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#2561 - LL Cool J

The Joe Rogan Experience

2h 38m
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The guest joins the host for a wide-ranging conversation about early hip-hop history, the challenges of fame, martial arts, and ancient history. The guest reflects on signing with Def Jam at age sixteen, working with Rick Rubin, and introducing hip-hop to places like Maine during the genre's infancy. They discuss the importance of discipline, humility, and maintaining a beginner's mindset through practices like Brazilian jiu-jitsu. The discussion also touches on grand strategy, ancient civilizations, quantum physics, and time travel.

  • Maintain your hunger and drive rather than living life defensively and avoiding challenges. 57:36
  • Keep life simple and focus on authenticity instead of over-complicating your work. 1:25:04
  • Embrace discomfort and be willing to do difficult things to achieve personal growth. 18:56
  • Base your decisions on intuition and inner conviction rather than outside opinions. 1:18:41

Chapters

  1. 0:01
    Joe Rogan Meets LL Cool J

    Joe Rogan greets LL Cool J, recalling their first encounter at an NBC event and setting the stage for the interview.

  2. 1:05
    Hip‑Hop’s Cultural Impact

    LL Cool J reflects on how hip‑hop empowered marginalized youth, contrasted with mainstream media, and the evolution of the genre.

  3. 5:20
    Lessons on Humility and Growth

    LL Cool J emphasizes humility, learning from mistakes, and the value of continuous personal development.

  4. 5:54
    Martial Arts and Personal Discipline

    LL Cool J talks about his jiu‑jitsu training, the humility it brings, and how martial arts shape his mindset and resilience.

  5. 8:26
    Navigating Fame and Authenticity

    LL Cool J explains his perspective on celebrity, staying grounded, and the importance of authenticity over fame.

  6. 14:06
    The Power of Reading and Strategy

    LL Cool J shares his love for books, from Clausewitz to modern strategy, and how reading informs his approach to life and business.

  7. 44:26
    Legacy and Influence in Music

    LL Cool J discusses his influence on hip‑hop, collaborations with peers, and the lasting impact of early hip‑hop pioneers.

  8. 45:01
    Closing Reflections and Future Outlook

    LL Cool J wraps up by reflecting on his career, future projects, and advice for aspiring artists.

  9. 45:39
    Balancing Art and Life

    The conversation opens with a reflection on maintaining balance between artistic expression and everyday responsibilities.

  10. 46:15
    Global Hip‑Hop Influence

    Discussion shifts to how hip‑hop spread worldwide, with early pioneers in France, Germany, Japan, and Brazil.

  11. 47:06
    Cultural Respect Through Music

    The speakers explore how exposure to international hip‑hop broadened their worldview and fostered respect for diverse cultures.

  12. 49:20
    Sports and Athletic Foundations

    The dialogue moves to how sports like basketball, tennis, and soccer contribute to movement and footwork essential for MMA fighters.

  13. 54:14
    Early Career and Family Roots

    LL Cool J recounts discovering his boxing lineage and the impact of family on his musical journey.

  14. 1:00:28
    Mindset and Relentlessness

    The hosts discuss the importance of mindset, animal instincts, and relentless pursuit in achieving success.

  15. 1:02:21
    Rick Rubin Collaboration

    The conversation turns to the pivotal collaboration with producer Rick Rubin and the creation of early records.

  16. 1:16:20
    Taste and Creative Vision

    LL Cool J explains how taste, authenticity, and creative vision guided his artistic choices.

  17. 1:23:27
    Simplicity in Art and Life

    The hosts emphasize the power of simplicity, both in music production and in everyday decision making.

  18. 1:32:03
    Legacy and Future Inspiration

    The episode concludes with reflections on legacy, the importance of perseverance, and inspiring future generations.

  19. 1:34:19
    Multiverse Mindset Game

    They play a mental exercise imagining different life choices and the impact of perseverance over five years.

  20. 1:35:41
    Martial Arts as Personal Growth

    Discussion of how martial arts teach humility, respect, and unlock human potential, using belt progression as a metaphor.

Highlights

  • 1:20

    Unimpressed by Hollywood Industrystory

    The guest recalls meeting the host at an NBC upfronts event in 1994, where the guest was openly mocking the corporate presentation.

  • 2:15

    Signing at Sixteendata

    The guest explains how Def Jam was formed by Rick Rubin and Russell Simmons, leading to him becoming their first signed act at age sixteen.

  • 6:33

    The Humility of Jiu-Jitsuinsight

    The guest discusses starting Brazilian jiu-jitsu and how combat sports quickly shatter any false sense of toughness.

  • 14:43

    The Clausewitzian Trinityinsight

    The guest applies Carl von Clausewitz's military strategy concepts to modern society, noting how current times operate on passion and emotion.

  • 24:34

    Bruce Lee as a Pioneerinsight

    The host and guest discuss Bruce Lee's revolutionary impact on martial arts by combining multiple disciplines into mixed martial arts.

  • 1:11:41

    Buying the First Korg Machinestory

    After receiving a rejection letter, the guest's mother used her tax return to buy him a Korg drum machine to pursue his music career.

  • 1:55:48

    Inspiration is for Amateursinsight

    The discussion turns to the reality of creative work, noting that waiting for inspiration is an amateur trait while professionals simply show up and work.

Quotes

  • “I was just getting, it was just still weird for me to be around famous people.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:10
  • “I was a kid, and I was, when I was coming up, the first time I heard Sugar Hill Gang was, I was in a lunchroom.”
    Unnamed speaker · 29:04
  • “You have to treat your life like you, you know, attitude determines your altitude, right? So you gotta.”
    Unnamed speaker · 19:39
  • “You gotta be comfortable being uncomfortable. Like, you gotta be able to keep going.”
    Unnamed speaker · 19:02
  • “You can look at a man's eyes and tell his rank.”
    Unnamed speaker · 55:45
  • “You have to be relentless. The book is great, by the way, people should check it out.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:06:31
  • “I always followed that. Like there was times I would tell Rick, nah, uh-uh, nah Rick, that ain't it.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:18:51
  • “But creativity is the thing that's gonna make you the greatest competitor.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:33:08
  • “He said martial arts are a vehicle for developing your human potential.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:35:32
  • “It's not even balance, it's harmony.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:46:57
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About this episode

LL Cool J is a Grammy Award-winning rapper, actor, and philanthropist. Look for him on "NCIS: New York," premiering October 6 on CBS and streaming the next day on Paramount+.www.paramountplus.com/shows/ncis-new-york/www.youtube.com/c/LLCoolJwww.wearefamilyfoundation.orgwww.llcoolj.com Perplexity: Download the app or ask Perplexity anything at https://pplx.ai/rogan. Don’t miss out on all the action this week at DraftKings! Download the DraftKings app today! Sign-up using https://dkng.co/rogan or through my promo code ROGAN. Switch today at https://www. Visible.com for just 25/mo. Or Save $10 on your first month of Visible+ Pro with code ROGAN. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Transcript

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31,382 words · 6 speakers

Topics

  • Sanskrit
  • AI
  • Def Jam
  • Colosseum
  • Sugar Hill
  • Pyramids
  • Beastie Boys
  • ChatGPT
  • Bhagavad Gita
  • Grandmaster Flash and the Furious 4

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