Session 135: Katseye

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• 0:02Speaker 00

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• 0:42Speaker 01

  Hi, guys. Welcome back to Therapist. I am recording this on my new Osmo that I got. You guys, I got a new Osmo. They are really worth the hype. Let me tell you, it makes filming live so much more fun. It's so easy. It's just, I highly recommend. All that goes to say is I'm recording this intro from New York. I just got back from Spain with Peyton, Julia, Cass, and Sally. I was in Paris for a bit.

• 1:15Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, no, I'm not even telling you my year of summer. You guys, so I just got back. I don't know why I got back. It doesn't even matter to this intro at all. It's actually not what I'm trying to say. Hold on, let me collect myself for a second. I think I just really need to talk to the camera for like five fucking seconds. I'm back in New York and seeing Omer tonight with Max Winter. I'm so fucking excited. I'm so fucking excited.

• 1:41Speaker 01

  The weather's a little strange right now. There's always that weird pocket of the season, like late January, early February. Oh, that pocket is right now in summer. I'm alone for more periods of time. So I'm just kind of like learning how to be alone and not spiral. Like be productive instead of spin out. You know what I mean? And I know that sounds like so easy, but it's really not. Like, it is so easy to pick a vibe. Tonight on Therapist, we have Cat's Eye. I am fucking obsessed with Cat's Eye. I'm obsessed with Cat's Eye. I saw them live at Coachella with Charlie, Will, and Cassidy. And I just really am a huge Cat's Eye fan. So this was really exciting for me. Like, you guys don't understand.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Like, when they perform my way on tour, like, I watch. And I watch the whole thing through every time. And being able to see the connections that they have with each other in person was really special. So if you guys don't know much about Cat's Eye, I'm so excited for you to learn more about them. Okay, well, enjoy the episode, and I'll be pussies.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Your new single, "Animal," amazing. Yeah, thank you. I just listened to it. I felt like they sent it to me on a Dropbox link, and I was like, really?

• 3:02Speaker 01

  I was like, okay.

• 3:06Speaker 01

  What was it like working with Ed Sheeran?

• 3:07Speaker 02

  He's so sweet.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  He's the sweetest.

• 3:09Speaker 02

  And he was like, I have the song for you guys. We were like, we didn't know. Like, no way. And then so he tells us, like, we've been working on this song with you guys. And when we heard the song, we were like, oh, we hear him. That's him in the...

• 3:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's very Ed.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's very Ed Sheeran.

• 3:26Speaker 02

  It's so Ed Sheeran, and it's so fun.

• 3:27Speaker 03

  But we got to work with Blake and Omer.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  Got it, yes.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  Who did that, and they also did Touch for us. We love them. They're great.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  What was the biggest difference that you guys noticed from the Sis era to the Gnarly era?

• 3:45Speaker 02

  It was like the biggest switch I ever...

• 3:47Speaker 01

  Because I was about to say, I feel like Sis, I mean, you guys were huge, but then Gnarly, I remember seeing an interview of you guys talking about being like, we were scared for Gnarly to come out. And then everyone, it just, I feel like you guys exploded from it.

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, I think like Gnarly, we really took a risk. I feel like, I feel like Gnarly and that whole EP, Beautiful Chaos, was just like more us. It was like a lot more like, we could be ourselves on stage more. I feel like EP1 was like a little bit more safe, especially since... Yeah, it's like, we're kind of testing the water a little bit, but Gnarly was like a lot more raw and like a lot more in-your-face. But yeah, we were definitely scared when we got...

• 4:31Speaker 03

  I also feel like in Sis era, there was like, at least like from when Cat's Eye was announced, and then to that era, there was like an idea of what Cat's Eye was supposed to be and like what we were supposed to give, the vision, the music. Like, I think there was like a set somewhat sort of plan. And then I think that we kind of like broke those rules, if that makes sense.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Through our live streams, through like our individual expressions, say like on our Instagram, or like even in performances. Like, I think like our authentic identity as individuals, but then also as a group, started like breaking through. And so I think everyone kind of noticed, like, this is actually probably not like the perfect vibe for them. Like, they need something a little bit more messy and a little bit more crazy.

• 5:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think at times, we were like trying to give Gnarly during Touch. We just wasn't giving. Like, performance-wise, like, we would be like making like gnarly faces, and they're like, this is not the vibe. We're like...

• 5:43Speaker 01

  Do you guys each have a favorite song to perform?

• 5:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Well, I love performing M.I.A. so much. I feel like that song specifically, we have the most freedom. We had like staging, but like the most freedom to really show our personality and like almost freestyle on stage. But I feel like all of our other songs that sound like they need choreography, they have choreography.

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 6:11Speaker 02

  And it was the first time we get to really just have that kind of energy, but also show our artistry and move in our own bodies. And so like, we craved a lot of that a lot more. And I feel like "Animal" is also giving that. You know, like when we first saw the choreo, we were like, there's so much more room for us to show artistry and like freestyle more.

• 6:28Speaker 01

  I'm so excited to see the choreo.

• 6:29Speaker 02

  The choreo is really exciting. Like, we're like, there is choreography and all that, but it's a lot more open and a lot more space for our own artistry and us to freestyle a lot more and just live and just sing the song in comparison to Gnarly or Pinky Up. We're literally moving. We're dancing. We're dancing.

• 6:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 6:48Speaker 02

  So I feel like "Animal" is gonna be really fun to perform.

• 6:52Speaker 01

  Right. Do you have a favorite song?

• 6:55Speaker 04

  I actually love performing "Game Boy" on the stage.

• 6:58Speaker 03

  Me too. That's so fun.

• 6:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, especially on like festival, when we have all the winds and everything. Like, when we do "Game Boy", I know Laura doesn't really like "Game Boy."

• 7:10Speaker 01

  You don't like "Game Boy"?

• 7:12Speaker 03

  No, I love the song so much. I just, I don't like the choreography today.

• 7:19Speaker 04

  You get Stitch every time.

• 7:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, I get Stitch.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  You look like a little cramp, the runner's cramp?

• 7:26Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, you get it during "Game Boy"?

• 7:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, I get it during "Game Boy" every time because there's like so much like hopping and jumping.

• 7:33Speaker 02

  It's cardio.

• 7:33Speaker 03

  It's cardio. So it's just like, it's not quite my tea, but I love the song.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  Right.

• 7:39Speaker 03

  Like, it's like a really good song.

• 7:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  But I know what you mean with the festival wind.

• 7:43Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 7:43Speaker 01

  Because when I saw you guys at Coachella, my favorite part about like seeing a performance at a festival is that, especially in the desert, is like the desert wind blowing in the artist's hair as they're like performing. It feels like so ethereal.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  Like so pop star.

• 7:59Speaker 01

  So pop star.

• 8:01Speaker 02

  It was not giving a... It doesn't feel as glamorous as it looks.

• 8:05Speaker 04

  I was just freaking out at Coachella because my hair was in my face. And I was like, oh, my God, I just look so fucking ugly right now. Like, I just can't. I was choking on my hair. Like, my hair was in my mouth, and I was like, I just don't, I'm not giving right now.

• 8:18Speaker 02

  And the sand in your mouth.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  How was Weekend 2?

• 8:22Speaker 02

  It was actually better. There was less wind.

• 8:23Speaker 04

  Actually, Weekend 1 was worse.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, there was less wind.

• 8:26Speaker 04

  Like, you know how we have our water bottles? And like, there's a straw, the sand gets caught inside. So when I would drink it...

• 8:31Speaker 02

  It gets a little sandy.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  And then when you're onstage, you're talking, like, you're kind of like... You're like, it's like...

• 8:39Speaker 01

  It's like when you have a picnic on the beach and it gets in the sandwich.

• 8:43Speaker 02

  That was the entire Coachella set.

• 8:45Speaker 03

  We were wearing contacts.

• 8:48Speaker 02

  I took my contacts right before, so I was, I can't do this. Like, I can't.

• 8:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  Do you have a favorite song?

• 8:55Speaker 02

  I like being really hot and sexy. So I really love M.I.A. as well. Because I feel like it's like, it gives us more freedom to like do whatever the fuck we want. Like, I could literally just be crawling on the floor. And yeah, I feel like M.I.A., especially with like the live band, it makes me feel like, I feel like Britney Spears. Like, I feel like I really embody like a pop star during that song. And being able to like bounce around on stage and like do whatever I want. It's like so fun. Like, I think I like a little bit more like no structure when it comes to like performances. But I think M.I.A., also Gnarly is pretty fun too. But recently, recently, I've been having so much anxiety with that fucking song.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Why?

• 9:35Speaker 02

  Because, okay, especially after that dance break was added, it's usually like, Gnarly is usually at the end of our set. And I'm like winded. I'm so winded. And I have to like fucking slide through these, Laura's legs. And I like don't really get a break in that like dance break at all. Yeah, you don't. I'm like, like panting.

• 9:55Speaker 01

  I mean, that dance break, I will never forget. I opened up TikTok. I think it was the, I think you debuted it at your Beautiful Chaos tour, right?

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  And I remember opening up TikTok, and I was just like, what the fuck?

• 10:14Speaker 02

  It's like so in your face. Like, you get allowed to blink.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  You can't blink, or you'll miss something. It's really incredible. Like, you guys should be so proud of yourselves. It's not an easy thing to pull, like, obviously, it's not an easy thing to pull off. But like, then to continue to do a show after that? I mean, I can barely get up my flight of stairs. Truthfully.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  But you know what's so funny? Like, I feel like we can do like whole sets, but then when...

• 10:39Speaker 04

  When I come to like running or like walking, like I can't run. I'm out of breath.

• 10:43Speaker 03

  Even yeah, up the stairs.

• 10:44Speaker 04

  Up the stairs, I still, I still pant.

• 10:47Speaker 03

  But then we can somehow get through the show.

• 10:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, I like always think about that, like.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  It's the crowd, it's probably the crowd.

• 10:52Speaker 04

  Maybe?

• 10:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's probably the crowd and the adrenaline and the screaming.

• 10:56Speaker 03

  In rehearsal, like we get through rehearsal, but then when I'm on a treadmill, I'm like dying.

• 11:02Speaker 01

  Treadmills, I'm always dying. Treadmills, I'm always dying. I can't, I can't treadmill. Because you're like, I'm running to nowhere.

• 11:08Speaker 02

  There's no motivation.

• 11:10Speaker 04

  Where are we going?

• 11:11Speaker 01

  I have no motivation.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  No motivation.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  I have no motivation. That makes sense. So your body's like, I'm out.

• 11:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  I also get like self-conscious, like pulling out my phone on a treadmill. Like I feel like, people are like, what the fuck are you doing?

• 11:23Speaker 03

  Like she's not.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  She like fell off the treadmill, like that's my fear.

• 11:29Speaker 01

  Oh my god. That was a deep cut.

• 11:31Speaker 03

  Oh my god. I, I used to feel so ugly and anxious at the gym. Because it's like, I'm not like a gym bro.

• 11:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  So it's like, I like, I always feel like I'm being watched.

• 11:41Speaker 02

  I feel like I'm doing it. I can't, I can't, I need a trainer.

• 11:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  I'm the same way.

• 11:47Speaker 02

  I will, I will just sit there and walk around and touch the wipe and then that's it.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  And I'm the same.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  Do you have a good trainer?

• 11:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, his name's Louis. He's amazing. You guys would love him. He's really amazing. He's British.

• 12:00Speaker 03

  Wait, who's British?

• 12:01Speaker 01

  He's amazing. You guys would love him. Yeah, he's British.

• 12:04Speaker 03

  Can you send him over?

• 12:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:07Speaker 02

  We can all take a look at class together.

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, yes, he's at the.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  Together.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Uh, if I worked out with you guys, that would be the best day of my entire life.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  We actually, we have a cat's eye ab workout.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  No, you don't.

• 12:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, we should. We should teach you.

• 12:21Speaker 04

  But you have to be singing Ariana at the same time.

• 12:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  We'll sing Ariana. Have you heard?

• 12:26Speaker 03

  I've heard.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  I'm like literally gripping the pillowcase.

• 12:28Speaker 03

  It was beautiful.

• 12:29Speaker 01

  You haven't heard, have you heard?

• 12:30Speaker 02

  No.

• 12:31Speaker 03

  Have you heard?

• 12:31Speaker 04

  Actually, I haven't heard it yet. I've only heard.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Oh, it's unbelievable.

• 12:34Speaker 04

  Don't talk to me.

• 12:35Speaker 01

  She does like a little pre-chorus hook and it's like so infectious.

• 12:39Speaker 03

  Yes, it's beautiful. Also, her voice sounds so different, but in like the best way ever.

• 12:45Speaker 04

  Wait, what?

• 12:45Speaker 01

  How do you think it sounds different?

• 12:46Speaker 03

  I, I think it just sounds a bit more like deep and mature.

• 12:50Speaker 02

  I think it's also because she's getting off of like her placement in Glinda, which is so high and operatic, that she's tapping back into the warmth and the grittiness.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, like, yeah, her voice sounds so warm.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  She's just, she has a range that goes beyond like our atmosphere.

• 13:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 13:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, like she, she taught me how to sing.

• 13:09Speaker 02

  She taught us how to sing.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:10Speaker 02

  Literally.

• 13:11Speaker 03

  She's the best. I gagged.

• 13:13Speaker 01

  Always gagged.

• 13:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 13:15Speaker 01

  Do you have a favorite song to perform?

• 13:16Speaker 03

  Oh, M.I.A. I guess. For sure. Because like, like she said, like I, I like, um, cause I'm not like a dancer first. I love dancing and I love performing, but like, I love movement more, I think, than like choreo. Like I, I like being free. It's where I feel the most like myself. It's also like, with any other song, like there's no business to be like crawling and whipping your head and shaking out some floor. But like in M.I.A., M.I.A. like you can, like it sounds like that and it's like fitting. So it's definitely my favorite. It's kind, it's kind.

• 13:55Speaker 01

  It is kind.

• 13:56Speaker 03

  It's just kind.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  Dani, what about you?

• 13:58Speaker 05

  Yeah, M.I.A., but I will also shout out gnarly dance break just because I get a little moment where I do a handstand on someone's shoulders and they flip me over. And even though I'm like so gassed, it's just like so like cunty when I look back at the videos and I'm like, yes, you hate that. And I'm just like, I don't know. I.

• 14:21Speaker 01

  With the little hip.

• 14:22Speaker 05

  Exactly. Like that's what I've been, I've, I'm like first was a ballroom dancer. So that's like, kind of like what I'm really good at, just like Latin ballroom dancing. So whenever I get to do like hip movement and stuff, I'm always like, yes, cause that's what I grew up doing and I love doing. So that's my favorite part.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, I love that you guys all like are able to bring your like real love for like your ballroom dancing. Like you're saying, like everyone's like able to bring it into the group. I think that's what makes the group so special.

• 14:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, we each have like our own little special thing that we.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  I think that's why my favorites.

• 15:01Speaker 05

  Yeah, what's yours?

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Is my way.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  What? I was, I was gonna say that too. I love performing my way.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  It's emotional. I think it's like, and especially when you guys all do your riffs. I've seen the riffs and like I just die for it. Every time, every time I see a video of you guys performing my way, I always watch it.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  Wait, can, can I say something about my way?

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:24Speaker 03

  I feel like Coachella was, I mean tour as well, but especially Coachella was like a place where we finally got to like, and like have my way performed in the way that we envisioned it and like dreamed of it being. And that was like, it was so fulfilling. It was so fulfilling.

• 15:43Speaker 04

  Like even being able to like do harmonies on each other's like parts too, and like being able to like reconstruct the melody and like be able to like look at each other, like before we would do them with like literal, like what is it? The headset mics and that didn't feel right.

• 16:00Speaker 02

  We were learning this before we even debuted, right? And I have footage of us stripping it down to a beautiful piano arrangement and giving each other harmonies. Because that's just always, that was always our vision for that song.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  I also, I also feel that way with Mean Girls. That one is slept on.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  That song, when I heard that song, okay, when I first heard that song, you guys were sitting on cars in a parking lot or something. You were performing.

• 16:26Speaker 03

  Miami or something.

• 16:27Speaker 04

  Was that?

• 16:27Speaker 03

  Oh, no, no, no. It was that.

• 16:29Speaker 04

  The tailgates, right?

• 16:30Speaker 01

  Like this urban. You were like tailgating somewhere and you were like sitting and, and you were doing, and you were dancing to Mean Girls and I was like, what is this beat? And it was like, I die for that song.

• 16:45Speaker 01

  And I love when you get on tour with the, the little, the, yeah, God bless.

• 16:50Speaker 04

  I actually, I hate that. I hate that. Like, I hate that. It actually used to be something different, which was like even harder.

• 16:57Speaker 02

  There was like a harder version.

• 16:58Speaker 03

  It was like L. Oh, yeah. Yes. It was like, God bless the sweet girls.

• 17:04Speaker 02

  You can still do it?

• 17:05Speaker 04

  I hated it.

• 17:06Speaker 02

  I like forgot how to do it.

• 17:07Speaker 03

  What is that?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  And like, bitch, they try to make me spell love. I'm just like, sick as fuck.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  We were like, you guys. Because they kept being like, this is like for the queers. Like, let's like do this for the queers.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  Like as a queer.

• 17:21Speaker 03

  As a queer.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  I don't know if we would appreciate it.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  I don't think we could do that.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  He was giving like cheese bank with the rainbow.

• 17:30Speaker 03

  We're spelling out like love is love.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:36Speaker 03

  It's like, come on.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:37Speaker 03

  It's okay.

• 17:38Speaker 02

  And we put it on TikTok, like hard version and easy version. Nobody, no one did the hard version. We were like trying to make it a trend. Everyone just did the easy version.

• 17:46Speaker 04

  We were trying to make it a trend and no one did it.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Nobody did it.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  With the L V E?

• 17:50Speaker 02

  Well, with either of them.

• 17:51Speaker 03

  I don't think anyone picked up on the thing like this is for like gay, gay love.

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Like, I don't think anyone.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  Wait, yes, they did.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Oh, really?

• 17:59Speaker 01

  Yes, they did.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  Well, I did.

• 18:00Speaker 01

  They absolutely did. They absolutely did.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  Tell me more.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  Justin Trantor, who wrote the track, came out and said.

• 18:08Speaker 03

  Well, yes, about the line.

• 18:09Speaker 01

  He pitched the song to a lot of people and nobody would do it if the T-girl song, if the T-girl line was in it, but you guys did.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  No, because we, we love the trans community and also we love our gays. Like we also like our like whole career, our, I think, style, our music genre, also who we work with is like inspired and built by the queer community and the trans community as well. So like, it felt like a beautiful moment to like shout that out in a song and like really like show our love in a more impactful way rather than just like saying it.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  You know?

• 18:49Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. And that song, I, at least for me, has so much depth, cause like I listen to it when I'm feeling like really insecure. Cause like, you know what I mean? Cause it's like.

• 18:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, of course.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  Oh my god, like that song like does, is everything. That's my, I think that's my favorite song of your guys's.

• 19:02Speaker 03

  Really?

• 19:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I just, I think it's really like messy in a really like beautiful way where you're like.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  Beautifully chaotic.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  God bless everyone, like even the Mean Girls, because even the Mean Girls are so insecure.

• 19:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  And like you forgive them because insecurity sucks and you get it. And it's just like, everyone makes mistakes, everyone fucks up. And I just think it's like a really, I don't know, I think a lot of your music is really like, it's really like indicative of like your cohesiveness as like a group. Like I think like that's why I like my way so much, cause like you are doing your, this your way. You know what I mean? Like you're, you're made by, kept, you're, you're, the group is made by K-pop methodologies, but you've done it your way. And I think that's like why I like love songs like that, that you guys perform.

• 19:52Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 19:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's her story.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, okay. I can't, I've never asked this many people this at the same time, but what are you guys there pissed about today?

• 20:01Speaker 02

  Oh my god. I'm, I have so many things.

• 20:05Speaker 03

  I have so many.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  I have so many things.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  Yes, just today or whatever.

• 20:09Speaker 03

  Pissed about?

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, like what are you angry about?

• 20:11Speaker 04

  What's making you mad right now? Like what's annoying you right now?

• 20:14Speaker 03

  Okay, go.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  I have stu- stupid silly things.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  That's the point.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  I am there pissed about drivers in LA. People don't know how to fucking drive. It pisses me off.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  True.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Like this morning, like I almost got in a car accident because some stupid guy like merged into my lane. I was, as I was merging into the same lane and thank god I saw the car. Cause if not, I would have gotten into a car accident and I wouldn't have gotten here on time. Or I didn't get here on time either way, but.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  Obsessed with the fact that the car accident would have taken you out, but it just would have kept you from getting here on time.

• 20:46Speaker 02

  Like she's not like, I could have died. She's like, oh my god, I could have been late.

• 20:48Speaker 05

  Yeah, I could have been late. And also like

• 20:53Speaker 05

  my back, my back is in so much pain. I'm in so much pain.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 20:56Speaker 05

  I'm in so much pain. Why?

• 20:58Speaker 01

  Because I don't know. I got a really bad knot in my back and like, it's like.

• 21:03Speaker 03

  It's from all that working out.

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Creaking, yeah.

• 21:05Speaker 03

  It's from all that pain.

• 21:08Speaker 02

  Cause Louis needs to.

• 21:11Speaker 02

  What are you doing?

• 21:12Speaker 04

  Twenty now, like we got some issues.

• 21:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, we're aging.

• 21:16Speaker 01

  How is it that you're older, all of you guys?

• 21:18Speaker 02

  We're young.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  I'm twenty.

• 21:19Speaker 01

  You're twenty.

• 21:20Speaker 05

  Twenty-one.

• 21:21Speaker 03

  I'm twenty.

• 21:22Speaker 04

  Oh, eighteen.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Eighteen. Oh my god.

• 21:24Speaker 02

  Twenty-three.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  Sixteen.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  No, she's, she's our oldest, eldest.

• 21:28Speaker 01

  Things will start creaking soon.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  Oh gosh, no, they're already creaking. They've been, they're already creaking.

• 21:33Speaker 03

  How old are you?

• 21:33Speaker 01

  Twenty-six.

• 21:35Speaker 02

  You're young.

• 21:36Speaker 04

  Wait, I thought we were the same.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  I'm a baby.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  You're such a. Baby.

• 21:40Speaker 02

  No, you're young.

• 21:42Speaker 03

  You're young.

• 21:42Speaker 02

  We're the same age.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  I, I feel younger than I am sometimes, but then sometimes I feel like forty.

• 21:48Speaker 03

  You're almost pushing thirty.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  I know.

• 21:50Speaker 02

  No, you're, no.

• 21:51Speaker 03

  How do you feel about that? But why is that a bad thing?

• 21:55Speaker 02

  Because people take it, people take it.

• 21:58Speaker 03

  Thirty is beautiful.

• 21:59Speaker 02

  I fucking love.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  And I've never seen sex in the city because it's just like.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  Oh my god, what?

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Because I grew up in New York and I just find it so unrealistic. That I was like, I can't get behind this.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  Okay, I understand.

• 22:09Speaker 01

  Do you know what I mean?

• 22:10Speaker 03

  Sex in the city is not.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  It's not.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Like, New York is a lot more grimy.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  It's a lot more grimy. She's like, oh my god, my credit card maxed out. I'm like, so you can't pay rent?

• 22:22Speaker 03

  Right. Yeah, she's like, I can't get dinner.

• 22:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was like, what's going on? But she's thirty and she's thriving.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Thirty and flirty.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  No, thirty and flirty.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  But when you say the term like pushing thirty, it sounds like.

• 22:34Speaker 03

  But it's like you're pushing thirty, like you're almost there. And, and I've, what I've heard.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  I mean, people take that like so offensively.

• 22:42Speaker 03

  I'm a child, but what I've heard is that thirty is like, like in your thirties are like the best years of your life.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  That's what I've heard too, because it's after your Saturn return.

• 22:50Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  Wait, a what?

• 22:52Speaker 03

  More into Saturn.

• 22:54Speaker 02

  Your Saturn?

• 22:55Speaker 01

  Okay, so you're, do you know, do you know about like your Saturn return and stuff?

• 22:57Speaker 02

  No, I don't know what that is.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  When you're twenty seven.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  What's like a sad and return? Do you know what this is?

• 23:02Speaker 03

  Saturn return.

• 23:03Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 23:05Speaker 01

  Yes, it's what Ariana talks about, but I'm like approaching it and I know I'm approaching it because my body is telling me I'm approaching it.

• 23:11Speaker 02

  Please let me know what happens. I'm like so invested in this.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  You'll see what happens.

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Call me when you're thirty one.

• 23:17Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  Literally crash out on live. What are you therapist about today?

• 23:21Speaker 03

  Oh my god, okay, I'm therapist about many deep things, but I'm, what I'm therapist, like what I'm therapist about? Um, I drove past my ex on the street last night.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 23:32Speaker 03

  Okay, because.

• 23:33Speaker 02

  She blew up her chat.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  No, because, because it's so annoying. I see my ex all the fucking time. It's really annoying. We see each other all the time. And it's honestly all love, like no bad vibes, but we just keep seeing each other.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Wait, did you make eye contact on the street?

• 23:48Speaker 03

  Well, I saw him, but I don't think he saw me.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  Were you at like a red light?

• 23:52Speaker 03

  No, we were at a red light, like randomly.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Was he walking?

• 23:58Speaker 03

  He was driving. Our cars were next to each other and I saw his window was down. He was like listening.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  He was like riding in his car. And so I was like, oh my god.

• 24:11Speaker 02

  This.

• 24:12Speaker 03

  And I looked and I was like.

• 24:15Speaker 04

  Okay, well, I actually have two things I'm therapist about. One is at the AMAs, I had a fever and I had to get an IV that's still like, looks like I like.

• 24:26Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 24:27Speaker 04

  Anyway, yeah, I had to like get this fucking IV.

• 24:30Speaker 01

  I get two IVs a week, every single week.

• 24:33Speaker 02

  Oh wow.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  From my same girl Beverly. She's amazing. And when I don't go to Beverly, my IV gets fucked up.

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Right.

• 24:40Speaker 01

  It's all about, like, it's, it's about the, it's about the nurse and if they can find a vein to make you comfortable, it's like literal therapy.

• 24:48Speaker 03

  How do you feel about the IV though? Because sometimes that makes me really tired.

• 24:51Speaker 04

  It gives me acne low key.

• 24:53Speaker 03

  Really?

• 24:53Speaker 04

  I'm breaking out. Every time that I get an IV, I break out. I don't know what, maybe I'm just not used to vitamins. Maybe it's I'm not used to vitamins. I never take vitamins.

• 25:01Speaker 03

  Or maybe you have something you're allergic to.

• 25:02Speaker 04

  That's why you're getting sick.

• 25:03Speaker 01

  It might be something you're allergic to.

• 25:04Speaker 04

  I'm allergic to a lot of things.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  What are you allergic to?

• 25:06Speaker 04

  Everything. I'm allergic to cats, shellfish, cinnamon, grass, cats.

• 25:13Speaker 03

  The cinnamon is, is one.

• 25:14Speaker 04

  Cinnamon is a big one.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  Cinnamon's a big one.

• 25:16Speaker 01

  I don't like cinnamon.

• 25:17Speaker 04

  Well, good.

• 25:18Speaker 02

  Good.

• 25:19Speaker 01

  I don't like cinnamon.

• 25:20Speaker 04

  Good.

• 25:21Speaker 01

  I know.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  Tell them.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  I know, I don't, I, it's never been my thing. So you're not, for me, you're not missing out.

• 25:26Speaker 04

  I'm safe here.

• 25:27Speaker 01

  And I also don't really fuck with cats.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  Oh, oh. Uh oh, you're just gonna fight you. You're just gonna fight you.

• 25:35Speaker 03

  Wait, let's go boo. One, two, three. Boo.

• 25:40Speaker 04

  Wait, one more thing I'm therapist about. I hate dating. I hate.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  More than life itself.

• 25:44Speaker 04

  I hate dating and I genuinely am just an awkward person in general, so I'm putting myself out there.

• 25:50Speaker 03

  You're not that awkward. I think you need to, you need to give yourself way more credit.

• 25:55Speaker 04

  Really?

• 25:55Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 25:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, she, she always says that she is, but I think you actually are way more like magnetic and really like, like, what's the word? Like, um.

• 26:05Speaker 04

  Charming.

• 26:05Speaker 03

  Charming.

• 26:07Speaker 01

  You're very charming, Megan.

• 26:08Speaker 04

  Thank you, guys. That doesn't come out when I'm dating. I'm like, oh my god, I get so anxious that I'm like, oh my god, this is like too much for me. It's too much for me. Oh, you know what I've been listening to recently?

• 26:19Speaker 01

  What?

• 26:19Speaker 04

  That's like, I feel so connected to the song, The Cure by Olivia Rodrigo.

• 26:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:23Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 26:26Speaker 04

  Like, she ate with that shit and I'm like, I listen to that song like maybe five times a day.

• 26:31Speaker 01

  I was like, oh, I get it.

• 26:32Speaker 04

  I relate to this a lot. I would like listen to it with my window down, like, like hair in my face.

• 26:37Speaker 03

  Like, I'm a rabble.

• 26:40Speaker 04

  Like, I feel this like in my soul.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  Because it's hard to date.

• 26:44Speaker 02

  She's like driving, the red strings are all like.

• 26:46Speaker 04

  The red strings coming from me. It's hard to date. I hate dating.

• 26:49Speaker 01

  It's hard to date also when you're like, I feel like for when I'm like dating, it's like I'm looking for dating to like bring me that security that I don't have.

• 26:58Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 26:59Speaker 01

  And it'll never be the cure.

• 27:04Speaker 01

  It'll never be the cure.

• 27:05Speaker 04

  I guess I have to like work on myself, whatever.

• 27:07Speaker 03

  No, but I also think it's really hard in our situation to like date as if we were our age, if that makes sense? And like play around and like cook up with people and just like figure shit out. Like, our life is, we are our age, but our life feels like we are way older. And so it's like, we need someone that has their shit figured out too and also is like all about us.

• 27:30Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 27:30Speaker 03

  Like, they need to be like, I want you and like, I'm willing to take on all the things that you're going through as well.

• 27:36Speaker 04

  Exactly. I'm not trying to play any games.

• 27:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, it like takes a special person.

• 27:39Speaker 01

  Games are miserable.

• 27:40Speaker 04

  They're so miserable.

• 27:41Speaker 02

  You guys are also like twenty, like everyone else that's like twenty, a lot of people who are your age are like still in college, like just got into college.

• 27:49Speaker 03

  Especially the boys.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  When I was your guys' age and I wasn't dating at all. I started dating when I was twenty two.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Really?

• 27:56Speaker 01

  That was when I went on my first date, when I was twenty two years old.

• 27:59Speaker 03

  Really?

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it was miserable.

• 28:02Speaker 02

  It's miserable.

• 28:04Speaker 02

  Like, it's not fun.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  I think it's especially the boys too. Like, girls are different, but I think boys are like.

• 28:10Speaker 04

  I'm like, figure your shit out. I'm not trying to like fucking tell you.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  It's just, I can't date here. I've tried it so many times. It's very, very hard for me. I don't know what it is about it, but I think I like dating someone that maybe isn't in the industry.

• 28:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:29Speaker 01

  I don't know why, and I know that sounds so gross to say, but like it really like.

• 28:34Speaker 02

  No, but everything, the thing is when you live in LA, a lot of people come here to sell themselves and make it, you know what I mean? And it's, it almost feels transactional when you try to make connections with people, you know? And even if you're not trying to, oh, there's a squirrel outside.

• 28:49Speaker 03

  A girl?

• 28:50Speaker 02

  A squirrel.

• 28:51Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  Who was watching? No, you were saying transactional. You like naturally have this instinct to connect with people through something that's like, I'm trying to sell myself to you also because like you never know who you're speaking to in LA. It's like you're trying to network, but then sometimes that bleeds into when you try to connect with somebody authentically. And it's just like naturally like everybody in LA just happens to be that and it's so hard to find somebody that just wants to be your friend.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  But I, I think it's also like, it's like you can get so jaded by like all these incredible cool things that are happening. And I think in LA, everyone kind of lets you be jaded when you're dating them because it's like, it's like, oh, this is just normal, but.

• 29:32Speaker 03

  Because they are that way.

• 29:33Speaker 02

  No, we need healing.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, but when, if you're in New York, if I'm in New York and I'm going on a date and they're like, oh my god, what you're doing, that's so cool that you're doing that. That's so cool. It's like, I need that. I need someone to like remind myself that like.

• 29:46Speaker 03

  The, the New York bitches are way more real.

• 29:48Speaker 01

  Way more real.

• 29:50Speaker 03

  It is true. I, I do think there, I like, I always felt like my relationships in New York were a lot messier, but they were a lot more real.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  And like, I, I think that they give less fucks.

• 30:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, they do.

• 30:06Speaker 03

  And just like in general, so the, the whole public thing of it all too is, is tough. Because like, it's difficult because also with our situation, the dating and like people knowing who we're dating has always been like really iffy because in K-pop, that's like not. I, I, at least I think like the way we started, it was something that we were like, we're never gonna do that and like never gonna show who we're dating and that's just how it's gonna be. And then I think as time went on, things just got a little bit messy and things would leak and like people would somehow find out who we're dating. Um, which wasn't, I think like by our choice, if that makes sense?

• 30:51Speaker 03

  Because like, I don't know, once people start to put their opinions on a relationship, if you guys are not really locked the fuck in.

• 30:58Speaker 04

  It puts pressure.

• 30:59Speaker 03

  It really puts a lot of pressure.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  Are you guys, do you guys try to stay offline? In that case, but it's hard to stay offline.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  No, but it's really not. You just delete it.

• 31:08Speaker 03

  You do. Because it's on your phone.

• 31:10Speaker 02

  You just deleted it.

• 31:11Speaker 05

  Me and Laura, we deleted TikTok.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  You did?

• 31:13Speaker 05

  Yeah, we deleted TikTok.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  Like a while ago.

• 31:15Speaker 05

  We only like go on Instagram reels, which have nothing to do with Cat's Eye. I feel like, for some reason, TikTok, like the algorithm, like, immediately is Cat's Eye. So I'm like, I've had.

• 31:24Speaker 01

  That's my algorithm.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  I took Danny's phone myself and I.

• 31:28Speaker 05

  She like put like the time.

• 31:30Speaker 02

  Banned every single thing that's possibly related to Cat's Eye.

• 31:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:33Speaker 02

  That's why you don't see it.

• 31:33Speaker 05

  Like all the words, like banned Cat's Eye, Daniela, Megan, Sophia.

• 31:37Speaker 02

  Anything related.

• 31:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 31:38Speaker 02

  I can do, I, I, that's why her, that's why her Instagram is numbness.

• 31:42Speaker 05

  But you know what? It did not work, girl. Like.

• 31:45Speaker 03

  I still see things.

• 31:46Speaker 05

  You still see things.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Because I think.

• 31:47Speaker 03

  But you get numb to it. It's, it's because when you block, when you block the words.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  It's like when I see hate and all that, I'm just like.

• 31:53Speaker 03

  They still will post us without the words.

• 31:55Speaker 02

  You just see it and it's like, it doesn't, it doesn't affect you anymore. Like, I feel like, I remember, I, sorry?

• 32:00Speaker 05

  Like, you're numb to it.

• 32:01Speaker 02

  Yes, exactly. Like, I remember when we were first starting and we were getting all these things. Even, ah, for me personally, I'm the type of person, like, I really don't care. Like, you could even say it to my face, I really don't care. But what was bothering me was the way that it, like, lingers. Because I could see all these good things, but when I see something, it's like, it's like, it's like a bug in your mind.

• 32:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:20Speaker 02

  And that's what was bothering me. I'm just like, I just don't want to, like, be even, like, remembering it or being affected by it. And I remember, I, I, I remember texting, like, Yoonjin from the Seraphim. I was like, how do you guys do this? You know, because they've been through the wringer. And it's, they, she was just like, honestly, like, there's no way around it, other than just, like, you kind of just grow numb to it. And so now, when I see TikToks or comments, like, they're just gonna show up. But I just see them and I'm just like, it's just like nothing to me. I realize that the internet is just a space that people feel so comfortable to just speak.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:50Speaker 02

  And I have no control over that. But I have control over what I decide to do with what I'm seeing. Because I made a choice to look at a platform that peep, that is just gonna expose so many things to me.

• 33:02Speaker 03

  We, we also made a choice to, like, put ourselves in the eye of that.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  Exactly. Like, we chose this life and we just have to find the things that we can control. And we can control training ourselves to see certain things. We can control the visibility, like, ourselves, like, putting ourselves in there. We can't control what's there.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, true.

• 33:21Speaker 02

  Only, only to a certain extent. So it's just.

• 33:23Speaker 03

  It's never gonna change, too.

• 33:25Speaker 02

  It's just building that tolerance. And so now, I'm just plainly numb to it. And I don't, I don't give a fuck.

• 33:30Speaker 03

  I, I also feel, I also feel kind of like, I, I, I mean, it sucks, but I do feel weirdly grateful for it. Because I think it's taught me, like, so much grace for other people in life. Like, it's, it is tough. Like, I, I think a lot of amazing people are sometimes, like, really hated.

• 33:52Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 33:52Speaker 03

  Because, like, they have so much nuance. And they're, like, real people.

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Especially artists.

• 33:58Speaker 03

  Especially artists.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Creative people.

• 34:00Speaker 03

  Creative people are, like, real messy people. And, like, things have, they say things that need context. And, like, the internet is anti that. It's so black and white.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  So black and white.

• 34:11Speaker 03

  They don't know how to see nuance. They don't care. They don't care to look.

• 34:15Speaker 05

  Trek, run with it.

• 34:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, they don't care to look for the nuance. Because it's just like, they're so excited to jump on a train to hate someone. So I think it's like, I, I used to when I was young, because we all kind of grew up in, like, cancel culture.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  Ew.

• 34:29Speaker 03

  So I think I, I think, like, when I was, like, a young teen, I used to also think like that. And when I would see artists or, like, say, like, they, they say something bad, I'd be like, yikes, like, cancelled. But now I'm like, now I'm like, no, like, people deserve grace.

• 34:48Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 34:49Speaker 03

  It obviously depends on the situation and what people have said and done. But it's like, I think in, in a lot of cases, like, people deserve a chance to grow or to explain themselves.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:01Speaker 03

  That makes sense. Like, nuance is just so important. And it's, it's taught me to be a lot kinder to people and make less judgment. The way that I wouldn't want them to judge me off of, like, a, a clip taken out of context.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  Exactly. Also, a lot of these people don't have original thoughts.

• 35:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Like, they, they literally, it has, somebody starts it.

• 35:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  Somebody always starts it based on the tiny, tiny little information that they know. Filtered, literally on your screen, on a little rectangle.

• 35:30Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  And then they'll see that, they'll be like, oh my god, yeah, yeah, this person's right. Let's get really loud. Where, they could literally just be, like, they could literally fill this room, but they could sound like a whole stadium.

• 35:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 02

  And that's why, like, for, that's why, just to bring it back to, like, when, when we perform and all that stuff. When we have something going on and it's just so loud on the internet, I would literally be on my phone and look like, wow, my phone is blowing up with people checking it on me, like, it's so loud. I put my phone down, I'm in a restaurant, and nobody fucking knows who I am in this room.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  Nobody knows who I am. And then I go to someplace like Coachella. And we're in the Sahara tent, right? So there's this whole tent in front of us and we just see this crowd of people. And I'm like, wow, this is a lot of people. And then I see the drone footage when I go online and it's even bigger. People alone that came to Coachella to even just be there, they can't even see us or hear us all the way from the back. But they showed up. All of those people outnumbered the amount of people that are actually making all this noise online.

• 36:21Speaker 03

  Yes, truly.

• 36:22Speaker 02

  It's like, the, people think that the internet is the whole world, but it's not. Stan Twitter could easily be like, Cat's Eye's done. No, we're not.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, we're not.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Period. Clip it.

• 36:32Speaker 03

  Clip it.

• 36:33Speaker 05

  Tip that.

• 36:34Speaker 02

  We're just girls doing our best to empower and to impact the world and fulfill our dream. We just want to sing and dance and make a show. And then you're, and then you're all like, oh my god, Cat's Eye's done. Like, I'm so mad at that face she just made. Like, sorry, close your eyes.

• 36:51Speaker 03

  Cat's Eye, turn your phone off.

• 36:52Speaker 02

  You, you, like, flop side, like, no.

• 36:55Speaker 03

  Yeah, they'll call us flop side.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  They call us flops or, like, like, literally, you don't even know flops. I could literally go to your neighbor and ask them, do you know who I am? They're gonna be like, no.

• 37:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:04Speaker 02

  Exactly. Like, you guys, come on. Like, the internet is not everything. Like, go catch some butterflies.

• 37:09Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  Go, look at so much.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  No, seriously.

• 37:15Speaker 01

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• 38:19Speaker 01

  And also, like, I feel like it's just people, like, dying for community. And like.

• 38:25Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  It's like this loneliness epidemic.

• 38:28Speaker 03

  God bless them.

• 38:29Speaker 01

  God bless the mean girls.

• 38:31Speaker 03

  God bless the mean girls.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  Because they're, they're insecure.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  Everything comes from something.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  It's, it's also taught me to have grace for those people as well.

• 38:38Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 38:39Speaker 03

  It's like, they are clearly looking and searching for a community or, like, some sense of, like, relief from their own pain.

• 38:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:48Speaker 03

  So, also, I, I'm such an advocate of deleting TikTok if you can. I know that some people can. It's your job.

• 38:55Speaker 01

  It's like my job.

• 38:56Speaker 03

  I know, I, I understand. I think we're, we're, we're so privileged in the way that, like, for, for TikTok.

• 39:03Speaker 01

  Comfy.

• 39:04Speaker 03

  But for TikTok, like, we have, like, a team that will run the Cat's Eye TikTok, and then we don't really post our individuals. So we can delete it really less, because, like, it's also made what I create so much better.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 39:18Speaker 03

  Like, i- it's just like my original idea and thought, and it's, like, has zero influence from what I heard. And I'm like, oh my god, my song has to sound like this new trending song. Like, you know what I mean? It's just, I'm not being influenced. Everything's just coming from my brain.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  I was gonna say, I think that's why, like, being numb to it or not even looking at it, you're, you guys didn't get to where you are based on curating who you are on comments.

• 39:46Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  You know what I mean? You got to who, you, you got to where you are by being who you are, like, kind of, without being perceived.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  So why change once you're being perceived? Because then you're, then you're not who you are anymore.

• 39:59Speaker 02

  It's like when we released gnarly, when we've, we say this all the time. That when we first heard it, we were all so excited with what we could do with the song and just really show art and how much we enjoy performing. And we just want to make these facials and we just want to show the power and all our, all the things we've been working towards. Like, that was like what gnarly was to us. Like, we could just be, like, doing something and people are gonna take it a weird, in a weird way. And we knew that. We knew that people were gonna take gnarly in a certain way. But that's the thing about art, like, you, it's yours and you feel a certain way about it, but then you give it to people and it's just like, whatever they do about it.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:31Speaker 02

  And when gnarly came out, that first few hours, like, they were like, everyone was like, take it back, take it back.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  Flop side.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  Flop side, like, this is, like, downfall.

• 40:40Speaker 03

  Whatever it's done, clear, they're done, they're done.

• 40:42Speaker 02

  Cat's Eye's done. You know what? We are done. They hate it. Oh my god, like, we're not gonna perform, but we decided to perform anyway and they all switched up.

• 40:49Speaker 03

  They did.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  They always switch up.

• 40:51Speaker 02

  Like, girl, we got nominated for a Grammy, like, we, the one, three AMAs, like, a VMA, like, and watch, I just say that now and they're gonna be mad at me again.

• 40:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, they are. They are gonna clip this. I can feel it.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  And that's okay. I can see you.

• 41:04Speaker 03

  I can see you.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  And that's what you're gonna do.

• 41:06Speaker 03

  I can see it.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:08Speaker 05

  Yeah, I'm not gonna see it.

• 41:09Speaker 01

  Pocket.

• 41:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:09Speaker 05

  I wanna see it.

• 41:11Speaker 02

  I wanna see it. If I do, then I'll just laugh with you, like.

• 41:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:14Speaker 05

  It's okay.

• 41:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, truly.

• 41:15Speaker 01

  Well, Yoonjae, what are you therapists about today?

• 41:18Speaker 05

  Oh. Oh, I'm not therapist about anything today. Oh, period.

• 41:24Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 41:25Speaker 02

  And that's a luxury.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:28Speaker 05

  Not yet. Oh, the day just started. But last night. Oh. Um, I think I've been like.

• 41:38Speaker 04

  Having weird things about food. Every time I get food that I really.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  Like every time I crave something, I order food and it would be like some things missing, like main food will will missing or like food comes with very not tasteful.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:02Speaker 04

  Like so bad. And that's why I've been like, oh, like I've been. Yeah, I'm like not satisfied.

• 42:11Speaker 04

  Last night, I was like, wait, I should get army stew. Uh, uh, that's like Korean food. And I was like, wait, like, oh, that's like, I can't. That's not gonna like fail. Like.

• 42:26Speaker 04

  Yeah. So I was like, okay, okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna be so satisfied. And I ordered it and the restaurant called me and saying, oh, um, hi, I think you're gonna have to cancel the order because someone stole your food.

• 42:46Speaker 04

  And I was like.

• 42:51Speaker 05

  And I was like, it's just another one. Like.

• 42:56Speaker 04

  She can't catch a break.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  And it was too late.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  It's too late. This one is too late.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  And it's too late.

• 43:05Speaker 05

  It was like, so did you eat?

• 43:06Speaker 01

  Oh, and then the restaurant closes. And then you're like, what do I do now?

• 43:09Speaker 05

  Yeah. Did you eat something?

• 43:11Speaker 04

  I had, um, I don't know what I had.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  She like had factor.

• 43:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, I had. Yeah, I order factor every week.

• 43:18Speaker 03

  I always steal their.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  Wait, so you guys were just all in Korea for a month?

• 43:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:23Speaker 01

  Do you get to show them some of your favorite places that you like grew up going to?

• 43:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, there was like this place that her parents took us to and there was like literally five courses like, and one of them, it was like a steak with bubbles on it. It was crazy.

• 43:39Speaker 04

  It was like bubbles of soy sauce. So it was like bubbled up on steak, but then it would pop into soy sauce.

• 43:46Speaker 05

  It was so good.

• 43:47Speaker 02

  No, but she would also, cause you know how in Korea, they have the ramen cups and then there's like cheese and sausage and all that. And then we would like make combinations and make it in our hotel room in a microwave. Like we would take the buldak ramen and just like add sausage, cheese. Like, oh, she's like, your stomach's probably going up.

• 44:04Speaker 04

  Yeah. I can hear her stomach growling.

• 44:07Speaker 05

  Also like the shopping there is pretty fun. Like she introduces to Hongdae. Like, I don't know what that was. It's just like the city where you just go shopping, right?

• 44:18Speaker 05

  Yeah, there's a lot of cute stores. There's like a lot of like cute performances that people do like on the street as well. And it's a cute vibe and it's like a very young vibe. There, there's a lot of young people there. It's very hip and cool.

• 44:32Speaker 01

  What's your, what's your like favorite thing that you can't get in the States that you miss in Korea?

• 44:39Speaker 04

  Okay, uh, first, I miss going to Han River and eat ramen and.

• 44:45Speaker 05

  That was really good.

• 44:47Speaker 04

  That's what I really love to do in Korea. And also, Yukkoe, um, what is it? Like meat sashimi? It's like a.

• 45:01Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's like that kind of.

• 45:04Speaker 02

  It's like a.

• 45:04Speaker 04

  I, I've never seen that in States. So like I miss.

• 45:08Speaker 02

  Like a meat tartar.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 45:10Speaker 04

  But it's like, it's like different how you eat.

• 45:13Speaker 01

  I know what you mean. Yeah.

• 45:15Speaker 02

  So good. I had that in Korea too with soba.

• 45:17Speaker 04

  Yeah. I feel like a lot of Korean food, but there's a lot of Korean food here. Very good Korean.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  Do you have a favorite spot you go to?

• 45:25Speaker 04

  Here?

• 45:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:27Speaker 04

  What about that place we went for your birthday? Quarters?

• 45:30Speaker 01

  Quarters is fire.

• 45:31Speaker 02

  Dude, it's so fucking good.

• 45:33Speaker 01

  Quarters is fire.

• 45:35Speaker 04

  Quarters?

• 45:36Speaker 03

  Be honest, be honest.

• 45:38Speaker 04

  Do we be honest?

• 45:40Speaker 01

  Speak your truth. Speak your truth.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  Say it. Um, no, I really liked it.

• 45:46Speaker 02

  No, there was another one that I went to and you said. I also went to one with you and your mom. We went to.

• 45:52Speaker 04

  B C D tofu.

• 45:55Speaker 04

  I, sometimes I order it and I would eat.

• 45:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, that place is really good.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  Well, Sophia, what are you therapist about today?

• 46:03Speaker 02

  I feel like I hate that I've, I've honestly having to talk about this so much recently, but I feel like it's like almost becoming like me making it a personality trait, but my ADHD has been so bad.

• 46:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, I get it. I get it.

• 46:14Speaker 02

  And I'm really pissed about it.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  I completely understand.

• 46:16Speaker 02

  This morning I had therapy while I was getting ready and I was just like, wow, it's like, if I, if I could picture my ADHD in something physical, it would literally be like a roll of duct tape, like firstly going over my mouth and then to the corners of my eyes and into my ears and just like fogging up everything and like making it so difficult and into my hands and then duct taping me somewhere, but then also like out of nowhere, it just disappears and then duct tapes me again. It's just like, it's so frustrating recently. I'm like so pissed about it.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  Do you have any like methods that you use to like calm it down when it flares up?

• 46:53Speaker 02

  I've been trying really hard, but I think at this moment for the past couple of months, for almost a year now, actually, it's like spiked so much. Like even when I was in training, it was a problem. And like, I think growing up to it, it was, it was undiagnosed and it's very different from when you, like when you're an adult and when you're a kid and especially for women and for men, it's very different. And a lot of it comes from like my upbringing or like depending on what your environment is. It's really like, like, it's really like that when you have something as like ADHD, but recently it's been so disruptive that I am like somebody who doesn't ask for help, but I'm literally like asking medical help for it. Cause it's so, it's so bad. I like can't sleep.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:34Speaker 02

  Cause I'm so internally restless.

• 47:36Speaker 01

  But then during the day, you're exhausted.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  During the day I'm exhausted and like I, I can't, when I sleep too, it takes me so long to fall asleep because my brain never shuts off. And then I just end up like having like nightmares and then I just wake up at night and then it's so hard for me to fall back asleep. And then when I wake up, it's so hard for me to get up and I don't also don't feel well rest. I've never, I haven't been well rested in months.

• 47:57Speaker 01

  I completely relate to you on that.

• 47:58Speaker 05

  I was gonna say, like for me, like I, my ADHD spikes up when I'm tired, like when I'm super exhausted. I wonder if that's what's why it's.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  I think that's a lot of it too.

• 48:08Speaker 05

  Recently, we've been like really tired.

• 48:13Speaker 03

  I definitely think I need to rest more. Like I haven't quite been prioritizing my rest, but I, on my off days, like I will do a session and like create something because sometimes I think like we, we perform so much and deliver so much, which is also like beautiful and it's so fun, but like I have a need inside of me to like also just like express. And like recently, I used to only really love like production and making beats, but like recently I've really fallen in love with writing. And like I've been writing poems and like journaling and I think I'm feeling really deeply recently. So

• 48:56Speaker 03

  it's so strange. Like everything around me inspires me and speaks to me in a different way. Like the trees.

• 49:04Speaker 01

  No, but yeah, but writing thoughts down, I've also been like kind of writing like in my journal more, not songs, but just writing in my journal more. And I feel like when you put thought to paper, it kind of helps you figure out what you're feeling. More than just like saying it out loud was. Like I was writing down stuff the other day and I was like, oh.

• 49:29Speaker 03

  It's kind of like better than, uh, just for me, like better than therapy because I'm like, I'm processing this in my own head and I'm like having a conversation with myself, but through words on paper and like so much like beautiful art for me recently has come out of that. And like on my off days, like I'll just dedicate the entire day, anytime we have to doing that. Cause it's like, it's like rest in a form for me. It's like, like, does that make sense?

• 50:00Speaker 03

  It's like a release. Even though I'm like working, it's like not work. Like that's like, creating is like my favorite. Just like music. I care about it so much that it's like, it's this form of release and it really rejuvenates me to be able to come in to work the next day and like do our job.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like, I mean, you could like, it's like you're like letting go of all that baggage you've carried throughout the week into.

• 50:25Speaker 03

  Yes. Into like music or into, yeah, into art or like into poems too. Like I, it's just like, I used to hate that so much. And I used to be like, I'm not a songwriter and I still like, it's hard for me to see myself as a songwriter, but like I used to be like, I only care about how music sounds and like what it's, like what the production is and how, what the melody is. But now I'm like, no, lyrics are so important. Like what you're saying is so important. And like, that's like the beauty of music. It's like you're telling a story through sound. And like now I've just fallen in love with like writing and so it's beautiful.

• 51:10Speaker 01

  Oh, it's amazing. What are your guys' off days?

• 51:13Speaker 05

  I'm a homebody. I just stay at home and sleep and just like, I just, my soul needs to be like rejuvenated, you know? So for that, I just like stay at home. Also, like I just moved. So my home is like my like safe space and I just like decorated it. And so it's really cute. And I just, I don't know. I like spending time like on my little couch or on my balcony. Um, I watch TV. Um, I just try to like, just like do nothing because we're always doing something.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 51:47Speaker 05

  And also like, I'll call like.

• 51:53Speaker 05

  Are you okay?

• 51:54Speaker 03

  What?

• 51:57Speaker 03

  Why?

• 51:58Speaker 05

  Did you throw up in your mouth a little bit?

• 52:00Speaker 04

  She like gurgled or something.

• 52:02Speaker 01

  Wait, I do that all the time on this show and I always get scared that someone hears.

• 52:06Speaker 05

  Oh, well, we heard it. It was quiet.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  I thought nobody heard.

• 52:10Speaker 05

  No, because it was so quiet.

• 52:13Speaker 04

  They're like, holding a microphone, like they're gonna hear that later.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 52:17Speaker 05

  Okay, anyways. So, I'm a homebody, but we, we were talking about this, like, the other day, um, it's hard to make friends in LA.

• 52:27Speaker 01

  Very hard.

• 52:27Speaker 05

  I want to make friends, like, I want to go out and I want to just, like, hang out with people because I feel like that's good also for my soul. But I don't, it, I just, I don't have friends and so.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  It's tough.

• 52:40Speaker 05

  Literally, like, a couple of days ago, I reached out to, like, a couple of people because I need to do it for my soul.

• 52:44Speaker 03

  Oh, you did it?

• 52:45Speaker 05

  I did.

• 52:46Speaker 03

  You did it?

• 52:46Speaker 05

  I did do it.

• 52:49Speaker 05

  Thank you, guys.

• 52:51Speaker 04

  We encouraged her.

• 52:52Speaker 03

  We encouraged her because we're like, because you have to, like, you have to help yourself.

• 52:56Speaker 05

  You have to be the one to, like, text the person, unfortunately.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  You should.

• 53:01Speaker 04

  You should.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  It's hard, though. It's hard.

• 53:03Speaker 05

  Because you also, like, expect, like, you're like, but I want them to reach out to me, like, I want people to be able to, like, want to hang out with me, you know what I mean? So it's hard.

• 53:14Speaker 01

  You should also give yourself grace, though, like, you guys didn't go have those college years where, like, you were, like, in college, like, essentially, trained me how to make friends. Like, I was like, okay, you're, like, put in a dorm with all these people, you are not gonna get along with half of them, but you're gonna be friends with half of them, and it's like a very confusing thing, so you have to give yourself grace in knowing that, like, you didn't have that. And so you're still figuring it out.

• 53:39Speaker 05

  Well, I kind of did, sort of, with them.

• 53:43Speaker 04

  Our college was like.

• 53:44Speaker 01

  Our college was Dream Academy.

• 53:45Speaker 05

  We, we lived with, like, twenty girls.

• 53:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, some of us went through high school during training, too.

• 53:52Speaker 01

  How?

• 53:52Speaker 04

  Like, we would come in at, like, eight in the morning and do, like, three hours of school.

• 53:56Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 53:57Speaker 05

  That was crazy.

• 53:58Speaker 03

  With Colleen.

• 53:59Speaker 02

  I, I was in college and then I dropped out for this.

• 54:01Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 54:01Speaker 01

  Oh, where were you in college?

• 54:02Speaker 02

  In the Philippines. I, it was online, though, it was, like, still pandemic, like, and I don't, I was just with my best friend, so. I, I finished high school, though, so, like, I had that whole, like, social experience and I had a lot of things also outside of school. Like, I had a lot of, like, different communities, so, like, the social aspect of it, like, my friends now, I don't, I don't really have any, like, new friends here, really, that are, like, core, I'm, I've always been very tight. So I'm, I'm, my friends at home are, like, still the people that I constantly talk to and I'm, I'm, like, okay with that. Like, I'm the type of person, like, I'm not like, oh, like, I don't have friends, like, I need to, like, go, it's just, like, the type of person I am. Because I'm super homebody, but also very extroverted, yeah.

• 54:39Speaker 05

  Like, I'm in between.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's an in-between.

• 54:42Speaker 05

  There's an in-between, like, there's days where, like, I don't care, like, I don't need friends, like, I have my people and I have my people back at home and that's all I need. But then there's some days where I'll, like, kind of get FOMO and I'll see, like, like, the other girls go out or I'll just see people online go out and, like, they have, like, their group of friends and I'm like, I'm like, damn, like, that kind of looks fun and also, like, it's more fun to go with a group of people versus, like, just one or two. So I wish I had, like, a group of friends that aren't in Cat's Eye, love you guys to death. But it's all. It's important.

• 55:18Speaker 03

  No offense, because, like, we, we need that, too.

• 55:21Speaker 05

  We're like sisters. Sisters, yeah, so.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  Yeah, the rest is a part of our job, like, we are not, we, we don't just sing on stage, like, you see what we do on stage and recovery and actual, like, sleep and rest is a part of our job.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Like, on our off days, we have to do physical therapy.

• 55:37Speaker 02

  We, we need to sleep, like, I have to go get my driver's license. I don't have time to get my driver's license, like, I gotta go.

• 55:43Speaker 05

  That was a big one. You don't drive? How, when you're just, like, Uber?

• 55:47Speaker 03

  You Uber everywhere.

• 55:48Speaker 02

  Me, too.

• 55:49Speaker 05

  Are you serious?

• 55:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can't drive. I grew up in New York, so I'm like, I just, and I got here and then all my friends started driving me and then I was like.

• 55:56Speaker 05

  Oh, you're like, okay, yeah.

• 55:58Speaker 03

  It's fine, yeah, it's fine.

• 55:59Speaker 01

  And it's safer for the roads. Talk about, talk about people that are bad at driving.

• 56:04Speaker 05

  Let me just say, the only time I've been in an accident was in a fucking Uber and I'm so pissed about it.

• 56:09Speaker 01

  Me, too, I was in Uber accidents as well.

• 56:10Speaker 05

  Really?

• 56:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, I got, I got T-boned.

• 56:13Speaker 03

  No way.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 56:15Speaker 05

  Did you, like, spin?

• 56:16Speaker 01

  No, wait, it, it, it was just, like, it happened, like, all of a sudden, it was, like, my body jolted and then it stopped for a second and then jolted harder.

• 56:24Speaker 02

  Wait, did you get anything, like, are you, like, were you okay?

• 56:27Speaker 01

  No, I was, I had whiplash on my.

• 56:28Speaker 05

  Oh, my god, I had whiplash for, like, half a year.

• 56:31Speaker 01

  It was so bad.

• 56:32Speaker 05

  Oh, my god.

• 56:33Speaker 01

  And we was.

• 56:33Speaker 02

  Maybe that's why you're, like, getting this nuts.

• 56:35Speaker 01

  It was a scam, because we were across the street from a hospital and then, right on the site, there was an Uber lawyer being like, were you just in an Uber accident? Let me talk to your dad.

• 56:46Speaker 05

  Oh, it's serious.

• 56:46Speaker 01

  And my dad was like, I think it's a scam, like, just go home. Isn't that crazy?

• 56:50Speaker 03

  Oh, wait, that is crazy.

• 56:52Speaker 05

  They just risked your life for a scam.

• 56:54Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 56:55Speaker 02

  That's actually insane.

• 56:56Speaker 05

  Wait, I just.

• 56:57Speaker 01

  Risk it all for a scam.

• 56:58Speaker 03

  Was that in LA?

• 56:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was in LA. It was in LA in, like, twenty sixteen.

• 57:03Speaker 05

  Diabolical.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was crazy.

• 57:05Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 57:06Speaker 01

  It was crazy and now every time I drive and I see a car coming this way and I'm going this way, I, like, I tense up.

• 57:11Speaker 05

  Yeah, PTSD.

• 57:12Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 57:13Speaker 04

  Can you imagine your mom?

• 57:15Speaker 02

  My mom would freak out.

• 57:16Speaker 04

  My mom is, like, yeah, she would freak out.

• 57:19Speaker 05

  Your mom would, like, would, like, flip the world.

• 57:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, my mom is dragon lady.

• 57:23Speaker 04

  That's what I call her.

• 57:24Speaker 02

  But in a great way.

• 57:25Speaker 03

  Oh, yes, in a good way.

• 57:26Speaker 01

  Is she, is she kind of, like, the group's mom, like, who do, or, like?

• 57:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, because, I think.

• 57:31Speaker 02

  Mom.

• 57:32Speaker 04

  I think all of our moms are very, like, group mom, but my mom.

• 57:36Speaker 05

  They're their own Cat's Eye.

• 57:37Speaker 01

  Really?

• 57:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 57:39Speaker 01

  Bob's Eye?

• 57:39Speaker 05

  But they, it's a very, it's highly active.

• 57:42Speaker 04

  It's, it's.

• 57:42Speaker 02

  It's also more active than our group chat.

• 57:44Speaker 03

  But we, we always say that we think Auntie Sylvia, her mom would be the leader of Cat's Eye. Like, like, if, if they had their own girl group, her mom would be the leader.

• 57:54Speaker 05

  Our moms would be troublemakers.

• 57:55Speaker 03

  Our moms would be the troublemakers. Our moms are really good friends.

• 57:58Speaker 05

  Our mom, what happened was.

• 58:00Speaker 04

  Same with Auntie Sylvia.

• 58:01Speaker 05

  We went to the Philippines, okay, and that's where I'm from.

• 58:03Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 58:04Speaker 05

  And my mom and her mom.

• 58:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, they get drunk together.

• 58:07Speaker 05

  Get drunk, her mom doesn't drink.

• 58:08Speaker 04

  My mom doesn't drink.

• 58:09Speaker 05

  Get her mom drunk.

• 58:11Speaker 03

  I can't believe it.

• 58:13Speaker 05

  Her mom told me, she, like, told me what they did, they were, like, saying, like, her and Auntie Kavita were like, oh, like, they were, like, drinking and then they were like, no, no, no, you just have to hold it for the photo.

• 58:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, they're like Sylvia, just sip.

• 58:22Speaker 05

  Just, just, like, hold it for the photo and they're like, well, now you're holding it, you gotta take a sip. And it just kept going.

• 58:27Speaker 01

  That's how it starts.

• 58:28Speaker 05

  And they arrived at our show and there's, like, videos, they arrived at our show before we even came out. And they're all the time screaming, and your mom, our moms were like.

• 58:36Speaker 04

  I've never seen my mom, like, that, like, the biggest smile on her face, she was like.

• 58:41Speaker 05

  They were gone.

• 58:42Speaker 03

  They were, like, the icons were, like, chanting their names and they were, like, they were, like, basking in them.

• 58:48Speaker 05

  Your mom was like, my mom.

• 58:50Speaker 04

  Also, my mom's the biggest BTS fan, maybe more than us, and I got a text from her last night being like, I got on the Jumbotron.

• 58:58Speaker 04

  She got on the Jumbotron with, like, she makes signs, like, for every show that she goes to, even, including BTS, and she got on the Jumbotron last night for BTS and she got a video and she was like, oh.

• 59:11Speaker 03

  That's so cute.

• 59:12Speaker 04

  I was like, now we have to put her on the Jumbotron.

• 59:14Speaker 05

  That's an AMA, isn't your mom trying to, like, hold her up?

• 59:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:19Speaker 05

  Wait, what happened?

• 59:20Speaker 03

  Okay, because, um, our parents came to the AMAs and BTS was there and Auntie Sylvia was, like, so, like, weak in the knees.

• 59:31Speaker 05

  She was crying, she had to take off her heels.

• 59:34Speaker 03

  My mom said she had to take off her heels and, and she became weak in the knees by seeing those men. And so, like, my mom and her friend had to, like, hold her up.

• 59:44Speaker 05

  No way. No, because my friend came and he was like, we had to hold her, your mom was crying on him.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  Oh, so your mom is, like, the biggest BTS fan on Twitter?

• 59:55Speaker 05

  Yeah, she is. She was in Vegas for BTS and Cat's Eye just happened to be there.

• 59:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, she did not care.

• 1:00:00Speaker 05

  All three of the Vegas shows for BTS.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  Oh, did she? Who's her bias?

• 1:00:04Speaker 05

  Suga.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 1:00:06Speaker 05

  Well, we just happened, she was like, oh, wait, Megan's gonna be there, too, like.

• 1:00:10Speaker 04

  Like, she didn't care about the acceptance speech or anything, she was just happy to see BTS.

• 1:00:14Speaker 05

  And then we went backstage for the BTS show to meet them and she was like, can I come?

• 1:00:19Speaker 03

  She's like, you finally made me proud back at Cat's Eye.

• 1:00:22Speaker 05

  Finally.

• 1:00:23Speaker 04

  Finally.

• 1:00:23Speaker 05

  You met BTS. This was it?

• 1:00:28Speaker 01

  You guys are about to release a new EP called Wild.

• 1:00:31Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:00:33Speaker 03

  Yes, we are.

• 1:00:33Speaker 01

  And then you're gonna go on a global arena tour.

• 1:00:36Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:00:37Speaker 01

  Tell me about all of it.

• 1:00:39Speaker 05

  It's our first ever arena tour.

• 1:00:42Speaker 03

  It's crazy.

• 1:00:43Speaker 05

  Actually, it's, it's our second tour, it's sold out.

• 1:00:45Speaker 03

  It got sold out in a day.

• 1:00:46Speaker 05

  They added, I think, new dates, right? And then it's sold out, like, everything is sold out, we're going to Europe, we're doing North America and we're going to new places that we've never gone to before and it's really, really exciting. I love going on tour and we're gone for, like, a while, too.

• 1:01:01Speaker 03

  We're going on a bus.

• 1:01:02Speaker 05

  We're going on a tour.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  Oh, you've never done a bus before?

• 1:01:05Speaker 05

  No, I've never done a bus.

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  Oh, you guys are gonna have the best time.

• 1:01:08Speaker 03

  So, so when I heard that, we're being split into two buses.

• 1:01:12Speaker 05

  Yeah. Yes, we, okay, we experienced the tour bus a little bit, actually, it was Coachella Day.

• 1:01:18Speaker 03

  And we were in Palm Springs, so we took like a tour bus to go to Coachella. It was like forty-five minutes.

• 1:01:23Speaker 02

  It was so cute.

• 1:01:24Speaker 03

  Cause like we got to like sleep in the little like bed.

• 1:01:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  So cozy.

• 1:01:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, we kept keying, like we would like open the curtain and like laugh and. Yeah, and we were like climbing, like, it was crazy.

• 1:01:35Speaker 02

  We were climbing and like we would be upside down.

• 1:01:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, we were like doing somersaults, like.

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Like monkey bars.

• 1:01:40Speaker 03

  I can't wait to, I can't wait to like decorate the bus. I know.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  Like, are we like stickers?

• 1:01:45Speaker 01

  And like you'll get close with the driver and like, it would be so awesome. You guys are gonna have the best time.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  Me and Laura were thinking, like, we're gonna make like a little studio in the back.

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  Oh, how awesome would that be?

• 1:01:56Speaker 02

  And like our little off time, we would like make music.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Wait, they would be so cute.

• 1:01:59Speaker 02

  Me and Megan, we um, we do our sessions sometimes.

• 1:02:03Speaker 03

  We've had some hits and some misses.

• 1:02:05Speaker 01

  Wait, you know, you know, you know my favorite.

• 1:02:08Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, sing it, Penny.

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  Cat's Eye.

• 1:02:10Speaker 03

  Cat's Eye.

• 1:02:16Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, that one's good.

• 1:02:18Speaker 01

  What is exciting to you guys most about this new era?

• 1:02:23Speaker 03

  Oh, okay, I, there, there's many things. There's like, there's this one song that I, like, me and Sophia specifically really like this song. It's really catchy. It's like.

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  I love it so much.

• 1:02:37Speaker 03

  I love it. Like also, also I finally listened to the version with our voices yesterday and it's like, it sounds so good. Like honestly, I think it's one of the first times, like, you can really, really hear each of our tones, like natural colors of our voice. And like, it was nice because I have like a Cat's Eye voice that I'll, I'll put on, like, for like the pop vibe. But I think in this song, it wasn't really that. Like you could hear my natural color and I feel the same way with all the girls. Yeah, for sure. So, I'm really excited about that one. I know the icons are gonna love that one.

• 1:03:10Speaker 01

  When this comes out, will the tracklist be out?

• 1:03:12Speaker 02

  So we can't, we can't say like what, how many, what the names are, but we did very recently finally get like the masters of the songs on this EP. And it's all I've been listening to.

• 1:03:23Speaker 03

  Same.

• 1:03:24Speaker 02

  And the thing is, I know that it eats when I'm listening to like, like constantly wanting to listen to it as if it's not even our song.

• 1:03:31Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:03:31Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  I feel like a lot of artists sometimes don't really listen to their own music, especially, I feel like for us, a lot of our songs, we have to rehearse them for hours and hours because of the choreography that comes with it. And so like you kind of just get sick of it a little bit, but then like some songs we don't perform as often, so we want to listen to it. But the thing is, all the songs, like I'm wanting to listen to it, just like, I was in the shower listening to our own music, like so excited for it to come out.

• 1:03:53Speaker 03

  Especially that one.

• 1:03:54Speaker 02

  Especially that one song I had on loop.

• 1:03:56Speaker 03

  You're gonna like that song.

• 1:03:57Speaker 01

  I wanna hear it!

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  I'm excited to perform that song.

• 1:04:00Speaker 03

  Me too. You're gonna like that song, you know. I know, yeah, I am.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  Oh, I wanna hear it!

• 1:04:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's that one song. It is so.

• 1:04:07Speaker 02

  I just, I just like love it.

• 1:04:09Speaker 03

  I think it's like the best Cat's Eye song. Same.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  What are you talking about? It's so good. When I texted you in the chat, that song.

• 1:04:17Speaker 03

  It's so good.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  I literally texted you in the chat, I was like, you guys, like, I fucking love this song.

• 1:04:20Speaker 03

  Like, it's so catchy. Like, I really like it. It's like, it feels like pop girl realness.

• 1:04:25Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm ready.

• 1:04:26Speaker 03

  It feels like, it feels like girl group, like what you want to hear from Cat's Eye.

• 1:04:30Speaker 02

  I was in the shower, like pretending I was actually already performing and I was thinking of like, okay, which dancer is gonna come to me and like do this part with me. I was like.

• 1:04:36Speaker 03

  I know, it's like, it's sexy.

• 1:04:38Speaker 01

  How do you guys like formulate your chemistry, um, as like when you're performing?

• 1:04:44Speaker 02

  Oh, Sohe and Graham.

• 1:04:45Speaker 03

  Performers and directors.

• 1:04:47Speaker 02

  And also like the label in general.

• 1:04:48Speaker 03

  Yeah. What, what I learned is that also a lot of it, I, I, I don't think I realized it, but a lot of it is like strategic, I think as well. For them, like, like they were explaining to us, like, who starts the song, who finishes that, who does the pre-chorus, like, it's all very like strategically distributed between us. Yeah, it's not like random. Yeah, it's not random. For a reason. But, but I do think like, say they're like, okay Laura, you're gonna sing the pre-chorus, but then I try it and it's like, Sophia sounds better and I sound better somewhere else, like they will. Switch it. Have flexibility with that.

• 1:05:21Speaker 02

  But I think for like performances, like, it really depends if it's like a dance, if like we're dancing or if we're not, like, if we're dancing, they usually come up with the choreo beforehand and then we like learn it. And then, but if it's not like MIA, like, we incorporate a lot of our own ideas, like, especially like for Coachella, we were really, really a part of that process being like, I want to do this. Like, or like, when we started on the buildings, like Danny, me, like Laura, like we were like all coming up with those ideas, like Laura's idea was to come out of the window.

• 1:05:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:52Speaker 02

  So, yeah, I think we get like a lot of, a lot more freedom with our songs that we don't really have to do choreo with.

• 1:05:59Speaker 03

  And it switches up too.

• 1:06:00Speaker 02

  It switches, yeah.

• 1:06:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, like for MIA especially, like since it's so free, like for Coachella, like I did that part on top of the building, but for Gov Ball, like, it's gonna be a little bit different.

• 1:06:11Speaker 01

  Are you guys excited for Gov Ball?

• 1:06:12Speaker 02

  I'm so excited. New York!

• 1:06:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  New York!

• 1:06:17Speaker 03

  I love New York.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  I used to go to Gov Ball in high school all the time. Yes, yes, I used to go all the time. It's so fun. Wait, is it next weekend?

• 1:06:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, next weekend.

• 1:06:26Speaker 01

  I'm gone.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  Where are you?

• 1:06:27Speaker 03

  Where are you going?

• 1:06:28Speaker 01

  France.

• 1:06:31Speaker 03

  Where are you going to France?

• 1:06:32Speaker 02

  To France.

• 1:06:33Speaker 01

  The Grand Prix.

• 1:06:35Speaker 03

  For what?

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  The Grand Prix, like the.

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  The Grand Prix.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Like the race car.

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:06:40Speaker 02

  I know, I know, I know.

• 1:06:42Speaker 01

  I know what it is.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  The Grand Prix.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's like that's one stuff.

• 1:06:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:46Speaker 02

  That's so fun.

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:06:48Speaker 03

  Cute. Sports, sports cars.

• 1:06:51Speaker 01

  Well, I'm just going because I want to go to France.

• 1:06:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, you're in France. Well, no, I would love to go to the Grand Prix.

• 1:06:57Speaker 01

  Right, that's.

• 1:06:57Speaker 03

  Like, that sounds country.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  But I'm, I'm very jealous of the performance that I'll, I'll be missing.

• 1:07:03Speaker 03

  Wait, are you gonna surf like looks? Like are you getting styled and stuff?

• 1:07:05Speaker 01

  Well, I'm not gonna get styled. Lately, I've been like trying to like, actually, I was gonna ask you guys about your own styles as well, cause you guys, you guys have colors.

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  Oh my god, girls!

• 1:07:17Speaker 01

  So I want to hear about the colors.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  I fucking have colors!

• 1:07:20Speaker 03

  This was during Sis' era.

• 1:07:24Speaker 02

  This was like when we debuted.

• 1:07:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:07:26Speaker 02

  But we also had like a personal color and it was all pastel. And so they announced, they, they like, they assigned it on their own, the company to us and they also like.

• 1:07:35Speaker 03

  This is your favorite color.

• 1:07:36Speaker 02

  This is your favorite color. This is actually my least favorite color. In our album cover for the Sis, like we're all standing in our personal colors, like I'm in purple, like she's in pink and like, she's in like orange.

• 1:07:47Speaker 01

  You too love the pink.

• 1:07:48Speaker 02

  I like the pink.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  She loves her colors.

• 1:07:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, you have the blue.

• 1:07:51Speaker 02

  I do too, I love the blue.

• 1:07:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, blue is gorgeous. We like blue, it's my favorite color. It's just that coral and green.

• 1:07:56Speaker 02

  I hate my color. I actually.

• 1:07:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, you two hate your colors.

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  I fucking hate it. And it's also like, I, I hate the color orange. Like I really try to fight to have red.

• 1:08:03Speaker 03

  I actually love orange.

• 1:08:05Speaker 02

  No, I don't like orange.

• 1:08:06Speaker 01

  I hated orange was the color of the summer a while ago and it did not come to fruition because of now, no, because I tried to, I wore an all orange outfit one day and everyone was like.

• 1:08:16Speaker 03

  Wait, wait, I used to hate orange and then I figured out, like, no, I'm actually like. It also depends like what tone of orange.

• 1:08:22Speaker 02

  Yes. Like, there's so many different tones of orange. Peach, cream, orange, and it was just not giving.

• 1:08:28Speaker 03

  It washed you out.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  It washed you out so badly. And at the time I had orange hair. So I was just like, orange, orange, orange, orange, orange.

• 1:08:35Speaker 03

  No, but it's so annoying because now when you look up on Google, like what is Laura from Cat's Eye's favorite color? It's like, green! And I'm like, no! It's not green.

• 1:08:44Speaker 02

  It's not.

• 1:08:45Speaker 03

  It's not. We have this strange lore about this place called Nowhere Land.

• 1:08:51Speaker 01

  Wait, tell me.

• 1:08:52Speaker 02

  Wait, we should talk about it. Yeah, we should talk about it because, because we don't.

• 1:08:55Speaker 01

  Tell me about it.

• 1:08:56Speaker 02

  Okay, I have to tell you.

• 1:08:57Speaker 03

  Because you were in Nowhere Land. Yeah, tell us, tell us.

• 1:08:59Speaker 02

  I'm in Nowhere Land. Um, I, I actually saw one fan posted TikTok video and that's how I know.

• 1:09:09Speaker 03

  Oh, wow.

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  They deciphered it for us.

• 1:09:11Speaker 03

  That's not true.

• 1:09:12Speaker 02

  That's not true.

• 1:09:13Speaker 03

  I already knew.

• 1:09:15Speaker 02

  You have to explain Touch, like what happened. That's where it started. Touch is where it started. Yeah, Touch was when we started. I'm the missing person.

• 1:09:23Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:09:23Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:09:25Speaker 03

  That's that.

• 1:09:25Speaker 02

  That's that.

• 1:09:26Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 1:09:27Speaker 01

  What do you mean you're the missing person?

• 1:09:28Speaker 03

  She's like a missing person and she's gone to Nowhere Land. That's it, that's literally the whole thing. We're like in the real world, but then there's a new development.

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  Yeah. There's a new development.

• 1:09:39Speaker 03

  Do you want to tell them?

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  There's, we're, that's, we're doppelganger.

• 1:09:45Speaker 03

  It kind of feels like the world.

• 1:09:47Speaker 01

  You're like, you guys.

• 1:09:48Speaker 03

  So the real Cat's Eye is like not us, like, like the real Cat's Eye has been banished.

• 1:09:53Speaker 02

  Like the other mother.

• 1:09:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, and they've, they've been banished and stuck in Nowhere Land.

• 1:09:59Speaker 02

  If you watch the Touch Music video back, in the beginning, I'm crawling through this like AC unit and I call out and I end up in Nowhere Land and it's just this whole world that we're in. But then, you see there's this paper, it's like on the news that Yunche is missing, so it's kind of like the real world. I was like, wait, Yunche's gone. But they don't realize yet that we're all also gone.

• 1:10:16Speaker 01

  So you're missing in Nowhere Land?

• 1:10:17Speaker 02

  Yes, because I jumped out of this painting, okay? And it's like, it slashes, but then Yunche is like isn't.

• 1:10:23Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. Wait, I thought it was the opposite. I thought, no, everything wasn't slashed except Yunche's because she already fell through into the Nowhere Land.

• 1:10:31Speaker 02

  No, no, no, I think it was, whatever it is, it's one of the two. But there's a, there's a difference. You'll see it. And then in gnarly music video, to be kind of continue the story where we were all based in Nowhere Land, because instead of the Hollywood sign, it says Nowhere Land. Ow!

• 1:10:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:10:45Speaker 02

  So we have this like lore going on that like, if you are so deeply into our content, like you would notice. Like, it's like for the icons that are really icons.

• 1:10:53Speaker 03

  It's like a story.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  I love this. How fun!

• 1:10:56Speaker 02

  It's just like a fun additional thing for our fans to like dive into, you know?

• 1:11:02Speaker 01

  Okay, should we do the tell me what's wrongs?

• 1:11:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  This is where people write in.

• 1:11:08Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:11:08Speaker 01

  And we give them advice.

• 1:11:09Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:11:12Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 1:11:13Speaker 03

  I love advice.

• 1:11:14Speaker 05

  I'm not gonna lie, I literally watched one of your episodes last night before I went to bed.

• 1:11:17Speaker 01

  Which one?

• 1:11:18Speaker 05

  I watched the one with Maddie Ziegler.

• 1:11:20Speaker 01

  Oh, she's the best.

• 1:11:21Speaker 05

  Yeah. She's one of the people that I just texted, by the way.

• 1:11:25Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:11:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, to hang out.

• 1:11:26Speaker 01

  And she, by the way, is the best hang. I was in New York, I got dinner with her, just me and her, and it was like, I literally could have sat there for hours.

• 1:11:32Speaker 05

  Oh my god, I love her.

• 1:11:34Speaker 01

  She will, she will. She's a real bitch. Put you under her wing and like really, like, good person.

• 1:11:38Speaker 05

  Real bitch. Her sister too.

• 1:11:40Speaker 01

  Yes, Kenzie, the best.

• 1:11:41Speaker 05

  Kenzie, yeah, so, so cute.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  Love you.

• 1:11:44Speaker 05

  Thank you. Last time I saw her, I was like 12, last time I saw her, so I don't know what it's gonna be like, but.

• 1:11:51Speaker 01

  It'll be great, she's the best.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, they both, they both seem so genuine.

• 1:11:55Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:11:56Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:11:56Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:11:57Speaker 01

  Laura, this one might be.

• 1:11:58Speaker 03

  Oh, get that.

• 1:11:59Speaker 01

  For you.

• 1:11:59Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 1:12:00Speaker 01

  I'm so scared to run into my ex out and about in LA, did you write this?

• 1:12:05Speaker 05

  You sent this in?

• 1:12:06Speaker 02

  Wait, what?

• 1:12:07Speaker 01

  Swear.

• 1:12:08Speaker 03

  Okay, okay.

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  That's crazy.

• 1:12:10Speaker 05

  Help.

• 1:12:12Speaker 01

  I'm so scared to run into my ex out and about in LA, that's like kept me from going out on so many nights. I don't like that she has the power over me, but I'm hurting, and if I saw her, it'd be lights out. My friends are always inviting me out, but it's to all the places she might be going, help.

• 1:12:28Speaker 03

  Okay, okay. Unfortunately, I see one of my exes almost every time I go out, like, it just happens. It just happens, I think I saw my ex-girlfriend like from high school, like, last week, like, it's just like, if I'm like getting coffee, your ex is there, it's gonna feel like you're being haunted.

• 1:12:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:12:49Speaker 03

  But I think you just gotta get through it, like, you just have to accept that you will, and like, it can always just be like a, hey, like, how you doing?

• 1:12:57Speaker 05

  You can't live your life in fear.

• 1:12:58Speaker 03

  You can't live your life in fear.

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  Don't hold back.

• 1:13:01Speaker 03

  They exist too, and honestly, something that helped me is like, they probably feel the exact same way. Like, they're probably also scared, and like, they're feeling the same awkwardness, so it's like, at the end of the day, it's like, whatever, we're both humans, we're existing, we can coexist.

• 1:13:19Speaker 01

  Ripping off a Band-Aid.

• 1:13:20Speaker 03

  It's just ripping off a Band-Aid, I think, yeah, after the first couple times you see them, you realize it's really not as like, like, the feelings don't really all come rushing back to you as much as you think they would. Um, but it's, sorry, it's tough though, because if you don't have enough time to heal before you see that person, I feel like I'm giving such bad advice, because it's like, because it sucks. But it's like, when you don't have enough time to heal, and then you see the person like while you're still healing, that's really hard.

• 1:13:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:13:52Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 1:13:53Speaker 03

  Like, I think like during my period especially, oh my god, my first heartbreak, and like with my first love, my ex moved to New York. Um, and it's actually crazy, because like, I moved from New York and went to school and we met there, and then he went, moved to New York after we broke up and went to the school I went to in New York.

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:14:16Speaker 03

  So he like became friends with all my friends, so that I was like, like grew up with, like before I moved to LA. You know what I mean, and so, it was, that was really difficult, but he like moved away, so after we broke up and I was dealing with my heartbreak, like, we didn't see each other, and like, that was really helpful. Do you know what I mean, like, if we were like still going to school and seeing each other, it would have been awful. So, I think like that space is really nice, but once you actually see them, it's like, it's not really that deep.

• 1:14:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not that deep.

• 1:14:51Speaker 03

  It's not that deep, like, it's fine, you'll, you'll get through it.

• 1:14:55Speaker 01

  My boyfriend got a haircut without telling me, and it's a buzz cut.

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  Oh my god. It's a what? It's a what?

• 1:15:01Speaker 01

  A buzz cut.

• 1:15:02Speaker 02

  Okay, that's the worst.

• 1:15:04Speaker 01

  It definitely doesn't look good on him, and I loved his hair, it was, it was his punishment for his fantasy league, whatever.

• 1:15:11Speaker 02

  Oh, I hate that, I know exactly where you're going. It's like they bet, you do it.

• 1:15:16Speaker 01

  They bet, they, they bet on like sports.

• 1:15:18Speaker 02

  Who wins?

• 1:15:19Speaker 01

  They're like, they pretend to be the, I think they like, I'm like very. Yes, very boy, so I'm like gonna do a shit job at explaining this, but like, boys have like fantasy leagues, so like, they'll like, what is it? I don't know what it is.

• 1:15:34Speaker 03

  It's like when people talk about fantasy football, is that what that is?

• 1:15:37Speaker 01

  And then like, he lost in fantasy football, so he had to shave his head.

• 1:15:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, like, they make you do crazy things. Also, if they don't let you know that they're gonna change their hair, like, it's like, cause your hair, hair on guys is like makeup for girls. Yeah. It's just like changing so much.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  I couldn't agree more.

• 1:15:55Speaker 02

  And like, it's just like the, using like an external factor to have you change your hair when like you like it anyway, and then like they, like, like, it's like, she'd probably be like, I'm the one that has a look at you, you know what I mean?

• 1:16:09Speaker 01

  Right, and she says, she says I'm on the.

• 1:16:10Speaker 02

  I like your hair, like, why would you like change it like that, like, you know how much it means to me, or something like that.

• 1:16:15Speaker 05

  The real question is, do you love him unconditionally?

• 1:16:18Speaker 02

  Yes. So with that too.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  She says, I'm on the edge of break, she says, I'm on the edge of breaking up with him, because not only do I dislike how it looks, but he made a decision without my permission.

• 1:16:30Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 1:16:31Speaker 02

  Okay, okay, okay. Okay, girl, you gotta get it together. You gotta get it together, cause like, that's his own, he can do, he doesn't need your permission to cut his hair, but I understand, like, he didn't tell you, but also. You need to break up with him, sis. Like, I know people who will cry when their like, their significant other like shaves their beard or something, cause they look, just because it's different, it doesn't mean like you hate it, it's just different, but like, breaking up with somebody just because it's.

• 1:16:55Speaker 03

  Imagine you wanted to dye your hair blue, and your boyfriend is like, no, that's ugly, you can't do that.

• 1:17:00Speaker 02

  You have to ask permission.

• 1:17:01Speaker 01

  We'd be like, what?

• 1:17:01Speaker 02

  Fuck you, I'm still dying my hair blue. Her hair goes back.

• 1:17:04Speaker 05

  Like, babe, maybe you guys should break up and you should work on yourself.

• 1:17:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:08Speaker 01

  Maybe that's the advice.

• 1:17:09Speaker 02

  Let's like, let's be real here.

• 1:17:11Speaker 03

  I actually think that you'd look really hot with the buzz cut.

• 1:17:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, okay, you know what?

• 1:17:16Speaker 02

  And bleach it.

• 1:17:17Speaker 01

  Thank you so much, because I've wanted to buzz my hair for the longest time.

• 1:17:21Speaker 03

  You should do it.

• 1:17:22Speaker 02

  Bleach buzz cut.

• 1:17:23Speaker 01

  And I've wanted to get an earring. Yes. I wanted to, but Louise told me it was bad for the brand.

• 1:17:30Speaker 05

  What, no, what do you mean? Is it like midlife crisis?

• 1:17:33Speaker 02

  No, like, you're just, you're just take it out when you don't think.

• 1:17:35Speaker 01

  You really think I'd look good with a buzz?

• 1:17:36Speaker 03

  I really think that I would not randomly say that.

• 1:17:39Speaker 02

  Wait, would you bleach it?

• 1:17:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:17:40Speaker 02

  Bleach your hair.

• 1:17:41Speaker 03

  Like it would get.

• 1:17:41Speaker 02

  Buzz it and get a piercing, like, just go crazy. Just do it. Just fucking do it.

• 1:17:45Speaker 01

  Like, fucking summer, it's summer.

• 1:17:49Speaker 02

  It's better than the orange.

• 1:17:50Speaker 03

  If you hate it, if you hate it, you can take the piercing out, and you can dye your hair back, it's fine.

• 1:17:55Speaker 02

  Like, you can reverse.

• 1:17:57Speaker 05

  That's not the end of the world.

• 1:17:58Speaker 01

  Buzz my hair.

• 1:18:00Speaker 03

  Wait, I wanna do it for you.

• 1:18:02Speaker 01

  Wait, you can.

• 1:18:03Speaker 03

  Can I?

• 1:18:03Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:04Speaker 02

  Wait, can I, can I bleach it for you?

• 1:18:06Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:18:06Speaker 03

  Wait, period, I don't know if I trust us with that.

• 1:18:09Speaker 01

  Group project.

• 1:18:10Speaker 03

  It'd be like a big group thing.

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  It'll be a big group project.

• 1:18:12Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 1:18:13Speaker 01

  Oh, uh huh, I'm buzzing my hair.

• 1:18:16Speaker 03

  Wait, can I get a boom, boom, boom?

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  My partner won't dance with me when we go out, ever.

• 1:18:23Speaker 02

  Fuck it, fuck it.

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:18:27Speaker 03

  No, throw it away.

• 1:18:28Speaker 05

  No, actually, continue, because.

• 1:18:30Speaker 03

  No, throw it away.

• 1:18:32Speaker 05

  Okay, just continue.

• 1:18:33Speaker 01

  Like, I really want, like, I really want them to, but they just say, I don't dance, I don't dance. I'm a very free spirit, so this sucks, but we match in every other way, I want them to share the experience with me and get out of the comfort zone. Do I just need to let it lie, or keep trying?

• 1:18:47Speaker 05

  No, okay, I think that, first of all, it depends how long they've been together, cause maybe it's still new, and maybe it's not, they're not as comfortable with each other yet, but, I mean, I think just give it time, and eventually like they'll open up, and like, if they really love you, they'll do something for you no matter what, like, just give it time, but I don't think I would, I wouldn't give up, I would just, just wait and give it time.

• 1:19:13Speaker 03

  You have to express, like, this is something that I really need.

• 1:19:16Speaker 05

  Yeah, sit down with them.

• 1:19:17Speaker 01

  Why don't you dance?

• 1:19:19Speaker 02

  Okay, actually, well, maybe, maybe they are insecure. For doing that.

• 1:19:25Speaker 01

  Yes, and maybe there's something.

• 1:19:26Speaker 02

  That's true. You know, but don't force, I just like, don't feel, I don't like forcing.

• 1:19:30Speaker 03

  There's always a reason.

• 1:19:32Speaker 02

  There's always a reason.

• 1:19:34Speaker 05

  And maybe ask like, hey, like, why won't you dance with me?

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  Just dance.

• 1:19:38Speaker 05

  Just dance.

• 1:19:41Speaker 02

  Oh, is there a bug?

• 1:19:43Speaker 01

  The bug's telling me, do not buzz your fucking head, that's what the bug is telling me, that's.

• 1:19:47Speaker 02

  No, don't listen to the bugs. Something very similar happened to me, I was watching this like set with like, some guy that I was seeing, and then I was like trying to like,

• 1:19:58Speaker 02

  oh, okay, I was like, ah, you wanna dance, and he was just kinda standing there, and I was like bouncing on it, and I was like, I was like, do you, do you wanna dance? Like, do you wanna dance, and he was like, I don't dance.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  I don't.

• 1:20:10Speaker 02

  I was like, what's your favorite dance move? Maybe they're like. Like this, and he was like, no. Maybe they're like trying to like aura farm or something? No. They just like, don't wanna like, like, just be comfortable and like let loose, like, they just wanna like mew and just be like.

• 1:20:25Speaker 03

  I have a crazy story.

• 1:20:27Speaker 01

  Tell me.

• 1:20:28Speaker 03

  What?

• 1:20:29Speaker 05

  Oh, boy.

• 1:20:30Speaker 02

  Oh, boy.

• 1:20:32Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 1:20:32Speaker 02

  Just say it, just say it really quick, just say it.

• 1:20:34Speaker 03

  One of my exes, basically, I went to Benny Blanco's party with Adella. This was our first time like going to like a big, like, we were like, oh my god, this is like a famous people party, like, we're like really on our best behavior, we're like, oh my god, like, we have to like be so cool, and like impress all these people. And I bring my ex, and she's like meeting this new guy who is now her boyfriend.

• 1:21:00Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 1:21:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, who is now her boyfriend, um, but I bring my ex, and we're just like partying, whatever, he's like not really like talking to anyone. I'm just like trying to keep cute, he's like kind of just, but like for his own reasons, like honestly, like love him, like, he's fine.

• 1:21:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, no shade, but then we go outside, and I think just like out of insecurity, like, I don't know what this was, but, I like, me and Omar Apollo started like talking, and I love Omar Apollo.

• 1:21:33Speaker 01

  Love Omar Apollo.

• 1:21:34Speaker 03

  Like, I had never met him, like, I love him, and I was like, oh my god, like, I'm such a fan, like, I love you, you're so sexy, like, you're the hottest man alive, but he's gay, you know what I mean, like, I say it in front of my ex, and like, I'm like, obviously, like, why would I tell a man, like, you're the hottest man alive, in front of my boyfriend, unless he's gay, like, do you know what I mean?

• 1:21:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:54Speaker 03

  And so then my boyfriend hears that, and he's like fuming.

• 1:21:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:21:57Speaker 03

  He's like, he's like, uh-uh, like, don't do that, and then we start talking, my ex is saying nothing, and then Omar Apollo like starts dancing, like, he's like popping and locking.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  He's a good dancer too.

• 1:22:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's a good dancer, but he was being funny, he was like doing the wave, and he was like, Laura, I'mma pass it to you, I'mma pass it to you. And then I start waving, and then it gets to my ex-boyfriend. He practically, like, he starts taking it a little bit too seriously, and he like challenges Omar Apollo to a dance battle, basically. Like, at Benny Blanco's birthday party. And I'm like mortified. I remember Adella and her boyfriend were like looking.

• 1:22:37Speaker 03

  And I see Phineas in the corner like eating a taco. I'm like, oh my god. I'm like, baby, like, get up.

• 1:22:47Speaker 03

  He like gets on the floor and he's like fully.

• 1:22:51Speaker 03

  He's like step upping Omar Apollo. And I wanted to.

• 1:22:58Speaker 01

  Tall man.

• 1:22:58Speaker 03

  Yeah, he is a tall man and me. I remember like me and Omar Apollo stood there. We were like, yeah, it's like, get it.

• 1:23:07Speaker 01

  How soon after did you break up?

• 1:23:08Speaker 03

  The next day. I actually, I genuinely, like, the day after I went, me and Adella went to Chateau Marmont and got lunch. And I was like, sis, like, this happened. And she was like, I saw. She was like, yeah, like, I think everybody saw that happen. And I was like, yeah. And she was like, you must break up with him. Like, this is, this is just not someone that aligns.

• 1:23:32Speaker 01

  With you.

• 1:23:33Speaker 03

  With you. For many reasons. And then I was like, alright, it's done. We broke up that day.

• 1:23:38Speaker 01

  Omar Apollo, breakdance skate.

• 1:23:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, breakdance skate.

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  Actually, like, the most craziest story I've ever heard.

• 1:23:42Speaker 03

  It's like genuinely.

• 1:23:43Speaker 02

  She came to rehearsal the next day, told us about it. And I was like, nothing happened. There's no fucking way that happened. And she was like, Sophia, I swear it happened. I was like, that's a dream.

• 1:23:53Speaker 03

  I feel like I called you.

• 1:23:54Speaker 01

  That sounds like my worst nightmare.

• 1:23:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was my, I was mortified. And I was like, baby, like, stand.

• 1:24:00Speaker 02

  Get up.

• 1:24:02Speaker 01

  So maybe it's better if your partner doesn't dance.

• 1:24:07Speaker 03

  But at the end of the day, no shade.

• 1:24:10Speaker 02

  We love you.

• 1:24:12Speaker 01

  All love.

• 1:24:13Speaker 03

  And true blessings.

• 1:24:14Speaker 01

  And makes for a funny story.

• 1:24:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, thank you for a wonderful story. This is my favorite story to tell. So, thanks.

• 1:24:21Speaker 01

  I get so much anxiety before I post anything on Instagram.

• 1:24:24Speaker 02

  Oh my god, me too.

• 1:24:25Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:24:26Speaker 02

  Well, not so much anxiety, but, okay. But like, I get it. Like, I understand why. I do understand why. She just wanted to relate.

• 1:24:32Speaker 01

  Dump stories, anything literally. Do you get anxiety as well?

• 1:24:37Speaker 02

  No, like, actually, like, like, posting on social media, like, it's a lot. It's a lot. Like, anything, it's like, okay, like, are people gonna like this? Like, do I look good? Like, like, you know what I mean? Like, there's a lot of, like, I cancel, like, there's a lot of, like, expectations.

• 1:24:54Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 1:24:55Speaker 02

  There's like expectations. I'm like, I'm gonna get to this many likes and. Is this a gag enough?

• 1:25:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's just like a scroll.

• 1:25:01Speaker 02

  Like, is this gonna do good? Is this gonna do bad? So anyways, keep going.

• 1:25:06Speaker 01

  Anything literally sends me into a spiral.

• 1:25:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:25:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:25:09Speaker 01

  I'm so in my head about what other people are gonna think because text doesn't carry the same inflection. And I really want, who wrote this?

• 1:25:17Speaker 01

  And I really wanna get over this. Help, is it really that serious?

• 1:25:20Speaker 02

  It's not that serious, but I understand why you're anxious about it. But okay, you know what I've actually been doing recently? I've been taking Instagram so casually.

• 1:25:29Speaker 01

  That's my motto.

• 1:25:30Speaker 02

  I love, I love just posting whatever the fuck I want, whether it's like, I would literally post about like this guy. Like, I have been posting like just random shit and not thinking about anything. And then I just don't check my comments. I like literally post it and then I get off the app and I'm like, okay, I'm done. Cause I like, I like posting. I love posting.

• 1:25:50Speaker 01

  Me too, it's my favorite thing. Well, it's that instant serotonin.

• 1:25:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, exactly.

• 1:25:54Speaker 01

  That you get, like, it's like that instant gratification of like, like, like, like, like.

• 1:25:58Speaker 02

  And you know what? Like, I think I have so many thoughts in my mind that I just need an outlet and I put them on social media. Like, I just do it, like, either on my private account or like, on like my main. But like, I just don't think anything's that fucking deep. Or anything's that serious. Like, I just post it because I think I like it and I want to be funny. So I post it. I don't think anything's that deep, especially like when it's on your page. Like, I'm not gonna let you guys fucking ruin something on my phone.

• 1:26:26Speaker 01

  Well, the basis of like social media back in its like early, early 2010s, like, was the fact that it was like this unfiltered.

• 1:26:36Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:26:37Speaker 01

  Stream of like, this like virtual world. So once it becomes curated, then it's not what social media's initial intent was.

• 1:26:48Speaker 03

  Exactly.

• 1:26:50Speaker 02

  And we're already so curated.

• 1:26:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, everything's so curated.

• 1:26:53Speaker 03

  Like, it's cool to just be you.

• 1:26:55Speaker 01

  Exactly. Be you.

• 1:26:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:26:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, don't look. Just post it and get off. And also, if it makes you feel better, like, other people feel the same exact way, including me, so.

• 1:27:07Speaker 01

  And including me.

• 1:27:08Speaker 02

  Yeah. Including Cat's Eye.

• 1:27:11Speaker 01

  I've been really annoyed lately when people tell me I'm really nice. Growing up, I always thought it was a compliment and I wanted to be known that way. But recently, as I navigate the back half of my twenties, I'm realizing I just might be coming across as a pushover. And I have no backbone.

• 1:27:24Speaker 03

  I understand.

• 1:27:25Speaker 01

  I will always be a good friend and person to the people I love, but I don't wanna be a doormat. What's your advice to change my narrative?

• 1:27:31Speaker 03

  Oh my god. Well, I understand because I used to be, I used to really hate that. And I think that I was a little bit too nice. Isn't that true? Like, I was a little bit too nice. And like, it's not, that's not really quite in my nature. Like, I'm very much like, uh, this is what it is. And like, I'm gonna tell you how it is. But then I think,

• 1:27:56Speaker 03

  post Cat's Eye and post like, people having opinions on us. I feel like I was like, okay, I have to be like really extra nice. And like, I can't really say what I think anymore, cause it will get taken the wrong way and I don't want that. And like, I hated being seen as like too nice because I was like, are people seeing this as my weakness? Like, people are gonna see this like and take advantage of that. But that is honestly not, it's just not true. Like kindness and being nice to people is like, it's a superpower. It's like the most beautiful, beautiful thing. I think as long as you're like aware and like as long as you, like, just don't be a pushover.

• 1:28:36Speaker 01

  Right, it's like kindness with boundaries.

• 1:28:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, kindness with boundaries. Like, that's also part of being kind. It's like you have to also be kind to yourself.

• 1:28:43Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:28:43Speaker 03

  Like, being really nice is like also taking care and being nice to yourself and knowing like when something is going too far. So I actually think it's like one of the most, or if not the most beautiful compliment. Cause it's like, being nice, it's like you make people feel welcomed, you're approachable, like, you have a nice aura. That means that you love yourself and like, you respect yourself. Like, there, there is nothing more beautiful than like, being kind.

• 1:29:13Speaker 02

  Being nice and being a pushover is two different things.

• 1:29:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, they're completely different.

• 1:29:17Speaker 01

  I couldn't agree more.

• 1:29:18Speaker 03

  And kindness is everything.

• 1:29:19Speaker 02

  When you, you have to be able to kind of have that selflessness and that boundary and that, and that respect for yourself. So that you can continue to be kind and you don't need to stop being kind, cause that's just what you need to, you can just be. But because people will recognize that respect you have for yourself, the boundaries can come naturally. Like, people will be like, okay, I'm not gonna mess with this person, you know? And that's just something you have to work on, like how you see yourself. Cause it's like when you have confidence in yourself and you respect yourself, like that rubs off on people. Like, people recognize that right away. And it just, then people will automatically kind of know how to approach you. And so it's more of like an internal thing you have to work on, but don't ever stop being kind. Don't ever stop being nice. It's not a bad thing at all.

• 1:30:01Speaker 03

  Now, I, I don't really feel like I come across, I mean, some people are crazy, but like, I don't really come across situations where I feel like people are like, taking advantage of my kindness.

• 1:30:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:15Speaker 03

  Because I feel like I, like, there, like, there will always be like a thing of like, okay, like, not too much right now. But like, I'll always be really kind and like, spread love. Cause it's just like, it takes so much energy to, to hold that back and to like stop being nice so that people like fear you and like, ugh, like, that's, just be nice.

• 1:30:37Speaker 01

  How do you guys like lift each other up when somebody isn't feeling like confident in the group or somebody isn't feeling like great that day? Like, what do you, how do you guys all lift each other up?

• 1:30:48Speaker 03

  Well, we begin with a hug.

• 1:30:50Speaker 02

  We begin with a hug. And we also know, we know each other so well that, and we, we know each other so well and we know that we know each other. So we feel, we naturally feel like what we say matters to one another. Because it's like, it's really only the people that truly know you, what they can say about your situation or what they can say to comfort you. Like, they just, you can trust it. Because they recognize your situation and all that. And so we're very big on just reminding each other. Cause that's, I think that's the root of a lot of it. It's when we don't feel confident, when we're feeling down in general, it's because we're forgetting certain things.

• 1:31:27Speaker 02

  And our role is to constantly remind this person. And the switch of perspective, like, that's the first thing we do. Cause that's the key to like everything. It really is perspective. That's what changes the game for everybody and how they live life. It's just perspective. Life is perspective. And we're always, if we're in a situation, for example, suddenly I'm not confident about my outfit and I feel like it's not me. But then I remember like, we're always in these situations. Yeah, recently, like Laura was like, if you don't mind me saying. No, I just felt that way. She felt that way recently in a situation where she felt like her outfit just wasn't her, but she looked beautiful. She was like, I know I look beautiful, but it's just not me. And I was like, Laura, you yourself are already so

• 1:32:10Speaker 02

  much of you. Like, you care. You're one of the people that like give yourself so much. And no matter what is put on you, you do look beautiful. It's not ugly. It's just made, it doesn't feel like you. But then you, everybody is saying you look amazing. Like, you're the type of person, you're such a beautiful artist that is so firmly themselves. Like, things like that. Like, that's how we talk to each other. We're constantly like.

• 1:32:30Speaker 03

  No, like, it really made me feel better. Like, like, we also, I think that's the beauty of being in a group as young girls going through this and like navigating attention and fame and like this industry in general. Like, I always have so much respect for the solo pop girls. And just the solo artists in general, because I'm like, especially when you're new and figuring this out, it can really fuck with your head. And like, it can really, really make you like, your whole perspective on who you are, on life. Like, you can so easily fall into a place of like, losing reality and losing yourself. Yeah, and we, we just had a dinner. May I talk about our dinner?

• 1:33:16Speaker 05

  Dinner.

• 1:33:17Speaker 03

  No. Well, let's get into the dinner. Because, because we had, we had our first, like, hangout or dinner together that we've had in a really long time. It was like the first time that we were like, okay, like outside of work, let's just go and like, sit and speak. And it just ended up with all of us like sobbing at the nice guy. Yeah. The nice guy. We were crying at the nice guy.

• 1:33:46Speaker 04

  And there was Frank Ocean too. And it just made me cry even more.

• 1:33:50Speaker 03

  But, but I think it was so beautiful because like,

• 1:33:55Speaker 03

  just speaking for myself, I like take your guys' advice and like, every perspective you share about, share to me like about my feelings and my situation, like, I take it so seriously. Yeah. And I like really take it to heart because like I trust you guys. And I like, trust that you're not just gonna like say something to say it.

• 1:34:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:16Speaker 03

  That's how we are with each other.

• 1:34:17Speaker 04

  There's no fakeness.

• 1:34:17Speaker 03

  There's no fakeness.

• 1:34:20Speaker 04

  We're real with each other.

• 1:34:21Speaker 03

  And, and there's, there's also like, this beautiful sense of like true support. Like I think we really, I really believe and know that like, we want each other to win. And so, it's just like a really safe, space and it could easily not be. Yeah. Do you know what I mean? Like I've heard about so many groups and like, situations where they didn't feel that way and it's like a constant, competition, but with us, it's like never been like that. I think it's always been like, I want the best for you and I want the best for me.

• 1:34:56Speaker 01

  You and I win.

• 1:34:56Speaker 03

  If you and I win and like vice versa. And so, I just like, take what you guys say so deeply and I really internalize it and like, it always helps. It always helps. Like we, we just, I think we're the best people to give advice to each other because we, we understand each other's lives like better than anyone else. Yeah, I agree.

• 1:35:19Speaker 01

  I went to a concert with two of my friends and before the concert started, one of them said she was just gonna go say hi to another one of her friends that was also there. Said she would be right back. We didn't see her again for the rest of the night.

• 1:35:29Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:35:30Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:35:31Speaker 03

  Uh-uh.

• 1:35:32Speaker 04

  Oh no, I actually have a take on this.

• 1:35:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, tell me.

• 1:35:35Speaker 04

  Okay, so I actually used to be that girl and I, I could, and I can, I can be aware of it. Like I would go to a party with a bunch of friends.

• 1:35:41Speaker 03

  Why would you do that?

• 1:35:42Speaker 04

  I used to go to a party with a bunch of friends and then I would disappear and never see you.

• 1:35:46Speaker 01

  I've also done that.

• 1:35:47Speaker 04

  And like, I would leave the party with different people. And then it only, it took like, a couple, a few times I did that for like my friends to like confront me and be like, hey, like I hate, like I hate when you do this. Like, I don't wanna go out and party with you and I don't wanna do this with you if you're just gonna leave. And honestly, that really helped me. Like, just talk to them. Just talk. Because I wasn't aware. I didn't think that was, it was that deep. Until like someone told me their feelings about it.

• 1:36:12Speaker 03

  Oh, you didn't know.

• 1:36:13Speaker 04

  I didn't know. Because I would go to these parties and be like, oh my god, like all my friends are here, like, it's fine, like we're having a blast, like I'm gonna Uber home with these people now.

• 1:36:21Speaker 01

  Right, but to some other people it's deeper.

• 1:36:24Speaker 04

  It's so deep. So I'm like, okay, like I didn't realize that. I think I was just like unaware. So then once they said that, I was like, okay. And I actually have been working on it.

• 1:36:32Speaker 01

  Good. I've, I've, I've, I'm the same way. I know a lot of people that are the same way. Yeah, I used to be the same way. I used to leave and then you're like, one time I did it and I texted my friend, oh my god, I can't believe I just left without you. I'm so sorry.

• 1:36:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. I would be so upset.

• 1:36:44Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:36:47Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:36:49Speaker 03

  I would like call them and like, and like, hey, like, don't do that anymore.

• 1:36:58Speaker 01

  Are you good at, are you good at like, uh, telling someone when they've upset you?

• 1:37:03Speaker 05

  Like are you confrontational?

• 1:37:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, you actually are.

• 1:37:06Speaker 05

  Yeah, she's pretty good at it.

• 1:37:07Speaker 04

  I always say this, every time somebody asks like, what do people not really know about Yuncha or like all that stuff? Like she's a lot more mature than people I think know. Like she is the youngest of the group, but she is so like emotionally intelligent. She's so mature. Especially with like going through this. Like she literally joined this when she was like four, 15. Like she started like, so like she, like went to a country, she didn't know how to speak English like fully. Like she was, uh, just learning English and she was alone. Her family's not here, from Korea, with a different culture, especially in LA, like come on.

• 1:37:39Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:37:39Speaker 04

  And with our schedule, with a bunch of girls who are also from different countries. So she's not only dealing with American culture, she's dealing with all our cultures. Like, can you imagine? So like, but she's like so mature. So like she does like come up to us. Sometimes she sees a situation and then we react differently. She reacts the way that like the adults do. Like she's like, she's grown.

• 1:37:57Speaker 01

  Okay, you guys.

• 1:37:58Speaker 04

  She's grown.

• 1:37:59Speaker 01

  What did we learn today?

• 1:38:00Speaker 03

  So many things. We learned a lot about each other.

• 1:38:02Speaker 04

  You learned about us.

• 1:38:03Speaker 01

  You know what I learned is that you guys are real, you're real sisters.

• 1:38:07Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:38:07Speaker 01

  You're real sisters. You're a real family.

• 1:38:09Speaker 05

  Bitches.

• 1:38:10Speaker 01

  You're, and I am leaving this feeling like so empowered and feeling like,

• 1:38:16Speaker 03

  Oh, me too.

• 1:38:18Speaker 01

  Good. Is that what, okay, I'm so glad.

• 1:38:20Speaker 03

  I feel so good.

• 1:38:22Speaker 01

  I was so anxious to talk to like five people at once, but you guys like, make every space you're in so comfortable, so welcoming, so warm.

• 1:38:30Speaker 03

  You too. You too.

• 1:38:33Speaker 01

  Oh, thank you.

• 1:38:35Speaker 03

  You made me feel, you made me feel so safe.

• 1:38:38Speaker 01

  You make me feel safe.

• 1:38:40Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:38:41Speaker 01

  I am a buzzler.

• 1:38:43Speaker 03

  You have to let me do it. Like one day I'll text you.

• 1:38:46Speaker 01

  If I buzz my hair, it's,

• 1:38:46Speaker 04

  And can I bleach it?

• 1:38:47Speaker 01

  Yes. You're buzz, you're buzzing, you're pretty shit.

• 1:38:52Speaker 03

  Yeah, Yuncha does the piercing.

• 1:38:54Speaker 01

  Can you do piercings?

• 1:38:56Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:38:58Speaker 04

  We can learn. We can figure it out.

• 1:39:01Speaker 01

  Katzy.

• 1:39:02Speaker 03

  I love you. We love you.

• 1:39:04Speaker 01

  I love you.

• 1:39:05Speaker 03

  Jake Shane, I'm Jake Shane therapist. I love you.

• 1:39:08Speaker 01

  Thank you for coming on the show.

• 1:39:10Speaker 03

  Thanks for coming.

• 1:39:12Speaker 01

  And the new single Animal is out.

• 1:39:15Speaker 03

  Now.

• 1:39:16Speaker 01

  Now, now, now.