Session 118: Charlize Theron

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• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:41Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapuss. I just got out of the shower, which is why my hair is looking a little messy. It's a little wet. Feel like I need a little bit of a haircut is now what I'm realizing. Well, it's just me for the intro today. So I'm trying to think of what to say. I'm in, well, I've been vintage shopping lately, in case anyone is curious. Manny knows. And this is a vintage shirt that I bought. And I'm really pumped about it. And my entire closet has, is full of vintage stuff now. So I can't wait to feel like a vintage girl. My stomach hurts, my back hurts. My back kills, actually.

• 1:23Speaker 01

  And it's gotten to the point where I can't tell if my back actually hurts or I'm just making it up at this point. Because I have an addiction now to feeling like the little knot in my back right there and like rubbing my fingers off and on it. So I wonder if this is just what my life is now. I feel like maybe I gave myself a back problem. Because I really, my back was hurting really badly the other day. And then I put on a hoodie wrong and it was like the most, like, it made the most sense for how it happened for me. I was watching a basketball game. I was watching these men sweat and like fight over this ball like for two hours.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  Like falling, jumping, all this stuff. I'm literally just sitting. All of a sudden I put my hoodie on to get up and leave, back pulls.

• 2:16Speaker 01

  I felt like, of course, you know, I didn't even, and then these men do this every day.

• 2:23Speaker 01

  So if you're new here,

• 2:26Speaker 01

  this is not usually how things go. I usually have a friend with me. Oh, I guess, well, today's technically Wednesday, so I'm going to New York Wednesday night, which is tonight. Um, I'm so excited. We're recording some fun therapist episodes and I'm just excited to be in a city in the spring. Like, New York really is at its best in May, and I cannot wait to be able to experience it. Although, I'm trying not to drink right now, which I keep failing at, but I'm really, really gonna try this weekend to not drink. And if I come out of this weekend without having drank, I will be so proud of myself. But I am smoking every day. And I am realizing that the weed is making me incredibly paranoid.

• 3:11Speaker 01

  I had a moment the other night where I thought I was schizophrenic, because the, when I was watching television, my sound was off. So when people were speaking, the sound of people speaking, like, was off to the actual audio. And then I was like, you know what? Fuck it, I'll just watch it on my computer. But then I convinced myself the same thing was happening on my computer. So I was like, oh, it's, it's happening. The big man's here. Like, I'm schizophrenic. Because it's like, if you know, you know. Like, that's my number one fear, schizophrenia. And I, um, sorry.

• 3:41Speaker 02

  Like, what are you talking about?

• 3:45Speaker 01

  I'm enjoying it. Because Manny sees me. Like, Manny understands everything I'm saying. And by the way, the fear of schizophrenia is a real OCD thing, and I will not have anybody come up on here and tell me otherwise. I'm allowed to be scared of things.

• 4:01Speaker 02

  How's your reading going?

• 4:01Speaker 01

  Okay. Well, you know what? Shout out Kindle. I have a really hard time, and this is not a sponsor, my nightlight doesn't display enough light in order for me to read. So Kindles, like, really make it easier, because, like, they light up in the dark. And, yeah. But I've been reading Fame Sick by Lena Dunham, which is obviously amazing. Like, you know that's my queen. So. But I'm reading a little bit every night on my Kindle. Like, I was really trying to go for, like, the rustic look of the book, but like, I couldn't, I couldn't. I had to go with my Kindle. Um, so I'm reading a little bit of that every night. I actually just started Imperfect Woman. Anyone seen?

• 4:42Speaker 01

  It's very good. It's Elizabeth Moss, Kerry Washington, Kate Mara. It's very good. It's giving like all her fault vibes. Very soapy, very like you start and it jumps right in, which is what I needed. Um, it puts me to bed. Um, okay. Have, I don't know if you guys can tell, but like I kind of have a new closet going on.

• 5:04Speaker 01

  Can you tell?

• 5:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  I have a new closet going on. Actually, let's get Matt on the phone. I wonder if he's realized that I have a new closet going on.

• 5:14Speaker 03

  Hello?

• 5:15Speaker 01

  Have you noticed that I have like a new closet going on?

• 5:19Speaker 03

  A new what?

• 5:20Speaker 01

  A new closet going on.

• 5:22Speaker 03

  What do you mean?

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Like new clothes. Have you noticed?

• 5:26Speaker 03

  Like all Ann Taylor and stuff?

• 5:28Speaker 01

  What?

• 5:29Speaker 03

  Like Ann Taylor, stuff like that?

• 5:32Speaker 01

  Ann Taylor? No. What are you talking about?

• 5:35Speaker 03

  Oh, I thought that's like what you were saying. You got Ann Taylor or shit or something.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  What?

• 5:45Speaker 01

  What?

• 5:47Speaker 03

  What did you say?

• 5:48Speaker 01

  I said, have you noticed I got new clothes?

• 5:50Speaker 03

  I guess.

• 5:51Speaker 01

  What are you doing?

• 5:52Speaker 03

  Nothing. I just picked up my phone. I broke it today.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  Oh, so you, it's actually funny. You, so you broke the phone today?

• 6:00Speaker 03

  Uh, like really early this morning. Yeah.

• 6:02Speaker 01

  So then why were you using that as an excuse for not responding to my texts all weekend?

• 6:07Speaker 03

  Uh, I wasn't feeling too good this weekend.

• 6:09Speaker 01

  So why couldn't you just say that instead of I broke my phone?

• 6:13Speaker 03

  Well, I did break my phone.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  This morning?

• 6:17Speaker 03

  What does that have to do with anything?

• 6:19Speaker 01

  I texted you asking why you couldn't, weren't speaking to me this weekend and you said I broke my phone. You just told me you broke it this morning.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  I mean, I don't know if any of that's really relevant, to be honest.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  What do you mean?

• 6:32Speaker 03

  Like that doesn't really make any sense. It's like what you're saying.

• 6:35Speaker 01

  No, it may, exactly. It makes no sense. That's why I'm bringing it up to you.

• 6:40Speaker 03

  Right, right.

• 6:44Speaker 01

  Okay, well, love you.

• 6:46Speaker 03

  Love you.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  Love you, bye. Oh my god, sweets and snacks, we decided we're going to EDC now the night before. Yeah. No, what, what? So I thought we were going to EDC for Vegas and apparently we're not going to EDC for Vegas, so I have to break the news to everyone. Hi.

• 7:02Speaker 02

  Hi.

• 7:04Speaker 01

  Pup, we're not, yeah, we're not going to EDC anymore.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  Okay, why?

• 7:09Speaker 01

  Because we can't.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  Why not?

• 7:13Speaker 01

  We can't go, we can't go to EDC anymore.

• 7:17Speaker 02

  Nobody cares.

• 7:19Speaker 04

  What happened? Are you cancelling sweets and snacks?

• 7:22Speaker 01

  No, I can't.

• 7:23Speaker 04

  He's cancelling EDC. I mean, to be honest with you. I mean, why do you think I didn't answer once in the group chat? In the whole world, were we going to EDC? I'm so down. Oh my god, everyone needs to shush up, like. So what happened?

• 7:37Speaker 05

  We're disturbing Chuchu's peace.

• 7:40Speaker 04

  What happened is that Jake was manic last night and screaming that we're going to EDC. I didn't answer because I knew we never were. So he's cancelling something that I never thought I was attending.

• 7:49Speaker 01

  Okay, everyone say sweets and snacks on three, one, two, three.

• 7:53Speaker 04

  Sweets and snacks!

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Yes. Oh, my back, you guys. Oh, it's like, I want to live my life, all I want all day long is to have somebody just going into the knot in my back, like, all day long, all day long. I want to wake up, face down, and have someone say, "Good morning", and start kneading my back.

• 8:17Speaker 01

  And then just like, take a break when I have to go pee or eat lunch, and then continue kneading my back. That's what I want, all day long. Just this one spot, and it like, hurts, but it feels like when you're poking a gum. Like, you know, when it hurts, but you're like, "Ugh." But I guess gums don't need to be poked, and backs need to be. So, we're going to sweets and snacks in Vegas. Everyone's super excited. See, the thing is, though, I don't know if we're gonna go out, and I don't think they know that, and so I feel like I'm kind of bamboozling everybody to come to Vegas, and they're like, like, what are we gonna do?

• 8:53Speaker 02

  I think we should go out.

• 8:54Speaker 01

  Really? On a Monday in Vegas?

• 8:55Speaker 02

  It's a Tuesday.

• 8:57Speaker 01

  Do things happen on Tuesdays in Vegas? Are you sure?

• 8:59Speaker 02

  I do think we have to go out.

• 9:01Speaker 01

  Are clubs going to be open on a Tuesday?

• 9:04Speaker 02

  Something's gonna be open.

• 9:10Speaker 01

  Because you know the club going up.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  Oh my god, that's really funny.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  I mean, they have that song for a reason, clearly. Tonight, we have on Charlize Theron, whose new movie Apex is out now. It's amazing. I got the chance to watch it. And obviously, Academy Award winner, icon, actress extraordinaire. She's everything. I was so honored I got to talk to her. You can literally hop over from Therapists to Apex because we're both on Netflix. But um. And she's a fellow Housewives fan like me. So enjoy the interview. Happy Wednesday. I love you pussies.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Hi pussies. Tonight, we have on something I never thought I'd say, but Academy Award winner Charlize Theron.

• 9:58Speaker 06

  Oh, thank you.

• 10:00Speaker 01

  Thanks for being here.

• 10:01Speaker 06

  Thank you for having me.

• 10:03Speaker 01

  This is actually, you remember when we met at the Tate McRae Show?

• 10:05Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 10:06Speaker 01

  Did you enjoy the show?

• 10:07Speaker 06

  I did. My girls were there. They absolutely loved it. Yeah, we're fans.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  Have they seen any of your movies?

• 10:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, I actually saw Apex because they were out for most of it. The shooting of it in Australia, and they came out was during summer. No, it was summer or spring break. I can't remember now. No, it was, I can't remember. But they came out, there was like a school holiday attached to it. And they loved being in Australia where we shot. They really like, just loved the experience of being out in the wilderness. And they, they, for the first time ever, they got some jobs. They were assistants on the set. They would kind of like help out and get coffees. And I put them to work. I was like.

• 10:49Speaker 01

  Right, if you're gonna be here.

• 10:50Speaker 06

  You're gonna keep asking me what my job is? I'm gonna make you have a job where I have my job. But they were really loving it. And so when the rough cut came around, I was like, do you guys want to watch it with me? And they were like, no, mom. And then I turned it on and they started watching it. And then they just couldn't stop watching it. And it was truly one of my favorite moments because my 14-year-old, who's not at all impressed by me and always gives me kind of like a look of like, did you just fart? Sat next to me and she was just like, she got so, she's like, why is Sasha doing that? What? That's my character then. Why Sasha? What? No, Sasha can't do that, Mom. I was like, you were there. You know what the story is about. Like, why are you?

• 11:31Speaker 06

  So I knew that we were on to something because they were even like fully engaged and forgot that it was Mom. They actually totally forgot that it was Mom up there.

• 11:39Speaker 01

  Oh, so you must have felt like, I did, I did, I did something cool.

• 11:43Speaker 06

  You know, the best, the, the biggest compliment was they said, the movie feels really short, Mom.

• 11:49Speaker 01

  It did feel short.

• 11:50Speaker 06

  Did it?

• 11:51Speaker 01

  Yes, very short.

• 11:52Speaker 06

  Oh, look at that. You guys have something in common. That's a good, that's a good thing.

• 11:56Speaker 01

  I know. How long is it?

• 11:58Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 11:59Speaker 01

  It's like two hours almost, right?

• 12:00Speaker 06

  It's a little less, yes. But it feels, because it has such an engine, right?

• 12:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's excellent.

• 12:06Speaker 06

  Oh, thank you so much. You liked it?

• 12:08Speaker 01

  I loved it. And I loved it even more when I discovered that you do most of your own stunts.

• 12:13Speaker 06

  I do most of my action stunt. I feel like stunts are like crazy things, like throwing yourself down a staircase or off a building. Like, I don't, I don't do that stuff, but I, I like doing action.

• 12:26Speaker 06

  Because I feel like good action movies make the physical stuff be part of the storytelling. It's not compartmentalized. It's not like the movie stops, you have some action, the movie picks up again.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:39Speaker 06

  And so I do, I feel like if you want to make a movie like that, you have to really kind of engage in all of that stuff.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  What drew you to the script initially?

• 12:49Speaker 06

  I thought that there was a lot of potential. When I originally read it, it was, the characters were different.

• 12:57Speaker 06

  But the, the premise, the idea was so straightforward, you know, like, you're just like, right in page 10, she's already in the wilderness, she meets this guy, he ends up being a serial killer, and he starts chasing her. And I just loved how simple that concept was. Didn't feel contrived to me and like plot driven. And then we just really spent a lot of time developing the characters, but I just loved the two-hander aspect of it, getting to work that intimately with another actor and coming up with some really good, I think, psychological scenes that makes the movie more like.

• 13:37Speaker 06

  A psychological thriller, action thriller slash action thriller. So I think of it more almost psychologically than action.

• 13:44Speaker 01

  You've been in a lot of like, action movies throughout your career. Like, is there something about them specifically that draws you to them?

• 13:52Speaker 06

  I've been lucky enough to develop most of the action movies, except for Mad Max Fury Road. But Atomic Blonde, I developed from eight pages of a comic book.

• 14:04Speaker 06

  And so that we really, I really developed that movie for myself. And the same with the Old Guard films. I did definitely, I wanted to, I was like, if I'm gonna make some action movies, I want to make some really good ones. And so I really kind of took it into my own hands. Yeah, the same with this one. I really wanted to like, make this something really special.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  Well, it is very special.

• 14:30Speaker 06

  Thank you.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  And I'm so excited for everyone to see it.

• 14:32Speaker 06

  Do you like these kind of movies?

• 14:33Speaker 01

  I like the ones that you're in.

• 14:35Speaker 06

  Oh, that's not, good answer.

• 14:38Speaker 01

  Thank you. I actually re-watched Monster.

• 14:41Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  And I forgot how much it scared me as a child.

• 14:45Speaker 06

  Oh, my God, that's right. You saw it as a child. Oh, my God, I'm so old.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  No, no, no, I mean, I, and I, what I could think about after finishing it was, well, there were so many things I was thinking about, but you won Best Actress for it at the Academy Awards.

• 14:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  What did that feel like the morning after?

• 15:03Speaker 06

  I was hungover.

• 15:06Speaker 06

  I remember, such a stupid vivid memory, but I remember like, turning around and on my nightstand were false eyelashes, five million dollars worth of jewelry, and my silicone boobs.

• 15:24Speaker 06

  So stacked up in a pile. And I was like, that was a good night.

• 15:27Speaker 01

  Did you feel any type of like, like, pressure to do like, Monster 2.0 next award season? Or was there just, or were you able to ground yourself?

• 15:38Speaker 06

  It's definitely challenging because you do feel like there's a lot of eyes on you.

• 15:43Speaker 06

  But, and I was, you know, I was young. I was 27.

• 15:49Speaker 06

  There's definitely this feeling of like, like every step feels like it could be the wrong step and then, you know, something that you can't control. You have to just kind of, you have to watch that you don't start doing movies because people are kind of encouraging you to make them and you're not going by your own creative instinct, you know, which is something that I've just always trusted. Because then also, if the movie doesn't work and it doesn't, and it's fail, it fails, you've done it on your own terms and it's something that meant something to you.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 16:21Speaker 06

  But it's hard, for sure, that I, I did not necessarily, I liked that doors opened. Like, all of a sudden, directors who I admired wanted to meet me and like, all of these things weren't happening before. Like, I loved all of that because I could see that this was going to be something that changed the trajectory of my career. And I was really excited about that. But the other aspect of it, of like, what is the thing that she's going to pick and how, I just knew people were going to have opinions around it. And I didn't like that part of it.

• 16:54Speaker 01

  I know. I feel like that only happens with female best actress.

• 16:58Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  You know, winners. There's always that discussion, like when Mikey Madison won for Enora, it was like, what's she gonna pick next? What's she gonna pick next?

• 17:06Speaker 06

  That's so interesting that you noticed that, because I think it's true, too. I really do. I feel like women get such an unfair shake. There's a lot of like, oh, you don't want to do what this person did. But it's like, like, why not? Like, not every movie is a, gonna be a success. Like, no actor has one success after another.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:24Speaker 06

  But I agree. I feel like women have definitely a harder time.

• 17:29Speaker 01

  Especially when they're young.

• 17:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  Because people love an ingenue.

• 17:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 17:32Speaker 01

  And they just want to like, make sure they mold them into however they want.

• 17:36Speaker 06

  Are you, are you a young girl? I feel like you really understand. I feel like you understand.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  I grew up around women. All my best friends are girls. So I-

• 17:44Speaker 06

  Do you have sisters?

• 17:45Speaker 01

  No, I have a younger brother.

• 17:46Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  But my mom and I are best friends and I grew up around- My whole team is basically women and so.

• 17:53Speaker 06

  I know, but you have like a sensitivity, like a like a innate understanding that is not like I know a lot of people who have that, but they don't. You have like a you tuned into it. It's really nice.

• 18:04Speaker 01

  Oh, well.

• 18:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, I like it.

• 18:05Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 18:06Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's really nice.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, I just wanted to ask you about that because I was like, I wonder what she felt like picking that. And what next project did you pick for two thousand for two thousand four?

• 18:18Speaker 06

  It was a film called Ian Flux.

• 18:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 18:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, and it ended up actually being a film that really, um, it changed my my life in a not so great sense. I herniated a disc in my neck doing a back handspring. And I landed on my neck on a on a concrete bridge. And I I almost paralyzed myself and it was like day ten on the on like a really long shoot of this movie. And they had to shut the movie down and I was I was in a lot of pain and um, they were like, you have to finish the movie. Let's take six weeks off, like do some P T and like we'll see how it goes. And there's like a good chance because you're so

• 19:03Speaker 06

  young and you're fit and you're healthy that your body will absorb this disc. And long story short, I I got myself healthy enough to go and finish the movie. But from that time, for the next eight years, I I suffer from severe chronic pain, neck pain.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, I had no idea. I'm so sorry.

• 19:23Speaker 06

  No, it's it was truly, truly one of the like, when you when you deal with pain for eight years, I have, I I don't really, I can't describe it any other way than just it's so fear based because you're just waiting for the next thing that's going to set your neck off and lock it and you're going to be in bed for five days.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  Right.

• 19:45Speaker 06

  And at first it was like, oh, because I did that big workout. And then it became like, I just reached for the towel to dry my body and my neck is out.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 19:55Speaker 06

  So I had a neck fusion done, um, where there's a metal plate kind of holding my two. And then a year ago, I had the one right above it, it replaced not with metal, but just with a disc replacement. So now I'm bionic. I can do anything with my neck. But that movie really. It caused a lot of hell for me.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. I, when I asked, I had no idea. I'm so sorry.

• 20:19Speaker 06

  No, it's totally fine. I mean, this is your job. You're doing a great job.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Thank you. Well, what are you therapist about today?

• 20:28Speaker 06

  I'm angry about something, but I don't know if I want to share it. But like, I had some dental work done, and I'm not very happy with my mouth right now. And I'm not happy that my doctor told me that I would, a week ago, be fine, and I'm not fine. And I don't understand why doctors don't just tell us truthfully what's gonna happen.

• 20:45Speaker 01

  Why do you think that is?

• 20:47Speaker 06

  Because they want our money.

• 20:49Speaker 01

  Oh, you think it's that?

• 20:50Speaker 06

  Yes. Because if they actually told me this, I would have said, no, I'm not gonna do this right now.

• 20:55Speaker 01

  Right.

• 20:56Speaker 06

  Because I know I have stuff coming up. And he knew it, because I told him. And he was like, I gotta sucker her in right now, because she might not come back. And so, yeah, I'm not, I'm not very happy with this guy right now. He's like, he'll be fine. Are you kidding me? Never told me that it was gonna be like a certain amount of like, having stitches. I was like, why would you not share this information with me?

• 21:17Speaker 01

  Right.

• 21:18Speaker 06

  I went for my post-op, and I was like, you never said any of this to me. And he was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's okay. I tell you now.

• 21:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, but that doesn't make it okay. You should have told me the first time I saw you.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  You have to get a new doctor.

• 21:33Speaker 06

  I think so, too. I think I got bamboozled.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  Is this a dental guy? I have someone for you.

• 21:38Speaker 06

  Okay, great. I love it.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  He's been great for me.

• 21:40Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  And all the LA doctors love to sucker money out of people.

• 21:45Speaker 06

  I think so, too.

• 21:46Speaker 01

  They love to sucker money in ways that I haven't seen, because I grew up in New York, and I never saw this.

• 21:51Speaker 06

  No. And also, by the way, when I go on location sometimes, and I like have something that comes up in a medication, or I go and see a doctor, what they, what you end up paying, like, I'm like, the cost, the difference between this and LA, we're suckers.

• 22:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, we're suckers.

• 22:07Speaker 06

  We're absolute suckers. We're just like people, like completely complacent, take my money.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  You could sell me like water for $50, and I would buy it.

• 22:16Speaker 06

  It's all of us.

• 22:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:17Speaker 06

  All of us. Because what if, right? Don't you have that feeling where like, I know it's a scam, but what if?

• 22:23Speaker 01

  Always what if. Always what if.

• 22:25Speaker 06

  This changes my life.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  What if this water is like actually biblical?

• 22:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 22:28Speaker 01

  Like, I will literally buy anything.

• 22:30Speaker 06

  So crazy.

• 22:31Speaker 01

  What's the craziest thing you've ever bought, then you've been like, why did I buy that?

• 22:35Speaker 06

  Oh, my God. A lot of stuff. Let me think.

• 22:41Speaker 06

  I bought a, I bought a, a back, I thought it was a back massager with a heater on it. And I, I bought it and it came, it must have come from London because it had the wrong plug on it. Like, and so I couldn't try it. But I sent it to an electrician to change the plug and it was this whole thing, like getting the American plug put on. I spent so much money putting this fucking plug on it. And then I plugged it in and it doesn't massage. It's just a heating pack. I basically put, I spent a hundred dollars to put a plug on something that I could have done with a water bottle.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  That sucks.

• 23:19Speaker 06

  We're idiots.

• 23:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:20Speaker 06

  Read the small print.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 23:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 23:22Speaker 01

  That happened to, well, one time I bought a, bought a jacket to Canada because I was doing a job in Canada. And I was leaving Monday. I don't know why I bought it on a Friday. So I was like, obviously it wasn't going to get there. I guess I didn't know that tariffs existed. And so I had to ship it back to the US, which cost $2,000.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  What?

• 23:43Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 23:43Speaker 02

  $2,000?

• 23:44Speaker 01

  To ship one jacket from Canada to the US because of tariffs. Isn't that insane? Not only that, then I had to get it tailored.

• 23:52Speaker 06

  Most expensive jacket.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Ever. But you know what? I get compliments on it every time I wear it, so I don't give a fuck.

• 23:59Speaker 06

  It's worth it. It's worth it.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  When I was in New York wearing it this winter, everyone was like, I love your jacket. And I was like, you don't know what that means to me.

• 24:04Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 24:05Speaker 01

  Because I went through hell and back to get this jacket.

• 24:06Speaker 06

  I'm gonna be homeless next week, but at least my jacket looks good.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 24:10Speaker 06

  I love it.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Do you, do you base yourself out of LA almost entirely?

• 24:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, I live here and my, my kids are based and they have schools here and they have their own lives. They're both really, um, they're really into dance and they're really good. They're, they're, uh, they're on a competition team and so it's very, um, I mean, I'm basically like doing this, selling a movie and then I'm an Uber driver, just like driving them from ballet to school, to home, to Chick-fil-A, to whatever they need, you know?

• 24:44Speaker 01

  Right. Do they communicate with you via text message or via Snapchat?

• 24:49Speaker 06

  Okay.

• 24:51Speaker 06

  I am so glad you brought this up because I really hope my 14 year old is listening to this. Why don't you ever fucking text me back? What is that?

• 25:01Speaker 01

  They all use Snapchat. I did not know that.

• 25:04Speaker 06

  So I have to Snapchat?

• 25:05Speaker 01

  I have to Snapchat them. It's what I've learned. My friend's kid is like only like I only I messaged my mom and I was like, what? They only use Snapchat for everything.

• 25:16Speaker 06

  Okay, my 11 year old is still really good. She's very like, she's on it. She's very, I think I'm holding her back. She's like, ready to move into apartment. She can like, she's, she's good to go. I love somebody thought that was silly. But my 14 year old, even I like start threatening her. I'm like, I will take your iPad away. She's still doesn't reply back.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  When's her birthday?

• 25:39Speaker 06

  She's a, she's, she's a January baby, but she's just so aloof. She's like, um, I, my, my, I was on mute. I was like, no, it wasn't like, I can see, I can see that you're, you're on it.

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• 28:28Speaker 01

  I saw you say something very interesting where you're like, AI could recreate acting, but it can never recreate dance.

• 28:35Speaker 06

  I might be wrong on that, just by the way. I don't know the science. There's some tech guy going like, oh, no, we're on that. That's happening next week.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  But do your kids want to be dancers at all? Is that like a goal for them?

• 28:46Speaker 06

  They really love it. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they go into some angle like that. I mean, I was a dancer for a big part of my life and I loved it so much. I mean, I didn't know there was really anything else that I was gonna. I was so in love with performing, but I didn't even know that then. So when I look at them, I can see the love that they have for it right now. But then I'm also, from my own experience, I'm thinking this can branch into so many other things. But I can tell that one of my daughters, she's a natural, she's a natural performer.

• 29:19Speaker 01

  So they must have had a lot of fun at the Tate McRae Show.

• 29:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, she's, she loves the stage. Yeah, she loves the stage. And like, I get so nervous. She's so little, she was so little when she started performing and I would get so nervous for her. And she would just be like pushing people out of the way to get on the stage. Like, she just loves a stage and the girl can perform. Like, she just knows how to perform. My other one really loves like choreo, choreographing dances and she loves the world a lot and she's really great in all these big, bigger group and group numbers, but I don't know, it's too, it's too soon to kind of say where they're gonna end up. As long as, they just need to get a job that pays them.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:02Speaker 06

  Because I don't want to support them for the rest of life. That's like, kind of like my aim. I always say that, like, I need you to be financially independent. I don't want you to rely on another person, including me. Like, I want you to feel what it feels like to buy your first car with your own money that you've earned. That is a feeling that is just unbelievable. So they're always like, so you're not getting me a G-Wagon? I'm like, they don't even make those anymore, okay?

• 30:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, do they make G-Wagons anymore?

• 30:28Speaker 06

  No, they don't make G-Wagons anymore. But they, they're always like, I'm like, you must, I'm gonna drive that one day. I'm like, you're, what job do you have?

• 30:37Speaker 01

  That's an, that's an LA baby.

• 30:39Speaker 06

  Yeah. And I'm not, I told, they know, I'm like, I'm not, first of all, your first car is gonna be a Datsun because you're gonna crash it. You're gonna fuck it up somehow. You're a new driver.

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:49Speaker 06

  So we're not getting like the nice car up front. We need a little bit of experience and we're gonna earn it. But I want them, I want them to, I want them to be independent. I think that's the greatest, like, that's the thing that I, I can take from my own life, my own experience and the power of that. And I, and I always kind of remind them to kind of think that way.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  Are you gonna have them get like summer jobs and?

• 31:17Speaker 06

  Yes. Yeah. Every time we go to Starbucks, I'm like, look at this. Do you see the, how friendly? Do you see how friendly? You have to be that friendly every morning at 6:00 AM. Like, start getting ready for it. Yeah. I mean, I, that's, I feel like-

• 31:34Speaker 06

  You just said it like LA babies. There's a bubble here and.

• 31:38Speaker 01

  It's different than New York. Both are kind of very coastal elite, but there's a less of a bubble in New York. I think because you have more access to like what the world is like in LA. You can really never leave.

• 31:51Speaker 06

  Did you have a, did you have a job as a youngster in New York?

• 31:54Speaker 01

  Many, many jobs.

• 31:55Speaker 06

  What did you have?

• 31:56Speaker 01

  I was a babysitter. I was, I interned a lot. I did a lot of internships. I interned at a magazine. I interned at a public relations firm. I interned at, oh God, I'm like forgetting. I interned for a city councilwoman. Yeah, it was, it was cool. It was like nice to make my own money.

• 32:17Speaker 06

  And was it because your parents kind of asked you, they were, did they, were they?

• 32:21Speaker 01

  My mom was strict as a.

• 32:23Speaker 06

  Oh, so okay, I'm doing the right thing?

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, she was like, you don't like, cause I went to a private school where a lot of my friends had all their parents' money to spend. But my parents gave me like 20 bucks a week and were like, figure it out, kind of. So if I wanted a fake ID, which I did, I had to save up and I would save it in my little like, do you remember those like radio things? And you would put CDs in them?

• 32:49Speaker 06

  Oh, yes. I know what you're talking about. Yes. Yeah.

• 32:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. And I would put all my money in there. Um, and so I had to work, I babysat a lot.

• 32:56Speaker 06

  That's just such a great job.

• 32:58Speaker 01

  It's the, it's babysitting is the ultimate life hack. They will overpay you.

• 33:03Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  It's like, all you do is sit there.

• 33:07Speaker 06

  Do you know why?

• 33:09Speaker 01

  Why?

• 33:09Speaker 06

  Cause they're like, just give me a break.

• 33:10Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:11Speaker 06

  Just please take my kids, take my kids and give me a break.

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I was a big, I was a big babysat babysitter. I babysat a bunch of kids and it like funded my way through high school.

• 33:20Speaker 06

  I, I keep telling my kids that too. I'm like, this is a great way to start.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  It is.

• 33:25Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 33:25Speaker 01

  It's harder here though, because they need their license to drive.

• 33:28Speaker 06

  Got it. But like, I'd be okay with driving them if they actually like did the job. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna be that mean. But I just, I want, yeah, I really, I want to encourage them because I also feel, which isn't fair on them because they didn't ask for this, but unfortunately I'm their mom and I think everybody is just waiting for them to be assholes and self-centered and kind of expect things to come their way, you know? And so I, I, I want to try and prepare them as much for that, that that is gonna happen. And so they, they, they have to start thinking about like. There's hard work around things like you'll have to earn a lot of stuff in life just in general, but it's gonna maybe be twice as hard for you guys.

• 34:10Speaker 01

  Right.

• 34:10Speaker 06

  You know?

• 34:10Speaker 01

  And in order how to like block out the noise as well.

• 34:12Speaker 06

  Yes, exactly. But also, I think all of those things give you purpose as a young person. And there's nothing like independence when you're a young person. Like when I remember when I left at 16 and I was like, holy shit, like, I have to cook my dinner tonight. Like, I have to make sure my laundry is done. Like, I had to do all of it. But I loved it, you know?

• 34:35Speaker 01

  How did you convince your mom to let you leave at 16? Was it just a different time or?

• 34:38Speaker 06

  My mom was the one who pushed me out of the house, actually. There was a lot going on in South Africa at the time. And I had an opportunity to go and try something. And she really, she really was the one who was like, go, you should go and try this. You don't want to be on your deathbed and wonder what this would have been like if I didn't do it. So she was really my encouragement. I mean, she was the one that put it together that I should go try and be an actor. I wasn't the one that did that.

• 35:09Speaker 01

  Didn't she come to New York and was like, you're either coming home or you're doing acting?

• 35:14Speaker 06

  Yeah, not quite as articulate as that.

• 35:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:18Speaker 06

  But something like that, yes.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  And do you, was it, do you remember there was a moment when you were auditioning? And you, there was like, where you're like, okay, this could actually happen?

• 35:28Speaker 06

  Yeah, I mean, I feel like at 19, you just think like, I did, I was like, I'm gonna go get this job today. Like, I was just like so determined. I never kind of willy nillyed anything, always prepared. I didn't get everything, but I, I definitely went in with intention of like, I'm getting this job today. But I think that's my personality is very much like, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do it really well. I'm not gonna fuck around. Cause then I just won't do it.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  Right, that's, yeah.

• 35:57Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:59Speaker 06

  When did you come here? How old were you when you came here?

• 36:01Speaker 01

  I was born here. I was born, but I moved when I was two. And then I grew up around, I grew up in New York. I lived in Brooklyn for a little and then Westchester. And then I grew up mainly in Washington Heights in the city. And then I came back here when I was 18 for USC. And then my parents kind of followed suit during COVID. Cause during COVID, everything was just like, what the fuck is going on? And now I've been out here ever since. I love it here.

• 36:26Speaker 06

  Do you?

• 36:27Speaker 01

  But I don't drive, so.

• 36:29Speaker 06

  Por qu?

• 36:32Speaker 01

  Cause I will crash.

• 36:34Speaker 06

  Well, that's if you don't learn.

• 36:36Speaker 01

  My dad is like, you will crash the car. Like this is like, I'm like a true New York City kid, like I can't do it.

• 36:44Speaker 06

  Oh, my God.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  I know, I'm terrified.

• 36:46Speaker 06

  I have a friend like that.

• 36:48Speaker 01

  I'm terrified.

• 36:49Speaker 06

  She's, I was, she's like, I don't have a license. I'm like, how do you not know how to drive a car? I was like eight years old.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  No way.

• 36:56Speaker 06

  Driving a tra- I grew up on a farm, yeah. Yeah, so it's just like every eight year old knows how to drive some semi truck or something.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  Yeah. Wow.

• 37:07Speaker 06

  Yeah, but that's interesting. It's like, it's interesting how we all grow up and we're kind of, we are what are like our circumstances, what, what we're surrounded in, like that's makes sense. Like you don't have to drive in New York.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  And I'm lucky now because of Uber, but if Uber didn't exist, I mean, it really like clocked to me the other day when I was with my brother and he was like, I just got my first car. And I was like, what? He's 22 and I was like, oh my God, I can't do this.

• 37:32Speaker 06

  So he's in.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  He's in, he can drive, he can do it all.

• 37:35Speaker 06

  And what your dad's like, he's not gonna crash.

• 37:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:38Speaker 06

  But you.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think my dad is like, I'm like the one that, the last one that'll listen to him. So he's like, just please don't get behind a wheel.

• 37:45Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  I'm also so addicted to my phone. So like, I know, like, I just can't.

• 37:49Speaker 06

  That's good that you know your shortcomings.

• 37:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 37:53Speaker 06

  I, I do feel like, if anything, I want to encourage my kids to just take Uber. You know, it's like, I, I think truly, truly, hands down, the most scary thing for me is imagining my kids driving or being in a car with another 17, 18 year old driving. I can't think of anything more dangerous, more scary, inexperienced. It's not about what they're gonna do. It's not knowing what the other guy's gonna do. I think cars are truly my greatest fear.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  They're scary.

• 38:22Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 38:22Speaker 01

  They're scary.

• 38:23Speaker 06

  Much, much prefer them to just take Ubers.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 38:26Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 38:27Speaker 01

  I like walking. I like everywhere I can possibly walk, I will walk.

• 38:31Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  It's like the one thing, walking and listening to music is like my one thing that reminds me of New York.

• 38:36Speaker 06

  Yeah, that makes sense. So do you walk to Beverly Hills?

• 38:41Speaker 01

  I Uber. What do you?

• 38:44Speaker 06

  Do you Uber or Lyft?

• 38:45Speaker 01

  I Uber.

• 38:46Speaker 06

  Yeah, what is that? Why do we all Uber and not Lyft?

• 38:49Speaker 01

  It's kind of like Apple versus PC.

• 38:51Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 38:52Speaker 01

  It's like, I just use an Apple computer.

• 38:54Speaker 06

  Got it. Have you ever, have you ever lifted?

• 38:57Speaker 01

  Like lifted?

• 38:58Speaker 06

  Like been in a lift?

• 39:00Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, of course. I thought you were like lifted the gym. I was like, well, yes.

• 39:04Speaker 06

  So do you remember your Lyft ride versus your Uber ride? Were they different?

• 39:07Speaker 01

  I remember the interface, if that's what it's called, of Uber just being a tad more simple for me.

• 39:13Speaker 06

  Me too.

• 39:14Speaker 01

  I just remember it being a tad more simple.

• 39:16Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 39:17Speaker 01

  And I liked it. It just felt better.

• 39:19Speaker 06

  Yes.

• 39:20Speaker 01

  You know?

• 39:21Speaker 06

  Do you know that my friend took an Uber the other day and she took a photo and she sent it to me? There was a tennis shoe underneath the front seat, just a woman's tennis shoe, just one. And I was like, you should probably check the trunk. It was really, really weird.

• 39:39Speaker 01

  That is creepy. I've had some creepy, creepy, creepy Uber's.

• 39:42Speaker 06

  Just a small size five tennis shoe.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Did she check the trunk?

• 39:47Speaker 06

  No, she, I, I don't know what she ended up doing, but I was like, this is actually serious. This is actually not a joke. Like, I'm actually worried for you. You have to like text me when you're out of the car.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  Oh, God. One time I got dropped off on the side of the road.

• 39:58Speaker 06

  What?

• 39:59Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 39:59Speaker 06

  They kicked you out?

• 40:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. I mean, you can imagine. Like, he was like, you are so goddamn annoying. Like, gas car.

• 40:06Speaker 06

  You were talking too much?

• 40:07Speaker 01

  Well, I said, could you turn the music up a little? He pulled up, he said, just get out.

• 40:10Speaker 06

  Oh, just one thing. That was it?

• 40:12Speaker 01

  And I was like, he must have had a bad day.

• 40:14Speaker 06

  Oh, that's funny.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  And then one time, I used to like, I used to take every, like, there used to be, like, all these different apps for rides. I'd be like, five dollar rides across the city of Manhattan as long, whatever. Like, there used to be all these different things. And I remember taking one and it took me to 200 and something street instead of 181st Street. And it was 2:00 AM and my phone was at 1%. And I remember, I called an Uber in a pinch and it, it really showed up for me.

• 40:41Speaker 06

  Wow.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  So I'm always Uber over Lyft.

• 40:44Speaker 06

  I get it.

• 40:45Speaker 01

  What are you watching on TV right now?

• 40:47Speaker 06

  I'm not, I'm not watching anything great. I'm watching 90 Day Fiance, so.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  Oh, really? Are you a Housewives person?

• 40:53Speaker 06

  Yes, I am.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  Are you watching Rhode Island?

• 40:55Speaker 06

  Yeah. I haven't started Rhode Island. Is it amazing?

• 40:58Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 40:59Speaker 06

  No, really?

• 41:00Speaker 01

  Yes, it's early Salt Lake.

• 41:01Speaker 06

  Oh, I know what I'm doing tonight.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. There's only four episodes out. It's fantastic.

• 41:05Speaker 06

  You just changed my life.

• 41:10Speaker 01

  Okay, so we're gonna do the tell me what's wrongs really quickly. I'm in love with my brother's oldest, closest friend. I always used to joke around saying I'm gonna marry him, but now I have a boyfriend who's been really great. We've been dating for a bit, but my brother's best friend, best man too, kind of just told me at my brother's wedding, the feeling between us is mutual. I'm like freaking out. It's been a couple of days and I haven't seen him since. What do I do?

• 41:32Speaker 06

  I have so many questions.

• 41:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, that is oftentimes the case.

• 41:39Speaker 06

  Well, I think the simple answer is that if you're into him and he's into you, then you should probably pursue it because it sounds to me like the boyfriend is a nice guy.

• 41:51Speaker 06

  Not much more.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:53Speaker 06

  Nice guys are good, but if you have a crush on somebody else and there's chemistry and they are reciprocating, then you should probably give that a shot. I mean, you can break up with a nice guy.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  I think so too. And I think it hurts to be, it hurts them as well if you're just in the relationship for convenience.

• 42:11Speaker 06

  And it's not gonna go away.

• 42:13Speaker 01

  No, never.

• 42:13Speaker 06

  It's not gonna change.

• 42:15Speaker 01

  Exactly. You're always gonna be wondering what if.

• 42:17Speaker 06

  Yeah, exactly.

• 42:18Speaker 01

  So, yeah, if I had a crush on someone for 10 years and they told me that they liked me back, I would dump whoever was in front of me.

• 42:23Speaker 06

  Yeah, and by the way, that's like a feat. 10 years is a long time and you still give a shit?

• 42:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 42:27Speaker 06

  You should probably do it.

• 42:28Speaker 01

  Yeah. I'm having a hard time knowing-

• 42:31Speaker 06

  The boyfriend's like, "Fuck you."

• 42:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, I know. I literally, like because of therapists, my relationship ended. I'm having a hard time knowing how to end a friendship that hasn't really even started. There's a girl I've hung out with a couple of times now who I'm just not interested in developing a friendship with. So... But she keeps on asking me to hang out with these exhausting plans. It feels more like work than it needs to be. Than it needs to be. But the thing is, we're both in the theater and dance scenes in my city and we have an upcoming project we're both working on, so I don't wanna ghost her or be unintentionally rude.

• 43:04Speaker 06

  That's actually a really hard problem.

• 43:06Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:08Speaker 06

  Because when you started reading, I was like, don't fucking reply.

• 43:12Speaker 01

  Right.

• 43:12Speaker 06

  But that's tricky because yeah, that's a real, that's actually a conundrum. As they say in the olden days.

• 43:20Speaker 01

  I don't know how to, how would you go about that?

• 43:23Speaker 06

  That's, that takes some massaging. I understand why it's a complicated issue for her. I would, here's the thing, you can manage it, but it's work. That's the only annoying thing, right? It's like you can, you can manage it, you can massage it, you can kind of like,

• 43:41Speaker 06

  let her know that you're maybe more of a short person. So you don't get all wordy with it. You're just like, can't do it tonight. Just be short with it, right? But you're not mean and you're not ignoring her, but just like, can't do it tonight. Don't even get into it. Don't over explain why.

• 43:56Speaker 06

  And hopefully she'll get the message because you're not being flowery about it, but you're also not ignoring her.

• 44:01Speaker 01

  Right.

• 44:01Speaker 06

  Right?

• 44:02Speaker 01

  And then if she's like, well, you didn't.

• 44:04Speaker 06

  Yeah, just be like, I'm crazy right now.

• 44:06Speaker 01

  Yeah. Just set your boundaries now.

• 44:08Speaker 06

  I'm gonna be crazy for the next 10 years, actually.

• 44:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, for forever, actually.

• 44:12Speaker 06

  I'm gonna be really busy.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  My boyfriend of three years told me last night that he wants to, oh my God.

• 44:19Speaker 06

  Oh.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  That he wants to help me lose weight and be healthier because he wants to marry someone who is fit and cares about their health. I think I should be furious, but these align with my goals too. For reference, I've gained some comfortable weight since we started dating. Should I take that from him or is this tough love?

• 44:32Speaker 06

  No, fuck no. Like, I wanna murder this guy.

• 44:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's outrageous.

• 44:38Speaker 06

  That's not, and three, she's been with him for three years and he's never shown any signs of like, hey, baby, uh, those pants look tight. Like, he's never done that?

• 44:45Speaker 01

  That's outrageous. I would break up immediately.

• 44:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, this guy is no good. Honestly, it's just, that's not good. And even if they align with your wants and needs and ideas, like, that should be on you. That's your aspiration. Nobody who loves you should ever, ever say anything about the way you look and how that should be improved. Like, I just, I don't have a friend like that in my life. Sometimes I kind of wish I do because I look back at photos. I'm like, does anybody who loved me, why did you not tell me I shouldn't wear that?

• 45:16Speaker 01

  I don't think I've ever seen a photo of you where you look bad, ever.

• 45:19Speaker 06

  That's very sweet, but I've had some questionable hair choices. But no, this, what's her name?

• 45:25Speaker 01

  That we don't know.

• 45:26Speaker 06

  Oh, we don't know. Susan, listen to me. Drop this motherfucker.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  Drop him.

• 45:32Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Drop him.

• 45:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 45:34Speaker 01

  I got bored at work and went snooping through messages between my boss and a potential new hire on the phone we have at work and found out my boss is offering $10 an hour more to this new hire for the same position I'm working in and this person has less experience and I've been here for two years. Help, what do I do? I feel like I can't say anything because I shouldn't have gone through the text messages.

• 45:55Speaker 06

  That sucks because you don't want to know that, right? And you want to feel valued at your job and that's probably something now that's going to be really hard to kind of forget about. I think that's always going to be in the foreground.

• 46:08Speaker 06

  But don't fucking do shit like that.

• 46:11Speaker 01

  Like, don't go through someone else. Yeah.

• 46:13Speaker 06

  Don't do it. Like, you're gonna find something you don't like. You know, it's like girls are going through the, like, either break up or just don't, don't do shit like that. You know, you're gonna find something that's gonna just stay in your head, no matter how small or big it is. It doesn't need to be like a big thing, but like, don't go through people's shit.

• 46:31Speaker 01

  I'm so against it as well. I did it once when I was 18 and I was like, I'm just, I'm never doing this again. There's no rhyme or reason. Like, I don't want someone going through my shit.

• 46:41Speaker 06

  But there's also no good experience because you're going to find out something that's not going to sit well with you.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  Agreed.

• 46:48Speaker 06

  It's not good. But yeah, this is a tricky one. I don't know. You're partly to blame for your own problem here. And it's probably not going to go away. I don't know. I don't know. What do you think she should do?

• 46:59Speaker 01

  If I were her, I would be looking for other jobs on the side and leave once I've found an offer that I'm comfortable accepting.

• 47:09Speaker 06

  And learn how to not snoot.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  And learn never to go through my boss's phone ever again.

• 47:12Speaker 06

  Yeah. Maybe start with that.

• 47:14Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 47:15Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  Well, Charlize, what did we learn today?

• 47:19Speaker 06

  Um, what did we learn? We learned we like Uber more than Lyft.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  We learned that you're gonna watch our Housewives.

• 47:26Speaker 06

  There goes my Lyft campaign.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Is it bad? I kind of thought the same thing. I was like, wait.

• 47:31Speaker 06

  We love Lyft.

• 47:34Speaker 06

  We can editorialize this to work in your favor.

• 47:37Speaker 01

  We learned that you are a Housewives fan.

• 47:38Speaker 06

  Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm a massive. Somebody asked me yesterday, if you had to do a TED Talk right now, like, what's the subject that you feel like you could really confidently talk? I was like, Housewives. I can talk. I can do about Housewives.

• 47:50Speaker 01

  Do you like, you like Salt Lake, I assume?

• 47:51Speaker 06

  I do. I love, yeah. Salt Lake is good. I really love Potomac as well.

• 47:56Speaker 01

  Who's your favorite on Salt Lake?

• 47:58Speaker 06

  I like them all, but I mean, if I was like gonna hang out Heather, like I'd love to like hang out with Heather. But then I just love all the drama.

• 48:07Speaker 01

  I am obsessed with Lisa Barlow.

• 48:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, I know. She's pretty amazing.

• 48:11Speaker 01

  Like she wasn't in one episode, they mentioned her, what, 50 times?

• 48:14Speaker 06

  Yeah. No, she starts, she starts a lot of shit.

• 48:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 48:18Speaker 06

  She starts a lot of shit.

• 48:18Speaker 01

  They know their job on that show and for that I appreciate it.

• 48:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, I just love all the hair, always touching her hair.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's always, always.

• 48:26Speaker 06

  Always touching her hair. It's so funny.

• 48:28Speaker 01

  And I love, I, at first I didn't really care and now I really love Angie.

• 48:34Speaker 06

  Oh, yes, you have to. I mean, come on. She comes out of nowhere. Which is your favorite one, Salt Lake?

• 48:40Speaker 01

  Lisa, yeah, and Salt Lake.

• 48:41Speaker 06

  Salt Lake is your favorite?

• 48:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, but Rhode Island is giving early Salt Lake. I'm telling you right now.

• 48:45Speaker 06

  Excitement about it.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  It is so good of me and someone I work with, Manny, have been talking about it all day.

• 48:52Speaker 06

  I saw it as I was scrolling, cause I, Friday is this Beverly Hills, so I was, you know, searching for that one. And I saw it and I was like, hmm, I don't know. Like, I'm always suspicious of a new Housewives. I'm like, cause Dubai didn't quite work.

• 49:07Speaker 01

  Well, that like.

• 49:09Speaker 06

  Vancouver, really? No, it's Canada. They're all nice. You can't like do a Housewives in Vancouver.

• 49:15Speaker 01

  The reason Rhode Island works is cause.

• 49:16Speaker 06

  Oh, I'm so sorry.

• 49:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 49:19Speaker 06

  Apologizing to each other constantly.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  The reason Rhode Island works is because they could have gone two ways. They could have gone like very high end women who don't want to share anything.

• 49:28Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 49:29Speaker 01

  Or they could have gone with women who are like, this is my moment to make it on reality television. I will reveal all. And that's what they went with. And it worked.

• 49:38Speaker 06

  Mic drop. Let's go. Let's cut this bitch. I gotta go.

• 49:41Speaker 01

  Well, Charlize, thank you so much for coming on.

• 49:43Speaker 06

  Thank you. I really appreciate this. Thank you. This is so fun, really fun.

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Yes, I'm glad, I'm glad you had a good time too.

• 49:48Speaker 06

  Thank you. Bye pussies.

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