Session 92: Dylan Efron

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• 0:40Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapists. Tonight, we have on my king Dylan Efron. We met on a Samsung shoot, and we just had the best day together. And he was making me laugh really hard. And I was like, "We gotta come on Therapists." And now he's here. Also, I partnered with Bumble, and we did some special Tell Me What's Wrong's that were dating themed for tonight's episode, which were fun to answer, especially because Dylan's in a long-term relationship and I never had a boyfriend. But I actually recently just started using Bumble because I feel like online dating is the new, like, meeting someone at a bar. And I changed to Bumble because I needed to go to a new bar and I needed a change of scenery.

• 1:25Speaker 01

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• 2:04Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapists. Today, we have on Dancing with the Stars newest contestant and one of my dear friends, dare I say, Dylan Efron.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  I'm so excited.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  I'm excited, oh my gosh.

• 2:19Speaker 01

  Well, can you tell the viewers about who this is before we begin?

• 2:22Speaker 02

  This is Bowie and he, he looks, oh yeah, he's, he's hamming it up.

• 2:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, I've had Bowie about five years. He, he's like, goes everywhere with me.

• 2:32Speaker 01

  Really? And you rescued him?

• 2:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was a rescue from I Stand With My Pack. They're, they're a great organization. But I, I got him right at the end of COVID and then.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  So he's a COVID dog?

• 2:42Speaker 02

  I guess so. I'd just come back from filming Down To Earth, season two, and then came home, got him immediately.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  Okay. And how did, did the idea for Down To Earth start from just like all your travel vlogs?

• 2:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, pretty much. Like that, that was always what Zach and I loved the most was like, how can we travel? How can we turn the, like, what we love into a show? And so it kind of matched all these boxes for us. It was like sustainability, travel, and then us traveling the world.

• 3:08Speaker 01

  Oh, are you sustainable?

• 3:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I try to be.

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Okay, so like you recycle and stuff?

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, I recycle and stuff.

• 3:13Speaker 01

  Okay, do you compost?

• 3:15Speaker 02

  I've tried. I'm not good at it.

• 3:18Speaker 01

  What is compost?

• 3:19Speaker 02

  Compost is like all the scraps of all your food waste and everything and then it, it becomes this very nutrient dense.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  I knew it was meat. I was, you know, I was throwing out leftover meat in the compost and everyone was telling me that that's not what it's for.

• 3:34Speaker 02

  No, I think, I think it's mostly like fruit and stuff, like fruit banana peels.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 3:39Speaker 02

  And stuff like that. And then it becomes this nutrient dense stuff that you can repurpose. But I don't have a big yard. I like, I don't, like, if I lived on a farm and had chickens, yeah.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  Do you want to live on a farm and have chickens?

• 3:50Speaker 02

  I would love that.

• 3:50Speaker 01

  Really?

• 3:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Okay, like, in how many years would you want to live on a farm and have chickens?

• 3:55Speaker 02

  Oh, gosh. Uh, like, probably two. Like, if I had kids and stuff, I'd love to move out somewhere.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Two years?

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:03Speaker 01

  You, two years, you want to live on a farm and have chickens?

• 4:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:06Speaker 01

  Where would your, where would you want your farm?

• 4:08Speaker 02

  Um, probably like, it's so hard for me to leave California because I'm born and raised here. So maybe somewhere like Ojai or, or just close enough that I could still get to the city.

• 4:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  Or even in my hometown, like St. Louis, Spisbaria.

• 4:22Speaker 01

  Would you sell stuff out of your farm?

• 4:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  What would you sell?

• 4:28Speaker 02

  Uh, I already mentioned chickens. I, I think like.

• 4:30Speaker 01

  Eggs?

• 4:31Speaker 02

  I, I don't know. I, I'd probably try to find like a random thing like avocados or something. Or like a random fruit that's like exotic and I'd be known for that. I'm like selling dragon fruits.

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Right. So what are the chickens there for?

• 4:45Speaker 02

  From a compost. From a compost.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Okay, okay. And so what would you like call your farm business?

• 4:52Speaker 02

  Um.

• 4:56Speaker 02

  Misguided, misguided compost. Yeah, from traders. Misguided compost chickens.

• 5:03Speaker 01

  Misguided compost, not um.

• 5:07Speaker 01

  Environment, Efron?

• 5:09Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 5:12Speaker 01

  I don't like it. Um, wait, so can you tell me how traders was? I mean, I'm sure you've talked about it at nauseam, but how, did you enjoy it?

• 5:18Speaker 02

  I loved it. I remember my first day, like, I'm used to like, union stuff, so it's like you have 12 hours on. We finished at like, 2, 3 a.m. and I was like, oh, at least we don't have to start till 3 the next day. My call time was like 7. And I was like, wait, wait, wait.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  It is, but they like somehow work the system, like you are, you are in it. So like.

• 5:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  When we got too tired, they could, they would know and they would give us like a full day rest.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  So what was like the most fun part of it? Like you, but I heard you were like in the game.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:50Speaker 01

  Like I heard you were like, that you were dead serious about it.

• 5:53Speaker 02

  I was.

• 5:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 5:55Speaker 02

  Um, I'm competitive in that way. Uh, the best part was truly like, just. I, I'd say that's twofold. It was like those roundtable moments where like my heart was beating through my chest, like.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  Oh, it was like, it was fucking serious.

• 6:07Speaker 02

  So serious and so scary. So like, that's fun for that, but then also just all the off-camera laughs, like. You're, we're bringing 20, like, very interesting people all into the same castle and like getting to know everyone, hearing all their stories, like. That was really what stood out to me.

• 6:25Speaker 01

  Would you do it again?

• 6:26Speaker 02

  I would, yeah, I would.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  I feel like it looks really fun.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  I, I think that's, that's like my thing is like, if I did it again, who knows how I would do whatever it is, but it's like. It was such a memorable experience to me and that's what life's about. Like, I'll always. Look back at that year and be like, wow, that was truly an unforgettable moment.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  Is, what was like your favorite year of your life so far?

• 6:48Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 6:51Speaker 02

  I would, hard to argue with this last one, like.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  The traitors year.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, the traitors year, like it was just so new to me, like all this. Like I've got to go to so many fancy events and like, I don't know, I'm so grateful for it all. So I think it was, it's so noteworthy because it was different than the rest of my life. The rest of my life, I've been very humble, like doing my own thing and I don't know, just kind of live it like living my, what I like and stuff. This year was just so different. So I like it.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  Well, you used to work as a P A, right?

• 7:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:25Speaker 01

  So was it, when you were on set for traitors, like, did it feel weird that you were on the opposite side of it?

• 7:32Speaker 02

  A little. I think social media helped a lot with that because like when I, yeah, I worked at Warner Brothers for seven years and was like on set and always behind the camera. So I understand how that world works. And then social media really helped me like find my voice and be comfortable in who I am. So then when I started stepping in front of camera, I was like, okay, I'm not this nervous kid that like can't be on screen like I thought I was like, I can, I just have to be comfortable in who I am. And that, I think that's why it took me a while to ever like share my story and stuff like that.

• 8:03Speaker 01

  Right. And so you said like, you're a grateful person?

• 8:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  How do you do that?

• 8:11Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 8:12Speaker 01

  Like, how do you like, like, well, I've been told often um by someone that shall not be named Louise, that I am ungrateful. So I would just like to know how you practice gratitude.

• 8:29Speaker 02

  How do I practice gratitude?

• 8:33Speaker 02

  I know what you mean though, because it's like, you talk about first world problems and like first world problems can really.

• 8:38Speaker 01

  Well, I just like love to complain.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  Like I woke up today and I was like.

• 8:43Speaker 02

  I think it's, I think it's just you have to catch yourself in those moments once in a while and be like, wow, like this is not the end of the world. Like this is such a small blip and I have so much to be thankful for.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  Totally. How do you do that?

• 8:57Speaker 02

  I will say, have you ever journaled?

• 9:00Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  That's kind of me, look.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  I tried like twice.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  Same.

• 9:03Speaker 01

  I tried twice, but I, but I was told what changed my life the other day was like, you don't need to journal that much. Like you can write two sentences and that's your journal for the day.

• 9:10Speaker 02

  Same. So like I, I've done it. I've gone through phases. I cannot continue doing it.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Okay, wait, wait, wait.

• 9:16Speaker 02

  What?

• 9:17Speaker 01

  Would you want to journal like together? Like we'll hold each other accountable for journaling?

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Wait, I'm, I'm in for this. This is good. Yeah.

• 9:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 9:24Speaker 02

  Oh, that scared Boo.

• 9:25Speaker 01

  Ooh, hi puppy. So.

• 9:28Speaker 01

  Um, I'm down to journal like that.

• 9:30Speaker 02

  And well, it'll probably fade to like once a week, but that's even.

• 9:34Speaker 01

  Well, how many? Yeah, probably once a week.

• 9:37Speaker 02

  But I'm, I'm down because I want to be held accountable. What I was going to say about journaling is like, I'm sure you're the same way. Like, are we, I have an active brain and I can like my inner voice can be super negative and like.

• 9:48Speaker 01

  What? I do not get that from you. Tell me more.

• 9:50Speaker 02

  I think everybody's can be negative. Um, so like I'll be hard on myself or something like, I, I don't know. Like maybe like, I think I was journaling during traders and I was mad at myself for doing something. So like my inner voice, I'm like, God, I can't believe I made that mistake. I go to write it down in a journal. I can't write negative things about myself. It's like I'm, I'm thinking these negative things. How, oh, I wish I could have, would have done this. I'm an idiot. And then I go to journal it and I'm like, you tried your best. You were yourself. You were authentic. And it's like all these nice things.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  Let me ask you, can you type negative things about yourself?

• 10:26Speaker 02

  I haven't tried that.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  Okay. Cause I do that frequently. But I think that's so interesting. I'm going to try to write negative about myself today and let you know how that works.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  Positive.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  Right. Okay. Um. Puppy on up.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  Hey, you're going crazy, Boo. Get up here.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  Did you, were you able to bring him on set for traders?

• 10:45Speaker 02

  No, I wish. I kept saying that.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Were you sad?

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. Cause Alan got to bring his dog and I would see him every day.

• 10:51Speaker 01

  What a double standard.

• 10:52Speaker 02

  I know. But I was saying there should be a version where we all bring our dogs.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  It would, it would be like, it would feel like a home, big castle with dogs running everywhere.

• 11:01Speaker 01

  What was the word you taught me to get? Dust.

• 11:04Speaker 02

  Dust. Have you used it?

• 11:06Speaker 01

  No, but have you been using tears?

• 11:07Speaker 02

  No.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  Is it, has it faded yet or are you still on tears?

• 11:12Speaker 01

  It's dust.

• 11:13Speaker 02

  It's dust.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  It's dust for me. Louise, do you remember dust?

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Um, I need to start using tears more or dust more. I use tears enough. Tears is the best though, because like.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  Like, I woke up yesterday at 6 a.m. It was tears. Yeah. For you, it would be dust. No, I hurt, I throw out my back and I would like. That's tears? Yeah, tears and dust. When did you get to throw out your back? I did it, um, ah, God, I did it like two days ago when I was in the, um, the Hamptons. It was. What, you were in the Hamptons two days ago? I was. For what? Just fun? Yeah. Okay. But.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  But, uh, yeah, it was so stupid. I was, yeah, I literally, I, I, I watched this like Sex and the City clip where Miranda like fell in the shower and then someone had to. Do you watch Sex and the City? I, a little bit, not a lot. What's a little? A little's like, I've probably watched like 15 episodes. That's a lot. But it, it was literally that. Like my agent had to come in and like help me put my pants on because I couldn't. What? Yeah, I couldn't move. I was like, Garrett, like this is cone rat, like. Is that age? I don't know. I've always done stuff like this. How old are you? Thirty-three. I knew that. But. It feels like everybody's thirty-three these days. I did it with someone, thirty-three? I, I, you were, you were saying you're like scared of turning twenty-five, is that what it was? Twenty-six. Twenty-six? Yeah. Yeah. I'm a little frightened.

• 12:33Speaker 02

  Life gets better. Really? Yeah. Like, I've been throwing out my back since twenty, since I was twenty-five. Like, everyone that says your, your body gets worse as you get older, like, I, I don't believe that. Okay, but you're, you like to work out a lot. So what do you, how do you work out if you throw out your back? I can't. And that's when I get depressed and starts, start getting angry. I, I, I, uh, my like ability to work out and like sweat and stuff is so tied to my happiness, which I wish it wasn't that way, but it really is. Have you been like that your entire life? Yeah, yeah, even more so in the past. Cause like, I, in my probably like early twenties and stuff, I was doing Ironmans and like super competitive triathlons. What's an Ironman again?

• 13:15Speaker 02

  Ironman's like the marathon, a two-mile swim and a hundred ten-mile bike. So it's like. What's the point? Yeah, exactly. That's why I don't do it anymore. Did you ever complete one? Yeah, I was like. And how do you?

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  I was good.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Have you ever shit your pants on one?

• 13:31Speaker 02

  No, but you pee your pants a lot.

• 13:32Speaker 01

  You peed your pants?

• 13:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:34Speaker 01

  You wear a diaper?

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, you just do it while you're running and no one knows.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Cause you have to pee so bad?

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, and you do it on the bike, you like, kinda just hop off the bike a little bit, like hop off the seat, then once you start, you're like, alright, and you could pedal through it and everything. But you, you're like, the worst is when you're following someone and they start peeing and you're like, ah!

• 13:51Speaker 01

  No way!

• 13:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're like, you're out of the way.

• 13:53Speaker 01

  But is it just the time, or is it just, is it, what is it?

• 13:56Speaker 02

  Like, my fastest Ironman, I finished in ten and a half hours, so it's, I had to pee.

• 14:01Speaker 01

  And why, though?

• 14:02Speaker 02

  Again, yeah, I can't.

• 14:03Speaker 01

  Do you ever like, take a break to breathe, or is it just non-stop?

• 14:06Speaker 02

  No, you can't, like, for, for me, I was competing, so I was on, no headphones, nothing, like, just, yeah.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  So what do you listen to?

• 14:15Speaker 02

  No, you couldn't listen, no headphones.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  So...

• 14:18Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 14:18Speaker 01

  Like, what's going through your head?

• 14:21Speaker 02

  Again, my inner voice.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Being like, I'm doing an Ironman?

• 14:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, I could do this, like, either, either positive or negative, depending on the race. Yeah, some people do have to stop if they have to poop their pants, like.

• 14:33Speaker 01

  Really?

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Luckily, that never happened to me.

• 14:34Speaker 01

  Have you ever been behind someone that's shit their pants?

• 14:36Speaker 02

  No, but I've seen people running into the urinals, which would suck, like, if you're on a ten-hour race, you're like, up there, competing for first or second, and then you have to run into the urinal to take a crap, that's like, that's gotta be a shitty feeling.

• 14:49Speaker 01

  Take a crap? I haven't heard that in so long!

• 14:55Speaker 01

  Do you use that frequently?

• 14:57Speaker 02

  I guess, I don't know.

• 14:58Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  Once a day.

• 15:00Speaker 01

  Oh, I have not heard that in so long. Wait, so what season of Down to Earth are you guys on now?

• 15:05Speaker 02

  We, we, we're wrapped up, we've done two.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  And you're done?

• 15:08Speaker 02

  We're done with that franchise, like, Zach and I have talked about starting a, a new show, and I, I think we can start filming that next, next year.

• 15:17Speaker 01

  Okay, can I pitch something to you?

• 15:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's hear it.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  I don't like nature, at all, sorry. I, I mean, I respect it, like, deeply. But, um, my version of like, a vacation is like, the strongest wifi connection in a air-conditioned room, no matter what fucking temperature it is outside. So would you ever do a show where you found the best air-conditioned hotels across America and the world?

• 15:48Speaker 02

  This would never sell.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  Really?

• 15:52Speaker 02

  Um, let's see, how can we make it fun?

• 15:55Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 15:56Speaker 02

  The hotel, god, the hotel in Montauk, that's such good AC.

• 15:58Speaker 01

  Really?

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  What's the best AC you've ever did it?

• 16:03Speaker 02

  Ah, um.

• 16:07Speaker 02

  It has to be somewhere that's like humid.

• 16:08Speaker 01

  Cause I know mine.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  What, what's yours?

• 16:11Speaker 01

  My old apartment, when I was growing up in New York, we had this massive fucking AC in the living room. And I would just stand there on summer days and put my whole body in front of the AC and be like, wow. Life is beautiful.

• 16:25Speaker 02

  See, I'm a fan of like the small AC units in hotels. No, like the ones that are like in the corner that are all white and you don't know what any of the buttons do. But they like pump a huge fan at you. Like I like.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  What shape are they?

• 16:37Speaker 02

  They're those like white machines, I think, that are like, I don't know, they look like they're out of the 1920s. And they're always in like the corner of the room and they just pump AC out. Like I like that kind over the big central.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  Uh, I hate central AC.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's terrible.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  You wanna know what's diabolical?

• 16:54Speaker 02

  What?

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Central AC on an airplane.

• 16:56Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 16:57Speaker 01

  Might as well crash.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. Some of them have like the, some of them have like the phone or the white like steam come out like Delta has that.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  Well, Delta has personable AC. I don't know if that's the word, but you can turn your, there's three knobs for two people, which I respect. And you can turn the knobs as much as you need and they usually start once the, like, you know, I'm like in another life, Dylan.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Delta's pretty awesome.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  Are you a Delta boy?

• 17:21Speaker 02

  I've, I've been converted.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  I've been converted too. What's your status?

• 17:26Speaker 02

  Uh, right now I am platinum medallion.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Me too, and I'm about to be diamond.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  How? Like you're almost there?

• 17:33Speaker 01

  Like I have two more flights. Well, actually, one more flight.

• 17:37Speaker 02

  What, what do you get at diamond?

• 17:39Speaker 01

  I don't know. I don't know, but I'm really excited. Actually, when we were on set for Samsung together, the girl who was doing, I think it was like nails and stuff, was like, I am Delta Diamond. And sometimes they like pick me up from the plane when I land.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  See, so like, next time you're hard on yourself and ungrateful, just be like, I'm Delta Diamond. Like, I have nothing to be sad about.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  Honestly? I guess.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  It'll pick you up.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  What were you before Delta?

• 18:08Speaker 02

  United. And I've got the highest on that one.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  Oh, what's that? What's that about?

• 18:13Speaker 02

  It's called Platinum Premium, no, Premium, Premier Platinum.

• 18:17Speaker 01

  Okay, and what, why were you a United king?

• 18:20Speaker 02

  The most international flights, I'd say.

• 18:23Speaker 01

  You're fucking lying.

• 18:24Speaker 02

  I swear.

• 18:24Speaker 01

  United?

• 18:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, if you look up like most flight, flights of any airlines, United's number one. And they fly internationally like everywhere.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  Okay, so tell me why you switched to Delta?

• 18:34Speaker 02

  I didn't fully switch. I status matched and now I'm in the Delta as well, so I'm getting both status.

• 18:42Speaker 01

  Okay, have you ever been to the Delta One Lounge?

• 18:43Speaker 02

  That's why I switched. It's incredible.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  It's pretty life-changing, Derek.

• 18:47Speaker 02

  You know what I did on this last trip to Montauk was like, I went, so I went before and like got the meal at LAX. Then we landed.

• 18:56Speaker 01

  Like at the Delta One restaurant?

• 18:58Speaker 02

  Yes, at the Delta.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  What did you, what meal did you get?

• 18:59Speaker 02

  Sushi.

• 19:00Speaker 01

  And how was it?

• 19:01Speaker 02

  So good. It's so, such good sushi.

• 19:03Speaker 01

  What?

• 19:04Speaker 02

  Like, this is why this last year is so cool to me. Like, I, now, the fact that I know all this about first-class flights.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Right, I never, I never knew it either.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  Exactly. I've been like slumming it in the back for so long. This is like the best perk in the world.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Wait, so what's your age difference between you and Zach?

• 19:19Speaker 02

  Four and a half years.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  So...

• 19:22Speaker 02

  So there's, there's a few times.

• 19:24Speaker 01

  That's not big at all?

• 19:24Speaker 02

  No, no, like, we grew up together, but he was definitely like the, the older brother.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  So was it like? So, okay, so when you were in like, so what age did he do High School Musical?

• 19:36Speaker 02

  Oh, early, like, he was probably sixteen or seventeen.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  So you were twelve? So you showed up to school like, yeah, you know that movie you're watching?

• 19:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think I was probably a freshman in high school when High School Musical came out. Like, I remember watching it with a few of my friends, like, downstairs with my dad.

• 19:53Speaker 01

  And did any of you, like, anticipate?

• 19:56Speaker 02

  No, not at all. But like, the weirdest thing to say about it is like, I had no idea anything in the movie industry. Like, I knew my brother was gonna be on a Disney show, so it was so exciting to me. Like, to me, it was already my Super Bowl. The fact that it turned into something as big as it was, like, it was already that big to me. So like, I, and then as far as like my brother, like, I always looked up to him. Like, when I was twelve, he was sixteen with muscles and stuff, like, working out. So I'm always like, how do you work out? And like, he was teaching me that stuff. So like, I always looked up to him. So then when everyone else started looking up to him, I was like, of course, my big brother. So, that, that's kind of how it always felt. So I was, I was never surprised that he became what he wa- what he is.

• 20:40Speaker 01

  That's crazy. I love High School Musical. You know, I've never seen the third one?

• 20:44Speaker 02

  You haven't? The third one's awesome.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  I have this thing though where I always miss the third one in every movie series.

• 20:49Speaker 02

  Is it a thing that, like, you don't want it to end?

• 20:52Speaker 01

  Maybe, because I never finished, have you ever seen Friday Night Lights?

• 20:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  I've never seen the last episode of Friday Night Lights.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  I do the same thing. I get to the last episode and then I like, don't want it to end, I just don't watch it. Like, I did that with the Michael Jordan documentary. I did it with Swing, or, no, Stick, the one that just came out. Most series I don't watch the last.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  You really like sports, huh?

• 21:13Speaker 02

  I do.

• 21:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. What else do you watch?

• 21:16Speaker 02

  Um, I just finished Mobland, have you watched that? Do you li- do you like?

• 21:21Speaker 01

  I, well, when I had COVID in twenty twenty-one, I was addicted to the mafia. Like, addicted, like, I watched all this mafia stuff, like, I was talking like a wise guy, like, I was like, in it to win it.

• 21:32Speaker 02

  You start Mobland, it is so.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Scripted?

• 21:35Speaker 02

  Scripted, but not over the top. Like, my least favorite thing is when I, I always use Ozark as an example.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  I've never seen Ozark.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  Okay, well, don't.

• 21:46Speaker 02

  So I use this as a negative, like, season one of Ozark, I'm like, I'm excited, and I'm like, this is a good show. Pretty soon, like, second season, third season, it's like, I can see the writers being like, let's, like, alright, if, if, if the main character's in this position, this is what people will expect, this is what people won't expect, let's do this, which no one would ever expect.

• 22:08Speaker 01

  Love that.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  Super unrealistic, like, so it was like, it was just like, so unreali- unrealistic. And it feels like they're just like a bunch of writers thinking of the craziest thing that could happen. That's like when I fall off of shows, so I fell off of Ozark big time. Mobland is the same way, like, you can never predict what's gonna happen, but it feels realistic.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Ooh, okay, have you ever seen The Sopranos?

• 22:30Speaker 02

  No, I haven't.

• 22:31Speaker 01

  Seems like you would love it.

• 22:32Speaker 02

  I would.

• 22:33Speaker 01

  I've never seen it either. Have you ever seen Breaking Bad?

• 22:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Well, the best.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Great, incredible, but I could re-watch it, it's been...

• 22:40Speaker 01

  I, well, I'm re-watching Scandal right now, which I doubt you've seen.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, she nodded.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  Scandal will cha- talk about unrealistic, but it will, quite literally, like, I, when I watch Scandal, like, I'm like, I've never felt this way before about, like, I can't control, like, my feelings about the show, like, I like moan, I scream, I yell, like, I can't, like, I've never, like, I can't describe to you how amazing it is. It's seven seasons, it's a soap opera, essentially, about, um,

• 23:16Speaker 01

  you kinda just gotta watch.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  Who, who's the lead in it?

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Kerry Washington, Tony Goldwyn.

• 23:20Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  And Scott Foley.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  I, I, I'll, I'll watch it. I just finished Mobland in like two days, so I need something new.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Scand- oh my god, I'm gonna be sick thinking about it. Like, every single night I've been watching Scandal, and I just go to bed, and I'm like, I know she's, they've got me.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  They've got me. It's really that good, like, and I think, have you ever seen Goodfellas?

• 23:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:40Speaker 01

  Okay, well, that's the mafia show, movie I watched when I was sick.

• 23:43Speaker 02

  What, what's your, like, what's your genre of things to watch? Are you like a feel-good, or do you like, you want like anxiety right before bed?

• 23:50Speaker 01

  I just wanna like, be like, oh my god, I wasn't expecting that.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  Okay, watch Mobland, that's my pitch.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Or Ozark.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  No, Ozark's stupid.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  What?

• 23:58Speaker 02

  It's stupid.

• 23:59Speaker 01

  Said, no one ever, literally.

• 24:01Speaker 02

  It like, season one's good, that's, I'll give it that.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Okay, have you seen Weapons yet?

• 24:05Speaker 02

  No.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  Okay, well, the girl from Ocean's Weapons.

• 24:09Speaker 02

  I have a, I feel like you've listed like six that I haven't watched and I'm questioning myself.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  No, no, I just have a lot of time on my hands.

• 24:15Speaker 02

  I watched Escape from Dannemora. Did you watch that one?

• 24:18Speaker 01

  I know that existed. What is that?

• 24:19Speaker 02

  Did you watch Severance?

• 24:20Speaker 01

  Well, of course.

• 24:21Speaker 02

  Okay, so same director, it's Ben Stiller directed this Escape from Prison. It's like based on a true story.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Have you ever seen Prison Break?

• 24:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  I've never seen Prison Break. Maybe I should dive in.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  It was so good.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  Apparently, people really love it.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  The OG seasons, it fell off a little bit.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  That's what I've heard.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  The first two seasons are so fun.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  Okay, maybe I'll give it a shot. Dylan, what are you therapist about today?

• 24:44Speaker 02

  Hmm, like, what do I want to dive into?

• 24:48Speaker 01

  No, like, what are you angry about?

• 24:49Speaker 02

  What am I angry about? My back spasm.

• 24:51Speaker 01

  Still, it's still thrown out?

• 24:53Speaker 02

  It's like getting better, but yeah, I just went through this little phase of injuries. It's really been frustrating me.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  What other injuries?

• 25:01Speaker 02

  I got vertigo for the first time. Have you ever had vertigo?

• 25:05Speaker 01

  What is that? Because my dad says he has that and I just don't believe it.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  My mom says she gets it and it's one of those things that you don't believe. Like, I always try to, like, as soon as I show up to my mom's house, I'm like, hey, let's go for a walk. It's like such an annoying little like thing I do, but I always want to get her out and like, it's more fun for me to catch up with her while we're doing something active.

• 25:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  So like I show up, let's go for a walk and she's like, oh no, I have vertigo like right now. I don't want to. And it's like when you hear someone say that, you're just like, that sounds like an excuse. When I had vertigo, oh my god.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  What is that?

• 25:36Speaker 02

  The world feels like you're like about to fall over. Like, I couldn't look at my phone because it was, my phone was going like this. So like I was out walking Bowie. I'm walking down the hill and I was like, I'm gonna fall down. Like, it looked like I was about like, like on the edge of a cliff and I was just like swaying.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  And you can't go on your phone. So how do you fix that?

• 25:55Speaker 02

  It just went away, but it was so weird.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  So how long were you not able to like go on electronic?

• 25:59Speaker 02

  About a day and a half. I had so many messages that I was just like, tried to respond. I'm like, I don't care.

• 26:05Speaker 01

  Isn't that the best feeling? One time I was away for two weeks and I got two texts and I was like, I know people knew I was away, but I'm still really offended.

• 26:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that was like trainers.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Wait, you didn't get texts when you turn your phone on from traders?

• 26:21Speaker 02

  No, cuz we did because they announced the cast while we're out there. So we hadn't had our phone for a full week. They they announced the cast. So I opened my phone after not having it for a week. And then I was just flooded with messages. I was just like, oh, like that was an overload.

• 26:37Speaker 01

  It wasn't good feeling?

• 26:38Speaker 02

  No, I couldn't even look at the phone.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  I love an overload of messages. It's like on my birthday when I wake up.

• 26:47Speaker 02

  Do you remember like your first birthday that like you had social media that you got like a hundred or a thousand messages?

• 26:55Speaker 01

  You know, it was back in the day of Facebook. So I think it must have been like my freshman year and that was when everybody, I feel like, did you ever have a Facebook?

• 27:05Speaker 02

  I my freshman year, I started one.

• 27:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  And that was the year.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  So if people that are watching don't know, before Instagram stories, people used to write on your Facebook wall to wish you a happy birthday. And every, it was, oh my God, I honestly bring it fucking back. I miss it so much. It was the most, and I was just like, I would open my computer and I would click the little world symbol of all my notifications and see everybody that wrote on my wall. Also, my favorite thing to ever announce on Facebook was when I got into USC and I said USC class of 2022 and everybody commented.

• 27:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:41Speaker 01

  Cuz I never got many likes on my profile picture change. Do you remember your first time ever having social media with your birthday?

• 27:47Speaker 02

  No, that was it. It was my freshman year of college and it was like, all of a sudden I got like 300 people. Maybe, I don't know, maybe that was that many, but like all my new college friends were like, happy birthday. I was just like, what is this? Like, how do they all know? And it's like, it was such a crazy feeling.

• 28:04Speaker 01

  And I miss it. And you know what else I miss about Facebook? Events. Partyful, God love ya, it doesn't hit the same. It really does not hit the same. Facebook events were such a thing for me, like when I got invited to an event on Facebook and I clicked going maybe or no. Like, it really.

• 28:22Speaker 02

  It's a dopamine rush.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Not only that, it was also just like so much cleaner than a partyful. Like a partyful is like a little confusing, it's on my phone. Whereas Facebook was like, this is the event, this is the photo for said event, this is who's hosting the event. This is who's going, whether you like it or not, we're gonna tell you who's going. And these are the posts about the event.

• 28:44Speaker 02

  Does partyful not show you who said yes and tell you?

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can click it out. And yes, also yes.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's annoying. Like, show me who's going.

• 28:53Speaker 01

  If I'm invited, I wanna see, how am I supposed to know?

• 28:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:57Speaker 01

  God, I really do miss that about Facebook. But everything else I don't really care for. Facebook became like.

• 29:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, I honestly never used Facebook that much. I was.

• 29:04Speaker 01

  So you had three hundred people right on your wall for your birthday?

• 29:07Speaker 02

  I was MySpace, like.

• 29:08Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 29:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was MySpace.

• 29:11Speaker 01

  So what was that like about?

• 29:12Speaker 02

  Oh, MySpace was awesome.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  What was it like? How did you celebrate birthdays on MySpace?

• 29:16Speaker 02

  I don't remember that, but we had, you had a top ten, so you had to rank your top ten friends. And like, you would move them around. It was, it was a lot. And then you always had a song, like, whatever song was you, you put that on your profile and like, sometimes people would find like this awesome hidden song and put it on and they were like, oh, that kid's cool.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  So what was your song?

• 29:36Speaker 02

  Um, gosh, which one? I think, I always liked Afro beats and I think I probably had like an Afro beat one. Um, oh, one of them was, I'll have to double check. Oh, do you remember this song called like Waving Flags by?

• 29:51Speaker 01

  By, um, uh, something with a K?

• 29:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like, uh.

• 29:55Speaker 01

  Yes, I remember Waving Flag. It was like, yes, of course I remember.

• 29:58Speaker 02

  That was one of mine, I think. Um, but maybe it wasn't even that song, it was like another song by him and I thought it was so cool.

• 30:05Speaker 01

  Did you ever play like We as a kid?

• 30:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, I liked We, like the.

• 30:09Speaker 01

  Like Guitar Hero, what was your Guitar Hero song?

• 30:11Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  I was Maps.

• 30:13Speaker 02

  I honestly sucked at Guitar Hero. Were you good?

• 30:15Speaker 01

  No, of course not.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  I was medium level.

• 30:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was really bad, but I played Maps a lot.

• 30:20Speaker 02

  I don't even know what that is.

• 30:21Speaker 01

  Maps. They don't love you like I love you.

• 30:24Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  I did, I've, the best one, the best one I was at was Beatles Rock Band.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  I never had that. Rock Band? Oh my god.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  And it was, I was the drummer, like, I was like, damn, I'm actually good at something. I could do like expert level.

• 30:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 30:47Speaker 02

  Drumming the Beatles.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  Did you ever play any like, like world games online, like Pop Tro- oh my, wow, okay, you're older than me. Um, so no Moshi Monsters, no Webkins, no Pop Tropica. So what, like Club Penguin, ever?

• 31:02Speaker 02

  Are these computer games, like?

• 31:03Speaker 01

  Whoa, yeah.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  Um, no.

• 31:07Speaker 01

  What were your computer games?

• 31:08Speaker 02

  You would laugh at the ones we played, like.

• 31:09Speaker 01

  What, like Oregon Trail, where they all like died?

• 31:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, you just did, no, they, they were like, they're, I wish I could look this up, because this is, it's a deep cut. But there was one that you had a little icon. It was called like, who, who, who, whovles or something? Who, weevil? I don't, I, I gotta look it up. Well, I'll follow up with this. But it was literally like a shitty little icon, and then you could go like, tap around the world. It was one of the worst games I've ever seen, but everybody played.

• 31:37Speaker 01

  Fun for you at the time?

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, because it was like, computers, I saw like a mouse, and was like using my mouse and clicking around.

• 31:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 31:43Speaker 02

  You could do some like bad stuff in the game.

• 31:45Speaker 01

  So question, when, okay, so what year were you a freshman in high school? Tw- two thousand seven, two thousand eight?

• 31:52Speaker 02

  Tw- no, two thousand eleven would have been my freshman year.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  Okay, so when you were at a party and people were playing music, how did they play music? Like, was it through an iPod? Or a phone?

• 32:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably, probably, actually, iPod, yeah, iPod or phone by then, I think. But like, I didn't have an iPhone back then. It was like, yeah, I had a random Samsung.

• 32:14Speaker 01

  Oh, you did?

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  It's come full circle.

• 32:21Speaker 01

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• 34:05Speaker 01

  So when did you start going to parties?

• 34:07Speaker 02

  Oh, okay. So wait, so should I answer my high school freshman year?

• 34:12Speaker 01

  What was your high school freshman?

• 34:13Speaker 02

  My high school freshman year would have been 2006.

• 34:18Speaker 01

  What?

• 34:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, because I graduated 2010.

• 34:21Speaker 01

  Okay, so when you went to parties in high school, what did you listen to music on? iPods?

• 34:26Speaker 02

  God, I didn't get my first iPod and it wasn't an iPod. It was a Rio. And it probably held like 300 songs and that was probably my sophomore year of high school.

• 34:36Speaker 01

  But is that what you used to play music at parties?

• 34:40Speaker 01

  So what was it? Just like the radio?

• 34:41Speaker 02

  iPods. Damn, you're aging me.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Well, I'm just curious.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, it probably would have been kind of like a computer. I think it would have been like a computer with a stereo setup.

• 34:52Speaker 01

  So who, you can't even hear that?

• 34:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Right?

• 34:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was a long time ago. Luckily, I.

• 35:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know.

• 35:05Speaker 01

  What was your favorite year of high school and what was your favorite year of college?

• 35:09Speaker 02

  Favorite year of of high school was definitely my senior year. I didn't want it to end. Like, it was incredible.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  You didn't want high school to end?

• 35:18Speaker 02

  No, I loved it. I like, I'm still friends with all those friends. I had like four periods of class. And I pretty much like, like I made the tennis team. And I was like, you know what? Like, I don't want to play tennis. I just want to like hang out with my friends. And it was like the year that I finally like stopped playing. I was still playing soccer, but I was like, I want to take this time to just like hang with my friends as much as possible. So that year was special. Then we all went to college and stuff, so.

• 35:47Speaker 01

  So like, what would you do every day that was so special and fun?

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Uh, honestly, just hang out. Like, I, my friends are awesome. Like, my two closest friends are these crazy twins and and we would literally just like get into nature and do crazy things. And like, they were always dragging me along. So we were always like road tripping to a random river to cliff jump or like we'd go to Death Valley just because we heard it was hot and like want to go hike. Yeah, like, so we were always either just at someone's house playing video games or like out on a road trip.

• 36:17Speaker 01

  Let me ask you. You wanted to go to Death Valley because you heard it was hot.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  You get to Death Valley. What do you do?

• 36:23Speaker 02

  It was so hot.

• 36:26Speaker 02

  We went on such a hot day.

• 36:27Speaker 01

  So, but what do you do? Like, you just like, that's what I always ask about nature.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  So.

• 36:32Speaker 01

  Like, you just look around, okay, I'm here.

• 36:33Speaker 02

  So the first thing we did was we went to the thermometer that they have, which is like, shows you how hot it was. And it was like the hottest day they've had in like three years. It was like a hundred and twenty or something.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  So you look at the thermometer, cool.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, so then we ended up. We went to like the local place to like see what's around. They said there was a water hole that you could go and jump into, but you had to hike like two miles. So we were all super nervous because we're like, we don't know the trail, we need our water on us. And we ended up finding this water, water hole, jumped in. Uh, then we had to drive out and there's a cool dune that we stopped by that we've all ran down the dune.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  And are you like yay?

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  I do remember though that uh, the car was overheating because it was so hot.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  Uh, yeah.

• 37:22Speaker 02

  And this is like our first car, so they're not.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  So no AC.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  You know, I see, but I had, I was, I was pissed that, no, we did have AC, but it was like, it wasn't working. Your car was overheating, like some red light popped up. So I was pissed that I had to drive again and I was like, I don't want to drive. My friends were like, dude, you, it's your turn, blah, blah, blah. So then the.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  But you said drive again.

• 37:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, we like took turns, so like the other people are sleeping in the back.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 37:47Speaker 02

  I'm driving and the, the light turns on, so I was like, guys, we can't use the AC. So I, I, I put the child lock on the door, so we were just baking in the car, like no AC baking. And they're all yelling at me, but I was being a petty, like, I was like, no, we can't use AC. I don't know. It was like, it was bad, but we're all sweating in a car, dying together.

• 38:09Speaker 02

  That's the kind of.

• 38:09Speaker 01

  Wait, I know. So what was the point of the child lock? Just to torture them?

• 38:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, to torture them because it's for making me drive.

• 38:15Speaker 01

  Torturing yourself too?

• 38:17Speaker 02

  It was, my shirt was off, I'm sweating in the front seat, it was bad.

• 38:20Speaker 01

  How does it feel to be able to take your shirt off and be like, I look good?

• 38:25Speaker 01

  How does that feel for you? Cause like when I take my shirt off, I'm like, oh, like I'm fidgeting with my boobs, like I like feeling up on myself. I'm like, oh, like I don't like, I went to a watering hole, speaking of the other day in Oregon and I was like.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  See, you get, you understand it.

• 38:40Speaker 01

  No, I don't. I was sitting there like, but like I, I was like fidgeting with my breasts and like, and I was like, and I was with my friend who's like ripped. And I was like, what does that feel like? Are you just like, yeah?

• 38:50Speaker 02

  I, I think, I don't think about it that way. I don't think like, oh, I look good right now, but I think about how good it feels. Like I love being shirtless. It's such a good feeling. Like you feel the sun on you. I'm no longer constricted by my sleeves. It's such a good feeling. So I, I'm not really thinking about what I look like. I'm more like, as soon as I get the chance, I'm like, oh, freedom, and I just take it off.

• 39:13Speaker 01

  I gotta get back to the gym. Like, wow, can you imagine? Right? Like, can you imagine just being like shirt off, my life?

• 39:26Speaker 01

  Yay, sun on my body and I look good. And I know you're thinking about that you look good. Don't play with me.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  Most of the times I'm like disheveled, walking, broody, but I'm still shirtless, like enjoying enjoying life.

• 39:41Speaker 01

  Okay, one day that will be me.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  It will.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Maybe without a dog, but once.

• 39:45Speaker 02

  We can hold ourselves accountable, just like the journal, like, did you work out today? And we'll do the date.

• 39:49Speaker 01

  Obsessed. I love that energy from you.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  All right, let's do it.

• 39:54Speaker 01

  How much water do you drink a day?

• 39:56Speaker 02

  So much. I love these things.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  I drink them all day.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  Really?

• 40:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like a little like.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  You don't get bored of the water?

• 40:04Speaker 02

  Oh, I know. I put I put stuff in it. Like, I do like BCAAs or ECAs.

• 40:10Speaker 01

  Ooh, that sounds like cancerous.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  No, it's good. It's like it's like building blocks of protein. But it but it makes it taste good and then I can drink it all day.

• 40:19Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:20Speaker 02

  If it was water, I'd get so sick of it.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  That's what I'm saying.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:23Speaker 01

  So you ever have like an Ultima?

• 40:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, those are good. The the hydration packs?

• 40:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, those are good.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  And you put that in the whole thing?

• 40:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll put it in the whole thing.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  Just one packet for that whole thing?

• 40:33Speaker 02

  I'd probably mix it with some BCAAs.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  I'll send you the link.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Okay, do you want to get into the tell me what's wrongs?

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Oh, wait, you didn't say favorite year. So going back to favorite year of high school.

• 40:49Speaker 01

  Now you're holding me accountable.

• 40:50Speaker 02

  And favorite year of college. What was your peak of both of those?

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Okay, well, did you tell? Well, you didn't tell me your favorite year of college.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  No, I haven't. My favorite year was again, the last one.

• 41:01Speaker 01

  Okay, so my favorite year of high school was either when it ended or probably my sophomore year. I had a lot of fun my sophomore year. It's when I started drinking for the first time. When I started smoking weed. Like, I was like, I am that girl. I got my braces off. Like, I was like.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  You smoked weed your sophomore year of high school?

• 41:21Speaker 01

  Yes, I got my first fake ID, like.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  Whoa, in high school, you got a fake ID?

• 41:26Speaker 01

  I was fifteen.

• 41:27Speaker 02

  Did it work?

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, it worked at this one place around the I don't want to like dox the place if other people are still going there. But it was a Japanese restaurant and one time that summer going into, I want to say it was my junior year. So I just started drinking that year. My parents were like, okay, like, we're kind of chill with it. I went to this place and I got three Long Island iced teas. And I got super drunk and broke my wrist.

• 41:55Speaker 02

  You started early.

• 41:57Speaker 01

  Right?

• 41:57Speaker 02

  I was doing all that stuff in college.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  I thought I started late.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  No, I was doing that stuff in college.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  Oh, wow.

• 42:02Speaker 02

  Like, I was still afraid my fake ID wouldn't work in college.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Well, you gotta make sure it scans.

• 42:06Speaker 02

  It did scan.

• 42:07Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  But I never tried it like at bars. Like, I was like, I had like a CVS that I went to to get all the alcohol for the dorm and stuff like that, but I wouldn't.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  You used your ID at CVS?

• 42:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:17Speaker 01

  Okay, so, no, that's bold. CVS is like strict about IDs. We would have certain places, we would go and pick up our stuff and they would know, but it like was never that serious and like, I used my fake ID mostly to like, cause restaurants in New York, okay, so the nicer you go, the less they care about how old you are because they wanna make you feel comfortable, is what I was always told. So if I ever saved up enough money and we went out to a nice restaurant, they would be super chill about it, but then like, I don't know, I've only got my ID taken like twice.

• 42:48Speaker 02

  Only twice? So you had three of them?

• 42:50Speaker 01

  I had one, two, four. I had four IDs.

• 42:52Speaker 02

  Holy shit.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  Well, I had two sets of them, but four, yes. And, um, I, I remember, um, when did I, I, I would use it mostly to buy like, in high school, I eventually just started using it to buy like jewel pods. Cause that was like back in the day when like jewels were really like new and awesome.

• 43:11Speaker 02

  Did you have to be eighteen to buy them?

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Yes, but that's when they had mint and mango and like, I know, cause you're like super in shape and healthy that you never got down like that with them, but like, they were really important to the culture and to me personally and like they looked like a hard drive and like back in the day like teachers didn't use to catch on, they had no idea. So like, you could run to the bathroom at school and just jewel and like literally there was nothing to tell anybody that you were doing it. It honestly, maybe senior year was my favorite year of high school. Because that was so fun. I'd be like, I want jewel and I would go to the bathroom and jewel and I'd be like, but I'm also in high school. Like, you know what I mean?

• 43:47Speaker 02

  How often were you running to the bathroom?

• 43:49Speaker 01

  All the time. I, I have. I would practice like, I would, okay, I'm like not judging myself because I was seventeen, eighteen at the time. But I would practice like my, my, my vape ghost hits.

• 44:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  And so like.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  Don't you have to hold it, hold it in?

• 44:03Speaker 01

  You breathe it out a little and then you breathe it in. And so I would go to the bathroom and like practice it. And I have so many videos on my phone of me doing it. And there was the bathroom. Downstairs in the basement of my high school had like the best air circulation. So like, that's where I would get the best hits. And like one time I dropped my jewel on the ground and a teacher picked it up for me and was like, here you go. Because they had no idea.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 44:23Speaker 01

  And I was like, huh. You know?

• 44:25Speaker 02

  When I was in high school, jewels weren't a thing yet, like.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  It was just cigarettes?

• 44:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, weed. But people would try to get away with smoking weed indoors and they would always get caught.

• 44:33Speaker 01

  Well, that feels.

• 44:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  Just unlikely to work.

• 44:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was.

• 44:38Speaker 01

  Okay, so and my favorite year of college, freshman year.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  Really?

• 44:42Speaker 01

  It was, the first half was miserable and the second half was just.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  I could, I could.

• 44:50Speaker 01

  I went out, I used to go out, I feel like I've said this a million times, Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, sometimes Sunday. And it was just the most fun I've ever had in my life.

• 44:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:58Speaker 01

  And then honestly, senior year was really fun too. But I think I maybe had an alcohol problem then because I was blacking out all the time.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  So I didn't have a senior year. I graduated college in three, but my third year was my senior year and that, that was awesome because it was again, I had like no classes. I was like, to like, I needed to go to school. So I had like, maybe two real classes a quarter. And then I would did bull riding, welding, bowling.

• 45:26Speaker 01

  Hold on.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  I did like fun stuff.

• 45:29Speaker 01

  Bull riding?

• 45:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, bull, I was in the rodeo. It was so like, yeah, it was so fun.

• 45:35Speaker 01

  Do you have videos?

• 45:36Speaker 02

  I have one. It was shot on like a potato phone, but it's sick. It's like someone from the audience got it. I had like a, a five second ride on like a, a steer.

• 45:46Speaker 01

  And you fall?

• 45:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, I fall. And I, I won the first day. So I thought I got the belt buckle, but then someone beat me the second day.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Hole right in. Where'd you go to college again?

• 45:56Speaker 02

  Cal Poly, Slow.

• 45:57Speaker 01

  Okay. I did not know that was an elective offered.

• 46:02Speaker 02

  It was probably only at my college, a few others.

• 46:04Speaker 01

  I think maybe I enjoyed actually my senior year the most because I was working at the time, so I had money to spend.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  And like I never had money like that to spend before. So like I could go out to dinners. I could uh like treat myself to like, I could buy drinks that I wouldn't like, I used to like bamboozle my friends to buy me drinks at a bar because I like I wouldn't have enough money to do so. And I could finally like buy my own drinks at the bar. Like I could like pay for like stuff. Like it was nice. Like I had my own money.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  Well, here's a question, because I I've noticed some of the younger generation doesn't like, it wasn't a big deal for them to get their license. Is, was that you? Like, did, did you get your license earlier or were you just like, eh, I don't need it?

• 46:43Speaker 02

  Did you not get your license?

• 46:46Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I do not understand you. Like I, literally like you're talking about best moments. The day I got my license was like freedom.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  I don't know how to drive.

• 46:56Speaker 02

  You do not have a license now? Get out of here. You Uber everywhere? Yeah, out of here.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Three to four times a day.

• 47:08Speaker 02

  No way.

• 47:09Speaker 01

  Yes, and I know the drivers by name. They always come, hey, hey.

• 47:12Speaker 02

  I do not understand you. Like I.

• 47:14Speaker 01

  I can't, I'm, are you, can you teach me how to drive?

• 47:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. I, I, we'll get a stick shift for you.

• 47:20Speaker 01

  No.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  So you can't text and drive.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  So what car do you have now?

• 47:24Speaker 02

  I have a Toyota, a four owner.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Okay, is that stick shift?

• 47:29Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  So can I learn how to drive in your Toyota?

• 47:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, it would actually be pretty easy. It's got like auto steering.

• 47:35Speaker 01

  Okay, so where do we start driving?

• 47:36Speaker 02

  We could do it right now.

• 47:38Speaker 01

  Don't play with me.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  I also have my big, I have my big Sprinter Ram with me right now.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  Wait, where would, but where would you ta, like where would, we like, would we have to go to a parking lot or what would we do?

• 47:47Speaker 02

  Is this really truly like your first time driving?

• 47:49Speaker 01

  I drove around a parking lot once.

• 47:51Speaker 02

  Oh my God, we got it. Let's, let's like make a day of this. Like I.

• 47:55Speaker 01

  Should we actually?

• 47:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll, I'll, and we can like, train you up like two sessions and then take you to the DMV and see what happens.

• 48:01Speaker 01

  Okay, I'm, I'm game.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  I'm so down for this.

• 48:04Speaker 01

  Are you really?

• 48:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:04Speaker 01

  Are you around 12 August?

• 48:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  Okay, me too.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  Dancing with the stars, we'll do it during that.

• 48:09Speaker 01

  We didn't even talk about D W T S.

• 48:16Speaker 01

  So

• 48:20Speaker 01

  times I speak and I want to kill myself.

• 48:23Speaker 02

  We've had, we've had too much to catch up on.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  But we have, this is so lovely. And by the way, it's not ending anytime soon. So don't get, don't get too comfortable leaving. Um, so tell me about Dancing with the Stars. How excited are you? Are you a dancer by nature? What's the vibe?

• 48:38Speaker 02

  I am so not a dancer by nature. I've, I've never performed and I've never danced in public. Like maybe dance in public at like a bar being goofy. I've never like

• 48:48Speaker 01

  danced at a bar being goofy?

• 48:50Speaker 02

  I love dancing, but it takes a lot for me to do it. Like I've, I

• 48:54Speaker 01

  To be honest, I can't imagine you dancing.

• 48:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's true. It's true. Like I, I can do it at a wedding and when I'm like lit or something. I'm like, I stopped caring what people think about me. Like that's, I love that feeling. I wish I could do it more. So like, when this opportunity came, I'm like, maybe like, maybe this'll make me dance more, which would make me happier. Like I, that's what I'm excited to take out of this is like, I love learning new things. I'm gonna love learning dancing, but I've never, never learned.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  I'm so excited for you. I can't wait to see it.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  I, I think, I, I think, we'll, we'll see. I'm, I'm excited. I have no idea how my rhythm is. I have no idea anything.

• 49:34Speaker 01

  When do you start practicing?

• 49:35Speaker 02

  Like soon, like probably, I think it's getting announced on

• 49:40Speaker 01

  Well, today.

• 49:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, today. And, uh, yeah, so soon, like two weeks.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Two weeks?

• 49:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Okay. And so did it take convincing for you to do this? Or were you just like, yeah, let's do it?

• 49:50Speaker 02

  Yes, I did. I did have to get convinced. I was, I had a dinner with the casting department and they told me about it and it was, the way they spoke about this show was really, it was like, it's like their baby and they like really love this show. They say that it's like, I don't, you could sell it, when you see someone that's passionate about something, it makes you wanna be involved. And like, everyone that's been on the show says it's one of those memories they'll cherish their whole life. So it's like, they did a really damn good job of selling it to me.

• 50:21Speaker 01

  Wasn't Gabby on it?

• 50:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:23Speaker 01

  Did you talk to her about it?

• 50:24Speaker 02

  I, I want to talk to her more, but I, when we were in Traitors, I was talking to her about it. Cause all, like, like, three of the girls on the cast all were Dancing with Stars. Like, Chriselle did it, um, yeah, Nikki did it.

• 50:39Speaker 01

  Okay, so, but you were saying, like, you, you don't, like, it takes you a while to dance cause you don't like what people, like, you are conscious of what people think of you.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, and-

• 50:49Speaker 01

  Do you have anxiety?

• 50:50Speaker 02

  Uh, no, I just, I, I think it's because my whole life, like, Zach's been famous. I never wanted to, like, mess up his career and stuff like that. So I think that's something that, like, I've been hyper aware of how I present myself and stuff like that from a young age. So then-

• 51:08Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 51:09Speaker 02

  I think maybe that's part of it. And then, also, it's like, I love learning sports, but I've never learned dance. So like, if you've never learned tennis, you're not gonna go play tennis with a bunch of people. So that's kinda how I've always thought about dance. It's like, I don't, I don't know how to dance. I, I don't wanna jump into something I don't know how to do, really.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 51:29Speaker 02

  Does that make sense?

• 51:29Speaker 01

  But you are.

• 51:30Speaker 02

  I am, but hopefully I'll learn, so-

• 51:32Speaker 01

  I'm so excited for you.

• 51:34Speaker 02

  I, I, I am too.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  I feel like you'll make it far.

• 51:36Speaker 02

  I, we can hope.

• 51:39Speaker 01

  So you ready again to the Tell Me What's Wrong's?

• 51:40Speaker 02

  Let's do it.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  You guys submitted these Tell Me What's Wrong's, and they are Bumble themed and sponsored by Bumble. They are all about dating life, so thank you, Bumble, for sponsoring these Tell Me What's Wrong's.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  My long-distance boyfriend, who I low-key didn't like, dumped me two weeks ago, and I haven't cried at all. Good for you. I downloaded Bumble the next day, went on a date last night, and it was the best date I've ever been on in my life. Am I the worst person ever for not feeling sad about the breakup at all and feeling totally fine with moving on ASAP?

• 52:10Speaker 02

  Not at all. Good for her.

• 52:13Speaker 02

  Right? She was in a relationship.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, I feel like it's fine.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, she broke up, didn't feel, didn't feel anything when she broke up. That's a good sign you didn't really like the relationship.

• 52:21Speaker 01

  When's the last time you cried?

• 52:23Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 52:27Speaker 02

  I've been on a little good stretch, probably a month or so.

• 52:32Speaker 01

  Okay, so I like cried for the first time recently, like real, like, well, I wasn't like sobbing, but I was like, like crying, like, when my friends left. But the last time I like sobbed, cried uncontrollable, guess how long?

• 52:45Speaker 02

  A year?

• 52:47Speaker 01

  2019.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  You, wow, you like saved the date?

• 52:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, cuz I remember.

• 52:51Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 52:52Speaker 01

  It's outside, it's outside of Macaroni Republic.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  What happened?

• 52:56Speaker 01

  I have a bunch of different macaronis. Um, basically, this guy I had a crush on was he was with someone else and I was really fucked up, like beyond words fucked up and I was just like, sobbing. And then I'll say, ooh, that felt good and I haven't done it since.

• 53:12Speaker 02

  It does feel incredible.

• 53:13Speaker 01

  Right? You cried a month ago?

• 53:15Speaker 02

  I don't know. Now, now I think about it, I,

• 53:17Speaker 01

  Yes, you know.

• 53:18Speaker 02

  I know, I, cuz I've, I've been pretty happy this year. It's been a good year.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  What's your star sign?

• 53:25Speaker 02

  I'm a February, Aquarius.

• 53:27Speaker 01

  Okay, so you're part of your.

• 53:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, Aquarius, Aquarius is like the best sign by far. I love it. It is.

• 53:33Speaker 01

  Why do you say that? Cuz you're one?

• 53:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, they don't like you. I swear, like, everyone's like, oh, you're a Sagittarius or a Pisces. You gotta be careful. It's like,

• 53:41Speaker 01

  I get Pisces energy from you.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Really? Well, I'm a Pisces moon.

• 53:47Speaker 01

  And I literally feel so vindicated right now, but continue.

• 53:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm an Aquarius, but like every time you're in Aquarius, it's like, oh, you're like, super independent. You're, you're very intellectual. It's like all these like good things. It's like, oh, you're loyal. It's like, I swear, all Aquarius stuff is positive.

• 54:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've never really met an Aquarius and I'm like,

• 54:06Speaker 01

  Have you ever been in a long distance relationship, speaking back to this girl's question?

• 54:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:09Speaker 01

  You have?

• 54:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, was she, so she was in a long distance-

• 54:12Speaker 01

  And she hated it, she hated him?

• 54:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, she did. Uh, long distance is very tough. Uh, I was in one for a long time.

• 54:19Speaker 01

  So how do you make long distance work, when you were, cause you're still with the person that you were in long distance with?

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, so the, the best part of a long distance relationship is when you do see each other, it's like, you can, like, it's like a date night. Like, if you, let's say you're living with someone, you might not have a date night for months. Because it's like, you, you're living with them, and it's like, so casual and normal, you see them every day. When you're in a long-term relationship, or a long distance, you see them once a month, so it's like, that month, you're like, alright, we're going to the farmer's market, we're gonna go hike, we're gonna go out to dinner, and you like, plan the day.

• 54:48Speaker 01

  You and the outdoors. Like, I can't. What about, yeah, we'll watch TV. We'll lay in bed and scroll.

• 54:56Speaker 02

  You got, you got two nights, you gotta make it up. Like, you gotta make the most of it.

• 54:59Speaker 01

  And-

• 55:00Speaker 02

  But, I, I, like, for how hard a long distance relationship is, it's like, there's some awesome parts of it.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  Okay, let me ask you something. If you couldn't do these outdoors activity, if, whoa, if you couldn't do these outdoor activities with, like, not shirtless, like, you had to wear a shirt, would you enjoy them as much?

• 55:20Speaker 02

  No, absolutely not.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  Exactly. Exactly.

• 55:25Speaker 02

  That's the best part of being outdoors, is if you're in a remote hike, no one's gonna be judging you. Like, you have your shirt off, no one will think twice about it. You're gonna see six people.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  I love how you think about that. Um, I judge me.

• 55:40Speaker 01

  So this guy and I had a four-month-long situationship, we just ended things, and this is the most a breakup has ever hurt me, even though we never dated. How do I get over him? Have you ever had a situationship?

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Is that a situationship, or a, or a, they were in a relationship and they broke up?

• 55:54Speaker 01

  No, they were in a situationship for four months.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Okay. They were in a situationship-

• 55:58Speaker 01

  Like, they were never, like, we're dating?

• 55:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, so it's, even if it's a situationship, it sounds like they were emotionally involved. So then, yeah, it's totally normal to feel like shit after a four-month situationship.

• 56:10Speaker 01

  Okay, have you ever broken up with someone before?

• 56:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:13Speaker 01

  Have you ever been broken up with, like, situationship, or whatever?

• 56:16Speaker 02

  Um, no, I think I, it was probably mutual, or it was me. But yeah, like, it sucks. That, that's a low point, when you're, when you're newly single, like, I feel for that person.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Have you ever ghosted someone?

• 56:30Speaker 02

  No, I don't think I would do that.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  Okay. I'm 23 and I've never had a boyfriend. I feel like that's a red flag and I'm not sure what to do. I'm talking to this guy and it's getting a little serious and I'm scared I'm just a walking red flag if I don't have as much experience as him.

• 56:44Speaker 02

  Oh, that's cute.

• 56:45Speaker 01

  I know, I don't think that's a red flag at all.

• 56:46Speaker 02

  It's not a red flag at all, it's a green flag.

• 56:49Speaker 01

  I've never had a boyfriend and everybody who watches this knows that because I talk about it every episode, but you're not alone, okay?

• 56:57Speaker 02

  You've just been in like a year-long situationship?

• 57:00Speaker 01

  Not even that, Dylan. I think I have attachment problems.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was talking to this with my agent the other day. I think, I think like some people have issues like

• 57:12Speaker 02

  being vulnerable with, with new people.

• 57:14Speaker 01

  I, I can't be vulnerable at all with anyone.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:16Speaker 01

  I can be vulnerable online because it's like, I can like post it and put my phone down.

• 57:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, it's tou- it's very tough. I think that's, when you really get to know someone, that's like the best part of a relationship is they understand you. You can, you're like, can be full of yourself, but that's so hard to find in your middle year, or middle age.

• 57:35Speaker 01

  The most vulnerable I've, I can be is like when I'm speaking about how anxious I am.

• 57:41Speaker 02

  What's your sign?

• 57:42Speaker 01

  What guess?

• 57:45Speaker 02

  Leo?

• 57:47Speaker 01

  No. Why you guess Leo?

• 57:51Speaker 02

  It's a one to 12 chance. Are you Pisces?

• 57:55Speaker 01

  No.

• 57:56Speaker 02

  No, okay, let me, let me actually try to guess.

• 57:58Speaker 01

  So you have one more guess?

• 57:59Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  I feel like you don't get more than three.

• 58:02Speaker 02

  Let's go with

• 58:08Speaker 02

  Sagittarius, Aries.

• 58:12Speaker 01

  Scorpio.

• 58:12Speaker 02

  Scorpio.

• 58:14Speaker 01

  Gemini rising, Gemini moon.

• 58:16Speaker 02

  I, I wish I knew what all that meant.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  What's your rising? You know you're a Pisces moon.

• 58:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm a Pisces moon. How do you know the, the, the rising?

• 58:23Speaker 01

  Time, same as moon.

• 58:25Speaker 02

  I thought that had to do with the moon. So I'm, all I know is, all I know is Aquarius and Pisces.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  You gotta figure out what your rising is. I would guess that you're like a Pisces rising too.

• 58:35Speaker 02

  It could be.

• 58:36Speaker 01

  Or like a Libra rising. Don't you get so Libra vibes from him?

• 58:40Speaker 02

  I was a C-section baby though, does that matter?

• 58:43Speaker 01

  No.

• 58:43Speaker 02

  No?

• 58:44Speaker 01

  Why would that matter with your?

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm so sorry. I'm such a bitch.

• 58:50Speaker 02

  Because it is like, it's, it's, yeah, it's like I gotta choose my time, like my rising.

• 58:55Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Right? So it's not even.

• 58:59Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry for my initial dismay. I was really, I was really just confused as to how it would change.

• 59:05Speaker 02

  You know what a C-section is, right?

• 59:06Speaker 01

  No, I know what a C-section is. You were a C-section, baby?

• 59:09Speaker 02

  I was.

• 59:10Speaker 01

  Do you know like what, like what's the vibe of that?

• 59:12Speaker 02

  Um, my mom has a scar from me. Um.

• 59:17Speaker 01

  Did she ever like talk about it?

• 59:19Speaker 02

  No, I think it was pretty chill.

• 59:21Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 59:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, but yeah, I don't have any of the stories. I got stuck halfway out or anything.

• 59:26Speaker 01

  I went down the birth canal and then I swam back up. So my mom was in labor with me for forty-eight hours.

• 59:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  I mean, like, is that just not so telling?

• 59:35Speaker 02

  That's tough.

• 59:36Speaker 01

  Like, I don't want to do it.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  I've been single for so long that heartbreak songs literally leave my mind blank. Like, my Laura has fucking expired. I'm sick. Help. I mean,

• 59:51Speaker 01

  I've also been single forever and the only thing that I find to be helpful is getting on a dating app like Bumble.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, I think that's great.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  What music are you listening to right now?

• 1:00:03Speaker 02

  Um, still, I still do. Like, Burna Boy is probably my favorite. I'm all over the place. Like, I like Harry Styles and that style.

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  A lot of rap and like UK rap. Then I also just love like guitar and country, like acoustic, good vocals. Like, I love all that stuff.

• 1:00:21Speaker 01

  I like country, but only when a girl sings it.

• 1:00:24Speaker 02

  It depends on the girl.

• 1:00:26Speaker 01

  You listen to Megan Maroney?

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  Gotta get into Megan Maroney.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  It's one of those ones where I know her songs, but I don't listen.

• 1:00:32Speaker 01

  Tennessee, or Tennessee Orange?

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  I know Tennessee Whiskey. That's Chris Stapleton.

• 1:00:38Speaker 01

  Well, yeah. Well, I didn't know that, actually. I don't know why I said, well, yes. Well, Dylan, what did we learn today?

• 1:00:44Speaker 02

  We learned that you don't have a license, which is probably the most atrocious thing.

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  I knew you were gonna say that, by the way. And by the way, I knew you were gonna say that.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  But that's, it's great because now we have something to do. Like, we're gonna.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Do you actually want to teach me how to drive?

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  I actually do.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Don't mess around.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  And we'll record it so people can see this because it's gonna be ridiculous.

• 1:00:57Speaker 01

  Wait, I'm actually down. I'm here all of August, just like you are, because I remember you said that you were.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:01:01Speaker 01

  Well, I learned that. What did I learn? You love nature.

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  I do.

• 1:01:08Speaker 01

  A lot, but I guess I already knew that. Well, Dylan, thanks for coming on.

• 1:01:12Speaker 02

  Thank you so much for having me.

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  Love you.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  Love you.

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  Okay, wait, wait, wait. Do you want to give a little "bye pussies"?

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, which camera? All right, tell me when.

• 1:01:21Speaker 01

  Go.

• 1:01:22Speaker 02

  Bye pussies.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

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