Pod Insights Scam Goddess Fraud Friday: The Scheming Superintendent w/ Tracy Clayton About this episode Tracy Clayton joins the Con-gregation to talk about Frank Tassone—the superintendent with a 4.0 average in fraud! Frank stole $11.2 million from a Long Island school district and was later portrayed by Hugh Jackman in the HBO movie Bad Education. Plus, we cover a good old-fashioned pyramid scheme from Tracy and Laci’s favorite white woman: Tyra Banks! Stay schemin'! (Originally Released 06/01/2020)
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Research by Sharilyn Vera
SOURCES:
https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/bad-education-hbo-true-story-scandal-fact-check-992263/
https://www.townandcountrymag.com/leisure/arts-and-culture/a32291684/bad-education-hbo-true-story-frank-tassone-pamela-gluckin/
https://www.esquire.com/entertainment/movies/a32268352/bad-education-hbo-true-story-frank-tassone-now/
https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2019/09/hugh-jackman-movie-bad-education-scandal
https://www.thecut.com/2016/06/tyra-banks-beautytainer.html
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2:01 Laci Mosley? What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Welcome to an episode of Fraud Fridays, where we release older episodes from the Scam Goddess vault. That's right, Fraud Fridays is where we bring back your favorite episodes from behind the paywall. Enjoy this episode from behind the paywall, and as always, stay schemin'.
2:43 Laci Mosley? What's poppin', congregation? Welcome back to another installment of Scam Goddess. And yes, we are doing these remote episodes, Hanny. I just took a ginger sip from my water, very far away from my computer, as I had to buy a new one because I was scammed out of a computer by water. This is Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, and I'm super excited. I always say this for our next guest, and I am still excited, guys. Something has to stay normal. You've heard her on the Strong Black Lead Podcast, which she hosts by Netflix, and you've seen her all over Twitter as Brokey Big Poverty, one of my favorite Twitter accounts to follow. I have Ms. Tracy Claye!
3:22 Laci Mosley? How are you?
3:24 Speaker 04 Stupid excited to be here. My dream is only to talk about true crime in any form or fashion, and I think this is only the second time I've been able to do it, like, where it's welcome and expected. Usually I'm at, like, parties, like, "So, who do you think killed JonBenet?" And so this, you know, is a more appropriate situation to discuss. Also, I love a scam!
3:45 Laci Mosley? Yes, also, what a throwback. You at the party, like, over the coup de grace, like, "Yeah, so, I really still think it was the brother." "Man, this happened in 91."
3:57 Speaker 04 They still be making shows and stuff about it. Also, I do think it was the brother, I just wanna say.
4:01 Laci Mosley? Oh, really? You do think it was the brother?
4:04 Speaker 04 I can't shake the thought, yeah, because I mean, nothing else makes sense, you know?
4:09 Laci Mosley? Right, cuz why would they cover it up? Cuz JonBenet was about to be their cash cow. She was gonna get him all the coins.
4:15 Speaker 04 Exactly, exactly.
4:17 Laci Mosley? They wouldn't kill her. She was a bad bitch you could never kill. I guess I shouldn't, I guess I shouldn't call a five year old a bad bitch you could never kill, but she was really bad. Oh, anyways.
4:29 Speaker 04 Oh, Lord.
4:30 Laci Mosley? I like to get canceled at the beginning of the episode. That's what I like to get canceled.
4:35 Speaker 04 You know, gotta keep you on your toes.
4:37 Laci Mosley? Right. Um, yes, so good. Okay, so your relationship with scams, you would say like you like, you like scammers, you like scam stories. Have you ever been scammed? Have you ever been involved in anything?
4:49 Speaker 04 Oh, absolutely. I feel like I get scammed every time I walk out my door. I live in Brooklyn, so I mean, it's pretty much what happens.
4:56 Laci Mosley? Big facts, big facts. New York, you have to keep your head on a swivel at all times. I used to live there and it got
5:02 Speaker 04 Constantly.
5:03 Laci Mosley? It got too stressful for me. I was just, I wanted to fight everybody all the time.
5:08 Speaker 04 Yep, yep. Sounds about right. Nothing has changed, in case you were, in case you were wondering. Also, all of my friends are moving to LA and I'm just like, what about me? They're gonna leave me out here to deal with all this by myself.
5:19 Laci Mosley? Oh, eventually we gonna get your ass, Tracy. They all have to move at some point.
5:23 Speaker 04 Please do.
5:24 Laci Mosley? They all have to come over to the
5:26 Speaker 04 Please do.
5:27 Laci Mosley? The light side, but also the dark side.
5:31 Speaker 04 They all need good mental health at some point.
5:33 Laci Mosley? Right. Everybody needs a run on Runyon Canyon and a green juice, honey. Eventually, we get you all.
5:39 Speaker 04 Uh, I don't know about the juice.
5:43 Speaker 04 Oh, but yes, I do love a scam.
5:46 Laci Mosley? Yes, I'm glad. I see the way your face lights up. We met on Twitter and I actually was tweeting to people about the show and people were like, you have to have Tracy, you have to have Tracy. And I already followed you and I think you're so funny and great on Twitter, so I was like, absolutely. Like, girl, please, uh, where? I'm sliding the DM.
6:03 Speaker 04 Thank you.
6:03 Laci Mosley? So, thank you for responding to my DM. You know what I mean? I didn't even have to use no eggplant or mail. G and nothing.
6:10 Speaker 04 I was like time and place. I'm a, I'm a cheap date. I'm easy. One of them fast little girls your grandmama warned you about.
6:17 Laci Mosley? Right. I, I was as well. I think that's why my mama kept me in the house. Cause she was like, you don't be trying to be out here. So I never really got to leave the house. Uh, I did a lot of, uh, thanks. Shout out to Tom from MySpace for making me a coder.
6:33 Speaker 04 You had to get them, uh, what do you call it? Uh, where the, where the thing is like, like the values or whatever. I done forgot all of my MySpace Academy.
6:41 Laci Mosley? Oh, the HTML codes? Oh yeah. Come on now.
6:44 Speaker 04 For the music and the little scrolling text.
6:48 Laci Mosley? Yes.
6:48 Speaker 04 I sure did. And I forgot everything.
6:51 Laci Mosley? I had a souped up page. I had the music. I remember I had, uh, me and you by Cassie. I've been waiting. If you're gonna make that move, tell her if you like it. That was on my page. Yo, Cassie has to thank MySpace for her career.
7:06 Speaker 04 Turns.
7:08 Laci Mosley? But, uh.
7:08 Speaker 04 Wow. That is a theory that needs examining.
7:11 Laci Mosley? I had.
7:12 Speaker 04 New podcast.
7:12 Laci Mosley? I had the rotating top eight, cause I'm chaotic good. I'm actually chaotic evil. So then every time you come to the page, you'll get a new person at number one. Keep all my friends on their toes.
7:25 Speaker 04 You got to, you got to. Don't sleep.
7:28 Laci Mosley? All right, guys, let's get into it. Uh, we're gonna start with our first segment here. What's hot in fraud? And this actually comes from the LAPD Facebook account, which is not a place I like to frequent. Um, I really don't fuck with the police.
7:42 Speaker 04 What you, how you get over there?
7:43 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you know, shout out to Cheryl and Vera, my research assistant. Cause she goes places I will not go. Uh, one of those places is the LAPD website.
7:54 Laci Mosley? I just be scared clicking on it. I be scared clicking on it. They gonna see me.
7:57 Speaker 04 You know?
8:01 Laci Mosley? Literally the other day, a cop was at my neighbor's door. I think they had like a child custody issue. Nothing like crazy, but the daughter like thing didn't wanna go to the daddy house. Was I listening through the peephole? Absolutely. Um. But I opened the door because I was about to go on a little walk and I saw the police officer. Girl, why I just close the door back and go back in my house?
8:24 Speaker 04 You know, you know damn well why you just close the door and went back in the house. Because you are too damn black to walk out confidently when police are that close, which is fucked up.
8:34 Laci Mosley? I know it's so fucked up and there's so much crazy stuff happening in the news. And sadly, it's no different than it has been years previous, but I was like, nope, not today. I was like, Sean King ain't about to make my go for me, closing that door right back.
8:49 Speaker 04 Shout out to Taco Mix.
8:51 Laci Mosley? Ooh, shout out to Martin Luther scheme.
8:57 Laci Mosley? That's a topic for another day, honey. But, uh, so.
9:01 Speaker 04 Ain't it though?
9:02 Laci Mosley? Ooh, it's a lot. I'm, I'm currently researching it and it's, there's a lot of deep diving happening and it's very fun and also very sad. But, um.
9:09 Speaker 04 Are you gonna do an episode on Sean King?
9:11 Laci Mosley? That I am, Tracy. I think that I am.
9:15 Speaker 04 Oh, my.
9:15 Laci Mosley? I've been flirting with it for a minute, but there's just too much stuff. You know, he once raised money to climb a mountain, then did not climb said mountain? Just crazy shit, crazy shit.
9:27 Speaker 04 How much money does it cost to climb a mountain?
9:29 Laci Mosley? Apparently eighty thousand dollars.
9:31 Speaker 04 Not in nature? Girl, what's a Kilimanjaro? What the hell?
9:36 Laci Mosley? He, he blew down his whole family. Listen, I can't get into all of this, but y'all, we will eventually get into this because it's just too much tea out here.
9:44 Speaker 04 I'm excited for that episode.
9:45 Laci Mosley? It's crazy.
9:46 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
9:47 Laci Mosley? But the LAPD website, that's what I was supposed to be talking about. I could barely talk about it. Um, Fraud Friday is what they call it. And, um, they, they said that they wanted to reach out to their constituency, you know, the people that they terrorized, you and me. Uh, and they said, look, we taking a break from beat y'all asses today to warn you about some scams happening in the zeitgeist. So apparently this, right? I guess, yeah. They said, we have used all, okay, so it says we've all used charging cables to charge up our phones in public areas. But whose charging cable are you using? May look like an ordinary charging cable could contain software that's specifically designed to disrupt, damage,
10:30 Laci Mosley? or gain unauthorized access to a computer system or a phone. Some information may be stolen from your devices, including passwords and other sensitive information. There are hackers tasked with uh breaking into the computers, systems of major companies or average citizens to expose vulnerabilities. So while many might think that modifying a charging cable would be expensive or complicated, it's not. Once you're exposed, it's relatively easy for the hacker to get a hold of your personal information. Now, I don't know about you, Tracy, but if somebody got a hold of my phone's information and like could unlock everything, I would be fucked.
11:04 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, I, I'm so paranoid about some shit like that happening to me. Like, I'm never caught without my charger in public. Cause I'm just like, number one, you never know when you're gonna get stranded somewhere and you might need to call a cab so you don't get serial killed.
11:22 Laci Mosley? About get serial.
11:23 Speaker 04 Being serial killed. Exactly, exactly. So, I mean, like, I'd never wanna have to like ask a stranger for like a charge, like to use a phone and nothing like that. I just don't, I just don't trust people. And you know what? This story is why you shouldn't. That is so messed up.
11:35 Laci Mosley? Right, that the, that the free, cause you know, it's been a really popular thing now, like in the airports and other public places where they'll have little charging stations. So you can just roll up and be like, oh, thank God. Like, it's already sitting there. They have it at bars now. So it's like, bring your own cord, guys. I.
11:53 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
11:55 Laci Mosley? And what was fascinating to me about this is I was like, if someone gained access to my cellphone, one thing that I feel like everybody does is like, look, I'm not using Apple's suggested pass code for shit. Look here, Steve Jobs. I'm not using your fucking sentence of numbers and letters so that I can never remember how to get into my Instagram again. Like, I'm not doing that.
12:18 Speaker 04 Exactly, exactly. I don't even like, it took me a long time to even start like having my devices store my passwords. Like, just in case. Because I was just like, as soon as somebody gets my phone, then they have my whole life, my bank account, my, my everything.
12:33 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you get my phone, you got everything. You got bank account to booty hole, anything you need, any fingerprint, like.
12:40 Speaker 04 She be doing it like that on the phone.
12:44 Laci Mosley? It's over for me.
12:46 Speaker 04 I ain't judging.
12:47 Laci Mosley? Just tell, oh you out there like that?
12:49 Speaker 04 Basically, if you lose your phone.
12:52 Speaker 04 Listen, you learn something new every day. So if you lose your phone, then basically you gonna have to leak your own nudes like immediately. You just gonna be like, well, listen, look.
12:59 Laci Mosley? Right. Well, I'm more mean metaphorical booty hole, cuz I actually don't take nudes. Um, and that's, I know. That's because I'm just like, I remember once a guy who's actually famous, I can't say his name, but he was texting with me and was like, oh, you know, like, send me a picture. And I sent him a picture of my face. And he was like, oh, let me see something else. And I was like, a nude? And he was like, I mean, yeah. And I was like, okay. So I took a photo and then I drew a body with some boobs on it and some ass. And I sent that to him. I was like, here you go, here go my nudes.
13:36 Speaker 04 You like them. Right, I want you.
13:41 Laci Mosley? I look cute, right? I tried to do it in the mirror for you. Like, bruh, you out of your damn mind. People are getting leaked out. Like, if I was in a career where there was anonymity and more privacy, maybe, but these days, everybody's phone getting hacked. I ain't having my booty hole out here on the internet like Vanessa Hudges. No shade to Vanessa.
14:04 Speaker 04 And I don't think I'm like technologically advanced enough to like, keep that from happening, you know? So I just like, just, just don't. I'm gonna have to get a burner phone to do some freaky shit.
14:14 Laci Mosley? Right. We gotta go get a flip phone.
14:16 Speaker 04 Give me a good little flip phone. Right.
14:18 Laci Mosley? And then I gotta get Bay a flip phone cuz the, the, uh, gifs, the photos will only develop on that low of technology.
14:26 Speaker 04 That's real.
14:27 Laci Mosley? That's how you know.
14:28 Speaker 04 Pixelated this shit. Like, what is this?
14:31 Laci Mosley? I know, your shit looking like a, like a puzzle. They're like, I don't know, the pieces don't seem like they where they supposed to be. Yeah, you gotta move around a little bit.
14:39 Speaker 04 Is this a picture of a mountain?
14:41 Laci Mosley? No, it is a titty. You just gotta keep, you gotta look at it in the light and squint.
14:46 Speaker 04 You gotta squint one eye up. Yep, stand on your left foot and tilt your head.
14:49 Laci Mosley? Right.
14:49 Speaker 04 Bam, nipple.
14:52 Laci Mosley? All that for some nipple, all that for some nipple. But yeah, like, I, I have the same like three or four passwords for everything. So if you got one variation, like you probably sent on me. You could just go and rob me.
15:04 Speaker 04 Well, good to know. Thanks for telling everybody your cheat codes. Somebody gonna be like, oh, I gotta go get a Lacy phone.
15:10 Laci Mosley? Right. Listen, I keep it close to my chest. I know I'm gonna get the brain cancer because my phone is always near my head. I was like, well, this is just is what it is.
15:19 Speaker 04 Not bad.
15:20 Laci Mosley? It is what it is. So guys, if you're out there and you're, and you're desperate for a charge, guys, as we always say with the Despo meter, we know y'all be getting desperate. Maybe you got an important phone call, maybe you got somewhere to be, maybe this is the first post quarantine booty call of your life and you just trying to make it. Make it to the house. Uh, watch out for just cables that are sitting around. There's one cable called the OMG cable that can cost about $200. And this cable cord can ca- uh, can take control of a Mac computer remotely, gaining access to passwords and sensitive in- information. So if you see anything with OMG on it, definitely don't use that.
15:56 Speaker 04 Yeah. Remotely? Dang.
15:58 Laci Mosley? I know. And, and, and there's, this kind of stuff has been happening, like there used to be voyeurs. I don't know if they still do this, but like when you would go to the gas station, there would be people who had hacked into the systems that you can pay for on the outside, external gas station places. And they would be lingering nearby to steal your card information and stuff like, so people have been.
16:18 Speaker 04 I remember that. I remember that.
16:19 Laci Mosley? And they keep elevating as much as we get ahead of them, you know, the scam industry constantly evolves and that's why I love it.
16:29 Laci Mosley? The ingenuity, you know what I'm talking about? Like just a.
16:32 Speaker 04 Right, right, right. Motivator.
16:35 Laci Mosley? Right. So if you guys are out there and you need to charge your phone, just check out the cable first, maybe just bring, do what I do, if you can afford it. I have a car charger cable that I only have in the car. I have a cable that I leave at the house and I have a cable that I put in my purse. You can put it in your man wallet or whatever you carry. And that way you don't have to like, because I used to bring them back and forth and I'll always lose them.
16:57 Speaker 04 Uh huh. Yep. Also, um, get you a little rechargeable battery pack. They're small these days. Charge them up before you leave the house. Because up here in New York, I'm just like, car charger. I ain't got one. I don't have a car to put that in.
17:09 Laci Mosley? Oh, right.
17:10 Speaker 04 There are options.
17:11 Laci Mosley? You're right, you're right. You're on the train. You're absolutely right about that. You are on the train. And I don't know if it-
17:16 Speaker 04 On the train with the Rona.
17:18 Laci Mosley? If some of the trains have plugs, though, don't they? Am I crazy? Is that just the white people train?
17:24 Speaker 04 I think you might be.
17:25 Laci Mosley? I feel like I've charged my phone on the train. Because you know, the white areas got Wi-Fi.
17:31 Speaker 04 Oh, the white areas got everything. The white areas got gold watermelon.
17:35 Laci Mosley? Right. No cops waiting at the entrance to beat you over-
17:39 Speaker 04 Right.
17:39 Laci Mosley? Over a dollar twenty-five, dollar seventy-five.
17:42 Speaker 04 Exactly. They help you get off the train. It's wild.
17:45 Laci Mosley? It's like, you're here to help me? Police?
17:48 Speaker 04 What, champ- champagne for me? Oh, my gosh, thanks.
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18:57 Laci Mosley? I know this is in the zeitgeist, I do just have to mention this, that uh woman, Amy Cooper, that Twitter ruined her life.
19:05 Speaker 04 Yes ma'am.
19:06 Laci Mosley? Shout out to Twitter.
19:07 Speaker 04 Amy Cooper ruined her own life?
19:09 Laci Mosley? Amy Cooper ruined her own life, yes, but then Twitter really took it upon itself to make sure that it was extra ruined. And I just gotta say, shout out to whoever found out where she adopted that dog. And contacted the dog, if you haven't heard the story, uh, there was a white woman in Central Park, they're calling her Central Park Karen, her name's Amy Cooper. She is a scammer and an excellent voiceover actress. Um, she, she needs to be in somebody's booth immediately.
19:41 Speaker 04 She does, she absolutely does.
19:43 Laci Mosley? Talent jumped out, it really did. Um, she was in the ramble in Central Park, if that's a familiar place for you, with her cocker spaniel off the leash. The leash laws state that she, the dog needed to be on the leash, uh, it was disturbing, bird watching areas that the bird watchers were trying to, you know, get their bird on, watch their birds, I don't know what they do, champ. Seems very peaceful.
20:08 Speaker 04 I think you got it, I think that's what they do. I think.
20:11 Laci Mosley? That what it is, they watch the birds, okay?
20:13 Speaker 04 I think so, I think so.
20:14 Laci Mosley? It just seems so simple, you know what I mean, like, I feel like they, they gotta have more complex things that they be doing, but, fine, so they're watching birds. And if you say so Tracy, they're watching birds.
20:25 Speaker 04 I do, I insist.
20:27 Laci Mosley? And so she got her dog off the leash running all crazy, and this black man, who's also last name is Cooper, uh, hilarious enough, Christian Cooper. They probably related, it's probably some ancestry dot com, like Amy Cooper.
20:39 Speaker 04 Somebody, look, somebody's ancestor owned somebody, in them two families.
20:44 Laci Mosley? So, so he asked her politely to put the dog on a leash, of course, the caucasus, he jumped out and she immediately put on her Karen wig. And decided to call the police on this man. And he started filming her, and she said, I'm, I'm gonna call the police, and I'm gonna tell them that there's an African American man attacking me. And I wish I was joking, but that's about how, how she sounded.
21:11 Speaker 04 Like she turned into Scarlett O'Hara or some shit. Oh, fiddle day day, what am I to do? There's a big scary African Amer- and the way that she said that shit, like she like, I'm gonna tell them there's an African American man out here. I was like, bitch, you know what you doing. You know what you are about to do.
21:30 Laci Mosley? African American negro.
21:36 Laci Mosley? He wouldn't get off the sidewalk as I passed. I nearly died a fright. He whistled at me, I swear to, I swear for God. He whistled at me. He placed those two big lips together.
21:50 Laci Mosley? Like sis, so she did a whole fake phone call and like honestly, Amy Cooper is a scammer and I really kinda wanna look into her past because boy, that acting was superb. She started choking out the dog. I don't know if she meant to do that on purpose. But she yoking the dog up by the collar.
22:08 Speaker 04 She was too, she was too into it, too into it. And like, the whole time, she's dragging this poor little dog around like a rag doll. The dog's like pawing at him like, hey, hey, hey, hey, uh, Amy, uh, hey, hey, real quick, real quick though, real quick, timeout. Bitch, I can't breathe.
22:24 Laci Mosley? Literally, the dog was like, I can't breathe.
22:26 Speaker 04 Right.
22:26 Laci Mosley? And what's crazy to me is when I really started to analyze the video, I was like, so if there was no videotape, it would just sound like the woman is like, I was watching my dog and a negro came. And then her dog's like, help negro, help negro. So the cops probably hear that and they're like, oh, this woman is in distress and her dog is like,
22:46 Speaker 04 negro, negro. Get the rifles.
22:51 Speaker 04 Even the dog is calling them out.
22:55 Laci Mosley? The dog, dog's like,
22:57 Speaker 04 Jim Crow.
22:59 Laci Mosley? Bring the hoses.
23:05 Speaker 04 And a German shepherd.
23:06 Laci Mosley? The dog is like, you just know his ancestors, like, look, my ancestor was a police dog in the sixties, like, this is what we do.
23:12 Speaker 04 Right.
23:13 Laci Mosley? Meanwhile, the dog in real life is getting choked out. And I just wanna say shout out to whoever on Twitter figured out where she adopted this dog and had the dog repoed.
23:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, man.
23:24 Laci Mosley? I've never seen that.
23:26 Speaker 04 How? How does Twitter do what it does? Like, off that grainy ass photo. Somebody said, let me hack into the mainframe real quick.
23:37 Speaker 04 It's her whole fucking life.
23:39 Laci Mosley? That photo is about the quality of what my nudes would be on my flip phone.
23:43 Speaker 04 Exactly. The burner phone.
23:46 Laci Mosley? And yet, someone has taken that and cross-referenced it. Found out where this woman adopted this damn dog. And the same day, just a few hours after the incident, they pulled up and said, run me the dog.
24:05 Speaker 04 I have never heard of that happening, but I guess, why would I? You know, who else is out here doing it to dogs?
24:13 Laci Mosley? Oh, my god. And the sad part is on Twitter, like, obviously, like, people, there are a good amount of people who are upset about Christian Cooper and how this woman obviously was gonna try to use state sanctioned violence to kill this man. But there is so many people who are just genuinely upset about the dog that I was like, maybe having a cat isn't enough. Maybe I need to get a dog and just walk around with that shit everywhere I go, like, look, I'm a human. I have a dog.
24:36 Speaker 04 I think so. And that way, at least if, like, the cops get you, somebody be like, well, at least she had a dog, so she's a good person.
24:43 Laci Mosley? Right, I'm like, holding the dog in front of my chest and my head, like, please don't shoot.
24:47 Speaker 04 Right, like, don't shoot. Don't shoot us. Don't shoot us.
24:50 Laci Mosley? Or him.
24:51 Speaker 04 Don't shoot man one.
24:52 Laci Mosley? If that's really how y'all feel about, see, see, he's blocking me, so.
24:56 Speaker 04 Right.
24:57 Laci Mosley? Black people, that may not have to be our new scam, was we just go everywhere with a dog.
25:04 Laci Mosley? That's how we stay alive.
25:05 Speaker 04 We should reclaim German Shepherds.
25:07 Laci Mosley? Right. Ooh, that seems like it would be a lot of retraining, like, every day you get home, you're like,
25:11 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm not.
25:12 Laci Mosley? Poochie, let go of my wrist.
25:16 Speaker 04 Uchi?
25:17 Laci Mosley? Poochie, I was gonna call it poochie.
25:20 Speaker 04 Oh, poochie, I thought you said uchi as in uchiwali.
25:23 Laci Mosley? Ooh, that's a good name for a dog, too. I like uchiwali.
25:28 Laci Mosley? Me and my
25:29 Speaker 04 A dog named Uchiwali.
25:31 Laci Mosley? Me and my dog Uchiwali staying safe in these streets, okay? Cha dang dang.
25:36 Speaker 04 Safe and alive.
25:39 Laci Mosley? But shout out, shout out to Twitter for taking that woman's dog and her job. Um, you know, maybe think twice next time y'all wanna fake a whole, uh, scene, a crime scene. Just think twice about it.
25:51 Speaker 04 It's, especially if there's a camera in your face, like maybe just be logical a little bit.
25:56 Laci Mosley? She was cocky. She was really cocky.
25:58 Speaker 04 She was.
25:59 Laci Mosley? Cause she was running towards that man.
26:00 Speaker 04 Which is wild.
26:01 Laci Mosley? Uh, talking about, get away from me.
26:05 Laci Mosley? Running at him.
26:06 Speaker 04 Grabbing for his phone as she does it, like.
26:09 Laci Mosley? Which reminds me of, this is a deep cut for you guys. If you've ever watched Flavor of Love, it was the first episode of season two. Safari, who's one of my personal heroes, she got into a fight with a, with a woman over a bed. And she's clearly beating this woman up. But she has pulled this tiny little woman on top of her and is punching her in the head, talking about, get off me, get off me.
26:35 Speaker 04 And then she offered us some lip chat later.
26:39 Laci Mosley? That's essentially what Amy Cooper tried to do. She was like, get off me, get off me.
26:46 Laci Mosley? No one is on you. If this wasn't horrible.
26:49 Speaker 04 Also, I love that reference, by the way. I love Play with Love so fucking much. You don't understand. Love it.
26:55 Laci Mosley? I've rewatched it all during quarantine. That was like week one of quarantine. I was like, I guess I'm rewatching Flavor of Love. And then Rock of Love bust and then Time's Call.
27:06 Laci Mosley? It was an escape.
27:07 Speaker 04 Ray J's, what was it called?
27:08 Laci Mosley? Ooh.
27:09 Speaker 04 For the Love of Ray J?
27:10 Laci Mosley? I have not rewatched For the Love of Ray J. I gotta go watch that, cause that girl with the tiger tattoo.
27:15 Speaker 04 She smashed the homies. Danger. She smashed the homies.
27:19 Laci Mosley? Oh, slut shaming, slut shaming in its peak, you know, uh.
27:23 Speaker 04 Oh, man. The good old days, am I right?
27:28 Laci Mosley? It's like that song I know Beyonce always tries to forget. Remember Nasty put some clothes on?
27:33 Speaker 04 Mm-hmm. I sure do. Not gonna say anymore cuz I don't want the B have coming after me.
27:38 Laci Mosley? A patriarchy bop, okay?
27:41 Speaker 04 Hey, they happen. They happen. Sometimes you gotta make the best out of the toxicity that you were taught. That's how she do it.
27:47 Laci Mosley? Alright guys, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be right back.
27:52 Laci Mosley? Guys, we are back.
27:53 Speaker 04 I look like...
27:54 Laci Mosley? Tracy's reporting live from the sauna. She's got a whole booth set up here.
27:58 Speaker 04 Yes.
27:58 Laci Mosley? I love it.
27:59 Speaker 04 Listen, it's so hot, y'all.
28:02 Laci Mosley? We're back with historic hoodwinks. And this is where I will gale Tracy with a story of a historic caper or hoodwink. And we'll get her opinions all throughout. So feel free to interrupt at any time, Tracy. I wanna hear all of your thoughts. This...
28:16 Speaker 04 I'm so excited.
28:17 Laci Mosley? This is another scam. We keep having this happen. A lot of the scams that we cover either have been turned into movies or are in the process of becoming a film. Uh, I guess cuz they're just so fun. So this one is actually based off of, um, I believe Bad Education. And, um, the leader of the scam, his name is Frank Tassone. And he was a former superintendent in New York's Rosalind School District. So this charismatic administrator, charismatic scammer, allegedly insisted on personally meeting each and every new student. Now mind you, he's the superintendent. So that's not like the principal where you gotta meet everybody at your school. He said, "Run me all the PSs, one through eighteen."
29:03 Laci Mosley? And I will meet every little New York baby.
29:06 Speaker 04 We homeschooling, damn it. I don't trust him.
29:09 Laci Mosley? Right. Why you trying to shake up all my kids?
29:11 Speaker 04 Right!
29:12 Laci Mosley? What you need to know? But I guess he's trying to get in touch with his constituency, child. I guess. He made a point of regularly lunching with high school pupils. He even led a book club for the district's parents. Now what this touches to me on, cuz obviously he gonna do some fraud. I feel like if you trying to be with the people this much, it's so you could keep tabs on what the people saying.
29:36 Speaker 04 Yup. Yup. Also, to rob somebody, you gotta be near them pockets. Gotta know where your target is and what they doing.
29:42 Laci Mosley? Yeah, you gotta eat lunch with him and be like, who, let's see who eating the square pizza with chocolate milk. Or see who getting Chick-fil-A brought to them by their mama at lunch. Who got the coins?
29:53 Speaker 04 Who got the potato triangles in here? Me?
29:56 Laci Mosley? Listen, who, who got the, who got the, uh, the, the stamped cucumbers? If you got some cucumbers that look like clover leaves, I just saw this on TikTok. It's moms out here using food stamps, like, like little, uh, cookie cutters. Food stamps, child. Cookie cutters. You see, I'm not that type of, uh, I have no kids. I'm a single mom with no kids. But I would not be that kind of mom.
30:22 Laci Mosley? So if I see you out here and your sandwich got the crust cut off in the shape of a heart and shit, I know your mama don't have to work.
30:28 Speaker 04 Right. You rich. I'm gonna see you in the alley after school.
30:33 Laci Mosley? We definitely coming for your pockets.
30:36 Laci Mosley? So, he later admitted to embezzling millions of dollars from the school district with the help of his colleague Pam Gluckin. Shout out to Pam.
30:46 Speaker 04 Pam. Pam.
30:49 Laci Mosley? Pam.
30:49 Speaker 04 I love Pam, just because her name is Pam.
30:51 Laci Mosley? Right. I wonder if it's, it's gotta be Pamela, right? They just calling her Pam Gluckin. I like it. The case involved into multiple arrests and millions of dollars that were later become known as the largest school embezzlement scandal in US history. Tasson had been in the school district for ten or twelve years, and in that time, he had grown the school district to the point of national prominence. So, the town itself was doing well because of the regard of the school district directly tethered to things like property value. So he was also taking the coin, we all know, a good school district also usually has very high taxes. Because it's like a place that people wanna move.
31:33 Laci Mosley? I've never had to purchase a home, obviously, because I live in Los Angeles. Um, and I'm just really not ready to spring for that one bath- bathroom, that half bathroom, one bedroom, million dollar home.
31:47 Laci Mosley? I'm not ready for that.
31:49 Speaker 04 Nope, nope.
31:51 Laci Mosley? But, um, but in places where housing is a bit more affordable, like Texas where I'm from, like, the school district that I was in was really good and the taxes were very high in the neighborhood, which is also a way of kind of like gerrymandering and keeping people of color out. Trash.
32:05 Speaker 04 Absolutely.
32:06 Laci Mosley? So he got the school district popping, popping. And the administrators were asking for more and more money because they were doing an incredible job. So the taxpayers were happy to oblige, said Mac McCowsky, a former student who later went on to write the drama Bad Education. So he wrote the movie about his school.
32:27 Speaker 04 Okay, okay.
32:28 Laci Mosley? So all their kids were getting into amazing schools and doing great on their SATs and property values were soaring. And in two thousand four, the Wall Street Journal named Rosalind High the sixth best public high school in the nation. This is very-
32:43 Speaker 04 Wow.
32:43 Laci Mosley? Yeah, right? Number six? And you're a public-
32:46 Speaker 04 That's high. In the nation. The nation is big. There's a lot of schools in the nation.
32:51 Laci Mosley? I mean, like, you don't have to go to Mississippi and look into their schools, but for the most part, it's a lot of schools.
32:59 Laci Mosley? Shout out to Mississippi. Y'all can go beat my ass, but Google it. Y'all education is trash.
33:07 Speaker 04 They might come beat your ass, though.
33:08 Laci Mosley? I know they might. But listen, my daddy, my daddy from Jackson, Mississippi, okay? He got into Princeton, so I'm not saying the people are stupid. I'm just saying your educational system is bad.
33:21 Speaker 04 And that's why people fault, so.
33:23 Laci Mosley? It is.
33:25 Laci Mosley? You don't have to look too far.
33:27 Speaker 04 Yep, yep, very true.
33:30 Laci Mosley? So, um, every episode, I just want to see how far I can go.
33:37 Laci Mosley? How far y'all gonna let me go before you pull the plug? Someone just comes over here and pulls the plug out of my computer. It's like, no more.
33:42 Speaker 04 That's enough. That's enough, ma'am.
33:44 Laci Mosley? You will not, you cannot talk on the internet anymore. We said no.
33:47 Speaker 04 This is why y'all can't have nothing.
33:49 Laci Mosley? Exactly. This is why we can't have nice things.
33:54 Laci Mosley? This very affable charismatic person who placed real emphasis on the quality of education and helping students was at the same time taking money from the coffer and was part of an eleven point two million dollar larceny scheme. So I was, they're talking about Tassone, like he seems like the mother Teresa of schools and he's also the motherfucker of the school as well, cuz he's robbing the shit out of them.
34:19 Speaker 04 Right.
34:20 Laci Mosley? So, this is how they spent some of the money. There were details about Tassone, who Hugh Jackman plays in this movie Bad Education, that didn't add up. So, he drove a Mercedes, he wore sharp suits and served lobster tails at a luncheon.
34:37 Speaker 04 Okay, wait.
34:40 Speaker 04 You supposed to lay low, my dude. You did the exact opposite. Lobster?
34:45 Laci Mosley? Like, we would've let you be flashy, but lobster? Right. The fish from the tank that costs a lot of money, from the fish from the tank? Lobster?
34:56 Speaker 04 The little, the big ass bug that, uh, celebrities always trying to free from grocery stores and shit, that one? Really? And like, did he serve them like, at school in the cafeteria? You remember that? When somebody tried to free some lobsters?
35:10 Laci Mosley? That's crazy. No, I don't remember that. That is wild. I did not know about that.
35:14 Speaker 04 I cannot remember which white boy it was.
35:17 Laci Mosley? Which white boy?
35:17 Speaker 04 I think it, one of them, one of them. I think it happened in Kentucky and he was just like, I just wanted to free the lobsters. Like, he like smashed a big ass tank of lobsters.
35:28 Laci Mosley? You know?
35:29 Speaker 04 You know?
35:30 Laci Mosley? Just to have the free time to be white.
35:36 Laci Mosley? I'm Googling this, cuz now I wanna know.
35:38 Speaker 04 Yes, I hope, I hope I am correct.
35:40 Laci Mosley? No, I can't find anything on it. Okay, we're, we're gonna circle back to this, but lobsters, guys. And the issue here is, okay, one, you're driving a Mercedes. That's already a lot, cuz you know you work in education, which I wish that more people in education could drive a Mercedes, cuz they don't get paid a fuck enough. And you wearing sharp suits, okay, you got the number six high school in the nation. We'll let you have a, a little Peri Ellis or a little, you know what I mean?
36:06 Speaker 04 You gotta look good, you know? Impress the people.
36:09 Laci Mosley? Now, when you start flaunting your wealth where you're not eating lobster at a luncheon by yourself alone, you are buying market price lobster for everybody?
36:19 Speaker 04 Multiple lobsters. At the same time, when no payment plan, when no lobster layaway, you just gonna walk in with all the lobsters.
36:26 Laci Mosley? No lobster layaway. He came in like Oprah. He said, "You get a lobster, you get a lobster, you get a lobster." That sound like some shit Frank Tassone would do. That's some very Frank Tassone ass shit.
36:39 Speaker 04 Okay, I have a que- I have a que- I have a question about this luncheon. Uh, is it happening like, cause in my head, it's happening in like an elementary school lunchroom? And they're eating like these big, beautiful lobsters on these like little square, plastic trays.
36:54 Laci Mosley? Right, with the, with the, the plastic knife and the fork, they still gotta drink chocolate milk with it? They're just like, "You couldn't get us no juice for lobster?" Like nah, y'all still gotta drink that chocolate milk, it gonna go bad tomorrow.
37:05 Speaker 04 Right, also, I spent all this money on the lobsters.
37:10 Laci Mosley? You're lucky y'all got butter. Now, drink that chocolate milk and eat that lobster, okay?
37:15 Speaker 04 And shut the fuck up.
37:17 Laci Mosley? Michelle Obama could never.
37:23 Laci Mosley? So, obviously, he out here looking like a little too rich. And in spite of increasing budget requests, which seem to always be met, the school's roof continued to leak. Alright, now Frank-
37:36 Speaker 04 This sound like my church. You know, you keep giving to the building fund. Why the church still fall apart though? What is y'all building?
37:44 Laci Mosley? So, when are we ever gonna, right, when is we actually gonna ever build something with the building fund? Cause it's been a few years, pastor. It's been a few years now, pastor, and-
37:58 Laci Mosley? Yo, that reminds me- That reminds me of my old church home, and I had a pastor, uh, he might be dead now. Reverend Jackson, I feel like he probably, he probably did. But he was very charismatic, and he was a scammer. And he was just like, "Oh my god." One of the best sermons, like he, when he started really preaching, "Get your sweat tan." And he could sing a little bit, and he would be sweating.
38:25 Laci Mosley? He will be sweating.
38:31 Laci Mosley? He was so good. And I've never, yup, you be the one, we got a fan, we had to get the fan out.
38:38 Speaker 04 Absolutely, absolutely. When you see me stand up and start stretching, get ready.
38:42 Laci Mosley? And our building fund- Right, right. We're about to start stomping, stomping and running. And for the white listeners out there, that's what black Baptists do. Also, who else does this? Who speaks in tongues?
38:56 Speaker 04 Pentecostal?
38:57 Laci Mosley? Pentecostal.
38:58 Speaker 04 Pentecostal, I think.
38:58 Laci Mosley? Um, but a lot of Baptists, missionary Baptists.
39:02 Speaker 04 Uh, Apo- Apo- Apopolystopolis, how you say it? Apostolic?
39:08 Laci Mosley? Apostolic? We close.
39:10 Speaker 04 Apocalypse? Close enough.
39:12 Laci Mosley? Close enough.
39:12 Speaker 04 Apocalypses.
39:13 Laci Mosley? Yes, but we like to, we like to turn up in church and run around and have a good time. But yeah, I'll never forget when he started stealing from the church because he started changing up the sermons. He would be like, oh, I know y'all, I know y'all women is going, uh, going to Dallas, which was the big city in Texas for us. Uh, this was in Terrell, Texas. Shout out to Terrell. Um, he's like, I know y'all going to the big city and y'all done saved up your money, but why are you spending your money on clothes when you need to be spending your money on God?
39:42 Speaker 04 And by God, I mean me.
39:45 Laci Mosley? In the building.
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40:52 Laci Mosley? So Frank Tassone has an everlasting building fund, AKA the school. Now Frank, I know you needed, I know you went to Gucci and you probably treated yourself. I know you went and got these lobsters and thought perhaps that people wouldn't notice, but fixing the roof? Should have definitely been higher up on the priority list, as in everybody's gonna see the roof is broke every day.
41:18 Speaker 04 And they're gonna notice when it's not fixed, you know?
41:21 Laci Mosley? Yeah, like how long did you think they weren't gonna notice that the roof was not?
41:24 Speaker 04 It should have at least been top five, you know? Go to Gucci, buy out the bar, get some lobsters, fix the roof.
41:31 Laci Mosley? Fix the roof.
41:31 Speaker 04 And then go to, I don't know, Maui or wherever you go, wherever rich people go.
41:35 Laci Mosley? Right. I just feel like you gotta, you gotta pull, before you pull up to Mercedes, I think you really do need to pull up to Home Depot.
41:42 Speaker 04 Yeah.
41:42 Laci Mosley? Like I feel like that's gotta be the first stop.
41:44 Speaker 04 I mean.
41:45 Laci Mosley? Then you go to Mercedes.
41:46 Speaker 04 Yeah, it'll make you look better and maybe you won't get the fuck caught, maybe.
41:49 Laci Mosley? Right. So obviously things aren't adding up. So while playing the role of devoted superintendent, remember, because he loved to go to lunches with everybody and they could. Uh, he was also siphoning off 2.2 million dollars on vacations to the Caribbean. You said it Tracy, rent on an Upper East Side apartment, $33,000 worth of local dry cleaning?
42:13 Speaker 04 I mean, you gotta get the, get the Gucci, right? You gotta get all them Steve Harvey suits together.
42:17 Laci Mosley? Listen, you ain't, you ain't wrong about that. And I, you need a good dry cleaner, because for a long time I didn't have a good dry cleaner. And I used to do it in New York too, I just dropped my clothes off, bruh. I didn't notice until I moved that all my designer t-shirts were gone. YSL shirts, life of Pablo before Kanye was problematic, like they was just stealing my designer clothes.
42:39 Speaker 04 You know what?
42:40 Laci Mosley? And I would drop off pounds of laundry.
42:42 Speaker 04 That's wild.
42:43 Laci Mosley? So I had no idea.
42:44 Speaker 04 Oh no, this is so funny to me because my, um, I don't mean to put my family on the spotlight, but my brother.
42:52 Speaker 04 His favorite thing was to buy clothes from the dry cleaner.
42:56 Speaker 04 And I was like, wait, is this legal? And he's just like, you know, they just there. And I was like, well, they belong to someone at first. And he was like, well, maybe they don't want them.
43:04 Laci Mosley? Me and your brother need to fight.
43:06 Speaker 04 Look, after the show, I will give you his coordinates. Cause he probably bought one of his shirts.
43:11 Laci Mosley? Please give me his coordinates.
43:14 Laci Mosley? Listen, actually though, I'm, I need to hit him up and be like, so where do I do this? Cause if I gotta buy back my designer clothes, so be it.
43:21 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, I mean, he would help you out.
43:23 Laci Mosley? They gonna be cheaper than the first time I bought them.
43:27 Laci Mosley? I'm just be straight up with my dry cleaner. I'm like, look, I know y'all stole my shit. Now, how much to get it back?
43:33 Speaker 04 We gonna keep the cops out of this?
43:35 Laci Mosley? I'm a reasonable gal.
43:36 Speaker 04 Just, you know, one on one.
43:38 Laci Mosley? Right, they're like, you black, you're always gonna keep the cops out of it. I'm like, you right about that.
43:42 Speaker 04 Also, you paid for it your way.
43:44 Laci Mosley? I'm called like, I am a white woman.
43:47 Laci Mosley? I am a white woman, okay? By the time you get here, I will be white.
43:51 Speaker 04 While you're choking a dog.
43:52 Laci Mosley? African American? Right? Got the dog yoked up to the mic.
43:57 Speaker 04 Dog's like, earth, give her her shirts, earth, earth.
44:00 Laci Mosley? Right, alright. Um, so thirty-three thousand dollars worth of his local dry cleaning. I mean, money well spent, so you get your clothes back. And fifty thousand dollars in flights to London, just specifically to London.
44:14 Speaker 04 Oh, uh, wow. He got hoes in London, I'm assuming.
44:20 Laci Mosley? Across the pond, yeah, he must have hoes in different, um, area codes, for sure, for sure.
44:25 Speaker 04 He said, I'm a flew myself out.
44:27 Laci Mosley? Postal codes. He flew himself out a lot. Fifty-six thousand, six hundred forty-five dollars of the school's funds he used to pay a Manhattan weight loss doctor. Frank was also going to Vegas like two, three times a year.
44:42 Speaker 04 How, how much on the weight loss doctor?
44:45 Laci Mosley? Fifty-six thousand, six hundred forty-five dollars.
44:48 Speaker 04 What the fuck did he order? Like, what? I don't know, just.
44:52 Laci Mosley? Like, Weight Watchers does not cost that much.
44:55 Speaker 04 It don't, what is?
44:56 Laci Mosley? Oprah's out here giving y'all meal plans for like thirty dollars.
44:59 Speaker 04 Listen, what is fifty-six thou? I'm just gonna stay, uh, thick and delightful, if that's what it take.
45:06 Laci Mosley? Also, do I need to get, right? You know, so much of our weight loss culture is rooted in fat phobia, but I'm like, is this a, a good scam to get a part of? Cause how, was he not fat after fifty, fifty-six thousand dollars later? Did he look different?
45:21 Speaker 04 Right, we need a before and after, we do.
45:25 Laci Mosley? I'm confused, cause also, how do you keep making money? You know?
45:29 Speaker 04 Yeah.
45:30 Laci Mosley? I have so many questions.
45:31 Speaker 04 That's a very big question.
45:35 Laci Mosley? After fifty-six thousand dollars, I better look like exactly what I wanna look like. I don't know what that is, but I better look exactly. Right, I better look, I better be able to hold up a picture of Beyonce and then be like, yes, exactly the same person.
45:49 Speaker 04 I think that's totally fair.
45:52 Laci Mosley? I think that's reasonable. So, he paid a weight loss doctor all this money. Frank was also going to Vegas like two or three times a year on the school district's dime. Okay, turn up. One parent said, suddenly, it's not Frank in a Ford Taurus with his pants way up to here. It's Frank with his hair slicked back and a facelift. Teachers couldn't fail to notice the long, light scars behind his ears. He went and got his whole face done.
46:22 Laci Mosley? Okay, Frank Kardashian.
46:24 Speaker 04 I mean, like.
46:28 Speaker 04 Did he, I wanna know, I want to know, did he have, like, a plan to explain, like, this glow up in his life? Like, did he tell people, oh, I won a very secretive lottery that nobody knows about? Oh, I had a grandparent die who was very rich. Like, what, what do you tell people? That's how you know he was like.
46:48 Laci Mosley? I truly don't know, cause he started out as like Ford Tercel.
46:53 Speaker 04 Listen.
46:54 Laci Mosley? Or Taurus, man of the people. Uh, my friend used to have a Ford Taurus and she called it clitaurus. I don't know, I just thought of that.
47:02 Speaker 04 Oh, my gosh.
47:03 Laci Mosley? So, he was just driving around his clitaurus with his pants up to here. And, and being a man of the people. And now he's a slicked-back, bad bitch. With a fresh Jerry Jones face.
47:17 Speaker 04 Got his ass done and everything. Snatched? Where you, how you do that?
47:23 Laci Mosley? His face is sitting on twenty-two inch.
47:27 Speaker 04 And he just walk in like, what's up, y'all? Different? No, I just, like, I got my haircut. I lost a few pounds, maybe that's what you, maybe that's what you seen. Maybe that's what.
47:36 Laci Mosley? I, I want.
47:37 Speaker 04 No, sir.
47:38 Laci Mosley? Fifty-six thousand dollars worth of weight.
47:42 Laci Mosley? No, no, no, I just lost fifty six thousand dollars worth of pounds.
47:47 Speaker 04 Worth of pounds.
47:49 Laci Mosley? Whoever knows how much pounds that is.
47:52 Speaker 04 He knows.
47:53 Laci Mosley? Pam Gluckett, the accomplice, because Tassone, you know, he wasn't acting alone. So now we're coming back to Pam. So Roslyn School's former business administrator Pam Gluckett admitted to stealing four point three million dollars herself. So she went and got her. Y'all, if y'all had just stole, honestly, I think they probably stole more. If they're saying four point three, I'm like, Pam, you probably got seven. Uh, and I hope you offshored some of it, sis. I really hope you did.
48:20 Speaker 04 Just like the white stuff do.
48:23 Laci Mosley? Right? She and Tassone also reportedly withdrew over a million dollars from ATMs. Wow.
48:30 Speaker 04 I have a question, so.
48:33 Laci Mosley? This includes service fees?
48:35 Speaker 04 Right. Most ATMs will let you take out what, two hundred dollars? So y'all just went to like every ATM in the world? Like, okay, that in New York, opposite Jersey.
48:46 Laci Mosley? Kept going. Right. You can't even do that. Banks won't even let you do that. Bank of America stingy bitch ass calling me every five minutes. I tried to buy a Slim Jim. They'd be like, bitch, you ain't never had no Slim Jim before.
48:57 Speaker 04 Who is this?
48:58 Laci Mosley? Are you being robbed?
49:01 Laci Mosley? Don't worry, we turning off all your accounts.
49:03 Speaker 04 Just to be safe. I'll sell too much out anyway. You don't need that.
49:08 Laci Mosley? Right. That's not even good for you. We trying to keep you alive so we can keep your money in the bank. Okay? So they took out a million dollars from ATMs. The school district was paying for renovations to her home in the Hamptons. Her son had a district. Yes. How y'all got a home in the Hamptons and the school got a hole in the roof?
49:30 Laci Mosley? I really.
49:31 Speaker 04 Questions that need answers. It really does. Just messy. Just sloppy.
49:36 Laci Mosley? Cause if I'm sitting in the school every day, I'm a teacher, I'm underpaid. I see Frank Tesor- uh, Frank Tassone is no longer driving Clitoris. All of a sudden, he wearing Gucci. And he got all the pomade in his hair. He smell like the nigga from Axe body spray. And I'm still looking at a hole in the roof.
49:55 Speaker 04 Right. It's raining on my kid's head in the middle of all this.
49:58 Laci Mosley? Yeah, literally raining on their head. So she getting her house upgraded in the Hamptons, honey. She basically living the life from the affair. Which is one of my favorite white people being rich and sad TV shows guys.
50:11 Speaker 04 Say, white people be having problems, don't they?
50:15 Laci Mosley? Oh, they just be fucking and crying and it's just the flavor, you know?
50:22 Laci Mosley? They do though.
50:25 Laci Mosley? Like, I wanna have a life where my problems are so few that I can focus on a fight at the PTA. Like, that could be what's bothering me all week.
50:35 Speaker 04 What a luxury, what a luxury.
50:38 Laci Mosley? Oh, oh, sometimes I watch it and I escape, you know, I can't even be mad at it, I'm like.
50:43 Speaker 04 You pretend your name is Carol.
50:45 Laci Mosley? Brought them gluten free cookies, right?
50:48 Speaker 04 Yes, you should write her a long sternly worded email about how short her pants were in the middle, you should.
50:57 Laci Mosley? And that's enough drama for me, I'm like, yes, I am enthralled.
51:04 Laci Mosley? So Pam is out here living that life, honey, she bought jet skis, dog food, lavish home goods. In October two thousand two, I know, right, she, look, Pam is taking care of her dog, unlike Amy, okay?
51:19 Laci Mosley? So, in October two thousand two, superintendent for business Pamela Gluckin was discovered to have stolen two hundred fifty thousand dollars. A little did they know, that's like the tip of the iceberg, she done been stealing, stealing. The theft was uncovered when a Home Depot employee became suspicious when Gluckin's son, John McCormick, used Roslyn School's credit card to purchase construction material to be delivered to his home. It was later found that McCormick had purchased eighty five thousand dollars worth of supplies for his contractor business using Roslyn, the Roslyn School District credit card.
51:50 Speaker 04 And this is her son?
51:51 Laci Mosley? My question, this is her son.
51:54 Speaker 04 He's on punishment.
51:55 Laci Mosley? So I'm gonna go ahead and infer that her son's an asshole.
51:58 Speaker 04 Yeah, let's assume.
51:59 Laci Mosley? And here's why.
52:00 Speaker 04 Okay.
52:01 Laci Mosley? Because.
52:03 Laci Mosley? A Home Depot employee became suspicious when he used the school district's credit card? If I worked at Home Depot, I don't think I'm checking the origin of the credit card that I'm swiping.
52:22 Laci Mosley? He did buy eighty-five thousand dollars worth of supplies, so maybe
52:28 Laci Mosley? he was like, this is a big purchase. Who is this guy?
52:33 Laci Mosley? But whatever it is, the hater jumped out of this Home Depot, man.
52:36 Speaker 04 Yeah, I think that makes sense. Like, I would do some petty shit like that if you went my line acting a asshole while I'm at work minding my business. Like, oh, really? I'm moving too slow? Let's see who owned this credit card then, motherfucker. You all look like a Roslin, hoe.
52:54 Laci Mosley? You don't look like a Roslin.
52:59 Laci Mosley? I'd never want to piss you off, Tracy.
53:00 Speaker 04 Hey, good idea.
53:01 Laci Mosley? And have a nice day. And have a nice day. Cause it will be one of the last ones, one of the last nice days you have, bitch.
53:09 Speaker 04 Just might. Alright, so your mama did my fair hat.
53:12 Laci Mosley? Time to ruin you. Right. Cause I'm like, this is a hater. They're like, otherwise, why? Why would you turn this person in? But anyway, so this is the movie and getting caught. So making the movie even more surreal for the Long Island town is the fact that Bad Education was written by one of the school's former students, Mike Morowski, who attended Roslin Middle School as a student when Tassone was arrested. Frank Tassone was the first person I met at Roslin. This is what Mike says. He told Vanity Fair this last month. Oh, he talking to Vanity Fair? He came up.
53:50 Speaker 04 He put that education in good use.
53:53 Laci Mosley? Right, this is a good education. I don't know what you're talking about. So he said he met him at age six. And in real life, Tassone's story was investigated by a student reporter, Rebecca Rombaum. Rombaum got a tip about the real reason behind Gluckin's firing, and her story led to authorities and major news outlets catching on to this years-long con. So the other little girl was just writing for the student newspaper, and she got some TT. She got that hot Lipton. And all of a sudden, she getting everybody locked up. Can you imagine? Like, you just write for the Roslin Eagle Tide.
54:31 Speaker 04 The Roslyn Rambler. It's Stephanie Crenshaw with The Roslyn Rambler. Everybody got fired today. It's all my fault.
54:40 Laci Mosley? Right. Today, we're talking fraud. I've been speaking with these authorities at the NYPD station.
54:50 Speaker 04 Can you say?
54:51 Laci Mosley? We're coming to you live.
54:52 Speaker 04 Boys and girls.
54:56 Laci Mosley? Why are the kids reporting on this? Like, this is how cheap the school district was.
55:06 Laci Mosley? I'm tru- I'm truly obsessed. So Rebecca got the tea and then the news of the authorities are opening up the Roslyn Rambler like, maybe we should look into this. Are these kids onto a major fraud?
55:20 Speaker 04 Also, should we hire her?
55:23 Speaker 04 Should she be working for a real estate?
55:27 Laci Mosley? Because this is kind of embarrassing. We are all adults. And we were just like, oh, she took 250K. Seems normal and we closed the case. And the kids are saying no.
55:37 Speaker 04 They said, uh, uh, uh, you thought.
55:40 Laci Mosley? So Tassan and Gluckin tried to cover their tracks by roping in conspirators and sharing the cash. District employees. So they were like, all right, y'all, everybody.
55:52 Speaker 04 On the count of three, let's hold hands. Still a whole lot of money.
55:56 Laci Mosley? There's still a lot of money, y'all. And if you would like to become a part of the crime as well, we could see that happening.
56:04 Speaker 04 Please sign up for the crime on this sheet. It will be on my office door later.
56:11 Laci Mosley? If you would like to participate in the crime, please tear off one of the numbers at the bottom of this flyer.
56:18 Laci Mosley? Because, listen, justice, justice don't pay the bills. Okay? That's what the newsletter would say. Justice don't pay the bills. Okay?
56:25 Speaker 04 Oh, man.
56:28 Laci Mosley? So district employees with oversight jobs were given bonuses. Deborah Reggiano, Gluckin's niece, worked as an accounting clerk, oh, convenient, for the Roslin Schools and stole more than eight hundred fifty thousand dollars. Seventy-four unauthorized Roslin School credit cards were circulated among the district employees and their friends and family members. So everybody was getting a coin from Roslin School District. Also, like, y'all, y'all couldn't just chill a little bit?
56:54 Speaker 04 They wanted to get calm, is what it sounds like.
56:56 Laci Mosley? Y'all were robbing, robbing.
56:58 Speaker 04 Yeah.
56:58 Laci Mosley? Fix the roof. I'll take it over the roof.
57:01 Speaker 04 At least do that first and then I'll give you some credit cards. But like, I just feel like if I was the type of person who could do such a thing, which I can't because number one, I have a conscience, which I really fucking hate. Number two, I'm a bad liar, so I would not make a great scammer. But if I was and I had like millions, if I scammed five hundred thousand dollars from somebody, I will splurge and like get like a extra like, I don't know, something at the, at the.
57:30 Laci Mosley? Scoop a guac at Chipotle?
57:32 Speaker 04 Exactly.
57:33 Laci Mosley? Like, I will have the guac today.
57:35 Speaker 04 Yes, I will. I do want cheese on my burger. Like, you gotta lay all the way low. I don't, I don't understand why people who are bad at crimes keep doing crimes. I just don't get it.
57:45 Laci Mosley? It got too good to them. You know, that's the thing about scamming. It's about the high, too.
57:49 Speaker 04 Always chasing that dragon.
57:51 Laci Mosley? So Gluckin was sentenced to three to nine years in prison for stealing four point nine million dollars. She was released in two thousand eleven. Unfortunately, she passed away in twenty seventeen. But Mikowski opted to not reach out to his former superintendent when writing his screenplay. Instead, speaking to teachers, PDA members, and other taxpayers who had interacted with Tassone. He said, "I knew the film was called Bad Education, but it's a bit of a misnomer in that regard. I had an incredible education there, and I think it's largely in part strangely due to this man Frank Tassone." Yeah, he gave you a great education. You're talking Vanity Fair, bruh. Sounds like your life is going well.
58:31 Laci Mosley? And he said he recruited most, Frank Tassone recruited most of the teachers, and they were one of the top-ranked schools in the country, which is true. So now, the superintendentarian.
58:42 Speaker 04 That's an official title. I believe you.
58:46 Laci Mosley? Is forbidden from holding any job that requires handling money.
58:51 Speaker 04 Damn, he done fucked it up.
58:53 Laci Mosley? He currently lives a low profile life in New York. But he still receives his pensions, which according to state law, they're entitled to earn for the rest of their lives, even despite their felony convictions. So Frank Tassone makes a hundred and seventy-three thousand dollars annually.
59:12 Speaker 04 Wow, scam of the century, wow.
59:18 Laci Mosley? Now, listen, am I mad that he's getting his pension? Absolutely not. It seems like he did make the school district wonderful. He, he made a great school district. He also just robbed them blind.
59:30 Speaker 04 I'm confused as to how he was able to do both, because doesn't it take money to improve and have one of like the best schools in the nation? Like, he was just like that good?
59:40 Laci Mosley? Spending some of it on the teachers, but just like, I think he was in there like, one for you, four for me. Two for you, nine for me.
59:51 Speaker 04 Wow, and now he's just chilling. A hundred plus a year. Is he single? He married? Is he happy?
59:58 Laci Mosley? Right.
59:58 Speaker 04 I'm not asking for me, I'm asking for, uh.
1:00:01 Laci Mosley? Is you happy? Okay, T I. Is you happy?
1:00:08 Laci Mosley? So in two thousand five, he wrote a letter to the New York Times, refuting aspects of their coverage. He said, "My lush life that you write about included fourteen hour days for many years while I moved in the district forward and met many goals of the Board of Education. I hope the hardworking mothers and fathers of Roslyn also remember how much the schools have improved, besides the roof, as a result of my leadership. Their real estate values have increased like nowhere else in the country, primarily because of the schools. The student population increased by thirty-three percent during my twelve years in the district." So he said, "Look, was I robbing y'all? Absolutely. Was I also doing my job while I robbed you? For sure."
1:00:47 Speaker 04 And doesn't educator not deserve more money anyway? Hell, yeah. Ergo.
1:00:52 Laci Mosley? Exactly.
1:00:53 Speaker 04 Leave me alone.
1:00:56 Laci Mosley? Everyone's happy.
1:00:58 Speaker 04 Right.
1:00:58 Laci Mosley? Who was hurt here?
1:01:00 Speaker 04 Except for yo hate mass.
1:01:01 Laci Mosley? Right, everybody got what they wanted. What'd you want us to do with these bu- what school district needs millions and millions of dollars? None.
1:01:09 Speaker 04 I wonder if he has like a vendetta against the, the girl on the student newspaper? Like I would've gotten away with it if it wasn't for you pesky kids. And your little newspaper.
1:01:18 Laci Mosley? And it literally is for the meddling kids in that little newspaper.
1:01:24 Laci Mosley? Shout out to these children.
1:01:25 Speaker 04 Yes, journalism.
1:01:27 Laci Mosley? This is my favorite, but also least favorite part of the show because after this I have to let Tracy go.
1:01:32 Speaker 04 Oh, I miss you already.
1:01:34 Laci Mosley? Scammer of the week. I know, this has been so fun. I love when you connect with someone on the internet and then you meet them and you're like, oh, I, I I'm blessed with you on that division.
1:01:44 Speaker 04 Oh, okay, so I'll be on the next episode then, great.
1:01:46 Laci Mosley? Yes.
1:01:50 Laci Mosley? Uh, Tracy has taken over the podcast. Yeah, I, I had this, I had a letter. I mean, have you, have you heard Strong Black Lead? Had you seen it? I had, I didn't have a choice.
1:02:01 Laci Mosley? It's fine. I ain't even wanna do it no more.
1:02:05 Laci Mosley? I ain't even wanna do my show.
1:02:07 Speaker 04 Silly.
1:02:09 Laci Mosley? So, Scammer of the Week, guys, and this is in the zeitgeist as well. Uh, it's, it's a queen, a problematic queen who I adore so much. Tyra Banks.
1:02:21 Speaker 04 Ooh.
1:02:23 Laci Mosley? And can I just say, before, before I tell y'all what Tyra was doing. Tyra Banks honored herself during Black History Month on her show once. And it was such an inspirational moment for me. Uh, she talked about how she was the first black woman to have the Sports Illustrated cover and then put the cover, blew it up, and like showed it to the audience and then commenced into speaking about herself. So highly. For Black History Month.
1:02:56 Speaker 04 You know, the barriers that I was able to break and the doors that I could open for everyone else in the miley world.
1:03:01 Laci Mosley? You're joking, but she was saying that.
1:03:03 Speaker 04 I believe it. It's humbling, really.
1:03:06 Laci Mosley? Is it?
1:03:08 Laci Mosley? Is it? Don't seem humble.
1:03:10 Speaker 04 I know. Oh, she is a mess.
1:03:14 Laci Mosley? She's a mess. Recently, Tyra Banks came under fire because people were, you know, were all bored in quarantine. We're digging up old videos of Tyra Banks doing very problematic things on America's Next Top Model, like making models wear blackface, bullying them into cutting their hair and getting painful weaves.
1:03:33 Speaker 04 There was always that one white girl who had never gotten a weave before. They gave her a sew in and she's just like into it.
1:03:38 Laci Mosley? And a bad one. They would give her a sew in when they were ripping the hair from her head and be like, this is how it goes. I'm like, is it?
1:03:48 Laci Mosley? No, it'd be like rip her scalp out.
1:03:50 Speaker 04 It's not normal. It's not normal. Poor little thing. My scalp hurts like so bad and like it is like when I go to sleep, but like I can't because like, how do black girls do this?
1:04:00 Laci Mosley? Right. And they would be beet red, just crying and shit. But listen, was it top tier reality television? Absolutely. Was it problematic as fuck? You bet your ass.
1:04:12 Speaker 04 Hell, yeah.
1:04:13 Laci Mosley? I gotta read this tweet because this isn't even, I'm gonna tell you what Tyra's scammer of the week for, but I have to read this tweet that she had. If you haven't seen it, she said, been seeing the posts about the insensitivity from some of the past America's Next Top Model moments, and I agree with you. Looking back, those were some really off choices. Appreciate your honest feedback and I'm sending you so much love and virtual hugs.
1:04:36 Speaker 04 And definitely not apologizing.
1:04:40 Laci Mosley? Someone on Twitter said Tyra Banks is my favorite white woman and I died.
1:04:49 Laci Mosley? My white Nubian queen.
1:04:51 Speaker 04 I mean, yes.
1:04:52 Laci Mosley? My white Nubian queen.
1:04:56 Laci Mosley? So let me tell you what my white Nubian queen did. Someone, someone had, uh, was a part of her multi-level marketing scheme. Yes, Tyra Banks had a multi-level marketing scheme. Uh, this person says, I made a whopping twenty-seven seventy-five selling Tyra Banks beauty products. When I was ten, a friend invited me to her mom's Mary Kay party. I couldn't resist the opportunity to try it myself, so I signed up to be a beauty tainer. A member of Tyra's sales force, a beauty tainer.
1:05:27 Speaker 04 That sound like some Tyra ass shit. I believe everything this woman's about to say. I believe all of it.
1:05:34 Laci Mosley? Tyra, you, we gave you smyes, okay? We gave you smyes. It's a part of the zeitgeist. We all love it.
1:05:40 Speaker 04 Also, Booch. Do you remember Booch? The booty tooch? Yeah, we love her.
1:05:45 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah, the booty tooch. Yeah, I, I still use those poses to this very day. Anytime I'm posing with my arm, I separate it from my body so that it doesn't look wider than it is. Like, I still use my Tyra tricks.
1:05:57 Speaker 04 Tyra got talent. She's just also really ridiculous.
1:06:01 Laci Mosley? Really ridiculous. So, so this, this, this young child becomes a beauty tainer at ten years old. She says, my friend's mom, Leigh Anne, which of course Leigh Anne is selling Tyra Banks beauty. Where's the lie? Explained, to be an active beauty tainer, I needed to sell a hundred fifty dollars of products in the first month. Or buy a hundred fifty dollars of products myself that I can then show potential buyers. The brand doesn't give free samples to start with at all. Wow. I also had to pay a fifty-nine dollar fee to enroll. And after I paid my fees and ordered the products, Leigh Anne suggested the six-minute tie-over kit.
1:06:42 Laci Mosley? The smyes eyeshadow palette, the stick with me makeup selling spritz. These are some long titles for, this is how you know the product don't work. Why the product the sentence?
1:06:55 Speaker 04 It's water.
1:06:56 Laci Mosley? The, the oops eyeliner and the menagerie brow. All amazing, she said. So she said she'd spent two hundred thirty-one, why you got two hundred thirty-one dollars and you ten years old?
1:07:11 Speaker 04 First of all, who you been scamming?
1:07:16 Laci Mosley? Right, so but spending money was only temporary. If I sold a hundred fifty dollars in products, I'd make twenty five cent per twenty five percent commission. That's really low. I feel like if I bought the products and then I sold the products, don't I keep all the profit?
1:07:35 Speaker 04 I mean, that's what I would think. I don't know how to do math in business though, so who knows? Who knows?
1:07:42 Laci Mosley? I'm not a beauty tainer. I'm I'm I'm nobody's beauty tainer, okay? But but I'm pretty sure this man will add up.
1:07:53 Speaker 04 No, no.
1:07:55 Laci Mosley? So.
1:07:56 Speaker 04 Wow.
1:07:57 Laci Mosley? He she would make a twenty five percent commission, which is only thirty seven fifty if she sold a hundred fifty dollars with the products. But if I sold five hundred dollars, I'd get an additional five percent. And if I hit a thousand, I'd get an additional ten percent. So at a thousand dollars, you can make thirty five percent of your own profits. That's crazy. So they said that I'd make even more money if I enrolled another beauty tainer. And I'd get three percent of that person's sales as well. This is an MLM, Tyra.
1:08:30 Speaker 04 Wow, I did not know this happened. Was is this like a thing that everybody is aware of?
1:08:35 Laci Mosley? It's in the zeitgeist, but a lot of people don't know, because I mean, look, Tyra Banks was cranking out so much problematic shit at one time. It was like, how do you keep up? It's like when Trump gets on Twitter, like he says so much crazy shit that nothing seems crazy anymore.
1:08:49 Speaker 04 Right, right.
1:08:50 Laci Mosley? I'm like, I'm like, yeah. He talking about somebody is a murderer on Twitter? Sounds about right. Oh, he said he gonna start taking insulin? Cool.
1:09:00 Laci Mosley? I mean, the nigga said he was gonna nuke a hurricane. I at this point, I I have no shock. We're talking about the man who stared directly.
1:09:10 Speaker 04 Into the fucking eclipse.
1:09:11 Laci Mosley? Insect. Yes, he stared into the eclipse and that's when I said, you know what, it's over for us.
1:09:16 Speaker 04 Yeah, yeah, we're doomed.
1:09:18 Laci Mosley? This man wants to show you that his eyes are stronger than the sun.
1:09:23 Speaker 04 That's how you know.
1:09:24 Laci Mosley? I'm your fearless leader.
1:09:25 Speaker 04 His is so small, it's so small. He does all this shit to just prove, like, look how manly I am. I'm not gonna wear a mask during a pandemic because my balls are so big. Shut up. They are not.
1:09:34 Laci Mosley? Yeah.
1:09:35 Speaker 04 Sit.
1:09:36 Laci Mosley? You might have a small dick if you trying to fight the sun.
1:09:41 Speaker 04 If you try to.
1:09:41 Laci Mosley? If you gotta show everybody you're a bigger man than the sun.
1:09:47 Speaker 04 You know, I don't like the way it shines all the time. I have to go to sleep sometimes, but the sun does it. I don't like it.
1:09:52 Laci Mosley? Right.
1:09:52 Speaker 04 I'm gonna bomb the sun.
1:09:53 Laci Mosley? For all of us, it's a metaphor. When we say, don't try to steal your shine, it's a metaphor. For Donald Trump, no, he's really beefing with the sun. He doesn't like that it's brighter than him. He doesn't like that it gets more attention.
1:10:07 Speaker 04 Or that it's orangier. He wants to be the orange one.
1:10:09 Laci Mosley? Right, it is orangier than him. It's not right. I, I agree with him. I also am beefing with the sun.
1:10:18 Speaker 04 Oh shit.
1:10:19 Laci Mosley? So, Tyra's beauty lines, we're getting to the end of this, but I just, this is so ridiculous. Um, so obviously it's an MLM. You sell, you recruit, um, and then you get, okay, and then there's a cer- certain point where you can reach diamond beauty tainer, which is the highest level, which comes with so many perks that feels like Tyra's just blowing her America's Next Top Model fortune. I felt rich. So I guess this person has really worked in this and got to diamond beauty tainer.
1:10:49 Speaker 04 A diamond. Go ahead, girl.
1:10:51 Laci Mosley? Right? Tyra's beauty oops liners are pretty cool with black liquid eyeliner on one side and an eraser on the other to get rid of the bleed and the crooked handiwork. Oh, that actually is a good, like, it's called oops, so when you mess up your eyeliner, you can just erase it. Right?
1:11:09 Speaker 04 Also, like, I'm feeling something, like, how you know I'm gonna mess up? Like, maybe I don't need an eraser. I do, I do though.
1:11:16 Laci Mosley? No, they do. We do.
1:11:19 Laci Mosley? It's like, look, we know you don't know how to do eyeliner, girl. Now, go get this oops. And this was back in the time of the very aggressive swoop, where you know, you used to have like the snooky, like, the angle going up towards the eyebrow.
1:11:30 Speaker 04 The, the Amy Winehouse joint.
1:11:32 Laci Mosley? Yes, the Amy Winehouse. We were all like, I told ya, I was trouble.
1:11:37 Speaker 04 I was.
1:11:41 Laci Mosley? Had my eyeliner going into my temple. Had my eyeliner going right into my forehead, okay?
1:11:47 Speaker 04 Oh, wow.
1:11:48 Laci Mosley? I was ready.
1:11:51 Laci Mosley? So, guys, this is, this is gonna be a long episode. I'm gonna skip some of these details. I'm like, you are really getting into it.
1:12:00 Laci Mosley? But, so, Leanne says, make a list of your friends, hit 'em up, all the MLM stuff, right?
1:12:07 Laci Mosley? And then, hoping to step my game up, I invited five friends over for a tie-over party. I prepped, buying makeup, sponges, tissues, disposable mascara wands, and twice as much wine and snacks than six people could consume. Okay, so you gotta be an adult at this point.
1:12:23 Speaker 04 Yeah, I'm like ten years old.
1:12:26 Speaker 04 I don't know.
1:12:27 Laci Mosley? When, when did you become an adult, girl?
1:12:31 Speaker 04 Cause I was like a ten-year-old. Diamond status? That's impressive.
1:12:36 Laci Mosley? I think that this, okay, when this person was ten, they went to a Mary Kay party. So I think that that's what interested them in beauty products. And then by the time they graduated to Tyra Banks, they were an adult. Cause I was like, wait a minute.
1:12:50 Speaker 04 Okay, so that's how they got alcohol. All right. I was like, it's a whole nother scam in and of itself.
1:12:56 Laci Mosley? Right, we really had to walk that one back. Um, but yeah, so,
1:13:01 Laci Mosley? so selling makeup to your friends is weird. Everyone at the party was afraid to take the first chip. All of us just stood there looking at Smokey Smize's palettes, like we'd never seen eyeshadow before. Their assessment of tie-overs are mixed. The eye pencil, the mascaras are hits, whatever. So, um, she's basically having this party and trying to get everybody to hop on board. All told, throughout this whole experience, and obviously this person made it to diamond status in Tyra's MLM, she said that she made twenty-seven seventy-five for her first month as a beauty tainer. I suppose I could have kept going and tried to make the rest of the initial investment, but I'm not going to. I'll just use the products I have I left myself.
1:13:41 Speaker 04 Wow, so was this twenty seven dollars or?
1:13:46 Laci Mosley? Twenty seven dollars, so I think that that's like profit.
1:13:50 Speaker 04 Wow.
1:13:51 Laci Mosley? So after spending, yeah, after spending all this money and trying to get to diamond status and all this other shit, tricking her friends, getting them drunk, imagine getting real drunk on wine. You wake up and you're in a MLM.
1:14:05 Speaker 04 Right, you're like, wait, wait, wait, wait, but hold on, hold on, hold on. Where all this mascara come from? And where's my checkbook?
1:14:11 Laci Mosley? Why is my, why are my eyes running and why am I in a MLM?
1:14:17 Speaker 04 Where is Tyra Banks? I have questions.
1:14:20 Laci Mosley? Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, Tyra, shout out to a problematic queen. You're still my favorite white woman.
1:14:28 Speaker 04 She's hanging in there though, man. She, uh, she.
1:14:32 Laci Mosley? I'm glad you quietly stopped this MLM and just like shut it down.
1:14:37 Speaker 04 Like, I, when did it happen? Like recently?
1:14:42 Laci Mosley? So she closed her direct sales business in twenty seventeen.
1:14:49 Laci Mosley? And, um, but it looks like it was operating for at least a couple of years because it was in the beta period in twenty fifteen. Uh, and she was calling it direct sales, which we all know is multi-level marketing.
1:15:05 Speaker 04 Wow, wow, she just continues.
1:15:07 Laci Mosley? Shout out to a queen.
1:15:09 Speaker 04 Shout out to our white Nubian queen, Ms. Tyra Banks herself.
1:15:14 Laci Mosley? And on that, and on that exact note, guys, thank you so much for listening. This is a long, fun episode. I hope you had fun. I got to keep Tracy's.
1:15:26 Laci Mosley? As always, snitch on your friends and family at [email protected] . You can find us online at scamgoddesspod on all platforms. You can find me at D I V A L A C I diva Lacy on all platforms. And we always ask Tracy, where do you want to be found?
1:15:42 Speaker 04 I love that question so much. Um, do not find me in real life.
1:15:47 Speaker 04 I'm in quarantine and my hair, listen, has not seen a drop of water. Um, you can find me on the social medias at Broken McPoverty, namely Instagram and Twitter. Um, also on, um, podcast situations, what do you call them? I'm really bad at this part.
1:16:04 Speaker 04 Listen to Strong Black Legends.
1:16:07 Speaker 04 Whatever, wherever you get your podcasts.
1:16:09 Laci Mosley? The Netflix podcast?
1:16:10 Speaker 04 Yeah, that one, that one. Sorry, everybody.
1:16:14 Laci Mosley? It's a pretty big deal, Tracy. It's like, you know, I don't know all the things that I do where I interview legends. Listen to that.
1:16:20 Speaker 04 In my defense, I have been sweating in this little fort stewed, so I'm probably delirious.
1:16:27 Laci Mosley? Thank you for your sacrifice.
1:16:29 Speaker 04 Absolutely. Um, follow me on the things. I have so many new podcast projects coming out, so as soon as I'm allowed to announce those, um, uh, please listen and subscribe because your grub needs to keep some money in her pocket. Thank you.
1:16:43 Laci Mosley? Yes, coins, absolutely. All right, congregation. Stay skee.
1:16:48 Speaker 04 I'm goddess.
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