Session 109: Rob Rausch

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• 0:42Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapist. Tonight we have on Rob Rausch. But first for a special intro, we have Peyton Perther.

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  Boy, oh, boy.

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  How are you doing, girl?

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  I mean, am I ever well?

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  For a moment you were.

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  I feel like I'm constantly losing the fucking plot.

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  This weekend was bad.

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  Every time I'm on Therapist, something like groundbreakingly awful is going on in my personal life. I was just, you guys, like, I don't even know how to put it.

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  Dogged.

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  I was disrespected.

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  Peyton and I have a lot of alone time this week together, so.

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  Also, whenever Jake and I are left alone, it is just the rogiest, most outrageous thing ever. Jake and I, like, when we are alone and we've only had a handful of.

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  We have baby weekend.

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  Nights out alone and the world.

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  Shifts.

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  Stops.

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  It stops and shifts.

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  It stops and shifts.

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  I don't even know if that's the same thing, but it does.

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  And we're coming up on one of those.

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  A man came to the city. A man that not, I wouldn't say he disrespected her in the past, but I would say things didn't end the way you would have liked them to.

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  Right.

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  You were ghosted.

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  Like, kind of.

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  And Peyton, when this happened, went mute for three days.

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  I didn't speak.

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  She sat in the corner of our house, silent.

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  Silent, waiting for him to text me.

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  He didn't.

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  And he didn't. And then I texted him and he like barely replied.

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  So then, how did this pick back? Oh.

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  Hi, it was all my fault.

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  Yeah, it was.

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  But this, the OG crash out was Jay Shetty was on the podcast and I-

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  And Peyton sat barefoot?

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  Barefoot. I was literally grounding myself, bare feet on the hardwood floor and I was like, I need a moment of your time alone and you need to-

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  To guide me.

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  To do something.

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  Yeah, the camera stopped rolling because I had to go P and P and went to him and said, please help me.

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  I was in desperate need. So basically this man comes back to the city and-

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  Why does he come? Like, let's-

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  I DM'd him. Like, oh my gosh. God forbid a bitch is moving her thumbs.

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  She said, she said, she said she sent him a meme she found. She looks at me yesterday. She goes, bitch, I searched for it.

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  I lied to everyone and I said it was on like my, you know, when you're scrolling Instagram and it's suggested.

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  An explore page?

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  No, no, no. Like, you know, when your feed's done, like you've done the, you've done the damn thing. Your feed is over. It's like all suggested. I was like, oh yeah, like screen rant was suggested. No, it wasn't.

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  Right, screen rant.

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  Screen rant.

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  So she sent him a DM and then he was like, I'm gonna come to New York this weekend. He was giving you everything.

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  Okay, you need to validate me because I also, the worst part about this, and I had therapy this morning and last week, I just did not want to hear a damn thing she said. And like, sometimes that's okay. And I get on this morning and she's like- And I was like, rough weekend. She goes, yeah, I can only imagine how upset you are. But she was like, well, you know how we spoke last week and you told me that you messaged him and lied to all of your friends about it? I was like,

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  yeah. She was like, well, that means you knew something bad was gonna happen. I was like, no, I didn't.

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  You didn't, you didn't. You just, as we said, Peyton was moving in silence.

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  And I honestly was just like, I moved to New York. I feel like it's gonna go my way and it didn't, which is fine.

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  He basically used Peyton as a Yelp account.

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  And this has happened to me before too, which is like, is so, do I give like TripAdvisor?

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  Do I give Google? Because the amount of men who text me and they're like, there was this guy a few months, like last month, and he was like, hey, like, where should I go on vacation? I was like, um,

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  I was just in Tulum and Cabo. He goes, great. I'm gonna go to Cabo.

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  Back to your crash out.

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  Back to my crash out. And I really, really, really want to just,

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  moment of silence for this.

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  Yeah, let's all take a moment of silence, ready?

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  Moment of silence for this.

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  Should I just like say what happened?

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  Let's just like start from start to finish.

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  So basically what occurred is this man is texting me like, I have dinner at this time and then, come, me and my friends got a table at the club I recommended. He's like, taking all your recommendations. Come, meet us after dinner. I'm like, honestly, perfect. He tells me he's going to the bathroom. He never came back.

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  I know. You're like, that's really bad. It's really bad. It's really bad. There is no way to like sugarcoat it. It's really bad.

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  And he, Peyton texted him, did you just leave?

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  No response.

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  No response.

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  No, he texts her the next day, "What are you doing today?" Probably for Rex.

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  I wish you guys could see Louise's face.

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  I'm on the phone with Payton, and I've never heard her like this. There's only been one instance where she's cried in my arms on the way back from the club.

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  Hi, shocker, about another man.

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  Yeah.

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  She is on the phone, her voice is like breaking. And I'm like, I've never heard this before. Like, her voice is like legitimately breaking.

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  Also, you know it's bad when you wake up and you're sober and it's just like...

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  You're still crying.

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  Screaming tears.

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  She cried for 15 hours straight.

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  I was really fucking sad, honestly. I just like, even if this was a random man I had never met, it's a really horrible feeling.

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  It's the worst feeling. You feel so gross.

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  Also, I just like felt like shit about myself, honestly. And I felt very rejected. And I don't think I was ready to feel that way, since I was also coming down from being fucking fouled left, right, and center again.

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  And like, it just made it 10 times worse.

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  So then I go to lunch, and I am quite literally unwell. It's Saturday. The sun is shining, but I am not. Like, I am being just like the absolute worst vibe. And you know, I am usually like, the one person that like doesn't get in like a bad vibe.

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  You're always like, "It's Saturday, we're drinking, let's have fun."

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  And I'm always like, "You know what? You guys like, life rocks. Like, let's just like be..." It takes a lot for me to be a bad vibe, so...

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  Me being in this state is really bad. I get home from lunch, I will say, like, I did have a thought go through my head, like, Jake has not checked up on me nearly enough.

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  I totally thought, I totally thought that, and I was like, "Hmm, noted, fucking asshole." But then, I go back to my apartment, and I open my elevator, and there's flowers on the ground. My first thought is, "Are they from him?" And then...

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  But then they weren't from Jake and Julia. And then the note was really funny, but when I saw the flowers, I started crying because I was like, wow, I really needed this. And then the note was really funny. Also, like, not that anyone needed more perspective, like, I'm sure everyone can really just understand and see clear as day how down bad I was. I walked into a crystal shop and said, basically, like, I need an exorcism.

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  And they, what did they give you? They gave you a crystal?

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  They gave me a little amethyst mushroom and said, this will protect you. And I have been holding it ever since.

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  You know what? You tried.

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  I tried.

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  You tried.

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  And that's fine.

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  That's fine.

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  But I also feel like there's something going on. Well, obviously Mercury's in retrograde, but there's something really about this weekend. Every single girl I encountered, from Friday to Sunday, whether it was at lunch, out, a friend I was meeting for a drink, every single girl was like, I cried myself to sleep last night. I was like, what? Me too. Damn.

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  Um, what else should we talk about? God, we could just talk for hours on end, huh?

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  Hours on end. Yap, yap, yap.

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  Oh, tonight, I have new cauches.

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  The bunnies, the foam bunnies with the little, like, um,

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  Oh.

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  Like jelly.

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  Never had, and I will be having.

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  You'll sleep over, bring a sleepover bag?

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  Yes.

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  Oh, can I invite you to something while we're on air right now?

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  Yes.

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  Sweets and Treats Snack Expo in Las Vegas in May. I will fly you out. We'll go together. We'll stay at the win. We'll go clubbing and we'll go eat cauches all day.

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  I mean, yes, I love Vegas. There is no one who loves Vegas more than I do.

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  Last time, me, Peyton, Julia, Louise, 7:00 AM, smoking cigarettes outside, the darkest hours of my life. But honestly, it was beautiful.

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  It was so fun.

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  It was so fun.

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  That was like a really good morning. Also, some Vegas nights, they're really hit or miss. They're either like

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  That was a hit.

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  Euphoric.

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  That was the best. First of all, and you want to know why it was the best night of our lives? Alice was on amazing forum.

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  Alice was being so fun. Everyone was just having like the best night ever. And it was just like, Everything was going right.

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  I will say when Alice didn't get on the bus, that's when I started to struggle.

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  But that was the next day.

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  How was the tour bus ride back? Was it a little treacherous?

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  Your bed.

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  So comfy.

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  Jake has like a 14 inch mattress topper and a 19 inch duvet.

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  Yeah, it's pretty sick. Oh, my God, you're gonna die from my new sheets in my New York apartment.

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  Shut up!

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  The news is in. Check your phone.

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  What?

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  Give me my phone.

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  Approved.

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  Seriously? Seriously?

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  Shut up!

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  When can we start moving in?

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  Get your bags and run, she said. I said, when can we get in?

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  Oh, my God, I'm so excited.

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  Hi, Jake's the resident. My day is made.

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  Wow, that was beautiful, you guys.

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  Beautiful. I can't believe we got that on camera.

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  I know.

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  Oh, I'm so happy.

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  I'm so excited. I'm still an LA boy. I'm LA through and through.

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  Don't get it twisted.

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  Do not get it twisted. I'm an LA man, okay? I will spend most of my time in LA. Sorry.

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  Not happening.

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  Wow. And on that note.

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  Wow.

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  Enjoy tonight's episode with Rob Rausch. He's amazing. He's hot.

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  As fuck.

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  He's a traitor. He is lovely. And I am about to go buy a Birkin with him for Maura.

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  I love you, Pay.

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  I love you. I've missed you so much.

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  I missed you more. Okay, let's go get lunch and see my new apartment.

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  Thank fucking God.

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  Okay, I love you. Say bye, pussies.

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  Bye, pussies. Missed you.

• 12:36Speaker 01

  Hi, pussies. Welcome back to Therapists. Today, we have on the most strategic,

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  thoughtful, and conniving traitor of all time, Rob Rausch.

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  Hello, Jake.

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  Hi. Are you shy?

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  Yes.

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  Oh, okay.

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  I like your shoes.

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  Thank you so much.

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  Tell me, how are you? How are you doing?

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  I'm good. I'm kinda sleepy.

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  You're sleepy? Well, you've, they've been working you like a dog.

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  They have.

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  I know. Are you upset to be here?

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  No, no. I was happy to do this. I've been wanting to do this for a while.

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  I know. We've been talking about it, since we saw each other at the pickleball Celsius classic.

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  Yes, you did so good.

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  No, I didn't. Did you win that?

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  I didn't play. You were trying to get me to take your spot.

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  Oh.

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  I was like, no, it's all you.

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  Okay, so how, like, tell me, everything. Like, I watched that final roundtable and I was like... I was really gagged. Like, that was like really good television.

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  Yeah, it was crazy, right?

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  It's you, Tara, Maura, and Eric.

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  That's right.

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  What was your plan going in?

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  My plan going in to that fire pit was to vote out Tara and then Eric and then win the game.

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  Really?

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  Yeah.

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  Like, yeah, like...

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  Yeah, at that point, yeah.

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  Like, you weren't like, you weren't like, Eric, it's us?

• 14:09Speaker 04

  No, I was like that, but then when Maura like came to me and she was like, "Rob, you have to promise to get Eric out of the game."

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  I think, yeah.

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  And I was like, I was like, nah, look at you.

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  I mean, it was the opportunity of a lifetime.

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  Exactly. It's exactly what it was.

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  It was like, well, what, are you gonna buy her a Birkin?

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  I am. I'm getting it today, actually. Do you wanna come with me?

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  Really?

• 14:31Speaker 04

  Okay. I, you could probably go.

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  Where are you getting the Birkin?

• 14:34Speaker 04

  Madison Fifth Avenue Couture.

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  Are you going to Hermes?

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  It's Couture Store, I think. Ah, shit, I should probably know this.

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  Are you gonna go after this?

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  I think at 2:30.

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  Okay, would you know what Birkin you're getting, Maura?

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  Yeah, it's a size 30 burgundy with gold accents.

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  Good for, and what a man of his word.

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  Right, she deserves it.

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  She deserves it.

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  Like, in my opinion, she was the best traitor.

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  I don't think so.

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  She was. She was, she was on my team the whole time. If anyone brought my name up, she would like snap at them. Like, Rob's not a traitor.

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  But she was a faithful.

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  But she was a traitor. She just didn't know. She was a secret traitor. She was like a double secret traitor.

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  Okay, so tell me what you think the biggest mistakes that people made in the show were, because I can, I know my biggest mistake. When Candace gave her throwaway vote for you.

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  Yeah.

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  Like, at that point, were you like Candace, we're still in this together, or were you like, I'm done with you? Because she was so defensive of Lisa.

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  Uh, I, I had, the first time she voted for me, I had a little bit of hope. Like, I was upset about it, but then when we got to the turret, and it was like, she lying to me, I'm lying to him. Because we both knew shit. Like, it was like, if we were not telling each other, I was like, it's over. I was like, there's no trust here in this turret.

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  Well, because you know housewives don't go against housewives.

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  I know that now.

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  Uh huh. You were so, did anyone here watch the show?

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  Okay, so I've never seen traitors before, but now that I have seen it, do you think I would be a good traitor? Or do you think I would be a better faithful?

• 16:14Speaker 04

  I don't know. I think it depends on like, can you, can you remain cool under pressure?

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  Nope.

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  Not at all, really?

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  Nope.

• 16:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, you'd be a bad traitor.

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  Like, you really, like, kept it down. Like, I, and it just, it ate me alive. Everyone was like, and there's no way it's Rob. Like, behind the scenes, did you watch the show?

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  I did, I watched it, because I didn't tell any of my family or friends what happened. So it was so fun to like, watch them watch it.

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  So would you just be like, you have to watch? They weren't like, so you, you gonna tell your family that you won?

• 16:47Speaker 04

  They all assumed I won, but

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  Okay.

• 16:49Speaker 04

  They didn't know how, so they were trying to watch. But yeah, uh, my sister accidentally found out. She read an email. She helps me with like, business stuff.

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  Got it.

• 16:56Speaker 04

  So she accidentally found out, but no one else knew. They didn't want to know.

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  How many siblings do you have?

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  I have two older sisters and a younger brother.

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  Whom is gay?

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  He is gay.

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  I had no idea.

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  Wow, so you're like, you know?

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  Ally.

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  Ally, yeah. Would you ever go to the pride parade?

• 17:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, if my brother wanted me to go with him, but I feel like...

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  Would you wear rainbow overalls?

• 17:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, if I was at a pride parade, yeah.

• 17:23Speaker 01

  Okay, okay. So on the show, does anyone ever like, hook up?

• 17:27Speaker 04

  No, I mean, you can't really, you know, it's very like, uh, once we're off camera, it's like lockdown, like, you can't talk to anyone.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Oh, really? Okay, so but you-

• 17:38Speaker 04

  Well, not really supposed to talk about that. It's like Disney World. Don't talk about what happens behind the animatronics.

• 17:44Speaker 01

  What do you think behind, happens behind Disney World?

• 17:47Speaker 04

  Well, it's just a bunch of like, machinery and stuff that makes everything move, right? Hydraulics and whatnot.

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  You think it's like the backrooms?

• 17:56Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like the back, what, is that something? I feel like that's something, I don't know what that is.

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  Um, it's a cultural reference that I just referenced, that I am also not sure what it is. I think it's just like satanic underworlds.

• 18:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it's not like that, no.

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  Do you like, do you, do you still live in Alabama?

• 18:15Speaker 04

  I do, I do.

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  Roll tide.

• 18:17Speaker 04

  Roll tide, yeah.

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  Roll tide. We have a Bama girl in here, raise your hand.

• 18:21Speaker 04

  Roll tide, Tuscaloosa.

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  Tuscaloosa, what's the taco place? Taco? Taco Mama, you go to Taco Mama?

• 18:29Speaker 04

  It's not my favorite. I've been, honestly.

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  You know what, thank you so much. We were in Alabama for one day, and she's like, you gotta go to Taco Mama, you gotta go to Taco Mama. I'm looking up the reviews of Taco Mama, and everyone's like, I shit my pants. I, it's nostalgic.

• 18:44Speaker 04

  It's the, it's the pitcher of margarita. That's like the, it though.

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  But what do we say? I hate fun.

• 18:52Speaker 04

  Well, well-

• 18:52Speaker 01

  You wanna go out? How long are you in the city for?

• 18:54Speaker 04

  I'm here till tomorrow. Tonight's my last night.

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  Should we go out?

• 19:00Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Really?

• 19:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'd go out with you.

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  Really?

• 19:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

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  I feel like we'd have the best time.

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  I think so, dude.

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  Oh my God, I love you.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  Okay, so what's the difference between that you that you found on Traders versus Love Island?

• 19:16Speaker 04

  Uh.

• 19:17Speaker 01

  Like with Love Island?

• 19:18Speaker 04

  Well, I think. I'm sorry, can I answer the question?

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 19:25Speaker 04

  Okay, uh, with Love Island, I think it was just the main difference was my mindset. Going into Love Island, like, I'm like, oh, I'm in Fiji, I'm gonna talk to like, pretty girls, it's gonna be great, I'm gonna find someone, maybe I'll get a girlfriend. But it's not like that at all, it's like, it's like psychological torture and you don't sleep and it's like, okay, yeah, you really like this girl? Well, she's dead, we're taking her out of here, you know, it's crazy, but you're not really playing a game. But going into Traders, I'm like, in my mind, I'm like, these are not your friends.

• 19:54Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, they were not.

• 19:55Speaker 04

  These are your opponents, you know, you're here to beat everyone at a game and win. So I just had a very different mentality.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  Around the fireplace, when you, it was just you and Maura, and she looked at you and she said, no, I'm a faithful, and you acting down, we're like, um, you were like, no, like, in your body, were you anxious or were you like, I'm about to fuck this shit up?

• 20:22Speaker 04

  No, no, I was very anxious. I was like, oh shit, oh shit, oh fuck, oh shit. I gotta tell her that I'm a traitor.

• 20:30Speaker 01

  Was she angry in the moment?

• 20:31Speaker 04

  She was, she got over it so fast, like she was, she, she literally looked like she went through every single emotion you could possibly have, and at the end she was like, well played, I would have done the same thing to you.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  Exactly.

• 20:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:44Speaker 01

  And so tell me about the strategy with getting Lisa out. Because that came as a surprise. I would say that was a surprise for me, it was, it was that moment I feel like of like, okay, are we traitors together? Or like, is it any man's game?

• 21:00Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, it was any man's game, but I think that it just, it was, she was gonna go. Like, she wasn't convincing a lot of people that she was a faithful. And so she was going to get banished. It was a matter of time. And something that was referenced a lot, they didn't really talk about it a lot in the show, but was something that was referenced all the time when we were talking in the castle about who could be a traitor, who could be a faithful, blah, blah. It's, uh, they talk about the history of the voting. And like, the people that voted for Donna night one, they're like, they have to be faithful because they voted for a traitor, like, immediately. And so I wanted to kind of replicate that with Lisa. I wanted to vote with her as soon as the suspicion was on her. So that when people looked back, they'd have been like, well, Rob's a faithful.

• 21:43Speaker 04

  Like, he voted for Lisa immediately. A traitor wouldn't do that.

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• 23:01Speaker 01

  You're so smart.

• 23:02Speaker 04

  Hmm, I didn't go to 8th grade, but.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  What? Oh, you were homeschooled?

• 23:06Speaker 04

  Hmm, till high school. I went to a real high school.

• 23:08Speaker 01

  Okay, and what was real high school like for you?

• 23:11Speaker 04

  It was, it was a learning experience in many ways, more than just academics.

• 23:16Speaker 01

  What do you mean by that?

• 23:18Speaker 04

  I was just, uh, I was just weird. I was weird, you know, because I didn't really have social skills. Still don't really have the best social skills, but. Yeah, it was, uh, yeah, I didn't understand. I pretty much never wore clothes growing up. I just wore boxers or just shorts. I would pretty much never wear a shirt. So when I started going to school, I didn't realize, like, I think honestly, the biggest thing where I was like, these people are so different than me, was I would go to school and if I had my body covered, I thought it was good. It's not really what it is. Like, I would wear like striped shirts with plaid shorts and like, I wore crazy outfits and it was all hand-me-downs from my cousins and stuff. So I just kind of threw clothes on, went to school. Never did anything with my hair or anything. I just went to school. Uh, and then I was like, looking around, I was like, you know, like, I, I would really stand out.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Right. Did you make many friends?

• 24:05Speaker 04

  I did. I did. I made a lot of really good friends in high school.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  You play football?

• 24:08Speaker 04

  I did play football.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  You like?

• 24:10Speaker 04

  I loved football. I loved baseball.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Was it like Friday Night Lights?

• 24:15Speaker 01

  You've never seen Friday Night Lights?

• 24:16Speaker 04

  I have seen Friday Night Lights.

• 24:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 24:18Speaker 04

  And it wasn't really like that because we weren't that good at football.

• 24:22Speaker 01

  But was it still exciting? Like, every Friday, like, the game?

• 24:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I mean, like, in the South, like, football is like, big thing, like, everybody comes to the games, everyone's family. Random guys you see at gas stations will be there for some reason.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 24:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:37Speaker 01

  What's your favorite southern delicatessen?

• 24:40Speaker 04

  Delicatessen, she's a place?

• 24:42Speaker 01

  Delicatessen. What is the word?

• 24:45Speaker 04

  Delicacy?

• 24:47Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 24:49Speaker 01

  What is your favorite southern delicacy?

• 24:51Speaker 04

  Oh, goodness gracious. Probably like, biscuits and gravy.

• 24:57Speaker 01

  Hmm, do I know mine?

• 24:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Gumbo.

• 25:00Speaker 04

  Ooh, that's a good one.

• 25:02Speaker 01

  Do they have good gumbo in Alabama?

• 25:04Speaker 04

  It's more of a Louisiana thing.

• 25:05Speaker 01

  I know that.

• 25:06Speaker 04

  But there's a lot of folks that can cook good. My, uh, best friend's dad makes a mean gumbo. He puts okra in it. You like okra?

• 25:13Speaker 01

  Fuck no.

• 25:14Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  I hate okra. I like fried okra, but-

• 25:19Speaker 04

  What the hell? You can't hate okra, but like fried okra.

• 25:22Speaker 01

  Cause I don't taste the okra when it's fried.

• 25:25Speaker 04

  That's not true.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  It's true to me.

• 25:27Speaker 04

  What are you tasting?

• 25:29Speaker 01

  Fr- like salts, salty.

• 25:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:31Speaker 01

  Do you smoke weed?

• 25:33Speaker 04

  Um, rarely.

• 25:35Speaker 01

  You a fun high?

• 25:36Speaker 04

  No.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  I, I, you know what? I can see that.

• 25:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:41Speaker 01

  I can see that you, you just get quiet, you're quiet, you're quiet, sweet boy.

• 25:45Speaker 04

  I go non-verbal. Absolutely, absolutely I do. Um, and then I just, I'll, I'll come up with the craziest conspiracy theories. I have to smoke alone or with one person that I trust with my whole being.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  What's a conspiracy theory you believe?

• 25:58Speaker 04

  I don't have any that I really believe, but I am interested in them.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  Okay, tell me, tell me some you're interested in.

• 26:03Speaker 04

  My favorite one is Agartha. You familiar? The Earth is hollow. There's aliens in there.

• 26:10Speaker 01

  Oh, come on.

• 26:11Speaker 04

  No, I'm telling you, I'm telling you. Listen, okay, Antarctica-

• 26:15Speaker 01

  Convince me.

• 26:16Speaker 04

  Antarctica, right?

• 26:17Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:17Speaker 04

  Ever been?

• 26:17Speaker 01

  No.

• 26:18Speaker 04

  No? No one's ever been. You can't- And you can't go, okay? And even if you're a scientist and you have all this clearance, blah, blah, blah, you can go, but it's like this little tiny part of Antarctica you can go. You can't go there. And you can't fly over it with an airplane. And if you do, they'll take you-

• 26:33Speaker 01

  Says who?

• 26:34Speaker 04

  The UN. Every country owns Antarctica. Isn't that weird? Isn't that kinda weird? Who the fuck wants Antarctica?

• 26:40Speaker 01

  That's not true. It's not like North Korea.

• 26:43Speaker 04

  It basically is. Look it up.

• 26:45Speaker 01

  So no one lives in Antarctica?

• 26:47Speaker 04

  There's, there's a small scientific guild in Antarctica, but it's a very small piece of the land that's there.

• 26:55Speaker 01

  And you can't go anywhere else?

• 26:56Speaker 04

  You cannot go to Antarctica. You can't go.

• 26:58Speaker 01

  Someone fact-check this.

• 27:00Speaker 04

  Look it up.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  So it's rare that commercial airlines do, obviously, cause they're like not collecting a check, cause who the fuck wants to go to Antarctica?

• 27:10Speaker 04

  It's, it's, the airspace is not, it's not public domain.

• 27:14Speaker 01

  Oh my god, Rob, I am just having a golly gee old time with you.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  Me too. With you though, not me.

• 27:20Speaker 01

  And you know what my favorite moment in all of Traitors was?

• 27:23Speaker 04

  What's that?

• 27:24Speaker 01

  You needed to get a drink. You picked up the glass, threw it in the air and caught it in the other hand. I said, oh hell. I was like, did you see that?

• 27:32Speaker 04

  I didn't even see that.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  You didn't see that? You go, I need a drink. Oh my god.

• 27:38Speaker 04

  I do have pretty good hands. I've got good hands.

• 27:43Speaker 04

  I did notice when I got the coin, I like threw it up and flipped it. I was like, I got a shield. And I was like, why did I do that? That was a little extra.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  Can you explain the shields? I still don't understand.

• 27:54Speaker 04

  I do feel like the challenges and stuff are super complicated. But okay, so shield basically is if you are a faithful and you have a shield, you cannot be murdered that night.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  So why, I don't understand then why people aren't like, give me the shield. It's all so clearly like, I'm a faithful, I want the shield. I don't understand why people were like, no one's gonna take a shield tonight. Why?

• 28:14Speaker 04

  I completely agree. I thought that was the dumbest thing ever. Yeah, the one challenge where, I don't remember who it was, someone was like, no one take a shield or you're getting banished tonight. I was like.

• 28:23Speaker 01

  How would you get banished? You have a fucking shield.

• 28:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, I was like, hashtag, well, you can't, you can't get banished, but you can't get murdered. But I was like, I was like, hashtag, thank you. Now we can murder whoever we want tonight.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  Right, exactly.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  I thought that was crazy move for the faithfuls, but, you know, it worked out for me.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  Are you and Lisa still close?

• 28:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, I love Lisa.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  I die for Lisa.

• 28:42Speaker 04

  She's hilarious.

• 28:43Speaker 01

  Cause she's such a good, she's been on the show.

• 28:45Speaker 04

  Oh shit.

• 28:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:47Speaker 04

  She's gonna kill me for that.

• 28:48Speaker 01

  Why?

• 28:49Speaker 04

  Because I'm supposed to know everything Lisa's ever done.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Is that what she says?

• 28:53Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 28:54Speaker 01

  She's one, she is, you know, she is such a professional. She's so one of a kind. Did she give you any tips on how to be on reality television? I know you had already done Love Island, but was she like, just, this is a different, because it's a different ballgame. Would she, did she ever give you any advice?

• 29:13Speaker 04

  A ton of, not while we were there, but after, like post-show, she's called me like several times and talked to me. Cause like, I get, I get anxious. I get anxious about being talked about online and stuff like that. And, um, and yeah, she's been so sweet and she's called me and spoken with me about it and told me, because she's been through it all, you know? I mean, she's, she's a veteran.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  Well, you know what's interesting that I always find interesting about reality television? Is that reality television stars, and I don't know if you've found this, are spoken about online.

• 29:46Speaker 04

  Oh my god!

• 29:52Speaker 01

  I didn't even see this. What is this?

• 29:53Speaker 04

  It's me.

• 29:59Speaker 04

  Here.

• 30:05Speaker 01

  Who put this up here?

• 30:10Speaker 01

  We can just get rid of it. We saw, we saw.

• 30:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  Hi, say hi.

• 30:15Speaker 04

  Hey.

• 30:17Speaker 04

  Can I give that to my mom? She would love that.

• 30:19Speaker 01

  Really?

• 30:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:20Speaker 01

  Yes, this is for your mom.

• 30:26Speaker 01

  Um, okay, so what I find interesting about reality television and the way it's discussed is that it is discussed in the same way that you would go on Twitter and talk about a character on Grey's Anatomy. The difference with reality TV is, that is you. Like, you are, you are a character, but that is you as a person. So it hurts 10 times more. You can't be like, "That was written into the scene." You're like, "That is me." So do you feel like, obviously, your season of Love Island was the biggest to ever do it, do you think that prepared you for what people were gonna say about you on Traitors? Or did it, did it hurt just the same when people would say not-nice things?

• 31:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, honestly, I think if anything, Love Island made it worse. I think it's just like, the kinda like, just trauma from that. Like, cuz it, I'm not really someone to really care about what people think about me that don't know me. But, I mean, I'm sure you know how it is. Like, when, when people say things about you over and over and over again online, like, you just, it just gets to you more and more and more. And then, like, things had settled down from Love Island to, like, a certain degree. Uh, but then, you know, this show was a, was a hit and people are just talking again. But yeah, it, it, it's not fun, I guess.

• 31:47Speaker 01

  Of course not.

• 31:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's, it's fine, though. I'm okay.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're, you're okay.

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:52Speaker 01

  You look good.

• 31:53Speaker 04

  Oh, thank you. You do, too.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 31:56Speaker 04

  Whoa.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  So it's so funny you say that. I, have you ever gotten Botox?

• 32:02Speaker 04

  No. Have you?

• 32:04Speaker 01

  Wow. What's, Beechwood Clinic? Brightwood. Brightwood Clinic. I went, I went to go get a facial the other day called an Aqua Gold Facial. So it is a facial where they, like, inject little bits of Botox into your face, but it's not like Botox. Like, I'm not getting Botox in my face. What is it? No, that, that explained it pretty perfectly.

• 32:26Speaker 03

  It's like a just teeny amount of botox that they.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  But it's not like I can't, like I can still move my face and stuff. But as I was getting it, I'm like, hey, so I've been seeing this thing that I really want. And it's like neck botox that like pulls up your neck. So you're like, like this a little, like it makes your jawline more defined. And they were like, you just want it? And I was like, like right now? And they're like, yeah, we just, right, we have it, you can do it right now. So, and I've always been so hesitant to do botox, so I did it the other day and everybody keeps saying my jawline looks so defined.

• 33:04Speaker 04

  It does look defined.

• 33:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, it's.

• 33:11Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 33:11Speaker 01

  But when I go, it's a little tight. It's a little tight. I can't like, you know, like, it's like.

• 33:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, really?

• 33:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:19Speaker 04

  Did you feel like you have good?

• 33:20Speaker 01

  No, I can, I can do that, but I'm on Broadway now, so like, you know, I gotta show my facial expressions. When do you leave tonight?

• 33:28Speaker 04

  I leave tomorrow.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  So do you want to come to the show tonight?

• 33:31Speaker 04

  What time is it?

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Seven thirty.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Can I do that?

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Take turn around.

• 33:36Speaker 01

  You know what? Don't you worry about it.

• 33:39Speaker 04

  I'm sorry.

• 33:39Speaker 01

  I'll get you a recording.

• 33:41Speaker 04

  Yes, thank you.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  Of course. Where are you going next? Where are you off to next?

• 33:44Speaker 04

  Um, I, I don't, I watch, watch.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  Who's the guest? Who's the guest with him?

• 33:52Speaker 04

  Just me and Mora.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  Got it. Well, final two.

• 33:55Speaker 04

  Yes, top two.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  What was your favorite part about filming Traitors? Like, what was your part where you're like, I am having fun right now?

• 34:03Speaker 04

  Um, probably the car ride out of there after I won. I was like, hell yeah.

• 34:08Speaker 01

  I'm done.

• 34:08Speaker 04

  Stop lying.

• 34:09Speaker 01

  Is it two weeks? Just two weeks of filming?

• 34:11Speaker 04

  Three.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Three. Let me ask you something.

• 34:14Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 34:16Speaker 01

  The smoked salmon.

• 34:17Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 34:18Speaker 01

  What is the whole hullabaloo with the salmon? And why do they have so little?

• 34:23Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 34:24Speaker 01

  Everyone gets their first like, "Oh, the salmon!" What would you eat on a night to night basis? Okay, dinnertime, what would they serve?

• 34:31Speaker 04

  Chicken, there was a lot of grilled chicken.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  And you know that shit's been sitting the fuck out too.

• 34:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was usually cold.

• 34:38Speaker 01

  Ew.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  But I'm telling you, it was a huge step up from Love Island. Love Island was like, every day it was grilled chicken and it was always somehow undercooked and like, overcooked at the same time. I felt taken advantage of slightly, but you know what?

• 34:54Speaker 01

  I mean, I think you were too.

• 34:56Speaker 04

  I mean, I think everyone, like-

• 34:57Speaker 01

  I think everyone felt that way.

• 34:58Speaker 04

  A little bit, yeah.

• 34:59Speaker 01

  Do you keep in touch with any of the cast? I know you keep in touch with Kendall.

• 35:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, I talked to Kendall, Kayla, talked to Serena sometimes, talked to Janay sometimes. But like, I got love for all of them. Like, we all went through that together and I really, I mess with everybody from that.

• 35:15Speaker 01

  I mean, that show was... That summer, Rob, like, to me and my heart, like, oh my god, you guys couldn't hear Brat when it came out, could you?

• 35:26Speaker 04

  Mm-mm. We were having a Brat summer, we didn't even know.

• 35:29Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I'm gonna start crying. Like, I was in New York when Brat came out and I went to go see Louise and she looks at me and just goes, "It's just so cunt." And like, that moment for me, like, shifted my life. Love Island was out. We were going out every night, listening to Brat, flying across the country, doing whatever, and at the same time, every single night, we had you.

• 35:55Speaker 04

  It's true.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  When's your birthday?

• 35:57Speaker 04

  September 1st.

• 35:58Speaker 01

  Virgo?

• 35:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:59Speaker 01

  That's why you won Traders.

• 36:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh really?

• 36:01Speaker 01

  Very in control, likes control.

• 36:05Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 36:06Speaker 01

  It's the only thing I know about Virgos.

• 36:08Speaker 04

  I feel like everyone always tells me I must be like, super organized because I'm a Virgo. I'm not at all, though. I don't know how true that stuff is. You really into astrology?

• 36:16Speaker 01

  I mean, like I say I am. What do you think I am?

• 36:18Speaker 04

  You're probably, you're probably a Cancer.

• 36:23Speaker 04

  You're probably a Leo. You're probably a Sagittarius. Pisces.

• 36:29Speaker 04

  I think that's all of them I know.

• 36:30Speaker 01

  Keep going.

• 36:31Speaker 04

  I don't, Libra.

• 36:34Speaker 04

  Come on, Rob. Come on. Taurus.

• 36:39Speaker 04

  Come on. You know these. My brother's really into astrology.

• 36:45Speaker 01

  Well, yeah, he's gay.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  Oh, and we'd love that for him. He lives here in New York City.

• 36:51Speaker 01

  Hi. How old is he?

• 36:54Speaker 04

  He's 25.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  Is he having the best gay time of his life?

• 36:57Speaker 04

  Yeah, he lives here with his boyfriend. They're... They're the best.

• 37:01Speaker 01

  Are they so in love?

• 37:03Speaker 04

  They are. They've been dating for forever.

• 37:05Speaker 01

  How'd they meet?

• 37:06Speaker 04

  They met forever ago in Alabama. Of all places, they found love in a broken place. Is that what it is?

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Hopeless, but you were there. Do you still listen to Beba Doobie?

• 37:19Speaker 04

  I do. I do listen to Beba Doobie.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Bebe Doobie?

• 37:24Speaker 04

  Beba Doobie.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  I said it right.

• 37:26Speaker 04

  You said Beba Doobie.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Okay, whatever. Do you... What else have you been listening to these days?

• 37:31Speaker 04

  Um, do you know Ash Tuesday?

• 37:34Speaker 01

  Mm-mm.

• 37:34Speaker 04

  Do you know Brian James?

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Mm-mm.

• 37:37Speaker 04

  Well, you should listen to them, they're really good.

• 37:38Speaker 01

  Country?

• 37:39Speaker 04

  No, or they're like indie, I would say.

• 37:42Speaker 01

  I love how much you love indie music.

• 37:44Speaker 04

  I do love indie music.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  Do you like Bon Iver?

• 37:46Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Have you heard his new album?

• 37:48Speaker 04

  I don't know, maybe a song.

• 37:49Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no. Do you like the idea of like, like, do you get deep in your mind?

• 37:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, 100%.

• 37:55Speaker 01

  Okay, so this album is so spectacular. It's like, I don't know if I would describe it as a concept album, but it starts very melancholy, there's side one and side two, and it starts very melancholy, and then the second side, there's a song, and he says that this one lyric, like, that's a mood shift. He says like, like a hopeful lyric for the first time in the album, and when he says that lyric in that song on the second side of the album, the beat shifts entirely, and the rest of the album is very uplifting.

• 38:30Speaker 04

  That's cool.

• 38:31Speaker 01

  It is one of the most beautiful albums I've ever heard in my entire life.

• 38:35Speaker 04

  I'm gonna have to listen.

• 38:35Speaker 01

  Called Sable Fable.

• 38:36Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 38:37Speaker 01

  You have to listen to it.

• 38:38Speaker 04

  I'm on it. I'm on it.

• 38:40Speaker 01

  What other indie artists do you listen to?

• 38:42Speaker 04

  Can we look on my Spotify?

• 38:43Speaker 01

  Yes, hi Spotify.

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Oh, I've been listening to Oasis recently.

• 38:49Speaker 04

  Top ten anime betrayals by Ash Tuesday has been on repeat. Dumpster diving by Brian James has been on repeat.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  These all sound like, these all sound like songs that I think I would like.

• 39:00Speaker 04

  Gucci Mane, Swing My Door. That's, that's a little, I don't like rap music a whole lot, but that one.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  How does it go?

• 39:07Speaker 04

  You want me to play it?

• 39:08Speaker 01

  Sing it.

• 39:10Speaker 04

  Burn one, burn one.

• 39:14Speaker 04

  I'm like, no, no, no, definition of the sound. I'm finding out here, just some hoes in this house. Swing my door, swing my door. Everybody know they swing my door. I count eighteen five every time they swing my door. Swing my door, swing my door. Yeah, that's pretty, it goes hard.

• 39:30Speaker 01

  That sounds good. Do you like pump, listen to it as like a pump up song?

• 39:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. I listen to it on the way to the gym and then at least once or twice while I'm at the gym.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  Hey, so what do you do in the gym?

• 39:38Speaker 04

  What do I do in the gym? I lift weights.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Okay, how, like, what is the timing of that? Like, how long do you say you lift weights for?

• 39:45Speaker 04

  One to two hours.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  What?

• 39:50Speaker 01

  Okay, so I do thirty minutes. And they're like, you did so good, Jake.

• 39:57Speaker 04

  What do you do? What do you do?

• 39:59Speaker 01

  So, do you want to know what I did today?

• 40:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, absolutely.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  I had a push and pull day.

• 40:02Speaker 04

  Okay, good.

• 40:02Speaker 01

  So I did chest.

• 40:05Speaker 04

  Bench press?

• 40:06Speaker 01

  Bench press, and then I did incline press.

• 40:08Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 40:08Speaker 01

  And then I did cable flies.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  Okay, good.

• 40:10Speaker 01

  And then I did, um, uh, pull ups.

• 40:15Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 40:15Speaker 01

  One round. Cut it at that.

• 40:17Speaker 04

  How many pull ups can you do?

• 40:18Speaker 01

  Eight.

• 40:19Speaker 04

  That's good. That's really good.

• 40:21Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 40:21Speaker 04

  That's good.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  Should we go do pull ups in the gym after this? And see, how many can you do?

• 40:26Speaker 04

  Right now, max, twelve.

• 40:31Speaker 01

  And I can do eight?

• 40:32Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Not me gagging. Wait, like, so I'm like, strong?

• 40:37Speaker 04

  You're super strong, Jake.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  You can, you could, you could only do twelve?

• 40:42Speaker 04

  All right, now that you're talking all this shit, I could probably do fifteen.

• 40:45Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 40:46Speaker 04

  But I don't know, we'll have to see, honestly.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  Okay, so what made you decide to do?

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Wait, sorry, sorry, wait, before we move on. I can do pull ups with just two fingers. Can now keep going.

• 40:56Speaker 01

  What do you mean you can do pull ups with two fingers?

• 40:57Speaker 04

  I can do pull up with just two fingers. That's all I need. I got really good grip strength. Test it.

• 41:08Speaker 04

  Okay. Okay.

• 41:13Speaker 01

  Wow, um.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  What made you decide? What made you decide to do Traitors over Beyond the Villa?

• 41:24Speaker 04

  There was no chance I was doing Beyond the Villa.

• 41:26Speaker 01

  I mean, respect.

• 41:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, like, like, not, not because of, like, drama, or like, anything to do with the cast, like, loved them all, it was just like, it was in LA, and they were like, "Yeah, like, just moved to LA, it's a docu-follow", I'm like, "Brother, that's not what docu-follow means, like, I don't live in LA", and they're like, "No, but, like, you're gonna be coming to visit all of your friends", and I'm like, "No, I'm not, I know, no, it's not real life."

• 41:50Speaker 01

  I love how true to yourself you are.

• 41:52Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Do you still, like, call Alabama home base?

• 41:56Speaker 04

  Hundred percent, hundred percent, I'm going there tomorrow.

• 41:59Speaker 01

  What are you most excited about to go home to?

• 42:01Speaker 04

  The warmth, uh, riding my motorcycle, and it's like, just about time for the snakes to start coming out, so...

• 42:08Speaker 01

  Tell me about the snakes.

• 42:10Speaker 04

  What do you wanna know?

• 42:12Speaker 01

  Why?

• 42:15Speaker 04

  Well, I think that they are misunderstood creatures, and I think they're really beautiful, and I am passionate about sharing that with the world, honestly.

• 42:24Speaker 01

  What is beautiful about them?

• 42:25Speaker 04

  They're gorgeous, can I show you some pictures?

• 42:27Speaker 01

  Okay. But how do you know, like, I'm confused, like, oh my god, they scared the shit out of me, like, how do you, how are you not like, "Oh my god",

• 42:36Speaker 04

  "No, I'm gonna show you the snake and you're gonna be like",

• 42:38Speaker 01

  "This snake's about to beat my shit up"?

• 42:41Speaker 04

  Look at this thing, look at that.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  Oh wow, that is-

• 42:43Speaker 04

  Is that not the most beautiful thing you've ever seen?

• 42:43Speaker 01

  Oh, that is just gorgeous, that's like an alien.

• 42:47Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's an Asian vine snake for the folks at home.

• 42:50Speaker 01

  I hope you find such an amazing life.

• 42:52Speaker 04

  Oh, thank you.

• 42:53Speaker 01

  I really, like, wow, you are a good person, aren't you?

• 42:58Speaker 04

  I try, I try, I try my best.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Do snakes have sex?

• 43:04Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:05Speaker 01

  How?

• 43:06Speaker 04

  With their sex organs, cloaca?

• 43:08Speaker 01

  But like, how do they like, have sex?

• 43:11Speaker 04

  Uh, it's a lot of wrapping around.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  Hmm. Do the snakes have brains?

• 43:17Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 43:18Speaker 01

  Do they like, communicate with each other?

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Hmm, somewhat, during mating season, yeah.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  What is the most proud you've ever been of a snake you've caught?

• 43:29Speaker 04

  Oh, I caught, uh, the rarest snake in Malta. On accident, and it was awesome.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  And what do you do with that snake?

• 43:39Speaker 04

  Just put it back where it was. Say, "Have a good day."

• 43:42Speaker 01

  But you took a pic. It's like a meet and greet.

• 43:44Speaker 04

  It is like a meet and greet. It's, for me, it is. It's a meet and greet. And I get very excited, and I say hello, take a picture, and let him go.

• 43:52Speaker 01

  Okay, so, we have a fun new section that we're introducing to the show. It's called Manny's Corner.

• 43:59Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 43:59Speaker 01

  Manny, raise your hand.

• 44:01Speaker 04

  Hey Manny.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Manny likes to just write a few questions out that she would like the answers to.

• 44:06Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 44:07Speaker 01

  It's Manny's Corner. It's Manny's Corner.

• 44:10Speaker 04

  How did Manny get cor- a corner?

• 44:12Speaker 01

  Um, because Manny is one of the most funny and talented writers I've ever met in my entire life.

• 44:18Speaker 04

  That'll do it.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  If your trailer suddenly exploded, and you had to move, would you get a house, or still pretend to be humble?

• 44:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, I actually live in a house now.

• 44:29Speaker 01

  Breaking news. What kind of snake do I remind you of? The ones that have a whole egg in them?

• 44:38Speaker 04

  Sure, yeah. Egg eater. Go for it.

• 44:42Speaker 01

  You caught your first snake at four years old.

• 44:45Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 44:45Speaker 01

  Were your parents proud, scared, or absent?

• 44:50Speaker 04

  They were present and scared.

• 44:52Speaker 01

  Okay. Last one. People say you're hard to read.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 44:57Speaker 01

  You were also homeschooled.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 44:59Speaker 01

  Is it also hard for you to read?

• 45:01Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 45:02Speaker 04

  Well, I'm dyslexic, so...

• 45:04Speaker 01

  You are?

• 45:04Speaker 04

  I am.

• 45:05Speaker 01

  So was my brother and my mom.

• 45:07Speaker 04

  I stand with them.

• 45:08Speaker 01

  And that's Manny's Corner.

• 45:09Speaker 04

  That was great. Good job, Manny.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  She's, she's quite the corner. Okay, so Rob... Rob, what are you therapist about today?

• 45:18Speaker 04

  Therapist about? It's like, angry, right?

• 45:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:21Speaker 04

  People that stand up on airplanes right when it lands.

• 45:26Speaker 04

  You do that, brother?

• 45:28Speaker 01

  Beep, up.

• 45:30Speaker 04

  Why? Why?

• 45:32Speaker 01

  Because let me get my bag first.

• 45:35Speaker 04

  Why, though? You're not gonna get on the plane any faster, like just sit in your fu-

• 45:39Speaker 01

  Yes, I am.

• 45:40Speaker 04

  No, you're not.

• 45:41Speaker 01

  Yes, I fucking am.

• 45:42Speaker 04

  Like, maybe max three people faster than you were going to.

• 45:47Speaker 01

  We're taxiing, we're taxiing, we're taxiing.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  Beep.

• 45:51Speaker 04

  Aw, hell nah.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Like-

• 45:53Speaker 04

  And this is me, this is me.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  You just wait?

• 45:56Speaker 04

  I just sit there until they open the door.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  Why?

• 46:00Speaker 04

  Because what is the point?

• 46:01Speaker 01

  I've been sitting for five fucking hours, let me get my app-

• 46:04Speaker 04

  Oh my gosh, so, so let me ask you a question, let me ask you a question, we're on an airplane. I'm in the aisle.

• 46:08Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 46:09Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 46:10Speaker 01

  Ding.

• 46:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then I'm like, fucking hell, okay.

• 46:15Speaker 01

  Your turn.

• 46:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, and then I get up, and then I let you get out, yeah, no, like-

• 46:19Speaker 01

  And then I'm like, do you wanna get your bag first, or do you want me to step over you?

• 46:21Speaker 04

  No, I'd, I'd let you go, and then I'd sit back down.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 46:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:26Speaker 01

  What a gentleman. What is your dream wedding?

• 46:30Speaker 04

  I don't think I have one, I think-

• 46:31Speaker 01

  You don't wanna, do you wanna get, you don't wanna get married?

• 46:33Speaker 04

  I do wanna get married, but I think, I guess my dream wedding is to marry the love of my life, and it works out forever, and we have beautiful children, and a meaningful marriage, full of love.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  My dream wedding is that I marry someone that I think is attractive, that is funny, but not too funny.

• 46:55Speaker 04

  Hmm, you have to be funnier than-

• 46:56Speaker 01

  I would like to be funnier, I would like to make, I want to wake up every day and make them laugh, but my dream wedding would be like 150 to 200 people.

• 47:05Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 47:06Speaker 01

  Depending on who wants to come, we could reach 250, 300, but I'd rather max it at 200. I would like it to be abroad.

• 47:13Speaker 04

  Okay, destination wedding with 300 people. You're a little selfish.

• 47:18Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 47:20Speaker 04

  It's a little rude.

• 47:21Speaker 01

  150, 150.

• 47:23Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  You know what, maybe I'll do like a Charleston wedding.

• 47:27Speaker 04

  Charleston?

• 47:28Speaker 01

  Sorry, that's me like, I'm just trying to, I don't wanna do Charleston. I love Charleston, I don't wanna do Charleston. I think I wanna do a wedding in-

• 47:35Speaker 04

  Do you know what your dream wedding is?

• 47:38Speaker 01

  I wanna do a wedding in I- Italy, no, I hate the food in Italy.

• 47:42Speaker 04

  What the hell?

• 47:44Speaker 01

  I think I wanna do a wedding, uh, I also, maybe, no.

• 47:49Speaker 04

  You should do it Gulf Shores, Alabama, on the beach.

• 47:53Speaker 01

  Oh my gosh. That's her dream wedding. Flor Bama, she literally loves Alabama.

• 48:02Speaker 04

  It's the best.

• 48:02Speaker 01

  Do you know she has a group of girls?

• 48:05Speaker 04

  No way.

• 48:05Speaker 01

  From college. Okay, imagine-

• 48:07Speaker 04

  What sorority were you in?

• 48:09Speaker 03

  Capital, Alabama.

• 48:10Speaker 04

  What the hell?

• 48:11Speaker 03

  What the hell?

• 48:15Speaker 01

  She like really, she loved Bama down. Like that was, that is her Roman Empire. I think she will look at you and tell you she peaked in college.

• 48:24Speaker 03

  Oh, I would not say that.

• 48:25Speaker 01

  Okay, sorry.

• 48:27Speaker 03

  I think that me going to Alabama is like your Roman Empire, for me.

• 48:33Speaker 01

  Why?

• 48:34Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? Like, I feel like you love talking about the lore that I went to Alabama.

• 48:38Speaker 04

  You survived.

• 48:39Speaker 01

  She had this group of girls, imagine having a friend group of 20 plus girls that all get along.

• 48:44Speaker 04

  No, that's not true.

• 48:45Speaker 01

  That's what I said. She goes, "You're just toxic."

• 48:48Speaker 04

  There's no way.

• 48:48Speaker 01

  They're called, they're called the Peppas.

• 48:51Speaker 04

  The Peppas? Like the pig?

• 48:52Speaker 01

  Yes. They're gonna love it. Say hi, Peppas.

• 48:56Speaker 04

  Hey, Peppas.

• 48:58Speaker 01

  They always come to my show. They, do you know, by the way, I saw this, one of the Peppas that she went to so, go see my show with, they posted a photo of Louise at dinner and wrote, "Give her a raise." You know I saw that, right?

• 49:11Speaker 03

  I saw that and I was like, "Oh, this is public."

• 49:15Speaker 01

  I love the Peppas. They really have my back. But you know who my favorite Peppa is?

• 49:19Speaker 03

  Put it, put it out there.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  The one with that thick fucking accent and blonde hair.

• 49:23Speaker 03

  Oh, Ella?

• 49:24Speaker 01

  I don't know.

• 49:25Speaker 03

  Did you meet her at an airport?

• 49:26Speaker 01

  No, I met her at a show. And she was like, "Girl, I just love you so damn much."

• 49:31Speaker 03

  Sarah Burton.

• 49:34Speaker 03

  That's for sure.

• 49:35Speaker 01

  She's like, "I am Louise's best friend. We are a Peppa." Like that. I love her.

• 49:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, I relate.

• 49:42Speaker 04

  What'd you say?

• 49:42Speaker 03

  She loves you.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's my favorite Peppa, and VR.

• 49:45Speaker 04

  I, I love that.

• 49:47Speaker 03

  He's like-

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Are you looking for love right now?

• 49:49Speaker 04

  No.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  Girlfriend?

• 49:52Speaker 01

  Tell me everything.

• 49:54Speaker 04

  Well, I'm kind of just like keeping it like-

• 49:56Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no. No names, no identities, but just tell me like how you fell in love.

• 50:01Speaker 04

  She understands me, and she's very similar to me in the way that she communicates her emotions, and that is something I've-

• 50:10Speaker 04

  It's been hard to find for me.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  How do you like to communicate your emotions? Like, what is your love language?

• 50:16Speaker 04

  My love language is quality time.

• 50:17Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 50:18Speaker 04

  And acts of service. That's really how I give my love more. But yeah, it's like...

• 50:26Speaker 01

  What would you think my love language is?

• 50:29Speaker 04

  Hmm, gifts?

• 50:31Speaker 01

  Receiving or giving?

• 50:33Speaker 04

  Both.

• 50:34Speaker 01

  Okay, I think that's pretty valid. I also think my love language is like affirmations, words of affirmations. Like, when I'm with a guy and he's telling me that he thinks I am attractive, like, it really makes me feel good inside. Or that he's, more specifically, like, I am enjoying spending time with you. Okay, can we FaceTime Lisa?

• 50:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. She's not gonna answer.

• 50:57Speaker 04

  I have wrinkles.

• 50:59Speaker 01

  Let me see. No, those are beautiful. You might wanna go into acting one day.

• 51:04Speaker 04

  Thank you.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Text her and say important.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  She'll answer. Trust.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  Obviously, everyone has heard about Poppy. I feel like the soda market is such a hard market to infiltrate, and Poppy, like, has... Now, I'm just preaching about Poppy, but they, like, really have become, like, a staple. If you don't know what Poppy is, though, it has five grams of sugar, ingredients you can love, and prebiotics. Like, I drink one a day. Honestly, I have one right here. The Shirley Temple flavor, which is my favorite flavor besides Cherry Limeade. Back in the day, when I used to post, like, a million times a day, I used to, like, do these, like, Poppy jingles, and I used to, like, sing about Poppy. Like, there was one that was like, "Do you, like, son of a Poppy, it's so good." Do you remember that? We are so lucky to have Poppy as a new sponsor on for the season because I love them so much. I was in their Super Bowl commercial. Not this year, but last year. It was, like, one of the coolest moments of my life.

• 51:58Speaker 01

  If you haven't yet, try the new Shirley Temple flavor. It is actually incredible. I feel, like, I used to have this thing where I would, everywhere I would go, I would always get a Shirley Temple, but it wasn't, like, that big of a bit until someone I went on tour with, Meg. I love you, Meg. She photographed all my shows. Everywhere she went, she would get a Shirley Temple. So now Meg can always have a Shirley Temple with her because Poppy just released an incredible, incredible flavor. So, thank you, Poppy, for sponsoring this episode and this season. I love you. You can literally find Poppy in probably any store near you. Oh Rob, I really feel like we are like friends.

• 52:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, I thought we were before this, but...

• 52:36Speaker 01

  No, I, no, I, we were, but like, I wanna hang out.

• 52:40Speaker 04

  Dude, I'm down.

• 52:41Speaker 01

  Well, we're getting more as Burke in.

• 52:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  And it's, is that Lisa?

• 52:45Speaker 04

  No, it's Sean.

• 52:46Speaker 01

  Who?

• 52:47Speaker 04

  Sean.

• 52:48Speaker 01

  Sean who?

• 52:48Speaker 04

  Sean, I know your last name, I can't remember it right now.

• 52:52Speaker 01

  Is it someone that I would know?

• 52:54Speaker 04

  He's just my friend, like he, like we've been snowboarding.

• 52:56Speaker 01

  Okay, can I ask you a question?

• 52:58Speaker 04

  Red motorcycles.

• 52:58Speaker 01

  Who has been styling you? I'd like to give them credit.

• 53:01Speaker 04

  Annie and Nora.

• 53:02Speaker 01

  Annie and Nora.

• 53:03Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  She has been doing an excellent job with your outfits.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  I'm gonna have to agree.

• 53:08Speaker 01

  Because they are still true to you, but you're elevated. So Annie and Nora, shout out you.

• 53:15Speaker 04

  Yes, shout out Annie and Nora.

• 53:16Speaker 01

  How long has she been styling you for?

• 53:19Speaker 04

  Twice.

• 53:20Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:20Speaker 04

  Right? Yeah, yeah, this, no, like twice isn't trips, like she, she, everything I've worn the whole time I've been in New York has been Annie and Nora. And then also, some stuff in LA, right? Yeah, that, some, some photo shoots.

• 53:34Speaker 01

  Okay, well, what's next for you?

• 53:37Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 53:38Speaker 01

  Is that, I know that's a weird question, but like, do you wanna take a beat for a second?

• 53:42Speaker 04

  I would love to take a beat, like, dream, dream scenario would be I don't do any shows like in the next year. And then maybe I do a show after that, but I just don't know how realistic that is. Because like, here's the thing with me, like, basically what I'm, like, I, I don't wanna do this forever, I know that for sure, but like, I don't wanna also kinda half-ass it and not really do as much as I can and then, and then look back in 10 years and be like, damn.

• 54:07Speaker 01

  I should've done more.

• 54:08Speaker 04

  I really could've used this for my kid's college, you know what I mean, like?

• 54:11Speaker 01

  A thousand percent.

• 54:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, and, and, and then regret not capitalizing on momentum and, you know, all the, all the stuff.

• 54:18Speaker 01

  Would you ever D W T S?

• 54:21Speaker 04

  Dancing with the Stars.

• 54:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:23Speaker 04

  Maybe.

• 54:25Speaker 01

  You would.

• 54:25Speaker 04

  I can't dance, Jay.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  But that's the beauty of it all.

• 54:30Speaker 04

  I've seen High School Musical though, so like I feel like.

• 54:32Speaker 01

  No, I think you would learn. They, they like, when Alex did it, she was in that dance studio seven days a week. Like you, if you, I like am a firm believer is if you like dedicate yourself hard enough to something, you will get better. You will do it. You will, you will improve.

• 54:52Speaker 04

  That's true. And I'm very competitive. Like I know if I did.

• 54:55Speaker 01

  I know you're competitive.

• 54:56Speaker 04

  I would give it my all. Like I would. And that would be even more embarrassing because I probably still wouldn't be good.

• 55:01Speaker 01

  No, you have pretty privilege.

• 55:03Speaker 04

  Yeah, I know. But like I'd want to be good at it. Like I don't like doing stuff I'm not good at. And dancing is one of those things that I just don't, I wasn't born to be a dancer. You know, like I recently started learning to wheelie motorcycles. And it was really hard.

• 55:17Speaker 01

  Well, that is very dangerous. I would just like to tell you that gives me a lot of anxiety. I really don't want you to get hurt. I'm being dead serious. That like freaks me out.

• 55:23Speaker 04

  No, I'm very safe.

• 55:24Speaker 01

  How can you be safe while wheeling a motorcycle?

• 55:26Speaker 04

  I take it slow. Okay. I get better and better and better and better. And now I can do it for like a whole minute.

• 55:31Speaker 01

  That gives me really bad anxiety. Please be safe.

• 55:34Speaker 04

  Of course. I always wear a helmet.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  Always a helmet and maybe like a, a, like a steel suit?

• 55:42Speaker 01

  So if you fall.

• 55:42Speaker 04

  I'll look into that.

• 55:43Speaker 01

  Oh, um, speaking of like fast moving cars, have you seen any of the Oscar noms this year?

• 55:50Speaker 04

  No.

• 55:51Speaker 01

  Not a single one? You're not a movie guy?

• 55:54Speaker 04

  I like movies. I'm just not like a big like pop culture person.

• 55:57Speaker 01

  So funny because you're kind of like the face of pop culture sometimes.

• 56:02Speaker 04

  On occasion, I'm, I'm in the conversation, but yeah, no, I'm not really big in it.

• 56:06Speaker 01

  Do you, what, what television? Do you watch any television? Do you watch any movies?

• 56:10Speaker 04

  Uh, I love, like, I like animated stuff. Like, I like some anime. I like, I love Avatar, Last Airbender, uh, Parson Wreck. I loved that show. I liked, liked those, kind of like the office type stuff. I like funny stuff. But currently, really haven't been watching too much television.

• 56:32Speaker 01

  So when you go home at night? What do you do?

• 56:37Speaker 04

  At night?

• 56:38Speaker 01

  Cause you're not on, I assume, I assume you don't scroll TikTok. I don't get that vibe from you.

• 56:43Speaker 04

  On occasion I will, it depends. Like at the airport, that's what I'm doing. I'm on TikTok probably.

• 56:47Speaker 01

  Okay, but when you're in bed and you're sitting alone, the day is over.

• 56:51Speaker 04

  I'm probably going to sleep.

• 56:55Speaker 04

  Is that a foreign concept?

• 56:57Speaker 01

  Wait, I'm confused. Like you just like, okay, sleep time, and you shut your eyes and you go to bed? You don't take, you don't take anything?

• 57:04Speaker 04

  No.

• 57:08Speaker 01

  What's that like?

• 57:10Speaker 04

  I don't know, I just like, oh, I play Fortnite, I play Fortnite.

• 57:13Speaker 01

  Okay, there we go.

• 57:14Speaker 04

  Sometimes I'll play some Fortnite before bed, yeah.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  How do you deal with anxiety?

• 57:18Speaker 04

  Um, yeah, riding motorcycles is a huge help. It's like free therapy. Um, and then like doing anything that doesn't have to do with me is also really nice because I think that's really, can be sometimes hard to do, especially when your job is like fucking like go talk about yourself on a podcast. Or like go do like, be on a show or something, you know, whatever. But yeah, I think like doing something that has nothing to do with myself, like helping someone, uh, being with my grandpa, helping my mom with something, doing something like that, like is so good for, cause you're like, holy shit, like, oh, we're all in the, like we're, I'm just a person. I don't know. Does that make sense at all?

• 57:55Speaker 01

  It reminds me of that scene in, uh, the Beyonce documentary on HBO. I forgot what it's called. It's like if I, something about dreaming. And she says that she stands by the ocean sometimes to, cause you know, as a public figure, sometimes you can feel like everything you do is so important, but she stands by the ocean to like remind herself that like it's nothing. Like you're nothing.

• 58:18Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 58:19Speaker 01

  And so does, is that, is the mom, is helping your mom and your grandpa your ocean?

• 58:24Speaker 04

  Yes, and the creek, and space. I think about space sometimes. That calms me down so much.

• 58:29Speaker 01

  What do you think about space?

• 58:30Speaker 04

  It's kind of the same thing as the ocean, just like thinking about how insignificant.

• 58:35Speaker 04

  I really am in the big scheme of things is a very peaceful feeling.

• 58:39Speaker 01

  But can I ask you a question because I struggle with this a lot. It's yes, it's like, okay, who cares what anyone has to say about you, but then when that's our job. And that's how you make money for your kids and your life. And if people hate you, then you can't, then your job, then you don't have a job. It's like, what do you do? Like, does that not?

• 59:03Speaker 04

  Well, no, like.

• 59:03Speaker 01

  Anxiety?

• 59:04Speaker 04

  It it doesn't, that doesn't just because of the simple fact of like, if you just are being yourself, it doesn't really matter. You know, at the end of the day, like if people end up hating me, and I know like things can get twisted so easily, especially with reality TV. You can be villainized or made to look a certain way, but like if you're always being yourself and you're true to yourself, then you really can't go wrong. Because if that ever does happen, then it's like, all right, I just move on. But if I ever start trying to act a certain way to get people to like me, to do.

• 59:32Speaker 01

  Right, right.

• 59:33Speaker 04

  Performative type of thing, then that's when you, I think, will really get into trouble with that kind of stuff.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  Because it's like, oh, you are, you're fake.

• 59:41Speaker 04

  You're fake, which is gonna hurt you on the inside, but then also it's like everything everyone says about you isn't even true. Anyway, because you're not even real, it's not even you.

• 59:52Speaker 01

  What's the most, what's something you've read once and been like, that is so far fetched and everyone believed it?

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  I feel like I've had so many of those things. I can't think of anything on top of my head, but I've definitely seen that quite a lot.

• 1:00:06Speaker 01

  And do you interact or do you just let go and let God?

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  I pretty much never interact. I did recently though. I was on a snowboarding trip and I was playing poker and I got really drunk and uh. And then we quit playing poker and I got on my phone and I was just like keyboard warrior. It's like, no, no, no, no, no, it's crazy, it's bad.

• 1:00:23Speaker 01

  Did you regret it?

• 1:00:25Speaker 04

  I woke up and I was like, shit, but I had to snowboard, so there's no time to think about that.

• 1:00:29Speaker 01

  No hangover?

• 1:00:30Speaker 04

  Tequila soda, because like no hangover, but then also like.

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  Sorry?

• 1:00:34Speaker 04

  Tequila soda.

• 1:00:35Speaker 01

  Okay, I've been struggling so much with my hangovers. I went out last Friday night and then I had two shows the following day. I was.

• 1:00:44Speaker 04

  Are you drinking like sugary like?

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  No, I drank dirty martinis with vodka all night.

• 1:00:49Speaker 04

  Hmm. Yeah, I feel like that would be not that bad for a hangover. Maybe try a tequila soda.

• 1:00:54Speaker 01

  I'm gonna do it. I'm gonna do it.

• 1:00:55Speaker 04

  I think it's also hyd- like kinda hydrates you a little bit cuz it's water with it. And also what I'll do is if I'm gonna be drinking a lot, I would drink a glass of water in between every drink and then I'll also.

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:01:06Speaker 04

  No hangover.

• 1:01:07Speaker 01

  Okay. What's your favorite place to visit and am I asking like the most random questions? I just wanna get to know you.

• 1:01:15Speaker 04

  I'm here for it, you know, I'm having a good time.

• 1:01:17Speaker 01

  What's your favorite place you've gotten to go to because of? Si- starting from Love Island to now, what's your favorite place, you can't say Fiji, that you've gotten to go to?

• 1:01:27Speaker 04

  For work?

• 1:01:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:28Speaker 04

  Like work only? I mean, does catching snakes count as work?

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  But you've always, you've always caught.

• 1:01:34Speaker 04

  Okay, yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:34Speaker 01

  No, no, no, not just for work, not just for work, just like you've made money. Even if just like you've made money, you could take yourself somewhere that you never thought you could take yourself.

• 1:01:43Speaker 04

  I mean, that's hard cuz I, I, I traveled so much before all this, like for snakes. Those are my favorite places, but I, but like for work, like that I've been to. I don't know, I mean, I, like places that I would never go, like I would never go to London on purpose. I would never go to Scotland on purpose cuz it's like cold and stuff, but like those, it was cool to see all that stuff. Uh, and I'm like grateful that I had the opportunity to like go and get paid to do that.

• 1:02:06Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  Cuz I would've never go there.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  Right.

• 1:02:08Speaker 04

  You know, just for fun, so it's, that's cool. Like I do appreciate that.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  What is your favorite meal in Alabama?

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  Probably Sonic.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  Oh, shut up.

• 1:02:20Speaker 04

  Uh, no, it's probably yum, yum Thai sushi. It's a, it's really, if you ever come to Florence, if I ever get you down there to catch some snakes and hang out.

• 1:02:27Speaker 01

  You know what, though, is I ki- I've been kind of like ruminating on doing, um. I, I, I take the show on, on the road sometimes and I take it on tour. And we kind of overdid it last time. We did like fifty something dates over the course of the year. It was a lot. But I'm thinking if I do like one night only in a few places, Alabama would obviously have to be one of them. Fayetteville, Arkansas would have to be one of them. If I do that, I would love to go to yum Thai sushi with you. Have you been to yum Thai sushi?

• 1:02:57Speaker 04

  It's sick.

• 1:02:58Speaker 03

  I graduated from Frotwell High School.

• 1:03:00Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. Mountain Brook.

• 1:03:03Speaker 01

  Where'd you graduate from high school?

• 1:03:05Speaker 04

  Shoals Christian.

• 1:03:07Speaker 01

  Do you know that?

• 1:03:07Speaker 03

  Mm-mm.

• 1:03:09Speaker 04

  A lot of people went to Alabama from there.

• 1:03:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:13Speaker 01

  Do you ever wish you went to college?

• 1:03:14Speaker 04

  I did go to college.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:03:16Speaker 04

  I went to college. What the hell?

• 1:03:18Speaker 01

  Where'd you go?

• 1:03:19Speaker 04

  University of North Alabama.

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  We're rivals?

• 1:03:23Speaker 04

  UNA? No.

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  We were, we are like newly D1.

• 1:03:29Speaker 01

  Okay. Did you have fun in college?

• 1:03:31Speaker 04

  A blast.

• 1:03:32Speaker 01

  And then what made you say, let's do Love Island?

• 1:03:36Speaker 04

  I just was like, okay, let's do it.

• 1:03:38Speaker 01

  You just, did you apply like on a whim or?

• 1:03:41Speaker 04

  I didn't apply. They DM'd me on Instagram.

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  Shut the fuck up. You were recruited like Cindy Crawford.

• 1:03:47Speaker 04

  Yeah, like, yeah.

• 1:03:49Speaker 01

  Wow, how beautiful is that?

• 1:03:51Speaker 04

  It was beautiful. It is crazy. I was actually thinking about that. She posted, the girl that recruited me posted on her story like, never know when a random DM's gonna go. So I was on Fallon and she was like.

• 1:04:03Speaker 01

  How was Fallon? I was, that was so cool to see you on Fallon. I wa, I saw, I saw, I saw all the photos and everything. You looked amazing. How was it?

• 1:04:11Speaker 04

  It was cool. He was really nice. He was like, he seemed like a genuine person, which was like surprising and nice. He was cool. Uh, my sister cried and that was very sweet. Um. Yeah, my family is really proud. My, my friends from back home were really proud. I think for them, like, they were like, wow, like.

• 1:04:29Speaker 01

  Late night?

• 1:04:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:30Speaker 01

  Late night's like the crème de la crème. I just did my first late night as well.

• 1:04:34Speaker 04

  Yeah?

• 1:04:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:35Speaker 04

  How did you feel?

• 1:04:37Speaker 01

  I felt, I got there and I was really, really, really quiet because I was super anxious. And then I, I, I drank a Celsius and I like kinda like, opened up a bit. I got excited and then right before I went out, I did, do you ever do like these breaths where you go?

• 1:04:55Speaker 01

  I do that and it like calmed me down.

• 1:04:57Speaker 04

  Let's try that.

• 1:04:58Speaker 01

  And then I, I wa, I walked, I always think of anything scary. I've learned this from like when I went on tours, like you're just jumping into really cold water. Or like ripping a Band-Aid off.

• 1:05:11Speaker 01

  And like, once you're in the water, like, you're stuck. Also, like, you have to remind yourself that, like, some, sometime, I know this is a toxic way of thinking, but if you're just like, no, like, you are stuck. Like, you have to do this right now. You can't turn around and not do it. Like, you have to do it. So, put on a fucking smile, act relaxed, and do it. Because you're here and you're doing it, and there is no turning back. Like, when I would do a show, I'm like, people bought tickets to this. I'm not gonna be like, I can't do it. I'm doing it. So, just like, you have to, like, set your mindset, like, this is happening. I'm also on really, really, really, really heavy medication.

• 1:05:51Speaker 01

  Are you?

• 1:05:52Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:05:53Speaker 01

  Would you ever? Yeah, it seems like you don't need it, honestly.

• 1:05:56Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:57Speaker 01

  Did you ever answer what you were therapist about?

• 1:05:59Speaker 04

  Yes, people standing up on airplanes.

• 1:06:01Speaker 01

  Right, right. Okay, I'm gonna go pee really quickly, if that's okay with you?

• 1:06:05Speaker 04

  Go piss, girl.

• 1:06:08Speaker 04

  Thought you'd like that one.

• 1:06:09Speaker 01

  You know I do. And then, we're gonna do the tell me what's wrongs.

• 1:06:13Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  Do you know what those are?

• 1:06:15Speaker 04

  I think I could figure it out.

• 1:06:21Speaker 04

  Hey, Lisa.

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  How you doing, sweetheart? I'm with, I'm with someone that wants to talk to you.

• 1:06:31Speaker 01

  We're just talking about how much we love you!

• 1:06:35Speaker 02

  Shut up! All my boys are together, are you kidding? I love this so much!

• 1:06:41Speaker 01

  I miss you!

• 1:06:43Speaker 02

  Uh, hi, miss you, Broadway star, how is it?

• 1:06:47Speaker 01

  It's good, it's good, but I wa- I want, I, Harry needs to make me pasta.

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  Oh, honey, done. Wait, I'm gonna have you boys over.

• 1:06:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, should we both go over? Should we both go, can Rob and I come over together and Harry can make us pasta?

• 1:07:03Speaker 02

  Done. Anytime, morning, noon, or night. Yes, absolutely. Wouldn't that be so fun?

• 1:07:08Speaker 01

  That would be so fun. Oh, I miss you so much.

• 1:07:11Speaker 02

  I miss you, and you know I love both of you so much. What are you doing together right now?

• 1:07:15Speaker 01

  The podcast. You're on the podcast.

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  I am?

• 1:07:20Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 1:07:21Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm looking so cute. Thanks a lot, Rob.

• 1:07:24Speaker 04

  No, you look fabulous as always.

• 1:07:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was about to say, your skin's glowing. You know, I got Botox for the first time yesterday.

• 1:07:32Speaker 04

  Look at his jaw look.

• 1:07:33Speaker 02

  Congrats. Wow, it takes a minute to kick in.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what everyone's saying. That's what everyone's saying.

• 1:07:41Speaker 02

  But why did you get Botox?

• 1:07:43Speaker 01

  Because I was at a facialist and they were like, "We have it." And I was like, "Fuck it."

• 1:07:50Speaker 02

  Exciting.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  Exciting.

• 1:07:53Speaker 02

  Exciting. I love it. Well, you're so gorgeous anyway.

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  Well, I love you, and I miss you.

• 1:07:58Speaker 02

  I love you. I miss you. I'm so thrilled that you called. I get a text message from Rob that's just as important. And I'm like, "What the fuck is that?" I go, "Is this for me? Hi?" And he's like, "Yes." Cutest thing.

• 1:08:11Speaker 01

  I'm so happy you picked up. We love you so much, Lisa.

• 1:08:14Speaker 02

  I love you. This made my day.

• 1:08:16Speaker 01

  You made our day. We love you. And I'm gonna see you soon.

• 1:08:19Speaker 02

  I hope so, for pasta.

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  Yes, for pasta. Harry Hamlin's pasta.

• 1:08:24Speaker 02

  And is the Birkin bag in the works? Is it working?

• 1:08:27Speaker 01

  I'm going with him. I'm going with him to get it.

• 1:08:30Speaker 02

  Oh my God, you're kidding.

• 1:08:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm excited.

• 1:08:34Speaker 04

  Thank you again.

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  He needs a gay man to show him and make sure that it's correct.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  Okay, I am so happy about this. I need to see everything. I'm sure I will, but I need to see the whole Birkin situation.

• 1:08:46Speaker 01

  We'll record it for you.

• 1:08:49Speaker 02

  Okay. I love you, boys.

• 1:08:50Speaker 01

  I love you.

• 1:08:51Speaker 04

  I love you, Lisa. Bye. Thanks for picking up. Bye.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  She really is the best.

• 1:08:55Speaker 04

  She is. She actually is.

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  She, like, when she came on my show, like, it was one of the best episodes I've ever... Like, it was some of the most fun I've ever had. She is so professional. And like, you know when someone like is prof- like, okay, so like she plays on Housewives, right? Like somebody that like fights with people, right? But you can tell for her that like it is a job. And that she, it's, she's an actress. And it is her, but it's also a job and you can tell that in her heart, she is a really good person that really, really cares about the people she loves.

• 1:09:31Speaker 04

  I completely agree.

• 1:09:33Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. No, she's great and she's hilarious. Like I'm constantly laughing whenever I'm with her. Like she's, she's so funny.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  Okay, well, are you ready for the tell me what's wrongs?

• 1:09:40Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 1:09:41Speaker 01

  I accidentally Venmo'd my very recent ex $300 instead of 30 for something I owed him for. We broke up on bad terms and haven't been talking, but I am a woman of my word. He is not. Now he is ditching my calls, texts, et cetera. What the fuck do I do? How does she get that $270 back?

• 1:10:00Speaker 04

  I would start telling all of his friends.

• 1:10:03Speaker 01

  Like get him to?

• 1:10:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Because that would be embarrassing, probably. If she knows his friends, she'd be like, hey, your friend is like, he stole my money, so I can have it back.

• 1:10:12Speaker 01

  Also, maybe we can take a moment right now. I don't know you. But Venmo, if you are seeing this, please help this girl get her money back. $270. But please, please help this girl get her money back.

• 1:10:30Speaker 04

  Wow, that was very good of you.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  I told a guy I loved hiking to seem outdoorsy and now I'm on our second seven mile hike on an incline with no service. By the way, I'm wearing platform Converse. How do I survive this? And this is why it's important to be authentic in relationships.

• 1:10:48Speaker 04

  Yes, 100%. This happened to me once.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  What happened?

• 1:10:51Speaker 04

  A girl said that she loved hiking and I took her hiking and she had never been hiking and it was-

• 1:10:55Speaker 01

  I hate hiking.

• 1:10:57Speaker 04

  And I respect that, honestly.

• 1:10:59Speaker 01

  Like, you know what, I would like you to sit here and tell me what you enjoy about it.

• 1:11:04Speaker 04

  So, to be so, so for real, I really don't like hiking that much. It's just necessary to do what I do wanna do, which is find cool snakes, you know? Like, that's the mission, but I wouldn't go, like, if we were somewhere where it's cold, and they're like, "Let's go on a, like, a four-mile, five, ten-mile hike," I'd be like, "I'm good, like, there's no snakes, like, I'm not gonna find anything cool." Like, I'll take a picture of, like, something, but, like, I'm not really trying to do all that, for real.

• 1:11:32Speaker 01

  With the snakes, like, do you, like, would you, in a dream world, like, host, like, tourist, like, tour groups on, like, snake tours? Is that, like, what you would want to do?

• 1:11:45Speaker 04

  It would be cool, but, like, I feel like it would get redundant. I'd get bored of catching the same, cuz even now, like, I've caught the same species in Alabama so many times, like, I still enjoy that, but, like, I get so excited being in range, like, in habitat for, like, a species I've never seen before. Finding that, like, oh, it's just so exciting, it's like Pokemon, you know?

• 1:12:09Speaker 01

  So, would you say the dream is to make enough money to be able to provide for your wife and your kids and travel around the world and travel and just catch snakes for the joy of it?

• 1:12:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, straight up, yeah, that's perfect.

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  That is really beautiful, and I really, really think that that will happen for you.

• 1:12:27Speaker 04

  I think you're right.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  Would you ever wanna do a show where it's you traveling across the world catching snakes?

• 1:12:33Speaker 04

  Maybe, it would have to be, it'd have to be the right thing, you know? It'd have to be authentic, it'd have to be real, cuz, like, with these, kinda like, doggy falls and stuff, a lot of them are not really real, it's all set up and, like...

• 1:12:46Speaker 01

  So, could you self-fund it? And if...

• 1:12:49Speaker 04

  See, I think, I think almost a better thing would be just a YouTube channel.

• 1:12:52Speaker 01

  Right, yeah.

• 1:12:53Speaker 04

  But I'm just really bad with all that stuff, so I need to get, like, a production company or someone that would help me make a really good YouTube channel and do that. And then I could bring people, like, like, would you go snake catching with me for, like, a YouTube video?

• 1:13:03Speaker 01

  I would love to go snake catching with you.

• 1:13:05Speaker 04

  It would be a blast, I feel like...

• 1:13:06Speaker 01

  Wait, I, I would, are you, like, around in the next few months?

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'll be here, I'll be in, like, well, I'll be in America.

• 1:13:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, where would you, like, where, if I'm like Rob, let's go take a trip and catch snakes, where would you wanna go?

• 1:13:18Speaker 04

  I would say, let's just go to Miami, let's go to South Florida and let's find some pythons.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  And then go to Eleven after?

• 1:13:25Speaker 04

  No, I've never been.

• 1:13:27Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:13:28Speaker 04

  No, everyone says you gotta go, you gotta go.

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  Twenty-four hours.

• 1:13:31Speaker 04

  Scary, that's scary.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  Striper, drinking, oh, I'm having a time.

• 1:13:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't know, maybe.

• 1:13:41Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:13:41Speaker 04

  We'll do this next and then we'll talk about eleven, maybe. I will go to the Hard Rock. I like, I like.

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  You like the Hard Rock Cafe?

• 1:13:48Speaker 04

  I like a little bit of blackjack, you know?

• 1:13:50Speaker 01

  Okay, I like the one where you spin it.

• 1:13:53Speaker 04

  Roulette.

• 1:13:54Speaker 01

  Yeah. You like gambling?

• 1:13:56Speaker 04

  I actually quit gambling. I lost, um, twenty thousand dollars in Vegas last time I was there.

• 1:14:02Speaker 01

  Rough.

• 1:14:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:04Speaker 01

  This girl in my class has a huge crush on my professor. She won't stop asking him random questions in the middle of class at the top of her lungs. Including asking him about his family, girlfriend, etc. I know this is annoying, but it's at a point where we're actually missing information. Bitch, really? You care about missing information in class? We need, because they keep chatting intermittently. The teacher isn't immediately shutting this down because she's hot as fuck. Do I slash we get involved? Why would you ever snitch?

• 1:14:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, that's.

• 1:14:37Speaker 01

  Why would you, first of all, first of all, is the information really that important? What are you learning?

• 1:14:44Speaker 04

  And who's winning here? You know what I mean?

• 1:14:47Speaker 01

  Let the girl get her bag, like, if they keep, I mean, I guess he has a girlfriend, but it was always, always, always my dream in college to fuck my professor. Like, always my dream, like, I wanted him to take me, like, for, like, notes and then, like, like, fucking, you know, like, that video, like, um, where the gay guy got fucked in Congress, like, that was, like, my dream with a professor.

• 1:15:10Speaker 04

  I don't know that video, but, um, yeah. No, I'm sorry, you didn't get to fulfill your dreams.

• 1:15:16Speaker 01

  No, my professors were like eighty.

• 1:15:19Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:15:20Speaker 01

  And they would always fail me.

• 1:15:21Speaker 04

  So was it more of a hypothetical thing, or was it like?

• 1:15:23Speaker 01

  She's like, should I tell on her for, like, wanting to fuck her professor?

• 1:15:27Speaker 04

  Your situation, like, was there a specific professor, or like?

• 1:15:31Speaker 01

  No, I wish, like, oh my god, I still get butterflies thinking about it, like, I literally, and I, I'm, I, but back in the day, like, I've learned how to be a better flirt, like, once, I have gay friends now, I used to not have gay friends.

• 1:15:42Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:15:42Speaker 01

  And having gay friends is very important. Um, because, like, you know, there are certain questions you can't ask your girlfriends. And your girlfriends will be like, ew, but, cause, you know.

• 1:15:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:15:54Speaker 01

  Up the.

• 1:15:55Speaker 04

  I get it.

• 1:15:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, but like, when you have gay friends, you can ask them like, how to flirt? How do you do like, and so it's very important. And I think if I had gay friends back in college, I would have been able to find a professor to fuck.

• 1:16:06Speaker 04

  I think, I think he might be, I think he might be right. I don't know.

• 1:16:09Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:16:10Speaker 04

  But yeah, no, I'm against this. I'm against the snitch, always.

• 1:16:13Speaker 01

  Always. Have you ever snitched on someone?

• 1:16:16Speaker 04

  I don't think so.

• 1:16:20Speaker 01

  Actually, you want to do me a favor really quickly?

• 1:16:22Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, whatever.

• 1:16:23Speaker 01

  Do you see that camera right there?

• 1:16:24Speaker 04

  This one?

• 1:16:25Speaker 01

  Ask Matt, say, Matt?

• 1:16:27Speaker 04

  Matt.

• 1:16:28Speaker 01

  Is it true?

• 1:16:29Speaker 04

  Is it true?

• 1:16:30Speaker 01

  And now do that all at once.

• 1:16:31Speaker 04

  Matt, is it true?

• 1:16:34Speaker 04

  Did you do it?

• 1:16:36Speaker 01

  Or are you?

• 1:16:37Speaker 04

  Or are you? What is this about?

• 1:16:43Speaker 03

  It's a long bit.

• 1:16:45Speaker 01

  I just did it on the, on the news, so don't worry.

• 1:16:47Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:16:49Speaker 01

  I found out the guy I've been hooking up with has a girlfriend because she requested to follow me and her bio says, "Two years with my favorite person."

• 1:16:56Speaker 04

  With his at?

• 1:16:58Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 1:16:59Speaker 04

  Get out.

• 1:16:59Speaker 01

  I've been seeing this man for a couple of months. She must have requested to follow me because she's suspicious, as I would be. Or she's been talking, or he's been talking about me. Do I tell her or just ghost him? So I would double check, I would check my facts.

• 1:17:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, 100%.

• 1:17:12Speaker 01

  I would check my facts. Do not go to the man first. Do not give him the upper hand. Check your facts, check your mutuals, check what's going on. If she's dating him, DM her. And say, uh, what's going on here?

• 1:17:27Speaker 04

  I'm with that.

• 1:17:27Speaker 01

  And that's that.

• 1:17:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:29Speaker 01

  I moved to a new city five months ago where I didn't know a soul. One of my girlfriends knew a guy that moved here recently too, so she connected us. We, we quickly became going out buddies. And when we do, it's usually just the two of us. Last weekend, after a night out, we hooked up. I was in a long-term relationship for about three years before this, so I'm super confused. I've deaf caught feelings for this guy, but I can't tell how he feels. Oh, the worst. I'm not the hooking up type at all. And I'm worried I'm about to be in either a situationship or have to cut him off entirely. He's one of my only friends here. Making girlfriends post grad is hard help. So to make girlfriends, I don't know what city you live in. I know this sounds like intimidating. I would really see if there is a run club in your area.

• 1:18:14Speaker 01

  My best friend Brett met so many friends doing the Venice Run Club in California.

• 1:18:21Speaker 01

  Really and truly, go and find a run club to make girlfriends. It really is just such a way, cause like that, that, it's a bunch of people that also like wanna make friends.

• 1:18:32Speaker 04

  I think open communication in any relationship, whether it's an actual relationship or just hooking up is so important because then that's gonna cause hurt. When, that, that's, that's what causes hurt, basically, I think. When something like that's happening is when one person is thinking one thing's going on, the other person is thinking something else. You know, so it's just better just to talk about it, even if it's awkward. Get it out of the way. Are you on the same page or you're not on the same page? And then if you're not on the same page, you're like, maybe you should cut it off.

• 1:18:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. I faked knowing how to play guitar to impress this guy and now he wants to jam with me this weekend.

• 1:19:10Speaker 04

  I feel like that's such a girl thing to do.

• 1:19:12Speaker 01

  No, this seems like a gay man. I don't know.

• 1:19:16Speaker 01

  I do, maybe it's a girl. I don't know a single chord. Do I come clean or learn overnight? Hope I'm so stressed. I think it is so endearing if you tell him that you were lying just because you liked him so much and you wanted to impress him.

• 1:19:26Speaker 04

  Hundred percent.

• 1:19:27Speaker 01

  It is so sweet and so endearing.

• 1:19:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:30Speaker 01

  Come clean, it's endearing. Is there a prescription I can give for that? A prescription is like a piece of pop culture or a movie or something that we give people. Like, is there a movie that somebody pretends to do something or be something that, yes, Louise?

• 1:19:44Speaker 03

  Twenty Seven Dresses, The Sister.

• 1:19:46Speaker 01

  Twenty Seven Dresses, The Sister Does What?

• 1:19:48Speaker 03

  Pretends to like be a vegan and love hiking.

• 1:19:50Speaker 01

  She pretends to be a vegan and love hiking. I would watch Twenty Seven Dresses.

• 1:19:54Speaker 04

  James Marsden.

• 1:19:57Speaker 04

  He's in that movie. I met him one time.

• 1:19:59Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, I was very confused as to where you were going with that. Do you watch Paradise?

• 1:20:07Speaker 04

  What is that?

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  My god.

• 1:20:12Speaker 01

  That was really horrible, what just happened.

• 1:20:16Speaker 01

  It's a show, just go into it blind, it's the best show on television. Not even kidding, you would love it, James Marsden's in it, it's amazing, yeah. And that was it for the Tell Me What's Wrong's.

• 1:20:25Speaker 04

  Wow, we did it.

• 1:20:27Speaker 01

  We did it, we did that, and now we're gonna go get Maura Birkin.

• 1:20:30Speaker 04

  I know, I can't wait.

• 1:20:31Speaker 01

  Did you have fun with me today?

• 1:20:32Speaker 04

  Yes, I did, yes.

• 1:20:33Speaker 01

  I also had so much fun with you.

• 1:20:35Speaker 04

  We just had fun, we're friends. Now we both know that we're friends.

• 1:20:47Speaker 04

  Hell yeah.

• 1:20:50Speaker 01

  One more time?

• 1:20:53Speaker 04

  That was it.

• 1:20:53Speaker 01

  One more time?

• 1:20:54Speaker 04

  Alright.

• 1:20:56Speaker 01

  There. That was sick. Okay, Rob, what did we learn today?

• 1:21:02Speaker 04

  So much about love and life.

• 1:21:04Speaker 01

  I learned that you are really authentically you. That you are the same on camera, you are the same off. And I think that's beautiful, and I think that's why you found so much success in an area that maybe you thought you would never be in.

• 1:21:21Speaker 04

  Wow. Well put.

• 1:21:23Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:21:24Speaker 04

  And, and thank you, I appreciate that.

• 1:21:26Speaker 01

  It's true, you are the same, you are literally the same.

• 1:21:28Speaker 04

  I am. I am literally the same.

• 1:21:30Speaker 01

  What did you learn? Oh, also, Eric wants me to tell you, he wants you to buy him a Rolex, but I said, okay, well, like...

• 1:21:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's trying to get that going.

• 1:21:37Speaker 01

  But like, he was a traitor too, so like, Eric, I love you, but...

• 1:21:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's, you know, Birkins are expensive.

• 1:21:44Speaker 04

  I thought about maybe Birkin stocks.

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  We could talk about it.

• 1:21:48Speaker 01

  Wait, what?

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  You didn't like that? I'm getting more of Birkin, I could get him Birkin stocks.

• 1:21:52Speaker 01

  Oh, that's funny, that's cute, you should do that, that's funny. Thank you for coming on the show.

• 1:21:56Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:21:57Speaker 01

  I love you.

• 1:21:58Speaker 04

  Love you too.

• 1:22:00Speaker 01

  Okay. Thank you for coming on the show.

• 1:22:07Speaker 01

  I will see you later to buy more of Birkin.

• 1:22:09Speaker 04

  Amazing. Bye pussies.