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0:40 Speaker 01 Surprise pussies, welcome back to Therapists. Okay, I've never done an intro like this before, but I have to because I forgot to do it at home. And I'm in New York visiting Peyton and Julia. I saw Tate this week, it was amazing. So today, Sunday, I'm seeing Gaga, I'm so excited. But on today's episode, it is Brett's birthday special. We had so much fun filming. We literally just talked about Taylor Swift for an hour. It was literally so fun. Filming with my friends is always just like the most fun and the best. And I just, I, I, I hope you guys enjoy the episode. I don't know what to say, I feel so awkward doing an intro like this, I've never done it before, but
1:17 Speaker 01 I, I don't really know. Just admit it, tell me what's wrong, go to passthatpuss.com and leave a name and number if you're feeling fancy. Okay, enjoy the episode, love you pussies.
1:36 Speaker 02 Hey!
1:36 Speaker 01 Hey!
1:43 Speaker 02 I didn't even know they were here!
1:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, how cute!
1:46 Speaker 02 Oh my god, Jay!
1:47 Speaker 01 How cute!
1:48 Speaker 02 That is so cute, oh I love you!
1:51 Speaker 01 Vinnie and Nolan did it!
1:53 Speaker 02 Thank you, Vinnie and Nolan! Of course, happy birthday! Oh my god, thanks!
1:59 Speaker 01 Are we ready to go?
2:00 Speaker 02 Wow!
2:01 Speaker 01 Happy birthday.
2:03 Speaker 03 Thanks.
2:04 Speaker 01 Are you so excited to be 25?
2:06 Speaker 03 Like, I guess. Yeah, but it, I feel like 25 is like the mid twenties.
2:12 Speaker 01 I know. Do you feel old?
2:13 Speaker 03 I feel old. I mean, you're almost 26.
2:16 Speaker 01 Shut up. Is Max 26?
2:19 Speaker 03 Yeah, and he's almost 27. He turns 27 before you turn 26.
2:24 Speaker 01 October 17th. Yeah, I know. Libra.
2:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
2:28 Speaker 01 We have a lot to talk about.
2:29 Speaker 03 So much.
2:30 Speaker 01 Number one, do you think I'm sick or dehydrated?
2:36 Speaker 03 I don't know. Like, how tired are you?
2:39 Speaker 01 Can you, can't you hear it in my voice?
2:41 Speaker 03 I can slightly hear it, yeah. But I haven't wanted to freak you out, because have you been sleeping well?
2:46 Speaker 01 No.
2:47 Speaker 03 So maybe that's why.
2:48 Speaker 01 We should talk about our new rooms.
2:50 Speaker 03 Yes.
2:51 Speaker 01 Okay, so I was moving into the big bedroom and Brett was using another bedroom. Because we didn't want to get new roommates.
3:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
3:01 Speaker 01 We wanted, we were like, it just doesn't feel right. We don't want to get new roommates.
3:03 Speaker 03 We also needed more space.
3:04 Speaker 01 We needed more space.
3:05 Speaker 03 Both of us.
3:05 Speaker 01 My closet was throwing up.
3:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, like you needed more space. I needed more space. My room was like packed to the brim. Like, I couldn't move in my room.
3:14 Speaker 01 You lived in a box.
3:15 Speaker 03 I lived in a box. My room was the smallest in the house, which is fine.
3:23 Speaker 03 Which is fine.
3:24 Speaker 01 I mean, not only is it the smallest in the house, the ceiling concaves in, so like...
3:29 Speaker 03 The ceiling does concave in, yeah. And I'm having like, no room for anything. Like, I had like four dressers.
3:36 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
3:37 Speaker 03 I had no hanging space.
3:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
3:39 Speaker 03 So anyway, yeah, so now Julia's old room is my like closet glam get ready room. That has like all my clothes, pretty much, except for like my PJs.
3:48 Speaker 01 And the people who, and then my room is completely redone.
3:51 Speaker 03 Jake's room looks insane.
3:53 Speaker 01 It's insane.
3:53 Speaker 03 Everything looks insane.
3:54 Speaker 01 It's really, really, really quite insane. I've never had a room like it. Like, I'm so excited to spend time in my room. I've never had a TV so big in my room. I just took pay-ins.
4:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
4:02 Speaker 01 And there's one person to thank.
4:05 Speaker 03 The go to girls.
4:06 Speaker 01 This is not sponsored.
4:09 Speaker 03 Not at all.
4:10 Speaker 01 We paid them.
4:11 Speaker 03 Ashley and Stacy, Ashley and Stacy were addicted.
4:15 Speaker 01 We love you guys so much. Like, they changed our room.
4:18 Speaker 03 Changed.
4:19 Speaker 01 Changed our house. They changed our house. Like, I'm not embarrassed anymore to have people over.
4:23 Speaker 03 Me either. And you know what? We're gonna keep it that way.
4:26 Speaker 01 We are.
4:27 Speaker 03 No, we are.
4:27 Speaker 01 We are.
4:28 Speaker 03 Cause like, we got rid of so much stuff. So here's the thing, like, I, it's, they're worth every penny for a myriad of reasons, but I think the biggest one for me is that it forced me to literally go through everything.
4:38 Speaker 01 Right.
4:38 Speaker 03 And donate so much. And like, just get stuff out of our house, the clutter out. It's just like, our house just feels lighter. It feels like airier. Doesn't it feel airier? Yeah.
4:49 Speaker 01 I agree. I mean, like, I like, love being in bed.
4:52 Speaker 03 Yeah. I mean, your room is everything.
4:54 Speaker 01 My room is pretty insane.
4:56 Speaker 03 And it has a plant?
4:58 Speaker 01 Yeah, it has a plant, and I know the plant is fake, and like, that way it'll stay alive forever.
5:02 Speaker 03 But it's just like the vibes. It's like...
5:04 Speaker 01 I can bring a boy over.
5:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:06 Speaker 01 And like, it's hot. Like, oh yeah, this is my room.
5:08 Speaker 03 Yeah. One thousand more times.
5:10 Speaker 01 My room used to...
5:10 Speaker 03 Oh, he walks through your closet to get to the bathroom, and he's like, damn.
5:13 Speaker 01 Damn. Like, why does he have so many shoes?
5:15 Speaker 03 Yeah.
5:15 Speaker 01 Like, damn, like, damn, like, you know, like, when I used to have a guys over, like, come on. The room was purple with stuffed animals.
5:25 Speaker 03 Wait, where are you putting your sign? Your glow up sign?
5:28 Speaker 01 It's gonna stay in the back house.
5:29 Speaker 03 Okay, I think that's, I think that's good.
5:30 Speaker 01 I think, you know, it's not...
5:32 Speaker 03 Jake has this glow up sign. What does it say? Tensa?
5:34 Speaker 01 Tensa.
5:34 Speaker 03 He would sleep with it on. It's LED purple light.
5:37 Speaker 01 Cassie used to get so mad.
5:39 Speaker 03 He would sleep with it on. It illuminates the entire room. I don't know how you fell asleep.
5:42 Speaker 01 The mattress is getting more comfortable, by the way.
5:44 Speaker 03 Okay, good.
5:44 Speaker 01 I was really panicking. I don't think my body was used to sleeping on a king.
5:48 Speaker 03 I don't think so either. And I think mattresses, they do take like, at least like, a few days, like, maybe two weeks.
5:53 Speaker 01 To be honest, all it took was you sitting on it and saying, oh, this is comfortable. You don't think this is comfortable? And then I was like, oh, maybe I'm wrong. And that was it.
6:00 Speaker 03 Wow.
6:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
6:02 Speaker 03 You're welcome.
6:02 Speaker 01 Thank you so much.
6:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
6:04 Speaker 01 So Brett's watching the summer I turn pretty.
6:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, but here's the thing, they get you because like I wasn't watching this season and then I watched one episode. And I was like, fuck.
6:16 Speaker 01 Let me tell you what I found most confusing. I jumped in, obviously randomly. I obviously understand that Belly is getting married to Jeremiah. Okay, so what I found most confusing is her bachelor and his, her bachelorette and his bachelor party consisted of a few things. Number one, um, she had two friends for her bachelorette party.
6:41 Speaker 03 Which is like, just like hire like extras and say they're like childhood friends. Like it doesn't matter that she only has two friends in the show.
6:47 Speaker 01 It was just like very confusing to me. Like they were, she, and then she went to the bar for her two friends. So there was three people and it's like, can we have 10 shots of tequila? So that would mean it's not, that's not even distribution. So like the whole thing just didn't feel very thought out to me. And then their activity during the day for both of their bachelor and bachelorette parties, which they were doing in the same house, was choreographing dances together. What was the point? Were they trying to make TikToks?
7:17 Speaker 03 So I think they're for like the reception, Taylor, because Taylor, her best friend said like, we have to practice the reception dance.
7:23 Speaker 01 But the sync budget on that show, I mean, do you think Taylor is just like for free?
7:29 Speaker 03 I wonder.
7:30 Speaker 01 Like, but how can they afford multiple Taylor songs in one episode?
7:36 Speaker 03 I know.
7:36 Speaker 01 They did Robin and Love of My Life.
7:38 Speaker 03 And I think there was one other one, maybe. I forget.
7:41 Speaker 01 I'm sure there fucking was.
7:42 Speaker 03 And there was like Billy, Charlie, Charlie XCX.
7:45 Speaker 01 Is that?
7:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, there was a Charlie XCX.
7:48 Speaker 01 Which one?
7:49 Speaker 03 Girl, it's so confusing sometimes.
7:51 Speaker 01 In the bachelor part?
7:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, when they go to the club, you weren't watching, you were showering.
7:55 Speaker 01 They went to a dive bar?
7:56 Speaker 03 The girls went to a club.
7:58 Speaker 01 How was the club?
8:00 Speaker 03 Belly like freaks out and is like, I'm in love with Conrad. Cause she, and she's like, I'm so high.
8:05 Speaker 01 Cause she ate a gummy?
8:06 Speaker 03 Cause she had a gummy, yeah. Yeah. But, um, I think.
8:10 Speaker 01 Like for my bachelor party, like I am going to be.
8:14 Speaker 03 Yeah, what's that gonna look like?
8:15 Speaker 01 I don't care how sober I am from any, I am going to be. Well, I want, okay, actually, this is a good thing. For my bachelor party, I want to do Greece.
8:26 Speaker 03 Right.
8:27 Speaker 01 And I think hopefully, I mean, from what I figured, I will get married late enough in life where everyone can take off time and hopefully, you know, figure it out. Um, I want to do Greece.
8:40 Speaker 03 Yeah, I'm down.
8:41 Speaker 01 We were talking about this the other day.
8:43 Speaker 03 Yeah, we were.
8:43 Speaker 01 There's only like a handful of bachelor places to go.
8:46 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah, exactly.
8:47 Speaker 01 But also, like, you know, like, I'm gonna be so bored on my bachelor party, day one.
8:52 Speaker 03 Well, that's, we just, you have to have someone plan it for you, and we'll plan it and make it really fun. But you'll have to have time to like nap and decompress, because you don't want her to be doing stuff all day, every day.
9:00 Speaker 01 Never.
9:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, so, it's fine.
9:03 Speaker 01 Maybe we should go to like Paris and go off our phones. No.
9:08 Speaker 03 Yeah, no, that's not happening, especially for you. And me. Whose screen time is worse?
9:16 Speaker 01 Uh, mine's actually not bad, it was like six hours the other day.
9:19 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, mine's worse.
9:20 Speaker 01 What's yours?
9:21 Speaker 03 Mine's like over ten every single week, average.
9:24 Speaker 01 Do you sleep with it next to your head? We need to stop.
9:29 Speaker 03 I listen to podcasts to fall asleep and I put it right there.
9:31 Speaker 01 So you need to connect to a speaker and we need to stop.
9:33 Speaker 03 Really?
9:34 Speaker 01 It's really, it's really bad.
9:35 Speaker 03 Is it?
9:35 Speaker 01 It's really bad.
9:36 Speaker 03 I didn't know if that was just fear mongering.
9:38 Speaker 01 And if you're a doctor, do not fucking stitch, stitch this, because I don't wanna know, I already have an inkling.
9:43 Speaker 03 I know.
9:43 Speaker 01 And like, we're balls deep in what we've done.
9:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:46 Speaker 01 So like, if we have the big B C, I don't wanna know.
9:51 Speaker 03 We're definitely too far gone, I feel like.
9:53 Speaker 01 Figure out what B C was?
9:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
9:55 Speaker 01 Cool.
9:56 Speaker 03 Well, here's the thing.
9:56 Speaker 01 Oh, Nolan, it's brain cancer. Oh.
9:59 Speaker 03 When, when I was little, I used, I wasn't allowed to like have my iPod in bed, but I would have it anyway, and I would listen with headphones and put it under my pillows, like, I'm fucked.
10:09 Speaker 01 My parents used to say that when I would listen to headphones, I would go deaf.
10:12 Speaker 03 Really?
10:13 Speaker 01 Yeah.
10:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, I think I think it is what it is. But I'll, I'll try to stop listening to, like, right there.
10:21 Speaker 01 We have to.
10:22 Speaker 03 Really?
10:23 Speaker 01 I just like, might as well cut it off now, we know.
10:25 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:26 Speaker 01 We know.
10:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
10:29 Speaker 01 Life of a showgirl.
10:32 Speaker 03 Life of a showgirl.
10:33 Speaker 01 Which tracker? So obviously, like, we were going back to our midnight roots. Like, we have a countdown in the house. We are very, very excited. What song are you claiming? What songs do you think is gonna be your favorite?
10:44 Speaker 03 I'm, I'm claiming Wood. Is that, like, so rogue of me?
10:47 Speaker 01 No, I'm claiming...
10:49 Speaker 03 Yeah, what are you claiming?
10:51 Speaker 01 I have a gut feeling. I will be wrong.
10:53 Speaker 03 Okay.
10:55 Speaker 01 It can go fifty-fifty, but if it works in my favor, like, I know it will be amazing. Elizabeth Taylor.
11:00 Speaker 03 I, I knew you were gonna say that.
11:02 Speaker 01 Something about it is giving, like, grown-up style.
11:05 Speaker 03 Ah, you're so right.
11:07 Speaker 01 Or, like, grown-up wildest dreams, and like, I know.
11:09 Speaker 03 You're so right.
11:10 Speaker 01 And I'm just like, I wanna put that out there now. But like, I don't know how she can say Elizabeth Taylor, like, in the chorus, you know? Like, I'd rather her, like, say ET, or like, like, make it like, a little more catchy, or like...
11:24 Speaker 03 What's crazy to me is that...
11:26 Speaker 01 But she always makes it work!
11:27 Speaker 03 She always makes it work, but what's crazy to me is that the tracklist, like, really isn't reading, like, a pop album.
11:33 Speaker 01 I know, the fate of Ophelia.
11:35 Speaker 03 It's reading, like, fucking folklore.
11:37 Speaker 01 Because you know what she, what, did we talk about this? We saw a video where she, okay, so, she took the criticism...
11:42 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah, I, I told you about this.
11:43 Speaker 01 Can you?
11:44 Speaker 03 Yes, credit to the Swiftologist. It was his video, but he was like, Taylor always, like, takes the constructive criticism and, like, applies it to her next album, and he was talking to which how people were saying they were sick of Jack Anstoff, and so this album has no Jack. But if you go back, it's that Reputation was too dark and, like, like, grungy of an album.
12:05 Speaker 01 So that she did Lover.
12:06 Speaker 03 So she did Lover. And then Lover was too, like, catering towards kids, and too, like, poppy and, like, playful. So then she does, and like, too, like, basslines, and she does Folklore and Evermore.
12:16 Speaker 01 And then, everyone's like, we miss your pop stuff.
12:19 Speaker 03 We miss your pop, so do Midnight.
12:19 Speaker 01 But then everyone was like, we miss your deep stuff.
12:22 Speaker 03 Yeah, and they were like, and they were like, Midnight, he was like, Midnight was, like, shallow. So then she does, like, fucking, like, Tortured Poet, which is, like, her, like, most, like, vulnerable, like, you know?
12:31 Speaker 01 Right.
12:32 Speaker 03 And then now they're sick of Jack Anstoff, so Back to Max Martin, which I'm psyched about. Here's the thing, I love Jack Anstoff, but once, like, this was, like, probably a year and a half ago, when people started hating on Jack, I looked up what songs Max Martin had done with Taylor.
12:47 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:47 Speaker 03 They're all my favorites.
12:49 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:49 Speaker 03 I mean, of course, Getaway Car, August Love, but like, Delicate, Don't Blame Me, Style, um... 22 weird, like, I love those pop ones. I love them.
12:59 Speaker 01 I, yeah, I mean, I think it's gonna be incredible. I also think she wants this to be, I don't think she has felt, I think the Eras Tour like made her feel, like, but like, I don't think she has felt
13:15 Speaker 01 the same, I, like, in her mind, the way I'm just trying to visualize it, 1989 was the last time that she had an album where multiple singles were like going number one. Like, the songs were legitimately taking over the airwaves.
13:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
13:31 Speaker 01 Swifty culture became so big, so that she, like, you know what I mean? Like, it became more of an album thing.
13:38 Speaker 03 Yes.
13:39 Speaker 01 And like, it was like the album as a whole, like, am I making sense right now?
13:43 Speaker 03 No, you're right.
13:44 Speaker 01 I think she wants "Life of a Showgirl" to be like, like, I think she wants to take it back to like the early two, like, the 2010s of being like, this album has five number one hits on it. Like, I, not, I don't only have like the lead single of "Antihero" and then like everything else, like, we, some people, it's like not like number one, like, she's like, I want each of these to be number one.
14:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
14:06 Speaker 01 So that's why this has 12 tracks, like, I know they're back to back to back to back to back to back bangers.
14:11 Speaker 03 Also, like, the way she's speaking about it is like so confident.
14:14 Speaker 01 That's what I'm thinking too, and also, like, she's saying, like, there's, no bonus, nothing, like,
14:21 Speaker 03 Which, are we even gonna get into it?
14:24 Speaker 01 No, I'm fine with a no bonus, because people said that-
14:27 Speaker 03 No, no, no, but have you seen that there was a Pinocchio on the shelf, so people think she's fucking lying?
14:31 Speaker 01 Was there a Pinocchio in the other videos?
14:34 Speaker 03 What do you mean?
14:34 Speaker 01 Like, has anyone watched other New Heights videos? Was there a Pinocchio in the back?
14:37 Speaker 03 I don't know, I didn't go that deep into it, cuz I was just like-
14:40 Speaker 01 I only believe the, if there is not a, if, if that set behind her, besides the TS, is intentional, like, if, like, there's new things that weren't in Travis and Jason's old stuff, I believe the Pinocchio. I think no lead single.
14:53 Speaker 03 There's no way, I, I feel like she doesn't do that anymore.
14:56 Speaker 01 Well, no one does. Like, Billie didn't do it.
15:00 Speaker 03 Oh.
15:02 Speaker 01 Billie didn't do a lead single, Taylor doesn't do lead singles, Beyonce doesn't do lead singles, and I think
15:07 Speaker 03 Oh yeah.
15:07 Speaker 01 Taylor is like, I'm a great.
15:08 Speaker 03 I thought Beyonce did Texas Hold'em.
15:10 Speaker 01 She did, wow. You're so right.
15:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:13 Speaker 01 She did.
15:13 Speaker 03 I remember.
15:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:15 Speaker 03 So maybe...
15:16 Speaker 01 I don't think so.
15:17 Speaker 03 I don't think so.
15:17 Speaker 01 Maybe week of?
15:18 Speaker 03 No, I don't think so.
15:20 Speaker 01 Week before?
15:21 Speaker 03 I don't think so.
15:22 Speaker 01 No.
15:22 Speaker 03 But like the singles for 1989.
15:25 Speaker 01 I mean, that's...
15:28 Speaker 03 Crazy.
15:29 Speaker 01 I, uh, I am claiming Elizabeth Taylor, and I'm, I'm also claiming...
15:34 Speaker 03 I, I, why am I like blinking out? What's track five? Oh, eldest daughter. All the oldest daughters are like, ah.
15:40 Speaker 01 I won't relate because I act like an only child even though I have a younger brother.
15:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:44 Speaker 01 You won't relate, you're the youngest.
15:46 Speaker 03 Yeah. But I think it'll be good.
15:48 Speaker 01 I know we're getting ahead of ourselves, but I'd also like to put this out there now. I think for her 13th album, can I tell you my idea?
15:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
15:57 Speaker 01 I think she is going to do a three-part album drop all at once.
16:03 Speaker 03 Damn.
16:04 Speaker 01 Or over the course of three weeks.
16:06 Speaker 03 What do you mean by three-part album?
16:08 Speaker 01 In a similar vein to Beyonce's Act One, Act Two, Act Three.
16:11 Speaker 03 Oh.
16:11 Speaker 01 But not with that much time in between because she's gonna want it all to be the 13th album.
16:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:17 Speaker 01 First half is, first part is country.
16:19 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
16:20 Speaker 01 Because she's country in her first part of her career. Second part is pop.
16:23 Speaker 03 Mm-hmm.
16:24 Speaker 01 And the third part is folk.
16:25 Speaker 03 Damn.
16:26 Speaker 01 And I think that is going to be her 13th album. And it is going to be 13 tracks each, so it is going to be 39 tracks. And I think this, and I think that, and I think that is why she is doing The Life of the Showgirl, 12 pop tracks now, because this is her last attempt at like, singles. Like, I want a single album.
16:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:47 Speaker 01 Like, an album that is appreciated as a whole, but that has multiple number one singles on it.
16:52 Speaker 03 Yeah.
16:53 Speaker 01 I think for her 13th album, she wants like it to be like a biblical body of work.
16:57 Speaker 03 I, I agree. And you, like, you're, I feel like...
17:00 Speaker 01 My, my senses are pretty.
17:02 Speaker 03 Your senses are good.
17:03 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:03 Speaker 03 You're like knowing, I feel like.
17:05 Speaker 01 I just feel like my senses are pretty on point. I can tell when I read something that's bullshit, and when I read something that that's not true. And I remember someone said to me... I just have a feeling she's gonna go back to country for 13 in some capacity.
17:17 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:17 Speaker 01 And I think that's true.
17:18 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:19 Speaker 01 Also, Taylor loves the charts.
17:21 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:22 Speaker 01 She loves, and she's not one to hide that.
17:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:24 Speaker 01 She thinks it's awesome.
17:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:25 Speaker 01 As I would too.
17:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:26 Speaker 01 And what's going number one on the charts? Country.
17:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, that's so true.
17:32 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:33 Speaker 03 That is so true.
17:34 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:34 Speaker 03 Which is kinda underrated.
17:35 Speaker 01 And I'm not saying that in like a vilifying way. Like, you know what I mean? I feel like people always say that and like, you know, she loves the charts, wouldn't you? It's your job.
17:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
17:43 Speaker 01 It's like, why are we pretending?
17:44 Speaker 03 Who doesn't care about the charts?
17:45 Speaker 01 Why are we pretending? My thing is just like, why are we pretending that this isn't her job? I feel like with pop stars, it's like, we are pretending that like, like it's that weird idea that we just want to like hand them success and have them be like, "Thank you", and then take it away when we get the chance? No, it's her job.
18:01 Speaker 03 Yeah.
18:02 Speaker 01 It's her job.
18:03 Speaker 03 And also, like, people like always say, like, would a pro athlete like run slower to like let someone else win? No!
18:12 Speaker 01 No! Also, pro athletes care about championship rings.
18:17 Speaker 03 That's what I'm saying.
18:19 Speaker 01 That is billboard. Like, whether you like to believe it as a music fan or not, that is what it is.
18:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
18:25 Speaker 01 I don't care.
18:26 Speaker 03 Like-
18:26 Speaker 01 The Grammy Album of the Year is the football championship of music.
18:30 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's the Super Bowl. Yeah. So that's why I get upset when she's, when people are like X, Y, and Z complaining about her structure and like how she does things. Like, listen, she's not gonna slow down to let others in front of her.
18:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's like inherently super misogynistic.
18:48 Speaker 03 I agree, and I think I will, I will stand on this hill, and I know that people get annoyed when people say this, but if she was a man-
18:54 Speaker 01 True.
18:55 Speaker 03 It wouldn't be a conversation. It would not be a conversation.
18:57 Speaker 01 It wouldn't. You hot?
18:58 Speaker 03 It's hot in here.
18:59 Speaker 01 Wow, I just got really heated.
19:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
19:01 Speaker 01 What else should we talk about?
19:03 Speaker 03 Passionate about the Taylor at all.
19:05 Speaker 01 Do you have any goals for your birthday this year?
19:07 Speaker 03 Um, you know, so I'm-
19:09 Speaker 01 I'm sick, sorry.
19:10 Speaker 03 I'm hav- you think?
19:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, for sure.
19:12 Speaker 03 Fuck.
19:12 Speaker 01 I know.
19:13 Speaker 03 You need to take vitamin C.
19:14 Speaker 01 I know.
19:15 Speaker 03 Um, I think that I'm doing something like on a, like more formal scale this year. The past two years, I've done like a big fun pre-game, and then like we've gone out. Um, but this year I'm doing like a party.
19:30 Speaker 01 That's your goal?
19:31 Speaker 03 No, but I'm, I'm saying my goal-
19:35 Speaker 03 Can you let me talk?
19:38 Speaker 03 I'm saying my goal is for it to be fun.
19:41 Speaker 01 Oh, no, I meant like for the year age 25.
19:45 Speaker 03 Oh.
19:47 Speaker 01 I was like, that's your goal?
19:49 Speaker 03 I thought you were talking about for like my actual birthday.
19:51 Speaker 01 Oh, no, it's okay. I'm sorry. I feel mean.
19:52 Speaker 03 Oh, it's okay. But let me finish my answer and then I'll go into my new year. So I just want to not be like anxious and like have it. I hope it's fun.
20:01 Speaker 01 It will be fun.
20:02 Speaker 03 For my actual birthday. For the year of 25, I actually, knock on wood, I really have high hopes for this year.
20:09 Speaker 01 Bitch, don't play with me.
20:10 Speaker 03 Knock on wood.
20:11 Speaker 01 Wait, do not three times?
20:13 Speaker 03 Yeah. Which by the way, Jake has been doing that to you three times since I met him.
20:17 Speaker 01 Really?
20:18 Speaker 03 Yeah. You would, in the car, you'd always say, do you know two times? And I'd be like, yes.
20:22 Speaker 01 Always.
20:23 Speaker 03 But, um, like, I think my goal is to just like continue to grow in my career and like, continue to, you know, I don't know. I just think that it's, it's a formative year and like I feel so grateful and I'm sure you feel the same way that like, we do things that like we love so much at a young age. Like I think that that's really cool.
20:48 Speaker 01 Yeah.
20:48 Speaker 03 And so I just want to like continue in that and like, I feel like I have a lot of like cool things like coming my way and like.
20:54 Speaker 01 Maybe like growing your merch line.
20:57 Speaker 03 Yeah, like definitely some type of like business. I mean, like my run club is dropping tomorrow, which like is very exciting. Yeah.
21:04 Speaker 01 It's the comfiest sweater I own.
21:05 Speaker 03 Oh, that's so nice.
21:07 Speaker 01 I slept in it in Portland.
21:08 Speaker 03 And you have been like standing on the Spice Run Club since I showed you the.
21:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think it's my favorite one.
21:13 Speaker 03 Yeah. Um, so yeah, maybe that. Um, I mean, I'm running Chicago in October. I'd like to run a spring marathon ideally.
21:20 Speaker 01 Whoa.
21:22 Speaker 03 Yeah. Yeah. Cause think about it. I did Boston in April and then New York in November, which those were only six months apart, but it feels like they were like years apart, doesn't it?
21:31 Speaker 01 Do you get triggered about Boston?
21:33 Speaker 03 No, we can talk about it.
21:37 Speaker 01 I remember.
21:38 Speaker 03 It was the worst day of my life.
21:39 Speaker 01 We track Brett's every move on marathons and I just remember, like, I just.
21:44 Speaker 03 You especially, like, tapped in.
21:46 Speaker 01 I'm very tapped in and I just remember.
21:50 Speaker 01 You, Julia knew what you wanted. Like, Julia, oh, because she listens very, like, she listens to you. She knew the time you wanted.
21:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
21:57 Speaker 01 So I'm obviously like, let's go, let's go. And Julia's like, fuck.
22:01 Speaker 03 Yeah, like, something happened.
22:03 Speaker 01 Because it was, she clocked that certain passageway.
22:07 Speaker 03 Yeah, because it was like, if you guys were tracking me on, like, the online or the app thing, like, it showed that, like, my overall pace was, like, slowing.
22:14 Speaker 01 Ah, you know what my goal is for you, aside from at any marathon record? Like, running-wise, physically, I want you to be the number one most-tracked person at the Chicago Marathon.
22:25 Speaker 03 Me too.
22:26 Speaker 01 And Brett, where can they fucking find you?
22:29 Speaker 03 What do you mean?
22:29 Speaker 01 On the tracker app.
22:31 Speaker 03 Oh.
22:33 Speaker 03 Well, I don't have my bib or anything yet, but it's the Chicago Marathon app, I believe. And you'll just search Brett Chody.
22:39 Speaker 01 And we'll repurpose this clip when it happens. This is her bib number.
22:45 Speaker 03 Yeah.
22:46 Speaker 01 And search Brett Chody.
22:48 Speaker 03 Not to be like, but I was the second most-tracked in New York, which I think was arguably, like, that's like, in my mind, like, a bigger deal than if I were to be number one in Chicago, because, like, New York is like.
22:57 Speaker 01 Understood, but Chicago is your hometown. This is your hometown run.
22:59 Speaker 03 Yeah.
23:00 Speaker 01 But, yeah, Boston.
23:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, I mean, it was like, it was just like hot and like, it was just like a bad day. It was just.
23:08 Speaker 01 Do you feel, like, what did you feel like the second you finished? Were you like, don't talk to me?
23:13 Speaker 03 Yeah. I saw my coach, like, right after I finished, and I just, like, started crying. I was like, bitch, Kim. Did not go well. And she was like.
23:24 Speaker 01 But then New York was amazing.
23:25 Speaker 03 New York was amazing. And then, like, yeah, I found Max and that photographer took those photos, which, like, honestly.
23:30 Speaker 01 Eight.
23:31 Speaker 03 Eight. Like, I would have, like, bonked in a million more marathons for.
23:35 Speaker 01 To get those photos.
23:36 Speaker 03 Those fucking photos. No, seriously, like. Yeah, those photos are everything and the fact that we didn't know they were being taken and the fact that someone found them randomly on Instagram and DM to me. So I found, like, I wouldn't have found the photographer and those are my favorite photos.
23:50 Speaker 01 Did you, what's the Spring Marathon, London?
23:53 Speaker 03 London or?
23:54 Speaker 01 Don't play with me.
23:57 Speaker 03 I know, I know. You gotta come because you love London.
24:00 Speaker 01 Obviously, Allison, I will first slide out to London.
24:02 Speaker 03 Um, but yeah, it's London or Boston. I'm still kind of figuring out, um.
24:06 Speaker 01 Oh, you want redemption?
24:08 Speaker 03 I'm gonna redo Boston, but I'll only do Boston if I don't get a London bib, basically.
24:13 Speaker 01 Is London the hardest?
24:14 Speaker 03 London's the hardest to get into because they really prioritize like UK citizens. So it's like lottery, but like I'm hoping to like-
24:21 Speaker 01 So it's not based on merit?
24:23 Speaker 03 No. I can't apply with like a good time, but I'm hoping to kind of like get in with nepotism.
24:29 Speaker 01 What, what do you mean like?
24:31 Speaker 03 As in like I'm a running influencer and they give out those bibs, which has actually been controversy about that recently, but like I think that you guys can agree that I would deserve it.
24:42 Speaker 01 I think you definitely deserve it.
24:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, because like I'm a real runner, you know? There's all this discourse about people who aren't real runners getting bibs to the majors and I don't really, I'm not gonna like get into that, but like I'm a real runner, so.
24:54 Speaker 01 Yeah, she shit in the woods once.
24:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, multiple times.
24:57 Speaker 01 You're a runner.
24:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
24:59 Speaker 01 Huh, well, what was I gonna say? London would be awesome. Tokyo would be even cooler, respectfully.
25:04 Speaker 03 Tokyo will be the last one I do of the majors.
25:06 Speaker 01 I want you to kind of redemption arc Boston.
25:09 Speaker 03 I will, and that's gonna be a sick day.
25:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's gonna be awesome. I'm excited for Chicago.
25:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, me too. What else? Do you want to talk about Scandal? Do you want to talk about?
25:18 Speaker 01 Oh, you know what I would love to talk about?
25:20 Speaker 03 What?
25:20 Speaker 01 Last night, me and Manny and Will went to, one night only, Carly Rae motherfucking Jepsen.
25:28 Speaker 03 Yeah.
25:29 Speaker 01 Give Manny the damn mic, please. We saw Carly Rae Jepsen perform Emotion, front to back. What songs do you know off Emotion? Just like if I'm like, here, here is Carly Rae Jepsen's emotions. What song would you be like, I know this song. You know Run Away With Me?
25:45 Speaker 03 Is I Want You In My Room on Emotion? No.
25:47 Speaker 01 No!
25:48 Speaker 03 That's on Dedicated. Okay. I don't, I don't know then. What else is on Emotions? I Want You In My Room is my favorite, though. Also, let me just say it's Emotion.
25:57 Speaker 01 Sorry.
25:58 Speaker 03 Emotion. Manny's a big Carly Rae stan.
26:01 Speaker 01 Manny is Carly Rae.
26:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:04 Speaker 01 Right, that's what Will said. Manny was like, that's Manny.
26:06 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:07 Speaker 01 Yeah. She's wearing a hat right now that says, "Boy Problems." Okay, so I think it's just crazy because every song is so you-coded. L.A. Hallucinations is the most you-coded.
26:18 Speaker 03 Me?
26:19 Speaker 01 Yeah. What do you think?
26:21 Speaker 04 Like, as far as being Brett-coded?
26:23 Speaker 01 Like, what song, if we're like, listen to it, would she like?
26:26 Speaker 04 All of them. All of them. I think if you like, if you like, I mean, okay, Taylor Swift is very, very, very different.
26:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:33 Speaker 04 However, if you are a Taylor Swift fan, I do think that you just inherently would like Carly's music.
26:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
26:39 Speaker 01 I honestly see her liking "Warm Blood."
26:41 Speaker 04 Uh, yeah, well, who wouldn't?
26:46 Speaker 03 Okay, I'll listen.
26:48 Speaker 04 I think, you know "Run Away With Me," though, you said?
26:50 Speaker 03 Yes.
26:50 Speaker 04 I mean, that's like, one of the greatest songs ever made.
26:52 Speaker 03 Yeah. I was saying to Jake earlier, I was like, I'm kind of sad that she's not bigger.
26:58 Speaker 04 I know.
26:59 Speaker 01 And me too, but selfishly, last night was one of the most magical nights of my life. It literally felt like a, like, it was 500 people at the Troubadour. Everybody, Manny was saying, like, everybody there knew every single word.
27:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, like, that's special.
27:14 Speaker 04 And her parents were there, and she pointed them out, and they were sitting like, two rows ahead of us.
27:17 Speaker 03 Oh.
27:18 Speaker 04 And her dad kept filming everything, and it was so sweet.
27:20 Speaker 03 Oh, that's really sweet.
27:22 Speaker 01 And it started, like, I'm gonna get full-body chills. It started, we just heard, "Do, do-do-do, do-do-do."
27:30 Speaker 03 That's sick.
27:31 Speaker 01 Do-do-do, and then she walked out on stage.
27:33 Speaker 03 That's sick.
27:34 Speaker 01 And it was like, wow, life is literally worth living. Like, I'm not even kidding, like, it was so crazy.
27:39 Speaker 03 And let me just say, you've been standing on Carly Rae since college. Probably even before that, but I remember in college, you were like, "No Brett, like, she's the ultimate pop girl, yada, yada, yada." And I was like, "What? I only know her for Call Me Maybe."
27:52 Speaker 01 I'm, emotion is just like, and the thing is, the reason why emotion, and people have written about this, the reason why emotion didn't become bigger is because in order to be, it's not like a requirement, but it's often needed, in order to be a main pop girl, in order for... Both like for everyone to find interest in and it's I think it's rooted a little bit not a little bit I think it's rooted in misogyny. In order for a girl to become like a main pop girl like they need to divulge their personal life like they need to have people interested in their own personal life.
28:25 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:25 Speaker 01 Because people want to like take stake in what they're talking about whereas the weekend I don't know who the fucking songs are about.
28:33 Speaker 04 Yeah.
28:33 Speaker 01 Like you know what I mean but he's like a main pop guy.
28:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, she also hasn't dated anyone publicly or like anyone famous at least that we know of like we don't know anything about.
28:42 Speaker 01 Right and that and and so no one's like and that people say that is why emotion didn't take off because the songs are so objectively good Brett like. What's the tracklist can you please pull up the tracklist like pull up the damn tracklist like.
28:58 Speaker 04 The tracklist was like literally just the album.
29:01 Speaker 01 She went front to back.
29:02 Speaker 03 Is this her newest album emotion?
29:05 Speaker 04 Brett.
29:05 Speaker 01 Brett.
29:07 Speaker 03 Sorry. I was celebrating 10 years.
29:09 Speaker 04 It was the 10 year anniversary.
29:10 Speaker 03 Sorry.
29:13 Speaker 04 Okay, Run Away With Me.
29:15 Speaker 01 Run Away With Me so that opens the album and that's just like basically so basically the beautiful part about Run Away With Me is because. Emotion is oh my god I have full body chills emotion is a pop fantasy dreamland. So Run Away With Me starts and she's saying to the listener and her lover in this album take my hand. Run away with me and just like literally let go for this next hour of music it is not that motherfucking serious. This is fun run away with me like wow I'm serious okay number two.
29:50 Speaker 04 Emotion.
29:51 Speaker 01 I mean.
29:51 Speaker 03 Was this her first album after Call Me Maybe?
29:55 Speaker 01 No.
29:55 Speaker 04 She had like one album before Call Me Maybe yeah this was the first one after okay.
30:00 Speaker 01 Yes because it had I Really Like You.
30:01 Speaker 03 Oh oh yeah.
30:02 Speaker 01 Which by the way still fucks.
30:04 Speaker 04 No that song is good that song is like you would think it's I guess because the chorus is so repetitive and kind of like cheesy you think it's a bad song it's an amazing song. It's not bad in the slightest.
30:15 Speaker 01 Oh did I say too much I'm so in my head like yeah.
30:21 Speaker 01 And also, okay, what's after Emotion?
30:24 Speaker 04 I really like you.
30:25 Speaker 01 I really like you, yes.
30:26 Speaker 04 Okay.
30:27 Speaker 01 Great. But that's like a harder one to get people.
30:28 Speaker 04 This one?
30:29 Speaker 01 I know that one.
30:29 Speaker 04 Underrated, underrated. Gimme love.
30:32 Speaker 01 Gimme love. Gimme love, gimme love, gimme love, gimme love, gimme touch. Cause I want what I want, what I want. Do you want too much?
30:42 Speaker 04 I think you played that one for me.
30:43 Speaker 01 It's a banger. It's a banger. But like, trust, there are better. Next.
30:46 Speaker 04 All that.
30:49 Speaker 01 And that crescendo at the end's alive, Brett. Tell me if you want me, if all that, I will be your friend.
31:00 Speaker 04 It also starts like a weird, like seventies, eighties.
31:04 Speaker 01 It's Fall Scotty. It's Fall Scotty.
31:06 Speaker 04 I feel like you're single-handedly gonna like boost her streams.
31:09 Speaker 01 Please. Listen to Emotion by Carly Rae Jepsen. Part three comes out in October. I'm dead ass serious. She had part B with Cut to the Feeling, which is the greatest pop song of all time. Like, don't even. But like, seriously, like.
31:24 Speaker 01 Next, next, next.
31:25 Speaker 04 Boy Problems. Duh.
31:26 Speaker 01 Boy Problems. You got them. I got them too.
31:33 Speaker 04 When she opened it, she said, who here has boy problems?
31:35 Speaker 01 And everyone went.
31:40 Speaker 01 And it was fucking batshit. And by the way, most respectful crowd ever.
31:46 Speaker 04 Actually, yes, that's so true.
31:48 Speaker 01 Everyone was like, we thought, like, we thought everyone was gonna, like, it was gonna be like. When I was getting out of there, like, everyone was like, oh my god, like, here you go, go through. Like, I'm just happy to be with Miss Carly Rae. Like, you know what I mean?
32:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
32:01 Speaker 01 Okay, next.
32:02 Speaker 04 Making the most of the night.
32:05 Speaker 01 When she fucking dropped this shit live, I mean, like, I nearly wet my pants. Like, I was literally like, cause I was like, okay, I'm excited for Making the Most of the Night. And then the chorus hit and I was like, mm. Like, you know what I mean? Like, I was like, making the most of the night. I know you had a rough time, but you know that one. But here I come, I'mma hijack you, hijack you, I love you, ah. Making the most of the night, ah. Okay, next.
32:32 Speaker 04 Your Type.
32:34 Speaker 01 So I can't talk about this song without seriously, like. You know what, Brett? Like, this is your song.
32:42 Speaker 04 You think?
32:43 Speaker 01 Cause this is mine.
32:44 Speaker 04 Okay.
32:44 Speaker 01 And we have very similar tastes.
32:45 Speaker 04 Yeah, we do.
32:48 Speaker 01 I can't talk about this song like without being dramatic. Like, and I understand I've spoken about every track with being dramatic. I don't know how to like tell you about this song. Okay, so she's saying, "I'm not the type of girl for you. I'm not going..." Oh, she's saying like, "I have a crush on this guy." Okay. "But I'm not his type. But I don't want to be your fucking friend. Like, I don't want to be your friend. I want to fuck you." Okay. "And I'm not your type. So do I just kill myself or what?" And like,
33:27 Speaker 01 Carly Rae Jepsen is our modern day Robin.
33:31 Speaker 01 Totally. You think? I know so.
33:35 Speaker 01 I know so. And people are gonna be like, "He's wrong!" I don't care. No, I think you're right. I'm right. I think you're right. That's my declaration. Yeah.
33:48 Speaker 01 Yeah. "Your type is dancing on my own." Damn, really? So "Your type" is my favorite song. Like, when she dropped it live, I literally, I like literally like moaned. Like, I was like, "Oh my god," I knew every word, like, "I'm not the type of girl for you, but I'm not..." "And I'm not going to pretend that I'm the type of girl you call more than a friend." "Yeah, I break all the rules for you. Break my heart and say, 'Come on, start again.'" "I'm not the type of girl you call more than a friend." What? "I'll make time for you." Time for you. "I'll make time for you." Okay, next. That was really good.
34:33 Speaker 01 Thanks, like we Let's get lost. Okay, um... I like this one. I like it. I liked it last night. Okay. It's good. Uh, it's just like, you know, it's, I, I, there is no filler on this. It's just not for me. But I know it's objectively really good. Is this too much for you? No, I'm honestly really enjoying this. I'm really enjoying this. Okay, LA hallucinations. That's what you think I'll like. So I didn't appreciate the song in full until last night. Trains are, he ropes up, rock, man, can't stop. So you get enough, there's a bleak back hole in my, oh, yeah. Are you poor? And I say, "Stop!" Like...
35:09 Speaker 04 Yes.
35:10 Speaker 01 She shouts out BuzzFeed like millennial queen. Like she's literally like-
35:14 Speaker 04 And TMZ crows.
35:15 Speaker 03 Shut up.
35:16 Speaker 01 And she's like, save me from these, I like hallucinations.
35:19 Speaker 03 Damn.
35:20 Speaker 01 And Max saves you from yours.
35:23 Speaker 03 So fucking true. He does.
35:25 Speaker 01 Oh my god, it's the best song ever. When it was, I was literally like-
35:28 Speaker 03 Okay, I wanna listen to this album.
35:29 Speaker 01 She's like, you're like, oh, okay, next, Manny, like, I'll let you take this one away.
35:34 Speaker 04 Warm Blood, literally best song ever made. It's amazing. It starts-
35:41 Speaker 04 It literally starts like that in, in an amazing way.
35:44 Speaker 03 Okay.
35:44 Speaker 04 The, the guy standing in front of us turned around and screamed, this is my favorite. And I said, this is my favorite. And then we clutched hands.
35:51 Speaker 01 I'm telling you, like, before you die, see Carly Rae Jepsen live. Emotion Part Three comes out in October. Do not be behind on the train. Do not make stupid decisions. I don't know how to explain it. Did she even do Call Me Maybe last night?
36:10 Speaker 04 No.
36:11 Speaker 01 Good. She doesn't have to.
36:12 Speaker 04 Oh wait, no, no, no, she did. She did, she did.
36:14 Speaker 01 Sorry, sorry.
36:15 Speaker 04 She did. It's because that was when I was getting merch.
36:17 Speaker 01 But no one came to see Call Me Maybe. You're like, oh, the Call Me Maybe girl? Put some motherfucking respect on her name.
36:25 Speaker 03 That's what you're doing right now.
36:27 Speaker 01 Don't cut a bit of this.
36:30 Speaker 03 You're, you're educating.
36:32 Speaker 01 Log off.
36:34 Speaker 01 Actually, don't.
36:37 Speaker 01 I, like, I, like-
36:40 Speaker 03 Carly Rae.
36:42 Speaker 01 My girl.
36:43 Speaker 03 Your girl.
36:44 Speaker 01 And by the way, not even that this is the point, but she looked fucking amazing last night.
36:49 Speaker 03 Love.
36:50 Speaker 01 Like-
36:51 Speaker 03 She saw the bangs?
36:52 Speaker 04 Yes.
36:53 Speaker 01 Of course.
36:54 Speaker 04 But she debuted a new hair color.
36:56 Speaker 03 Blonde or what?
36:57 Speaker 01 No, so Carly Rae is like, that's Manny's religion.
37:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
37:00 Speaker 01 Like, I didn't know she debuted, debuted a new hair color.
37:03 Speaker 03 Wow.
37:04 Speaker 01 And you know who else I recently got you into, Brett?
37:07 Speaker 03 Audrey Hobart?
37:08 Speaker 01 Well, that could-
37:09 Speaker 03 Don't even talk to me about her.
37:11 Speaker 01 No, like Manny?
37:12 Speaker 03 I love her.
37:13 Speaker 01 Manny, we congratulate-
37:14 Speaker 03 Manny, I've been listening to the album. It's all I've been listening to. And I know you've been-
37:18 Speaker 04 Literally, I'm sorry. Rivals emotion. It's close. It is close.
37:23 Speaker 03 Are you serious?
37:24 Speaker 01 They're different, okay? They're different. Audrey Hobart's is more... I relate more to Audrey Hobart's. Like, on a relate, relating level, like, I relate it.
37:34 Speaker 03 Once I real- Because sometimes I like, listen to songs and I don't like, listen to the lyrics, you know what I mean? So I'm like, not really, I'm just like, singing.
37:40 Speaker 01 No, yeah.
37:40 Speaker 03 Once you told me, like, the meaning of Sex and the City, I was like, oh, like, I get-
37:44 Speaker 01 Why I like it.
37:45 Speaker 03 Why you really do it. I think that-
37:48 Speaker 01 So Sex and the City is about going to a bar-
37:51 Speaker 03 You said it yourself!
37:52 Speaker 01 Not hooking up with someone and going to the new burlow.
37:56 Speaker 03 You fucking said it yourself! And I, and once you said it, I was like, oh!
38:01 Speaker 01 No, yes. I don't even watch Sex and the City, and that's on- Like, I, like, in the car, you know?
38:06 Speaker 03 Thirst Trap is probably my favorite, or Drive.
38:08 Speaker 01 I'm taking Thirst Trap's on-
38:10 Speaker 03 But like-
38:11 Speaker 01 The difference, and I will let it be known right now, between Audrey Hobart and Carly Rae Jepsen, Audrey Hobart is not underrated. Everyone is like, can universally agree, it is incredible.
38:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:22 Speaker 01 When emotion came out, no one knew. I ain't know. I ain't know. I ain't know. I had to be taught.
38:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:30 Speaker 01 Okay?
38:31 Speaker 03 Who introduced you?
38:33 Speaker 01 I, I follow a lot of music critics.
38:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:36 Speaker 01 On like, I like the Swiftologist, Will Talks Music.
38:39 Speaker 03 Yeah.
38:40 Speaker 01 Um, like, I follow a bunch of-
38:42 Speaker 03 But it was in college?
38:43 Speaker 01 Yeah, and one of them popped up on my TikTok, and they were like, "Where have you been?" And I was like, "Wait, what are they talking about? Because like, if you're telling me that there's some universally acclaimed pop album that I don't know about, like, I'm first in line. I'm cutting people in line."
38:56 Speaker 03 I will say, like, you've been an early adapter of a lot of, a lot of pop girls. Charli XCX, too.
39:03 Speaker 01 Okay, so, thank you. I technically was not early to Charli. I actually technically was late.
39:10 Speaker 03 But you were early for all of our friends.
39:12 Speaker 01 For everyone else.
39:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, you were early for everyone.
39:15 Speaker 01 Because I came to her for Crash, which was technically like, oh, you're hopping on. So before BRAT, she had Crash. And I really hopped on the Charli train during Crash.
39:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
39:25 Speaker 01 And everyone was like, oh, you're hopping on during Crash. Like, you're not a real angel.
39:30 Speaker 03 Who was saying that?
39:31 Speaker 01 Charli XCX fans. They're like, you like, like you weren't here. And they were right, I wasn't. But now I can say I was there for all the people that hopped on during BRAT. Sweating. But you know who recently I put you on to?
39:43 Speaker 03 Megan Brony?
39:44 Speaker 01 Yes.
39:44 Speaker 03 Yes.
39:45 Speaker 01 And how much do you love her?
39:46 Speaker 03 I am addicted to her.
39:48 Speaker 01 I really, she's, I mean, she's performing to 15,000 people screaming her lyrics, but I foresee her having like a Before He Cheats moment.
39:56 Speaker 03 I think so too. I mean, so many of her songs are so good. Like, "Indifferent" is so good.
40:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's banger after motherfucking banger.
40:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, um, "Hair Salon", whatever the hair salon was. I mean, amazing. And I, so I saw her at WeFest, this music festival in Minnesota, and it was awesome. And it felt so great to like actually know some songs. Cause then John Partey went on and I was like, I don't know any of these songs. Exactly. He only has one like banger, "Head Over Boots", and I was too drunk to even enjoy it.
40:26 Speaker 01 "Head Over Boots"?
40:27 Speaker 03 Yeah. I'm head over boots for you're the one I want.
40:32 Speaker 01 "Head Over Boots"? Oh, cause like "Head Over Heels"?
40:36 Speaker 03 "Head Over Heels".
40:36 Speaker 01 Clever.
40:42 Speaker 01 I'll give that one to you, Party John. What's his name?
40:46 Speaker 03 John Partey.
40:47 Speaker 01 He's John Partey. I'm sure he's great. Disclaimer, I'm sure he's great. Okay, should we take a break for a second? Like, maybe get some cool air, like dap our faces?
40:56 Speaker 03 Yeah.
40:57 Speaker 01 And when we get back, I'll tell you about my skincare routine.
41:03 Speaker 01 We are back.
41:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:04 Speaker 01 And as promised, I am gonna deliver my skincare routine.
41:07 Speaker 03 Okay.
41:08 Speaker 01 Um, and I have one recently. I've never had one before. Yeah.
41:12 Speaker 03 Tell.
41:13 Speaker 01 It's the Rode Pineapple Face Wash.
41:15 Speaker 03 Oh yeah, you're addicted. I really wanna try it.
41:18 Speaker 01 I have some.
41:18 Speaker 03 I'll try it.
41:19 Speaker 01 I have very sensitive skin, so every time I try, I'm not, this isn't an ad, so I just, I promised you my skincare routine.
41:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:27 Speaker 01 Um, and I've also bought the glazing milk, cuz I saw some men try it on TikTok and they were glowing.
41:33 Speaker 03 You're a road stan.
41:34 Speaker 01 I'm a road motherfucking stan.
41:36 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's great, it's great products.
41:38 Speaker 01 That's my skincare routine. Also, I've recently started using aftershave.
41:42 Speaker 03 How's that?
41:43 Speaker 01 It feels like when you take a mint.
41:45 Speaker 03 It's like cold, right?
41:46 Speaker 01 It's really cold.
41:47 Speaker 03 Yeah, Max uses it and it smells really good.
41:49 Speaker 01 It smells good, yeah, that's what everyone's saying. They love the smell of aftershave, so I guess I'm gonna start using aftershave.
41:53 Speaker 03 I love the smell of Max's aftershave.
41:55 Speaker 01 Right?
41:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
41:56 Speaker 01 Um, so I'm a little hungover from that Carly Rae talk, but I will say, we played her L.A. hallucinations.
42:02 Speaker 03 It was really good. Yeah.
42:04 Speaker 01 You need to listen to it in the car.
42:05 Speaker 03 But I, I also like wanna listen to like the album now. Like I wanna...
42:09 Speaker 01 Run to my fucking back.
42:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:11 Speaker 01 It's just like, each song is so good, it's sometimes hard to appreciate them individually all at the same time. You have to come to each song in your own over time.
42:21 Speaker 03 Okay.
42:22 Speaker 01 Does that make sense? Like, do you know what I mean?
42:24 Speaker 03 That's kind of like Folklore and Evermore.
42:26 Speaker 01 Clock it!
42:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:28 Speaker 01 That's why people, when Taylor put out TTPD, each song is objectively amazing.
42:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:32 Speaker 01 I don't care what you have to say. And each song is objectively amazing. It was so much music at once that it gave hate, like people, the opportunity to be like, meh, meh, this is bad.
42:43 Speaker 03 Yeah.
42:43 Speaker 01 Do you know what I mean? But it's not, actually.
42:46 Speaker 03 The TTPD hate pissed me off.
42:49 Speaker 01 Right, it was a tough day.
42:50 Speaker 03 Do you remember when you had your moment with Down Bad?
42:53 Speaker 01 Yeah.
42:53 Speaker 03 And we played it like, five fucking times back to back in the car.
42:57 Speaker 01 Cuz you come to the song when it needs you.
43:00 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:00 Speaker 01 You come to the song when it needs you.
43:03 Speaker 03 I really agree.
43:04 Speaker 01 The second you clock it, you're like, oh.
43:07 Speaker 03 Yep.
43:07 Speaker 01 One more time?
43:08 Speaker 03 Yep.
43:09 Speaker 01 One more time?
43:09 Speaker 03 Yep.
43:10 Speaker 01 One more time?
43:11 Speaker 03 Yep.
43:11 Speaker 01 And, uh, happened to be with Daddy I Love, But Daddy I Love Him, which, to this day...
43:16 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:18 Speaker 01 Top five. Actually, you know what? Let's have a little fun. I'm gonna give you my top five. I used to do top three. Let's go top five.
43:24 Speaker 03 Okay.
43:24 Speaker 01 Because I can give it to you.
43:26 Speaker 03 Okay.
43:26 Speaker 01 Number one, the archer, like.
43:29 Speaker 03 Yes.
43:29 Speaker 01 She's not moving.
43:31 Speaker 03 Yes.
43:31 Speaker 01 She's sat.
43:31 Speaker 03 She's your number one.
43:32 Speaker 01 She's sat.
43:33 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:34 Speaker 01 Number two, Daylight.
43:36 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:36 Speaker 01 Strong. I just, I can smell the subway. I can like, I remember the time of my life. Everyone was still social distancing on the subway, like.
43:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:46 Speaker 01 I was my first time back in New York from the pandemic. I could like, it just means so much to me.
43:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
43:50 Speaker 01 Number two, Daylight. Number three, But Daddy, I Love Him.
43:55 Speaker 03 Are you serious?
43:57 Speaker 01 Brett.
43:57 Speaker 03 I mean, the song's amazing.
44:02 Speaker 01 Like.
44:03 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:05 Speaker 01 I don't know how to talk about it. Like, that song to me is so in- important.
44:11 Speaker 03 It's so cinematic, you said.
44:13 Speaker 01 It's also the first time, Taylor's clapped back at critics, but Taylor's never been, never been like, "Some of you bitches are crazy."
44:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:21 Speaker 01 Do you know what I mean?
44:22 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:22 Speaker 01 And on But Daddy, I Love Him, she's like, "Stop."
44:24 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:25 Speaker 01 "I love him. I don't care. I don't care."
44:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:29 Speaker 01 Um, number four, Call It What You Want. Obviously, if you know me, you fucking know.
44:35 Speaker 01 Um, number five, Test the Damn Season.
44:37 Speaker 03 No 1989, your top five?
44:40 Speaker 01 I love 1989.
44:41 Speaker 03 I thought that's your favorite.
44:42 Speaker 01 It is, as a whole album.
44:43 Speaker 03 I understand.
44:45 Speaker 01 But these singles are my favorite songs.
44:49 Speaker 03 Okay.
44:49 Speaker 01 They are my favorite songs. And you can come here and you can tell me I'm wrong. I don't really give a fuck.
44:54 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:54 Speaker 01 That is my opinion.
44:55 Speaker 03 Yeah.
44:56 Speaker 01 And those are my top five.
44:58 Speaker 03 Okay.
44:59 Speaker 01 I'm trying to think. Yeah, I love 1989, but there's, do you remember my Out of the Woods face?
45:04 Speaker 03 Yes, of course.
45:06 Speaker 01 Every motherfucking day. Play it, play it, play it, play it.
45:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
45:12 Speaker 01 It was like the first time it was ever introduced to a bridge or something. I don't really know what happened.
45:16 Speaker 03 You know what? I remember so vividly of our Taylor drives in college is when we rediscovered This Is Why We Can't Have Nice Things. And we were driving down Hoover.
45:27 Speaker 01 It was just us two.
45:28 Speaker 03 We were driving down Hoover, going back to New Mansion, and we were like,
45:31 Speaker 01 This is why we can't have nice things. Dar. Ling. Ow.
45:39 Speaker 03 Because you break them.
45:40 Speaker 01 I have to take them away. This is why we can't have nice.
45:45 Speaker 03 Things.
45:46 Speaker 01 Huh?
45:48 Speaker 03 Nah.
45:48 Speaker 01 Oh, did you hear that? Oh, this is what I'm about to say. This is why we can't have.
45:55 Speaker 03 Nice things. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
45:59 Speaker 01 And you know when I really fell in love with that song?
46:01 Speaker 03 What?
46:01 Speaker 01 He closed out the rap tour with it.
46:04 Speaker 03 Yeah.
46:05 Speaker 01 Oh, you know what we didn't do, and people have honestly been asking me in my, when I did Sirius XM interviews, they were like, how are you going to celebrate album release day? We actually celebrate it every time. Usually Julia's here, she's not.
46:19 Speaker 03 Yeah.
46:19 Speaker 01 Maybe she'll fly out.
46:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, maybe.
46:21 Speaker 01 But we have a set plan every time. Brett, do you want to tell them what I, like, how we do it?
46:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, so, well, which one should we start with? Red?
46:32 Speaker 01 Okay, so I actually, I was, no, I was.
46:37 Speaker 01 I was not present, okay?
46:39 Speaker 03 Jake missed our Fearless Taylor's version. Listen.
46:42 Speaker 01 I regret it every day. I went to Brett's room and I said, are you fucking serious? And she said, I'm not talking to you.
46:49 Speaker 03 I was mad. Yeah.
46:52 Speaker 01 And then.
46:54 Speaker 03 We laugh about it now.
46:55 Speaker 01 And then, um, I said, I was in the Sirius XM thing, I was like, okay, so we'll do a Taylor workout class. And then I said, holy fuck, no, we won't. You have the marathon the following week.
47:05 Speaker 03 But for Red release night, because it's 9:00 PM Pacific, which is just like the biggest blessing of living in LA.
47:11 Speaker 01 Ever. Like, if you should move to LA for one reason, it's that.
47:14 Speaker 03 It's that. We don't stay up till midnight. But we did Shibuya for dinner.
47:18 Speaker 01 I think we should do Shibuya again.
47:20 Speaker 03 I think we should too.
47:21 Speaker 01 But we watched Miss Americana right before it drops.
47:24 Speaker 03 Oh, yeah.
47:25 Speaker 01 I would say we should put on the Eras Tour during the day.
47:27 Speaker 03 Yeah, we'll have the Eras Tour on all day. And then we, we filmed our reaction to All Too Ultimate version.
47:33 Speaker 01 Well, I, we, we, now we set up the camera for the whole thing.
47:35 Speaker 03 Yeah.
47:36 Speaker 01 And, no, let's like start out how we're gonna do it. We're gonna wake up.
47:40 Speaker 03 We're gonna wake up.
47:41 Speaker 01 And we're gonna go get our coffee from my, our favorite coffee place of the month. That is what we are gonna do. We also take the day off.
47:47 Speaker 03 Yeah.
47:48 Speaker 01 It's a holy day.
47:50 Speaker 03 Yeah.
47:50 Speaker 01 You have Sunday, we have that.
47:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
47:51 Speaker 01 Like, yeah. We, it's a very holy day for us. We'll wake up. Um, whoa, we've been talking about this for quite some time.
48:01 Speaker 01 We wake up.
48:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:02 Speaker 01 We, we're gonna go get coffee and we start listening to old stuff.
48:07 Speaker 03 Taylor all day.
48:08 Speaker 01 Back in the Taylor's version days, we would listen to the old albums to mourn.
48:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, and we'd be like, goodbye.
48:13 Speaker 01 Goodbye.
48:14 Speaker 03 Goodbye, yeah.
48:15 Speaker 01 Because unlike some of you, we only listen to Taylor's versions.
48:20 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:21 Speaker 01 When we were told.
48:21 Speaker 03 I would get upset if someone played a non-Taylor's version.
48:24 Speaker 01 Yeah, and then someone once accused me of doing a non-Taylor's version and I said, "Do you know me at all?"
48:28 Speaker 03 Wait, one time I was tagged in a girl who did Taylor's Song of the Day and it wasn't Taylor's version. I didn't notice, so I deleted it once I noticed.
48:34 Speaker 01 Can I say, "Hi," I would have done the same thing.
48:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, thank you, yeah.
48:39 Speaker 01 But we'll get coffee, we'll come home, we'll sit, probably have phone time for about three hours.
48:44 Speaker 03 Yeah, we'll, we'll need to do a lot to like pass the time.
48:47 Speaker 01 We'll do a pre-ranking, obviously.
48:49 Speaker 03 Pre-ranking, of course, and we'll post that for sure. And then it'll get closer to nine and we'll be like hyperventilating.
48:56 Speaker 01 We'll probably take a nap to pass the time.
48:58 Speaker 03 Yeah.
48:58 Speaker 01 Um, we'll go get dinner at Shibuya, probably have, we'll, we'll have to leave here at four.
49:02 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's traffic to the valley at that time. It's just diabolical.
49:05 Speaker 01 We'll go to Shibuya at five and then we'll get home and then we'll put on maybe like Rep Tour. No, I don't know if right before the new album drops, I wanna listen to old music.
49:16 Speaker 03 Yeah, we can take a break.
49:17 Speaker 01 That's when we do Miss Americana.
49:18 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay, yeah.
49:20 Speaker 01 And then it's album time.
49:22 Speaker 03 And you wanna know what I think is so special about the Taylor album releases? It's obviously the night of, but what's honestly even more special is the next fucking morning.
49:32 Speaker 01 Brad, I said that yesterday. I said that yesterday. When you wake up and you're like, "Oh."
49:37 Speaker 03 I have a full new album.
49:39 Speaker 01 To listen to.
49:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
49:41 Speaker 01 I have a whole new album. I have 12 new tracks.
49:44 Speaker 03 And something so special happened to me the day after Tortured Poets came out. I was on a fucking walk. I was in my era stuff and girls stopped me. They were like, "You listening?" And I was like,
49:52 Speaker 01 No, that's community. That's community. That's community. When I was...
49:59 Speaker 01 When I was on FaceTime with Brett and Julia and we were waiting for the announcement for
50:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:05 Speaker 01 For the life of the showgirl, life of a showgirl. This girl like came running up to me and was like, wait, you too? And I was like, bitch, me too.
50:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:12 Speaker 01 And like.
50:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:14 Speaker 01 It's community.
50:15 Speaker 03 It really is. It's gonna be really special. And it's really, I mean, it's far away, but it's also right around the corner. I think it's gonna get here sooner than we think.
50:22 Speaker 01 Girl, time, time makes you bolder.
50:25 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:26 Speaker 01 That didn't make sense.
50:27 Speaker 03 No. Time makes. You what?
50:30 Speaker 01 Time moves fast.
50:31 Speaker 03 Time moves fast as we get older, which is the scary thing. So, yeah.
50:36 Speaker 01 Should we get into the Tell Me What's Wrong's?
50:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
50:39 Speaker 01 Whoa. I like feel like I'm in a haze.
50:42 Speaker 03 The only thing is I didn't do my top five. Do you think people are gonna be like, oh, I wanna hear Brett's top five?
50:47 Speaker 01 Yeah, and you know what? That's on me.
50:50 Speaker 03 That's okay. We got carried away.
50:52 Speaker 01 Give it to them.
50:53 Speaker 03 Okay. Well, so here's the thing. Can I go on a little bit of a tangent?
50:55 Speaker 01 Please.
50:56 Speaker 03 Number one used to be Cruel Summer.
50:59 Speaker 01 Number one isn't Cruel Summer anymore?
51:01 Speaker 03 Let me, let me talk about it. It was Cruel Summer before the Cruel Summer Renaissance. And I am so happy that the song got the recognition it deserved because it is such an incredible song. But like, it was number one when it was like, like, if you know, you know. And like, it still is, but now it's like, almost like too, too basic to be my number one. You know what I mean?
51:25 Speaker 01 I get it.
51:26 Speaker 03 But it means so much to me.
51:28 Speaker 01 Right.
51:29 Speaker 03 Cruel Summer. So like, I'm wondering if I can like, like, put it with All Too Old to Minute Version.
51:35 Speaker 01 That's in your top, I mean, I understand. That's in your top five?
51:39 Speaker 03 No, no. All Too Old to Minute Version, I feel like it's its own entity with Swifties.
51:43 Speaker 01 A hundred percent.
51:44 Speaker 03 I feel like that's like an understood thing. It's like, our top five doesn't include All Too Old to Minute Version.
51:47 Speaker 01 It's not fair.
51:48 Speaker 03 Because it's not fair.
51:49 Speaker 01 No other song is 10 minutes.
51:50 Speaker 03 It's its own entity and it's like, everyone loves it if you're a true Swiftie, but it's like, it's own entity. So it's not taking a spot in the top five.
51:57 Speaker 01 Right. So what is your top five?
51:59 Speaker 03 Okay. So like, I don't know whether or not to put Cruel Summer.
52:04 Speaker 01 Just don't. You put it in a different entity.
52:06 Speaker 03 Okay, I put it in, so.
52:07 Speaker 01 But just know that it's number one.
52:10 Speaker 03 Okay, so I should do it as number one?
52:11 Speaker 01 I mean, it's obviously your number one.
52:13 Speaker 03 Cruel Summer, but again, before the Cruel Summer hype, for number two, I'm gonna go Delicate.
52:21 Speaker 01 Really?
52:22 Speaker 03 Just because, yes, because I've always really loved it, and it's really special to me and Max.
52:27 Speaker 01 Cute.
52:28 Speaker 03 And, um, he really liked it, and like, it, like, we both listened to it a lot in the beginning stages of our relationship, and then it was in his Spotify Rap Top 5. It was his number four song. Which made me like, literally melt. Yeah, yeah, all the time. He listens to Delicate all the time on his own.
52:45 Speaker 01 Oh, I'll kill myself.
52:46 Speaker 03 And Exile. He likes Exile. He only likes a few, like, really, like, a lot. He loves, he like, loves I Love Taylor, but the ones he listens to on his own are Delicate, Don't Blame Me, Exile, The One, um...
53:00 Speaker 01 I love The One.
53:01 Speaker 03 Whatever, I think that's it. Um, but anyway, okay, so, Delicate, three.
53:08 Speaker 03 Fuck, this is so hard.
53:10 Speaker 01 I know.
53:11 Speaker 03 Like, it's like, I feel like I'm gonna forget things, and like, um, but like, low-key for three,
53:20 Speaker 03 I think August.
53:21 Speaker 01 You love August, come on!
53:23 Speaker 03 I love August.
53:24 Speaker 01 Yeah, you've always loved August.
53:26 Speaker 03 I've always...
53:26 Speaker 01 I'm just trying to get comfortable.
53:27 Speaker 03 No, it's okay, you knew your thing.
53:30 Speaker 01 Keep going.
53:31 Speaker 03 Um, and then, number four.
53:33 Speaker 01 I think I'm sick.
53:34 Speaker 03 I think you're sick too. Um, and like, don't get me sick.
53:37 Speaker 01 I know, that's why I'm like, you hear it.
53:39 Speaker 03 I hear it. For number four, Style.
53:44 Speaker 01 Totally.
53:45 Speaker 03 I fucking love Style, I can't... I can't get enough of it.
53:51 Speaker 03 And then for number five...
53:55 Speaker 03 Fuck.
53:55 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's hard.
53:56 Speaker 03 It's just, it's so goddamn hard.
53:58 Speaker 01 Let me like, try to guess your number five.
54:00 Speaker 03 Yeah, do you wanna try to guess it? Cause maybe it's something I'm not even fucking thinking about. It feels sacrilegious to not put anything from Midnight's, bro.
54:10 Speaker 03 But it also feels sacrilegious to not put anything from Tortured Poets.
54:16 Speaker 03 Shit. Do I move style? No. Style needs to stay, because I love the pop.
54:23 Speaker 01 King of my heart?
54:24 Speaker 03 No, that's not, no. No. I think...
54:29 Speaker 01 Don't just do it to diversify the albums.
54:31 Speaker 03 I'm not. But I'm really thinking.
54:36 Speaker 03 And like, you know what?
54:40 Speaker 03 It might be Down Bad.
54:42 Speaker 01 Really?
54:43 Speaker 03 No, I don't know. Down Bad was really high up there in my Spotify Wrapped, and I like realized how much I love the song.
54:49 Speaker 01 Daylight? You love daylight.
54:52 Speaker 03 Honestly, yeah, daylight.
54:54 Speaker 01 You love daylight.
54:55 Speaker 03 Daylight.
54:55 Speaker 01 Okay.
54:56 Speaker 03 Yeah, okay.
54:56 Speaker 01 Tell me what's wrongs?
54:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
54:58 Speaker 01 I found a secret Twitter account my boyfriend has for watching spicy content. Should I be upset? We've been together for almost five years. And he made it in January. I want to bring it up, but I found it by snooping on his phone. Oh, so you like can't. When he was asleep, so he will definitely be upset about that.
55:13 Speaker 03 Okay, can I just say, I have only learned in the recent weeks that that stuff exists on Twitter.
55:18 Speaker 01 You didn't know about Twitter porn?
55:20 Speaker 03 No, I didn't know about Twitter porn. See, if you found it by snooping, like, it's like, I don't know. It's like, it depends. And like, you can't know, but like, I feel like
55:29 Speaker 03 for some guys, like, some porn is like normal. Like, watching porn is normal.
55:34 Speaker 01 I don't really...
55:35 Speaker 03 Like, I don't think it's something to be upset about, unless he's like, thinking about, like, watching it all the time.
55:39 Speaker 01 Well, maybe it's because I'm gay, but like, gay guys watch porn all the time.
55:42 Speaker 03 I feel like a lot of men in general watch porn all the time. I actually think it's like slightly an issue.
55:47 Speaker 01 It's an addiction.
55:48 Speaker 03 Yeah, but that's a topic for another time, but like, I don't know.
55:55 Speaker 01 Like, I obviously, like, ugh, it's just you can't be like, ugh, I snooed.
56:00 Speaker 03 You know what you should do, which is like, maybe this is toxic of me, but like, have him on Twitter? And then be like... Like, oh, what's your other account?
56:09 Speaker 01 Oh.
56:11 Speaker 03 Like.
56:11 Speaker 01 Be like, wait, can I show you this tweet?
56:13 Speaker 03 Yeah.
56:13 Speaker 01 Be like, I need to find this account.
56:15 Speaker 03 And then accidentally tap something and then be like, what's this?
56:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, because you can go through different accounts. Oh, that's genius, Brett.
56:20 Speaker 03 Thanks. Thanks.
56:23 Speaker 01 Wait, that's genius. And then he can't yell at you for snooping.
56:26 Speaker 03 I mean, I don't have a second Twitter, but I'm pretty sure it's probably just like Instagram and that like, there's like a, there's like a tap and like it switches. So that's what I would do, honestly. Sorry to be shady, but you gotta do what you gotta do.
56:37 Speaker 01 Yeah. We prescribe vigilante shit.
56:40 Speaker 03 That part.
56:41 Speaker 01 I went out with all my friends to Vegas for my 25th birthday. Long story short, I blacked out and my friends informed me that I lost all my money, like even some of my savings. Oh. And low-key made out slash dance with a male stripper at a club. Okay, well, that part sounds fun. I'm not single. I am not wealthy. How do I recover?
56:58 Speaker 03 Well, did you lose the money?
56:59 Speaker 01 Yes.
57:00 Speaker 03 I thought you just said her friends told her. Like, is it for sure gone?
57:04 Speaker 01 So she needs to check on that. And then, um, secondly.
57:10 Speaker 03 About the male stripper?
57:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, I would feel good about that.
57:14 Speaker 03 I think.
57:15 Speaker 01 But the first part, like, you know, like,
57:19 Speaker 01 there's been times where I, in college, lost all of my money.
57:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:23 Speaker 01 And like, I just had to like, take a few weeks off.
57:26 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:26 Speaker 01 And earn it back.
57:27 Speaker 03 And you would.
57:28 Speaker 01 And earn it back.
57:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:29 Speaker 01 Had a fun time. What's done is done.
57:31 Speaker 03 You would like, be like, I'm not gonna get coffee out, like, every day or whatever.
57:35 Speaker 01 Which is like, my mom will be like, that's not, like, that's bullshit.
57:38 Speaker 03 Or maybe you never, didn't get coffee out. Would you like, what, not get dinner?
57:41 Speaker 01 I would make my friends pay for me.
57:45 Speaker 01 I would make my friends pay for me.
57:47 Speaker 03 I would do it.
57:47 Speaker 01 Yeah. So just make your friends pay for you for a few weeks. And be like, and by the way, I'm not paying you back.
57:53 Speaker 03 Yeah.
57:55 Speaker 02 I also think the second part of that was that she's not single and she made out with the stripper. So she was like, cheated on her boyfriend.
58:01 Speaker 03 She's not single.
58:02 Speaker 01 Oh.
58:02 Speaker 03 That's why I'm like.
58:03 Speaker 01 Oh. Oh, okay. So I would address that differently. I'm so sorry. I'm such a bad listener. Um, yeah, so you're gonna have to let your boyfriend know.
58:13 Speaker 03 Yeah, you should let him know, but it's like.
58:15 Speaker 01 But you have to let them know.
58:16 Speaker 03 But it's like, like, are we sure your friends are telling the truth? Like, I'd be paranoid.
58:22 Speaker 01 I would never lie to someone about that.
58:24 Speaker 03 Yeah, but like, what if her friends are bad friends?
58:29 Speaker 03 Like, it's giving like, "You were so bad." You know?
58:32 Speaker 01 Ugh! I hate when people say that.
58:35 Speaker 03 I know, so I'm like-
58:37 Speaker 01 Even if I was, I get it.
58:38 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:39 Speaker 01 Okay, I understand.
58:41 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:42 Speaker 01 "You were so bad." "You were so bad last night."
58:46 Speaker 03 No, like, it's giving me PTSD.
58:47 Speaker 01 That is the most threatening- That is the most threatening sentence in human history.
58:51 Speaker 03 Yeah.
58:52 Speaker 01 Matt, Rogers, and Bowen Yang, if you're listening to this and you still have the, um... They have a category in The Lost Cultures of Swords for most threatening, like, sentence.
59:00 Speaker 03 That.
59:01 Speaker 01 You need to add that.
59:02 Speaker 03 Yeah.
59:02 Speaker 01 "You were bad last night."
59:03 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah. But I would maybe, I mean, I don't know, tell your boyfriend, yeah.
59:09 Speaker 01 "Call your girlfriend." Do you like that song?
59:14 Speaker 01 We're one in the same. "My roommate came home absolutely..." Oh, and also, obviously, you know what I'm gonna prescribe. One, two, three, wa-
59:24 Speaker 03 Huh?
59:25 Speaker 01 Wait, we're gonna prescribe waking up in Vegas.
59:27 Speaker 03 Oh, duh.
59:29 Speaker 01 "My roommate..." by Katy Perry. "My roommate came home absolutely obliterated one night. At 6:00 a.m. in the morning, my girlfriend woke me up to the sound of liquid streaming. She made me go check it out, and when I got to my door, there was a huge puddle. I opened my eyes, and my roommate was standing there, eyes closed, fully nude, and pissing on my door. He might sleepwalk or something, but how TF do I handle this situation? Look, so while your experience might sound unique, I've actually heard of this happening before."
59:55 Speaker 03 Yeah, me too.
59:56 Speaker 01 And some people just do that when they're drunk, and you might gotta whip out the old, "You were bad last night."
1:00:02 Speaker 03 So true! So fucking true, and like, "Clean up my door."
1:00:07 Speaker 01 Uh, yeah, "Clean up my motherfucking door."
1:00:09 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:00:10 Speaker 01 And thank God that pee is sterile.
1:00:12 Speaker 03 Yeah, yeah.
1:00:14 Speaker 01 Like, some people's kinks is peeing in each other's-
1:00:16 Speaker 03 Is pee sterile?
1:00:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, like, infamously.
1:00:18 Speaker 03 Really?
1:00:19 Speaker 01 Yeah. That's why people can, like, golden shower.
1:00:23 Speaker 03 Ew, uh, ew.
1:00:25 Speaker 01 "One of my friends can queef on command, and it used to be funny, but now she won't stop doing it." I'm not even gonna read the rest of this, because if my friend could queef on command, I would let them do it whenever they wanted.
1:00:37 Speaker 01 Next. Good for her.
1:00:40 Speaker 03 That's a fucking talent, I will say.
1:00:43 Speaker 01 I'm happy that she can queef on command. I think I might have, like, what does the rest say? Because I am curious. Like, she'll just randomly queef mid-convoy and it's starting to piss me off. How do I tell her to knock it off without sounding like a hater? Well, you're a hater.
1:00:59 Speaker 03 Ah, that is so funny.
1:01:01 Speaker 01 That is funny. I think I might have a god complex. I'm very independent, work for myself, and make enough money to live, and I'm in my early twenties. My friend group is all people still in college, so they have their bills paid for respectfully. However, there's a huge disconnect between us and my pride makes me scoff at criticism and boosts my ego to the point where I'm getting uncomfortable with it. How do I remedy this and come back down to earth?
1:01:25 Speaker 03 Wow, you are so self-aware.
1:01:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think, yeah. You are very self-aware, and like, that's the first step.
1:01:32 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:01:32 Speaker 01 So you're just too lazy to take step number two.
1:01:35 Speaker 03 What's step number two?
1:01:36 Speaker 01 Implementing what you've realized.
1:01:38 Speaker 03 Right.
1:01:38 Speaker 01 Because you've realized it.
1:01:40 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:01:40 Speaker 01 So, implement it.
1:01:42 Speaker 03 Right.
1:01:43 Speaker 01 I'm talking to myself, too, so I'm not just being harsh on you.
1:01:46 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:01:47 Speaker 01 But also, like, if you've got your bills paid, you're independent, you're twenty.
1:01:50 Speaker 03 Like, why do I not think?
1:01:51 Speaker 01 Good for you.
1:01:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, why do I, like, not think, like, have a god complex? Like, you should be proud of yourself.
1:01:57 Speaker 01 Agreed.
1:01:57 Speaker 03 Right?
1:01:58 Speaker 01 I agree.
1:01:59 Speaker 03 Yeah. Sorry, not to be, like, toxic, but like...
1:02:02 Speaker 01 No, I agree.
1:02:03 Speaker 03 You don't need to rub it in your friends' faces, but it's like, if you think it about yourself, like...
1:02:07 Speaker 01 Who cares?
1:02:07 Speaker 03 Who cares?
1:02:08 Speaker 01 I would prescribe Independent Women Part Two by Destiny's Child.
1:02:11 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:02:12 Speaker 01 I signed a lease with my best friend to move across the country together after college. While we were packing and she was already in the other state, my just-broken-up-with-ex-boyfriend, who I dumped because of distance, told me that they had hooked up numerous times while we were together. He just wanted me to know before living with her for full context. Now I hate them both, this happened a week ago, and I literally signed a twelve-month lease. What the fuck? First of all, you need to watch Tell Me Lies, naturally, because this happens.
1:02:35 Speaker 03 Immediately, yeah.
1:02:36 Speaker 01 But, like, not in the same sense, but in a similar one. I don't, can you break a lease? Can you break a lease?
1:02:45 Speaker 03 Like, no, but like, I think that's, that would warrant being like, fuck you to your friend, like, find a roommate.
1:02:55 Speaker 01 And I will put up ads too for the room, but like, I'm not living here.
1:02:59 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:02:59 Speaker 01 Agreed. I'm a 25-year-old grown-ass woman and my mom is still babying me. Same, but my dad. It was sweet at first, especially since we're close and have a good relationship. But now it's egregious and to the point where I'm worried about her satisfaction in her own life. What controversial pointers do you have for me to bring this up to her without hurting her feelings? Controversially, controversially?
1:03:22 Speaker 01 What's the harm? If it makes her happy?
1:03:25 Speaker 03 I feel like it depends what she's doing.
1:03:27 Speaker 01 What's she doing?
1:03:27 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:28 Speaker 01 Like, if she just calls you a lot, like, she's your mom.
1:03:31 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:32 Speaker 01 Like, it's okay if it makes her happy, like, and respectfully, at this point, I feel like she's at the age, like, if my kid came to me and was like, "How are you feeling in your own life?", I'd be like, "Excuse me?"
1:03:42 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:43 Speaker 01 Like, you know what I mean?
1:03:44 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:03:44 Speaker 01 And it's like, my dad babies me a lot too, and it's like, you just need to not baby yourself, and you need to like, I don't know, if it makes her happy, who cares?
1:03:52 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's a fine line of parents. Cause like, I, I like, I understand, maybe it's annoying, but it's like, something crazy about growing up and becoming an adult is like realizing like your parents are just human too.
1:04:03 Speaker 01 And they're just grown-up children.
1:04:04 Speaker 03 And they're just grown-up children, and so like, maybe it's just like that, maybe that makes her happy, and like, if she's like, like, if she's overstepping, like, then you can discuss boundaries in terms of like that, but like, if she's just like calling a lot, or like, wanting to treat you to stuff, like, just let her.
1:04:22 Speaker 01 Who cares?
1:04:23 Speaker 03 Yeah, let her.
1:04:24 Speaker 01 If she's like paying for your stuff, pay for your own stuff. Be like, "Hey mom, I'm gonna pay for my own stuff." I feel like I can.
1:04:29 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:29 Speaker 01 Be like, "Oh, so proud of you."
1:04:30 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:31 Speaker 01 I'm throwing my own 30th birthday party, and as silly as it sounds, I want a theme. I don't think that sounds silly at all. My friends tell me it's stupid to have a theme at 30, your friends suck. Much less throw my own party, I hate your friends. But fuck them, LMAO, agreed. So, nothing's really wrong, but help me come up with a theme, please. I like horses, yoga, Sex and the City, your podcast, thanks, etc. Obviously do a Sex and the City theme.
1:04:53 Speaker 03 Sex and the City.
1:04:54 Speaker 01 Look, I don't watch Sex and the City, but I recently found out that they're in their 30s for that show.
1:04:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:58 Speaker 01 And that seems correct.
1:04:59 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:04:59 Speaker 01 Do Sex and the City theme.
1:05:00 Speaker 03 I think do Sex and the City.
1:05:01 Speaker 01 And if your friend-
1:05:02 Speaker 03 Have Cosmos, yeah.
1:05:03 Speaker 01 Have Cosmos, dress up, and if your friends won't, they hate fun.
1:05:07 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:05:08 Speaker 01 They hate fun.
1:05:09 Speaker 03 That's something that like Max's friends, they love a theme, and like, I love that they love a theme.
1:05:13 Speaker 01 Hold on to your inner child.
1:05:14 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:05:15 Speaker 01 Hold on to the memories.
1:05:18 Speaker 01 They will hold on to you.
1:05:20 Speaker 03 Yeah, I needed a second.
1:05:23 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:05:23 Speaker 01 One of my friends, one of my friends is the worst time management ever. She stayed with me recently and every single event we were late because of her. Peyton, I hate being late. I love this girl to bits and we joke together about how bad at timekeeping she is and I always give her reminders on the day to help her stay in time. But she is still late and it started and it has started to piss me off recently. What can I do?
1:05:47 Speaker 01 Every friend of yours is, I've said it, is gonna have a fatal flaw.
1:05:50 Speaker 03 A fatal flaw, yeah.
1:05:51 Speaker 01 It's just your friend.
1:05:52 Speaker 03 Just like, don't go with her to things if it's gonna piss you off.
1:05:54 Speaker 01 You know what? The only thing you can do is, I'll meet you there.
1:05:57 Speaker 03 Yep, I'll meet you there.
1:05:58 Speaker 01 That's what Brett does. Brett wants to leave places early all of the time.
1:06:01 Speaker 03 Yep.
1:06:01 Speaker 01 And we used to bicker about it, but now she's like, hey, I'm just gonna drive separately and like,
1:06:05 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:06:05 Speaker 01 I'm letting, I'm like, I'm gonna leave early.
1:06:07 Speaker 03 And I'll leave when I want, yeah.
1:06:08 Speaker 01 Done. Next question.
1:06:10 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:06:10 Speaker 01 It's a fatal flaw. It's not worth ruining a friendship over.
1:06:12 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:06:13 Speaker 01 Honestly, and I think that's it.
1:06:16 Speaker 03 Okay.
1:06:17 Speaker 01 Brett, what did we learn today, but more importantly, what did you learn at 24?
1:06:22 Speaker 03 Ooh, okay, well, what did I learn today? Carly Rae.
1:06:25 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:06:26 Speaker 03 Obviously. I'm gonna go listen.
1:06:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, you have to.
1:06:29 Speaker 03 I actually, I actually will.
1:06:31 Speaker 01 Just the standard, do the standard for yourself at first. She has a lot of like deluxe. She has the B sides and she's doing the C sides in October, as I said.
1:06:38 Speaker 03 And then in terms of what I learned at 24, I think I did, well, to backtrack to 23, I did a lot of growth internally and on myself in 23, and then I think that really allowed me to flourish in 24.
1:06:51 Speaker 01 You had a great 24.
1:06:52 Speaker 03 I think I had a great 24 and um, I think that I just, I'm really proud of myself for like, the position I've put myself in with friends, with work, with like my relationship. Like, I'm just really happy with my life, which I think is, I'm very grateful. Because like, a few years ago, like, I was down in the dumps. Let me just tell you that.
1:07:17 Speaker 01 It was not good.
1:07:18 Speaker 03 It was not good. And so I just, I'm excited for this year and I think that it's also like, I really wanna like reassure people that like, it gets better post-grad.
1:07:29 Speaker 01 So much better.
1:07:30 Speaker 03 And like now I don't miss college at all.
1:07:32 Speaker 01 I don't miss college at all.
1:07:35 Speaker 03 Here's the thing, I miss aspects of college. Like, oh, like, a game day would be so fun, but like, I don't miss college.
1:07:42 Speaker 01 Neither do I. And like, honestly, I love my new room so much. And I would have never had that room in college.
1:07:50 Speaker 03 Exactly. We would have never had this house in college.
1:07:54 Speaker 01 We would have never done what we're doing in college. And I, yeah.
1:07:57 Speaker 03 Yeah.
1:07:58 Speaker 01 So, yeah. Well, Brett, I love you so much.
1:08:02 Speaker 03 I love you so much.
1:08:03 Speaker 01 Happy birthday.
1:08:03 Speaker 03 Thank you.
1:08:04 Speaker 01 We are gonna have the best weekend ever.
1:08:05 Speaker 03 Yay.
1:08:06 Speaker 01 Say a little bye pussies.
1:08:08 Speaker 03 Bye pussies. Love you.
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