Pod Insights Therapuss with Jake Shane Session 118: Charlize Theron About this episode I don't know if you can tell, but I kind of have a new closet going on?
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0:41 Speaker 01 Hi pussies, welcome back to Therapuss. I just got out of the shower, which is why my hair is looking a little messy. It's a little wet. Feel like I need a little bit of a haircut is now what I'm realizing. Well, it's just me for the intro today. So I'm trying to think of what to say. I'm in, well, I've been vintage shopping lately, in case anyone is curious. Manny knows. And this is a vintage shirt that I bought. And I'm really pumped about it. And my entire closet has, is full of vintage stuff now. So I can't wait to feel like a vintage girl. My stomach hurts, my back hurts. My back kills, actually.
1:23 Speaker 01 And it's gotten to the point where I can't tell if my back actually hurts or I'm just making it up at this point. Because I have an addiction now to feeling like the little knot in my back right there and like rubbing my fingers off and on it. So I wonder if this is just what my life is now. I feel like maybe I gave myself a back problem. Because I really, my back was hurting really badly the other day. And then I put on a hoodie wrong and it was like the most, like, it made the most sense for how it happened for me. I was watching a basketball game. I was watching these men sweat and like fight over this ball like for two hours.
2:06 Speaker 01 Like falling, jumping, all this stuff. I'm literally just sitting. All of a sudden I put my hoodie on to get up and leave, back pulls.
2:16 Speaker 01 I felt like, of course, you know, I didn't even, and then these men do this every day.
2:23 Speaker 01 So if you're new here,
2:26 Speaker 01 this is not usually how things go. I usually have a friend with me. Oh, I guess, well, today's technically Wednesday, so I'm going to New York Wednesday night, which is tonight. Um, I'm so excited. We're recording some fun therapist episodes and I'm just excited to be in a city in the spring. Like, New York really is at its best in May, and I cannot wait to be able to experience it. Although, I'm trying not to drink right now, which I keep failing at, but I'm really, really gonna try this weekend to not drink. And if I come out of this weekend without having drank, I will be so proud of myself. But I am smoking every day. And I am realizing that the weed is making me incredibly paranoid.
3:11 Speaker 01 I had a moment the other night where I thought I was schizophrenic, because the, when I was watching television, my sound was off. So when people were speaking, the sound of people speaking, like, was off to the actual audio. And then I was like, you know what? Fuck it, I'll just watch it on my computer. But then I convinced myself the same thing was happening on my computer. So I was like, oh, it's, it's happening. The big man's here. Like, I'm schizophrenic. Because it's like, if you know, you know. Like, that's my number one fear, schizophrenia. And I, um, sorry.
3:41 Speaker 02 Like, what are you talking about?
3:45 Speaker 01 I'm enjoying it. Because Manny sees me. Like, Manny understands everything I'm saying. And by the way, the fear of schizophrenia is a real OCD thing, and I will not have anybody come up on here and tell me otherwise. I'm allowed to be scared of things.
4:01 Speaker 02 How's your reading going?
4:01 Speaker 01 Okay. Well, you know what? Shout out Kindle. I have a really hard time, and this is not a sponsor, my nightlight doesn't display enough light in order for me to read. So Kindles, like, really make it easier, because, like, they light up in the dark. And, yeah. But I've been reading Fame Sick by Lena Dunham, which is obviously amazing. Like, you know that's my queen. So. But I'm reading a little bit every night on my Kindle. Like, I was really trying to go for, like, the rustic look of the book, but like, I couldn't, I couldn't. I had to go with my Kindle. Um, so I'm reading a little bit of that every night. I actually just started Imperfect Woman. Anyone seen?
4:42 Speaker 01 It's very good. It's Elizabeth Moss, Kerry Washington, Kate Mara. It's very good. It's giving like all her fault vibes. Very soapy, very like you start and it jumps right in, which is what I needed. Um, it puts me to bed. Um, okay. Have, I don't know if you guys can tell, but like I kind of have a new closet going on.
5:04 Speaker 01 Can you tell?
5:05 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:06 Speaker 01 I have a new closet going on. Actually, let's get Matt on the phone. I wonder if he's realized that I have a new closet going on.
5:14 Speaker 03 Hello?
5:15 Speaker 01 Have you noticed that I have like a new closet going on?
5:19 Speaker 03 A new what?
5:20 Speaker 01 A new closet going on.
5:22 Speaker 03 What do you mean?
5:23 Speaker 01 Like new clothes. Have you noticed?
5:26 Speaker 03 Like all Ann Taylor and stuff?
5:28 Speaker 01 What?
5:29 Speaker 03 Like Ann Taylor, stuff like that?
5:32 Speaker 01 Ann Taylor? No. What are you talking about?
5:35 Speaker 03 Oh, I thought that's like what you were saying. You got Ann Taylor or shit or something.
5:41 Speaker 01 What?
5:45 Speaker 01 What?
5:47 Speaker 03 What did you say?
5:48 Speaker 01 I said, have you noticed I got new clothes?
5:50 Speaker 03 I guess.
5:51 Speaker 01 What are you doing?
5:52 Speaker 03 Nothing. I just picked up my phone. I broke it today.
5:55 Speaker 01 Oh, so you, it's actually funny. You, so you broke the phone today?
6:00 Speaker 03 Uh, like really early this morning. Yeah.
6:02 Speaker 01 So then why were you using that as an excuse for not responding to my texts all weekend?
6:07 Speaker 03 Uh, I wasn't feeling too good this weekend.
6:09 Speaker 01 So why couldn't you just say that instead of I broke my phone?
6:13 Speaker 03 Well, I did break my phone.
6:15 Speaker 01 This morning?
6:17 Speaker 03 What does that have to do with anything?
6:19 Speaker 01 I texted you asking why you couldn't, weren't speaking to me this weekend and you said I broke my phone. You just told me you broke it this morning.
6:27 Speaker 03 I mean, I don't know if any of that's really relevant, to be honest.
6:32 Speaker 01 What do you mean?
6:32 Speaker 03 Like that doesn't really make any sense. It's like what you're saying.
6:35 Speaker 01 No, it may, exactly. It makes no sense. That's why I'm bringing it up to you.
6:40 Speaker 03 Right, right.
6:44 Speaker 01 Okay, well, love you.
6:46 Speaker 03 Love you.
6:47 Speaker 01 Love you, bye. Oh my god, sweets and snacks, we decided we're going to EDC now the night before. Yeah. No, what, what? So I thought we were going to EDC for Vegas and apparently we're not going to EDC for Vegas, so I have to break the news to everyone. Hi.
7:02 Speaker 02 Hi.
7:04 Speaker 01 Pup, we're not, yeah, we're not going to EDC anymore.
7:08 Speaker 02 Okay, why?
7:09 Speaker 01 Because we can't.
7:12 Speaker 02 Why not?
7:13 Speaker 01 We can't go, we can't go to EDC anymore.
7:17 Speaker 02 Nobody cares.
7:19 Speaker 04 What happened? Are you cancelling sweets and snacks?
7:22 Speaker 01 No, I can't.
7:23 Speaker 04 He's cancelling EDC. I mean, to be honest with you. I mean, why do you think I didn't answer once in the group chat? In the whole world, were we going to EDC? I'm so down. Oh my god, everyone needs to shush up, like. So what happened?
7:37 Speaker 05 We're disturbing Chuchu's peace.
7:40 Speaker 04 What happened is that Jake was manic last night and screaming that we're going to EDC. I didn't answer because I knew we never were. So he's cancelling something that I never thought I was attending.
7:49 Speaker 01 Okay, everyone say sweets and snacks on three, one, two, three.
7:53 Speaker 04 Sweets and snacks!
7:55 Speaker 01 Yes. Oh, my back, you guys. Oh, it's like, I want to live my life, all I want all day long is to have somebody just going into the knot in my back, like, all day long, all day long. I want to wake up, face down, and have someone say, "Good morning", and start kneading my back.
8:17 Speaker 01 And then just like, take a break when I have to go pee or eat lunch, and then continue kneading my back. That's what I want, all day long. Just this one spot, and it like, hurts, but it feels like when you're poking a gum. Like, you know, when it hurts, but you're like, "Ugh." But I guess gums don't need to be poked, and backs need to be. So, we're going to sweets and snacks in Vegas. Everyone's super excited. See, the thing is, though, I don't know if we're gonna go out, and I don't think they know that, and so I feel like I'm kind of bamboozling everybody to come to Vegas, and they're like, like, what are we gonna do?
8:53 Speaker 02 I think we should go out.
8:54 Speaker 01 Really? On a Monday in Vegas?
8:55 Speaker 02 It's a Tuesday.
8:57 Speaker 01 Do things happen on Tuesdays in Vegas? Are you sure?
8:59 Speaker 02 I do think we have to go out.
9:01 Speaker 01 Are clubs going to be open on a Tuesday?
9:04 Speaker 02 Something's gonna be open.
9:10 Speaker 01 Because you know the club going up.
9:17 Speaker 02 Oh my god, that's really funny.
9:19 Speaker 01 I mean, they have that song for a reason, clearly. Tonight, we have on Charlize Theron, whose new movie Apex is out now. It's amazing. I got the chance to watch it. And obviously, Academy Award winner, icon, actress extraordinaire. She's everything. I was so honored I got to talk to her. You can literally hop over from Therapists to Apex because we're both on Netflix. But um. And she's a fellow Housewives fan like me. So enjoy the interview. Happy Wednesday. I love you pussies.
9:51 Speaker 01 Hi pussies. Tonight, we have on something I never thought I'd say, but Academy Award winner Charlize Theron.
9:58 Speaker 06 Oh, thank you.
10:00 Speaker 01 Thanks for being here.
10:01 Speaker 06 Thank you for having me.
10:03 Speaker 01 This is actually, you remember when we met at the Tate McRae Show?
10:05 Speaker 06 Yes.
10:06 Speaker 01 Did you enjoy the show?
10:07 Speaker 06 I did. My girls were there. They absolutely loved it. Yeah, we're fans.
10:12 Speaker 01 Have they seen any of your movies?
10:14 Speaker 06 Yeah, I actually saw Apex because they were out for most of it. The shooting of it in Australia, and they came out was during summer. No, it was summer or spring break. I can't remember now. No, it was, I can't remember. But they came out, there was like a school holiday attached to it. And they loved being in Australia where we shot. They really like, just loved the experience of being out in the wilderness. And they, they, for the first time ever, they got some jobs. They were assistants on the set. They would kind of like help out and get coffees. And I put them to work. I was like.
10:49 Speaker 01 Right, if you're gonna be here.
10:50 Speaker 06 You're gonna keep asking me what my job is? I'm gonna make you have a job where I have my job. But they were really loving it. And so when the rough cut came around, I was like, do you guys want to watch it with me? And they were like, no, mom. And then I turned it on and they started watching it. And then they just couldn't stop watching it. And it was truly one of my favorite moments because my 14-year-old, who's not at all impressed by me and always gives me kind of like a look of like, did you just fart? Sat next to me and she was just like, she got so, she's like, why is Sasha doing that? What? That's my character then. Why Sasha? What? No, Sasha can't do that, Mom. I was like, you were there. You know what the story is about. Like, why are you?
11:31 Speaker 06 So I knew that we were on to something because they were even like fully engaged and forgot that it was Mom. They actually totally forgot that it was Mom up there.
11:39 Speaker 01 Oh, so you must have felt like, I did, I did, I did something cool.
11:43 Speaker 06 You know, the best, the, the biggest compliment was they said, the movie feels really short, Mom.
11:49 Speaker 01 It did feel short.
11:50 Speaker 06 Did it?
11:51 Speaker 01 Yes, very short.
11:52 Speaker 06 Oh, look at that. You guys have something in common. That's a good, that's a good thing.
11:56 Speaker 01 I know. How long is it?
11:58 Speaker 06 I don't know.
11:59 Speaker 01 It's like two hours almost, right?
12:00 Speaker 06 It's a little less, yes. But it feels, because it has such an engine, right?
12:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's excellent.
12:06 Speaker 06 Oh, thank you so much. You liked it?
12:08 Speaker 01 I loved it. And I loved it even more when I discovered that you do most of your own stunts.
12:13 Speaker 06 I do most of my action stunt. I feel like stunts are like crazy things, like throwing yourself down a staircase or off a building. Like, I don't, I don't do that stuff, but I, I like doing action.
12:26 Speaker 06 Because I feel like good action movies make the physical stuff be part of the storytelling. It's not compartmentalized. It's not like the movie stops, you have some action, the movie picks up again.
12:37 Speaker 01 Right.
12:39 Speaker 06 And so I do, I feel like if you want to make a movie like that, you have to really kind of engage in all of that stuff.
12:47 Speaker 01 What drew you to the script initially?
12:49 Speaker 06 I thought that there was a lot of potential. When I originally read it, it was, the characters were different.
12:57 Speaker 06 But the, the premise, the idea was so straightforward, you know, like, you're just like, right in page 10, she's already in the wilderness, she meets this guy, he ends up being a serial killer, and he starts chasing her. And I just loved how simple that concept was. Didn't feel contrived to me and like plot driven. And then we just really spent a lot of time developing the characters, but I just loved the two-hander aspect of it, getting to work that intimately with another actor and coming up with some really good, I think, psychological scenes that makes the movie more like.
13:37 Speaker 06 A psychological thriller, action thriller slash action thriller. So I think of it more almost psychologically than action.
13:44 Speaker 01 You've been in a lot of like, action movies throughout your career. Like, is there something about them specifically that draws you to them?
13:52 Speaker 06 I've been lucky enough to develop most of the action movies, except for Mad Max Fury Road. But Atomic Blonde, I developed from eight pages of a comic book.
14:04 Speaker 06 And so that we really, I really developed that movie for myself. And the same with the Old Guard films. I did definitely, I wanted to, I was like, if I'm gonna make some action movies, I want to make some really good ones. And so I really kind of took it into my own hands. Yeah, the same with this one. I really wanted to like, make this something really special.
14:28 Speaker 01 Well, it is very special.
14:30 Speaker 06 Thank you.
14:30 Speaker 01 And I'm so excited for everyone to see it.
14:32 Speaker 06 Do you like these kind of movies?
14:33 Speaker 01 I like the ones that you're in.
14:35 Speaker 06 Oh, that's not, good answer.
14:38 Speaker 01 Thank you. I actually re-watched Monster.
14:41 Speaker 06 Okay.
14:41 Speaker 01 And I forgot how much it scared me as a child.
14:45 Speaker 06 Oh, my God, that's right. You saw it as a child. Oh, my God, I'm so old.
14:50 Speaker 01 No, no, no, I mean, I, and I, what I could think about after finishing it was, well, there were so many things I was thinking about, but you won Best Actress for it at the Academy Awards.
14:58 Speaker 06 Yeah.
14:59 Speaker 01 What did that feel like the morning after?
15:03 Speaker 06 I was hungover.
15:06 Speaker 06 I remember, such a stupid vivid memory, but I remember like, turning around and on my nightstand were false eyelashes, five million dollars worth of jewelry, and my silicone boobs.
15:24 Speaker 06 So stacked up in a pile. And I was like, that was a good night.
15:27 Speaker 01 Did you feel any type of like, like, pressure to do like, Monster 2.0 next award season? Or was there just, or were you able to ground yourself?
15:38 Speaker 06 It's definitely challenging because you do feel like there's a lot of eyes on you.
15:43 Speaker 06 But, and I was, you know, I was young. I was 27.
15:49 Speaker 06 There's definitely this feeling of like, like every step feels like it could be the wrong step and then, you know, something that you can't control. You have to just kind of, you have to watch that you don't start doing movies because people are kind of encouraging you to make them and you're not going by your own creative instinct, you know, which is something that I've just always trusted. Because then also, if the movie doesn't work and it doesn't, and it's fail, it fails, you've done it on your own terms and it's something that meant something to you.
16:20 Speaker 01 Right.
16:21 Speaker 06 But it's hard, for sure, that I, I did not necessarily, I liked that doors opened. Like, all of a sudden, directors who I admired wanted to meet me and like, all of these things weren't happening before. Like, I loved all of that because I could see that this was going to be something that changed the trajectory of my career. And I was really excited about that. But the other aspect of it, of like, what is the thing that she's going to pick and how, I just knew people were going to have opinions around it. And I didn't like that part of it.
16:54 Speaker 01 I know. I feel like that only happens with female best actress.
16:58 Speaker 06 Yeah.
16:59 Speaker 01 You know, winners. There's always that discussion, like when Mikey Madison won for Enora, it was like, what's she gonna pick next? What's she gonna pick next?
17:06 Speaker 06 That's so interesting that you noticed that, because I think it's true, too. I really do. I feel like women get such an unfair shake. There's a lot of like, oh, you don't want to do what this person did. But it's like, like, why not? Like, not every movie is a, gonna be a success. Like, no actor has one success after another.
17:23 Speaker 01 Right.
17:24 Speaker 06 But I agree. I feel like women have definitely a harder time.
17:29 Speaker 01 Especially when they're young.
17:30 Speaker 06 Yeah.
17:30 Speaker 01 Because people love an ingenue.
17:32 Speaker 06 Yeah.
17:32 Speaker 01 And they just want to like, make sure they mold them into however they want.
17:36 Speaker 06 Are you, are you a young girl? I feel like you really understand. I feel like you understand.
17:41 Speaker 01 I grew up around women. All my best friends are girls. So I-
17:44 Speaker 06 Do you have sisters?
17:45 Speaker 01 No, I have a younger brother.
17:46 Speaker 06 Okay.
17:47 Speaker 01 But my mom and I are best friends and I grew up around- My whole team is basically women and so.
17:53 Speaker 06 I know, but you have like a sensitivity, like a like a innate understanding that is not like I know a lot of people who have that, but they don't. You have like a you tuned into it. It's really nice.
18:04 Speaker 01 Oh, well.
18:04 Speaker 06 Yeah, I like it.
18:05 Speaker 01 Thank you.
18:06 Speaker 06 Yeah, it's really nice.
18:08 Speaker 01 Well, yeah, I just wanted to ask you about that because I was like, I wonder what she felt like picking that. And what next project did you pick for two thousand for two thousand four?
18:18 Speaker 06 It was a film called Ian Flux.
18:20 Speaker 01 Okay.
18:21 Speaker 06 Yeah, and it ended up actually being a film that really, um, it changed my my life in a not so great sense. I herniated a disc in my neck doing a back handspring. And I landed on my neck on a on a concrete bridge. And I I almost paralyzed myself and it was like day ten on the on like a really long shoot of this movie. And they had to shut the movie down and I was I was in a lot of pain and um, they were like, you have to finish the movie. Let's take six weeks off, like do some P T and like we'll see how it goes. And there's like a good chance because you're so
19:03 Speaker 06 young and you're fit and you're healthy that your body will absorb this disc. And long story short, I I got myself healthy enough to go and finish the movie. But from that time, for the next eight years, I I suffer from severe chronic pain, neck pain.
19:21 Speaker 01 Oh, my God, I had no idea. I'm so sorry.
19:23 Speaker 06 No, it's it was truly, truly one of the like, when you when you deal with pain for eight years, I have, I I don't really, I can't describe it any other way than just it's so fear based because you're just waiting for the next thing that's going to set your neck off and lock it and you're going to be in bed for five days.
19:45 Speaker 01 Right.
19:45 Speaker 06 And at first it was like, oh, because I did that big workout. And then it became like, I just reached for the towel to dry my body and my neck is out.
19:54 Speaker 01 Right.
19:55 Speaker 06 So I had a neck fusion done, um, where there's a metal plate kind of holding my two. And then a year ago, I had the one right above it, it replaced not with metal, but just with a disc replacement. So now I'm bionic. I can do anything with my neck. But that movie really. It caused a lot of hell for me.
20:16 Speaker 01 Oh, my God. I, when I asked, I had no idea. I'm so sorry.
20:19 Speaker 06 No, it's totally fine. I mean, this is your job. You're doing a great job.
20:23 Speaker 01 Thank you. Well, what are you therapist about today?
20:28 Speaker 06 I'm angry about something, but I don't know if I want to share it. But like, I had some dental work done, and I'm not very happy with my mouth right now. And I'm not happy that my doctor told me that I would, a week ago, be fine, and I'm not fine. And I don't understand why doctors don't just tell us truthfully what's gonna happen.
20:45 Speaker 01 Why do you think that is?
20:47 Speaker 06 Because they want our money.
20:49 Speaker 01 Oh, you think it's that?
20:50 Speaker 06 Yes. Because if they actually told me this, I would have said, no, I'm not gonna do this right now.
20:55 Speaker 01 Right.
20:56 Speaker 06 Because I know I have stuff coming up. And he knew it, because I told him. And he was like, I gotta sucker her in right now, because she might not come back. And so, yeah, I'm not, I'm not very happy with this guy right now. He's like, he'll be fine. Are you kidding me? Never told me that it was gonna be like a certain amount of like, having stitches. I was like, why would you not share this information with me?
21:17 Speaker 01 Right.
21:18 Speaker 06 I went for my post-op, and I was like, you never said any of this to me. And he was like, oh, no, no, no, no, no. It's okay. I tell you now.
21:28 Speaker 06 Yeah, but that doesn't make it okay. You should have told me the first time I saw you.
21:31 Speaker 01 You have to get a new doctor.
21:33 Speaker 06 I think so, too. I think I got bamboozled.
21:35 Speaker 01 Is this a dental guy? I have someone for you.
21:38 Speaker 06 Okay, great. I love it.
21:39 Speaker 01 He's been great for me.
21:40 Speaker 06 Okay.
21:41 Speaker 01 And all the LA doctors love to sucker money out of people.
21:45 Speaker 06 I think so, too.
21:46 Speaker 01 They love to sucker money in ways that I haven't seen, because I grew up in New York, and I never saw this.
21:51 Speaker 06 No. And also, by the way, when I go on location sometimes, and I like have something that comes up in a medication, or I go and see a doctor, what they, what you end up paying, like, I'm like, the cost, the difference between this and LA, we're suckers.
22:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, we're suckers.
22:07 Speaker 06 We're absolute suckers. We're just like people, like completely complacent, take my money.
22:13 Speaker 01 You could sell me like water for $50, and I would buy it.
22:16 Speaker 06 It's all of us.
22:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
22:17 Speaker 06 All of us. Because what if, right? Don't you have that feeling where like, I know it's a scam, but what if?
22:23 Speaker 01 Always what if. Always what if.
22:25 Speaker 06 This changes my life.
22:26 Speaker 01 What if this water is like actually biblical?
22:28 Speaker 06 Yeah.
22:28 Speaker 01 Like, I will literally buy anything.
22:30 Speaker 06 So crazy.
22:31 Speaker 01 What's the craziest thing you've ever bought, then you've been like, why did I buy that?
22:35 Speaker 06 Oh, my God. A lot of stuff. Let me think.
22:41 Speaker 06 I bought a, I bought a, a back, I thought it was a back massager with a heater on it. And I, I bought it and it came, it must have come from London because it had the wrong plug on it. Like, and so I couldn't try it. But I sent it to an electrician to change the plug and it was this whole thing, like getting the American plug put on. I spent so much money putting this fucking plug on it. And then I plugged it in and it doesn't massage. It's just a heating pack. I basically put, I spent a hundred dollars to put a plug on something that I could have done with a water bottle.
23:16 Speaker 01 Right.
23:18 Speaker 01 That sucks.
23:19 Speaker 06 We're idiots.
23:19 Speaker 01 Yeah.
23:20 Speaker 06 Read the small print.
23:21 Speaker 01 Yeah.
23:22 Speaker 06 Yeah.
23:22 Speaker 01 That happened to, well, one time I bought a, bought a jacket to Canada because I was doing a job in Canada. And I was leaving Monday. I don't know why I bought it on a Friday. So I was like, obviously it wasn't going to get there. I guess I didn't know that tariffs existed. And so I had to ship it back to the US, which cost $2,000.
23:42 Speaker 02 What?
23:43 Speaker 01 Yes.
23:43 Speaker 02 $2,000?
23:44 Speaker 01 To ship one jacket from Canada to the US because of tariffs. Isn't that insane? Not only that, then I had to get it tailored.
23:52 Speaker 06 Most expensive jacket.
23:54 Speaker 01 Ever. But you know what? I get compliments on it every time I wear it, so I don't give a fuck.
23:59 Speaker 06 It's worth it. It's worth it.
24:00 Speaker 01 When I was in New York wearing it this winter, everyone was like, I love your jacket. And I was like, you don't know what that means to me.
24:04 Speaker 06 Yeah.
24:05 Speaker 01 Because I went through hell and back to get this jacket.
24:06 Speaker 06 I'm gonna be homeless next week, but at least my jacket looks good.
24:09 Speaker 01 Exactly.
24:10 Speaker 06 I love it.
24:12 Speaker 01 Do you, do you base yourself out of LA almost entirely?
24:17 Speaker 06 Yeah, I live here and my, my kids are based and they have schools here and they have their own lives. They're both really, um, they're really into dance and they're really good. They're, they're, uh, they're on a competition team and so it's very, um, I mean, I'm basically like doing this, selling a movie and then I'm an Uber driver, just like driving them from ballet to school, to home, to Chick-fil-A, to whatever they need, you know?
24:44 Speaker 01 Right. Do they communicate with you via text message or via Snapchat?
24:49 Speaker 06 Okay.
24:51 Speaker 06 I am so glad you brought this up because I really hope my 14 year old is listening to this. Why don't you ever fucking text me back? What is that?
25:01 Speaker 01 They all use Snapchat. I did not know that.
25:04 Speaker 06 So I have to Snapchat?
25:05 Speaker 01 I have to Snapchat them. It's what I've learned. My friend's kid is like only like I only I messaged my mom and I was like, what? They only use Snapchat for everything.
25:16 Speaker 06 Okay, my 11 year old is still really good. She's very like, she's on it. She's very, I think I'm holding her back. She's like, ready to move into apartment. She can like, she's, she's good to go. I love somebody thought that was silly. But my 14 year old, even I like start threatening her. I'm like, I will take your iPad away. She's still doesn't reply back.
25:38 Speaker 01 When's her birthday?
25:39 Speaker 06 She's a, she's, she's a January baby, but she's just so aloof. She's like, um, I, my, my, I was on mute. I was like, no, it wasn't like, I can see, I can see that you're, you're on it.
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28:28 Speaker 01 I saw you say something very interesting where you're like, AI could recreate acting, but it can never recreate dance.
28:35 Speaker 06 I might be wrong on that, just by the way. I don't know the science. There's some tech guy going like, oh, no, we're on that. That's happening next week.
28:42 Speaker 01 But do your kids want to be dancers at all? Is that like a goal for them?
28:46 Speaker 06 They really love it. You know, I wouldn't be surprised if they go into some angle like that. I mean, I was a dancer for a big part of my life and I loved it so much. I mean, I didn't know there was really anything else that I was gonna. I was so in love with performing, but I didn't even know that then. So when I look at them, I can see the love that they have for it right now. But then I'm also, from my own experience, I'm thinking this can branch into so many other things. But I can tell that one of my daughters, she's a natural, she's a natural performer.
29:19 Speaker 01 So they must have had a lot of fun at the Tate McRae Show.
29:21 Speaker 06 Yeah, she's, she loves the stage. Yeah, she loves the stage. And like, I get so nervous. She's so little, she was so little when she started performing and I would get so nervous for her. And she would just be like pushing people out of the way to get on the stage. Like, she just loves a stage and the girl can perform. Like, she just knows how to perform. My other one really loves like choreo, choreographing dances and she loves the world a lot and she's really great in all these big, bigger group and group numbers, but I don't know, it's too, it's too soon to kind of say where they're gonna end up. As long as, they just need to get a job that pays them.
30:01 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm.
30:02 Speaker 06 Because I don't want to support them for the rest of life. That's like, kind of like my aim. I always say that, like, I need you to be financially independent. I don't want you to rely on another person, including me. Like, I want you to feel what it feels like to buy your first car with your own money that you've earned. That is a feeling that is just unbelievable. So they're always like, so you're not getting me a G-Wagon? I'm like, they don't even make those anymore, okay?
30:27 Speaker 01 Yeah, do they make G-Wagons anymore?
30:28 Speaker 06 No, they don't make G-Wagons anymore. But they, they're always like, I'm like, you must, I'm gonna drive that one day. I'm like, you're, what job do you have?
30:37 Speaker 01 That's an, that's an LA baby.
30:39 Speaker 06 Yeah. And I'm not, I told, they know, I'm like, I'm not, first of all, your first car is gonna be a Datsun because you're gonna crash it. You're gonna fuck it up somehow. You're a new driver.
30:49 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:49 Speaker 06 So we're not getting like the nice car up front. We need a little bit of experience and we're gonna earn it. But I want them, I want them to, I want them to be independent. I think that's the greatest, like, that's the thing that I, I can take from my own life, my own experience and the power of that. And I, and I always kind of remind them to kind of think that way.
31:14 Speaker 01 Are you gonna have them get like summer jobs and?
31:17 Speaker 06 Yes. Yeah. Every time we go to Starbucks, I'm like, look at this. Do you see the, how friendly? Do you see how friendly? You have to be that friendly every morning at 6:00 AM. Like, start getting ready for it. Yeah. I mean, I, that's, I feel like-
31:34 Speaker 06 You just said it like LA babies. There's a bubble here and.
31:38 Speaker 01 It's different than New York. Both are kind of very coastal elite, but there's a less of a bubble in New York. I think because you have more access to like what the world is like in LA. You can really never leave.
31:51 Speaker 06 Did you have a, did you have a job as a youngster in New York?
31:54 Speaker 01 Many, many jobs.
31:55 Speaker 06 What did you have?
31:56 Speaker 01 I was a babysitter. I was, I interned a lot. I did a lot of internships. I interned at a magazine. I interned at a public relations firm. I interned at, oh God, I'm like forgetting. I interned for a city councilwoman. Yeah, it was, it was cool. It was like nice to make my own money.
32:17 Speaker 06 And was it because your parents kind of asked you, they were, did they, were they?
32:21 Speaker 01 My mom was strict as a.
32:23 Speaker 06 Oh, so okay, I'm doing the right thing?
32:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, she was like, you don't like, cause I went to a private school where a lot of my friends had all their parents' money to spend. But my parents gave me like 20 bucks a week and were like, figure it out, kind of. So if I wanted a fake ID, which I did, I had to save up and I would save it in my little like, do you remember those like radio things? And you would put CDs in them?
32:49 Speaker 06 Oh, yes. I know what you're talking about. Yes. Yeah.
32:51 Speaker 01 Yeah. And I would put all my money in there. Um, and so I had to work, I babysat a lot.
32:56 Speaker 06 That's just such a great job.
32:58 Speaker 01 It's the, it's babysitting is the ultimate life hack. They will overpay you.
33:03 Speaker 06 Yeah.
33:04 Speaker 01 It's like, all you do is sit there.
33:07 Speaker 06 Do you know why?
33:09 Speaker 01 Why?
33:09 Speaker 06 Cause they're like, just give me a break.
33:10 Speaker 01 Right.
33:11 Speaker 06 Just please take my kids, take my kids and give me a break.
33:14 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I was a big, I was a big babysat babysitter. I babysat a bunch of kids and it like funded my way through high school.
33:20 Speaker 06 I, I keep telling my kids that too. I'm like, this is a great way to start.
33:24 Speaker 01 It is.
33:25 Speaker 06 Yeah.
33:25 Speaker 01 It's harder here though, because they need their license to drive.
33:28 Speaker 06 Got it. But like, I'd be okay with driving them if they actually like did the job. You know what I mean? I'm not gonna be that mean. But I just, I want, yeah, I really, I want to encourage them because I also feel, which isn't fair on them because they didn't ask for this, but unfortunately I'm their mom and I think everybody is just waiting for them to be assholes and self-centered and kind of expect things to come their way, you know? And so I, I, I want to try and prepare them as much for that, that that is gonna happen. And so they, they, they have to start thinking about like. There's hard work around things like you'll have to earn a lot of stuff in life just in general, but it's gonna maybe be twice as hard for you guys.
34:10 Speaker 01 Right.
34:10 Speaker 06 You know?
34:10 Speaker 01 And in order how to like block out the noise as well.
34:12 Speaker 06 Yes, exactly. But also, I think all of those things give you purpose as a young person. And there's nothing like independence when you're a young person. Like when I remember when I left at 16 and I was like, holy shit, like, I have to cook my dinner tonight. Like, I have to make sure my laundry is done. Like, I had to do all of it. But I loved it, you know?
34:35 Speaker 01 How did you convince your mom to let you leave at 16? Was it just a different time or?
34:38 Speaker 06 My mom was the one who pushed me out of the house, actually. There was a lot going on in South Africa at the time. And I had an opportunity to go and try something. And she really, she really was the one who was like, go, you should go and try this. You don't want to be on your deathbed and wonder what this would have been like if I didn't do it. So she was really my encouragement. I mean, she was the one that put it together that I should go try and be an actor. I wasn't the one that did that.
35:09 Speaker 01 Didn't she come to New York and was like, you're either coming home or you're doing acting?
35:14 Speaker 06 Yeah, not quite as articulate as that.
35:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
35:18 Speaker 06 But something like that, yes.
35:19 Speaker 01 And do you, was it, do you remember there was a moment when you were auditioning? And you, there was like, where you're like, okay, this could actually happen?
35:28 Speaker 06 Yeah, I mean, I feel like at 19, you just think like, I did, I was like, I'm gonna go get this job today. Like, I was just like so determined. I never kind of willy nillyed anything, always prepared. I didn't get everything, but I, I definitely went in with intention of like, I'm getting this job today. But I think that's my personality is very much like, if I'm gonna do something, I'm gonna do it really well. I'm not gonna fuck around. Cause then I just won't do it.
35:56 Speaker 01 Right, that's, yeah.
35:57 Speaker 06 Yeah.
35:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
35:59 Speaker 06 When did you come here? How old were you when you came here?
36:01 Speaker 01 I was born here. I was born, but I moved when I was two. And then I grew up around, I grew up in New York. I lived in Brooklyn for a little and then Westchester. And then I grew up mainly in Washington Heights in the city. And then I came back here when I was 18 for USC. And then my parents kind of followed suit during COVID. Cause during COVID, everything was just like, what the fuck is going on? And now I've been out here ever since. I love it here.
36:26 Speaker 06 Do you?
36:27 Speaker 01 But I don't drive, so.
36:29 Speaker 06 Por qu?
36:32 Speaker 01 Cause I will crash.
36:34 Speaker 06 Well, that's if you don't learn.
36:36 Speaker 01 My dad is like, you will crash the car. Like this is like, I'm like a true New York City kid, like I can't do it.
36:44 Speaker 06 Oh, my God.
36:45 Speaker 01 I know, I'm terrified.
36:46 Speaker 06 I have a friend like that.
36:48 Speaker 01 I'm terrified.
36:49 Speaker 06 She's, I was, she's like, I don't have a license. I'm like, how do you not know how to drive a car? I was like eight years old.
36:55 Speaker 01 No way.
36:56 Speaker 06 Driving a tra- I grew up on a farm, yeah. Yeah, so it's just like every eight year old knows how to drive some semi truck or something.
37:05 Speaker 01 Yeah. Wow.
37:07 Speaker 06 Yeah, but that's interesting. It's like, it's interesting how we all grow up and we're kind of, we are what are like our circumstances, what, what we're surrounded in, like that's makes sense. Like you don't have to drive in New York.
37:19 Speaker 01 And I'm lucky now because of Uber, but if Uber didn't exist, I mean, it really like clocked to me the other day when I was with my brother and he was like, I just got my first car. And I was like, what? He's 22 and I was like, oh my God, I can't do this.
37:32 Speaker 06 So he's in.
37:33 Speaker 01 He's in, he can drive, he can do it all.
37:35 Speaker 06 And what your dad's like, he's not gonna crash.
37:37 Speaker 01 Yeah.
37:38 Speaker 06 But you.
37:38 Speaker 01 Yeah, I think my dad is like, I'm like the one that, the last one that'll listen to him. So he's like, just please don't get behind a wheel.
37:45 Speaker 06 Yeah.
37:45 Speaker 01 I'm also so addicted to my phone. So like, I know, like, I just can't.
37:49 Speaker 06 That's good that you know your shortcomings.
37:51 Speaker 01 Yeah.
37:53 Speaker 06 I, I do feel like, if anything, I want to encourage my kids to just take Uber. You know, it's like, I, I think truly, truly, hands down, the most scary thing for me is imagining my kids driving or being in a car with another 17, 18 year old driving. I can't think of anything more dangerous, more scary, inexperienced. It's not about what they're gonna do. It's not knowing what the other guy's gonna do. I think cars are truly my greatest fear.
38:21 Speaker 01 They're scary.
38:22 Speaker 06 Yeah.
38:22 Speaker 01 They're scary.
38:23 Speaker 06 Much, much prefer them to just take Ubers.
38:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
38:26 Speaker 06 Yeah.
38:27 Speaker 01 I like walking. I like everywhere I can possibly walk, I will walk.
38:31 Speaker 06 Yeah.
38:32 Speaker 01 It's like the one thing, walking and listening to music is like my one thing that reminds me of New York.
38:36 Speaker 06 Yeah, that makes sense. So do you walk to Beverly Hills?
38:41 Speaker 01 I Uber. What do you?
38:44 Speaker 06 Do you Uber or Lyft?
38:45 Speaker 01 I Uber.
38:46 Speaker 06 Yeah, what is that? Why do we all Uber and not Lyft?
38:49 Speaker 01 It's kind of like Apple versus PC.
38:51 Speaker 06 Yeah.
38:52 Speaker 01 It's like, I just use an Apple computer.
38:54 Speaker 06 Got it. Have you ever, have you ever lifted?
38:57 Speaker 01 Like lifted?
38:58 Speaker 06 Like been in a lift?
39:00 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, of course. I thought you were like lifted the gym. I was like, well, yes.
39:04 Speaker 06 So do you remember your Lyft ride versus your Uber ride? Were they different?
39:07 Speaker 01 I remember the interface, if that's what it's called, of Uber just being a tad more simple for me.
39:13 Speaker 06 Me too.
39:14 Speaker 01 I just remember it being a tad more simple.
39:16 Speaker 06 Yes.
39:17 Speaker 01 And I liked it. It just felt better.
39:19 Speaker 06 Yes.
39:20 Speaker 01 You know?
39:21 Speaker 06 Do you know that my friend took an Uber the other day and she took a photo and she sent it to me? There was a tennis shoe underneath the front seat, just a woman's tennis shoe, just one. And I was like, you should probably check the trunk. It was really, really weird.
39:39 Speaker 01 That is creepy. I've had some creepy, creepy, creepy Uber's.
39:42 Speaker 06 Just a small size five tennis shoe.
39:45 Speaker 01 Did she check the trunk?
39:47 Speaker 06 No, she, I, I don't know what she ended up doing, but I was like, this is actually serious. This is actually not a joke. Like, I'm actually worried for you. You have to like text me when you're out of the car.
39:55 Speaker 01 Oh, God. One time I got dropped off on the side of the road.
39:58 Speaker 06 What?
39:59 Speaker 01 Yes.
39:59 Speaker 06 They kicked you out?
40:00 Speaker 01 Yeah. I mean, you can imagine. Like, he was like, you are so goddamn annoying. Like, gas car.
40:06 Speaker 06 You were talking too much?
40:07 Speaker 01 Well, I said, could you turn the music up a little? He pulled up, he said, just get out.
40:10 Speaker 06 Oh, just one thing. That was it?
40:12 Speaker 01 And I was like, he must have had a bad day.
40:14 Speaker 06 Oh, that's funny.
40:14 Speaker 01 And then one time, I used to like, I used to take every, like, there used to be, like, all these different apps for rides. I'd be like, five dollar rides across the city of Manhattan as long, whatever. Like, there used to be all these different things. And I remember taking one and it took me to 200 and something street instead of 181st Street. And it was 2:00 AM and my phone was at 1%. And I remember, I called an Uber in a pinch and it, it really showed up for me.
40:41 Speaker 06 Wow.
40:42 Speaker 01 So I'm always Uber over Lyft.
40:44 Speaker 06 I get it.
40:45 Speaker 01 What are you watching on TV right now?
40:47 Speaker 06 I'm not, I'm not watching anything great. I'm watching 90 Day Fiance, so.
40:50 Speaker 01 Oh, really? Are you a Housewives person?
40:53 Speaker 06 Yes, I am.
40:54 Speaker 01 Are you watching Rhode Island?
40:55 Speaker 06 Yeah. I haven't started Rhode Island. Is it amazing?
40:58 Speaker 01 It's amazing.
40:59 Speaker 06 No, really?
41:00 Speaker 01 Yes, it's early Salt Lake.
41:01 Speaker 06 Oh, I know what I'm doing tonight.
41:02 Speaker 01 Yeah. There's only four episodes out. It's fantastic.
41:05 Speaker 06 You just changed my life.
41:10 Speaker 01 Okay, so we're gonna do the tell me what's wrongs really quickly. I'm in love with my brother's oldest, closest friend. I always used to joke around saying I'm gonna marry him, but now I have a boyfriend who's been really great. We've been dating for a bit, but my brother's best friend, best man too, kind of just told me at my brother's wedding, the feeling between us is mutual. I'm like freaking out. It's been a couple of days and I haven't seen him since. What do I do?
41:32 Speaker 06 I have so many questions.
41:33 Speaker 01 Yeah, that is oftentimes the case.
41:39 Speaker 06 Well, I think the simple answer is that if you're into him and he's into you, then you should probably pursue it because it sounds to me like the boyfriend is a nice guy.
41:51 Speaker 06 Not much more.
41:53 Speaker 01 Yeah.
41:53 Speaker 06 Nice guys are good, but if you have a crush on somebody else and there's chemistry and they are reciprocating, then you should probably give that a shot. I mean, you can break up with a nice guy.
42:04 Speaker 01 I think so too. And I think it hurts to be, it hurts them as well if you're just in the relationship for convenience.
42:11 Speaker 06 And it's not gonna go away.
42:13 Speaker 01 No, never.
42:13 Speaker 06 It's not gonna change.
42:15 Speaker 01 Exactly. You're always gonna be wondering what if.
42:17 Speaker 06 Yeah, exactly.
42:18 Speaker 01 So, yeah, if I had a crush on someone for 10 years and they told me that they liked me back, I would dump whoever was in front of me.
42:23 Speaker 06 Yeah, and by the way, that's like a feat. 10 years is a long time and you still give a shit?
42:27 Speaker 01 Yeah.
42:27 Speaker 06 You should probably do it.
42:28 Speaker 01 Yeah. I'm having a hard time knowing-
42:31 Speaker 06 The boyfriend's like, "Fuck you."
42:33 Speaker 01 Yeah, I know. I literally, like because of therapists, my relationship ended. I'm having a hard time knowing how to end a friendship that hasn't really even started. There's a girl I've hung out with a couple of times now who I'm just not interested in developing a friendship with. So... But she keeps on asking me to hang out with these exhausting plans. It feels more like work than it needs to be. Than it needs to be. But the thing is, we're both in the theater and dance scenes in my city and we have an upcoming project we're both working on, so I don't wanna ghost her or be unintentionally rude.
43:04 Speaker 06 That's actually a really hard problem.
43:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
43:08 Speaker 06 Because when you started reading, I was like, don't fucking reply.
43:12 Speaker 01 Right.
43:12 Speaker 06 But that's tricky because yeah, that's a real, that's actually a conundrum. As they say in the olden days.
43:20 Speaker 01 I don't know how to, how would you go about that?
43:23 Speaker 06 That's, that takes some massaging. I understand why it's a complicated issue for her. I would, here's the thing, you can manage it, but it's work. That's the only annoying thing, right? It's like you can, you can manage it, you can massage it, you can kind of like,
43:41 Speaker 06 let her know that you're maybe more of a short person. So you don't get all wordy with it. You're just like, can't do it tonight. Just be short with it, right? But you're not mean and you're not ignoring her, but just like, can't do it tonight. Don't even get into it. Don't over explain why.
43:56 Speaker 06 And hopefully she'll get the message because you're not being flowery about it, but you're also not ignoring her.
44:01 Speaker 01 Right.
44:01 Speaker 06 Right?
44:02 Speaker 01 And then if she's like, well, you didn't.
44:04 Speaker 06 Yeah, just be like, I'm crazy right now.
44:06 Speaker 01 Yeah. Just set your boundaries now.
44:08 Speaker 06 I'm gonna be crazy for the next 10 years, actually.
44:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, for forever, actually.
44:12 Speaker 06 I'm gonna be really busy.
44:14 Speaker 01 My boyfriend of three years told me last night that he wants to, oh my God.
44:19 Speaker 06 Oh.
44:19 Speaker 01 That he wants to help me lose weight and be healthier because he wants to marry someone who is fit and cares about their health. I think I should be furious, but these align with my goals too. For reference, I've gained some comfortable weight since we started dating. Should I take that from him or is this tough love?
44:32 Speaker 06 No, fuck no. Like, I wanna murder this guy.
44:36 Speaker 01 Yeah, that's outrageous.
44:38 Speaker 06 That's not, and three, she's been with him for three years and he's never shown any signs of like, hey, baby, uh, those pants look tight. Like, he's never done that?
44:45 Speaker 01 That's outrageous. I would break up immediately.
44:48 Speaker 06 Yeah, this guy is no good. Honestly, it's just, that's not good. And even if they align with your wants and needs and ideas, like, that should be on you. That's your aspiration. Nobody who loves you should ever, ever say anything about the way you look and how that should be improved. Like, I just, I don't have a friend like that in my life. Sometimes I kind of wish I do because I look back at photos. I'm like, does anybody who loved me, why did you not tell me I shouldn't wear that?
45:16 Speaker 01 I don't think I've ever seen a photo of you where you look bad, ever.
45:19 Speaker 06 That's very sweet, but I've had some questionable hair choices. But no, this, what's her name?
45:25 Speaker 01 That we don't know.
45:26 Speaker 06 Oh, we don't know. Susan, listen to me. Drop this motherfucker.
45:31 Speaker 01 Drop him.
45:32 Speaker 06 Yeah.
45:32 Speaker 01 Drop him.
45:33 Speaker 06 Yeah.
45:34 Speaker 01 I got bored at work and went snooping through messages between my boss and a potential new hire on the phone we have at work and found out my boss is offering $10 an hour more to this new hire for the same position I'm working in and this person has less experience and I've been here for two years. Help, what do I do? I feel like I can't say anything because I shouldn't have gone through the text messages.
45:55 Speaker 06 That sucks because you don't want to know that, right? And you want to feel valued at your job and that's probably something now that's going to be really hard to kind of forget about. I think that's always going to be in the foreground.
46:08 Speaker 06 But don't fucking do shit like that.
46:11 Speaker 01 Like, don't go through someone else. Yeah.
46:13 Speaker 06 Don't do it. Like, you're gonna find something you don't like. You know, it's like girls are going through the, like, either break up or just don't, don't do shit like that. You know, you're gonna find something that's gonna just stay in your head, no matter how small or big it is. It doesn't need to be like a big thing, but like, don't go through people's shit.
46:31 Speaker 01 I'm so against it as well. I did it once when I was 18 and I was like, I'm just, I'm never doing this again. There's no rhyme or reason. Like, I don't want someone going through my shit.
46:41 Speaker 06 But there's also no good experience because you're going to find out something that's not going to sit well with you.
46:47 Speaker 01 Agreed.
46:48 Speaker 06 It's not good. But yeah, this is a tricky one. I don't know. You're partly to blame for your own problem here. And it's probably not going to go away. I don't know. I don't know. What do you think she should do?
46:59 Speaker 01 If I were her, I would be looking for other jobs on the side and leave once I've found an offer that I'm comfortable accepting.
47:09 Speaker 06 And learn how to not snoot.
47:10 Speaker 01 And learn never to go through my boss's phone ever again.
47:12 Speaker 06 Yeah. Maybe start with that.
47:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
47:15 Speaker 06 Yeah.
47:16 Speaker 01 Well, Charlize, what did we learn today?
47:19 Speaker 06 Um, what did we learn? We learned we like Uber more than Lyft.
47:24 Speaker 01 We learned that you're gonna watch our Housewives.
47:26 Speaker 06 There goes my Lyft campaign.
47:28 Speaker 01 Is it bad? I kind of thought the same thing. I was like, wait.
47:31 Speaker 06 We love Lyft.
47:34 Speaker 06 We can editorialize this to work in your favor.
47:37 Speaker 01 We learned that you are a Housewives fan.
47:38 Speaker 06 Yeah. Yeah, no, I'm a massive. Somebody asked me yesterday, if you had to do a TED Talk right now, like, what's the subject that you feel like you could really confidently talk? I was like, Housewives. I can talk. I can do about Housewives.
47:50 Speaker 01 Do you like, you like Salt Lake, I assume?
47:51 Speaker 06 I do. I love, yeah. Salt Lake is good. I really love Potomac as well.
47:56 Speaker 01 Who's your favorite on Salt Lake?
47:58 Speaker 06 I like them all, but I mean, if I was like gonna hang out Heather, like I'd love to like hang out with Heather. But then I just love all the drama.
48:07 Speaker 01 I am obsessed with Lisa Barlow.
48:10 Speaker 06 Yeah, I know. She's pretty amazing.
48:11 Speaker 01 Like she wasn't in one episode, they mentioned her, what, 50 times?
48:14 Speaker 06 Yeah. No, she starts, she starts a lot of shit.
48:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
48:18 Speaker 06 She starts a lot of shit.
48:18 Speaker 01 They know their job on that show and for that I appreciate it.
48:21 Speaker 06 Yeah, I just love all the hair, always touching her hair.
48:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, she's always, always.
48:26 Speaker 06 Always touching her hair. It's so funny.
48:28 Speaker 01 And I love, I, at first I didn't really care and now I really love Angie.
48:34 Speaker 06 Oh, yes, you have to. I mean, come on. She comes out of nowhere. Which is your favorite one, Salt Lake?
48:40 Speaker 01 Lisa, yeah, and Salt Lake.
48:41 Speaker 06 Salt Lake is your favorite?
48:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, but Rhode Island is giving early Salt Lake. I'm telling you right now.
48:45 Speaker 06 Excitement about it.
48:46 Speaker 01 It is so good of me and someone I work with, Manny, have been talking about it all day.
48:52 Speaker 06 I saw it as I was scrolling, cause I, Friday is this Beverly Hills, so I was, you know, searching for that one. And I saw it and I was like, hmm, I don't know. Like, I'm always suspicious of a new Housewives. I'm like, cause Dubai didn't quite work.
49:07 Speaker 01 Well, that like.
49:09 Speaker 06 Vancouver, really? No, it's Canada. They're all nice. You can't like do a Housewives in Vancouver.
49:15 Speaker 01 The reason Rhode Island works is cause.
49:16 Speaker 06 Oh, I'm so sorry.
49:18 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
49:19 Speaker 06 Apologizing to each other constantly.
49:21 Speaker 01 The reason Rhode Island works is because they could have gone two ways. They could have gone like very high end women who don't want to share anything.
49:28 Speaker 06 Yeah.
49:29 Speaker 01 Or they could have gone with women who are like, this is my moment to make it on reality television. I will reveal all. And that's what they went with. And it worked.
49:38 Speaker 06 Mic drop. Let's go. Let's cut this bitch. I gotta go.
49:41 Speaker 01 Well, Charlize, thank you so much for coming on.
49:43 Speaker 06 Thank you. I really appreciate this. Thank you. This is so fun, really fun.
49:47 Speaker 01 Yes, I'm glad, I'm glad you had a good time too.
49:48 Speaker 06 Thank you. Bye pussies.
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