Session 138: Max Greenfield

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• 0:02Speaker 00

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• 0:42Speaker 01

  Well, welcome to Therapists Max. Are you, I'm so excited. We've been hanging out every day this week.

• 0:47Speaker 02

  Should we just break down our?

• 0:49Speaker 01

  Our, we, our, our journey? Okay, well, why don't we start in Paris? We met in Paris.

• 0:54Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 0:55Speaker 01

  We then got dinner in Paris. And drinks.

• 0:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, we got dinner in Paris. I mean, it was such a whirlwind. Cause we, we met up, you met my daughter.

• 1:07Speaker 01

  Lovely. The best.

• 1:09Speaker 02

  She loves you.

• 1:10Speaker 01

  I love her.

• 1:10Speaker 02

  She's very conflicted about our relationship.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  Why?

• 1:12Speaker 02

  Well, cause she's like, I know that I only really met Jake because of you. But also now I want you out of the picture. Cause she wants to be, she just like wants to be.

• 1:22Speaker 01

  It can't happen. Max and I have hung out every single day this week. Every single day this week. Monday, we saw each other at the shards premiere.

• 1:28Speaker 02

  We're in a relationship.

• 1:29Speaker 01

  We're in a relationship. Like a proper one. Tuesday, we went and saw a play together. We saw Oh Mary.

• 1:35Speaker 02

  We saw Oh Mary.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  With Meg.

• 1:36Speaker 02

  Well, hold on, hold on. You're, you're going so far ahead.

• 1:38Speaker 01

  Okay, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry, go, go.

• 1:39Speaker 02

  You're going so far, okay. So we, you hung out with my daughter. And you were so generous with, with her and with us. And it was just, we had a great, great, great day.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  It was so easy, she was the best.

• 1:49Speaker 02

  It was so easy. And then I, I think we saw each other in the lobby of the hotel.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, we had a drink.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  And I was about to come out to New York to do some press. And I said to you, I was like, you know, I don't really, I haven't done this in so long. I go, what press is like, I was interested to ask you. And I had no, there was, I wasn't trying to like angle to do the podcast or anything.

• 2:09Speaker 01

  I know you weren't. Cause you were like, what should I do? And I was like, uh.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  I was like, what press is meaningful now? Because we have this movie and it fits into like a certain demo. And I felt old. And I was like, what do you think Jake? And you go, well, you should just do the pod. And I was like, oh, I hadn't even thought that was an option. I didn't know what your schedule was. And so you were like, no, no, no, just do it. And I was like, oh, now I'm gonna have to follow up. And then he's gonna blow me off. And I'm gonna feel so.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Quite the opposite.

• 2:36Speaker 02

  Quite the opposite. Then we.

• 2:39Speaker 01

  We hung out, we saw each other Monday night.

• 2:41Speaker 02

  Had a torrid love affair. Well, you went to Ibiza for a few days.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  No, I went to Mallorca.

• 2:46Speaker 02

  Lily and I were tracking your journey.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 2:49Speaker 02

  That whole time.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  And what'd you think?

• 2:51Speaker 02

  Well, she kept pulling me aside. And then you guys called me. Because thank God. Your girls were like, who's gonna be on the podcast? And what did they say?

• 3:03Speaker 01

  They said, schmitz!

• 3:05Speaker 02

  Thank you. And you went, and you went, who?

• 3:07Speaker 01

  No, that's not true. I FaceTimed Max and I was like, oh my God, like you have this cra-. They were like freaking out, dah dah dah.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  By the way, thank God. Cause I really needed this. Cause all throughout Paris, every time we hung out, 87 girls would run up to Jake and be like, oh my God, oh my God, oh my God, I love you, I love you. And then they'd look to the right or left and like, maybe one out of every five would go, oh, and I, I love you too.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  But.

• 3:35Speaker 02

  You're an international superstar.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  So then we went to New York. We both went to New York.

• 3:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, yes, okay.

• 3:42Speaker 01

  And we saw each other Monday night.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was random.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  Random.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  And I was wearing, I was wearing the sweater and you were wearing a yellow sweater.

• 3:48Speaker 01

  And I said, I'm always fucking with you. Even though I wasn't always fucking with him.

• 3:51Speaker 02

  We looked so good though.

• 3:52Speaker 01

  We did look good.

• 3:53Speaker 02

  I, Ryan Murphy gave me a hug and he goes, look at you. I think he called me like a banana cream pie or something. But he was so excited that you were there. And I was so excited to see him there. The show's great.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  The show's amazing.

• 4:05Speaker 02

  The show was so good. It was so sexy and fun and cool. And you came with who? Kaia?

• 4:12Speaker 01

  I came with Kaia. I was very lucky, it was Kaia's date. Well, actually no. Louis was Kaia's date. But I got to sit with Kaia at the premiere. So I felt very special.

• 4:20Speaker 02

  And then were you with Cindy as well?

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, the queen.

• 4:22Speaker 02

  The queen.

• 4:23Speaker 01

  The queen. The queen! And then, talk about amazing. We do have to talk about Netflix movie. Don't take a look.

• 4:31Speaker 02

  Hold on, you're jumping so far ahead. We've had a full week.

• 4:35Speaker 01

  I know, but I keep trying to get to the week and you keep being like, no, you're going ahead. But then you'll just take on.

• 4:40Speaker 02

  Okay, so Monday, we did, Monday, we did shards. And, and Monday, we did shards. And then Tuesday, we did Oh Mary with Meg Stalter.

• 4:48Speaker 01

  Which was amazing.

• 4:49Speaker 02

  Which was so great. And she was so incredible in it. And then I loved that she was like, hey, um, I wanna see you guys after the show. Come meet, come meet, come meet with us. Or meet with me and the cast, whatever. And then gave us directions. And she was like, just walk around the theater and meet us in the back. And so the two, we were like, okay. And so you and I walked around and I didn't know that around the corner meant like in the middle of Times Square. And I'm so, I was, I was happy that I was there. Because I thought you were gonna melt.

• 5:22Speaker 01

  I know. I didn't know, I think I was, was I high?

• 5:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  Okay. I was like, was I high?

• 5:28Speaker 02

  But we turned the corner and we're like in the middle of Times Square. And I just looked at you and you went like this. I can't.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't, I couldn't walk. I was like, I can't walk. You need to guide the way. I don't know where I'm going.

• 5:41Speaker 02

  And I just had to grab your hand and we like rushed off. That was great.

• 5:45Speaker 01

  Torrid.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Torrid.

• 5:48Speaker 02

  And then, and then we did some acting.

• 5:50Speaker 01

  Yes, and then I said, oh my God, well, you know what? I've hung out with him Monday, Tuesday. And I have this self tape that I really wanna get. And I'm like, might as well just ask Max if he can tape with me. And he came over yesterday and we hung out for two hours and you taped with me.

• 6:05Speaker 02

  You were so good.

• 6:06Speaker 01

  But you actually wanna know what really connected us at first? Is that you're from Dobbs Ferry. And I'm from Hastings.

• 6:13Speaker 02

  Oh my God, that's right.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 6:15Speaker 02

  You and Mark Zuckerberg.

• 6:17Speaker 01

  Mark Zuckerberg is not from Hastings.

• 6:19Speaker 02

  That's, that's what I've heard. Him and Ricky Lake. Pause.

• 6:23Speaker 01

  White Plains, New York.

• 6:24Speaker 02

  White Plains. By the way, that's, I feel like it changed.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Not that similar. That'd be me saying like, Mark Zuckerberg is from Dobbs Ferry. Oh no, he's from White Plains. It's not the same.

• 6:37Speaker 02

  Okay, so hold on. I know we talked about this. Did you go to Hastings High School?

• 6:41Speaker 01

  I went to Farragut Middle School.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  And then I went to Hillside Elementary School.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  Did you expect it to be this?

• 6:50Speaker 02

  I needed an audience, I needed laughs.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  I know. Well, right. Cause you've done single cam and multi cam sitcoms.

• 6:58Speaker 02

  Thank you for, see, look at you doing your research.

• 7:01Speaker 01

  I know!

• 7:02Speaker 02

  Oh my God, you did so much prep work.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  I did! Well, what's the, so in a, in a multi cam, is, there's a laugh track?

• 7:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes, well, usually do it in front of a live studio audience. Like, you know, they used to say like, this cheers is taped in front of a live studio audience. And then, you know, you would get, like when you, like, I did Will and Grace and you were at, and it is like a rock show. Cause everyone knows they're coming to Will and Grace. And everyone's in the audience and they're ready to laugh. And that's all real laughter that's on that show. But some shows use sort of a laugh track. Especially when you're taping without an audience, they'll just plug it in. Or you'll have, you'll bring in laugh, laughers, which is always, and you can, and you can sometimes tell. You're like, that was a real laugh.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  When you, like when you did The Neighborhood, could you tell?

• 7:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, every once in a while, you'd be like this. I got him, that was real.

• 7:50Speaker 01

  And so when you shoot a multi cam, do you not have to do multiple takes? Because it's all just happening?

• 7:57Speaker 02

  You do multiple takes, but you're rehearsing all week. And then you tape on, you know, a Monday and Tuesday and you're just doing scenes.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  So which do you prefer?

• 8:07Speaker 02

  Uh, I like, I like, I like, I like everything. It all depends. You know, you do anything long enough, you're like, I wanna do the other one. And then you wanna go back and you wanna go forth. But when you're doing it in front of a live studio audience, it's so much fun. We lost ours because of COVID. And then it was cost effective for them not to have it. So we didn't have it anymore. But when you're in front of a live studio audience and the writing's good and all the actors are clicking and you're in a good zone with everybody, it's the best.

• 8:34Speaker 01

  Sometimes my friends fake laugh at me and I know when they fake.

• 8:36Speaker 02

  You'd be great, you'd be great.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  On a, oh, I love being in front of a live studio audience.

• 8:40Speaker 02

  I know, I know. And you'd feed off it and like, it's, and even when sometimes the laughs were not real, I'd pretend they were. And I'd be like this, oh my God, I'm really funny today.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  Right. Is it true you were a spin instructor?

• 8:53Speaker 02

  I was for a minute, yeah.

• 8:55Speaker 01

  What was that like?

• 8:58Speaker 02

  Why did you ask it like that?

• 9:00Speaker 01

  Well, I just like can't, it feels very schmitz to be a spin instructor.

• 9:03Speaker 02

  Thank you, I made a video about it.

• 9:05Speaker 01

  You did, you also, well, do people know about the Hills video you made?

• 9:08Speaker 02

  Oh my God, the Hills video I made is, everyone should know about the Hills video I made. It was the first season of New Girl. And I was so happy to be on a TV show. And I loved the character so much. And I was just like, I'm gonna go the opposite route of like being worried about being pigeonholed in like a role. I was like, I'm, I'm gonna pigeonhole myself into this role. And I went and filmed this crazy dating profile video.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 9:39Speaker 02

  That was me.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  I've seen it.

• 9:41Speaker 02

  Yes, I showed it to you. I was really proud to show it to you.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  I was really, it was amazing. It would look just like the Hills.

• 9:45Speaker 02

  It was shot for shot, the theme of the Hills, um, with me and only me in it.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  And some drone footage?

• 9:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, and some drone footage. And, and me, actually, I don't know how we got that footage. But, um.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  I was, that was my first question. You were like, we shot this in a day. I was like, where did the drone footage come from?

• 10:02Speaker 02

  I think we like got up on, on the route, on like, on like a hill on the PCH and filmed it. It was crazy.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  It was great.

• 10:10Speaker 02

  I was young, I had so much energy. I did, I was on, I didn't do, I should repost it.

• 10:14Speaker 01

  Repost it.

• 10:15Speaker 02

  Well, you should post it.

• 10:17Speaker 01

  Please, yeah, I'll post it.

• 10:17Speaker 02

  But, uh, so then, so then we made, and I remember there was like an issue with, with like the studio where they were like, we have to pay for the Kylie Minogue song. And, and I was like.

• 10:27Speaker 01

  You mean?

• 10:29Speaker 02

  I screwed up. Who was it?

• 10:30Speaker 01

  Natasha Beddingfield.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, Natasha Beddingfield. Okay, I'm sorry. The studio was like all up in arms because they had to like then pay for the Natasha Beddingfield song.

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Were you a Hills watcher?

• 10:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:43Speaker 01

  Who's your fave?

• 10:45Speaker 02

  Who was my fave? I don't know, I just, I like watched it with Tess, my wife.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  Who's the best.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Who loves you.

• 10:54Speaker 01

  I love her.

• 10:54Speaker 02

  I liked Conrad in the beginning.

• 10:56Speaker 01

  You got sick of her, huh?

• 10:58Speaker 02

  I didn't know if I got, I think I got sick of the show, really.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  But you know the best scene?

• 11:02Speaker 02

  Well, my favorite scene, the scene that Tess and I will like do bits off of is like, you know what you did!

• 11:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I wanna forgive you, but I wanna forget you.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  Here, this is the audition.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 11:17Speaker 02

  You know what you did, go.

• 11:22Speaker 01

  I don't want to. And then, but you know, what's the other one? Was it, "You'll always be known as a girl who didn't go to Paris."

• 11:29Speaker 02

  This was like the, the exercise we did at dinner. Where Tess and I cornered you and you were talking about like, "You have to be in a position where if you like a guy, you need to say to him like, 'Hey, are you, are you single?'"

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Oh my God, I forgot we did this. Oh my God, you guys made me go on a fake date at dinner.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  I know.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  With like the air.

• 11:47Speaker 02

  But then it, but then like, okay, but like, I think it's interesting. I think we should do it again.

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  All right.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  Okay. So I'm the guy. I'll, I'll play the guy.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 11:57Speaker 02

  We're having a good time. We're vibing, everything's, and I have, and I'm using my mic in the proper way. You're like, "Oh my God, this guy's really good with the mic."

• 12:03Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  And now, all of a sudden, you're like, "Ah, I really like this guy." Like, "Maybe, maybe there's something more here." And I'm gonna have to now ask him, "Are you single?"

• 12:13Speaker 01

  Oh my God.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  Okay, here we go.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  They made me do this at dinner in front of like, okay.

• 12:22Speaker 02

  It was in front of no one. It was me and Tess.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  It was in front of no one. Okay.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  Are you?

• 12:33Speaker 02

  Why are your eyes closed? Are you okay? Why are you, are you asleep?

• 12:35Speaker 01

  Because I'm getting into character.

• 12:36Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought you were sleeping.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  Okay, well. Are you single? That wasn't horrible.

• 12:42Speaker 02

  That was pretty good.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  Right? That wasn't horrible.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  Okay. Yeah, why?

• 12:47Speaker 01

  I don't want to play anymore.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  You, you got enough out of me.

• 12:53Speaker 02

  That was good. At dinner, it was, it was wild.

• 12:56Speaker 01

  Was I even drunk?

• 12:57Speaker 02

  I don't know, but you, well, by the way, it was like hour three at that dinner. And we both were like, you, you at some point were like this, "I gotta go. I gotta get back to my computer." At some point, I looked up at Tess and I was like, "We should wrap it up." And she goes, "Why?" And I go, "What?" I go, "We're, we're in trouble."

• 13:10Speaker 01

  You know, I, I wasn't on my phone. I wasn't on my computer. I was starting to sweat. I was like, I, I'm...

• 13:16Speaker 02

  I was like, "We're gonna be here forever."

• 13:18Speaker 01

  We shut the restaurant down and then some people tried to come and go into the restaurant. I said, "Honey, it's closed."

• 13:25Speaker 01

  So when you booked New Girl?

• 13:27Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  Well, did you have, were you like, "Oh, this is gonna be great. It has Zoe De Chanel," like?

• 13:33Speaker 02

  I had auditioned for so many different movies, or I'm sorry, TV shows. And, not movies.

• 13:41Speaker 02

  And, uh, and gotten close on so many. And you know Tess was a, is a longtime casting director and casting executive. And so we were like really, I don't know, connected to the business in a way. Where we sort of knew what shows had more of a shot than other shows and which ones felt significant. And New Girl was one of those. And I could not believe that it was happening. And I felt, because you know you, Liz Merriweather was a, who is an extraordinary writer. But she was a really hot writer. Jake Kasdan was directing the pilot. He was a very cool director and had a lot of like power at that time.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  It was, Zoe was like a movie star doing TV, network TV.

• 14:31Speaker 01

  Which was huge at the time.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Which was, yeah, especially comedy was like not happening. And so we felt so lucky to be a part of that show. I remember like Jake and I were the first two cast after Zoe. And, I mean, we would call each other, because we then had to then, we, we then auditioned, I, I don't know, 4,000 people for Lamorne's role.

• 14:57Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 14:57Speaker 02

  And I had experienced this before where, and it wasn't me, but I've seen it, where like you all of a sudden are doing chemistry reads with other actors. And at some point, somebody goes, "You know, maybe it's the other two guys and it's not the guy we can't find. And maybe we need to switch this whole thing."

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Oh, so did you freak out?

• 15:17Speaker 02

  And so I was worried I was gonna get fired, because they were seeing so much of us, because we were auditioning with so many different people for Lamorne's role. And so Jake and I would call each other and we'd be like this, "Make sure like you don't wear the same, like, like us with our yellow sweaters."

• 15:31Speaker 01

  Right, of course.

• 15:31Speaker 02

  I was like, "Don't wear the same thing." Because at some point, they might be like, "Maybe they're too similar." Or like this or that.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Right, right, right.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  And so we would call each other, we'd like outfit coordinate. And like, it was so wild and stressful and crazy. But, well, then we got, Damon came in. We did the pilot with Damon, who we all knew, who was like, "Oh my God." But he wasn't really available, because he was doing this other show, Happy Endings. They thought maybe that show would get canceled. It did not. And so then he had to go and then Lamorne came in, in episode two.

• 16:00Speaker 01

  And both of your names are Winston.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, we discovered that much later.

• 16:05Speaker 01

  I was like...

• 16:06Speaker 02

  What did you watch, all of the, did you?

• 16:08Speaker 01

  No, I watched a good amount of it. I watched it when it was on TV. And then I was like, I, I, I never watch, I, like, I, I go through periods where I'm like, I'm watching about, like, right now, I'm watching a lot of sci-fi.

• 16:21Speaker 02

  What are you watching?

• 16:22Speaker 01

  Silo.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Is it good?

• 16:27Speaker 01

  I'm like, it's fine.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  I like that you said, "I'm watching a lot of sci..."

• 16:32Speaker 01

  Like, I don't know what's going on right now.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  What are you watching? Silo.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  Because it's like, it's like, okay, well, I mean, okay, then I'm gonna go back to New Girl. But like basically, season one, you're like, "Ooh, what's going on?" The end of season one, you're like, "Oh, okay." Season two, you're like, "Okay." The end of season two, you're like, "Oh shit, okay." And now season three, you're like, "Okay, let's get there."

• 16:56Speaker 02

  When we talk about Don't Say Good Luck, because at some point, we're going to.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  I tried.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  I, let's, we can, we can do it now. I want a review like that.

• 17:06Speaker 01

  It was the best movie I've ever seen in my life.

• 17:08Speaker 02

  Only using the word, "Okay."

• 17:10Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  Take me through the whole movie, using only the word, "Okay."

• 17:14Speaker 01

  When I started Don't Say Good Luck,

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 17:16Speaker 01

  I was like, "Okay."

• 17:20Speaker 01

  And then waitress got involved, which is, and I loved the song, "She Used To Be Mine." So I was like, "Okay." And then there was a little bit of a cancer. And I said, "Okay. Okay, when's the needle drop gonna happen with She Used To Be Mine?" And then the needle drop happened with She Used To Be Mine. And I said, "Okay." And I was sobbing. Also, when the mom was at the kitchen table, or the grandma was at the kitchen table screaming at Sonny, I was like, "Oh my, okay, like fuck." It was amazing, it was amazing. I called you right after. I sent you photos of me crying. Alex watched it, he sobbed. It was, it's amazing. It's amazing, it's actually amazing.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  That was the best review of anything I've ever been in, in my entire life.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  It's amazing, like, it's, to me, it feels really like, it feels like one of those movies where I was like, "I want to watch it again." And I don't feel that way about movies, ever.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  I know, it's like, it's, it's, I thought Julie Hart, who directed the movie, did such a good job. And it really is one of those movies where you just feel it. And Sonny is so...

• 18:24Speaker 01

  Sonny's a star.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  Let's talk about Sonny.

• 18:27Speaker 01

  Sonny is a star.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  Right?

• 18:29Speaker 01

  She can sing, she can act.

• 18:31Speaker 02

  That's all live, too.

• 18:32Speaker 01

  I, I could, I was, I couldn't, I was, I was about to say I could tell, but like, it could have not been live and I wouldn't have been able to tell.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  I wouldn't have known either, but like, I was on set and I watched it and it was like a, like, I didn't, I don't know these things.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  Oh, she sang that live, like, to the camera?

• 18:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  Oh, so she can really sing?

• 18:47Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 18:49Speaker 02

  Because I remember getting there and then being like, and, and it was a big deal. Because they were like, "Sonny's gonna sing all the songs live." And I was like, "What does that mean?"

• 18:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 18:57Speaker 02

  And they were like, "She's actually gonna sing the songs like on camera." And I go...

• 19:00Speaker 01

  And that's a hard song to sing, by the way.

• 19:03Speaker 02

  For us.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  Right. Best song ever, by the way. Are you, do you like theater? Oh yeah, we went to theater, but like, are you a theater guy? No, but like, do you like, do you go a lot? Like?

• 19:15Speaker 02

  Theater?

• 19:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  Uh, not as much of that. I mean, if I lived in New York, I would go a lot more.

• 19:20Speaker 01

  Would you?

• 19:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, of course.

• 19:22Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  But now I only go to shows with you.

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Okay, I will only go to shows with you. Or my mom.

• 19:28Speaker 02

  Okay, then, okay, all right, I feel like that's fair.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  That's fair.

• 19:31Speaker 02

  Okay. And if I find out you go...

• 19:33Speaker 01

  I won't go with anyone else.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  If you go with Glenn Powell.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, I won't go with anyone else, only you.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  I'm gonna be furious.

• 19:40Speaker 01

  No, I, and I know you will too.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, and I'll find out.

• 19:43Speaker 01

  And I know you'll find out.

• 19:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Do you know how high I got yesterday? When we did the self-tape? Because in this, okay, in the self-tape, it says, "He's smoking a joint." I'm like, "Never have I ever been able to get high for an audition. I'm gonna get high for this audition." And by the end of it, I was like, "All right." Like, do you remember how stoned I was?

• 20:06Speaker 02

  Well, you were like this, "Should I smoke for this?" And I was like, "I mean, you can." And you were like, "I think I'm gonna smoke." And I was like, "Yeah, go for it, do your thing." And then you're like, "Do your thing."

• 20:18Speaker 02

  Smoking, doing another. And then, I don't think you were prepared for like, how many takes I was about to make you do.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  No, but I never taped, I don't think I can tape with anyone else ever again. Because your wife is a casting director, so you're like, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no, no. And I was like, oh shit.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  That's what she does with me, it's no joke.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Well, that's why I felt so comfortable with you, because I was like, oh my god, I can only imagine what Tess puts you through.

• 20:40Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 20:41Speaker 01

  When you're taping, so like, you get it.

• 20:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally, totally, but like, at some point, you stood up and you were like this, oh, I'm fucking high.

• 20:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was out of my mind.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  You were so good, though.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  Well, let's hope I get it.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  You were so good, I mean, he was supposed to be smoking throughout the whole thing, so like, whatever.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  Whatever, you know what's funny, is how you replaced one of the characters in the pilot episode, because he had to do happy endings. You replaced someone in the neighborhood, did you not?

• 21:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, they were gonna make the pilot, or they were gonna make the series. They'd shot the pilot, and they were replacing two of the actors in the, in the show. But, you know, they had come to me very early on for that show.

• 21:25Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, oh.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  And I was not, I just wasn't in a space where I was gonna do it, and, and then they were like, we're making the show. And they sent me the pilot, and I watched the pilot, and I was like, this is really good. And, and I knew Cedric a little bit, and we had some mutual friends, and so we met, and he was so great. And like, really had a handle on what the show was about, and what he wanted to do with the show. And it just sort of, at that point, felt like, this is a brand new adventure, and like, the multicam of it all.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  I was about to say the multicam.

• 22:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, I thought it was cool, and also, like, that schedule is incredible, because you're rehearsing all week, you're not like, you know, we're just waiting for the lighting to get set up.

• 22:10Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 22:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, and so like, you know, there are days where you'll go in for like, four hours. And with my kids, at the age that they were, I was like, this is perfect, and if this runs, it's incredible. And so like, you know, I was at every one of Lily's volleyball games, I would pick up my son, I would drop him off.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  Well, Lily just made varsity.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Big time, baby, let's go.

• 22:29Speaker 01

  She was libero, I was libero, me and Lily have a lot in common.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  Will you coach her?

• 22:35Speaker 01

  No, I was terrible. So, no, I can't teach Lily, Lily how to play volleyball.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Okay, well, she made varsity, it's a big deal.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's libero, I was libero for a week. I was a mess, a mess. What were you like in high school? Well, I know you graduate, well, you didn't graduate, you, you graduated high school, but you were in Wisconsin, and you had a 1.0 GPA.

• 22:58Speaker 02

  It would be nice if that was that high. It was a .067.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  Shut, how is that possible?

• 23:06Speaker 02

  Too much glug, glug, glug.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Right?

• 23:08Speaker 02

  Right.

• 23:09Speaker 01

  But like, I drank four times a week in college, and I was cumulante. Did you have fun?

• 23:15Speaker 02

  You had a lot of fun.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  Madison, right?

• 23:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Were you in a frat?

• 23:19Speaker 02

  For a year, and it was wild. It was, that was, we call that the forgotten year.

• 23:27Speaker 01

  Oh, I have those. Sometimes I think I'm in it now, I'm like, uh, I don't remember what I did last week.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  What was your forgotten year?

• 23:37Speaker 01

  My forgotten year was my freshman year of college.

• 23:39Speaker 02

  You're like, 98.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  No, my forgotten year was my freshman year of college, and...

• 23:45Speaker 02

  USC, right?

• 23:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, and senior year was pretty forgotten. I mean, I used to blackout like nobody's business. Have you ever, has that ever happened to you?

• 23:53Speaker 02

  Too many times, so many times, that many people, including myself, had to realize, there was a problem.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, you know, I think I have one too, and it's really just, I'll get there, one day, I will. I mean, I tried to quit smoking weed, I quit for nine months, went back on the, went back on that. Alcohol, I don't think, I can't get through a social situation without it.

• 24:19Speaker 02

  I mean, that's not good.

• 24:25Speaker 01

  I can't, I literally can't, I'm like, literally, like, I can't, like, uh.

• 24:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, that's called dependency.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  I mean, the alternative is you just like, get through it, which is sometimes so much worse.

• 24:43Speaker 01

  No, you have to, I have to, I have to drink.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  I mean...

• 24:46Speaker 01

  Every time before a date, two shots.

• 24:48Speaker 02

  Well, you were at that dinner, at some point, I looked at you, and I was like, and you go, we were there for 800 hours each time.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  And you said this so sweetly, I was like, I had so much empathy for you, but at some point, you just went,

• 25:01Speaker 02

  I have to get back to my computer.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  I love, I need my computer, you guys don't understand, I can't text on my phone. I cannot text on my phone, the keyboard moves too slowly for my hands, so I need to be on a computer, texted. And so if I don't get to my computer, I can't respond to all the texts that I've missed all day, I miss every text, every text. I have to respond on my computer, I'll be in a group chat, my friends will be like, are you on your computer? I'm like, yes.

• 25:26Speaker 02

  I have that same thing, I don't, it's not a computer thing, but like, there are just, there are, there are times where I can sit, and like,

• 25:34Speaker 02

  I have to be in the right space to really like, address all the emails and texts.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  Oh, emails.

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Do you, do you know what that is?

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Sometimes.

• 25:46Speaker 02

  You said, oh, emails, hmm.

• 25:49Speaker 01

  Because I'm like, I'm not like, sitting there, I'm not like, sitting there responding to emails.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  How many unread emails do you have on your phone?

• 25:55Speaker 01

  Do you really want to know?

• 25:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:57Speaker 01

  I think it's, last time I checked, it was, I think it was like, 50,000? But mind you, it's like, a bunch of like...

• 26:06Speaker 02

  I know, it's a bunch, it's hard, it's hard.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  It's like spam, okay, I'll tell you right now, how many, well, I'm not on my spam account, so, 21,000. And that's not with my spam. My spam is like...

• 26:16Speaker 02

  Is it bad that I'm like, that's so bad?

• 26:19Speaker 01

  And then you unread texts?

• 26:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, what's your texts, that's bad, because texts are...

• 26:25Speaker 01

  792.

• 26:26Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 26:30Speaker 01

  I'm a hard guy to reach sometimes, what can I say?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  I feel so flattered that you responded to my texts.

• 26:34Speaker 01

  I responded very quickly to you.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Because I'm like, Max texted me, and we're on a week-long playdate, that's never gonna end. When are you flying back to Paris?

• 26:42Speaker 02

  Tonight.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  No.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  I know.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  I'm really gonna miss you.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  I, I mean, at some point, I said to you, I texted you, I was like, how are we gonna say goodbye?

• 26:50Speaker 01

  I don't know, you guys, we spent every day of this week together, everyone's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I'm with Max.

• 27:00Speaker 01

  You've had some pretty famous guest stars on New Girl.

• 27:09Speaker 01

  Taylor Swift.

• 27:11Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  Prince.

• 27:13Speaker 02

  Right, but, I mean, Prince, yeah.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  Prince is pretty crazy.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  We can stop the list right there, because everybody...

• 27:20Speaker 01

  How did Prince happen?

• 27:23Speaker 02

  Prince was crazy.

• 27:27Speaker 02

  So, we, we got the slot after the Super Bowl, and Fox was like, it's gonna be you and the show, Brooklyn Nine-Nine. And, and Fox was like, we need to elevate those episodes, you gotta get like, a great, like, some sort of guest star on the show, but like, our big one. And Brooklyn Nine-Nine has Andy Samberg, and all these connections to SNL, and they were like, do you want Adam Sandler? Or, uh, Will Ferrell? And I think they ended up with Will Ferrell, maybe, like, they, they had like, a list of people that they could get to in a heartbeat, and I think Andy put a, and they were like, great, we have Will, or some, something like that. And Liz Merriweather was like, you know, has connections to like, the theater world, and was like,

• 28:10Speaker 02

  is Anthony Rapp like, a good get? And so she was sort of like, I don't know what to do, and somehow,

• 28:19Speaker 02

  we found out that Prince was a fan of the show.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  And I don't know how it happened, but they reached out to Prince, and Prince was like, yeah, I'll do it. And we were like, he's never gonna show up. And till the minute that like, we were on set, and like, there were marks on the ground, we didn't know if he was gonna be there. And then all of a sudden, at like, midnight, he just comes.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  And you're like, oh.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Did just like, could you hear a pin drop?

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Yes, and you're like, that's Prince. It was wild. And then he like, wrote a song for the show, that he, he was, it was supposed to be a party at his house, and he was, he had said that he should be DJing the party, and so he was up on DJ, because he didn't want to like, perform the song. But he's playing the song, and then, the conceit of the scene was then, Zoe jumped, this is like, the end of the episode. Zoe jumps up on the stage, he invites Zoe up on stage, and they're like, they're grooving out to the song, and then she calls up all her friends,

• 29:22Speaker 02

  us, and so then we jump up on the stage, and I remember, like, before they called action, I said to myself, I was like, this'll never happen again.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 29:31Speaker 02

  So, like, forget about the scene, forget about the show, forget about your character, like, any of that stuff. I go, you're just gonna jump up on stage, and be with Prince, and see what happens. And so, they call action, and I run up on stage, I jump up, and I was like, the closest to the DJ booth, which is where he was, and I look over at him, and, you know, I'm dancing.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:57Speaker 02

  And I look over, and he looks at me, and he looks at like, me dancing, and I could see, he's like, man, this guy is...

• 30:05Speaker 01

  Really feeling it?

• 30:06Speaker 02

  This guy's right on, man.

• 30:07Speaker 01

  Were you like, just so in the moment?

• 30:10Speaker 02

  I don't even remember, I just was like, letting myself move, man.

• 30:15Speaker 02

  Which was humiliating, but he could tell, and he was just like, alright, man. And like, I could see, like, he almost sort of felt bad for me in a little bit.

• 30:24Speaker 01

  No, he didn't.

• 30:25Speaker 02

  I think he did a little bit, but no, he was so kind, and he was so great, and I just, I'll never forget that. It was just like, one of these moments where you're up there, and he's looking at you, and you're like, that's fucking Prince, man. It was so crazy.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  That is one of the craziest guest star stories I've ever heard.

• 30:43Speaker 02

  It was crazy, and then we...

• 30:44Speaker 01

  That, Taylor, Taylor Swift.

• 30:46Speaker 02

  Taylor, and, but like, Taylor wasn't quite yet...

• 30:50Speaker 01

  Taylor.

• 30:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, and, but I remember, she was on set, we were hanging out, and she was so kind, and she was so, she was like, a better actor than all of us. And I remember,

• 31:04Speaker 02

  asking her, I said, can I ask you a question? She was like, yeah, sure. And I go, if you could play like, to an intimate audience, or a big arena, like, what do you, what do you prefer? And she goes, without missing a beat, she goes, if you could fill the ocean with people, I'd like to play for that. And I went.

• 31:27Speaker 01

  You're lying.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  I mean-

• 31:29Speaker 01

  That is the most incredible response I've ever heard.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  It was-

• 31:33Speaker 01

  Because she did that.

• 31:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. Which, where'd you go, where'd you see it?

• 31:37Speaker 01

  I saw it three times in LA and I saw it once in Vegas.

• 31:40Speaker 02

  We were probably at the same show.

• 31:41Speaker 01

  Were you in LA?

• 31:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, I went to the Friday night.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  Mm-mm. I was Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday.

• 31:46Speaker 02

  What were your secret songs? Or surprise, surprise songs?

• 31:49Speaker 01

  I got New Year's Day, I got New Romantics, I got Our Song twice, I got Our Song in Vegas.

• 31:54Speaker 02

  Oh, you got New Year's Day?

• 31:55Speaker 01

  It was unbelievable.

• 31:57Speaker 02

  That's my favorite song.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  I got Dress.

• 31:59Speaker 02

  New Year's Day is my favorite song.

• 32:01Speaker 01

  Unbelievable. What do you love about New Year's Day?

• 32:02Speaker 02

  I listen to it every morning. It makes me cry.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  New Year's Day is your favorite Taylor Swift song?

• 32:07Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  When I first heard New Year's Day, because I remember being-

• 32:11Speaker 02

  What is it, there's glitter on the floor after the party?

• 32:13Speaker 01

  Please, please, please. Like, you don't under, like-

• 32:17Speaker 02

  After the po- I got him, I don't think-

• 32:19Speaker 01

  There's glitter on the floor after the party. Girls clean their shoes down in the lobby. Candle wax and Polaroids on the hardwood floor. You and me forever.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  Oh my god, we can't, I'm gonna call, I'm gonna call it the job, I can't go back. We're gonna spend this week together too.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  We have to. Don't we? The last page.

• 32:45Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm gonna start crying, I don't wanna do it.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  It's the best song ever, because I just remember the marketing of that album being so harsh and like very, because it was-

• 32:53Speaker 02

  You have to pay for the rights for that, no?

• 32:54Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no. The, the marketing of Reputation was very much like, like harsh and volatile and like, she's like angry and then you have this beautiful love story on the album being told through this anger and it ends in that song and it's just, it's a, it's one of the best albums of all time.

• 33:12Speaker 02

  That song crushes me. Um, we got, we got Our Song and, um-

• 33:16Speaker 01

  Oh, so we were on the same night. I was on, I, I was there for Our Song.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  Did you get our song? And like, is this love, I think?

• 33:22Speaker 01

  You are in love?

• 33:23Speaker 02

  You are in, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  I didn't get You Are in Love. I'm so jealous.

• 33:28Speaker 02

  That was a good one.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  That's a great one.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  You know, my favorite line in that song? She says, um, she says, "You understand now why they lost their mind and fight, and fought the wars and why I've spent my whole life trying to put it into words."

• 33:44Speaker 02

  That was like a monologue.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, because everything she does is a monologue. She's perfect. She's perfect.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  What was your favorite episode of New Girl to Film ever?

• 33:58Speaker 02

  I mean, the Prince episode was cool.

• 34:00Speaker 01

  Outside of the guest stars?

• 34:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, there was one we did, season one, called Control. There was a director named Jesse Paretz who did it, who I love, who by the way, did a lot of girls.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Ah.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  Um, which I know you love.

• 34:14Speaker 01

  I love girls.

• 34:15Speaker 02

  But Jesse is like, a phenomenal director and he directed this episode and it was called Control and I loved it so much and it was like where Schmidt and Jess go on the- I break some furniture in the episode and you can see that I have like control issues. And she's like, "You gotta lighten up" and she takes me to the beach. And I end up like integrating with all these hippies and like all of a sudden like, you know, and getting lost and then they're like, "We need Schmidt back, he's lost his mind." And I was like, "I'm not coming back." And then finally, I think like, you know, it resolves where I'm in the kitchen and I'm cooking and cleaning and, and they're like, "Is he, is he back?" And I turn to them in some way and I'm like this, "Yes, I understand my role here."

• 34:58Speaker 02

  And they're like, and they're like, "What?" I was like, "I'm the mom."

• 35:02Speaker 01

  You are, you were the mom, a little.

• 35:05Speaker 02

  I am the mom, yes.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Yes. Did you ever live with anyone like this? Like, did you relate to the show at all?

• 35:12Speaker 02

  No, but the writing was so great and so funny and I, we loved making it and Jake and I were- And we would shoot these like crazy hours and we would do so many takes and like so much of what ended up in that show, I, like what you just described to me, I have no recollection of.

• 35:30Speaker 01

  Right. Do you like to improv?

• 35:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, you do. Sometimes, Jake, Jake was like, Jake is very good at it.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  Uh-huh.

• 35:38Speaker 02

  And so he would push, he could push it in different ways and we, and when I'm with somebody's good, I, I like to do it. Um, and I'm not as good at initiating it and guiding it.

• 35:50Speaker 01

  I disagree.

• 35:51Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  I think you're really good at guiding it.

• 35:54Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Because when we were taping yesterday, you wouldn't let me stop and you kept pushing it and you kept going.

• 36:00Speaker 02

  Well, you needed some extra, but you were very good with it and it a, it really added to, to especially the-

• 36:04Speaker 01

  I love improv.

• 36:05Speaker 02

  You were very good at it.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  I love making stuff up, but I don't like lying. Do you lie?

• 36:12Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, it's my job.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  Well, no, do you lie?

• 36:14Speaker 02

  In real life?

• 36:15Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:16Speaker 02

  No, you're only sick as your secrets.

• 36:19Speaker 01

  You're only sick as your secrets?

• 36:22Speaker 02

  That's right.

• 36:24Speaker 01

  But I'm so sick all the time. I'm like actually ill all the time.

• 36:29Speaker 02

  My belly hurts.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  My belly always hurts. What's your biggest pet peeve?

• 36:33Speaker 02

  My biggest pet peeve? Oh my god, I have so many of them. Right now?

• 36:37Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Like, what do you, oh, what are you therapist about this week?

• 36:40Speaker 02

  My issue has been that it's very hot out.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  It's very hot out, but it doesn't look it.

• 36:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, but that's fine. I like it when it's hot. It's fun to walk, it's nice, I like the heat.

• 36:50Speaker 01

  You love to walk.

• 36:51Speaker 02

  But then, you will walk into anywhere that's inside and the AC is turned down to what feels like 50. And it is a shocking environment to put your body in after having been outside.

• 37:12Speaker 01

  I've never, I can't even explain to you the ways in which I disagree with you right now. That is what you're upset about? I'm sorry, I've never, you're upset that there's air conditioning?

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Well, I feel like I have to layer.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  No.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Because all of a sudden I'm outside, I'm in shorts and t-shirt and then all of a sudden I walk inside and I'm like, if I'm here for more than 20 minutes, I'm gonna need a sweater.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Or a blanket.

• 37:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, where the, where the fuck am I gonna get a blanket? Thank you.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  That's where.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  If this blanket was available for me everywhere I went, I'd feel great.

• 37:51Speaker 01

  Do you sleep hot or cold?

• 37:53Speaker 02

  Hmm, well, what, what do you mean, do I sleep hot or cold? Does like, do I like the room cold?

• 37:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:59Speaker 02

  I like the room at about 70.

• 38:01Speaker 01

  Do you really want this blanket or I feel like I forced it on you?

• 38:04Speaker 02

  It's not uncomfortable.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Okay, so you keep-

• 38:08Speaker 02

  But I'll do this. Um, I sleep at like a 71.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 38:14Speaker 02

  Where, where are you at?

• 38:16Speaker 01

  62.

• 38:18Speaker 02

  You're gonna break the air conditioner!

• 38:20Speaker 01

  I know, it's at 62 right now. Are you cold? Are you chilly?

• 38:23Speaker 02

  I'm freezing, that's why I wore a sweater.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  I know, it's cold in here, right? It's awesome. Sometimes I wake up-

• 38:28Speaker 02

  That's why you're sick all the time.

• 38:30Speaker 01

  Well, yeah.

• 38:32Speaker 02

  I can only picture my wife right now going like, "Did you and Jake talk about your stomachs?"

• 38:38Speaker 01

  My stomach hurts all the time. Does your stomach hurt all the time too?

• 38:42Speaker 02

  Eh, all the time.

• 38:45Speaker 01

  To the point where-

• 38:46Speaker 02

  I have to be so careful with what comes in.

• 38:47Speaker 01

  What do you think it is? Because we're both Jewish.

• 38:49Speaker 02

  I know.

• 38:50Speaker 01

  It's the, it's the lactose. I know it is, by the way. It's the lactose and it's the gluten. We need to stop.

• 38:55Speaker 02

  It, I don't know, I don't, I don't know what it is.

• 38:57Speaker 01

  It's the lactose and the gluten.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  You're not a scientist. Are you a scientist?

• 39:01Speaker 01

  No, but I'm Jewish.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  What's the science?

• 39:03Speaker 01

  It's that you're Jewish. It's that you're Jewish and it's the lactose and the gluten and the red meat. Like Jews are just like delicate creatures.

• 39:12Speaker 02

  Well, our stomachs are.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  And our minds.

• 39:16Speaker 02

  And our minds.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  And our bodies, by the way. Yeah, we're delicate.

• 39:22Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm literally, I'm gonna get hypothermia from this fucking room.

• 39:25Speaker 01

  Please. You don't understand how hot it gets in the therapist's room in LA, like-

• 39:30Speaker 02

  I'm gonna have to go directly to the hospital after this.

• 39:33Speaker 01

  Please. Have you ever gone hypothermia? Or been close to it?

• 39:38Speaker 02

  Have you?

• 39:39Speaker 01

  No, I wish.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  Have you gotten, ever gotten frostbite?

• 39:41Speaker 01

  I wish.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  Why do you wish that you had frostbite?

• 39:44Speaker 01

  Because I love being cold. I say, I always say, "You can always add more layers if you are cold. If you are hot, you cannot rip your skin off."

• 39:53Speaker 02

  Do you think, have you ever seen that movie Alive? About the soccer, the soccer team that gets stranded?

• 40:00Speaker 01

  No!

• 40:01Speaker 02

  And, and they eat each other?

• 40:02Speaker 01

  No!

• 40:04Speaker 02

  You've never seen it?

• 40:05Speaker 01

  No!

• 40:06Speaker 02

  You gotta watch it, but they, they get, they, they were up in the-

• 40:08Speaker 01

  How cold are they?

• 40:09Speaker 02

  Freezing.

• 40:10Speaker 01

  Is it based on a true story?

• 40:11Speaker 02

  You would love it, yes.

• 40:13Speaker 01

  Who wants to sorry to them?

• 40:15Speaker 02

  It is. You would love it.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Is it like Yellowjackets?

• 40:20Speaker 02

  Well, they don't, they don't eat like each other like alive. They eat the, they have to eat the dead bodies to survive.

• 40:25Speaker 01

  What do you watch on television?

• 40:27Speaker 02

  I watch the Knicks. That was my, like-

• 40:30Speaker 01

  You know I was at game four.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  I know you were. I was, by the way, that was like, my daughter comes running down the stairs as I'm watching the game and she was like, "Jake, Kane is there!" And I was like, "Okay." I need, like, this is, I was excited, but I also was like, "It's not about that right now."

• 40:47Speaker 01

  No.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Um, you were at the good game.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  Dude, I was at one of the best-

• 40:52Speaker 02

  Walk me through that. Did you have, you talked about it on your, on the show yet?

• 40:54Speaker 01

  I don't, have I? No.

• 40:56Speaker 02

  A little bit.

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Okay, so Tate invited me. She was like, "I have a plus one. Do you wanna come with me?" I'm like, "Yeah, please, like, everyone's talking about the Knicks right now, this sounds amazing, like, I grew up in New York, like, it's the Knicks."

• 41:08Speaker 02

  You felt great.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  I felt great, I was drunk.

• 41:10Speaker 02

  And then you're at this game.

• 41:11Speaker 01

  And they were losing. They were losing and I was stressed as fuck and the guy serving the drinks was like, "I'm from the Bronx, trust me, all that needs to happen is Jalen Brunson needs to start throwing a few threes and the second he does that, everything will switch and we'll win."

• 41:26Speaker 02

  Was there ever a moment for you where you were like, "Should we get out of here?"

• 41:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  Good for you.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  No.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  I know, but there was a lot of people who were like, "Man, they're down 30."

• 41:36Speaker 01

  I, I know, but like, that's disrespectful, I'm from New York.

• 41:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, totally.

• 41:40Speaker 01

  I'm not gonna leave the Knicks when they're down. And I'm so happy I did it and I was in-

• 41:44Speaker 02

  And then all of a sudden, it started to roll.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  I was in the bathroom and I heard, "Ah!" And I said, I looked at Tate and I said, "Oh!" And we ran outside and they were coming back. And it was like, I mean, watching, who put that last tip in?

• 42:03Speaker 02

  OG Ananobi.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Watching that happen, watching OG Ananobi put the tip in when, because he tossed it and then it didn't go in and it went boom? I can't describe to you, like, I've never experienced, like, it's like a jo, a bomb of joy went off and like the entire stadium erupted. I, everyone had full body chills, everyone just immediately started drinking, like pouring shots, drinking, we were like, "We're going out." It was the best night ever.

• 42:35Speaker 02

  Make sure you clip that out, watching OG Ananobi put the tip in.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  But he did, he put the tip in.

• 42:44Speaker 01

  Or he tipped it in, sorry.

• 42:47Speaker 01

  And then, and then, and then, and then I did talk about this on my podcast, but the one, it was their next game, it was my best friend Cassidy's birthday and we were three hours late to her party because the Knicks were playing.

• 42:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, everybody got, you got caught up in it, right?

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Yep, beyond, look. He's the king of New York.

• 43:05Speaker 02

  He really is.

• 43:05Speaker 01

  He is the king of New York.

• 43:07Speaker 02

  Who, is he your favorite? Do you have a favorite?

• 43:09Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, it's him. No, and I really like Carl.

• 43:14Speaker 02

  Isn't Carl fun?

• 43:15Speaker 01

  I like Carl because I love Jordan and I love her lucky bag. I love her lucky bag, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it, I love it. She literally only didn't bring the bag to one game and they lost. It's the lucky bag. And she just did an ad with the lucky bag for Spider-Man and it's really funny.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  Do you have a lucky bag?

• 43:34Speaker 01

  Like, I have my, like, my bracelets, I have

• 43:40Speaker 01

  like my OCD.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  Your things, you have your things.

• 43:42Speaker 01

  I have my things.

• 43:43Speaker 02

  You have your things, okay.

• 43:44Speaker 01

  Do you have anything, like?

• 43:45Speaker 02

  I don't have my, I don't have things.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  Cause you're, cause you get too caught up in it?

• 43:49Speaker 02

  Um, I try not to get attached to the things.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  Why? Cause you'll get?

• 43:54Speaker 02

  I, I don't know, I just like, you know, honestly, like, I'm afraid I'm gonna lose the thing.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Totally, I, dude, do you know how much I lost this vacation? I lost my diary, I lost my camcorder, I lost my sunglasses. I lost everything, I lost who I was, like, I literally, like, I, and you understand, like, I'm like, where could these things be? I've called, cause you know, like, when you're an adult, you realize you can't really lose things. Like, there's always somebody to call, there're, like, there's always a lost and found, people don't steal things. As a kid, like, you're like, you know what I mean, you're like, oh, like, things are, like, I'm gonna lose it, it's gone, it's stolen. Like, you're like, no, I was at the restaurant, let me call the restaurant. Everywhere.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I never called the restaurant.

• 44:44Speaker 02

  Is your diary at the restaurant?

• 44:45Speaker 01

  My camcorder is, uh, this restaurant.

• 44:49Speaker 02

  Should we call him right now?

• 44:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:53Speaker 03

  To continue, please hold. Hi, it's Juan Yocai speaking, how may I help you?

• 44:57Speaker 01

  Hi, I have a question.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  May I?

• 45:02Speaker 01

  Um, I left a video camera in your restaurant like a week ago, did you guys end up picking it up?

• 45:10Speaker 03

  A, a camera?

• 45:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, there was like a little camcorder I left at your restaurant.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  Sure, we didn't see nothing.

• 45:19Speaker 01

  Oh shit, okay.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  No, I'm so sorry about that, but we didn't see it.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  Okay, thank you. I left it in the Uber, for sure.

• 45:27Speaker 02

  So they don't have it?

• 45:28Speaker 01

  No, when I, she was so done with me, like, I, like, I just, I wasn't gonna push it, if it's gone, it's gone.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  I like that you said. I have a question. And then paused for two minutes.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  Because I wanted her to be like, yes.

• 45:45Speaker 02

  I know, she was like, fuck it, ask him.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  I miss my camera.

• 45:53Speaker 02

  I'm sorry.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  I mix it, I miss mix it, mix it, mix.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  Was there good stuff on there?

• 45:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was gonna make a year-end video. I have right when.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  I mean, it's also July.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I've been taking videos since the first of January.

• 46:11Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, talk it out now.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  The video's gone, the camera's gone. If you find it, please burn it, like, I don't, I don't want to know. I'm like, honestly, a little stressed out about it, to be frank.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  What is your favorite album of all time?

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Oh my gosh, music?

• 46:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:35Speaker 02

  Um, it changes, it cha, like, depends on where I'm at right now.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Where you at right now?

• 46:41Speaker 02

  Sometimes I go through a Grateful Dead phase, like, that's a summer.

• 46:45Speaker 01

  I've never gotten into that.

• 46:46Speaker 02

  Oh my, it'll, it'll happen.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  Really?

• 46:48Speaker 02

  It'll be great.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  You think it'll happen for me? The Grateful Dead, you think?

• 46:51Speaker 02

  Um, but like, I have a whole, here, I'll give you a playlist right now.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm so excited.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  What you got on there?

• 47:00Speaker 02

  Okay, here we are, it takes me a minute to find it, you know I'm slow with technology.

• 47:05Speaker 02

  All right, uh.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Be kinder to yourself.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  There's a Mac Miller song on there.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  Oh, no, live.

• 47:10Speaker 02

  Right, which one, which one? Weekend.

• 47:12Speaker 01

  Yes, I like Miss Call by Mac Miller.

• 47:14Speaker 02

  I have Rockman, uh, by McG, or McG, sorry.

• 47:20Speaker 01

  You listen to McG?

• 47:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, I have a live version of Close To You by Gracie Abrams.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  Oh my god, what?

• 47:25Speaker 02

  I like the new album, by the way, none of that's on there, but I'm, I'm discovering the new album, it's great.

• 47:29Speaker 01

  You got into minibar?

• 47:30Speaker 02

  Um, yeah, I do like minibar, minibar's fun. minibar's a jam.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  Jam.

• 47:35Speaker 02

  Yeah. There's a lot of slow jams on there and then all of a sudden minibar comes on and you're like, okay.

• 47:39Speaker 01

  Or Look At My Life.

• 47:42Speaker 01

  I was about to say.

• 47:42Speaker 02

  I have some Olivia Rodrigo on here.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  I mean, that album is just.

• 47:46Speaker 02

  I, this is not from the new one, this is from the old one. Um, ba ba ba ba, I go to Arcade Fire, Common, Prince and the Revolution, Lord.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Common's in Silo.

• 48:00Speaker 01

  I swear to god. I swear to god, Common is in all three seasons of Silo.

• 48:05Speaker 02

  Is he your favorite character?

• 48:06Speaker 01

  No.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  He was the bad guy in season one.

• 48:09Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  Okay, you would like Vampire Weekend, you don't listen to Vampire Weekend?

• 48:13Speaker 02

  I like Vampire Weekend a lot.

• 48:14Speaker 01

  You like The Strokes?

• 48:16Speaker 02

  I do.

• 48:16Speaker 01

  Have you heard their new album?

• 48:17Speaker 02

  That was exciting, they were at Coachella, were you at Coachella?

• 48:20Speaker 01

  Was I at Coachella? That, did you see The Strokes at Coachella?

• 48:23Speaker 02

  No, Lily went though.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  It, did she go to The Strokes?

• 48:27Speaker 02

  I think so, yeah.

• 48:28Speaker 01

  It was one of the genuine, probably one of the best experiences of my entire life.

• 48:32Speaker 02

  Really?

• 48:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I'd never seen Someday live and Someday's one of my favorite songs of all time, besides The Archer by Taylor Swift. Have you ever heard The Archer by Taylor Swift?

• 48:39Speaker 02

  Yes, of course, I've heard everything by Taylor Swift.

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Obsessed.

• 48:43Speaker 02

  What era, what era like is your era?

• 48:46Speaker 01

  Evermore.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  I know.

• 48:49Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  I have a vinyl of it, no record player, but I'm collecting.

• 48:53Speaker 02

  The best.

• 48:54Speaker 01

  I, do you love Evermore, you wanna know why I love Evermore? I listened to it with my mom for the first time.

• 49:00Speaker 02

  So we were at, um, that, I, that's really sweet.

• 49:04Speaker 01

  She said I like this one, it was Willow.

• 49:06Speaker 02

  We were in like this little box at the, at the concert and it was myself, my wife, Lily and her friend Sarah. And then with us in that same box was Hunter Schafer and her two sisters.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  Oh my god, her sisters are the best.

• 49:22Speaker 02

  The.

• 49:22Speaker 01

  Her sisters are the best.

• 49:24Speaker 02

  Best.

• 49:24Speaker 01

  Best people of, of all time, Hunter's the best, her sisters are also the best.

• 49:28Speaker 02

  The best, and I forget which one, but I was talking to them and she was like, and like, she got into the Evermore and she goes, this is my shit. And I go, oh my god, and she goes, I go, why, I go, why, I was like, why, why is Evermore, she goes, cause it's sad and I like it that way.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's sad, it's, well, first of all, you missed the era where when she, she used to do Tis The Damn Season. You don't understand, like, how, oh my god, you know that's one of my favorite Taylor Swift songs of all time? Because when she, when those opening guitar strings start to Tis The Damn Season, I literally smell Hastings on Hudson. I like, I smell Westchester, like, I literally, like, I smell a town.

• 50:11Speaker 02

  It's so good.

• 50:13Speaker 01

  It's so good. When's the last time you've been back to Duff's Ferry?

• 50:17Speaker 02

  It's been a while, but you know Jack Antonoff?

• 50:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:20Speaker 02

  Who produces all of it, so you, this, you'll like this story. So we were doing this movie, uh, Hello, My Name Is Doris. Michael Showalter directed it and wrote it and is amazing and it's done, you would love him. It was Sally Field and I, um, it's Sally Field's movie and she's at this like place in her life where, uh, she gets this job in this office and she falls in love with my character and she fantasizes about my character and we have this like, will they, won't they kind of relationship? Um, and I take her to like a, like a concert. And it's supposed to be a young hip concert and so Michael and I were like talking about who are we gonna get to be, you know, the act on stage?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 51:05Speaker 02

  And we were like, and I was friendly with Lena at the time and, and she was dating Jack Antonoff. And he was on, and so I, Michael and I emailed Lena and we were like, is there any way that Jack would come out and do this and be like the lead singer of this fake band? And he, like, Bleachers was pretty new at that point, I don't even know, it might not even have existed.

• 51:30Speaker 01

  Well, cause you know, he was in Fun before he was in Bleachers.

• 51:33Speaker 02

  It may have even, like, it was right, it was around then. And so he came out and he was the coolest.

• 51:40Speaker 01

  He's the coolest.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  And wrote a song for the movie and is so good in the movie and has like a full scene in the movie and we had so much fun and like Sally Field was like in love with him, as we all were.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  He is, so, he, he's made some of my favorite songs of all time, of all time.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Those are like the best produced albums.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  Ever.

• 51:59Speaker 02

  Ever.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  Should we get into the Tell Me What's Wrong, oh my god, I just, I never wanna leave you.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  I know, well, we, okay, let's do it. But at some point, we, we should, we should have like a proper.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  I can't, Max, I can't, I can't, well, you're gonna go back to Paris until what, November?

• 52:13Speaker 02

  I don't know, it's gonna be a while.

• 52:18Speaker 01

  Do you like my outfit, by the way, because it's so cute?

• 52:20Speaker 02

  Did you write me a letter?

• 52:21Speaker 01

  No, it's the tell me what's wrongs.

• 52:25Speaker 01

  But I would write you a letter. I'm gonna send you a really long text later. And I'm gonna mean every word. I hope you write me one back.

• 52:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, if you open it.

• 52:35Speaker 01

  I'm gonna send, I'm gonna, please. I'm gonna send you a text, it's gonna be really long and meaningful, and then I'm gonna send you a few songs to listen to for the plane.

• 52:43Speaker 02

  Oh, I love that.

• 52:44Speaker 01

  You guys, I'm sad.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Oh my god, you wanna know what I've been doing lately?

• 52:51Speaker 02

  Opening envelopes?

• 52:53Speaker 01

  My wrist, like my forearm is so tight because I didn't work out for so long, and...

• 53:01Speaker 02

  I don't, you have arthritis in there?

• 53:02Speaker 01

  No, I have Dequervis tendonitis.

• 53:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  And so my favorite thing to do, that I've discovered since I've been 26, is to get like knots out of myself, or get like loosen up muscles on my own without having to get a massage.

• 53:19Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  And the easiest one to do that at, like something like, you know, when you have a knot there and you like go, and you're like, you feel it and you go over, and you go over it.

• 53:28Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  My favorite thing to do now is like scrape, muscle scrape my forearm.

• 53:33Speaker 02

  Do you get a lot?

• 53:35Speaker 01

  See, like...

• 53:36Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, yeah. Does it happen a lot more now that you're jacked?

• 53:42Speaker 01

  But I'm not jacked right now. I need to, you know, pick it, pick it back up. My trainer said, "You could work on the chest."

• 53:50Speaker 01

  He said, "You lost a lot of weight," which I know I did, because in Europe, everything is like very clean. Despite, I like ate bread every day, like doesn't matter.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  I know.

• 53:59Speaker 01

  Doesn't matter.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  I know, but I, I was gonna say it affects our bellies, though, but it, I think it's fine.

• 54:04Speaker 01

  What affects our bellies?

• 54:06Speaker 02

  All, everything over there.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  But everything here hurts my stomach. Like, I'm going to get Mediterranean food tonight, it's gonna hurt my stomach.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  Oh, oh.

• 54:13Speaker 01

  I'm so pumped, though. I'm so pumped. I'm gonna go home, smoke a joint, my stomach, I'll feel nothing. I'm gonna put on New Girl, you know, that's my new nighttime show.

• 54:24Speaker 02

  I'm gonna put on New Girl, I'm gonna scrape my...

• 54:26Speaker 01

  Yes, I am, I am, I'm gonna scrape my knots, smoke a joint, and watch New Girl.

• 54:30Speaker 02

  Ugh, what a night.

• 54:31Speaker 01

  Who's that girl?

• 54:34Speaker 01

  Who's that girl? Who's that girl? It's Jess.

• 54:42Speaker 02

  It's a good one.

• 54:43Speaker 01

  Hey, girl. Where you going? Guys, please.

• 54:53Speaker 01

  Are you ready?

• 54:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  "I actually need your help so badly. I have absolutely no clue on how to text people, and when I do, it genuinely scares me so much."

• 55:04Speaker 01

  What? "I'm worried everyone won't understand how I'm saying something, and spiral, and spiral." Well, that is the basis of texting, so. "Recently, I've been doing the voice notes, but everyone makes fun of me for that, LMAO."

• 55:16Speaker 02

  What's your take on the voice texts?

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Do not voice, do not voice text me. The only time I will ever accept a voice note is if you're telling me like, if we were writing something together and we were like writing stuff back and forth to each other, like, and it's just like you're word vomiting, like, that's an acceptable voice note. I, like, if you're telling me a story, fucking text me. I like to read, sometimes, on my phone. I like to read texts.

• 55:38Speaker 02

  What is it, though, about, because I, I don't love it either, unless someone's like, "Listen, I'm driving and I need, like, I can't text."

• 55:43Speaker 01

  I don't listen to them, I read the transcription.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  I know, it's, I don't, I'm...

• 55:47Speaker 01

  The only person in the entire world who I will listen to voice notes from is Alicia Carmen D. from The Real Housewives of Rhode Island.

• 55:56Speaker 02

  Why?

• 55:57Speaker 01

  Because she is the funniest, she, the voice notes she leaves me are genuinely hysterical, like, I look forward to listening to them.

• 56:06Speaker 02

  I'm gonna need an example.

• 56:07Speaker 01

  Okay, I'll play you one. I, I'm gonna ask her if I can put this in. This, I asked her how the new season was going.

• 56:13Speaker 04

  Jake, these motherfuckers had me working, that's all I'm gonna say, I've never worked so hard, I said, "This isn't housewife life." I thought being a housewife, I was gonna get paid to stay home, get a dinner, you know, maybe get my nails done. But this is gonna be a good season, trust me, it's, it's wild, I am so excited. I can't wait to F and see you again, Johnny, people say, "Oh my god, I watched that podcast of you and Jake Sheen." Like, literally today, I was in Boston going shopping, and people were like, "I love the interview of you and Jake Sheen." I'm like, "Oh my god, this is wild, people are obsessed with you, you're epic." I know it's late, I just wanted to get an end before I just got home, so I'm so sorry, I hope I didn't wake you up, but yeah, people are fucking obsessed with you, Jake Sheen, it's wild.

• 56:58Speaker 01

  Like, those are the voice notes I listen to.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  That's a kind message.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  But so, but I'd listen to a voice note from you. I'd listen to a voice note from Tess, I know those would be entertaining.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 57:07Speaker 01

  But I don't like listening to voice notes, they really bug me out. But you know what I've been doing? Talk to text. Don't play with me in my talk to text.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  No, no, I know.

• 57:16Speaker 01

  I used to really shit on people for talk to text, uh-uh, I love it.

• 57:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I gotta get, it takes me a minute to figure out what words I wanna use.

• 57:26Speaker 01

  Well, I'm just like, it catches every word, it's so good, I don't know how it does it. So maybe you should talk to text.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  That's a good, I think that's really...

• 57:34Speaker 01

  And then, oh, if you're worried about them not understanding you, you just say, "Sorry, talk to text." "Moving to NYC and worried I'm New York chopped, like, help, I fear I cannot compete with these New York guys, and if I don't get a boyfriend, I'm deadass moving to Ohio, to Ohio, becoming a farmer. Any tips for my confidence?" You need to just like fake it. Like, if you radiate like sex, people wanna have sex with you.

• 58:00Speaker 02

  Oh, for sure.

• 58:01Speaker 01

  I don't do that, so I can't relate, but like if you just like...

• 58:04Speaker 02

  Are you kidding?

• 58:07Speaker 01

  What?

• 58:08Speaker 02

  Jake, we haven't, we've spent this whole week together, and the two of us, everywhere we go, I can tell, people are like, "Those two guys radiate sex."

• 58:19Speaker 01

  Really?

• 58:19Speaker 02

  That's the vibe I get.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  Okay. See? Fake it. Like, you gotta fake it till you make it. I don't think you're faking it, but I, I am.

• 58:28Speaker 02

  The two of us are out there, I don't, I, you're not even, you just have it naturally.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  But people say I look really angry all the time. Like, when I'm walking around, like, people say I look angry and like...

• 58:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know, but that's also like, it's also like sexy angry, it's like, "I'm hungry."

• 58:44Speaker 01

  It's not possible to be New York chopped because there's so many fish in the sea. Like, there's no one to compete with, because there's no competition, like, you, there's so many men here. Everyone's fucking gay in this city, everyone. I've never met a non-gay person in this city.

• 58:59Speaker 02

  Is it only New York, or is it everywhere?

• 59:02Speaker 01

  It's only New York, there's literally, like, every apartment building is a gay person.

• 59:08Speaker 02

  Wait, hold on, hold on, hold on. Every apartment is a gay person?

• 59:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, knock, knock, they're gay. I swear. Everyone's like, "I'm live experimented," I'm like, "Really? Damn." I'm like, "Where do you live?" "New York, knew it." I was in Paris with these people, I was like, "Are you gay?" And they were like, "No, but I, I could be." And I was like, you know, I've, everyone's experienced, experimented, I was like, "Where are you from?" They're like, "New York," I was like, "Knew it, gay."

• 59:39Speaker 02

  So if anybody's from New York, it's automatically that...

• 59:41Speaker 01

  Like, you'll, you'll catch a dick, honey, don't worry. Whether it be on Grindr, Sniffies, Hinge, Raya, whatever you need, like, you'll, you'll catch one. It might not be the one you want, but sometimes...

• 59:53Speaker 02

  It's the one you need.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  It's the one you need.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  "My husband and I despise each other's favorite and ongoing shows." Ooh. "It's almost comedic at how we can't find any common ground on what to watch, on what to watch together. He hates all reality and game show TV, which is my fave game show, oh, like Survivor, and I hate his dark drama action shows and sitcoms."

• 1:00:18Speaker 01

  Oh, honey. We're gonna, you're gonna take the guy's side. So am I, though, because I like dark action shows and sitcoms.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Well, why do I, why does it have to be a side, but, I mean, can't there be a compromise?

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  It didn't used to be a big deal, but we're in a brand new marriage and are having a tough time finding a way to wind down at the end of the night, together. You know what I would watch? I would prescribe the show Unreal, because it's about the behind the scenes of The Bachelor, so you get a mix of drama and reality.

• 1:00:48Speaker 02

  Beautiful.

• 1:00:48Speaker 01

  That was some of the best advice I've ever given, by the way, it's one of the best shows ever made.

• 1:00:52Speaker 02

  I would just do like, you know, random.

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  What about The 100 on The CW?

• 1:00:57Speaker 02

  Ooh, how about this? Silo.

• 1:01:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's fucking great. Well, actually, it's okay. It's really okay.

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  You know what you could do now, though? I like this random idea where like, there should be a button on like, the remote, where it just goes, you hit it, and it cycles through everything that's on whatever streaming service that you're on, and it just picks a show for you, and that just starts playing.

• 1:01:24Speaker 05

  They have that on Netflix.

• 1:01:26Speaker 02

  Do they have that?

• 1:01:27Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's on Netflix.

• 1:01:29Speaker 01

  Nolan, tell Max how many times you've watched New Girl.

• 1:01:31Speaker 05

  I've seen the entire show like, six times, all the way through. I love it. It's my comfort show.

• 1:01:37Speaker 02

  Do you have a favorite episode?

• 1:01:39Speaker 05

  Uh, background check, probably.

• 1:01:41Speaker 02

  Okay, do you have a favorite character? Thanks.

• 1:01:44Speaker 01

  Come on, man. Come on, man. He said he's never been so excited for anyone ever on the podcast.

• 1:01:49Speaker 02

  Well, can Nolan sit next to me for a little bit?

• 1:01:52Speaker 02

  Has that ever been done before?

• 1:01:53Speaker 05

  Stay in my fucking light.

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  No, he's never. I don't think Nolan's ever made an appearance.

• 1:01:57Speaker 05

  I'm not even letting you tell me not to do.

• 1:02:02Speaker 02

  Just, yeah, produce from here. Okay, read the next one.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  I can't believe it, Nolan. Nolan reveal.

• 1:02:09Speaker 05

  Hi, everybody.

• 1:02:10Speaker 02

  Uh, I've invited Nolan on the podcast.

• 1:02:13Speaker 05

  Hey there.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  Big time, big time New Girl fan.

• 1:02:16Speaker 05

  Big time.

• 1:02:17Speaker 01

  He's six times through.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  Six times through, all the way.

• 1:02:21Speaker 05

  And I love Jake Johnson, and I love Nick. I relate to him the most.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  Not me.

• 1:02:25Speaker 05

  But you're my fave.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  Well, come on. I, I relate to Schmidt. Actually, mm, I relate to...

• 1:02:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, Schmidt.

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  Thanks.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  Schmidt's a bit delusional. And I relate to it. He's a bit of like, a control freak.

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  He's a bit delusional.

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  He's got some issues.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  But he's needed so deeply.

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:02:47Speaker 01

  And I know my friends need me, like water.

• 1:02:50Speaker 02

  That's right. That's exactly right.

• 1:02:51Speaker 01

  And air. And I know they miss me every time they're not with me. They're all in Ibiza right now, so, without me. So I've never had any sensory issues before anything like this, but recently I've been really irritated by my feet. It's like, I constantly know they're there, and it really went, oh my god, please, I can't.

• 1:03:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's my...

• 1:03:09Speaker 01

  No, that one's gonna ruin my life, cuz I can't think about that. I don't wanna think about my feet, or anything, or like, feel sensory issues to my feet. Hey Jake, and special guest.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  Nolan.

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  Me and my boyfriend never argue and have been together for just over two years. Is this a red flag, or a green flag, or a beige, or what? Sometimes I need a bit of drama, and I'm just not getting it.

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  You read that so fast. Did you get that?

• 1:03:31Speaker 05

  Did not hear a word.

• 1:03:33Speaker 01

  Boyfriend, I don't argue with the boyfriend.

• 1:03:35Speaker 05

  And I picked these out.

• 1:03:36Speaker 01

  She has a boyfriend, they don't argue with the boyfriend, she's like, is it weird that we don't argue? I'm weirded out.

• 1:03:40Speaker 05

  I put this in because of an episode of New Girl.

• 1:03:45Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 1:03:45Speaker 05

  I'm fully locked in. Remember Jess is dating...

• 1:03:49Speaker 02

  Oh, god.

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  Uh, Justin Locke?

• 1:03:51Speaker 05

  No, no, no, no, no. Silver Fox. Come on, who is it?

• 1:03:55Speaker 02

  Oh, German Mulrooney.

• 1:03:57Speaker 05

  Was it?

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:58Speaker 05

  What's his character's name?

• 1:04:00Speaker 01

  Six times, Nolan.

• 1:04:01Speaker 05

  I know. I'm blanking. I've never been on the camera before.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Are you nervous?

• 1:04:05Speaker 05

  Not as nervous.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  We call them the Big D.

• 1:04:08Speaker 05

  The Big D?

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. He called himself the Big D.

• 1:04:11Speaker 05

  Russell.

• 1:04:11Speaker 02

  Russell, yeah.

• 1:04:12Speaker 05

  Fucking Russell.

• 1:04:13Speaker 02

  Fucking Rotzel.

• 1:04:14Speaker 01

  And they never argued?

• 1:04:16Speaker 05

  No, so Jessica and Russell had a very healthy and happy relationship, but then Jess realizes that she needs a little bit of argumentation in her life. And then she goes back home to the apartment, and her and Nick fight.

• 1:04:28Speaker 01

  Ah!

• 1:04:31Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  I want love.

• 1:04:33Speaker 02

  You'll, you, you have love.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  No, I don't.

• 1:04:38Speaker 02

  Everyone in this room loves you. You have so much love in this world.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  Okay, I guess I do feel that.

• 1:04:46Speaker 02

  Look at Nolan and I. Look, look how Nolan and I are looking at you right now.

• 1:04:49Speaker 05

  I thought I was gonna finish the heart with me. There we go.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  Love you.

• 1:04:54Speaker 01

  I know, but, okay, we have to move on because everyone on Twitter is gonna be like, he won't shut the fuck up, about how he like, please. We have to move on, cuz this happens, I, be, every week, I can't, I see another tweet about how it's putting like, these celebrities through humiliation rituals about hearing like, how I like, can't find a dick.

• 1:05:10Speaker 02

  That, this wasn't about you finding a dick.

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  Just trust me, I'm on Twitter. I see it all. I see it. I hear you. I'll stop.

• 1:05:18Speaker 02

  Is he called X now?

• 1:05:20Speaker 05

  I think the Gen Z socially revolt, and we're still calling it Twitter.

• 1:05:23Speaker 02

  Okay, I feel like that's right.

• 1:05:25Speaker 01

  It's always Twitter.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  Read the next one, we don't love you, it's fine.

• 1:05:29Speaker 01

  I'm, well, honestly, if you're having a, if you never argue with the guy, it's like, yeah, that is a red flag, like, you should probably argue. You don't think? If I never argued with my boyfriend, I'd be like, I don't like this.

• 1:05:40Speaker 02

  We don't know how to answer your questions now that we were scolded for answering them before.

• 1:05:44Speaker 01

  No, I wasn't scolding you. I appreciate the love.

• 1:05:47Speaker 02

  Well, it felt like a scold.

• 1:05:48Speaker 01

  Well, I'm just saying, like, people are gonna be like, he needs to, to, stop playing the pity party game that he always plays, cuz I do, I'm, I'm like, a walking pity party.

• 1:05:57Speaker 05

  Why are you yelling at us?

• 1:05:59Speaker 02

  You've put, you've put two celebrities, Nolan and I.

• 1:06:01Speaker 05

  That's right.

• 1:06:02Speaker 02

  In a position where we don't know how to, cuz like, oh, we don't wanna, we don't want the audience to now feel like, that you've put us in a weird position, and that Twitter is gonna say all these things, and...

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  About me.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  Or Nolan and I, which would be real bad.

• 1:06:20Speaker 01

  I'm twenty, oh my god, you wanna know what I've been doing lately to calm myself down, like a baby? So I've realized that when you tense your muscles and untense them, it like, calms you down. So lately, I've been going...

• 1:06:31Speaker 02

  Hold it.

• 1:06:35Speaker 01

  And it really calms me down.

• 1:06:36Speaker 02

  You do look more relaxed.

• 1:06:37Speaker 01

  I told you.

• 1:06:38Speaker 02

  Between that and your nodding thing.

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  And it works. I swear I'm in love with my boyfriend. But it seems like every time a guy around my age walks in the room, my head is always turning. Sometimes even when I'm with him. I hope he doesn't notice, he does. Is this normal, or am I falling out of love? You might be.

• 1:07:00Speaker 02

  Which one?

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Falling out of love. What do you think?

• 1:07:04Speaker 05

  Well, I think in New Girl,

• 1:07:08Speaker 05

  Schmidt dated two people at the same time, but was not falling out of love with either of them.

• 1:07:14Speaker 02

  That's right. Twitter did not like that one.

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  Wait, really?

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, it was bad.

• 1:07:18Speaker 01

  What was Twitter saying about that one?

• 1:07:20Speaker 05

  It's X.

• 1:07:21Speaker 01

  What'd they say?

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  Well, what happened on the show was, is I reconnected, my, Schmidt reconnected with, um, an old girlfriend from college.

• 1:07:30Speaker 01

  And you were dating Cece at the time.

• 1:07:31Speaker 02

  And I had not yet broken up with Cece, and, but, or, like, we're on...

• 1:07:39Speaker 05

  No, you were single, then you were dating Elizabeth, and then the wedding happened, and then Cece pronounced her love for you.

• 1:07:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:45Speaker 05

  And then you broke up, or, or you didn't break up with Elizabeth, but you told Cece that you did.

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  Yes, and I, and, and he was caught in the predicament of, I'm in love with both of these people, and I don't know how to move forward, and I can't break their hearts.

• 1:07:59Speaker 01

  Well, I've never experienced that, so I don't know how to help this person.

• 1:08:02Speaker 02

  Well, apparently, we're not to tell you, we're not supposed to tell you that you're loved, so... I guess sucks for you.

• 1:08:12Speaker 05

  Is this what it's like to be on the podcast?

• 1:08:15Speaker 01

  Okay, well, everybody give it up for Nolan.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  Nolan, this was a really special experience.

• 1:08:21Speaker 05

  It really was.

• 1:08:22Speaker 02

  I'm glad we got to do this.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  Nolan reveal for a perfect episode so far.

• 1:08:27Speaker 05

  Truly, Max, give me a hug.

• 1:08:28Speaker 01

  Are you having fun?

• 1:08:29Speaker 02

  Hold on, can I, can I give Nolan a hug?

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  Go give Nolan a hug.

• 1:08:31Speaker 05

  Can we have a moment, please?

• 1:08:33Speaker 02

  I love you, Nolan.

• 1:08:34Speaker 05

  Our earlobes just touched, it was very intimate.

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  Like, in terms of press that you do, like, where would you ra- rank this?

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  At the top.

• 1:08:40Speaker 01

  Shut up! I believe you too.

• 1:08:43Speaker 02

  I, I, I told you, I don't lie. You're only sick of your secrets.

• 1:08:50Speaker 01

  Anytime I watch your podcast, I get FOMO, because I love your relationship with your college friends. I had a group of tight-knit close friends slash roommates in college, but I'm only close with one now. How do I get the gang back together? We're all spread out, so it's really tough.

• 1:09:03Speaker 02

  It's, this is emotional for you.

• 1:09:05Speaker 01

  I, cuz I know how to do it. You just shoot a text, and you start sending old photos, and everyone, and the group chat will just go...

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  And you're back.

• 1:09:15Speaker 02

  Do you do a photo first, or do you, a text first?

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Photo, and you're like, oh my god. You're just like, you send a photo, be like, we were so ugly. Like, that's what I would do.

• 1:09:27Speaker 01

  Like, I'll send a, like, sometimes, like, I mean, like, it's not the same with me because I'm so close with my college friends, but like, I'll send a photo of Julia, and I'd be like, we were so fucking hideous, like, who let us out of the house?

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  This is actually good, this is good advice.

• 1:09:39Speaker 01

  One time,

• 1:09:42Speaker 01

  Peyton and Julia wore the, uh, they will kill me for bringing this up, but I don't even care. They wore the most hideous Halloween costume. They've never in their lives looked worse. Do you remember, first of all, I'm with Max?

• 1:10:01Speaker 01

  Hi!

• 1:10:03Speaker 02

  Where are you?

• 1:10:05Speaker 06

  Still? Or no, you were. Still. Sick.

• 1:10:10Speaker 01

  We're talking about how fucking ugly you guys looked at Halloween.

• 1:10:18Speaker 06

  On camera?

• 1:10:19Speaker 01

  Please. What were you dressed as again?

• 1:10:22Speaker 06

  Yo, Jake, yo, we for motorcyclers, bro.

• 1:10:26Speaker 02

  We said, we told Jake not to do it, but.

• 1:10:29Speaker 06

  We took mirror selfies.

• 1:10:32Speaker 06

  Like, we took pictures in the mirror in our costumes before we went out and said, what the fuck do we do? We can't leave the house looking like this.

• 1:10:39Speaker 02

  No, I know. Jake showed them. He had them. He showed it to everybody.

• 1:10:41Speaker 06

  Oh, perfect. Thank you, Jake.

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  He's lying, which he said he never does. So can you please find the photo?

• 1:10:48Speaker 06

  I'm finding it now. Oh, my God. I was all fat for it, bro.

• 1:10:56Speaker 01

  You guys were also that.

• 1:10:57Speaker 06

  Please, let me see the mermaid. Please, hold on. Come back to me, please.

• 1:11:03Speaker 06

  Please, come back. Fuck, I was fat for multiple Halloween costumes.

• 1:11:11Speaker 06

  Don't work right now. Did you get the pictures?

• 1:11:18Speaker 06

  We were like, also like, did you, did Jake, did you not tell him what you dressed up as that year?

• 1:11:23Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:11:23Speaker 06

  Yourself, you loser.

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  I dressed up as myself. Wait, sing, sing the theme song.

• 1:11:32Speaker 06

  Who's that girl? Who's that girl?

• 1:11:37Speaker 02

  Ah, I love you guys.

• 1:11:38Speaker 01

  Oh, you missed the third.

• 1:11:46Speaker 02

  I like the immediate reaction, realization, which was horrifying.

• 1:11:50Speaker 01

  The mermaid costume was the most tragic thing on planet Earth.

• 1:11:53Speaker 02

  But then she went, oh, my God, I was fat for multiple Halloween.

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  I, because I forgot about the mermaids. The mermaids were so bad.

• 1:12:09Speaker 01

  You should reconnect with your college friends. It's really fun.

• 1:12:12Speaker 02

  I think that's why, like, school uniforms are a good thing.

• 1:12:15Speaker 01

  Oh, really?

• 1:12:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:16Speaker 01

  I used to show up to school and like, oh, my God, I had a unibrow. I was like.

• 1:12:21Speaker 02

  But I think if everybody, I think when you go to a school with uniforms, everybody shows up and they're like, this is not great. But like, everyone's doing it together and it levels out like the plane.

• 1:12:31Speaker 01

  You're right. Does Lily wear a uniform?

• 1:12:33Speaker 02

  They have uniforms, but it's like they're like loose uniforms.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, jinx. But I knew you were gonna say, so it doesn't count as a jinx.

• 1:12:40Speaker 02

  Okay, well, what happens now?

• 1:12:44Speaker 01

  I have super bad OCD and anxiety when I fly and I'm running around undiagnosed. So do you have any advice or similar experiences, especially since you're usually flying? I'm going on two planes tomorrow and low-key I'm freaking out. Okay. I don't get stressed out on planes. I get stressed out on everything else because if a plane is going down, it is my time to go.

• 1:13:06Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 1:13:06Speaker 01

  You know what I mean?

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  I totally agree.

• 1:13:08Speaker 01

  What am I gonna do? Fly the plane? I don't know how to fly a plane. I'm going down. I'm dying. You have to just accept fate. Like, you can't cheat fate. You should watch Final Destination, honestly, to make yourself feel better. Because they tried to cheat fate when they went on the airplane, when they get off the airplane and then they all fucking die anyway in horrific, horrific events.

• 1:13:27Speaker 02

  I'm with you. If you get on the plane, the plane takes off. We're doing this.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  Right? You know, one time I was on a plane, they tried to start it twice. It didn't work. The third time it worked, they said, all right, here we go. And they took off. Can you imagine?

• 1:13:42Speaker 02

  Here we go.

• 1:13:43Speaker 01

  Here we go.

• 1:13:45Speaker 01

  Like.

• 1:13:45Speaker 02

  I think that's the right advice.

• 1:13:48Speaker 01

  It's not simple to say.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  That most days.

• 1:13:55Speaker 01

  I don't recognize me. These shoes and this apron, this place and its patrons.

• 1:14:06Speaker 01

  You don't know the lyrics?

• 1:14:06Speaker 02

  I don't, well, I don't know that one.

• 1:14:08Speaker 01

  Have taken more than I've gave them.

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  I don't, by the way, I like that both of us sing very low.

• 1:14:16Speaker 01

  It's not simple.

• 1:14:20Speaker 02

  I like the, I like when it goes, um, what's the, what's the one where it's?

• 1:14:23Speaker 01

  Tension sweet center. I still remember that girl.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  That is so good.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  She is perfect.

• 1:14:31Speaker 02

  Keep going.

• 1:14:32Speaker 01

  But she's kind.

• 1:14:33Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 1:14:35Speaker 01

  She is smart.

• 1:14:39Speaker 01

  She is hard on herself. She is broken and won't ask for help. She is messy, but she's kind. She is.

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  Most of the time.

• 1:15:02Speaker 01

  She is all of this baked up made in a beautiful pie.

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  She's gone, but she used to be.

• 1:15:18Speaker 01

  Mine. She used to be mine.

• 1:15:28Speaker 02

  Ooh, we sounded good there.

• 1:15:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, we all have.

• 1:15:30Speaker 02

  Thank God you weren't here for this, Nolan, because you would have ruined it.

• 1:15:36Speaker 01

  Max, is your real name Maxwell?

• 1:15:38Speaker 02

  No, that was so nice. Maybe that was the goodbye.

• 1:15:40Speaker 01

  I think that was the goodbye.

• 1:15:42Speaker 02

  That was nice, though.

• 1:15:44Speaker 01

  I've had a lovely two weeks with you.

• 1:15:48Speaker 02

  It's been a really, it's been a really special time and I'm really grateful for it.

• 1:15:52Speaker 01

  I'm really grateful too. I'm gonna cry later when I write you my note. I hope you cry too.

• 1:15:59Speaker 02

  When I write you back?

• 1:16:00Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:16:02Speaker 02

  And then I'm gonna need some space.

• 1:16:03Speaker 01

  That's fine.

• 1:16:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then, and then I'll send you just like a picture of our time together, just to remind you.

• 1:16:11Speaker 01

  We have a lot.

• 1:16:12Speaker 02

  And that'll bring us back together.

• 1:16:14Speaker 01

  So many photos.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  We have so many photos.

• 1:16:16Speaker 01

  And we have self tapes.

• 1:16:18Speaker 02

  We have self tapes.

• 1:16:19Speaker 01

  Well, Max, what did we learn today?

• 1:16:21Speaker 02

  How to use a microphone.

• 1:16:23Speaker 01

  Okay. And I learned that we're real best friends.

• 1:16:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, and.

• 1:16:26Speaker 01

  That's right.

• 1:16:27Speaker 02

  I learned that I have a brand new best friend.

• 1:16:30Speaker 01

  Okay, well, now you have to say, bye pussies.

• 1:16:32Speaker 02

  Bye pussies.

• 1:16:50Speaker 00

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