The Swiftie Swindler w/ Jamie Loftus

Jamie Loftus (Sixteenth Minute of Fame) helps tell Laci's Version of the Taylor Swift New Orleans Holiday House fan meetup that went from daydream to nightmare when superfan Rebecca Fox couldn't deliver on her many promises for the event. Plus, a listener warns us of a poppin' new scam on the streets where unsolicited checks are being sent to people to trick them into signing up for predatory loans. Stay schemin' Con-gregation! Buy Laci's book “Scam Goddess: Lessons from a Life of Cons, Grifts and Schemes": https://www.hachettebookgroup.com/titles/laci-mosley/scam-goddess/9780762484652/?lens=running-press Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Jamie Loftus: @jamiechristsuperstar Research by Kate Doyle. SOURCES: https://people.com/woman-books-191-hotel-rooms-taylor-swift-new-orleans-eras-tour-exclusive-8731935 https://www.whiskeyriff.com/2024/11/01/taylor-swift-holiday-house-new-orleans/ https://www.fox8live.com/2024/11/01/metairie-woman-who-booked-191-hotel-rooms-retains-lawyer-swifties-suggest-they-were-scammed/ https://betches.com/new-orleans-holiday-house-drama-rebecca-fox/ https://kpel965.com/new-orleans-taylor-swift-holiday-house-hotel-block-complaints-allegations/

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• 1:25Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with another installment of the podcast all about robbery, fraud, cons, and those who practice them. Sometimes we love them, sometimes we hate them. We will see. Today on the show, we welcome back a comedian and podcasting iconic queen who hosts shows like The Becto Cast, which I've been on, y'all know I love, My Year in Mensa, cuz uh, my girl is a genius, Lolita Podcast, or Ghost Church. These are all critically acclaimed podcasts. If you have not listened to them, put them in your ears. She's also written the bestselling book, Raw Dog: A Naked History of Hot Dogs. And you probably remember her name because I...

• 2:10Laci Mosley?

  Scammed and begged and hunted her down to get a quote for my book and the icon gave it to me. So, yes. And her new podcast is out now. It's called 16th Minute of Fame, where every episode she examines various figures who have had the misfortune of becoming the internet's main characters. Congregation, y'all already know I'm talking about the one, the only, the amazing, undeniable queen, Jamie Loftus. Jamie, thank you so much for coming back to the show.

• 2:38Speaker 03

  Oh, my God. Thank you. What an intro. That rocked. Thank you.

• 2:42Laci Mosley?

  Thank you, girl. I had to get to your accomplishments quick. I was like, I've been up here for five minutes. Also, she got, have y'all heard of Santa University?

• 2:50Speaker 03

  That's really the one to lead with, probably. I like, I loved your, I mean, I know that I told you when I read it a year ago, but like, your book is so incredible. It's like one of the funniest books I've ever read. I just, you know, we're just two authors hanging out.

• 3:08Laci Mosley?

  Hanging out, two authoresses. Now, your book is way more legit than mine. Okay, like, New York Times is legit, but.

• 3:16Speaker 03

  Oh, it's so funny.

• 3:17Laci Mosley?

  Thank you for saying that. It means so much, like, coming from you, because you're such a savant. It's ridiculous. I don't know where you find the time to do all of these things.

• 3:25Speaker 03

  Don't go anywhere.

• 3:26Laci Mosley?

  That works. It works.

• 3:31Speaker 03

  It works.

• 3:32Laci Mosley?

  So, I know you've been on the show before, but you know, we always ask here, what's your relationship with scams? Like, have you been scammed recently? Or have you seen any scams you're obsessed with? It could literally be anything.

• 3:44Speaker 03

  Ooh, I wonder if you, we were just talking about this before we started recording. I feel like podcasts pivoting to video is a scam. And I object, and I resist it. I, like, I, I don't know. It's like.

• 4:04Speaker 03

  We both, you know, appear on camera, we both appear on stage, right? Okay, that's fine. It's part of the contract that you, like, the social contract that you will like, do your best to look nice. Podcasts, that should not, no, no, you're supposed to look actively bad. I feel like when I have people on my podcast, I find out what they actually look like. And I, it's intimate, it's better. But now, yeah, in the past couple of years, it's like, I'm, I'm, I'm wearing like lip gloss and this weird glitter eyeshadow right now because I was like, you never know.

• 4:40Laci Mosley?

  You look amazing.

• 4:41Speaker 03

  You just never know. I had a, I, it just takes one, like, you know, I didn't know it was being filmed or they were gonna use the footage. And so it's me like, sitting on the floor of my ex-boyfriend's room at like this horrific angle. And then that was the thumbnail. You're like, this is a scam. This is a scam. I don't want to look nice. That's not what I agreed to. So that's, that's a scam that's been on my mind.

• 5:07Laci Mosley?

  We shouldn't have to get into full drag to do a podcast. And unfortunately, as cis presenting women, like, yeah, like, bitch, I'm not trying to be on your podcast looking crazy. I was using my other computer where the camera is older and people use the footage without telling me or asking me. And the internet is forever. If you Google Lacey B E T, uh, it was an Avette Nicole Brown movie. And I went to her screening after work. When I tell you I was greasy as fuck, like, I was, I was looking down bad. I looked like I was in a Tyler Perry movie and I was about to go to church to get off crack. And this is one of the first images that comes up of me. And I'm like, the internet is forever. Like, bro, you cannot do that.

• 5:48Laci Mosley?

  And they'll post it and they'll be like, oh, I'm sorry, you didn't know. I'm like, in my, like, we do record some stuff because the fans love it and I'm getting a lot of pressure. But I didn't sign up to be a talk show host, bitch. Like, why do you need to see my face?

• 5:59Speaker 03

  Right. It's, and it's like, you should be making more if you have to do that. I, it's just wild. God, I love, I mean, I, I feel like anytime someone takes a picture of you, you should have to be like, okay, there was a profile, the picture. Of me that comes up that drives me nuts was like, it was like a piece I was really excited about. I was like, wow, I can't believe this. And like, the photographer came to my hometown. I really liked the pictures, except for a couple. And they chose like, one of me that like, I don't know, my friend, I was like, please be honest with me. What is the vibe of this picture? And she's like, you look like you survived a school shooting and you started a community garden. And you're like, oh, no.

• 6:41Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 6:43Speaker 03

  But it is exactly what the picture looks like. It looks like I've survived some horrific tragedy. But I'm going to be okay. And you're like, that's not the picture you want for, look at this comedian. Horrible.

• 6:56Laci Mosley?

  Right. Oh, it's just, for me, it's just so disingenuous too. I'm like, you can't just assume that people want to be on camera for a podcast. I do my best work when I'm looking like a bum, like, bro, like, don't do this to me. There's one where I'm like, in a bad wig, like, like, that I had just put on for the podcast, a wig and a hat. And they like, have this on the internet now. It'll be there forever. And I know people are gonna pull it up and be like, this you ugly, like, it's just.

• 7:20Speaker 03

  Right. It's any time for the rest of your life where people are like, it's not a big deal, da, da, da. It's like, especially, I don't know, some people have secretly gigantic audiences and then I'm just like ugly on their YouTube channel until I die. And you're like, well, all right, cool. I will never hear the end of this until the internet mercifully shuts down. So that's, that's the scam that's been on my mind.

• 7:43Laci Mosley?

  That is a real scam. And I know the fans are gonna be split between it, because a lot of them are like, we want more clips. And when I post clips, they really like, like to engage in that. But I'm also like, aren't y'all supposed to be watching auditions while y'all listen to this? Aren't you supposed to be mopping the floor? You're supposed to be driving. You should not need to look at me.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  As a fan of podcasts, I like the clips a lot. But as a person who does them, I hate them.

• 8:13Laci Mosley?

  As a fan, I do like them too, but I'm like, we didn't sign up to be talk show hosts. We all Oprah now? I don't got nothing to put under y'all's chairs.

• 8:23Speaker 03

  Oh, God, what is like the podcaster version of putting something? It's like, just like, I don't know, like a

• 8:28Laci Mosley?

  Giveaways.

• 8:29Speaker 03

  Packet of Cheez-Its. You're like, oh, yeah, like coupons for a mattress.

• 8:34Laci Mosley?

  Oh, what's the pos- it's La Croix. It's definitely La Croix. I'm like, you'll get a La Croix, you'll get a La Croix, you'll get a coconut La Croix.

• 8:40Speaker 03

  It's La Croix and like Adam and Eve coupons.

• 8:45Laci Mosley?

  Okay, that's the one thing that I have not yet to sell is like some sex stuff. I think they might appear on the show, but I haven't been like, personal experience, ooh, y'all, I put this on my coochie and it, I flew to space.

• 8:58Laci Mosley?

  And I have nothing wrong with it. I just, I don't know why.

• 9:01Speaker 03

  I had to do that once and it is like the most stilted ad I've ever recorded where you're like, and, and let me tell you, it worked.

• 9:12Speaker 03

  I, I couldn't get there, couldn't get there for the ad.

• 9:16Laci Mosley?

  When I tell you my clitoris was smoking afterwards.

• 9:24Laci Mosley?

  And it's like, it's fully true, but I just feel so weird saying it.

• 9:27Speaker 03

  You're like, that doesn't help the parasocial problem at all to be like, hi, guys, I'm being paid to tell you that I came yesterday. Cool.

• 9:38Laci Mosley?

  No, it's not helping the parasocial allegations and I'm one of the worst.

• 9:42Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 9:42Laci Mosley?

  I, I do it out loud. So, yeah, you're absolutely right.

• 9:45Speaker 03

  You got it. You got it. It's, that's the job, I guess.

• 9:48Laci Mosley?

  Hey, she's and him's and them's. You wanna get your booty hole done?

• 9:58Speaker 03

  And you can use it wherever you want.

• 10:01Laci Mosley?

  Use my code, scam goddess for bootydoer.com. Get your booty done. All right. And we're back to the show.

• 10:10Speaker 03

  I love that when the shows where it's like you hear like some weird ad. I remember I was listening to like some murderer podcast or something and it was it was like a really long ad for pretty litter and it was like make sure your kitty has litter that's pretty and then it goes back to like she had been locked in a closet for four days. You're like this is nuts. This is nuts.

• 10:32Laci Mosley?

  But yeah, so I know the pretty litter ads. They were great. But yeah, no, it's this is such inside baseball, but I'm sure you guys it's helpful to know what is a scam and what isn't like I try and use the products that come to me and I'm actually very uncomfortable because tomorrow I have to go get some lingerie from Adore Me and because I'm in Ireland, I couldn't just send it to my place because it's a corporate apartment that's like got this gate that you have to pay to get through. And so people don't really send like and in Ireland, like they don't give a fuck. They're like, oh, we have another a work life balance. Oh, we just leave stuff anywhere. No rushing ever. Like they're just so fucking chill and but I know they're so chill that I wouldn't get

• 11:13Laci Mosley?

  the package. So I sent it to my production studio and Scott Sonny, my producer, just informed me that it arrived. So now I'm like, I gotta go to this production studio tomorrow before work and be like, hey, y'all, um, y'all got my box of Adore Me panties and um, and I'm excited to put them on. I'm so excited for it, but I'm like, they're gonna be like, this bitch ordering like lingerie to her job.

• 11:38Speaker 03

  To work. You're like, no, no, this is this is the money lingerie. Don't worry about it. Don't worry about it.

• 11:43Laci Mosley?

  This is also work, but it's also lingerie that I enjoy. But can I let's walk, let's walk into the conference room. So this is how my life works.

• 11:53Speaker 03

  Like this is actually a this is me being very professional is showing up to pick up my underwear at work. You should be proud of me.

• 11:59Laci Mosley?

  But I love products like endorsing them when I'm using them, which is what I really make sure that we do on the show because I, you know, a lot of ads can be a scam. So we really try to make sure like I'm using it. I like it. It's not creepy. It's not bad. It's not gonna be a recall on 3am, you know. But a lot of these companies have scammed me like Quince, they scam me. I just be going over there buying anything like it's not even free no more. I'm over there like what kind of y'all got a new trench like, oh damn, they got me. I love it over there.

• 12:27Speaker 03

  When they stopped selling it like, yeah, sometimes when I have gotten like sponsored stuff and then I keep buying it. I was like this, was this the plan? Was this the plan the whole time? Like was I the mark?

• 12:38Laci Mosley?

  I was definitely Quince's mark because I got all this stuff and I keep going over there. Then one of the few companies I listen me emails. I'm like, oh, y'all restock that top. Oh, yeah. Let me get over there.

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• 13:56Laci Mosley?

  Let's get into my favorite segment here, Historic Hoodwinkings. So today, Jamie, we are talking about a Taylor Swift superfan, Rebecca Fox, who organized a Swiftie fan event in New Orleans that turned into, like, basically what was like a daydream and then it turned into a nightmare. And y'all know, sometimes we love our historic hoodwinkers, sometimes we hate them. I don't know yet. Swifties do not come for me. Like, I'm, y'all really be...

• 14:25Speaker 03

  No, there's enough going on. Please, please leave us be.

• 14:29Laci Mosley?

  For some reason, fans of the Sagittarius just are so gang related because Nikki Minaj's fans, Nikki's a Sag too, and their, and her fans are also like, "We will kill you." And so I, I keep my mouth shut when it comes to Tay-Tay. I admire her business acumen and that she's the first lady of the Kansas City Chiefs. So, you know, you go, girl.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  Happy for her. I, this is, I'm so excited for this because I love, I love a failed fan con. I love a failed fan con.

• 15:00Laci Mosley?

  I wanted to go right. Okay, so this is Rebecca Fox. And what I'm getting right away is like very much an Eras Tour look. Um, we've got crystals, we've got the red, we've got a cup that also.

• 15:14Speaker 03

  The, oh yeah, the era's poor. Okay.

• 15:19Laci Mosley?

  Oh, and it's like pink. It's like pink booze.

• 15:21Speaker 03

  God, that lady knows how to merchandise. Holy shit. The era's poor. It looks good. It's pink.

• 15:29Laci Mosley?

  Is it beer? Is it pink beer? I would imagine if it's a pour.

• 15:33Speaker 03

  Cider or something?

• 15:35Laci Mosley?

  Because if you call something a pour, it's usually a beer. I'm learning that in Ireland.

• 15:39Speaker 03

  I was like, you're the Irish one now.

• 15:40Laci Mosley?

  I am very Irish. I'm black Irish and, you know, I went on a date with Liam and we, he don't know it yet, but we getting married in two weeks. So I can get my citizenship and my tax breaks. Okay, y'all, I'm not coming back to America. Y'all don't even gotta worry about me, sweetheart. Okay? Me and Liam.

• 15:56Speaker 03

  Who could blame you?

• 15:57Laci Mosley?

  I just can't believe Liam didn't realize how fast he fell in love with me. And so, you know, that's my life now. Okay? And then I'm having my babies Shamrock and Four Leaf and.

• 16:10Laci Mosley?

  Live my life.

• 16:12Speaker 03

  I love your, I love that you're in your Ireland era. Yeah.

• 16:15Laci Mosley?

  It's an era, for sure.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  It is.

• 16:17Laci Mosley?

  Girl, we'll talk. But so, yeah, she's got the merch, Rebecca's got the merch here, she's got the cup, she's got the outfit on. Okay, I see you. So this is Rebecca Fox's origin story. In March 2023, hardcore Swiftie Rebecca Fox from Metairie, Louisiana, went all out to make sure she could attend night one of the Eras Tour in Phoenix. So that was where this tour started. She's in Louisiana, but she said, baby, we going to Phoenix because I gotta be at that first show.

• 16:48Speaker 03

  God, this tour has been going on for so long. It's still happening, right?

• 16:53Laci Mosley?

  Is it?

• 16:54Speaker 03

  I don't even know.

• 16:56Laci Mosley?

  All I know is it did extend and she gave all of her, like, crew and stuff, like bonuses, like hella bonuses and.

• 17:03Speaker 03

  Oh, that's good. That's, oh, yeah, okay. So it, it ends in, at the end of the year.

• 17:08Laci Mosley?

  2024. So it, by the time this episode comes out, the Eras Tour will still be happening.

• 17:17Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that lady is out here stomping around the world, okay? She said, "I'm leaving no dollar unspent. Give it to me."

• 17:26Speaker 03

  Holy cow. Yeah, she's like, "Let's see if we can get a second billion in. Let's just see."

• 17:31Laci Mosley?

  I mean, I don't blame her. That's what Beyonce be doing. Sometimes, like, I'm a stan. I'm not a stan because I don't put someone else's identity into my personality. That's just personally not for me. But I do love Beyonce. But even me, sometimes I be like, "Okay Beyonce, like, now I gotta go buy your hair products and everybody's saying they're really good." I'm like, "Beyonce, get your hand out of my face." Like, every time I turn around, you got something for me to buy. And I will do that. I will do that.

• 17:57Speaker 03

  We've got, you're like, "And of course I will show up." I, there, I think it's four pop stars now are billionaires, because it's like Taylor, Beyonce, Rihanna, and I think Selena Gomez now too, because she has that makeup brand.

• 18:10Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. Heard good things about that.

• 18:12Speaker 03

  It's great.

• 18:13Laci Mosley?

  Selena sponsored the show. Beyonce, give me some of that silver for the show. Why I gotta buy it?

• 18:18Speaker 03

  Look, if Rare Beauty wants to partner, I, I love your stuff. I love your stuff, Selena.

• 18:25Laci Mosley?

  This is our scam. We're like, "We love y'all, like, please."

• 18:28Speaker 03

  We love the billionaire girls.

• 18:30Laci Mosley?

  Don't let Tay-Tay get into her product era. It's gonna be over for us. I know she already has some stuff, but when she really gets into her Rihanna product era bag, it's over for us. Like, it really, truly is.

• 18:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 18:42Laci Mosley?

  So Rebecca, back to Rebecca. She flew out so she could be at the Eras tour in Phoenix when it starts. And this is her saying, "I knew that one thing, I, I knew that the one thing I had to do was see it before anybody else did." This is what Rebecca Fox told People Magazine. She said, "I am an early mover. Ain't nobody gonna put no TikTok clips up of this concert before me."

• 19:06Laci Mosley?

  Which, um, not to be like a boomer, but I really hate that y'all be filming concerts. Like, at this point, everyone has a professional videographer. Get, get you a few little videos. Like, I'm here. I do that too. I think that's cute. But if you spend the whole concert with your hand up, with the camera up, like, are you even there? Like, what are you doing?

• 19:26Speaker 03

  I especially would like how expensive those, yeah, I do feel myself turning into an auntie when I see stuff like that, where it's just like, but you like spent your life savings to be here. And you're on your, you're on your phone the whole time? Help me understand.

• 19:40Laci Mosley?

  I feel like that's how they justify it. It's like, if I spend so much, then I have to have these clips. But it's like, these clips are gonna be floating around. Everyone has these. Like, at Renaissance, we was throwing ass. Like, I went twice. I went on her birthday and I went in New Jersey and we were throwing ass. We were also taking videos. I was taking videos. But, but I'm not like a videographer, like, up here just like the whole time. Like, let me get every angle. Like, no, enjoy it. Be alive.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, the, I think the last big concert I went to is like Lady Gaga at Dodger Stadium a couple of years ago. And you're like, yeah, my seat sucks. Like, I'm just gonna be here, cuz like, no one gets anything out of my, like, like, 5,000 feet away view of tiny Lady Gaga.

• 20:21Laci Mosley?

  You're just zooming in so hard.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're just like, look at these three pixels. What an awesome day for me.

• 20:27Laci Mosley?

  You can tell it's her. You can tell it's her. Just point a little bit. So Rebecca says she got tickets to opening night, but flights and hotels would have cost thousands of dollars. So what did she do? To save money, she took a train to Los Angeles and drove a rental car to the Phoenix show. But that meant she spent less than 24 hours in the city and didn't get to mingle with any of the other super fans. So my babes took planes, trains, and automobiles.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  God. That's, how old is she?

• 20:56Laci Mosley?

  According to her Facebook, she graduated high school in 1999, so let's do some quick math.

• 21:01Speaker 03

  Whoa, she looks very young. Wait.

• 21:03Laci Mosley?

  If she graduated in 99, that means she would have been 18 in 99.

• 21:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, so then she's like 42 in this picture?

• 21:10Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, or 41.

• 21:12Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 21:12Laci Mosley?

  Well, okay, when you think about Taylor's age, Taylor's like 36?

• 21:16Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:17Laci Mosley?

  They're not that far apart in age.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, no, I, no, I, I feel like.

• 21:21Laci Mosley?

  So she's actually probably like the person who was listening to the T-Swifty mixtapes.

• 21:25Speaker 03

  She was the day one, yeah.

• 21:28Laci Mosley?

  Teardrops on my Like she was, you know, and she was like, that's not even her best work. I don't even know about the stuff she did before when she was in Pennsylvania. Like she's like that.

• 21:36Speaker 03

  I remember, I remember hearing that song on the radio and like whatever, eighth grade or whatever and uh being like, this song sucks. She's not gonna, she's not gonna amount to anything. And it's like the wrongest person to ever live.

• 21:50Laci Mosley?

  Yes, tight tight with eating. So she, she does all this, right? And, and she goes there, she says that, I didn't get to trade bracelets. I didn't get to meet anybody. I didn't get to take a photo outside of the stadium. Fox said, Fox suspected that the tour would come to her hometown of New Orleans at some point. And she decided to do everything in her power to ensure her next concert experience lived up to her dream. So, baby girl, first of all, well, baby woman, baby woman.

• 22:19Laci Mosley?

  You thought, go fly to LA, driving all the way to this concert in Phoenix, probably sleeping in your car. You, and then turn around 24 hours later, why would you think that would be an enjoyable experience?

• 22:32Speaker 03

  No, I.

• 22:33Laci Mosley?

  You're tired.

• 22:35Speaker 03

  That's exactly, and Phoenix, having driven to Phoenix myself, it's always a little further than you think it is. It's long, that's a hike.

• 22:44Laci Mosley?

  Also, like, baby girl, this ain't even ages, but when you start to hit them 40s, like this, the stamina of this kind of drive and doing all this, especially if you were by yourself, like.

• 22:56Speaker 03

  This is like, this is a, this is a 19 year old on coke's kind of mission.

• 23:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, you need to be snorting vivants, like, baby lady, this was too much for you.

• 23:09Speaker 03

  Yeah, this is very ambitious, very ambitious. I would not, there's no one I would do this for.

• 23:16Laci Mosley?

  We're younger than that and I would not do that. I would not, I would like, my knees, they just said something to me.

• 23:22Speaker 03

  I'll watch, I'll watch the bootleg clips from, from all the children that are at the concert, yeah.

• 23:28Laci Mosley?

  And she be switching it up, so you never know what you're gonna get at your concert. That's why I love my Beyonce's was like, she was giving us new fits. She was giving us new stuff in the set. Like, it wasn't like every show was the same. She used Europe to warm up while her foot was still bad. And then she really came to America and gave it to the girls. So, well, she did right, cause they were not going up enough, so.

• 23:46Speaker 03

  Well, cause it's also like, I mean, it must get so, especially if you're Taylor Swift and doing the same concert for a year and a half. Like, that has to get so boring if you're not changing things.

• 23:57Laci Mosley?

  That's true. I mean, I guess the adrenaline from the crowd, I've done plays and stuff where you're doing the same thing for a long period of time. Not a year, but like, it's still somewhat exciting.

• 24:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, totally.

• 24:09Laci Mosley?

  So, the plan, because remember, she said I had a bad experience when I took the plays, trains, and automobiles and, and I walked to the show and, and then, you know, I ran home. Like, she was like, that was too much. So now she's got a plan for a better experience when they comes, when Taylor comes to Louisiana. So, before the second leg of Taylor's tour was announced, Fox decided, this is Rebecca, to cold call the Superdome, a likely era's tour venue, and to ask if Taylor would be playing there. Rebecca later recalled the stadium's response was so cagey that I kind of knew immediately that there was something they were not saying. And so I started making plans to make the hotel block.

• 24:48Speaker 03

  Oh my god, Swifties are, are so cunning, and I mean that as a compliment.

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 24:55Speaker 03

  I'm like, we gotta, we, we have to like, start getting Swifties to pivot to like hardcore investigative reporting because they're so good at it. They're so.

• 25:05Laci Mosley?

  So good at it. We need them to organize everything.

• 25:09Speaker 03

  I really do. Okay, I'm gonna, I'm gonna make this prediction now. I think that there is a current Swiftie that is just like, developing all these ways to learn about Taylor Swift that will one day win like, a Pulitzer Prize for investigative journalism. Because if you're doing that shit when you're like sixteen, unstoppable.

• 25:27Laci Mosley?

  Unstoppable. I mean, it might even be a doc about Taylor Swift. I mean, if you even just get into her business acumen and like, how she like, got to Scooter Braun back.

• 25:37Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 25:38Laci Mosley?

  You know, like, her team of lawyers, I ain't fucking with them. You know what I mean?

• 25:41Speaker 03

  Terrifying, yeah.

• 25:43Laci Mosley?

  So, yes. Swifties use that power for good, okay? So, this Swiftie, Rebecca Fox, was like, oh, y'all hiding something. Let me get this hotel block because Tay-Tay's pulling up to the dome, okay? So after somehow figuring out that Taylor would be there for the weekend of October 24th, Fox booked twenty rooms at the Hyatt Regency next to the stadium, but when she wanted more. Rooms, the Hyatt couldn't do it. She then reserved 191 hotel rooms for that weekend at the Holiday Inn Superdome under a special block for Swiftie fans. According to Rebecca's version, she just wanted to make sure the rooms for fellow Swifties were at cost, so they wouldn't have to pay huge markups as it got closer to showtime.

• 26:27Laci Mosley?

  She resold the rooms to other fans for their value, $500, plus a $25 deposit. But the weekend quickly snowballed into a bigger event. So one, I think she's doing the Lord's work because we all know about inflation. Like, they call it the Beyonce bump, they call it the Taylor Swift bump, where everyone inflates their prices because of demand, which is fucked. I'm so tired of America. You're so ghetto, you raggedy bitch. I will beat your ass.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  It should be illegal to do that. I mean, I know that, like, every major act has basically said that.

• 26:57Laci Mosley?

  But, like, you should just be like, wow, our hotel is full. This is great. Not like, ooh, people really need somewhere to sleep. We gonna run it up. Like, fuck y'all.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  It's evil.

• 27:07Laci Mosley?

  I'm on her side right now. So Holiday House Dream, this is where things start to snowball. Fox decided to turn the whole weekend into a full fan fest, including talent shows, meals, friendship bracelet making, pool parties, scavenger hunts, dance parties, and themed breakfasts.

• 27:30Speaker 03

  This is like, I mean, I, I, I feel like already, like Rebecca's, like, eyes are bigger than her stomach in terms of like what you can pull off. Because even the thing with like driving to Phoenix and like doing, like, she's doing the most at all times.

• 27:46Laci Mosley?

  I mean, she's a real fan. She's a fan fan. And also, like, she is like a woman who is grown. So if she had been 19, I would have been like, maybe you can't pull this off, but you're grown, Rebecca, so maybe you can. I don't know, based on the decisions that you've made, but, um, you know, let's ride.

• 28:03Speaker 03

  I'm on board. I'm, I'm.

• 28:04Laci Mosley?

  I'm on board. Also, like, just friendship bracelets in your, like, beyond thirty. I'm like, I love this for us. Like, let's be children forever.

• 28:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 28:13Laci Mosley?

  Like, who said, why do we have to give up on childish things? Like, let's be childish forever. It's fun.

• 28:17Speaker 03

  It is nice when, like, I mean, I feel like Beyonce's fanbase is similar where it's like, you can have a, like, three-year-old that's a huge Beyonce fan and, like, a fifty-year-old, and they can feel, like, equally passionate about it. It's like, it's nice.

• 28:29Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. And, like, this year, her concerts were, like, a fashion event. Like, you know, we all had our outfits planned, and then she switched it up on us for her birthday. How's she gonna tell us, like, a week and a half before the concert, "We're all wearing silver for Virgo season"?

• 28:42Speaker 03

  Right.

• 28:43Laci Mosley?

  And we're like, Beyonce!

• 28:44Speaker 03

  Oh, and you're like, I've had my outfits for months.

• 28:47Laci Mosley?

  I've had it for months. Beyonce, why would you do this to me? And then I'm like, let me look up some silver. Like, me and all my friends down there, like, what do y'all think about this silver?

• 28:57Laci Mosley?

  Like, we will do that. We're upset. We will do that, though.

• 29:00Speaker 03

  Oh, my gosh.

• 29:02Laci Mosley?

  So, you know, but it's like, it's a place of community. It's like, we're all gathering around something that we enjoy and having fun. And so, that is what I really love about it. Now, when it gets into the deep fandom and the lore and the stalking and all that shit, I'm like, nah, I'm out. I don't know where Beyonce's at. I don't know what she up to. I don't know what her favorite color is. Like, I just like her concerts.

• 29:21Speaker 03

  Right. You'll, you'll invest in the silver for her.

• 29:25Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. I will invest. I will do that. And I will get my sacred, sacred sponsor to show.

• 29:32Laci Mosley?

  So she calls this whole event that she's now spiraled into Holiday House, inspired by the lyrics of the folklore track, "The Last Great American Dynasty", and as a reference to Swift's famous seventeen-million-dollar Rhode Island mansion, the most expensive home in Rhode Island. That is a nice-ass house. Ooh, what a beautiful view.

• 29:52Speaker 03

  My god.

• 29:53Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my god. I just know when Nicole Kidman mini-series could be shot there. Like, somebody's washing ashore. Everybody got a secret.

• 30:00Speaker 03

  That's a wig and a jacket house. Yeah.

• 30:02Laci Mosley?

  Yes, definitely. A bad, a nasty bad wig. It's, okay? And a white cable knit sweater.

• 30:09Speaker 03

  It's like, I, you know, that's a mystery. That's a mystery. How did the, how did the...

• 30:13Laci Mosley?

  It has to be a bit by now.

• 30:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 30:16Laci Mosley?

  Because Halle Berry, like, she did a showing of her most recent movie where it was like a bad wig showing because everybody cracks on Halle Berry's, like, bad little short wigs. And so she had wigs for everybody, like, bad wigs. She, she, like, leaned into it. So I'm like, I love that.

• 30:28Speaker 03

  That's cute.

• 30:30Laci Mosley?

  Look it up. It's so cute. So... Fox claims she organized the event in an attempt to cover the cost of the $10,000 food and beverage minimum required to reserve the hotel room block. So when she reserved all them rooms that she did not have money for, she needed to cover the cost of like, you know, like they'll be like, oh, you have to pay for this like food and beverage thing, like breakfast, whatever, you know? So she promoted the event to fellow Swifties on social media, including a 7,000-member Facebook group set up for the Holiday House. Fox listed all the events and their ticket prices on her Friendship Bracelet Project website.

• 31:06Speaker 03

  Oh my god, these fonts, these fonts.

• 31:09Laci Mosley?

  So I think we have to read the about of this because we, we need to know the origin of this page. And we will include a link to this page in the footnotes. So I'm gonna zoom in here. I might need to popcorn read this with you, Jamie. I'll take the first half, you take the second. Okay.

• 31:28Speaker 03

  All right.

• 31:28Laci Mosley?

  So the about page. This is Rebecca's Friendship Bracelet website, where you can book all of your Holiday House Taylor Swift Louisiana needs. So it says, "I've always wanted to start a business and become an entrepreneur. As a little girl, as young as six or seven years old, I tried lemonade stands. Look what I tell you about kids trying to have a lemonade stand. Scammer.

• 31:51Laci Mosley?

  Betting kids that I couldn't eat rocks. They were candy. And my favorite, making friendship bracelets." So she was like, "Bet y'all think I can't eat these rocks, but it was candy. I thought she was gonna eat real rocks."

• 32:03Speaker 03

  Two out of three of these are scams already. Lemonade and eating rocks.

• 32:07Laci Mosley?

  And eating rocks. "I soon got distracted and found other passions, but made bracelets again in high school for my friends. Forgetting about it as soon as I got to college, saved my yearly Mardi Gras parades when I would catch glass bead bracelets at parades and cherished them forever. My best friend's dad gifts me with glass beads in a bag every time he sees me to this day. Almost a decade ago, I had a DIY boutique, the first of its kind in the nation." First DIY boutique of its kind in this nation, in the nation?

• 32:42Speaker 03

  Too, that's too vague. How?

• 32:46Speaker 03

  When you say DIY boutique, okay, okay.

• 32:48Laci Mosley?

  So Etsy, okay. I'm walking with you though. I'm walking with Rebecca. You said it. I'mma believe you right now. And people would come and craft with me. They'd drink and paint at parties, but they'd also glitter things, make costumes and make gifts for their friends.

• 33:05Speaker 03

  I've never heard this before.

• 33:06Laci Mosley?

  We loved making friendship braces. She said it was first of its kind. Okay, Jamie? See, why you doubting her?

• 33:11Speaker 03

  And glitter?

• 33:13Laci Mosley?

  And glitter, girl. You didn't know you could also have glitter there. She did. So, we loved making friendship bracelets together and wearing them. I still have one that my friends who helped me work in the store all received, black and gold for our New Orleans Saints and labeled "family." Now, Jamie, I'm tapping out, tapping.

• 33:35Speaker 03

  Okay, okay, Rebecca, what do you got? The store crumbled under bad financial times and because people didn't understand it yet. And so I forgot about the bracelets again until I started dating a guy who always wore two white bracelets on his right arm. It turned out he had been at a concert slash party and two random girls had gifted them to him. He wore them until they turned from a cornflower blue into a light white. He couldn't remember anything about the girls who had gifted them to him, but it started a passion as he found new bracelets he liked at every concert, festival and trip he went on. I found, I found more that I liked and we gifted them back and forth and to friends and to strangers. Fast forward to our first trip with his family and his precious nieces made me a set of friend, this is getting long, made me a set of friendship bracelets. I say, thanks for visiting.

• 34:20Laci Mosley?

  Girl, get to it.

• 34:22Speaker 03

  Okay, we get it. People like bracelets.

• 34:24Laci Mosley?

  You like bracelets. You can skip wherever you want.

• 34:27Speaker 03

  To say, okay, Scott's like, yeah, this, this, the niece bracelet, you know, maybe some edits, Rebecca. To say that I'm a Taylor Swift fan is an understatement. And as soon as I heard the lyric, "Make the friendship bracelets," I knew what was going to happen. And it's safe to say I've never been more excited in my life. I've had the time of my life with you guys, making more bracelets that are so special with a huge group of people who share similar mindsets and who love these bracelets here as much as I do. I mean-

• 34:54Laci Mosley?

  This is a whole soliloquy about bracelets.

• 34:57Speaker 03

  I, I, I, I love the energy here, but oh, it keeps going.

• 35:02Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it goes on.

• 35:03Speaker 03

  Wait, how does it, how does it end? How does it?

• 35:06Laci Mosley?

  Just how does it end?

• 35:07Speaker 03

  Okay, welcome to the Friendship Bracelet Project. I hope you love it as much as I do, and I hope every time you look at your wrist, you think about your creations, the people who have given them to you, the people you've made happy, your former neighbors, nieces, college buddies, parade route friends, fellow Swifties, and your new and old friends forever. Love y'all so much. I hope you love the Friendship Bracelet Project, Rebecca. I appreciate the energy. This could have been whittled down to, I like bracelets.

• 35:34Laci Mosley?

  And Taylor Swift talked about bracelets, so let's do bracelets.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 35:38Laci Mosley?

  Yay.

• 35:39Speaker 03

  Yay.

• 35:41Laci Mosley?

  She was like-

• 35:41Speaker 03

  Wow, what a story.

• 35:42Laci Mosley?

  We have to start at the beginning. The year was 1980. I was a zygote.

• 35:51Laci Mosley?

  Like, bro.

• 35:53Laci Mosley?

  My first bracelet was an umbilical cord for my mother.

• 35:58Speaker 03

  My mother gave me my first bracelet.

• 36:02Laci Mosley?

  And then I got out, right. And then I got out of the coochie and the hospital gave me my second bracelet, a baby bracelet from the hospital.

• 36:13Speaker 03

  You're like, wait, more, more. Okay, so she likes bracelets.

• 36:18Laci Mosley?

  Then I realized I was allergic to shellfish and I got an allergy bracelet.

• 36:26Speaker 03

  There's so many, yeah, there's a lot of, I never really thought about how many depressing bracelets there are that you can get too.

• 36:32Laci Mosley?

  Right. I was actually an accident baby because my mom's first bracelet, the NuvaRing, broke.

• 36:42Laci Mosley?

  What?

• 36:47Speaker 03

  Wow, we are all Bracelet.

• 36:50Laci Mosley?

  We're all Bracelet. We are all Bracelet. I am Bracelet, you are Bracelet.

• 36:54Speaker 03

  We are Bracelet together. Wow, that's beautiful.

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• 38:05Speaker 03

  I support her, but you're like, that was long, that was long.

• 38:08Laci Mosley?

  That was a lot. We didn't, y'all, we didn't read out most of it. And I know y'all were like, get to it. We didn't read most of it. There's more, okay? So she charged an average of $40 for tickets to the events. The most expensive was a $150 brunch. The Holiday House got widespread attention and support on social media in the lead up to the concert, and over 1,200 Swifties attended. So I'm just gonna read a little bit of the ads here. So breakfast, you'll receive a sit-down meal in a picture-perfect setting with a surprise entertainment and era's fashion show for prizes. Click furlough for the, what, surprise entertainment? She's trying to leave, like, maybe Taylor gonna pop up and be like,

• 38:48Speaker 03

  Wait.

• 38:49Laci Mosley?

  "Teardrops on my..."

• 38:51Speaker 03

  I know, yeah.

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  "Ex-benadict."

• 38:54Speaker 03

  I just saw Tay Yoga.

• 38:56Laci Mosley?

  Tay Yoga?

• 38:57Speaker 03

  Tay Yoga.

• 38:58Laci Mosley?

  Tay Yoga.

• 38:59Speaker 03

  Tay.

• 39:02Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 39:02Laci Mosley?

  Yo, she branded. She branded. You got me. Namaste.

• 39:06Speaker 03

  That's pretty good.

• 39:07Laci Mosley?

  Namaste, y'all.

• 39:08Speaker 03

  Breathe in and breathe through.

• 39:11Laci Mosley?

  Breathe deep, breathe out, and start your day. I know that's right.

• 39:15Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 39:16Laci Mosley?

  We got a YNTCD pool party. You're being too loud, but it's cool. Come hang out with us at the hotel pool with delicious Nola foods. Okay, no, we have to. I'm sorry, Scott, but we need, I need to know the branding on these events. Um, go up a little bit. Let me see.

• 39:34Speaker 03

  Okay, scavenger hunt.

• 39:35Laci Mosley?

  Trivia Thursday.

• 39:37Speaker 03

  Geocache?

• 39:40Laci Mosley?

  Okay, Geocache Saturday, Sunday. Embark on an ultimate Taylor Swift-themed geocaching, geocaching challenge?

• 39:47Speaker 03

  I don't know what that is.

• 39:49Laci Mosley?

  So Scott Sani, our producer, says that Geocache is where you're basically doing a scavenger hunt, but with coordinates. So you have like longitude and latitude. This is what I'm talking about. The Swifties are some intelligent ass queens.

• 40:00Speaker 03

  They're scientists.

• 40:02Laci Mosley?

  They're scientists. They're like, this is fun for us. We gonna get out here with our compasses for, for...

• 40:11Speaker 03

  To find...

• 40:12Laci Mosley?

  For Tay-Tay.

• 40:12Speaker 03

  It's impressive. I mean, it's impressive. Holy cow.

• 40:17Laci Mosley?

  Oh, but okay, so moving on. The branding impeccable, Rebecca. I'm still on your side right now.

• 40:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, same.

• 40:24Laci Mosley?

  So before the weekend even began, things took a turn. Swifties in the Facebook group had issues with the room charges, but were scared to voice them to Rebecca Fox, whose behavior was becoming erratic.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  No.

• 40:39Laci Mosley?

  Rebecca, no. Rebecca, did you start doing that, that, that, that nose candy? Why are you erratic? We have a screenshot of a post that she put on Facebook. This is Rebecca Fox. She says, "Public service announcement regarding posting other events. Do you want to post stuff to do in New Orleans? Or restaurants? Great. Do you want to come in here and take all the hard work that I've done and then slap it in the face by posting competing events? You will be blocked and banned from this group. I don't even care anymore." It's not okay, guys. We're working so hard to give you this event. Yes, some are expensive, but you could win Taylor tickets. You have this amazing surprise. You have live entertainment. You have every single detail that has been thought out for you for 14 months.

• 41:24Laci Mosley?

  You have security. You have volunteers that are helping. You have all these favors and giveaways. We're giving away thousands in prizes at each event, including Taylor albums signed with a heart, extremely rare collectibles, Fearless dolls, Wonderstruck perfume, Eras tickets, extremely rare albums, etc. I'm sorry if I sound bitchy or defensive, but I'm getting really over this right now. We worked so hard for you and seeing some of you going and posting competing events in here that aren't even run by Swifties, that are being put together by people that don't even know the first thing about Taylor and talk shit about her behind her back as insult to injury. It is so rude. I wouldn't come into your business and pass out flyers for a competing business. That's what you're doing.

• 42:08Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna be at the Friday lunch, watching the talent show and live entertainers, and being excited for whoever wins the Eras tickets.

• 42:16Speaker 03

  EGOT. EGOT. Wow. And Lacey Mosley as Rebecca Fox.

• 42:24Speaker 03

  Wow, that is a menacing post.

• 42:28Laci Mosley?

  One thing you hoes won't do is advertise... This is my fucking corner, okay, bitch? This is my drug territory. And if you don't wanna get popped, if you don't wanna have me pull that fang out...

• 42:43Speaker 03

  The Paris, I mean, the Paris I was gonna think here is like, talking shit about Taylor behind her... Like, you're talking shit about my close, personal friend Taylor behind her back.

• 42:51Laci Mosley?

  You wanna go to events by shit talkers who don't even like Tay, like I do? Like, bitch, pull up. We're finna slide. Where's the Uzi? I'm about to squeeze that fang on you hoes.

• 43:05Laci Mosley?

  Okay, keep promoting other Taylor Swift events if you want to get shot swiftly.

• 43:10Speaker 03

  She has like a gigantic Uzi attached to a bracelet.

• 43:15Laci Mosley?

  I will let the chopper sing.

• 43:20Speaker 03

  Oh my god, wow, that's intense.

• 43:24Laci Mosley?

  It's so intense. There's capitalization in here. There's, this is, this one is upset. So people are getting scared. They're like, if this is my only hotel room and I'm having issues, I don't want to pipe up where Rebecca, okay, because Rebecca got that thang on her. It's a bracelet, but she'd choke you out with it, okay? So, so they're kind of just keeping quiet a little bit, which understandably so, I would as well. So if they lost their hotel room, right, there's no other rooms. And Fox would allegedly only provide a refund on a room in exchange for that person's Eras Tour ticket.

• 44:00Speaker 03

  Whoa.

• 44:01Laci Mosley?

  It says also, if for some reason you can no longer attend and want to sell your concert tickets back to the block, I'll refund your room as long as we can keep the room and the concert tickets within the block. I've done this for three people so far already, so it's an alternative for you. But I'm not refunding rooms that don't provide Eras concert tickets back. So she said, if you're not going, you better not be going.

• 44:22Speaker 03

  Whoa, how can she control that?

• 44:25Laci Mosley?

  I want a death certificate from your loved one.

• 44:30Laci Mosley?

  I want your tour ticket. And so someone says in the comments, I don't get it. Like, how is an Eras ticket worth the same as a hotel room? There's no way. Who would do, who would trust in that and give her the tickets? Doing trust, I like the activity of that. Who would do trust in that?

• 44:49Speaker 03

  I'm starting to not do trust Rebecca.

• 44:53Laci Mosley?

  Jamie, you not doing trust?

• 44:55Speaker 03

  I'm not doing trust anymore.

• 44:56Laci Mosley?

  But Jamie, hear me out. The mother events and venues, they talking shit behind Taylor's back.

• 45:01Speaker 03

  That's true, and she's my close personal friend, and I won't stand for it.

• 45:05Laci Mosley?

  Do trust in Rebecca because she is, you know, gang gang for Taylor.

• 45:09Speaker 03

  Women's wrongs.

• 45:10Laci Mosley?

  Gotta support women's wrongs if we're gonna support women's rights, okay?

• 45:15Speaker 03

  It's true.

• 45:16Laci Mosley?

  So TikToks and posts on social media from Swifties who attended claimed that nobody was checking tickets for the event, meaning that anybody could have walked in and there was no real need to pay for the tickets. The $150 brunch was the equivalent to a hotel continental breakfast. Now she put the continental breakfast and slapped the $150 on it.

• 45:34Speaker 03

  Oh my god, of course.

• 45:37Laci Mosley?

  She had the Swifties toasting their own bagels with the rotating bagel toaster.

• 45:41Speaker 03

  It's doing, doing the waffle flip, yeah.

• 45:44Laci Mosley?

  They had to do their own waffle flip with the cup of waffle juice.

• 45:49Speaker 03

  The little plastic cup.

• 45:53Speaker 03

  That'll be $150, thank you.

• 45:55Laci Mosley?

  Thank you so much.

• 45:56Speaker 03

  Wow, that's, that's brazen.

• 45:59Laci Mosley?

  I kinda love it. So, the friendship bracelet making party apparently included a small standard set of beads, only one pair of scissors, a long line to wait for that one pair of scissors, and no unique beads, which had been a selling point. So she didn't have no special Tay Tay beads, she had one pair of scissors for everybody.

• 46:23Speaker 03

  For like a hundred people, holy shit, okay, okay.

• 46:28Laci Mosley?

  Can you imagine?

• 46:29Speaker 03

  She worked so hard on this, Lacey, how dare you promote a competing event?

• 46:33Laci Mosley?

  She couldn't get two pairs of scissors.

• 46:38Speaker 03

  Brutal.

• 46:40Laci Mosley?

  They, I know they sell kids scissors in a, in a three pack or something.

• 46:43Speaker 03

  Right.

• 46:44Laci Mosley?

  You couldn't.

• 46:44Speaker 03

  If you're at a Holiday Inn, there's a CVS around the corner, but no, don't, don't exert yourself, don't exert yourself, it's all good.

• 46:51Laci Mosley?

  You couldn't have gone to the front desk and asked them if they had scissors.

• 46:56Speaker 03

  That's.

• 46:56Laci Mosley?

  I'm sure one of the Swifties did, they were like, I would not stand for this, and they went right on over to the Holiday Inn Express and, and got some scissors.

• 47:02Speaker 03

  They're resourceful, yeah.

• 47:03Laci Mosley?

  They really are. So, for the $75 pool party, this was at the Holiday Inn pool with one balloon arch, a few defrosted snacks that were eaten quickly, and no DJ because Rebecca ghosted the DJ who was supposed to be there.

• 47:20Speaker 03

  Whoa.

• 47:21Laci Mosley?

  So DJ, this is the DJ, DJ Warm Advice.

• 47:26Laci Mosley?

  What a DJ name.

• 47:27Speaker 03

  Whoa, wait, DJ Warm Advice?

• 47:30Laci Mosley?

  DJ Warm Advice.

• 47:32Speaker 03

  Okay, let's hear about-

• 47:34Laci Mosley?

  They'll get on the ones and twos and they gonna therapize you. Yeah, okay, they getting on the ones and the two cents, cuz she got warm advice. So, DJ Warm Advice said Fox claimed she didn't show up, but has DM receipts showing Fox didn't respond to many of her messages. Rebecca finally replied to DJ Warm Advice after night one claiming to never get an invoice. But DJ, but the DJ later posted the screenshot showing she had sent the invoice days prior. So, she lying on DJ Warm Advice, and we all know DJ Warm Advice gives the best advice. Like, she saved my marriage, so I don't know why you would lie on her like that.

• 48:11Speaker 03

  She's, yeah, she's a good woman, DJ Warm Advice. And that was a very reasonable rate. She's 125 an hour for DJ Warm Advice? Come on.

• 48:20Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and also like DJ Warm Advice also had a good gig here too, because all you gonna do is play Taylor Swift songs.

• 48:26Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's, you literally just, I mean, not to devalue the job of DJ, but it's just plug in your phone and press shuffle, like, you're good.

• 48:33Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I mean, if you wanna give us some cute mixes in between the songs, great, but-

• 48:38Speaker 03

  But they won't be mad if you don't.

• 48:40Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Yeah, you can play the albums in order and wrap us the session back to back. You could just hook up the iPod and leave.

• 48:50Laci Mosley?

  They would be fine with that. They would love it. So, the 22 hat. The straw that broke the camel's back came when Rebecca shared a petition for her to receive the 22 hat at the concert. The 22 hat is a black fedora that Taylor wears while performing her song, "22."

• 49:09Speaker 03

  Oh, okay.

• 49:10Laci Mosley?

  Taylor always gifts the hat to a child at the concert who also gets to hug Taylor. Now, reminder, Rebecca's somewhere between 40 and 42.

• 49:21Speaker 03

  Famously not a child. God, I

• 49:25Laci Mosley?

  Famously not a child.

• 49:26Speaker 03

  Nothing against Taylor Swift. I remember this music video and this fedora, but like, of course, she's giving away fedoras to children at her concert. You're just like, that just feels very her vibe. I appreciate it. Like, stick to your guns.

• 49:40Laci Mosley?

  Right. Listen, we don't need you to give the most dancing, dancing, or whatever. Like, you play that guitar, you give away them fedoras, you wear your red bottoms, and you give the girls what they want.

• 49:50Speaker 03

  Did you, did you see Trap?

• 49:52Laci Mosley?

  No.

• 49:53Speaker 03

  Oh, there's a very similar thing happens in Trap, where M. Night Shyamalan's daughter brings someone on stage and is like, "Let's dance together." I like it.

• 50:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh, is that the one where the serial killer is in the music video?

• 50:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. Josh Hartnett is, is the serial killer. The butchers at the concert. It's, I love it.

• 50:12Laci Mosley?

  I heard about that. Okay.

• 50:13Speaker 03

  It is really good.

• 50:14Laci Mosley?

  I need it to be on streaming, because I actually do want to watch it, because my favorite podcast, The Read, Kid Fury was talking about it, so I gotta see it.

• 50:19Speaker 03

  It's really good. I think you'll like it.

• 50:22Laci Mosley?

  So Rebecca asked people to sign the petition for her to get the hat due to her extreme dedication to the Swiftie community. A mom of a child who had survived cancer asked people in the group to support their child getting the hat, and Fox responded, "I'm sorry? Everybody's kid is cute. Everybody's kid has problems. Every family has illness. Like, fuck."

• 50:45Speaker 03

  Whoa. Whoa.

• 50:48Laci Mosley?

  I'm gonna read the rest. We have another Rebecca monologue incoming. So this is Rebecca's response to the mom of the child who survived cancer.

• 50:58Laci Mosley?

  "I just think it's fucking tacky as shit to come on someone else's request and then be like, 'Oh, vote for me too, bitch.' You fucking put your 40,000 hours into something and then ask for it? I'm sorry. Everybody's kid is cute. Everybody's kid has problems. Every family has illness. Like, fuck. It's ti- it's the same reason why not everyone's entitled to Taylor Swift tickets, just because X, Y, and Z. Like, put in an exemplary amount of effort and do something and actually read fucking instructions and stop asking stupid motherfucking questions." She put a period there, so I had to read it like that. "And I'm sorry, but if you haven't participated a day in this motherfucking group, no, we're not gonna fucking help. You get your shit," and I'm about to tell her that.

• 51:43Speaker 03

  Okay, yeah, she has a gun. She has a gun.

• 51:45Laci Mosley?

  "You get shit, and I'm about to tell her that."

• 51:48Speaker 03

  She has a gun for sure. Wow.

• 51:53Laci Mosley?

  This is the mother of a kid with cancer and Taylor like notoriously always gives these hats to children anyway. How you go cuss this lady out for asking for something that Taylor does for children for yourself? Your big grown ass self.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  I'm, I'm, she's older than Taylor Swift. Like, I'm not even trying to age shape, but this is a thing for kids. Like, that, that is, wow.

• 52:18Laci Mosley?

  Fuck cancer and yo kid.

• 52:20Speaker 03

  Wow. I, I can't, there, I, I did, this is weirdly related. I, uh, like, maybe like five years ago, so I was like in my, like, late twenties, right? Like, I, uh, I rode the Zamboni at a, a King's Game.

• 52:38Laci Mosley?

  I remember that.

• 52:39Speaker 03

  And it, there was also like a kid who, but it was like me and a kid. And, uh, I don't know what, I mean, like, I don't know how the kid, you know, came to do it, but like, he did not care. He did not care at all. He was not excited. And I was like 27 and like thrilled.

• 52:54Laci Mosley?

  You have a Zamboni tattoo.

• 52:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. So I was like, maybe I do have a little bit of Rebecca Fox in me where I'm like, you don't even appreciate this experience. I've been waiting for this my whole life.

• 53:03Laci Mosley?

  But you didn't run the kid over with the Zamboni.

• 53:05Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 53:05Laci Mosley?

  You didn't like take the kid off.

• 53:07Speaker 03

  I shared, I shared the Zamboni with him. That is unhinged. That is like, I, how, that, how do you even respond to that? Like, I, oh, sorry, you're totally right. Like.

• 53:23Laci Mosley?

  Nevermind.

• 53:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, you're right. That was so fucked up of me.

• 53:25Laci Mosley?

  Overcame a deadly disease. I can't believe I even asked for this thing that she does for kids.

• 53:30Speaker 03

  But you, you scammed people into buying a hundred fifty dollar continental breakfast. Okay, Rebecca, you've lost me. You've lost me, babe.

• 53:38Laci Mosley?

  And then became mafioso if people wanted refunds. They had to give up their tickets to the concert.

• 53:43Speaker 03

  So wild.

• 53:45Laci Mosley?

  So the fallout. Some visitors paid for the all access pass, which was $750, or even the VIP package, which was $1,250, and they wanted their money back. Rebecca had promised incredible prizes, such as a signed guitar, era's tour tickets, and VIP merch boxes, which several guests claimed never happened. Fans began demanding refunds after the disappointing event, and Fox took to Facebook to blame the Holiday Inn for the event issues. And just event. She's a venter. We've got another Rebecca monologue.

• 54:21Speaker 03

  Oh, my god.

• 54:23Laci Mosley?

  Crack my fingers.

• 54:25Speaker 03

  There's gotta be a Lifetime movie. This is, this is beautiful.

• 54:28Laci Mosley?

  At the end of the day, everyone had a room. Everyone was safe. No one got hurt. No one had sewage backing up. No one got food poisoning that I'm aware of. No one broke a limb. It could have been so, so much worse. I don't think the Fire Festival comparisons are fair or warranted. Those people paid like $20,000 each to be stranded on an island for three days with no running water, toilets, or beds. For now, I'm taking my posters down and my friendship bracelets off and repainting my nails as soon as I'm able, because it's just too painful to think about any of this right now. I'll make it right, but then I'll probably disappear for a long time.

• 55:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 55:14Laci Mosley?

  Rebecca has retained an attorney. And to the press, she says that she's not able to comment right now. My attorney is out of the country for two weeks. As badly as I want to be transparent and share some things that people don't know, I need to heed his advice and wait to give an official a statement until he returns. I know that I failed. I've admitted I failed.

• 55:41Laci Mosley?

  Yours and bracelets.

• 55:43Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 55:44Laci Mosley?

  Rebecca.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  She didn't say yours and bracelets.

• 55:46Laci Mosley?

  I was like, no.

• 55:47Speaker 03

  I've, that whole post is like, I, so accusatory, so defensive. And it's like, and now I can't even look at bracelets, my one true passion. I, it's so, that, that ends on such an interesting note where she's like, I admit it, I've failed. I was like, this is the first time I've seen a admission of that. I like, yeah, I, I love.

• 56:09Laci Mosley?

  Before you were like, but did you die though? But did you die though?

• 56:13Speaker 03

  That's kind of iconic to me where it's like, I'm gonna start saying that after shows. Like, oh, you didn't laugh? Oh, you didn't have a good time? Oh, you were really uncomfortable? Oh, so I charged a hundred dollars and I didn't really perform? Well, did you die? Like.

• 56:28Laci Mosley?

  Did you die? All right then, shut the fuck up.

• 56:31Speaker 03

  So, yeah. And I'm gonna, also, like, I'm gonna disappear for a long time. Like, yeah, I'm sure you will. Like, what is, like.

• 56:38Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. Is that a threat? We don't want you around. With someone you don't want around is like, I'm gonna disappear for a long time. We're like, yeah, good.

• 56:45Speaker 03

  The cope Rebecca, the cope. Do we know who, who got the fedora? I really hope the kid got the, I mean, I know it wasn't Rebecca.

• 56:53Laci Mosley?

  The kid got the fedora. No, Rebecca doesn't sound like she got the fedora.

• 56:56Speaker 03

  No, I mean, it doesn't sound like she ever stood a chance, even after threatening a, a child with a life-threatening illness. I.

• 57:04Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's not very fedora-worthy behavior. Like, you cursed that child out.

• 57:09Speaker 03

  The Taylor Swift karma on that, not good, not good.

• 57:14Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, little girl receives.

• 57:15Speaker 03

  Oh, wow, I love that there is.

• 57:16Laci Mosley?

  It's always a little child.

• 57:18Speaker 03

  I love that these are somehow news stories.

• 57:22Laci Mosley?

  I feel like Rebecca goes so ham that she might have like pushed the little kid out the way and like jacked the hat. I can see her fighting the child, being like, square up, little baby.

• 57:32Speaker 03

  I'm rooting for that kid. She's gonna fight again.

• 57:37Laci Mosley?

  Rebecca would definitely fight a kid at a Taylor Swift concert and have no remorse.

• 57:41Speaker 03

  Taylor Swift, New Orleans, another girl receives 22 hat. There's a pattern. There's a pattern in these stories that it's never a 40-year-old woman.

• 57:50Laci Mosley?

  That's why she wanted a petition. She went on change.org. She was like, we gotta change this from being little girls to me being a little lady and getting it, okay?

• 57:58Speaker 03

  Oh, it is kind. It is sweet. And then you have Taylor, and then you just have a fedora for the rest of your life.

• 58:06Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. But also, I feel like Taylor couldn't, like, okay, in best-case scenario, perfect world, maybe Taylor has two fedoras. Or maybe she decides to give it to this, you know, 40-something-year-old baby lady.

• 58:18Laci Mosley?

  I feel like hugging that woman, Rebecca, hugging Taylor Swift, Taylor would be like, oh, thank you so much for your, you know, love. And then Rebecca wouldn't let go.

• 58:28Speaker 03

  Yeah, they have to be brought up on stage.

• 58:31Laci Mosley?

  She would, they would, security would have to pry her, like, cold, dead hands grip off of Taylor.

• 58:38Speaker 03

  Brutal, brutal.

• 58:39Laci Mosley?

  It's like, you don't know how much I've done for you, Taylor. 40 hours of...

• 58:44Laci Mosley?

  You hug me longer?

• 58:46Speaker 03

  You're so ungrateful. People talk shit about you behind your back.

• 58:51Laci Mosley?

  You know how many kids I had to fuck up to get to the front row? I only got this because there were no kids. What do you think happened to them? I got rid of them.

• 58:58Speaker 03

  Do you know how many 11-year-olds I elbowed in the jaw to get up here, Taylor? Come on. Oh, Rebecca.

• 59:05Laci Mosley?

  They're all in the medic tent. How do you think they got there?

• 59:09Speaker 03

  Wow.

• 59:11Laci Mosley?

  She's just fucking Liam Neeson before 11-year-olds. Like, neck chopping them.

• 59:16Speaker 03

  Mowing them down, yeah.

• 59:21Speaker 03

  Served them right. How dare they be children?

• 59:24Laci Mosley?

  This is the real M. Night Shyamalan movie. That was a great reference, because this is exactly, she's the butcher. She's the butcher.

• 59:30Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 59:33Laci Mosley?

  Just to pivot here, we, we have a little time here. It's the holiday season. I do want to do a what's hot and fried because I know we haven't done them in a little while. Um, I'm sorry that we have to make them short, but y'all know I'm out here in Ireland and I gotta get up for the Ireland jobs. But Jamie, um, I do need just like a fake name from you. As always, snitch on your friends, family and your enemies at [email protected]. And we may read the, the scam aloud on the show. Just make sure the scam is retired because we don't want to what? Yes, fuck up your bag. Fake name, we don't care about gender.

• 1:00:05Speaker 03

  Okay, um, um, I'm just gonna choose the name of two minions, Kevin Stewart.

• 1:00:11Laci Mosley?

  Kevin Stewart, uh, which is very funny for whoever this letter belongs to because your name is very ethnic.

• 1:00:19Laci Mosley?

  Um, and I love it, it's beautiful. So Kevin Stewart says, hey, Lacey, I love you and I just got this in. Oh, thank you. I just got this in the mail. You need to look at this. I got a real check from a loan company. I don't know how they got my personal information, but everybody needs to know. Do not throw these away. Burn it, shred it, eat it. I don't care. Somebody else can cash it and then you're on the hook for the loan. What makes me mad is that they included an information sheet in Spanish. I live in a poor area. $2,000 is life-changing money and they preyed on desperate people. It reminds me of how MLMs target minorities. If I ever catch Francis C. Letter of Tower Loans, I'm biting him in half. Pictures attached.

• 1:01:00Speaker 03

  Whoa. Oh, my God. Yeah, this is really confusing.

• 1:01:05Laci Mosley?

  So it says, give your holiday extra cash with this budget boost. So it's like, give your holiday a budget boost with extra cash in all capital letters. And it's, um, a check that says Tower Loan. And, um, it's like your everyday experiences seem to add up. Tower Loan can help. We're here to help you with the extra money you need for the holidays. You have been pre-approved to receive the attached loan check made out in your name. This is a real check and can be cashed anywhere you would normally cash a check. Just cash the attached check prior to December 5th, 2024 and your loan will be automatically activated. If you need any more cash, please feel free to call us at this number. We hope you enjoy your cash. Um.

• 1:01:48Speaker 03

  Oh, that's so predatory. That's evil.

• 1:01:51Laci Mosley?

  And like, let's see what the interest rates are here.

• 1:01:54Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:01:55Laci Mosley?

  So the annual percentage interest rate.

• 1:01:58Speaker 03

  Where is that?

• 1:01:59Laci Mosley?

  The yearly interest rate is thirty five point four one percent.

• 1:02:04Speaker 03

  Hello, okay. Jesus.

• 1:02:09Laci Mosley?

  Two finance charge, the dollar amount. The credit will cost you is six hundred thirty one dollars and seven cents. Three amount finance, so if you like, wanna keep going, the dollar amount of credit provided to you on your behalf will be twenty five hundred dollars, basically. And then four total payments. If the amount you will have paid after you made all the payments as scheduled will be three thousand one hundred thirty five dollars. An annual percentage interest rate of thirty five point four one percent is insane.

• 1:02:43Speaker 03

  That's insane. And it's also like, I mean, obviously, it's in such, you know, like, after the fact tiny print that it looks, the finance charge of six hun- over six hundred dollars, that's crazy. Oh, that's so depressing.

• 1:02:59Laci Mosley?

  Like, Tower Loan, what the fuck is this? So, and also, it's also predatory, I keep saying also, but you're putting my information on a check. So what if someone did throw this away and then someone else goes to a check cashing place or figures out a way to like, cash this check? And now I'm on the hook financially for it.

• 1:03:18Speaker 03

  Hmm. That's, ugh, I mean, that's how I feel like you can tell that like, we're, we're living in dark time. People scam no matter what, but like, this feels like weirdly old school to prey on people who are like, living check to check. It, oh, that makes me so mad.

• 1:03:35Laci Mosley?

  And Kevin Stewart included two letters. There's another check that's in Spanish and it says dinero extra.

• 1:03:41Speaker 03

  Hmm.

• 1:03:42Laci Mosley?

  So it's like, they're really trying to come for people who might not read the fine print.

• 1:03:47Speaker 03

  Right, or just like, really need the money, that, yeah.

• 1:03:51Laci Mosley?

  And also, financial literacy is not taught in schools, and that is very much on purpose. It's by design.

• 1:03:56Speaker 03

  Yeah, I, God, that's a really good point. I, I think about how much, you know, I mean, this is not an original point at all, but how much, you know, pointless shit that I've never had to think about again. And no one teaches you how to like, do your own taxes. No one teaches you how to like, budget. It's either stuff. And I feel like that's like, the only people that I knew, I mean, I guess, starting in college who had any financial literacy, grew up with money. And then, you know, like, that's sort of seems like what it takes to have any understanding of how money works. Um, so.

• 1:04:29Laci Mosley?

  I wouldn't know shit without my parents. And even then, like now, in my career, I don't make money the same way that they do. Like, they have salaries. I get paid and I have to pay taxes on my own. So it's like, I now I have an accountant who's teaching me a different type of financial literacy. And it's like, I was blessed to have that, but so many people aren't because their parents are just trying to get by. They're trying to like, provide. And the schools need to stop, put the protractor down, bitch. And, and, and teach us how to pay these motherfucking taxes, and about predatory loans, and about interest rates.

• 1:05:03Speaker 03

  God.

• 1:05:03Laci Mosley?

  I didn't learn that kind of stuff until college, like the real, like, how to like, you know, take, like, I took a lot of like CPA classes because I have a business degree. But I didn't even learn certain things about compounded interest versus, you know what I mean, until I was in.

• 1:05:16Speaker 03

  I was like, I didn't.

• 1:05:17Laci Mosley?

  Uni.

• 1:05:18Speaker 03

  Right. It's like, and I, which like conveniently is, if you're going to college, like usually you have predatory loans by that point, and you're stuck with them.

• 1:05:25Laci Mosley?

  They already done got your ass by then.

• 1:05:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:05:27Laci Mosley?

  It's like, everybody's like.

• 1:05:29Speaker 03

  By the time.

• 1:05:29Laci Mosley?

  Eighteen year olds can't drink, but they can go to war and they can take out hundreds of thousands of dollars in loans.

• 1:05:34Speaker 03

  Right, to become an artist. Like, it just, I, I didn't even realize how predatory the loans I got for college, because my parents didn't understand because they didn't grow up with money. And then we were just stuck with all these god awful loans. And then you just like, learn it as it's happening to you. And you're like, oh, well, good to know. Like, can't get out of it. You're just like, stuck there for fifteen years. God, if you're, yeah, if you're a high school math teacher listening, like.

• 1:06:00Speaker 03

  Do what Lacey said, throw the protractor away for like a week and just show these children how to do their taxes. They will hate you for it, for now, but they will love you for it eventually because no one is telling like everyday kids how to do this.

• 1:06:15Laci Mosley?

  They'll send you letters. One of them will become a millionaire and buy you a house in retirement. Like, it'll be worth it.

• 1:06:22Speaker 03

  You'll take a lot of shit today, but 10 years from now, they will be so grateful.

• 1:06:27Laci Mosley?

  And don't tell them it's our little secret. Don't tell your parents, especially if you're in Florida. You know, they don't want their kids to learn shit. So.

• 1:06:34Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a thought.

• 1:06:35Laci Mosley?

  I send my kids to school for free babysitting, not for knowledge.

• 1:06:39Speaker 03

  Burn the books.

• 1:06:40Laci Mosley?

  They came home knowing new stuff. What the fuck? Who taught them that?

• 1:06:46Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 1:06:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, well, thank you so much for sending that in. We have reached the end of the show. Thank you so much, Damian, for coming on. This was such a blast. I hope that Rebecca Fox does not hear this because I'm afraid of her. I'm not even gonna lie.

• 1:06:59Speaker 03

  I really, please do not reach out. Wishing you the, wishing you the best. Wishing you a million fedoras.

• 1:07:06Laci Mosley?

  I want you to get all the fedoras, girl. I want you to snatch them out of the little sick children's hands.

• 1:07:15Laci Mosley?

  Just don't come for me. I'm swinging you, girl.

• 1:07:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, and that applies to all Swifties as well. I love you. You're some of our bravest soldiers.

• 1:07:25Laci Mosley?

  Our bravest soldiers. Oh, no, the Swifties came for me when I said they like Stanley Cups. Like, they were emailing me and I was like, you know what? I'm not even gonna play. I'm not gonna hold y'all. I love, I love y'all and everything y'all do.

• 1:07:38Speaker 03

  I've always just like, this isn't my, this isn't my battle. This isn't my battle.

• 1:07:41Laci Mosley?

  No, I don't want to be involved. I don't want you to know my name.

• 1:07:44Speaker 03

  I will shout out the, I'm working, I've been like vaguely working on this episode for 16th minute for a while, but there is like an organization called Swifties for Palestine that also, that like do meetups before shows and stuff like that. And they're sort of like, you know, Taylor hasn't said anything about like in favor of Palestine. So we as her fans are going to just do it for her, basically. And like, it seems like a really like wholesome and like good-hearted group. So shout out Swifties for Palestine.

• 1:08:16Laci Mosley?

  And also, I want to shout out, I do not know the name of this Swifty page. Maybe you do, but there's a very famous Taylor Swift updates page. It might just be called that, but it went dark for a little while. And then she came back and she was like, hey, y'all, my bad about going dark on the Swifty updates, but I refused to join the IDF, so I had to go to jail for a little bit. I had to do a little prison time, but I'm back. And I'm like, I live.

• 1:08:39Speaker 03

  Yes, that was, that is like what the full episode is about. Cause it's like, it's hard. I haven't been able to find her, but you're like, some Swifties have like immaculate politics. Like, will I just, yeah, she's a legend. The Swiftie who went to jail for not joining the IDF, you know, as it should be.

• 1:08:58Laci Mosley?

  And the way that she came back with it, like just be like, hey, y'all, my bad. I had to do a little spit, had to do a little bit, but I'm back.

• 1:09:05Speaker 03

  And then she immediately was like-

• 1:09:06Laci Mosley?

  Man, y'all who put me in a prison.

• 1:09:08Speaker 03

  And she was like, please stop speculating about Taylor being pregnant. Thank you. Like, and then just went back to business. I was like, good. I mean, the, the Swifties are efficient. They are efficient people. I just wish, you know, Rebecca had used that, used all of that energy for something a little more helpful and not, yeah, and not like snatching fedoras from, from the sick.

• 1:09:35Laci Mosley?

  What a sentence. Snatching fedoras from the sick. Wow. She said, fuck cancer and them kids. Oh, wow.

• 1:09:46Laci Mosley?

  This has been a great episode, Jamie. We always ask at the end, where would you like to be found? What do you want people to tap into?

• 1:09:51Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, listen to 16th Minute. It's a show I do, episodes come out every Tuesday that are about different internet characters of the day. Usually I will interview them and experts if I need to. Recently, we've done, people like William Hung was just on the show and that was super fun. We've had the 30 to 50 feral hogs guy. An upcoming episode is the woman who got gorilla glue in her hair. Like, just legends, one and all. Curvy wife guy, I mean, the list goes on. So if, if you have a favorite internet character-

• 1:10:25Laci Mosley?

  The day chances are we have talked about them. So check it out. It's really fun. Yes, it really is. Jamie, you're so fantastic. Thank you so much for coming on the show. So nice to be back. If you want to find me, D I B A L A C I, D of Lacy, on all platforms. If you want to see what I've been doing in Ireland, it's now live on my Instagram page. It's a show on Fox called Going Dutch. And I play a character called Conway. So.

• 1:10:53Laci Mosley?

  I'm so excited. Life imitating art. You'll see, but it'll be out in January on Fox. And I'm not going to tell you guys the scam got a television show release date just yet because I need to make sure that it is fully finalized with ABC. But it will be coming out early 2025 as well. So scammers, we up. Amazing. Congratulations, Lacy. What a fucking year. Oh, man. It's great, but it's also like I'm like WW smack now. Like life is like doing all the moves on me. I can really smell what life is cooking.

• 1:11:29Laci Mosley?

  Congregation. I want you to all get together and let's breathe in through our noses and out through our mouths.

• 1:11:39Laci Mosley?

  Namaste.

• 1:11:42Laci Mosley?

  Namaste. Namaste. Namaste. Namaste.

• 1:11:50Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Scott Zani and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is done by Kate Doyle. Stay scamming.

• 1:12:11Speaker 04

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• 1:12:43Laci Mosley?

  When the holidays start to feel a bit repetitive.

• 1:12:47Speaker 06

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• 1:13:14Speaker 05

  That sound? That's pro squash. Some of the fastest rallies in sport played inches from the crowd. The National Squash League is back in full swing for season four. The sport is heading to the 2028 Olympics for the first time, and you can see it up close right now in a city near you. Watch every match for free on YouTube. Search National Squash League and hit subscribe or follow live updates on Instagram at NSL.Sport.