their respect, I feel like I don't deserve the position and will somehow let everyone down. Any advice for me? Thanks very much for all the laughs. The garrulous moose.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  Imposter syndrome. Literally.

• 19:05Speaker 00

  Get over it. That's what we do.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  So there's no, there's no part of me that can give really any advice on this without being utterly hypocritical. Cause I've read every book. I've listened to the most of podcasts. I have, me and you spend a lot of time talking about this.

• 19:22Speaker 00

  Endlessly.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  About, from both of our perspectives.

• 19:24Speaker 00

  Endlessly.

• 19:27Speaker 01

  It's probably the thing I speak about most with anyone who will listen. And I still haven't really gotten to the bottom of it. And Ramesh did the thing, I think, actually said to me, I remember calling him in the midst of, I can't remember what was, where I was or what was happening. It was, there was a moment where I should have been very happy. And I spoke to Ramesh and your thing was, the eight-year-old boy in you that went for the stuff, you've always felt that like this level as a loser, I suppose, in a sense. You articulated it a lot better than I am. So the little boy in you is always going to feel this way. You're never ever going to feel you're good enough. And I think that is something that sits with me most of the time. I literally, like, it's an insane thing

• 20:09Speaker 01

  because I know exactly what the problem is, but I made myself very ill with it mentally, physically, like got myself into awful situations through no other reason but my own spiralling or my own fucking neurosis. So it's a very hard thing for me to sit and go, oh no, like, oh, you should think this. Cause it's the stuff that says, people say to me all the time. And I think actually, and the more people you speak to, I guess, the more people suffer with it. It's not like, I would say therapy is a really good thing. I think like to try and get some sort of handle on it. But if I'm honest, I find it, yeah, kind of insincere, me giving any kind of advice. Cause I literally, it's a thing, if I could,

• 20:54Speaker 01

  if I could change any one bit about me as a person and about how my head works day to day, or flick a switch and get rid of any kind of imposter syndrome, it's the one thing I'd change tomorrow. Cause it's the thing that keeps me up at night and it's the thing that just, yeah, yeah. It's unfortunate. Yeah.

• 21:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I, I, I think like imposter syndrome is something me and Tom have both suffered with, struggled with. It's a feeling of not being deserving of what you've got and being found out. But I think, you know, there's, there's a long-term solution and there's a short-term and there's an immediate solution. There's like a coping mechanism, I think. The long-term solution is you look into the reasons for your imposter syndrome and you try and figure out a way of talking to yourself more, training your inner voice to be a bit kinder to yourself. And that actually can help. In terms of the short-term, like immediate, going to work tomorrow, figuring it out. I think what you've got to do is,

• 21:51Speaker 00

  is you can sort of go, if I am an imposter, I'm going to be an imposter that is the best imposter at this job that I can possibly be. And you basically fake it till you make it, I think is, is a good strategy. So rather than going, I don't belong here. You go, well, maybe I don't, but I'm going to prove that actually I do. And then just really go for it. And that will just, and you just, and you do that every day. So you, in the morning, you give yourself a talking to. I feel a bit out of my depth, but I'm going to go for it today. And then you do that. And then that day's out of the way. And then you do that again the next day. And those days start to build up. And before you know it, you're having to have less of a conversation with yourself. And then you, you're doing it naturally. Is the idea. But that's, and it's as easy or as difficult as that. But I think in terms

• 22:36Speaker 00

  of like imposter syndrome, I think it's like, you are younger than all of the people that work for you. You've had two quick promotions. So your imposter syndrome is being fed by your circumstances of, of like these, these quick job jumps. Sometimes you think, why, why has this happened to me? Why has this good thing happened to me? And that feeds your imposter syndrome.

• 22:59Speaker 00

  Look, imagine you are, you know, just qualify. Imagine you are an imposter. You don't deserve this. So what do you want to do? What's your other option? Are you going to go, sorry, you shouldn't have promoted me. Can I go back to my original job? Cause I don't actually deserve this. Of course you're not going to do that. So you might as well take the opportunity you've got and run with it, you know, because loads of people get lucky breaks. I'm not saying you're lucky. Loads of people get lucky breaks. Some people make the most of them. Some people don't. Which one do you want to be? That's my advice.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. Take Romesh's advice. It was a lot more nuanced. It was very good.

• 23:32Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, it's the advice of somebody that's pretending that they don't suffer from crippling imposter syndrome. Thank you so much for listening and watching.

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