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0:42 Speaker 01 Okay, what do you want to talk about? You usually lead the way.
0:45 Speaker 02 Well, let's talk about how a year ago, it was almost a year ago now where we first podcasted together.
0:52 Speaker 01 It was.
0:53 Speaker 02 Why are you nervous?
0:54 Speaker 01 Are you nervous?
0:55 Speaker 03 I'm not nervous. You guys just made me.
0:57 Speaker 02 I'm not nervous. You guys just get awkward with each other.
0:59 Speaker 03 No, we don't.
0:59 Speaker 01 No, we don't.
1:00 Speaker 03 You make it awkward.
1:00 Speaker 02 Okay, then I'll stop being awkward.
1:02 Speaker 01 Will, and I saw the invite last night.
1:04 Speaker 03 We did, and it was incredible.
1:05 Speaker 01 It was actually amazing.
1:06 Speaker 02 You don't even know what that's about.
1:08 Speaker 01 Well, it's cool to know things.
1:10 Speaker 02 Yeah, okay, so tell me.
1:13 Speaker 01 It's about just like a couple and they have another couple over for dinner.
1:17 Speaker 03 It just proves that love is hard.
1:19 Speaker 02 Does air conditioning work in here? I'm like sweating.
1:23 Speaker 02 Like, not even kidding.
1:24 Speaker 03 I don't really have anything to say.
1:25 Speaker 01 Are you gonna wear that hat all day?
1:27 Speaker 03 Obviously, yeah.
1:28 Speaker 02 Get right out of your closet.
1:29 Speaker 01 That's so annoying.
1:30 Speaker 02 I really like that.
1:30 Speaker 03 It looks really cute on me, though, no?
1:32 Speaker 01 It looks better on you than it does on me, but it's annoying.
1:35 Speaker 02 I think you should keep it.
1:36 Speaker 01 No, you absolutely cannot keep that hat.
1:37 Speaker 02 Will has a huge pimple on his forehead.
1:40 Speaker 03 Have y'all met him yet?
1:42 Speaker 02 I actually, it's like the first thing I saw when he walked in.
1:44 Speaker 01 God.
1:45 Speaker 02 I'm kidding.
1:45 Speaker 03 Cass has been mean to me today. Today, you've been mean.
1:48 Speaker 02 I haven't. You've been mean to me.
1:50 Speaker 03 It's because you haven't drinking your juice.
1:52 Speaker 02 That's why. Let's get into it. Start asking questions.
1:56 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:57 Speaker 03 Should you ask us about our relationship?
1:59 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. How's your relationship?
2:01 Speaker 03 It's going okay.
2:02 Speaker 02 It's going okay. We've honestly fought a lot.
2:05 Speaker 03 We have good times and we have bad times, but...
2:07 Speaker 02 We've fought a lot recently.
2:08 Speaker 03 We have.
2:09 Speaker 02 I think that jealousy has come into play recently between us.
2:12 Speaker 03 Cass has found somebody who she deems her comfort figure, and that used to be me. And it's tough.
2:19 Speaker 01 Well, how's your sex life been?
2:22 Speaker 02 See, like, I don't like when you talk about this.
2:24 Speaker 03 A little stagnant.
2:25 Speaker 02 Okay, well.
2:27 Speaker 01 Would you agree?
2:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:31 Speaker 01 Oh, let's talk about your birthday.
2:34 Speaker 02 Oh, my birthday.
2:35 Speaker 01 So, this is a good place to air this out. Basically, what happened was, it was the final, it was basically, everyone knew the Knicks were gonna win this game. And so I was playing it at my pregame that I had for Cassidy's birthday.
2:47 Speaker 03 Well, they didn't know the Knicks were gonna win.
2:49 Speaker 01 Yeah, but like, there was a, that's why it was such a good game.
2:51 Speaker 03 Yes.
2:51 Speaker 02 But can I intervene really quickly? I gave you the go on having, on having the Knicks game on during my pregame. Like, obviously it was unfortunate. It was the same night as my birthday. I honestly wanted to cancel my birthday. But anyway, I gave you the go. But then, what I wasn't okay with is when we got my, the venue, that we were an hour and a half late to, already.
3:16 Speaker 03 To be fair, we heard screams from the bar.
3:18 Speaker 01 We heard screams from down the street.
3:21 Speaker 02 That's fine. But the principle of it all is like, come and get me.
3:25 Speaker 01 Yeah. We didn't want to miss a moment of the game, and it was at the very end, and we knew you would have sat there for 10 minutes being like, wait, what?
3:33 Speaker 02 No, I wouldn't have.
3:34 Speaker 03 You wouldn't have left.
3:35 Speaker 01 Cassidy, you would not have left.
3:37 Speaker 02 No one at my birthday. Like, during the time when we went up, basically, everyone left me. And it was Jake's idea. Because he gathered everyone to go watch.
3:47 Speaker 01 You're making it seem calculated. We were getting in.
3:49 Speaker 03 Well, we got booted from the limo, lest we forget.
3:52 Speaker 02 Jake didn't, you did.
3:55 Speaker 02 And I, no, but not me.
3:57 Speaker 03 How did you end up at the bar with me?
3:58 Speaker 01 Because we just all pulled up at the same time.
4:01 Speaker 02 But I was, I wanted to stay with you. So that's also why I was upset. I was literally said to you, do you want me to stay? And everyone's like, Cassidy.
4:09 Speaker 01 Okay, basically, long story short, we're at the bar, I go outside to finish watching the game, there's three minutes left in this game, literally three minutes left. Three minutes left, it's about to be history, the Knicks.
4:19 Speaker 02 Will, turn your sound off, please. It's really inappropriate.
4:24 Speaker 01 It's like about to be history, where there's, the city is alive. Like, the city is actually, like, blood is pumping through the city. Please, listen to me. Please.
4:36 Speaker 02 Because every time I trigger him so hard, he gets so passionate about why he took everyone to go watch it.
4:42 Speaker 01 I didn't take everyone to go watch it. The only person I took was Julia.
4:48 Speaker 01 The only person I took was Julia. I said, come on, we're from New York. We have to experience this.
4:52 Speaker 03 And I was already there.
4:53 Speaker 01 Will was already there. We ran. I was like, oh, my God, Will. And then I was like, put me on your shoulders. And then I got on Will's shoulders and I said.
5:00 Speaker 02 Like, I just.
5:01 Speaker 01 And then we walked back into Cassidy's birthday. Dun, dun, dun.
5:05 Speaker 02 It was.
5:08 Speaker 02 You know, you knew exactly what you were walking into.
5:13 Speaker 03 Jake and I are in the corner like this.
5:16 Speaker 01 Will said, Will kept saying, let me talk to her.
5:18 Speaker 03 Let me talk to her. She had bodyguards around her. I said, please, I need a moment.
5:22 Speaker 01 I said, Cass, I'm so sorry. I'm peeing, rubbing your back, looking at me like this.
5:26 Speaker 02 And kept giving you the sting face, like, literally, like, you did something.
5:30 Speaker 01 No, but she loved that she had your back.
5:33 Speaker 02 She did. She was the only one who did. I left my birthday saying, Peyton is the only loyal friend. Like, everything you did is fine. It's just, like.
5:43 Speaker 01 No, it was, it was five minutes.
5:45 Speaker 02 Jake, no, I was sitting at the table alone on my birthday.
5:49 Speaker 03 It was at least 20.
5:50 Speaker 02 20 minutes, and I'm texting the group chat saying, where the fuck is everyone? And I got someone coming up to me being like, babe, where is everyone? Like, do you even have friends? Like, we're an hour, we're an hour and a half late to my birthday already.
6:10 Speaker 02 And I get hit with the worst question on your birthday, basically asking, did anyone care to show up for your birthday? And I'm looking around, like, scratching my head, like, fuck, like, someone get me a vodka soda right now. Like, I was ripping shots. And we quest, and we wonder why I don't remember one single thing about my birthday, because you tormented me.
6:31 Speaker 01 I did not torment you.
6:32 Speaker 02 For 20 minutes in the beginning.
6:33 Speaker 01 And I said, I was sorry. I said, look, it was a spur of the moment decision, but once I was there, you're there. It was like a crowd. It was like a general admission.
6:39 Speaker 03 Fun birthday. We had the best night ever.
6:41 Speaker 02 It was so fun.
6:42 Speaker 03 And I stayed with you till the very end.
6:43 Speaker 01 So did I.
6:44 Speaker 03 No.
6:45 Speaker 01 Yes, I did.
6:46 Speaker 03 You did.
6:46 Speaker 01 You guys, it was 4 a.m.
6:47 Speaker 03 You're right. But we did a nightcap.
6:49 Speaker 02 Well, Will and I, Will and I ended up together, but like, that's always.
6:52 Speaker 03 Always the case. Yeah.
6:53 Speaker 01 I mean, they made out. They won't let me put the clip on the screen.
6:56 Speaker 03 Wait, it was too real.
6:57 Speaker 02 I still haven't watched the clip.
6:58 Speaker 03 I haven't either.
6:59 Speaker 02 I refuse.
6:59 Speaker 01 You guys.
7:00 Speaker 02 Okay, honestly. Show us. Five seconds.
7:06 Speaker 02 Wait, I don't know if I want to see y'all, in all honesty.
7:17 Speaker 04 Wait, wait, wait, wait.
7:21 Speaker 01 For tonight on Therapist, we have Belmont Cameli.
7:26 Speaker 01 From Off Campus. Did you guys watch Off Campus?
7:28 Speaker 04 It was the best show I've ever seen in my life.
7:29 Speaker 01 Thank you, Will Coss, for the intro.
7:31 Speaker 02 Love you.
7:32 Speaker 01 Enjoy the episode. Love you pussies.
7:36 Speaker 01 Hi.
7:37 Speaker 04 Hi.
7:38 Speaker 01 We have Belmont Cameli on Therapist today.
7:40 Speaker 04 Hi Jake.
7:41 Speaker 01 Hi.
7:42 Speaker 04 How are you?
7:43 Speaker 01 I'm good, how are you?
7:44 Speaker 04 I'm so good.
7:45 Speaker 01 What are you in town for?
7:47 Speaker 04 I'm in town briefly for Obsessed Fest, which we concluded yesterday with Amazon. And then various other meetings and fun things.
7:57 Speaker 01 Are you having fun?
7:59 Speaker 04 Yeah, I am. The whole cast is here. We had a really good time the last couple of days. And we got to meet a lot of the actors on some of the other Amazon romance shows coming out too, and they're all very sweet. We had a good time.
8:11 Speaker 01 Anyone in particular that you were like, oh gee?
8:14 Speaker 04 Yeah, well Matt Cornet's a buddy of mine. He just had Every Year After come out and they just announced the second season for his show, so I'm very happy for him and that crew. Yeah, everybody was really pleasant.
8:24 Speaker 01 Okay.
8:25 Speaker 04 What's up with you?
8:27 Speaker 01 I don't know. I just got off a flight. My flight got delayed.
8:31 Speaker 04 I know.
8:31 Speaker 01 I was so miserable about it, but like, you know what? Like, trust the higher power because I'm so happy that I flew this morning as opposed to last night.
8:39 Speaker 04 It's good. Were you waiting in an airport for this flight or you got to hang out?
8:43 Speaker 01 No, and by the way, I clocked, I knew, I knew I was gonna be waiting in the airport. Because there was two flights. There was a JetBlue flight and there was a Delta flight. The Delta flight was taking off at 7 a.m.
8:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
8:52 Speaker 01 And the JetBlue flight was taking off at 11. It kept moving. It was like 8, 10, 11. I said, if I go to the airport right now... I'm, I will be here overnight.
9:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
9:01 Speaker 01 And so I took Delta.
9:02 Speaker 04 You have good foresight.
9:03 Speaker 01 I do have good foresight.
9:05 Speaker 04 Well done.
9:05 Speaker 01 How's season two going?
9:07 Speaker 04 We're almost finished with the first two episodes of season two. We've read the first half of the episode, so we've read four. It's really good.
9:14 Speaker 01 How different is it from the books?
9:17 Speaker 04 Well, it's interesting, cause like, you know, in a way, the featured couple is similar to the books. So you know, like, there's a different featured couple each season.
9:25 Speaker 01 Oh!
9:26 Speaker 04 Yes, which is cool, but the show is sometimes an amalgamation. You'll have scenes from different books in, in one season. And we did that kind of last year, too. There were some scenes from different books that made it into season one. Season two will probably be the same way.
9:41 Speaker 01 Okay.
9:42 Speaker 04 Um, so yeah, it's, it's very like the books. Um, but it's, it's dissimilar in some ways, too.
9:48 Speaker 01 Okay.
9:48 Speaker 04 Um, but yeah, I mean, it's just like getting back there and doing table reads, um, is just a really nice reminder that our show is in the right hands, cause it's, every time we get one of these scripts, I mean, they're, they're so well-written. And like, our show really has a visual language now. Um, and it's, it's been fun to see that, kind of what we established in season one, um, get translated into like a really like firm identity for season two. So it's like, when we're reading these scripts, we're like, oh man, like this is off-campus, it's really cool.
10:18 Speaker 01 Oh, so you've, yeah, you feel more in it.
10:20 Speaker 04 Yeah.
10:20 Speaker 01 More comfortable.
10:21 Speaker 04 Yes.
10:22 Speaker 01 More established.
10:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, and it's like, the ensemble is really alive in this upcoming season. Everybody has stuff going on all together, which is really fun.
10:30 Speaker 01 Have you read the books?
10:31 Speaker 04 I've read some of the books. Well, I've read my book.
10:33 Speaker 01 Do you read in general?
10:35 Speaker 04 Not much.
10:36 Speaker 01 Neither do I.
10:39 Speaker 01 I hate reading.
10:40 Speaker 04 I, I enjoy reading, uh, it's just, uh, it's kind of like anything, you know, it's like, uh, I, the hardest part is just sitting down with a book.
10:48 Speaker 01 I can't do that.
10:48 Speaker 04 I can't, I don't get there.
10:50 Speaker 01 When's the last book you read that wasn't off-campus?
10:52 Speaker 04 I read, um, Earlier this year, I took a little vacation to Mexico and I read Kurt Vonnegut's book, Cat's Cradle, which was really good.
11:00 Speaker 01 So you do read?
11:01 Speaker 04 No, no, this is just, this is actually just convenient for me.
11:05 Speaker 01 I couldn't name one author if you had a gun to my head. Besides, who's the one with all the Netflix shows? No, what's his name? Harley Cobain.
11:13 Speaker 04 Oh, see, I don't know who that is.
11:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, he's like the Stephen King of England.
11:17 Speaker 04 Incredible.
11:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, but he writes thriller instead of-
11:19 Speaker 04 Stephen King, another novel.
11:21 Speaker 01 Do you think you would recognize him if you saw him in the street? I would.
11:24 Speaker 04 I think so.
11:25 Speaker 01 I would.
11:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:26 Speaker 01 I'd be like, wait, that's, he looks so familiar.
11:29 Speaker 04 Uh huh.
11:29 Speaker 01 Who is that?
11:31 Speaker 04 And he would probably have this incredible bravado. When you see people like that, do you, do you say hi to folks?
11:37 Speaker 01 I did once.
11:38 Speaker 04 Okay, who was it?
11:39 Speaker 01 It was Ryan Beatty.
11:40 Speaker 04 Who?
11:41 Speaker 01 He is a singer-songwriter.
11:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
11:43 Speaker 01 He's amazing.
11:44 Speaker 04 Cool.
11:44 Speaker 01 Amazing, and I couldn't help myself. And I had to say like, I'd just die for you.
11:48 Speaker 04 That's sweet.
11:49 Speaker 01 Have you ever done that?
11:50 Speaker 04 I stood next to Orlando Bloom once.
11:52 Speaker 01 Where?
11:55 Speaker 04 It was like, Peter Jackson did like a Beatles documentary years ago.
12:00 Speaker 01 I need to start watching these fucking Beatles documentaries.
12:03 Speaker 04 It's good. It's colorized. It's like old, original footage that was black and white. It's been like re-edited and colorized and stuff. It was a good documentary, but there was a, like a premiere for it at the, who's the fella that did The Muppets? And there's that studio on La Brea. Jim Henson? Jim Henson Studios, yeah. This was years ago, and Ibeck was performing, doing covers of Beatles songs. And then I looked over and I was standing next to Orlando Bloom and I was like, that's cool.
12:30 Speaker 01 Right.
12:30 Speaker 04 And he was very handsome.
12:31 Speaker 01 He is so handsome.
12:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
12:33 Speaker 01 The most handsome.
12:34 Speaker 04 I didn't say hi, though.
12:34 Speaker 01 Yeah, well, that makes sense. Cause it's like, what do you say?
12:37 Speaker 04 I think I was wearing like purple corduroys at the time or something.
12:40 Speaker 01 Okay.
12:41 Speaker 04 So, I wasn't introducing myself.
12:43 Speaker 01 You don't like purple corduroys?
12:45 Speaker 04 Not as much anymore.
12:46 Speaker 01 Right.
12:46 Speaker 04 I used to have corduroys in like every, uh, color.
12:49 Speaker 01 Really?
12:50 Speaker 04 Yeah. I've had eras-
12:52 Speaker 01 Just like out of like, okay, tell me about your eras.
12:55 Speaker 04 Okay, so- Well, I mean, it started out when I was in high school, I wore, I did bow tie Tuesdays with one of my teachers. And we really thought it was gonna catch on, man. And we were like, everyone was like, come on, dude, wear bow ties Tuesday, you know, like, dress up a little bit, school.
13:10 Speaker 01 Oh, okay.
13:11 Speaker 04 Actually, I guess this was junior high, and we did it for a couple of years.
13:15 Speaker 01 So, so middle school?
13:16 Speaker 04 Middle school. But you know what? In middle school wasn't a real era. I remember being in, um, my counselor's office, where I found myself quite a bit in middle school. And I had been trying a fedora unironically, um, as, as an outfit choice to school.
13:34 Speaker 01 Oh.
13:34 Speaker 04 At like 6:30 in the morning, you know, we'd all be there, like, and I would have a fedora on already.
13:40 Speaker 01 You're creative.
13:41 Speaker 04 I was trying stuff. I've always tried stuff. And I remember, I'll never forget saying to Mrs. Kusak, my, um, counselor, "I just wanna be the guy who can wear a fedora and like be left alone about it."
13:52 Speaker 01 Okay, so you just didn't want people to like give you shit about the fedora, but you knew that they would give you shit about the fedora?
13:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, but I wanted to, I guess, own it in a way where nobody could say shit to me about it. But I wasn't bought in enough, I guess.
14:03 Speaker 01 Well, clearly, because you had to go to the guy's counselor's office to talk about the fedora. But did you eventually like have enough faith in the fedora?
14:13 Speaker 04 No, I think I retired the fedora.
14:15 Speaker 01 And then you did bow tie Tuesdays?
14:16 Speaker 04 And I did bow tie Tuesdays, and I was trying a lot of bomber jackets back then.
14:19 Speaker 01 You know what I've noticed about myself? A bomber jacket really does not look good on me.
14:23 Speaker 04 It's, the bomber jacket's universal. Everybody tries a bomber jacket once, you know?
14:27 Speaker 01 You, I've seen you in bomber jackets. You look good in bomber jackets because you're tall.
14:31 Speaker 04 Thanks for saying so.
14:32 Speaker 01 Of course. When I wear a bomber jacket, it, um, it makes me, it makes me look fat.
14:39 Speaker 04 No.
14:40 Speaker 01 Yes.
14:41 Speaker 04 No, it doesn't.
14:44 Speaker 01 Yes, it does. That and leather jackets. I can't wear leather jackets.
14:50 Speaker 04 Leather jackets are honestly tough. They're all different shapes, and some of them are so, like, I am this shape. You know what I mean?
14:57 Speaker 01 You'd be like boxy?
14:58 Speaker 04 Yes, boxy and like really sticking to it.
15:01 Speaker 01 Is it true you watch reality television?
15:03 Speaker 04 Um, ultimately, yes, but not a lot of it.
15:08 Speaker 01 What do you watch?
15:09 Speaker 04 Summer House has been my show.
15:10 Speaker 01 Just because of the whole to-do?
15:12 Speaker 04 Actually, yeah. No, I started watching season 10, and then the to-do happened.
15:16 Speaker 01 That's God.
15:19 Speaker 01 That's literally God.
15:20 Speaker 04 You said it. I it I came in at a good time, I guess. But it was interesting because I got into Summer House and like they'd been doing it for a decade.
15:28 Speaker 01 Right.
15:29 Speaker 04 And so I got like Kyle and Amanda like 10 years into their relationship and I was like, what is up with these two?
15:35 Speaker 01 I only watched a reunion.
15:36 Speaker 04 Okay, really?
15:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:37 Speaker 04 What's that about?
15:38 Speaker 01 I just never got into Summer House. I'm a Housewives guy.
15:41 Speaker 04 Okay, okay. I've seen some Housewives.
15:43 Speaker 01 What you seen?
15:44 Speaker 04 I I I think I've seen some um uh Salt Lake City, which is a popular one, right?
15:50 Speaker 01 My favorite.
15:50 Speaker 04 That's your that's a lot of favorites. I think my my sister's favorite too.
15:53 Speaker 01 My favorite.
15:54 Speaker 04 Okay, I've seen some of that and that's it's not as palatable for me.
15:59 Speaker 01 Oh, wait, you have siblings?
16:00 Speaker 04 Yes.
16:00 Speaker 01 How many siblings?
16:01 Speaker 04 I have two siblings. I'm the middle child.
16:03 Speaker 01 Wow, and what do they think about everything that's happened?
16:06 Speaker 04 I think they think it's good and cool. Um, we're very close and I miss them a lot, actually. Um, they think it's just kind of crazy. I mean, like my so I have an older brother and a younger sister. Um, and uh like yesterday I sent a screenshot of my lock screen, which was a notification from both the Chicago Bears and the Chicago Black Blackhawks, who had been messaging me on Instagram. I sent it to Patrick and I was like, this is my life now. And he was like, I don't even, don't even tell me that.
16:37 Speaker 01 Oh, that it is. It did happen quite fast.
16:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, it really did. Yeah.
16:41 Speaker 01 Were you expecting that at all?
16:44 Speaker 04 Um, no, no, no, no, no. I I mean, I I've and I think we really believed in the show. Um, we we knew we were making something special, but um the way that it's had this kind of cultural moment, I think, has surprised all of us.
16:59 Speaker 01 Yeah, it it's amazing.
17:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, but it's been cool, you know, like I've I've gotten to, you know, I've gotten closer with my favorite sports teams now and like I'll go get to watch Bears games, hopefully from like the sideline this fall and um, you know, like I've I've done some stuff with like the Chicago Blackhawks. Like I'm a big sports fan in Chicago.
17:16 Speaker 01 Oh, that's so fun.
17:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, I love them. I got caught a lot of games um this winter. Um, and now, you know, I'm building a bit of a relationship with them, which is really cool. I'm super excited.
17:26 Speaker 01 Can you like throw the first puck?
17:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's um, well, I threw the first pitch for the Chicago White Sox.
17:31 Speaker 01 I saw that.
17:32 Speaker 04 Which was really, really fun. Um, and the equivalent.
17:35 Speaker 01 I didn't see that.
17:36 Speaker 04 That's okay. I'm sorry, I couldn't I I. Why did you say, I mean, it was like, it wasn't a huge.
17:44 Speaker 01 I was gonna eat me alive, I'm so sorry.
17:47 Speaker 04 It's okay. I mean, I appreciate your, your honesty.
17:51 Speaker 01 So you threw the first pitch for the White Sox?
17:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
17:53 Speaker 01 They're great, by the way. I remember when I was a kid and my dad is a big Yankees fan. It would always be the White Sox and the Yankees would always be head and head.
18:01 Speaker 04 Yes. They, yeah, back then they were. The White Sox have been historically terrible for the previous three years. The White Sox actually recently, two years ago, set a record for the most losses in a season in all of baseball history. And as you know, baseball's been around for a long time.
18:17 Speaker 01 Maybe that's what I remember. Maybe I remember them being bad.
18:20 Speaker 04 Yes, they were bad, but they're having a really good season right now.
18:22 Speaker 01 Oh, good for them.
18:23 Speaker 04 Yes, I'm very happy.
18:24 Speaker 01 Cause of you?
18:24 Speaker 04 Well, after I threw the first pitch out, they've been on a tear.
18:28 Speaker 01 You brought the good energy.
18:29 Speaker 04 Yeah, and we have the Pope on our side, too. The Pope is a Chicago White Sox fan.
18:35 Speaker 04 The Pope's from Chicago.
18:36 Speaker 01 What?
18:37 Speaker 04 The Pope?
18:39 Speaker 01 The Pope isn't from, where's the Pope? Like, where does the Pope reside?
18:43 Speaker 04 Currently in the Vatican.
18:44 Speaker 01 In Italy?
18:45 Speaker 04 In Italy.
18:46 Speaker 01 So he's not Italian?
18:47 Speaker 04 Actually, I assume he's Italian because he's from Chicago, but he's, he looks like the Pope, you know? When you picture the Pope, that's him.
18:55 Speaker 01 No, no, no, no, and I've seen the film.
18:58 Speaker 04 Conclave or?
18:59 Speaker 01 Conclave.
18:59 Speaker 04 Yes.
19:00 Speaker 01 Conclave. So I've seen the film, so I remember the black smoke and all that.
19:03 Speaker 04 But he's the first American Pope, I believe. He's from, he's from Chicago.
19:06 Speaker 01 That's what, I think that's what jarred me so much.
19:08 Speaker 04 Yes, it is a little. It's, it's, that's a new thing.
19:11 Speaker 01 So what's his vibe all about?
19:13 Speaker 04 Uh, mostly White Sox baseball, as far as I can tell.
19:15 Speaker 01 Okay. You know why I know the Vatican? Because they went there in Twilight.
19:20 Speaker 04 Yes, they did. I watched that for the first time this year.
19:23 Speaker 01 What?
19:24 Speaker 04 Yeah, I know.
19:25 Speaker 01 You had just watched Twilight for the first time?
19:27 Speaker 04 I've only seen the first two, but I watched them, I believe, back to back.
19:30 Speaker 01 My god, the last one's the best one.
19:31 Speaker 04 I know, I really need to get through this year.
19:33 Speaker 01 So you don't know what happens in the last one?
19:35 Speaker 04 How many are there? Three or four?
19:37 Speaker 01 Five.
19:38 Speaker 04 Oh, and the fifth is the best one?
19:40 Speaker 01 You don't even understand. I saw that in theaters. So what you're about to see.
19:48 Speaker 04 Holy shit.
19:48 Speaker 01 Has anyone out there seen the fifth? So this, there is a part in the fifth, I'm just gonna say there's a part.
19:57 Speaker 04 Okay.
19:58 Speaker 01 Oh, my full body chills, like remembering being in the theater. I was 13 years old.
20:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
20:02 Speaker 01 And the entire theater just going, woo.
20:06 Speaker 04 Holy shit. You know, honestly, I don't think I know what this moment is.
20:10 Speaker 01 You don't? Cause you can't know, or else the whole movie's ruined.
20:14 Speaker 04 I don't know what it is. I do know that there's a pregnancy coming up.
20:17 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, the AI baby?
20:19 Speaker 04 Yes, that's, this is what I'm really looking forward to.
20:20 Speaker 01 Or CGI, before AI, there was CGI.
20:23 Speaker 04 That's right.
20:23 Speaker 01 And it was a CGI, it's a CGI baby. And you, by the way, you can tell that shit is CGI. The baby is like literally floating in her arms.
20:31 Speaker 04 And why do you think they couldn't use a real baby for that?
20:34 Speaker 01 It was a hot topic at the time. It wasn't one I was tapped into.
20:38 Speaker 04 Okay.
20:38 Speaker 01 But it was very confusing.
20:41 Speaker 04 Is there, is the baby like half vampire or half?
20:45 Speaker 01 Yes, the baby is half vampire, but it doesn't make sense. And by the way, when she gives birth.
20:51 Speaker 04 This is what I've heard about.
20:53 Speaker 01 Cause just like imagine giving birth to a monster.
20:55 Speaker 04 Right, right.
20:56 Speaker 01 Like, you know what I mean? Cause that's what vampires are at the end of the day. They're monsters.
20:59 Speaker 04 Holy shit, that's a real slant against vampires.
21:02 Speaker 01 Question?
21:02 Speaker 04 Yes.
21:03 Speaker 01 Was Off Campus, did it start production? Was it in production prior to Heated Rivalry?
21:10 Speaker 04 How did you get there from vampires?
21:11 Speaker 01 Because, and I'll tell you why, because the hockey obsession we have as a culture right now
21:17 Speaker 04 Yeah.
21:17 Speaker 01 was similar to the vampire obsession we had back then.
21:21 Speaker 04 Okay, yeah, that's a good parallel.
21:22 Speaker 01 So it went vampires.
21:24 Speaker 04 Hmm.
21:25 Speaker 01 Uh, young teen dystopian. So you had like
21:29 Speaker 04 Oh.
21:29 Speaker 01 um, Divergent, Hunger Games, now you have hockey.
21:32 Speaker 04 Right.
21:33 Speaker 01 So.
21:34 Speaker 04 Oh, that's cool.
21:34 Speaker 01 When did Off Campus start to get into production?
21:38 Speaker 04 We started production, uh, in May of last summer, but we, uh, Louisa, our creator and showrunner, started developing it, I like, I think two years before that.
21:51 Speaker 01 Oh, wow. So before Heated Rivalry?
21:54 Speaker 04 We had been developing, and I don't know, I don't exactly recall when they shot.
22:01 Speaker 04 Uh, it might've been
22:02 Speaker 01 Last summer.
22:03 Speaker 04 Around the same time that we were shooting as well.
22:05 Speaker 01 Yeah.
22:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
22:06 Speaker 01 Have you guys spoken to any of them?
22:07 Speaker 04 Um, yeah, Hudson and I have, uh, correspondence. Well, we both, uh, use Aika Flores, uh, who's our groomer. And she does our, our hair and face.
22:16 Speaker 01 Well, you know, we both use the same stylist.
22:19 Speaker 04 Yes, we do.
22:20 Speaker 01 Sydney! Hi, Sydney!
22:21 Speaker 04 Hi, Sydney!
22:24 Speaker 04 I've been with Sydney since day one and that's kind of-
22:28 Speaker 01 Wait, since, for how long?
22:30 Speaker 04 Well, way after the fedora, but, but like since I got my first job where I needed a stylist when I did Saved by the Bell in 2020, I think we started working together.
22:39 Speaker 01 What? Oh wait, so you've known Sydney longer than me?
22:42 Speaker 04 Yeah. Oh yeah.
22:44 Speaker 01 Oh.
22:45 Speaker 04 Oh yeah.
22:45 Speaker 01 I thought this was a recent thing.
22:48 Speaker 04 No, no, Sydney's been dressing me since, yeah, the very beginning.
22:50 Speaker 01 She's the best.
22:51 Speaker 04 She is the best.
22:52 Speaker 01 Well Belmont, what are you therapist about today?
22:55 Speaker 04 Jeez, you know?
22:58 Speaker 04 I'm hungry and I'm tired Jake.
23:01 Speaker 01 Oh, okay, well, so we can get you food if you want.
23:07 Speaker 01 Get you a Celsius.
23:08 Speaker 04 Honestly, beyond that, I'm not really too therapist about anything.
23:11 Speaker 01 Oh, well, let me tell you about mine.
23:14 Speaker 04 Please.
23:16 Speaker 01 I'm so addicted to weed and I know it's a problem.
23:19 Speaker 04 Are you?
23:19 Speaker 01 Yes.
23:20 Speaker 04 Oh my God, let's talk about that. I used to be addicted to weed.
23:22 Speaker 01 What happened? How did you stop? I can't stop. It's all I think about. I wake up, I'm like, I want to smoke right now. And by the way, I took a break for nine months. I took a break for nine months and then all of a sudden Sky was like, this guy was like, do you want to smoke? I was like, yeah, I do actually. I was nine months sober at the time and I did it and I've been on the wagon ever since and like it's-
23:45 Speaker 04 What is it like when you're high?
23:47 Speaker 01 Okay, so some may say I'm the best high in America.
23:50 Speaker 04 Whoa, okay.
23:51 Speaker 01 Some may say, Louise will say, that's not true.
23:56 Speaker 01 Louise will say I'm the worst, but that's not true. She's wrong. I am the best high in America. It, it gets to a point though, after the first, so the first 10 minutes, if you're, if we get high, well, you don't smoke anymore. If we got high together, the first 10 minutes are bliss.
24:12 Speaker 04 For you or for everybody?
24:14 Speaker 01 For everyone.
24:14 Speaker 04 Okay.
24:15 Speaker 01 It is like a show for the ages that I'll put on. Like it is like everything lands. If the joke doesn't land, I acknowledge that it doesn't land and then everyone's like, ha, ha, ha, ha. It's so good.
24:26 Speaker 04 Yep.
24:27 Speaker 01 Then the next, um, like two hours are really bad.
24:31 Speaker 04 Also for everybody.
24:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
24:34 Speaker 04 Okay, so you've, so you've ten good minutes.
24:38 Speaker 01 Yes.
24:39 Speaker 04 And then you have two hours of, of it not being good until.
24:43 Speaker 01 It's like my want to like crawl out of my body and my skin.
24:47 Speaker 04 This is why I had to stop.
24:48 Speaker 01 You know what I mean?
24:49 Speaker 04 I couldn't do it anymore. Is your frontal lobe fully developed? It is.
24:53 Speaker 01 Yes, it is.
24:54 Speaker 04 It is, and congratulations, by the way.
24:56 Speaker 01 Thank you so much. And it's so funny you say that because the other day it fully developed.
25:01 Speaker 04 Did you hear it click into place?
25:02 Speaker 01 I just was walking one and I was like, oh.
25:07 Speaker 04 It's kind of like that, actually.
25:08 Speaker 01 And I was like, oh, and I called Louise and I was like, oh my god. I just realized something. Oh my god.
25:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
25:15 Speaker 01 And she was like, no, yeah.
25:16 Speaker 04 It is like that.
25:17 Speaker 01 But my Saturn is returning. And I know that because my body is starting to hurt.
25:23 Speaker 04 Your Saturn is returning?
25:26 Speaker 01 How old are you?
25:27 Speaker 04 Twenty-eight years old.
25:28 Speaker 01 Oh, yours is in the midst of it.
25:29 Speaker 04 Well, my frontal lobe is.
25:31 Speaker 01 No, but your Saturn is returning.
25:32 Speaker 04 Does that have to do, that's not the brain also?
25:34 Speaker 01 Oh, no, but so basically.
25:37 Speaker 04 Do we all have a Saturn?
25:39 Speaker 01 Louise, please.
25:41 Speaker 05 Saturn is in the same place every twenty-eight to thirty years as where it was when you were first born. So it's like.
25:48 Speaker 04 Oh.
25:49 Speaker 05 I mean, every time I explain it, I'm like, am I explaining it exactly?
25:53 Speaker 01 So basically, when you turn twenty-seven.
25:55 Speaker 04 Hmm.
25:56 Speaker 01 E- everything started to change. It's a Katie Musgraves song. Um, everything starts to change. Everything starts to change. And you get like sent in, like you get presented with a bunch of decisions and they're hard decisions and life like just kind of sucks dick for three years.
26:13 Speaker 04 Oh.
26:13 Speaker 01 But in your case, it's going great.
26:15 Speaker 04 No, that happened to me a little earlier.
26:17 Speaker 01 Okay, for some people it happens earlier. For me, I don't know, my wrist hurts, my back hurts, like, I'm like feeling it in my body. Like, I think my Saturn is coming.
26:27 Speaker 04 Okay, and so that's when it comes back around to the same place that it once was.
26:31 Speaker 01 When you were born.
26:32 Speaker 04 Right.
26:32 Speaker 01 Basically, just like realigning your life, being like, what do you need?
26:36 Speaker 04 What's happened to your wrist?
26:37 Speaker 01 I have De Quervin's tendonitis.
26:40 Speaker 04 Okay.
26:41 Speaker 01 Um, it's basically when the tendon is really inflamed. And it it like so, but it's right now it's like fine, but like a week ago. If I went like this, this right here, like that.
26:54 Speaker 04 Yeah.
26:54 Speaker 01 The tendon, I think that's what that is.
26:56 Speaker 04 Yep.
26:57 Speaker 01 Pops over the muscle.
26:58 Speaker 04 Oh, that sounds painful.
26:59 Speaker 01 It's feels like someone's lighting a match to your tendon.
27:03 Speaker 04 Hmm.
27:04 Speaker 01 As it's going over the muscle.
27:05 Speaker 04 I'm sorry.
27:06 Speaker 01 Oh, no, it's okay. I just made up my whole personality for like a month, but it's fine now.
27:09 Speaker 04 But also, because is this affecting your routine?
27:13 Speaker 01 Yeah.
27:14 Speaker 04 Jake, you've been in the gym like nobody's business, brother.
27:17 Speaker 01 Yeah. How do you know that?
27:20 Speaker 04 Jake, I follow you on Instagram, you dingus.
27:22 Speaker 01 I know.
27:25 Speaker 01 I have been in the gym, okay?
27:26 Speaker 04 Yeah, you have. How long has your fitness journey been going on now?
27:29 Speaker 01 Three years. And it's very humbling to see before and afters. So I was like, you know.
27:34 Speaker 04 Yeah. That's what it's all about.
27:36 Speaker 01 I was.
27:37 Speaker 04 Progress.
27:38 Speaker 01 I was in the gym.
27:39 Speaker 04 Hmm.
27:39 Speaker 01 And I was doing pull ups.
27:41 Speaker 04 Yeah.
27:42 Speaker 01 And my wrist hurt one morning and I knew I should have just like let it go. But I kept doing them.
27:48 Speaker 04 Okay.
27:48 Speaker 01 And then I got like a massage on the wrist, which made it kind of worse. And then.
27:54 Speaker 04 The good old wrist massage.
27:55 Speaker 01 And then I, and then I started traveling. And then once I started traveling, it was, it was game over. I got a cortisone shot, traveled the next day, so the shot didn't do shit because like also, well, I went to the first doctor and the first doctor was like, here's your cortisone shot and here's steroids. And then I went to his second doctor and he was like, he gave you a shot in like the most random place of your arms. But he was really hot, the first one, so I wasn't complaining.
28:17 Speaker 04 Thank you, sir. May I have an honor?
28:18 Speaker 01 But now the cortisone shot is really working, so I'm going to start working out again tomorrow.
28:22 Speaker 04 Great.
28:22 Speaker 01 But I've been smoking a lot, so I'm really out of breath.
28:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
28:25 Speaker 01 And so it's gonna be hard to get back in there, but I'm gonna go back in.
28:28 Speaker 04 Okay, let's go back real quick and I'll tell you how I stopped full.
28:31 Speaker 01 Yes, please, please.
28:32 Speaker 04 Smoking weed.
28:33 Speaker 01 Tell me what happened.
28:34 Speaker 04 So I don't know what happened because I had been smoking weed a lot, like pretty much daily for a very long time since like, you know, high school. And then at some point, I guess this was when I was. Twenty-three?
28:50 Speaker 01 Shit.
28:50 Speaker 04 No, no, no. It was later than that. It was around twenty-four, twenty-five.
28:54 Speaker 01 Okay, that's when I stopped.
28:55 Speaker 04 When every time, and this was like nightly, you know, because it's routine. Um, I would like, I would just freak out. I would like feel my bones in my body and like be like, you know, I would have the classic paranoia. It was like every single time and it was kind of like you where the first, you know, ten minutes was like, ooh wee, very exciting.
29:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
29:14 Speaker 04 And then the rest was like really kind of unbearable. So I couldn't do it anymore. On New Year's Eve, I smoked all the weed in the house altogether. Got really scared, really reminded myself why I'm not doing this anymore. And then for like a week, it was tough. Like at the end of the day, you know, when I'd done all my stuff, like not to spark up a joint.
29:33 Speaker 01 All you want to do is smoke.
29:34 Speaker 04 But it only took a week, maybe ten days.
29:36 Speaker 01 I know, I know.
29:37 Speaker 04 And you've done it before.
29:38 Speaker 01 I think I'm gonna stop when I go to Paris.
29:41 Speaker 04 Does getting high affect your dreams?
29:43 Speaker 01 I don't, I don't dream.
29:44 Speaker 04 Okay, see, this is it. When I was smoking weed, I never dreamed. And when I, like in your nine months, did you start dreaming more?
29:51 Speaker 01 Yeah, and I have the worst fucking dreams. I have dreams that my teeth are falling out. I have dreams that my bones are being pulled from me. Pretty sure Louise was pulling my bones once.
30:01 Speaker 04 Pulling your bones?
30:03 Speaker 01 Yes, I think you were.
30:05 Speaker 04 That's terrible.
30:06 Speaker 01 Yes, pulling them apart.
30:08 Speaker 04 Do you have any good dreams?
30:10 Speaker 01 What?
30:10 Speaker 04 Do you have any good dreams, fun dreams?
30:12 Speaker 01 I never have a good dream.
30:16 Speaker 01 Louise, do you hear that? Do you hear that?
30:18 Speaker 05 I hear it, I hear it.
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31:13 Speaker 01 You guys know that I'm very, very open about my OCD experience on here. OCD can look like a million different things. It can look like your brain making up random rules in order to get good luck or bad luck. That's wishful thinking OCD, or that's magical thinking OCD. You could have to like blurt out things that you think, which is confession OCD. And OCD, if you don't know, stands for obsessive compulsive disorder. Basically is just really ruminating on the same thought over and over and over and over again, and it can manifest in so many different, so many different ways. I have struggled with it since I was seven years old. I remember literally, I used to have to touch things evenly. It was horrible. It's really horrible. A lot of people don't talk about it, but NOCD does.
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33:36 Speaker 01 What are you watching on TV right now?
33:39 Speaker 04 I don't really watch a lot of TV.
33:42 Speaker 04 I really don't. When I'm at home, I like, I don't ever have the TV on.
33:46 Speaker 01 You gotta turn it on.
33:47 Speaker 04 What do I watch?
33:48 Speaker 01 Widows Bay.
33:49 Speaker 04 Oh, I heard this was good.
33:50 Speaker 01 It's fucking fantastic.
33:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
33:53 Speaker 01 Fantastic.
33:54 Speaker 04 Hell, yeah.
33:55 Speaker 01 It's the best show on television.
33:56 Speaker 04 Whoa!
33:57 Speaker 01 It's the best show on television.
33:58 Speaker 04 Okay.
33:58 Speaker 01 It's funny, it's scary, it's with Matthew Reese.
34:01 Speaker 04 Yep.
34:01 Speaker 01 Who's just to die for.
34:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
34:03 Speaker 01 Have you ever seen Homeland?
34:04 Speaker 04 Nope. There's a couple of shows that I really like, but they only come out every so often.
34:09 Speaker 01 Okay.
34:09 Speaker 04 The Severance is...
34:11 Speaker 01 Oh, if you love Severance, then you need to watch Widows Bay.
34:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
34:14 Speaker 01 It's like the same type of spooky, funny vibe.
34:16 Speaker 04 Okay, great, great, great.
34:17 Speaker 01 And it's both on Apple TV Plus.
34:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
34:20 Speaker 01 What type of show do you like? Cause I'll give you a show to watch right now.
34:23 Speaker 04 I like a really hard comedy, jokes per minute, 30-minute episodic comedy.
34:28 Speaker 01 Oh, you should watch Hacks.
34:30 Speaker 04 I haven't seen Hacks.
34:30 Speaker 01 You should watch Hacks.
34:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, okay.
34:31 Speaker 01 Hacks is like one of the funniest shows on television.
34:33 Speaker 04 Okay, yes.
34:34 Speaker 01 Watch Hacks. What, have you seen Girls?
34:36 Speaker 04 I've seen some of Girls.
34:37 Speaker 01 Okay, well, you have to watch the whole thing of Girls.
34:38 Speaker 04 Yes, I do. Yeah, yeah.
34:39 Speaker 01 I think that's about it for me.
34:41 Speaker 04 Yeah, and then I like a big, heady drama.
34:44 Speaker 01 Like drama in what sense? Like supernatural?
34:47 Speaker 04 No, um, well, I guess like, like an Adam McKay, like kind of like, like Severance being a good example, or like, um, Mad Men, or like, like a intellectual drama.
34:59 Speaker 01 Really?
34:59 Speaker 04 Yeah. I think, um, you should, it's great.
35:02 Speaker 01 Apparently, it's amazing.
35:03 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:04 Speaker 01 People love it.
35:05 Speaker 04 Yeah.
35:05 Speaker 01 I just never got it.
35:08 Speaker 04 Did you try? Did you try it and didn't get it?
35:11 Speaker 01 I tried episode one, and I said, okay. My parents were like, well, you have to go to bed, we need to watch Mad Men. And I was like, what are you waiting? Like, what's going on? It's so, cause every episode I would watch was so like melancholy and like solemn. And I'm like, where's the, there's nothing exciting happening.
35:28 Speaker 04 Or have you seen like, have you seen Breaking Bad?
35:30 Speaker 01 Of course.
35:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, and did you see Better Call Saul?
35:33 Speaker 01 No, and I've heard it's better.
35:34 Speaker 04 It's, it's just as good, if not better.
35:36 Speaker 01 What do you mean?
35:37 Speaker 04 It's fucking incredible.
35:38 Speaker 01 Why? Tell me why.
35:40 Speaker 04 Um, well, so Bob Odenkirk, I mean, you love him in that role.
35:44 Speaker 01 Love.
35:44 Speaker 04 In Breaking Bad.
35:45 Speaker 01 Yes.
35:46 Speaker 04 Um, he went to my high school, by the way.
35:47 Speaker 01 Okay, he's Saul.
35:49 Speaker 04 He's Saul, all day, every day, baby.
35:50 Speaker 01 Okay.
35:51 Speaker 04 And, uh, Racy Horn is phenomenal in it. And, I mean, all the performances are great. But it tells the story of Saul kind of backwards. It starts way before you meet him in Breaking Bad. And so, like, his name isn't Saul Goodman when you meet him.
36:08 Speaker 01 What?
36:08 Speaker 04 No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He's.
36:10 Speaker 01 Fake name?
36:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, he's, he's got a lot going on before he gets to the point where you meet him in Breaking Bad. And so it's all of that. And it's phenomenally, I mean, it's Vince Gilligan, too. It's so well-written.
36:21 Speaker 01 So what type of music do you listen to?
36:23 Speaker 04 All kinds of music.
36:24 Speaker 01 Tell me, are you Spotify or Apple Music?
36:27 Speaker 04 Oh, Spotify.
36:28 Speaker 01 Right?
36:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
36:29 Speaker 01 I never understood Apple Music.
36:31 Speaker 04 Well, I got Spotify, like, when there was, like, a student discount back in the day.
36:35 Speaker 01 I got it in 2013.
36:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, probably right around then.
36:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
36:39 Speaker 04 Um, I'm a Spotify guy. I listen to everything. I listen to all sorts of stuff all the time.
36:44 Speaker 01 What are you listening to right now?
36:45 Speaker 04 I'm listening to a new artist that I just can't get enough of. Um, their name is, uh, Blue Brigada.
36:50 Speaker 01 Okay.
36:51 Speaker 04 These two fellows from New Zealand that are now out of New York. And they just make some, like, really fucking solid alternative rock jams.
37:00 Speaker 01 Like melodic?
37:02 Speaker 04 Some stuff, yeah, some stuff. But it's like, it's just like good, like, it's just solid alt-rock.
37:09 Speaker 01 What else would you consider alt-rock?
37:12 Speaker 04 I don't know.
37:12 Speaker 01 Like Vampire Weekend wouldn't be considered alt-rock?
37:14 Speaker 04 Yeah.
37:15 Speaker 01 Oh, then I would like them.
37:16 Speaker 04 I love, do you like Vampire Weekend?
37:18 Speaker 01 I love Vampire Weekend.
37:20 Speaker 04 One of the best days of live, live music I've ever seen.
37:23 Speaker 01 Oh, I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous. I'm so jealous.
37:25 Speaker 04 Just hear me out.
37:26 Speaker 01 I'm hearing you out.
37:28 Speaker 04 It was at La Palooza in Chicago.
37:30 Speaker 01 Of course it was.
37:31 Speaker 04 And it was a full day. We spent the whole day at the stage, didn't leave to pee or anything. And the first up, the first act up was Vampire Weekend. And then Two Door Cinema Club, and then Phoenix headlined, all on the same stage. And by the end of the day, we were, like, right up front for Phoenix. And it was one of the greatest concert experiences I've ever had. Are you fans of the other, those other two bands, too?
37:53 Speaker 01 Yes. What, what is Two Door Cinema Club saying that I just love?
37:57 Speaker 04 I can't tell, it's what you know.
38:00 Speaker 01 Yes! Love that song. I love that song. How was it live?
38:05 Speaker 04 It was amazing. I mean, all of it was great.
38:07 Speaker 01 Vampire Weekend?
38:09 Speaker 01 Did they, they do it for me every time.
38:13 Speaker 04 Me too.
38:13 Speaker 01 Do you, what's your favorite album?
38:15 Speaker 04 I should know the names. Cape Cod, Quasimbo, is that the name of the song?
38:18 Speaker 01 Yeah, Cape Cod, Quasimbo, that's off their first or second.
38:21 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:21 Speaker 01 Their, I think it's their third album, Modern Vampires of the City or whatever.
38:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
38:25 Speaker 01 Changed my life.
38:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, they're incredible.
38:28 Speaker 01 Changed my life. That's, do you know the song Step?
38:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, of course. I know their whole.
38:32 Speaker 01 Did they do that at La Palooza?
38:34 Speaker 04 I don't recall. This would have been like over 10 years ago.
38:36 Speaker 01 Oh, so maybe no. But Step is one of my favorite songs of all time. I actually just kind of had.
38:40 Speaker 04 It's a good, it's a great song.
38:41 Speaker 01 Yeah, I just had a similar out of body experience at a concert. I saw The Strokes.
38:45 Speaker 04 Nice. Um, I've seen The Strokes as well.
38:48 Speaker 01 They're amazing.
38:48 Speaker 04 Also at La Palooza, um, and they're fantastic. They have new stuff out, I think.
38:53 Speaker 01 They do, and it's really good.
38:54 Speaker 04 Yeah?
38:55 Speaker 01 So fucking good.
38:57 Speaker 04 Does Spotify, are there a couple of songs on Spotify that Spotify just like, is like, this is your favorite song? And I'm gonna put it on every single playlist that you make. Every time you hit go to radio, it's like, here's this song again, here's this song again. Does that happen to you?
39:12 Speaker 01 No, because I'm a, I'm a cueer.
39:14 Speaker 04 Okay.
39:15 Speaker 01 So I'll always cue, but if it, if it go, and if it goes to like, no, and I haven't honestly, are you talking about the stuff that they'll like always autoplay?
39:25 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's just like.
39:25 Speaker 01 What's yours?
39:26 Speaker 04 Like, one of mine is The Adults Are Talking.
39:28 Speaker 01 Best.
39:29 Speaker 04 Which I love, I love, but honestly, like Spotify plays it for me every single day.
39:33 Speaker 01 Well, cause they know you.
39:35 Speaker 04 They, but it's almost like, don't, but instead of knowing me so well, try to get to know me, you know, like, ask me some questions.
39:43 Speaker 01 Right, ask quest, well, I think their version of asking questions is the songs you add to the playlists.
39:47 Speaker 04 Right.
39:48 Speaker 01 In general.
39:49 Speaker 04 And I'm a bad playlist maker.
39:51 Speaker 01 I, okay, so I only have one playlist every year, and it's the year that I am. So, right now I'm 26, so my playlist is called 26.
40:00 Speaker 04 Yeah.
40:00 Speaker 01 I'll send it to you after this.
40:01 Speaker 04 I can't wait to listen to like seven.
40:03 Speaker 01 It's just all of the, it's like my musical diary. So I've done it since I was 18.
40:09 Speaker 04 That's really cool.
40:10 Speaker 01 Yeah.
40:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Please send it to me.
40:12 Speaker 01 I will. But the 18 one, it went from 18 to 22 because I was at college, so I just called it USC.
40:19 Speaker 04 Word.
40:20 Speaker 01 And I remember exactly where I was for each, most, most of, like, 20% of the songs.
40:24 Speaker 04 Do they end up being huge playlists, or are you pretty particular about what you keep on there?
40:27 Speaker 01 The USC one is like. At least over a thousand songs.
40:32 Speaker 04 Holy fuck.
40:32 Speaker 01 Because it was over four years.
40:34 Speaker 04 Yeah, oh, okay, okay.
40:35 Speaker 01 But then I had twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-five, and twenty-six.
40:38 Speaker 04 What years, when were you in college?
40:41 Speaker 01 I was in college from eighteen to twenty-two. Oh, what year?
40:46 Speaker 04 Oh, so you went after high school?
40:48 Speaker 01 Right.
40:48 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Until you graduated.
40:52 Speaker 01 Um, I was in college from twenty-
40:57 Speaker 01 I was in college from twenty-eighteen to twenty-twenty-two.
41:00 Speaker 04 Right, which by the way-
41:01 Speaker 01 Which is why I got confused because I was eighteen in twenty-eighteen, please.
41:06 Speaker 04 You were born in the year two thousand.
41:07 Speaker 01 I was born in nineteen ninety-nine.
41:08 Speaker 04 Oh.
41:09 Speaker 01 At the very end.
41:10 Speaker 04 Tail end, huh?
41:11 Speaker 01 Yeah.
41:12 Speaker 04 Man, wouldn't that have sucked if the world did end and you were just like a couple of weeks old?
41:16 Speaker 01 No, it would have been amazing because I wouldn't have known what was happening.
41:18 Speaker 04 True, you wouldn't have felt anything.
41:19 Speaker 01 I would have been like, oh, I just died.
41:21 Speaker 04 You'd still be wailing and then-
41:22 Speaker 01 Yeah, I would have just died. Are you scared of death?
41:25 Speaker 04 Honestly, um, I, I've been scared of death more, in a good way, I think.
41:31 Speaker 01 So-
41:32 Speaker 04 I've been thinking about it kind of a lot in the last, I don't know, chapter.
41:36 Speaker 01 Really?
41:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, it's come back. I grew up really Catholic, so that was always, I was super fearful of hell.
41:42 Speaker 01 Are you still Cath- are you still Catholic?
41:44 Speaker 04 I don't, I'm not practicing.
41:45 Speaker 01 Okay, you're not practicing, but like, do you like believe in a God?
41:47 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah, I believe in a Creator, yeah, but I'm, I'm not, I don't, I don't pray or-
41:51 Speaker 01 That's how I feel as well.
41:52 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:52 Speaker 01 But I never like practiced anything, I'm just like, I know there's some shit up there.
41:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, no doubt.
41:56 Speaker 01 You know what I mean?
41:56 Speaker 04 Yeah, there's gotta be.
41:57 Speaker 01 There has to be.
41:58 Speaker 04 Too much shit happened for us to hear for-
42:00 Speaker 01 And that's fine.
42:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
42:02 Speaker 01 Why, why are you scared of death?
42:04 Speaker 04 Well, just the permanence, I think.
42:06 Speaker 01 Yeah, that is it.
42:08 Speaker 04 Uh, yeah, well, the presumed permanence, permanence, you know?
42:10 Speaker 01 It is permanent.
42:11 Speaker 04 We don't know, though, you know, it could be-
42:13 Speaker 01 I, do you believe in reincarnation?
42:16 Speaker 04 I, listen, um, I would love, I, I don't, I don't know, but hell, yeah, I want to be an animal.
42:23 Speaker 01 I don't.
42:25 Speaker 04 You know what's fun to think about? What animal would you be, though?
42:28 Speaker 01 I wouldn't. I want, I want to-
42:30 Speaker 04 You could have already been and not even know.
42:31 Speaker 01 Be reincarnated as a supermodel. Girl.
42:35 Speaker 04 Human.
42:36 Speaker 01 I want to be reincarnated as a supermodel. Really badly. And I want to like, literally like, be like, oh my god, you are like, in my new life, like, just like, you are so pretty, like, do you want to be a model? And I'd be like, oh my god, sure. And then, you know, everything just happens after that.
42:52 Speaker 04 You want to be reincarnated to an existing, living person?
42:59 Speaker 01 Did you go to college?
43:00 Speaker 04 Uh, very briefly, I went for one year.
43:02 Speaker 01 Where?
43:02 Speaker 04 University of Illinois.
43:04 Speaker 01 Right.
43:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, Urbana-Champaign. I, um, in some ways, yes, and in some ways, no.
43:10 Speaker 01 Got it.
43:10 Speaker 04 Yeah.
43:11 Speaker 01 Why'd you drop out?
43:12 Speaker 04 Uh, I did not want to go to college.
43:14 Speaker 01 I get that.
43:15 Speaker 04 I was a business student, I was like a finance major. Uh, and I wanted to be a filmmaker, so I got the fuck out of there.
43:21 Speaker 01 And you just took off and moved to LA?
43:23 Speaker 04 Um, almost, you know, I like moved to the city, I moved to Chicago, um, for like a year and a half. And I was modeling then to pay the bills and support myself. And then I got an agent in Chicago and a manager out in LA, so then I moved to LA.
43:38 Speaker 01 Tell me about the audition process for Off Campus. Like, what did that look like?
43:42 Speaker 04 It was different for, I think all of us kind of had a different experience doing it. Um, I, I didn't audition as Garrett until the very last day of auditions. Um, I, I had met with our showrunners, Luisa and Gina, we zoomed. Um, and they kind of pitched me the season one arc and the character. Uh, we, I had questions for them about their project and we talked about it. Um, and so then they did a chemistry read where there were 28 actors. They cast all six or seven leads in the same day. So a lot of people there were going out for a couple of characters. Um, you know, each role had like four, five actors that were there going out for it, it was crazy. But that was my first part of the audition and it was the last part of the process, so,
44:27 Speaker 04 um, I was there until the bitter end. I had to stay and like, do stuff by myself so they could have tape of me, um, because I hadn't submitted anything yet.
44:35 Speaker 01 Oh, so it was like The Hunger Games?
44:37 Speaker 04 It was just like The Hunger Games and when somebody was sent home, there was a big gong.
44:41 Speaker 01 Yeah.
44:42 Speaker 04 Yeah. It was a crazy day. I've never, I've done, you know, I've gotten to the end of audition processes like that before, but that was like, there were so many people in one of those buildings on the brea with no windows and just like, you know, bad lighting and we were there. I was there for like probably 12 hours.
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46:25 Speaker 01 Do you like to party?
46:26 Speaker 04 Yeah.
46:26 Speaker 01 I love to party.
46:27 Speaker 04 Yeah, I love to party. We like to party.
46:29 Speaker 01 I love to party.
46:30 Speaker 04 Yeah, we like to party.
46:31 Speaker 01 What's your drink of choice?
46:33 Speaker 04 Well, it kind of depends. I'm like, is tonight a tequila night or a whiskey night? And so like, I had a couple of tequila nights lately. Well, I've been in town here.
46:44 Speaker 01 Well, I'm a child, so I drink vodka.
46:46 Speaker 04 Oh, Jake.
46:47 Speaker 01 I know.
46:48 Speaker 04 With lemonade or cranberry?
46:50 Speaker 01 Yes. I do vodka cranberries, vodka lemonades, vodka, okay. And then if I'm like, you know, I'm like, I'm like, you guys, I'm on a diet. I'll get a vodka soda with a splash of cranberry.
47:01 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:01 Speaker 01 And then I'll get, well, my ultimate drink, my favorite drink of all time is vodka Red Bull.
47:09 Speaker 04 Yeah. And were you just fucking slugging those at USC?
47:12 Speaker 01 No, I was slugging AMFs. So do you not, do you know what, can I tell you what an AMF is?
47:19 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:19 Speaker 01 It's called an Adios, motherfucker.
47:21 Speaker 04 Oh, okay.
47:22 Speaker 01 I don't know what's in them, but they were blue. Had you ever drank an AMF? What? What was your drink? Like ranch water?
47:33 Speaker 05 Um, I don't know what I would drink.
47:35 Speaker 04 What? It was like.
47:36 Speaker 01 No, I did AMFs.
47:37 Speaker 04 Whiskey cokes and stuff for me.
47:39 Speaker 01 You never did like a Long Island iced tea?
47:41 Speaker 04 No, I, I, I did.
47:42 Speaker 01 I broke my wrist on a Long Island iced tea.
47:45 Speaker 04 Maybe that's, is that the impetus of this injury?
47:47 Speaker 01 Yeah.
47:48 Speaker 04 On, on a Long Island iced tea?
47:51 Speaker 01 I drank like, I was in high school. I drank a bunch of Long Island iced teas at this place.
47:54 Speaker 04 You were on a Long Island iced tea?
47:55 Speaker 01 I was, yeah.
47:56 Speaker 04 Yeah.
47:57 Speaker 01 And I went on my friend's shoulders in the street and fell and broke my wrist. And they were like, you're fine. And this lady walked by us and was like, are you okay? Your wrist is bruised and swollen and big. And then I, I got in the car cab and we, we drove to the hospital and then my friends left me. And then my parents met me and my mom was like, oh my God, are you okay? And I was like, I'm drunk and she, I've never in my life seen her so mad at, ever in my entire life. Cause she thought someone was gonna call social services. Because they would think that she gave me the alcohol and they had to give me like, um, morphine for the pain. But I had to tell them I was drunk.
48:35 Speaker 04 Oh.
48:36 Speaker 01 And then I threw up all over the doctor.
48:39 Speaker 04 Did you really?
48:39 Speaker 01 Yeah. He snapped my bone back in the place and I went, bleh. And I threw up all over the doctor.
48:43 Speaker 04 Was he hot or no?
48:46 Speaker 01 You know, actually, he was bad looking.
48:48 Speaker 04 Okay. It's kind of makes it worse.
48:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
48:53 Speaker 01 I don't think he was bad looking, but bone shit bugs me the fuck out. I can do needles. I'm actually so good with needles.
48:59 Speaker 04 Me too.
49:00 Speaker 01 Really?
49:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
49:00 Speaker 01 Do you get IVs a lot?
49:02 Speaker 04 No. I mean, I, I'll, I, I give blood once in a while and then I get, you know, like, you know, I have a physical every year. Yeah. That's needles.
49:11 Speaker 01 You give blood for like the greater good?
49:13 Speaker 04 Sometimes.
49:14 Speaker 01 Just like you wake up, you're like, I want to give blood today.
49:18 Speaker 04 I've been, I've been, I've been making blood all the time, too.
49:21 Speaker 01 Oh, what?
49:24 Speaker 01 What do you mean you be making blood?
49:25 Speaker 04 We're like currently in the throes of making a bunch of blood.
49:28 Speaker 01 Right now.
49:29 Speaker 04 As we sit here speaking to each other, yeah. Have you broken bones besides your wrist?
49:32 Speaker 01 Just my wrist.
49:33 Speaker 04 Okay.
49:34 Speaker 01 Have you broken bones?
49:35 Speaker 04 I've broken a lot of bones, yeah.
49:36 Speaker 01 What bones?
49:37 Speaker 04 Both of my clavicles.
49:38 Speaker 01 What's a clavicle?
49:39 Speaker 04 The collarbone.
49:40 Speaker 01 Is that why he calls it clavicular?
49:42 Speaker 04 I think so, right?
49:44 Speaker 01 Right?
49:45 Speaker 04 Yeah. But like, the clavicle isn't the most like, why?
49:48 Speaker 01 Wait, you broke both of your collarbones? Doing what, D A?
49:52 Speaker 04 Separately, no, playing, um, playing football, I broke.
49:56 Speaker 01 Oh, it makes me feel sick.
49:57 Speaker 04 I broke this left one off at the sternum here, like basically right there. And then, um, I broke this one off at the shoulder a couple of years later during the pandemic. I was really drunk and I was on a kayak.
50:11 Speaker 01 Right.
50:12 Speaker 04 I've also broken both of my ankles and
50:15 Speaker 01 How?
50:15 Speaker 04 A couple of fingers. I played a lot of sports.
50:17 Speaker 01 What sport was your favorite?
50:19 Speaker 04 Wrestling.
50:20 Speaker 01 You wrestled?
50:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, I wrestled. I didn't make the basketball team in eighth grade.
50:25 Speaker 01 Okay.
50:25 Speaker 04 And I really wanted to make the basketball team because basketball's cool. And I didn't really know anything about wrestling.
50:30 Speaker 01 It's cool.
50:31 Speaker 04 But, um, I got cut from like the B team basketball team in eighth grade. So I was like, fuck it. The only other sport in the winter is wrestling. And then I wrestled and I won conference that year and I was like, oh, maybe I'm good at this. And I was
50:43 Speaker 01 How do you win wrestling?
50:44 Speaker 04 You just beat everybody.
50:46 Speaker 01 But like, what do you? I don't understand, like, what do you?
50:49 Speaker 04 So there's two ways to win in wrestling. You have a team and like each guy wrestles at a different weight class. For like in high school, it's
50:56 Speaker 01 Oh, see, I could never. What? Because they weigh you in, they weigh you in front of everyone, huh?
51:00 Speaker 04 They be weighing you all the time.
51:02 Speaker 01 Uh-uh.
51:02 Speaker 04 Yeah.
51:03 Speaker 01 I, I weigh in private.
51:04 Speaker 04 In your boxers, you get all the guys like from your team and the other team. And you're in the locker room and you like stand next to the guy you're gonna go wrestle in an hour. And he like, he's in his underwear and you're in your underwear and like you both weigh the exact same amount. And then you go, you get out there and you eat like a little bar or like, you know, you have a snack because you're so, so hungry. And then you go leave it all out there on the mat, man.
51:23 Speaker 01 But how do you win?
51:25 Speaker 04 You, uh, you either win by points or you can pin somebody.
51:28 Speaker 01 Oh, okay.
51:29 Speaker 04 Pin them on their back where they can't, it can't get up.
51:31 Speaker 01 Was it fun for you?
51:32 Speaker 04 I loved it. Yeah. I was like an angry kid. So football and wrestling, I got to get, I like.
51:36 Speaker 01 You were an angry kid?
51:37 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah.
51:39 Speaker 01 Wait, why?
51:40 Speaker 04 I was pissed off, man.
51:41 Speaker 01 At what?
51:42 Speaker 04 I just kinda everything. I like, my mom kept journals from like when we were born until like we were tots. Like she, like, like for the first like two years of our lives. And there are entries. She's like, you're 11 months old. Every time we tell you no, you laugh at us. She would like, she'd be like, dear little devil. And I'm like, not even a year old yet.
52:00 Speaker 01 When's your birthday?
52:01 Speaker 04 Uh, same as my mom's actually. It's February 28th.
52:04 Speaker 01 Pisces.
52:05 Speaker 04 I'm a Pisces.
52:06 Speaker 01 I love Pisces.
52:07 Speaker 04 Me too. Uh, yeah.
52:09 Speaker 01 But Pisces do, my best friend is a Pisces and she gets angry too.
52:13 Speaker 04 Yeah. I've, I've grown up quite a bit.
52:15 Speaker 01 But it's, it's like righteous anger. You're angry for good reason.
52:18 Speaker 04 I was just curious, I think was the thing. It was like, if you told me no, I just wanted to know why. And if I couldn't know why.
52:25 Speaker 01 That's like her.
52:26 Speaker 04 Then I couldn't understand.
52:27 Speaker 01 Yeah. And then you just say, like, what the fuck?
52:28 Speaker 04 Yeah. And then I'd just get angry.
52:30 Speaker 01 Were you good at math?
52:31 Speaker 04 Very good at math.
52:33 Speaker 01 I loved math too.
52:34 Speaker 04 Nice.
52:35 Speaker 01 What was your favorite?
52:36 Speaker 04 Um, I love geometry. That was my favorite.
52:39 Speaker 01 Oh, okay. That was my least favorite.
52:41 Speaker 04 See, it's pretty polarizing.
52:43 Speaker 01 My favorite was pre calc.
52:45 Speaker 04 Yeah. Pre calc's fun too.
52:46 Speaker 01 I just thought it was like a puzzle. And once I could figure it out, it was just so rewarding to like do.
52:51 Speaker 04 Yeah.
52:52 Speaker 01 But I'm not the type of person that would be good at it. So the fact that I got myself to be good at it.
52:56 Speaker 04 That's cool.
52:57 Speaker 01 I was like, wait, I'm kinda her.
52:58 Speaker 04 Did you take math like all through college?
53:00 Speaker 01 No.
53:01 Speaker 04 No, fuck that, right?
53:02 Speaker 01 No. I stopped with calculus in my senior year and I thought calculus was just so boring.
53:07 Speaker 04 Yeah, I get that. I was a math, I'm still like, I guess I haven't in a while, but during the strikes, I was a math tutor for like some kids, which was really fun.
53:15 Speaker 01 You're lying.
53:16 Speaker 04 No, I was a tutor when I was a little kid. I used to tutor like the other kids down the street that were a couple of years younger than me.
53:22 Speaker 01 How, how old were the kids that you were tutoring?
53:25 Speaker 04 Like recently?
53:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
53:27 Speaker 04 Uh, middle school age, or like end of elementary.
53:29 Speaker 01 Oh my god, did they just love you so much and did you guys have the best time?
53:32 Speaker 04 We had so much fun. Yeah, I mean, like, half of it was like, we would hang out and the other half was be like, dude, you gotta figure out how to do this.
53:38 Speaker 01 It's funny you mention that, cuz I was thinking about my babysitting days cuz I used to babysit.
53:41 Speaker 04 Yeah.
53:42 Speaker 01 One time, I was babysitting this kid and he started crying and shit his pants, so I called his parents to come home and they got really angry at me. And at the time, I was like, why are you so angry at me? But now, looking back at it, I'm like, well, of course, they're angry at me. They hired me to take care of their kid.
53:55 Speaker 04 Right, he's got shit in his pants.
53:56 Speaker 01 And the second something bad happens, I called them to come home. Can you imagine?
53:59 Speaker 04 How old was he?
54:00 Speaker 05 And it's like, something bad happened and it's just, he just went to the bathroom.
54:03 Speaker 01 Yeah, like I, and I was like, stop crying, stop crying. Oh my, it was so bad, it was so bad, it was so bad. It was like, the worst night of my life. The money was not worth it.
54:10 Speaker 04 I'm so sorry.
54:11 Speaker 01 But babysitting is the easiest way to make money.
54:13 Speaker 04 Yes. And I needed to make money cuz there was nothing going on during the strikes.
54:17 Speaker 01 Nothing.
54:18 Speaker 04 And I love kids, you know?
54:20 Speaker 01 Do you want kids?
54:21 Speaker 04 Totally, yeah, I can't wait to be a dad.
54:22 Speaker 01 How many?
54:24 Speaker 04 I would like, I'm from a family of three. Both of my parents are family of three kids. I like three kids.
54:31 Speaker 01 Okay.
54:31 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm not like, dying on that hill.
54:34 Speaker 01 I want two.
54:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
54:36 Speaker 01 Theo and Annabelle. Theo's older, Annabelle's younger. Um.
54:40 Speaker 04 Great. By the way, those are actually great names.
54:43 Speaker 01 Thank you so much.
54:43 Speaker 04 I'm so ready to tell people when they have stupid name ideas, but I respect it. Yeah, those are cute.
54:47 Speaker 01 Thank you so much. Theodore, and then Annabelle, Annabie for short, Theo for short. It was my best friend growing up, well, one of my best friends growing up was named Annabelle, and people would call her Annabie, and I thought it was so chic.
54:57 Speaker 04 That's cute.
54:58 Speaker 01 But people, my friend this weekend was like, I actually only see you with one kid, and I think you're a boy dad. And I think it's just Theo.
55:05 Speaker 04 Oh, I could really see that.
55:06 Speaker 01 And, do you know I'm recently a godfather?
55:08 Speaker 04 Oh, congratulations!
55:09 Speaker 01 Thank you so much.
55:10 Speaker 04 Oh, that's exciting.
55:11 Speaker 01 And I just bought a shirt at a vintage store that says godfather, and then on the back, it says Jeff.
55:16 Speaker 01 I don't know who Jeff is, but.
55:18 Speaker 04 Yeah, but congratulations to Jeff, who's also a godfather.
55:20 Speaker 01 Congratulations to me!
55:21 Speaker 04 And to you as well.
55:22 Speaker 01 For being the godfather.
55:23 Speaker 04 Of course.
55:24 Speaker 01 I'm so excited about it.
55:25 Speaker 04 That's really cool. I want to be a godfather.
55:27 Speaker 01 I know!
55:28 Speaker 04 Do you have godparents?
55:29 Speaker 01 No.
55:29 Speaker 04 I do. It's my aunt and my uncle.
55:31 Speaker 01 Okay.
55:31 Speaker 04 This is great. I feel like I could talk to you all day.
55:33 Speaker 01 What?
55:34 Speaker 04 Yeah.
55:34 Speaker 01 Thank you.
55:35 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah. Quit fucking screaming at me.
55:37 Speaker 01 Sorry.
55:40 Speaker 01 What's your like favorite thing to do after a long day at set? Like, do you all hang out?
55:44 Speaker 04 Uh, yeah, we hang out all the time.
55:46 Speaker 01 Really?
55:46 Speaker 04 Yeah, last year it was a lot of what we called Belmont's House, where I would have everybody over and we would do costume parties.
55:53 Speaker 01 That's sweet.
55:53 Speaker 04 Everybody's a little busier this summer, so we haven't even done a Belmont's House yet, but I'll have the party fill invite out soon for it. Um, but yeah, we hang. A lot of times we go to the park or now we go for drives. A lot more one-on-ones this year.
56:06 Speaker 01 I was about to say, does it feel different filming season two with more eyeballs on it?
56:11 Speaker 04 No, and what's nice is that, uh, like, whatever the magic of making season one was, is still very much alive. It's all the same crew. It kind of just feels like we went home and we just like, didn't like really skip a beat. It feels like we were just right back. Um, I think in our personal lives, like, we are very aware of the eyeballs, but in the work of acting and performing and like working on this show, it's all the same.
56:36 Speaker 01 Got it.
56:36 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:36 Speaker 01 Got it. You just don't get to have as much.
56:38 Speaker 04 Yeah, but we're all a little busier now, you know? Like, it's given us some opportunities and like we'll travel a bit more. So what's really nice so far about season two is like I'll pick up Steven and we'll go for a drive and get coffee. Or like, you know, like, um, Ella and I will do the same, or Jalen and I will go play catch at the park. It's, it's nice. Yeah.
56:55 Speaker 01 And you film in Toronto?
56:57 Speaker 04 Uh, Vancouver.
56:58 Speaker 01 Vancouver, so sorry.
56:59 Speaker 04 It's beautiful in the summer there. Oh, my God.
57:01 Speaker 01 What's it like?
57:02 Speaker 04 It's gorgeous. There's mountains all over and the ocean right there.
57:05 Speaker 01 And it's warm?
57:06 Speaker 04 Yeah, it's, it's warm. It's really warm in the summer and it's really nice. It rains all the rest of the year, except for the summer months when we shoot, which is, you know, that's nice.
57:15 Speaker 01 And how's the food?
57:16 Speaker 04 It's great. Uh, Vancouver's a real melting pot of cultures. There's people from all over.
57:20 Speaker 01 I've been to Vancouver in the summer, actually, the more that I think about it now.
57:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, I bet you have.
57:24 Speaker 01 I have, and we had a phenomenal, phenomenal meal.
57:27 Speaker 04 Yeah.
57:28 Speaker 01 At some, was it sushi? Was it sushi? That was one of the best meals of my entire life.
57:33 Speaker 04 Fuck yeah. There's great sushi.
57:35 Speaker 01 Love Vancouver. The shopping is great, too. I bought a great pair of swim trunks there.
57:38 Speaker 04 Holy shit.
57:39 Speaker 01 Yeah, that I wear every day. They look good on me, even if I'm fat.
57:43 Speaker 04 What's the inseam on those puppies?
57:45 Speaker 01 Hmm, they go to here.
57:48 Speaker 04 Oh, so like seven?
57:50 Speaker 01 Yeah, I wear seven. And everyone's like, you should wear shorter.
57:53 Speaker 04 You like a long swim trunk?
57:54 Speaker 01 I do. I'm really insecure about my thighs.
57:57 Speaker 04 Okay. Get a thigh tat.
58:03 Speaker 01 Yes.
58:03 Speaker 04 Right?
58:04 Speaker 01 I wanted to get one so bad and everyone was like, you can't do that. Do you have a thigh tat?
58:07 Speaker 04 I do have a thigh tat.
58:08 Speaker 01 What is it?
58:09 Speaker 04 It's, um, do you know the band The National at all?
58:11 Speaker 01 Yes!
58:12 Speaker 04 One of my favorite bands. There's a song called Graceless by them.
58:16 Speaker 01 Hey.
58:16 Speaker 04 And the bridge is a lyric that says, there's a science to walking through windows without you. It's my favorite song. It's kind of hard to explain.
58:24 Speaker 01 Okay.
58:25 Speaker 04 This is an image of like what those, it's like a visual representation of those lyrics. It's here. I'd have to take my pants off to show you, but it's cool.
58:32 Speaker 01 Right.
58:32 Speaker 04 Yeah.
58:32 Speaker 01 Okay, I think I'm gonna get a thigh tat.
58:34 Speaker 04 You really should.
58:35 Speaker 01 I'm gonna do it.
58:35 Speaker 04 I mean, thigh tat's a great way to start inching back those
58:38 Speaker 01 I'm gonna do it.
58:39 Speaker 04 trunks and feel good about it.
58:40 Speaker 01 I'm gonna get a thigh tat.
58:41 Speaker 04 Hell yeah. Do you have other tattoos?
58:42 Speaker 01 No, I've never gotten a tattoo.
58:44 Speaker 04 Thigh's a good place to start.
58:44 Speaker 01 Okay, what should I get?
58:46 Speaker 04 Um, well, I mean, it's crazy you don't have an octopus tattoo.
58:50 Speaker 01 Yeah, well, it just feels like too, like, too much.
58:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
58:53 Speaker 01 Maybe I get, I see the issue with the tat for me is that I'm inherently trying to be cool. So I, if I'm getting a tattoo, it really needs to ring true to who I am.
59:05 Speaker 04 Okay, okay.
59:06 Speaker 01 Like, it really needs to ring true to who I am. It can't just be like a number or like, like my favorite stroke song, cause then, you know, like, it's like, you're just trying to be cool.
59:17 Speaker 04 But that would, sounds like it would ring true to who you are.
59:20 Speaker 01 I guess. Maybe, maybe I'll get the street I grew up on.
59:24 Speaker 04 The?
59:24 Speaker 01 181st.
59:26 Speaker 04 Oh, you get the, like, the address?
59:27 Speaker 01 I'll just get 181.
59:28 Speaker 04 Oh, that's cool. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's a good way to start.
59:31 Speaker 01 But like, that, like, the ones would look weird on a thigh, no?
59:34 Speaker 04 No.
59:36 Speaker 01 Okay.
59:36 Speaker 04 181?
59:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
59:37 Speaker 04 It's kind of cool. It's symmetrical.
59:39 Speaker 01 Okay.
59:39 Speaker 04 Yeah, it was good. You could either do that on your thigh or on an arc, kind of like,
59:42 Speaker 01 Oh!
59:43 Speaker 04 Like, you, you know, you see when people get like numbers on an arc, kind of like along the sternum? That would make you look so fucking tough.
59:51 Speaker 01 Okay, I'm gonna get a thigh tat!
59:52 Speaker 04 You should.
59:53 Speaker 01 Oh, sorry.
59:53 Speaker 04 You should.
59:53 Speaker 01 Okay. I'm gonna get a thigh tat.
59:55 Speaker 04 Okay, let's go right after this.
59:57 Speaker 01 Okay, I would.
59:59 Speaker 04 No, same. I don't have shit going on.
1:00:01 Speaker 01 Should we go get thigh tats?
1:00:02 Speaker 04 I have a good artist.
1:00:04 Speaker 01 Should I?
1:00:06 Speaker 01 I, I'm not even kidding with you. Should we go get thigh tats?
1:00:09 Speaker 04 Yeah, I, I have an open thigh.
1:00:12 Speaker 04 You know what I'm saying?
1:00:13 Speaker 01 Okay, let's go, let's go get Thai tats.
1:00:14 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:00:16 Speaker 01 My mom is going to kill me.
1:00:21 Speaker 04 Okay, but if we go get Thai tats, we also have to go get short swim trunks.
1:00:24 Speaker 01 Yes. Okay, I, let's get Thai tats.
1:00:26 Speaker 04 All right, I'll look into it. We could also just, I mean, we could just go somewhere and no.
1:00:30 Speaker 01 No, no, no, I want a good, I want a good artist.
1:00:32 Speaker 04 We want good stuff. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:33 Speaker 01 My memory is non-existent at this point. Same. I cannot for the life of me remember anything about anything. I will even reconnect with old town friends and completely forget about them, their names, etc. All I remember is that this is a person I've met and they proceeded to tell me that we used to hang out all the time. I'm actually getting scared. What is wrong with me? Well, a recent study just came out that dementia can start in your 30s, so I would definitely check there first.
1:00:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, and look out for, I guess, aluminum.
1:01:01 Speaker 01 What?
1:01:01 Speaker 04 Right?
1:01:02 Speaker 01 What? Wait, what?
1:01:04 Speaker 04 Don't they say that like aluminum in antiperspirants and like deodorant and stuff will give you Alzheimer's?
1:01:10 Speaker 01 What? I can't. Everything gives you Alzheimer's. Benadryl gives you Alzheimer's.
1:01:15 Speaker 04 Does it?
1:01:15 Speaker 01 A deodorant gives you Alzheimer's.
1:01:17 Speaker 04 I know.
1:01:18 Speaker 01 Weed gives you Alzheimer's.
1:01:19 Speaker 04 I think you're just meant to read or like write or maybe like.
1:01:22 Speaker 01 You have to like use your brain.
1:01:24 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:01:25 Speaker 01 Oh, it must be the phone. It must be the phone.
1:01:28 Speaker 04 Yeah, I think so too.
1:01:31 Speaker 01 I'm so excited to get Thai tats.
1:01:32 Speaker 04 Me too. Should get a phone.
1:01:34 Speaker 01 Oh, my God. Oh, my, see Nolan, like sometimes you really just pick the perfect ones.
1:01:39 Speaker 04 Oh, hell, yeah.
1:01:40 Speaker 01 And it's, he doesn't know. And it's just like, he just, it's fate with you. Kismet.
1:01:46 Speaker 04 It is.
1:01:47 Speaker 01 I've been smoking for two years now. I'm try, oh, so my advice for that other person is maybe go to a doctor. And read and like pray and move your brain.
1:01:55 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, just take notes, maybe.
1:01:57 Speaker 01 I've been smoking for two years now. I'm trying to be better for both my mental and physical health, but I genuinely can't quit. Every night when the clock strikes 9pm, I feel like I have to smoke. I've even gone as far as throwing all of my weed away and later found myself digging through the garbage. I did that the other week. Deep down, I know I should quit, but TBH, I love it. Help. This is for you, not me, because I'm in the throes of it.
1:02:17 Speaker 04 I've been through exactly this thing. You gotta replace a vice with a vice. You gotta do something else. A lot of times a healthy vice is a good alternative, but for me, it was like, okay. If I'm fucking up my lungs because I'm smoking weed every single day, I'm gonna target the lungs to be the point of change. So I started doing cardio, which I hated doing. I did not want to do cardio. But then when I went and did cardio and I got done and I like my lungs fucking hurt, I was like, okay, well, you know, next time when I do this, they won't hurt as bad.
1:02:47 Speaker 01 Because I've stopped smoking.
1:02:47 Speaker 04 Because I've stopped smoking. So like, go use your lungs as a reminder that like, that's what they're for.
1:02:53 Speaker 01 That honestly might have been some of the best advice we've ever gotten on this podcast. Literally ever.
1:02:59 Speaker 04 Because you know when you do cardio and you've been smoking for a lot and like you like taste.
1:03:02 Speaker 01 I know, but I reward my cardio with like, a smoke.
1:03:06 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:03:06 Speaker 01 Like when I run a 5K every two weeks and every time I get back, I ever smoke a cigarette or a joint.
1:03:11 Speaker 04 Okay, so maybe that's not the solution for you.
1:03:13 Speaker 01 No. It's not.
1:03:14 Speaker 04 You should just start smoking earlier in the day. Then when it comes 9pm, you don't have this whole fucking debacle because you're already high.
1:03:21 Speaker 01 Maybe I won't smoke tonight. I'm gonna smoke tonight.
1:03:23 Speaker 04 Now you are.
1:03:23 Speaker 01 I'm pretty sure my friend doesn't brush her teeth.
1:03:26 Speaker 04 Oh!
1:03:28 Speaker 01 It's happened two to three times now where she comes in my car and smells so bad I have to crack the windows. Her tongue often looks very white and caked. And it's so gross. How do I kindly bring this up to her? You say your breath smells bad. If my breath smells bad, Alice will be like, your breath stinks.
1:03:40 Speaker 04 Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah.
1:03:41 Speaker 01 Have you brushed your teeth?
1:03:42 Speaker 04 Yeah, honey, that's just not, that's not acceptable.
1:03:44 Speaker 01 Is this like a new friend? I'm confused. Like if Julia's breath smells bad, I'd be like, your breath smells bad.
1:03:48 Speaker 04 What kind of friend do you have that you wouldn't tell them when their breath stinks? Like maybe, you know, that only happens with acquaintance.
1:03:53 Speaker 01 My number one fear is smelling bad.
1:03:55 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:03:56 Speaker 01 And that's why my, it smells. Like I really don't do well with smells. I hate refrigerators. I hate smelling bad.
1:04:01 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:04:01 Speaker 01 I hate cold food that's supposed to be hot and still smells like hot food.
1:04:06 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:07 Speaker 01 Doesn't that give you the chills a little bit?
1:04:09 Speaker 04 It's gross.
1:04:09 Speaker 01 Like cold spaghetti, marinara, and the marinara's all clumped up and you could still smell the marinara, but you look at it and it's like clumped up and you touch it and it's cold.
1:04:17 Speaker 04 Honestly, you're making me, I would eat that.
1:04:19 Speaker 01 You would eat that?
1:04:20 Speaker 04 Sounds good.
1:04:21 Speaker 01 Cold pasta.
1:04:23 Speaker 04 Whatever.
1:04:25 Speaker 05 I love pulled spaghetti.
1:04:26 Speaker 01 I can't with you. I can't with you.
1:04:30 Speaker 04 That actually sounds good. Do you ever smell something and it transports you back to the place that whatever that used to smell like? You have like a oof.
1:04:37 Speaker 01 Any ice cream shop that smells remotely like Ben and Jerry's, I get transported back to Ben and Jerry's when I was a kid.
1:04:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:43 Speaker 01 And I used to drink out of little water cups.
1:04:45 Speaker 04 That's cool. Don't you love when that happens?
1:04:47 Speaker 01 Yeah, it only happens with me with that.
1:04:48 Speaker 04 Only with Ben and Jerry's?
1:04:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:04:50 Speaker 04 No, it happens with other stuff. You just don't remember.
1:04:52 Speaker 01 Oh, really?
1:04:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:04:53 Speaker 01 When, when, when, when does it happen for you?
1:04:55 Speaker 04 Whenever I walk into like a, like a big, like a, for some reason everywhere smells like the field house at my high school. Just like the big gym. Like whenever I walk onto a stage or something, I'd be like, oh man, it feels like I'm at a tournament or something.
1:05:09 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:05:09 Speaker 04 That happens a lot. And then sometimes like, um, I, I, I, I was in a garage in LA, it wasn't my garage, somebody else's garage. That smelled just like my grandmother's garage in the house that she lived in when we were kids. And I was like, holy fuck. And it like took me back like that. And then I was like thinking about all the stuff that's in the bins in her garage and like doing laundry out there and stuff. And like, uh, it was the exact same smell and I hadn't smelled it forever.
1:05:37 Speaker 01 Yeah. Sometimes I feel that way about like laundry machine. Well, I think I just like how laundry like exhaust smells.
1:05:43 Speaker 04 Yeah, interesting.
1:05:44 Speaker 01 You know, you know, like when the steam comes out.
1:05:47 Speaker 04 You stand in front of it.
1:05:48 Speaker 01 Okay, so what tattoo should I get?
1:05:49 Speaker 04 Oh, just get a hot dog.
1:05:51 Speaker 01 No, I was gonna get a banana peel.
1:05:53 Speaker 04 Oh.
1:05:54 Speaker 01 Because, this is my reasoning for it, and I think it makes sense. I have a quote above my bed that says, um, that Manny actually painted. It says, if you slip on a banana peel, people will laugh at you, but if you tell people you slip on a banana peel, it's your laugh.
1:06:11 Speaker 04 That's nice.
1:06:11 Speaker 01 And that's kind of how I live my life.
1:06:13 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:06:14 Speaker 01 But like, is a banana peel, I'm gonna get a banana peel.
1:06:17 Speaker 04 I think it's.
1:06:18 Speaker 01 That's what is truest to me.
1:06:19 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Would you do it in like the style of like Andy Warhol's banana or?
1:06:24 Speaker 01 Oh, yes. Oh my God, yes.
1:06:27 Speaker 04 But it could be cool. It could be like a take on that famous image of it's that instead of it being a banana being like the peeled version of it.
1:06:36 Speaker 04 Would you have it kind of like with the fucking stem up and like the it like splatted out?
1:06:43 Speaker 01 Ooh.
1:06:43 Speaker 04 Or is it a profile with the banana?
1:06:46 Speaker 01 Well, this is a good question. I would have the whatever tattoo artist that you're telling me about.
1:06:49 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:06:50 Speaker 01 Show me options.
1:06:51 Speaker 04 Okay, because there's different compositions for this, and I'm interested in what you'd prefer.
1:06:54 Speaker 01 Okay. I'm gonna get a banana peel. That's what it is.
1:06:56 Speaker 04 That's a good idea, actually. I like that.
1:06:58 Speaker 01 It's like, everyone's like, why do you have a banana peel? And then I can tell you why. It's because I like to laugh at myself before you can laugh at me.
1:07:04 Speaker 04 Bitch.
1:07:05 Speaker 01 Bitch.
1:07:07 Speaker 01 Bitch. My mom's boyfriend doesn't flush the toilet at my house, and when he's downstairs, he uses the bathroom near my room. So it's like technically my bathroom, and I constantly find his pee in my toilet. Literally, how do I even bring this up? Help. Say, you need to flush the toilet. Some of these problems, I'm like, you just need to be like flush the toilet.
1:07:22 Speaker 04 There's a real lack of assertiveness happening with some of these pussies.
1:07:25 Speaker 01 Yes. I couldn't agree more.
1:07:27 Speaker 04 Yeah. I mean, really, a lot of these things are solved by one of my favorite things in life, which is speaking plainly. Flush the toilet.
1:07:35 Speaker 01 Right.
1:07:36 Speaker 04 You can say, your piss is in the toilet. Please flush.
1:07:39 Speaker 01 Are you a confrontational person?
1:07:40 Speaker 04 I I'm not out there looking for it, but when I find confrontation, I'm very comfortable within it.
1:07:46 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:07:46 Speaker 04 Yeah, because I speak plainly. And that's not to be mean. It's not. And it's not also to be too polite. But like, people need to hear exactly what they need to hear, so it's good to just say things how they are.
1:07:58 Speaker 01 Right.
1:07:59 Speaker 04 So like, you you keep peeing in the toilet, and then when I go in there, I'm looking at your pee. Go ahead and flush that puppy.
1:08:04 Speaker 01 One time, when I was on a flight, I peed in the toilet right before, because I always pee right before we take off. Because I have like really bad peeing, OCD and anxiety.
1:08:13 Speaker 04 On the airplane or?
1:08:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, on the airplane. I always pee right before we take off, like all like right before the doors close, right before everyone finishes boarding, I'll go pee.
1:08:20 Speaker 04 Sorry, you go board, you put your thing upstairs.
1:08:22 Speaker 01 And I go pee.
1:08:23 Speaker 04 And then you go pee.
1:08:23 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:08:24 Speaker 04 Okay.
1:08:24 Speaker 01 And I forgot to flush. I just thought, like, I don't know what I was thinking. I didn't really think it mattered that much. I don't know. And the flight attendant came out and said, who didn't flush?
1:08:34 Speaker 04 No way.
1:08:36 Speaker 01 Right? She said, who didn't flush? And I said, me. I said me and I literally I said I'm so sorry it was me and everyone looked at me and was like why would you ever admit that?
1:08:45 Speaker 04 Right, but it's not the worst.
1:08:47 Speaker 01 It was really embarrassing.
1:08:49 Speaker 04 But good for you.
1:08:50 Speaker 01 I said I didn't flush and I'm so sorry and she felt so bad.
1:08:53 Speaker 04 Right, cuz what is, what's her deal?
1:08:55 Speaker 01 But like what is your deal? She's like we need to flush. I'm like, are we on a school trip? On a fucking commercial airplane?
1:09:01 Speaker 04 Right.
1:09:02 Speaker 01 It's not like I took a shit in the toilet and didn't flush it. Then you could be like who the fuck didn't flush?
1:09:06 Speaker 04 Right, there's a turd sitting in there right now. Literally.
1:09:09 Speaker 01 My crazy roommate has been tracking my location constantly. We shared Life 360 one time while going out. I forgot about it until our mutual friends told me she leaves the app open on her phone, zoomed in on my location at all times. This weirded me out, so I turned my location off and she freaked out at me and started asking people if they knew where I am even when I tell her where I'm going. You need to watch Single White Female or The Roommate with Leighton Meester.
1:09:30 Speaker 04 Okay, I haven't, uh, uh, that's horrifying.
1:09:32 Speaker 01 Maybe.
1:09:33 Speaker 04 That's very scary stuff.
1:09:35 Speaker 01 Well, that's why I'm saying you need to watch The Roommate with Leighton Meester cuz that's what happens in The Roommate with Leighton Meester.
1:09:40 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm gonna watch The Roommate with Leighton Meester as soon as I get the chance.
1:09:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, she, she has a roommate and the roommate, um, I can't, I don't remember if the roommate is Leighton Meester, the other one isn't, but, um,
1:09:50 Speaker 04 Well, I guess they would both be roommates.
1:09:52 Speaker 01 It's like based on Single White Female.
1:09:53 Speaker 04 Yeah, okay.
1:09:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:09:55 Speaker 04 That's, uh, that's very spooky.
1:09:57 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
1:09:57 Speaker 04 Yeah, no, turn that location off, keep it off.
1:09:59 Speaker 01 Keep it off and be, and stay far away.
1:10:02 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:10:02 Speaker 01 There's no fixing that.
1:10:03 Speaker 04 Nope.
1:10:06 Speaker 01 Can I have my phone really quickly?
1:10:09 Speaker 01 I need to call for approval on the fat tat.
1:10:13 Speaker 01 Peyton is off campus's number one fan.
1:10:16 Speaker 04 Oh my god, incredible.
1:10:18 Speaker 05 Hi.
1:10:18 Speaker 01 Say hi to Belmont.
1:10:19 Speaker 04 Hi Peyton.
1:10:21 Speaker 05 Oh, I'm sick!
1:10:24 Speaker 05 I'm sick!
1:10:25 Speaker 04 What's up sister, how are you?
1:10:27 Speaker 05 Hi, I'm your biggest fan.
1:10:29 Speaker 04 I'm yours now.
1:10:30 Speaker 05 Thank god I answered Jake, I just heard my computer ringing.
1:10:33 Speaker 04 We almost didn't get you.
1:10:34 Speaker 05 Oh, I'm obsessed, I'm obsessed with you bad.
1:10:37 Speaker 04 That's awesome, thanks.
1:10:38 Speaker 01 Do you have any questions?
1:10:39 Speaker 05 Your show, your show's awesome.
1:10:41 Speaker 04 Thank you very much, we worked very hard on it.
1:10:42 Speaker 05 Are you filming season two right now?
1:10:44 Speaker 04 We currently are, yes.
1:10:46 Speaker 05 Holy hell.
1:10:47 Speaker 01 Okay, so.
1:10:47 Speaker 05 I read all the books.
1:10:48 Speaker 01 Yes, you read all the books.
1:10:49 Speaker 04 Wow, good for you.
1:10:51 Speaker 05 I'm an, I'm an OG fan.
1:10:53 Speaker 04 Respect.
1:10:54 Speaker 05 What was your favorite scene to film?
1:10:57 Speaker 04 Um, probably the scene with me, uh, with Garrett and Dean in the, in the weight room.
1:11:04 Speaker 05 I mean smash, time to go.
1:11:08 Speaker 01 So the reason we called is because, should I get a thigh tat?
1:11:12 Speaker 05 You have to Jake, they're so hot. I always tell you this.
1:11:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, you did, you called it.
1:11:17 Speaker 05 Do you have one?
1:11:18 Speaker 01 Yes, he has one.
1:11:20 Speaker 05 Of course he has one.
1:11:20 Speaker 04 It's super hot.
1:11:21 Speaker 01 Yeah, and so, but he said he has nothing to do for the rest of the day, so he would take me to get one after this.
1:11:27 Speaker 05 You have to go.
1:11:28 Speaker 01 I have to go, right?
1:11:30 Speaker 05 I wish I was gonna be there, but you have to go. So what would you get? Cause I don't want you to like be manic and like get something weird. A banana peel?
1:11:36 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:11:37 Speaker 05 Yeah, I knew it. Yes.
1:11:39 Speaker 01 Got the banana peel?
1:11:40 Speaker 05 Yes.
1:11:40 Speaker 01 Okay, I, I need a tattoo.
1:11:43 Speaker 04 You need to calm down.
1:11:44 Speaker 01 I need a tattoo.
1:11:45 Speaker 05 He doesn't know how to calm.
1:11:49 Speaker 04 I can't believe you, you have so much enthusiasm for the tattoo idea now. I can't believe you haven't gotten one.
1:11:54 Speaker 01 Because it's...
1:11:55 Speaker 05 I, I tell him, like thigh tats are hot, it's fun.
1:11:58 Speaker 04 Well, he told me he wears-
1:11:59 Speaker 05 He hyper fixates on something and then he'll like get manic and not do it.
1:12:03 Speaker 04 He told me he wears really long swim trunks. He was like, I wear jeans to the beach. And I was like, we need to get a thigh tat and then it'd be more comfortable in short shorts.
1:12:12 Speaker 05 Also Jake, like you're hot and your body's hot.
1:12:14 Speaker 04 Right.
1:12:14 Speaker 05 Get shorter fucking shorts.
1:12:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, decorate it with cool tattoos.
1:12:17 Speaker 01 I guess you're right.
1:12:19 Speaker 05 Okay, so you need a thigh tat and you need new bathing suits.
1:12:22 Speaker 04 That's what I told him.
1:12:23 Speaker 01 But only if he, only if, only if he can take me.
1:12:27 Speaker 05 He has to take you, Belmont, you have to take him.
1:12:29 Speaker 04 I'm gonna do my best. I'll be the liaison for this.
1:12:31 Speaker 05 Okay, love you. Have so much fun.
1:12:33 Speaker 01 Thanks, love you.
1:12:33 Speaker 04 Bye.
1:12:34 Speaker 05 Bye.
1:12:35 Speaker 04 It's a really good idea.
1:12:36 Speaker 01 I have insane imposter syndrome when it comes to dating because I grew up weird and unattractive. Sorry. It's literally how I feel. I had a crazy glow up, but still anytime a guy that's mildly attractive and or well liked shows interest in me, I panic and get scared. Even if it's a guy that I'm interested in, I find myself self sabotaging. Is there any way to get over this?
1:12:57 Speaker 04 Hmm, yeah, of course there is. Uh, I, uh, practice it.
1:13:03 Speaker 01 What?
1:13:04 Speaker 04 Just practice.
1:13:06 Speaker 01 You don't have any advice for this, do you?
1:13:08 Speaker 04 Nah, I really don't.
1:13:09 Speaker 01 That's okay. I don't really have any advice either, cuz I'm...
1:13:12 Speaker 04 But it does sound like you had a good glow up and so...
1:13:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, only glow up. Oh my god, you know what? You need to watch, um...
1:13:19 Speaker 04 Quick, tell me.
1:13:20 Speaker 01 Oh my god, watch The Princess Diaries.
1:13:21 Speaker 04 Yeah?
1:13:22 Speaker 01 Watch The Princess Diaries.
1:13:23 Speaker 04 Are you talking about like the he's all that's and the...
1:13:26 Speaker 01 Yes, but watch the pr- I've never seen He's All That.
1:13:28 Speaker 04 What was the Amanda Bynes soccer one? That was based on like a Shakespeare.
1:13:31 Speaker 01 She's the man. Best movie ever.
1:13:33 Speaker 04 It was so good.
1:13:35 Speaker 01 Watch The Princess Diaries.
1:13:36 Speaker 04 Yes, good. Watch that movie.
1:13:38 Speaker 01 Okay. Ready for the last one?
1:13:39 Speaker 04 Yep.
1:13:40 Speaker 01 I accidentally discovered my father's porn addiction by finding a hidden tablet with thousands and upon thousands of videos saved. I obviously understand this is normalized, but the sheer amount of content I found saved was not normal. From what my mother has told me, she is very against pornography in all forms. I don't wanna cross any lines, but I also don't want my- to let my mom be lied to. What do I do? Uh... How horrible.
1:14:02 Speaker 04 This one is not like the other ones.
1:14:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:14:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, sometimes Nolan throws in a random.
1:14:10 Speaker 04 Good pull, Nolan.
1:14:13 Speaker 04 I mean, okay, my first query is, what's the old man into?
1:14:18 Speaker 01 Right.
1:14:19 Speaker 04 Is it normal stuff?
1:14:20 Speaker 01 Doesn't- thousands upon thousands doesn't sound like it. Does not sound like normal stuff.
1:14:26 Speaker 04 But they didn't specify that it was specifically anything in there, but you know, if that's a- that is...
1:14:31 Speaker 01 Thousands upon thousands?
1:14:32 Speaker 04 It's a lot of material.
1:14:33 Speaker 01 I would just tell the mom.
1:14:34 Speaker 04 You know what I would do? I would, yeah, I think it's probably good for the mom to know that.
1:14:39 Speaker 01 I would tell the mom.
1:14:39 Speaker 04 But I would tell the dad, hey, uh, you don't have to have any of this saved.
1:14:43 Speaker 01 Right, well that's...
1:14:44 Speaker 04 It's porn!
1:14:44 Speaker 01 Also, what I was just thinking too.
1:14:45 Speaker 04 Like you just like, you could just go look at it and then you could just leave it on the internet and go back to your life. But you don't have to have- does he have boxes of it? What happened?
1:14:52 Speaker 01 Uh, he has it saved on his computer.
1:14:54 Speaker 04 Oh, okay, yeah. See, the- I would just be like, listen pops, you don't have to download this at all. If you wanna see it again tomorrow, you could just go find it again.
1:15:03 Speaker 01 Right. So you wouldn't tell the mom?
1:15:07 Speaker 04 I mean, it's interesting, the mom is really against pornography.
1:15:11 Speaker 01 Right.
1:15:12 Speaker 04 So there's an underlying issue happening in this marriage. Yeah.
1:15:16 Speaker 01 What a weird coincidence.
1:15:17 Speaker 04 Right, right, right. And do you think, I mean, it's possible that she just says that to the kid because she knows about the way that it's affected her husband?
1:15:24 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:15:25 Speaker 04 And so she's fearful of the addiction being genetic.
1:15:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, so maybe just stay out of it.
1:15:32 Speaker 04 We're gonna hang.
1:15:34 Speaker 01 Really?
1:15:35 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:15:35 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:15:36 Speaker 04 We have to party together. We gotta go out.
1:15:37 Speaker 01 We have to party?
1:15:38 Speaker 04 I dunno. Do you go out? I don't really go out. I'm a house party guy.
1:15:41 Speaker 01 I go out.
1:15:42 Speaker 04 I'll throw a party here at your place.
1:15:43 Speaker 01 I should do that one of these days.
1:15:45 Speaker 04 Do you not?
1:15:46 Speaker 01 I know. I never have.
1:15:47 Speaker 04 What?
1:15:48 Speaker 01 I know. Never. I've never thrown a party here.
1:15:51 Speaker 04 Oh my god. It's the best.
1:15:53 Speaker 01 Ah, I love to go out. It's my favorite thing to do in the entire universe. Ever, ever, ever. Oh my god, I love to go out. Pre-game to like a planned party situation to like something else. Or like pre-game to like everybody's going to the same club at the same time. Pre-game to everyone's going to the same bar at the same ti- like it is my favorite thing on god's green earth.
1:16:17 Speaker 04 I'm not a go-out guy.
1:16:18 Speaker 01 It's quite fun.
1:16:19 Speaker 04 I believe it. I've been to a club once in my life.
1:16:23 Speaker 01 What club was it?
1:16:24 Speaker 04 It was uh, it was in Miami. I was nineteen. I had a bomber jacket on.
1:16:29 Speaker 01 Was it a strip club?
1:16:31 Speaker 04 No. Um, it was like at the W Hotel or something in uh, South Beach.
1:16:36 Speaker 01 Oh.
1:16:36 Speaker 04 I think it's called The Wall. Something like that. If I remember correctly.
1:16:39 Speaker 01 Did you go to um, what's the one in the... You know the... Eleven? No, no, not Eleven, not Space. It's the one...
1:16:47 Speaker 04 Um...
1:16:48 Speaker 01 Oh my fucking- Liv? Did you go to Liv?
1:16:50 Speaker 04 No, no, no, no, no.
1:16:51 Speaker 01 Oh, okay. You went to...
1:16:52 Speaker 04 No, I literally just went- this is the only time I think I've ever been in a club.
1:16:55 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:16:56 Speaker 04 And the music was so loud and I was so poor. And the Jack and Cokes were like twenty-five bucks.
1:17:01 Speaker 01 Yeah, they're very expensive.
1:17:03 Speaker 04 And all the women had accents, so I couldn't really understand them that well. Plus, it was the loudest, deepest, transiest house music I'd ever heard.
1:17:10 Speaker 01 I can't.
1:17:11 Speaker 04 So I was screaming at these women who spoke mostly Spanish, trying to introduce myself. I was like, I just lost all my money on the two drinks that I bought. And the three rounds of cover I paid to get in. Um, I had a pair of like nylon joggers on.
1:17:23 Speaker 01 Uh-huh.
1:17:24 Speaker 04 And all the other guys in there were like bald and sweating from coke and wearing Rolexes. And I was like, I've never been more out of place. And then I just didn't go to a club again after that.
1:17:31 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:17:34 Speaker 01 So you have to go to the right ones.
1:17:35 Speaker 04 I'm a dive bar guy.
1:17:36 Speaker 01 Okay.
1:17:37 Speaker 04 Give me a shitty bar, I'm there.
1:17:39 Speaker 01 I, I just love like loud music, dancing.
1:17:43 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:17:43 Speaker 01 Just like, like, complete chaos.
1:17:46 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:17:46 Speaker 01 Like, the lights are off, I don't know what the fuck is going on, but all I know is that it's 4 a.m. And then we're stumbling out.
1:17:53 Speaker 04 You're crazy, man.
1:17:56 Speaker 01 Whatever, you guys.
1:17:57 Speaker 04 Jake, you're so nuts.
1:17:59 Speaker 01 Whatever, you guys, whatever.
1:18:00 Speaker 04 Oh my god, it sounds like fun.
1:18:01 Speaker 01 It is fun, okay? It's the time of your life.
1:18:04 Speaker 04 I would do it with you.
1:18:04 Speaker 01 You give it a chance. It's the time of your life.
1:18:06 Speaker 04 Alright.
1:18:07 Speaker 01 Belmont, what did we learn today?
1:18:11 Speaker 04 We learned, basically, nothing.
1:18:17 Speaker 01 I disagree. What was that one bit of good advice he gave that we were like, wow, oh, we, we learned that
1:18:25 Speaker 04 The lungs.
1:18:26 Speaker 01 If you can, and a good way to quit smoking would be to use your lungs, and a good way to retain your memory would be to read.
1:18:32 Speaker 04 Yes, or, uh, play chess, or do something that involves
1:18:36 Speaker 01 I can't with chess.
1:18:37 Speaker 04 Checkers.
1:18:39 Speaker 04 How about just like mobile games?
1:18:41 Speaker 01 No, that's the, that's what's killing you.
1:18:43 Speaker 04 Fuck.
1:18:44 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:18:44 Speaker 04 We did learn some things.
1:18:45 Speaker 01 We learned that I'm getting a thigh tat.
1:18:47 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:18:48 Speaker 01 It might not be today, but it'll be sometime.
1:18:51 Speaker 04 No, no, no, that thigh's getting tatted.
1:18:53 Speaker 01 It has to.
1:18:53 Speaker 04 Yeah.
1:18:54 Speaker 01 Okay, well, Belmont, thanks for coming on Therapus.
1:18:56 Speaker 04 Thanks for having me, this was fun.
1:18:57 Speaker 01 Did you have fun?
1:18:58 Speaker 04 Yeah, I really did.
1:18:59 Speaker 01 I had a great time.
1:19:00 Speaker 04 Yeah, this was good, I could've done this for much longer, it's a good hang.
1:19:02 Speaker 01 I know, thank you.
1:19:05 Speaker 04 You're a good hang.
1:19:06 Speaker 01 Thank you.
1:19:07 Speaker 04 You're welcome. Bye pussies.
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