Session 120: Kylie Jenner

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  You're so major.

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  This is about to be the last day of my life.

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  Yeah, I mean, same.

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  Pussies? The king is here. King. I'm so excited.

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  I'm so happy to be here.

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  First off, cheers.

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  Cheers. I'm already having the best time.

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  I know. We were really just hanging in the back. Eyes?

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  Oh, sorry. Cheers.

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  We're having red wine. It's like 1:00 PM.

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  On a Friday.

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  And we're having the best time.

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  We're having the best time. I'm so, I can't believe you're here. I couldn't sleep last night.

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  I can't believe I'm here either.

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  I know.

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  Not because I don't want to be here. I'd die for you. But like podcasts are just, it's a very new thing for me.

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  I know. But you're always on.

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  I'm gonna keep saying that. Every podcast I go on, I'm gonna be like, this is so new.

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  It feels special because this is one of the first.

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  Yeah.

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  This and the Cuddy one.

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  Yes.

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  When you said you've seen my show, I thought you were kidding.

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  Really?

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  Yeah.

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  We met, that's when we met.

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  Well, we met, okay, you don't remember this.

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  Tell me everything.

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  But you were, it was at the Charlie XCX show at Coachella.

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  Okay.

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  And you walked by me and I was just like, huh! And that was our first meeting.

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  I love that. That was a good show.

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  That was a great show.

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  That was a day before I shot the movie with her.

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  You shot it the day after Coachella?

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  Yes. Isn't that crazy?

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  Where did she shoot it? In the desert?

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  We shot it at my house. In Palm Springs.

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  Right.

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  And I was, I was like, super crazy about it not looking like my house, because I'm like, this is gonna take people out of it.

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  Right.

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  But you know, they were in Abita?

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  Uh huh. Ypita.

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  Ypita. Um, and, so yeah, we just did it in a hallway at my house the next day.

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  What was it like being an actress?

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  It was amazing.

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  Really?

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  Yes.

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  Did you love it?

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  I did.

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  Do you want to do more?

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  Yes.

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  You should.

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  Thank you. A few things have come my way that I said no to that honestly, I kind of regret. But it's okay, because something else will happen.

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  It, what's, did you say no for any particular reason?

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  I feel like, I don't know if anyone can relate to this, I didn't think it was right. But I also didn't have enough time to decide.

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  It was like, decide now?

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  Decide now, and I get in my head about it, and then I end up saying no out of fear.

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  Are you an anxious person?

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  Ah, I don't know. I wish Ariel was in the room, because I feel like he's my second brain.

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  Ariel, is she anxious?

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  About life?

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  No, you don't seem anxious. You don't read anxious.

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  Okay.

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  At all.

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  Okay.

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  And I'm like shaking. Have you, did you see when I was drinking the wine?

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  No. Let's breathe.

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  I honestly feel better.

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  We needed that.

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  We needed that. We needed that. Now tell me about Zelda.

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  This is a safe space. We were talking about Zelda earlier, because Jake was like, I love your Sims bit.

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  Yeah.

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  But you guys, I went on vacation recently, and I got, I bought a Switch for the first time.

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  Okay. I almost bought one, I almost bought one yesterday. You're about to convince me.

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  I bought a Switch. I don't even really this type of girl. Like, I play Sims on my computer. It never really went, my gaming never really went further than that. I loved Halo. Like, I beat the first Halo game.

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  Call of Duty?

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  No, Halo.

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  Is that?

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  Completely different. To completely different Halo.

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  What is Halo?

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  Halo's another, another like, it's in the future, but it's another like.

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  Okay, okay. So that was like, okay, that was your thing.

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  That was my thing with, with Kendall. And then what else did I play? I mean, back GameCube.

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  Oh, I was a, I was a Game Boy guy.

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  Yeah, GameCube, um, what were we playing on there? Bomberman on GameCube? The best. I bought a Switch and basically looked up, like, what are the most popular games on Switch? And I get, and Zelda has like, Zelda's up there. Have you played Zelda?

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  Oh, yeah.

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  Zelda is up there.

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  Zelda's like one of the best games ever.

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  What is, what's the premise?

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  Rated. Um, well, you are Link.

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  Okay.

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  You are a hundred years ago. Oh, my God, I'm gonna sound like such a nerd. A hundred years before you, you're, you're playing the game. A hundred years prior, there was like a big war happened out with all the, um, with all the fantastic beasts. What are the beasts called?

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  I, I remember the main guy. It's like Gandor or something.

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  Gandor.

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  But all the fantastic, not the fantastic beasts. Hold on. I need to get this right and you need to get it.

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  This is perfect.

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  Wait, the beasts in Zelda. I hate that I don't know their names. The divine.

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  The divine beasts, the divine beasts. I'm so sorry to all the Zelda fans out there. I'm still kind of new. I've already, um, I've already kind of conquered one of the divine beasts. I'm on to my second beast. But anyway, um, so, you know, a hundred years prior, before you started playing the game, there was this big war. The world is like, you know.

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  Shambles.

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  Shambles, like, everything is fucked.

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  Yeah.

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  And then you get in there and you're Link and you're trying to save the world.

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  Ooh, I like this.

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  Save the world and Princess Zelda, even though it's like a hundred years later, she's still like thriving in the castle. You wanna get to Princess Zelda. Were they in love? I don't know. There's a bunch of flashbacks. It's the most intricate. You could be on that game like I've, I've played.

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  Wait, so.

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  For days and hours.

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  And you, and there's like missions to complete?

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  Basically, you're trying to get to Princess Zelda in the castle.

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  To save her?

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  To save her and save the world.

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  From the divine.

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  Well, the divine beasts were, um,

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  They were really on our side.

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  But then they got taken over by.

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  Gandor.

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  Gandor.

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  Uh huh.

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  So you have to enter the divine beast and like snap them out of it, snap them out of Gandor.

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  Okay, I think I need, I think I'm gonna get a switch.

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  So anyway, that was a lot, but you need to get a switch and you need to play Zelda.

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  Wait, I'm gonna, I'm literally gonna post my one right after this.

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  Right now.

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  Yeah, I'm gonna.

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  Breath of the Wild.

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  Breath, Zelda Breath of the Wild.

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  Yeah, that's the first one.

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  Can we play, like, can we connect? Oh.

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  I know.

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  Cause you can do that on Pokemon.

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  I know, and Mario Kart, no.

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  Yes, you can, you can, you can play Mario, I think you can do wifi.

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  Okay.

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  Are you still on Tumblr?

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  No.

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  No.

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  I know, I'm sorry.

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  Wait, really?

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  I'm sorry, I'm not, I know, it was the best place, I'm on Pinterest, Pinterest gives me.

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  Pinterest is Tumblr grown up.

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  Pinterest gives me Tumblr, it does.

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  And do you have like mood boards that you like?

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  Yes, I do it all day.

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  Are they public?

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  Instead of like opening up my Instagram, I, I open up Pinterest.

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  Oh, really?

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  Yes.

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  And you just scroll?

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  And I scroll, inspiration, inspiration, inspiration, and it's like curated to me and the things that I like, so I'm like, ooh, that would be cool for a cosmetic shoot coming up, put it in the da da da. And then I have like a 2026 like outfit vibes.

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  Are you going to the mat?

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  I am.

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  What are you wearing?

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  I'm wearing scaffarelli.

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  Ah!

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  Should I just like show you a picture instead of explaining it to get your reaction?

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  I'm gagged.

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  Okay. I don't have the final dress, but I'll show you the sketch.

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  Shut up.

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  This is not me.

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  Shut up.

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  Another piece.

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  No, you're lying.

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  Looks like I'm.

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  Louise, you have to come see this.

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  I, I'm already like speechless. And then, and then it's like falling off, you know what I mean? It's gonna look different than that because you know, the sketches are like.

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  It's like, it's real art, you're wearing art.

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  So I'm wearing art and we're celebrating.

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  Art.

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  Art.

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  Well, Kylie, what are you therapist about today?

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  What am I therapist about? Hmm, I haven't heard this before. Um, I'm therapist about.

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  I'm therapist about getting over this cold.

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  I knew you were gonna say that.

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  We're getting to know each other.

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  Yeah, we are. I knew you were gonna say that.

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  I'm really therapist about this fucking cold. I just, it's been 10 days and I don't know if you guys feel like as you get older, it's harder to like kick something in the butt.

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  I just threw my back out for the first time.

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  Stop.

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  Yes.

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  I have really bad back issues.

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  I was, I was like, I'm gonna tell her that I threw my back out, but I guess, I feel like she's never thrown her back out.

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  I have had chronic back pain for like three and a half years. It's just starting to get better. But I, my son, my last pregnancy, it like really took me out.

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  Oh, really? That, it was, was it dur, it was during it?

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  It was like 12 weeks into the pregnancy, I just woke up one day and I'm like, ooh, I can't really walk. And I had like crazy sciatica pain and crazy lower back pain. So I'm just thinking, and I was in the best shape of my life before that pregnancy. So I really had high expectations. I really wanted to like work out. I gained 60 pounds with my daughter. I was 200 pounds when I went in to give birth to my daughter. Oh, I was like 210 with my son. All of that when I gained like 65 pounds with my son.

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  What, what were you like?

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  I was huge.

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  What were you craving?

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  Everything. I ate everything. I ate a pint of ice cream every night.

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  You're lying.

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  No, I just dove right in.

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  What flavor?

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  Rainbow sherbet.

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  Yeah, yum.

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  Yeah. I ate lots of ice cream, just lots of carbs, bagels in the beginning. My nausea was horrible with my son, so if I didn't eat, it'd be really bad.

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  Which pregnancy was easier?

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  The first one. That was a breeze.

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  God, I, it's so funny you talking, well, it's not funny, but you talking about this, it's like I remember everything happening in real time. Like I remember when, was it the Dear Stormy video?

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  Yeah, to our daughter.

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  Stopped the world, stopped the world. I was in high school, we all stopped what we were doing to watch the video.

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  Oh my God. I remember seeing, I didn't realize it was gonna be like that. All the reaction videos to people watching it and like gathering in the living room, like this is crazy.

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  Because you, you didn't leave your house for a while, if I remember. And there was like helicopters circling above your house to try to get pop shots of you.

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  And they would take pictures of anything and just write a story like, oh, it's a crib. I'm like, that's a couch.

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  So that was crazy. I really didn't leave the house. I felt like at the time, you know, reflecting back to it, I felt like I was protecting myself.

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  And I was in a way, but I

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  like, right when I posted that video, I sobbed for like, three hours. Cause it felt like so much weight on my shoulders and, and just a big thing that I was like hiding from the world. And I was, you know, worried about everyone's reactions and, and it was just so emotional. And I'm like, huh, maybe next time I wouldn't do that.

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  Right.

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  Yeah.

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  And did it feel good not hiding it the second time?

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  Yeah. But then I couldn't leave my bed anyway, cause I was like in so much back pain and sciatica pain. I was like, and lots of things were happening with my vagina. I was three centimeters dilated for like, a month and a half, two months. Like the baby was like falling out.

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  And my doctor's like, you have to stay in bed.

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  How, what is it like seeing your kids grow up?

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  It's the best. I feel like, I'll let you talk.

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  No, no, but I had nothing to say.

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  Let's take a wine break.

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  Yeah. Eyes. I'm so nervous.

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  Oh, don't be nervous.

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  I know. You're the Mecca.

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  What? I just wanna kiss you.

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  Oh, I wanna kiss you.

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  I'm having the best time.

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  I know, cause you would tell me.

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  And I think you're the cutest person on the whole planet.

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  I love you.

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  I really do.

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  Best day of my life.

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  And your last thirst trap?

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  You saw?

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  I fucking saw that shit.

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  You saw that shit?

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  It was like on my for you page or something.

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  You're lying.

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  I'm not lying. I opened Instagram and it was you.

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  What'd you think?

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  I thought it was so sexy.

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  I've been really in the gym.

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  I'm so proud of you. Doesn't it feel so good?

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  It and it just, I wanna show everyone.

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  Does any, don't you feel so, I love being in the gym.

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  It's, I love being in the gym. I love sweating.

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  Mm hmm.

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  And then I love feeling like, well, the best is when you wake up morning skinny. And then you go to the gym still on morning skinny and then you work out and then you like tone morning skinny.

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  The best.

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  That one, I had a tan.

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  Do you stay, do you have a real tan?

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  No, so that was fake tan.

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  There's nothing that feels better than a spray tan.

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  Nothing.

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  A fresh spray tan.

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  Like, it's, it's God's gift to this green earth. You feel like fitter, you feel hotter.

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  Totally.

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  You just feel sexy, like your face has this like subtle glow to you.

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  Sometimes I think I'm depressed and then I get a spray tan and I'm like, I was just pale.

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  Yeah.

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  You know?

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  What does a bad day look like for you?

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  A bad day? I don't have any bad days. No. Of course I have bad days.

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  I mean, it depends what's happening.

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  Right.

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  You know, I've had really, I've had bad days.

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  Yeah.

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  What the fuck is happening?

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  I don't know.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  We need a sip of wine.

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  I've never been this nervous or silent on a podcast ever. What's wrong with me today?

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  You're doing great, just like.

• 15:07Speaker 01

  You're doing great. You don't seem nervous at all.

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  You're lying.

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  I'm not lying.

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  Okay. Louise and I were talking.

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  How, when you curated an Instagram dump, how do you pick your song?

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  Thank you for asking. The songs are the hardest for me.

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  Mm hmm. Every time.

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  The songs are so hard. I know a few people who are really good at it. I think they're keep, I think they're keeping it in their notes or something.

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  You think?

• 15:35Speaker 01

  I think they're like prepared for this shit, because there's no way you can be under pressure. You're about to post this dump you've been working on for hours and you could just pick a perfect song. They have to be, we have to do better.

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  Do you work on it for hours?

• 15:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

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  They, it really doesn't read that way. That's like your whole, like, like, that, like, is your whole vibe to me. Like, it's just like, you just do it and it happens.

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  I love that. Is there like, do you have any notes?

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  Note for your dumps?

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  Yeah, for my dumps or for my posts, like, do you wish that?

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  No, I would only say more. I just want more, like every time.

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  You want more?

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  Like your 2016 post, I was sat.

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  I know, fuck, I don't know who that was anymore.

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  Yes, you, you don't know.

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  It's hard for me to, maybe it's like, I just, I really work a lot more.

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  Than you did when you were.

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  Than I did then.

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  Yeah.

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  Like every day. I feel like all I do is just like, I'm working or I'm at the office and then I'm with my children and then I'm working on myself and then I'm, you know, in a relationship and then I'm having my friends and then I.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  Right.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  So it's like I not, like, back then, I felt like I had more free time to just like play.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  What, what was it like looking back at that era?

• 16:44Speaker 01

  It was amazing.

• 16:47Speaker 02

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  I just got my first Birkin and I thought of you.

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  What color?

• 18:22Speaker 02

  Chocolate brown.

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  Gorgeous.

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  I got it in Japan at Amore.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 18:26Speaker 02

  The, it's a shoulder, shoulder strap Birkin.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  Like the JPG one?

• 18:32Speaker 02

  I think so. I.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Or Kelly.

• 18:34Speaker 02

  No, it's like a.

• 18:35Speaker 01

  Do you have a picture? Let's see the picture.

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  It's like.

• 18:40Speaker 01

  It's a camel. No, it's chocolate.

• 18:41Speaker 02

  It's chocolate brown and it's, okay.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  What is it? Silver hardware?

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Silver hardware.

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  Gorgeous.

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  Do you have a favorite Birkin?

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Um, the one that I wore today, I die for. The matte black croc with the silver that I wear like every day.

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  Uh huh.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  And then the Himalayan diamonds is also like.

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  Are you sourcing these or are you buying these direct from the store?

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  Most of them direct from the store. Older ones that I have, I have sourced them, but now I just, if I'm gonna buy it, I just. That's gorgeous. Wait.

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  And I beat it up.

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  I'm obsessed with this. It's like long.

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  It's long. It's very long.

• 19:23Speaker 01

  This is gorgeous. Wow. This is really cool. And it, and it's like, like I want this bag.

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  Shoot, I'll bring it, I'll bring it down. I'll show you.

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  We need to see it in person. This is everything. And it, it's like a work bag.

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  I bring it, I brought it to work today.

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  It's a travel bag.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  I bring it on the plane. I feel so cunt bringing it with the, walking through the airport.

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  Fucking cunt.

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  Throwing it on the thingy like.

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  That's everything.

• 19:47Speaker 02

  When did you start your bag collection?

• 19:49Speaker 01

  I got my first bag from my mommy. I think for like my 18th birthday? Most of my new bags now are from my mom. It's like our, it's our love language.

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  Sharing bags back and forth.

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  Birkin. Birthday? Birkin.

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  And we just back and forth, back and forth. Isn't that beautiful?

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  Well, when I spoke to her at Vandy Fair, she did say you were her favorite kid right now.

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  We have a beautiful relationship.

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  What, what was it like growing up? Like, do you remember before cameras?

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  I do, yes. But not a lot of memories.

• 20:31Speaker 02

  Really?

• 20:31Speaker 01

  I was nine. Years old.

• 20:34Speaker 02

  It was just like, they were there one day?

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  And just, they were there one day in the house. And everyone made it seem really normal. So it felt pretty natural. I will say.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  Do you have a favorite memory from filming, like, the earlier seasons?

• 20:48Speaker 01

  The earlier seasons were the best. And so many memories. I felt like it really kind of brought us all together. It still does today. And like, we're all hanging out this Sunday. We were doing like a movie night at my mom's house. No cameras. But other than that, our, like, our schedules and our lives and our kids and everything, it gets to be a lot. That filming really brings us and keeps us together. Because we all were working together.

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  It's like family dinner. It's like

• 21:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Everyone come and film.

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  Yeah, so it's been a blessing and and yeah. So many fun memories. The beginning was the best.

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  Everything.

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  Everything.

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  I watch it when I'm sad.

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  Me too.

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  It's the best. I mean, you remember The Vine. My family's in there.

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  Oh, yeah, yeah.

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  You were Vine Queen.

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  Vine was the best.

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  I miss it every day.

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  Me too. I can't believe it's just, like, deleted.

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  Do you remember any of your vines?

• 21:48Speaker 01

  Of course.

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  Do you remember the shirt you wore?

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  Which one?

• 21:51Speaker 02

  It was, there was holes in it. It was like off the shoulder.

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  The gray one.

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  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Do you still have?

• 21:56Speaker 01

  No.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  I know. That would have been so special to bring to you.

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  I know. And Keek?

• 22:03Speaker 01

  Keek, of course.

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  Keek was, Keek was, what was Keek?

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  So Keek was actually a deal that came to us after I think, yes, I know. You heard it here first. I was getting

• 22:14Speaker 02

  What?

• 22:15Speaker 01

  I was getting paid.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  You were getting paid to do Keek?

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  You did a fucking stand up job, let me tell you.

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  Thank you.

• 22:23Speaker 02

  Cause everyone started using.

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  And I like had, yes, and I had to geek.

• 22:27Speaker 02

  You've low key lived so many lives.

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  I have now that I'm honestly sitting here talking to you. I do feel that way.

• 22:33Speaker 02

  You used to like, when you were on the show, you were like telling, you were like, we used to shut down malls.

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  Yes.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  You used to shut the mall down.

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  Shut the mall down.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  You wrote books.

• 22:44Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  Absolutely. The malls were shut down. Kendall, I talk about that often. Cause when you're in it and you're so young, you don't even realize like what's happening.

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  Right.

• 22:56Speaker 01

  And then when you are an adult and you look back to it, you're like, oh my God, we were children and we had no idea. Like, this was how crazy this was.

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  Right. It was just life. It was like you were just working.

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  Yes, we were just working and, and it just, it was wild.

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  And do you, is there like one job you remember that you're like, what the fuck was that?

• 23:19Speaker 01

  Like the appearances or?

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Like appearances or anything?

• 23:23Speaker 01

  Oh my God, for sure. There's definitely, there's definitely memories that Kendall and I will send to each other all the time. Like, wait, what? We did this? There's like photos that we find that we're like, this was crazy. But I think I can think of at the top of my head.

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  There were a few mall appearances, like going to Australia.

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  Okay.

• 23:45Speaker 01

  Was really crazy. Like I've never seen more people, fans in my whole life.

• 23:50Speaker 02

  But what were you there for? Were you promoting the book?

• 23:53Speaker 01

  We were there for Paxon, I think.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Oh, how could I forget?

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  How could I forget the Paxon collab?

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  Paxon collab. We were there for Paxon.

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  For some reason Paxon reminds me of the Malibu Country Mart, even though I don't think there was one there.

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  Yeah.

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  But I remember your Malibu Country Mart era.

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  Loved Malibu Country Mart. Oh my God, I was just looking at photos because I'm in a girls chat right now and like I have to show you these photos. And they all want to plan a Brandy trip. Like they're like, we have to go after hours to Brandy.

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  I mean.

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  Like Haley's like where it all started. And I'm like, stop babe. We have the same shirt.

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  Shut the fuck up.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  And we're just all sending photos like hello Brandy.

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  That shirt.

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  This shirt.

• 24:38Speaker 02

  That shirt.

• 24:39Speaker 01

  I go, if we don't come out of here with stripes.

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  You're you did it wrong.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm like, I'm definitely joining you guys.

• 24:44Speaker 02

  The Mr. The Malibu Country Mart's changed so much though over the years. You can't. My God.

• 24:52Speaker 01

  Oh shit, the Tims like what?

• 24:56Speaker 02

  The Tims.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  The Tims.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  When did you start using Tumblr?

• 25:01Speaker 01

  Tumblr was, um, I don't remember.

• 25:05Speaker 02

  And do you remember your URL?

• 25:07Speaker 01

  Um, California class.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  California class.

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  I have no idea.

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  I vividly remember the episode where Tim was so jealous of your Tumblr.

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  I always like, you know.

• 25:25Speaker 01

  They've they come around. Like I was on Snapchat and they were like, what is Snapchat? And then they and then like, you know.

• 25:31Speaker 02

  Is that where King Kylie started? It was on a Snapchat username?

• 25:36Speaker 01

  King Kylie started because I

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  saw someone. I saw someone's call me that.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  And you were just like, yeah.

• 25:50Speaker 01

  Like that's King Kylie. Like I heard it like in an interview, like someone talking about it. I don't even remember where at this point. And I was like, King Kylie.

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  I die for that.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:03Speaker 01

  And then I just ran with it. I don't even remember how that happened.

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  I don't remember life before.

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  Cute.

• 26:09Speaker 02

  Oh, I know. That was when Lord came. That's when everyone still lived here. Did you ever have a roommate?

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

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  My first house, Stoss lived with me and Jordan.

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  Was that fun?

• 26:23Speaker 01

  It was a lot of fun. I needed that at that time.

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  Yeah.

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  I don't think I could have. We also were so attached before that. That. It would have just felt unnatural too.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  How did you guys all meet? School?

• 26:38Speaker 01

  I met Stoss s- s- super early days. She. Was like Stoss times a hundred.

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  And in Calabasas, the only thing to really do is go to the Commons on Friday. Do you know where the Commons is?

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  Yeah.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  It's like an outdoor mall.

• 26:57Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it's where-

• 26:58Speaker 01

  Movie theater, pick up sticks. So then. She came to the Commons and she was wearing like, she had a one broken leg. And she was like hopping on a broken leg. The other leg was like a ugg. She was wearing the shortest shorts you've ever seen in your whole life. I was like, oh my god, I could never go out like that.

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  Uh huh.

• 27:16Speaker 01

  I saw her at the thing and I was like, and the personality and this and like, I'm like, she's like me.

• 27:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  She's like a different version of me. And she was just crazy and I thought, I thought her craziness was like amazing. And then I saw her again through a mutual friend. And I think she thought my craziness was amazing because I showed up and I was running around the house and I came dressed in like a costume and I was just Kylie and then we had a sleepover that night and literally. She moved in. We never, like for four years.

• 27:47Speaker 02

  That's beautiful.

• 27:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  And then Misfits started.

• 27:49Speaker 01

  And then Misfits started.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  Do you ever reminisce on those?

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Of course, those, that's what was my childhood.

• 27:55Speaker 02

  Did you ever get in trouble with your parents via something they found out that you did in the press?

• 28:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  But I never was really like that crazy. I think I was just very free spirited and very like funny and very. I still am that way, but I was never like doing hard drugs or like. So yeah, but.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  Were your parents like chill, like with like you drinking? Like, were they like a cool mop, cool parents or like what?

• 28:25Speaker 01

  I was afraid of my parents. I definitely respected them. I wouldn't say they were super lenient, but they. They gave me the space and together I was their 10th child.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  Right.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  So I think there was, and they had me really late, like my mom had me at 42 almost. Um, and my dad was a bit older, so I think they were just like, my mom was in work mode. And yeah, they gave me the space. I don't think, I think like we were the last generation to really like, grow up like that because we didn't have a cellphone. Our parents didn't know where we were all day.

• 29:06Speaker 02

  You are the last generation to do that. Now it's like, can you imagine sending Stormy off?

• 29:10Speaker 01

  No.

• 29:12Speaker 02

  The fact that she can like, make cohesive sentences now.

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  I know.

• 29:16Speaker 02

  Is really crazy.

• 29:17Speaker 01

  I've entered a different like stage of motherhood.

• 29:21Speaker 02

  What stage are you in?

• 29:23Speaker 01

  I'm in, I have an eight-year-old stage.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Eight?

• 29:26Speaker 01

  She's eight years old. She's my age when we started keeping up with the Kardashians, almost.

• 29:33Speaker 02

  Why does that make me feel old?

• 29:34Speaker 01

  I know.

• 29:36Speaker 02

  What?

• 29:37Speaker 01

  I remember when I had her and I used to be like, I'm gonna be 28 with an eight-year-old.

• 29:41Speaker 02

  You were 20 when you had Stormy?

• 29:42Speaker 01

  I was 19 when I got pregnant.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Were you like, can I ask, were you like freaking out?

• 29:53Speaker 01

  I was freaking out.

• 29:57Speaker 01

  I was freaking out. I was really scared to tell my parents.

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  And how did that go?

• 30:03Speaker 01

  And it was, I was really scared, but I knew, I was really scared, but there was something just inside of me that knew that I wanted to do this.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  I had to make a decision for myself, like what do I really want? What can I handle? And even if I have to do this alone or however, like this is the choice that I'm gonna make and. And then I told my mom. Put on the wine, we're like crying.

• 30:32Speaker 02

  No, I'm, I was gonna say, I'm drunk.

• 30:36Speaker 01

  Now we're like crying.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  No one was like angry at me, no one. It was just, it was crazy, crazy times.

• 30:45Speaker 02

  Stormy ever asked, like, what do you do?

• 30:47Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  And does she like understand?

• 30:51Speaker 01

  She knows mommy makes makeup.

• 30:54Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  And she loves to go to Ulta.

• 30:56Speaker 02

  Really?

• 30:57Speaker 01

  She loves to go to Ulta. She loves to go to Ulta, shop for makeup and other products, and she likes to buy my things, and she likes my lip butter. She knows I make makeup. She knows I'm like always leaving for work.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  Right.

• 31:12Speaker 01

  I go to the office, I travel. So I explained to her, you know, why this is important, why I need to leave, and I try to keep her involved. I think it's important for her to know what her mom does and why I'm gone.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  A thousand percent.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 31:29Speaker 02

  Wow. And does, does she ever question cameras, or is she just like, that's life?

• 31:35Speaker 01

  She actually loves it, and I have to be the one to like set boundaries, because she want, we made a little TikTok last night, and she begged me to do it. And I could, sometimes we make TikToks and I'll just do it to, because she thinks it's fun, and then I will never post them. But the, the one that we made last night, I did post. But she loves to be on camera, like, did you see the paparazzi photos of us the other day going into the

• 32:01Speaker 02

  What were that?

• 32:01Speaker 01

  Restaurant, and she was smiling big. She like, when she sees a camera, she's like.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  She's you. She loves it.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  How, when's her birthday?

• 32:10Speaker 01

  She's February first.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  Oh, so she's in Aquarius, or, yeah, Aquarius, right?

• 32:16Speaker 01

  February first, Leo rising. I'm a Leo. My son is February 2nd.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  That's kind of crazy.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  I finished my glass.

• 32:28Speaker 01

  Okay, I'll finish it. Oh, no.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  You have a lot to go.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  Of course, you're drunk.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  I know.

• 32:34Speaker 02

  I am a lot less nervous. You're very disarming.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 32:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  I love that.

• 32:39Speaker 02

  And I've noticed that from the moment that I met you at that Charli XCX show. I was like, oh, she like makes you feel like you're her friend, even if she...

• 32:47Speaker 01

  I don't ever want to make people... I don't want to come off...

• 32:50Speaker 02

  You don't.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  ...intimidating.

• 32:51Speaker 02

  Well, you do, but you don't, if that makes sense. You're like the, the really, really pretty girl in high school who would make everyone feel special.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  It really is genuine. I don't want to make people feel...

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  Scared.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 33:05Speaker 02

  What are you watching on TV?

• 33:07Speaker 01

  I'm watching The Testaments.

• 33:11Speaker 02

  The Testaments?

• 33:13Speaker 01

  It's called The Testaments, right? The Handmaid's...

• 33:16Speaker 02

  Oh, is it a spinoff?

• 33:18Speaker 01

  It, yes.

• 33:19Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 33:20Speaker 01

  I'm, I love The Handmaid's Tale.

• 33:22Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 33:23Speaker 01

  Die for The Handmaid's Tale.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Have you ever seen the show Industry?

• 33:26Speaker 01

  I haven't.

• 33:27Speaker 02

  You would love it. It's about stockbrokers in England.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:31Speaker 02

  And they all like do drugs and party.

• 33:33Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:34Speaker 02

  And like fuck each other. And it's like, am I describing it correctly?

• 33:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's really, it's kind of like Succession.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  I'm gonna write it down.

• 33:40Speaker 02

  You, it is the cuntiest show on television.

• 33:43Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 33:44Speaker 02

  The two main girls fight all the time.

• 33:46Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 33:47Speaker 02

  And like they fuck each other over and like... Are like low-key lovers.

• 33:53Speaker 04

  No.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  I'm always looking for a good new show.

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Industry is great.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Should we keep going?

• 33:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 33:58Speaker 01

  Wait, so I just watched the Caterpillar documentary. Have you seen that? About the guy, he changes his eye color.

• 34:03Speaker 02

  What?

• 34:04Speaker 01

  That's, that one's a little crazy. Um, I started the second season of Beef.

• 34:09Speaker 02

  I haven't even seen the first.

• 34:11Speaker 01

  I'm into it.

• 34:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  I'm really into it. I didn't finish the first season, but I, I'm into the second. What else?

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Movies?

• 34:19Speaker 01

  I just watched The Enemy again by Denis Villeneuve.

• 34:23Speaker 02

  Ooh, kind of cinephile? Do you have a letterbox?

• 34:28Speaker 01

  I do, but I like downloaded it because my friends made me and then I just never opened the app again.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  The Enemy is kind of crazy. You should watch it.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  What's it about?

• 34:39Speaker 01

  You just have to watch it.

• 34:40Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  It's about a guy who...

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Is watching movies and see someone in the movie that's looks exactly like him. And then it goes from there.

• 34:52Speaker 02

  How old is that?

• 34:53Speaker 03

  Twenty thirteen.

• 34:54Speaker 01

  Twenty thirteen.

• 34:55Speaker 02

  Did you ever go to IPEC?

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  You know what? Just closed.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  I know, I'm so upset.

• 35:00Speaker 02

  It's so sad.

• 35:01Speaker 01

  It's so sad. That was my theater because they always had. Like, we would always do little private things there all the time.

• 35:10Speaker 02

  Did you watch nine oh two one oh as a kid?

• 35:12Speaker 01

  I didn't.

• 35:13Speaker 02

  You would have loved nine oh two one oh.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  I'm trying to think of what I watched.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Gossip Girl?

• 35:18Speaker 01

  Yes, earlier seasons.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like Vampire Diaries?

• 35:23Speaker 01

  Of course. I just rewatched everything. I got to like season six and then I stopped.

• 35:28Speaker 02

  Were you team Damon or team Stefan?

• 35:34Speaker 01

  Oh, it goes back and forth.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  I was team Damon.

• 35:37Speaker 01

  At first I'm team Stefan and then I go hard left to team Damon.

• 35:41Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  Hard left to team Damon. Ah, and then once like, you know, Damon's in the picture for a while, I go back to Stefan.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're like, it's too much.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  I'm like, wait, but Stefan.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  That is the best show of all time.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  It is.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  It really, really is.

• 36:00Speaker 01

  It is. I stopped because I'm like, when it's over, it's over. I probably will take a few years off again.

• 36:06Speaker 02

  Did you watch? Have you ever seen Scandal?

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 36:09Speaker 02

  That's like my favorite show.

• 36:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, Scandal was amazing.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  Girls?

• 36:13Speaker 01

  No.

• 36:14Speaker 02

  I think you would like it.

• 36:16Speaker 01

  Kendall always talks about girls, but no.

• 36:19Speaker 02

  What's like the, like, what is your, like, prime differences between you two?

• 36:24Speaker 01

  There are many. There are many. She, well, first of all, she's like my favorite person on the planet. And I think as I get older.

• 36:35Speaker 01

  You just, do you have siblings?

• 36:37Speaker 02

  I have a younger brother. It's his birthday today. It's his birthday today. Happy birthday Luke.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  Happy birthday Luke. I think as you get older too, you like, she's just my best friend. She's my ride or die. We are like totally different people. It's really interesting. She's type A, I'm type B.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. How are you type B?

• 37:00Speaker 01

  I'm go with the flow.

• 37:02Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 37:02Speaker 01

  I don't really like make plans. My brain, like I'm a little bit messy, but I hate to say that.

• 37:11Speaker 02

  You're messy?

• 37:12Speaker 01

  Like, yeah, kinda honestly.

• 37:17Speaker 01

  But, but not in like a, I just am so disrespectful to my home and my like shits everywhere. I think like the way that my brain works is not like.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Like I'm a little like, I have piles of things, places, but I know where everything is.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:32Speaker 01

  But I come from a family of type As.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  They're really.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Everybody is crazy.

• 37:41Speaker 02

  Is your mom type A as well?

• 37:43Speaker 01

  Yes. Oh my God.

• 37:45Speaker 02

  Right.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  Crazy.

• 37:46Speaker 02

  The most.

• 37:47Speaker 01

  Very organized, very, and I'm just not, I don't have that in me.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, I.

• 37:52Speaker 01

  Or, or I'll cook.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  What do you like to cook?

• 37:56Speaker 01

  I like to cook tacos. I like to cook pastas.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Steak. I'm really into making steak these days.

• 38:06Speaker 02

  How do you take your steak?

• 38:07Speaker 01

  I like it like medium well.

• 38:10Speaker 02

  You're like my friends.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  I'm going into medium. I'm slowly going into medium, but I'm, but I'm medium.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  What is it about the well done that you like?

• 38:18Speaker 01

  I didn't say well done. I said medium well.

• 38:21Speaker 02

  And what do you like about it?

• 38:23Speaker 01

  A little bit of pink.

• 38:24Speaker 02

  Like, how much pink?

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Like a little bit of pink. But, like I said, I'm going into well, wait, medium.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  Medium.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  I'm going into.

• 38:34Speaker 02

  So you're going more pink?

• 38:35Speaker 01

  Sorry, yes, I'm going to medium.

• 38:37Speaker 02

  What is your kid's favorite thing that you make?

• 38:40Speaker 01

  They, I mean mommy potatoes.

• 38:44Speaker 02

  Mommy potatoes?

• 38:44Speaker 01

  They call it mommy potatoes, but it's my potatoes.

• 38:48Speaker 02

  That's really cute.

• 38:49Speaker 01

  And they have it for breakfast, lunch, dinner. They love the potatoes that I make. And pancakes. My son really likes my banana pancakes.

• 38:57Speaker 02

  Yum.

• 38:58Speaker 01

  So yummy.

• 38:59Speaker 02

  Yum.

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Likes my banana pancakes. I really like cooking, um,

• 39:07Speaker 01

  Thanksgiving food, honestly.

• 39:09Speaker 02

  Thanksgiving food has never done it for me.

• 39:11Speaker 01

  Oh, it's the best.

• 39:12Speaker 02

  Like, what, what Thanksgiving food do you like?

• 39:14Speaker 01

  Do you like candied yams?

• 39:16Speaker 02

  I don't mind them.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  Why? Why are you saying it like that?

• 39:19Speaker 02

  I don't mind, like, I don't like, like, the what cranberry shit that they have going on, like, if everything is-

• 39:26Speaker 01

  Let's go through the whole thing.

• 39:27Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Candied yams.

• 39:28Speaker 02

  Fine.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  But fine? I don't think you've had my candied yams. It's a potato.

• 39:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's fine.

• 39:35Speaker 01

  It's a fucking potato. Okay. Green bean casserole. What? Why not?

• 39:42Speaker 02

  I, I don't even know what, like, it scares me.

• 39:44Speaker 01

  Do you like ham?

• 39:45Speaker 02

  Love ham. Love ham.

• 39:47Speaker 01

  You know what? Do you like fried chicken?

• 39:49Speaker 02

  Love fried chicken.

• 39:51Speaker 01

  I think you should come over. I'm not kidding.

• 39:55Speaker 02

  Don't play with me right now.

• 39:56Speaker 01

  And I'll make you candied yams, green bean casserole, and fried chicken. And I think you're gonna love it.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  I'm shaking.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  I think you're gonna love it.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  I'm gonna take you up on this.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  Don't tempt me with a good time, I swear.

• 40:09Speaker 02

  I like, believe you.

• 40:10Speaker 01

  I would die to do that.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Okay, I wanna do it.

• 40:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:13Speaker 02

  That's the, we're gonna do it.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  Okay. And it's okay if you don't like it. I mean, you're gonna love it.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  I know I'm gonna love it.

• 40:18Speaker 01

  But if you're like, this just really isn't my steez, you could just have the fried chicken.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  I love fried chicken. You know what I was gonna ask you about? Crumble cookies.

• 40:27Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  Do you really like crumble cookies?

• 40:30Speaker 01

  I really did. I did because I saw them everywhere and I don't really get out much these days.

• 40:37Speaker 02

  Really? Like, you just spend your days in your home?

• 40:40Speaker 01

  Well, I travel a lot.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  But when I'm in LA, for some reason, when I'm here, it's hard for me to leave the house.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Why do you think that is?

• 40:50Speaker 01

  I think that's because, honestly...

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Paparazzi or in LA, it's just easier to be spotted, I think.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  So the thought of like trying to find an outfit and like getting ready and present and then I go back and forth because that's a silly way to think about it, but it's honestly the truth.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  But do they just wait by your house for your car to leave?

• 41:20Speaker 01

  No, because I don't really leave.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 41:24Speaker 01

  So they don't really wait for me anymore.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  Do you remember the height of it? Like, did it used to be way worse?

• 41:30Speaker 01

  It used to be so insane. You, I don't even know how I'm like a normal person right now.

• 41:37Speaker 02

  Like, what would it, what was it like?

• 41:40Speaker 01

  The things that they would say to me and how they would treat me as a child.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  Oh, no way.

• 41:45Speaker 01

  Is diabolical. Like inappropriate.

• 41:52Speaker 01

  I would be coming out of a thing and they'd be like, "You fucking slut."

• 41:55Speaker 02

  What?

• 41:55Speaker 01

  When I was sixteen.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  You're lying.

• 41:58Speaker 01

  I'm not lying. The things that they would say to me, I would never try to give them a photo.

• 42:06Speaker 01

  So I would just jump in the car and then there would be like six of them and they would stand in front of my car as I was like sixteen, like turning my car on, whatever, and they would all stand out because I would just be like, you know, hiding and they would just be like, "Oh, I'm protect-" like, you know, mock me.

• 42:21Speaker 02

  What?

• 42:22Speaker 01

  They wanted to just make more money off a scandalous photo.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  And they wanted you to be like this crazy.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  And I was an underage girl by herself. I didn't have security. I didn't have security till after I had my daughter because I really didn't want to be, I really wanted to not have security. I wanted to be normal. I wanted to be with my friends. I wanted to be on my own in the world. Like, I did not want.

• 42:46Speaker 02

  And so you were just completely alone?

• 42:47Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 42:47Speaker 02

  And that must have been so scary.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  It was scary at times.

• 42:54Speaker 02

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• 44:03Speaker 01

  Best time ever. And I'm just so grateful that I'm able to see the behind the scenes.

• 44:08Speaker 02

  Of this?

• 44:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I've watched some episodes and I see it on TikTok and whatever. But to see the behind the scenes is so special.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  Do you feel comfortable?

• 44:20Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm so happy it was at a house.

• 44:22Speaker 02

  I know you were like, I thought I was walking into a studio.

• 44:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I feel like studios, that kind of make you feel, ugh.

• 44:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 44:27Speaker 01

  Like not, you know, comfortable.

• 44:28Speaker 02

  Right.

• 44:29Speaker 01

  This is perfect.

• 44:30Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm so glad. Well, are you ready to do the tell me what's wrongs?

• 44:33Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 44:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 44:35Speaker 02

  "I cannot figure out my own style and fashion for the life of me. I hate everything I wear and it's so hard to feel confident. I'm a creative person too and follow random fashion accounts, etc. But anytime I'm in a changing room, it's tears. I get overwhelmed and end up picking up only the safe options and then hate myself for it later. How do I break the cycle?"

• 44:52Speaker 01

  First of all, me too. I feel like I get into that cycle too. Do you? Or is it easy for you?

• 45:00Speaker 02

  No, it's, I'm like, for the longest time would only wear like the same, like I hate trying on jeans. I hate trying on, like, trying on pants is like my worst nightmare.

• 45:09Speaker 01

  Hmm. Why? So you have like a few?

• 45:12Speaker 02

  I have like three or four pairs of pants that I wear.

• 45:14Speaker 01

  Okay, but I love that.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:16Speaker 01

  I just got rid of so many things because I'm like, I only want things that just make me feel good. Like I want 10 pairs of jeans, two leather pants. Like I don't need,

• 45:26Speaker 01

  I think it's, I think that actually helps. I would say that's my advice. Like go through your closet, really try on everything and see what fits you the best, downsize, and also, um, hmm, what would be my advice for that?

• 45:42Speaker 02

  You have such a creative and like individual style. I feel like that's why people loved you so much from the start. Like you had your own thing going on. How did you like find that on like, how were you like, how did you find confidence to like own your own style?

• 46:00Speaker 01

  When I was dressing, I mean, back then,

• 46:05Speaker 01

  I really wasn't looking. I feel like when you start to look at other people and maybe what works for them might not always work for you. What makes me feel good? What kind of colors make me feel good? Like, I was really experimenting back then. Now I'm a little more, I do get in my head about it though. It's hard, I will say. But then when I have moments, when I'm like freaking out about an outfit too much and I've spent over like 40 minutes trying to pick an outfit, I'm just like, you know what? I'm gonna put on my favorite pair of jeans and a fucking white top and I'm gonna enjoy the night.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  I mean, you know what changed my life was when you went to Coachella in a leather jacket and jeans. And I, I talk about it. I actually talk about it. I pretty much spoken about it on this podcast. As like my Mecca for Coachella outfits.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I love that.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  Cause I was like, she just didn't care.

• 46:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  She just went in leather.

• 46:59Speaker 01

  And sometimes it has to be like that. Sometimes it has to be like that and you pick your moments. Because trying to pick an outfit, it will make me spiral. It will make me overthink. It'll make, and then I get there and I'm like in the worst mood. When I start to feel myself getting that mood, I'm like, I'm putting on the most simple outfit and I'm getting a cute bag or whatever and I'm just gonna enjoy the night.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  Sometimes it's about the accessories.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  Sometimes it's about the accessories. I agree. Absolutely.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  Like sometimes it's about a ring or a necklace or a bracelet that will make your, you feel like you're not just wearing something simple.

• 47:34Speaker 01

  Absolutely. That's good advice.

• 47:37Speaker 02

  Thanks. Every time I encounter a situation with a guy and he starts showing interest in me, I pull away. I've done this since I was younger and now I'm in my mid twenties. I think I'm defensive because I'm scared of rejection. Oh, me too. How do I allow myself to become vulnerable without my brain convincing me there is something wrong with the guy?

• 47:54Speaker 01

  What do you have to say about that?

• 47:56Speaker 02

  I'm the same way. I'm terrified of rejection. I'm like terrified of it. And I get it all the time and it's horrible.

• 48:04Speaker 01

  So what's your advice for that?

• 48:05Speaker 02

  My advice is like, you, it's like jumping into cold water. Like you just have to do it.

• 48:10Speaker 01

  That one's hard.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  Dating's hard nowadays. I think I might be genuinely stupid. I did fine in school, but like I literally don't understand the subtext or whatever of anything I watch or listen to or read. I'm always just like, I liked that or that was weird. I've been hanging out with these people who are more creative and it feels like they're running laps around me after we watch a show or a movie. Is this a valid insecurity?

• 48:34Speaker 01

  It's definitely valid and I feel like that in different ways too. I'm in situations where people run laps around me all the time. But then we'll be in a different situation and I can run laps around them all the time. You know, I think it's just, you're not gonna be super educated in every single, or maybe you are.

• 48:50Speaker 02

  Right.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  Slay. But I don't think you're gonna be like, yeah, but I've been in situations like that too where I'm like, I have no, my, my like art friends and stuff, like I'm just kind of diving into it and learning, but they're like, you know, this art and da da da and this year da da da. And I'm like, I have no idea what you guys are saying.

• 49:05Speaker 02

  No, no, no idea. But then if they're like, they wanna talk to you about clothes, you'll know.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  Yes, clothes, movies, children.

• 49:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:16Speaker 01

  Like what?

• 49:19Speaker 01

  Makeup.

• 49:23Speaker 01

  Okay. Podcasts, you know.

• 49:25Speaker 02

  You do, you are kind of an expert in podcasts now.

• 49:28Speaker 01

  I'm not.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  You kind of are.

• 49:30Speaker 01

  You think so?

• 49:31Speaker 02

  I kind of think so. You're in your podcast era.

• 49:34Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 49:35Speaker 02

  You're either gonna leave this podcast being like, I'm never doing a podcast again, or that was fun.

• 49:40Speaker 01

  I would come back here every day.

• 49:42Speaker 02

  No, you wouldn't.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Yes, I would. This is so much fun.

• 49:45Speaker 02

  I'm having a really fun time with you.

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Me too. I think I need a podcast.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  Kylie, don't fucking play with me right now. If you had a podcast, I would be sat weekly. Weekly sat.

• 49:57Speaker 01

  That's kind of cute too, if we were like really sat. Like what if we just like sat on the floor on my podcast?

• 50:02Speaker 02

  I called it Sat with Kylie.

• 50:04Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 50:08Speaker 02

  But yeah, I would say the advice is that you are smarter in areas that you're not allowing yourself to be on.

• 50:15Speaker 01

  You're not educated in movies or whatever she said.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  I'm barely educated in movies.

• 50:18Speaker 01

  By who cares? Let them educate you.

• 50:21Speaker 02

  You can always Google it.

• 50:22Speaker 01

  Sure. Chat GPT.

• 50:24Speaker 02

  Chat.

• 50:25Speaker 01

  Hello, chat. You know, and then, you know, the things that you are educated on, yes.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  By the way, the worst advice. Okay.

• 50:35Speaker 02

  No, but it's, but it is good advice. Like you are educated in stuff that they're not educated in.

• 50:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 50:42Speaker 02

  So who cares?

• 50:42Speaker 01

  So wait your turn.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  Wait your turn. Wait your turn.

• 50:46Speaker 01

  Wait your turn. You just fucking wait.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 50:49Speaker 01

  Cheers.

• 50:51Speaker 02

  How many times have we cheersed?

• 50:53Speaker 01

  Like a million.

• 50:55Speaker 01

  Cheers. After every question.

• 50:58Speaker 02

  We do.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  My best friend's an extrovert who doesn't know how to spend time alone. Well, I'm an introvert who needs alone time after being with anyone for too long. She always wants me to be with her. On runs, on calls, study dates. I love her, but it's really annoying. I'm with her six out of the seven days a week, and it's draining my energy and making me resent her. She can't take a hint and will pester me until I agree to be with her. I'm not friend.

• 51:22Speaker 01

  Well, she wants to have sex with you.

• 51:28Speaker 01

  I'm just kidding. Wait, so you're you're the friend that pesters till they

• 51:31Speaker 02

  I need to be with people at all times. I can't be alone.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  I you I used to be like that. I think I I grew out of it, but I definitely used to. I can understand that feeling.

• 51:44Speaker 01

  Until you're like, you know what it was? It was like me forced to be alone when I was pregnant for the first time.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Oh, cuz.

• 51:50Speaker 01

  And that changed everything for me. I've never had so much alone time in my life. And now I'm a different person because of it.

• 51:58Speaker 02

  What did you do with that alone time?

• 52:00Speaker 01

  Nothing. Well, I would make a schedule for myself in my head.

• 52:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:04Speaker 01

  I had to make schedules so I didn't go crazy.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Right.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  But yeah, um, anyway, what the fuck was the question?

• 52:21Speaker 02

  That was funny. Oh, I need those jeans is what I was planning on asking you. The high jeans. I need them.

• 52:29Speaker 01

  You said you don't like trying on jeans.

• 52:30Speaker 02

  I know, but I said to Louise, show them off.

• 52:35Speaker 02

  And the Kai on the ass is just everything.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  They're the best, like baggy low rise. This is like a style we did off of like our best selling style.

• 52:50Speaker 01

  When you're like selling things.

• 52:53Speaker 01

  Buy now.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  No, these are these are the best.

• 52:58Speaker 02

  I really want those jeans. I said to Louise, I was like, I need those fucking jeans.

• 53:01Speaker 01

  What size do you think you'd be though? They're not actually.

• 53:04Speaker 02

  I don't know about that.

• 53:05Speaker 01

  I'll send you like three.

• 53:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, just send me multiple sizes.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Send you three.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  But what was the question?

• 53:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, right? Wait, she's um.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  Oh, she she can't be this friend can't be alone.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  Okay, okay.

• 53:20Speaker 02

  So.

• 53:21Speaker 01

  Okay, my advice, my only advice to that is clear communication.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  She has to sit her down and say, I actually, this is how I'm actually feeling. I think communication and being honest in any relationship is very important. And you need to just have a conversation with your friend.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  Are you are you confrontational?

• 53:42Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  I, I get that.

• 53:46Speaker 01

  I think I am.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  I think you are.

• 53:49Speaker 01

  I'm confrontational.

• 53:50Speaker 02

  Sorry, this is such a pivot, but did you ever have like any college experience at all? Like, did you ever like go to a college party? Like, did you ever like?

• 53:59Speaker 01

  College, I might have missed a little bit. I went to a lot of high school parties.

• 54:05Speaker 01

  Lots of high school parties. College was, you're 20, I'm like.

• 54:10Speaker 02

  Were you ever worried about people like filming you drinking when you were underage?

• 54:15Speaker 01

  Um, yeah.

• 54:17Speaker 02

  But was the phone like less present then than it was now? Cause I feel like everyone's out now.

• 54:22Speaker 01

  The phone was way less present and I think we would hide it. We would put it in like a drink or like Stas would be there and like pass me like a little sip of something. Or like, you know, if we're like smoking a cigarette, she'd like under and I'm like.

• 54:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. But cigarettes are kind of back.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  Oh, cigarettes are so back. Thank God. I've been like hiding for so many years.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  They're back.

• 54:42Speaker 01

  I'm only a drunk. I'm really only a drunk. There's very few times where I'm like, I need a cigarette. I'm in Europe in the summer, like midday.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  I'll wake up and smoke a cigarette in Europe.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Exactly. Like, hi, there are no rules.

• 54:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, there are no rules. Out on the terrace of my hotel room, cigarette, because they burn so fast in Europe.

• 55:01Speaker 01

  They're perfect.

• 55:02Speaker 02

  They're per- oh my God, I want to go to Europe right now.

• 55:03Speaker 01

  I want to go Europe too.

• 55:06Speaker 01

  I want to go. Take me to Europe.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  I want to go now.

• 55:10Speaker 01

  I'm having a Europe summer.

• 55:11Speaker 02

  Are you really?

• 55:12Speaker 01

  No plans, but I'm going to be there.

• 55:13Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm going to go to, I'm, I'm in France all of June.

• 55:16Speaker 01

  France all of June. Okay.

• 55:18Speaker 02

  Oh, she's saying no?

• 55:19Speaker 04

  All of June?

• 55:21Speaker 01

  Manifest, babe.

• 55:22Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm manifesting. I'm going to be in France all of June. And I'm going to smoke cigarettes all of June with my hot French boyfriend. Should we smoke after this?

• 55:32Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 55:33Speaker 02

  I have, I have, we'll smoke after this.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  Because we had our wine.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, and we deserve that.

• 55:39Speaker 01

  Of course, we deserve that.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  It's the least we can do for ourselves.

• 55:43Speaker 01

  You want to know who's the best person?

• 55:44Speaker 02

  Who?

• 55:45Speaker 01

  Kris Jenner.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:46Speaker 01

  You've met her on that carpet?

• 55:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:48Speaker 01

  Is that the only time?

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Yes, that, no, yes, that is the only time.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  When I tell you she's the best person on the planet, like she really is. The way that she lives life is so inspiring and her energy, like when we go on vacation together, when we're out together, like she, her vibration is so on another level. And like, she just enjoys life. She enjoys people. She's like, you know, wants everyone to feel good. She's

• 56:16Speaker 01

  she's da, da, da, da. She's just living her best life.

• 56:18Speaker 02

  No, this generation, we don't drink anymore.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  We don't drink anymore.

• 56:21Speaker 02

  We don't do anything.

• 56:23Speaker 01

  We don't like cook and invite people over for fried chicken.

• 56:27Speaker 02

  Well, it's because of COVID.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  It's because of COVID, it's because of TikTok, it's because of like, everyone just wants to lay in bed and just be on the internet.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  I feel numb to my surroundings and life right now. I'm right out of college and even just ended my four-year relationship. And I really don't feel sad or nostalgic about anything, just like I wake up and do my thing and that's it. I'm worried that I'm like a psychopath or something. And if I stay this way and that, I'll stay this way. If it, if it's just a phase, what can I do to get out of it?

• 56:57Speaker 01

  You know, when you're a kid, time moves really slow.

• 57:00Speaker 02

  Yes, very slow.

• 57:01Speaker 01

  Time moves very slow.

• 57:02Speaker 02

  Years are like centuries.

• 57:04Speaker 01

  And I read something recently that says the reason that, that you felt like that as a child is because you were experiencing so many new things at once. So as an adult, instead of getting into routine where time moves really fast, do new things. Go to Kylie's house and eat fried chicken, you know? Take a pottery class. So I started doing things to help time move a little bit slower.

• 57:30Speaker 02

  You've opened my third eye.

• 57:31Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 57:32Speaker 02

  You've literally opened my third eye.

• 57:34Speaker 01

  Like, literally book a pottery class. Do, do things.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  Just do random shit.

• 57:38Speaker 01

  Go to Disneyland.

• 57:39Speaker 02

  Oh, I love Disneyland.

• 57:41Speaker 01

  You know, but we've done that, we've done that a bunch of times too. But like, do something.

• 57:46Speaker 02

  Do something new.

• 57:47Speaker 01

  Don't have a Euro summer. Go to Australia.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  No, but we're having a Euro summer.

• 57:53Speaker 02

  We're having a Euro summer.

• 57:55Speaker 01

  I'm so sorry I said anything. We're having a Euro summer.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  Um, no, but yeah.

• 58:02Speaker 02

  Jake, an amazing guest. I've been thinking about breaking up with my therapist for a while. I'm just so scared of starting over. Like, she knows everything about me, but she also agrees with me all the time and gives me the most basic ass quotes. I'm just paying her to rant at this point, but at the same time, I kinda need that to help.

• 58:17Speaker 01

  She needs to move on.

• 58:18Speaker 02

  She needs to move on. I'm breaking up with my therapist right now.

• 58:21Speaker 01

  Break up with your therapist? And who cares if she knows everything?

• 58:24Speaker 02

  Right, it's not like she's-

• 58:25Speaker 01

  It's not like she's gonna say anything.

• 58:27Speaker 02

  Was that ever a concern for you, talking to a therapist? Like?

• 58:31Speaker 01

  No, but a little bit.

• 58:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:33Speaker 01

  I'm still a little guarded, and I've had two therapist experiences. Now I don't have one.

• 58:42Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 58:42Speaker 02

  Where they, like, spoke to people?

• 58:45Speaker 01

  No, no, no. No, but when I'm, I'm just saying I've only had experience with two therapists, and not for a long time. Like, I'm not in therapy right now.

• 58:56Speaker 02

  Wow, I didn't know that about you.

• 58:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  And you're just able to kinda like raw dog life?

• 59:01Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 59:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:03Speaker 01

  I have totally raw dog life, and I'm fine.

• 59:06Speaker 02

  You seem fine.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  Thank you. I think what I need to do, and what I do often, which I think is really healthy, is like, delete the apps.

• 59:16Speaker 02

  Like what? Like TikTok and Instagram?

• 59:18Speaker 01

  Like, I'll take a week every now and then, sometimes two, and just like, delete the apps.

• 59:23Speaker 02

  You're just like, it becomes loud?

• 59:24Speaker 01

  Yes. Delete the apps, um-

• 59:27Speaker 02

  Live life.

• 59:28Speaker 01

  Because, I don't know.

• 59:31Speaker 02

  Ooh, my last question for you.

• 59:33Speaker 01

  Okay. Like, ever?

• 59:34Speaker 02

  Wait, no, not ever. Are you having fun? I'm having the best time, but I feel like I'm trapping you. Oh, I need to ask you.

• 59:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:41Speaker 02

  Bora Bora, is it as beautiful as it seems?

• 59:44Speaker 01

  I didn't love Bora Bora.

• 59:51Speaker 02

  You didn't?

• 59:52Speaker 01

  Go to Turks and Caicos, babe.

• 59:54Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 59:54Speaker 01

  Did you, have you been to Turks and Caicos before? Best place ever.

• 59:57Speaker 02

  What's it like?

• 59:58Speaker 01

  Oh my god, let me tell you everything.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  Tell me, tell me.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  The mornings, the weather, the sunrises, the sunsets, the way that the air feels, the fucking sand, the crystal blue water.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  Is the water warm?

• 1:00:12Speaker 01

  Warm!

• 1:00:13Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 1:00:14Speaker 01

  The water's warm.

• 1:00:15Speaker 02

  I need it.

• 1:00:15Speaker 01

  Every day I'm mourning not being there, which probably isn't healthy, but I'm like, it's the warm water, the sand, the gorgeousness, the food.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  You should go for your birthday.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:00:28Speaker 02

  Where were you just vacationing?

• 1:00:30Speaker 01

  I was just vacationing in the Bahamas.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  I mean.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Cheers.

• 1:00:39Speaker 02

  Well, Kylie, what did we learn today?

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  I learned.

• 1:00:45Speaker 02

  This has been one of the most, I feel so locked in with you right now.

• 1:00:50Speaker 01

  I feel so locked in. I want a cigarette.

• 1:00:53Speaker 02

  Now.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  Now.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  Do we have some at the house?

• 1:00:56Speaker 01

  My security always has some.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  Can we please smoke?

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  Security, emergency cigarette.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  But your security is so lovely.

• 1:01:03Speaker 01

  The best.

• 1:01:04Speaker 02

  When they came over to like, check out the surroundings, like, they, they just spoke so highly of you.

• 1:01:10Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:01:11Speaker 02

  And it made me so much more excited for this.

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  Oh, that's so sweet.

• 1:01:14Speaker 02

  I was like, I'm so nervous. And they were like, she's so good at it.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  Oh, that's really sweet.

• 1:01:19Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then Manny out there was like, they're the best.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  Oh my god, Manny's like my, like, he literally like, will like, take my daughter somewhere. Like, I trust him.

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  With, yeah.

• 1:01:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, my kids.

• 1:01:33Speaker 02

  But what did we learn today? We learned that.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  First of all, this is my kid.

• 1:01:38Speaker 02

  Who's calling?

• 1:01:39Speaker 01

  Hello? Hello?

• 1:01:43Speaker 01

  Hi, Angel.

• 1:01:46Speaker 01

  Okay. Bye, love you.

• 1:01:50Speaker 02

  That's really cute.

• 1:01:51Speaker 01

  Oh, what are we gonna do?

• 1:01:54Speaker 01

  Do you want babies?

• 1:01:55Speaker 02

  I think I do want babies, but like, I think I want to do it the Andy Cohen way.

• 1:02:00Speaker 01

  What's the Andy Cohen way?

• 1:02:02Speaker 02

  Forty, adopt two, call it a day.

• 1:02:04Speaker 01

  I like that.

• 1:02:05Speaker 02

  Yeah. Theo and Annabelle.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  Theo and Annabelle.

• 1:02:09Speaker 02

  Chic, right?

• 1:02:11Speaker 01

  I love Theo and Annabelle. I love Annabelle.

• 1:02:14Speaker 02

  Right?

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:02:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. And that's what I want to name my two babies. I want to adopt them and call it a day. Even if I'm not with someone, that's what I want. Well, Kylie, this has been a drain. Thank you for doing this.

• 1:02:29Speaker 01

  I'm so happy. I couldn't be happier to be here, really.

• 1:02:32Speaker 02

  I love you.

• 1:02:32Speaker 01

  I love.

• 1:02:33Speaker 02

  I love you.

• 1:02:34Speaker 01

  I love you. I love you. I think you're the best.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  You are the best.

• 1:02:38Speaker 01

  You are the best.

• 1:02:38Speaker 02

  You're the best.

• 1:02:39Speaker 01

  You're the best.

• 1:02:40Speaker 02

  And I had so much fun with you. And I didn't even, for the first time, didn't even notice.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:02:45Speaker 02

  Everything else. Sorry.

• 1:02:49Speaker 02

  Let's have a cigarette.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  Let's have a cigarette. Bye pussies, I love you.

• 1:03:10Speaker 00

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