Session 126: Bowen Yang

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  Okay, hi pussies. Honestly, like, I haven't done like a life updates intro in a while, so I'm gonna give you a few. For those that don't know, my wrist has been flaring up. Like, well, flaring up. This is like the first time it's ever happened, so my wrist hurts. And I have tendonitis. It's not like that deep. It's just like, it's fixable. Like, a lot of pregnant women get it. Like, I've been super hyper fixated on it. Like, every night, I go to bed and I like Google photos of like tendonitis and like what it looks like because it's like an inflamed tendon that's like going over a muscle. It's like so inflamed. So my wrist sometimes just like really, really, really hurts and gets super swollen.

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  And I was super stressed out about it because I was going to Monaco for the Grand Prix with ALO this weekend. It was like, okay, like, it was literally the best weekend of my life. Like, I really don't think I've ever had so much fun. But yeah, so I wore my brace on night one. And then on night two, I think I took off the brace. And at that point, the brace just started coming off. It's De Queravens tendonitis. I'm just fascinated by it. Like, I can't stop thinking about like, uh, and so sometimes like my wrist will crag, hurts. But I had the best weekend of my life. Like, every night was fun because of Alex, Stassi, and Stella. And Stassi made a vlog of the whole weekend. And I'm just like literally sitting here being like...

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  I need to watch it so I can laugh again. Because I seriously, like, I was crying laughing. I did have a thought today. Basically, it like, there was a bee that was on me and someone and I was like, they were like, oh no, and I was like, no, no, no, no, no. The bee won't sting you if you don't move. Think of yourself like a flower. Bees don't sting flowers. And then I said, bees are like cowboys. Because cowboys always find a greener pasture. Carter Faith's song. It's the definition of like,

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  treat others the way you want to be treated. But with bees. And I just, I literally thought, I was like, oh my God, that was such a good thought. Tonight we have Bowen Yang on, who I think is just one of the funniest, kindest, most talented human beings on planet Earth. I love the Los Culturistas Culture Awards, which are airing June seventeenth on Peacock. Ow, my back, okay. You know what, I think I just need to lay down. So basically, they're, the Los Culturistas Culture Awards are airing on June seventeenth on Peacock. And last year, Louise and I went and like, it was legitimately the best night of my life, I think. Oh my God, we were crying laughing and like, to be able, and I was, I felt so lucky to see it in person.

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  And I just, I was so funny last year, so I'm so excited to see how funny it was this year. Oh, Peacock. Love Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Love, probably one of my favorite shows on television right now. Oh, I'm watching a lot of TV. I'm watching Widows Bay. I'm watching Real Housewives of Rhode Island. Oh, oh, I'm gonna start the F1 show. Because I just saw F1. I guess that's all I have to share. Okay, enjoy the episode with Bowen. I love you pussies.

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  God, I love you.

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  I love you so much.

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  I just, I think such fond thoughts.

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  Me too. Well, I'm your daughter.

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  You're my daughter.

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  Yes.

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  My daughter, sorry.

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  Daughter.

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  Daughter, um, and I just congratulated you on this new venture.

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  Oh, my conscious venture.

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  Please spell it for me.

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  K A T J E S.

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  Did I sound so stupid when I said conscious?

• 4:27Speaker 01

  No, well, it's not your brand.

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  Sure. Yet.

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  Yet.

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  What if I just went in there and I went, no, I think I'd be better.

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  Took it.

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  No, I wouldn't. I wouldn't dare. Were you, were you, um, protective possessive growing up?

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  What is that? What is that?

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  Are you now? I'm just saying, were you like, very like, this is mine? Because if I were to come out from under and steal that title from you, you would.

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  Well, yeah, but like, but I think, I think I, would you label me as that type of kid? That'd be like, mine? I think I was a good sharer.

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  I'm sure you were.

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  I think I was a good sharer. I don't like sharing the spotlight.

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  That's right. That's totally fair because it's not meant to be on more than one person.

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  That's why there's a spotlight. You're telling the audience where to fucking look and it can't be more than one place.

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  You're right.

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  That's it.

• 5:19Speaker 01

  How are you?

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  I'm, we both have excruciating back pain.

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  Mine feels a tad better.

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  Good.

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  But it was really, really bad for a minute.

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  Yeah.

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  It was, um, there was a knot between my shoulder and my like rib and like.

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  That's not the back.

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  It was like right here.

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  Oh, okay.

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  It was like right here and I was like a dick and I think I massaged it out.

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  Oh, good for you.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I also got it cracked three times.

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  Yeah, you did.

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  How is life?

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  Post SNL?

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  Um, weird.

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  Yeah.

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  I feel like I'm chopped, clapped, I'm done in this town.

• 5:59Speaker 01

  What?

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  I, yeah.

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  But it was, you wanted, you were ready.

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  Oh, of course. But I, no, I just, I'm constantly, um, readjusting. I think I'll, I think I'll be in that mode for a while and that's fine. You know what I mean? It's like, well, what were you, what were you like, um?

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  The fall after graduating high school.

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  I was very, mm, actually, I felt.

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  It's okay if you were, if it was great.

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  I was a mix of both.

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  Yeah.

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  I was a mix of like, I feel chopped, but also like, I feel like I had this amazing job that I was like so obsessed with.

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  Can I, can I say, um, you're, I think your Raya profile still says you're like the.

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  And global marketing coordinator at 10K Projects.

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  So what is, so, and is that a little conversation starter?

• 6:51Speaker 01

  No, I just didn't know. Okay. So actually, it's so funny you bring that up.

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  Okay, great.

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  Because at dinner last night, I was with these girls and they were like, you know, you don't need to have a job on there. Cause I, I didn't know what to put, like personality. I thought if I put.

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  Hell on earth to think about that.

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  I thought if I put like comedian, people would be like, you're not.

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  Right.

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  What does yours say?

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  Uh, I don't think I have, I don't think I have a title. Cause I, I, cause I somehow knew. You just hit backspace, backspace, backspace.

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  Yeah. So I don't, I don't have a title.

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  You wait, you know, you know what I saw? Some gay guy on reels. Ugh, listen to that sentence. Some gay guy on reels was like, the new dating app is Partifal.

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  In what world?

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  You zero in on a, on someone you see going to an event that you're going to, you'll go, I'll meet that per, I'll see that person there. You call your target before you go to the event.

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  Oh, okay. That's how interesting.

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  And Partifal culture though, it means that like, people don't necessarily show up.

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  Right.

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  Cause I certainly should, don't show up to 95% of my Partifal stuff.

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  I love getting a Partifal, but can I say though, Partifal does not touch a Facebook party invite.

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  Do those still happen?

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  No, and when they did.

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  You're right. We didn't know how good we had it.

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  Well, no, I knew. I, cause I didn't get invited to them for a while. And then when I started getting invited to like Facebook parties, like, do you remember the rush? And you would like, they would be a bio for it and everyone would comment and like, Facebook was where it was at.

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  You're right.

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  Facebook was fucking awesome.

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  Bring it back.

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  I miss it every day. I miss Facebook every day.

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  But, because you, you feel a certain sort of malaise around the other platforms, probably. You're like, God, this is like.

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  Facebook was just awesome because like, I loved uploading an album.

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  Yes. Oh my God.

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  Facebook was like, the perfect app.

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  You're right.

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  It was perfect.

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  Absolutely. Did you, were you of the time when you would have to USB stick in your digital camera? No? Okay, God bless. That was actually, I actually maybe feel like we're gonna return to that. And also, it was a nice time. It was a nice time when you had to like, really select your photos to then share it with the world. Unlike now when you like, open up your camera and it's like 75,000 images.

• 9:09Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, well, you favorite?

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  No.

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  I, I love an Instagram dump. That's what I'm really into these days.

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  You, you, you have mastered the art.

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  Shut up!

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  You have.

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  Have you noticed?

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  Yes.

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  My last one, everyone was like, is really good.

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  What do you, what do you think are like, the, the hallmarks, the trademarks of a Jake Shane dump?

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  Like, here's who I'm, here are my friends. Here are the places I've been.

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  Here's my body.

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  Here's my body. And these are the clothes I'm wearing.

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  Okay, so it's.

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  So it's all about appearance.

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  No, no, no, of course. And, and I mean, at this point, like, we're all hip to it.

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  Right.

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  Okay, so you're saying, appearance? No, no, no, sorry. Body, friends, shopping, and what was the other one? Here are the places I've been.

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  Yeah, the places I've been. It's like, oh, like, my latest, I was like, in LA and New York. So I was like, and I made the caption, April into May.

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  Yes!

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  And then I, and then my song was Need for Speed, because it's amazing. Have you been listening?

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  Can, can Petros Need for Speed?

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  Yeah.

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  I love it.

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  It's amazing.

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  It's amazing. I'm so happy.

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  How are you feeling about the summer coming up?

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  I forget that it's happening.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  Um, I think I'm excited. I think I'm excited.

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  I'm excited.

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  Well, I just, you, you can never.

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  Bet on anything too hard. You know what I mean? You can't, I can't bet on like, I'm gonna have an ama- you, I cannot confidently say it's gonna be an amazing summer.

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  Do you have plans?

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  Not really.

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  Fire Island?

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  Yeah, one week in July, I'm gonna see Ari at Barclays. Wanna go together?

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  Really?

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  Yes! Are you, you're my daughter!

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  I would love to go with you to Ari at Barclays!

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  Yes, please.

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  Oh, I'm so excited.

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  I would love that.

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  When is it?

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  July, no, what are you doing?

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  I'm in Greece.

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  But I'm so sad that you can't come to Ari with me.

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  I know, I'm kind of actually now a little stressed that though that's when those dates are. When is LA?

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  Opening, she's opening in Oakland.

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  Yeah, we're planning on going to Oakland.

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  Yeah, like, how are you feeling about, um-

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  Pedal?

• 11:18Speaker 02

  Pedal sort of overlapping into this live experience. Well, cause by the, by the time she starts, the album will not be out. She'll probably perform some songs.

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  And then-

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  I know nothing, by the way. Honest to God, I know nothing.

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  And I believe you.

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  Yes.

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  I love it, cause it's so like, ultimate pop diva, I can do whatever I want.

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  Totally.

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  I can start the tour, I'm releasing an album in the middle of the tour, and do whatever the fuck I want.

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  It's very like-

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  Taylor?

• 11:44Speaker 02

  It's, well, it's very Taylor, it's very Sabrina, too. Like Sabrina doing like, Memphis round in the middle of Sweet, uh, Short and Sweet.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  And then kind of, I think she's about to announce something new, perhaps?

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  Is she?

• 11:56Speaker 02

  That's the, that's the scuttlebutt.

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  That's the scuttle, she's a workaholic.

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  Couldn't be me.

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  Couldn't, could not, could not be me.

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  Oh, wait, can I try the gummies? Can I try the cocktails?

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  Oh, yes!

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  No, no, it's okay, it's okay. All right.

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  Try that you-

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  Oh my God, I'm taking two.

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  Yeah.

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  Oh my God, these colors-

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  No, you're gonna die. You're actually gonna die, they're actually, do you like sour?

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  Yes.

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  Oh my-

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  No, I, and the, I know.

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  And I know.

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  To die.

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  To die, right? Like, really good.

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  Jake, I'm so happy for you.

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  Thank you.

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  This is like my, we were saying in the car, like, that's like our dream job is to work for a gummy candy.

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  Yeah, you know, in August, we're going to Dusseldorf.

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  Fun. Well, how do you feel about that? Is that, is that the gummy capital of Europe?

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  That's where, that's where Kutch's headquarters is.

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  Oh, fun. Have you, you, have you been to Germany?

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  No, never.

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  I think you should go to Berlin.

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  Oh, I wanna go to, um.

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  Berlin?

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  Yeah.

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  And it was just, it's just like, Berliners are just like so lovely and sweet and cool and earnest.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  And like a way that like, oh, it feels so not New York or LA, where everyone's trying to be like cool and posture.

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  LA's the worst with it, though. New York, New York is much better.

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  Mm-hmm.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  LA's the worst. I can't find a man in LA to save my life.

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  What was, you've talked about this, but I just, just gay to gay, like mother to daughter. What would, what would, what would you say is like the defining thing about the, about LA dating for you that you were like?

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  I think LA is, I don't know what it is. It's just harder there. It's ju, I think everyone works in entertainment or wants to work in entertainment, which isn't bad. New York is about like, we care about what you're like as a person, a little bit.

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  We care about shopping?

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  Yes.

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  The places you go.

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  Rule, rule of culture.

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  Rule of culture, we care about these things. I totally get it. Well, I think LA is, um, I think people are, and I think New York is guilty of this too. It's like people are thinking about the upgrade.

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  But it's also, it's harder to congregate in LA.

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  Mm-hmm.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  In New York, like, in New York, I meet men out, like, but people will ask for my number out, or like.

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  Really?

• 14:19Speaker 01

  It happened once, and it was very exciting. But like, I'll also like, I'll find it like, I just like more confident in New York. I don't know what it is. I don't know what it is.

• 14:28Speaker 02

  This is the perfect time of year.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  It's the perfect time of year. It's hot out, you're outside, you're, you're, you're drinking, you're like having fun. And then you're like, you feel confident, whereas in LA, you're driving, you're in a car constantly, or you're home. I'm home or in a car.

• 14:44Speaker 02

  Totally. Uh, we are recording this, I'm sorry to. We can cut this out. We're recording this on the day of the Met Gala.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  No, keep it in.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  Keep it in.

• 14:53Speaker 01

  We are recording this. We are recording this on the day of the Met Gala.

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  So you'd rather have one day a year in a city where it's like, it's just, it all fucking comes out in one big, like, ugly

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  Yeah.

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  moment of like, the pageantry and like, the status and

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  Yeah.

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  the appearance of it all.

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  Yes.

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  And get it out of the way.

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  And then, and then you're good.

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  Because after tonight, it's like, alright, let's, let's, let's keep it moving.

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  Award season's over.

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  Uh huh.

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  Met Gala season's over.

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  Yep.

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  Like, well, Met Gala weekend's over.

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  Yeah.

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  And now we can just have fun.

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  I can't wait for you to experience that. I'm not that you already have.

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  No, I haven't.

• 15:24Speaker 02

  Really?

• 15:25Speaker 01

  I don't think so. I don't, well, I, no, I, yeah, I haven't been having much fun.

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  I'm excited because I have stuff coming up that I'm excited to have fun and I'm going to France, I'm going to Vegas.

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  Yes.

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  All with my friends.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  France, Vegas, then Dusseldorf?

• 15:42Speaker 01

  It's Vegas, France, New York, Paris, which I've never been to.

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  Paris, France.

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  I've never been to Paris.

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  Love.

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  And I'm so excited.

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  Oh my god, it's the best.

• 15:54Speaker 01

  And then, France again.

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  Oh my god.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  And then-

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  Paris again, or a different part of France?

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  South.

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  Uh, Cannes?

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  Uh, Saint-Tropez.

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  Saint-Tropez, oh, fun.

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  And then, London for a wedding.

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  Cute. Jake, that's such a great summer.

• 16:08Speaker 01

  I know! I'm so excited.

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  I'm so thrilled for you.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  And yeah, I'm really excited. I just wanna like, ugh, go out and about.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. So what's like the fan, well, let's keep it to New York. What's the fantasy New York summer day? Like, what do you do?

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  Oh, okay. I wake up.

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  Mm-hmm.

• 16:27Speaker 01

  I work out.

• 16:28Speaker 02

  Yep.

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  Because I, just like, feel good, maybe like, I just mentally, just to feel good, like, so I can feel confident throughout the rest of my day.

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  Yep.

• 16:37Speaker 01

  And then, maybe like, 3pm, it's still hot out and we go to like, Dime Square.

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  Mm-hmm.

• 16:44Speaker 01

  And just start drinking.

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  Yep.

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  See where the night takes us.

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  And that's, oh, see, this is perfectly loose.

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  Yeah.

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  Unstructured.

• 16:51Speaker 01

  Like, that's, I mean, I had a night like that the other night and it took me out of commission for-

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  I mean.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  You can say it.

• 16:59Speaker 01

  A week, a real week. Like, I looked at Louise and I said, like, it's, this is bad.

• 17:09Speaker 02

  Louise, wait.

• 17:11Speaker 01

  You ride for Louise.

• 17:13Speaker 02

  Can I say, can I say, on the way, like, I was just with Matt and I was like, oh, my God, I'm so excited to see Jake. And I said, God, I hope Louise is there because Louise, it's not that you're, you're, you're an incredible person, but I also am just obsessed with the name. We don't get Louise's anymore.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  We don't.

• 17:31Speaker 02

  And it's so French.

• 17:33Speaker 03

  Well, I used to hate it, and now in my adult life, I love it.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  Oh, it's a fabulous name. Oh, it's such a wonderful name. No, I ride hard for Louise.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, you and Matt, you and Matt were like the first to ride hard for Louise, by the way. Yes.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  I feel like, I feel Louise is, Louise, I feel like you're such a figure in, in, in the pussy verse.

• 17:53Speaker 01

  Here she goes in the seat.

• 17:55Speaker 01

  That she wanted all along.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  She's just so much more comfortable over here.

• 17:58Speaker 02

  Of course, you're not gonna be happy on that.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  Louise is a figure in my life.

• 18:03Speaker 02

  A figure. Wait, can I ask, was, was that, because you were in Cannes with us, right, last year?

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Oh, wait, she's always in Cannes with me.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  So Matt describes your meeting in the gym as you, like, doing the machine incorrectly for two seconds and then leaving?

• 18:15Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  Because, because, because of things?

• 18:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yes.

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Was, was this you, like, was that, was that, like, your, the beginning of your, like, your gym obsession? Your new gym obsession?

• 18:27Speaker 01

  No, it was the start. It was like the, yeah, yeah, I guess it was the start of me, like, trying to work out, but now, if I went to the gym alone, I could do workouts.

• 18:37Speaker 02

  You know what you're doing.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  I know what I'm doing.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  That's amazing. See, and I always am like.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  And I was looking, yeah, sorry.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  No, no, no, go.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  I was, like, looking at Matt and I was like, oh, my God, he, like, is doing pull-ups. I was like, what the fuck is going on here?

• 18:49Speaker 02

  It's just.

• 18:49Speaker 01

  But I can do that now.

• 18:50Speaker 02

  That's amazing, because it's just about, like, it's, it's, the gym is like a hot stove to people and you, they, they don't want to touch it, they don't want to go too close to it, but all you have to do is put on oven mitts, all you have to do is make it somewhat safe for yourself, and then it'll start to fall into place.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  Well, my trainer calls it the iceberg effect.

• 19:07Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah?

• 19:08Speaker 01

  So it's like, once, and I actually don't know why he calls it that, because I don't know.

• 19:12Speaker 02

  You start at the tip and then you get to the, the, the bottom, which is much more in-depth.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  Oh, I still don't get it.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  Okay, so you know how like an iceberg, only a small part of the iceberg is above water?

• 19:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  It's, you just look at, Google a picture of an iceberg.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Right.

• 19:30Speaker 02

  And you'll see, it's like this much, and then the rest of it is like this much.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  And so you're, and so you're hitting the tip of the iceberg. Are you following me?

• 19:39Speaker 01

  Yes, yes, I hit the tip.

• 19:40Speaker 02

  Hit the tip.

• 19:41Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  And then beneath the surface, there's so much more.

• 19:45Speaker 01

  You know what? We do need to talk about quickly, not just for promo purposes, but because it was the best night of Louise and I's life. And I'm, and I don't say that lightly. I do not enjoy events. I do not enjoy going anywhere.

• 19:58Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 19:59Speaker 01

  The Culture Awards?

• 20:00Speaker 02

  Oh my god, Jake.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  Were the best night of my life.

• 20:05Speaker 02

  Stop.

• 20:05Speaker 01

  And by the way, that is hard to do at a taping. It was a taping. So like, you know what I mean? Like you have, you have to, like, sometimes things have to like, reset.

• 20:15Speaker 02

  Uh huh, uh huh.

• 20:16Speaker 01

  Throughout the entire night, best night of my life.

• 20:19Speaker 02

  Oh my god, Jake.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Best night of my life. Louise and I were tears in our eyes.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  I felt like I had to really redeem myself because I felt like I came on to your Radio City show and I fucking bombed and killed the vibe in that room so hard.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  You felt that way?

• 20:35Speaker 02

  I was like.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  People were so excited that you guys were the guests.

• 20:38Speaker 02

  I was like, oh, look at me and my cortisol face. And then the silence. 5,000 people, dead silent.

• 20:46Speaker 01

  That is not true. That is not true. You guys were the perfect guests and I had so much fun. But the Culture Awards were, like...

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Thank you for doing them, by the way. Wait, if you're in LA, end of May.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  I'm not.

• 21:00Speaker 02

  It's totally fine because we had heard from the talent people, they were like, Jake Sheen wants to come back. We were like, yes, thank god. And then some, for some reason it fell off and I was like, no problem.

• 21:09Speaker 01

  Brett, my dear, my best friend Brett is doing a big run club in New York.

• 21:14Speaker 02

  That's, that's a huge ask, to get your friends to run?

• 21:18Speaker 01

  But she, you know what she's doing for me? She's coming to Las Vegas for sweets and snacks.

• 21:22Speaker 02

  Wait, what's sweets and snacks?

• 21:24Speaker 01

  Yes, sweets and snacks, exposition, or expo.

• 21:29Speaker 02

  Is that not short for exposition?

• 21:32Speaker 01

  It's a big candy convention. And she's coming, and Brett does not like to travel when she doesn't need to. So I really, really appreciate her coming.

• 21:43Speaker 02

  That's also so well balanced too, because she's having you do something healthy.

• 21:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I do like to run.

• 21:51Speaker 02

  That's amazing. I'm so jealous.

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Well, I like to run because after you feel like you are everything.

• 21:57Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 21:58Speaker 01

  But I only run in group settings. I can't run alone or else I'll stop. Like I have to run and someone has to be like, keep going.

• 22:04Speaker 02

  That's great.

• 22:05Speaker 01

  Keep going.

• 22:05Speaker 02

  And are you like that, like group fitness classes?

• 22:07Speaker 01

  No, I used to be. I used to only do group fitness classes, but now I have a trainer that is like, keep going.

• 22:15Speaker 02

  Love.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  Keep going.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  I know, I used to be really, God, I used to, there was a time when I soul cycled.

• 22:21Speaker 01

  I mean.

• 22:21Speaker 02

  Like every other white girl in PR.

• 22:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:25Speaker 02

  And now.

• 22:26Speaker 01

  What year did you start soul cycling?

• 22:27Speaker 02

  Twenty fifteen, sixteen?

• 22:30Speaker 01

  I started twenty thirteen. I was thirteen years old.

• 22:35Speaker 01

  I was thirteen years old.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  When you were like clear.

• 22:37Speaker 01

  I have a photo of me with braces on and they gave me a cupcake. They would give you a cupcake from.

• 22:42Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 22:43Speaker 01

  Let me see it. Is it closed now? If it's closed now, it's that, that's it.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  Okay, it's crumbs. So you were thirteen years, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:56Speaker 01

  Were you ever a barista, Manny? Yes, I was.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 23:04Speaker 01

  God.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  God, just, can I say something?

• 23:07Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  I miss that time.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  Dude.

• 23:12Speaker 02

  Not that like Milk Bar and SoulCycle have like gone.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  New Fork City?

• 23:16Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 23:16Speaker 01

  Come on. New Fork City, you know.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  You know.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Michelle knows. Michelle knows everything.

• 23:23Speaker 01

  It was this Instagram account and all I would do all day was like overheard LA for food in New York. And you would DM them photos of food and just pray to God that they would post it.

• 23:34Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 23:35Speaker 01

  Yes. Yeah. And they put me on to a million places. Do you remember Spice Market?

• 23:41Speaker 02

  Of course I remember Spice Market.

• 23:42Speaker 01

  Why did it close?

• 23:43Speaker 02

  Why did it close?

• 23:44Speaker 01

  It was two stories.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  So many, so many places. But I'm just saying, like, we all look back and like, haha, look at how lame we were back then. But I'm like, I had fun.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  No, the cringe was everything. The Soul Cycle. Oh.

• 23:59Speaker 02

  Come on, like, blowing out the candle felt so nice.

• 24:02Speaker 01

  So nice. Oh my God, I'm blowing out the fucking eucalyptus candle.

• 24:06Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 24:07Speaker 01

  And it smells so good.

• 24:08Speaker 02

  Lemon verbena, whatever it is. Like, it was just nice and...

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Did you ever live on the Upper West Side?

• 24:15Speaker 02

  No, but I kind of low key, I'm like, I would like it. It's so, it's, I don't know, it just feels so cinematic.

• 24:21Speaker 01

  It is. It's very Vampire Weekend.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  It's very...

• 24:25Speaker 01

  It's very Vampire Weekend. Did you ever go to Sugar and Plum?

• 24:28Speaker 02

  No.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  So Sugar and Plum was a, that, ah, my God, I'm trying, I need to figure out a way to describe it. It was a restaurant.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 24:38Speaker 01

  And as a part of the restaurant, there was a candy corner where you could like put candy in a bag and get candy. But they had like these like Belgian waffles with like ice cream and like chicken tenders and fries. It was like Delilah for kids.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  Delilah for kids.

• 24:53Speaker 01

  And instead of alcohol, they had candy.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Which is just, which, which all ages love.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Right.

• 25:00Speaker 02

  Tell me more about Sweets and, what is it?

• 25:02Speaker 01

  Sweets and Snacks.

• 25:03Speaker 02

  Sweets and Snacks?

• 25:04Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 25:04Speaker 02

  So you've been before?

• 25:06Speaker 01

  No, never. This is my first time because I am now CCO of Kachas.

• 25:09Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I'm just, this is my dream. If there are any Sweets and Snacks companies out there...

• 25:14Speaker 01

  We should do a Bo and Kachas collab.

• 25:18Speaker 01

  I'm not, I'm serious.

• 25:20Speaker 02

  Little glasses?

• 25:21Speaker 01

  Yes, little glasses.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  That could be fun.

• 25:23Speaker 01

  Yes, we can make them, you can make, Cochise is like, the thing about Cochise that I love so much is they're down for whatever. They have glasses gummies. They have glasses gummies.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  That's really, really fun.

• 25:33Speaker 01

  In another, another one of their companies, but yes.

• 25:37Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  Do you sit on any boards?

• 25:39Speaker 02

  No. Oh, I have one foundation, but that's.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  What foundation?

• 25:43Speaker 02

  Called the Necessary Foundation, and it helps, uh, it helps queer filmmakers get their projects made. But like, it, it just, I just started like a few months ago.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  Oh, well, you just started it. So meaningful things will begin to happen.

• 25:55Speaker 02

  Yes, but no, but Adam Goldman, this, the wonderful man who started it, is like, sending me the loveliest, gentlest texts, being like, hey, like, let me know if you like, go through your contacts at some point, and I'm like, totally.

• 26:08Speaker 01

  Well, I would love to help out with anything.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Oh my god, please.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Please.

• 26:12Speaker 01

  Speaking of gay stuff, when is Pride?

• 26:15Speaker 02

  Uh, the month of June.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  No, I know it's in June, but what weekend?

• 26:18Speaker 02

  And I actually feel like it's, I mean, it's not, it's both weird and fine that it's like, not as corporate anymore.

• 26:26Speaker 01

  Did, uh, well, it used to be.

• 26:28Speaker 02

  It used to be like, every fucking bank in the world had something, and now it's like, everyone, now that everyone's homophobic again, they're like, just kidding.

• 26:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 26:35Speaker 02

  Um, it's, it has some of my, it's, I've had some of my best memories and some of my like, most had to pee memories in, in New York City.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  Had to pee memories?

• 26:45Speaker 02

  Most had to pee memories. I just, it's just you're standing there, but it's like, you, you just have to pee, but it doesn't matter, cause you're just like, enjoying it.

• 26:51Speaker 01

  What's the worst you've ever had to pee? Cause I know mine.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  I don't think about having to pee as much. Uh, Coachella, I feel like I always have to piss. This past Coachella, I felt like I had to walk across the entire grounds to pee. And, oh my god, the only time I've been like, no to pictures is standing at like, 11pm in the smelliest tent at Coachella with the porta potties.

• 27:18Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 27:19Speaker 02

  Like, someone on Molly is like, can we take a picture? And I'm like, not here, I'm so sorry.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's your boundaries.

• 27:25Speaker 02

  You just can't do it next to shit and piss.

• 27:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, you can.

• 27:28Speaker 02

  Um, but Coachella was recently, I think, I, I have so many memories of, about almost shitting my pants and the times that I've shot my pants. So clear in my.

• 27:37Speaker 01

  I've shot my pants. The last time I shot my pants was.

• 27:43Speaker 01

  More recent than I would like to admit.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  That's okay, but you know what the worst, this is the worst part of shitting your pants.

• 27:51Speaker 02

  It's like if you have to like travel after the, after the moment and you gotta like.

• 27:57Speaker 01

  What?

• 27:58Speaker 02

  You gotta like, keep it, keep it, keep it in the groin so it doesn't fall down a fucking pant leg.

• 28:04Speaker 01

  Oh, okay.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  You know what I'm saying?

• 28:06Speaker 01

  The last time I really shit my pants then was in college, my freshman year.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  That's not that, that's not that recent.

• 28:10Speaker 01

  No, no, but I thought you were talking about like sharding.

• 28:15Speaker 02

  Oh, I see. No, we shart all the time. No, everyone sharts.

• 28:17Speaker 01

  Everyone sharts.

• 28:19Speaker 02

  It's like, it's just not how.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  It just happens.

• 28:21Speaker 02

  It just happens.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  People just don't talk about it.

• 28:24Speaker 02

  I'm so, I have no qualms about talking about it.

• 28:27Speaker 01

  Mm-mm.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  A shirt always.

• 28:29Speaker 01

  Always a shirt.

• 28:31Speaker 02

  It's always wet.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  Always.

• 28:33Speaker 02

  You don't have, you don't have a dry shirt.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  Well, how could you?

• 28:36Speaker 02

  Wouldn't it be crazy if you sharted and it was like a full.

• 28:40Speaker 01

  Like piece of shit?

• 28:41Speaker 02

  Full cylinder. Yeah, yeah.

• 28:44Speaker 01

  Piece of shit. Um.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  Sorry, I don't know what we're going on.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  But the time I had to pee.

• 28:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:49Speaker 01

  The hardest.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 28:50Speaker 01

  Was I was en route to Gov Ball and we were stuck in traffic and I. You know when you have to pee so bad, like you actually think like you are going to die? Like you think like your bladder is going to explode and you're going to actually physically die.

• 29:07Speaker 02

  It's just awful.

• 29:09Speaker 01

  It's really awful.

• 29:10Speaker 02

  Because and, and I think, I think that's, that's good. That's like the human brain, that's evolution, like treating that as like a life threatening situation, which it kind of is.

• 29:18Speaker 01

  It, mm-hmm.

• 29:22Speaker 01

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• 31:45Speaker 02

  Wait, you should be a gamer again.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  I know. Well, I just got a Nintendo Switch.

• 31:50Speaker 02

  Two?

• 31:51Speaker 01

  Two. And I, I check. You know who is the biggest Nintendo Switch legend of Zelda fan? You, you actually won't believe it.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  I, wait, I think I know this. A Zelda fan?

• 32:04Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 32:06Speaker 02

  Rihanna, who?

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Kylie Jenner.

• 32:09Speaker 02

  Are you kidding me?

• 32:10Speaker 01

  No, swear to god. Swear to god and she put me onto it.

• 32:15Speaker 02

  We have a, we have a thing in common now.

• 32:16Speaker 01

  Yes, okay, but I tried to play The Legend of Zelda.

• 32:19Speaker 02

  Which one? Breath of the Wild?

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Breath of the Wild.

• 32:22Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  It is very... See, I'm a Pokemon guy.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 32:26Speaker 01

  Like, I like the structure of Pokemon games.

• 32:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  You have the gems, and then you have the Elite Eight.

• 32:31Speaker 02

  Elite, yeah.

• 32:31Speaker 01

  And then you like, kind of free play until you catch all the rare Pokemon. Like, that's like, my vibe.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  And...

• 32:37Speaker 02

  You're, so you're, you're a JRPG person? Japanese role-playing game?

• 32:41Speaker 01

  Oh, yes.

• 32:41Speaker 02

  Okay, great.

• 32:42Speaker 01

  Oh, yes. Zelda, I, I was very, it was very difficult for me to like, get past like, even the, I was like, what's my goal here?

• 32:50Speaker 02

  That's the beauty of the game, it's, it's open, it's the, it's the most perfected open world game made.

• 32:55Speaker 01

  I can't do it. I have to have...

• 32:57Speaker 02

  I understand, I, I understand.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  I have...

• 33:00Speaker 02

  You want structure.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  I think I'm gonna actually get, if, if, if there is a new Pokemon game on the Nintendo Switch 2, I am gonna get it, and I'm gonna play it, and I'm...

• 33:08Speaker 02

  It's called Wind and Waves.

• 33:09Speaker 01

  Is it good?

• 33:10Speaker 02

  It hasn't come out yet, well, there's, and then there's...

• 33:12Speaker 01

  I got really excited.

• 33:14Speaker 02

  There's, there's, um, it'll come out around Christmas, but I feel like there's Sword and Shield, and there was, um, uh... I've got X and Y.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  Is it good?

• 33:22Speaker 02

  No, not X and Y, sorry, they're fine. You, I think you should play, um, you should play Pokemon Legends Z.A.

• 33:29Speaker 01

  Is that on Nintendo Switch?

• 33:30Speaker 02

  That's on Nintendo Switch and Switch 2, it takes place in Lumio City, which is Paris, basically. Very French, very, very, very your vibe right now. And it's real-time, so it's an action game, but you basically still do the moves, but there's just cooldowns. You don't take turns, it's more like, action-based and it's faster. Oh my god, I'm so sad you're not coming to the Culture Awards.

• 33:49Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, Louise doesn't have to...

• 33:50Speaker 02

  What's that?

• 33:52Speaker 02

  Coming after, okay, great.

• 33:53Speaker 01

  Louise can, Louise?

• 33:55Speaker 02

  Pre-Culture Awards?

• 33:56Speaker 01

  Oh, pre...

• 33:56Speaker 02

  Okay, well...

• 33:56Speaker 01

  You can go to the Culture Awards without me.

• 33:59Speaker 02

  Are you kidding me, Louise? You're coming.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  Wait, go, Louise, go.

• 34:03Speaker 03

  I really can't express you enough.

• 34:06Speaker 02

  You need to come.

• 34:07Speaker 03

  Jake and I, I know I've told you this so many times, the whole time, we're grabbing each other's hands, like, rocking back and forth. Like, this is the best night of my life.

• 34:17Speaker 01

  Kristen Wiig doing the, what did she do again?

• 34:19Speaker 02

  She played Robin, not the, not Robin from Batman around, but Robin with a Y, the woman who was the Berthold's assistant.

• 34:25Speaker 01

  That, whatever, Meg, when Meg Stalter made everyone look for her phone, which, by the way, did not make the final cut.

• 34:32Speaker 02

  We had to cut it.

• 34:33Speaker 01

  It was, you had to be there. I think Meg Stalter is the funniest person.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  The funniest person alive.

• 34:39Speaker 01

  Alive. I think she is the funniest person alive. No one does it like her. I went to her DJ set last night.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  Oh, my God, her album.

• 34:45Speaker 01

  It's, it's actually unbelievable. "No one feels bad for me." And she sat there at the DJ set brushing her hair the entire time. And then, she lost her phone and took 10 minutes out of the DJ set to just scream at everybody to look for her phone. And then a slow song came on and everyone was dancing behind her on the DJ booth and she made them sit down.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  Why? Because she had to find her phone still?

• 35:13Speaker 01

  No, she just said, "Sit down." And they sat down. And then, did you see the video of her going to the kid, "Sing the song," and then she goes, "That was rude." The kid didn't sing.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, I saw that. I watch her Colbert, her late show interview constantly.

• 35:28Speaker 01

  My thing with Meg Stalter is, I don't, I actually don't, because people are, some people are like, "I don't get it." How can you not?

• 35:35Speaker 02

  So apparent.

• 35:36Speaker 01

  How can you not get it? It is the funniest thing on the planet.

• 35:41Speaker 02

  I think it's people who, like, get uncomfortable.

• 35:44Speaker 01

  But that's the point.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  But they, they can't laugh about the discomfort. They can't laugh through it. They only, they stop at discomfort. They're like, "This is bad. I don't like this."

• 35:52Speaker 01

  No, but it's, I literally, like, I, I, I think, like, I, I do not under, I like, can't, like, no one can explain to me, if anyone ever said to me, "I don't get it," I would literally, like, be like, "What about this?"

• 36:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  "Do you not understand?" Like, it is, she is just hysterical.

• 36:12Speaker 02

  Yes, yes. It's like a fundamental...

• 36:17Speaker 02

  Like, it's a cultural fundament- like, it's a fundamentally cultural, I can't, I don't even know what I'm saying. I don't even, I don't even know what I'm saying. I just, she, she is just gonna hit a nerve with people and it's the same nerve that makes you go, ha, ha, ha, or the same nerve that makes you go, I don't get it, I don't like this. Which like, I think-

• 36:36Speaker 01

  Then, I don't wanna be around those people.

• 36:39Speaker 02

  We don't have to explain this too much to our people, cuz they're our people.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:43Speaker 02

  I feel like you're running into more people who like, don't have the same sensibility as you.

• 36:47Speaker 01

  Right.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  I think now that I'm like, in my mid 30s, I'm like, I don't really-

• 36:50Speaker 01

  Right.

• 36:51Speaker 02

  I can't really, I don't, I, I've, my circle has gotten smaller, which is just a, a factor of age, no matter what, no matter who you are, I think. And I think I'm like, oh, I'm like, I don't have to like, spend too much energy like, bringing someone up to speed. Does that make sense?

• 37:05Speaker 01

  That makes sense. That makes sense.

• 37:07Speaker 02

  I just, I just made this so boring.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  No, you didn't.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  Yes, I did.

• 37:10Speaker 01

  No, you didn't. What are you listening to right now?

• 37:14Speaker 02

  Holly, Holly Humberstone?

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Oh, and I've been a Holly fan down since Covid.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  I love her.

• 37:23Speaker 02

  I, I just got-

• 37:24Speaker 01

  Have you ever heard the song Scarlet by her?

• 37:26Speaker 02

  No.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  It's unbelievable. It's one of the, it's one of the her older ones.

• 37:31Speaker 02

  It's one of her older ones?

• 37:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's amazing.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Um, I'm listening to OPN?

• 37:37Speaker 01

  OPN?

• 37:38Speaker 02

  He's the guy who scores like, the Safdie Brothers movies, but he does a lot of like, noise stuff.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  I missed his show, but like, I've been like, into this kind of like, I don't know, like, tense atmospheric stuff. It's so gross. That I am talking about it in this way. But then, um, wait, and then, and then there's one more, hold on. The Naomi Scott album is really good. But remember, remember her song from Smile 2? Blood on White Satin?

• 38:04Speaker 01

  Yes, first of all, Smile 2, fantastic.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  Didn't see, I haven't seen the first, okay, I have to see-

• 38:09Speaker 01

  You haven't seen the first?

• 38:10Speaker 02

  I've seen the first, I haven't seen the second.

• 38:12Speaker 01

  What are you doing differently at this year's culture? Are you filming at the same place? Is it bigger?

• 38:16Speaker 02

  It's a smaller place, actually, but I think that's okay. Um, and we're doing, we're trying not to repeat too much of last- We had, like, like, our, our paths in the wood were, um, you can basically beat for beat do the same show as last year and it'll be totally fine. Like, you can do another Memorial parody, you can do another like, whatever, you could do another like, um, this, that and the other, but I think- The riskier move, and actually, but I think the more fun, thrilling move is just to like, kind of start from scratch. Like, I think like, I'm already kind of gagged at like, the people we've got lined up, and it's not even just people.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  You're like ruining Louise's day right now. By the way, Louise, like, there's no one in this world Louise loves more than Addison Rae.

• 39:04Speaker 02

  My favorite set of Coachella by far.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  I didn't see it.

• 39:07Speaker 02

  It was incredible. And then, literally, and I was, I thought I was like, being like, a fan. The person next to me, stranger taps me on the shoulder at the end, he goes, "That was so fun, watching you watch her."

• 39:19Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 39:19Speaker 02

  And I was like, "Oh," I then, yeah, that's confirmation.

• 39:22Speaker 01

  I felt that way about watching you and Bowen watch Cardi P in Cannes last summer.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  What's Cardi P?

• 39:27Speaker 01

  Cardi B.

• 39:29Speaker 02

  When did that happen? Oh, yeah!

• 39:32Speaker 01

  You and Matt were having the time of your lives.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  Cause she came on after, oh, she was at Spotify?

• 39:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  Oh my god. I'm still traumatized from Cannes.

• 39:43Speaker 01

  Wait, why?

• 39:44Speaker 02

  That was so much drinking and partying and having to sit on a panel, quote unquote, well, no, there were panels. But like, having to sit on panels and then having to like, stay up until like, 3:00 in the morning because like, you kind of felt like you had to, based on like, what was going on there. Like, it was just, and it was just chaotic, and it was like, people trying to get at parties, and it was just like, I think, the south of France, Saint-Tropez, I don't know about, but I feel like Cannes and like, Nice are like, it's just Miami. It's like, it's like, just, it's that kind of like, ugh.

• 40:14Speaker 01

  So, I feel as though I am an expert in the south of France.

• 40:17Speaker 02

  Tell me.

• 40:18Speaker 01

  Because I've never been to Paris, I've only been to the south of France.

• 40:21Speaker 02

  That's so funny.

• 40:22Speaker 01

  It's not, not in even like, a bougie way, it's just like, I've been there for work, or then I went there for a wedding, and then-

• 40:28Speaker 02

  I would say it's not even that bougie.

• 40:29Speaker 01

  It's very like, um, uh, it feels, I don't know how to describe, it's not like, there's one nightclub.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 40:37Speaker 01

  Baoli.

• 40:38Speaker 02

  Baoli.

• 40:39Speaker 01

  And you either have the best night of your life there. Or nobody is there.

• 40:46Speaker 01

  That is like, one time Louise and I went there, it was a carnival. They were like, they were, it was the-

• 40:51Speaker 03

  It was an actual carnival though.

• 40:52Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 40:53Speaker 01

  There was a Ferris wheel, like it was like the, it was the, I think that was the best time of my life. Smoking cigarettes inside, like whatever, like just having the best time of my life.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Oh god. That's what, that's what the culture awards were missing. We needed like drugs in the carnival.

• 41:06Speaker 01

  This reminds me, are you watching Rhode Island?

• 41:08Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 41:10Speaker 01

  Alicia?

• 41:11Speaker 02

  Alicia?

• 41:12Speaker 01

  She, what, what are these like bagel bites that she, or the pizza bites that's literally just bread?

• 41:17Speaker 02

  Pizza chips. I did not, I didn't know about, I hear pizza chips and I'm like, okay, so it's like a little potato chip with like seasoning.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  It's, it's just bread.

• 41:26Speaker 02

  It's just bread with tomato sauce.

• 41:29Speaker 01

  I do not fuck with the one, and I'm sorry.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  Rula, Rosie?

• 41:34Speaker 01

  No, Rula, Rula, okay, here's the thing about Rula is she brings discourse, like people don't like-

• 41:40Speaker 02

  No, no, she's, she's a great character.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's a great character. I don't fuck with, is it Ashley the one who was on The Bachelor? I'm sorry.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  And I think, but I think she and her husband like moved there for the show, if I'm not mistaken?

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 41:56Speaker 01

  Let's fight. Like, let's fight, please.

• 42:01Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 42:02Speaker 01

  I struggle with reality television in general. I, the only reality TV I can do is Housewives. It's the only TV I can do.

• 42:08Speaker 02

  I'm kind of the same, so like, what's that about?

• 42:11Speaker 01

  I, I'm used to old reality television. Like, I watched Bad Girls Club. Were you ever a Bad Girls Club fan?

• 42:17Speaker 02

  I never was and, I'm trying to, someone's trying to put me on it, but what's the new show?

• 42:22Speaker 01

  Baddies.

• 42:22Speaker 02

  Baddies.

• 42:23Speaker 01

  It goes deep.

• 42:25Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 42:27Speaker 01

  And it's like crazy. Like, I'm, I know everything about Baddies. Everything, everything, everything, everything. But, so basically the best season of Baddies, there's two. Baddies South, which was season two, and um, Baddies, Baddies, I think it was Baddies West.

• 42:45Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 42:45Speaker 01

  And that's when Stunna Girl was on.

• 42:47Speaker 02

  Uh huh. Who's Stunna Girl?

• 42:50Speaker 01

  She's Stunna Girl. Bad East South was so good because there was a real narrative. And like, they, they were really trying to, they like really traveled the south and, you know, and there was a real narrative going on there and now it's, every episode is,

• 43:07Speaker 01

  Natalie calls a house meeting before everyone goes out and goes, and it just like, you have to fight. Whereas on Bad Girls Club, if you hit somebody, you got kicked out of the house.

• 43:17Speaker 02

  Right.

• 43:18Speaker 01

  So it was like this tension brewing and brewing and brewing and brewing and brewing. And then there would be this one massive fight, like in Bad Girls Club New Orleans. Judy and Priscilla, Priscilla beat Judy bloody. Like, and, and, cause, well, Judy goes, Priscilla, I made you breakfast in bed. And dumps cereal all over Priscilla's bed. And Priscilla just like beats the fucking living shit out of Judy. And like.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  This is original Bad Girls Club?

• 43:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, original, no, nothing touches original Bad Girls Club. Then, and, oh my God, Bad Girls Club Miami. Oh my God, Bad Girls Club Cabo. I've seen every single season of Bad Girls Club.

• 44:03Speaker 02

  So it's just Housewives and Bad Girls Club for you?

• 44:05Speaker 01

  And America's Next Top Model.

• 44:07Speaker 02

  But there hasn't been a new cycle of that.

• 44:10Speaker 01

  So that's what I'm saying. I only do old.

• 44:12Speaker 02

  Oh, got it, got it. And you're, and you will be watching whatever the new Tyra creation is. So Matt and I recapped the, the most recent cycle, which was like 2018. And I was, I was just like, what's, what's this all for? And it was also like my first, it was the first, it was one of the first times La Roche was on TV. And like, I, I went through the cycle with La Roche where I was like, I'm not, I'm not sure what this man is about. And now I'm obsessed with him.

• 44:38Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. What did he say recently that I just died for? Oh, bring back gatekeeping. He was like, not everyone's meant to have what you have. I literally was like, ah.

• 44:48Speaker 02

  I think gatekeeping, I think, I think gatekeeping has always remained.

• 44:52Speaker 01

  I, yeah.

• 44:54Speaker 02

  I think, and I think for whatever reason, people, people are still gatekeeping and sure. Why not?

• 45:00Speaker 01

  Right.

• 45:00Speaker 02

  I have no take on this beyond.

• 45:02Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 45:02Speaker 02

  It's, it's, it's not gone.

• 45:03Speaker 01

  The reason I loved OG America's Next Top Model is because I was a child.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 45:07Speaker 01

  And I genuinely believed that when these women won the show,

• 45:11Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 45:11Speaker 01

  they would go on to become a top model.

• 45:14Speaker 02

  Totally. But you know, you know, I think American Idol, uh, implanted this in my brain where I was like, whoever wins this is gonna be.

• 45:23Speaker 01

  Kelly Clarkson.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  The big, the biggest.

• 45:25Speaker 01

  Carrie Underwood.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  Exactly. This never happened.

• 45:27Speaker 01

  Who else was, uh?

• 45:28Speaker 02

  Ruben Studdard, um, Fantasia Barrino.

• 45:31Speaker 01

  No, but then, um.

• 45:33Speaker 02

  Taylor Hicks, Clay Aiken, Adam Lambert.

• 45:39Speaker 01

  No, but there was someone else too.

• 45:41Speaker 02

  I think we, I think we, I think we said David Archileta, Da.

• 45:45Speaker 01

  She, Jennifer Hudson.

• 45:47Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 45:47Speaker 01

  Jennifer Hudson, that's one thing enough.

• 45:48Speaker 02

  Uh-huh, uh-huh.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  She made a, I mean.

• 45:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 45:51Speaker 01

  She's Jennifer Hudson.

• 45:51Speaker 02

  She got an Oscar a few years later.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, American Idol, I would say is the only show to successfully create stars.

• 46:00Speaker 02

  Create stars. Well, I think.

• 46:01Speaker 01

  Besides the X Factor, One Direction, Fifth Army.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  Of course, of course. But for, yeah, for shows like that, for X Factor and American Idol to run parallel to Top Model, kind of like, it seemed to be this like, global belief that like, whoever wins these shows will go on to great success.

• 46:21Speaker 01

  You know who actually was on America's Next Top Model and left and is like now one of the top models? Winnie Harlow.

• 46:29Speaker 02

  Winnie Harlow.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  As you guys know, Venmo and I have been working together this season on Therapists. And so tonight, or today, whenever you guys are watching this, we are going to be bringing you some more financial leaning, tell me what's wrongs, given that Venmo is a financial app. I love the Venmo debit card, so my advice will probably be leaning a lot towards using that because I think it is like, for me, the easiest way to spend my Venmo balance. My friend is having a really small intimate wedding with his family and a few close, close friends. Our friend group is nine people and only. Three are invited to the wedding. I didn't think much of this until all nine of us got invited to her bachelorette trip and it's gonna cost at least fifteen hundred dollars. Am I being crazy for thinking that's kind of selfish? Like, we're apparently close enough to drop a ton of money on her bachelorette, but not close enough to be there for her actual wedding.

• 47:16Speaker 01

  Help. If you maybe flip it, like, maybe she can't afford to have both a big wedding and a big bachelorette. But like, obviously, if you can't spend the money, then you just have to tell her, "I can't spend this money." And if she's a real friend, she'll understand. It's also unfair that only three people are invited. I think that's where it gets tricky for me. I would just, like, analyze the situation, like, is this because of a money reason? Like, can she not afford both? Or is this just out of pure, like, this is what she wants? Because if that's the case, then you can also be like, "Well, then I'm not spending this if I'm not invited to the actual event." But then at that point, do you actually want to even be invited anymore? I pay for everything for me and my boyfriend, and I make way more than him, so it's kind of fair. But at the same time, it would be nice if he chipped in once in a while.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  Do I just start cold Venmo requesting him for stuff, or does this need to be a serious discussion? I've actually thought about this a lot. I think the cold Venmo request will catch him off guard. Maybe be like, "Hey, can you, do you mind if I, can I Venmo request you for this?" You know what I mean? Like, "I'm gonna Venmo request you for this meal." Base your decisions on his reactions thereafter. I can't cook for the life of me, so I eat out almost every meal, and it's costing me. Do you have any suggestions for how to motivate myself to cook? Or even, like, hacks for cheap meals anywhere? I cannot keep up with this habit. If you really hate cooking that much, collab with your friends. Go to each other's houses. Make meals together. Like, make it an activity to do with other people, so that it's not just you, and it doesn't feel like a chore. And it's way more expensive to cook for one than it is to cook for a group of people. But if you still do not want to cook,

• 48:43Speaker 01

  you can use Venmo Stash Rewards to earn cash back on places you're already spending money. And when you use your Venmo balance at these places, like, you will earn cash back. So you can pick, like, a bundle of your favorite brands and earn cash back on that. Also, I feel like the solace of spending with a Venmo balance is, like, you know exactly how much you have, and it's coming out of that one account of yours, the Venmo account. It's not coming out of, like, your savings or something, is like, a good way to think about it. The Venmo Mastercard is issued by the Bancorp Bank, N.A. Venmo Stash bundle terms and exclusions apply. Max $100 cash back per month. See terms at venmo.me/stashterms. Venmo checkout not available at all merchants. Thank you again, Venmo, for sponsoring tonight's episode and the special edition of Tell Me What's Wrong.

• 49:31Speaker 01

  Bowen, what are you therapist about today?

• 49:34Speaker 02

  What I'm therapist about today is, honestly, this is gonna sound so boring, but it's my back pain.

• 49:39Speaker 01

  I knew you were gonna say your back pain.

• 49:40Speaker 02

  But it's, it's just, and I was gonna come in here and be like, this is what you have to look forward to. But the fact that you're experiencing it at 26?

• 49:46Speaker 01

  Well, are you on Muscle Not TikTok?

• 49:52Speaker 01

  It's, I just like licked my lips. It is like the best thing on planet Earth. You, they, they have these gloves on and they like, it's, it's a back, obviously.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 50:05Speaker 01

  And they put their finger on and you see the knot? No, it, no, no, no. No, no, no.

• 50:12Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:12Speaker 01

  And they go, and it just, and like scientifically, actually, they're not getting the knot out. Like, what's really happening is they're pushing, pushing the muscle to the end and it snaps back in place. But if you just tell yourself that-

• 50:27Speaker 02

  It's like when you, it's like when you get an air bubble out of a screen protector.

• 50:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what it looks like.

• 50:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 50:30Speaker 01

  That's what it looks like. It's awesome. Also dry, dry needling.

• 50:34Speaker 02

  Dry needling, for sure.

• 50:35Speaker 01

  And then muscle twitches.

• 50:37Speaker 02

  I'm therapist about my back pain.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  Yep.

• 50:39Speaker 02

  What can, what can we talk about?

• 50:41Speaker 01

  How much I love you.

• 50:41Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 50:42Speaker 01

  Oh, and we can talk about the Tell Me What's Wrong's.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  I will never forget the Tell Me What's Wrong's from Radio City.

• 50:47Speaker 01

  Whoa, what were they?

• 50:48Speaker 02

  Which is like, like, um-

• 50:49Speaker 01

  Oh, like I fucked my cousin, what do I do?

• 50:51Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no. One of them was, my roommate fucked my date and then-

• 50:55Speaker 01

  Oh, and she said, "Tee."

• 50:58Speaker 01

  And how could you be mad, Tee?

• 51:01Speaker 02

  That's insane.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  It's everything. It's camp. I'm doing a program in Copenhagen this summer and I have a weekend break where I can travel. One of my best friends is really close with my ex-boyfriend, who is Norwegian. We have been broken up for two years. They FaceTimed each other when I was in the room and on a whim, I told my ex I would be in Norway for a weekend. He talked, so a lot of exposition, a lot of exposition.

• 51:26Speaker 02

  They haven't planned this trip, okay, go.

• 51:27Speaker 01

  I don't, no, I think this is, no, I am doing this process.

• 51:31Speaker 02

  Oh, she is.

• 51:31Speaker 01

  He told me I should come and stay with him. It's taken me a long time to get over him. I haven't dated anyone since and both of us are single. Do I go to Norway? Oh my god, I would.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  I would, just, if it's just for the weekend, sure. It's gonna be, it's, it's already time bound, it's low stakes.

• 51:47Speaker 01

  Listen to His of the Damn Season by Taylor Swift and just fucking do it.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Oh my god, but that's about a hometown.

• 51:52Speaker 01

  But it's about like seeing an ex.

• 51:54Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  And getting back together with them just for the weekend. You can call me babe for the weekend. Talk about the best song ever, by the way.

• 52:01Speaker 02

  Talk about.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Talk about the Eras Tour. Oh my god, I saw a TikTok the other day of like being like.

• 52:07Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  I prescribed to the damn season.

• 52:11Speaker 01

  My boss absolutely reeks. Like, he seriously smells like bad sushi.

• 52:15Speaker 02

  Quit.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  Which, okay, his office.

• 52:20Speaker 01

  His office is right next to mine, so I'm forced to put up with his stench all day and it makes me wanna vomit. I pull my shirt up over my nose to avoid it most of the time. Other people have walked past and said, oh my god, what is that awful smell? And nobody realizes it is him, including him. I don't wanna tell him because fired, what do I do? HR.

• 52:39Speaker 02

  That is exactly what HR is meant to help with.

• 52:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, you have to. Oh my god, I can't deal with smells. If I assign a smell to a person, you're done.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  You're dead.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  You're done. You're done. You're done. You're done. I can't do it. Oh my god. I can't. I can't.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  Is it, oh god, is it the kind of office where you can burn a candle, like a five wick candle? This person has an office next to the boss.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  Oh my god, it makes me feel sick if I had to smell that every day. Oh, I hate smells. I hate smells. I'm like a pregnant woman. I hate smells.

• 53:09Speaker 02

  And like even like perfumes and colognes are too strong?

• 53:12Speaker 01

  No, but I hate the smell of Sephora.

• 53:14Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 53:14Speaker 01

  Sephora, you walk in and it's just like.

• 53:19Speaker 01

  That's like the smell of Sephora to me. It's just like a cough of perfume.

• 53:23Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 53:24Speaker 01

  Like Louise and I went to Sephora today to kill time and I was so upset about it. Louise walked in and said, do you need anything? And I said, no. And she's, I said, do you? And she said, no. And we walked out and then sat. You know Louise, okay, you know the thing about Louise is Louise can read anywhere.

• 53:44Speaker 02

  Oh, I'm so jealous.

• 53:45Speaker 01

  Like Louise could sit right now and start reading as we're talking and continue reading.

• 53:48Speaker 02

  What are you reading right now?

• 53:50Speaker 01

  Why don't you pick up the mic?

• 53:52Speaker 03

  I just started The Lover.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 53:55Speaker 03

  And I just finished last night Madonna in a fur coat.

• 53:58Speaker 02

  Okay, great. These are, these are books that I feel like I should know and I don't.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, you should, you should read.

• 54:02Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 54:06Speaker 02

  I love it. Yes, I should.

• 54:08Speaker 03

  You would really enjoy it.

• 54:09Speaker 02

  I'm reading, I'm reading bullshit.

• 54:11Speaker 03

  What are you reading?

• 54:13Speaker 02

  Oh no, I'm actually, I'm actually reading a really good novel. The Lath of Heaven by Ursula K. Le Guin.

• 54:19Speaker 01

  This is now becoming too

• 54:22Speaker 02

  Yes, oh my god, in one day.

• 54:24Speaker 03

  Oh my god, how amazing.

• 54:25Speaker 02

  It's an intense book.

• 54:26Speaker 01

  I know.

• 54:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, but it's, it's an amazing, incredible, she's, she's fucking amazing.

• 54:31Speaker 01

  It is so, it's funny that the, the, the crux of girls is her saying she's the voice of her generation in a joking manner.

• 54:39Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 54:39Speaker 01

  Because she is. Do you know what I mean?

• 54:42Speaker 02

  But she's still, even in the book, she's like, yeah, and you read it, it's like, even, she's like, that was a joke.

• 54:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 54:47Speaker 01

  She is, she is. There's no one else that speaks like.

• 54:51Speaker 02

  Uh huh. And for you to be like, so in it and make a show about it, like, immediately.

• 54:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  And for you to be able to like, pull up and see it for what it is, like, that's impossible.

• 55:02Speaker 01

  You know what I thought was awesome? When she was like, I was working, and like, her, it was her, the Safdie brothers and Greta Gerwig.

• 55:08Speaker 02

  I know.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  Just all working together in like, this place, like, how awesome, and they all.

• 55:12Speaker 02

  They all blew up.

• 55:12Speaker 01

  Are now them.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  I know. It's so cool.

• 55:17Speaker 02

  Daughter!

• 55:19Speaker 01

  My ex is my stepbrother now.

• 55:21Speaker 02

  What?

• 55:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, period. We were together for two years and things got nasty towards the end. While we were together, I guess my mom and his dad both divorces. Divorcees?

• 55:33Speaker 02

  Whatever you want.

• 55:34Speaker 01

  Fell in love and failed to share any of this information with us. I fear I'm in a cursed timeline and have to see him all the time now. Help me and set some healthy boundaries. Oh, help me set some healthy boundaries.

• 55:45Speaker 02

  Well, I feel like the boundaries is, was the break, well, I could, that's so hard. And actually, that's, well, Paul Rudd and Clueless, they, they started as step siblings and then they, they got together.

• 55:55Speaker 01

  Right, same with Copia Mia.

• 55:57Speaker 02

  What's Copia Mia?

• 55:59Speaker 01

  You gotta see Copia Mia.

• 56:00Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 56:01Speaker 01

  So, in Copia Mia.

• 56:03Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 56:03Speaker 01

  Basically, Nicole Wallace's mom is getting married to this very wealthy guy and Nicole Wallace falls in love with the son.

• 56:13Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  My advice is that.

• 56:18Speaker 01

  You should be so, you should be like, "My life is crazy." And just tell people like, "My life is crazy. You guys have no idea. My life is crazy."

• 56:26Speaker 02

  Embrace it.

• 56:27Speaker 01

  Embrace the crazy.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  She's already halfway there.

• 56:29Speaker 01

  Like embrace the crazy, be like, "My life is so not normal." Like to the point where like, start making light of it and making jokes about it.

• 56:37Speaker 02

  Make art about it.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  Make art about, make art about it.

• 56:40Speaker 02

  Truly.

• 56:40Speaker 01

  Make art. "I work as a manager at a hotel. Since I live really close to work, UPS will sometimes deliver my personal packages there. The other day, I was in the housekeeping storage room and found a box addressed to me that was opened. It was a vibrator I ordered. I don't know who the culprit is. Should I say something? Can you check the cameras?"

• 57:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 57:02Speaker 01

  Well, I guess you can't in the closet.

• 57:04Speaker 02

  Oh, sure. Does she say something? I think we're at the point now in the culture where it's like, yeah, we all stick things in each, in ourselves.

• 57:15Speaker 01

  No, but that's not her problem. Her problem is somebody fucking opened it.

• 57:19Speaker 02

  I know, which is illegal.

• 57:21Speaker 01

  Right. So she, now she wants to get revenge. Or just find out who it was and be like, "Why'd you steal my shit?" Or ta, or open my shit. Maybe they were just curious. As long as they didn't steal your belongings.

• 57:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:33Speaker 01

  Just, my advice would be to stop having your shit sent to the hotel.

• 57:37Speaker 02

  Oh, interesting. Although, oh god, one of the things about like going into a place of work and it having like a solid shipping situation is like, that is, that is so important.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Really?

• 57:46Speaker 02

  I remember the days when like, I would get shit sent to work.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  Where'd you work?

• 57:51Speaker 02

  I don't know, it's called One Kings Lane, not, not far from here.

• 57:55Speaker 01

  And what'd you do?

• 57:56Speaker 02

  I was one of their marketing graphic designers.

• 58:00Speaker 01

  You do graphic design?

• 58:01Speaker 02

  I used to. And now, I couldn't tell ya anything about it. It's all, ugh, it's all out. It's all, it's all gone from my brain.

• 58:11Speaker 01

  "I just started getting close with my coworkers recently, and on a night out, I made the mistake of telling them I began taking Lexapro since the job." I don't think that's bad.

• 58:19Speaker 02

  That's not bad.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Not a big deal apparently to these guys. Oh, not a big deal, but apparently to these guys, I'm a drug addict now. What? They're not even throwing shade, just like cracking jokes to everyone in the office about it. And it's super uncomfortable. What do I say to them? Because they are fun, just this is a little whack. I think they're like, actually like-

• 58:40Speaker 01

  And I mean this like full heartedly, like very stupid.

• 58:44Speaker 02

  I was gonna say like you don't wanna get close to these people.

• 58:48Speaker 01

  Wha- what?

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Don't be friends with them. Ew, that sucks.

• 58:51Speaker 01

  It's, what do you mean you're a drug dealer for taking Lexapro?

• 58:54Speaker 02

  I take Lexapro, I guess I'm a fucking addict.

• 58:57Speaker 01

  I take Luvox. Luvox, by the way, has changed my life. And I'll tell you why. When I am taking Luvox and not smoking weed, which is not often, but it was the other day, I am like, "Good morning!", like, "Good morning Louise, how are you Manny?", like, "What's up?", like, "How are you?", like, "Today is beautiful, like, let's have a day."

• 59:19Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  When I'm taking Luvox and smoking weed, I'm back to Jake.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  Totally. Weed's been the thing that's like helped me get my mind off this back pain.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  Weed's the best thing on planet Earth, you know, I'm smoking immediately after this.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  And I'm like, is this developed, cause you know Lady Gaga got addicted to it?

• 59:34Speaker 01

  To weed?

• 59:35Speaker 02

  Chromatic, like, or during Duran, where she was like, "I don't want people to get it twisted", like, you can get addicted to marijuana.

• 59:44Speaker 01

  I am addicted to weed.

• 59:45Speaker 02

  And so, and I think I am too.

• 59:48Speaker 01

  I am. It's very, um, I think, I think we are the guinea pigs for weed addiction. Because it's sold now, like legally.

• 59:56Speaker 02

  Right, right, right.

• 59:57Speaker 01

  So it's so much more accessible.

• 59:59Speaker 02

  And so we're, we're the guinea pigs.

• 1:00:01Speaker 01

  But like that, I, like, smoking a joint for me is, like, I'm not a big drinker.

• 1:00:07Speaker 02

  Me neither. It's the, it's the perfect way for me to wind down.

• 1:00:09Speaker 01

  Oh my god, just like smoking a joint, like, it's like burns my throat a bit, like, I feel like lighter, like, I like, it's like a glass of wine for me.

• 1:00:17Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 1:00:18Speaker 01

  And I don't feel hungover in the morning, I just feel anxious and like, maybe I wanna kill myself.

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Just on par with a hangover.

• 1:00:27Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. Jake, I saw messages on my boyfriend's, wait, did we give her advice? Oh yeah, stop sending packages to your place of work.

• 1:00:34Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, this is, this is the one with the Lexapro.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, those are not your friends.

• 1:00:38Speaker 02

  Those are not your friends.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  You, why would you wanna be friends with people that fucking stupid?

• 1:00:42Speaker 02

  Period.

• 1:00:43Speaker 01

  Literally, like...

• 1:00:46Speaker 01

  What? Like, what? That's not even a funny joke.

• 1:00:50Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  It's not even, but it's not even not funny because it's like you're making fun of mental illness. It's just not funny, period.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:00:57Speaker 01

  That's not funny.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  That's not funny.

• 1:00:59Speaker 01

  All my friends are on Met. Every single one of my friends. Are you on Met?

• 1:01:02Speaker 03

  I used to be on LexPro.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  You're not anymore? You're healed? You're a healed Whitney.

• 1:01:08Speaker 02

  Healed. You missed your healing journey.

• 1:01:11Speaker 01

  You don't get that, do you?

• 1:01:15Speaker 01

  She's missing out.

• 1:01:16Speaker 02

  You don't get that, do you?

• 1:01:19Speaker 01

  Jake, I saw messages on my boyfriend's phone between him and ChatGPT. He was talking about how I have a vibrator. My boyfriend told ChatGPT that our sexual relationship isn't what it used to be. Why is he telling ChatGPT this?

• 1:01:30Speaker 02

  That's terrible.

• 1:01:30Speaker 01

  Because I have a vibrator. Oh, ew. These people sound horrible.

• 1:01:35Speaker 02

  I know.

• 1:01:36Speaker 01

  He doesn't know that I saw these messages, those messages. Should I ignore it? What should I do? No. You can be like, I saw your fucking ChatGPT messages, you freak.

• 1:01:44Speaker 02

  I, that's, that feels so deeply, that's like a deeper level of shame than like looking through emails. Like, talking to ChatGPT to some guys is probably like intimate beyond intimate.

• 1:02:01Speaker 01

  Well, your boyfriend also like is maybe gay and hates women. Like, why is he mad that you have a vibrator? Why is that ruining your sex life?

• 1:02:08Speaker 02

  I know. Like, that's not-

• 1:02:09Speaker 01

  Am I wrong? Like, right?

• 1:02:12Speaker 02

  Let women have vibrators.

• 1:02:14Speaker 01

  That's weird. Like, why don't you want her to experience pleasure? That's strange.

• 1:02:17Speaker 02

  It's, uh-huh, like, you can't be, it's this thing where like, it's such an American thing to be like, I have to be the partner to fulfill every need.

• 1:02:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:02:26Speaker 02

  In France, it's like, oh no, you have your fuck buddy and you have your intellectual boyfriend and your whatever boyfriend.

• 1:02:33Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:02:34Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like the French thing. It's like, no, your partner isn't going to be able to carry all of your expectations for it. It's like, they're not going to be able to fulfill every single need.

• 1:02:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, your boyfriend hates women and he does not want you to experience joy. And you should break up with him.

• 1:02:48Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:02:49Speaker 01

  I just, oh my god, more. I just found out my boyfriend cheated from three different girls. We've been together for five years and he recently tested positive for an STD.

• 1:02:57Speaker 02

  Cut it out.

• 1:02:59Speaker 01

  Only a few days passed and one by one, I get messages from these girls saying he called them to go get checked. I'm sorry, it's not funny. As if the STD wasn't bad enough for me. I just found out he's been cheating for years. How should I kill him? Watch John Tucker Must Die. And you collab with the girls.

• 1:03:15Speaker 02

  You collab with the girls. Oh, yes, you're so right. You're making all these pop culture connections. I'm so.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  Are you proud?

• 1:03:20Speaker 02

  I'm so proud. Well, I never expected anything less.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  Thank you. I have some weird issue where I pretend to be asleep if anyone comes into my room. No matter what time of the day or night, if someone comes in, I'll turn everything off and pretend to be asleep. I don't know why I do this. I do it every single time and have done it for years. What could this be?

• 1:03:38Speaker 02

  Where does this person live when someone comes into the room?

• 1:03:41Speaker 01

  I think a college dorm, it sounds like.

• 1:03:42Speaker 02

  I see, I see.

• 1:03:44Speaker 01

  Sounds like you just don't.

• 1:03:44Speaker 02

  Is it like a railroad style apartment where like they have to like pass through the room in order to get to theirs?

• 1:03:50Speaker 01

  No, I think it's like, I don't know.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Okay, right? Like, that's, I, I.

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  Did you, when you were at, you went to NYU, right? Did you live in a dorm freshman year?

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  Never lived in a dorm and it freaked me out. It freaked me out.

• 1:04:01Speaker 01

  So that's why you're not, okay, so when you live in a dorm.

• 1:04:03Speaker 02

  Oh, sure, sure, sure. And like.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  Your door is unlocked constantly.

• 1:04:06Speaker 02

  And if, and it's your roommate.

• 1:04:08Speaker 01

  It's not only that, it's just like people come, like Brett, like I like would sometimes wake up to like my best friend Brett just being in my room.

• 1:04:14Speaker 02

  I would be, okay, got it.

• 1:04:15Speaker 01

  Doing homework because like she couldn't in her room because her roommate was asleep.

• 1:04:18Speaker 02

  Sounds like a nightmare.

• 1:04:20Speaker 01

  It was awesome.

• 1:04:21Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:04:21Speaker 01

  It was the best time of my life. I've never experienced such joy in my entire life. I felt like I ruled the world. I was like, I remember the first night of college. Where everyone was like, okay, should we eat now? Like, should we order food and eat? And I was like, wait.

• 1:04:39Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:04:39Speaker 01

  What?

• 1:04:40Speaker 02

  I get to eat with the people?

• 1:04:41Speaker 01

  We can just have like a sleepover and eat and have fun?

• 1:04:43Speaker 02

  Oh, I, yeah, you're right. You're so right. It is such a.

• 1:04:46Speaker 01

  I don't know what your issue is. I just, maybe you're an introvert.

• 1:04:49Speaker 02

  Um, no, I just, my sister went to NYU and like, it just made sense to live with her.

• 1:04:53Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. Well, that's fun.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:55Speaker 01

  How'd you meet Matt?

• 1:04:57Speaker 02

  I was on the improv team at NYU and he wanted to get on the sketch team and then I was, I had a crush on a girl who lived on his floor.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  Are you bisexual?

• 1:05:06Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:05:06Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:05:07Speaker 02

  But at the time, at the time, I was like, after conversion therapy, I was like, I guess I'm straight again.

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  You did conversion therapy?

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  And then, yes.

• 1:05:15Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm so sorry.

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  No, that's okay, that's okay. It wasn't like electrodes or anything. It was just like a creepy guy like telling me like, this is why being gay is bad. So, um. I was in, I was in love with this girl.

• 1:05:25Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:05:26Speaker 02

  Gorgeous girl.

• 1:05:26Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:05:27Speaker 02

  Gorgeous Asian. Um, and she, uh, was friends with Matt. And the first time I ever saw Matt was on Facebook. When you could post videos to walls. And I, and I'm stalking this girl. I just like, just because Facebook stalking this girl.

• 1:05:43Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 1:05:43Speaker 02

  Cause I was just, and I wasn't like creepy or anything.

• 1:05:46Speaker 01

  That's not creepy. People stalk people on Instagram all the time.

• 1:05:48Speaker 02

  Exactly, exactly. And so, but then there's a video of, of this guy. And it's Matt Rogers being like, hey. I shouldn't say her name, but like, hey, I'm sending you a little naked video. And it was just like him, like, just like doing a little naked dance, but like above the waist.

• 1:06:05Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 1:06:06Speaker 02

  And I was like, who the fuck?

• 1:06:07Speaker 01

  And he publicly posted this?

• 1:06:08Speaker 02

  He publicly posted this and I was like, who the fuck is this kid? Like, closing in on my girl.

• 1:06:15Speaker 02

  But then, the first time we met in person, I remember it was the elevator doors opened and then I go in and then we both like clocked each other. And like, he, like, kind of wanted to impress me. Like, he thought, he thought like I had status over him and I like didn't see it that way. And then he auditioned for the improv group the next year when we were sophomores. And I go up to him before the audition, I was like, oh my God, I'm so excited. Like, you're, you're trying out for the groups this year. I was like, I went out of my way to be nice to him. And then he got cut after the first round and he blamed it on me.

• 1:06:43Speaker 01

  And then how did you become friends?

• 1:06:44Speaker 02

  And then he got on the sketch group a week later. And then like, I was the gay guy in the improv group, he was the gay guy in the sketch group. And all the other kids were like, play with each other.

• 1:06:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  And then we were like, no, like, it was like, it was like an arranged marriage thing of like, stop. Like, we hate this. And then, like, it's not, we're not gonna be friends just because we're gay. And then we were friends just because we were gay. It was like the Step Brothers, do we just become best friends moment?

• 1:07:08Speaker 01

  You know, I've never seen Step Brothers.

• 1:07:10Speaker 02

  Get stoned tonight, watch it. It's, you will not regret it. You will be crying.

• 1:07:13Speaker 01

  You know what my plans are for tonight?

• 1:07:15Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:07:16Speaker 01

  I have a big group friend, cause I haven't seen my friends at all this weekend.

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  Uh huh.

• 1:07:20Speaker 01

  And I have a big friend dinner at Ty Villa.

• 1:07:25Speaker 02

  Cute.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  That sounds so cute.

• 1:07:29Speaker 01

  I'm really excited about it.

• 1:07:31Speaker 02

  You're gonna get stoned before the friend dinner?

• 1:07:32Speaker 01

  I'm gonna go to the friend dinner with a joint, smoke outside the restaurant, go in and order.

• 1:07:36Speaker 02

  Fab. Oh, I love that. Wait, I don't wanna push myself onto you, but I feel like we should get stoned sometime.

• 1:07:45Speaker 01

  Uh, please.

• 1:07:46Speaker 02

  And just like watch a silly little movie or something.

• 1:07:49Speaker 01

  I would love that. And order food.

• 1:07:50Speaker 02

  Mother-daughter, like we're.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  Mother-daughter.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:07:53Speaker 01

  Yes. My roommate and her boyfriend have such loud sex, you can hear it in your room. We don't speak often because she's a narcissist and thinks she does nothing wrong, but her gross, ratty boyfriend is over all the time. All they do is have sex, argue, and drink. I literally cannot stand her and find joy when she isn't in the house. I'm not the problem, right?

• 1:08:12Speaker 02

  No, certainly not.

• 1:08:14Speaker 01

  You should watch that new movie, Roommates, on Netflix.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  Written by Jimmy Fallon and Kiro Sullivan. Sorry.

• 1:08:19Speaker 01

  Wait, yes, who was it written by again?

• 1:08:21Speaker 02

  Jimmy Fallon and Kiro Sullivan.

• 1:08:23Speaker 01

  I love Jimmy Fallon.

• 1:08:24Speaker 02

  Jimmy's the best.

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  The best.

• 1:08:25Speaker 02

  Best.

• 1:08:25Speaker 01

  The best. One of the funniest. Funniest, funniest, funniest. What did I see? Was he in Search Party?

• 1:08:32Speaker 02

  I'm sure he was. He's been in everything. He was in season two of The Comeback. He was, no, he was in the other two.

• 1:08:38Speaker 01

  That's what it was. And he was the Instaguy.

• 1:08:41Speaker 02

  He was the Instaguy. So funny.

• 1:08:42Speaker 01

  Oh, my god, the best show ever.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  You're so funny, Carrot. You're like Amy Schumer. It's so, he's amazing.

• 1:08:50Speaker 01

  God, the other two was the best.

• 1:08:52Speaker 02

  So good, so good.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:08:55Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:08:56Speaker 01

  I miss the other two.

• 1:08:57Speaker 02

  I know. Isn't it cool, though, like you're like on hacks? Like you're like in this whole, like, you're in that whole like mix of like these comedy shows that like.

• 1:09:06Speaker 01

  I feel very accepted by the comedy scene, which is very.

• 1:09:10Speaker 02

  Cause you're funny.

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  Which is, thank you, but it's very nice because sometimes I don't like feel that way from people online. So when people in like your scene accept me and like take me in, it feels very good.

• 1:09:22Speaker 02

  I had a moment like this last week where I just kind of like. I like stumbled on like a snark page or something and I was like

• 1:09:29Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  I fully spun out and then I was like, I need to treat this like a fucking chemical spill zone.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's the worst.

• 1:09:37Speaker 02

  It's like, actually, the air is poison.

• 1:09:39Speaker 01

  It's, it's bad.

• 1:09:40Speaker 02

  Do you know what I mean? Like, it's just, it's actually, it's lethal if you get anywhere near it.

• 1:09:45Speaker 01

  I don't go on, I can't, I don't, I used to like find-

• 1:09:49Speaker 02

  I used, I used to vanity search all the time.

• 1:09:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, all the time. I used to find the most joy. I had a whole bit on tour. It was like a joke of mine that I would tell that I would like wake up and Google my name on Twitter and it was like the best is not the best. Because I used to find mean tweets about myself.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  Me too.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  And, and I would read them at my show and it was very, very, very funny. But it got to the point where it became too personal and it's not funny anymore.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  Like the abyss stares back. It's like, if you look too long and like the dark thing, like it, it will have an effect on you.

• 1:10:20Speaker 01

  My thing is like, I don't care if you, well, I do, like, I, I, at the time I wore this very bad, it was like a, whatever. Well, how did we get here?

• 1:10:30Speaker 02

  Um.

• 1:10:31Speaker 01

  Oh, The Roommate.

• 1:10:31Speaker 02

  The Roommate.

• 1:10:32Speaker 01

  Roommates, written by Jimmy Failli.

• 1:10:33Speaker 02

  Oh, yes. And being accepted by the comedy community. Of cour-, Jake, it's, it's, well, open arms.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  My ex-boyfriend, thank you. My ex-boyfriend was insane and horrible, but the craziest thing about him was that he used to shit in bags. That's right. Not the toilet, literal garbage bags. This motherfucker would put a garbage bag in a small trash can, sit on it and shit. He even, as a joke, threw the bag at me once. The bad part is, I stayed with him for months after that. How do I destroy this attraction to toxic men? Me love.

• 1:11:07Speaker 02

  Me love.

• 1:11:09Speaker 01

  I don't know what to, why would he?

• 1:11:10Speaker 02

  Why would you do that?

• 1:11:12Speaker 01

  But my only reason I don't think that's a lie is because like, how could you come up with that?

• 1:11:16Speaker 02

  Shitting in bags is like, is, to me, doesn't live in kink. It lives in like a, there must be some like practical lifestyle, quote unquote, practical, quote unquote, lifestyle reason.

• 1:11:27Speaker 01

  And he threw the bag and shit at her.

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  That's fucked. I'm sorry.

• 1:11:30Speaker 01

  That's, um, yeah, that's wrong. I would just hope that your next boyfriend isn't like that.

• 1:11:39Speaker 01

  I had the best time with you.

• 1:11:40Speaker 02

  I had the best time with you. I love you so much.

• 1:11:43Speaker 01

  Oh my god. I love you so much. I could talk to you for three hours.

• 1:11:48Speaker 02

  Literally.

• 1:11:49Speaker 01

  Okay, well. Bowen.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  Jake.

• 1:11:53Speaker 01

  What did we learn today?

• 1:11:54Speaker 02

  We learned, we talked about everything.

• 1:11:57Speaker 01

  This felt like a proper catch up.

• 1:11:59Speaker 02

  Um, we learned so much. I learned some, I learned. I learned that, um, New York is good on you.

• 1:12:08Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:12:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:09Speaker 01

  I think so, dude.

• 1:12:10Speaker 02

  I'm really liking this. Not that LA was bad, but I really like.

• 1:12:14Speaker 01

  Do you guys agree?

• 1:12:15Speaker 03

  I think both.

• 1:12:18Speaker 02

  I'm obsessed with Louise.

• 1:12:22Speaker 02

  She, she delivers things in such a perfect amount of gravitas.

• 1:12:27Speaker 03

  That is so nice.

• 1:12:28Speaker 02

  You do.

• 1:12:28Speaker 01

  Do you know one time I wrote in an email? I, this is my, I don't know why.

• 1:12:33Speaker 03

  You love this story.

• 1:12:34Speaker 01

  Because of what?

• 1:12:35Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:12:36Speaker 01

  Someone wrote like, can you be here for this? And I, and I wrote back, oh no, I can't, I will be away.

• 1:12:42Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:12:43Speaker 01

  And Louise texted me, I will be away. Obsessed. And I said, what? Louise is a gay man.

• 1:12:52Speaker 02

  Louise is a gay man.

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  Louise is a gay man.

• 1:12:54Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 1:12:54Speaker 01

  What did you do today on our call? And I called you out for it?

• 1:12:57Speaker 03

  He, so we're going over this campaign and they're showing him a cardboard cutout of himself. And he's like, oh my god, there's gonna be a cardboard cutout. I love that. That's so cool. What, what's the photo? And I text, I texted him, I said, I showed you the cardboard cutout for approval. Do you remember? And he says, oh my god, you guys, Louise just side texted me. Like, I, I, do you remember? In front of like 20 people.

• 1:13:23Speaker 01

  Mind you, that is the second time I've done that in the span of two weeks.

• 1:13:26Speaker 03

  He keeps doing that. I text him on the side like, hey, reminder, like, don't.

• 1:13:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:13:32Speaker 01

  I was doing an interview the other day, Louise like was texting me like stuff and I said, Louise, stop texting me. And then I texted her today. I said, you're not safe when you side text me in these situations.

• 1:13:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:13:43Speaker 03

  Well, the cutout thing, he was like, it made it seem like I lied that he had approved it.

• 1:13:49Speaker 01

  Oh, I'm sorry.

• 1:13:50Speaker 03

  So I was like, no, he promised. Like, he's had eyes on this.

• 1:13:53Speaker 02

  So then how, how in the future are you going to let him know about something? Like, in a sidebar without potentially having your spot getting?

• 1:14:03Speaker 03

  To be honest, I'm probably just gonna continue doing exactly.

• 1:14:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:07Speaker 01

  Gay man in a woman's body.

• 1:14:09Speaker 02

  Totally. But you need to be better about not saying, oh my God, Louise just texted me.

• 1:14:12Speaker 01

  No, it's funny.

• 1:14:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, he likes it.

• 1:14:15Speaker 01

  I love it. And you know who was on the call who's made it all the better?

• 1:14:18Speaker 02

  Who?

• 1:14:19Speaker 01

  Paul Briganti.

• 1:14:19Speaker 02

  Oh, Paul.

• 1:14:21Speaker 01

  My king of all kings. Bowen, I love you.

• 1:14:26Speaker 02

  I love you.

• 1:14:27Speaker 01

  Thank you for coming on Therapist.

• 1:14:28Speaker 02

  Thank you for having me. This is long.

• 1:14:29Speaker 01

  Make sure to tune into the Culture Awards on?

• 1:14:31Speaker 02

  June 17th on Bravo and Peacock.

• 1:14:34Speaker 01

  And it is, you will not regret it. It is the greatest gift we have gotten in a while. It is amazing.

• 1:14:41Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  You need to know how amazing it is.

• 1:14:43Speaker 02

  Thank you. Enjoy Vegas.

• 1:14:46Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:14:46Speaker 02

  Bye, pussies.

• 1:15:04Speaker 04

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