Session 124: Niall Horan

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• 0:42Speaker 01

  Hi pussies. This week we have on Niall Horan. We are filming my intro on an iPhone because I do not have camera. I don't have no money here.

• 0:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, we have no equipment. We have a phone and a dream. So take us as we are. Take it or leave it.

• 0:56Speaker 01

  I have nothing of substance to tell anyone.

• 1:00Speaker 02

  I do. I went to the box on Saturday and this is honestly pretty crazy. I was chain smoking cigarettes in the club and I needed a lighter and this fabulous girl gave me a lighter. We're at lunch today. I see her and she goes, "Hi, I gave you a lighter at the box." Hello? Hi! Kismet, we were meant to be.

• 1:21Speaker 01

  I didn't make it out Saturday night.

• 1:22Speaker 02

  I will say we were drinking mango margaritas at 7:30. Like that is recipe to be so fucked up. The second I had my first sip of my mango margarita, I knew that I was gonna be disgusting.

• 1:31Speaker 01

  I said, "I have to go home. I have to go home. I have to go home." And I went home, I took myself home. Everyone was screaming.

• 1:37Speaker 02

  But then I kept calling him, being like, "Hi, are you coming back to the box?" He fell asleep. And then we go to the box.

• 1:42Speaker 01

  I woke up at 4 a.m. and they all came over.

• 1:44Speaker 02

  We are literally leaving, the lights turn on, it's 4:30. Jake FaceTimes us and we all went to his apartment.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Anywho pussies.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  Jake's going out. Jake's going away.

• 1:54Speaker 01

  Oh my god, oh my god.

• 1:56Speaker 02

  Uh huh, clear your throat for that. Big announcement.

• 1:59Speaker 01

  I am going to Monaco for the Grand Prix this Wednesday. I am so excited.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  And wanna know what he's not doing? Bringing me and I'm the biggest F1 fan ever, have been for three years.

• 2:08Speaker 01

  I do not have plus one. It is me, Stas, Alex and Stella and.

• 2:13Speaker 02

  That's my dream.

• 2:14Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's gonna be really fun.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  You guys are gonna have so much fun. Lando Norris, that's who I like.

• 2:18Speaker 01

  I know, I know. All right pussies, give it up for...

• 2:21Speaker 02

  Niall Horan!

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapists. Tonight, we have on Niall Horan.

• 2:31Speaker 03

  Hello.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  Hi.

• 2:32Speaker 03

  How's it going? I like this.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  We were kinda kicking it back there for a minute before.

• 2:37Speaker 03

  Oh, it was funny.

• 2:37Speaker 01

  Talking about a lot.

• 2:39Speaker 03

  You are hilarious. Oh my god.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  Stop.

• 2:42Speaker 03

  I get nervous for these things.

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Do you really?

• 2:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, cuz I'm like, alright, well, he's really funny, so I have to try and like, step up the game here, but...

• 2:49Speaker 01

  You think I'm funny?

• 2:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, hilarious.

• 2:51Speaker 01

  Really? No, he was laughing, you guys. He was laughing, pretty hard.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  It was hilarious.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  I kept, I was like, oop, and that one hit too. And I kept hitting. And I was like, oop, alright.

• 3:01Speaker 03

  You must get that a lot.

• 3:02Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, no, no, actually, people say the opposite.

• 3:06Speaker 03

  Really?

• 3:06Speaker 01

  Some people do, yeah.

• 3:08Speaker 03

  Why, why are you so mean spirited?

• 3:10Speaker 01

  Oh, you know what? Why?

• 3:12Speaker 03

  You know, I am one of those people though, that, um, this is not, cuz right, I'm not saying I'm doing this to you, but I am one of those people that will, like, if someone says something and it might not hit to the room, I'll just laugh to make them feel better.

• 3:26Speaker 03

  But I didn't do that to you.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  Uh huh.

• 3:28Speaker 03

  A caveat.

• 3:28Speaker 01

  You swear?

• 3:29Speaker 03

  I swear.

• 3:30Speaker 01

  On what?

• 3:31Speaker 03

  My granny.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Wow. Is she alive?

• 3:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 3:34Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  This is going well.

• 3:37Speaker 01

  Okay, okay.

• 3:40Speaker 01

  So...

• 3:40Speaker 03

  I love your setup.

• 3:41Speaker 01

  You like, yeah, yeah, it's great, right?

• 3:43Speaker 03

  I've seen it, obviously, on camera, on YouTube and stuff, so, but...

• 3:46Speaker 01

  Oh yes, well, we're on Netflix now.

• 3:47Speaker 03

  I actually was scrolling through Netflix last night and it's...

• 3:50Speaker 01

  No!

• 3:51Speaker 03

  I seen you come up and you were...

• 3:52Speaker 01

  Swear? What are you looking for?

• 3:53Speaker 03

  You were looking all studly in...

• 3:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 3:55Speaker 03

  Your photo, you know?

• 3:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was, my hands are... It was the whole thing.

• 4:01Speaker 01

  What were you looking for on Netflix? What are you watching right now?

• 4:03Speaker 03

  Oh, what was I trying to watch? I don't know, we were looking for, we didn't know where Wuthering Heights was.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Is it out yet, on streamers?

• 4:10Speaker 03

  I was trying to find it.

• 4:11Speaker 01

  I haven't seen it yet.

• 4:12Speaker 03

  No, my, my girlfriends, well, they went to see it last week and she said it was the best and everyone's, it's like a 50/50 divided, divisive movie right now.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Oh, is that true?

• 4:22Speaker 03

  Because all the people are saying that it's nothing like the books.

• 4:25Speaker 01

  What's the book about?

• 4:25Speaker 03

  There was a book.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  Of Wuthering Heights. Who wrote it?

• 4:28Speaker 03

  I have no idea. Though, you're asking the wrong guy.

• 4:30Speaker 00

  Wrong tag.

• 4:31Speaker 01

  Who?

• 4:32Speaker 03

  Not even sure.

• 4:33Speaker 01

  You know what? And it doesn't really matter.

• 4:35Speaker 03

  No, it kinda doesn't. I'm good, but that's what I was looking for. I was looking to find that and I ended up falling asleep five minutes into it, so I didn't even see the film.

• 4:41Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  So that was a waste of...

• 4:42Speaker 01

  Do you watch a lot of movies?

• 4:43Speaker 03

  Not, not a big movie person, actually.

• 4:45Speaker 01

  TV guy?

• 4:46Speaker 03

  More of a, like a true crime documentary... Kind of basically that's it. I don't know what that says about me, but yeah, I do love a true crime doc.

• 4:55Speaker 01

  What's your favorite true crime doc?

• 4:57Speaker 03

  The Jinx.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  I knew you were gonna say that. Did you watch it in real time?

• 5:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  Me too.

• 5:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, and it was a killer because, well, there we go. But yeah, watching that in real time, waiting for the next episode was.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  Well, there's no better true crime documentary than The Jinx. I've never seen a better one.

• 5:14Speaker 03

  Well, I just, I can't believe how lucky they got. As documentary makers go, you set out to make a documentary and then it turns into a completely different thing.

• 5:23Speaker 01

  Well, he admitted to the murder.

• 5:25Speaker 03

  It was absolutely nuts.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  Did you guys watch The Jinx?

• 5:27Speaker 00

  No, and I've gotta watch it.

• 5:28Speaker 01

  Well, he admits to the murder at the end of it.

• 5:30Speaker 00

  Well, why did you just tell me that?

• 5:32Speaker 01

  It's a thing.

• 5:32Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 5:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. And it was a big, it was very big drama the next week because do you remember, like, they were like, did they keep this from the FBI? It was very big drama, very big.

• 5:42Speaker 03

  Was the drama on to the documentary makers?

• 5:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were like, how did you guys, like, is this legal that you guys kept this from the authorities in order to create good television?

• 5:53Speaker 03

  Right, okay, well.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  I appreciated the good television.

• 5:57Speaker 03

  It was good though. The whole Beverly Drive thing, when he was writing and they got the spelling wrong. Do you remember that? Where he wrote like Beverly Drive but didn't put in or added an E or something like that.

• 6:09Speaker 01

  Oh, you're like, you're in, you're in it.

• 6:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, that was amazing. It was, it's the best true crime documentary ever.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  Did you watch Manosphere with Louis Theroux?

• 6:18Speaker 03

  Crazy.

• 6:19Speaker 01

  Crazy. I couldn't get five minutes into it because I was high. I said, I can't believe. I was watching five minutes and I said, I can't do this. It's just not my journey right now.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  But to be fair, I've been writing the thick of all the promotional stuff at the moment, so I haven't seen much.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  How's that going?

• 6:33Speaker 03

  It's good. Yeah, it's like when you turn off the engines after the end of a tour, it takes a while to start the engine back up again. Because like, you spend a year in the studio. So I finished a tour in 24. And then end of twenty four and then went into the studio like start of last year. And he just, studio is easy. It's just like, you know, writing a few songs, going in, doing a bit of recording. And then when you, you know, when you hand the album over, it's, the engines get started and it's like promotional back to back to back. And then you know that it's inevitably going for a tour. So it's just trying to get, get your brain switched on again.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Are you tired?

• 7:13Speaker 03

  A little bit.

• 7:14Speaker 01

  That's okay.

• 7:15Speaker 03

  Do I look tired?

• 7:15Speaker 01

  No, no, I just feel the way you're describing it, like I, I would crash out.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, you're, well, you're Netflix now, so.

• 7:22Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:22Speaker 03

  You're gonna be promoting.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  I hope so.

• 7:24Speaker 03

  Well, this is your promotion, I guess.

• 7:26Speaker 01

  You know, I saw you perform Heaven for the first time ever at the Capitol Showcase.

• 7:32Speaker 03

  No way.

• 7:33Speaker 01

  Yes, I was there.

• 7:33Speaker 03

  A little acoustic thing.

• 7:35Speaker 01

  Yes, yes.

• 7:35Speaker 03

  How funny.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  I know, I said, oh.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  That is crazy. That was, when was that? That was like three or.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  Twenty twenty three.

• 7:41Speaker 03

  Wow. Oh my god.

• 7:42Speaker 01

  So you like to golf, no?

• 7:44Speaker 03

  I do like to golf, yeah.

• 7:45Speaker 01

  Like, what's your favorite part about golfing?

• 7:47Speaker 03

  Uh, I like the challenge. I like the peace.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  What's the challenge?

• 7:54Speaker 03

  The challenge is just trying to get good at it. And you know, the, the great thing about golf is you never actually get good at it.

• 8:01Speaker 01

  Except Tiger Woods.

• 8:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, there's a few of them that are pretty good. No, but like for the, for the most part, I think like sixty million people in the world or something play golf. And I, I'd say like one percent of them are actually good. Um, so the rest of us just end up suffering. But it's like you hit one bad shot, it turn, you say, I'm never playing again. The next shot you hit is the best shot ever.

• 8:24Speaker 01

  What makes a good shot?

• 8:26Speaker 03

  I don't know, the quality of the strike, when the club hits the ball, the flight path, where it lands, obviously. Cause it needs to get closer to the hole. Um, and yeah, the good shots make you like, all right, I wanna play more.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  And how long have you been doing this for?

• 8:41Speaker 03

  I've been doing it since, for too fucking long. Uh, I've been, I've been playing since I was like seven or eight.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  What?

• 8:48Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  I did not know golf was a thing in Ireland.

• 8:50Speaker 03

  It's one of the homes of golf. Yeah.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  Well.

• 8:56Speaker 03

  No, it's like Ireland and Scotland, the game was originated in Scotland. Obviously Ireland's very close. Um, and we have amazing golf courses and people from all over the world travel to play golf in Ireland.

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  And Scotland and Ireland are like sisters.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  We would be, we're not that far apart, but we would say that we were, the kinds of people were very similar.

• 9:17Speaker 01

  Got it.

• 9:18Speaker 03

  Like the Scottish and the Irish are very, very similar.

• 9:20Speaker 01

  Do you miss Ireland?

• 9:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, I, I, like, I feel like the, you know, when you're a kid and you're like, I can't wait to get out of here.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 9:28Speaker 03

  Like, I, I'm, I'm for the bigger world. And then the older you get, you're like, actually, no, I just wanna go home.

• 9:35Speaker 01

  Right.

• 9:36Speaker 03

  So I, I try and get home like, maybe three or four times a year, but I just, with the way work is, I just need to be.

• 9:43Speaker 01

  That's a lot.

• 9:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, I mean, yeah, I suppose it is, but not, not for, it's only ever for a couple of days here and there. I, I need to be, like, I need to be in LA a lot, I need to be in New York a lot, I need to be in London, so, and I've lived in London for 16 years or something. Have you spent any time in London?

• 10:01Speaker 01

  I love London.

• 10:02Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 10:03Speaker 01

  I think it's great. I have never spent like a quality amount of time there, though.

• 10:07Speaker 03

  You'd love it. If you like, you're from New York, and do you like, do you still like, when you go to New York, are you still like, this is, I miss this place, or?

• 10:15Speaker 01

  It depends how I feel. I think I have a mood disorder, so it really depends how I feel. Like, when I'm in New York, I miss LA. When I'm in LA, I miss New York. Right now, I miss London.

• 10:25Speaker 03

  Right.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  Cause I was just back from New York, so I don't miss New York.

• 10:27Speaker 03

  Right, okay.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  But I don't wanna be in LA. So right now, I miss, I, I'm always unhappy.

• 10:34Speaker 03

  Really?

• 10:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm always unhappy.

• 10:37Speaker 03

  You like to complain?

• 10:39Speaker 01

  Do I like to complain? Do you like to complain?

• 10:42Speaker 03

  That's how it started. Um, do I like to, yeah.

• 10:46Speaker 01

  Well, what are you, Matt?

• 10:47Speaker 03

  Well, I kinda like, I'm, I'm more of a complainer to, to try and be funny. Like, there's a comedian in the UK called Carol Pelkington, and his whole bit is just that, he just has this deadpan moany face and like, just complains about absolutely everything, but probably means none of it.

• 11:04Speaker 01

  At the end of the day, I sit down, I smoke a joint, and I'm like, oh god, it wasn't that serious. Like, it really wasn't that serious. I think what it is, is I'm bored.

• 11:13Speaker 03

  Really?

• 11:13Speaker 01

  I'm very bored.

• 11:15Speaker 03

  Why are you bored? You've got the biggest fucking podcast on the planet.

• 11:18Speaker 01

  Now, shut up. You know, you know, one of my biggest temper tantrums when I was a child ever, ever, was when I was trying to get tickets to a One Direction concert. And I was on Ticketmaster and they sold out. And so that was the day I discovered what StubHub was. Where tickets are 10x the price. And I'm-

• 11:41Speaker 03

  What did you do?

• 11:42Speaker 01

  My mom was like, "It's okay, Jake. We can get them on StubHub." And I said, "No, but the tickets I want, you won't get for me now because they're so expensive." And I, then I wasn't allowed to see One Direction.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  Ever. You've never actually seen it?

• 11:55Speaker 01

  No, I've never, never.

• 11:57Speaker 03

  Where were you trying to go? MetLife or something?

• 12:00Speaker 01

  It was the tour you guys did after your first album.

• 12:04Speaker 03

  Alright, so the amphitheater thing.

• 12:06Speaker 01

  And you guys performed at my friend's bat mitzvah.

• 12:09Speaker 03

  What?

• 12:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 12:11Speaker 03

  Where?

• 12:12Speaker 01

  London.

• 12:13Speaker 03

  I know the one, because I think we only ever performed at one. That is the most random thing of all time.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Yeah, did you guys have fun?

• 12:21Speaker 03

  I'd never been at a bat mitzvah, funnily enough.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  No, she said, she's like, "We got so lucky. We got them right before."

• 12:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, literally. As we came off the show, we did like a run of like club shows and like one bat mitzvah.

• 12:33Speaker 01

  Do you relate to K-pop groups?

• 12:35Speaker 03

  Do I relate to them?

• 12:36Speaker 01

  Like, when you see like how K-pop groups are formulated, are you like OMG, like, I feel that? Like, that's what we went through on?

• 12:44Speaker 03

  I don't know. I, I'd- Well, none of our bit was like super choreographed or-

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Right.

• 12:51Speaker 03

  Or anything like that. So they're very different. Each generation seems like it's got like boy bands, but they're all kind of different to each other. Like, we didn't wear all white outfits and do routines and things like, say, N'Sync or Backstreet Ditter or whatever. Uh, we can, that, we just kind of walked around.

• 13:09Speaker 01

  Yeah, it worked.

• 13:10Speaker 03

  It worked. We walked around that stage. Um, and the K-pop thing is kind of- I guess more structured or?

• 13:18Speaker 01

  Very structured.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  But like they look like athletes.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  They are.

• 13:22Speaker 03

  Like when you watch BTS dance. You're like, what?

• 13:25Speaker 01

  Can't take your eyes off of them.

• 13:26Speaker 03

  You're like, honestly, I have no idea to how to do anything you're doing, but it's kind of crazy what you're doing. It's like, it's pretty intense, but it's amazing.

• 13:35Speaker 01

  You, you, so you like documentaries?

• 13:38Speaker 03

  Love them.

• 13:38Speaker 01

  I'm watching, coffee, I'm watching, uh, I'm watching, uh, the Cat's Eye documentary right now.

• 13:46Speaker 03

  I haven't seen it.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  It's very interesting.

• 13:48Speaker 03

  Really?

• 13:49Speaker 01

  It's very interesting.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  Why? What's going on?

• 13:52Speaker 01

  Like it's, it's a really insane boot camp that they went through.

• 13:55Speaker 03

  Sorry, is this product placement or can I drink this?

• 13:57Speaker 01

  No, drink it. You know who drinks that?

• 14:00Speaker 03

  Who?

• 14:00Speaker 01

  Do you remember the guy who did, are you like online? Oh, there was this guy that did the most insane morning routine and he went like super viral and he had like 10 Saratoga waters a day. And like his, his, no, but it was like 402, like, dude, just anyone, does you, do you?

• 14:17Speaker 04

  Ashton Hall, yeah.

• 14:18Speaker 01

  Ashton Hall?

• 14:20Speaker 03

  I need to.

• 14:20Speaker 04

  He would like dip his face in the Saratoga water.

• 14:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. He would pour the Saratoga water in and, and that's how I know what Saratoga is, but it was, it's worked. It's great. Is that your favorite water?

• 14:31Speaker 03

  No, I just seen it there and I was, I actually thought it would have been product placement as part of, as part of the Netflix deal.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  But I'll tell you, what is product placement? Actually, is this poppy? Is this product placement?

• 14:41Speaker 03

  Poppy? What's poppy?

• 14:44Speaker 01

  What?

• 14:45Speaker 03

  Please don't, don't shame me.

• 14:47Speaker 01

  But you're lying though.

• 14:48Speaker 03

  I live under a rock. I'm not gonna like.

• 14:50Speaker 01

  But you've. They were just acquired by Pepsi for $2 billion.

• 14:55Speaker 03

  Wow, I love poppy.

• 14:58Speaker 03

  I love poppy so much.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  I'm just saying like you've never had a poppy ever in your life. Never, never, never.

• 15:03Speaker 03

  No, you're gonna let me have one or?

• 15:04Speaker 01

  Oh, okay. You like Shirley Temple? Wait, oh my God, I've never met someone that's never had a poppy before.

• 15:09Speaker 03

  Really?

• 15:10Speaker 01

  Ever. Okay, so.

• 15:11Speaker 03

  I definitely live under a rock.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Bring out the flavors. Bring out the flavors. Bring them out. Oh my God, I'm so excited for you.

• 15:18Speaker 03

  I'm gonna have a Super Bowl commercial.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  You, I did.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  Did you?

• 15:21Speaker 01

  See for poppy.

• 15:22Speaker 03

  No, you did not.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Yes, I did.

• 15:24Speaker 03

  Next year, me and you.

• 15:25Speaker 01

  Yeah. Don't play with me.

• 15:29Speaker 01

  I'm serious. I'll pitch it tomorrow.

• 15:31Speaker 03

  Imagine I've never even tasted this and I've already given myself a Super Bowl commercial.

• 15:35Speaker 01

  Okay, so, okay, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme, gimme. Okay, so I have a Shirley right here.

• 15:39Speaker 03

  What is it? Like a fruity, sparkly water?

• 15:42Speaker 01

  It's a Better For You Soda.

• 15:43Speaker 03

  This is the launch of the new product. Is that the Christmas version?

• 15:47Speaker 01

  This is the Christmas version. It's called Cranberry Fizz.

• 15:49Speaker 03

  Right. I can try that.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  This is Shirley Temple.

• 15:52Speaker 03

  Shirley Temple?

• 15:54Speaker 01

  And this is Strawberry Lemon.

• 15:55Speaker 03

  Can I try the Cranberry Fizz, please?

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:57Speaker 03

  Okay, thanks.

• 16:00Speaker 03

  Poppy are having a great time now.

• 16:02Speaker 01

  It's pretty amazing. They sell this only during Christmas.

• 16:06Speaker 03

  Imagine if they sold it year round with like...

• 16:08Speaker 01

  They can't because it's so popular.

• 16:09Speaker 03

  It's a Better For You soft drink.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  You like it?

• 16:12Speaker 03

  It's got prebiotics. Oh yeah, I forgot to tell you if I liked it or not. Let me check again.

• 16:17Speaker 01

  You can be honest.

• 16:18Speaker 03

  I actually do.

• 16:19Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's amazing, right?

• 16:20Speaker 03

  We've got Saratoga and Poppy well covered now.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  I can't believe I just took your Poppy virginity.

• 16:27Speaker 01

  I'm really shocked. I've really never met somebody that hasn't tried one before.

• 16:29Speaker 03

  I swear, I've never even heard of it.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  So you don't leave the house much?

• 16:32Speaker 03

  No, not really. No, no. Has it made it over to the UK? Because that's even more embarrassing.

• 16:37Speaker 01

  Poppy is global.

• 16:38Speaker 03

  Oh, right, we're global. We're going global, baby.

• 16:41Speaker 01

  I love the... Well, okay, do you know what I love about the UK? That store, Marks and Spencer's?

• 16:45Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:47Speaker 03

  We were only talking about this yesterday.

• 16:48Speaker 01

  What's your favorite thing to get from there, food-wise?

• 16:50Speaker 03

  They do like a cheese, like a piece of cheese, long kind of rectangular piece of cheese wrapped in like serrano ham or something like that. And they also do these like chorizo, again chorizo wrapped in

• 17:07Speaker 03

  cheese wrapped in chorizo as well.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  That's like right up her alley.

• 17:10Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah? They do like...

• 17:12Speaker 01

  She loves like meat sticks.

• 17:13Speaker 03

  We call it like picky bits. So if you're going into like, into the store and there's like a...

• 17:18Speaker 01

  Picky bits?

• 17:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, picky bits. Just like, I'm not having a full meal here. I'm just trying to get a few picky bits. You know, so some just pick at... We call them picky bits.

• 17:26Speaker 01

  Oh, I've never heard that. Is that like an Irish thing?

• 17:28Speaker 03

  No, I feel like it's just like, I don't, I actually don't even know what it is. Maybe I just made it up.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 17:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, so it's snacks.

• 17:37Speaker 01

  Yeah. It's a picky bit.

• 17:39Speaker 03

  I would think snack is like... Sweet or like chips or something like that. I would think, when I think snacks, I think something like that. And America is a completely different thing.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  Right.

• 17:49Speaker 03

  Where I'm thinking savory, like cheese wrapped in a ham.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  What's your favorite Irish food?

• 17:54Speaker 03

  Favorite Irish food?

• 17:55Speaker 01

  I don't really know what they're known for.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  Yeah, either do I. I know, um, my whole upbringing was like meat and potatoes. It was very like, very like, we do a stew. Have you ever had like a-

• 18:06Speaker 01

  I love stew.

• 18:07Speaker 03

  Good Irish stew, like, with like a piece of beef or lamb.

• 18:12Speaker 01

  Like beef stragganoff?

• 18:13Speaker 03

  Uh, not really. More like gravy-esque.

• 18:18Speaker 01

  Ooh, like, uh, gumbo?

• 18:21Speaker 03

  Not like gumbo. I suppose the Irish version of gumbo. Gumbo's not great.

• 18:26Speaker 01

  No.

• 18:27Speaker 03

  There's a few, there's quite a few things in this country I can't wrap my head around.

• 18:29Speaker 01

  You don't like gumbo?

• 18:31Speaker 03

  No.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  You know, one time I had gumbo four times in 24 hours.

• 18:34Speaker 03

  Really? Where were you?

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Nola.

• 18:37Speaker 03

  Were you high?

• 18:38Speaker 01

  I, nope.

• 18:39Speaker 03

  No.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  No, I wasn't. How sad is that? I wasn't even smoking at the time. And I had it for breakfast. I had it for lunch. I had it for dinner. And I had it three times in one day. And then the next morning, I was like, well, I can't leave without having it one more time. And I had it again. It's my favorite food in the entire world.

• 18:54Speaker 03

  Really?

• 18:54Speaker 01

  Yes. What are you not like about gumbo?

• 18:56Speaker 03

  What's it consist of again?

• 18:57Speaker 01

  It's like thick.

• 18:59Speaker 03

  It's like a chowder, no?

• 19:00Speaker 01

  Yeah. And like there's sausage. I don't really fuck with it when there's like crawfish or shrimp. I like, just like sausage and chicken and over a bed of jasmine rice.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  You can have it with rice. Or maybe I'm thinking of the wrong thing.

• 19:12Speaker 01

  What are you thinking of?

• 19:13Speaker 03

  I don't know what the fuck I'm thinking of. Uh, I thought we were, I thought it was in the chowder world, like a, is it not like a, like a-

• 19:19Speaker 01

  It is.

• 19:19Speaker 03

  What's the cream of your chowder?

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Clam chowder?

• 19:22Speaker 03

  New England, is it?

• 19:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, New England, yeah.

• 19:23Speaker 03

  I thought it was more of a New England chowder-y type thing that had some other weird stuff in it.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  It, that is what it is.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  Oh, right. Maybe I do like it.

• 19:30Speaker 01

  But it's like red.

• 19:31Speaker 03

  Maybe I love it.

• 19:32Speaker 01

  No, it doesn't sound, you're backpedaling.

• 19:35Speaker 01

  You're backpedaling.

• 19:37Speaker 03

  I've done well on this so far.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  Wait, I'm having to come up with you.

• 19:40Speaker 03

  Any endorsement coming my way, now I'm gonna have a.

• 19:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, well, we're doing a Super Bowl commercial for Poppy together.

• 19:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, here we go.

• 19:47Speaker 01

  What are you therapist about today?

• 19:49Speaker 03

  Therapist about today?

• 19:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, doesn't seem like much. You seem pretty jolly.

• 19:52Speaker 03

  No, I'm a pretty, I'm pretty chilled, to be honest with you.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  What pissed me off today? That's the LA traffic is a fucking disaster.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  What'd you listen to on the way over here?

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Um, what did I listen to? We actually went in silence for once.

• 20:07Speaker 01

  Really?

• 20:07Speaker 03

  We, we usually listen to music all the time, but you know, when you're in the car so much and you're just like, all right, could do with a half an hour with the just quiet. I know that's not a great answer, but that's the truth. We actually just sat there and.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  You were angry about your journey to come see me today?

• 20:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Are you like?

• 20:24Speaker 03

  I take it all back.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  Well, thank God.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  I'm having a great time.

• 20:27Speaker 01

  I'm having a great time too.

• 20:29Speaker 03

  Hey, absolutely. We just covered the whole world.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  We really did.

• 20:33Speaker 03

  We've covered everything. We haven't even started.

• 20:35Speaker 01

  Is Ed Sheeran's song Castle on a Hill about Ireland?

• 20:38Speaker 03

  No.

• 20:40Speaker 03

  I love how you pivot from question to question. It's cracking me up. I, uh, no, it's not. It's about a castle in his village. I will tell you this. We went to his wedding. And he got married near his, where the village where he's from, brought up and then lives in now. And Sam Smith and I drove down and we stayed in, uh, we stayed in like a, a hotel above a pub in the middle of this village. Very cute quintessential English village. And the two of us were getting into the car and we looked up and there was this big castle on the hill and we had a whole revelation that, that's the fucking castle on the hill.

• 21:20Speaker 01

  Oh, it's real?

• 21:21Speaker 03

  Oh, it's real. When I was six years old, I broke my leg. Yeah, you know.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  Keep going.

• 21:27Speaker 03

  The castle on the hill. Yeah.

• 21:29Speaker 01

  Roll down the.

• 21:29Speaker 03

  And we were like, fuck, that's the castle.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Is there a place to roll down the hill?

• 21:33Speaker 03

  I think so.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, where he broke his leg?

• 21:36Speaker 03

  He broke his leg when he was six years old.

• 21:38Speaker 01

  It really is.

• 21:39Speaker 03

  With his brothers and his friends. Yeah, yeah.

• 21:41Speaker 01

  Is that your favorite Ed Sheeran song?

• 21:42Speaker 03

  Yeah, I do love it. Yeah.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  I love that one too. I think that's my favorite.

• 21:45Speaker 03

  What other songs do you like about Sheeran's?

• 21:46Speaker 01

  Uh, Tenerife Sea.

• 21:47Speaker 03

  Love Tenerife Sea. We have the same taste in Ed Sheeran.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I think I said it wrong though.

• 21:51Speaker 03

  Ten, ten, what did you say?

• 21:52Speaker 01

  Tenerife.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  Tenerife, Tenerife.

• 21:55Speaker 01

  Supermarket Flowers always hits.

• 21:57Speaker 03

  Yeah. So you like, you like the earlier Ed Sheeran stuff?

• 22:00Speaker 01

  I love, you know what I actually really like, Eyes Closed?

• 22:04Speaker 03

  Good tune.

• 22:05Speaker 01

  Really good one. And I really like, what, uh, Old Phone? Have you heard Old Phone? Great, great. I'm pretty sure you were in some of the promo for that.

• 22:12Speaker 03

  He was, yeah.

• 22:13Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 22:14Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. When he pulled that photo out, I was like, Jesus, because that was probably the last period where he had his phone. And we were in Vegas. That was him. When I think about that night, it was the most ra- I think I was there for like my, it was either, because I went like three years in a row. I went from my 21st, my 22nd, for some weird reason. And then we went back. Maybe it was around one of the Billboard Awards or something like that.

• 22:39Speaker 03

  And we're in a nightclub, um, and I think, I don't know who's DJ, maybe it was like Diplo or Chainsmokers or something like that. But the, uh, I was up on, all of a sudden got so drunk that I was up on the DJ boot. This is the least me thing of all time. Up on a DJ boot with like expensive bottles of champagne with Ed Sheeran. Uh, Ed's got like a cigarette hanging out of his mouth and we're spraying the crowd with champagne. And Lil Jon is just on the microphone going, like making Lil Jon type noises.

• 23:11Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:12Speaker 03

  Yeah. And I was just like, it was the most sobering thing. I was drunk and then all of a sudden I was like, what the fuck is going on?

• 23:20Speaker 01

  Right.

• 23:20Speaker 03

  Got the Chainsmokers DJ in here playing EDM bangers. And you got Ed Sheeran, Lil Jon and me up on the fucking DJ booth, spraying people with champagne. It sounds like the start of a joke.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  But was it like the?

• 23:34Speaker 03

  Ed Sheeran, Niall Horan and Lil Jon walk into a bar.

• 23:37Speaker 01

  What happens?

• 23:37Speaker 03

  What happens? Apparently that.

• 23:39Speaker 01

  Did you, was it sobering in the sense that you were like, oh, I don't, I'm having anxiety? Or was it sobering in the sense of like, wow, my life is so fun and cool?

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Fun and cool. I'm like, why am I here? Like what? Like this is nuts. And I'm obviously, I'd known Ed for a long time, but the whole fact that we were up there with Lil Jon and just like nightclub in Vegas just feels so far removed from my upbringing and the way I generally live my life.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 24:03Speaker 03

  And I was just up there going, this is fucking crazy. Uh, but yeah, I don't know if it's, that's not the first chapter of my book, by the way. I can tell better stories than that, but it is pretty nuts.

• 24:13Speaker 01

  Do you remember like feeling that way when you were doing X Factor? Or do you, or were you so in it that after is when it all hit?

• 24:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think that like, I've just. Been, I'm one of those people that I'm just happy to be there.

• 24:29Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 24:30Speaker 03

  Like, I was just the whole time, I never really like took it serious, but I wasn't like trying to be super serious. I was trying to enjoy it. I've always tried to enjoy like every single thing that I do and just kind of take things with a pinch of salt and let it all kind of just go on by. Um, yeah, we, I think my whole career, I've just been walking around just going, this is wild and how the hell did I ever get to this point? Um, which makes it more fun and interesting, I suppose, instead of just been walking around going, yeah, I'm meant to be here. And, um, I also think like, there is a part to play with the, the Irish upbringing of like, I'm sure yours is kind of similar in New York, we're kind of, we're a bit hardier and you're not allowed to kind of get above your station.

• 25:15Speaker 01

  What do you mean by that?

• 25:17Speaker 03

  Like, if you get any way ahead of yourself, there's always something.

• 25:20Speaker 01

  You get humbled.

• 25:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, you get humbled. You don't get to, you don't get long to act like a dickhead. People will get you, put you back in your place.

• 25:29Speaker 01

  Do you remember a time that that happened to you?

• 25:32Speaker 03

  Um, not necessarily, because I think it's just in my, in my bones to not.

• 25:38Speaker 01

  You humble yourself?

• 25:39Speaker 03

  Kinda, yeah. I'm sure there are like day to day things, like we were talking about where you complain about the most minimal stuff and then go, you look at yourself and you go, what the fuck was I doing?

• 25:48Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:49Speaker 03

  So, I, by the way.

• 25:51Speaker 01

  Wow. Right?

• 25:53Speaker 03

  Cause I'm not like a, I'm not like a soft drink person.

• 25:56Speaker 01

  Right?

• 25:56Speaker 03

  I drink like four or five liters of water a day.

• 25:59Speaker 01

  Do you really?

• 25:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  Oh, I need to get on that. Four or five liters, are you okay?

• 26:03Speaker 03

  That's where I got the bags under my eyes from drinking four liters of water a day.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  You actually don't have bags under your eyes.

• 26:08Speaker 03

  I've got these like, you know, the crow's feet.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  What's it?

• 26:12Speaker 03

  You know, these things.

• 26:13Speaker 01

  Do you get Botox ever?

• 26:14Speaker 03

  No, never.

• 26:14Speaker 01

  Never?

• 26:15Speaker 03

  I don't think it will either.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  I got Botox the other day.

• 26:18Speaker 03

  Did you have, go like this?

• 26:19Speaker 01

  No, it's not. It's in my neck, so I can't, like, I can't, that's the farthest I can do it.

• 26:24Speaker 03

  Why'd you get it in your neck?

• 26:25Speaker 01

  Because Louise brought me to get an Aqua Gold facial.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  Right.

• 26:29Speaker 01

  And so I was like, what is this? And they were like, we're injecting Botox into your face for clear skin, so it's not like filler.

• 26:36Speaker 01

  I was like, ah, you know, I've really been interested in master of botox. Master of botox is the one in your jaw.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Right.

• 26:42Speaker 01

  And they were like,

• 26:42Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 26:43Speaker 01

  We have that. And I was like, really? And they were like, yeah, do you want it? And I was like, I, yeah, I guess. It was Luisa's friend from college did the injecting.

• 26:54Speaker 03

  And was this your first time you haven't bought?

• 26:55Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, it's like getting a spray tan. You ever got a spray tan?

• 26:58Speaker 03

  Years ago, did it for, for the X Factor one time, actually, funnily enough. We got like the whole holes down. Oh, my God.

• 27:05Speaker 01

  You guys got spray tanned?

• 27:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, you don't see the color of us?

• 27:08Speaker 01

  No, I did.

• 27:09Speaker 03

  On the TV?

• 27:09Speaker 01

  I did, I did.

• 27:10Speaker 03

  Like your shirt.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  I know. What, what, what episode was it for?

• 27:16Speaker 01

  Finale?

• 27:16Speaker 03

  I think at the very start, maybe. And then we just kept getting topped up. So it got more tanned every week.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Do you have a favorite One Direction song?

• 27:26Speaker 03

  Do I have a favorite One Direction song?

• 27:29Speaker 03

  I have loads of favorite One Direction songs. Um, I love Fireproof.

• 27:33Speaker 01

  Great one.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  So you're a big One D fan?

• 27:36Speaker 01

  Yes. Yes, it was, I was trying to make it my first concert and my mom and I got into a really big fight and I couldn't go. I was really upset.

• 27:42Speaker 03

  How old are you?

• 27:45Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:47Speaker 03

  Twenty six.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 27:52Speaker 03

  Did I get that right?

• 27:53Speaker 01

  Yes, you did.

• 27:54Speaker 03

  Fuck off.

• 27:55Speaker 01

  Swear.

• 27:55Speaker 03

  Oh, nailed it. Um, so you were, so you know, if I'm starting naming, if I start naming deep cuts, you're gonna know.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  Yes, Diana.

• 28:04Speaker 03

  Right, okay, all right, you know.

• 28:05Speaker 01

  No, I know.

• 28:05Speaker 03

  Okay, that's, cause that's deep.

• 28:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, I was on LimeWire.

• 28:09Speaker 03

  Oh, you?

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Yes, in, in the computer lab at school. I was really tapped in. I was really, really, really tapped in.

• 28:16Speaker 03

  So when you were meant to be doing work in the computer lab?

• 28:18Speaker 01

  I mean, I was like in sixth grade, so like, what work could I have been doing? But yes, I was very tapped in. It was right when everything took off. Obviously Night Changes is my favorite one.

• 28:25Speaker 03

  Yeah, Night Changes is probably the best song, song. If you were to like break down how to write the, you know,

• 28:31Speaker 01

  You wrote that, no? You guys all partook in writing that?

• 28:35Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  What do you find most different about writing for a group versus writing for yourself?

• 28:40Speaker 03

  Um, well, you've got complete lyrical, say what you want. Same with the music side of things, cause when you've got like four or five, you know, you've got five different personalities trying to like pitch in with their, you know, their mu, their music taste, their, what you wanna say and what you don't wanna say. The sound of the record, you know, that's, that's why it was so good that we actually were able to combine in that way. Um, I just, I like doing the, cause when I pick up a guitar, I naturally do something. So I, you know, if it's for me, I find it very easy to just go, here it is. This is what I want to say. This is how it's going to sound. Uh, very, two very different things, but both as enjoyable. I just like, I used to just love writing with the boys.

• 29:23Speaker 03

  Cause it felt like a jam and felt like a, like a high school band type thing where we were all just sitting around shouting lyrics at each other and melodies and ideas and things. And it worked.

• 29:34Speaker 01

  How did Night Changes come about? Do you remember who had the original idea for that?

• 29:39Speaker 03

  Well, the, the original idea came from a guy called Jamie Scott, who also wrote, um, also wrote Story of My Life. He, John Ryan and Julian Bonetta, they had this basic idea. And then we came in and like started writing the verses and stuff with them. But yeah, it's such good, like it's, it's probably the best song.

• 30:00Speaker 01

  Or, um, One Thing.

• 30:03Speaker 03

  What, do you like one? Oh, you're early, early. Do you like one?

• 30:05Speaker 01

  One Thing was always my favorite over, I loved What Makes You Beautiful, but One Thing really did it for me. The music video, what was the music video again? You were all like?

• 30:14Speaker 03

  It was in London. We were kind of going around the city.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  It was, you were on a, a bus, weren't you?

• 30:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, we were on a bus and then we were in a park, which I actually ended up living around the corner from. And anytime I'd go and get my coffee, I'd be like, there's the.

• 30:27Speaker 01

  That's where you found them.

• 30:29Speaker 03

  We were on Trafalgar Square playing the song.

• 30:33Speaker 01

  And did you film those videos before everything took off? Those videos are what made you guys take off besides being on X Factor, right?

• 30:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, we, when did we, so we finished the show in December 2010 and then just like went straight to the studio. We were in Sweden a lot, basically spending as much time as we could there with like Rami Yacoub and Savvin Khetche and Carl Falk, these big writers. And they, they brought What Makes You Beautiful to the table. And then we just started, we filmed the video at Malibu.

• 31:02Speaker 01

  For that.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  And then we, what was the second? Then one thing was second, maybe? Yeah. You tell me.

• 31:08Speaker 01

  I know.

• 31:09Speaker 03

  It's been a while. And then we just shoot, shoot videos as you go, but they were always really good, the videos.

• 31:14Speaker 01

  Fire. Story of my life video, fire.

• 31:17Speaker 03

  Yeah, the ideas were always like amazing.

• 31:19Speaker 01

  You guys have like creative input into that or were you just pitched ideas?

• 31:23Speaker 03

  A lot of the time you would get pitched an idea for a music video anyway, unless you had something really profound. But the, the story of my life one kind of was like a conversation between us and Ben Winston, the, the director. And yeah, we were like, we, you know, you get the gut, the, the guts of an idea and then start like breaking it down. But yeah, the story of my life video is such a, such a good idea and concept, especially for a song for called Story of My Life. But yeah, what are my other favorites? I like fireproof. I like, I like Stockholm Syndrome.

• 31:57Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 31:59Speaker 03

  I like, I think Story of My Life is one of my favorites too. I like, have you ever heard of a song called Never Enough?

• 32:07Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Has loads of trumpets on it.

• 32:09Speaker 01

  What's my, I need my phone. There's not, it's not Diana. It's not Midnight Memories, but it's on the Midnight Memories album. All right. I'll tell you right now, my favorite.

• 32:18Speaker 03

  Diana?

• 32:19Speaker 01

  Best song ever.

• 32:20Speaker 03

  Best song ever. Yeah.

• 32:22Speaker 01

  Cause it's the best song ever.

• 32:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, it is. I remember hearing that song for the first time and it was so different than anything that was out there at the time. I remember hearing it straight away and I was like, oh, now this is good. I, I, I remember recording. I remember, cause we did, we used to record all the time on the road. So it was like literally in hotel rooms with mattresses. We'd flip the beds up against the wall to create like soundproofing in every hotel on the planet.

• 32:46Speaker 01

  Really?

• 32:46Speaker 03

  And we would just like make the albums and come off stage, record vocals, do vocals in the afternoon.

• 32:52Speaker 01

  You worked.

• 32:54Speaker 01

  You worked. And you, you didn't do that for this upcoming album?

• 32:57Speaker 03

  No.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  You got off tour?

• 32:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 33:00Speaker 01

  And so when did this dinner party take place? Cause this album, you, the concept is you met your now girlfriend at a dinner party?

• 33:07Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:08Speaker 01

  That you hosted?

• 33:08Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 33:09Speaker 01

  Cause you don't leave the house.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. It was about five and a bit years ago. And yeah, we were just, literally was having some friends over. And a friend of mine was there and he was a mutual friend. Turns out to my now girlfriend and we were just having a few drinks, eating whatever. And then he was like, do you mind if a friend of mine comes over with a friend of hers? And then we got chatting. She came in, I offered her a drink. We got chatting and then that's it.

• 33:43Speaker 01

  And now you're together.

• 33:44Speaker 03

  And that's it.

• 33:44Speaker 01

  Is she like so like flattered that you've made this whole album about her?

• 33:50Speaker 03

  It's funny cause like when you get asked in an interview, what's the song about? It's obviously about my girlfriend.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  Right.

• 33:57Speaker 03

  You know, meeting my girlfriend at a dinner party, but the whole, my whole last album is about her as well. Really? I just didn't get questioned on it.

• 34:03Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 34:04Speaker 03

  As much. We do live like a, quite like a under, under a rock type life. We like live quite a private life outside of, but now that the album is, uh, dinner parties come out and people are talking about it. You know, I am talking about it a lot more, but we generally do live quite a private life.

• 34:24Speaker 01

  What are you most excited for people to experience on the album like?

• 34:30Speaker 03

  No, I think it's an album of like, yeah, love and romance and then all of the little bits in between. Like the doubts and the, the fear of losing that person are like the 10 ways I can fuck this up.

• 34:46Speaker 03

  You know what I mean? I've got a song for each of them. Um, and also like the, the fun, small moments and yeah, fear loss. Fear of loss, loss, romance, love are probably the, the, the four pillars of the album. And like, I just want like, like I do with all of my songs, cause I, I write in detail to a point. Because I think there's nothing worse than listening to, to music that you can't connect to the lyric at all. You're like, I can see what they're trying to get at, but I wasn't there. I don't understand what happened.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  You think the more specific you get, the more specific it becomes to someone else's life? Because like they're narrowing and all that feeling?

• 35:27Speaker 03

  Yeah. Well, yeah, it comes very specific to my life if I write very specific lyrics about the color of the walls and the, we were at that dinner in this restaurant and that street and the, you know, that kind of stuff.

• 35:38Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  Trying to get your point across and making it universal to the listener so they can attach their own emotion. Like and how they attach a story in their life to that song. Like all of the best songs of all time. Like, we don't know what goes on in Adele's life.

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Right.

• 35:55Speaker 03

  But because we can connect to the songs because she's just laid it out and told, you know, she's made it relatable to everybody.

• 36:02Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean?

• 36:04Speaker 01

  Adele's so good.

• 36:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, she's ridiculous.

• 36:07Speaker 01

  She's so good. Someone, what is it? Someone like you? Best, one of the best breakup songs of all time?

• 36:11Speaker 03

  I mean, and she has this, she's this knack to be like, you feel angry for her.

• 36:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:19Speaker 03

  Or with her.

• 36:20Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:20Speaker 03

  Or you feel.

• 36:21Speaker 01

  Well, because you feel like you are her. Do you know what I mean? You see yourself in her. That's all, that's all great songs.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, exactly. And like, the, yeah, the best songs kind of you can attach to.

• 36:33Speaker 01

  What's your favorite song of all time?

• 36:38Speaker 01

  Top three.

• 36:39Speaker 03

  I mean, Bridge Over Troubled Waters is genius.

• 36:45Speaker 01

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• 38:58Speaker 03

  I love Fleetwood Mac. If someone say, if you could write a song, what song would you have written? And I'd say Dreams, because it feels like the stuff I love to play, like if I was to pick up a guitar, I would strum in that pattern, I would, you know, because of Fleetwood Mac and I think Dreams is like encapsulates all of that. So I would say Dreams or Desperado by The Eagles.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  Oh yeah, I read that you loved The Eagles.

• 39:23Speaker 03

  I loved The Eagles.

• 39:24Speaker 01

  So you're like in, you listen to older music?

• 39:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, I grew up on like 70s like rock and roll from Laurel Canyon. All of that, Fleetwood Mac, The Eagles, Crosby, Stills and Nash and all the Doobie Brothers and all that kind of stuff. Yeah, so I have an old, older taste of music.

• 39:45Speaker 01

  Mine is more new.

• 39:46Speaker 03

  Really? What are you listening to?

• 39:47Speaker 01

  Like right now, I'm on a really big Ariana kick.

• 39:50Speaker 03

  Really?

• 39:51Speaker 01

  Really big, like hardcore, like Thank You Next era.

• 39:54Speaker 03

  Right, okay.

• 39:55Speaker 01

  I think it's the, like one of the best breakup albums of all time. Have you ever listened to it front to back?

• 40:01Speaker 03

  No, I haven't actually. I would just probably listen to the singles.

• 40:03Speaker 01

  Well, you're in love, so I don't know if you'll like relate to it, but like Louise and I are not.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  Alright.

• 40:09Speaker 01

  And so we listened to Thank You Next, front to back on our drive back from Boston.

• 40:14Speaker 03

  You drove back from Boston?

• 40:16Speaker 01

  What? Yeah, we were, yeah, to New York, to New York. But you know, I did, I used to take road trips to LA from New York with my dad and my brother when I was a kid.

• 40:24Speaker 03

  Really?

• 40:24Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 40:25Speaker 03

  You've done that?

• 40:26Speaker 01

  Multiple, multiple, multiple times.

• 40:28Speaker 03

  How long does that take?

• 40:29Speaker 01

  Five days.

• 40:31Speaker 03

  Non-stop?

• 40:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 40:32Speaker 03

  Would you stay like at nighttime?

• 40:33Speaker 01

  We would stay at like, just, we would take the mid, the Midwestern route is the fastest.

• 40:41Speaker 01

  Wherever hotel my dad picked.

• 40:42Speaker 03

  That is crazy.

• 40:43Speaker 01

  I loved in Embassy Suites.

• 40:45Speaker 03

  Really?

• 40:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, they had the best breakfast. They had the best breakfast.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  Buffet or a la carte?

• 40:49Speaker 01

  Uh, buffet.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:51Speaker 01

  And, and they had a really good waffle machine.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 40:54Speaker 01

  And at the Embassy Suites, they, if you stayed at a good one, they had a glass elevator.

• 40:59Speaker 03

  Glass elevator?

• 41:00Speaker 01

  And I loved those.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  I love the way we'd like walk through the door and be like, glass elevator.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, and that was like my favorite thing. One time we had to move hotels in the middle of the night because there was bedbugs.

• 41:09Speaker 03

  Really?

• 41:10Speaker 01

  That was, you know.

• 41:12Speaker 03

  Well, we talk about Embassy Suites. Oh, yeah. I remember staying in a, in a Holiday Inn and went to see my cousins in Boston one time. And they had a waffle machine. I'd never had waffles in my, I'd never had waffles in my life. They're like, sweet breakfasts are not a thing.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  I don't like sweets. So like, that's why I think I'd like Ireland.

• 41:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, we don't like, the, the sweet with the savory thing at breakfast in America is one of the most dumb, dumbfounding things of all time. Well, I remember seeing the waffle machine for the first time and be like, what the?

• 41:41Speaker 01

  It's pretty electric.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  This is nuts.

• 41:44Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it beeps, flip. And then you pop it out. It's awesome.

• 41:48Speaker 03

  Beep, flip.

• 41:49Speaker 01

  Yes. So do you have beans for breakfast a lot in Ireland?

• 41:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, beans, yeah. Beans, sausages, bacon.

• 41:56Speaker 01

  Love sausage.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  Um, bean, sausage, bacon, mushroom, hash brown. We have this thing called black pudding, which is apparently made out of pig's blood. And it's stunning. Beautiful. Maybe you need to have a full, go to Ireland or London or, and have a full English or Irish breakfast.

• 42:13Speaker 01

  I've seen the black pudding and I've strayed.

• 42:15Speaker 03

  Really? No, no, you'd like it.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  Sell me on it. Like I sold you on poppy.

• 42:19Speaker 03

  How was your Super Bowl commercial, by the way?

• 42:20Speaker 01

  It was great. It was just, it was very exciting. Sometimes, I mean, you know, like, things happen and you're like, I can't believe this is happening.

• 42:27Speaker 03

  We did a Super Bowl, a super, Super Burl, Super Bowl commercial, uh, years ago with Drew Brees, who was a player who played for the New Orleans team, Saints.

• 42:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, the Saints.

• 42:38Speaker 03

  And it was for Pepsi.

• 42:41Speaker 01

  Iconic.

• 42:42Speaker 03

  And we were, I was just, like, I don't know anything about American football really at this point. NFL, what do you call it? Football, just football?

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Football.

• 42:50Speaker 03

  Don't know much about football at all. But I know who Drew Brees is and I know what Pepsi is and I know exactly what the Super Bowl is and I knew what a Super Bowl commercial was, of course, and I just remember being like, alright, this is, this is some big time stuff. So I'm happy for you for getting your poppy commercial.

• 43:07Speaker 01

  Thank you, it was really, it was, and I just did another one.

• 43:09Speaker 03

  Did you?

• 43:09Speaker 01

  I'll show it to you after.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  Oh, really?

• 43:11Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was really cool.

• 43:13Speaker 03

  Oh, my God, we're getting all of the tea here today.

• 43:14Speaker 01

  I worked with, um, have you ever worked with Dave Myers?

• 43:16Speaker 03

  Oh, I have never, but I'm obviously.

• 43:18Speaker 01

  He's awesome, he directed it.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Really?

• 43:21Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 43:21Speaker 03

  I feel like it was. For what, for this?

• 43:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, and I made him, because he directed the music video for Taylor Swift's Me. And have you, have you ever seen the Miss Americana documentary?

• 43:30Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 43:31Speaker 01

  Okay, you know when she's like looking at the monitor and she's having a conversation with Dave Myers and they just like have a back and forth? I made him recreate that with me.

• 43:42Speaker 03

  No, you didn't.

• 43:43Speaker 01

  Yeah, I did.

• 43:44Speaker 03

  I love that song, by the way.

• 43:45Speaker 01

  Me?

• 43:46Speaker 03

  Miss Americana.

• 43:47Speaker 01

  Oh, best.

• 43:49Speaker 03

  That might be their best one.

• 43:50Speaker 01

  Really, you think? Is that your favorite?

• 43:51Speaker 03

  The melody in it is so good, she's.

• 43:54Speaker 01

  Oh, she's a master at melodies.

• 43:56Speaker 03

  And Me, Me's a good song too, but.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Me's great.

• 43:58Speaker 03

  I love, you and me, I love that line, um, play stupid games, you win stupid prizes, it's you and me, that's my whole world, Miss Americana and the heartbreak girl, okay? That one.

• 44:12Speaker 01

  Banger.

• 44:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, banger.

• 44:14Speaker 01

  But, um, I remember what, it has my favorite song of all time. Have you ever heard The Archer?

• 44:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 44:18Speaker 01

  It's my favorite song of all.

• 44:18Speaker 03

  The Archer too, yeah.

• 44:19Speaker 01

  Talk about favorite songs of all time, that, Someday by The Strokes.

• 44:25Speaker 03

  You, are you gonna go and see The Strokes?

• 44:27Speaker 01

  Why, yes, I am.

• 44:28Speaker 03

  At Coachella?

• 44:29Speaker 01

  I am.

• 44:29Speaker 03

  I think this comes out after Coachella, so.

• 44:31Speaker 01

  It does.

• 44:31Speaker 03

  How was The Strokes?

• 44:35Speaker 01

  I think it was good.

• 44:37Speaker 03

  I can't remember it.

• 44:38Speaker 01

  But every time, I'm always at a music festival and The Strokes are always there and I always am there for their first half of their show and then my friend makes me leave and I always miss Someday.

• 44:47Speaker 03

  It's such a tune.

• 44:47Speaker 01

  And Someday's like my favorite song of all time.

• 44:50Speaker 03

  And you're a New Yorker, so you get it. The Strokes are just, The Strokes are so, have inspired so, well, they're so New York, but they've inspired so many, but like, any sort of rock music from around that time since, it's just because of The Strokes, really.

• 45:04Speaker 01

  You know what I just got into? Just now, like never heard them before a day in my life besides one song. It's like offensive. Radiohead?

• 45:13Speaker 03

  What? Only just got in.

• 45:15Speaker 01

  Just got in.

• 45:16Speaker 03

  To be fair, to be fair, I didn't know what Poppy was before this.

• 45:18Speaker 01

  And then I called Louise and I said, have you ever heard Radiohead? And she said, yes, I, she said, because she was very depressed in high school.

• 45:29Speaker 03

  Oh, jeez. I mean, he's a genius, Tom York.

• 45:36Speaker 01

  What's the worst dinner party you've ever been to or ever hosted?

• 45:38Speaker 03

  Oh, fuck it. Dinner parties are...

• 45:41Speaker 01

  To be fair. I can't with dinner parties.

• 45:44Speaker 03

  Really? They're only a new thing for me. I feel like you're like, before, like I met my girlfriend, the thoughts of, of, the thoughts of having people around was, no.

• 45:55Speaker 01

  It's just miserable.

• 45:56Speaker 03

  But now that I'm getting older and I have a dog and a house, like, you slowly do. You're 20, what did we say?

• 46:02Speaker 01

  26.

• 46:03Speaker 03

  Right. We got to 26, okay.

• 46:05Speaker 01

  But my thing is with dinner parties is, like, I'm in and out of a meal. So like, I would go to dinner after and I kind of like, the one luxury I really like, allowed myself to indulge in was just getting up and leaving dinner.

• 46:20Speaker 03

  Oh, really? What, leaving everyone behind?

• 46:22Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  That's some diva shit.

• 46:25Speaker 01

  What?

• 46:25Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 46:26Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 46:27Speaker 03

  I'm gone.

• 46:28Speaker 01

  Are you serious?

• 46:29Speaker 03

  Yeah. You can't do that. That's proper Irish goodbye stuff.

• 46:33Speaker 01

  What? I didn't think that that was rude. I was like, we've all had a long day. I've been on stage for a few hours. I gotta go.

• 46:39Speaker 03

  To be fair now, if we're at home, I will sometimes just like, I don't know, pick, I'm finished first. I'll pick up my plate and like.

• 46:46Speaker 01

  That is not the same thing.

• 46:47Speaker 03

  But like, leaving a restaurant, they're leaving everyone behind.

• 46:49Speaker 01

  Well, I would pick one person.

• 46:51Speaker 03

  To bring with you.

• 46:52Speaker 01

  I'd say.

• 46:53Speaker 03

  You have to come with me.

• 46:53Speaker 01

  I would say Louise, let's go.

• 46:55Speaker 03

  Right.

• 46:56Speaker 01

  Or I'd say Manny, let's go.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  And then Louise, because she works with you, has to fucking stand up and go, all right, I will.

• 47:02Speaker 01

  No, sometimes.

• 47:02Speaker 03

  Even though I want to stay here.

• 47:03Speaker 01

  No, sometimes, sometimes she'll be like, I'm staying. And then I'll say, okay, so Manny, come on.

• 47:13Speaker 03

  That's so good.

• 47:14Speaker 01

  But Manny's always, but the thing about Manny is Manny's.

• 47:18Speaker 03

  I feel like I know Manny.

• 47:23Speaker 01

  Why do you say that? Manny, come here right now.

• 47:28Speaker 01

  She said.

• 47:29Speaker 05

  She said no.

• 47:30Speaker 01

  Okay, you wanna know why you feel like you may know Manny?

• 47:34Speaker 01

  Because this, this is Manny. And you.

• 47:40Speaker 03

  Holy shit.

• 47:46Speaker 03

  Imagine I zoomed in myself first, just to see how bad it was that year. Which one? Oh, there she is.

• 47:53Speaker 03

  That's the girl I met outside. Oh my god. Where's that Manny? First stadium.

• 48:00Speaker 01

  What's in LA?

• 48:02Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 48:03Speaker 01

  But that's why you feel like you know Manny.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  Right, okay, that's why I know Manny.

• 48:06Speaker 01

  And that is why I hate dinner parties.

• 48:08Speaker 03

  So you, so you just go, come on Manny, we're going, and that's it, and then everyone just left?

• 48:12Speaker 01

  No, what, yeah, you, here's my thing.

• 48:14Speaker 03

  Have you picked up the bill at this point?

• 48:16Speaker 01

  I pick up the bill every time.

• 48:16Speaker 03

  Right, okay, okay. So at least you've paid, so people can't go, why does he leave all the time?

• 48:21Speaker 01

  Well, here's my thing. I know that they've now dealt with me the entire day. I know it's not that serious if I get up and leave. They like, I like, I'm sure they don't need, they, right?

• 48:33Speaker 05

  You want me to say, I mean, that's a rock and a hard place.

• 48:39Speaker 01

  Like, you know, they, they're definitely down for like a, like, you know, like, he's gone, like.

• 48:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 48:44Speaker 01

  We don't need to like deal with.

• 48:46Speaker 03

  We've had enough.

• 48:46Speaker 01

  We've had enough. I mean, especially my, you know, if, do you have a good tour manager?

• 48:51Speaker 03

  Yes, Paul, he's out there. Right, okay, yeah, yeah. No, we, I stick around, I don't, no, you can't just be, unless I've got, unless we have like work early the next morning, I'll always stick around.

• 49:00Speaker 01

  You do?

• 49:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:01Speaker 01

  My thing is I just, I'm like, ah, like, I don't know how to describe it, I just, I have to leave. Well, you're claustrophobic, aren't you?

• 49:09Speaker 03

  Yeah. What, do you get a bit like antsy?

• 49:12Speaker 01

  I just get like hot. I get hot and I get like, I'm like, oh my god, like, I need to like go get naked and be in bed.

• 49:17Speaker 03

  No, what I'll do is I'll try and convince everyone that we should all leave.

• 49:20Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I leave.

• 49:21Speaker 03

  No, I like, cause I actually really don't like sitting there for, you know, when you've had dinner and then the conversation then starts when the dinner's finished. You know what I mean? And then you're sitting around for ages and you'd have another few drinks and talk crap and, like, in a, in a public setting, I hate. I just have to, like, once we've eaten. You're full. All right. That's why we came here.

• 49:43Speaker 01

  Let's go.

• 49:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 49:44Speaker 01

  So we are aligned.

• 49:45Speaker 03

  Kinda, but I'll do more like, is anyone not just like, think that we should just, you know, like, we've done, you know, I'll do a lot of that kind of complaining.

• 49:56Speaker 01

  I'm learning a lot about you.

• 49:57Speaker 03

  Sure. I'll do a lot of complaining to the point where people go, yeah, do you know what? He might be right. Let's go.

• 50:03Speaker 01

  Right.

• 50:04Speaker 03

  Instead, instead of just getting up and leaving.

• 50:06Speaker 01

  My saying is, I gotta get out of here.

• 50:07Speaker 03

  I gotta get out of here.

• 50:08Speaker 01

  That's what I say every time.

• 50:09Speaker 03

  Too stressed.

• 50:09Speaker 01

  I gotta get out of here and we get up, I get up with Manny.

• 50:12Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 50:13Speaker 01

  And we leave. But what I was saying was Manny and I are like soul sister, twin flames in the sense that like, we're always happy to be together. Like, it really is always just the two of us, Manny. I do have to bring up our mutual friend, Tucker.

• 50:25Speaker 03

  Tucker. Oh, what a legend. He's such a nice guy. Um, that's how I first seen Terapuce was when he was on it. Years ago.

• 50:35Speaker 01

  Really?

• 50:35Speaker 03

  Yeah. When was that? A couple of years ago?

• 50:37Speaker 01

  Yeah, it was like two years ago.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  Yeah. So what, um, but yeah, he, he, we went to his gig in, um, in London, which actually near, was near my house. And Lewis Capaldi had done Sally the night before, and then I did Sally. And Sally happens way too late in the gig because by the time I got on stage, I was hammered.

• 50:57Speaker 01

  I wonder how he came up with that.

• 51:01Speaker 03

  I don't know. Have you ever been Sally?

• 51:04Speaker 01

  Are you lying?

• 51:05Speaker 03

  Is this a, no.

• 51:07Speaker 01

  What?

• 51:08Speaker 03

  I live under a rock. Am I missing something?

• 51:11Speaker 01

  I just wonder how he came up with it.

• 51:12Speaker 03

  Oh my God, it was you that started Sally? Oh, fuck.

• 51:16Speaker 01

  No, it's okay.

• 51:17Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 51:18Speaker 01

  No one knows.

• 51:19Speaker 03

  Oh, when you said, I wonder how he came up with that.

• 51:21Speaker 01

  No one knows. No one knows. I was talking to Shaboozie the other night. I was like, how did he come up with that? He was like, I really don't know. And for this went on for like a solid 10 minutes because he does not tell anyone.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it happens. Sally's too late in the set. Cause I, by the time I got there, like, it was like, I think it was like a. Like a Tuesday night or something, you know, school night. And I was just like bananas drunk, because I just was like drinking throughout the gig. And then all of a sudden, it was like Sally's starting. I was like, oh, fuck, now I have to go out here and pretend.

• 51:51Speaker 01

  You seem like the most fun drunk ever.

• 51:53Speaker 03

  Really, do you think?

• 51:54Speaker 01

  I want to drink with you.

• 51:55Speaker 03

  All right, because we should definitely go for a drink.

• 51:57Speaker 01

  You want to go for a drink?

• 51:58Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 51:59Speaker 01

  Like, not right now, obviously, but like.

• 52:00Speaker 03

  No, 100% we should.

• 52:01Speaker 01

  Well, we live close by somewhat.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Well, we'll get, we'll get, we'll get the gang together and see. But yeah, Tucker, I really enjoyed, enjoyed him. He was such a nice fella. He, um, then we, we made him, we took him out the stage door of the concert. With me, oh yeah, that's what it was. Lewis came back the second night because I was doing it. So he came, he went to two of Tucker's shows and we had a few drinks in the bar afterwards. And then we took Tucker out the backstage door. The fans were kind of in a different spot and we took him around and then forced him to get on a bus after, like a red bus in London. After the show, we went straight back to my house and I have a bar in my, in my basement.

• 52:40Speaker 01

  I've heard.

• 52:41Speaker 03

  And, uh, yeah, we had a few, and then all of a sudden you look at the fucking clock and it's four in the morning and we're all. But he, he's not a big boozer though.

• 52:49Speaker 01

  Should we call him?

• 52:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, let's call Tucker. So hold on, you need to tell me the original, do you know what you should do? Call Tucker and make him tell the original Sally story.

• 52:58Speaker 06

  Yeah, see if he says you're Finn.

• 53:00Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 53:01Speaker 01

  Does he know you're here?

• 53:03Speaker 03

  No.

• 53:03Speaker 01

  I can't tell if I want you to call him or if I should call him.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  You do it. You're best friends with him.

• 53:10Speaker 01

  Well.

• 53:16Speaker 06

  Your call has been.

• 53:20Speaker 03

  Best friends forever. Oh, try it again.

• 53:28Speaker 06

  Your call has been.

• 53:29Speaker 03

  Oh, even faster.

• 53:33Speaker 03

  Wow. That Sally didn't go well, did it?

• 53:37Speaker 01

  You call him now.

• 53:38Speaker 03

  All right.

• 53:43Speaker 03

  Well, he just probably knows when you call him because you probably text him and he just knows that if you're calling them, it's.

• 53:50Speaker 01

  We talk all the time.

• 53:52Speaker 03

  Right, but if, if you call him when you're talking, see, he knows you're doing a podcast with someone.

• 53:58Speaker 01

  Well, that's the British ring ring.

• 53:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 54:04Speaker 07

  Hello, sir.

• 54:06Speaker 03

  Hello, Tucker.

• 54:09Speaker 07

  Is this a test?

• 54:10Speaker 01

  It's actually rude, though, I think. You're actually rude.

• 54:15Speaker 07

  Isn't that cool, man? It's Hollywood, man. I pick up for now hard enough.

• 54:21Speaker 03

  I love that part of it.

• 54:22Speaker 01

  But you declined it. Like, you actually actively pressed "no."

• 54:27Speaker 07

  Welcome to Hollywood, brother. I think he's got more followers than you, therefore I pick up for when he calls.

• 54:34Speaker 03

  See? That's Hollywood. That's some star shit.

• 54:37Speaker 01

  That's crazy. That's crazy.

• 54:40Speaker 07

  You're gonna learn. You gotta climb the ropes, man.

• 54:46Speaker 03

  He's actually... He's genuinely, like, visibly vexed.

• 54:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm upset.

• 54:55Speaker 03

  Um, we were trying... Do you know what we were trying to get to the bottom of, Tucker? We were trying to get to the bottom of, who is the original Sally?

• 55:02Speaker 03

  Was it Finn? Was it Finn, or was it Jake?

• 55:07Speaker 07

  Uh, it was Finn. It was this little boy in, uh, Austin, Texas, and it was his birthday, and he was... It was him.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 55:14Speaker 07

  God bless him. He started it.

• 55:16Speaker 03

  Okay, Jake is sitting here with a very sour face. Seems to believe it.

• 55:21Speaker 01

  I don't know what to say to you right now, honestly, Tucker.

• 55:23Speaker 03

  Right.

• 55:25Speaker 03

  I think you need...

• 55:25Speaker 07

  He just might not... Yeah, he might not have his vape on him, so if you give him his vape...

• 55:33Speaker 03

  Like a dummy.

• 55:37Speaker 01

  Well, my... You know, I have been thinking about it, now that you mention it, so...

• 55:44Speaker 07

  Jake was the original Sally. Jake was the original Sally. That's all you have to hear, and it's true.

• 55:48Speaker 03

  He just... He needed that.

• 55:50Speaker 01

  We should all go for a drink, huh?

• 55:54Speaker 07

  Alright, I gotta go now. You can call me when...

• 55:58Speaker 03

  Bye, Tucker. See ya.

• 56:02Speaker 03

  What's going on here?

• 56:03Speaker 01

  They said, "Tell me what's wrong."

• 56:04Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 56:05Speaker 01

  So, the pussies write in.

• 56:07Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 56:07Speaker 01

  And they tell us what's wrong and we give them advice.

• 56:09Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 56:10Speaker 01

  And then we prescribe them a remedy.

• 56:12Speaker 03

  We prescribe them. Gotcha, gotcha, gotcha.

• 56:14Speaker 01

  Ooh, and they can get messy. Case in point. I'm falling in love with my best friend's boyfriend.

• 56:20Speaker 03

  Ooh!

• 56:21Speaker 01

  I know, I know. I know! He's just so sweet and takes care of both of us. And he's always around because we live together and he's alluded to that. He thinks I'm pretty a couple of times. I would never do that to my best friend, but their relationship seemingly coming to its end. Maybe? They're always fighting and I'm wondering how bad it would be to start talking to him after. It would be atrocious.

• 56:45Speaker 03

  So what's your prescription?

• 56:46Speaker 01

  Uh, stop.

• 56:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, stop.

• 56:48Speaker 01

  I would prescribe maybe, um, finding dick elsewhere.

• 56:53Speaker 03

  Okay, okay. That's your prescription?

• 56:57Speaker 01

  I don't know. Yeah, that's really bad.

• 56:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, I don't think you can do that.

• 57:00Speaker 01

  I would watch like maybe the Scandival episodes of Vanderpump Rules.

• 57:03Speaker 04

  Euphoria, right?

• 57:05Speaker 01

  Do you watch Euphoria?

• 57:06Speaker 03

  No, I've never actually watched Euphoria. I need to watch that, actually.

• 57:08Speaker 01

  It's really good. It's giving euphoria.

• 57:10Speaker 03

  Right, okay.

• 57:11Speaker 01

  And there was a scene in Euphoria, where you won't know what I'm talking about, but maybe this person will, where Maddie looks at Cassie, because Cassie is hooking up with Nate. Sorry, spoiler alert. And, um...

• 57:23Speaker 01

  And Maddie, Cassie's like so depressed. I forget what happens, but like she's like so down bad about Nate.

• 57:30Speaker 03

  Right.

• 57:30Speaker 01

  And this is after she already is with him, after Maddie breaks up with him. And Maddie looks at her and goes, "I hope you enjoy it. This is your life now."

• 57:40Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 57:42Speaker 01

  And I would prescribe that scene of Euphoria.

• 57:44Speaker 03

  Right. Oh, there you go. That's the prescription.

• 57:46Speaker 01

  Right, and it's a good one, too, at that.

• 57:47Speaker 03

  That scene of Euphoria. I need to watch Euphoria, to be fair.

• 57:50Speaker 01

  Do you, do you watch any scripted television?

• 57:54Speaker 03

  Do you have a life?

• 57:55Speaker 01

  No, you do, but I'm wondering if you watch, like, do you watch, like, I'm wondering if we have watched similar shows.

• 58:01Speaker 03

  Um, I like Peaky Blinders. Have you ever watched Peaky Blinders?

• 58:04Speaker 01

  No, I haven't, but that checks out for you.

• 58:05Speaker 03

  What else do I like? Oh, shit. I like White Lotus.

• 58:09Speaker 01

  Of course.

• 58:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. Um, love that show. That's probably one of my favorites. Um, I can't think on the spot. I hate, I hate being put on the spot.

• 58:20Speaker 01

  Okay, I'm so sorry.

• 58:21Speaker 03

  Move on.

• 58:22Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 58:24Speaker 01

  My roommate got broken up with and is taking it very hard. I was there for her and supported her for the first couple of days, but it's been like three or four weeks and she's still like moping, leaving shit everywhere, being messy, crying loudly, never doing anything with me, et cetera. Do I continue to support her or is it time for some tough love? Both.

• 58:41Speaker 03

  Ooh, bit of both, yeah.

• 58:42Speaker 01

  Bit of both, and Thank You Next by Ariana Grande.

• 58:44Speaker 03

  So she's, she's, she's continuing to support currently. Is that what she says?

• 58:49Speaker 01

  She just needs to be like, I understand you're sad, but it's been four weeks. Like, I would watch Legally Blonde, because you know when the opening scene of Legally Blonde, she's like so depressed, mopey, mopey, mopey, and then like she finds a passion.

• 59:01Speaker 03

  Right.

• 59:01Speaker 01

  So just encourage your friend to find a new passion.

• 59:03Speaker 03

  Correct. I think, uh, it depends how long the relationship was too.

• 59:07Speaker 01

  Yeah, sometimes we miss context here.

• 59:08Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's what we're into.

• 59:11Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:12Speaker 03

  No, if the relationship's long, four weeks is not a lot.

• 59:15Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, you know, people say that you grieve double the amount of time you were, or what is it? You grieve half the time.

• 59:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, I know what you mean.

• 59:23Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 59:23Speaker 03

  What's your prescription?

• 59:25Speaker 01

  It's Thank You Next by Ariana Grande, start to finish.

• 59:27Speaker 03

  Right.

• 59:27Speaker 01

  Start to finish. It's the best breakup album.

• 59:30Speaker 03

  Bit of tough love.

• 59:31Speaker 01

  That or, um, I would say Back to Black is a great breakup album, which it is, but it's more like that'll encourage her mopeyness.

• 59:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay.

• 59:38Speaker 01

  You know, cause like, that's just, it, like, Ariana gets over the breakup at the end. I woke up at 4 a.m. on the concrete outside of a strip club last weekend with literally no idea how I got there. I talked to my friends afterwards and they were telling me I told them I was going home and got an Uber. Help, this is crazy behavior and I need to know if that's bad enough to seek help. I will say it's an isolated incident.

• 59:59Speaker 03

  Send, send in by Jake.

• 1:00:00Speaker 01

  And it is just a time of reflection. It's a time of reflection where you're like, wow, I should not be drinking the way I'm drinking.

• 1:00:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, the, the-

• 1:00:10Speaker 03

  The hangovers, well, I wonder how old this person is, but the, the hangovers when you get to a certain age are dreadful.

• 1:00:16Speaker 01

  It's not even.

• 1:00:17Speaker 03

  So they're actually scary when.

• 1:00:18Speaker 01

  My hangovers now are, are more so mental.

• 1:00:22Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:23Speaker 01

  Physical, I can, I can cure that. The, the mental gymnastics I do each morning after waking up of going out and drinking is just.

• 1:00:31Speaker 03

  You know what? For me, it's not day one, it's day two.

• 1:00:34Speaker 01

  Really? Why?

• 1:00:35Speaker 03

  Day one is just like, I'm actually happy that, that sometimes being hungover is kind of.

• 1:00:39Speaker 01

  Being hungover is awesome.

• 1:00:40Speaker 03

  It's great. Like eating shit, sleeping, whatever.

• 1:00:44Speaker 01

  What's your dream hangover day?

• 1:00:46Speaker 03

  Eleven AM McDonald's when the main menu starts, not the breakfast menu.

• 1:00:51Speaker 01

  You, wow.

• 1:00:52Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:00:52Speaker 01

  Hot take.

• 1:00:53Speaker 03

  Sometimes you're sat there.

• 1:00:55Speaker 01

  McDonald's doesn't serve regular food 24/7? I thought there was the, there, that was their whole bit.

• 1:00:59Speaker 03

  No, I think they don't start the main menu until 11 o'clock, which is, you have to wait. So if you're.

• 1:01:04Speaker 01

  Are you sure?

• 1:01:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, I'm pretty sure. I'm sure, I'm right.

• 1:01:06Speaker 01

  Wow.

• 1:01:07Speaker 04

  I don't think so. Is that not true? Yeah, I think they do. It's only the breakfast menu that has an isolated time for.

• 1:01:13Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 1:01:14Speaker 04

  So you've been. I think they do like the snack wraps at like nine AM as well.

• 1:01:16Speaker 03

  Well, maybe it's a new breeds thing then.

• 1:01:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, maybe.

• 1:01:18Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 1:01:18Speaker 03

  Maybe it's a new breeds.

• 1:01:19Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 1:01:20Speaker 03

  It could be a new breeds thing.

• 1:01:21Speaker 04

  Totally.

• 1:01:22Speaker 01

  Okay. So you, so you 11 AM, you order McDonald's.

• 1:01:24Speaker 03

  11 AM. So I can't sleep once I've had a drink, whether I've gone to bed at 2 AM or 11 PM. I'm waking up at seven or eight and that.

• 1:01:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:01:33Speaker 03

  I'm one of those people that thinks I have to get up and do something and then wait for 11, order McDonald's, then have a nap between, you know, 12 and three or four, get back up for first dinner, call it first dinner.

• 1:01:49Speaker 01

  Dinner number one.

• 1:01:49Speaker 03

  Dinner number one, usually maybe another type of burger, maybe like a Chick-fil-A or something like that, or

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  some sort of like a sandwich from somewhere. Like a Parm sandwich.

• 1:02:02Speaker 01

  How do you maintain your figure?

• 1:02:05Speaker 03

  Well, I recently gave up the booze for six weeks.

• 1:02:07Speaker 01

  Oh, you look amazing.

• 1:02:09Speaker 03

  What's four KG? It's like eight pounds?

• 1:02:12Speaker 01

  You gave up alcohol and lost eight pounds?

• 1:02:15Speaker 03

  Anybody know what four KG is?

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  Eight point eight pounds.

• 1:02:19Speaker 01

  You know, I'm giving up alcohol this month. Okay, okay, continue with your.

• 1:02:21Speaker 03

  Yeah, I keep shouting at other people.

• 1:02:24Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, stopped drinking for it for six weeks, eight pounds, working out and eating well, doing all the things we were talking about. Um, uh, where were we? First dinner. Yeah. And then then I maybe have another nap.

• 1:02:37Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 1:02:38Speaker 03

  Bed at like ten ish and then wake up in the horrors the next day.

• 1:02:43Speaker 01

  Okay. Do you want to know my dream hangover day?

• 1:02:45Speaker 03

  Go on.

• 1:02:45Speaker 01

  I wake up with all my best friends. And I know.

• 1:02:48Speaker 03

  I can't think of anything worse.

• 1:02:50Speaker 01

  And I know, really? And I know this sounds crazy, but sometimes it's better if we all got into a massive screaming fight the night before. Cause we think it's so funny the following day. Usually my favorite hangover spot in the city is, uh, the Beverly Glen Diner.

• 1:03:03Speaker 03

  Oh, you go out for lunch?

• 1:03:05Speaker 01

  It's nice to just like get out there and feel the sun.

• 1:03:08Speaker 03

  Well, like lunches in, like just to pick up a sandwich and.

• 1:03:10Speaker 01

  No, no, sit.

• 1:03:11Speaker 03

  All right, okay.

• 1:03:11Speaker 01

  And then we sit there and I look at, and I say, I need to leave.

• 1:03:15Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, okay.

• 1:03:16Speaker 01

  We need to leave.

• 1:03:17Speaker 03

  Louise.

• 1:03:19Speaker 01

  Lunch.

• 1:03:20Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:20Speaker 01

  Home.

• 1:03:21Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:22Speaker 01

  TV show.

• 1:03:23Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:03:24Speaker 01

  Scripted.

• 1:03:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, scripted, not non-scripted.

• 1:03:26Speaker 01

  Not usually not non-scripted. Smoke, dinner. And then like.

• 1:03:33Speaker 03

  What would you have for dinner?

• 1:03:35Speaker 01

  Like, well, if it's a Sunday, I, I, I love sushi.

• 1:03:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, sushi on a hangover.

• 1:03:40Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:03:42Speaker 03

  I know one other person like that.

• 1:03:43Speaker 01

  Who?

• 1:03:44Speaker 03

  My tour manager, I think he, I think he's a.

• 1:03:46Speaker 01

  We would get along.

• 1:03:47Speaker 03

  My cousin as well, he.

• 1:03:48Speaker 01

  Paul.

• 1:03:49Speaker 03

  Uh, sushi on a hangover is, I could not, I, I love sushi.

• 1:03:53Speaker 01

  Well, it's the, that's why it's for dinner. Or like, uh, or like, um, what else do I, or like an Italian. Pasta.

• 1:04:02Speaker 03

  Pasta, yeah, yeah, I can do with that, I can deal with that.

• 1:04:04Speaker 01

  And then, and then, yeah, I guess you're right, the next day is the day where it's like, what the, I'm like very depressed right now.

• 1:04:10Speaker 03

  Cause you're kind of early morning on the day of the hangover, you're still kind of half drunk.

• 1:04:14Speaker 01

  I mean, that's almost better, that's almost better than going out.

• 1:04:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:04:18Speaker 01

  When you wake up and you're still drunk and you're like wandering around and you're like, what is happening? Like, one time, like.

• 1:04:24Speaker 03

  What is happening?

• 1:04:27Speaker 01

  One time, my friend Peyton and I, we went to, this was the best hangover day of all time. We went to the Beverly Glen Diner and then we went next door to the Beverly Glen Pharmacy and we bought fake babies. And we carried the babies around all day. And then we went to Nobu for dinner and got high chairs for the babies and sat and had wine with our babies. And then we also brought the babies to our friend's play and we bought a giant rabbit that's actually in the main house.

• 1:04:51Speaker 03

  And you were hungover doing all of this? Like, oh no, I don't think I can move that much.

• 1:04:56Speaker 01

  I get it.

• 1:04:57Speaker 03

  Like, I could walk down the street, I could go and grab a coffee, then regret the coffee because the caffeine's made me more anxious. And then die on the couch for the rest of the evening. I don't know if I could do much more.

• 1:05:07Speaker 01

  But isn't that so beautiful that you have someone that you're so in love with that you can like do that with?

• 1:05:11Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:05:12Speaker 01

  How sad to do it alone.

• 1:05:13Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, yeah, no, she and her hangovers are worse than mine, which is.

• 1:05:16Speaker 01

  I do, I do it alone.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  You do it alone?

• 1:05:19Speaker 01

  I do it alone.

• 1:05:20Speaker 03

  What about your best friends?

• 1:05:21Speaker 01

  Well, sometimes they're not here.

• 1:05:23Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:05:23Speaker 01

  And I do it alone and it's excruciating.

• 1:05:26Speaker 03

  Really?

• 1:05:27Speaker 01

  It is, you want to know what I do to just get through the day? I get a Benadryl IV.

• 1:05:32Speaker 03

  Benadryl IV?

• 1:05:34Speaker 01

  Yeah. I have someone come over and they give me an IV and they push Benadryl into it and I just sleep.

• 1:05:40Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 1:05:44Speaker 01

  I can't stand it.

• 1:05:44Speaker 03

  Are you okay?

• 1:05:45Speaker 01

  No.

• 1:05:48Speaker 03

  But at least I give off the vibe I am.

• 1:05:50Speaker 01

  Yep. I'm genuinely so bad at driving, I'm wondering if they should take my license or not. I almost crash like every time. Sorry, that was all in caps. I'm in the car and it's even worse when it's raining or I'm driving around other people. I'm really insecure about it, but like my friends are not wrong to not want to get in the car with me. I'm just a girl. I don't care what the damn remedy is because I need to drive to and from work and we don't have a train close enough. I don't drive, so I don't.

• 1:06:15Speaker 03

  I don't even know what the start of that was. There was a lot of energy in that.

• 1:06:19Speaker 01

  She's basically like, I have to drive and I'm not good at it. So what do I do?

• 1:06:22Speaker 03

  Don't drive.

• 1:06:23Speaker 01

  But she has to.

• 1:06:24Speaker 03

  She has to drive.

• 1:06:25Speaker 01

  I mean, I don't drive.

• 1:06:27Speaker 03

  Do you not? How do you live in LA and not drive?

• 1:06:31Speaker 01

  I Uber.

• 1:06:32Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 1:06:32Speaker 01

  Or.

• 1:06:33Speaker 03

  I hate, that's one thing.

• 1:06:34Speaker 01

  You can imagine who drives me around. Louise.

• 1:06:37Speaker 03

  Or?

• 1:06:38Speaker 01

  Manny.

• 1:06:41Speaker 03

  That's, uh, yeah, just don't drive then, just get, I don't.

• 1:06:48Speaker 01

  There's not much to do.

• 1:06:49Speaker 03

  I don't really know what she.

• 1:06:50Speaker 01

  I would say like, don't drive your friends, but drive yourself and just try to stay off your phone. I, I can't imagine driving. It sounds horrible.

• 1:06:58Speaker 03

  I love driving.

• 1:06:59Speaker 01

  Really?

• 1:06:59Speaker 03

  I, I hate, my pet peeve is being in the back of a car.

• 1:07:03Speaker 01

  I just, I'm so jealous that you get to experience the feeling of like being alone in a car. Like, you know, like, I, because I Uber everywhere, I'm always, I've never been alone in a car. So like, I have never been able to like, fully like sing or fart in a car alone. Like that, you know what I mean?

• 1:07:19Speaker 03

  Sing and then fart and get a car.

• 1:07:21Speaker 01

  Like, do you know what I mean though?

• 1:07:23Speaker 03

  If that's what you're missing out on.

• 1:07:24Speaker 01

  Because like, and even in a Waymo, like they're listening. Have you seen the video of the girl in the Waymo like singing without her seatbelt? And the girl comes on and says, put on your seatbelt.

• 1:07:34Speaker 03

  Oh, oh, right.

• 1:07:34Speaker 01

  Yes, like they're watching.

• 1:07:35Speaker 03

  Oh, they're definitely watching.

• 1:07:36Speaker 01

  So I've never been alone in a car before. It's horrible. I've never been, I feel like I've never gotten the experience to just like.

• 1:07:42Speaker 03

  You need to learn how to drive.

• 1:07:44Speaker 01

  I know.

• 1:07:45Speaker 03

  You definitely need to do that.

• 1:07:46Speaker 01

  I won't.

• 1:07:47Speaker 03

  You're a New York kid, aren't you?

• 1:07:48Speaker 01

  Yeah, I can't.

• 1:07:50Speaker 03

  Got Subway everywhere.

• 1:07:51Speaker 01

  I, I did. I did. I hate my job and I can never stop thinking about work. I just graduated college and all I want to do is go back to school. How do you embrace the season you are in and look at the bright side as quitting simply isn't an option since I'm lucky to even have a job? Dot, dot, dot, question mark. God, you know, I really missed col-, I guess, I went to college and I really missed it that first year I graduated. But you have so much life ahead of you. You know what I mean? Like.

• 1:08:19Speaker 03

  Where, uh, where did you go to school?

• 1:08:21Speaker 01

  USC.

• 1:08:22Speaker 03

  Oh, you went, oh, you came out here for college?

• 1:08:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:24Speaker 03

  Right. What did you study?

• 1:08:26Speaker 01

  Public relations.

• 1:08:27Speaker 03

  Did you?

• 1:08:27Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 1:08:28Speaker 03

  Look at you relating to the public.

• 1:08:30Speaker 01

  You think?

• 1:08:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, for sure.

• 1:08:33Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 1:08:34Speaker 03

  No, uh, what was our question again?

• 1:08:36Speaker 01

  How do you live in the now? How, do you ever have, struggle with that?

• 1:08:41Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, because I just like, I have this like, constant thing where you just take it all in because you never know when it's

• 1:08:49Speaker 01

  gonna go away.

• 1:08:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, so I'm just like, you're gonna live with that all the time. It's a good place to be in a way, because it keeps you driven and motivated, I guess.

• 1:08:58Speaker 01

  Like, be like Louise. Like Louise had the best time in college. She had a friend group called the Peppas.

• 1:09:04Speaker 03

  The Peppas? Did you wear leather jackets with Peppas written on the back of it, or it's like grease or something?

• 1:09:10Speaker 01

  There's, it was a group, are you, get this, a group of twenty girls that were all friends, I said, and they never fought.

• 1:09:16Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 1:09:17Speaker 01

  Twenty-one?

• 1:09:18Speaker 05

  Twenty-eight.

• 1:09:18Speaker 01

  Twenty-eight girls, they're called the Peppas, there's twenty-eight Peppas.

• 1:09:21Speaker 03

  A whole classroom of people.

• 1:09:22Speaker 01

  But Louise is able to lead a beautiful and fulfilling life post-college while still reminiscing on college. And I think that's what you need to do. And I'm sure Louise didn't always like your job.

• 1:09:33Speaker 05

  No, not this, not, not this.

• 1:09:36Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 1:09:37Speaker 03

  This job I hate.

• 1:09:40Speaker 01

  I'm, oh, that's it.

• 1:09:46Speaker 01

  Did you have fun?

• 1:09:47Speaker 03

  That was so good.

• 1:09:48Speaker 01

  What did we learn today?

• 1:09:50Speaker 03

  We covered pretty much everything. We learned, first of all, we learned that we're getting a Supermole commercial again.

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  With Poppy.

• 1:09:55Speaker 03

  With Poppy.

• 1:09:55Speaker 01

  We learned that the castle on the hill is real.

• 1:09:57Speaker 03

  It's real. He broke his leg there when he was six years old.

• 1:10:00Speaker 01

  Mm-hmm, we learned that

• 1:10:02Speaker 03

  Tucker hates you.

• 1:10:02Speaker 01

  Tucker clearly hates me, and answers you and not me.

• 1:10:06Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:10:06Speaker 01

  Well, that like, and that makes sense with the fact that he, I don't, I can't talk about it, actually, we need to move on. We learned that, um...

• 1:10:16Speaker 03

  I actually do like gumbo and thought that I hated it.

• 1:10:19Speaker 01

  I don't think you know what gumbo is.

• 1:10:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, either do I, yeah, no, I still think it's chowder.

• 1:10:22Speaker 01

  I've, I've learned that in Ireland, that you guys don't do sweets for breakfast.

• 1:10:27Speaker 03

  No, no, no, no, not at all.

• 1:10:29Speaker 01

  And I also learned that I've made a new friend today, and you.

• 1:10:33Speaker 03

  I agree.

• 1:10:33Speaker 01

  Do you agree?

• 1:10:34Speaker 03

  Should we hug?

• 1:10:35Speaker 01

  I think we should hug.

• 1:10:39Speaker 01

  Aww.

• 1:10:40Speaker 03

  Beautiful.

• 1:10:40Speaker 01

  I felt that.

• 1:10:41Speaker 03

  It's a new friendship.

• 1:10:42Speaker 01

  It's a new friendship.

• 1:10:42Speaker 03

  It's a new friendship.

• 1:10:43Speaker 01

  Oh, well, first of all, thank you for coming on the show.

• 1:10:45Speaker 03

  Thanks for having me.

• 1:10:46Speaker 01

  I know how busy you are.

• 1:10:47Speaker 03

  Thank you for having me. This is great. I love it. Next time. I can't wait for the next time.

• 1:10:50Speaker 01

  Please.

• 1:10:51Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:10:51Speaker 01

  Dinner party. Your fourth solo album is out June 5th.

• 1:10:54Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:10:54Speaker 01

  It's incredible. I got to listen to it early.

• 1:10:56Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 1:10:57Speaker 01

  It's amazing.

• 1:10:58Speaker 03

  Bye pussies.

• 1:11:15Speaker 06

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