Session 97: Glen Powell Returns

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• 0:01Speaker 00

  Into the wild. The Cartier Panther encounters a shimmering crocodile, a lonely lovebird, a breathless zebra, and a restless tiger.

• 0:24Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapuss. Tonight, we have on my dear friend, movie star, greatest person of all time, Glenn Powell on. I'm so happy that he came back to promote his new show, Chad Powers, which drops on Hulu September 30th. I was lucky enough to see the show and it is amazing. It is like, it's hard for me to like laugh out loud at things sometimes, like at shows, and I really laughed out loud at this. It just feel good, it's funny, it's needed. But for this episode, Glenn invited me to his house in Austin so he could show me what a real Austin weekend looked like, including a UT game day.

• 1:07Speaker 01

  And all I have to say is, I think Glenn is the mayor of Austin, Texas. I've never seen anything like that in my entire life. I had the best time ever. On Friday night, we went to dinner, went to Benson Boone. Saturday was just, I felt like I was back in college. We woke up, game day. I drank, I must have drank for 24 hours straight. But it was literally the best time ever. And I think that's what makes this episode feel so special is because I have such incredible memories to go along with it. Kaia came with us, she was the most fun. Like, we had the most fun ever. Kaia and I and Glenn got to shoot off the cannon at the UT game,

• 1:52Speaker 01

  which is not a real cannon. I thought it was, it's not, but it was very loud nonetheless. I met their mascot, they won 55 to 0, which was amazing. It was such a fun time. Glenn, thank you for having me, thank you for coming back on. You can stream his new show, Chad Powers, out on Hulu September 30th. It is amazing. And yeah, to submit a Tell Me What's Wrong, go to passthatpuss.com, click Tell Me What's Wrong, leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy, and enjoy the episode. Love you pussies.

• 2:25Speaker 01

  Howdy pussies, welcome to Austin, Texas.

• 2:29Speaker 01

  We are here with my dear friend, movie star Glenn Powell.

• 2:34Speaker 02

  What's up, buddy?

• 2:36Speaker 01

  I am so excited to be here.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  I'm very excited you're here in Austin, Texas, dude. We've already, uh, we've already taken the place by storm.

• 2:44Speaker 01

  We really, we really have. We saw, well, we've had, we had a day yesterday.

• 2:48Speaker 02

  Yes, we did.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  We flew together.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  Brisket slept in my lap.

• 2:52Speaker 02

  The whole, the whole way.

• 2:53Speaker 01

  The entire plane ride.

• 2:54Speaker 02

  The most adorable thing I've ever seen.

• 2:55Speaker 01

  We both fell asleep.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  I try not to make a habit of taking pictures of people while they're asleep, but I really wanted to.

• 3:00Speaker 01

  I know. And then I woke up because my phone fell out of my hand. That's how I knew I was really asleep.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was aggressive.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was like a clunk. And I was like, oh, wow. I, I fell asleep. And I would just like to say, not to flex on myself, but I am your first guest here in this house.

• 3:14Speaker 02

  You, you were my first house guest. I'm, I'm like so honored. Like you, you've, you've tested out the bed. I saw you wake up in your jammies this morning. It's like coordinated pajamas. I know what, I know what Jake's morning voice sounds like.

• 3:26Speaker 01

  Can you do the morning voice? Hey.

• 3:31Speaker 01

  I woke up, everyone was up and I, they woke up and I said, hi. I was in my, I was in my.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  It's so delicate.

• 3:36Speaker 01

  I know.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  It's so delicate.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Before, before the beast awakens.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We, we, uh, we also, we had a night last night. We, we tore one off. So I'm like, I'm very impressed with how delicate your voice sounded. I, I'm.

• 3:49Speaker 01

  I was hungover.

• 3:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, me too.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Benson, I'm sorry for blacking out at your concert. I blacked out at Benson Boone.

• 3:55Speaker 02

  You earned it, buddy. We did it. We did it right.

• 3:57Speaker 01

  I've never experienced anything like that. We did have a drinking game.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  Yes, we did. Every time Benson did a backflip or any sort of athletic thing, we chugged for 10 seconds straight.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, 10. It was, and Glenn and Kai were like, because Kai is here too with us. And she, and they were like, maybe we do like five seconds. And I said, no.

• 4:13Speaker 02

  No, no, you were, you were, you were on a tear. You also said when we had our first drink early on, you were like, I'm gonna blackout tonight. And I was like, this guy's like, he's not saying it like, like question mark. It was like an exclamation point.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was statement. And I, and I did that.

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  And let me tell you something. I, and I didn't wake up too hungover. Maybe it's the alcohol in Texas, but it's not bad.

• 4:35Speaker 02

  We were going, we were, you did espresso martinis.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 4:39Speaker 02

  Which I was worried about.

• 4:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  You know, but like, I will say my favorite part about you taking the first sip, you were really kind of muted in the car. Kai and I were kind of worried about you. And then, and then all of a sudden a first sip of espresso martini and I was like. The Beast is coming out tonight.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Right, because I was so tired and I was so hungry. Glenn and I, we woke up at 3:00 in the morning.

• 4:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  For a 6:00 AM flight.

• 5:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:01Speaker 01

  And so like, and I was like, okay, like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna nap. And then I didn't end up nap and I like really tried, but I was watching Chad Powers.

• 5:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Which comes out.

• 5:09Speaker 02

  Comes out September 30th. So you know, it's a few days away.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  A few days away. It is so incredible.

• 5:16Speaker 02

  So yeah, so basically, yeah, it becomes, they're, they're holding this open tryouts for a quarterback at this, at this college that we made up in the show. All the colleges around us are real, but South Georgia, University of South Georgia, Catfish, are a team we made up, but they need, they need a quarterback. And so, yeah, Russ Holiday, who's canceled, the world hates him.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  Hates.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Puts on prosthetics and tries out and becomes like the starting quarterback for the University of South Georgia Catfish.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  And how long, and you said it took you how long every morning for these prosthetics?

• 5:46Speaker 02

  Just like an hour. These guys got it, I mean, it started off at like two hours and then these guys got it like, down to like an hour. They're, they're like such animals.

• 5:53Speaker 01

  And did you, were the prosthetics ever heavy? Like, was it ever hot out? Were you ever like, oh, I can't do this?

• 5:58Speaker 02

  There was like one day when I was doing tryouts in the show where, this is my buddy Josh.

• 6:04Speaker 01

  Hi Josh!

• 6:05Speaker 03

  What's up Josh?

• 6:06Speaker 01

  Hey!

• 6:07Speaker 03

  Welcome to the party.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  That's Josh.

• 6:09Speaker 01

  Hook 'em!

• 6:09Speaker 02

  We went to college together. Do you want to hear, you want to sit down for two seconds? You want to, you want to hear the, the way that Josh and I met?

• 6:16Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  So Josh and I met on a Southwest flight.

• 6:20Speaker 01

  Okay, so Southwest, that's the one where it's like the Hunger Games, right?

• 6:23Speaker 02

  Okay, come and sit down.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, come, Josh, come on. Come on Josh.

• 6:26Speaker 03

  Coming on in.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  So you met on a Southwest flight?

• 6:29Speaker 02

  So Josh and I were flying to, was it Texas OU? No, it wasn't Texas OU because we were flying to Austin, but what game? I don't remember what game it was. But we basically, uh, we ran into a bunch of my friends that we, we had mutual friends that all went to UT. And we got so buck wild on this flight that the, this flight attendants kept bringing us new little minis. Mini like.

• 6:54Speaker 03

  Had like 20 mini alcohols by the time we left stuffed in our boots.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  From the Southwest flight?

• 6:59Speaker 02

  Southwest, it was the rowdiest Southwest flight I've ever been on. And then we, we went out with the flight attendants on Sixth Street in Austin afterwards.

• 7:07Speaker 01

  What? How old were you guys?

• 7:11Speaker 02

  We were.

• 7:12Speaker 03

  We were.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  My god, probably 21, 22, yeah.

• 7:18Speaker 01

  So Southwest is the one where it's like first come, first serve?

• 7:21Speaker 03

  Yes. So I saw some mutual friends in the back of the plane.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 7:26Speaker 03

  And, and so I went to them and I had not met Glenn yet, but then, you know, rest is history.

• 7:32Speaker 02

  Like, yeah, fast friends after that.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  And you were there for a football weekend?

• 7:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, we were there for, what, I don't remember what game it was, but it was a tech, it was a game at the Texas Stadium, D K R.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  Mm hmm, D K R.

• 7:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, Darryl K Royal. That's like, when people say D K R, I'm gonna teach him, I gotta teach him the Texas Fight chant. We gotta teach him like the eyes of Texas.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  Am I going to the game?

• 7:51Speaker 03

  I see you got, you got it.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got a new hat today, like.

• 7:55Speaker 03

  Alan's boots?

• 7:57Speaker 01

  Who is Alan?

• 7:58Speaker 02

  No, no, it's not Alan. We went to Tacovus.

• 8:00Speaker 03

  Okay, got it, got it.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  So Tacovus.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Who's Alan?

• 8:02Speaker 02

  Alan, Alan's like an iconic like boot store that's like near Tacovus.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  Got it, got it.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  But Tacovus like tricked us out. So he's got him like a hat. He's got him with like the, the button down, the jeans, the whole thing.

• 8:11Speaker 03

  We'll, we'll get you every fight song by the time we're done.

• 8:14Speaker 01

  I'm gonna sing my heart out, okay?

• 8:16Speaker 02

  There you go. Wait, can you, there, nope, nope.

• 8:18Speaker 03

  No, no, no. Better.

• 8:20Speaker 02

  Better. Not that.

• 8:21Speaker 03

  Not that.

• 8:22Speaker 02

  There it is.

• 8:23Speaker 01

  Hook 'em.

• 8:24Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  So it's this?

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  So this is a horn?

• 8:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's a, that's a, that's a long.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  Who's your mascot?

• 8:30Speaker 02

  Bevo.

• 8:31Speaker 01

  Bevo?

• 8:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  And what is he?

• 8:33Speaker 02

  He's a longhorn. He's like a.

• 8:35Speaker 03

  A huge steer.

• 8:36Speaker 01

  Is that a deer?

• 8:37Speaker 03

  No, steer. Like a big bull.

• 8:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, like a, like a Texas cow.

• 8:42Speaker 03

  A longhorn.

• 8:44Speaker 01

  Is that like, you guys go bull riding here?

• 8:47Speaker 02

  I mean, we're more, we're more like mechanical bull people.

• 8:50Speaker 03

  More mechanical.

• 8:50Speaker 01

  I need to ride a mechanical bull later.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  I bet we could make that happen.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  We could make that happen.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  Can we, please?

• 8:56Speaker 02

  Our flight's at like five in the morning, so I was like.

• 8:58Speaker 03

  I'm with you now.

• 9:00Speaker 01

  Are we all fine together?

• 9:01Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  We just have to stay up?

• 9:02Speaker 02

  We're thinking about bringing Jake on Sixth Street tonight.

• 9:04Speaker 03

  I think we go Sixth Street. Maybe we go to a frat party. There'll be a mechanical bull there.

• 9:09Speaker 02

  I'm thinking about bringing him to like a frat party before.

• 9:12Speaker 01

  We wanna go to St. Ag.

• 9:14Speaker 03

  It's the place to be. Let's do it.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  What, how's where you in?

• 9:17Speaker 03

  I was in Sami. It was a Jewish fraternity.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  Oh, hi Jew. I'm Jewish too.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  We could go to Sammy. I think Sig App's gonna be kicking off, though.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  I want to go where it kicks off.

• 9:30Speaker 03

  Oh, they're like next door. We'll go hawk around.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  It's like Parents Weekend.

• 9:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, it is Parents Weekend.

• 9:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I think it'll be fun. We could go shotgun beers with moms and dads and then call it a day.

• 9:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, we'll get you take a hat. We'll do the whole thing.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  You guys are gonna get me drunk.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  Explain to me what a hat is.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  A hat?

• 9:46Speaker 03

  So there's certain organizations on campus that like you sort of need an initiation to get in. And so there's two in particular that they have a hat like that, but before it's formed and steamed, it's basically just a felt funnel. And so they pour drinks, whatever. It could be beer, it could be whiskey, it could be a mystery. And you basically have to just chug hats.

• 10:13Speaker 01

  I want to. I think I want to do that, yeah.

• 10:16Speaker 03

  Oh, we for sure can do it.

• 10:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, we'll go on the film. You'll take a basically shotgun of beer out of the hat.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  I have to do that.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  It's very felt-y.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  I have to do that.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  It's not like the best taste.

• 10:26Speaker 03

  No.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  I don't drink for the taste.

• 10:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's better than taking a boot.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  A boot?

• 10:31Speaker 02

  You could drink out of a boot.

• 10:32Speaker 01

  I think I want to do a boot.

• 10:34Speaker 02

  I mean, it's like.

• 10:36Speaker 03

  Start with a hat. We'll work your way up to a boot.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  You from the East Coast?

• 10:41Speaker 03

  No, I'm from, I'm actually from California. I'm from San Diego. Do I give you an East Coast vibe? I hear New York all the time.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  East Coast Jew.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Well, I think we're gonna have the best day ever.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, we're gonna, we're gonna kick off this thing in about two hours. I think everybody's getting over here. So make yourself at home. You're in the back. This is Kaya back here.

• 11:00Speaker 03

  Let me get back to it. Cut all that out.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Kaya is here this weekend as well.

• 11:06Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  She joined the party. Kai, are you having a good time? Yeah. So what were we talking about?

• 11:14Speaker 02

  We were talking about Chad Powers. You were talking about you pitched Chad Powers.

• 11:17Speaker 01

  I said it's like H2O, just add water, but for football.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I didn't know what I, I, I watched Aquamarine. I know Akamoreen.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  With JoJo?

• 11:26Speaker 02

  JoJo is in it. Sarah Paxton, who I had a huge crush on as a kid.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  You did?

• 11:31Speaker 02

  Right around my Spy Kids 3 era.

• 11:33Speaker 01

  You know what is so funny that we realized in the car yesterday is I look just like your castmate in Spy Kids.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  Honestly, Halloween's coming up.

• 11:42Speaker 01

  You want me to do it?

• 11:43Speaker 02

  If you wanted to go as Junie Cortez in Spy Kids, I think that's a strong move.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Should I do it?

• 11:47Speaker 02

  Maybe I can get you the original costume.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  Don't play with me. Wait, how old were you guys when you filmed this?

• 11:53Speaker 02

  I was probably 13.

• 11:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I don't even fit into clothes from when I was 19.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  I mean, this is like, we could probably get like a custom one made up.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  Okay, I have to be Junie Cortez.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  We shot it all here in Austin. You're in the right place.

• 12:05Speaker 01

  So that, how did you, Spy Kids was your first role?

• 12:07Speaker 02

  Spy Kids was my first like movie movie.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  And were they doing open casting in Austin?

• 12:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, so I just like auditioned for this thing. I actually auditioned for this guy, E-Dog and Logos, which I play, the description of the character was like he had a goatee. And you know, I had like a really high voice.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  You were a kid.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  I was like a kid. I was like, I sounded like Mickey Mouse and I had like, there was no facial hair in sight. And so I auditioned for this role. And it was me, it was three guys that were auditioning for two roles, or four guys that were auditioning for two roles. And I finally, I get down, we're meeting with like Robert Rodriguez. And I was like, what am I doing here? Like, there's like three guys with beards and there's me. And then I ended up auditioning and he ended up giving me a different role.

• 12:52Speaker 01

  Oh, what initial role were you auditioning for?

• 12:54Speaker 02

  It's called E-Dog and Logos. They're like these kind of bad guys.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  And I thought those were the casting directors.

• 13:00Speaker 02

  I wasn't auditioning for, sorry.

• 13:03Speaker 01

  I was like, wait, that's kind of cool.

• 13:07Speaker 02

  E-Dog and Logos would be badass casting director names. This was, this was the characters like in this like, you know, video game or whatever.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  Understood.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  And then I ended up playing like this like, you know, ruler of the arena of misfortune. Which is a badass title.

• 13:19Speaker 01

  Alright, okay, so you're not in Shark Boy and Lava Girl?

• 13:22Speaker 02

  No, no, no.

• 13:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  They made that afterwards and like, I have no.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Sorry, I get them all.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  Taylor Lautner is in that.

• 13:27Speaker 01

  Yes, but you know what you are in that I've never spoken to you about? Endurance.

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  Endurance Fiji.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  Survivor for Kids.

• 13:37Speaker 02

  My sister was in Endurance Fiji.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  My little sister, so I, I was in Endurance Mexico.

• 13:44Speaker 01

  Please, like, you don't understand how important that show was to me? What was it like?

• 13:48Speaker 02

  So, so for anybody that doesn't know, Endurance is like a kid's, like Survivor. It was like, you know, everybody competing to like.

• 13:56Speaker 01

  Undiscovery Kids.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like underage, it's like kids doing Survivor and they did the first season like California and like Catalina Islands.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  Yes, they did! Oh my god, sorry.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Second season was in Mexico and in like, uh, like, you know, the very tip of Mexico, kinda like Cia Cortez area. So I got on that season and I was super pumped, like I, I auditioned for, I've auditioned twice, I auditioned for Moolah Beach, which was the original, kind of like, test.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 14:25Speaker 02

  Endurance, then Endurance One, I auditioned for that too, didn't get either. And then they said, hey, we really want you for Endurance Two. And I finally got on the show and I'm like, super excited, like, you know, like you, you go out there, they do the whole drum roll to it, you meet all the kids, you're like, you show up on donkeys, like, you meet this guy.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  Did show up on donkeys!

• 14:46Speaker 02

  You show up on donkeys to the desert, I'm like stoked, I'm like ready, I was like training for it.

• 14:49Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  And then the first challenge, I, I drop off this bar and I get kicked off the show.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  What was the challenge?

• 14:56Speaker 02

  Day one.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  What was the challenge?

• 14:58Speaker 02

  The challenge was, uh, basically you hold a bar over your head. So it's like you hold this bar over your head and if you dip the bar too much, the platform below you drops. So all of a sudden, when I was like kinda testing out the thing, I like kinda stood on my tippy toes, thought, think it was gonna help me.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 15:15Speaker 02

  And so I basically didn't have very much room to give, so I dipped it a little bit and the platform dropped and I was in the water before I knew it and I was like. I'm gonna get made fun of for like the next like 10 years of my life for this shit. And um, it was tough. Like it was like to also like be playing football in high school and like, you just kinda got to high school.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  How old were you?

• 15:36Speaker 02

  I was like 14. And you get kicked off this like show that kinda like everybody was watching on Saturday morning. I was like, this sucks. And when I was, when I got kicked off, I was so upset with myself that I walked and I hit my head on a camera boom. I still have a scar on my forehead from hitting like a giant camera crane.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  From endurance?

• 15:54Speaker 02

  I had to get stitches, yeah.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  So endurance left scars?

• 15:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, like emotional and physical scars.

• 15:58Speaker 01

  Yes. Wow, that was my favorite show as a kid. So do you, and your, which sister was on it?

• 16:04Speaker 02

  Leslie. So my little sister Leslie.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  Was on Fiji?

• 16:06Speaker 02

  Was on Fiji. So she, like a couple of years later, maybe the next year.

• 16:09Speaker 01

  It was the next year?

• 16:10Speaker 02

  Was it the next year?

• 16:11Speaker 01

  It was my favorite show.

• 16:12Speaker 02

  So she was like, I was like, hey, we need to redeem the family name.

• 16:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:16Speaker 02

  I can't leave it like this. So we got my little sister. I helped her with the audition video. And she got on the next show and she nearly won it. She was like, she got second place. She should have gotten first place. It was like a.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  So, okay, so like was all the drama behind the scenes real?

• 16:29Speaker 02

  I mean, I wasn't on the show, man. I got kicked off right.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  I know, but I'm just saying like, oh, it's, do you watch Survivor now or no?

• 16:35Speaker 02

  Not really anymore, no.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  I've never seen it.

• 16:37Speaker 02

  I watched it, I watched it early on. I watched it early on was like first couple of seasons.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  Okay, I've never seen Survivor.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  It's great.

• 16:43Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:43Speaker 02

  It's great. I can't believe it's still going, but it's, it's, the kid Survivor thing was like way more dramatic because it was like, you know, like when you're like 16, 17 years old, like 15, like, girl, like, girls, like everybody, like the, the emotional and kinda like romantic dynamics are kinda so heightened off of so little. And I had like a crush on this girl, Keaton, who was on the show. And I was really bummed because I, I like fell for her on the first day and then I got kicked off.

• 17:10Speaker 01

  That would have been such a good storyline.

• 17:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. She was my first kiss though.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  What, when?

• 17:14Speaker 02

  Like a year later.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  How did you keep in touch with Keaton?

• 17:17Speaker 02

  Um, I, I, the, the whole like endurance crew like kept in touch.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  How did you keep in touch without group chats?

• 17:27Speaker 02

  That's a great question. Was it AIM? Yes, it was. I think it was like AIM? Yes, it was. We were always like, kinda like, yeah. It was kinda the same thing. You just had to like, log on. And then you all hung out? We all hung out. I went to her place. My first kiss was at her place in North Carolina. And I was super excited because I was like, I knew she liked me and like, we were about to watch The Ring. Remember that movie, The Ring? I- Where the girl comes out of the TV? Yes. Did you watch the OG or the American one? OG. Oh, that one's scary. And so it was like that vibe where she's like, okay, like, she's starting to get closer, cuddle. I'm like, oh, it's on. And so I get, I get my first kiss that night. All the guys were kinda helping me like, get alone and like, make it happen.

• 18:10Speaker 02

  So I nailed it right off the bat. I was like, super happy. I was like, man, you know how to make out. You are born for this thing, man. And then, and then, and then, like, a few weeks later, we go to Connecticut, our buddy Mike's house. How old were you? You were just hopping from state to state to state? I was always moving around. But this crew, like, we like, really liked each other, the whole crew, like- From endurance? Yes, stuck together. And so we went to Mike's house and we went to go see The Haunted Mansion, the Haunted Mansion movie. The Disney movie? Eddie Murphy. Amazing. Haunted Mansion. So we saw that and I'm like, I'm about to get my second kiss. Like, this is about to go down. So I'm like, leaving the theater and I would do this thing as a kid, like, where I do like skateboard moves. You know, like, where you jump off of something and kinda like, like, spin? You know, like, alright, I was not as cool. Like, parkour?

• 18:54Speaker 02

  It's like parkour. It was like, early parkour, where you do like skateboard moves without a skateboard. You like, jump up on like, like, rails and like, jump off of things. You just unlocked a memory from when I had guy friends in 5th grade. Oh my god. Yes, I know exactly what you were talking about. Yeah, you kinda do like, it's like, it's like skateboard parkour. Yes. So I did, was doing skateboard parkour, didn't realize Keaton had fallen behind me and I spun. Oh. And I knocked her into the, I elbowed her in the face and I broke her nose. So she's like bleeding out, like fully like, like fully puffy, like it's like, it's like gruesome. And I was like, I was like, it just sort of like really summed up my love life for the next like while.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Were you like, I'm so sorry, Kean, like?

• 19:39Speaker 02

  No, no, no. I mean, there's nothing to do. You just like, you ruined it in so many ways. She's all, she feels weird because like.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  She like, oh, it's fine.

• 19:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, like she was like trying to play it off and it was like really not good.

• 19:49Speaker 01

  Do you know where she is now?

• 19:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, Keaton, Keaton lives in LA. She's, um, I think she works for the Jennifer Hudson Show now.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  Do you believe in fate?

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Yes, I do.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  I was just recently on the Jennifer Hudson Show.

• 20:09Speaker 02

  Do you know Keaton?

• 20:10Speaker 01

  No, but I'll tell you about my experience on the Jennifer Hudson Show. They sang me a song down the spirit. Are you gonna go on the Jennifer Hudson Show?

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't have plans to, but I've been on there before.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  You must.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  You know what's, can I tell you about the Jennifer Hudson Show? It's a really fun show. I've been on, I've been, I really like her. I find the, the dance line to be very intimidating.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  It was, that's all I, that was my dream. Like, once I did the dance line, I said, okay, I can be done now. I, spirit tunnel.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  I like a dance move like, like even Josh, I was at Josh's wedding. I would consider myself like a, a dance party starter.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  Oh, you are?

• 20:45Speaker 02

  Like, I, I feel like you get a couple of drinks in me and you put me on a dance floor at a wedding. I, I like really kick things off. I find the social, like going, doing a dance line, sort of like a TikTok dance line is just a little more pressure.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? That's like, maybe I'd, maybe I'd meet the occasion, but I'm not sure.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  When I tell you you would meet the occasion, like I can't describe the energy in that spirit tunnel. They go one, two, three. And you go around the corner and everyone starts clapping and cheering.

• 21:18Speaker 02

  I will say, meeting the occasion that la- last night, you, I was, we, we, we went onstage at Benson Boone. And when they asked me in front of kind of Benson, "Hey, would you want to do this thing?" And I was like, "Oh, like, you know, maybe." And, and, and like, we, I kind of felt like awkward, so I was like, "I, I, I don't know if I, I don't know if I'm, I'm, I'm up for this." And so, it was really helpful. Your drinking game was extremely helpful to me getting on, uh, Benson Boone.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  And can we talk about the merch?

• 21:46Speaker 02

  The merch is great. Red, white, and Boone. Only Austin, Texas served it up. It's not even their own merch.

• 21:51Speaker 01

  You can't get that shit anywhere.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  We have like six of them here.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  We do have six of them. Um, if you get lucky, you can get one later.

• 22:01Speaker 01

  A red, white, and Boone hat?

• 22:02Speaker 02

  We went to, we, we went to Benson Boone last night.

• 22:06Speaker 02

  No, but we took a shot. We like drank every time he did a backflip.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Well, then, then they were like, "Okay, so, you're gonna come onstage, you're gonna shoot out this t-shirt." Glenn was like, "Okay, great." And then they're like, "Would you wear this jumpsuit?" And I said, "You know what? Like, Glenn, I like what you're wearing right now." And Kaia heard, like, "Do, would you shoot out the t-shirt?" Kaia's like, "Obviously do it, it's gonna be so fun." And I can't have an original thought or my own opinion to save my life. So I'm like, "Yeah, 100%." Like, "You should wear the jumpsuit, like, do whatever you need to do, like, wear..." I obviously switched up on the moment. And then Glenn came back and was like, "Are you guys sure about the jumpsuit?" And I'm like, "100%."

• 22:44Speaker 02

  I was gonna wear like a Benson Boone jumpsuit out there. I was like, I was like, "I don't know if this feels like me, man." I'm like...

• 22:50Speaker 01

  And Kaia was like, "Jumpsuit?" And I go, "What? What are you, what?" And she goes, "Jumpsuit?" And I'm like, "Well, he, we both just agreed that he should wear the jumpsuit." And she was like, "No, we didn't. I said he should do the t-shirt." And I'm like, "Oh, yeah, you shouldn't wear the jumpsuit."

• 23:03Speaker 02

  That was so funny. I was like, "Well..." I mean, you really did pitch me on that.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, Kaia was like, "It's gonna be so fun and silly," and I'm like, "110%."

• 23:14Speaker 02

  I'm so glad I didn't wear the jumpsuit.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  How long have we been talking about this weekend for?

• 23:20Speaker 02

  A while. I mean, like, I've, I've been pitching you on Austin for a while. And, and I've, I've been telling you, you need to come to a Texas game in Austin for a really long time. I, I knew you were gonna look probably pretty good in a cowboy hat, but I didn't expect this.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  I mean, I have chills.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  When, when, when, when you put that hat on earlier today.

• 23:40Speaker 01

  Time stopped.

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Time stopped. I was like, I was like, this man has been put into Austin for a reason.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  Can I tell you, I've never put on jeans that fit right away. I put them on, I said, huh. And then I said, okay, okay, like, let's not get too ahead of ourselves. Let me try on the shoes. Huh. Everything fit like a glove. I'm meant to be here.

• 23:58Speaker 02

  It's a solid vibe. I, I, this, this cowboy era of yours, you're like, I don't know what the cowboy, it's like, Cowboy Shane, what's the, what's the, it's not Cowboy Carter. We got, we gotta figure out like a, a nickname for you.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  My cowboy name?

• 24:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:10Speaker 01

  You think there's like a cowboy name generator?

• 24:11Speaker 02

  Shane's a good cowboy name.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Shane is a good cowboy name. Shane, if there's a cowboy name generator, I'll do that today.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  All right. This will be your alter ego. This is, this is how I like it.

• 24:20Speaker 01

  Like, you know how you can do like your porn star name?

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  What's yours? Like, it's what, your first street and your first dog?

• 24:27Speaker 02

  Max Pickfair.

• 24:28Speaker 01

  Max Pickfair? That's a good porn star name. Mine is, um,

• 24:33Speaker 01

  Rupert Fraser.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Rupert Fraser? You dirty dog.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Rupert Fraser, yeah.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, Rupert, Rupert's a...

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, we woke up one day Rupert was dead.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  Oh, why?

• 24:44Speaker 01

  We don't know still.

• 24:46Speaker 02

  Wait, still?

• 24:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:47Speaker 02

  It's a cold case of your dog?

• 24:49Speaker 01

  I know, wait.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  Oh, he was old.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  You went to UT.

• 24:53Speaker 02

  Let's get away from your, uh,

• 24:54Speaker 01

  My dead dog Rupert, that I actually didn't know, but my parents talk about all the time. It's weird. You went to UT.

• 24:58Speaker 02

  I did.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Did you enjoy college?

• 25:00Speaker 02

  I loved college.

• 25:01Speaker 01

  What was it like for you? Do you have any crazy stories? Like, what is your favorite story that you can share on air?

• 25:07Speaker 02

  You know a story I've never told anyone that I think about every time I go, uh, to the, to the Texas stadium at, uh, DRLK Royal Stadium, which is like,

• 25:16Speaker 01

  DCR?

• 25:16Speaker 02

  DCR, baby. Um, one of my favorite dates in college is, uh, DCR was going through some construction at the time when I was, I was a freshman. And so there was like, the gates were a little lower and like, it wasn't as fortified as it normally is. So I took a girl into the stadium, uh, late at night. And I brought, I brought a, a vodka, some orange juice. And we basically had a picnic in the middle on the 50 yard line of the stadium and watched the sunrise drinking screwdrivers.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 25:49Speaker 02

  Yes, like, it's like, it's like a great little like romantic Austin memory I have where I'm like, yeah, that's like, that's like, uh.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Fuck.

• 25:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  That is really romantic.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:58Speaker 01

  Did you go on a second date?

• 25:59Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, no, we were friends throughout like all of college, but it wasn't like, it wasn't like one of those where you're like, okay, this is probably gonna go anywhere, but we're still friends.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  And is she like, that was the best day of my life?

• 26:09Speaker 02

  I don't know if she still talks about it, I guess I do.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  That is really, really, that's like out of a rom-com.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was like, it was like a good, it was like a good, especially for like, I grew up in Austin and like, I've been a Longhorn fan my whole life, obviously like my couches are burnt orange. It's like, you know, there's nothing more romantic to me than college football.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  Really?

• 26:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I, I like, if, if a girl wears burnt orange.

• 26:32Speaker 01

  That, that's it?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  It's by far the sexiest color for me.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  That's it, she has your heart?

• 26:35Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  Wow, okay, and so, okay, and like when you have kids, are you gonna like, be like, you have to, like, I want you guys to go to UT, are you gonna like dress them in burnt orange?

• 26:44Speaker 02

  I think it would just like, when I, when I start to think about like, other college existence, like, there's, there's no better place to go than the University of Texas. It is like, you're in Austin, Texas. You've experienced a little bit of Austin so far. I, I wanna get you guys here for a little longer next time, but like, to be in Austin, which is the greatest city in the world, to be like, there's no better culture than UT. It's actually a great school, it's not like a party school, I mean, there's parties, but it's like work hard, play hard.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  Right.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  It's one of the best schools in the country, it's like phasing out Ivies now.

• 27:13Speaker 01

  Is it really?

• 27:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, it's like, it's like, it's like kicking Ivies off the list of like prestigious colleges and a lot of the top professors in the country are coming here. So it's just like one of those things, like, you have everything here.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Would you ever be on the board if they asked you?

• 27:25Speaker 02

  The board of UT?

• 27:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'd, I'd probably do that, cuz I, I'm, I'm helping them try to build out the film program.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  Wow!

• 27:33Speaker 02

  I mean, cuz it's already, it's already a great film program, but I'm, I'm trying to make sure like we bring, you know, cool people to Texas.

• 27:40Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  And you can help me with that, you know what I mean? Like, you're, you're bringing all the cool kids here.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  I will, I will help you with that. Wait, so, how, can you talk about the bats?

• 27:51Speaker 02

  Yes. We didn't get to see the bats last night.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  We didn't get to see the bats, I'm still, can I just tell you what I'm a little confused by? What I remember is that you, Austin, has a mosquito problem.

• 28:00Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:01Speaker 01

  And so, back in the day, they, I, actually, you know what, I'm not understanding this story.

• 28:06Speaker 02

  You know what's gonna be, is this gonna be sort of like the urban legend I told last time on your podcast?

• 28:10Speaker 01

  Oh, about the girl?

• 28:11Speaker 02

  I don't know if it's totally true, but here we gotta go again, let's saddle up, I'm not sure.

• 28:17Speaker 02

  I was like, I was like, no, this is a true story.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  I was like, what?

• 28:21Speaker 02

  You're like, hey, you just want to fact check, is that true? And I'm like, totally true.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  I knew that everyone was seeing that when my straight male friends called me. And they were like, you were on my Twitter today. And I said, really?

• 28:30Speaker 02

  It's me like totally buying into a story that I had. It's so funny.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  Wait, by the way, I saw your sister at my show and she was like, no, that's true. That is true. I was told that.

• 28:40Speaker 02

  The whole family, that's the funniest part is we've been telling that story for literally years as it's fact. And we could like, my little sister, like when I, when you asked me, you're like, hey, is that, is that a true story? And I was like, let me just ask my little sister, double check. But I'm like, I'm almost positive. And she's like, no, no, that's a true story. It happened to my like pledge sister. I was like, hey, great. And then all of a sudden, just everybody checks you on it. And they're like, that is not true. And I was like, so this mosquito story may or may not be true. But this is what I believe happened.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  So there's, there's mosquitoes in, in Texas. And they wanted to help with the mosquito problem. So they brought in a lot of bats to like, help take down this mosquito problem. And so now we have a ton of bats, which is not a bad thing. That means you have a fewer bugs, but now there's 2 million bats under the Congress Bridge. And so like every night around 7:30 in the fall, the bats come out. So the sky kind of goes black and it's just like, people gather on the bridge, grab drinks there on the bridge and just like, watch the bats fly out.

• 29:39Speaker 01

  You know what? As we're, as I'm hearing this story, I am confused on how they would transport 2 million bats to get rid of the mosquitoes.

• 29:49Speaker 02

  It's happening again.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  You know what I mean?

• 29:51Speaker 02

  It's happening again.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  Because yesterday I was told that, I was like, oh, period. Like, good for Austin. Like, they really figured that out. But now I'm like, how did they transport that many bats?

• 29:59Speaker 02

  Look, I am, I'm not into bat transport logistics.

• 30:04Speaker 01

  Right, okay.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  There's gotta be a bat guy. I mean, think about like, if you transport anything, have you ever been like on the side of the road and you see like those like reptile farms?

• 30:12Speaker 01

  You know what? No.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  No, they don't have that?

• 30:14Speaker 01

  What? What?

• 30:15Speaker 02

  You ever seen those? Yeah, you're like going on the side of the road, it's like reptiles, you can go and see like alligators and snakes and stuff. You've never seen this?

• 30:22Speaker 01

  Have this in Los Angeles? Maybe not LA.

• 30:25Speaker 02

  It's probably like more of a Texas Louisiana thing. If you and I take a road trip.

• 30:29Speaker 01

  Don't play with me.

• 30:30Speaker 02

  We, we'll go, we'll go to one of these reptile farms on the side of the road. It's like you can literally see just like, just like rednecks that just have like reptiles hanging out in their house. It's like the weirdest thing.

• 30:40Speaker 01

  You actually want to go on a road trip?

• 30:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, we should go on a road trip.

• 30:43Speaker 01

  I would love that.

• 30:44Speaker 02

  You gotta wear the hat.

• 30:45Speaker 01

  I would literally dress up in whatever. That sounded way worse when it came out of my mouth.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  But, um, yeah, the, I, I'm not really sure about bat logistics. I mean, I'm not sure how you would transport bats, but I just gotta be a guy.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 31:01Speaker 02

  There's a guy for everything.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  There must be. And where'd your siblings go? Did they all go to UT as well?

• 31:05Speaker 02

  My, my older sister Lauren went to A and M, which is Texas A and M. So that's like college station. That's a fun school. And then my little sister Leslie went to UT. All my cousins went to UT. My, my grandparents met at UT.

• 31:18Speaker 01

  Oh, so you're like from a UT love story?

• 31:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, everybody like game days have always just been the, the thing that brings my family together. No one misses it every Saturday.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  So what am I about to experience at this game day?

• 31:31Speaker 02

  Well, in, in about an hour, all my, like a bunch of my friends are going to come over. We're gonna, we're gonna pregame here. The college pregame's good, so I'm gonna teach you the Texas fight song.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  What's one of them?

• 31:46Speaker 02

  So this is when we score.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  Texas fight, Texas fight. Let's go over one more win. Texas fight, Texas fight. Force Texas that we love best. Give them hell, give them hell, make them eat shit.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  So I'm gonna be honest, that's like a whole verse.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  No, no, no. You're gonna be fine. We'll, we'll get there, but that is.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  Give them hell, give them hell.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  You could say, I think, what, what's the, what's the original lyric? Go Horns Go.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  Go Horns Go.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  But when you're in, like, if you're, if you're a few drinks in, you say make them eat shit.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  Okay. So how much of Chad Powers was based off of your college experience?

• 32:29Speaker 02

  Uh, well, I mean, a lot of it came from my love of college football, right? Like, I always like felt like when you go to like a football game in the South, like people, like you're gonna experience, it's like way more fun than an NFL game, cuz like people are just going buck wild, and you're gonna be, it's a night game, so people are like, they tailgate all day, and they're just like really passionate, it's like the best. So like, when I was a kid, Texas won the national championship, when I was a sophomore in high school, and, and I like went down on the UT campus, and we like danced on top of cars, they lit the tower up like orange, it was just like, it was just like one of those that you're like, this is the, it's the, it's the most fun, so I was trying to go, how can I take all that fun of college football and put it in a show?

• 33:12Speaker 02

  And so when Eli and Peyton were like, hey, what would you do with this? I, you know, my buddy Michael Waldron and I just like came up with this idea that was kinda like Mrs. Doubtfire in the world of college football.

• 33:21Speaker 01

  How could I forget the best part of the pitch? When you are, when you see, or Russ Holiday in the show sees the open tryouts for the Georgia team, he looks up, cuz he's transporting the prosthetics for his dad, looks up and sees a Mrs. Doubtfire poster.

• 33:37Speaker 02

  We just had to hang a lantern on exactly what we were doing, that was like the whole thing, it's like you just had, okay, let's just call it out, we're doing Mrs. Doubtfire in college football.

• 33:43Speaker 01

  Was it like, was it one of your most fulfilling and fun projects to ever film?

• 33:48Speaker 02

  It's just like, you know, look, my job is just to entertain people, like, I think a lot of people get like in their head about like it being, trying to be cool, or whatever it is, like awardsy, like for me, like, I try to make what I would watch, and this is a show that I would totally watch, it's like, it's like, it's fun, it's heartfelt, it's cinematic, it's got like, you know, we, we spent a lot of time making sure the football was real, that the comedy was actually funny, like, nobody on the show was like phoning it in, and it was really fun because we all had a blast, but I find myself, I find that I'm happiest on a set when I'm surrounded by smart people who are just like, don't take themselves too seriously.

• 34:28Speaker 01

  Right, and it was just a fun time.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  The best, like the greatest, greatest cast, great writers' room, just...

• 34:33Speaker 01

  Were you in the writers' room?

• 34:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  What's a writers' room like?

• 34:36Speaker 02

  A writers' room is basically a group of people, so Michael Waldron and I came up with the show, uh, and we took Eli's concept and we like, we were like, okay, here's what we think we would do, we sort of outlined generally where we want the show to go, like where it stops, where it ends, and... The you kind of you kind of just outline like what you because you write all these characters and the writers room kind of gets together and says, okay, like, what is the most exciting version of all this? And so it's basically just a lot of smart people, funny people. I'm in I'm in the writers room right now. And it's like, it's just the fun if best group of people that everybody's there to like put their heads together. It's like a fun team sport. Like, that's what I love about this business at its best. It's like,

• 35:17Speaker 02

  you have fun people who are talented and they get in a room and you try to just make the best thing you possibly can. But like, our writers room was like like top of the top. We had like, everybody wanted to be a part of the show. It's cool.

• 35:30Speaker 01

  Wow. Wait, so we were talking last night, though, weren't we talking about this last night in the car? Like, when we were like, when when we see a show or a movie, it's like, what's the why?

• 35:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  What do you think Chad Powers's why is?

• 35:42Speaker 02

  I think the why, I mean, one of the things that I I'm not going to say who it was, but there was I was at a party. And I I, you know, showed up to the party and there was somebody that had basically been on the ropes in terms of sort of getting canceled. Right? And there's like, you know, it's kind of a big public. It was one of those Hollywood parties where it's like there are cameras and press and all that stuff. And this person had made a lot of some of my favorite movies. And I was like, oh, like, this is this is great. Like, and he came up and he said, nice to meet you. Such I was, oh, dude, a big fan. And then a photographer said, like, hey, can we take a picture of the two of you guys? And this person was recently canceled and was like, it was it was like,

• 36:19Speaker 01

  As of late?

• 36:20Speaker 02

  Not good. I was a fan of their work, but not a fan of their their choices.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  Uh, so I was just kind of being nice. But then when you you're there want to take a picture with you, I realized very quickly how like, I was like, oh, I don't know if this is a good idea. He clearly clocked that I was like, this is probably not a good idea. And I realized I was like, this guy, his face is toxic. You know, like, going out into the world, like, people are having a visceral reaction to this person in terms of the the bad choices they've made.

• 36:49Speaker 01

  Right.

• 36:49Speaker 02

  And, um, you know, the the character that I play in Chad, it's like Russ Holiday is a guy that just made a mistake, right? He's not a bad guy. Some of these other people that get canceled, they should they should lie where they're they're they're shot. But but where where?

• 37:08Speaker 02

  But, but like, with Russ, he made a mistake. He acted, you know, poorly about it. And, and, and the world kind of didn't forgive him. And he couldn't forgive himself. And what I found to be really interesting is that in today's day and age, like, there's a lot of like, the, the, the cancel culture is just sort of a, a thing. And like, how, how the world doesn't really let you forget your mistakes. You know, we talked about with phones, you know, with TikTok and Instagram. It's like, so many people make mistakes and the internet doesn't let you forget.

• 37:39Speaker 01

  Right.

• 37:40Speaker 02

  And I found it to be interesting how people react to those moments. You know, what they double down on. Do they take accountability in those moments? Do they, they, you know, believe in conspiracy theories? Do they blame other people? Do they do all this other stuff? And I found that like, just having a character that's like, learning to say, I'm sorry. Learning to say like, I wish I would have done it differently. All those things is like a really, um, beautiful thing. Cause especially when you do go through those moments, like, I think we've probably all gone through life where we just want to have a different face. Like, we don't like ourselves. We don't like, want to do that. And I feel like the fresh start, it's sort of like, creates an underdog story, which is just a blank slate of somebody who goes, hey, I made a bunch of mistakes and I just want to do it better this time.

• 38:25Speaker 02

  And this guy Chad Powers kind of offers him a, a second chance to do the thing he loves, you know?

• 38:29Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it's also really, really funny.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's great.

• 38:33Speaker 01

  Was there ever a scene that you like, couldn't get through without laughing?

• 38:36Speaker 02

  There's a scene, there's a scene, that shower scene that you, you, uh, you were talking about where I basically am talking, Russ Holliday says like, he, he, he, he pretends like he's really good at improv. He's like, I don't need to like, worry about backstory of like, creating this character Chad Powers. Cause like, I got it. And so he, the coach asked him why he's not showering with his teammates. And Chad is basically makes up, he's, he's like, you know, um, you know, my, my, my, you know, my pee hole, it's, it's big. It's just far too big. And if water gets up there, you know, I could fall ill. It's just like, so it's like, it just like, makes up this like pee hole lie, uh, off the check, off the bat and like,

• 39:18Speaker 02

  It was the funniest scene because like, I don't think I was like, Steve Zahn is like, who plays the coach.

• 39:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:23Speaker 02

  You know, Coach Hudson, who's like brilliant, is one of my, is one of the funniest people on the planet. His reactions were like, killing me. And also, I don't think I was expecting to see, in his coverage, like, behind him, there's like a bunch of naked guys that are actually in the shower.

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:38Speaker 02

  So I was like, talking about pee holes. And there's like a bunch of naked guys, and Steve Zahn. It was just like a lot, it was, it was too much.

• 39:44Speaker 01

  Right.

• 39:44Speaker 02

  It was too much at the same time. But the show is like, I'm really proud of the show. I think it's like, I've showed it to a variety of different people. I like, when I'm making something, I like to show people, all, all across the board, to just get a sense of like, how it's being received and who it's being received by. And it's basically like, 100%, everybody loves it.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  And congratulations.

• 40:03Speaker 02

  Thank you, thank you.

• 40:05Speaker 01

  Can we talk about Running Man?

• 40:06Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 40:07Speaker 01

  I visited you on the set of Running Man in London, and you taught me how to do stunts.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Yes. The, the one thing that, uh, so, so Jake came to, visit me on Running Man. Um, and I, I was in the middle of learning some stunt choreography, where I get basically hit by these like goons. And I was very impressed by your ability.

• 40:28Speaker 01

  Were you really?

• 40:28Speaker 02

  I really was. I was like, dude, you, what, what, we do it for three minutes?

• 40:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, something like that.

• 40:33Speaker 02

  Three minutes, and you picked up the whole, like, the whole choreography?

• 40:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. It was amazing. And, I've never, there's like a scene on a plane, and like, there, they literally built, an entire plane, to shoot the whole thing on.

• 40:47Speaker 02

  On like a gimbal, so they could like, make it drop and spin and all that stuff, so.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  That was scary, when you would sit, the like, video village, or what, who, not video village, but like, the people, like, hair and makeup and whatever, would sit towards the back of the plane to like, run in after the shot. And like, the whole thing would shake and drop. I felt like I was on a roller coaster.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  People were like, puking. It was like, it was like, it's like, in theory, it was great.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 41:07Speaker 02

  The thing is, once it goes up on the gimbal, you're sort of removed, so people can't like, get on and off the plane.

• 41:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, I couldn't get off.

• 41:14Speaker 02

  So everybody's like, stuck on the plane while it's doing all these things. So I'm doing a fight scene, in like, a, a moving airplane that's dropping out of the sky and rolling and all this stuff. And so, yeah, everybody was getting sick that. It was not, it was like, I was in there for three weeks in this fight scene.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  You weren't, no you weren't. The plane took three weeks?

• 41:29Speaker 02

  Three weeks.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  That was a lot.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:32Speaker 01

  Are you excited for people to see Running Man?

• 41:33Speaker 02

  It's so good. It's really good. Yeah, so I mean, we're locking that in the next couple of days. But we've been, you know, there's to do this thing called testing, where they like, put it up in front of like, random audiences in like, New Jersey or Vegas, whatever. And just like, across the board, people are loving it.

• 41:48Speaker 01

  That's amazing.

• 41:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  I feel like you didn't have a single break in the past year. Did you have any moments to like, chill?

• 41:54Speaker 02

  I think that's been like, the weird part about this latest thing is like, I'm having a great time. Like, I'm like, I'm getting to make great stuff with great people and the cast are like, been awesome. Um, it is like, a wild pace.

• 42:08Speaker 01

  Right.

• 42:09Speaker 02

  Like, it's a... I don't think, I mean, you know how it is. It's like, whenever like, there's like, kind of momentum and stuff, stuff.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  You're like, I want to keep it going.

• 42:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, you work your ass off, like, your whole life, you know, like, I've been doing this since I was 10 years old. You know, Spy Kids was like, like, you know, I did Music Man. I showed, we drove by where I did my first play when I was like, 10 years old. I did Music Man there and like, I wanted to act like, every day since then. And so, it's really hard to get people to put you in stuff, you know, it's really hard to like, get that, uh, to be able to stand on your two feet or feel like you're actually gonna be able to make this your living. So like, all of a sudden, you get there and like, when things start working and all of a sudden, you're able to do this. It's really hard to kind of like, you know, find, find the happy medium. I'm doing it now where I can like, find the personal life, like, work-life balance. But it's like, to be like, I, I think I didn't really expect it.

• 43:02Speaker 02

  It's like, to be the lead of a movie is an everyday thing, because you're working on a script, you're, you're, you're like, like, Running Man, like.

• 43:08Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:09Speaker 02

  You're, you're doing, you're in the script with the director, like, you're boarding things, you're working with the stunt people, you're, you're, you're, you're, you're sort of like, ensuring the movie along with everybody else. So it doesn't really allow a lot of time for like, your own, your own stuff. So your life does, that's why I bring like, my family and friends on set.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  I feel like the past year has been like, crazy for you, even since we last spoke on this show. Like, everything took off that summer in like, ways that it hadn't before. And you became so much more visual as well to like, the rest, like, and not, visible, sorry, visible to the rest of the world. Like, what, were you expecting that, or?

• 43:47Speaker 02

  You know what's really weird is it kind of is I after that summer, right? So like it was like the summer of like, you know, Hitman and Twisters and You and all that stuff and I I did that press tour and then I went back to work, right? So I went and shot Chad Powers and then I went, actually I did an 824 movie Chad Powers, Running Man, and then this J.J. Abrams movie, all back to back. So I really haven't been out in the real world in a weird way. Like, I know that sounds crazy, but like, like even just like us walking around Austin, some of this still throws me a bit because it really hasn't changed my life because I'm on set, like you're you're around, it's like a very, sets a very normalizing place.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  Got it. And you were also in London for so long.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:37Speaker 01

  You shot in London, which is a different culture than America.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  I mean, obviously, but like, you know, like, I think like the fandom culture is like way more prevalent here.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  And so like, walking out, and so is this like really your first kind of time experiencing? Like, what, how everything has changed has actually affected your day to day?

• 44:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think I think this is like the first time where I'm kind of like, these last few weeks have actually been really interesting because I haven't, I haven't been out in front of it. Even like us get dinner all together last night.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 45:08Speaker 02

  I'm still trying to figure out the rules of like how to like protect the people at your table, like your friendships, like your fan, like your family, you're like, how do you, how do you, how do you be a human where you're like, because it's so cool when people come up and it's like so nice when people are like fans and they watch your stuff and all that, like I still am like, oh, wow. I remember the first time anyone saw anything and I couldn't believe it, you know, like the the first time that ever happened, it was like, I think it was Expendables or something like that. And so when some someone comes up, you're like, whoa, this is this is really cool. I think it's just hard because.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  If you, I'm developing kind of rules around the experience to try to like, just make it like, I'm just trying to be able to do it in a healthy way, which is not, not like, it's easier said than done.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 45:52Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 45:52Speaker 01

  And what's a healthy way for you?

• 45:54Speaker 02

  Like, when we were at dinner, I was like, I would, if somebody comes up at dinner, I'll say like, hey, where are you sitting? And, and they'll point it out, and then I'll say, okay, I'll take a picture with you. Do you mind we do it on the way out, when I'm like, walking out?

• 46:07Speaker 01

  And you did remember the table.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I looked at the table, and you go there afterwards, and you take a picture. But if you do it while you're sitting down, it's sort of, everybody will see that you're sort of open for business.

• 46:17Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 46:17Speaker 02

  And then we can't hang out and have a good time. So, that's my, that's my sort of new rule at dinner, is I'll say, I'll, I'll find you. And I, I mean it, like, I will, I will go find your table afterwards, I'll go take a picture. But like, if I don't, if I like, if we do it there, then the, then it's sort of like, night's over.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  Hey guys, as you know, I've been working with Bumble these past few weeks, and recently, I asked you to help revamp my profile. So first things first, I finally got verified on Bumble, so people knew it was me. But now I'm going to go through my profile, and tell you guys what I am changing. Okay, so these are my pictures. Um, the first one is of me

• 46:57Speaker 01

  in blue pants and a white t-shirt, and everyone said that I should get rid of that. And I kind of agree, I think I'm gonna switch to a more recent photo. One of the tips Bumble gives is to lead with a clear solo photo, but obviously it's important to add friends in as well. My bio is rating and reviewing octopus around the world, and being miserable at all times of the day. I actually think I'm going to keep the rating and reviewing octopus around the world, because that is still true to me today. And I think I'm gonna take out the miserable, miserable part. Even though I am miserable, I just don't think it's aided in my love search. A few people did write in and tell me that that would scare people off, and I, I do agree. Um, about me, 5'3", active undergraduate degree, wants kids, Scorpio, etc., great. My interests, dancing, making videos, gym, concerts, sleeping well.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  Pretty true to me today, you guys agree, and I think I'm gonna keep it. Second photo, I think I'm gonna change it to a photo with me and my friends, maybe a photo of me and my friends on tour. I think that shows my more recent life. My personal hell is not smoking until 6pm, as you guys all reminded me, I no longer smoke anymore. So that has to change, I'm going to change it to a different prompt. God, this is me and my friend Tom.

• 48:08Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't know if I want to change it, but I don't want to put two friend photos in a row. So maybe I'll move it down. My mental health game changer was Big Pharma. Still true. And you guys all thought that was quite funny. So I'm going to keep that. Also, another tip from Bumble is to keep your answers meaningful. And I think medication and anxiety and stuff is very meaningful to me and mental health. So I'm going to keep that. This next photo is me on the beach and you all told me that my feet were bugging you out a bit. So I think I'm going to change this to something else. I get way too excited about myself. You all thought that was funny and it is very true. So I'm going to keep that. And then this last photo is three years old. So I'm going to change it probably to me on my most recent trip to New York. There's a photo of me that I can use.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Or maybe me on tour. And here is my refreshed Bumble profile. Some of the same prompts, some different photos. Save me. Bumble, I love you. I can't wait to hopefully find love.

• 49:05Speaker 01

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• 50:38Speaker 01

  Do you remember the first time anyone ever asked you for a photo or an autograph or anything?

• 50:43Speaker 02

  You know, the funny thing was, but I, it happened when I was on this set of Expendables. My mom, my mom, I got my mom a cameo on, on Expendables.

• 50:52Speaker 01

  Well, they have cameos in all your films, right?

• 50:54Speaker 02

  So my mom has, my parents have a cameo. My mom has a great one. You haven't seen it yet, but episode four in Chad Powers. My mom plays the moaning woman.

• 51:01Speaker 01

  Moaning woman?

• 51:02Speaker 02

  The moaning woman. She's, I get kind of hurt in the, in the episode and we're at the hospital. And I, the writers room came up with this, this character where, uh, there's a woman in the hospital who like has no apparent injuries, but she's just like moaning in the waiting room. And I was like, this is such a good role for my mom.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  That's amazing.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  So, so my mom, uh, was like, I said, hey, mom, I got your role in episode four. She's like, oh my God, I'm so excited. What am I playing? I'm like, you're playing the moaning woman. She's like, what, what? Wasn't happy about that, but I was like, we got past it. And then she goes, all right, so what do I need to do? I want to do a really good job. And I said, I think it's gonna just be fun. Like, we're just gonna play.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  Kind of moan.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  Whatever, just like, good, you know, like, we'll be good.

• 51:44Speaker 02

  So she was like, no, I want to do a really good job. So she would send me videos of her moaning. So my mom is like, is this a good moan? Is this a good moment? I'm like, ah, man, I think that's good.

• 51:57Speaker 02

  And my little sister would hit me up. She's like, hey, my mom, mom wants to like do moaning coaching today.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  What?

• 52:02Speaker 02

  I'm not kidding. So my mom was like taking this so seriously. And there was a time where I was like walking down the sidewalk. My mom sent me like, you know, you're on the go. You're just like opening your texts, watching, you know, the videos. So my mom sent me a video of her moaning.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 52:14Speaker 02

  And, and, and I was like walking down the sidewalk and like, I realized that I was like, it sounded like I was just like.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  Watching porn.

• 52:21Speaker 02

  Just like, everybody like around me is like, what is he watching? Like, this is terrible. So, anyway, um, my mom has a great cameo. She absolutely crushed it.

• 52:28Speaker 01

  You see a good job?

• 52:29Speaker 02

  Crushed it.

• 52:30Speaker 01

  And does anybody else in your family have a cameo in the show?

• 52:33Speaker 02

  My dad has a cameo with Eli Manning. So Eli makes a cameo.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  Oh, was he like, this is amazing?

• 52:37Speaker 02

  And my dad is a coach next to Eli, which is great. And then, um, Yeah, they're like, so they're everything, but my mom was doing a cameo with Inexpendables 3. So Mel Gibson's the bad guy.

• 52:48Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Inexpendables 3, so I got her as like part of like the, like the group around Mel Gibson, you know, during, during that scene and so all of a sudden this guy came up, he said, "Do you mind taking a picture?" And I was like, "Oh, like, it's like my first, like, somebody recognizes me, this is cool." And then he hands me the camera and takes a pic, asked me to take a picture of my mom.

• 53:06Speaker 01

  No way. Cause he recognized your mom?

• 53:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, cause she's, she was in front of the camera. I wasn't even working that day. I just brought my mom to set to be, do her cameo. So he didn't even know I was in the movie.

• 53:17Speaker 01

  And that was your first experience with that?

• 53:18Speaker 02

  That was my first, yeah.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  How old were you?

• 53:20Speaker 02

  Twenty-four? Twenty-four?

• 53:24Speaker 01

  Did you enjoy your twenties?

• 53:25Speaker 02

  I did, I did. I really, like, honestly, being in LA, like, in your twenties and also, like, I don't know, LA's like kinda, LA goes through like these different phases, right?

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Oh yeah.

• 53:35Speaker 02

  One of my, my best buddies in the world is guy Cord Overstreet. And Cord was on the show Glee.

• 53:40Speaker 01

  Uh, do I know?

• 53:40Speaker 02

  So like, we both auditioned for Glee.

• 53:42Speaker 01

  No, wait, sorry.

• 53:43Speaker 02

  We both auditioned for the same. Sam Evans.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  Trowdy Mouth?

• 53:47Speaker 02

  Trowdy Mouth. I mean, it wasn't Trowdy Mouth at the time, right? So it turned into Trowdy Mouth with Cord.

• 53:53Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  It was really just Sam Evans, it was like, just a, uh, but we were both in the waiting room at the same time, cause we were buddies, we met in acting class, we, we were like pals for a really long time, you know, like,

• 54:05Speaker 02

  so it was like, we were close and then we were down to the wire on Sam Evans and he got it. And, but like, he's still one of my best friends and we were about to be roommates. So we moved in together as he went on this like crazy Glee ride, which was like, kinda wild to be one of your best friends in the world to be like, to watch him kinda go through that thing. It was like pretty crazy to be around. Cause it was also like the biggest show in the world. I think a lot of people remember that.

• 54:30Speaker 01

  Everybody forgets how everywhere Glee was.

• 54:33Speaker 02

  They were selling out stadiums of, of.

• 54:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, Glee on tour.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  Did you see Glee on tour?

• 54:38Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  I didn't get to go, cause I threw a temper tantrum and my mom wouldn't buy me the tickets.

• 54:43Speaker 02

  Wow. That's what you get.

• 54:44Speaker 01

  I know, I know. How was Glee on tour?

• 54:47Speaker 02

  Uh, it was epic.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  What he sang?

• 54:49Speaker 02

  He sang Billionaire.

• 54:51Speaker 01

  Stop!

• 54:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. That was the audition song.

• 54:54Speaker 01

  No, it wasn't. So you sang Billionaire in the audition?

• 54:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  No way.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude.

• 55:00Speaker 01

  Wait.

• 55:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. It's so funny, like, looking back, like, when you look back on the things that, like, you auditioned for, like, Glee was one of those that, every once in a while, you have an audition, you're like, wow, you know, your life kind of changes, you know, and to watch Cord, like, go on that ride was like, I mean, his, he was, he couldn't go anywhere.

• 55:19Speaker 01

  So do you remember, was it literally after the first episode he was in, everything shifted?

• 55:24Speaker 02

  I remember, it was even before, during his casting.

• 55:27Speaker 01

  What?

• 55:27Speaker 02

  It was like a big casting, like, everybody in town was auditioning for this.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 55:31Speaker 02

  So, like, all of a sudden, he got it, and it was like, all of LA, like, changed around him.

• 55:36Speaker 01

  Really? Everyone was like, oh, you're in Glee now?

• 55:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:38Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. Were you, was it awkward when you found out you didn't get the role, but he got the role?

• 55:43Speaker 02

  You know, look, I mean, not really. I, I don't know, I, I feel like I've always had, like, a

• 55:50Speaker 02

  long-term perspective about these things, like, things are sort of, I don't know, maybe, I think my dad is, like, incredibly zen about just the kind of the ups and downs of life, and I grew up with, like, a very, I don't know, well-adjusted family, and I've never been competitive with other people, I've been competitive with myself. Like, if I, I don't ever, like, if I don't get something, I don't ever curse the other person's name, I always curse myself, being like, I remember I auditioned for the longest ride. You remember that one? The cowboy one, the, the one, Scott Eastwood. Do you remember that one? It was like, Nicholas Sparks, you know this one, right? He's like a bull rider?

• 56:28Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 56:29Speaker 02

  You don't, you don't know, come on, hold on. You, you, you.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  Is this like a really famous movie?

• 56:34Speaker 02

  For the longest ride.

• 56:37Speaker 01

  Nicholas Sparks? Oh, Notebook?

• 56:40Speaker 02

  He, he, he was the author of The Notebook. Hold on.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, is Channing Tatum in this?

• 56:47Speaker 02

  No.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 56:48Speaker 02

  I'll, I'll say, but it was like, it was like, one of those, like, there was like, the Nicholas Sparks boom, and like, I remember, I just, like, got in that audition, and I totally crashed.

• 56:57Speaker 01

  What do you mean crashed?

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Like. Just couldn't do the job. Like, sometimes you just like get in your head and as an actor, every actor's had it happen in an audition, like where you gotta come ready to play. And I've had, you have auditions, like my Friday Night Lights audition, like I just

• 57:12Speaker 01

  So sorry.

• 57:12Speaker 02

  I just wanted it too much and I just literally, I, I, I, I

• 57:17Speaker 01

  Who did you audition for in Friday Night Lights?

• 57:19Speaker 02

  I auditioned for, my original audition here in Austin was Tim Riggins.

• 57:23Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 57:28Speaker 02

  I auditioned for Tim.

• 57:29Speaker 01

  What did you read?

• 57:30Speaker 02

  What?

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Do you remember?

• 57:31Speaker 02

  It was, it was the, it was the U M E Street, uh, Forever in Texas, that, that bit? That was the scene, that was the audition scene. Um, but I mean, like Taylor Kitsch, obviously, like smoked that role. It was like iconic. Like, I was also in high school. Those guys were all like mid twenties playing high school. Like, they, they looked the part. Like, I, I was not a cool looking Tim Riggins in high school, even though I was playing high school football.

• 57:54Speaker 01

  And you thought like, this, I've, I've got this. Like, this is mine?

• 57:58Speaker 02

  No. Tim Riggins, like, whenever you see, like, who gets these things, you're like, okay, that actually makes more sense. Then I, I auditioned for, uh, another role that was like the quarterback. I auditioned for two different quarterbacks, like J D McCoy and something else. But like, then, then I was kind of at an age where I was like, okay, I could, I could do this. And I just crashed both times.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  Really? Like, what does a crash look like? Like, you forget your life?

• 58:24Speaker 02

  It's like, where you just, it's like an out of body experience. Like, being an actor, like, you have to be really present. Like, you have to kind of like be plugged in and kind of just like, um, there's a relaxation to acting that you sort of have to have. Like, you have to be really settled. It's like a weird job because you're in front of all these people. And yet, it has to be like very private. It has to feel very intimate. And I was just so hyper aware that this was like a job that I wanted too much.

• 58:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:47Speaker 02

  And so I was like aware of everybody in the room. You're aware of all these things happening. And I just like, I couldn't, I couldn't settle into it.

• 58:53Speaker 01

  And did you make it past the first round?

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. I, I was like, it was like, it was close on, on both of them.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  Shut?

• 58:59Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like, really close. Like, I was with Pete Berg in the room. chemistry read style like it was it was whole full on

• 59:06Speaker 01

  I did. Did you ever end up watching Friday Night Lights?

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, I watched all of it.

• 59:09Speaker 01

  Best show ever.

• 59:09Speaker 02

  I loved it. I mean, it's a brilliant show. It's maybe one of the best shows ever, I think.

• 59:12Speaker 01

  You know why? And I'm not even kidding. I kind of agree.

• 59:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's it's it's. Yeah, it's incredible.

• 59:17Speaker 01

  I don't think there's any other show that just like it's a it's such a good depiction of like American life.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:24Speaker 01

  In like a small town, it takes place where in Texas? Where in Texas?

• 59:27Speaker 02

  Uh, it takes place in. I mean, in the original was Odessa Permian was the football team in the movie. This was a place called, uh, Dillon.

• 59:36Speaker 01

  Dillon, Texas. And you know, it's crazy that I don't know that because I dressed up as Tim Riggins for three Halloweens in a row.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  You were Tim Riggins, really?

• 59:43Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 59:44Speaker 02

  No way. What age?

• 59:45Speaker 01

  Um, twenty-two, twenty-three, twenty-four. No, I wore a shirt and I had a football and I put stuff under. No, I had a jersey.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  The eye black.

• 59:55Speaker 01

  The eye black. I had a football and I would pose like this.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  Very Tim Riggins.

• 1:00:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yep, essentially. What's your favorite TV show of all time?

• 1:00:05Speaker 02

  Favorite TV show of all time?

• 1:00:09Speaker 02

  That's a great question. When I was a kid, I loved Fresh Prince of Bel-Air. I had this thing like Warner, the WB was like, I guess, the CW back in the day and it was like.

• 1:00:22Speaker 01

  But is that where the Mary Kate and Ashley show was on?

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  I watched every Mary Kate and Ashley movie ever. I had two sisters. And I could quote ever pretty much any Mary Kate and Ashley movie. I'd play that game with you, actually, if you brought a quote out from Mary Kate and Ashley, I bet I could tell you which movie it's from. My, the most starstruck.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  Please.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  The most starstruck I've ever been. Do you guys, you ever see the movie Billboard Dad?

• 1:00:42Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:00:44Speaker 02

  That's Kaia Gerber. What's Billboard Dad?

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  What is Billboard Dad?

• 1:00:51Speaker 02

  All right, I'm gonna, so you pitch Chad Powers, I'll pitch Billboard Dad.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  So Billboard Dad is about, uh, Mary Kate and Ashley play these two girls. Their dad is like a sculptor in like Venice Beach, I think. And he's like the ultimate catch, but he's not putting himself out there. So they decide to put up a billboard in LA of their dad being like, hey, I'm single. And then like all these women come out of the woodwork and they're trying to set their dad up. Right? So when I was like, this must have been ten years ago, I'm in the Apple Store. And you know, you get your stuff fixed. You're at the Genius Bar, whatever. And you're sitting there, they're taking forever, and you're like, damn it, like, I'm just like waiting here. All of a sudden Billboard Dad comes and sits next to me. And we were like just stuck at the Genius Bar together, but I was like, this is one of the coolest celebrity interactions ever.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  Did you say you are Billboard Dad?

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  I wanted to, I did not.

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  You did not?

• 1:01:40Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:01:40Speaker 01

  That's respectful.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. I watched It Takes Two a lot.

• 1:01:44Speaker 01

  Holiday in the Sun?

• 1:01:45Speaker 02

  Holiday in the Sun, great one.

• 1:01:46Speaker 01

  Passport to Paris.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  What was the Double, Double, Double Toil and Trouble?

• 1:01:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Halloween one? And then what else, what else did they have?

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  When you dress up as Junie Cortez from Spy Kids 3, we also should watch Double, Double Toil and Trouble.

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  Is he in Double, Double Toil and Trouble?

• 1:02:04Speaker 02

  It's gonna be Halloween.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  Yep, okay, done. New York Minute?

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  New York Minute's a great one.

• 1:02:11Speaker 01

  Oh my god, so undercover. Wait, no, sorry.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  No, undercover's like a mile.

• 1:02:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's sorry, sorry. But what's the one where they?

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  No, that's a...

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  Witness Protection. What's the Witness Protection one? You... The Mary Kay and Ashley are witness, are in witness protection in Australia.

• 1:02:27Speaker 02

  Oh, um...

• 1:02:31Speaker 02

  Not Thunder Down Under. It's like undercover down under?

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  No, it's like...

• 1:02:35Speaker 03

  Is it our lips are sealed?

• 1:02:36Speaker 01

  Our lips are sealed!

• 1:02:39Speaker 02

  Our lips are sealed.

• 1:02:40Speaker 01

  Wow. Have you ever met the Olsen Twins?

• 1:02:42Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  Would you fangirl?

• 1:02:44Speaker 02

  For sure. I mean, because I also watched like, I also watched like, um...

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  Full House?

• 1:02:51Speaker 02

  Full House. So it's like Full House was like big. So even like getting like, John Stamos is now one of like my family's like, my, John Stamos is at my sister's wedding. You know, like he's like a family, you know, and so it's like, it's wild like, you know, because we became really close on Scream Queens.

• 1:03:05Speaker 01

  I forgot he was on Scream Queens.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:03:08Speaker 01

  When you were filming Scream Queens, were you like, yeah, this is... Iconic, or did you not like process until it came out?

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  You know what I remember about Scream Queens while you're shooting it? So this was like a weird moment in the show, which is like, it's now become like kind of cult status, like a lot of people have kind of watched it since. So the amount of people that come up to me about Scream Queens now is like way more than when it was on. Right? And so when it came out, or like we made it, you know, it's like Ryan Murphy, it's like Emma Roberts and Lea Michele and like Ariana Grande and like, it was like, it was like Jamie Lee Curtis, like a huge crazy cast. So they were like expecting this thing to be like a big, big show.

• 1:03:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:03:47Speaker 02

  And then it came out. I remember our social numbers were the biggest they've ever been for any show like the day of. And then the show came out and like, no one watched it. And I remember like the texts were like congratulatory texts the night before. And then it came out and the numbers came out and there was like, wait, how did no one watch the show when the whole world was talking about it? And it was kind of like, it was a very interesting vibe because like we kind of got picked up for a second season, but it was like, we kind of sputtered and just got there. But like, I was so proud of that show. Like the show is

• 1:04:20Speaker 01

  Hysterical.

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  So good. Like it's such a great premise and it was like, everybody on the show killed it. But it's like, it reminds you like, you can't dance before you get in the end zone. That's another Chad Powers thing.

• 1:04:31Speaker 01

  Wow, how full circle was that?

• 1:04:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a phrase I say all the time. Like people are like, oh man, congratulations. I'm like, don't dance before you get in the end zone.

• 1:04:39Speaker 01

  When is a time in your life that you've danced before you got in the end zone?

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  That's a great question. Great question. Um.

• 1:04:47Speaker 01

  Well, you kind of set it up for me.

• 1:04:48Speaker 02

  I mean, what's yours?

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  What a good question. Okay. I'm trying to think. So every day of my life I do that. So I'm trying to think, oh, are you nodding? Yeah. Okay. So I'm trying to think of a time that I, Louise, what's a time that I've danced before I got in the end zone?

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I, I thought, what, there was this role that I was, I'm trying to think and I was this, this close to it. And I was essentially telling people I got it. And, and then like, I, I was like, like celebrating, not celebrating, but like, like, I think I got pinned for the role.

• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:05:28Speaker 01

  And I'd never gotten pinned for a role before. So I was like, oh, I have it, it's mine. And so I was like, oh, this is amazing. Like, I think I'm getting this role. They asked for what dates I was available.

• 1:05:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:37Speaker 01

  And then they were like, actually, you did not get that role. So that's a time that I danced before I got in the end zone, but not like, I'm trying to think of like a time that was like, really, like, and truly like, apparent.

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  I did this on Divergent. Do you remember the movie Divergent?

• 1:05:52Speaker 01

  You, are you serious?

• 1:05:53Speaker 02

  I, I, I, I was pinned or whatever. I, I was like,

• 1:05:56Speaker 01

  For who?

• 1:05:57Speaker 02

  Peter, the Miles Teller role.

• 1:05:59Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  The Peter?

• 1:06:00Speaker 01

  My god. By the way,

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  Peter?

• 1:06:02Speaker 01

  One of the greatest movie soundtracks of all time.

• 1:06:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was, that was a sick, yeah. That was, um, uh, what's the, what's the name? Uh, Run Boy Run, or the, uh, is that the one? Oh, no, they did, not Woodkid. Woodkid?

• 1:06:16Speaker 01

  Woodkid.

• 1:06:17Speaker 02

  I think that's the name of the, the, the artist that was like the,

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  M8, M83 did it.

• 1:06:22Speaker 02

  Oh, M83 was also part of the soundtrack, yeah.

• 1:06:24Speaker 01

  Gold, Ellie Gouldlin was on it.

• 1:06:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  Like, it had some bangers.

• 1:06:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. That was a killer soundtrack.

• 1:06:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  But yeah, I was like, I thought, I fully thought I was getting that one. And I did, I did a mistake, which I never do now. I don't talk about when I'm up for something.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Okay, you don't.

• 1:06:39Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm, I'm not like, superstitious now, but I like, I realize, until the deal is done, anything can happen. Until you're on set, by the way, I've had friends that have been on sets.

• 1:06:52Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:06:52Speaker 02

  They shoot, they start shooting and they pull the plug. Did you ever hear the crazy story about Back to the Future?

• 1:06:57Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:06:58Speaker 02

  So there's this guy, um, who was the original lead of Back to the Future, right? Um, his name is, he's now a really big television director. I'll think of it a second. He, but he was the, he was originally cast in, in the lead in Back to the Future. And Eric Stoltz. Eric Stoltz. So he, and you literally can see footage of Eric Stoltz in Back to the Future. Like exactly, exactly, um, like doing the exact same frames, the exact same setups, all that stuff. And it's just a different guy. And they fired him halfway through. They were just like, it's not working. So he was like fully filming the movie. So it's always in the back of my head, like, until you have the movie in the can, like, you can always be replaced.

• 1:07:40Speaker 02

  Have you ever experienced being caught on the cutting room floor? Yeah, I remember I did this movie called, uh, The Wendell Baker Story. Uh huh. Right? So, uh, it was Luke Wilson, Owen Wilson, Will Ferrell, Eva Mendes. It was like a great cast. Kris Kristofferson, it was, it was cool. And so I played this paper boy in the movie. And like, I even, I was like practicing like crazy to be like, the stunt is basically, I'm driving down the street. I had this kind of like combative relationship with Luke Wilson in the movie. And I basically throw a paper and like, like just fuck with him and like throw papers, right? At him. And so I practiced this like stunt around and he's supposed to hit me with his car, right? Bump me from behind. So I had this crazy day with Luke Wilson.

• 1:08:23Speaker 02

  This is like, this is like peak Luke Wilson post, like, um, you know, post like, uh, what's the, what's the fraternity movie? American Pie? No, no, what's the fraternity? Why am I blanking right now? My brain is totally shot after Benson Moon. No, no, no, the one, the old school. So, so Luke Wilson did old school. It was like this, the peak Luke Wilson. And Will Ferrell's in it. So I had this amazing day shooting with all these guys. Where I'm like, like mega fan of all these guys. I like, Luke ended up hitting me with his car and I flew over and I got all scraped up. And the boys were like, you're the toughest guy ever. And they added a new scene with like us all improv-ing and it was like, great. And then I go to the premiere and I saw, I, I, we, it's, it's like the opening of the movie.

• 1:09:07Speaker 02

  And like, my whole family's there and all of a sudden I watch it and I was like, well, it just came and went like. No. Yeah, you're just like, it's like a flash of me and then it's gone. And I saw Luke afterwards and he was like, oh shoot, he's like, dude, I'm, I should have called you. I'm so sorry. I'm like, dude, it's all good, it's all good. I had a great day, you know, like, you know, hanging with the gang. But again, you just never know, like, and also it's not personal. Like I, I, I realized after that experience, like. It would have slowed the movie down. You're always trying to take time out of a movie. You're trying to make it cook and sometimes you shoot these like improv things that just don't make it, you know, I've had. You have roles that just get cut down, but it's heartbreaking because you like, especially when you're on your way up, like those little things like you're you're fighting for your, you know, you're fighting for seconds.

• 1:09:50Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do you remember a time where you were like, oh my God, I've made it. I've done it. I've made it. I'm doing the thing. And now you look back and you're like, I can't believe that was the moment I thought I made it because now it's so much more intense now.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  That's a good question. I think, I think I was, I was, I talked with a friend about this the other day, like the, the for financial freedom in this job, you're not making much money. People like, even if you're in things, people forget that like, you're not actually making that much money, right? So like, I just remember like, I think it was after Expendables. And I got paid like bare minimum, but I was there for several months. So I made like enough as like the most money I'd ever made. It's like 70,000 bucks or something like that. And I just remember being like, I don't have to think about a cup of coffee, like how much it costs. You know what I mean? Like, it was like, oh, I can, I can buy, because when you're in LA for most of that existence, you're like nickel and diming.

• 1:10:48Speaker 02

  Everything, like everything matters. You like, look at a rotisserie chicken and you're like, how long could I make this last? You know what I mean? You buy the rotisserie chicken, you're like, okay, if I break it up into however many meals, if I eat this late in the day, like how long, it's like you're when you go to a bar, like I would never drink at a bar. I'd always flask it.

• 1:11:05Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:11:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. I would hide a flask in my boot.

• 1:11:08Speaker 01

  Obsessed.

• 1:11:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. So I would, you know, it's like, not try to beat the system, but you're like, drinks in LA are expensive.

• 1:11:14Speaker 01

  So expensive.

• 1:11:14Speaker 02

  You know, and like, I would never like, you know, Josh always gave me shit. Like I'd sometimes I'd like, I'd go to dinner with people, but I would never eat.

• 1:11:21Speaker 01

  Oh, same. And I say, I'm not eating.

• 1:11:23Speaker 02

  I couldn't, I couldn't afford to split.

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  You know, it's like those sort of things. So like, once, once you like, I think it was like after Expendables and that money doesn't last long, but it felt like. There was like, there was like a bit of weight that, that, that was lifted off of like feeling like I, I didn't have to worry about everything, you know?

• 1:11:42Speaker 01

  Do you ever miss like the simplicity of a more lax career back then? Are you enjoying the rush of everything today?

• 1:11:51Speaker 02

  I mean, there's, there's, there's, I mean, there's, I would say that like, the, the intensity of the, the public thing is not intense all the time. Like you'll see it's like intense sometimes. Like sometimes you walk into an environment, it's like, it's definitely, I don't get recognized everywhere and it's like, not like a thing that like takes away. I, I'm a guy that's gonna live my life regardless. You know, you, we've been friends a long time and it's like, I, I like adventure. I like going out. I like having fun with my, my people. I can't, I, I'm not gonna change my life for this thing. I've just learned to do it a little differently.

• 1:12:24Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 1:12:25Speaker 02

  You know what I mean? But it is like, it's, it's different.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  It's different. It's harder to like meet new relationships and friends, like.

• 1:12:32Speaker 02

  It's really, that part has been something I haven't figured out yet.

• 1:12:35Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:12:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  Yeah. You'll get there.

• 1:12:38Speaker 02

  I'll get there.

• 1:12:38Speaker 01

  You'll figure it out. You got it.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Oh, well, I mean, it's like, it's like also, you know, if, if you're gonna be in a relationship, you want to do it right. I've realized like, I'm, right now in my life, I'm trying to do everything really deliberately. Like I, I'm not, I'm not a guy that like, likes feeling good about doing anything carelessly, like. So, if you're gonna date, like I will, I will, I will, I'm not dating to fill up time, cause I don't, I don't have a lot of free time.

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  Ever.

• 1:13:03Speaker 02

  To fill up, right? So, if I'm gonna, if I'm gonna date, I'm dating with like a purpose in mind and like a, you know, like to, to find the thing. And so, um, that, that, that also is just in the back of your head. When you don't have a lot of time to give someone or do it right. Sometimes I just like, don't take that first step. Which is like, maybe good and bad. You know what I mean? It's like, sometimes you're just like, man, I got this thing coming up and like, I'm gonna be in this city. Like, is it even like a good idea to?

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  Cause you already know that you can't devote time.

• 1:13:34Speaker 02

  And I don't like to be like a, a glass half empty kinda thinker because like, I really, I think that's such an important thing to continue, like putting yourself out there and doing all those things, but it's like,

• 1:13:44Speaker 02

  it's, I also wanna be considerate. Like you don't wanna be like reckless with somebody else's feelings when you know what's on the other side, but also.

• 1:13:53Speaker 02

  If it's the right thing, you'll figure it out.

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  Hundred percent.

• 1:13:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  Do you have any breaks coming up?

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  Uh, this fall, like I'm gonna be in LA like all this fall.

• 1:14:01Speaker 01

  Are we gonna hang out?

• 1:14:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, dude, we're gonna, we're gonna kick it, man. We're going on that road trip.

• 1:14:05Speaker 01

  Don't play with me. Do not play with me. I really wanna go on a road trip.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  My family's big on road trips. My family, growing up, the two things my family loves more than anything is the reason I can sleep anywhere. Like you saw me like pass out on the plane?

• 1:14:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can't do that. You're just, you're out.

• 1:14:19Speaker 02

  Anywhere. And it's because like my family, we would take road trips when we were, when I was like a kid. Like to, like if we went to Europe, like we're not spending like money on hotels and things like that. You'd basically, my family would pay for the first like two nights of the trip. And the last two nights of a hotel. So we knew we were starting and we knew we were ending up. And everything in the middle was sort of game. So we just rent a car. And you just like drive through, you go, hey, should we try to go to like Italy or like, would you wanna go to like, you know? You wanna go to Liechtenstein? You know, it's like whatever it is. And you, you just go, all right, cool, let's go do it. And, um, but half the time, that means you're sleeping in a car.

• 1:14:59Speaker 01

  I also used to, um, take road trips from New York to LA with my dad and my brother. And we used to sleep in the car. And I used to sit in that car for like 12 hours a day.

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  You're just like, but you, but I think it's a good thing for kids, like they're not like, they don't get soft. Cause like you go, my, my, my parents were like kinda big on adventure. They kinda were just like, hey. I mean, we have this attitude in my family. It's like no good story happened from things going right.

• 1:15:21Speaker 01

  That is so awesome.

• 1:15:22Speaker 02

  You know?

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  And you know what? I needed to hear that.

• 1:15:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:25Speaker 01

  Because you, I was, well, I, you know, I never finished my story about my travel experience from Paris to.

• 1:15:31Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:15:32Speaker 01

  I'll tell you about that later. It was horrible.

• 1:15:35Speaker 02

  I mean, but, but travel also is like in a relationship with your family, whatever. It's like good to be like, it's good to not have everything dialed in where you have to like problem solve together. It always makes it like, it always makes it great stories. Like, you, you don't ever like tell a story about a vacation and be like, you know, super relaxing and like people don't wanna hear that. They're like, yo, we were caught in a hurricane and we couldn't get out and blah, blah, blah. You know what I mean?

• 1:15:57Speaker 01

  That is such a good attitude to have.

• 1:15:59Speaker 02

  So it's like, that's what like my family, we have this one great story where there was this like really cool, uh, Italian town we wanted to see. It was called, uh, Vernazza. And it's right on the coast and they said inaccessible by car. But as we were driving by in Italy, my dad saw a sign that says Vernazza, this way. He's like, Maybe.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  I'm fucking going to Vernazza.

• 1:16:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's go to Vernazza.

• 1:16:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:23Speaker 02

  So we started driving and all of a sudden it started leading to like the, the roads started getting smaller and smaller and smaller. Then we're on these really high cliffs and I'm talking about the roads like little wider than this couch, like thousands of feet down and we're like the whole family and all of a sudden we get down and like the whole time it's like, we're like if, my dad literally said while we were in the car, he's like, if some other car comes, we're leaving the car and we're gonna figure it out. Like we, we, we're not gonna try to, it was.

• 1:16:52Speaker 01

  Were you scared?

• 1:16:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, and you could see cars that had fallen off.

• 1:16:55Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, you could see like, it was like, it was like people had tried and failed. Like it was a bad.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  So why didn't you guys stop the car?

• 1:17:03Speaker 02

  Well, you, we were like, where is Vernazza gonna be? Like you kept pushing, you know what I mean? Like we kept pushing. So all of a sudden we get to the bottom of this, um, we get to the bottom and all of a sudden it kind of dead ends at these trees and all of a sudden it's kind of getting dark. It's like getting dusk. And the families looking at each other like, oh man, we're gonna have to like just sleep in our car in this random thing. So it gets dark and then all of a sudden you could see through these woods, like it looked like, like fire, like candlelight or something. And my dad's like, let's go check this out. So my dad and I walked through the woods with the family and it opened up into this street. It looked like we were like time traveling. It opened up and it's like cobblestone streets and, and, and it was all like candlelight. It was

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  like so like magical and it looked like it was completely abandoned. Then we walked and there was this tavern of all these people singing. And we were like, do you have a hotel here? They said, we don't have any hotels here. And so it's like my family, it's my sisters, my mom and my dad were all like, where do we stay for the night? Do we have to go back to the car? And this random couple was hearing us in the, in the bar and they said they seemed like a good family and they let us stay at their house for the night. And we still keep in touch with them. They get a Christmas card from us every year. And it's like one of those things that like for me, I was like, that's like a great adventure. It's like sums up my family about like how we kind of travel. Like you go, if we would have like tried to just do the dance steps that everybody else goes, if we didn't kind of take the plunge, like sure, it was dangerous, sure it was crazy, but it's like a great

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  family story where it's like, we made new wonderful friends in this far corner of the world and like took the plunge together. It's like a great, you know?

• 1:18:32Speaker 01

  That is a great story. That sounds like maybe out of either two movies. One, like a rom com or a horror movie.

• 1:18:40Speaker 01

  Was it Vernazza that you ended up in?

• 1:18:42Speaker 02

  Yeah Vernazza.

• 1:18:43Speaker 01

  Oh, that was Vernazza?

• 1:18:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's Vernazza. Yeah, it's like, it's like, it's called the Chincutera Islands, which is like, these islands, and Vernazza's one of the Chincutera Islands.

• 1:18:50Speaker 01

  Wow. Okay, well Glenn, what are you therapist about today?

• 1:18:54Speaker 02

  What am I therapist about?

• 1:18:56Speaker 01

  And honestly, after hearing you talk and hanging out with you all weekend, it feels like nothing.

• 1:19:01Speaker 02

  Dude, you know, I mean, I think, I think the thing that I'm like, I'm kind of like grumpy Glenn, in the, in the fact that like, you and I are about to like, kickstart this party. Once you and I get a little tequila in us, I feel like, we're gonna beat this hangover, we're gonna hair of the dog this shit. And then, and then I get to bring you to a UT game, like, I have nothing to be therapist about.

• 1:19:19Speaker 01

  We are really good drunks together. Can I say, like, we were vibing last night. Like, at the Benson Boone concert, like, we were like, first of all, the only drunk people there.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  The only drunk people there. I turned to like, someone on his team, I'm like, I'm so drunk, and he looks at me, he goes, "It's 10:15 PM." I said, "I'm sorry."

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  You know what's really funny is, is, is we got there, it made me laugh, because we go, we, we got to kind of the box, and I said, "Hey, do you guys have like, tequila or something like that?" And he goes, "Oh, let me see what we can do." And, I'm almost positive, they had to Postmates tequila.

• 1:19:54Speaker 01

  I know that they did, because I'm thinking, I'm like, huh, the alcohol's been taking a while, like, I wonder where it is. All of a sudden, I, we're drinking, I'm like, okay, the alcohol, alcohol's here, great. And then I turn to my left, and I see a brown paper bag. I say, "Oh my god, they Postmated us alcohol for Benson Boone concert."

• 1:20:08Speaker 02

  I was very grateful, but I was also like, oh, like, we're, you know, we, we were the, we were the delinquents in that place, for sure.

• 1:20:15Speaker 01

  We were, and we were so drunk. But you held it together so well onstage.

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:20:20Speaker 01

  So well.

• 1:20:20Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:20:21Speaker 01

  I'm so excited for UT later. Like, I'm like tweaking out about it.

• 1:20:25Speaker 02

  We, so, so, I'm gonna teach you the chants, we're gonna have you drink out of a boot and a hat. Um, I'm gonna, I even wanna see if I can get you to shoot off the cannon.

• 1:20:34Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:20:35Speaker 02

  There's a cannon, that when Texas scores, we shoot.

• 1:20:38Speaker 01

  Please, I'll do anything.

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  So, I'm going to, I'm gonna introduce you to Bevo, I'm gonna see if I can get you to shoot this cannon.

• 1:20:43Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:20:44Speaker 02

  And I'm gonna see if there's any sort of other rites of passage that you need to have, but I don't think you're really truly ready for a Texas game today. There's nothing like it.

• 1:20:51Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm really excited. Louise is like from the south and she said like, "I'm not ready."

• 1:20:55Speaker 02

  No, it's like great. I went to, I went to a game in Tuscaloosa when Texas played, uh, you remember that game? Yeah.

• 1:21:04Speaker 01

  Am I a good house guest?

• 1:21:05Speaker 02

  You're the best house guest.

• 1:21:07Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:21:07Speaker 02

  I told you, man. I was like, I was, I was impressed with, um, you woke up just so peacefully in those pajamas. You, you have a great pajama set.

• 1:21:15Speaker 01

  Do you know there's Texas flags on those pajamas?

• 1:21:17Speaker 02

  I did not see that.

• 1:21:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:18Speaker 02

  Oh, actually, can I give, can I give you a little, a little gift?

• 1:21:21Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:21:22Speaker 02

  We, we got you.

• 1:21:24Speaker 01

  No, you didn't.

• 1:21:25Speaker 02

  Here we go, buddy. This is, this is, this is just, you know, not that I don't love your pajamas, but I thought, you know, this could be like a nice little, uh...

• 1:21:32Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm gonna wear this to bed tonight. Oh my God, you know, if I wasn't Glenn, thank you.

• 1:21:38Speaker 02

  Maybe we could wear this on Sixth Street tonight?

• 1:21:40Speaker 01

  Wait, can I?

• 1:21:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally.

• 1:21:42Speaker 01

  Can we actually go to Sixth Street?

• 1:21:43Speaker 02

  Yes, please. I think, I think you on Sixth Street would be trouble, but I think we'll, we'll find it.

• 1:21:50Speaker 01

  Glenn, I love you.

• 1:21:50Speaker 02

  I love you, buddy.

• 1:21:51Speaker 01

  Thank you. This is so thoughtful. Before we wrap up, you know what we have to do?

• 1:21:56Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:21:57Speaker 01

  Tell me what's wrongs.

• 1:21:58Speaker 02

  Oh, yes.

• 1:21:59Speaker 01

  My new girlfriend's dad offered me a cigar. I accepted even though I have never smoked one. I assumed it was like anything else you smoke and I inhaled it. I was coughing relentlessly and crying my eyes out on the floor. Him and his friends were literally pointing and laughing. How do I come back from this?

• 1:22:14Speaker 02

  No, I think, I think that's a, that's a good thing.

• 1:22:17Speaker 01

  As you say, no good story comes from a good situation.

• 1:22:20Speaker 02

  They now know you did something to win their approval that you didn't want to do. I think that's like, there's a little bit of hazing. Whenever like a, you know, boyfriend or girlfriend comes into the family and meets everybody, there's a little bit of like hazing that goes on. I think like the cigar smoking means they like you. It means they like, you're not boring. They want to like put you through this shit and see how you handle it.

• 1:22:39Speaker 01

  How do you initiate your sister's now husbands into the Powell family? How did you?

• 1:22:46Speaker 02

  We, um, you know, my, my, my, my dad, like for instance, I'll, I'll tell you like when my, um, my, uh, my dad met my mom's family for the first time, they pulled a prank where they acted like...

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  They were like a real redneck sort of family. So it's a very well educated, like smarter family. But they were acting like they were wearing like the craziest clothes, like, you know, put like black stuff on their teeth, like, like, true. They, they rented cars that were like, the seats were missing. They loaded the, the car up with like pit bulls. And, and, and, and basically my, um, my, my dad, like when, when my dad landed. My uncle Billy and Steven picked him up. And they were like, hey, but you know, sorry Cindy can't be here, but like, you know, get in the car and they, they're like dogs. Like my dad's wearing a full suit to like impress the family. And there's like dogs drooling all over him. They give him a beer. They're like, here, drink this.

• 1:23:45Speaker 02

  And they had hired a buddy of theirs, part who worked for the government in a, in a, like a blacked out, like Lincoln town car. With a siren to pull them over. And they said, hey, hey. This is the most insane commitment to the bed I've ever heard in my entire life. My family, my family's big on pranks. Very big on pranks. So they, the, the town car pulls them over and my, he goes, shit, it's the feds. And my uncle gets out and pretends to have a knife fight and murder this guy on the side of the road. And then the guy pretends to kill my uncle and pulls, pulls him through the wind, the, the, the window and says, welcome to Texas, boy.

• 1:24:23Speaker 02

  And that was literally my dad's, well, that was like him meeting the family. Like it was a, he thought he witnessed a, like a murder. Like that's like, that's the level of like, I always tell people, like, when people are like, did, did I meet your family? I'm like, like, especially like my aunt honey, like, like, I'm like. Aunt honey? Yeah, honey, who's rowdy. It, I'm like, if you don't know if you've met them, you haven't met them. Cause they're like so rowdy. That is the most insane prank I've ever heard. Was your dad scared? Yeah, absolutely. He thought he was going to jail. He's like, oh my God, like I just watched a man get murdered and like.

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  So but like it's like those sort of things where like the whole family. I believe that everybody a true like for me if I'm like if I give people shit.

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  Like it means I love you.

• 1:25:09Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  It means like it means I'm so comfortable with you that we can like. You know, mess with each other and take the piss out of each other and not like.

• 1:25:17Speaker 02

  It's a it's just a level of confidence in a relationship in my opinion. So I think this cigar thing I think is a good thing.

• 1:25:23Speaker 01

  And you just came so full circle with that in a way that I've never experienced. What is the best prank you've ever played on someone? Cause I can tell you mine.

• 1:25:32Speaker 02

  The one that I get quoted about forever because I released 3,000 crickets in the school on the last day of school and so it like.

• 1:25:39Speaker 01

  You released 3,000 crickets.

• 1:25:41Speaker 02

  On the last day of eighth grade.

• 1:25:42Speaker 01

  How did you manage that?

• 1:25:44Speaker 02

  Well, I.

• 1:25:45Speaker 01

  You put them in your backpack?

• 1:25:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I put them I didn't I I basically how I did it was I went to the I went to the pet store. And you get you can just buy crickets at the pet store. So I bought 3,000 crickets and then I hid them. In the the woods outside the school. And so then. I got like guys to kind of like go during bathroom breaks and stuff like that to get the crickets, hide them in the ceiling. Then like the next guy would take them out of the ceiling, scatter them. We had like a whole like operation. So right before the lunch bell would ring where people like flooded this one hallway. It was like a big like bottleneck area. I was like. This is where we got to release the crickets. I like released all these crickets. So everybody came out of the thing like heading to lunch and there were crickets just like. Everywhere. So so I get quoted for that one a lot. That was a good that was a good like high school prank because I got in a lot of trouble for it.

• 1:26:31Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:26:32Speaker 02

  They figured out I did it. Yeah.

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  I mean. How would they not?

• 1:26:35Speaker 02

  I know. Yeah.

• 1:26:36Speaker 01

  Were you like, I did it, sorry?

• 1:26:37Speaker 02

  None of my none of my friends ratted me out.

• 1:26:39Speaker 01

  Oh, good friends.

• 1:26:39Speaker 02

  But but but. It got back.

• 1:26:42Speaker 01

  So the cigar story is just a story?

• 1:26:44Speaker 02

  I think the cigar story I I truly believe that like a cigar I I think it's a good thing. It means they like you.

• 1:26:49Speaker 01

  I mean, I've mortified myself in so many ways and not in front of like my significant other. I don't have a significant other, obviously. Family, but um my friends' families all the time. None of my friends like any of the things I like. So music, shows, movies, restaurants, nothing. Hmm. So in order to indulge in any of my passions, I have to be alone or force someone to go with me awkwardly. Why are you friends with them? What is the remedy to this, please?

• 1:27:14Speaker 02

  What do you think about this one?

• 1:27:15Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't know why you're friends with people who shared zero interests.

• 1:27:17Speaker 02

  I don't seem like a friend.

• 1:27:19Speaker 01

  That feels like friends by force. Like you're just like you grew up with them and like they're your friends.

• 1:27:24Speaker 02

  That's a confusing one. Cause I feel like, I feel like the first step of friendship is that you like, you bond over something.

• 1:27:32Speaker 01

  What, that's the first thing we bonded over.

• 1:27:34Speaker 02

  First thing we bonded over? Pilates.

• 1:27:37Speaker 01

  Thank?

• 1:27:39Speaker 02

  I mean, the one thing that I love, see, this is, this is like a good example where it's like, your shakes on the pilates machine? Like that was where I was like, oh, this guy's like, and your commentary on it was so funny. I was like, wait, what is happening right now? And it just like immediately endeared you, like endeared me to you. I was just like, oh my God, I love this guy. Cause you're just hilarious about it. And I think that's it. It's like, again, like, people not being cool, like people not being like so protective, like being self-aware that we all do weird shit.

• 1:28:08Speaker 01

  Right. A hundred percent. Hi, I'm Emily. Hi Emily. And I, and I never know how to read a room. People can be really upset with me and I won't pick up on it and continue making jokes vice versa too. How do I practice self-awareness going forward so as not to alienate myself from social groups?

• 1:28:26Speaker 01

  You're really good at reading a room. Was that something you learned or just born with it?

• 1:28:30Speaker 02

  That's a good, that's a really good question.

• 1:28:33Speaker 02

  What is your opinion about that?

• 1:28:37Speaker 01

  To be honest, I don't think you can learn how to read a room. I, I think like, I, I think, sorry, I take that back. I think if you continue putting yourself in situ, if you have somebody with you that will call you out when you're not reading the room properly, to take in what you've done in that moment to not read the room properly and take it with you to the next time. And like each time it'll get better and better and better and better. It's like pouring water into a cup with sand. Like eventually the sand comes out.

• 1:29:03Speaker 02

  Do you have the thing that when you go to an event? Or have a conversation with somebody, when you get home and you go back by yourself, that you have sort of the Sunday scaries? Or like whatever, the Monday morning quarterbacking, like everything that happened?

• 1:29:16Speaker 01

  I, my entire life is like a Sunday scaries.

• 1:29:19Speaker 02

  I do this all the time where I'll like, you know, it's very nice you say I could read a room, but I'll like, I'll like literally go to something and I'll like have all these conversations and then I'll get home and I'll be like, "Why did you do that? Like, why did you say that?" Like, I'll literally just like hate on myself. And that's one thing I'm trying to get better about, which is just being like, okay, like, people know your good intentions, like, we all make mistakes, you know, sort of thing, but it's like, it's hard, like, sometimes you slip up and say like, the exact thing that you're not supposed to say,

• 1:29:42Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:29:43Speaker 02

  to the person that you're like, "Why did I do that?"

• 1:29:45Speaker 01

  What is like, without naming names, the worst time you've put your foot in your mouth?

• 1:29:51Speaker 02

  I'm not gonna say it.

• 1:29:51Speaker 01

  Okay, never mind.

• 1:29:53Speaker 02

  I have, I have one in the back of my head that my buddies like give me shit about all the time.

• 1:29:57Speaker 01

  Will you tell me after?

• 1:29:57Speaker 02

  I'll tell you afterwards.

• 1:29:58Speaker 01

  Okay, amazing. My best friend initially got engaged last year. She had told me that she was going to ask me to be a bridesmaid in her wedding. A month ago, I found out from another friend that she had asked all of her bridesmaids already and I was not included. This really hurt my feelings, but I haven't been able to tell her. I feel like I'm resenting her because of it and I don't like it, I just can't get over it. I would say on like the good side of things, being a bridesmaid is such hard work.

• 1:30:20Speaker 02

  I totally agree.

• 1:30:21Speaker 01

  You have bachelor, bachelor trip, all these different things, like, it's so expensive, like, just try to look on the bright side of it and also like, maybe reevaluate your relationships if you thought you were close enough to be a bridesmaid and you obviously weren't.

• 1:30:33Speaker 02

  Totally. And also, like, weddings are a lot of obligatory invites, like, nobody thinks about it, it's like, my little sister just threw her wedding and like, like, she has to kind of do the thing where it's like, there's the people that you have to invite that are like your family or this or whatever it is, or people that grew up or have been really helpful with the family or whatever it is. And then there's those people that you're really close to and like, you can't please everybody, you know what I mean? And I think like the, the thing that I'm like realizing, especially on the, that sort of aspect, like, I come from a family, like, we call my mom FOMO sometimes, like, she's just, epitomizes FOMO, she wants to be a part of everything, but we realize is that like, I think the worst thing that social media has done for people,

• 1:31:15Speaker 02

  is show them what they weren't attending, like, what they weren't a part of. And if you're the kind of person that like, feeds into that and is like, that kills them, it's a really, it's a really horrible place, like, I, I'm always like a, I'm always like, I do this thing in my career where like I got a good advice early on where I said they said don't look in the other lanes. You're running your own race, right? Which is like if somebody else is doing good, I'm like, that's good. That's good for the business. It's good when people are working. It's good when people are thriving, like you root for everybody to win. And like, I kind of feel the same way like on a social aspect. I'm like, when I watch people like living their best life, like that shouldn't eat at you. Like you should be like, hey, I should go live my best life too. Like it's, you should root for people to be happy and have fun, but like the, the bridesmaid thing in particular

• 1:32:00Speaker 02

  is like, I always think that like in the back of your head, you should always remember like there's other politics going on other than the simplicity of do I like you?

• 1:32:07Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:32:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:09Speaker 01

  What do you think? Oh, you're so wise. Do you ever feel like I'm so wise?

• 1:32:14Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:32:15Speaker 01

  You don't feel that way? What is like the biggest lesson you've learned in the past year?

• 1:32:18Speaker 02

  Probably if you're, if you are genuinely well meaning,

• 1:32:26Speaker 02

  you can never, no matter what happens, if you try to do your best, then like doing, doing your best, like try to treat people well, trying to show up for your job. Like, like trying to, I, I, it's like a hard thing to explain, but like, I feel like right now, I feel like I can get caught in a bit of a, a storm of a lot of things I can't control. And it can be hard for someone who like is trying to show up and do their best to be like, wait, why is this happening? Why is this happening? And I think the real, the thing that I go, if you can look at yourself in the mirror and go like, hey, I did my best. I tried my hardest, whatever it is like, then that's a thing that like kind of releases all the chaos of the world, which is

• 1:33:10Speaker 02

  we're all going to make mistakes. We're all going to do whatever. But like, if you can look yourself in the mirror and go, I, I tried my best. I tried to show up and I tried to treat people well, whatever. It's like giving yourself a little bit of grace. Cause I'm, I really do, I'm a sensitive person and I can be really hard on myself. And I like everybody, like my mom was like, I never had to punish you because you punished yourself. Like I, I was always like a kid that like, if I, if I made a mistake or did something wrong, I was, I hated myself.

• 1:33:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:33:35Speaker 02

  I couldn't get over it. And I still do that. I still do that to a great degree. If I, if I feel like I've, I fumbled, if I hurt somebody or I feel like I fumbled, like I really, I get, I go dark fast and I'm, I'm, I'm trying to. In this, in this phase of life, you realize like, you're never trying to disappoint people, but so many people sort of ask for your, your time and, and, and attention. And there's only so many hours in the day and you really want to show up for everybody. But like, I think in the past, I would really hate myself for not being able to make everybody happy. And I'm trying to get better about like, giving myself grace, being like, hey, you did your best. Like, you can't, you can't do it for everybody, you know?

• 1:34:14Speaker 01

  Glenn, that's beautiful. You have such a good outlook on life. Oh, this one is interesting because we were talking about this last night. And it kind of relates to Chad Powers. My best friend is turning into a conspiracy theorist lately, and it's so fucking tiring. Like, to a point where even if it's something that's believable or something, I don't even care. Because I want my old buddy and I's, I want my old buddy and I's conversations back. Is there anything I can do? And you said something so fascinating about conspiracy theorists yesterday. Can you share?

• 1:34:45Speaker 02

  Well, basically what I was saying is like, so writing Chad Powers, the, the character of Russ Holiday, this horrible thing happened to him that, you know, he made this mistake in front of the whole world and his sort of life burned down. And what happened was he became like a conspiracy theorist, right? Where he believed in sort of all of these things of like, there has to be a, a like dark, you know, figures behind any bad thing that, that happens. Or, or a meaning that's not just like, hey, sometimes bad things happen, you know? And so what I find that a lot of conspiracy theorists, like my point of view about a lot of conspiracy theories, is that it's just like, people not taking accountability, right?

• 1:35:26Speaker 02

  They, it's hard to describe, th- this world is a complicated place. And like scary things happen and bad things happen, and they're hard to fathom. And the why of it, like evil does exist. And so instead of trying to go, hey, you know, like, um, you know, instead of trying to go like, hey, like, uh, bad things happen, you sort of like, double down on this. Idea that there's, there's a mechanism behind the world that's out to get you. And I think that's like, a thing that like is in the back of my head is like, look, sure, there are, there are some of these conspiracy theories, like, absolutely, they're very possible. And there's a lot of things that, you know, I, I always think we should always be questioning

• 1:36:09Speaker 02

  the truth of things, not just be feeding what the media gives you. I think that's really important. I think it's always important to question things. But I do find that like, that was a, that was a basic part of Chad Powers is that, all, him just saying like, hey, I made a mistake and my life fell apart. Instead of doing that, he blames it on everyone else. And like, I think accountability is like, conspiracy theorists for me, are a lot of people that just aren't taking accountability for the fact that the world is hard to explain sometimes.

• 1:36:36Speaker 01

  Right. And it's like, what you said was like, they believe that the world is working against them.

• 1:36:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:36:42Speaker 01

  Instead of just existing.

• 1:36:44Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:36:45Speaker 01

  Right. I thought that was so smart.

• 1:36:46Speaker 02

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:36:47Speaker 01

  And I think you should show that to your friend who's obsessed with conspiracy theories.

• 1:36:50Speaker 02

  Totally, totally.

• 1:36:52Speaker 01

  Glenn, what did we learn today?

• 1:36:55Speaker 02

  It's always, it's always a journey with you, man. I'm, I'm, it's like, it really, we covered a lot.

• 1:37:00Speaker 01

  Can I say?

• 1:37:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:37:01Speaker 01

  I think this washes our other podcast out of the water.

• 1:37:04Speaker 02

  I totally agree. And can I tell you something? I told a lot of bizarre shit, and I know all of it is factual.

• 1:37:12Speaker 01

  Cheers.

• 1:37:13Speaker 02

  Cheers, buddy.

• 1:37:14Speaker 03

  Eyes.

• 1:37:15Speaker 01

  Okay, so after this, I'm gonna go put on my cowboy outfit.

• 1:37:18Speaker 02

  Let's go.

• 1:37:19Speaker 01

  And we're gonna start drinking.

• 1:37:20Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:37:21Speaker 01

  And have the best day of my life.

• 1:37:22Speaker 02

  I can't wait.

• 1:37:23Speaker 01

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:37:25Speaker 02

  Dude, I'm so happy you're here, man. The cowboy hat, I think this has to be kinda like your new look.

• 1:37:29Speaker 01

  I honestly think it might be. Austin, Texas has been very good to me so far.

• 1:37:33Speaker 02

  It's a good look on you.

• 1:37:34Speaker 01

  And I think if I play the part, it'll be even better.

• 1:37:37Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 1:37:38Speaker 01

  Okay, do you wanna give a little, bye pussies, hook 'em?

• 1:37:41Speaker 02

  Bye pussies, hook 'em.

• 1:37:53Speaker 04

  Welcome to the 50th Hunger Games.

• 1:37:55Speaker 00

  Witness the beginning of the revolution.

• 1:37:57Speaker 04

  Hey Mitch, you've been trying to take down these games from the start.

• 1:38:00Speaker 00

  Filmed for IMAX.

• 1:38:01Speaker 04

  Make them remember you.

• 1:38:04Speaker 00

  The Hunger Games: Sunrise on the Reaping, November 20th, rated P13.