Session 123: Paul Rudd

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  I really feel like we've been friends for a really long time. A lot of, everyone's, all your besties have done it.

• 0:17Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

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  And I've been like waiting to do it.

• 0:20Speaker 01

  I'm so.

• 0:22Speaker 00

  I've been fully waiting to do it.

• 0:23Speaker 01

  And you know what, it makes me feel really good that you feel that way because I sometimes don't view this as like something desirable.

• 0:33Speaker 00

  Really?

• 0:33Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes I feel that way.

• 0:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, I feel like you're very self-deprecating and we have this conversation a lot, but like, which camera should I talk to? Jake is him. And I always say that, and I always say that, and, and then we go out and I'm like, damn, you're really him.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  You make, there's, you make me feel so good about myself. And I hope I can, I hope I can, I hope that you feel that way when I gas you up.

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  I've felt that way once really strongly with you and I think about it a lot.

• 1:03Speaker 01

  Okay, really?

• 1:04Speaker 00

  It was the first time that you like genuinely lended yourself to me and your advice to me. And it was like November last year when I was in New York for a long time, shooting that short.

• 1:13Speaker 01

  I remember.

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  And I was like.

• 1:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, I locked the fuck in.

• 1:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, like, there was one call where you locked in and he, he looked, this is so rare, Manny knows this is rare. He locked in, he looked in the camera and he sat there for 30 minutes and he gave me straight up advice on like how you will feel long-term if you act on this now, blah, blah, blah, blah. Like, he went on and on and was like, like, you were loaning your, like, your advice to me. And you just, honestly, you hadn't done that before.

• 1:45Speaker 00

  Maybe I was just like, damn, he's being a friend.

• 1:47Speaker 01

  Right, bare minimum.

• 1:48Speaker 00

  No, no, you're, you're, you're the best friend.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Well, first, we need to congratulate Charlie because.

• 1:56Speaker 00

  On what?

• 1:57Speaker 01

  You just, Charlie just walked the Dior Cruise Show.

• 2:01Speaker 00

  Thanks, guys. I thought you were about to like surprise me or something. Thanks, Lulu.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  No, and that's your number one fan right there.

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  Well, I'm Louise's number one fan and I have been since day one.

• 2:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Like, I've been locked in and I, I've been a supporter of Louise for a long, long time.

• 2:17Speaker 01

  Louise, do you hear that?

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  It was a gag. And I felt so, it was so, I kept saying to everyone around me, like, I know him, that's my best friend. I just thought you did such a wonderful job. It was so incredible.

• 2:29Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 2:30Speaker 01

  And I got to say to everyone, like, that's my best friend.

• 2:32Speaker 00

  You know what? That night, you were also locked into being a best friend.

• 2:37Speaker 01

  Because I was so proud of you.

• 2:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was also like a really, just a cool experience and those people like, we don't have to get into it.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:46Speaker 00

  They're artists. Like, it was, it was very inspiring.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  We need to talk about how you have not seen Off Campus yet.

• 2:54Speaker 00

  No, not a single, not a minute.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  But that's something that you would be so locked in for, because like, you die for this much.

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  I know, you know, I have a, well, I don't really want to say it. I'll say it. I struggle with TV generally, just because.

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  You're a movie person.

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  I'm, I, like, I literally have seen every movie and I've, and I love, love, I'm, I'm very passionate about film.

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  Very.

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  And so I struggle with TV because you really have to loan yourself. And you have to be like, I'm not going to give you two hours. I'm going to give you like, sort of a piece of my mind and like, my life.

• 3:25Speaker 01

  Didn't you How to Get Away with Murder, was that not you?

• 3:28Speaker 00

  Oh no, I've done, I'm three rewatches, like.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  Of How to Get Away with Murder?

• 3:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like a really pivotal show to me. Viola Davis is like.

• 3:35Speaker 01

  No, she's a vision.

• 3:36Speaker 00

  She's, she's like, on my list of, she's on my Mount Rushmore. Like, she is one of the, she's the great, if not one of the greats.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  No, she is one of the greats.

• 3:47Speaker 00

  Like, yeah, she's, she's, I'm, I'm really shook by her. And so that's the reason I started watching that show. And then.

• 3:55Speaker 01

  Does it get crazy? Cause like.

• 3:57Speaker 00

  I could, I, that show I go feral for.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  What season?

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  You guys seen that?

• 4:02Speaker 01

  Does it get better past season one?

• 4:04Speaker 00

  Yes.

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  Oh my god. Cut.

• 4:20Speaker 00

  Let's, no, let's change topic because not one of these things is going to make the fucking show.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think this could be funny.

• 4:26Speaker 00

  Funny one-liners.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  You are probably the funniest person I know.

• 4:31Speaker 00

  Are you kidding?

• 4:33Speaker 01

  Well.

• 4:34Speaker 00

  Is that true?

• 4:35Speaker 01

  I think one of them, like, you make me laugh really hard.

• 4:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, we do. You know what? It's the we of it all. Like, it's the, there's a push and pull. And I'm like, one of us is doing one, and the other is doing the other.

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  One of us is going.

• 4:46Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's like, I, yeah. And then, and it's also like, it's also like a tug of war. It's like, you give me something, and then I like yank it.

• 4:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  And make it really funny. And then you fucking, like, are hauling it back as well. So the joke never ends with us, and it's like, then we'll bring it up a month later, and like, we have a good thing going.

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  Do you think we're discovering what friendship is for the first time?

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  You for sure discovered it on that FaceTime in November.

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  That's when you, that's, like, I think you realized in that moment what a friend was.

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  Yeah.

• 5:19Speaker 00

  No, I mean, you've always been a good friend, but what I mean is, like, in that moment, I think I maybe was like, oh shit, he's like, he's here with me.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  I have feelings, and I care. I have selfish tendencies.

• 5:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have selfish tendencies, and also, like, like, I'm also guilty of this. It's like, sometimes, it just really does feel like the world is revolving around you because you're you. And like, that's, I don't think that people should blame themselves for that unless they act upon it and start being like, really openly selfish, and start demanding things of people that don't owe them anything.

• 5:55Speaker 00

  And you've only done that, like, four or five times?

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  With me?

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  Six, seven?

• 6:07Speaker 01

  You're her.

• 6:08Speaker 00

  Do you remember Six Seven at the restaurant in Vegas?

• 6:11Speaker 01

  Wait, what happened again?

• 6:13Speaker 00

  It was like, he just, like, he said the fish could feed Six Seven.

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  You guys, like, I am holding on to Six Seven. I think it's funny. I'm, I think it's, like, I'm locked into that.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  It is pretty funny.

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  Like, I think it's great. I don't know why we love it, and I'm loving it.

• 6:34Speaker 00

  And I think it's our sort of like, our generations, like, I'm about to be a millennial for loving six, seven so much.

• 6:41Speaker 01

  Right, right, right. But I think the thing about six, seven.

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  It's not cute that I'm so like.

• 6:45Speaker 01

  But I think the thing about six, seven is that it made no sense. It made no sense. And now, when it comes up, it's like, well, six, seven. It can serve six to seven people.

• 6:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, like it's just like a funny.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  It's a joke that walks in on itself.

• 6:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it's just like.

• 6:59Speaker 01

  Was that described correctly?

• 7:00Speaker 00

  Sure. I don't really know what that meant.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Like, that's what I, it's like a joke. It's just right there.

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  It's just right there and you don't have to do anything like, are there any, did our generation have a joke like that? I don't think so. Like, just a random.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  Maybe like a.

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  Jeff.

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  Like nine plus 10, 21. That was big.

• 7:19Speaker 00

  Oh, so I, unfortunately, that wasn't part of my universe, but I'm actually, I'm interested to hear a little bit more about it.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  I think six, seven is funny. Six, seven is funny just because like, I think you're just funny.

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  Me?

• 7:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, like, six, seven jokes aren't funny to me, but the way you just described that was funny because you're funny.

• 7:41Speaker 00

  Well, it's just, for me, it's like the way it lands every time. It's like if somebody that I don't really know, like, hears six, seven and somebody's talking and they hear six, seven and they go six, seven, I'm not, I'm not even batting an eye, I'm not looking over.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  Right.

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  But it's like when it's, there's a camaraderie about it and like, when you're with your friends and like, there's a vibe, like, six, seven is funny.

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  It's a vibe.

• 8:02Speaker 00

  What are you gonna eat?

• 8:03Speaker 01

  For dinner?

• 8:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:05Speaker 01

  I wanted to have dinner together. And I didn't know.

• 8:11Speaker 01

  And I know you're moving.

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  I'm in the middle of moving and I actually, I'm gonna say what I'm therapist about, even though this is not a full episode. I'm pissed at Jake at the moment because.

• 8:24Speaker 01

  I'm not like.

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  He is not understanding that I'm moving and you're being very selfish.

• 8:29Speaker 01

  I know.

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  He's demanding a lot of someone who's, gets very unstable in between homes. Because the house is a real physical thing. The home is an idea that you build and create. And right now, I don't have that idea around me and within me. And I need my home to like, really be there mentally.

• 8:49Speaker 01

  So when is it gonna be done?

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  And I'm in the middle of moving.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  So when is it gonna be done?

• 8:52Speaker 00

  I'm, the truck comes on Wednesday morning. And the truck leaves on Wednesday night.

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  I keep forgetting this is just an intro.

• 9:06Speaker 01

  I know. Well, now it's making me think. I think we need to do a real.

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  I'm like.

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  Should we episode?

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  Am I even gonna be on Netflix?

• 9:15Speaker 00

  Is this, should this go on my IMDB?

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Before we go, because what are you doing for the rest of the day? Do you want me to accompany your move at all? Or would that be like?

• 9:25Speaker 00

  Oh, that would be hell. Imagine moving with, imagine moving with Jake accompanying.

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  It's like, that is nightmare fuel.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  Let's talk about one more thing before you leave.

• 9:38Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 9:39Speaker 01

  Who's the clown Audrey Hobart?

• 9:41Speaker 00

  It's one of the best albums of all time.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Manny?

• 9:44Speaker 00

  To me, it's one of the most formative.

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  Yeah.

• 9:47Speaker 00

  Listening to that for the first time was like,

• 9:52Speaker 00

  like being 13 in my, I feel like everyone says this, but like really I felt to my core like it was like I was a girl in Connecticut in her bedroom, in her like perfect suburban house. With posters on her wall, with like someone that she was Snapchatting.

• 10:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's how I felt too, actually. And it's like,

• 10:14Speaker 01

  it's like, she is singing in a really catchy tune, all these very, actually like physically uncomfortable feelings. Like feeling uncomfortable in your body. She's like making a pop song about like feeling uncomfortable in your own skin.

• 10:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, and it was like bumping.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, like you're bumping hard.

• 10:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:32Speaker 01

  And it's like Sex and the City. Oh, my God.

• 10:36Speaker 00

  Yes. And it was like, there was such a shamelessness to that album, like what you were saying. That was like, oh, my God, I've like been waiting for something this shameless and this vulnerable without it being vulnerable and like moving, which is more like Ryan Beatty and Lizzie McAlpine territory where it's like that, those songs like really. I feel them deeply and like viscerally, but her one, it was like, oh my God, I'm not embarrassed to be saying these kind of embarrassing things about.

• 11:02Speaker 01

  Right.

• 11:02Speaker 00

  How I feel.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  Thirst trap?

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  I mean, the best one on that album is Silver Jubilee and you're not gonna agree.

• 11:08Speaker 01

  No, that's Brett's favorite.

• 11:09Speaker 00

  Really?

• 11:10Speaker 01

  That's Brett, I mean.

• 11:11Speaker 00

  It's just so like goofy. I just say a home cut.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  Baby, for the sake of the story, we'll take it back to the course.

• 11:21Speaker 00

  I didn't, I didn't go to her show. I didn't go to any of it.

• 11:25Speaker 01

  She's performing in Edinburgh with Lord in August. Are you interested?

• 11:28Speaker 00

  I'll tell you what festival I'm interested in. Let me know in the comments. There are no comments.

• 11:32Speaker 01

  On Spotify, there is.

• 11:34Speaker 00

  Okay, on Spotify, there are comments. I'm interested in Lollapalooza.

• 11:38Speaker 01

  Yeah, me too.

• 11:39Speaker 00

  Have you been?

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Yes, it's amazing.

• 11:42Speaker 00

  Oh, you've been?

• 11:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, and you know what? I'm gonna be in town.

• 11:46Speaker 00

  It's, town is Chicago, you fucking idiot.

• 11:48Speaker 01

  Yes, I am.

• 11:49Speaker 03

  You're going to Lollapalooza?

• 11:51Speaker 01

  I can, can't I?

• 11:52Speaker 00

  No, you said, I'm gonna be in town. Why are you gonna be in town in Chicago?

• 11:57Speaker 01

  It's like August 1st.

• 11:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, but why are you saying, I'm gonna be in town? In town is Chicago.

• 12:02Speaker 01

  I mean, like in the States.

• 12:03Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. That's not how you do that. That's not how you say that.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  Right. Charlie, if there's one thing Charlie loves, it's a live show.

• 12:11Speaker 00

  I like a live show. I like a Broadway show. I like going to the movie theater, which I consider a live show.

• 12:18Speaker 01

  Oh, I would love to go to the movies tonight.

• 12:21Speaker 00

  Oh, that would be good.

• 12:23Speaker 02

  Obsession.

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  Did you love?

• 12:25Speaker 01

  I haven't seen it. Have you seen it?

• 12:27Speaker 02

  Phenomenal.

• 12:28Speaker 01

  I think we should go to IPEC and see it.

• 12:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, everyone's talking about it. What do you guys think?

• 12:35Speaker 00

  Louise, I'm good at this.

• 12:37Speaker 01

  You're like, you're exceptional at it. Like you'll.

• 12:39Speaker 00

  Oh my God, I have so much more to say. Can we do another episode?

• 12:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, do you wanna do?

• 12:44Speaker 00

  No, stop.

• 12:44Speaker 01

  I think so too.

• 12:46Speaker 00

  But I can't sell. Like, I'm not selling.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  Doesn't matter. That's not what the full episodes are about.

• 12:51Speaker 00

  Really?

• 12:51Speaker 01

  It's about like having fun with your friends. That's where this podcast started from.

• 12:55Speaker 00

  I don't think I'm worthy. Let's see how this performs.

• 12:57Speaker 01

  Okay. So did you have fun on your first therapist experience?

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  Yeah, I had a lot of fun. It was like, it was, you know what? It was short. And sweet. Also, I want to say really quickly, just this is something I was thinking about on my way over here. You can put this in or not put it in. I just want to claim this idea as mine because I can't figure out what platform is an appropriate place to claim this, but I actually think therapist is a really good place. I just don't want somebody to steal it because I have been vocalizing it a lot, especially when I'm like drinking or whatever. So I just want to really claim this right here and now. My, this is my idea for the movie and no one else's. And I came up with this five years ago.

• 13:35Speaker 01

  What movie?

• 13:37Speaker 00

  Night at the Museum, Madame Tussauds. And I just need to get in front of Ben Stiller. I'm being dead serious about this. I'm talking to the camera.

• 13:45Speaker 01

  That's brilliant. That's brilliant.

• 13:47Speaker 00

  It's brilliant. And I've had the idea for like five years and I've written a treatment for it. Bible's in the works. Visually, I have no idea what I wanted to look like, but it's honestly up to Ben Stiller. I need to put this in front of Ben Stiller. I think this movie is like seriously a really fucking good idea and you could get everyone in on it. You could get everyone in on it and it would be the ultimate gag and the ultimate laugh. And I don't think it's a family movie. I think we get them in the Hall of Presidents and there's some like funny political shit too. I think it's a brilliant idea. I'm really interested in making it.

• 14:22Speaker 00

  I, I want to claim that.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  We're keeping that in.

• 14:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think it needs to be made.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  I think that needs to be, I think that's something we need.

• 14:28Speaker 00

  I, I think it's something we, we would, we would die for it.

• 14:31Speaker 01

  Are you actually interested in this?

• 14:33Speaker 00

  Yes, I've written a treatment for it, but I just need Ben Stiller. I need to, I need to, I don't want to go through anyone except I want to speak directly to him. So I'm, I'm going to find him.

• 14:43Speaker 01

  Well.

• 14:45Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 14:48Speaker 01

  This is just Ben.

• 14:50Speaker 00

  So fun.

• 14:51Speaker 01

  So fun.

• 14:51Speaker 00

  So fun. You know what? Thank you.

• 14:56Speaker 00

  This was really fun.

• 14:56Speaker 01

  And on tonight's episode, we have. Paul Rudd.

• 15:04Speaker 01

  Do you do podcasts often?

• 15:06Speaker 04

  I've done a few, but I don't do a bunch. I've done Conan's and Amy Poehler.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  Oh, well, she's just like the Mecca podcast.

• 15:14Speaker 04

  Totally. Who else?

• 15:16Speaker 01

  She wanna GG for it.

• 15:17Speaker 04

  I know.

• 15:18Speaker 01

  You guys have caught me on such a good day.

• 15:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, why's that?

• 15:20Speaker 01

  Cause I'm happy.

• 15:22Speaker 04

  Yeah?

• 15:22Speaker 01

  Cause you're here.

• 15:25Speaker 04

  It's a, it's a Sunday. You're so, you're, people don't know when the day of the week, what day of the week it is.

• 15:30Speaker 01

  Your eyes are very beautiful.

• 15:32Speaker 04

  Oh, thanks, Jake.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  Wow, have you guys ever noticed this?

• 15:36Speaker 04

  Well, I'm not.

• 15:36Speaker 01

  Answer.

• 15:39Speaker 01

  Thank you, Manny. Manny's my girl.

• 15:42Speaker 04

  It's the, it's the light is really what it is.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Oh, which you've complimented.

• 15:45Speaker 04

  Giant, it's a giant window.

• 15:46Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 15:46Speaker 04

  I can't see it, but if they could see what we could see right now, they'd be like, wow, cool view.

• 15:50Speaker 01

  They'd say, New York.

• 15:52Speaker 04

  Right.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. You're from New Jersey?

• 15:55Speaker 04

  I am.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  North, south or central?

• 15:57Speaker 04

  I'm from literally like, as you cross the George Washington Bridge, right there.

• 16:01Speaker 01

  You know, I lived over the George Washington Bridge. That's where I grew up, in Washington Heights.

• 16:04Speaker 04

  Oh, so I lived in Palisades Park.

• 16:07Speaker 01

  Okay, so do you call it a turkey ham or a?

• 16:11Speaker 04

  Or pork roll?

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, what is it? Turkey ham? A Taylor ham?

• 16:13Speaker 04

  Or Taylor ham. I don't know, I don't know any of this stuff. The only reason that I even know a little bit of that is because of you and Nick Jonas talking about it.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, I forgot we spoke about that.

• 16:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, and I watched, I watched that.

• 16:25Speaker 01

  I need to speak about more things, I think.

• 16:28Speaker 04

  No, no, this is a topic that I think needs, that warrants discussion, but I don't really know, maybe you could explain what.

• 16:35Speaker 01

  You didn't grow up eating those?

• 16:36Speaker 04

  No, because I lived in New Jersey till I was about five and a half, and then I moved, I moved to a few different places, but I kind of, around in high school and I grew up in Kansas City. That's really where I kind of considered.

• 16:47Speaker 01

  On the St. Louis side or the Missouri side?

• 16:52Speaker 04

  Well, Missouri is, St. Louis is the, on the far end of Missouri, and Kansas City is like kind of on the opposite end. But there's like Kansas and Missouri, and I was on the Kansas side.

• 17:02Speaker 01

  You guys just fucking played in my face. Why would you tell me that it's the Missouri side when I said St. Louis first?

• 17:07Speaker 04

  No, by the way, the Missouri side is really where everyone, I lived, I, I lived minutes away from Missouri. There's a road called.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  So you lived on the Kansas side, though?

• 17:15Speaker 04

  I lived on the Kansas side. People say, oh, if, they think it's, sometimes think it's two cities. Is it Kansas City, Kansas, or Kansas City, Missouri? It's one city. But it just kind of, it covers both, you know, sides of the border. And there's a street called State Line Road. And when you're on one side of the street, you're in Kansas. And when you cross the street, you're in Missouri. Isn't that fascinating?

• 17:33Speaker 01

  You like geography?

• 17:34Speaker 04

  I do.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Oh, love that. So did you ever go to Arthur's Barbecue?

• 17:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, sure.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  Which barbecue place? I think we went to Arthur's.

• 17:43Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 17:43Speaker 01

  Delightful.

• 17:44Speaker 04

  There's a lot. You know, Kansas City really prides itself on its barbecue.

• 17:47Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 17:48Speaker 04

  There's a...

• 17:49Speaker 01

  I did not feel good after, though.

• 17:50Speaker 04

  No, it kind of, it kind of, it's like you kind of need to set aside a day if you're gonna really eat barbecue, because you feel like you need to sleep right after.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  I just like the sausage links.

• 18:01Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  What do you like when you get barbecue?

• 18:04Speaker 04

  Um, it really depends on where you go.

• 18:08Speaker 01

  Arthur's?

• 18:09Speaker 04

  I don't know. I would probably get, I would probably get Bernan's, or, uh, or I like, um, I like ribs, and I like pulled pork, too.

• 18:19Speaker 01

  I hate pulled pork.

• 18:21Speaker 04

  Do you?

• 18:21Speaker 01

  I hate when it's pulled. I hate pulled chicken. I hate pulled pork. I hate all of that. I hate it.

• 18:27Speaker 04

  I think that it was kind of my entry into barbecue.

• 18:30Speaker 01

  Pulled pork?

• 18:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, cuz I, it, it, at first, when I lived there as a kid, I didn't even eat barbecue.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Is this why you don't age?

• 18:37Speaker 04

  Cuz I didn't eat barbecue as a child.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  Or Taylor ham?

• 18:40Speaker 04

  Taylor ham. I'd stick away. I'd stay away.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  Are you vegan?

• 18:43Speaker 04

  No.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  So why don't you age?

• 18:45Speaker 04

  But I do.

• 18:46Speaker 01

  You don't.

• 18:47Speaker 04

  Oh, you're kind for saying, but I really do.

• 18:50Speaker 01

  You don't? Do you have Botox?

• 18:53Speaker 04

  No.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  Shut the fuck up.

• 18:56Speaker 04

  Look at my face, do you see?

• 18:58Speaker 01

  You have no creases. You have no creases, nothing. Okay, well, there, if you do that, I have like a full...

• 19:06Speaker 01

  It's pretty bad.

• 19:07Speaker 04

  Well, no, you're like, you're like, you're going like this.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's more than when you go like this.

• 19:14Speaker 04

  It is like, kind of, brip.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:19Speaker 01

  Wait, so, you know, I found out I have high blood pressure today.

• 19:22Speaker 04

  Really?

• 19:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:23Speaker 04

  So what happens now?

• 19:26Speaker 01

  Right?

• 19:28Speaker 04

  Do you have to, like, do you just change all to your diet? Do you have to take medicine or what?

• 19:33Speaker 01

  It's funny, because I haven't been drinking for a week. And, um, so I'm like, wait, that doesn't make sense. I haven't drank in a week. I've been working out every day.

• 19:43Speaker 04

  No.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  I, so I'm like freaking the fuck out now that I have high blood pressure. What does that mean? Do you have high blood pressure?

• 19:49Speaker 04

  I don't think so.

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 19:52Speaker 04

  But I think it means, uh, you know. What do I know? I don't know what it means. But I think that you're, you're probably okay. You know, you'll, if you're continuing to exercise and you're eating all right, it'll take care of itself. You're, you're a young man.

• 20:07Speaker 04

  Unlike me.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  How old do you think I am?

• 20:10Speaker 04

  By the way, you're 26.

• 20:12Speaker 01

  You knew that?

• 20:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  You having fun?

• 20:16Speaker 04

  I'm having the time of my life.

• 20:17Speaker 01

  What did you expect walking in?

• 20:19Speaker 04

  This.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, great. And your daughter is here?

• 20:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Shout out.

• 20:25Speaker 04

  Darby and Charlotte.

• 20:26Speaker 01

  How you guys? Oh, you play volleyball?

• 20:29Speaker 05

  I used to. I can't anymore.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  Why?

• 20:32Speaker 05

  I got too many concussions.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  Okay. Are you okay?

• 20:36Speaker 05

  I'm fine now.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  Okay, cool.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  Well, Paul, what are you therapists about today?

• 20:41Speaker 04

  I tell you, hey Darby, remember? This is something I thought of that both of us were like, oh.

• 20:49Speaker 04

  When we're in somewhat enclosed spaces where there are people around and somebody is talking loudly on their phone? As if no one is around and they're treating a public space like it's their living room.

• 21:01Speaker 01

  I do that.

• 21:02Speaker 04

  Do you? You do, really?

• 21:04Speaker 01

  Frequently.

• 21:05Speaker 04

  Really?

• 21:06Speaker 01

  In nail salon, hello? Like, I'm, I can't help it. I didn't know it was rude to take a phone call at a restaurant.

• 21:14Speaker 04

  I don't, I think maybe, well, and also, you know, you're...

• 21:18Speaker 01

  It's horrible, actually. You're making me rethink.

• 21:20Speaker 04

  No, I, I, well, now I feel bad. I feel like I've put you on the spot.

• 21:24Speaker 01

  You are such a good person.

• 21:26Speaker 04

  You know what? It wasn't, it wasn't, it, no, it's...

• 21:31Speaker 01

  It's bad, it's really bad. I also stand up when airplanes land.

• 21:35Speaker 04

  Oh, but that's all right.

• 21:36Speaker 01

  You think?

• 21:37Speaker 04

  I do.

• 21:37Speaker 01

  Do you? You do, don't you?

• 21:41Speaker 04

  Well, sometimes I'll be like, oh, we haven't come to a complete stop.

• 21:46Speaker 01

  Oh, I'll never get up until we stop. You get up before you stop?

• 21:50Speaker 04

  No, well, I try not to, no. I try, I think, well, you'll get up, what do you, wouldn't it if you stop?

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Beep.

• 21:56Speaker 04

  Oh, you get up, you've stopped, but they haven't. I mean, come on.

• 22:00Speaker 01

  I think it's fine.

• 22:01Speaker 04

  At what point, I think it's all right, too.

• 22:02Speaker 01

  Do you like to travel?

• 22:03Speaker 04

  When they say, put the, you know, your seat up and your tray table up and put your computer away and turn your phone on airplane mode, I think all of that is nonsense.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  You think the airplane mode thing is nonsense?

• 22:15Speaker 04

  I know it's nonsense.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  I only put it on airplane mode because it's not going to work either way, so I might as well save the battery.

• 22:19Speaker 04

  Well, I think that, well, that's smart, but I think that there's something to do, that it can with a frequency, if too many people are off airplane mode to the pilot and they're talking to

• 22:29Speaker 01

  Oh, they can't hear.

• 22:30Speaker 04

  That occasionally it might be an annoyance in their headset. I think I read an article on it one time, but...

• 22:36Speaker 01

  You read a lot?

• 22:38Speaker 04

  I mean, a fair amount, but not really.

• 22:40Speaker 01

  I don't read either.

• 22:43Speaker 04

  What, no?

• 22:44Speaker 01

  What?

• 22:44Speaker 04

  What?

• 22:45Speaker 01

  What?

• 22:45Speaker 04

  You don't read at all?

• 22:46Speaker 01

  No.

• 22:47Speaker 04

  What, like articles?

• 22:48Speaker 01

  Mm-mm.

• 22:49Speaker 04

  Oh, really? That's...

• 22:51Speaker 01

  I read, mm, I'm trying to think of the last article I read.

• 22:54Speaker 04

  I do read articles. I read the paper.

• 22:57Speaker 01

  No.

• 22:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  Every morning?

• 22:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 22:59Speaker 01

  Like you get the paper and read it, physically?

• 23:01Speaker 04

  I don't get it anymore. Now I read it on my phone. But I used to. I was one of those last, kind of like the last, I like having a paper, I like separating the sections.

• 23:13Speaker 01

  Oh! What's your favorite column?

• 23:16Speaker 04

  Every day I'll do the crossword puzzle, and I like the puzzles, I like the games section.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  Do you play Wordle?

• 23:23Speaker 04

  I do play, I used to play Wordle every day, but my wife plays Wordle every day, and because we have the same thing, I can't reset it.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  So do you know the word today?

• 23:36Speaker 04

  No.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  Do you want to play the Wordle right now?

• 23:39Speaker 04

  Sure. My wife will do the Wordle, and then I'll do Strands. So we have an unspoken thing, it just happened, where we, it's like, all right, that's what, she'll do Connections, and then I'll do Sports Connections.

• 23:51Speaker 01

  Oh, you like sports?

• 23:53Speaker 04

  I do.

• 23:54Speaker 01

  Eagles?

• 23:55Speaker 04

  No.

• 23:56Speaker 01

  Okay. What's our first word?

• 23:59Speaker 04

  Shane.

• 24:01Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  I don't know if that's a word, though.

• 24:04Speaker 04

  It's not really.

• 24:06Speaker 01

  Not word in list.

• 24:07Speaker 04

  Okay. Well, then do shake.

• 24:09Speaker 01

  Shake. Nothing.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  Nothing.

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 24:14Speaker 04

  How about fruit?

• 24:16Speaker 01

  Fruit? Fruit. Oh, my God. You're smart. Okay, so we have a yellow for the F and a yellow for the U.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  Oh, it's game time for you.

• 24:28Speaker 04

  By the way, this is gonna take up. Uh, you'll speed this up in the edit.

• 24:35Speaker 01

  Okay, let's maybe start with W.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  I've actually, I don't know if we're just getting stage fright, or I usually figure it out way faster.

• 24:46Speaker 04

  I think maybe a little bit of that, right?

• 24:48Speaker 01

  Puffy.

• 24:49Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 24:54Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 24:56Speaker 04

  Puffy.

• 24:56Speaker 01

  I did see a double letter, which is why I knew.

• 24:58Speaker 04

  Right, puffy.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Are you a party guy?

• 25:00Speaker 04

  Not really, no.

• 25:01Speaker 01

  No? No, big drinker, nothing?

• 25:03Speaker 04

  No. No. I, um... You know, something, it's just happened where now, like, the idea of getting into bed at about 8:00 PM and, uh, not, like, listen, I love it. Starting the day early. It's, like, I'm, this is, it's a bane of my daughter's existence where she says she feels like she's living with, you know, like, the cast of Cocoon. It's just so, I have no... I live such a old person's life.

• 25:34Speaker 01

  Have you always been that way?

• 25:35Speaker 04

  No.

• 25:36Speaker 01

  Did you used to, like, go out?

• 25:37Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  How were your twenties?

• 25:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, we'd go out quite a bit. I lived here, so it was fun.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  You had a fun time?

• 25:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:45Speaker 01

  When did, how old were you when you did Clueless?

• 25:47Speaker 04

  Twenty-three, twenty-four, twenty-four, I think.

• 25:51Speaker 01

  Wow! And then, how, okay, so how did you get, like, was that, like, was that one of your first roles?

• 25:56Speaker 04

  Yeah. It was. It was the second movie that I ever did, but it was the first one that ever came out.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  Okay, and so how did you, what was the audition process like?

• 26:05Speaker 04

  I had graduated from acting school.

• 26:09Speaker 01

  NYU?

• 26:10Speaker 04

  Uh, no, the, it was called the American Academy of Dramatic Arts.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:13Speaker 04

  And I had gotten an agent and I was, I'd read some scripts that were, you know, they would send scripts. I'd try and get auditions here and there. And then this movie was getting cast. They were making this movie and there were a lot of parts for young, like, people and kids and stuff. And so I read the script and um, was like, oh, this is really like, I liked it. I thought it was smart and I thought it was kind of interesting. And I went in for the audition, but I didn't know. I was going in to audition for the role that I actually wound up playing. But when I went in, I asked if I could audition for a bunch of the roles.

• 26:52Speaker 01

  What other roles? I haven't seen the movie in a minute.

• 26:56Speaker 04

  So I, I liked.

• 26:59Speaker 01

  You're the stepbrother.

• 26:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, I auditioned for um, I wanted to audition for Christian. And I, I wanted to audition for Murray, but I didn't realize that that was African American.

• 27:16Speaker 04

  Elton, which was Sisto's part, Jeremy Sisto. And, and then they said, well, would you read for Josh?

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Did you have any idea how big the movie would be?

• 27:25Speaker 04

  No, no, not at all. I mean, the, the whole thing was so new to me. Auditioning was new. I hadn't ever really, I mean, been in a movie, I'd been in one, but uh, I, I don't even know that if I had done it by the time I had auditioned for Clueless. I mean, I might've done the first movie after audition for Clueless. I don't quite remember. But it was all new and you could never predict how these things are going to turn out. I think there was something kind of exciting. During the table read that we had of it where afterward, all of us, the whole cast, kind of sitting around and thought, you know, we grew up with those John Hughes movies and

• 28:08Speaker 04

  those movies were really important to our generation. Wouldn't it be cool to be in a movie that for a generation that this is a movie that they kind of will be able to quote later on and was important to them. But you never really think that will actually happen. And then it kind of happened.

• 28:22Speaker 01

  Did it, was it like a slow burn after or did it just, everything explode and now you're back?

• 28:26Speaker 04

  No, it was a bit of a slower burn.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 28:29Speaker 04

  It, you know, I think with cable and DVDs and all of that, it was successful when it came out, but it wasn't a smash. And I think just over time, it, it, it just kind of hung on.

• 28:42Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 28:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 28:44Speaker 01

  I don't know why I thought it was like a heated rivalry moment for you.

• 28:47Speaker 04

  No, it wasn't. I never, you know, it, a lot of the things, it's funny, things that I've been involved with had a bit of a slower burn that have lasted. Like Anchorman was an, is an example of one that came out and it did okay. But it wasn't until it was out of movie theaters and, and playing on cable that it started to kind of pick up. It had been out for a year already.

• 29:16Speaker 01

  Do you miss cable?

• 29:17Speaker 04

  Well, see, it's so, it was such a different time because there was no streaming, there's no anything. I mean, I do miss being able to just kind of turn on a television and flip around. Like now it's just, there's-

• 29:30Speaker 01

  But you can flip around in a different way now.

• 29:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, but I just don't, I don't, I don't ever, I now I just scroll through everything and I don't pick anything.

• 29:36Speaker 01

  You know what I really love streaming for? It allowed me to watch every Marvel movie ever.

• 29:41Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, you can do it in order. That's kind of, it's convenient.

• 29:44Speaker 01

  Batman.

• 29:44Speaker 04

  Do you, so did you, do you, you miss cable? Do you miss cable at all? Or do you like the streaming?

• 29:51Speaker 01

  I miss the runs that they would have. Like when I was a kid and I was home, like I would put on Oxygen and I would watch, like they would do like a Bad Girls Club marathon or an America's Next Top Model marathon. And I would just sit there and I would watch. You guys probably don't even know what I'm talking about. And I would just sit there and I would watch like the whole season in one day.

• 30:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  It was a different form of bingeing.

• 30:11Speaker 04

  It was like a marathon of something, yeah.

• 30:13Speaker 01

  It was called a mar- yeah, it was a TV marathon.

• 30:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  But yeah, I do miss that, but now it's nice that I can just pick what I want to watch. Like I'm watching Casino for the first time.

• 30:21Speaker 04

  Oh, the movie Casino?

• 30:22Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:23Speaker 04

  What do you think?

• 30:24Speaker 01

  Well, it's taken me now three times to get through it. So, and it's, it's not to any fault of anyone in it. Clearly it's an all-star cast and director.

• 30:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I've just, I'm like, okay, I need to understand. It's a lot of exposition, it's a lot of talking, I don't really know what's going on. It's like the seventies, I don't understand any of the terms, I don't understand what the fuck is going on.

• 30:46Speaker 04

  But how, how many times have you tried to watch it?

• 30:49Speaker 01

  Twice. I'm on my third now.

• 30:51Speaker 04

  Right.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  In two days, granted.

• 30:54Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 30:54Speaker 01

  But I was high last night, I'm sorry, I'm like, I was like sitting there like.

• 31:00Speaker 04

  It's a commitment, it's not a short movie.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  No, but you know what I do love that it reminds me a lot of?

• 31:06Speaker 04

  What?

• 31:06Speaker 01

  Goodfellas.

• 31:07Speaker 04

  Great movie.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  Best movie ever.

• 31:09Speaker 04

  Fantastic movie.

• 31:10Speaker 01

  Wait, so tell me about Ant-Man.

• 31:12Speaker 04

  Okay, what do you want to know?

• 31:13Speaker 01

  You wrote the script, I didn't know that.

• 31:15Speaker 04

  Well, it, it was originally written by Edgar Wright. Edgar Wright was the director that brought me on to it. And Edgar Wright, he did a movie called Shaun of the Dead and Hot Fuzz, he's a great.

• 31:25Speaker 01

  I know Shaun of the Dead.

• 31:26Speaker 04

  He's a great director and he and a guy named Joe Cornish, another great director, wrote this script.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  And then it went through, he eventually, Edgar eventually left the project, it went through different versions and then

• 31:41Speaker 04

  Adam McKay and I came on and wrote a version of it, but we tried to really kind of preserve what Edgar had really done.

• 31:48Speaker 01

  Ant-Man's still alive, right?

• 31:50Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 31:51Speaker 01

  Is he in the new Doomsday?

• 31:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:53Speaker 01

  You're lying. Are you excited? Have you shot it yet?

• 31:55Speaker 04

  Uh, I have, yeah, yeah.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Did you shoot with Louis?

• 31:59Speaker 04

  Um, I did, I actually met him, um, while we were doing it.

• 32:04Speaker 01

  How amazing is he?

• 32:05Speaker 04

  What a great guy.

• 32:06Speaker 01

  The best guy ever.

• 32:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  Ever.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  Okay, please forgive me, because I haven't seen Endgame in a few years, but I've seen it a few times.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:15Speaker 01

  What did Ant-Man do in Endgame again?

• 32:17Speaker 04

  Uh, besides save the universe?

• 32:21Speaker 01

  Okay, so he didn't disappear with the snap?

• 32:23Speaker 04

  No.

• 32:25Speaker 01

  Good snapper. Wow!

• 32:29Speaker 04

  I mean, it's not really that excit- like...

• 32:33Speaker 01

  No, I did-

• 32:33Speaker 04

  That's actually a pretty goo-

• 32:34Speaker 01

  Yes!

• 32:35Speaker 04

  That was a pretty good s- that was a pretty good one.

• 32:38Speaker 01

  Ah, yeah. You do again? What?

• 32:45Speaker 01

  How you do it?

• 32:46Speaker 04

  Can you do the, um...

• 32:55Speaker 01

  I think I'm nervous. I feel like if I was alone, I could do it.

• 33:01Speaker 04

  You're-

• 33:02Speaker 01

  Wait, hold on.

• 33:06Speaker 01

  I can't. How you do it? How you do it?

• 33:12Speaker 01

  What?

• 33:12Speaker 04

  Like a water, like the water, uh...

• 33:18Speaker 04

  Wait, oh wait, there's the... There's, um, no, that's not bad.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  That was good!

• 33:25Speaker 01

  What?

• 33:26Speaker 04

  That's a water drop.

• 33:27Speaker 01

  How- do it again?

• 33:30Speaker 01

  How do you do that? Did you go to improv school?

• 33:34Speaker 04

  I think, was it, there was a guy on Nickelodeon once, because Fred Newman, he used to do all of these kinds of sounds and it was, he used to host like those game shows and stuff. He had, and he, I remember once seeing him on TV and he went, "This is, uh, water, you go..."

• 33:53Speaker 01

  What the fuck?

• 33:53Speaker 04

  And I just remembered it!

• 33:56Speaker 04

  No, we look like idiots.

• 33:59Speaker 01

  How you do it? You just did it one day?

• 34:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, I, yeah.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  You know, when I was a kid, I was so jealous of all my friends that were double-jointed, so I used to take my thumb and go like this. And I would like force myself to be double-jointed. But now I can do it. I feel like I've-

• 34:16Speaker 04

  Can you do the, the thing, I, yeah, the double-jointed thing was always weird.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  I could do this, this.

• 34:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, can you do this where you can bend your finger, like?

• 34:24Speaker 01

  Why are you full of so many tricks and surprises?

• 34:27Speaker 04

  By the way, I think I worked on that. I can't do it that much because there's like those other weirdos that just goes like flat.

• 34:34Speaker 01

  I can't. I feel like I'm trying to be like in Marvel.

• 34:38Speaker 04

  This is what it takes to be in Marvel.

• 34:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  Oh!

• 34:43Speaker 04

  That's a pretty good one.

• 34:44Speaker 01

  Oh, wow. How'd you meet your wife?

• 34:47Speaker 04

  I met my wife actually right after I filmed Clueless.

• 34:50Speaker 01

  So you just lived such a good life?

• 34:53Speaker 04

  I was lucky. I met her at a young age.

• 34:56Speaker 01

  You're like, oh, my career is going well. Oh, wife. Oh, now children.

• 35:01Speaker 04

  It was a good moment in time for me. Yeah, I really lucked out. I really lucked out.

• 35:05Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:06Speaker 01

  Well, tell me about your new movie, Power Ballad. I watched it last night.

• 35:11Speaker 04

  You did?

• 35:12Speaker 01

  The song has been stuck in my head all day.

• 35:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's an earworm, isn't it?

• 35:15Speaker 01

  It's amazing. Have you heard the song? What? You haven't heard the song? Have you seen the movie? You're lying.

• 35:26Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:27Speaker 01

  It just worked to you?

• 35:28Speaker 04

  Not it.

• 35:30Speaker 04

  My daughters, they're not interested in too much.

• 35:32Speaker 01

  Have you seen Clueless?

• 35:34Speaker 04

  It's funny. I never showed it to you. I've never showed my kids any of the stuff, but it was you, it was one time when you were little babysitter showed you. Yeah.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  Ah! Was she, that's weird.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  I know, right? I was like, wait a minute, hold on. She'd never seen anything. You'd never seen anything I'd ever done.

• 35:49Speaker 01

  Your babysitter showed you Clueless without your dad's permission?

• 35:51Speaker 04

  Yeah. I was a little bummed out. I'll be honest. It's like, wait, hold on. You can't do that. She's never seen anything I had done. There was one time I had, I had done this a Reno 911 movie. Kind of like whatever, kind of, it's like, it's my job, but this is my life and I'm with my family and, but my son, when he was really little, turned on the TV and this Reno 911 movie was on television and it was right at a moment when Patton Oswalt is, it's ridiculous. He's shooting me with a machine gun and bloody and he saw me getting murdered. And he was a little kid and it really traumatized him. He didn't like it at all.

• 36:29Speaker 01

  Is he, how old is he now?

• 36:30Speaker 04

  21.

• 36:31Speaker 01

  USC was fun. I went to USC. Yeah.

• 36:34Speaker 04

  Did you like it?

• 36:34Speaker 01

  I loved it. I had the best time of my life.

• 36:38Speaker 04

  Was that the first time you went out to California?

• 36:40Speaker 01

  No, I was born in California.

• 36:41Speaker 04

  Oh, you were?

• 36:41Speaker 01

  And then I grew up in Washington Heights, right over the Washington, George Washington Bridge.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  Right.

• 36:47Speaker 01

  Do you remember, okay, I don't know if you remember this. Do you remember when what's his face? Who is the very large man who looks ill?

• 36:58Speaker 01

  Not Trump. He was like the governor. He was the governor of-

• 37:01Speaker 04

  Chris Christie.

• 37:03Speaker 01

  Yes. And he, he shut down the-

• 37:07Speaker 04

  The bridge.

• 37:07Speaker 01

  The bridge?

• 37:08Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:08Speaker 01

  Do you remember that?

• 37:09Speaker 04

  As a political vendetta.

• 37:10Speaker 01

  Yes! Do you remember? Do you know how hard it was for me to get home from school?

• 37:15Speaker 04

  You got caught up in that?

• 37:16Speaker 01

  Yes!

• 37:16Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 37:17Speaker 01

  Yes, and do you know?

• 37:19Speaker 04

  It actually, it actually-

• 37:20Speaker 01

  Killed someone!

• 37:21Speaker 04

  It destroyed his, it killed his political career.

• 37:23Speaker 01

  Well, you know, it killed someone. Someone, I don't know if this is false news that I'm perpetuating, but I think someone in an ambulance died.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  Cause they couldn't get through-

• 37:31Speaker 01

  Yeah. Mm-hmm.

• 37:32Speaker 04

  Sounds like it's ringing a bell. Yeah.

• 37:34Speaker 01

  Why?

• 37:35Speaker 04

  Cause I think I heard that.

• 37:36Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay. Okay. Thought you were trying to like be like something else. I was like-

• 37:42Speaker 04

  No, I do, I do remember when that happened.

• 37:44Speaker 01

  It was misery.

• 37:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, but he did it to fuck with people.

• 37:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, I do, cause he was doing it to get back at a, at a, somebody who didn't endorse him, I think.

• 37:53Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 37:53Speaker 04

  So like a Democrat, you know?

• 37:54Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm. What are you watching on TV right now?

• 37:57Speaker 04

  I just finished last night, um, Love on the Spectrum.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Okay, I need to tap in. I've heard it's amazing.

• 38:06Speaker 04

  It is.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  I've heard it's just like so amazing.

• 38:09Speaker 04

  It's great. It's great. I don't, you know, everything else that's going on, I'm fairly checked out. My wife watches all the shows, my family like-

• 38:17Speaker 01

  What does she watch?

• 38:19Speaker 04

  She loved Heated Robbery. Rooster she's watching.

• 38:21Speaker 01

  Oh, I haven't seen Rooster! Is it really? Like, laugh out loud?

• 38:25Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 38:26Speaker 01

  Okay. Okay. Have you seen Industry?

• 38:29Speaker 04

  Which one?

• 38:29Speaker 01

  Industry?

• 38:30Speaker 04

  I haven't seen Industry. What's it, have you seen Industry?

• 38:33Speaker 05

  You've started watching it?

• 38:37Speaker 04

  Is it not? Is it not?

• 38:39Speaker 01

  It's the filthiest show on television.

• 38:42Speaker 04

  What's up with all of these filthy shows on TV?

• 38:45Speaker 01

  Well, it's about stock, twenty-something stockbrokers in London. You can imagine where that goes.

• 38:51Speaker 04

  I'm more of a Love on the Spectrum kinda guy.

• 38:54Speaker 01

  You watch Euphoria?

• 38:55Speaker 04

  No.

• 38:56Speaker 01

  I guess you're like, what the fuck? For that?

• 39:01Speaker 04

  Well, it's, you know, I remember when that came out and people said, if you have kids, you should probably watch it. I'm like, oh, God.

• 39:06Speaker 01

  That's not what we were up to, though.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  I don't think it was, but I, well, what do I know? But, um, no, I have no, Dick, I, I'd never sit down and start watching a, a show, really. It just, when I do, I like it, but I don't do it, uh, that often.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  Severance?

• 39:23Speaker 04

  Severance I did watch, yeah. Severance I love.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 39:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:25Speaker 01

  The best.

• 39:26Speaker 04

  It's great.

• 39:26Speaker 01

  When's your birthday?

• 39:27Speaker 04

  April 6.

• 39:29Speaker 01

  Are you in Aries?

• 39:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:32Speaker 01

  What?

• 39:34Speaker 04

  Is that surprising?

• 39:35Speaker 01

  You're so nice.

• 39:36Speaker 04

  Are Aries not normally nice?

• 39:37Speaker 01

  They are nasty, nasty people.

• 39:39Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  Aries are nasty people. What's your rising?

• 39:43Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Your moon?

• 39:46Speaker 04

  I'm not sure. When you- What is, when's your birthday?

• 39:50Speaker 01

  When you wake up in the morning.

• 39:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:52Speaker 01

  What is the first thing that goes through your head?

• 39:55Speaker 04

  Oh, God, here we go. Another day.

• 39:57Speaker 01

  Really?

• 39:58Speaker 04

  First thing that goes through my head when I wake up, um, is, uh, honestly, it's like, get up, make coffee, and just do the puzzle. Keep away from as much news as possible. I want, I want my brain to wake up, and then, um, uh, and then I'll kind of like start reading articles of like, from the news. Ideally, that's what, like, I was, ideally, I will wake up and kind of, I wake up early and I will, I will try and do things that are not kind of, you know, current events and stuff right away.

• 40:33Speaker 01

  Hmm, I wake up and check my phone.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, I think everyone kind of does that, right?

• 40:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, but, you know, it's like, like, I go to bed and I get so excited when I start to fall asleep, because I, and I can wake up late, because then I wake up to notifications.

• 40:47Speaker 04

  That's exciting.

• 40:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:49Speaker 04

  You like waking, it's like, kind of like Christmas Day.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  It's better than Christmas. It's literally better than Christmas.

• 40:55Speaker 04

  Because it's just like, how many notifications-

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Just like, what did I miss?

• 40:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, and you see, like, do you get, like- Texts, like, are you getting texts?

• 41:04Speaker 01

  You think we'd be friends?

• 41:06Speaker 04

  I don't know. Do we? Do you think we would be?

• 41:08Speaker 01

  I think we would be. I think.

• 41:10Speaker 04

  Or am I just so kind of like?

• 41:11Speaker 01

  I think you are, like, you are, like, a good person.

• 41:15Speaker 04

  Well, you're a good person. I think that's, comes across.

• 41:18Speaker 01

  Oh, you think?

• 41:19Speaker 04

  I know you. I know it's true.

• 41:20Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. Thank you. Wow. I needed to hear that today.

• 41:24Speaker 04

  Really?

• 41:25Speaker 01

  I woke up today and felt like a real bitch.

• 41:28Speaker 04

  Yeah?

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Yeah, I woke up and I was like.

• 41:30Speaker 04

  Do you normally wake up in a good mood or a sour mood?

• 41:34Speaker 01

  Pretty bad. Most of the time I wake up and I'm like, I want to die.

• 41:37Speaker 04

  Really?

• 41:38Speaker 01

  But I wake up, I look at the clock and I'm just like.

• 41:42Speaker 01

  And sometimes I wake up and I'm like, oh. And usually, like, people will be able to tell. Today I woke up and I was like, oh.

• 41:50Speaker 04

  Do you sleep straight through the night?

• 41:52Speaker 01

  No. Well, yes.

• 41:55Speaker 04

  I find that something happened several years ago where it's if I would have a glass of wine at dinner, I wake up.

• 42:00Speaker 01

  I hate, I hate casual drinking.

• 42:03Speaker 04

  I'm not, yeah. So I stopped doing.

• 42:05Speaker 01

  Are you sober?

• 42:06Speaker 04

  No. I'll still have a drink every now and again, but, but I'm not a heavy drinker or anything, but I, I don't like, I don't like drinking and going to sleep and waking up and it's just the next day. It's not even about.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  No, I get very hungover.

• 42:18Speaker 04

  I just feel, oh, and, and I like when I'm, um, if I can get to sleep early and I have a good night's sleep and I wake up and I'm like, right, like that kind of ready to tackle the day type feeling, but I find that that is a little more fleeting. And moments in time, sometimes you get so stressed and it's like I wake up and my mind's going a hundred miles an hour and I'm thinking of all different things.

• 42:40Speaker 01

  Alcohol makes it worse.

• 42:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:42Speaker 01

  I've been sober for a week, as I've told you, and I was with my friends yesterday who were so hungover. And they looked at me and they go, how does it feel that like we all went out last night and we feel so horrible today and you like feel amazing? And in that moment, I was like, I do feel better than you.

• 43:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:01Speaker 01

  Do you know what I mean?

• 43:01Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:02Speaker 01

  Not better, but like I was like, well, I feel I, yeah, I forgot like what it's like to wake up on a Saturday in New York and not be hung over.

• 43:08Speaker 04

  Yeah. And it's like it's kind of dying away. You just hear the noise of the world and it just kind of crushes in.

• 43:15Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 43:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 43:17Speaker 01

  What's the most fun night out you've ever had, ever?

• 43:20Speaker 04

  When my wife was pregnant, we, um, we're watching TV. We're living in the West Village and, um, we were watching, I think The Sopranos.

• 43:36Speaker 01

  I've never seen it.

• 43:37Speaker 04

  It's great.

• 43:37Speaker 01

  I know.

• 43:38Speaker 04

  It's a great show.

• 43:39Speaker 01

  I know.

• 43:40Speaker 04

  And so we were watching The Sopranos. It was like, we're watching in the afternoon, maybe a DVD or something. I don't know. Um, and all of a sudden I said, you want to go to Atlantic City?

• 43:50Speaker 04

  And she said, yeah. And we went, so we just walked down the street to the Dollar Rent a Rent a Rent a Car, rented a car, drove to Atlantic City, didn't have a place, didn't have a hotel to stay at, didn't have a, you know, nothing. We just went and walked up and say, we'd like to get a room. And they said, well, we're sold out. Like, you know what? Here, just take this. They just gave us, these two randos just gave us, uh, the, a suite. So like, this is incredible. So we go out to the suite.

• 44:29Speaker 04

  And then they come back downstairs and I go and I sit down right, like I've been there for five minutes. And, uh, I'm playing a video poker game and this guy, the pit boss comes over, goes, you here for the concert? And I said, no, what's the concert? He said, Boston.

• 44:46Speaker 01

  Who's Boston?

• 44:47Speaker 04

  Boston is a band. They were kind of like a classic rock band. I, they're great.

• 44:53Speaker 01

  Do they have a hit? I wouldn't know.

• 44:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. Uh, More Than a Feeling, like some of like seventies, that kind of like, they were like in the nineteen seventy six, I think.

• 45:01Speaker 01

  How does More Than a Feeling go again?

• 45:02Speaker 04

  More than a feeling.

• 45:04Speaker 01

  More than a feeling. And then it's something new.

• 45:08Speaker 04

  More than a feeling.

• 45:10Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 45:11Speaker 04

  And dreaming. So, um, so anyway, I go, no. I go, when are they playing? And he goes, about 10 minutes. You want to go? And I said, yeah.

• 45:25Speaker 04

  So my wife comes down, I said, Boston's playing in 10 minutes. And the guy just goes, here, and gave us tickets, like, house seats. We see, she's pregnant, we see Boston. It's an amazing concert. We walk out, I go past that machine, I put in like $20 or something, and I hit it, and I got like a royal flush.

• 45:49Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 45:49Speaker 04

  And what, like, a few thousand dollars. And then we got, and then we went to the suite, and then we just left. I'm like, okay, that's a perfect, there's, they just kept going. It kept getting better and better and better. And it was, it was an amazing night.

• 46:07Speaker 01

  That is so beautiful. There was, I thought you were gonna be like, I drank until the morning, like, da, da, da, da, da.

• 46:12Speaker 04

  No, seeing Boston with my eight-month-pregnant wife.

• 46:18Speaker 01

  That's really sweet. That's really sweet.

• 46:21Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:22Speaker 01

  Oh, my God, I love the way you look at life.

• 46:25Speaker 04

  That's the way, you gotta, you gotta, no, just, you know, it's about being content, finding those moments and treasuring them.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  You should listen to Kacey Musgraves.

• 46:35Speaker 04

  I love Kacey.

• 46:36Speaker 01

  Do you really?

• 46:36Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:37Speaker 01

  Have you heard her new album?

• 46:38Speaker 04

  I've heard the one song.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Dry spell?

• 46:40Speaker 04

  Yeah. Didn't she just do something with like, taking also people who are affected by ICE and making them, I mean, come on.

• 46:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's great.

• 46:48Speaker 04

  That's great.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  She's great, she is just, she is the one that got me into country. When I was 12 years old.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:55Speaker 01

  I heard Follow Your Arrow, and I said, wow, I did not know country could be about gay people.

• 47:00Speaker 04

  Country, I'm, I love country music.

• 47:04Speaker 01

  Really?

• 47:04Speaker 04

  Like, old-school country music. And then there's some, like, obviously, modern country singers that I think are really great, but, yeah.

• 47:10Speaker 01

  What do you listen to? Like, what are you listening to right now?

• 47:13Speaker 04

  What am I listening to right now? What am I listening to right now, Darby?

• 47:16Speaker 05

  I mean, I guess more mom, you and mom listen to a lot of, like, yacht rock. And for like newer fans, I feel like you like The Strokes.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  I love The Strokes!

• 47:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:24Speaker 01

  I love The Strokes!

• 47:25Speaker 04

  I'm very excited for this new Strokes album.

• 47:27Speaker 01

  Yes! Do you like the new, do you like the new single?

• 47:30Speaker 04

  I do.

• 47:31Speaker 01

  What's it, shopping? Going shopping? Is that what it's called?

• 47:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, what is it, uh, yeah, I do, I like, I think it's really, really catchy. I think Julian Casablanca is, he's like a crazy great singer.

• 47:44Speaker 01

  That's like a rock star.

• 47:45Speaker 04

  That range is crazy.

• 47:46Speaker 01

  Yeah. I saw them at Coachella the other week.

• 47:49Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah? How was that?

• 47:51Speaker 01

  The best weekend of my life.

• 47:53Speaker 04

  Really?

• 47:53Speaker 01

  The best weekend of my life.

• 47:57Speaker 04

  Why?

• 47:57Speaker 01

  Because, okay, so I lost 20 pounds. And I could get on everyone's shoulders again because I wasn't too heavy. And so, like, I know, like, you know what I mean? Like, two years ago, like,

• 48:14Speaker 01

  I was at The Strokes and I turned to my best friend and I was so excited. I'm always at music festivals, The Strokes are always there. And I've never seen them perform my favorite song in the entire world, "Someday", greatest song of all time. And they played it like two songs in and I was on my best friend Will's shoulders and I was screaming the lyrics. The desert, have you been to Coachella?

• 48:35Speaker 04

  No.

• 48:36Speaker 01

  The desert wind was blowing in my face. It was just like, this is it.

• 48:43Speaker 01

  Isn't that the first album, "Is This It"?

• 48:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's how I felt. And it was like one of the best concert specials I've ever seen in my life.

• 48:52Speaker 04

  Was it that was that was, were they your favorite band that you saw while you were there?

• 48:58Speaker 01

  You know what I loved about it? It was that, like, I loved every different performance for different reasons. So I saw, like, on night one, I saw, do you know Cat's Eye?

• 49:06Speaker 04

  Uh, no, who, I've heard of Cat's Eye, but I don't.

• 49:09Speaker 01

  They're a K-pop band.

• 49:10Speaker 04

  Right.

• 49:10Speaker 01

  I saw them with all my gays and we were having the best time ever. Pinky up. Uh, pinky up.

• 49:19Speaker 04

  What's that?

• 49:20Speaker 01

  That's their dance.

• 49:20Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 49:21Speaker 01

  One, two, one, two, three, but pinky up. Uh, pinky up. It was really good. And then after Cat's Eye, I saw, who did I see? Sabrina Carpenter, who was just to die for. And then we saw Disclosure. And that was just like, I was like, I never want to stop dancing.

• 49:41Speaker 04

  Right.

• 49:42Speaker 01

  I just want to dance until my legs fall off.

• 49:45Speaker 04

  Was that the first, now you've been to Coachella before?

• 49:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I've had, I've had experiences.

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 49:50Speaker 01

  Not good.

• 49:50Speaker 04

  Right.

• 49:51Speaker 01

  Housebroken. And then the other times I thought I was like too cool for it. So I was like, I'll go at 11.

• 49:58Speaker 01

  And then this time I was like, I'm gonna go to the festival. And I had the best time ever. Bieber was just amazing. But then Sunday I woke up and I said, if I don't leave right now, I will kill myself.

• 50:10Speaker 04

  That's a, it was just time. You knew it was time?

• 50:13Speaker 01

  It was like, no fucking around. If I said, we're up, my bags were packed. I said, I'm going home now. And then I got a Benadryl IV and slept for 24 hours.

• 50:24Speaker 04

  How long did it take to leave?

• 50:27Speaker 01

  It was quick because we left on Sunday morning.

• 50:29Speaker 04

  Oh, and everyone was still sta- everyone stayed?

• 50:30Speaker 01

  Everyone was there. They went to see Young Thug.

• 50:32Speaker 04

  Got it. Got it.

• 50:35Speaker 01

  You ever listen to Rapp?

• 50:37Speaker 04

  Uh, not really.

• 50:38Speaker 01

  I paint you as like a Jay-Z guy.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  No, I mean, I'm like, you know, my, I would say most of my tastes that I'm like, most of the stuff that I listen to is so kind of,

• 50:51Speaker 04

  it's like stuff like Divine Comedy, or stuff that's old, or bands that are, you know, not really, not many people are listening to. Not because it's like, that's so cool.

• 51:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 51:03Speaker 04

  It's just, I don't know, like, what's popular.

• 51:06Speaker 01

  Were you going to the Arrows Tour though, no?

• 51:09Speaker 04

  I did.

• 51:09Speaker 01

  Did you enjoy?

• 51:10Speaker 04

  I had a great time.

• 51:12Speaker 01

  You took her? Which show did you guys see?

• 51:13Speaker 04

  She took me.

• 51:14Speaker 01

  She took you. What show did you guys see?

• 51:16Speaker 04

  We saw the, well, it was out here, it was in New York.

• 51:19Speaker 01

  Oh, you saw the New Jersey one?

• 51:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:20Speaker 01

  I'm so jealous. Do you remember your surprise songs? Mm-mm, you don't.

• 51:25Speaker 04

  No, I bet, let's see, um, you, I know you remember.

• 51:29Speaker 01

  Was it Maroon? Did you guys get Maroon? You guys got clean?

• 51:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:32Speaker 01

  You guys got clean in Welcome to New York?

• 51:34Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:35Speaker 01

  I don't even know how I know that. I wasn't at the show. I was not at the show.

• 51:40Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:41Speaker 01

  Where did you film Power Ballad?

• 51:43Speaker 04

  I filmed it, by the way, how about the, did you hear that?

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Um, I did.

• 51:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 51:47Speaker 04

  It was, it's, um, we filmed it in Dublin, Ireland.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  Oh, gorge.

• 51:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:53Speaker 01

  How was it?

• 51:53Speaker 04

  Fantastic.

• 51:54Speaker 01

  I've never been to Ireland.

• 51:55Speaker 04

  Okay, you gotta go to Ireland.

• 51:56Speaker 01

  Did you touch the gift of the gab?

• 51:59Speaker 04

  No.

• 52:00Speaker 01

  You've never heard of the statue that you touch it and then you get the gift of the gab?

• 52:04Speaker 04

  Oh, the gift of the gab? I think, uh, no, I didn't touch it.

• 52:06Speaker 01

  I think you have the gift of the gab.

• 52:07Speaker 04

  I think you have the gift of the gab.

• 52:08Speaker 01

  Really?

• 52:09Speaker 04

  Of course you do.

• 52:10Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 52:11Speaker 04

  Ireland is the greatest. You will love it.

• 52:14Speaker 01

  Okay, but let me ask you one thing.

• 52:15Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 52:16Speaker 01

  The food.

• 52:17Speaker 04

  Okay, well, I think, you know, it's a cosmopolitan city now and there's, and, and so there are great restaurants.

• 52:24Speaker 01

  Like what?

• 52:25Speaker 04

  Uh, like, what are some great restaurants in Dublin that says, really, I'm put on the spot here. I don't know.

• 52:31Speaker 01

  You said they had good food.

• 52:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's great places. There were some great steak houses. I went to like, okay, you don't like steak.

• 52:36Speaker 01

  I hate steak houses.

• 52:37Speaker 04

  I'll tell you, here's a band that like I have never stopped listening to. That's one of my favorites is a band called The Pogues.

• 52:43Speaker 01

  Oh, I've heard of them.

• 52:44Speaker 04

  Okay, so that's, so that is, that will be where I would veer toward more than anything else, really. And that's very Irish centric music.

• 52:54Speaker 01

  Were you excited to film in Dublin? Have you filmed in Dublin before?

• 52:57Speaker 04

  I had one time briefly and I'd been to Ireland several times. It's one of my favorite places on that planet. I mean, a lot of people feel that way.

• 53:04Speaker 01

  And you never touched the gift of the gab?

• 53:06Speaker 04

  No, I've, I've kissed the Blarney Stone.

• 53:09Speaker 01

  That's the gift of the gab?

• 53:10Speaker 04

  That's the gift, so the gift of the gab is kissing the Blarney Stone?

• 53:14Speaker 01

  Please for me.

• 53:15Speaker 02

  The Blarney Stone, that Blarney Castle near Cork, Ireland.

• 53:18Speaker 01

  Does it give you the gift of the gab?

• 53:19Speaker 04

  Oh, that is the gift of the gab. Oh, that's the gift of the gab?

• 53:22Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 53:23Speaker 04

  I thought it was a luck thing. Yeah, so that I have, that I have.

• 53:26Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 53:26Speaker 04

  Well, that explains it then.

• 53:28Speaker 01

  I doubt it, doesn't it?

• 53:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 53:32Speaker 01

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• 54:48Speaker 01

  What drew you to the script?

• 54:51Speaker 04

  Well, the script I thought was great, but really it was the director. Have you ever seen any of John Carney's other movies?

• 54:57Speaker 01

  I've seen Once.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  Okay, Once is great.

• 55:00Speaker 01

  I'm lying.

• 55:01Speaker 04

  You love it.

• 55:03Speaker 04

  So, so Once is terrific.

• 55:06Speaker 01

  I know, I've heard.

• 55:07Speaker 04

  And then he did a movie called Sing Street.

• 55:09Speaker 01

  I know, but I've heard Once is to die for.

• 55:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's just, there's something, there's something, I think, with John Carney's movies, all of them, that are hopeful and the music is great. And there's something so kind of joyous and celebratory that I love, I love them. And I love they're so kind of inherently Irish, which

• 55:34Speaker 01

  Is he Irish?

• 55:34Speaker 04

  He is.

• 55:35Speaker 01

  Carney.

• 55:35Speaker 04

  And I'm very, I'm very drawn to things that are Irish. And so

• 55:41Speaker 01

  Are you Irish?

• 55:42Speaker 04

  Uh, no, I would love to be.

• 55:45Speaker 01

  You're Italian?

• 55:46Speaker 04

  No, British. My parents are both from London.

• 55:49Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 55:50Speaker 04

  Yeah. And, uh, but I've spent time in Ireland and I just, I, it's just a magical, amazing place. And, uh, I think that there's something about the mix of kind of the music.

• 56:04Speaker 04

  The locations and the spirit with which John kind of makes these films. And I was so excited to work with him. And I had done, there was this script, Powerball, it was written by a guy named Peter McDonald, who's in the movie. He's the guy who plays Sandy, my friend.

• 56:21Speaker 01

  Oh, the friend that you were very mean to?

• 56:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 56:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 56:25Speaker 04

  And.

• 56:27Speaker 01

  Oh, he wrote it?

• 56:27Speaker 04

  He wrote it. And he's, he's a great actor and he's a, I actually had worked with him briefly in Ireland one other, one other time. So.

• 56:38Speaker 01

  What was it?

• 56:39Speaker 04

  It was a, there was a show called Moon Boy.

• 56:42Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 56:43Speaker 04

  The actor Chris O'Dowd created. And I did an episode of Moon Boy. And that was the only other time I'd actually ever worked in Ireland.

• 56:51Speaker 01

  Does, so does John Carney, did he write the song in the movie?

• 56:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, John was, is a musician as well.

• 56:57Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 56:57Speaker 04

  And he's, he was in a band called The Frames. It's actually, and in once Glenn Hansard is the guy. And they were friends. They were in a band together. And so John was a bassist. And music is such a part of who he is. But he started really getting into filmmaking. And so he somehow kind of straddles the line of musician and filmmaker. Even though he would say, oh, I'm a, he's a filmmaker, but music is so important to him. And, and it runs through every film that he's done. And he even directs like a musician. It was really kind of a cool thing. You know, we would be, we'd show up at work and there would be a three-page scene that we're supposed to do.

• 57:40Speaker 04

  And he'd say, nah, I don't think we'd say this. Well, let's, let's,

• 57:45Speaker 04

  let's try something. And, and it would be some sort of improvisation or some kind of new thing. He'd say, let's follow this and let's go like this and let's, let's explore that. And, and it, it felt like being a musician in a studio. And it's like you're coming up with some

• 57:59Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 58:01Speaker 04

  And he would kind of trust in that. And there was this vitality and life to the way he works that I just loved. And so.

• 58:12Speaker 04

  I think that it was like, yeah, the appeal of, of working in Ireland with him. Music is important to me, too. And it was a really challenging thing because I do stuff in that movie that I've never really done before. So.

• 58:24Speaker 01

  Like what?

• 58:24Speaker 04

  Well, just like kind of the singing and music and the guitar and all that kind of stuff. It was all this. I'd never really.

• 58:31Speaker 01

  Did you have to play actual guitar?

• 58:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, but it's, it's not, it's like, that's not my to, to. It's not my thing, really. And so I was, it was, it was kind of scary and a little nerve wracking and exciting. I was excited to kind of tackle it all.

• 58:45Speaker 01

  Did you take vocal lessons?

• 58:47Speaker 04

  No.

• 58:48Speaker 01

  You just did it? You sound amazing.

• 58:50Speaker 04

  Well, thank you. I'm, I, I just did it. But, you know, I would say I'm such a karaoke enthusiast that, uh.

• 58:57Speaker 01

  Are you?

• 58:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:58Speaker 01

  What's your karaoke song?

• 59:00Speaker 04

  I do it so much. I have a karaoke song because I have a, we have it at our house.

• 59:05Speaker 01

  You have a karaoke machine?

• 59:06Speaker 04

  I have a karaoke, uh, on, we have a, I have a pub in my house.

• 59:11Speaker 01

  What?

• 59:11Speaker 04

  Irish pub in my house and it has karaoke on it. So people come over and, and sing all the time.

• 59:16Speaker 01

  I want to come over for karaoke.

• 59:18Speaker 04

  All right.

• 59:19Speaker 01

  I'll be there.

• 59:19Speaker 04

  All right.

• 59:20Speaker 01

  Don't play with me.

• 59:22Speaker 04

  What do you think, Darby?

• 59:23Speaker 01

  Can I come over for karaoke?

• 59:24Speaker 05

  Of course. You're always welcome.

• 59:26Speaker 01

  I want to actually come over for karaoke.

• 59:28Speaker 05

  Please.

• 59:29Speaker 01

  What do you want to sing? Shallow, obviously.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  I mean, obviously we're doing shallow.

• 59:34Speaker 01

  Obviously.

• 59:34Speaker 04

  What's your karaoke go? Do you, are you a, do you like karaoke?

• 59:37Speaker 01

  Okay. So I, I try, like, I, I don't really do it often.

• 59:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 59:42Speaker 01

  But when I do it, I feel like it's always fucking shallow.

• 59:44Speaker 04

  It's fun.

• 59:45Speaker 01

  What's the most fun you've ever had on a job ever?

• 59:49Speaker 04

  The most fun I've ever had on a job.

• 59:54Speaker 04

  Anchorman was really fun. I Love You Man was really fun.

• 59:58Speaker 01

  I love that movie.

• 59:59Speaker 04

  That was really, really fun one to do. Uh, Wet Hot American Summer was very fun because we were, it was like at a summer camp and it felt like being at summer camp. But I think a lot of the comedies are a blast because it's, it's, I just have been able to work with some of the funniest people in the world and it makes going to work such a joy.

• 1:00:18Speaker 01

  Did you go to, when you were at acting school, did you study comedy or was it something that just came naturally to you?

• 1:00:23Speaker 04

  I didn't, I didn't. My, I always loved comedy and I loved comedians and I used to watch SNL and, and I thought, oh, that'd be so cool to be at Second City or something like that. But I actually studied theater and I was not a comedy.

• 1:00:36Speaker 01

  What was it like hosting SNL for the first time?

• 1:00:38Speaker 04

  Surreal. Yeah, really, uh, it was, I was so excited.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  How old were you?

• 1:00:46Speaker 04

  I was thirty, thirty-eight, thirty-nine, thirty, yeah.

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  And I, I was, I was, it was a little, it was a little weird because it was just two weeks after my, my dad died. Yeah, so it was like, okay, he knew, I had weird things going through my head, which is like, my dad knew I was gonna host SNL. And he was very excited for me. And now it's happening, and, but, and he's not here. And so it was like, kind of wrestling those thoughts with, oh, my God, I can't believe I'm hosting SNL. I've wanted to do this my whole life, I've been a fan of this show. And so it was such a mix of so many feelings. And, and then on top of it all, just kind of sheer terror.

• 1:01:35Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:35Speaker 04

  Because in a way, it's like, oh, oh, yeah, it is live.

• 1:01:41Speaker 01

  You just fuck up that thing.

• 1:01:42Speaker 04

  You kind of, you kind of put it aside, and it, and it, it happened so quickly.

• 1:01:52Speaker 04

  That people say like, okay, just know that it's gonna, it's gonna fly by, don't forget to enjoy it. You know, it's getting kind of tips along the way. My musical guest was, first time I hosted was Beyonce.

• 1:02:08Speaker 01

  Shut up.

• 1:02:09Speaker 04

  Yeah. And so.

• 1:02:10Speaker 01

  You hosted SNL with Beyonce?

• 1:02:12Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:13Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:02:14Speaker 04

  Yeah. And, uh, and so that was, that was crazy. And, and also, she was in a sketch, you know, do you remember the SNL sketch, like the famous one? She did all the single ladies that they reted? So that was my first time I ever hosted, was that show.

• 1:02:31Speaker 01

  That's, that's a very famous sketch. I remember watching that when I was a kid.

• 1:02:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, so that show was the first time I ever hosted, and it was one of those kind of, oh, my God, this is really, really happening. It was a total thrill.

• 1:02:44Speaker 01

  Did it, do you think it helped with your grieving process at all? Is that a weird question?

• 1:02:49Speaker 04

  No, not at all. It's, I don't, yeah, I don't know if it, if it helped or hurt or anything, it was just another thing that was.

• 1:02:59Speaker 04

  You know, it's like, when you think back sometimes into the past,

• 1:03:05Speaker 04

  you think in terms of just these kind of generic, like, oh, that was a while ago, that was a while ago. Like, when I think of the very first time I hosted SNL, I think, like, that was a few weeks after my dad died. It like puts, it puts a weird time in history. Like, I can, I, I have an understanding of when that was. And so it makes me kind of recall it in a different way. And, uh, and it was, it was, it was exciting. Like, I, I was so sad, obviously. And yet, that was so, it was so much fun to do that show. So I suppose in some way, yeah, it helped. I could not think about it for a while. You can't really think about anything while you're doing it.

• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  Therapeutic, in a sense.

• 1:03:47Speaker 04

  Yeah. Um, uh, but it, it, it's, it's all kind of wrapped up together for me.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:03:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:03:54Speaker 01

  And what project were you promoting at the time?

• 1:03:56Speaker 04

  Role models.

• 1:04:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, that was it.

• 1:04:02Speaker 01

  Who else was in that movie?

• 1:04:04Speaker 04

  It was, um.

• 1:04:05Speaker 01

  Cause I saw it at the time.

• 1:04:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, uh, it was Sean William Scott, the other guy. And then, uh, Christopher Mintz-Plas, this kid named Bobby J. Thompson, who was hilarious. Uh, Jane Lynch was in it. Uh, my friend A.D. Miles was in it. Joe LaTrulio was in it. Um, a lot of, Ken Jeong was in it. Yeah.

• 1:04:26Speaker 01

  I remember having to actually beg my dad to let me see that in theaters.

• 1:04:31Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 1:04:32Speaker 01

  It was that, I would have to beg him to see that. It was like that and like Bridesmaids and all those movies that were coming out. And all those, those, at that time was a very big time at the box office for comedies.

• 1:04:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:42Speaker 01

  Right?

• 1:04:42Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:43Speaker 01

  Am I remembering correctly?

• 1:04:44Speaker 04

  Yeah, you're remembering it, absolutely. It was, it was, and it was in, it was very exciting. And Judd Apatow was behind a lot of those.

• 1:04:51Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:04:52Speaker 04

  Not role models, he wasn't, but, um, but it was kind of, yeah, a lot of people go into the movie theaters and watching comedies. And it was, these were the things to see. And to be around that and to be a part of that was really cool.

• 1:05:05Speaker 01

  It was a really good age for comedy.

• 1:05:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  Was it, was Amy Poehler on SNL back when you were hosting?

• 1:05:10Speaker 04

  No, she had just left by the time I was hosting.

• 1:05:14Speaker 01

  Who was, do you remember who was on the cast?

• 1:05:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, uh, well, Kristen Wiig.

• 1:05:17Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:05:17Speaker 04

  Bill Hader and, uh, Will Forte, Jason Sudeikis.

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:05:23Speaker 04

  I was that, yeah. Yeah.

• 1:05:25Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:05:26Speaker 04

  That group.

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  What a life.

• 1:05:29Speaker 04

  You would be great at hosting SNL. Is it, it's your dream.

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  You really think that, or are you just saying not to say that?

• 1:05:36Speaker 04

  No, of course, I know it would be true. You would, you're funny. You would, and you would thrive in that. I think like you, I think that you step up to the moment.

• 1:05:46Speaker 01

  Tell me more.

• 1:05:49Speaker 04

  I think you, I think that you don't, I think you accept a challenge. I think that when you see an opportunity for kind of something to celebrate or go for it in some way, that I think that it is inherent in probably in who you are. I'm guessing. I think that like when you did the show, did you have so much fun doing the show?

• 1:06:14Speaker 01

  So much fun.

• 1:06:14Speaker 04

  And I would imagine like when that came about, you, you were.

• 1:06:18Speaker 01

  Nervous.

• 1:06:19Speaker 04

  Sure, but probably like, oh no, I'm doing this. This is something, this was like you, you were.

• 1:06:23Speaker 01

  There was no second guessing.

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  None, right?

• 1:06:25Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:06:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, there you go.

• 1:06:27Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:06:28Speaker 04

  And also like that, that, you know, that, oh, here's an interesting thing. The very, when I first hosted, one of the head writers, Simon Rich.

• 1:06:36Speaker 01

  No way.

• 1:06:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Did you see All Out?

• 1:06:40Speaker 04

  No, and I didn't see you do it because, and the reason why was when you were doing it, I was away the entire time, working on a movie written by Nathaniel Rich, Simon's brother.

• 1:06:51Speaker 01

  Brother. And is that movie out yet?

• 1:06:54Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:06:55Speaker 01

  Well, of course not. You filmed it in December or January, whatever.

• 1:06:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:07:00Speaker 04

  So I was in New Orleans.

• 1:07:01Speaker 01

  Kind of kismet with us. A little bit. Okay, do you want to do the tell me what's wrongs?

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:10Speaker 01

  Are you familiar with my stuff at all?

• 1:07:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, I am. I've watched, I watched, by the way. Well, first of all, my daughter has always been like, okay, you, you, uh, look at this, check this out. Like, oh, he just did talk with Nick Jonas.

• 1:07:28Speaker 01

  I did?

• 1:07:28Speaker 04

  Yep. And, um, and so then I kind of went, went down the rabbit hole a little bit and I was all excited. Also, the very first episode with Bejeweled and I saw.

• 1:07:37Speaker 01

  You watched the Julia Bejeweled episode?

• 1:07:40Speaker 04

  Yeah. And, uh, and I would, but I was also like, oh my God, he's doing an entire episode on, uh, Bejeweled, which is a game I have on my phone. I'm like, oh no, it's a different Bejeweled.

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  Wait, I'm dying. Do you know how ner- I was more nervous to film that first episode than I was for anything ever.

• 1:07:55Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:07:56Speaker 01

  Ever. I think it was the first time Nolan and I had met in person. I was so anxious. I didn't know what to talk about. I kept screaming at Julia, my best friend. Like, I was just, uh, do you remember that? I kept making like weird Mormon jokes that we had to cut. Like, I went on a whole tangent about Mormons that I had, and we had to cut it. Louis was like, why would you say that about them? I was like, I don't know. I don't know what to say.

• 1:08:21Speaker 04

  It's really a nerve wracking thing, you know, once you just start talking like what, was, was it something like, I know I want to have this podcast. This was a goal or did it just like how I'm?

• 1:08:31Speaker 01

  So I was kind of at like a crossroads.

• 1:08:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:35Speaker 01

  The SAG was on strike.

• 1:08:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:37Speaker 01

  And I was like, I really wanted to act, but there was nothing going on at the moment. And I had quit my job and I was like, a podcast would be fun and it seems low pressure enough.

• 1:08:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:53Speaker 01

  And my manager Zach was like, you, you shouldn't expect to see any growth until you hit the two year mark. If you're consistent with it for two years, then you will see growth. And to my surprise, it happened far quicker than two years. And now I'm speaking to you here.

• 1:09:11Speaker 04

  Did you always, you always want to be an actor?

• 1:09:14Speaker 01

  I love acting. I was just in my first movie this summer with Louis.

• 1:09:18Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:09:19Speaker 01

  And it premiered at South by, similar to Power Ballad. And I just find it to be the most rewarding thing.

• 1:09:27Speaker 04

  You had a great time doing it.

• 1:09:28Speaker 01

  I had the best time. My favorite thing is like if I make a joke or if I'm like riffing and then you hear like, like Video Village laugh.

• 1:09:35Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  It's like the best feeling in the entire world.

• 1:09:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:38Speaker 01

  I like, I love hearing, it was, everything always came from like me trying to make my friends laugh.

• 1:09:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:43Speaker 01

  So then if I'm like making people laugh, it's like, that's the most rewarding. So.

• 1:09:47Speaker 04

  It, I'm with you. I feel the same way.

• 1:09:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:09:52Speaker 04

  When you were kind of growing up, what were some of your favorite things? Did you like comedy more than?

• 1:09:57Speaker 01

  My favorite movie was Bridesmaids. But my favorite movie of all time is Devil Wears Prada. I just find it to be like a bible of how to live life.

• 1:10:05Speaker 04

  We had this conversation on the way over here, by the way.

• 1:10:07Speaker 01

  You did? What's your favorite movie of all time?

• 1:10:09Speaker 05

  My favorite movie of all time is Step Brothers.

• 1:10:11Speaker 01

  Step Brothers? What's your favorite movie of all time?

• 1:10:15Speaker 04

  Boy, it's, I don't know if I have a favorite movie of all time. One of them is a movie called With Nail and Eye. It's one of my favorite movies.

• 1:10:21Speaker 01

  With who?

• 1:10:21Speaker 04

  It's called With Nail and Eye.

• 1:10:23Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:10:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. But I have, there are so many movies that I, it's an impossible question.

• 1:10:27Speaker 01

  I just love, Bridesmaids like taught me how to be funny. And then the Devil Wears Prada taught me to never quit my job because it was hard. Have you seen the Devil Wears Prada?

• 1:10:37Speaker 04

  Yeah. Several times.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  What do you think about her leaving in Paris? Like, what's your take on that?

• 1:10:43Speaker 04

  Her, like?

• 1:10:44Speaker 01

  When she tosses the phone in the fountain and it's like, fuck this, and leaves.

• 1:10:49Speaker 04

  Uh, I think it's essential for the film.

• 1:10:52Speaker 01

  I know, but do you think it was a good decision? No. You're working for Miranda Priestly at Runway!

• 1:10:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, you've, you feel like she, she needed to stick with it just a little bit more.

• 1:11:06Speaker 01

  I just think she had more, more in her than she thought. Like, she thought she watched Miranda Priestly.

• 1:11:14Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:11:15Speaker 01

  Kind of fuck over Stanley Tucci.

• 1:11:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:11:18Speaker 01

  And she was like, well, that could happen to me. And it's like, well, it could, but Andy had so much potential in her that I don't think that she would ever let that happen to her.

• 1:11:26Speaker 04

  But what would she be sacrificing in her personal life?

• 1:11:29Speaker 01

  Everything.

• 1:11:31Speaker 01

  But as Lady Gaga once says, "Your career will never wake up and tell you it doesn't love you anymore."

• 1:11:39Speaker 04

  Mine did years ago.

• 1:11:41Speaker 01

  No, it didn't. These are the tell me what's wrongs now.

• 1:11:44Speaker 04

  I can't wait.

• 1:11:44Speaker 01

  Okay. "My friend keeps trying to get me to go on a trip with her, but she just gets so drunk whenever we go out. And I know it would be just signing up to babysit. I want to plan more trips for the summer without hurting her feelings, but I don't know how to tell her that she would be a terrible travel partner."

• 1:12:00Speaker 04

  Oof. That's, that's kind of a dilemma, isn't it?

• 1:12:04Speaker 01

  You have to say, "You're an alcoholic."

• 1:12:07Speaker 04

  She's an alcoholic, she's a straight up alcoholic.

• 1:12:09Speaker 01

  If you're babysitting your friend every time you go out, yeah, that's alcoholism.

• 1:12:12Speaker 04

  Every single time, it's like, come on. And if you're taking trips, what, what kind of trip are we taking? Are we taking someplace, we're gonna learn like something historical?

• 1:12:21Speaker 01

  So what you're, what you'll learn now quickly is that we don't have context usually with any of these questions. There's no context, so we kind of just have to like go off our gut instinct. My gut instinct is telling me Europe.

• 1:12:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. Here's the thing, if this is bothering you so much that every time you go out, your friend is drinking and it's making it miserable, that you're going to write in a question about it, then you already know your answer.

• 1:12:42Speaker 01

  You say, "I can't go on a trip with you, you'll get drunk and it'll be miserable." And then they'll look at you and say, "No, I won't do that." And then what do you do then? Friendship over, huh?

• 1:12:51Speaker 01

  Life is hard.

• 1:12:51Speaker 04

  It really is.

• 1:12:53Speaker 01

  "How do I deal with someone who literally is the biggest manipulator and pity party me? My whole friend group goes through phases of hating her, me, but they always fall for victim complex and go back, me. I am the only one who calls her out and it frustrates me so much. How do I deal with this without seeming like the confrontational one?"

• 1:13:11Speaker 04

  Yeah. Oh, gosh. Life is short, you know? It's, I think that if this is, if, if you really care about somebody and this is what they're doing, and you're confronting them, which he clearly is, or he clearly is, and it's just getting to be too much of a drag, then spare yourself.

• 1:13:30Speaker 01

  And do what, though? Her whole friend group goes back to them always.

• 1:13:35Speaker 01

  And then if they're-

• 1:13:36Speaker 04

  I think, yeah, I think you just kind of like, alright, friendship maybe takes a take one step back-

• 1:13:41Speaker 01

  So maybe you need to make new friends entirely-

• 1:13:42Speaker 04

  Or just be like, alright, can you hang with this and just kind of ignore it? Don't take any of this-

• 1:13:46Speaker 01

  You can't ignore that. You can't.

• 1:13:49Speaker 04

  Well, if it's making you upset, then every time you go out, you're just like, you know, you gotta... You might need to dump the whole group.

• 1:13:56Speaker 01

  That's what I'm thinking, too.

• 1:13:57Speaker 04

  You think so?

• 1:13:57Speaker 01

  Just take some break, make some new friends, go on a run club. You run?

• 1:14:02Speaker 04

  On a treadmill occasionally, yeah. Yeah. Yeah, I do. I'll bike.

• 1:14:08Speaker 01

  You bike? I totally see that for you.

• 1:14:11Speaker 04

  No, you know, that was a real thing, like, uh, like this idea of getting real cycling, like, there are those guys that go like all through, like, NiAC and all that, and they get the whole thing. I'm not that kind of cyclist, no.

• 1:14:22Speaker 01

  Oh, speaking of cyclists, do you watch True Crime?

• 1:14:26Speaker 04

  Like, in general?

• 1:14:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:14:28Speaker 04

  I mean, I've seen some True Crime, but-

• 1:14:30Speaker 01

  Do you care about True Crime?

• 1:14:32Speaker 04

  Not really.

• 1:14:33Speaker 01

  You gotta watch the show on Netflix right now, Should I Marry a Murderer?

• 1:14:37Speaker 04

  That sounds so unappealing to me.

• 1:14:41Speaker 01

  Cyclist.

• 1:14:43Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:14:44Speaker 01

  Dead.

• 1:14:46Speaker 01

  That's it. Go in with that.

• 1:14:47Speaker 04

  That's the teaser?

• 1:14:49Speaker 01

  It is actually crazy. Has anyone seen it? Do you want me to tell you?

• 1:14:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:53Speaker 01

  She basically-

• 1:14:56Speaker 01

  She basically, like, this woman is, like, so down bad, she's had this horrible breakup and meets this guy on Tinder. She goes, like, "He's a little drinking problem," you know, she's like, "He's a little drinker," but he's like this, like, hot,

• 1:15:11Speaker 01

  like...

• 1:15:13Speaker 01

  Like welder? What does he do? Something with his hands? Oh, he's a farmer! And, no, he's not a farmer, is he a farmer? He's on a farm. It's like on a farm, he like does handiwork. So it's like hot to her.

• 1:15:26Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:15:26Speaker 01

  He proposes to her, right?

• 1:15:28Speaker 04

  Proposes?

• 1:15:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, he proposed, like, after a few weeks or months, whatever, I forget. And then, he proposes to her, and then he drives, and, that's not funny, it's horrible, and he goes, um... He's like, "Keep your phone in the car, I have to tell you something." And she goes, "Okay." And, he goes...

• 1:15:46Speaker 01

  "One time I was really, I drunk drove home, and I drove over this cyclist, and we buried him." And she was like-

• 1:15:55Speaker 01

  Like. What? And then, so they go home and she's like.

• 1:16:02Speaker 01

  And then they fall, he falls asleep, so she's Googling, this cyclist has been missing for years. Years. So she's like, oh my God, what do I do? Uh, what do you think she does? She continues with the relationship. She's like, well, he's supposed to come for Thanksgiving dinner. What am I supposed to do? And she like, does she bring him to Thanksgiving dinner? Yeah. It's crazy. You should watch it.

• 1:16:25Speaker 01

  It's crazy.

• 1:16:27Speaker 04

  And it gets crazier from there. She stays with the guy.

• 1:16:29Speaker 01

  And like, it's like, oh my God. And everyone's watching, it's probably like, oh my God, fucking turn him in. But she was like, I told, the funniest part of it is she's like, I told my parents about him. So what am I gonna do? And it's like, what? You told your parents about him, so you have to bring him for Christmas dinner, even though he's a murderer? And the best part is, the best part is, I was always wondering, you know how in a true crime shows, they show like found footage and it's always like, ah, ah. And it's like, the girl, the VHS, VHS cam.

• 1:16:54Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:16:54Speaker 01

  It's now like, like videos of them with like the doggy Snapchat filter. You notice that? So it's like, like it feels like kind of the new generation of true crime. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:17:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:07Speaker 01

  Like, all her videos are with a filter. All her Snapchat videos with him, they all have a filter on them. It's the weirdest thing.

• 1:17:13Speaker 04

  That's so crazy.

• 1:17:15Speaker 01

  When I, like, it's, it's, you don't care.

• 1:17:17Speaker 04

  No, I do, I do, I can't, like, I, I'm following this. This is interesting and I'm, I do wanna know how that plays out.

• 1:17:25Speaker 01

  Me too, but I'm in the middle of Casino, as you know.

• 1:17:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:17:28Speaker 01

  And I have to finish that.

• 1:17:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, that's gonna take a while.

• 1:17:31Speaker 01

  Three hours.

• 1:17:33Speaker 04

  You know, though.

• 1:17:35Speaker 01

  I don't.

• 1:17:35Speaker 04

  You gotta sit down, just go, all right, I'm going to do it in one fell swoop. It's not a huge commitment, really.

• 1:17:44Speaker 01

  I knew you were gonna say one fell swoop.

• 1:17:45Speaker 04

  You did, no.

• 1:17:45Speaker 01

  You just synced up so hard right there. I was like, he's about to say one fell swoop.

• 1:17:48Speaker 04

  It's like, you know, that was never even a consideration back in my day. When you would, you'd watch a movie, it's like, oh yeah, no, you, cuz you actually had to go to the movies to see it. And it was like, all right, I'm gonna watch it and then it's done and it's great. Or even if you're watching it on HBO or something, it's like, oh, it's great. But now it's like, we, we stop and, and you do it in segments and it's, we've lost something.

• 1:18:11Speaker 01

  Have you ever walked out of a movie?

• 1:18:13Speaker 04

  Yeah. Have you?

• 1:18:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, no.

• 1:18:16Speaker 04

  Do you like scary movies?

• 1:18:17Speaker 01

  I love scary movies.

• 1:18:18Speaker 04

  What's your favorite scary movie?

• 1:18:20Speaker 01

  My favorite scary movie?

• 1:18:24Speaker 01

  The one I've been the most scared at was The Conjuring 2.

• 1:18:27Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:18:28Speaker 01

  Just because there's a scene, a good jump scare isn't a jump scare where there's like a lead up to it. A good jump scare happens out of literally nowhere. And there's this insane jump scare in The Conjuring 2. But I would say my favorite scary movie of all time. What's yours?

• 1:18:45Speaker 04

  I do really like The Shining.

• 1:18:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:18:50Speaker 04

  That is good. Not one of your favorites, I think.

• 1:18:52Speaker 01

  It's good.

• 1:18:53Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:18:53Speaker 01

  It didn't frighten me.

• 1:18:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, I like, I mean, I'm like, jump scares, I'm kind of like, meh.

• 1:19:00Speaker 01

  Oh, The Ring. I love The Ring.

• 1:19:01Speaker 04

  Yeah. Well, yeah. And they, um, the Ringoo, the orig- the original.

• 1:19:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, the original. I've heard it's terrifying.

• 1:19:08Speaker 04

  Oh, man. That was, that movie's really scary. There's another movie called Audition that was really terrifying.

• 1:19:15Speaker 01

  I love the Purge movies. I've seen every single one.

• 1:19:19Speaker 04

  I just saw Hocum.

• 1:19:21Speaker 01

  Me too!

• 1:19:22Speaker 04

  Oh, you did?

• 1:19:23Speaker 01

  It's amazing!

• 1:19:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:24Speaker 01

  I thought it was very scary.

• 1:19:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:19:26Speaker 01

  You want to know what my favorite TV show, scary, scary TV show of all time is?

• 1:19:30Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:19:31Speaker 01

  The Haunting of Hill House.

• 1:19:33Speaker 04

  I've never seen it.

• 1:19:34Speaker 01

  Oh, my fuck. It is unbelievable.

• 1:19:39Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:19:39Speaker 01

  The director, Mike, do you know who Mike Flanagan is?

• 1:19:42Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:19:43Speaker 01

  He does The Haunting of Hill House, The Haunting of Black Man, or Midnight Mass, which is also amazing.

• 1:19:48Speaker 01

  But The Haunting of Hill House, um, it was, I was very scared. I was very scared, but it was very moving and they, do you listen to Gregory Allen and his glove?

• 1:19:58Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. Not a lot. I know who he is, but yeah.

• 1:20:00Speaker 01

  They have a great needle drop with him in the final episode that ties it up. It's just the best show. It is one of the best shows I've ever seen in my life.

• 1:20:07Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:20:08Speaker 01

  You have to watch it if you're down.

• 1:20:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, I am. I'm like, I'm not a huge scary.

• 1:20:14Speaker 01

  It's very scary. It's like, very scary.

• 1:20:16Speaker 04

  But yeah. I was, there was a movie when I was a kid that scared me so much. I'd say like The Shining's the scariest movie that I've ever seen. The scariest movie that I've never seen. Was a movie called Magic. And when I was a kid, I went to a movie and they were showing previews and they showed a preview of this movie Magic with Anthony Hopkins and he's a ventriloquist and he has this dummy. And there was something about the puppet that was so scary looking to me that I freaked out. I couldn't watch it. And then like that, like going home that night, I remember as I had to sleep in my parents' room.

• 1:20:57Speaker 01

  Oh, really? How old were you?

• 1:20:59Speaker 04

  I was like thirty.

• 1:21:03Speaker 04

  I was probably, I was probably like, I don't know, like eight or nine or something, nine maybe. And then one time, like a week later, I was up in my parents' room, I was watching TV. They were downstairs and a commercial for it came on and I freaked out and I ran downstairs. I'm like, huh, I saw it, I saw it. And my dad said, all right, we'll go turn the TV off. I'm like, I can't go up there. I couldn't go up there. And he's like, god damn it. And he said, he had to get out and go turn the TV off. And it started an evening of complete meltdown. Cause I had a lot of fears when I was young.

• 1:21:47Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:21:47Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:21:48Speaker 01

  What else were you scared of?

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  I was just scared of, this thing was like, I think that capped it off though. And then I, like, I think after that, my mom took me to go talk to a therapist.

• 1:21:57Speaker 01

  Oh, you have great parents.

• 1:21:58Speaker 04

  Yeah. But no, I was scared of like, there was a moment in time when I was, I think about five, I needed everything taken out of my room because I was just scared of stuff in the dark and I was scared of things on the wall. Do you have OCD? No.

• 1:22:12Speaker 01

  Okay, sorry, just wondering.

• 1:22:13Speaker 04

  No, no, no. I think I just, yeah, I think I had some, I think I was fearful as a kid, yeah.

• 1:22:19Speaker 01

  I also had many fears.

• 1:22:22Speaker 04

  Really?

• 1:22:22Speaker 01

  I've, I've realized now, I have health fears. Like my high blood pressure today, I'm like gonna be, you, do you understand? When you, if you ever take a look, do you have Instagram?

• 1:22:33Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:22:34Speaker 01

  Okay, if you ever just like look at my Instagram later, I'm going to post about my high blood pressure. And it is going to be my bit for the entire week that I have high blood pressure. And my dad is going to call me freaking the fuck out that I have high blood pressure. And it is going to ruin my week.

• 1:22:50Speaker 04

  Did you have like a physical and then?

• 1:22:52Speaker 01

  I had an IV. I got an IV.

• 1:22:55Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:22:56Speaker 01

  Have you ever gone and like someone's come to you and given you an IV?

• 1:22:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, like a like a like a B12 or something like that.

• 1:23:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, one of those, one of those. And I've never, every time, great blood pressure, great blood pressure, great blood pressure, great blood. High. It was high.

• 1:23:10Speaker 04

  Well, this might have been a fluky thing. I don't think.

• 1:23:12Speaker 01

  But I haven't drank in a week. It doesn't make sense.

• 1:23:17Speaker 04

  Did you try and do it again? You've only done it once, three times, and all three times they said it's hot?

• 1:23:23Speaker 01

  It was yellow, as if I had a fever. I was like, what the fuck is going on?

• 1:23:28Speaker 04

  But three times in the same day?

• 1:23:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, I just, I just, literally right before you got here.

• 1:23:33Speaker 04

  Oh, okay. I don't think you should worry about this. I think you should, and you get to test it again in it.

• 1:23:39Speaker 01

  I'm color me worried.

• 1:23:41Speaker 04

  You're hypochondriacal.

• 1:23:42Speaker 01

  Yes, extraordinarily so.

• 1:23:44Speaker 04

  Always?

• 1:23:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, but it's weird because the other day I saw something leaking out of a plane as I was about to get on it. And I was like, fuck it.

• 1:23:53Speaker 01

  Like,

• 1:23:55Speaker 01

  like one time I was on a plane and they couldn't get it working. And by the third time they go, there we go. And then they took off. And at that rate, I'm just like, well, if, you know, take me.

• 1:24:07Speaker 04

  That is so healthy.

• 1:24:10Speaker 01

  I know, but then it's like high blood pressure will send me into psychosis. Okay, as fans of the show, is this a good episode? Yeah. Oh, period? She said yeah so fast.

• 1:24:20Speaker 04

  Is it?

• 1:24:21Speaker 01

  Has she said yeah so fast?

• 1:24:23Speaker 04

  Honestly, it's my, because I do worry like, I'm like, oh, God, am I just putting everybody to sleep here?

• 1:24:28Speaker 01

  No, how could you ever? You're Paul Rudd.

• 1:24:34Speaker 04

  I don't think, I don't think, uh, I don't think that I'm that engaging in these settings.

• 1:24:41Speaker 01

  That is not true.

• 1:24:41Speaker 04

  You don't think so?

• 1:24:42Speaker 01

  Do you have self-esteem?

• 1:24:43Speaker 04

  Not really, but I don't think that I'm, I offer too much, uh...

• 1:24:47Speaker 01

  That is not true. You're America's treasure.

• 1:24:52Speaker 01

  You are.

• 1:24:53Speaker 04

  Say you are, Jake.

• 1:24:55Speaker 01

  No, you know, many would disagree with that.

• 1:24:58Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:24:59Speaker 01

  Help, I ended up the salutation of my... What the fuck is a salutation?

• 1:25:04Speaker 04

  It's the, it's, it's, oh, it's right below...

• 1:25:05Speaker 01

  Salutatorian.

• 1:25:06Speaker 04

  Right below...

• 1:25:08Speaker 01

  Valedictorian.

• 1:25:09Speaker 04

  So it's like the penultimate valedictorian.

• 1:25:12Speaker 01

  Yes. You're so smart. You're so smart. I love penultimate episodes. Those are always better than the season finale, admit.

• 1:25:21Speaker 04

  They are.

• 1:25:22Speaker 01

  They are always better.

• 1:25:22Speaker 04

  Because they really set it up.

• 1:25:23Speaker 01

  The Game of Thrones penultimate episodes, best in the game. You didn't watch Game of Thrones?

• 1:25:28Speaker 04

  No, I didn't.

• 1:25:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:25:29Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:30Speaker 01

  Help, I ended up the salutatorian of my class, and now I have to give a graduation speech. I have no idea what to write about. I don't care about any of these people, and I have the worst stage right. Please give me ideas. So I've actually never heard of a salutatorian giving a graduation speech.

• 1:25:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:25:43Speaker 01

  Usually it's the valedictorian. And, but I would say I love speech writing. So if you want to follow up, I will help you write your speech. I love writing speeches. It's my favorite thing to do. When I was in high school, my mom had a printout of my speech next to her computer, and she would reference it every time she needed to write something, like a speech.

• 1:26:01Speaker 04

  That's nice. Did you take speech classes in school?

• 1:26:03Speaker 01

  Just one. And I was just a natural. I was really good at it. It was one of the things I was just like really good at.

• 1:26:09Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:26:09Speaker 01

  I love giving speeches.

• 1:26:11Speaker 04

  I could say, do you like giving toasts?

• 1:26:13Speaker 01

  Yes. Oh my God, in college, I would literally get up and do a toast every five seconds during the pregame. They would get more emotional, the drunker and drunker and drunker and drunker I got. Are you a toaster?

• 1:26:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. I like, like, at a, at a, somebody's birthday, or a wedding, or something.

• 1:26:31Speaker 01

  Okay, pretend it's my birthday.

• 1:26:33Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:26:33Speaker 01

  Test. Oh my God, it's my birthday, and Paul wants to make a speech. Everyone, shh.

• 1:26:40Speaker 04

  There are, there...

• 1:26:48Speaker 04

  I'd like to make a toast to the man of the hour, Jake. Jake occupies a very amazing space, which is, he entertains us all. He is so funny, but there's a kindness to Jake. There's an underlying, we are simultaneously entertained by him. We laugh at him, but we are...

• 1:27:16Speaker 01

  Laugh at him?

• 1:27:17Speaker 04

  No, we are a part of Jake's journey. Jake is inclusive. Jake brings us along. There's not many people that can do that, that can carve out such a specific role with such a unique and hilarious and opinionated voice. And so I would say, all of us, let us raise our glasses to toast our friend. We are continually honored to be a part of your journey. And thank you for bringing us along. I think every one of us is so elated to be here tonight to celebrate you. I've also, I gotta leave by 10.

• 1:27:59Speaker 01

  Cheers. Thank you, guys. Thank you so much for coming. Thank you. Oh, my God. Okay, now back, everyone, please drink, please eat, have the best night. Like, I hate hosting, seriously. Host Mason.

• 1:28:13Speaker 04

  That wasn't amazing.

• 1:28:14Speaker 01

  I thought that was amazing.

• 1:28:15Speaker 04

  It was like, you know what it is? Here's the thing with a toast, and this is the same thing that the penultimate valedictorian needs to know. You need to, it's like, all right, enough that there's going to be some self-deprecation, some laughs. You can go a little far in one direction, but you always bring it back to something heartfelt.

• 1:28:33Speaker 01

  Always.

• 1:28:35Speaker 04

  And always. And it's nice if you can kind of start off and be a little abstract and funny, or whatever, and then bring it back around to like, some really, some genuine sincerity. And then, on the way out, if you can get one more little kind of treacle cutter, little joke in there to enhance the sincerity and not undermine it, then it's a winner.

• 1:29:01Speaker 01

  Well, I think you just won.

• 1:29:03Speaker 04

  Ah, I'm gonna be thinking of a toast the entire ride home and think, I should have done this, I should have.

• 1:29:09Speaker 01

  Really? I thought that was just very beautiful.

• 1:29:11Speaker 04

  Well, thank you.

• 1:29:12Speaker 01

  Well, mostly because it was about me, but I really did think it was beautiful.

• 1:29:15Speaker 04

  So you, when you were growing up, your birthdays and your birthday parties were never, you never overlapped Halloween and your birthday?

• 1:29:23Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:29:24Speaker 04

  Never had?

• 1:29:24Speaker 01

  I had a Justin Bieber themed birthday party when I was like ten.

• 1:29:28Speaker 04

  Uh huh.

• 1:29:29Speaker 01

  Um, and then I always had my birthday party at ramen restaurants. I'm actually now thinking about it twice now. Maybe three times I had it at two different ramen restaurants.

• 1:29:40Speaker 04

  Which ones?

• 1:29:41Speaker 01

  Zudo in Tribeca and Wagamama in Chelsea.

• 1:29:44Speaker 04

  Great.

• 1:29:45Speaker 01

  Great. You like ramen?

• 1:29:47Speaker 04

  I do. I love Wagamama.

• 1:29:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, Wagamama's the shit.

• 1:29:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:29:52Speaker 01

  Do you eat it when you film in London ever?

• 1:29:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:29:55Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's the shit. Chicken Gatsu Curry, fire.

• 1:29:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:29:57Speaker 01

  I don't eat that actually very often, the chicken Gatsu Curry, but I just know that's what I'm going by.

• 1:30:01Speaker 04

  Chicken ramen, more like the straight up, yeah.

• 1:30:03Speaker 01

  The spicy, the chili ramen.

• 1:30:04Speaker 04

  That's pretty good, yeah, yeah.

• 1:30:05Speaker 01

  Chili ramen's what I go for.

• 1:30:06Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:30:07Speaker 01

  Well, Paul, what did we learn today?

• 1:30:10Speaker 04

  Uh, I learned like some good shows on Netflix that I need to watch about murderers.

• 1:30:14Speaker 01

  You have to watch The Haunting of Hill House.

• 1:30:16Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:17Speaker 01

  And you, but I, right now, just for the zeitgeist of it all, should I marry a murderer? You have to.

• 1:30:22Speaker 04

  This is a thing a lot of people are watching right now. It's a big, it's a big deal.

• 1:30:26Speaker 01

  It's number one on Netflix.

• 1:30:27Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 1:30:28Speaker 01

  And it's been number one for like more than two days. So that's when you know, like people are like, and like continuing. Cause sometimes there will be a show and it'll be like number one and then it'll fall off.

• 1:30:37Speaker 04

  I think that what I like about Love on the Spectrum is it's so opposite all of that. It's just.

• 1:30:44Speaker 01

  Sweet.

• 1:30:45Speaker 04

  Sweet.

• 1:30:45Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:30:46Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:46Speaker 01

  People really ride for that show.

• 1:30:48Speaker 04

  I just think that the, the, it's, everything is so bleak. I just try and find laughs and, and uh, happiness in every single way. I just want that.

• 1:30:59Speaker 01

  And you bring that to so many people.

• 1:31:03Speaker 04

  Well, thank you.

• 1:31:04Speaker 01

  It's true.

• 1:31:06Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 1:31:07Speaker 01

  Are you bad at taking compliments?

• 1:31:10Speaker 04

  Well, clearly, I guess I, yeah.

• 1:31:13Speaker 01

  I love taking compliments. I, I, I'm the biggest. I always, I always, I say, I always have a rod out. I'm always fishing.

• 1:31:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:31:21Speaker 01

  Yeah. I look so fat today, Louise.

• 1:31:24Speaker 04

  No, you look.

• 1:31:27Speaker 01

  My face is so saggy today.

• 1:31:29Speaker 04

  What are you talking about? It's just, you look fantastic.

• 1:31:34Speaker 01

  Thank you. See? I'm always fishing. And I always catch a fish. Well, Paul.

• 1:31:44Speaker 04

  Well, Jake.

• 1:31:46Speaker 01

  Thank you for coming on Therapist.

• 1:31:48Speaker 04

  Thank you so much.

• 1:31:49Speaker 01

  Did you have fun?

• 1:31:50Speaker 04

  I did.

• 1:31:50Speaker 01

  Would you do it again?

• 1:31:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, of course.

• 1:31:53Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:31:54Speaker 04

  Are you asking if I'm gonna double dip like Glenn Powell?

• 1:31:57Speaker 01

  Yes. I'm asking if you're gonna double dip like Glenn Powell.

• 1:32:00Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 1:32:00Speaker 01

  Okay, but the next time we do this.

• 1:32:02Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:32:03Speaker 01

  Cause there will be a next time.

• 1:32:04Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:32:05Speaker 01

  In your pub.

• 1:32:06Speaker 04

  Okay. Wow. You wanna, we're gonna go there? That's gonna happen?

• 1:32:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:32:11Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:32:12Speaker 01

  I don't make plans lightly. Sometimes I do. Sometimes I don't. This isn't a light plan.

• 1:32:18Speaker 04

  All right.

• 1:32:18Speaker 01

  All right, Paul, do you wanna give a little bye pussies?

• 1:32:20Speaker 04

  Bye pussies.