‘Friday the 13th’ With Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, and Van Lathan
Hosted by Bill Simmons and Chris Ryan
- 1h 45m
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Summary
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Bill Simmons, Chris Ryan, Van Lathan, and Craig examine the 1980 horror classic Friday the 13th, discussing its low-budget origins as an unabashed Halloween rip-off, its lack of Jason Voorhees as the primary killer, and its status as the launchpad for a massive slasher franchise. The hosts debate the effectiveness of the camp counselors, the cultural backdrop of 1980 America, and the surprisingly poor fight choreography between the final girl Alice and Pamela Voorhees, while praising the iconic jump scare in the final canoe scene.
- Sean Cunningham used a bold trade ad campaign in Variety to secure funding for Friday the 13th by openly leaning into the success of Halloween. 17:35
- The iconic musical cue composed by Harry Manfredini is correctly heard as kiki, mama, kiki, mama rather than choo-choo, ha-ha-ha. 59:39
- Friday the 13th stands as a prime example of an independent film created on a tiny budget that launched a lucrative, long-running horror franchise. 21:19
Chapters
- 0:06Podcast Intro and Sponsor Segments
Hosts introduce the episode and run through several ad spots before segueing into the main discussion.
- 2:58Setting the Stage for Friday the 13th
The hosts announce their plan to cover the Friday the 13th franchise, noting it’s a new addition to their lineup.
- 7:58Early Horror Memories and Advertising Impact
A host shares childhood memories of Friday the 13th ads and how they shaped his perception of the film.
- 17:35Analyzing the Franchise’s Evolution
The conversation explores how Friday the 13th evolved from a simple copy of Halloween into a long‑running franchise with its own identity.
- 22:57Comparing Horror Icons and Franchise Dynamics
Hosts compare Jason, Freddy, and Michael Myers, debating which characters sustain a franchise and why.
- 37:10Camp Setting, Tropes, and Characterization
They dissect the camp setting, character archetypes, and the use of teenage innocence in the film’s early scenes.
- 39:02Death Scenes and Horror Mechanics
The group breaks down memorable death scenes, the mechanics of gore, and how the film balances shock with narrative.
- 43:49The Final Twist and Legacy
Discussion of the film’s climactic reveal, its influence on later horror tropes, and the lasting legacy of Friday the 13th.
- 45:02Wrap‑Up and Final Thoughts
Hosts conclude the episode with final reflections on the franchise and tease future rewatchable projects.
- 45:38Revisiting Carrie’s Backstory
The hosts revisit the character Carrie, debating her telekinetic powers and the moral implications of her violent actions.
- 46:46Iconic Horror Camp Origins
Discussion shifts to the origins of the summer camp setting in horror films, citing early examples like Jaws and the evolution of the trope.
- 48:55Kevin Bacon’s Rewatchable Legacy
The conversation turns to Kevin Bacon’s filmography, listing his most memorable roles and debating his status as a mid‑level leading man.
- 1:00:00Meta‑Horror and Cultural Commentary
The dialogue moves into meta‑analysis, covering themes like the “town crazy,” cultural expiration, and the representation of black characters in horror.
Highlights
- 2:58
Discussing the Franchise's Origininsight
Bill Simmons explains why the hosts had to go back and cover the origin story of the franchise, acknowledging that later sequels like Part 4 and Jason Takes Manhattan are much funnier.
- 4:01
A True Blue-Blood Horror Iconinsight
Van Lathan points out that Jason Voorhees is a blue-blood horror icon on par with college basketball programs like Duke and Kentucky, despite not actually appearing as a killer in the first movie.
- 7:22
Bill Simmons Remembers The Adsstory
Bill Simmons shares personal stories about being terrified by the thirty-second commercial for the film in the summer of 1980 and hearing about a theatergoer running up the aisle in panic.
- 14:59
Ranking the Big Three Killersdebate
The hosts debate the Mount Rushmore of slasher villains, agreeing that Michael Myers, Freddy Krueger, and Jason Voorhees form the definitive top three of the genre.
- 20:09
The Ultimate Rip-off Strategystrategy
Bill Simmons details how producer Sean Cunningham unabashedly ripped off Halloween by taking out an ad in Variety to fund a yearly slasher franchise.
- 21:53
Casting Unknown Actors on Purposedata
Chris Ryan and Bill Simmons discuss how the filmmakers could not afford stars like Sally Field, forcing them to cast unknowns who could then be brutally and unexpectedly killed off.
- 1:12:43
The Shocking Canoe Jump Scareinsight
Chris Ryan and the hosts react to the famous final scene where young Jason bursts out of the water, calling it a genuinely shocking moment that totally catches viewers off guard.
- 1:18:27
Friday 2 as the Best Sequelinsight
Chris Ryan argues that the massive quality leap from the first film to Friday the 13th Part 2 makes it the greatest sequel of all time, surpassing Empire Strikes Back and Godfather Part II.
Quotes
“It wouldn't be my first choice to do this out of the Friday the 13th franchises, but I felt like we had to.”
Bill Simmons · 3:01 “The producer Sean Cunningham saw Halloween was successful, came up with this idea, put an ad in Variety in the next summer saying, hey, I'm gonna make this movie called Friday the 13th. Does anyone wanna fund it?”
Bill Simmons · 17:35 “The whole decade is gratuitous.”
Bill Simmons · 26:51 “I know, her mom abused her.”
Bill Simmons · 45:38 “She had telekinetic powers, she had no control over it, they fucking drove her crazy.”
Bill Simmons · 45:55 “Kids dying right after having premarital sex, cause they shouldn't have done that.”
Bill Simmons · 47:06 “The only other one I had was The Score.”
Bill Simmons · 59:24 “I thought it was choo-choo.”
Bill Simmons · 59:31 “Kevin Bacon apparently claims that he gets asked to sign screenshots from his death scene in this movie more than all his other movies.”
Bill Simmons · 1:30:40 “The biggest picky nit is his mom of or he's athletic enough to pull off anything in this movie.”
Bill Simmons · 1:36:03
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About this episode
Bill, Chris, and Van, head to Camp Blood for a fun summer at the lake and to revisit the 1980 horror classic ‘Friday the 13th’ starring Betsy Palmer, Adrienne King, and Kevin Bacon. Whalefall in theaters Friday. Get tickets now: https://fandango.com/whalefall-2026-246280/movie-overview Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
Transcript
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Topics
- Halloween
- Camp Blood
- Friday the 13th
- Boston
- The Big Chill
- Temptation Island
- Texas Chainsaw Massacre
- Camp Crystal Lake
- Good Will Hunting
- Grease
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