KFCereal, Clint Eastwood & Unacceptable Gym Behaviour

Does anybody actually enjoy doing box jumps?! In this episode of Wolf & Owl, Rom relives sandwich induced hate and Tom tried to sabotage Romesh’s career - The Tom Davis Show anyone? They conduct a KFC cereal taste test, chat tattoo plans and as well as a shared hatred of box jumps & yearning to wear tank tops. Plus, controversial takes on Clint Eastwood, hot-takes on hollywood classics and a deep dive into giant celebrities. Got a question, dilemma or poem? Email [email protected] A Ranga Bee Production Chapters 00:00 Intro 00:29 Rom’s Non-Vegan Taste Test? 03:00 Tom’s KFCereal Trial 07:08 Lack of Pod Professionalism 12:28 New Hobbies and Tattoo Plans 17:05 Showbiz Names and Clint Eastwood 27:14 WhatsApp Groups 31:09 Giant Celebs 35:38 Outro Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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• 1:00Speaker 02

  Welcome.

• 1:01Speaker 03

  Hey friends.

• 1:02Speaker 02

  To the Wolf and Al podcast.

• 1:03Speaker 03

  Hey guys.

• 1:04Speaker 02

  With me, Ramesh Wang and Ethan and him.

• 1:06Speaker 03

  Tom Davis or I, Tom Davis.

• 1:08Speaker 02

  Yes, and I hope you're well.

• 1:11Speaker 03

  Hey guys. Hey friend.

• 1:28Speaker 02

  So the other week.

• 1:30Speaker 03

  Yeah darling.

• 1:32Speaker 02

  The other week I was scrolling on Instagram and I came across an advert for Surreal.

• 1:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:41Speaker 02

  Is a cereal company that I.

• 1:42Speaker 03

  I know it well.

• 1:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're not, by the way, it's not sponsored. I just buy Surreal every now and again because it's a protein, high protein cereal. And they said they were doing a crossover with KFC. K F C real. K F cereal.

• 2:02Speaker 03

  Surreal.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  It's two servings. Pardon?

• 2:05Speaker 03

  Surreal.

• 2:06Speaker 02

  No, but this K, it's not K F surreal.

• 2:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  It's K F cereal. K F cereal. Do you get it?

• 2:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Uh, two serving suggestions, one with milk.

• 2:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  One with KFC gravy.

• 2:18Speaker 03

  What's the flavouring of it?

• 2:20Speaker 02

  It's flav- it tastes like KFC.

• 2:22Speaker 03

  What, like chicken? Obviously.

• 2:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I.

• 2:26Speaker 03

  That's a fake chicken cereal.

• 2:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. I bought a box.

• 2:31Speaker 03

  So it's vegan?

• 2:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. And ate, ate a bowl of it. I hope it's vegan. I don't think I double checked.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  Really?

• 2:39Speaker 02

  It feels unlikely that a Kentucky Fried Chicken flavoured, what if it isn't?

• 2:43Speaker 03

  Do you want us to say the same thing that you wouldn't check? It's literally chicken.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  It's just that everything from Surreal is vegan, so I assumed it was as well.

• 2:50Speaker 03

  Chicken flavoured would be the, my go-to, have a little, have a little check there.

• 2:53Speaker 02

  Well, we'll check in a minute because.

• 2:55Speaker 03

  Right.

• 2:55Speaker 02

  I had it with almond milk. The other serving.

• 2:58Speaker 03

  Chicken flavoured?

• 2:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:00Speaker 03

  By the way, that feels a weird thing. Just chicken without my milk. Chicken.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, no, I agree with you, but that was one of the, that's one of the serving suggestions. But the, the superior serving suggestion, which I can't partake in.

• 3:13Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  Is although it sounds like maybe I shouldn't have partaken in it with fucking milk.

• 3:19Speaker 03

  Sounds like you've, yeah, yeah.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  I've absolutely dropped the.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  You've had a dance at a party that you didn't know yet.

• 3:23Speaker 02

  I'm gonna have to fucking, I don't know what I'm gonna have to do. I'm gonna get cancelled again by the plant-based community. Anyway.

• 3:28Speaker 03

  Even if you, even if it is vegan, you're playing fast and loose with your veganism now.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  How do you mean?

• 3:33Speaker 03

  You were taking risks. Even if you get away with this one.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, sure.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  It shows that, yeah.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  We'll have a look in a sec because we, because I bought some, like a fu- like a mug. And they've sent.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  I love the way that you brought it, by the way.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 3:45Speaker 03

  The dedication you showed the world of cereal.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  I don't know, because this could be the end of me. I've bought chicken, I've bought chicken in a box. Chicken in a box.

• 3:52Speaker 03

  Can I just say, this won't be the end.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  Chicken in a car, bar box.

• 3:55Speaker 03

  For the vegans, vegans out there.

• 3:56Speaker 02

  So they have sent us two boxes.

• 3:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  And the other serving suggestion is with KFC gravy.

• 4:03Speaker 03

  Right.

• 4:03Speaker 02

  Now, because I've tried it already and now I'm not sure it's vegan.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  Are you genuinely spiralling a bit?

• 4:09Speaker 02

  No, I'm not spiralling at all.

• 4:11Speaker 03

  If it isn't vegan, what?

• 4:11Speaker 02

  If you've made a mistake.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, what happens?

• 4:13Speaker 02

  Well, some people would go to me, why didn't you check?

• 4:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  Um, so we are now going to, you are now going to.

• 4:20Speaker 03

  Try it.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  Try it.

• 4:22Speaker 03

  For the first time.

• 4:23Speaker 02

  So Alfie, before, if.

• 4:24Speaker 03

  Hello Alfie.

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Do you want to take the bowl off the top?

• 4:27Speaker 03

  Okay. Yeah.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Okay. And now I'm gonna make a discovery for myself as to whether.

• 4:31Speaker 03

  This is all very, this, by the way, lovely packaging. Beautiful.

• 4:34Speaker 02

  So this is it. K F cereal.

• 4:38Speaker 03

  Look at all this. Breakfast for true believers. Pour cereal into a bowl.

• 4:43Speaker 02

  Oh, thank God, it's, it's.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  Taste the future.

• 4:45Speaker 02

  It's vegan. Thank God.

• 4:46Speaker 03

  Gravy on cereal. Lots of people are doubting us right now. Some people are scared. Most people aren't ready, but not you. You believe.

• 4:53Speaker 02

  Now, I've tried this.

• 4:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 4:55Speaker 02

  It says here one gram sugar. I'm amazed that there's any sugar in this at all. But anyway.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Okay, so it's savoury.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  It is the most savoury breakfast cereal I've ever, I bet I've not tried any other savoury breakfast cereals. Although, what's Weetabix?

• 5:08Speaker 03

  Weetabix isn't very sugary.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  That's savoury, right? No, it's sweet. Weetabix is sweet. I do think it is sweet.

• 5:12Speaker 03

  It's got sweetness to it. It's like, it's like digestive biscuits.

• 5:14Speaker 02

  Our palates have all been battered to shit, so we don't think it's sweet, but it is.

• 5:18Speaker 03

  Oh wow.

• 5:19Speaker 02

  So open it up and give us a, give a little smell.

• 5:22Speaker 03

  This is kind of a new angle that we could, quite, quite tough little packets to open, aren't they? Not for you, obviously you've been working out quite a lot, so.

• 5:30Speaker 02

  So, I mean, the thing is, I'm not a good, uh.

• 5:33Speaker 03

  How much was the serving today?

• 5:34Speaker 02

  Forty-eight grams.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  That's about thirty. That's forty. That's forty-three. Are you really believing what I'm saying? I've got no idea.

• 5:45Speaker 03

  I thought you did.

• 5:46Speaker 02

  I've got no idea. I'm. That looks about right, Tom. Yeah.

• 5:48Speaker 03

  That is okay. Yeah, I mean, that's a half a bowl of cereal that I'd usually have.

• 5:51Speaker 02

  We've got some gravy. Do you want to?

• 5:52Speaker 03

  I'm a beautiful assistant.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Do you want me to hold the bowl and you can pour the gravy in?

• 5:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, go on.

• 6:01Speaker 03

  I mean, it's lukewarm.

• 6:02Speaker 02

  How much are you gonna?

• 6:05Speaker 03

  Oh my God, that is grim. I know, that looks disgusting.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  I'm not convinced by this at all as a serving suggestion, but anyway.

• 6:12Speaker 03

  I just say, that gravy.

• 6:14Speaker 02

  I'd mix it up a little bit.

• 6:15Speaker 03

  Oh, do you think? You're not gonna eat it like that. I'd be eating a big spoonful of gravy, my love. That is.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  What do you think, first of all?

• 6:25Speaker 03

  It looks like dog food, doesn't it? Or cat food.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Hmm. All cereal does in fairness.

• 6:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. I'm slightly worried this isn't hot enough.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  Well, I don't think it's gonna kill you, mate. Just get it down, you little bitch.

• 6:35Speaker 03

  I'm very anal about things like this.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  That's what I say to my kids.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  That's good. With the gravy, that's good.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Yeah?

• 6:49Speaker 02

  Hmm. What do you think?

• 6:51Speaker 03

  With the gravy, I mean, KFC gravy is delicious.

• 6:54Speaker 02

  You're right.

• 6:55Speaker 03

  I mean, it's very salty. You're in a big old.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  The cereal's quite salty.

• 6:59Speaker 03

  Yeah. But that's good. I'd, I'd genuinely, yeah. This would be a good late night snack.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  Right.

• 7:04Speaker 03

  Because it's not sweet.

• 7:05Speaker 02

  What do you think of the cereal? Do you think the cereal tastes like KFC?

• 7:08Speaker 03

  I mean, I can't imagine what it would taste like with milk.

• 7:09Speaker 02

  I had it with milk and I didn't mind it, but it says here that milk is, actually, milk is not a serving suggestion. I made a huge error.

• 7:16Speaker 03

  What? Milk isn't?

• 7:18Speaker 02

  It says here, look, we're just gonna say it. Milk on cereal, it's been done. There are other liquids out there which deserve their shot at the big leagues. What about lemonade on cereal or matcha? Minestrone soup, where you feel like really going for it. What about pouring a ta- tasty pot of KFC gravy all over your K F cereal? We're telling you it's the future. So actually I did it wrong, it looks like.

• 7:39Speaker 03

  Can I say that, I, I think if you had more gravy on it, can I say as well, that would, I think these would be good if you put them in like a minestrone, actually like a soup.

• 7:48Speaker 02

  Right.

• 7:48Speaker 03

  Like the Whatsets.

• 7:49Speaker 02

  Like the Whatsets. You think this could be your new Whatset thing?

• 7:51Speaker 03

  No, I mean, nothing's ever gonna take over Whatset, apart from the fact these have actually got a decent amount of protein in.

• 7:57Speaker 02

  Well, look, I hope you enjoyed this episode of Wolf and Al. We probably went early with the taste test.

• 8:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, you really went in.

• 8:04Speaker 02

  Haven't really thought about what else we're gonna talk about.

• 8:08Speaker 03

  You, you love a crunch on, remember when you used to eat sandwiches and stuff in the early days?

• 8:12Speaker 02

  It happened once. I, I was going to the airport to go on a Disney holiday with my family and we had to record the episode in the morning before I went to the airport. So I was a little bit under the cosh. I hadn't eaten anything. So I ate a sandwich while we were doing the podcast. And then I got to Disney and we're in the queue for Tower of Terror. Some guy, I just, I just looked in the, the podcast emails and some guy was just fucking absolutely unloading on me.

• 8:41Speaker 03

  He went crazy.

• 8:42Speaker 02

  So angry. How fucking dare you? Like, it was like, show a bit of professionalism. People have got to listen to, got this in your ears, you fucking eating your sandwich, you're taking your fucking, like, really angry.

• 8:53Speaker 03

  By the way, can I, in your defence, it took you longer because you were eating really delicately.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  I know, but really, actually, I think I should have just taken it on the chin and smashed through it.

• 9:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, also we could have probably just held on for.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  I mean, could it, really, the most professional thing is to eat the sandwich afterwards. It's not like it takes a long time to eat a sandwich. It takes forty-five minutes on a do it on a podcast.

• 9:12Speaker 03

  You're saving it through the whole thing.

• 9:14Speaker 02

  I was starving. I had, I had to leave the minute we finished the podcast.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I remember. I remember that, yeah.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  You know, those were the days.

• 9:21Speaker 03

  I think this was a bigger.

• 9:22Speaker 02

  Those were the days when I had to work around you, remember?

• 9:26Speaker 03

  Now I'm just around all the time.

• 9:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, you're not around all the, you're more difficult to book. You're actually a booking nightmare for this podcast.

• 9:34Speaker 03

  Can I say, this was a big risk though.

• 9:36Speaker 02

  A lot of bit, sorry, no, this was a big risk, but I just wanna say.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  There's a lot of chat. I know that the running joke is like, I'm busy and I want everything. I'm always working. Of the two of us now, you're way busier than I am.

• 9:51Speaker 03

  I, yeah, I'm having a bit of a purple patch.

• 9:53Speaker 02

  Hmm. Or a purple patch or family neglect, you know, potato, potato.

• 9:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, my, my, my dream of being as much like you as I possibly can be to emulate you is, yeah.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  Look, people don't believe me. It's the big step back, baby. You know, people need to enjoy me while they can. One day.

• 10:14Speaker 03

  Devout, like they've been devouring you on, um, the traitors.

• 10:16Speaker 02

  They're not just devouring me, they're sick of me, right?

• 10:19Speaker 03

  I don't think people are sick of you. Do you know, I think we have a misconception of like, I think there'll be people out there who would have that thing of, oh, they're always like, like, I, I, I had people saying to me, can I just say, oh, you haven't done anything for a while, uh, what, what's going on? And I was like, no, I have been doing loads of different things. It's just you wait for ages for them to come out.

• 10:42Speaker 02

  The way you looked across, it was like John is the one that said that to you.

• 10:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, who was John? John was like, what's going on? We might have to drop you from the podcast because you're not doing enough on TV or film. Um, and then all of a sudden everything's coming out.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  That was the case, you wouldn't even start the podcast.

• 10:56Speaker 03

  But, yeah, but all of a sudden everything's coming out at once. And now it's like I'm.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  You, look, let's be honest, you and I are at two different parts of our journey. You're like this and I'm like this.

• 11:09Speaker 03

  No, you, you, you, I think you're still, mate.

• 11:11Speaker 02

  I'm talking about intent. You, I'm talking about intent.

• 11:15Speaker 03

  What do you mean intent?

• 11:17Speaker 02

  I, I'm chilling out.

• 11:19Speaker 03

  Oh, no, no, no, no, no.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Don't worry, John, I'm still doing the podcast. He always gets, I always see a little bit of nervousness in his, in his cute little face. Although, although it could be the point where I think, cause you're like, you've got so much stuff coming out and you're a film star. And your stand up tour is better than the last one. So you're, you're heading up and up and up. There's a good chance one day John's gonna say to me, Ramesh, how do you feel about the Tom Davis show?

• 11:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 11:50Speaker 02

  And then I go, what else are you gonna change? Nothing. I don't think Tom's mum will be on the Thursday episodes. Well, there's another bit of news for you. Your mum, when we suggested Tom comes in, completely unbothered.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  I, no, I, I, I'm, I'm actually, I've taken time to chill with it.

• 12:11Speaker 02

  Have you? Yeah.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  Given the nature of things.

• 12:13Speaker 02

  Today, you, you arrived here having had brunch.

• 12:16Speaker 03

  With Catherine.

• 12:16Speaker 02

  With Catherine.

• 12:17Speaker 03

  Had a nice day. I've been dropping grace at school.

• 12:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:19Speaker 03

  I mean, still working hard, but then like the things that I.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  A little bit of balance.

• 12:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, but also the things that I, this podcast, for example, I adore.

• 12:27Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 12:27Speaker 03

  I, I enjoy it. Do you know this part of everything I do, it's the one thing, I have so much anxiety about most of the things that I do.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 12:35Speaker 03

  Like genuinely, I was, I was telling you a story about earlier about a situation I've been on and the thing I've been filming. Where I just went crazy. I was, I got my, for no other reason but my own fucking mental insecurities.

• 12:46Speaker 02

  You thought she was gonna go to the press?

• 12:50Speaker 03

  And as a Labrador, it was a dream.

• 12:54Speaker 04

  Tom, I'm gonna have to ask you if you could sit up because your knee at the moment is across Ramesh's face.

• 13:02Speaker 04

  I'm so sorry.

• 13:03Speaker 02

  By the way, that is textbook, the sort of thing you're gonna be doing more and more of.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  Anyway, bloody hell.

• 13:15Speaker 03

  It's a bizarre thing.

• 13:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  But I.

• 13:18Speaker 02

  What's a bizarre thing?

• 13:19Speaker 03

  There's everyone, the perception everyone has of like, oh, you're this busy, you're that busy.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:25Speaker 03

  Um, but have, have you thought any more about hobbies? Things that you're gonna do?

• 13:30Speaker 02

  What, when I step back?

• 13:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, the cycling, that's not gonna be a thing.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  What's not?

• 13:34Speaker 03

  Cycling.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  I don't think so. Well, I did look into it.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  What about paddle? You, you say, I thought, no?

• 13:40Speaker 02

  No. Although I, I read somewhere that that sort of explosive, that sort of explosive sport is actually the best thing you can do for men of our age.

• 13:49Speaker 03

  Really?

• 13:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. Sort of ju, things that make you jump and hop and have to surprise, like, you know, surprise your body. For agility. Cause what you're, what are you doing now? You're doing weightlifting.

• 14:01Speaker 03

  And golf.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  And golf, right? Which is a very specific.

• 14:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, two very sedated type, yeah.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  And you're doing a bit of walking.

• 14:08Speaker 03

  Quite a lot of walking.

• 14:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, all right. Okay. It's not a flex. Anyway, so the point is.

• 14:13Speaker 03

  Become a flex.

• 14:13Speaker 02

  The point is.

• 14:14Speaker 03

  Ten thousand steps.

• 14:15Speaker 02

  The point is.

• 14:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 14:17Speaker 02

  Um, what we're not doing enough of is, is movement based stuff.

• 14:21Speaker 03

  Box jumps, that kind of thing.

• 14:22Speaker 02

  That sort of thing. But who the fuck wants to do box jumps? So the idea is.

• 14:25Speaker 03

  There's a guy in my gym who fucking loves box jumping.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  What I would say is, I wouldn't go out for a drink with him.

• 14:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, yeah. But he, it like, when he's peacocking in the gym.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:36Speaker 03

  He, you know, he'll jump five of those.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:39Speaker 03

  And when he does it, what have, you know.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:42Speaker 03

  Do you ever, you go, do you go to a gym or do you?

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Not anymore, no.

• 14:45Speaker 03

  So I, I go, I go to the gym sometimes. And when I go.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  So you've got a gym in your house and you also go to the gym?

• 14:53Speaker 03

  In my house, I've got some.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  Tom, I've been to your house.

• 14:57Speaker 03

  But there's stuff that I.

• 14:58Speaker 02

  Some weights in your house, full gym with a staff member. Is, is, is some weights in your house?

• 15:04Speaker 03

  P T who sits there fucking six days a week. Come, Tom Davis is P T. Yeah, I work like one day a week, when he could be bothered. Um, I, no, but I quite like the going to the gym. I quite like the, the feeling of being in one. But this guy, there's this guy who, who does the box jumps, who celebrates when he does stuff.

• 15:21Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  Like he, he's like, if, if he's on the leg, the, the leg push thing, you know, the one you do that with.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  He will like get his record.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Tom, I know I don't go to a gym much. How much explaining do you think I need?

• 15:35Speaker 03

  I don't know if you know, you, you, which, cause you might have thought I meant that.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  A leg push?

• 15:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:39Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 15:39Speaker 03

  Or you might have thought I meant that one, the hamstring one. Do you know what I mean?

• 15:43Speaker 02

  Anyway, he's on the leg push.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  And if he gets his P B, his personal best, he will fucking let the whole gym know.

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Thanks for clarifying what P B stands for.

• 15:51Speaker 03

  And he wears a, he wears.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  And what is gym short for?

• 15:54Speaker 03

  What? Gymnasium?

• 15:58Speaker 03

  He wears one of those really like, you know, like the vests that are really thin there.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  To wear a vest.

• 16:03Speaker 03

  And it just goes over his nipples and opens up.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  I'd love that. I'd love one of those, I'd love one of those sleeveless t-shirts where it's cut right the way down to here.

• 16:11Speaker 03

  I've got one of those.

• 16:12Speaker 02

  I'm sure you have, but what I'm saying is I'd love to have the, the body where I'd feel good about.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  You could wear one of those?

• 16:16Speaker 02

  No.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  They conceal a lot. You've got nice arms as well and shoulders.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  No, I couldn't wear that.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  You could.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  Would you wear that out and about?

• 16:23Speaker 03

  Just, no. No, I might go for a coffee after or some eggs.

• 16:26Speaker 02

  Of course you would.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean?

• 16:27Speaker 02

  Some of the mums?

• 16:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, maybe. No, but you, you've got.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  I think it's over there.

• 16:33Speaker 03

  Why are you doing that? You've.

• 16:36Speaker 03

  You've got no triceps. You can look, you're just straight arms, nothing. Um, you don't care. Um, the, you've got good arms, you've got good shoulders.

• 16:47Speaker 02

  That is very sweet of you to say.

• 16:48Speaker 03

  You have. And you've got those sweet tattoos that are concealed.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  What's going on with your tattoo thing, by the way?

• 16:54Speaker 03

  I'm gonna get back, I, I can't, I'm like, cause I'm filming.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  You don't need to get back into it.

• 16:57Speaker 03

  No, I'm filming.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  What are they saying about your hand tats now? Are they gonna be covered?

• 17:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're gonna.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  And then what's gonna happen to this?

• 17:03Speaker 03

  It's all gonna be covered.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  All gonna be covered.

• 17:04Speaker 03

  Um, although, and I've got this one designed for my calf, my calf, so that's my next.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  Do you, do you need, when do you need me to pose for it?

• 17:12Speaker 03

  Um, I would, I've already got one of you.

• 17:14Speaker 02

  I know, I know.

• 17:15Speaker 03

  I like a cowboy shooting another cowboy. So it's that one, he's got, like, they've had a quick draw. So he's like that and the other one's like that, getting shot.

• 17:21Speaker 02

  What, on the other car?

• 17:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  It's a nice idea.

• 17:24Speaker 03

  So I think it'd be quite cool.

• 17:25Speaker 02

  What, where did you come up with that idea?

• 17:27Speaker 03

  I've seen it on someone else.

• 17:28Speaker 02

  Okay, fine.

• 17:29Speaker 03

  And also me and my dad used to love a western.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 17:32Speaker 03

  So it's quite a cool thing to stand that as a, yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  Is that why when I first met your dad, he said, I'd love to see some feathers on your head?

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• 18:13Speaker 01

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• 18:26Speaker 02

  Leads were slow. Yeah, it it wasn't.

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• 18:46Speaker 02

  When he said, the first time he met me, he said, nice to meet you, chief.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  What the fuck's that all about?

• 18:57Speaker 02

  I used to love a western, man.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  I love a western.

• 18:59Speaker 02

  Fistful of dollars?

• 19:00Speaker 03

  Love Fistful of Dollars. Jeremiah Johnson. Do you know my mum and dad would call me Jeremiah after Jeremiah Johnson?

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Jeremiah Davis. JD, you'd have been JD.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  Jerry for short.

• 19:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, nice. Jerry Davis.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:13Speaker 02

  It's quite a show busy name.

• 19:15Speaker 03

  It's more show busy than Tom Davis.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 19:17Speaker 03

  Tom Davis is so boring. Jeremiah would have been a fucking great name. You could do some serious work. Hi, I'm Jeremiah. And also being six foot seven called Jeremiah, I think that's a flex.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  That's a great name.

• 19:30Speaker 02

  They call you Jeremiah the Giant, though, that's a problem.

• 19:33Speaker 03

  Yeah, Jerry the Giant. Giant Jerry. Big Jerry. Big Jerry's a cool thing. Big Jerry.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, Big J, Big Jerry.

• 19:41Speaker 03

  We could have been a double act of joy. Jerry and Jonathan.

• 19:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, JJ's.

• 19:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:48Speaker 02

  Welcome to the JJ podcast. I'm Jonathan.

• 19:51Speaker 03

  The ending of.

• 19:53Speaker 02

  And I'm.

• 19:54Speaker 03

  I'm Jeremiah.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, try and yes hand me if you can.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  The ending of Jeremiah Johnson is heartbreaking. It's one of the best. That is a great western.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  I've not seen it.

• 20:03Speaker 03

  You should watch it.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  What year did it come out?

• 20:05Speaker 03

  I don't know, seventy eight.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  Seventy eight, okay.

• 20:08Speaker 03

  It's a really, really, it's a beautiful film.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  And do you watch him with your, because my mum used to really fancy Clint Eastwood.

• 20:14Speaker 03

  Oh, of course.

• 20:14Speaker 02

  Did you see that clip with Ray Liotta? Am I, have I had too much caffeine or something? Did you see that clip with Ray Liotta where he said Clint Eastwood's the most overrated actor?

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Ray Liotta said that?

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:24Speaker 03

  That's a big thing for Ray Liotta.

• 20:25Speaker 02

  Well, he was on a chat show and they said, it was like one of these, I think it was with, who's the guy that does all of the? Andy, oh, who's the guy that does all the?

• 20:36Speaker 03

  Andy Serkis?

• 20:37Speaker 02

  No, the guy that hosts all of the like Below Deck reunion and all that. Do you know who I'm talking about? There's one guy that does it all.

• 20:45Speaker 03

  Fuck, Andy. By the way, I knew Below Deck at tonight. I just thought about that.

• 20:50Speaker 02

  I need to catch up. I'm behind, mate.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  Cohen.

• 20:52Speaker 02

  Andy Cohen, Andy Cohen, yeah, that's one, that's one, yeah. So him.

• 20:55Speaker 03

  He's fucking smooth, isn't he, Andy Cohen?

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, his hair looks really different to.

• 20:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, he does. He looks different there.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Anyway, Andy Cohen, who's quite good at getting a sort of, asking snarky shitty questions.

• 21:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  So he asks Ray Liotta, I'm pretty sure it's him in the clip, he says to Ray Liotta, who's the most overrated actor? It's on behalf of a viewer or something. And without hesitation, Ray Liotta says Clint Eastwood.

• 21:17Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 21:18Speaker 02

  And then they, everyone's sort of shocked and he goes, well, I don't give a shit.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  You've got to rate Ray Liotta for that.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  I don't.

• 21:23Speaker 03

  Clint Eastwood does kind of do the same thing in everything. Like, not he's a bad actor because he's a good actor, but he's not like, he's not someone who's got an incredible range.

• 21:32Speaker 02

  Okay, fine. I've, I've, I've got, I've got nothing to back with that. I don't know. You're more of an acting expert than me.

• 21:40Speaker 03

  No, no, no, this is, look, some, I will say this, incredible actors who are brilliant enough and have enough fucking screen presence to be able to do their thing really, really well in any number of films. But Clint Eastwood, like if I, I go, um, play Misty for me. It's an amazing film. He's incredible. And he's playing a disc, like a DJ in that, a radio, like you. He's a disc jockey, right? Radio presenter. And he still, and he still plays the kind of same thing.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  Do you know, first of all, I was doing a Clint Eastwood impression that whole time.

• 22:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, I didn't want to.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  The, um, Any Which Way But Loose.

• 22:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  Love that film.

• 22:18Speaker 03

  But would you say any, his performance is wildly different from?

• 22:21Speaker 02

  I think, if I was being honest.

• 22:23Speaker 03

  Gran Turismo.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  I think Clive the orangutan gives as good a performance.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  Clive is amazing. What my point is, is, yeah, I can kind of, but Ray Liotta's surely answering that.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  No, it came to him quickly. So.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, because probably Ray Liotta's sitting around with Bobby De Niro and everyone else.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I guess so.

• 22:41Speaker 03

  Taking the mick out of.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 22:43Speaker 03

  They're like, oh, fucking Clint's got a new movie out. Oh, yeah, I guess he's doing the same thing. Do you think those guys spitball and take the piss out of people like that?

• 22:49Speaker 02

  Maybe, but I don't think Robert De Niro can be telling anyone about doing the same thing over and over again.

• 22:53Speaker 03

  You could, Robert De Niro is a fucking, he is, he's got some.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  No, we've had this conversation before.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  Bobby De.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  I likes, I likes, I unfortunately have this horrible habit of enjoying saying something that will piss people off.

• 23:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:07Speaker 02

  I don't mean that.

• 23:07Speaker 03

  You're like the Ray Liotta of this podcast.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  A little bit, yeah.

• 23:10Speaker 03

  Ray Liotta, by the way, range wise, isn't, you know.

• 23:14Speaker 02

  What else has Ray Liotta been in apart from Goodfellas?

• 23:18Speaker 03

  He, oh, he was in Killing Me Softly. Great in that.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Right.

• 23:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, he.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Let's have a look at his, shall we look at his filmography? Oh, he played one of the neighbours in Home Alone.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  He's, by the way, weirdly like, he's handsome, but not in a conventional way.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:33Speaker 03

  Apparently amazing. He was an amazing screen kisser.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  What does that mean? What does that mean? He's an amazing kisser?

• 23:39Speaker 03

  The screen kissing, he was a really, really good kisser.

• 23:42Speaker 04

  Marriage Story?

• 23:44Speaker 02

  Never heard of that.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  It's the one where, that's the one where Adam Driver loses shit.

• 23:48Speaker 03

  That's fucking incredible. That's an amazing film.

• 23:50Speaker 04

  Punched a hole in the wall.

• 23:51Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I do know that film.

• 23:52Speaker 03

  I forgot he was in, I forgot Ray Liotta was in that.

• 23:54Speaker 02

  Marriage Story, though, is a bit of a generic name, though, isn't it?

• 23:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, it wasn't a great name.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  Okay. He says trying to defend his lack of film knowledge. Stretch.

• 24:04Speaker 03

  Oh, Field of Dreams is great. Kevin Costner.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  Field of Dreams, we did something about movies. I had to recreate that scene with, um, with Ralph Spall.

• 24:15Speaker 03

  Ralph Spall is a cool guy, mate.

• 24:16Speaker 02

  Mate, what, what, what an actor, by the way.

• 24:18Speaker 03

  Generation. You should get him on the other.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Mate, unbelievable.

• 24:20Speaker 03

  You should get him on the other podcast.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, we do.

• 24:22Speaker 03

  He's great.

• 24:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, he might come off.

• 24:23Speaker 03

  Place beyond the pines, by the way, Ray Liotta is amazing in that.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Dominic and Eugene, love that.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Do you really? What's that about?

• 24:29Speaker 02

  So good. Um, it's like, um, it's like a road trip thing where they have to go from, uh, Paris to Bucharest to deliver this package, but they have to do it by road or whatever. It's mad.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  He'll buy it, is it? Lee Howards?

• 24:42Speaker 02

  I've never, literally, this is the first time I've ever heard those words. Kill the Messenger.

• 24:46Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, he plays the messenger.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, unlawful entry. He plays the guy entering.

• 24:50Speaker 03

  Cop, he's sick in Copland.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's at Copland.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  Copland is one of, Copland, they're making a TV show, Copland. Is it, that, that film is one of the greatest films.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Killing them.

• 24:59Speaker 03

  But you're gonna come at them head on? That's what he says to De Niro. One of my favourite bits of film. You're gonna come at them head on?

• 25:09Speaker 03

  De Niro's like, no, he says it to Sly Stallone.

• 25:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  Sly Stallone, by the way.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  What does he say?

• 25:14Speaker 03

  Sly Stallone just does this.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  What does he say?

• 25:16Speaker 03

  That's what he does, right?

• 25:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. And what does Ray Liotta say?

• 25:19Speaker 03

  You're gonna come at them head on?

• 25:24Speaker 03

  And then Bobby De, everyone's doing their thing. Bobby De Niro does his thing. He goes, I give you a chance. I give you the chance to get out of this life. Sly Stallone's a sh.

• 25:38Speaker 02

  Uh, The Iceman.

• 25:39Speaker 03

  Great film.

• 25:40Speaker 02

  Great film. Date Night, unbelievable film.

• 25:42Speaker 03

  He's on the date or he's?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Don't know, I've never seen it. Youth in Revolt. Oh, he was in Cocaine Bear.

• 25:48Speaker 03

  I auditioned for Cocaine Bear. You know this story?

• 25:51Speaker 02

  Oh, I do know this story.

• 25:52Speaker 03

  Yeah. I auditioned for Cocaine.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  No, you didn't audition for Cocaine.

• 25:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, I auditioned for Cocaine.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  No, you didn't.

• 25:56Speaker 03

  I swear I auditioned for.

• 25:57Speaker 02

  I thought you auditioned for Yeti.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  I auditioned for Yeti and didn't get it, and Cocaine Bear.

• 26:02Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  Anything with a big fucking like bear like creature, I auditioned. I wish it was the bear in Cocaine Bear. That'd have been fun.

• 26:08Speaker 02

  How big was the part?

• 26:09Speaker 03

  Doing with my life. Um, it was a big part and then, so what happened? I auditioned for one of the leads, didn't get it.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  Right.

• 26:16Speaker 03

  Then I auditioned for a smaller part, didn't get it. And then they called me and they were like, um, would you want to be, would you want to be in this as one of the people who gets eaten quite quickly? And it was, I was like, I don't know, it feels just, and I tell, yeah, I was just like, no, it was literally one line of me going, what, a bear?

• 26:33Speaker 02

  Well, I'm doing that. Identity, great film.

• 26:36Speaker 03

  Really?

• 26:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Never heard of it.

• 26:38Speaker 02

  Uh, Nineteen Ninety Two.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  Which was made in two thousand and twenty four.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  Snowmen. And then, oh my, this, Muppets from Space. Ray Liotta was in Muppets from Space.

• 26:49Speaker 03

  He was in two Muppets movies.

• 26:51Speaker 02

  He played guardian of the gate, number one, fucking hell.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  Fucking die, it's so sad. Can I say it's, Ray Liotta, right, is arguably one of the most fucking incredible films ever made in Goodfellas. Goodfellas is, right?

• 27:07Speaker 02

  Great film.

• 27:08Speaker 03

  And some of the stuff.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  Great film, but, but welcome to Hot Takes with Tom and Rom.

• 27:12Speaker 03

  Look, what I'm saying is you, you look at and go, Ray Liotta is a bona fide film star and literally me and you're going through that and you're like, I don't know.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  That's probably what Clint Eastwood did after we watched that clip.

• 27:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course, because Clint Eastwood, you're gonna go for his fucking, and it's an Oscar winner, right? Tombstone he's got in. Not Tombstone, what's the one, um, he directed, the western.

• 27:31Speaker 04

  Who's this?

• 27:31Speaker 03

  It's Clint Eastwood, Unforgotten, Unforgiven.

• 27:34Speaker 02

  Unforgiven?

• 27:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's great in that.

• 27:36Speaker 02

  Hmm. You know what I liked? My favourite thing that Clint Eastwood has done is, uh, pretending that Barack Obama's sat in that chair.

• 27:44Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 27:45Speaker 02

  Have you not seen it?

• 27:46Speaker 03

  No.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  Fuck me in the eyes, you have not seen this.

• 27:50Speaker 03

  No.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  He's doing a thing where he's talking to Barack Obama. Barack Obama's not there.

• 27:56Speaker 03

  We talked to an empty chair.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  Correct. Eastwood uses empty chair as proper R and C. Have a listen.

• 28:07Speaker 03

  Why do a roast essentially to someone who's not there?

• 28:10Speaker 02

  It's so mad.

• 28:12Speaker 03

  It's insane. By the way, ripping the gig.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, they love it.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  If you are at the moment, you, you keep on talking, if you could do that and you could just pick anyone to roast on stage, or any of us could, but I'm just saying it'd be a funny thing for you to do.

• 28:26Speaker 02

  Why are you putting this on me?

• 28:28Speaker 03

  No, I'm just saying.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  So I've just gone to you, I've highlighted that as the worst thing ever.

• 28:32Speaker 03

  He is ripping that.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  You should put that into your act.

• 28:36Speaker 02

  He's ripping it because he's laying in on Barack Obama.

• 28:38Speaker 03

  Which by the way, isn't, he's, I'm saying, Barack Obama's incredible. I'm just saying that there's people you could put on stage, right, that you could rip into who aren't even there and just see how that went.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. You could do it with Ross Kemp.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  I, I do some stuff on Ross Kemp, you know that.

• 28:56Speaker 03

  I mean, that could be a different angle for doing it for Ross Kemp. Imagine if Ross Kemp was sitting here right now, I'd be like, Ross, what are you doing? Why are you so blooming angry about those football, about the football? Why are you so angry? No, I won't go and do that to myself because I can't, Ross. Are you still in a WhatsApp group with them now?

• 29:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:15Speaker 03

  How is it?

• 29:16Speaker 02

  Nice, good. There's probably another group though, isn't there?

• 29:18Speaker 03

  No, you're not the guy who's getting left out of groups.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  Well, you don't, you don't know.

• 29:23Speaker 03

  Right, mate, a hundred, I do know, a hundred percent, you're, you're never ever going to be in the bottom five of any group.

• 29:29Speaker 02

  I think I could be.

• 29:30Speaker 03

  No, I can tell you now, you've got too much swag, you've got too much sway.

• 29:34Speaker 02

  You're saying, you're projecting because you're worried that you're, you are one of the top.

• 29:38Speaker 03

  Oh, no, I definitely would be.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  What are you talking about?

• 29:40Speaker 03

  Definitely.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  You're, you're fucking, you're Jeremiah Davis.

• 29:44Speaker 03

  In my dreams I am, in my dreams. No, I think, I think I could well be. I, I, yeah, because I, I, I would, I think there's an element of me that could be annoying in a group.

• 29:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 29:55Speaker 03

  Whereas I don't think you comment enough and I think people would say something, oh God, have I annoyed Ron? Because he's not said anything. Whereas I, if someone cracks something, a joke, I, I, I'm in a group at the moment for the job I'm on, I will comment to, if someone puts something in, I'll feel bad if someone doesn't say something to that, but like, someone will just put something in, should we, da, da, da, and I'll just go, oh yeah, you know, thumbs up emoji, laugh emoji, or hey, great idea. Oh, nice one, cool, see you soon.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  You know, I've got loads and loads of cousins.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:23Speaker 02

  Right. And some of them I don't really know that well.

• 30:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:26Speaker 02

  So we're all spread all over the world or whatever. And one of them bumped into, uh, he was, he'd, he'd flown over to England, but this is how little we know each other. We didn't meet up or anything. Right. So we're like, we're, we're not close. And so this is a big family, the big cousin WhatsApp group.

• 30:45Speaker 03

  How many people in it?

• 30:47Speaker 02

  I'd say like 25, something like.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  Pretty cool.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  So on that group.

• 30:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:53Speaker 02

  After his visits to London, he posted a photo of a waiter and said, Ramesh, this is at me, Ramesh, this, um, guy said he's a big fan of yours. Fine, fairly innocuous. And I told him, it was something like, I told him how much worse your eye looks like in real life and, or some like slam like that, right? And then all of, and all of the, all of the other cousins did like a little la, they all like did the laughing face emoji. Loads of them I don't really know that well. And I haven't seen for years and years. And I just, and to be honest with you, I was just like, what the fuck is, I'm getting fucking roasted by this guy that I

• 31:33Speaker 02

  don't know, right? And he's rinsed me. And then when I saw all the emoji, I was like, oh, I'm a fucking mug on this group. Do you know what I mean?

• 31:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's not cool.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  I thought about leaving, but then I thought, you can't leave the family. That's something my mum would come and speak to me about. I've heard, oh my God, oh my God, the shame. You've left the bloody, do you really leave the cousin WhatsApp group?

• 31:54Speaker 03

  That's kind of bullying.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  It is. It was, it felt like bullying in the moment.

• 31:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  So I just want to say to my cousins on that group, I won't put it on the WhatsApp group, but fuck you for that.

• 32:02Speaker 03

  Can I say, by the way, he's, you know what's happened here?

• 32:04Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 32:05Speaker 03

  He is like, he, he's basically gone into a restaurant and shown off that he's your cousin.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  The waiter's gone, I love that guy. He's one of my favourite friends, he's really, really funny.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  So he's tried to show that he knows me.

• 32:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. But then he's felt, felt somewhat emasculated on the basis that the waiter really likes you.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 32:24Speaker 03

  Right? So he, he, instead of, this is what happens a lot, especially with men. It happens to me all the time. So instead of just someone going, oh, I bumped it, it happens all the time. Seen someone at the pub, uh, this is when I get a lot. Soon as someone at the pub, uh, yeah, he said you were really, really funny. Not, he said, you're not as funny as Ramesh, or you're not as funny as Rob Beckett, you're not, you know. So instead of just going, here's a compliment.

• 32:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:48Speaker 03

  Men are in a way that men can't just do that. It happens all the time.

• 32:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:52Speaker 03

  They can't just go, well done. So what I have to do is clarify it then with a slam or some shitty bit about.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  We are awful, aren't we?

• 32:59Speaker 03

  We're, I never do that.

• 33:00Speaker 02

  No, but I, I mean, the gender.

• 33:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, the gender are, but we, it's a, we need a lot, we, it's a lot of work.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  We are awful.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  There's a lot of work to be done. Cause I just think, just, it, it's the same thing of like when, when you do a gig sometimes.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  Hmm. You keep trying to get your leg into my shot, don't you?

• 33:13Speaker 03

  No, no.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  You're trying to define different ways of doing it.

• 33:16Speaker 03

  I've got a problem with my hips.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  What's the problem?

• 33:18Speaker 03

  I've been like, you know, I, this is the thing I'm paranoid about.

• 33:21Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 33:21Speaker 03

  A lot of giants, like Andre the Giant.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Are you a giant, by the way?

• 33:25Speaker 03

  I actually apparently am, I'm six eight, so.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  You're, you're, you're not six eight?

• 33:29Speaker 03

  I am. I measured, Rob Beckett measured me.

• 33:32Speaker 02

  Oh, so this was in the golf video, weren't you? Because you guys are trying to set up a different thing, aren't you?

• 33:36Speaker 03

  Just in a golf league, yeah, yeah. Well, this is, this isn't like a, that's not like a YouTube thing. We're gonna go like, do a sort of like whole sports league.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  Right.

• 33:44Speaker 03

  Of golf, really bad golfers.

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Is this a TV show idea now it's gonna come?

• 33:47Speaker 03

  I don't know what it'll be. It's just me and him playing golf badly. But anyway.

• 33:51Speaker 02

  So he measured you and you're six eight?

• 33:53Speaker 03

  So I'm a six eight.

• 33:54Speaker 02

  So when, when were you measured to be six, seven?

• 33:58Speaker 03

  Probably about three, two, three years.

• 34:00Speaker 02

  By who?

• 34:01Speaker 03

  I was on a job I was on.

• 34:02Speaker 02

  So they measured you and then Rob Beckett has measured you?

• 34:06Speaker 03

  Peter Crouch is quite substantially taller than me.

• 34:08Speaker 02

  Right.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  Have you seen, you know Peter, don't you?

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Pete, yeah, I know Peter.

• 34:11Speaker 03

  Pete is fucking.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's a tall guy, yeah. I don't think you need to know him to know that.

• 34:14Speaker 03

  No, no, but no, I always thought I'm the same height as Peter Crouch.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Right. How tall is he?

• 34:19Speaker 03

  He's got to be two inches taller than me, three inches taller. And Greg Davies is taller than me.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  So he's six, 10?

• 34:25Speaker 03

  I think, yeah, Peter Crouch could be six, nine maybe. He's tall, man. He's really tall. And Greg, Greg Davies is tall, tall.

• 34:32Speaker 02

  Is Peter Crouch taller?

• 34:33Speaker 03

  Six, seven is a, is a height that we say.

• 34:35Speaker 02

  Is Peter Crouch taller than you? Because he's six, seven.

• 34:38Speaker 03

  No, no, no. See, this is the thing. What do we all have in common? Me, Greg Davies, Stephen Merchant.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  Tiny cocks.

• 34:44Speaker 03

  Yep. Peter Crouch, right?

• 34:46Speaker 02

  Right.

• 34:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. No, one of those, I can only verify one of us as a tiny cock.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's Stephen Merchant.

• 34:53Speaker 03

  Stephen Merchant's got a beautiful big cock. Um, all of us say we're six, seven. Cause I think six, seven is the height where you feel comfortable enough going, I'm six, seven. You don't feel like you're overly big.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Got you.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  I think if you go to six, eight, six, nine.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  So can we look up which celebrities are six, eight and above?

• 35:10Speaker 04

  Greg Davies.

• 35:10Speaker 02

  Greg Davies.

• 35:11Speaker 03

  There we go, Greg Davies.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Well, there's totally, I, I mean, you've contradicted your own point twice here in about four minutes of talking.

• 35:17Speaker 03

  No, I've always thought Greg Davies said he was six, seven.

• 35:19Speaker 02

  First of all, he said Peter Crouch is taller than you.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  He is definitely taller.

• 35:22Speaker 02

  Then he said, what have we all got in common? We all say we're six, seven. Greg Davis, six, eight.

• 35:26Speaker 03

  Can I say?

• 35:27Speaker 02

  So what the fuck is the point of any of this chat?

• 35:29Speaker 03

  I'll do a picture of Peter Crouch and, and I'm six, eight, he's taller than me.

• 35:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 35:33Speaker 03

  I think there's probably footage of me and Peter standing together.

• 35:35Speaker 02

  Greg Davies is six, eight?

• 35:37Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  Okay. That's number one. Let's keep going, please, if you don't mind.

• 35:41Speaker 03

  It's fucking embarrassing because I won't be here.

• 35:44Speaker 02

  Six, five.

• 35:45Speaker 04

  So this is just people who are over.

• 35:47Speaker 02

  Dwayne The Rock Johnson, six, five.

• 35:48Speaker 04

  People are very tall.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Bo Burnham is between six, six and six, seven.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  I also thought Bo Burnham was about five, nine.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  Five, 10.

• 35:56Speaker 02

  Surprising, isn't it?

• 35:57Speaker 03

  I never knew Bo Burnham was that tall. What?

• 36:01Speaker 02

  Hosea, six, six?

• 36:02Speaker 03

  Wow, I've ne, I mean, I've never even seen, seen him. Wow.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I knew Flava Flavas, five, seven. That's tattooed on me. Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, so a tall basketball player.

• 36:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's incredibly tall. And that's, this is the thing I'm getting to, by the way.

• 36:17Speaker 03

  That's my worries. My bones are starting to deteriorate.

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Is that what you're worried about?

• 36:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I'm, I'm.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you're doing weightlifting.

• 36:23Speaker 03

  I do weightlifting, I'm trying to, but I'm in a lot of pain quite a lot of the time with hips and stuff. And that comes to us taller people. Not on here.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  Well, this feels quite American centric, actually.

• 36:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, but number one was Greg Davies.

• 36:35Speaker 02

  I know, but Taskmaster and that.

• 36:37Speaker 03

  Shaquille O'Neal, Shaquille O'Neal, by the way, favourite ever.

• 36:40Speaker 02

  Favourite ever what?

• 36:41Speaker 03

  Basketball player.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 36:44Speaker 03

  You're such a snidey fuck.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  What do you mean, what?

• 36:46Speaker 03

  Why are you a favourite ever what?

• 36:48Speaker 02

  Oh, Young Gravy, six, eight. God, his videos with him and his girlfriend are fucking annoying, aren't they?

• 36:53Speaker 03

  I haven't seen them. He goes out with Kate Upton.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Who does?

• 36:56Speaker 03

  Him.

• 36:56Speaker 02

  No, he's going out with Ari, Ari Kit, I can't remember how to pronounce the surname.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  What sort of videos does he do?

• 37:03Speaker 02

  They're just constantly sort of being in love together in their videos.

• 37:05Speaker 03

  On like Nicole Scherzinger and Tom.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  Richard Osman, six, seven?

• 37:09Speaker 03

  Yeah. So I think he probably is.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  He's made it into this article.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  Yeah. Yeah. Well, he's a massive author now.

• 37:14Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 37:16Speaker 03

  Good guy, Richard Osman as well.

• 37:17Speaker 02

  Really good guy. Please don't talk about us on Messes Entertainment.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 37:23Speaker 03

  I mean, look, that's, that's a lot to be getting back from.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  It's a hell of an episode, by the way.

• 37:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, it went all over the place as well.

• 37:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:30Speaker 02

  Um, what do you want to do? Do you want to, do you want to have no constraints to your story this time?

• 37:34Speaker 03

  No, I quite like the constraints.

• 37:36Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 37:36Speaker 03

  I feel, I feel it's quite fun.

• 37:37Speaker 02

  Uh, let's do gravy.

• 37:40Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Uh, tall, great height.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  And cereal.

• 37:50Speaker 02

  Do you want some?

• 37:52Speaker 03

  I mean, two of the words are literally the same.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  Oh, sorry, let me do another one.

• 37:55Speaker 03

  No, no, no, they're good, they're good.

• 37:56Speaker 02

  No, do another one.

• 37:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  Uh, what else do we talk about?

• 37:58Speaker 03

  No, no, no.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  Orangutan.

• 38:00Speaker 03

  Orangutan? Okay. What, what am I taking out? Cereal?

• 38:04Speaker 02

  Cereal.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 38:10Speaker 03

  Hero worship. Seeing someone you think is incredible. Looking at them, wanting to emulate them, dreaming in some weird pathetic way that you could be like them. That's the trouble though. Sometimes the people that you think are bulletproof are actually flawed human beings, or not even flawed human beings. Say if you were a chimpanzee in the great wild, looking around thinking, God, that orangutan will things around here. He's got it all fucking sorted out. He's, he's the strongest of all the monkeys out there. But little do you know

• 38:50Speaker 03

  that the orangutan's butt's getting bitten by fleas. He's got his own vulnerabilities. Truth is, we don't really know what's going on with anyone. Even when you're staring at the bottom and if you're like an ant looking right at the top of the tree, a mighty eagle, and thinking, look at him all the way up there, flying up there, a great height, the top of a tall tree, just, just relaxing, just doing what he wants. Truth is, the perspective that we have of other people's lives can sometimes just be engineered and warped by the things that we make them. Sometimes we look at people and just think, well, they've got it sorted. Their

• 39:29Speaker 03

  life's all gravy. But the truth is, if we scrape it away just a little bit and actually look into it, the people we emulate or the people we want to be are just as flawed as we are. So yeah, there we go.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  Okay, thank you. That's quite a somber, somber note to finish the podcast on. Thanks for listening to and watching the Wolf and I podcast, [email protected]. We will see you for the email special. Peace out.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  Ta-rah, mate.

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