Session 134: Morgan Stewart

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• 0:42Speaker 01

  Hi pussies.

• 0:43Speaker 02

  Hi everyone.

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  I'm with Adrian, my ski instructor from Corcheval, France.

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  And now is, uh...

• 0:49Speaker 01

  And now, we are at the Jungle Park Mallorca. We're reunited. He taught me how to ski, and now he taught me how to do the Jungle Park.

• 0:55Speaker 02

  Yep, that's true.

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  And we love you.

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  Yes.

• 1:00Speaker 01

  Welcome. Morgan Stewart McGraw, aka Boobs and Lubes.

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  I love you.

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  I love you, so thank you for being here.

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  I'm so happy. Are you kidding? I literally said, "This is happening rain or shine." I'm gonna chew my TikTok. TikTok. Tic-tac.

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  You know what clip I watched? Well, you know my friend Julia.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Of course.

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  She goes...

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  I love her.

• 1:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, she, she literally, she doesn't freak out over anyone. She's coffee today, freaking out. She's like, "You don't..." I'm, no, I'm like, "No, Julia, I understand. I watch Rich Kids of Beverly Hills."

• 1:30Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:30Speaker 01

  But she sends me the clip of Instagram Gate.

• 1:33Speaker 03

  What was Instagram Gate?

• 1:34Speaker 01

  Where Dorothy blurred your face out.

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  Okay, so let me tell you what happened with this. I, this came up recently, so I saw it on my TikTok.

• 1:42Speaker 01

  I would've been mad too!

• 1:43Speaker 03

  I was so livid, but like, she was ahead of her time because like, the blurry, like, face moment is like, happening now.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  But why did she blur your face?

• 1:50Speaker 03

  She didn't. She did not blur my face.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 1:52Speaker 03

  She took a photo, we all took a photo, and I was a little out of frame. I was moving. This is 10 years ago, and people still talk to me about this, but it's so relevant today. So, at that point, we weren't as advanced as we are in terms of like, like, themes on Instagram. So I was like, "My face is blurry, why did you post that?" I don't know. It was fine.

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  Yeah, but I got it.

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  But you know what I mean? But now, it's like, if you're in motion, you're cool.

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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  You know?

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  And we share a mutual friend, Roxy.

• 2:16Speaker 03

  Of coo... She just came on my show?

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  She... Roxy kills me.

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  She is the funniest.

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  She is underratedly.

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  I know.

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  One of the funniest fucking people I've ever met in my life.

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  I know.

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  She has little quips.

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  She goes there.

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  She goes there. She'll like, we'll be standing somewhere and she'll, little quip in my ear and I'll be like, Roxy!

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  Yeah, I know, I know.

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  Also, we, like, Roxy and I go so far back.

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  Well, you're born and raised LA.

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  Born and raised LA. Roxy and I have been literally, I mean, we obviously are not now, but we're close, but we were best friends when we started Rich Kids for literally 10 years until we started the show.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  Really?

• 2:49Speaker 03

  Yeah, we were very close. We were like sisters. And so we always kind of have that sisterly bond no matter what. But Roxy is like, low key, you're right, so fucking funny, so fucking sharp. And like, we'll say like,

• 3:00Speaker 01

  Should we call her?

• 3:00Speaker 03

  She's kooky. Let's call her.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  We have to call her. I die.

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  She's gonna be like, hi, what is it?

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  No, she's gonna say, where was my invite?

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  Yeah.

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  Hello?

• 3:08Speaker 03

  Hello? You're on speaker. Do you know who I'm with right now? Guess with one, I'm with one person, but guess. One with three people, but guess.

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  I have no idea.

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  Come on, just guess. We're mutual, we have mutual friends. J name. J A?

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  J?

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  A?

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  Roxy!

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  Come on. Jesus Christ, we were talking about how quick you were for five minutes.

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  I'm not quick anymore. My brain is so.

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  Roxy, it's Jake.

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  Hello?

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  Oh my God, Jake, Jake?

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  Yes!

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  Okay, Jake, love you.

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  Love you, bye.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  Love you, Roxy. And you've met Bijou?

• 3:41Speaker 03

  Of course I've met Bijou.

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  Bijou Bijon?

• 3:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know. Can you even imagine that? It's crazy.

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  Little Bijou, she's such a little diva. Sorry, she was at DuCap marching around.

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  I know, I know.

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  I was like, oh my God.

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  The name?

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, she, Bijou, she carries her little purses. I'm like, Roxy. She's like, I know.

• 3:57Speaker 03

  I know, but that's Roxy. That's how Roxy is.

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  I know.

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  Roxy's like a feisty little pit bull.

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  Uh huh.

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  What sign are you?

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  I know what sign you are.

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  I know what sign you are too, and I shouldn't. I do know this. You're not a Scorpio.

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  I am a Scorpio.

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  I love Scorpios. I'm Gemini.

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  I'm Gemini, rising Gemini moon.

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  Oh, that's why this goes so well.

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  Yeah.

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  And I'm, I love Scorpios. My best, best, best, best, best guy friend in the entire world is Scorpio. Are you November Scorpio?

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  October.

• 4:22Speaker 03

  October what?

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  Twenty-seventh.

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  No, but let's, okay, so you're Scorpio, so you would do really well with Capricorn or fellow Scorpio. Capricorn's really good for you.

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  Really? Why?

• 4:30Speaker 03

  It's just like a really compatible sign for you. My dad was a Scorpio, my mom's Capricorn, they were like soulmates forever. And every Scorpio and Capricorn duo I know love each other. They're equally loyal. Scorpios are really loyal, but they will never forget if you fuck them.

• 4:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I don't.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  I know.

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  My, Julie has a Capricorn.

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  There you go.

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  And we fought like fucking-

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  I know.

• 4:49Speaker 01

  The hyenas, like scream, we go low, the lowest of the lowest of the low.

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  And you come right back.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  We come right back in ten minutes.

• 4:55Speaker 03

  Okay, so what are we looking, what's our age range?

• 4:57Speaker 01

  I like older, I like thir-, well, you're, everyone's gonna come at me-

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  No, no, say no!

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  I like mid-thirties, mid-thirties, mid-thirties, late fort-, mid-thirties, late thirties.

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  What's the oldest? So would you-

• 5:08Speaker 01

  I would go fifty.

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  Okay, that's a big range. Okay, I think we need somebody who's in the industry, but not front-facing.

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  Yes.

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  Somebody who's brilliant.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Yes.

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  Somebody who you, somebody who you also are like, I wouldn't have thought, but it's really this way.

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  Right.

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  You know, like-

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  Someone who's like, "You're so fucking stupid, but like, I love you."

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  But I love you, yeah. Maybe like, not an agent, but somebody like in, somebody working somewhere.

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  I wouldn't hate an agent.

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  Yeah, but like, I, I think that's gonna happen soon, and I don't think you're gonna live in this place long.

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  Really?

• 5:34Speaker 03

  Not that I'm a witch, but I just, I think we're like coming to a close.

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  No, I think you are, and she thinks you are.

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  I think we're done. When you told me this out, I was like, we're, this feels like, this place has like a certain energy for like when things started to come up, and I think we're transitioning out of it into a higher level.

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  I just resigned, but I can always leave.

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  I don't know.

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  You really?

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  Things will happen, we'll have to watch over the next year.

• 5:57Speaker 01

  I just got a place in New York.

• 5:58Speaker 03

  There you go. Okay, so I felt something. What the fuck am I like selling myself as? Don't email me and call me about this shit, cause I'm not good at it, but-

• 6:04Speaker 01

  Speaking of writing though, you just brought back boobs and loops for Substack.

• 6:07Speaker 03

  I did. I'm making so much money off Substack. I fucking love Substack.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  What?

• 6:11Speaker 03

  You should start a Substack.

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  Is it like OnlyFans for writing?

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  Basically. Basically, yes!

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  It fucking is. Like, I also think like my time is money. That is my mantra now. Like, I used to just be like, I'll go here, I'll do this. Absolutely not. Everybody's like impersonating me or taking something from me, which I'm very flattered by, but I need to be fucking paid.

• 6:29Speaker 01

  Right, and you're getting paid a lot on Substack?

• 6:31Speaker 03

  You get pa- I mean, you can, you do it behind a paywall. Like, if you had a Substack, you could be like, this is what I'm eating this week, but like, people would have to pay to like, see what you're eating.

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  Maybe I should journal.

• 6:39Speaker 03

  You should.

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  On Substack.

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  Oh my god, are you kidding? Like, let's say you were writing a book, you'd have to sell that. Like, you can do it on Substack. Substack, I cannot, and they are not paying me to say this, but I am like-

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  I believe you.

• 6:49Speaker 03

  It has really been the best thing I've done.

• 6:53Speaker 03

  That was when I was on Rich Kids. I was like too drunk to even know what was happening.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  Were you drunk all the time on that show?

• 6:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, we were. Well, I was just going out every single night all the time. Yeah.

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  Was it fun filming that show?

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  Yeah, I mean, look, filming a reality show is actually a lot of work, and people are like, well, what do you do outside of the show? That's my job, bitch. It was a lot. We had to film like five scenes a day. It was exhausting. We had to like travel all over. I mean, it was amazing, but it was like, you had to perform. People think it's so easy to just like have a camera and just ha- no. There's like storylines you have to follow. Like, it was a lot.

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  Was the Instagram thing, was that like the producers being like, you should get mad about this, or were you legit mad?

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  I would think I was mad.

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  Which, in hindsight, is the dumbest-

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  Can I tell you though, like, I'd be mad.

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  I was like, why is my face blurry?

• 7:33Speaker 01

  No, I'd be mad too. I g- I mean, I, I was, I thought you were kinda ahead of your time with that one.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  I think, I appreciate it. Now I look back and I'm kind of like, well, A, I've really not watched it. Like, I don't remember so much from the show, because it was just such a scary time glam-wise and face-wise and everything-wise. So, like, I was in, I'm such a different person from that time, but then also the exact same.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, that's why people love you.

• 7:53Speaker 03

  Thank you. Yeah. But it was a good time. It was just a lot.

• 7:56Speaker 01

  I need to ask you, is that an Aquanaut?

• 7:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

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  I want one so fucking mad.

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  My husband got it for me.

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  Oh, it's gorgeous.

• 8:03Speaker 03

  Well, you have a beautiful watch.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  Thank you, but I want the Aquanaut.

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  This is, yeah, you should get one. In a navy.

• 8:08Speaker 01

  That's what I want. For the summer?

• 8:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, for the summer. Chic.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 8:12Speaker 03

  I have a guy.

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  Send me your guy.

• 8:14Speaker 03

  I will, and he should send me flowers if I send you to him.

• 8:16Speaker 01

  But I am more passionate about my bags these days.

• 8:19Speaker 03

  Really?

• 8:20Speaker 01

  So it start, it all started in Japan.

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  Okay.

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  And I went to Amore, gentlemen. And I was like, do you have a Birkin? Like, just like looking around, they're like, yeah, yeah, yeah. They showed me this one Birkin, but like, it was like, regular strap, like, it couldn't go over the shoulder. And I don't know, I didn't know anything about Birkins aside from the fact that at Hermes, they were impossible to get, like, you had to get, like, whatever. I was like, do you have a shoulder strap? And they pull out, like, thinking, because they don't make those anymore.

• 8:47Speaker 03

  Right, it's hard.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  But they pull out this chocolate brown.

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  Oof.

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  Birkin 45 with a shoulder strap.

• 8:54Speaker 03

  Whoa.

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  From the year 2000, I put it on, I said, that's it.

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  That's it, you know it, you feel it.

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  I said, that's it, I called everyone, not one person said, don't buy that.

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  Yeah, 100%.

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  Even my mom was like, oh my god, I hate you, but get it.

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  Get it, I'm in a reinvention phase with bags, like, I want cool funky bags. Like, I've been wearing a Roach Beach bag for the last, like, five weeks. I literally just threw this on because I was like, I guess I should wear this for a little bit.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 9:15Speaker 03

  I got a Birkin, this was my last bag I was gonna buy myself. It was a brown crocodile 30, glossy, gorgeous, fucking bitch. I, like, basically, like, couldn't breathe. And I was like, this is it, like, we're putting the topper on the bag collection, you don't need any more Hermes bags, unless there's something that's really special or comes in, like, that's meant to be. Bought it in France, brought it home, stolen out of my house two days later.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Oh, I heard about this.

• 9:40Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  Julia told me, she goes, Morgan got robbed.

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  Twice.

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  And she said it was the worst thing that ever happened to her.

• 9:46Speaker 03

  I was camping with my kids for their school, like, camping trip, and we got a call from security, we had security, he fell asleep in the front of the house. I don't want to talk about it, we'll move past that point, I've just now gotten past it. And they smashed through my office door, and they went into our bedroom, ransacked my husband's watches. This is happening a lot in the area, unfortunately, like, it's happening all the time, like, basically, everyone I know has gotten robbed.

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  So

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  and with this glass case of bags that um was in my office that they didn't touch because I think they probably would have thought there was like an alarm or something attached to it. But they took like a lot of bags and a lot of stuff.

• 10:26Speaker 01

  How miserable were you about it?

• 10:27Speaker 03

  I was on the way home, I was like just furious.

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  Like you crying or just like fucking angry?

• 10:34Speaker 03

  Angry. I was angry. I'm not gonna cry over a an item. Like I'm just not. At the end of the day, I'm just like

• 10:40Speaker 01

  Now I'm fucking pissed.

• 10:41Speaker 03

  I'm pissed. It's a violation. Also, they didn't take the box with them for the new Birkin that was on the floor. Like have some respect. Like if you're gonna take a brand new bag, that's impossible to get. Like take the full package.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Right.

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  Also, I saw the video of them climbing over my gate in the middle of the day, but it was the middle of the day. Um, and they had like six bags on each arm and they tossed them over the gate onto the driveway. And I'm like, you are so disrespectful. Like hop politely because you've just scratched the box Kelly I just got. Like

• 11:07Speaker 01

  Right.

• 11:08Speaker 03

  It was like literally just like trash on the floor.

• 11:10Speaker 01

  Were your kids like mommy, what happened?

• 11:11Speaker 03

  They didn't know, thank God, because they had broken like a door that they don't see and they went into our bedroom.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  They would be scared.

• 11:17Speaker 03

  But then they can, of course, and then they came, they other people robbed us again. And then my security caught them on the hillside. I know. And then that was when they took all my jewelry, but we got it back.

• 11:26Speaker 01

  You got it back?

• 11:27Speaker 03

  Thank God. It was funny because there was one specific yellow diamond bracelet that I had that like my husband had got me. It was my favorite one. And I was separated from the rest that we had recovered and I was so upset about it. And I was literally rummaging through a door like a week later, a drawer a week later. And I saw all these like stacks of letters that my dad had written me. And I was like, oh, you know, this is such a bummer. Put them away and to the right of the letters, the the bracelet was curled up, like coiled up like a snake right to the right of it. And I had looked through that drawer and I'm not kidding, like five times to find that bracelet.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 11:55Speaker 03

  So it was like a very meant to be moment. But yeah, it's awful getting robbed.

• 11:59Speaker 01

  Do you believe in like those like meant to be?

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  Signs. I'm such a sign person. I'm like huge on energy, huge on signs. I think everything happens for a reason. Nothing is by accident. I'm like almost too woo woo sometimes where I'm like, are you really turning into this person? But like I eat pizza and drink Coke. Like I'm not like, you know, eating plants and shit.

• 12:15Speaker 01

  I think like that's a, it's a way to like accept life.

• 12:19Speaker 03

  A hundred percent and I feel that way all the time like even like the fact that like I've obviously lost my dad I lost my brother but I do feel like this sense of them every day and being able to like communicate with them and I I you know like you've seen clueless obviously to compare my dad's death to clueless but when she's like oh she walks by the painting of her mom and she's like mom got you know like I still talk to him like that but all of those signs I like look out for signs all the time for everything

• 12:42Speaker 01

  but like grief is so grief is so

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  crazy

• 12:46Speaker 01

  it's not there's no correct way to have grief so whatever however you grieve is that's your like grief is so it's like it's it's it's just you're part of who you are it's no one's grief is it's like a fingerprint no one's grief is the same you know what I mean so like the way you grieve isn't gonna be the way someone else grieves you talking about it could help somebody but it's not gonna be their exact situation right

• 13:09Speaker 03

  a hundred percent and even as I was going into the conversation with you about my dad and the voice in my head was kind of like oh you don't need to like bring this up again but I'm like this is something that has happened to me that's gonna be something that's forever happened to me so it's it's obviously more current because it's fresher but like it's gonna be something that I'm always gonna mention and I don't need to feel bad about it

• 13:26Speaker 01

  and like talking about it the way you talk about it makes you feel better

• 13:29Speaker 03

  yeah a hundred percent it was like and that's the truth like that that bracelet came out of fucking nowhere I looked through that drawer I'm not getting no less than five times I'm like where the fuck is it and it was right there next to a stack of letters that I had just been looking through so yeah but yeah it's it's just that's the thing the thing about these bags is like they're beautiful they're fun to get but like if one day somebody takes them like it's fine

• 13:48Speaker 01

  okay love that

• 13:49Speaker 03

  it's fine it's really annoying

• 13:50Speaker 01

  cause I had it at one point

• 13:52Speaker 03

  it's yeah

• 13:55Speaker 01

  I have the photos to prove it

• 13:57Speaker 03

  yeah it's just like fucking it's yeah

• 14:00Speaker 01

  well Morgan what are you therapist about wait actually quickly you hate Parmesan cheese

• 14:06Speaker 03

  I hate cheese of all kinds

• 14:07Speaker 01

  why

• 14:08Speaker 03

  I like pizza this is very annoying

• 14:10Speaker 01

  yeah you just said you like pizza but Julie was like you have to tell her that ask her about she just said that she hates Parmesan cheese

• 14:14Speaker 03

  I don't like Parmesan cheese on anything I don't let my kids have it on anything sorry don't cut it and I like like I will have pizza but I will not have like Caesar salad with Parmesan cheese on it

• 14:24Speaker 01

  I hate Caesar salad

• 14:25Speaker 03

  okay but I will also not have like feta or any other kind of cheese I will not have cheese in my burrito or like no no no

• 14:34Speaker 01

  but you like pizza

• 14:35Speaker 03

  pizza but like specific pizza like I can't have like I can't have like a foreign type of cheese

• 14:40Speaker 01

  what about the truffle pizza at Toskana What? You don't like that's the best pizza in LA?

• 14:45Speaker 03

  First of all, I hate truffles.

• 14:46Speaker 01

  What?

• 14:47Speaker 03

  Hate. That bullshit that everyone's like, oh, truffles is so lame.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  No, you're lying.

• 14:51Speaker 03

  I hate truffles.

• 14:52Speaker 01

  Why?

• 14:53Speaker 03

  I think they smell like armpit. They're gross.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 14:56Speaker 03

  I don't like truffles. I'm not into truffles. I'm not into Parmesan cheese or really any cheese. But I'll like have a quesadilla too sometimes.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  Okay, I love a quesadilla.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  But like, I'm not like, no crumbly cheese, no blue cheese, no feta.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  I hate blue cheese.

• 15:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, like none of that shit, no.

• 15:10Speaker 01

  Okay. You're born and raised in LA.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  What's an LA restaurant still here that stood the test of time?

• 15:15Speaker 03

  Fuck, they're all gone.

• 15:16Speaker 01

  Do you remember Howl's?

• 15:18Speaker 03

  No.

• 15:18Speaker 01

  They're gone.

• 15:19Speaker 03

  See, like, this city right now is going through something, huh? We need to come, we need to come back.

• 15:24Speaker 01

  We will.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  I think we're coming back soon.

• 15:26Speaker 01

  We fucking will.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  I agree. Are you gonna stay here or you gonna live?

• 15:28Speaker 01

  I'm gonna stay here. LA is the reason I am who I am.

• 15:33Speaker 03

  Uh huh.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  When I was a kid in New York, I was like, get me to LA.

• 15:36Speaker 03

  Really?

• 15:36Speaker 01

  I will never turn my back on LA. I love LA, she loves LA.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  Are you a New York native?

• 15:42Speaker 01

  She's Atlanta native.

• 15:44Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  But like, there's something about this city that if you crack it.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  It's the best.

• 15:49Speaker 01

  It is the best. I'll talk to Sophia about this, she goes, nowhere better.

• 15:53Speaker 03

  Nowhere better.

• 15:53Speaker 01

  Nowhere better. She'll go anywhere, she'll go nowhere better than Los Angeles.

• 15:56Speaker 03

  It's honestly like the weather, like you can't beat the weather. Like, even though like we're like not in the best time, like there's something sparkly in the air. And when it was in its prime, 2014, 2015, how long have you been here?

• 16:06Speaker 01

  Not, since 2018. I was born here and then I moved to New York, so 2018.

• 16:09Speaker 03

  So did you grow up in the city?

• 16:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:10Speaker 03

  Okay, 2018, we were still doing pretty well.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  But I was, I was broke.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, but like, I don't even think you, that's the thing, you don't even need to have money here.

• 16:18Speaker 01

  I know, you just need to know people.

• 16:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, you need to, and also you could literally just go to the beach and get a fucking smoothie.

• 16:24Speaker 01

  I was driving down the.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  PCH, yeah.

• 16:28Speaker 01

  With my best friend Ryan yesterday. Or two days ago. And we were playing The Strokes, Vampire Weekend.

• 16:35Speaker 03

  Nothing better.

• 16:36Speaker 01

  Windows Down, and I was just like, this is it.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  This is it, yeah.

• 16:40Speaker 01

  I'm looking at, and it was sunset, we had just had Cafe Habana for dinner.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Whoa, I have not been there in, okay. All right, we gotta go.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  It was great.

• 16:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is so good there.

• 16:49Speaker 01

  Do you remember when the Mr. Chow was at Malibu Country Mart?

• 16:51Speaker 03

  What, they closed there too?

• 16:53Speaker 01

  It was Mr. That's like a cursed location.

• 16:54Speaker 03

  That is a weird location.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  No, it's like, it was Mr. Chow, and then it was something else, and now I think it's Lucky's.

• 17:01Speaker 03

  Okay, I feel like Lucky's is gonna do well there.

• 17:03Speaker 01

  I think it has done well. And then there's also, um, Clark's now.

• 17:07Speaker 03

  I know, I need to go to Clark's.

• 17:08Speaker 01

  Let's go together.

• 17:09Speaker 03

  Let's go together.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  I'll go, I'll go with you to Clark's.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Can I tell you, I've told my husband, we need to take the kids five times, and he's like, rolled his eyes, and we need to go there.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  No, the Von Gley at Clark's is-

• 17:16Speaker 03

  The Von, Von Gley's my-

• 17:19Speaker 03

  I'll fu- I'm not leaving. Don't, I'm not leaving. Von Gley's my favorite pasta.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  I love Von Gley, I don't fuck with clams. But I love the sauce on it. Cause I like, like, an Olio Olio.

• 17:27Speaker 03

  Olio Olio. Okay, we just made it for dinner last week, and my assistant had to get peppers, and she's like, they only have green peppers. I said, absolutely not, we need red.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, you need red.

• 17:35Speaker 03

  You need, it's a part of the dish. My husband was gonna be like, okay. I'm like, no.

• 17:38Speaker 01

  What, no, there's no point. It needs to be like, a little spicy, oh.

• 17:41Speaker 03

  Nothing better. You know who used to have the best San Ambrose?

• 17:44Speaker 01

  Really?

• 17:45Speaker 03

  Yes, they, they're-

• 17:46Speaker 01

  They're opening in Brentwood.

• 17:47Speaker 03

  I know, and Beverly Hills.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Do you think they're gonna, it's gonna be the same?

• 17:49Speaker 03

  I, I really wish it wasn't happening.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  Why? The one in New York hits every time.

• 17:56Speaker 03

  I mean, I've been going there for longer than I care to admit, and I just feel like, I don't know, it was such my New York spot, why is it coming?

• 18:04Speaker 01

  That's how I feel about Chipperianni.

• 18:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, Chipperianni here, like, I know, like, I don't-

• 18:08Speaker 01

  It blows dick.

• 18:09Speaker 03

  I know.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  And I'm not afraid to say that.

• 18:11Speaker 03

  No, I agree.

• 18:11Speaker 01

  Cause they dragged me out of there once, cause they thought, Julia fainted in the bathroom, and I went to go check on her. And she, I don't know why she fainted. She fainted, and I went to go get her.

• 18:20Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  I went to go check on her, and I went to go to the girls' bathroom. And I was like, are you okay? He's knocking on the door. And I'm like, okay. And I opened the door, and I'm like, she fainted. He grabs me by my neck, dr- dr- drags me down the stairs and throws me out the street.

• 18:35Speaker 03

  Can I tell you something else that's really random? That's not even close to what you just said, cause that's horrific. But my mom has made reservations there, and every time, they're like, we don't have your reservation. And they're like-

• 18:43Speaker 01

  Who's got one?

• 18:44Speaker 03

  They're very-

• 18:44Speaker 01

  Cause it's empty.

• 18:44Speaker 03

  They're very rude to her, and like, you can't be rude to Susan, that's crazy. It was just, yeah, rude to her. She's like, I'm done with this fucking place.

• 18:52Speaker 01

  It's also like-

• 18:53Speaker 03

  It's weird.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  It's weird. I'm only going to Chipperianni in New York or in Vegas.

• 18:58Speaker 03

  So wait, let me ask you a question. So you grew up in the city, and then you obviously came here, but then you're going to New York. How often are you going to New York?

• 19:03Speaker 01

  A lot, I've been going there. I go like, I go for like, two weeks out of the month.

• 19:07Speaker 03

  Wow, and you still think you're gonna live here?

• 19:09Speaker 01

  I think I'm bi-coastal.

• 19:10Speaker 03

  I so, I think I'm also bi-coastal.

• 19:13Speaker 01

  I like, I can properly say that I am bi-coastal. I like, really can properly say it.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Morgan, what are you therapist about today?

• 19:24Speaker 03

  That my jeans are so tight.

• 19:26Speaker 01

  They do not look tight.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  They're tight. What am I therapist about? I fucking don't.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  You came in complaining about a cupcake.

• 19:32Speaker 03

  I, because I had one cupcake and I woke up and I had to like roll out of bed, I was so swollen. So I was like irritated about that.

• 19:37Speaker 01

  Where was the cupcake? Do you remember the cupcake place, um, that had the giant cupcakes in New York? It was a crumble for cupcakes?

• 19:45Speaker 03

  No, what is that?

• 19:47Speaker 01

  They would like give them at SoulCycle.

• 19:48Speaker 03

  Whoa, that seems like it doesn't make sense.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  No, I, well, SoulCycle doesn't make sense.

• 19:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, but why were we getting, why were we on a spin class and they're getting a cookie or crumble?

• 19:56Speaker 01

  Cause that was SoulCycle.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah, no, I don't remember, but my husband, this is adorable, my husband made Funfetti cupcakes with our daughter last night and our son, so they were like homemade, they were delicious. I had one, I literally woke up and was like, I couldn't even, I couldn't see for like the first two hours.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  It happens. Are you gluten intolerant?

• 20:12Speaker 03

  No, I.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  You might be.

• 20:13Speaker 03

  I might be, you know?

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Have you been to, okay, let me ask you about some of the newer LA spots.

• 20:18Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  Living Room?

• 20:19Speaker 03

  I, okay, so I've had people literally text me being like, should I nominate you? You should join. And I just haven't like made my way.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  So let me tell you what I love about it.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  Okay, tell me, should I join?

• 20:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:28Speaker 03

  Are you a member?

• 20:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:29Speaker 03

  So you need to do the thing for me.

• 20:30Speaker 01

  Okay, I will.

• 20:30Speaker 03

  Okay, done.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  It's like half inside, half outside.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  Inside you go dance, outside, they bring you drinks and like you smoke cigarettes, outside drinks, it's like a vibe. Louise and I went there for one, I think I've told this story a million times.

• 20:43Speaker 03

  Do it.

• 20:43Speaker 01

  One drink. By the end of it, Louise was.

• 20:46Speaker 03

  This way?

• 20:46Speaker 01

  Literally like falling over, like we had the night of our life, just ripping cigarettes, smoke, or drinking, going inside to dance when we wanted to dance.

• 20:54Speaker 03

  Okay, so I need to join.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 20:56Speaker 03

  Okay, so is the food good?

• 20:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, the food is amazing. The food's 10 out of 10 and they have an amakase bar.

• 21:01Speaker 03

  Okay, cause here's the thing, I really, my tolerance for bad food, I can't do it anymore.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  What's your favorite restaurant in L, in LA?

• 21:06Speaker 03

  Ebaldi.

• 21:08Speaker 01

  Ebaldi over Giorgio Baldi?

• 21:09Speaker 03

  A hundred percent.

• 21:10Speaker 01

  Why?

• 21:10Speaker 03

  Better food.

• 21:12Speaker 01

  Okay, really?

• 21:13Speaker 03

  I mean, I like Giorgio Baldi when I want to be adventurous and like drive all the way there. And it's like, obviously very beautiful. And the food is obviously on par, but I just think Ebaldi is like a spot. Like Roxy and I, we would go to Ebaldi all the time. It's just the most consistent and constant place that I've been going for years. I mean, I know I need to like make my way down to Silver Lake and do all that stuff and like go to places that like are everyone's raving about, but I just don't have the time.

• 21:33Speaker 01

  Have you, what's your thoughts on El Pastel?

• 21:36Speaker 03

  I don't go there. And I never went there.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  I like it.

• 21:39Speaker 03

  It is good, but like there's something about the vibe. I just

• 21:43Speaker 01

  The vibe is soft.

• 21:44Speaker 03

  If I'm on Canon, I'm going to Ebaldi. I don't want to say hi to every bitch that I knew in high school at El Pastel.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  So El Pastel has this thing called the capricosa salad?

• 21:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, of course. Hello? Amazing.

• 21:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's to die for.

• 21:55Speaker 03

  Also, they used to have a chopped like green salad with like andive and they would add shrimp and mango to it. I don't know if they still have it, but that was really good. But every time I ate it, I was like, I also don't like this.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  They have this pasta that they, they have this pasta. It's like the swirly and it's um sausage and broccoli and like, it's like Olio Olio, but with sausage and broccoli and swirly pasta. It's like

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Okay, so, okay, we need to, we'll do that. Also, by the way, I love this mic.

• 22:18Speaker 01

  You do?

• 22:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like thick and proper. No, this is easy. It goes with you. It's very stressful to have to like play into a mic that doesn't move.

• 22:24Speaker 01

  Right.

• 22:25Speaker 03

  I also constantly move.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  Yeah, constantly.

• 22:27Speaker 03

  I'm like forward, backward, sideways. Tell me, what?

• 22:31Speaker 01

  One of my highest compliments I've ever gotten was from you.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  What?

• 22:34Speaker 01

  You complimented, you said outfit good.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 22:38Speaker 01

  Or you said good outfit.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  I can't, no, that's one thing about me, I cannot text.

• 22:41Speaker 01

  And I didn't realize how big of a deal it was. And all my friends called me and they said Morgan Stewart just complimented your outfit.

• 22:46Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  It was in, I was in Canon and I wore a white Gucci button down.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  Yes, yes, yes, that was a really good outfit.

• 22:53Speaker 01

  And you said cute outfit.

• 22:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was really good. I feel like it was so weird we hadn't met earlier.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  I know. And then we saw each other at the Dior Cafe.

• 23:00Speaker 03

  Okay, and now we're both going tonight?

• 23:01Speaker 01

  Yes. Oh my god, and we're going to the Dior show tonight.

• 23:04Speaker 03

  Did you get the key?

• 23:05Speaker 01

  Of course I got the key. It's my new keychain.

• 23:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's a cute key.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Let me tell you something about Jonathan Anderson. He will take a brand and put it to the top.

• 23:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:12Speaker 01

  I love, since Loewe, like he, he does it for me.

• 23:15Speaker 03

  He's brilliant.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  He's brilliant.

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's really nice to see.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  The book tote collection was brilliant.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:20Speaker 01

  The Dracula hoodie.

• 23:21Speaker 03

  All of it.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  But yeah, I'm really excited. Are you gonna go to the after party?

• 23:23Speaker 03

  Yes, but like what is, can we talk about the after party? Cause I'm confused.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  It's confused. It's not at Bar Chateau, it's at Chateau Marmont.

• 23:29Speaker 03

  I think I want to blackout, but like who's, I just like, how are they holding this?

• 23:32Speaker 01

  I'm ready. To after the show.

• 23:35Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 23:36Speaker 01

  Get in the car and start drinking.

• 23:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm probably gonna have a cocktail before the show, right? One?

• 23:42Speaker 01

  Well, my issue is if I.

• 23:43Speaker 03

  Start.

• 23:44Speaker 01

  It makes my cheeks really rosy.

• 23:47Speaker 03

  Okay, but can't we take something for that?

• 23:49Speaker 04

  You also have glam.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  I have, I have a great team.

• 23:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 23:53Speaker 01

  I have a great team. I have a great stylist, Sydney Lopez, a great glam.

• 23:56Speaker 03

  I love Sydney.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  You know Sydney?

• 23:58Speaker 03

  Are you kidding me? Joe Jonas is my husband's best friend.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  What? Why don't we do a big dinner?

• 24:03Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. Louise, are you down?

• 24:05Speaker 03

  And Sydney is like such a sweetie. Like, she's such a good girl.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  Sydney also just like, no, she's like tuned, fine tuned by, I came in the other day, I, I never cry. And somebody on my team had to leave for another job. It was, it was so nothing personal. She just had a better opportunity, but she's been with me since day one and I never cry and I just love her so much.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  That I just started hysterically sobbing. Ally, I love you.

• 24:32Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  And she's like literally like believed in me since day one, like, and I walked into the house.

• 24:40Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Hysterically sobbing and I had to do a fitting for this commercial I was doing and Sydney was in. And Sydney was doing it with me and Sydney brought stuff, like she also like, Sydney will like personal shop for me.

• 24:52Speaker 03

  She's the sweetest girl and I love her. And she's kind of only doing guys.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's good at it.

• 24:57Speaker 03

  Which I also think is really important. Like, you want to find somebody that like has their niche and knows what they're doing.

• 25:01Speaker 01

  And have it be a woman.

• 25:02Speaker 03

  Yeah. Amen. Amen. But yeah, no, we definitely should do a big dinner.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  Yeah, come on.

• 25:07Speaker 03

  Either here or in New York. Cause I feel like Joe's also all over.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Well, they're always, she styles Joe well.

• 25:12Speaker 03

  I know. He looks great. The tour stuff looks great. The street style stuff looks great. She's doing all three of those boys.

• 25:17Speaker 01

  I know.

• 25:18Speaker 03

  Have you met all of them?

• 25:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  They were like the first people I ever met in the industry.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're very nice boys.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  They're lovely.

• 25:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, they really are.

• 25:24Speaker 01

  So famous for so long.

• 25:25Speaker 03

  I know. That's the thing about them, like consistently famous to the same level is kind of crazy.

• 25:29Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 25:30Speaker 03

  Like, that doesn't happen.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  No, but for them it does.

• 25:32Speaker 03

  I know.

• 25:33Speaker 01

  Did you, okay, this is completely off topic. Did you like party in L.A. hard in the early 2000s?

• 25:38Speaker 03

  What's considered the early 2000s? Like 2005?

• 25:40Speaker 01

  Four, five, yeah. Three, four, five. Like, did you ever see Lindsay, did you ever see Lindsay Lohan at a club?

• 25:45Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 25:46Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 25:47Speaker 03

  Lindsay's like the queen of the queens. I mean, I wasn't doing it that that's very early on, but like, yeah, I mean, I feel like I've like been around. I'm literally, yeah.

• 25:54Speaker 01

  What's the club called?

• 25:56Speaker 03

  Ladue. Yeah, I used to go to Ladue all the time. Ladue was so fun, but I was still like

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Do you feel that LA coming back? Ever? Or do you think we're done?

• 26:04Speaker 03

  Ever? No, I think, well, also, the thing is, is like, when I hear people that are like, like when I was 20, okay, when I was like 17 to 27, I was literally going out every, it was like if you, okay, let's say like 21 to 25, it was a different club every night and you were going fucking hard.

• 26:22Speaker 01

  That doesn't happen anymore.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  And I feel like the the youth isn't doing that now. Now everyone's like drinking coffee and getting up at 7 to go to yoga.

• 26:28Speaker 01

  Not in New York.

• 26:29Speaker 03

  Okay, good, because I just, when you ask me if it's gonna come back, come back, I'm like, do the people want to do that?

• 26:34Speaker 01

  People here don't in New York. My friends are going out every single night.

• 26:38Speaker 03

  Well, I feel like I see that from Julia, like on TikTok and stuff.

• 26:41Speaker 01

  Every single night. Well, she slowed down a little bit, but Peyton has not slowed down.

• 26:44Speaker 03

  I like Peyton.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  I love Peyton.

• 26:46Speaker 03

  Peyton's a little spicy and funny.

• 26:48Speaker 01

  She's a little, she's a little chihuahua.

• 26:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  Peyton will getcha.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, I like her.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:53Speaker 03

  I like that.

• 26:54Speaker 01

  Because she's it.

• 26:55Speaker 03

  I think LA is gonna come back, but it's gonna really take like, because I also think the industry is so different now, like before we used to have like a hold on the industry and like things used to get like only made here. I think things are diversifying and moving out. Also, things are so expensive, so I just, I don't know. It's gonna come back, but I just don't know if it's gonna come back to that level.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  Okay, what do you think? Is like the trend of the summer that hasn't been announced yet? What do you think the color of the summer is? And what do you think the trend of the summer is?

• 27:18Speaker 03

  Okay, I think the color of the summer is navy.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Tell me more.

• 27:23Speaker 03

  I'm just like really drawn to navy. I think like dark, solid colors, like that are like done very sophisticatedly or like gorgeous. I think that's good, like a navy one piece, navy shorts, navy like cardigan, navy tank, like navy.

• 27:36Speaker 01

  I see that.

• 27:36Speaker 03

  Lot of navy.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  I've been saying orange, but I speak out of my ass.

• 27:39Speaker 03

  I love orange. I love orange all the time. I get it, so do I. Navy, and I do feel like, what was the second part of the question?

• 27:47Speaker 01

  A trend that hasn't like been discovered yet that you think is a trend of the summer?

• 27:50Speaker 03

  Well, I'm just gonna say we're coming out with these flare khaki shorts that are gonna be the trend of the summer.

• 27:54Speaker 01

  Flare khaki.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, so cute. Kinda looks like a skirt, but they're shorts. They're so cute.

• 27:59Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:00Speaker 03

  And I definitely think things are just becoming like funkier, more interesting, more textured, more layered, like different fabrics. Like it's just sort of like, girls are done with being minimalistic. They wanna be like loud and bold and have fun.

• 28:10Speaker 01

  Do you think the love story CBK was the end of that minimalistic? Like that was like the final hurrah?

• 28:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it's easier to dress minimalistically because people are usually just like running out and they're like, I'm gonna grab this shirt with these pants. Like,

• 28:21Speaker 01

  The thing with CBK and everyone trying to be CBK is the reason CBK was CBK is because CBK wasn't trying to be CBK.

• 28:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, a hundred percent.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  Do you know what I mean?

• 28:28Speaker 03

  I got it. I fucking latched on and did it. Yeah.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do you know what I mean? It's like CBK was like in these, like, you can't be CBK.

• 28:36Speaker 03

  No, and also like, again, truly like the effortless nature that that woman walked around in, like, I mean, even the clothes were so ahead of its time. Like her knowing of fashion was something that like cannot be emulated, it cannot be studied, like no matter how hard you try. Like even the stupid headband with the fucking ponytail, like that's bananas. Because it's so nothing, but like, I'm not putting a headband down with a ponytail.

• 28:56Speaker 01

  It will only look good on her.

• 28:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it's, and I also think she like got broadcast out to like a very young generation who didn't know who she was. And it was like, oh my God, but it's like, no, you can't.

• 29:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 29:06Speaker 03

  We gotta stop, we gotta move on.

• 29:07Speaker 01

  We have to move on.

• 29:08Speaker 03

  I also think like, girls need to just stop being like, like, we all just need to live for ourselves, shop our closets, have a good time and chill the fuck out.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  Right.

• 29:14Speaker 03

  It's come, it's become like way too manic, way too stressful, like the shopping, the needing the things, I don't have this, like, it, it's minute to minute. Now, even to myself, I said to my assistant yesterday, I said, I'm not gonna buy clothes. Because I have so much stuff to the point where I don't know how to put things together anymore. Like my creative brain has shut down. And I can't keep filling that hole with more clothes.

• 29:33Speaker 01

  Oh shit.

• 29:35Speaker 03

  You can, it's fun, it's new, but like, I, I'm like, okay, this is, I'm getting warped in this room.

• 29:40Speaker 01

  I've been relying on retail therapy a little bit and I clocked myself the other day, but I have been going to this vintage store. They have one in New York and LA, it's appointment only.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  What's it called?

• 29:48Speaker 01

  It's called Moth Food.

• 29:49Speaker 03

  I don't know what that is, but fabulous.

• 29:51Speaker 01

  It's fabulous.

• 29:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  And this is from Mothfood.

• 29:53Speaker 03

  Okay, like, I, I have a vintage t-shirt I'll send you too, by the way.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  Oh, I love a vintage t-shirt.

• 29:58Speaker 03

  He's amazing. My husband gets like the best ones.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  I get all my shit there from Mothfood now. Like, I just go and we go and they have everything. It's all curated. It's all very well organized. It's, it's the best.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  It's fun to buy things if it's adding to you, but I feel like I was just buying things in a dark hole on my computer and I'm like, I'm not wearing this.

• 30:12Speaker 01

  I don't love online shopping.

• 30:13Speaker 03

  I hate online shopping.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  I don't, I did buy this online and I was like, this might not fit. I turned to my best friend. I was like, if this doesn't fit, this can be yours. Cause I'm like, this is a hit or a miss.

• 30:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:22Speaker 01

  But like, online shop, there is something about picking something off the rack.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  Emotional.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  I hate trying shit on, though.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  So do I. And I, I'll buy things and I'll try them on and they won't fit and it'll be too late to return them.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, and then it's like, what now?

• 30:33Speaker 03

  What, what now? I hate that. Are we allowed to drink water?

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's so funny. You are not the first to ask that.

• 30:39Speaker 03

  I mean, I also ask it on my own show, cause I'm like, well, it's weird because, but also if you're sitting for an hour, people drink, they look at their phone. Like, it's crazy to have an uninterrupted conversation for a whole fucking hour.

• 30:48Speaker 01

  I know.

• 30:49Speaker 03

  Like, trust me, I'm like, I'm sitting in my podcast now and I'm like, oh my god, this is so long and I'm having anxiety.

• 30:55Speaker 01

  I know, but I don't feel that way with you.

• 30:56Speaker 03

  Mm-mm. I read you very well.

• 30:59Speaker 01

  I, yeah, yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  Did you know you were gonna be famous?

• 31:02Speaker 01

  No, but I've always wanted to be.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  But, so did you kinda know?

• 31:05Speaker 01

  No, I, no, I worked at a record label.

• 31:07Speaker 03

  I know, but I like felt like, I feel like people who become famous know they're gonna become famous.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  I never knew. I, I've always wanted it. I've been desperate for it. Desperate. Like, I, anything for it, but, and I've always been quite open about that.

• 31:19Speaker 03

  Which is why, yes, which is why it happens. It's always the people that are like, I guess I'll do that. Ooh, creepy.

• 31:23Speaker 01

  No.

• 31:23Speaker 03

  Own it.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  Own it.

• 31:24Speaker 03

  Own it or don't do it.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  I want it. I want it. I want to make people laugh. I want people to clap for me. I wanna be entertaining. I want to entertain you.

• 31:33Speaker 03

  I wanna do all those things as well.

• 31:37Speaker 01

  Are you ready to get into the Tell Me What's Wrong's?

• 31:39Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, I don't even know what this is. I can't wait.

• 31:40Speaker 01

  Okay, so these are the pussies right in and they tell us what's wrong and we give them advice.

• 31:43Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm scared.

• 31:44Speaker 01

  So you'll be great for it.

• 31:44Speaker 03

  Okay, good. Can I sit like this? Cause I need to.

• 31:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. Shoes are those. They're gorgeous.

• 31:49Speaker 03

  Chanel. There's no soul on the couch.

• 31:53Speaker 01

  Do you ever wish Chanel made men's or do you think it would take away?

• 31:56Speaker 03

  We don't need to do it. I think like there's certain things, but no, I don't think Chanel needs to make men's.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 32:00Speaker 03

  It's a very feminine brand to me.

• 32:02Speaker 01

  I know, but like, I tried some shit on in Chanel the other day and I was like, this could work.

• 32:06Speaker 03

  Okay, like a blazer, like.

• 32:07Speaker 01

  But it was like $10,000.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  100%.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  And like, I can't do that to myself.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:11Speaker 01

  Not for this.

• 32:12Speaker 03

  No, totally.

• 32:13Speaker 01

  As a Gen Z-er, I'm actually stressed out about everything all the time.

• 32:17Speaker 03

  Yes, okay.

• 32:21Speaker 03

  I mean, I'm a millennial and I'm stressed out all the time, too, so.

• 32:23Speaker 01

  It's politics, but also just my peers in this generation, et cetera, et cetera. Thing is, I'm already in therapy and my therapist isn't the best at handling this topic since she's far older and cannot fully relate. We've been together for a very long time, since early high school, so she's also kind of family at this point. What do I do here?

• 32:38Speaker 03

  Bye. Time to break up. Just broke up with my therapist.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Yeah, me too, actually.

• 32:41Speaker 03

  It was too long. I really like her and you know, you get, the thing about therapy is that you get stuck in it and you don't want to have to re-explain your problems to a new person.

• 32:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 32:48Speaker 03

  It's very convenient, but if you're literally having an issue that your therapist cannot relate to, it is time to move on. Whoever wrote that already knows that, by the way.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. I just got, I just, I'm like soft breaking up with my old therapist and I'm starting a new one. This new one is amazing. Amazing. I had the best therapy today.

• 33:06Speaker 03

  Girl or boy?

• 33:07Speaker 01

  Girl. Older, older. And like, she's incredible because she just, it's not about understanding generation to generation. I mean, it could be, but it's really not. Like, she like kinda hit the nail on the head with me today.

• 33:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:18Speaker 01

  She like hit the nail on the head. I was really upset about something someone had wrote about me.

• 33:22Speaker 03

  I get it.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  And she was like, "Well, what happened after that?" And I was like...

• 33:27Speaker 03

  Oh, I love a follow-up.

• 33:28Speaker 01

  And I was like, well, I was very upset. And she said, "Okay, but then like, did your podcast do well? Like, did more people watch?" And I was like, "Yeah, a lot more people watched." And she said, "So if you could go back in time, would you have less people watch?"

• 33:40Speaker 03

  Oh, she's like leading you to water in a very clear way, but like also making you do the work.

• 33:44Speaker 01

  And I was like, "No, I guess I wouldn't."

• 33:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:47Speaker 01

  And she was like, "So, there's your answer."

• 33:49Speaker 03

  See, yeah, when, when they put too much information out and you're having to sift through and be like, "Well, just tell me."

• 33:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, and she taught me this thing. She was like, "Palms." She makes me put my palms up like this. She's like, "You can't, um, deal with the past, you can't deal with the present or the future. You only think you can have is the present. Palms." Palms up.

• 34:05Speaker 03

  Guys, palms up.

• 34:06Speaker 01

  Take me.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  That's the name of the, that's the name of the episode, Palms Up.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  Palms up.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  I love, that's my tradition. I like name the episode for the host because usually they're like,

• 34:13Speaker 01

  Can I come on your show?

• 34:14Speaker 03

  Let's, let's lock it in. Let's lock it in.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  I want to spend every second of my life with you.

• 34:19Speaker 03

  No, I would love it so fucking much. And we will have a totally different conversation.

• 34:22Speaker 01

  Well, I need to go to dinner with you and Roxy.

• 34:24Speaker 03

  Let, by the-

• 34:25Speaker 01

  Because she, no one makes me cackle like that way that woman does.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  I know.

• 34:30Speaker 01

  Alice and I, I for Roxy. Like every time we go to an event, we're like, we are so fucking excited to see Roxy.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  You know what's interesting, and not to bring up the signs again, because we, she just came on my podcast and we hit, so Roxy's May 21st, I'm May 22nd.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Is she a Taurus?

• 34:41Speaker 03

  She's a Gemini. We're both Gemini, but we're literally a year apart. We're, we have like a soul connection and I just found out that she has Aquarius placements and I had never known that. You know how she's just kind of like, like it's a little loopie doo?

• 34:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:52Speaker 03

  I'm like, this makes so much sense.

• 34:54Speaker 01

  But she's not loop-de-doo. She's like-

• 34:55Speaker 03

  She's sharp as a tack, but she's a little just like, I don't care. Like it's-

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, like you see in an Instagram gate, she's sitting there, huh.

• 35:01Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:02Speaker 01

  Huh, but you can tell she was on your side.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  Right?

• 35:04Speaker 01

  You could tell the second that that ended, she said to you, I'd be pissed too.

• 35:08Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, also like the fact that these things are coming back up now.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  No, the Instagram gate is funnier than I recall.

• 35:13Speaker 03

  I know.

• 35:14Speaker 01

  I was watching that and I was like actually cackling. I sent it to Luis, she goes, I've seen it.

• 35:18Speaker 03

  I don't even remember where we were.

• 35:20Speaker 01

  You were in New York.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Okay. See, I didn't even know that.

• 35:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm starting a new job as a nurse and it's a lot. Like I knew what I was getting myself into, but I've never dealt with stress in hours like this. What are some great ways besides this pod? Oh my God, thank you.

• 35:33Speaker 03

  Sweet.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  To help me de-stress when I'm coming home from work, especially on late nights. TV.

• 35:37Speaker 03

  TV or smoke a joint or drink a lot of water. I don't know.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  A joint and a television show? Go into a television show with a, go to Shondaland.

• 35:45Speaker 03

  Shondaland is what we need to do?

• 35:47Speaker 01

  Visit, get a passport to Shondaland.

• 35:49Speaker 03

  Yeah. It's not a euphoria for you. Like we need calm.

• 35:52Speaker 01

  Go to Shondaland. There's Scandal, How to Get Away with Murder, Grey's Anatomy, Bridgerton, which I've never seen, but I've heard it's great.

• 35:57Speaker 03

  I haven't either. Yep.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Shondaland will take you to places that you don't know exist. You will fall, because also what I've noticed about Shondaland, now that I've seen so many of her shows.

• 36:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  She casts theater actors. They're all theater, they're all, they all come from theater backgrounds.

• 36:12Speaker 03

  Like she's ta- like talented.

• 36:13Speaker 01

  They're coming from like off-Broadway Broadway shows. Like they are like, they like Viola Davis, Kerry, Kerry Washington has a theater background. Like these, all the people in Scandal, like I went to a play reading the other day. Kaia did a reading at like one of, like a playhouse.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  And the guy who wrote the play, I'm looking at him, I'm like, Is that, how is Doyle from Scandal? And it was, and Tom from Scandal was in the audience supporting him.

• 36:38Speaker 03

  Okay, can I tell you something?

• 36:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:40Speaker 03

  I've never seen Scandal.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  You've never seen Scandal?

• 36:43Speaker 03

  I need to do it, right?

• 36:44Speaker 01

  The show, Scandal is the greatest, one of the greatest shows I've ever seen in my life. I've actually seen Scandal three times. It is Julia's favorite show.

• 36:50Speaker 03

  Okay, I'm, I am watching Scandal, starting to.

• 36:52Speaker 01

  You have to text, will you text me and Julia?

• 36:55Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  In a group chat?

• 36:56Speaker 03

  We're gonna do numbers after.

• 36:57Speaker 01

  We'll do numbers after this? And, cause that's like, Julia and I, that, oh, and Peyton.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  Peyton, I, I feel like I need Peyton to like me.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Peyton loves you.

• 37:05Speaker 03

  I.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  And by the way, Peyton loves Scandal. We put her on to Scandal, it's the best show of all time. Gladiators ensues, you gotta just get behind it.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 37:11Speaker 01

  You will not be able to stop.

• 37:12Speaker 03

  Okay, have you seen Veep?

• 37:13Speaker 01

  I'm on season two of Veep, or three, it's phenomenal.

• 37:17Speaker 03

  Phenomenal. We always re-watch Veep every two years.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  It's very hard for me to get, like, a comedy show really has to, like, I, I, it's funny, cause I used to watch comedy as a kid a lot, like 30 Rock.

• 37:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:26Speaker 01

  How I Met Your Mother, Friends, I was in and out of, but it was How I Met Your Mother and 30 Rock for me that were like really the ones, and Girls.

• 37:33Speaker 03

  Girl, I'm gonna start re-watching Girls again.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  Okay, but I can't start re-watching Girls until I finish her book.

• 37:38Speaker 03

  I also feel like, I don't, I'm, obviously don't have OCD, but like, I'm on high alert of everything all the time.

• 37:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:43Speaker 03

  Like, I'm always like, I don't wanna think that, cause it might happen.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  Right. That's what, that, that is OCD, my love.

• 37:48Speaker 03

  Okay, so maybe I'm a little OCD.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:50Speaker 03

  But like, it's not.

• 37:50Speaker 01

  I just called you my love.

• 37:51Speaker 03

  No, I, by the way, I'm, all day, please.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  I've been using my love all day. I've been using my love all day, but people get really, people either love it or get angry about it.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  But I'm also not like tapping on things, sorry, is that ignorant comedy?

• 38:01Speaker 01

  No, it's not offensive. I do that, I used to do that.

• 38:05Speaker 03

  And now you don't need to.

• 38:06Speaker 01

  Now my OCD has turned into much more of just like.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  But do you have any, like, do you, like, can you just, like, shower, no problem, like, you just, like?

• 38:14Speaker 01

  No.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  No, you have to.

• 38:15Speaker 01

  I, I have a, showering's actually one of my hardest things.

• 38:18Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 38:19Speaker 01

  And that's why I love my New York apartment so much, cause the pressure is so good, so.

• 38:23Speaker 03

  I understand that. Pressure's very important.

• 38:25Speaker 01

  It's very important, and it makes showering better, and showering's hard for me, cause I have OCD, and when the shower, and, so basically the shower I have here, I have to turn on two knobs, I have to turn on the first knob, and then the second knob. In New York, it's one knob.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  One knob, okay, good.

• 38:36Speaker 01

  And it just, like, makes it easier.

• 38:37Speaker 03

  And you have, like, a system, like, hair first, body first, like?

• 38:40Speaker 01

  No, no, no.

• 38:40Speaker 03

  It doesn't.

• 38:40Speaker 01

  Well, sometimes, but I have, I have a system, that I won't even say out loud, cause it's just like, for therapy, but like, it's, yeah, I have a system, I like, have to think certain things, at, like, it's cra, it's crazy, people have no idea.

• 38:53Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 38:54Speaker 01

  Have no idea.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  Was this always the case?

• 38:56Speaker 01

  Always. I, we, I knew it was bad in COVID, I couldn't get out of bed, and I said, okay, I need to get out of bed, cause it was affecting my work. Once it was affecting my work at the, I, cause I used to work at a record label. Once it was affecting my work, I was like, I have a problem.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  You got it.

• 39:07Speaker 01

  I'm not let, cause I would let it fuck up everything. I was like, I can't let it fuck up this. I know this opportunity is too good to be true.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  It was, I was very fulfilled and I was like, I can't fuck this up. So I got on meds and I just switched my meds and they're amazing.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  Okay, good.

• 39:19Speaker 01

  I need help choosing between two men.

• 39:21Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  I have a thing for both of them, but not super interested in an open relationship. Well, what?

• 39:33Speaker 03

  Oh my God, that was funny.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  Or, or even, or even like polycued, et cetera. Yeah, neither am I. One of them is very smart, relatively handsome, skinny kid who can cook and hold the conversation with me. The other is an athletic golden retriever, L M I O.

• 39:47Speaker 03

  He sounds dumber.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, and the dumber ones are bad or worse in bed.

• 39:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  We all have three, we all three have the hot, hots and I want to make a decision on who to cuff for summer.

• 39:57Speaker 03

  That was a very poorly worded.

• 39:59Speaker 01

  No, it was me. We all, we all three have the hots and I want to make a decision on who to cuff for summer. What do you think? Not super serious, just looking for a tiebreaker, L M I O. Go with the smart one that can cook. He'll.

• 40:11Speaker 03

  But we all have the hots, meaning the three of them together?

• 40:14Speaker 01

  I'm not understanding that.

• 40:15Speaker 03

  I don't get it.

• 40:16Speaker 01

  I don't understand that. I don't understand that. My thing is go with the guy who can cook.

• 40:20Speaker 03

  Go with the guy that can cook.

• 40:21Speaker 01

  What a beautiful problem to have.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  Also, she said he was skinny and fun. Didn't she say funny or something?

• 40:25Speaker 01

  You know what? I think this is a gay man.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  Oh, of course it is.

• 40:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  Why did we think woman right away? It was to, it's totally a gay.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  This is a gay guy.

• 40:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, okay.

• 40:35Speaker 01

  Cause it goes straight into open relationship. I, I think this is a gay guy.

• 40:39Speaker 03

  But then also like, why are we cutting someone? They just don't want to deal?

• 40:42Speaker 01

  Oh my God, I'm like steamy for this person.

• 40:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I would totally just like, keep that going.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, have a messy summer. Charlie's releasing new music, Ariana's releasing new music, like come on.

• 40:52Speaker 03

  I was thinking about the tour on the way here, but also the thing is if you cut one, you're just gonna want them to come back. So you might as well, if you're all three in it, you might as well just stay in it.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  And watch Scandal. I prescribed Scandal. She fucks them both the whole time.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  She, oh shit.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Oh my God, sorry.

• 41:03Speaker 03

  It's fine.

• 41:03Speaker 01

  It's the, it's the, it's like the plot.

• 41:05Speaker 03

  It's the whole point.

• 41:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:06Speaker 03

  Okay, I can't wait.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  I prescribe scandal, talk about a good love triangle, have a love triangle summer.

• 41:11Speaker 03

  I agree, I, I mean-

• 41:12Speaker 01

  Be messy, be outside, go in the, like, go fuck around.

• 41:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, two people and you're all into each other, I'm into it. Hopefully we understood that correctly, because it was a little bit of a loop-de-loop.

• 41:22Speaker 01

  No, I think we did.

• 41:23Speaker 03

  Okay, good, good.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  They were just deciding between, like, if you want to marry one, marry the one that can cook, obviously.

• 41:28Speaker 03

  And who's smarter, you can't marry someone dumb.

• 41:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can't.

• 41:30Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 41:31Speaker 01

  I haven't had a crush, a real honest-to-God crush in years, like, maybe since the start of college. I'm 26 and single and have been since, like I said, the start of college. I just legit don't get it, I get attracted to people, maybe we even hook up, and I want nothing to do with them within a week. Like, we gotta get this libido up, help, I think you're avoiding attachment.

• 41:49Speaker 03

  I think you need a therapist.

• 41:50Speaker 01

  Also, let me play, apparently he's amazing for libido.

• 41:54Speaker 03

  Let me play, okay, yeah, I mean, I, I definitely think we need to be, like, working from the ground up, like, there's something going on there.

• 41:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, therapist.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 42:01Speaker 01

  I get it, though, having a crush makes the world-

• 42:04Speaker 03

  So much brighter.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Open up.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  I know.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  My problem is that my friend keeps dressing her toddler in the same outfits that I'm dressing mine.

• 42:11Speaker 03

  I, whoa.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  Wow, Nolan, sometimes you really, like, and the thing is, like, Nolan doesn't know.

• 42:20Speaker 05

  By the way, that was from another batch, and I put it in with this one.

• 42:24Speaker 03

  Nolan, you go off.

• 42:24Speaker 05

  I don't know, I just had a feeling that-

• 42:26Speaker 03

  I would fucking claw a bitch down.

• 42:31Speaker 01

  At first, I thought it was so cute, but now, six months later, it's just getting a bit obsessive. I want to say something to her about it, but I don't want to come across as rude. Help, it's hard because she's a first-time mother, too.

• 42:41Speaker 03

  Help, SOS, get away from this woman, that is fucking crazy, I would lose my mind. My mom had a friend like that who dressed her daughter the exact same way as me, and then I've obviously had to, like, carry this burden my whole life. But I'm not kidding, that goes deeper than the clothes.

• 42:54Speaker 01

  You think?

• 42:54Speaker 03

  Yes, no, I know.

• 42:56Speaker 01

  Is it like, single, white female?

• 42:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's like, literally, like, no identity, no sense of self, like, following you, and then, could you imagine if I came to work every day and I was wearing what you were wearing?

• 43:06Speaker 01

  No.

• 43:06Speaker 03

  That's insane.

• 43:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:07Speaker 03

  If a crazy person does that, you need to run for the hills. And like, no, there's nothing.

• 43:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  No, bye, we're done, we're done.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 43:16Speaker 03

  That is crazy behavior.

• 43:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:18Speaker 03

  It's like, one thing to be like, oh, we got the same sweater, or once in a while, you, like, come across the same things, because you're shopping in the same places. To literally have your daughter dress like her daughter every time, bye.

• 43:27Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 43:28Speaker 03

  Bye-bye.

• 43:28Speaker 01

  Bye.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  Ta-ta.

• 43:30Speaker 01

  I accidentally sent a nude to the wrong person.

• 43:32Speaker 03

  Oh, awful.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  Of course it was meant to go to my boyfriend, but I sent it and waited for a response. After like three minutes, I wondered why he hadn't said anything and saw I sent it to a female coworker. Oh, at least it was another girl.

• 43:45Speaker 03

  Still, how do you fuck that up?

• 43:47Speaker 01

  It's nice it's not a guy, yeah, but me and her aren't exactly close either. I have no idea. She saw it. She saw it.

• 43:53Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 43:53Speaker 01

  She prob did, like, who doesn't read their texts? And we haven't spoken about it at work. Please, what the fuck, help. You have to just go up to her and be like, I know you saw my nude.

• 43:59Speaker 03

  Well, first of all, also, if you, can't you, like, you text somebody and nude, you have it, like, in your literal text messages, text them back and be like, I am so sorry, this wasn't for you. It's weird she left it.

• 44:07Speaker 01

  Have solace in the fact that she can't send that anywhere, or else it's revenge porn, and that's illegal.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  That is illegal, right?

• 44:12Speaker 01

  So have, yes, it's, I think it's a new law that was passed, actually, and have solace in the fact that that is illegal.

• 44:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I think she needs to just, like, text her and be like, I am so sorry, because the girl's probably weirded out.

• 44:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Especially when you don't say anything, because you're like, was that meant for me? Are people fucking okay? What the fuck are we talking about? If I sent my tits to somebody that I was working on my podcast that I wasn't friends with, I'd be like, they're great, but they're not for you. I'm sorry.

• 44:34Speaker 01

  Right.

• 44:35Speaker 03

  Come on.

• 44:35Speaker 01

  Come on.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  Hello?

• 44:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, say something.

• 44:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, Jesus Christ.

• 44:40Speaker 01

  If my boyfriend and I make a mess on my comforter, if you know what I mean, should he offer to have it cleaned?

• 44:45Speaker 03

  Helen, what are these questions? Okay.

• 44:48Speaker 01

  My comforter doesn't fit in my washing machine and it costs like $35 to have it dry cleaned, and I just cleaned it two weeks ago. I hinted how annoyed I was that I have to get it cleaned again, but he didn't offer anything except for detailed solutions for me to get it fixed. No, no, no, no, no, no, no. If he's sticking it in you.

• 45:02Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  He's cleaning up the mess.

• 45:03Speaker 03

  Correct.

• 45:04Speaker 01

  That is like my, I had a gay friend that was like, if, if a mess happens and he's sticking it in you, that is, and he is weirded out by that, that is a him problem. You should be so weirded out by him.

• 45:14Speaker 03

  Agreed, 100%. You should not be paying for that at all.

• 45:17Speaker 01

  Recently, my best friend has not talked about anything other than boys, me, and it's nonstop. Every fucking convo. It was fun for a sec, but now she doesn't even ask me how I am or anything. She just texts me when she needs advice about a guy.

• 45:28Speaker 03

  No, one-way friendship doesn't work, she's not invested in you, like, unless this is a long-term friendship and you care about fixing it, like, you have a direct conversation with them and be like, "I don't feel like you're giving a shit about me," but other than that, like, these things, once you're at this point, move on.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, cut him off.

• 45:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 45:43Speaker 01

  I guess, right, damn.

• 45:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, it just, I feel like when, people know the answers to a lot of these questions, they just want validation.

• 45:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, Morgan's here to validate you.

• 45:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, we're done with that friendship.

• 45:54Speaker 01

  I just started seeing this man, and the other night, he's outside my apartment, blasting music at 3 a.m., pissed drunk, ugh, romantic.

• 46:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  He was asking if he could come in and hang, and I just slammed the door, also romantic. The next day, he texted me, "You free tonight?" Obsessed.

• 46:07Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  I asked him if he remembers last night, and he had no idea what I was talking about, so I said, "Oh, he has a drinking problem."

• 46:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 01

  Yeah. So that's an issue.

• 46:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, that is an issue. I wouldn't deal with that for too long.

• 46:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, maybe just no.

• 46:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:19Speaker 01

  The last one.

• 46:20Speaker 03

  Oh, okay, wow.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  I mean, you're quick with it.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I get it.

• 46:24Speaker 01

  My boyfriend of five years, who was also my best friend for 12 years, recently broke up with me out of the blue. He emphasized that he didn't want to lose me from his life permanently because we have been friends since we were 13. However, I found out that a month after he broke my heart, he was already living with a new random girl!

• 46:39Speaker 03

  He was fucking her before.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Yeah. The only reason I found out was because of, was because his new girlfriend caught him texting me. This prompted me to leave a couple of notes on his truck for he and his girlfriend to find. "I was just congratulating him on losing his job, cunt." Love that. "And that I hope his job hunting is going well for a loser like him. He tried and failed to get a restraining order against me for it." That's a crazy thing to get a restraining order for.

• 47:01Speaker 03

  Wait, this is, no, no, there's missing pieces of this story.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  You think?

• 47:04Speaker 03

  She's a little cookie cookie, and you lost me at the truck. I don't know what's happening.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Okay. "I'm tired of still being so angry and heartbroken over a man that couldn't care less about me. Please prescribe me remedies. You should watch 'Someone Great' and 'How to Be Single.'"

• 47:14Speaker 03

  I co-sign that one.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  Those are just, you watch them, they teach you how to be alone.

• 47:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that's important.

• 47:20Speaker 01

  Also, like, there's so, yeah.

• 47:21Speaker 03

  Exercise, go for walks, focus on your friendships, I definitely think there's...

• 47:25Speaker 01

  Read "Strangers," bye. What's her name, Louise?

• 47:27Speaker 03

  Bell Burden.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Every time I forget.

• 47:29Speaker 03

  Bell Burden. It was so good.

• 47:31Speaker 01

  I need to read it.

• 47:31Speaker 04

  It's required reading.

• 47:32Speaker 03

  I read it on the plane in literally four hours.

• 47:35Speaker 01

  Did you turn to your husband and say, "Never fucking do this to me"?

• 47:38Speaker 03

  He wasn't with me, thank God, but like, it's what's so scary about that, not to make this so dark, but like, that can just happen.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  I know.

• 47:44Speaker 04

  To anyone.

• 47:45Speaker 03

  To anyone at any time, regardless of any sort of situation. And I think it's, yeah, it's very scary. That's why I always tell everybody, like, especially women, you need to have a sense of self, your own income, your own job, and your own purpose.

• 47:57Speaker 01

  Uh huh. Do you watch Housewives?

• 47:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Are you watching Rhode Island?

• 48:00Speaker 03

  No. Do I need to?

• 48:01Speaker 01

  You gotta watch Rhode Island.

• 48:02Speaker 03

  Okay. I'm so inconsistent with the Housewives.

• 48:04Speaker 01

  You gotta watch Housewives. You gotta watch Rhode Island.

• 48:06Speaker 03

  Okay, I will.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  So, Morgan, what did we learn today?

• 48:10Speaker 03

  What did we learn? We learned...

• 48:13Speaker 01

  Clothing doesn't fill emotional holes.

• 48:15Speaker 03

  Very well said.

• 48:16Speaker 01

  Despite that we would like it to.

• 48:17Speaker 03

  Yes, it doesn't. And then also, to be creative.

• 48:20Speaker 01

  To be creative.

• 48:21Speaker 03

  What did we learn?

• 48:23Speaker 01

  We learned that your color of the summer is navy.

• 48:26Speaker 03

  Yes, important.

• 48:27Speaker 01

  Flared shorts are in.

• 48:29Speaker 03

  Yes, and we learned that we can drink water.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  Drink water on a podcast. Where's that? Yeah.

• 48:34Speaker 03

  There you go.

• 48:35Speaker 01

  Well, Morgan, I adore you.

• 48:36Speaker 03

  I adore you.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  And you're gonna watch Candle.

• 48:38Speaker 03

  That is, I'm literally leaving now.

• 48:39Speaker 01

  You're gonna watch Candle.

• 48:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, to go do that.

• 48:41Speaker 01

  I love you, and I'll see you at the show tonight.

• 48:42Speaker 03

  Yes, I love you. So fun.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Love you.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  Bye, pussies.

• 49:02Speaker 00

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