Summary
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In this episode of Scam Goddess, host Laci Mosley is joined by comedian and actress Miss Pat to discuss early criminal exploits, telephone scams, and the controversial history of the D.A.R.E. program. Miss Pat shares candid stories about running check forgery operations in her youth using stolen checkbooks from her brother's burglaries and learning the trade from a crackhead. Later, the conversation shifts to Historic Hoodwinks, exploring how the D.A.R.E. program was created by LAPD Chief Daryl Gates in the 1980s as a front to place police officers in schools under Nancy Reagan's watchful eye, despite independent studies proving it never reduced youth drug use.
- Scammers calling impersonating banks should be handled by telling them to call back using the verified number on the back of a credit card. 11:58
- The D.A.R.E. program was originally developed by the LAPD in 1983 as an initiative to place police officers into school classrooms. 26:58
- Multiple independent studies have shown that students who completed the 17-week D.A.R.E. curriculum were just as likely to use drugs as those who did not. 29:57
- The D.A.R.E. program utilized an anonymous shoebox drop box where students could inform police about suspected drug users in their homes. 43:05
Chapters
- 0:00
- 4:23Podcast Intro and Host Greeting
Host Laci Mosley welcomes listeners, introduces Miss Pat, and sets the tone for a comedy podcast about scams.
- 6:00Miss Pat's Scam History
Miss Pat recounts her early involvement in check kiting, forgery, and how she learned the tricks from a crackhead.
- 7:03Miss Pat's Perspective on Scams Today
Miss Pat reflects on how modern scams differ from her era and how people can protect themselves.
- 12:00Origins of D.A.R.E.
Miss Pat explains how D.A.R.E. was created by the LAPD in the 1980s to curb drug use in schools.
- 29:57Effectiveness of D.A.R.E.
The hosts debate whether D.A.R.E. actually reduces drug use, citing studies that show little impact.
- 43:00Closing Remarks and Outro
The episode wraps up with final thoughts, a reminder to stay safe from scams, and a brief outro.
- 44:13Personal Anecdotes and Cultural Commentary
The conversation shifts to personal stories, cultural references, and the hosts’ views on race, identity, and media representation.
- 44:55DARE’s Expansion and Parent Involvement
The conversation covers DARE’s rapid growth, training programs, and the creation of a parent program to monitor youth drug use.
- 46:33Political Endorsements and Funding Debate
The hosts debate the political support DARE received from presidents and the financial implications of police involvement in education.
- 1:14:08Wrap‑Up and Future Plans
The episode concludes with the hosts reflecting on the discussion, teasing future content, and promoting their own projects and social media presence.
Highlights
- 5:35
Handling Phone Scammers Directlystory
Miss Pat explains how she handles frequent scam callers pretending to be from banks by telling them off directly.
- 9:50
Learning Check Forgery From a Crackheadstory
Miss Pat describes how her brother stole checkbooks from cars, and how a local crackhead taught her how to forge checks.
- 29:57
Studies Prove Ineffectivenessdata
Laci highlights how over a dozen independent studies concluded that D.A.R.E. failed to reduce actual drug usage among students.
- 30:14
The Origins of D.A.R.E.insight
Laci and Miss Pat discuss how the D.A.R.E. program was born out of the LAPD in the 1980s under police chief Daryl Gates.
- 43:05
The Classroom Snitch Boxinsight
The hosts break down the anonymous tip box feature in D.A.R.E. classrooms designed to encourage students to inform on family members.
- 1:07:41
A discussion of how the program sometimes led to extreme police raids on families after young children were pressured by officers.
Quotes
“I was at a gas station one time, and it was one that I was getting gas at.”
Unnamed speaker · 13:15 “Dupixent helps people breathe better in as little as two weeks.”
Laci Mosley · 3:00 “I don't think they raised my limit in thirty years, but it's just a.”
Unnamed speaker · 13:52 “At least a dozen independent studies found that kids who go through this 17 week program are just as likely to use drugs as those who don't.”
Laci Mosley · 29:57 “I say, do what you gotta do. Just don't vote my money.”
Unnamed speaker · 5:23 “So, LIPD used veteran police officers in their uniforms on purpose.”
Laci Mosley · 44:14 “They believed that the youth drug crisis was so advanced that students as young as the fifth grade were so savvy about drugs and drug culture that teachers couldn't handle it.”
Laci Mosley · 44:19 “They were like, no, we need to have our veteran police officers come in in uniform.”
Laci Mosley · 44:44 “I did. You don't wear from. Technically, you can't huff paint.”
Laci Mosley · 46:02 “President Reagan started National Dare Day. Tradition that continued every year through the Obama presidency.”
Laci Mosley · 46:33
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About this episode
The iconic stand-up comedian Ms. Pat makes her debut on Scam Goddess. Laci tries to gently break the news that the D. A. R. E. program was designed by the same man who was in charge when Rodney King was beaten by the police and who invented SWAT. Ms. Pat discusses sharing a Sears credit card, past scheming, and Smokey the Bear. SOCIALS: Ms. Pat: @comediennemspat https://www.instagram.com/comediennemspat/?hl=en Laci Mosley: @divalaci WE'RE ON YOUTUBE: Join us on YouTube! See Laci, the guests, and fraudsters: https://www.youtube.com/@ScamGoddess Pre-Order Ms. Pats book here: https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/Ms-American-Dream/Patricia-Williams-Lee/9781668044216 SOURCES https://www.instagram.com/p/DQ2isCBlVhw/ https://www.publicbooks.org/dare-is-more-than-just-anti-drug-education-it-is-police-propaganda/ https://www.npr.org/2023/11/09/1211217460/fentanyl-drug-education-dare https://www.silvermistrecovery.com/the-downfall-of-d-a-r-e-how-a-failed-program-shaped-substance-use-trends/ https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/dope/dare/truth.html https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC1448384/ https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/full/10.1080/09687637.2016.1208731 https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1993-09-09-mn-33226-story.html https://slate.com/human-interest/2023/09/dare-history-police-surveillance-schools.html https://priceonomics.com/dare-the-anti-drug-program-that-never-actually/ https://www.teenvogue.com/story/dare-program-reshape-image-police-officers See omnystudio.com/listener https://omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.
Transcript
16,667 words · 7 speakers
Speaker names marked are inferred from speaking time and the show’s known hosts — they are not voice-verified.
Topics
- DARE
- LAPD
- Hulu
- Celtic Bank
- Arm & Hammer Deep Clean
- Pepperidge Farm
- Apple
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