FBI Fleeing Fugitive Scoots Underwater from Ponzi to Pond w/ Kyle Gordon

This week, Laci welcomes Kyle Gordon (The Simpsons, Kyle Gordon Is Great) to giggle over Matthew Piercey, who ran a $35 million Ponzi scheme, then fled the FBI on an underwater scooter. When he surfaced, agents were waiting for him with dry clothes his wife had provided. Plus, in Scammer of the Week, a California man was charged with multiple counts of second-degree burglary and grand theft after being accused of stealing nearly $25,000 worth of Legos. Stay schemin’! Did you miss out on a custom signed Scam Goddess book? Look no more, nab your copy on PODSWAG Keep the scams coming and snitch on your friends by emailing us at [email protected]. CON-gregation, catch Laci's TV Show Scam Goddess, now on Freeform and Hulu! Follow on Instagram: Scam Goddess Pod: @scamgoddesspod Laci Mosley: @divalaci Kyle Gordon: @kylegordonisgreat Research by Kathryn Doyle SOURCES https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/18/us/matthew-piercey-ponzi-scheme.html https://people.com/35-million-ponzi-scheme-escaped-underwater-scooter-11738585 https://apnews.com/article/california-fraud-guilty-underwater-scooter-2e1cc46a3f045137a6d20f6481cd138d https://www.sacbee.com/news/local/crime/article306483426.html https://www.sacbee.com/news/california/article247268914.html https://www.npr.org/2025/03/06/nx-s1-5320000/legos-theft-california

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• 2:26Laci Mosley?

  What's poppin', congregation? It's your girl, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess, back with you, with all of you. How are y'all? Okay. That's crazy. You know, that's crazy works for any situation. You could be like, "Oh, I just got a promotion." I can say, "That's crazy." You can say, "Oh, I just ran my car off the bridge, but we all right." That's crazy, you know? Good or bad, that's crazy, y'all. I am very, what? Yes, excited, elated for today's guest. Today, we have a New Yorker gracing us in the LA studio, okay? I already just had a bacon, egg, and cheese that just appeared when he arrives. He's a comedian, actor, musician, songwriter, and improviser.

• 3:11Laci Mosley?

  He has 6 million followers and over a billion views across TikTok, Instagram, YouTube, Twitter, and Facebook, so you have probably seen him. He's known for his unique and varied characters, as well as his pitch-perfect musical comedy songs. He's appeared on The Simpsons, Comedy Central, Adult Swim, and even Fortnite. Okay, give it a scan. Congregation, please welcome Kyle Gordon to the show. Hi, Kyle.

• 3:32Speaker 04

  Hi, that's crazy. That is crazy. Thank you for having me. I'm very excited.

• 3:38Laci Mosley?

  No, that's you. That's you. Now, Kyle, I have to know. What is your relationship with scams? Do you love them? Do you hate them? Have you run some that are past statute of limitations or had some run on you? It could literally be anything.

• 3:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't, I, I, you know, try to avoid them, but I think, I, I don't think, I can't think of any particular time that I've been scammed, although I may be subject to multiple scams that I don't even realize that are currently happening to me. Yeah, that's kind of, yeah, yeah, that's kind of the nature of scams. If they're really good or the person is really stupid like me, then they may just be kind of currently happening.

• 4:16Laci Mosley?

  Government, like, all the people shaking us down and not helping us. Like, there's so many scams being run on us.

• 4:22Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 4:22Laci Mosley?

  Is there anything in the news that you saw that was particularly titillating? Or?

• 4:26Speaker 04

  I don't know. I mean, I was thinking too, you asked if I had run any scams. I think I'd, I, over the years, I feel like I've run more little scams than I have been a recipient of scam. Yeah, exactly.

• 4:38Laci Mosley?

  Can you tell us one little harmless one?

• 4:40Speaker 04

  I had a bunch of terrible jobs when I was first starting out.

• 4:44Laci Mosley?

  We all do.

• 4:44Speaker 04

  Of course. And one of them was like, I was an assistant at a PR company. And I was trying to promote my own little shows in New York. So I would take the letterhead from the PR company and pretend to be my own publicist. And I would, I would send out, you know, press releases like, this incredible new up and coming talent. And I was trying to promote like a show.

• 5:04Laci Mosley?

  You need him.

• 5:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. And it just goes to show, like, it still didn't really work. I got, I think I got one article from like an Australian blog. And that didn't really help me sell tickets to like my 50 seat theater in New York. But I don't know, it was fun to like, try to, I was like.

• 5:20Laci Mosley?

  Hey, you never know. It might have been some shrimp on the barbeques at that show. You never know.

• 5:24Speaker 04

  Exactly, like, yeah.

• 5:25Laci Mosley?

  Especially like in New York where, I feel like, okay, did you ever have to do this? One of the biggest scams in New York, when I first started doing stand up there, was like bringer shows.

• 5:34Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, where you had to like, basically Ponzi scheme your whole friends and family into coming to your comedy show so you could get time.

• 5:42Speaker 04

  One of the ultimate scams, it's, uh, yeah, it's still, still going on today.

• 5:47Laci Mosley?

  Oh, it is, for sure. And they, they do it in Times Square too. They'll be like, oh, this is in Time Out Magazine. You know it's good. Time Out Magazine ain't nothing but a scam, a scam rag. And I love it. I love it for us. I love it for the tourists. But Time Out Magazine's like, this is the helicopter you should ride. And it's like, who paid them to say that?

• 6:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, literally when I was doing my scam pretending to be my own publicist, I did it in order to get in like a, a, a.

• 6:12Laci Mosley?

  A publication.

• 6:13Speaker 04

  And then like ta in Time Out.

• 6:14Laci Mosley?

  And that was like people's guide. If they didn't know anything about the city, you could definitely clean up there. I love that you used the letterhead. And it's like, all you did was use the name of the company you work for. And technically, you weren't employed there.

• 6:26Speaker 04

  I was, yeah, exactly, yeah. And I, I mean, technically.

• 6:29Laci Mosley?

  And publicists are expensive. They started like three, no, they started like, hmm, 4,000 to 8,000 to 10,000 a month, depending on who you are. Like, it's very expensive to have a publicist. So it's like, you got to have a little bit. You went to the office and you were like, I'mma take a stapler.

• 6:47Speaker 04

  Oh my god, if we're talking about statute of limitations are expired, I, the amount of printing, I would just like print out flyers. The ink is so expensive, it's ridiculous, yeah.

• 6:57Laci Mosley?

  And it always seems to run out at a time that I'm like, I don't think y'all gave me enough. Like, I'm like, I just popped this bitch into the Epsom, what do you mean? Low on ink.

• 7:08Speaker 04

  Exactly, right, yeah.

• 7:10Laci Mosley?

  I print on low on ink now. Like, it'll be like, low on ink, and I'm printing out size, and I'm like, no, go ahead and do it, cuz I know you got the ink.

• 7:16Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, yeah, you gotta just milk every drop of ink out of that, otherwise, uh, yeah, that stuff's expensive.

• 7:24Laci Mosley?

  Expensive as hell, I'm like, do I need to get my quill out? This is really what ink costs? But also, I started going on Amazon to get my ink that was compatible with my laptop, and I knew, or laptop of my, uh, printer. And I knew it was a scam, because I would get the printer ink, and it was like comparable, like comparable with this, or whatever, and it was cheaper. And then I would install it, and nothing would happen. And then I read the box, and on the back it said, you might have to install it a couple times before it works, you might have to blow on it a little bit.

• 7:52Speaker 04

  Really?

• 7:53Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was like, just blow, Nintendo it, and then put it back. And I did it, I was like, fuck it, I did it, I blew on it, and I stuck it back in two times, and then it was like,

• 8:04Speaker 04

  Really? That's good. I also love that you bought something that admits on the box, like, this is kinda fucked up, yeah, yeah, yeah. Can I curse, by the way?

• 8:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 8:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, okay, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, uh, yeah.

• 8:15Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, it was like, girl, we kinda sketchy, but we did send you the product, okay?

• 8:19Speaker 04

  Exactly.

• 8:20Laci Mosley?

  So you're gonna have to blow on it a couple times, put it in the microwave, real quick.

• 8:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 8:24Laci Mosley?

  On fifteen seconds, if you go past fifteen, you went too far.

• 8:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 8:27Laci Mosley?

  And then put it in.

• 8:29Speaker 04

  Right, right. We're like, we don't really know why it does that, but, you know, as long as you, just give it a second, yeah, like, just smack it a few times, yeah.

• 8:36Laci Mosley?

  Did you whack, you call customer service, did you whack it?

• 8:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 8:39Laci Mosley?

  Okay, we're gonna need you to take it out and blow, can you blow? How, okay, yeah, let me hear it. That was strong enough, that was strong enough. Okay, now I want you to take the palm of your hand and rub the bottom. Get that heat going.

• 8:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, kiss it, apologize, apologize to it, yeah.

• 8:55Laci Mosley?

  All right, now slide it back in there and then it starts working. They're like, thank you so much for calling scam customer service.

• 9:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, please leave us a review.

• 9:03Laci Mosley?

  Right, not too many reviews, though. We don't want people knowing what we're doing.

• 9:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, exactly. If it's a bad review, we just will delete it anyway.

• 9:09Laci Mosley?

  Right, leave reviews on Reddit and other like websites where people can't find us. Don't you dare take your ass to yelp. We do not need those kind of lawsuits, okay?

• 9:18Speaker 04

  Exactly, yeah, yeah.

• 9:19Laci Mosley?

  Oh, I love that. And I'm on the same page. I'm an actor. I did act in New York and the biggest scam I had acting in New York City was headshots. Yeah, I talk about it in my book quite a bit, just because it was such a racket. Like, the first time I got headshots, they were in high school and I got them in Dallas. And the headshot photographer made me look like Michelle Obama. Now, look, Michelle Obama is a gorgeous woman.

• 9:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 9:46Laci Mosley?

  But they made me look like current day Michelle Obama and I, at the time, I was 17.

• 9:50Speaker 04

  Sure, right.

• 9:51Laci Mosley?

  So that's not what I was really going for.

• 9:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, you weren't going out for the, yeah, the biopic wasn't even a glimmer in anyone's eye yet, so.

• 9:57Laci Mosley?

  The Photoshop was crazy. Like, I had a pearl earring on. All of a sudden, it was flat. It didn't have no shine to it. Like, they did crazy things and I was like, okay, these aren't good. So then I go to New York and I'm like, in New York, I get better headshots for money. So I, I met this person who had a headshot photographer and I looked at their headshots and I thought that they were pretty decent. So I was like, who is this guy? And he was like, oh, you have to go to him. He's photographed Denzel Washington's daughter. Like, it's gonna be amazing. And I was like, oh, Denzel Washington's daughter. Okay, look, that's close enough, that's close enough. So I went and this man had me taking photos out in the streets, at brick walls.

• 10:42Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 10:42Laci Mosley?

  I was changing t-shirts behind dumpsters.

• 10:45Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 10:45Laci Mosley?

  And I was like, this is Hollywood, this is how you make it.

• 10:49Speaker 04

  The big city.

• 10:49Laci Mosley?

  Literally, those headshots are completely unusable too. One day I'll post the headshots on Instagram so y'all can really see the struggle. Cause when I tell you they got me, and each pot, each time it was like 800 a pot.

• 11:02Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Were they, like, how were they posing you? Like, were they doing weird, like, things with your hands, or it was just, like, weird?

• 11:08Laci Mosley?

  Sometimes it would be a hand thing, but a lot of it was just like, you're against the brick wall. Oh, no, a car is coming, we gotta move. And then, like, we would go back out. And then finally, I met somebody else who had good headshots, and she was like, go to this guy. I go to that guy, and he's an old-school New York gay. He's got a lovely apartment, but we're shooting in his apartment on the living room floor. And I'm like, this is not a studio, but, um, okay. Maybe, maybe headshots are gorilla, maybe, because I haven't seen anything else. I was dodging traffic before. Like, maybe they're supposed to be this way. Oh, my God, those are horrible. I'll post all my awful headshots, just so you guys can see, because it's a nightmare.

• 11:48Speaker 04

  Please, yeah.

• 11:49Laci Mosley?

  Did you take any weird pictures?

• 11:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, must have taken, I mean, I also was, like, lazy and didn't want to pay for anything either. So I had one, I just had a class of, like, of a friend who, like, got, bought a camera and was try, trying to learn how to use it. Yeah, yeah, exactly.

• 12:05Laci Mosley?

  Young actors, the cameras are too good these days for y'all to be paying some photographer for a headshot. I get it for a photo shoot, that's a completely different lane. But for a headshot, if they just want to see what you look like, baby, you can go get a Canon. If you got a latest iPhone, you Gucci, like, you don't need to spend that money. But back in the day, oh, honey, they would be like, yeah, $800 for these pictures that you can't use. And also watch for that truck behind you.

• 12:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's always the thing. Yeah, the worst part about headshots is not getting run over by a semi. Yeah, that's, uh, yeah.

• 12:35Laci Mosley?

  And I was, like, putting the headshots on business cards. I talked about this recently, I was like, I had business cards with my email address, all this information. I was begging to get abducted, I was like, here you go, here you go.

• 12:47Speaker 04

  No, nothing bad like that has ever happened in New York, so you're totally safe.

• 12:50Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, totally safe there, totally safe there. So let's get into my favorite segment here, Historic Hoodwings. This is where I will regale Kyle with a famous con caper group of criminals. Uh, we'll see what he thinks all throughout. And Kyle, today, we're talking about a man named Matthew Piercey.

• 13:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 13:11Laci Mosley?

  I see you, Pier. So Matthew Pearson ran a $35 million Ponzi scheme, then fled the FBI on an underwater scooter.

• 13:22Speaker 04

  Underwater scooter? Wow. That, the fact that that's not part of the scam, that that's a, that sounds like a way you'd be scammed is like, you'd be like,

• 13:31Laci Mosley?

  I got these scooters, they are underwater, you're not gonna see them.

• 13:34Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's just a razor with fins.

• 13:38Laci Mosley?

  No, he said they're under there, y'all. He said, we gotta walk into the middle of ocean and then we got the key, and then it's gonna work.

• 13:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 13:45Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, so also, if you're the F to be in the eye and you get outran underwater, you gotta just let that go. Like, you gotta, that person won. It's cops and robbers, and y'all both robbers, honestly. So like, it's spy versus spy, you gotta just let that person go.

• 14:01Speaker 04

  And the fact that we know about it and are talking about it, the FBI lost twice. That we now have to talk about that they got outrun by a guy on a makeshift,

• 14:11Laci Mosley?

  That's like me robbing a bank on one of those duck boats that like drive on land and then you just can drive it into the ocean.

• 14:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's like a Diddy Kong racing hover, hover boat thing, yeah.

• 14:20Laci Mosley?

  Has anybody thought about that? Duck boat owners, y'all hit a lick at the bank and then drop your car into the sea. What they gonna do?

• 14:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, come on, you're tempting me now. I, yeah, I'm like, I should rob a bank, it's easy. Now I have the way to get out, yeah.

• 14:31Laci Mosley?

  There used to be an old running joke that people would take screenshots of their Uber drivers saying they were close by, but the car would be spinning around in the ocean, because the satellite was off.

• 14:40Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 14:41Laci Mosley?

  They were like, damn, I gotta go for a swim.

• 14:43Speaker 04

  Maybe it was a hover boat.

• 14:44Laci Mosley?

  Hello, Majid? Yeah, yeah, it's me. It's me, Lacey, okay. We're over in Joya.

• 14:51Speaker 04

  He's like, I've been waiting for you, I've been calling you.

• 14:54Laci Mosley?

  I was about to cancel you over your five minutes. It's like, yeah, we're in the ocean, bro. Of course, I'm over my five.

• 15:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, sorry, that's on me, Majid, yeah, sorry.

• 15:02Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I'm so sorry. I was trying to swim faster, but I couldn't really swim.

• 15:05Speaker 04

  That's, that's my bad, yeah.

• 15:07Laci Mosley?

  They said it was shark watch, they didn't even want me to come out here. Lifeguard was like yanking me back, and I was like, no, I need to get my Uber, okay? I gotta get to my headshots.

• 15:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 15:16Laci Mosley?

  Don't do this.

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• 16:53Laci Mosley?

  So the crime. Between 2015 and 2021, lawyer Matthew Piercy of Palo Cero, California, collected $35 million in investor funds for two companies that he helped run Family Wealth Legacy. So the companies were Family Wealth Legacy and Zola Financial. Those are where he got his $35 mil from. I will be calling him Matthew from here out because I don't know why my brain doesn't want to say Piercy. So Family Wealth Legacy, that company, solicited investments in securities, cryptocurrency mining, and life insurance. Sounds legit to me.

• 17:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's one of those three things that sounds less legit than the others.

• 17:38Laci Mosley?

  I don't know. You don't want a death coin?

• 17:41Speaker 04

  Maybe not, maybe, yeah, or maybe I should, I don't know, yeah.

• 17:44Laci Mosley?

  Like, oh my god, I'm dead by my coin.

• 17:48Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, no, I don't think a death coin is popping.

• 17:51Speaker 04

  Wait, what is a death coin?

• 17:52Laci Mosley?

  Oh, that's where you die and they make a coin after you or something.

• 17:55Speaker 04

  Oh, really?

• 17:56Laci Mosley?

  They just said they were soliciting investments in securities, cryptocurrency, mining, and life insurance. So when I hear life insurance, I'm like, how many coins can I get when I die? Or when my grandpapa die? And then they're like, you got sixty?

• 18:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, that would be-

• 18:12Laci Mosley?

  Family coins.

• 18:13Speaker 04

  That would be a big bummer if, uh, if I was the, what do you call it? The inheritor of a life insurance policy and I was given, yeah, like, you know, SpongeBob coin or whatever.

• 18:24Laci Mosley?

  Beneficiary of scam coin?

• 18:26Speaker 04

  Yes, exactly, yeah.

• 18:28Laci Mosley?

  Not a way to go.

• 18:29Speaker 04

  No.

• 18:29Laci Mosley?

  So Zola Financial offered loans promising a fixed return with the company's returns supposedly generating through algorithmic training. So a fixed return basically is saying like, put this loan out and forever and perpetuity, you're gonna get five percent off of it. And that's kind of rare and risky investment. Like, the only people who are giving you a fixed return pretty much is the bank and it's super low.

• 18:55Speaker 04

  And Bernie Madoff, and that worked out really well.

• 18:57Laci Mosley?

  He fixed himself up with your return.

• 18:59Speaker 04

  Twenty percent returns forever, yeah.

• 19:00Laci Mosley?

  He said, you ain't fixing to get this return. Y'all, y'all didn't read the typo. I said, fix, I said, you aren't fixing to get the return. That's what I said. I don't know where y'all heard fixed return, that's crazy.

• 19:13Speaker 04

  Right, right, right.

• 19:14Laci Mosley?

  But they're also saying that the returns were generated through algorithmic training. And what a spicy word algorithm is. We all know what the algorithm is, right? It's why if you post something on Instagram and you haven't posted in a while, it gets pushed down. Or if you post something on Instagram that's from TikTok, the Instagram pushes it down, the algorithm. Like, if, like, it's like, we all know about the mysterious. I feel like algorithm and the cloud are cousins. It's like, we know what you do, but we don't know how you do it and we don't know when you do it.

• 19:48Speaker 04

  Right. And then you hear someone say, like, we'll use the algorithm. It's like, uh, yeah, you, you, you want to try that, like, oh, you have it figured out? I want to use the algorithm to benefit me.

• 19:59Laci Mosley?

  The algorithm is my third cousin. If you just let me know what you need, I will call Algorithm up and be like, hey, Algorithm, this is my homeboy Kyle. Can y'all help him out?

• 20:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. If you want to hook up, I know Algorithm really, really well.

• 20:12Laci Mosley?

  Really well.

• 20:13Speaker 04

  We went to high school together. Like, yeah, so a lot of people are gonna promise you a lot of stuff. I know he's a really good guy. Once you get to know him, he can really help you out.

• 20:20Laci Mosley?

  I see Algorithm on the scene all the time, okay?

• 20:23Speaker 04

  He's out and about.

• 20:24Laci Mosley?

  And the time that I haven't gone to like, the club and Algorithm wasn't there, and he was like, come into my section, let's get bottle service. I was like, okay, Algo. I don't even call him Algorithm. I call him Algo. That's when you know him.

• 20:35Speaker 04

  Now I trust you, yeah.

• 20:36Laci Mosley?

  Yeah. So Matthew used the money to pay off his lines of credit, credit cards, and personal business expenses. So I was kind of responsible. He gave the money back to big corporations. They would have been fine, but, okay. The companies did not generate revenue sufficient to cover overhead expenses while paying investors the returns they were promised or otherwise led to expect. He used new investor money to pay off previous investor money, and Kyle, say it with me, what is that called?

• 21:06Speaker 04

  Ponzi scheme!

• 21:08Laci Mosley?

  Yes!

• 21:09Speaker 04

  There we go. There we go. Tale as old as time.

• 21:12Laci Mosley?

  Yes. I hope you all set it up there with me too, with us too, okay? So, some of his victims were members of the Bethel Church in Reading, where he was a parishioner. He claimed to have a line to President Donald Trump that, honestly, that's not as peculiar as him saying he knows Algo.

• 21:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, right, exactly.

• 21:32Laci Mosley?

  Like, you saying you have a line to Donald Trump, like, he got, everybody numbered his phone.

• 21:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. He accidentally probably gave it out to him at some point.

• 21:39Laci Mosley?

  He's like, no, call me anytime. You need to come to the White House for five million dollars.

• 21:42Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. Yeah, I know Algorithm. I can help.

• 21:45Laci Mosley?

  I know Algo. Algo, I birthed Algo. He's actually one of my kids.

• 21:50Speaker 04

  Close, personal friend. Yeah, yeah, yeah. He kisses, he wants, he comes to the, oh, like, kiss my ass. He wants, kiss my ass.

• 21:57Laci Mosley?

  You can meet Algo if you come to Mar-a-Lago for a million dollars.

• 22:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, by the way, you're, you're getting excluded. I don't think I've ever done a Trump before, so this is, uh...

• 22:05Laci Mosley?

  This is pretty good. I was losing my voice.

• 22:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, uh, yeah, wow.

• 22:08Laci Mosley?

  So, that, like, President Donald Trump, that whole claiming to be involved with him actually may have helped Matthew bolster his standing with members of a church where one of its leaders made a prophecy that Trump would win reelection in 2020. Now, okay.

• 22:29Laci Mosley?

  If we gonna say God can speak to you, we gotta say the devil can call you up too. Okay, the devil and Jesus got your phone number, okay? Sometimes they make a group chat, and it's like, which one do you wanna like or heart in the group chat? Who are you with? So, him saying like, "God told me Trump was gonna win." I mean, Trump did win, so maybe God did tell him something. I don't think God was like, "This is a good thing."

• 22:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, also, you know, it's a pretty low stakes prophecy when the odds are 50/50. You know what I mean? It's not like saying, "I'm gonna win the lottery." It's, there's only two options.

• 23:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, that's true.

• 23:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's not that crazy.

• 23:10Laci Mosley?

  But it worked out.

• 23:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, it did.

• 23:13Laci Mosley?

  So, of the proceeds, Matthew used about $1 million to buy a boat, and another million to buy and renovate two houses, plus additional money to pay a criminal defense firm. So he was getting ahead of it a little bit.

• 23:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, he had a, he had a premoni-, he, God spoke to him and told him, "This is not gonna fucking work out."

• 23:32Laci Mosley?

  God spoke to him and said, "Hire a abugado." But God also spoke and said, "Buy a boat."

• 23:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, actually, yeah, God, God probably, yeah, seemed to be more specific in his premonition to Matthew than it was to the priest.

• 23:46Laci Mosley?

  I don't know, the parishioner got one right too.

• 23:48Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 23:49Laci Mosley?

  It's like gambling on black or red. It's like, "I'm gonna hit." And if I don't, then you can be like, "The devil got in God's way."

• 23:57Speaker 04

  There you go.

• 23:57Laci Mosley?

  That's why y'all weren't praying hard enough. You can flip that. You can make it someone else's fault. So, back to Bethel Church and that parishioner. Bethel Church happens to be an evangelical megachurch that preaches prosperity gospel. That is always a scam to me. Watch Scam Goddess on Hulu. We talk about prosperity gospel. Prosperity gospel is the idea that God rewards faith and wealth, which makes it an easy mark for Ponzi schemers. So it's like, if you tithe today, you will get tomorrow. And, "Oh, we're looking at Bethlehem Church right now."

• 24:31Speaker 04

  Oh, wow.

• 24:31Laci Mosley?

  Oh, oh no. It's one of those churches where they got a drum set and several guitars. And it's just like, look at them, like, that's devotion. So...

• 24:44Speaker 04

  Like 50% of the budget goes to, uh,

• 24:47Laci Mosley?

  They're like this.

• 24:47Speaker 04

  You know, it's better than a Broadway show. Like, people are coming down on, uh,

• 24:51Laci Mosley?

  God is our bestie.

• 24:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 24:54Laci Mosley?

  God is our bestie.

• 24:56Speaker 04

  Oh, there we got the guitars.

• 24:57Laci Mosley?

  God is our bestie. Everybody put your hands in the air. God is our bestie.

• 25:02Speaker 04

  You can't see, hands are up, hands are up, all around.

• 25:04Laci Mosley?

  $50 from your 401K right now. Amen.

• 25:10Speaker 04

  Amen.

• 25:12Laci Mosley?

  Amen.

• 25:14Speaker 04

  Check out the app and donate there.

• 25:16Laci Mosley?

  Yes. Pull out your QR code. We've got God is our bestie on the screen. Like, come on now, listen to us.

• 25:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's no, uh, there's no, uh, tray going around. They got the QR code on the back of every seat, you know, like, it's easy to donate.

• 25:31Laci Mosley?

  Uh, it's hard for me to like scrutinize certain churches just because I am religious, but I do realize there's a lot of scammers in that field because honestly, it's like free therapy for a lot of people where they can donate what they want versus like going and paying somebody $350 to listen to them bitch about their lives and feel like they're not getting anywhere. And it's like, my therapist has never sang to me. I've never picked up the phone and she was like, "Wait in the water." Like, she ain't never did none of that.

• 25:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 25:59Laci Mosley?

  She don't got no band. She don't, she don't got no youth space.

• 26:02Speaker 04

  Mmm.

• 26:03Laci Mosley?

  So, people to watch your kids while, while you worship. Like, it's a vibe. I, I get the vibe.

• 26:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, but, eh, eh, eh, like, because it, like, it makes it even more sad when you take, take advantage of people who are just, who, it, it can be a really good thing for people, and then when you take advantage of them, it gives it a bad name.

• 26:21Laci Mosley?

  I always say prayer is a form of meditation. Like, there's a lot of good things that can come from the Bible if you're not cherry picking it to harm people, which is the obstacle that the Bible has. And that it was written by a bunch of dudes. And it's like, okay, yeah, we really believe all of y'all. Sure thing. And it's been interpreted to English language and other languages, so it's like, what did we lose in translation? Who was like, they were like, "He who shalt be kind will reap." Nah, I don't like that. Um, he need to take everything he can get, um.

• 26:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, I don't think Jesus spoke, spoke English.

• 26:58Laci Mosley?

  Not the English we speak. But they put it on little thin pieces of paper. So you're like, oh, this is, this is heavy text. Cause the papers, the papers are so thin.

• 27:07Speaker 04

  So many pages.

• 27:07Laci Mosley?

  Why not like scam got us thinner paper? It's too thick. It should have been thin, see-through paper. It should have been places where it was just marked out in red. Yeah, I played, I played myself.

• 27:18Speaker 04

  You live and you learn. Next one, next one.

• 27:19Laci Mosley?

  It should have been the book of Romans, the book of John. So the church website even has a financial disclaimer telling congregants that the Bethel church doesn't endorse any offers they may receive to invest their money. So here's part of it. They say, although we pray for miracles in.

• 27:41Laci Mosley?

  Put on my best church voice. Although we pray for miracles in economies and investments. Bethel church board members and leaderships and management are neither financial advisors nor investment consultants in any and no way represent ourself as such. Bethel church strongly recommends that you seek expert advice from qualified professional before considering any form of investment. Now, how, who are these expert at like advisors? Are they Jesus? Or?

• 28:24Speaker 04

  I was just so carried away by the spirit. You just, you, you transported me with that one. So, yeah, I, I, I went to another place.

• 28:30Laci Mosley?

  I'm sweating.

• 28:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, the handkerchief came out.

• 28:35Laci Mosley?

  Expert advice in his name, but not in our name. Don't try to file any claims.

• 28:45Laci Mosley?

  Really? Y'all, y'all not gonna be serious? Okay, that's fine. So in 2009, another congregant was arrested on charges of defrauding more than 20 Bethel worshippers in a Ponzi scheme that took hundreds of thousands of dollars.

• 29:00Speaker 04

  So not the first, there's a history here.

• 29:02Laci Mosley?

  Mm-hmm. This is scam church.

• 29:04Speaker 04

  Scam church, really?

• 29:05Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, scam sanctuary, okay? If we're not scamming in the sanctuary, what we doing? David Souza, and we're looking at him right there, was sentenced to 18 years in prison, starting in 2014. The same year the church added an investment disclaimer to their website. So, once David got pinched, the church was like,

• 29:26Speaker 04

  Convenient.

• 29:26Laci Mosley?

  Morning announcements, good morning, everyone's, good morning, pastor, congregation. It saddens us to say that our brother David has been taken away by the Federal Bureau of Investigations. But we know only God can invest our hearts.

• 29:45Laci Mosley?

  Bethel Church can still invest your wallets.

• 29:48Speaker 04

  All right, well, we'll let him off the hook this one time.

• 29:52Laci Mosley?

  That should have been the flag for everybody in the church. David was a former handyman and truck driver whose business slogan was, "Where business is moral and miraculous is routine."

• 30:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's always a red flag when your slogan is, "I swear I'm a good guy. I promise, I'm really, really nice."

• 30:11Laci Mosley?

  That's a great slogan. When the business is moral and the miraculous is routine, he says, "So, if I can't fix your carburetor, you gotta lean on God. One of us is gonna fix that spark plug. Me or Jesus."

• 30:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's a, that's a good out, too. It's like, if I can't fix your spark plug, it was, God willed it.

• 30:31Laci Mosley?

  God wants you to have a new car. That's all it really is. Look, I had a broken tail, like, God said, "You need to come to the light in a new Oldsmobile." Like, what? So, experts call it affinity fraud, where a scammer pitches his investment plan to members of a tight-knit community. Because everybody knows your name, it's like Cheers. Like, what if I went into Cheers and I just started pitching my, like, ideas?

• 30:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, I feel like that must have been an episode of Cheers. The, like, uh, who was it, Norm? Yeah, he was pulling some scams on them, you know, for sure.

• 31:07Laci Mosley?

  Had to be.

• 31:07Speaker 04

  Hundred percent, yeah, exactly. Yeah, he came in with, like, uh, "Yeah, there's an incredible opportunity." Actually, one time, uh, speaking of a friend of mine's dad, he was like, We were all, uh, it was like, you know, end of college and we came back and we were all like smoking weed with our friend's dad and he was like, "Guys, seriously, there's grass in Brazil that's pure gold. So just give me a little bit of an investment. I'm talking to a guy down there. It's, we're harvesting the grass and you can put it and it, it's pure gold, real gold, bullion, that you can take the grass and it, yeah, so I think that was a scam.

• 31:44Laci Mosley?

  Uh, yeah, I definitely remember the periodic table.

• 31:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. I don't think it-

• 31:49Laci Mosley?

  And, and grass and, and gold were never-

• 31:51Speaker 04

  Maybe yellow. I don't know about pure gold.

• 31:54Laci Mosley?

  On there. Um, I thought maybe he meant like, good weed grass.

• 31:58Speaker 04

  No, no, I think he meant like lawn, like in Brazil, the lawns are pure gold.

• 32:03Laci Mosley?

  Oh, so he was just gonna steal people's lawn?

• 32:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, pretty much. He knew a guy, he knew a guy.

• 32:09Laci Mosley?

  He knew a guy who could steal lawns. He was like, "Do y'all need a nice lawn? I can go to Brazil and take it from a family."

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 32:16Laci Mosley?

  What, do you want it?

• 32:17Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 32:18Laci Mosley?

  I'm just saying.

• 32:18Speaker 04

  We're all gonna be rich.

• 32:20Laci Mosley?

  So alas, the church's disclaimers were not enough to prevent Matthew, y'all know who I'm talking about, I say Matthew, Piercy, from hitting it big time at the same church with another scheme. So they, they had that one guy get pinched, um, David, and, uh, David did not beat Goliath on this one.

• 32:39Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 32:40Laci Mosley?

  But then they put up this disclaimer like, "We're not involved in any investments, like, don't call us, call Jesus." And now you would think everybody would be a bit more wary in the church of this.

• 32:53Speaker 04

  You'd think.

• 32:54Laci Mosley?

  But the church's disclaimer wasn't enough, it wasn't enough to prevent Matthew from doing its same thing. So, the getaway. When FBI agents tried to arrest Matthew in November of 2020,

• 33:08Laci Mosley?

  Matthew led them on a car chase through a residential neighborhood and onto a highway. He was being trailed by a helicopter and California Highway Patrol when this happened. So, right now, we're watching a car chase.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  Showing a suspect running from FBI agents.

• 33:27Laci Mosley?

  He had like the school floaties just in his car.

• 33:29Speaker 02

  Water escape.

• 33:30Speaker 06

  Remember this wild story that happened?

• 33:31Laci Mosley?

  He was really getting ready. He was putting his flippers on.

• 33:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's not what I expected.

• 33:34Speaker 06

  Matthew Piercey, after they tried to arrest him for an alleged $35 million Ponzi scheme.

• 33:40Laci Mosley?

  My guy was running from the cops in a wet suit.

• 33:42Speaker 06

  And continued underwater.

• 33:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, he had an oxygen tank.

• 33:46Speaker 06

  Jumped in Lake Shasta with a sea scooter and hid underwater for 25 minutes before finally surrendering. This is file video of what those sea scooters look like, and then there's Piercey. Today, a federal judge in Sacramento said Piercey was a flight risk and ordered him to stay in jail.

• 34:02Laci Mosley?

  Is he a flight risk or a dive risk?

• 34:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, flight risk, yeah, they could have, yeah.

• 34:06Laci Mosley?

  He's leaving by sea. Honestly, these police officers probably felt very dumb, but at least they stayed there. They were like, he gotta get air sometime.

• 34:15Speaker 04

  Also, I didn't really, like, I'm thinking California, I think he got, I was thinking he went into the ocean. He went into a lake, which famously.

• 34:22Laci Mosley?

  Oh, those are closed off.

• 34:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can't really.

• 34:24Laci Mosley?

  You gotta go into the ocean. You're right. Lakes end.

• 34:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, famously.

• 34:29Laci Mosley?

  How far were you gonna get?

• 34:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, just keep circling.

• 34:32Laci Mosley?

  Jump into the ocean.

• 34:33Speaker 04

  Come on, you're right there.

• 34:35Laci Mosley?

  He played. He played. So, he abandoned the vehicle and he took an object out of the trunk and entered the lake in his street clothes. The object was later identified as a Yamaha 350L underwater submersive device, AKA an undersea scooter. He spent about 20 minutes tooling around underwater in the very cold Lake Shasta when FBI agents could only see bubbles on the surface of the lake, which indicated his location. Sir. We can see where you are.

• 35:10Speaker 04

  That's what, isn't that what happens in like SpongeBob? Like when they go up and they see the, the top of the island like.

• 35:18Laci Mosley?

  He's probably, he loves SpongeBob, I bet. He jumped in the water and he was like, my life, like, no.

• 35:24Speaker 04

  They can see your bubbles.

• 35:25Laci Mosley?

  They can see your bubbles. You can't even go that deep underwater with this. What were you thinking? Honestly, so creative though, but it is a lake. Lakes are enclosed, babes.

• 35:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:37Laci Mosley?

  They could just surround you around the lake. Like you gotta come out of the lake sometime.

• 35:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's a trail. We're looking at it like it's.

• 35:43Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, go to the ocean, bro.

• 35:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 35:46Laci Mosley?

  Are you serious?

• 35:47Speaker 04

  Yeah. It, yeah, so the cops were just like, yeah, just sat on the side, just eating sandwiches.

• 35:53Laci Mosley?

  He should've stayed on dry land, cause sir, this was ridiculous. But you have to know this had to be a part of his master plan.

• 35:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, oh my God. Yeah, exactly. He was planning it the whole time. Yeah.

• 36:02Laci Mosley?

  He was like, they'll never catch me if I jump in this swimming pool.

• 36:06Speaker 04

  I've never been more certain that he said that exact thing right before he, and then, you'll never catch me.

• 36:11Laci Mosley?

  Cops don't wanna get wet.

• 36:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly.

• 36:13Laci Mosley?

  I'll just wait him out.

• 36:14Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's like, at least he thought about it.

• 36:16Laci Mosley?

  He really thought they were gonna give up and go home.

• 36:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:18Laci Mosley?

  And that was his hope.

• 36:19Speaker 04

  Yeah. It's like a, an eight-year-old's idea of what, like a, it's like a grand theft auto, like, yeah. Yeah, it's like, after an hour, they, my, my, uh.

• 36:29Laci Mosley?

  I'm sure he's right now in jail, like trying to make his Shawshank, uh, redemption exit. He's like, yeah, give me a poster of Lola Falana. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And a spoon.

• 36:40Speaker 04

  Oh, I want him, oh, if he makes an underwater escape out of the jail, I mean, that would be. Oh, I'm rooting for him now.

• 36:46Laci Mosley?

  Don't put him anywhere near water, because this man is talented.

• 36:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 36:51Laci Mosley?

  So neither the FBI or the Justice Department would tell us, was he using scuba gear? Was he, so this man is bobbing. He's coming up for air.

• 37:02Speaker 04

  He's like picking up like, whoop, whoop, can't catch me.

• 37:07Speaker 04

  He's like, oh, they're still there, gotta go back.

• 37:10Laci Mosley?

  That man was definitely bobbing up out the water, like a damn buoy.

• 37:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:17Laci Mosley?

  He was bobbing for scam apples. He was like, did they get me? Oh, they still out there. Let's go back down.

• 37:23Speaker 04

  And you know, after a while, the cops were like, please, Matthew, please just come on.

• 37:27Laci Mosley?

  We're so tired. Come on, dude. But they weren't gonna come in the water.

• 37:30Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 37:31Laci Mosley?

  If he could have stayed, if he could have stayed in the water forever, he would have got away with it.

• 37:35Speaker 04

  He was right about one thing, like the cops really didn't want to get wet.

• 37:38Laci Mosley?

  They didn't.

• 37:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, so he, part of his plan, I have to give him credit for that.

• 37:42Laci Mosley?

  He should have just gone to a larger body of water.

• 37:44Speaker 04

  Very, very true.

• 37:45Laci Mosley?

  Cause a lake and you, you just popping up and going back down, like babes, what are we doing?

• 37:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, if you have to like physically like pop out of your hiding spot.

• 37:54Laci Mosley?

  He hopped out of the getaway car and started wakeboarding. It's like, yeah, we're gonna catch you, man. You're in a lake.

• 38:01Speaker 04

  If you can see them, they can for sure see you.

• 38:04Laci Mosley?

  See you. That is the old school theater terminology.

• 38:07Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 38:07Laci Mosley?

  If they can see you. Oh, shasta lake. Yeah, he, he was, he should have jumped over the dam.

• 38:13Speaker 04

  There's a dam, yeah.

• 38:15Laci Mosley?

  What dam?

• 38:16Speaker 04

  Should have done a fugitive, like Harrison Ford just gone for it, honestly.

• 38:20Laci Mosley?

  Honestly, the dam is very steep, but like you don't got no climbing tools you could have come in with. You already got the underwater scooter. You don't got a hook and gravel you could have thrown in there with you?

• 38:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:33Speaker 04

  You got to phase one of the plan.

• 38:35Laci Mosley?

  They weren't gonna get you out of the reservoir.

• 38:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, it looks like a reservoir. Like also it looks, maybe it's just the picture we're looking at. This doesn't even look like that big of a lake, to be honest.

• 38:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 38:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:46Laci Mosley?

  My guy jumped into a pond and just kept being like, do they see me?

• 38:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:51Laci Mosley?

  Like, sir, also your scooter is red. Like, we can see it underwater, sir. You're, you're, you're doing this right under the surface. You haven't even gone to any depth.

• 39:01Speaker 04

  Oh, this guy rules.

• 39:03Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 39:45Speaker 01

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• 40:28Speaker 01

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• 40:40Laci Mosley?

  So, the scooter. The underwater sea scooter was taken as evidence.

• 40:47Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, y'all gotta investigate this for future crime, sure. The commercially available battery-powered scooter is usually used by scuba divers and costs about $500.

• 40:57Speaker 04

  Okay, affordable.

• 40:59Laci Mosley?

  Right, so it has this enclosed propeller that can pull the diver underwater at just four miles per hour, which is faster than humans can move with fins. Right. But it's not going that fast. It's four miles per hour. So also, they chase this man all over town. He hops in the water and he's just going...

• 41:23Laci Mosley?

  Do they see me?

• 41:28Laci Mosley?

  So unserious.

• 41:30Speaker 04

  It's like slower than a golf cart.

• 41:32Laci Mosley?

  Right, literally. So, let's take a look at the getaway vehicle in action. So, we're gonna see the underwater scooter.

• 41:44Laci Mosley?

  It doesn't look that loud.

• 41:46Speaker 04

  That's really slow.

• 41:47Laci Mosley?

  I'm sorry, it doesn't look that fast.

• 41:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, that is slow.

• 41:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, there's fish swimming faster than the scooter. That's a stingray that's like moving faster than them.

• 41:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:03Laci Mosley?

  At this point, I think he's just having a little fun time before he gets caught. He was like, let me just have a little fun at the lake before they take me to prison.

• 42:09Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah, they're literally going side by side, showing the machine.

• 42:13Laci Mosley?

  Like the sea turtle.

• 42:14Speaker 04

  And a turtle. Famously, a slow animal.

• 42:18Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. He was just having a goofy little time because, sir, this is so unserious.

• 42:26Laci Mosley?

  When the very cold and wet fugitive emerged from the lake, FBI agents allowed him to change into dry clothes that his wife had brought for him before escorting him to the nearest FBI field office in Sacramento. Love that his wife was like, well, he did what?

• 42:44Speaker 04

  All right.

• 42:45Laci Mosley?

  What kind of pants y'all allow in jail? No dungarees? Okay.

• 42:49Speaker 04

  She brought him like a bag lunch.

• 42:51Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, and a sack lunch. It's definitely a ham and cheese and a juicy juice. And she was like, all right, babe. Go with God. Oh, my God. That's so embarrassing. Can you imagine? She in her group chat, she's like, y'all, the authorities just told me I need to bring clean clothes because, no, because Matthew done ran away. He went on a limb to a lake.

• 43:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. And now he's all cold. I like cold and wet is just so pathetic.

• 43:17Laci Mosley?

  He literally, he got on.

• 43:22Laci Mosley?

  Sir.

• 43:22Speaker 04

  Oh, Matthew, no, no. Yeah, she must have been like, oh, Matthew, no.

• 43:27Laci Mosley?

  The second I saw him put the water skis on top of the sedan, I was like, what are you about to do?

• 43:33Speaker 04

  Oh, my God. It's such a like suburban, like, uh, whole, the whole thing is such like a stupid suburban crime.

• 43:41Laci Mosley?

  Right. It's like, she was like, he don't got no clean underwear or socks. You know what? I'm gonna do a load before I go down there because I'm not, he's still in the water looking up and playing pookaboo, peekaboo. I'm just, let me just wash some of his drawers real quick. Like.

• 43:54Speaker 04

  I'll just throw him in with our son's baseball pants.

• 43:56Laci Mosley?

  Literally. Like, how exhausted you must be.

• 44:00Speaker 04

  Oh, God.

• 44:00Laci Mosley?

  So witness tampering.

• 44:03Laci Mosley?

  Nearly nine million of what Matthew stole was returned to early investors. But most of the remaining thirty-five million is gone, which makes sense. He paid off some debt, he bought a boat. Clearly, he's got like underwater things he's passionate about, like this Yamaha scooter.

• 44:20Speaker 04

  That's crazy, you had thirty-five million and you tried to get away on a five-hundred-dollar like, like, that's what you get in like Cozumel to like go and like see the coral.

• 44:30Laci Mosley?

  Like, sir, you should have had a whole hideaway, you should have had a stash, you should have had a boat that you had, there should have been a speedboat to take you to Cuba. Like, what are you doing? Or to Mexico, that's closer to California, but like, what are you doing?

• 44:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 44:44Laci Mosley?

  So he, he had given back nine million of the thirty-five, so it's like twenty-four million left, right? I don't know how he, what he was doing with that. So he tried to keep investors and witnesses from responding to grand jury subpoenas, again mentioning Trump in his cautionary emails. Now, honestly, great strategy. Trump is letting all types of weirdos out of prison, like...

• 45:06Speaker 04

  It's plausible.

• 45:07Laci Mosley?

  Very plausible.

• 45:08Speaker 04

  He's like, I've got, I got a pardon, it's coming down the line, just, just hang tight, I'll get you your money back.

• 45:12Laci Mosley?

  You're gonna be mad when I get my pardon.

• 45:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly, yeah, right.

• 45:15Laci Mosley?

  I'm at the White House and then you're gonna be like, I wish we were friends again.

• 45:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 45:18Laci Mosley?

  I'm not bringing you to Mar-a-Lago, that's a Mar-a-Lago no.

• 45:22Speaker 04

  Yeah, when I'm scuba diving in Annapolis, yeah.

• 45:24Laci Mosley?

  Right. So he claimed that the subpoenas were a response to a letter he sent to Trump, suggesting that the only way to save the nation's banking system from financial effects of the cor- of the coronavirus pandemic was to have them invest money with him. So he said, Trump, if you want to save the banks, just invest with me, a guy.

• 45:48Speaker 04

  A random guy in Northern California.

• 45:49Laci Mosley?

  A guy.

• 45:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 45:52Laci Mosley?

  And I'll take care of the Federal Reserve, me, a guy.

• 45:55Speaker 04

  Yeah, sounds plausible, yeah, again.

• 45:56Laci Mosley?

  I'm just, Trump would be like, he's a smart guy.

• 45:58Speaker 04

  I know, exactly.

• 45:59Laci Mosley?

  He gets a lot of things.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 46:00Laci Mosley?

  He knows a lot of underwater things.

• 46:02Speaker 04

  I know a guy, the smartest guy.

• 46:03Laci Mosley?

  And he's, and he's the only guy we need.

• 46:05Speaker 04

  The fastest swimmer, swims four miles an hour.

• 46:09Laci Mosley?

  On his own, by himself, he's a fish.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, he, he's a literal fish.

• 46:13Laci Mosley?

  So that didn't work, obviously, and he was arrested anyway. After his arrest, he used coded communications from jail to direct two people to take action on a U-Haul storage locker he had rented.

• 46:27Laci Mosley?

  I don't know what take action means, but I think it's like, open it up, get my stuff I stole.

• 46:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, take, yeah, yeah, go get my stuff and hide it, yeah.

• 46:36Laci Mosley?

  I mean, U-Haul has been a pillar of the scam community for so long. Shout out to U-Haul. They're like, we don't give a fuck what you put in there. As long as you pay your thirty-five dollars a month, don't bother us. If you don't pay it, we're gonna open your shit up and I guess we'll call the feds or we'll just auction it off. U-Haul's like, if you need

• 46:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 46:53Laci Mosley?

  scam storage for you.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's the backbone of their whole business. I feel like, I mean, you tell me, I feel like this scam, maybe other than underwater escape, is hitting a lot of kind of common things that you see in scams, right? Is it prosperity, gospel church?

• 47:07Laci Mosley?

  Yes.

• 47:07Speaker 04

  Uh, U-Haul hideaway stuff, so he's kind of, uh, yeah.

• 47:12Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, he's checking out the boxes.

• 47:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, okay, cool.

• 47:14Laci Mosley?

  For sure.

• 47:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 47:16Laci Mosley?

  And when he was like, hey y'all, go to this U-Haul and see what I hauled, uh, that didn't work either. And the FBI search of the U-Haul found a wig and thirty-one thousand Swiss francs, or roughly thirty-seven thousand dollars. A wig?

• 47:35Laci Mosley?

  Was it a good wig? Was it a cheap wig? Was it Party City wig? What kind of wig is this?

• 47:40Speaker 04

  Oh, I really would love to see that, yeah. Also, yeah, I guess that was part two of the plan, is get out of the water, wash, dry off, yeah, put on a wig.

• 47:49Laci Mosley?

  And then walk away.

• 47:50Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, and then my wife would never know it was me, yeah.

• 47:54Laci Mosley?

  Yes, this is a small lake slash pond, but if I can just get to the other side and get my wig back,

• 48:00Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:01Laci Mosley?

  I'mma throw that on. And the feds are gonna be like, we need to arrest you. I'll be like, who, me? Not in my wig.

• 48:08Speaker 04

  That can't be Matthew. That, that guy has a red, uh, Black Widow wig on.

• 48:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, what do you mean?

• 48:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. That looks like Black Widow.

• 48:17Laci Mosley?

  No, I'm Billie Eilish. Look at the wig, like.

• 48:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, we're looking. And when I say, I mean.

• 48:24Laci Mosley?

  With a wig, what could he look like?

• 48:26Speaker 04

  I mean, in his defense, that is the most plain, generic, white guy I may have ever seen.

• 48:33Laci Mosley?

  I've never seen him and I'm looking at him. I've never seen him before in my life.

• 48:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, I can't, I'm actively looking at him. I don't know what he looks like. He's just a white guy. I've never seen more of a white guy in my life.

• 48:46Laci Mosley?

  But, but, but I'm curious, okay, obviously, he looks like he belongs in this financial scape for what they've stereotyped it as.

• 48:52Speaker 04

  He looks a little like me, honestly.

• 48:53Laci Mosley?

  What kind of wig? Oh my god, no. What kind of wig would your cousin wear?

• 49:00Speaker 04

  Yeah, what, for, for him?

• 49:01Laci Mosley?

  Yes, what wig would make him look like somebody else?

• 49:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, my, uh, my, yeah, my blood relative, Matthew Piercey, um, yeah, I think the only way he, I mean.

• 49:11Laci Mosley?

  What celebrity, like, what wig could make him look like?

• 49:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean.

• 49:15Laci Mosley?

  A young Rod Stewart-type wig?

• 49:17Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, he could do, yeah, maybe like a mullet. He could get a Rod Stewart. He'd have to take the suit off, but, yeah. If he, uh, yeah, if he put a mullet on, yeah, he, he's got, his natural hair is like just the classic white guy comb over, which I also have. But, uh, yeah, I think, yeah, you'd have to go mullet.

• 49:36Laci Mosley?

  You don't, you don't, you don't, your hair is like curly and stuff.

• 49:39Speaker 04

  Yeah, wavy, a little wavier. His, his is straight, but, uh, yeah, I think he'd have to go mullet. He's also in like the redneck part of California, so he could kinda, once he gets out of the pond, he might be able to blend in a little. Yeah, it's, I mean.

• 49:53Laci Mosley?

  This is all through them other top-rated lawyers. Oh, he used to be a redhead.

• 49:58Speaker 04

  Oh, interesting. So maybe he, he does have some, uh, some, um, uh, uh, what do you call it, range, you know?

• 50:04Laci Mosley?

  He has range. He's still the same face. I still have seen him before, but he's got, I see a redhead now, though.

• 50:11Speaker 04

  But that's a good point. If he went ginger, that would be a very distinct look for him. That might have been, although he does have a history of looking that way, but ginger, and maybe put on a few freckles.

• 50:23Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, maybe a bang.

• 50:25Speaker 04

  A bang, yeah, exactly. Yeah, go emo, yeah.

• 50:29Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah, what if he went emo?

• 50:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, that, yeah.

• 50:32Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. Oh, he needs some black lipstick.

• 50:34Speaker 04

  Mm.

• 50:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 50:35Speaker 04

  That would be a different person. Yeah, yeah.

• 50:38Laci Mosley?

  Oh, yeah. He should have had that in his go bag on the other side of the lake.

• 50:41Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. It would have been great if he did an under, if he had like, if he had really planned and he was able to do a change underwater and he just emerged from the lake like a, a emo Loch Ness monster, just kind of crawling out of the lake. That would have been, uh...

• 50:55Laci Mosley?

  How can I help you, bro?

• 50:56Speaker 04

  Yeah. Ugh, stop staring at me! Back off! Leave me alone!

• 51:03Laci Mosley?

  My dad hates me and I hate my dad!

• 51:05Speaker 04

  That may have been the motivation, honestly.

• 51:07Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, something. He had to try something. With that face, we, we know what you are.

• 51:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:11Laci Mosley?

  So Matthew pleaded guilty to fraud, money laundering, and witness tampering. He faces a maximum penalty of 20 years in prison for each wire fraud, mail fraud, witness tampering, and money laundering count. One of his sons created a change.org petition for Matthew's release, which currently has a whopping, y'all...

• 51:33Laci Mosley?

  Forty-three signatures.

• 51:35Speaker 04

  Woo!

• 51:36Laci Mosley?

  They don't want him free.

• 51:38Speaker 04

  Oh, poor Matthew.

• 51:39Laci Mosley?

  They said the change we want to see is cuffs. Wait, wait. They said we want you on the chain gang. We don't want you chain jang. No.

• 51:47Speaker 04

  I, I wonder, I don't, I don't know much about change. So it looks like the, what they're going for is 50. And I don't know, it would be funny if they were like looking for 10,000. I mean, this is a close personal friend of President Donald J. Trump.

• 51:59Laci Mosley?

  Damn, they know people hate him. They only went for 50 signatures. They didn't even try.

• 52:03Speaker 04

  They set the bar really low.

• 52:05Laci Mosley?

  They said, "If we can get 32 signatures, we would really appreciate it."

• 52:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, that, yeah, again, that's all your cousins. I think I might have accidentally signed this. This is my cousin, right? So, yeah.

• 52:13Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 52:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, they, uh, they set the bar really low. But hey, again, they're at like, uh, you know, 90%.

• 52:20Laci Mosley?

  And I know that wifey is like getting tossed out of all of her communities.

• 52:24Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:24Laci Mosley?

  She was probably in the Big Little Lies community.

• 52:26Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah.

• 52:27Laci Mosley?

  She know who they threw off the stairs in Monterey, and now they won't talk to her anymore. And she's like, "Y'all did a murder! Come on! My husband just did a lot of fraud!" And they're like, "No, no, no, no, no. We got away with our murder."

• 52:38Speaker 04

  Yeah, no, my father, my husband got arrested for going on one little scuba trip, all right? And he like, "What's so bad about that?"

• 52:45Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no, no.

• 52:47Speaker 04

  No.

• 52:48Laci Mosley?

  Well, shout out to Matthew and his diving abilities.

• 52:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, shout out to shout out to my cousin. We all miss you.

• 52:56Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, we miss you. We want you back. We hope you buy better wigs next time.

• 52:59Speaker 04

  Free Matthew, free Matthew.

• 53:01Laci Mosley?

  Free Matthew. We put it on a T-shirt.

• 53:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's a mural in Brooklyn going up. Yeah, free Matthew.

• 53:05Laci Mosley?

  For sure. It's definitely going up in Brooklyn.

• 53:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 53:08Laci Mosley?

  Um, but we actually have a little treat for you guys. Today, we have time for scammer of the week.

• 53:16Laci Mosley?

  So we're gonna shift gears just a little bit. We're gonna stay in California, though. So there was a Lego heist, Kyle. A 13-year-old California man was charged with multiple counts of second-degree burglary and theft after stealing nearly $25,000 worth of Legos from Target stores between August 2024 and February 2025. Now, the way the way these stores be marking up their prices, $25,000 worth of Legos, what is that, like 10 boxes?

• 53:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, Legos are not cheap.

• 53:45Laci Mosley?

  I feel like he could carry out that much in his hands.

• 53:48Speaker 04

  Yeah, genuinely. That's like one Star Wars, that's a death, that's one Death Star, I think, cost that much.

• 53:54Laci Mosley?

  Right. I don't know how much he actually stole.

• 53:56Speaker 04

  Right.

• 53:57Laci Mosley?

  So Michael Ivory Fletcher loaded up his shopping carts with the expensive building toys, disappeared into the parking lot in a master of minutes, and drove away. I mean, sometimes you go to a Target, it depends on the area, they'll have somebody who looks at your receipt. Um, but sometimes they don't. Maybe they're on break. Maybe they're at a coffee break. And I feel like I always feel very insecure leaving a store with my receipt because I'm black, so we just get targeted. So I'm always got my receipt up high, like, hey, wait, yeah.

• 54:29Speaker 04

  Home Depot especially, yeah, yeah.

• 54:31Laci Mosley?

  Right, I pay, I pay. Like, yes, it's like, put your receipts in the air, wave them like you just don't care to go to prison. Like, that's what we do. But I feel like this guy probably fit a nice mold of just walking out, and they're like, oh, he's just loading up his car, he'll be back.

• 54:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, Targets especially are very in quality from one to the other. Sometimes you get a really good one. I can speak, uh, living in, uh, Brooklyn, the Target in, um, in like downtown Brooklyn. By the Barclays Center. That's a rough one. That's a rough one.

• 55:00Laci Mosley?

  It is. There's too much foot traffic. They don't give a fuck. They're like, if you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck.

• 55:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. You said it could, it happened in California. If that happened at the downtown Brooklyn Target, I would not have been surprised either.

• 55:13Laci Mosley?

  No, no, no, no, no. All Targets aren't built the same. Target sponsored the show. So, Michael Ivory Fletcher, he loaded up his shopping carts with these expensive toys. He disappears into the parking lot. Lego thefts have become more frequent in the Los Angeles area with thieves targeting a specific kind of Lego. The miner. Okay, so is that a part of Minecraft universe? Or no? Because why they want the miners so bad?

• 55:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 55:40Laci Mosley?

  Do the children yearn for the mines?

• 55:41Speaker 04

  Truly.

• 55:42Laci Mosley?

  Are they practicing digging coal? Actually, they should be because the way our economy is going. Oh.

• 55:48Speaker 04

  Like, like.

• 55:49Laci Mosley?

  So it's not about Minecraft. It's just the children yearning for the mines.

• 55:53Speaker 04

  Truly, yeah, exactly.

• 55:54Laci Mosley?

  They already know what their future has to hold for them. They will be digging coal.

• 55:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's good to know that mining exists in the cultural landscape aside from Minecraft. There's, there is, yeah, people are interested in, in, in, in the pure mining.

• 56:09Laci Mosley?

  Look, they know, they were in elementary school and they're like, what do you want to be when you grow up? And they used to be like, an astronaut. And they're like, how about a miner?

• 56:16Speaker 04

  Miner, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 56:18Laci Mosley?

  I want to be president.

• 56:20Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 56:20Laci Mosley?

  How about? A miner.

• 56:23Speaker 04

  This has got to be some psy-op. I didn't know, yeah. Now, now I'm seeing so much of part, part of, I'm now realizing of like youth culture, like kids' culture is about mining, which that's got to be a psy-op somehow.

• 56:35Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, for sure. We're preparing them for the planet we're going to leave them with.

• 56:39Speaker 04

  A hundred percent.

• 56:40Laci Mosley?

  I want to be a stay-at-home mom. How about a mom who stays at home at night to clean but goes to work in the morning?

• 56:49Laci Mosley?

  We're taking away all of your options, guys. Just getting you prepared for it. Because like toys used to be always, it was like you have the baby doll because it's trying to get you ready to have a baby. You'd have the cooking set. It's like, we're teaching how to cook, what your fake cooking set. Now they're like, mines.

• 57:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Let's play manual labor. Who wants to play manual labor?

• 57:10Laci Mosley?

  Who wants to bust Shell rock?

• 57:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, let's, yeah, let's play Amazon warehouse.

• 57:17Laci Mosley?

  It's got robots in this edition. Oh, that makes it harder.

• 57:21Speaker 04

  Yeah, you lost your fake job in, yeah, even the kids are getting fired. You're getting, robots are taking their fake job when they play at home.

• 57:30Laci Mosley?

  Who wants to play line cook but at Waffle House?

• 57:33Speaker 04

  Let's play I Got Furloughed.

• 57:35Laci Mosley?

  Right. Whippy. Oh, no.

• 57:39Speaker 04

  It's grim.

• 57:40Laci Mosley?

  So much mining.

• 57:41Speaker 04

  It's grim.

• 57:41Laci Mosley?

  So.

• 57:44Laci Mosley?

  Oh, my goodness. Certain Lego bricks and mine figs can have a return value that rivals traditional investments, including gold. One economic study found that some unopened Lego sets on the resale market saw an average annual return of 11%. Rare special edition releases like the Millennium Falcon star from Star Wars, oh, I got it, and kits for, like, limited time can skyrocket in value in the secondary market. So it's giving Beanie Babies to me, but like, the Beanie Babies weren't employed.

• 58:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, I guess you're probably right that this guy stole them to resell them, but I really was hoping that he just stole $25,000 worth just to play with them.

• 58:29Laci Mosley?

  He just loved Legos. He wanted to be a kid again.

• 58:31Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's what, you know, I mean, I assume he got caught, but I would love to imagine that they busted down the door and he was building them. Yeah.

• 58:41Laci Mosley?

  I know. He's like in mid-mine.

• 58:45Laci Mosley?

  He's breaking the coal Lego.

• 58:48Laci Mosley?

  I almost have enough energy for the power in this neighborhood. They're like, no, sir, you need to come with us. No, but if it's a resale value thing, then that makes a lot more sense of just like he was trying to get money off of it. And at $12,000 worth of theft, you know, 11%, like, he's getting a decent, like, cut of that. I don't know if it's enough for me to do it, but I understand. Because look at these Lego collectors. Like, look how much stuff they have.

• 59:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's crazy. I mean, Legos are fun. Legos are really fun.

• 59:18Laci Mosley?

  I would say if you're a collector, you're either really rich or you're not rich.

• 59:24Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, right. Or you spent all your money on. This. I went to, uh, you ever been to the Mall of America in, uh,

• 59:31Laci Mosley?

  Yeah.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  Minneapolis? Did you see they have a giant, like, I think it's like my, I don't know if it's the world's largest, but I was just there a few weeks ago. Yeah, it's a giant dinosaur dragon thing. It's pretty cool.

• 59:43Laci Mosley?

  Oh.

• 59:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah. So I understand.

• 59:46Laci Mosley?

  We steal that next.

• 59:46Speaker 04

  Yeah, exactly. That'll be the, uh, that'll be like the national treasure of Lego heists.

• 59:51Laci Mosley?

  That's like an art heist if we steal that kind of Lego.

• 59:53Speaker 04

  Exactly. Yeah, I want someone to walk out of the Mall of America with a, you know, three-story Lego.

• 59:59Laci Mosley?

  I just don't know how I feel about mining Legos. It's like,

• 1:00:03Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:03Laci Mosley?

  I have an insurance provider Lego. I'm denying all your claims. Chuk, chuk, chuk. Like,

• 1:00:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:00:10Laci Mosley?

  Why are we telling the children?

• 1:00:12Speaker 04

  Very true. And there's something weirdly dystopian about, like, a guy who, say whatever you will about him, probably was in dire straits, was in a desperate circumstance, so he had to steal the mining worker Lego.

• 1:00:25Laci Mosley?

  It's very specific.

• 1:00:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's, I don't know, there's some irony there. Well, well, it, it's grim. It's grim.

• 1:00:32Laci Mosley?

  Yeah, I mean, I'm sad that this man got charged. He was 32, so I'm like, you're young too. Like, you really did this.

• 1:00:39Speaker 04

  You have so much ahead of you.

• 1:00:40Laci Mosley?

  He got away for so long, though. August 2024 to February 2025. I mean, that's not a bad run.

• 1:00:45Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:00:47Laci Mosley?

  But that's the thing about Target, though. Sometimes if you steal from big box stores, I'll just say big box stores, some of them will let you steal for a while so that they can build the case against you. And then they'll charge you. So you might not be getting away with all the thefts that you think you are, y'all. Like, sometimes they build a case. They lay in wait.

• 1:01:06Speaker 04

  So what you're saying is get out while you're ahead. You have to time it out. Yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:10Laci Mosley?

  You gotta stop going to Target for the rest of your life for a little bit.

• 1:01:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Lay low. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:01:16Laci Mosley?

  Lego, lay low.

• 1:01:17Speaker 04

  Lay low. Yeah, there you go. Lego.

• 1:01:19Laci Mosley?

  I love that. Well, thank you so much for being here. This was such a fun episode.

• 1:01:23Speaker 04

  Thank you for having me.

• 1:01:24Laci Mosley?

  Kyle, we always ask, where can we find you? Where do you want to be found? Anything you want to plug?

• 1:01:28Speaker 04

  Yeah, uh, I am at Kyle Gordon is great on everything. I'm a really down-to-earth and humble guy. Um, uh, also check out my new comedy album, Kyle Gordon is Wonderful. Um, it's, uh, musical comedy, genre parodies. It's a very fun listen, um, comedy songs. And, uh, yeah, if you're in New York on September 19th, I'm playing a show at Racket in New York.

• 1:01:52Laci Mosley?

  Okay.

• 1:01:53Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:01:53Laci Mosley?

  Well, Kyle, thank you so much for being here. As always, you can find us at Scam Goddess Pod if you want to see all these photos. Scam Goddess Pod on Twitter if you want to chat with me. D I V A L A C I D, Velaci on all platforms for my personal shenanigans. Get my book, Scam Goddess. It's out everywhere, audiobooks as well. And watch all of the episodes of Scam Goddess. They're all streaming now on Hulu, as well as all the episodes of Going Dutch. They're streaming on Hulu as well. Congregation, get out there and I want you to lay low and leggo.

• 1:02:28Laci Mosley?

  This has been an Earwolf Production in association with Team Coco. Scam Goddess stars and is hosted by me, Lacey Mosley, AKA Scam Goddess. Our producer is Jessica Cisneros and our audio engineer is Rich Garcia. Research for the show is conducted by Kate Doyle. Stay scheming.

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