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The Car Middleman with David Gborie

Scam Goddess

Hosted by Laci Mosley

1h 3m
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In this episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley is joined by comedian David Gborie to discuss personal run-ins with scams, from buying signed prints advertised as original art at a Colorado hotel auction to navigating currency exchanges while traveling. The conversation then turns to the automotive industry, exploring Tommy McCula, a former car salesman who charges a thousand-dollar flat fee to negotiate car prices on behalf of buyers through his service, Delivered. The host and guest debate whether paying a middleman for negotiation services helps everyday buyers or simply preys on consumers exhausted by predatory dealership tactics, hidden fees, and the lack of transparency in modern car buying. Finally, the episode highlights rapper Afro Man winning a defamation lawsuit against police officers who raided his home, establishing a precedent for criticizing public officials under the First Amendment.

  • Avoid visiting car dealerships in person initially, as spending hours on a car lot creates a sunk cost fallacy that pressures buyers into accepting unfavorable deals. 47:06
  • Never let a dealership run your credit score or complete a credit application until you have agreed on a final purchase price for the vehicle. 1:06:35
  • Do not pay extra for nitrogen-filled tires with green stem caps when regular air already consists mostly of nitrogen and makes no functional difference. 1:04:23
  • Public officials such as police officers acting in their official capacity have no expectation of privacy inside someone else's home, protecting the right to criticize them under the First Amendment. 1:12:54

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Podcast Intro and Host Greeting

    The episode opens with the host, Laci Mosley, introducing herself and setting the stage for a comedic discussion on scams and fraud.

  2. 5:02
    David Borey's Background and Early Career

    David Borey shares his early work as a stand‑up comedian and his experience voicing characters for Comedy Central.

  3. 5:45
    Personal Reflections on Scams and Entrepreneurship

    David and Laci share personal anecdotes about scams, entrepreneurship, and the desire to help others avoid being scammed.

  4. 8:00
    The Car Middleman Concept

    Laci introduces Tommy McCula, a former car dealer turned middleman who negotiates lower prices for buyers for a fee.

  5. 12:00
    Debating the Ethics of Middlemen

    The hosts debate whether Tommy’s services are a helpful consumer tool or a new form of exploitation.

  6. 17:34
    Closing Thoughts and Call to Action

    The episode wraps up with a call to listeners to stay informed, avoid scams, and consider ethical business practices.

  7. 44:05
    Car Negotiation Tactics Revealed

    The hosts dissect Tommy’s strategy of avoiding dealership visits and leveraging phone calls to secure lower car prices.

  8. 46:59
    The Role of the Middleman in Car Buying

    Discussion of how Tommy positions himself as a middleman, charging $1,000 for his services and the ethical questions surrounding it.

  9. 1:04:03
    Hidden Fees and Add‑Ons in Dealerships

    Exploration of common dealership add‑ons—nitrogen tires, paint protection, subscriptions—and how they inflate vehicle costs.

  10. 1:06:19
    Credit Scams and Racial Bias in Financing

    Hosts warn about credit‑checking tactics, pre‑approval pitfalls, and the historical racism embedded in auto financing.

  11. 1:09:23
    The Debate Over Tommy’s Public Service

    A candid debate on whether Tommy’s services genuinely help consumers or simply add another layer of cost.

  12. 1:11:04
    Afro Man’s Free‑Speech Legal Victory

    A recap of Afro Man’s lawsuit against Ohio police, highlighting the First Amendment implications.

Highlights

  • 7:35

    Buying Art at an Auctionstory

    David Gborie shares how he and a friend were scammed into buying signed prints by famous artists like Matisse and Keith Haring at a hotel auction in Colorado, believing they were purchasing original masterworks.

  • 31:09

    The Car Middleman Serviceinsight

    Laci Mosley introduces Tommy McCula, a former car dealership employee who founded Delivered, charging a thousand-dollar flat fee to negotiate car purchases on behalf of buyers.

  • 37:27

    Delivered Revenue and Teamdata

    Delivered employs five professional negotiators and generates about $200,000 in revenue a month by haggling on buyers' behalf for a flat fee.

  • 1:00:51

    Rising Car Pricesdata

    The average transaction price for a new car reached $49,466 by December 2025, with one in five buyers committing to a monthly car payment of $1,000 or more.

  • 1:11:56

    Afro Man Defamation Lawsuitstory

    Rapper Afro Man won a defamation lawsuit filed against seven Ohio sheriff's deputies who raided his home, protecting his right to use home security footage in music videos and memes.

Quotes

  • “I care because it's what I was put on this earth to do.”
    Laci Mosley · 0:12
  • “I love scams since boyhood.”
    Unnamed speaker · 5:45
  • “The average transaction price of a new car is $49,466 in December of 2025, up from $40,578 five years earlier.”
    Laci Mosley · 1:00:51
  • “You can do the same thing Tommy's doing, using his techniques, without paying anyone.”
    Laci Mosley · 1:00:14
  • “A sunk cost is when you have already paid into something and not had your desired output.”
    Laci Mosley · 48:07
  • “If you have a lower score, the first step is getting pre‑approved, ideally through your own bank, which knows your history.”
    Laci Mosley · 1:09:02
  • “A thousand is a really high car note, that's like.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:01:35
  • “The people who were here first, they Columbusin'.”
    Laci Mosley · 1:02:16
  • Dr. Teal 30:09–31:08
  • Ford 35:02–35:33
  • Toyota 39:02–39:15
  • KISSIMTA 55:03–55:09
  • OnDeck 55:10–55:33
  • Zillow 55:40–55:56
  • United Healthcare 56:05–56:33
  • Rexulti 57:00–57:27
  • Dr. Teal 57:31–57:40
  • Valvoline 1:04:31–1:04:45
  • Clinique 1:17:21–1:17:47
  • Pepperidge Farm 1:18:13–1:18:48

About this episode

Buying a car is stressful, but is it worth a stack to hire a middleman to negociate for you? Juruys still out, but comedian and voice of comedy central, David Gborie is here to help Laci get to the bottom of this scam. Along the way these long time friends discuss that time David bought fancy art in the middle of Colorado and why credit scores are a scham to withhold wealth from the Black community. SOCIALS: David Gborie: @coolguyjokes87 https://www.instagram.com/coolguyjokes87/?hl=en Laci Mosley: @divalaci WE'RE ON YOUTUBE: Join us on YouTube! See Laci, the guests, and fraudsters: https://www.youtube.com/@ScamGoddess SOURCES: https://www.wsj.com/business/autos/tomi-mikula-youtube-car-buying-negotiations-4a4c3d63?mod=mhp https://www.wsj.com/personal-finance/the-guy-who-made-a-career-out-of-negotiating-car-prices-answers-your-questions-2b50557d?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqfMpmeOplWlJUvQk6hI84xJlmKvbMLEGKBy24Va_meMUWb5LBXwdj2VgOICRzY%3D&gaa_ts=69c460f0&gaa_sig=7Wbqu7-FkckPduY7NZabVPpjGjthyPNNUMSH_ZPUM3OJcPO0TT2bfMPF08NSRZV0TZo54ACD6_U9_ZJ6qw9_xQ%3D%3D https://www.wsj.com/personal-finance/the-guy-who-made-a-career-out-of-negotiating-car-prices-answers-your-questions-2b50557d?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqfMpmeOplWlJUvQk6hI84xJlmKvbMLEGKBy24Va_meMUWb5LBXwdj2VgOICRzY%3D&gaa_ts=69c460f0&gaa_sig=7Wbqu7-FkckPduY7NZabVPpjGjthyPNNUMSH_ZPUM3OJcPO0TT2bfMPF08NSRZV0TZo54ACD6_U9_ZJ6qw9_xQ%3D%3D https://www.wsj.com/personal-finance/car-price-purchase-negotiate-d0bef925?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqc2rFqXcwYKnzl-kob44qHQbm_owMAPG-PKZiRiDiipDRRh7RAjknt7PXketX8%3D&gaa_ts=69c451a7&gaa_sig=HXfBC6b8TR0dV2aqMcjdV8ixgLYj9OeFvitobxYoNgJ6uCaGvzEZxOXHakt7e-K5Cdl_SLtDGKcHhYQx_10N3Q%3D%3D https://www.wsj.com/personal-finance/car-price-purchase-negotiate-d0bef925?gaa_at=eafs&gaa_n=AWEtsqc2rFqXcwYKnzl-kob44qHQbm_owMAPG-PKZiRiDiipDRRh7RAjknt7PXketX8%3D&gaa_ts=69c451a7&gaa_sig=HXfBC6b8TR0dV2aqMcjdV8ixgLYj9OeFvitobxYoNgJ6uCaGvzEZxOXHakt7e-K5Cdl_SLtDGKcHhYQx_10N3Q%3D%3D https://www.pbs.org/newshour/classroom/daily-news-lessons/2026/03/afroman-prevails-in-defamation-lawsuit-brought-by-police https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2026/03/23/afroman-police-pound-cake-free-speech/ See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Transcript

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Topics

  • Nashville
  • Colorado
  • 911 Nashville
  • Kansas
  • Quest Diagnostics
  • Hulu
  • Better Business Bureau
  • Celtic Bank
  • TrustPilot
  • ABC

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