Rain + Moving On

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• 0:00Speaker 00

  The following podcast is a Dear Media production.

• 0:04Benito Skinner?

  I'm Benito Skinner.

• 0:05Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm Mary Beth Barone.

• 0:06Benito Skinner?

  And this.

• 0:07Mary Beth Barone?

  Is.

• 0:08Benito Skinner?

  Ride.

• 0:12Benito Skinner?

  He want brand new Chanel's.

• 0:17Benito Skinner?

  Brand new Chanel. Me and pasties at your wedding. He want brand new Chanel's. Your moms.

• 0:27Mary Beth Barone?

  My commitment ceremony to myself.

• 0:30Benito Skinner?

  Wait, something big happened the other day. I am your wingman, sister.

• 0:33Mary Beth Barone?

  You're a wingman.

• 0:34Benito Skinner?

  Where do we begin? You tell me.

• 0:35Mary Beth Barone?

  I would love to start with someone DMing me saying that their Uber driver's wife's name was saved in their phone as Miss Bitch.

• 0:44Mary Beth Barone?

  Ms dot bitch.

• 0:46Benito Skinner?

  What do you think you're saved in my phone as?

• 0:48Mary Beth Barone?

  I know.

• 0:49Benito Skinner?

  By the way.

• 0:49Mary Beth Barone?

  But it's like, that's sort of a term of endearment in and of itself.

• 0:53Benito Skinner?

  If you're watching video, swans are out today.

• 0:54Mary Beth Barone?

  The swans are out. Don't tell PETA. Let the swans out.

• 0:59Benito Skinner?

  Andrew, I just kind of couldn't, I couldn't find another shirt.

• 1:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh.

• 1:05Benito Skinner?

  I'm looking out of boxes.

• 1:07Mary Beth Barone?

  I just realized the double meaning of my ride today.

• 1:09Benito Skinner?

  Excited to hear more.

• 1:10Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm not gonna tell you yet.

• 1:12Benito Skinner?

  Okay, Miss Bitch, I gotta talk about wingmanning you. So we are at a brunch after the Galaxy Brain Ball, which of course, we're gonna talk about.

• 1:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Which, can I just offer a little insight into my mood at this breakfast? I had pukes the night before.

• 1:25Benito Skinner?

  She in a mood.

• 1:26Mary Beth Barone?

  I went into a K-hole. And I pukes the night before.

• 1:29Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. So we lost our girl. I had to go because I had to pee so bad, but I couldn't, I would have to have completely stripped naked. Like, in a way that would have been kind of incredible. I would have loved to be you.

• 1:43Mary Beth Barone?

  You stayed a really long time. No one thought you left too early.

• 1:46Benito Skinner?

  Completely naked, which, I would have put the heels back on.

• 1:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Hey, brother.

• 1:49Benito Skinner?

  Hey, brother. I've seen my brother this week and I have to tell him that story again, but we're at this little brunch, Lena, at Little Ruby's. If you're at Little Ruby's, you might see us. Be courteous, be kind, and we love you.

• 2:04Benito Skinner?

  And this guy is there and he wants to pet Pinky Chihuahua Princess. And he's very sweet and is really chill. And I'm, immediately when a man talks to you, I'm already doing all kinds of little algorithmic challenges.

• 2:17Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, no, I know. You're putting it, you're putting it through the, you're modeling it.

• 2:20Benito Skinner?

  Because I couldn't do two, only one. And I'm watching this and he's petting Pinky and it's not performative, because you know how some people are performative with the way they love dogs? It's like, okay, well. What else?

• 2:32Mary Beth Barone?

  What else?

• 2:33Benito Skinner?

  Come on. Then a girl shows up and she's adorable, like couldn't be sweeter. And he gives her a hug and they're having so much fun. Then on the way out, after he and Pinky, he has like a bunch of jokes, which I was kind of like.

• 2:44Mary Beth Barone?

  They had a big moment.

• 2:45Benito Skinner?

  That was funny. I'm eating my hash brown. That was funny.

• 2:49Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm like so ill drinking ginger ale coffee.

• 2:51Benito Skinner?

  Like making you eat gluten-free toast. And I'm like, we'll get a donut after Princess.

• 2:55Mary Beth Barone?

  A few more bites.

• 2:56Benito Skinner?

  I'm telling you, when you're hungover, you gotta send it. You gotta get chicken tenders. You gotta just get in it.

• 3:03Benito Skinner?

  Andrew, are you doing close up on me here? So Andrew's our producer in New York and I asked him today if I can start saying it by name, because like, he will be like the figure now.

• 3:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Call me by my name.

• 3:14Benito Skinner?

  He will be like, he has an Armie Hammer vibe.

• 3:19Benito Skinner?

  Andrew.

• 3:20Mary Beth Barone?

  Armie Hammer being the third character of the season.

• 3:22Benito Skinner?

  No, like, fuck, we might as well have him on at this point.

• 3:25Mary Beth Barone?

  I mean, I have questions.

• 3:27Benito Skinner?

  I bet you do.

• 3:28Mary Beth Barone?

  What do you ride for?

• 3:30Benito Skinner?

  Oh, we know.

• 3:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Keep going.

• 3:38Benito Skinner?

  This is a dark season.

• 3:40Benito Skinner?

  Okay, so then on the way out, we're talking to this very nice man and his friend. His friend was a listener of Ride. We love you if you're listening now. Love you, sweet girl. You're very cute.

• 3:51Benito Skinner?

  And then I just couldn't help it to him. I said,

• 3:55Benito Skinner?

  DM her. I will always be a wingman.

• 3:59Benito Skinner?

  With the swans. And he did.

• 4:02Mary Beth Barone?

  And he did. And the rest?

• 4:05Benito Skinner?

  Come on out.

• 4:07Mary Beth Barone?

  The rest is still unwritten.

• 4:08Benito Skinner?

  Cool.

• 4:08Mary Beth Barone?

  But yeah, it's been a big weekend for us. Do you want to talk about what you did at the Galaxy Brain Ball?

• 4:13Benito Skinner?

  So obviously, you guys all know by now, I was Mary Beth Barone. Someone said, oh my God, they said Barry Meth.

• 4:22Mary Beth Barone?

  And Muscle Beth Barone.

• 4:24Benito Skinner?

  Muscle Beth Barone.

• 4:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Y'all in the comments were having me laughing.

• 4:28Benito Skinner?

  People going, God, I hate when my lats won't fit into my corset. And that killed me. I will say, so my fucking favorite person in the world, Adrienne, who made my Sabrina Carpenter costume, he did costumes on Overcompensating. He made the outfit. And I told him, I was like, snatch the fuck out of me, because obviously my girl is snatched. He did. It took three women, gumption, true grit, and a little bit of paprika to get me into that motherfucking dress. We did it by the grace of God.

• 4:59Mary Beth Barone?

  I didn't, I.

• 5:00Benito Skinner?

  Felt stunning.

• 5:02Mary Beth Barone?

  You were stunning. I, I looked at that corset and the, and the four hands that were working in conjunction with your own to get it on, and I thought, it's not gonna fit.

• 5:11Benito Skinner?

  Mind you, the whole time, I have the wig on, so it's kind of like moving back and forth.

• 5:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 5:15Benito Skinner?

  And I'm squeezing it for them. Lorna, who did makeup on Overcompensating, did my makeup. I've never felt more gorgeous. You were like a little bit like hateful to me. No, but it's okay.

• 5:30Mary Beth Barone?

  That is not true.

• 5:32Benito Skinner?

  You were like a little jealous. You know what I looked like? I looked like a not as pretty version of my sister Laura, because she's just like, oh my God, she's stunning. I felt gorgeous, so thank you.

• 5:43Mary Beth Barone?

  You really looked stunning.

• 5:44Benito Skinner?

  My butt was crazy. If you saw the butt, but.

• 5:46Mary Beth Barone?

  In your arms, my God.

• 5:48Benito Skinner?

  It had been probably, I think almost two years since I had done full drag, like with nails and everything, because last Halloween, I did Zootopia prosthetics and old man prosthetics.

• 5:57Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, there were no, there were no fake nails.

• 5:59Benito Skinner?

  Check the range on this kid.

• 6:01Mary Beth Barone?

  You're a performer, you're an artist.

• 6:02Benito Skinner?

  But I hadn't been in like full drag in so long and I definitely, it's, it's for the youth. Holy shit. I forgot, being a woman is hard. It's hard work and it's painful. And you know what's funny is when you do drag, you don't know the thing that's hurting.

• 6:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 6:19Benito Skinner?

  Until you take it off. So I had gotten these clip-on earrings, because attention to detail, some of y'all need to be professionals and you're not.

• 6:26Mary Beth Barone?

  You're not.

• 6:26Benito Skinner?

  And they, it was essentially piercing my ear. So I took them off in the cab after and I went, oh my God, it was that.

• 6:33Mary Beth Barone?

  Because you were like, once I'm in drag, I'm in drag all night. And I was like, heels on the cement floors at $3 bill, I'm concerned.

• 6:40Benito Skinner?

  The hips are hurting. I went to the, I went to get a massage last night.

• 6:44Mary Beth Barone?

  You're on the mend.

• 6:45Benito Skinner?

  She was like, whoa, you hold a lot of tension in your hips. And I said, she goes, trauma stored in the hips. I go, easy.

• 6:51Mary Beth Barone?

  All right, chill. We just met.

• 6:53Benito Skinner?

  Easy, easy mama.

• 6:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, I feel like you really committed to that. And I, you know, if we could go back, I don't, maybe you could have brought a change, but I understand you wanted to be that for the night. And then the Instagram post that came as a result, that was born from this. Born in reaction to.

• 7:09Benito Skinner?

  That was full twins. I love this shirt, by the way.

• 7:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Did you know you got this for me?

• 7:13Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, I did, because you bought one and then I had already bought one for you.

• 7:16Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. Two. Seeing double. Can we just read the captions quickly?

• 7:21Benito Skinner?

  Andrew, I see you looking at me.

• 7:23Mary Beth Barone?

  Funny.

• 7:24Benito Skinner?

  Yes. So I had been planning, just so everyone knows, I've been deep.

• 7:28Mary Beth Barone?

  The captions for like three months.

• 7:30Benito Skinner?

  So I've been deep, I thought of doing this during Overcompensating, during, while we're shooting Overcompensating, I'm always thinking of ways I can get in costume after, because I have to be such a good boy on that shoot. And my hair has to look a certain way. And it's just like, so when we're done, I go platinum and I go drag. Like I have to get things out of my system. For months, I was planning these captions and Instagram in, in the interim, came out with this thing where you can do a new caption per slide in a slideshow.

• 8:00Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, it's incredible.

• 8:00Benito Skinner?

  Harry Bradshaw, let me take you through it.

• 8:02Mary Beth Barone?

  It's a freaking three act play.

• 8:04Benito Skinner?

  I've never had more fun in my life. I was alone yesterday and you know on Sundays when you're alone and like you will cry at some point? I hadn't gotten to that point yet. So we start and my first caption is, in her shoes, which was kind of one of the first ones I had told you.

• 8:17Mary Beth Barone?

  I feel like that was the first one. And if there could only be one caption, I think you probably would have gone with that.

• 8:21Benito Skinner?

  Yes. Stopping traffic, classic me.

• 8:25Mary Beth Barone?

  I was on the sidewalk and you just blew right past me into the middle of the street.

• 8:28Benito Skinner?

  I checked the street. There wasn't a car coming for a bit and I knew I would hit it right then. And there was a fire truck lighting me up perfectly. Oh, wait, one of those tiny cars almost hit me on the way here and I thought in my head, I would have dented it.

• 8:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Totally.

• 8:42Benito Skinner?

  It, I would have, I would have left completely unscathed. Maybe a bruise, but I don't bruise. Oh, I love this one. So this is, love me like a woman. This was a really pensive moment, actually.

• 8:51Mary Beth Barone?

  In my bathroom.

• 8:52Benito Skinner?

  And it's really true, because I felt that next one. Oh my God, this was this gorgeous dancing video. You know when you just totally let yourself be in the moment? God, I love music.

• 9:01Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, I like that one a lot.

• 9:03Benito Skinner?

  I was, I was Datsy whining. I was letting the pull. That fan that was up there at $3 bill was doing things for me that a lot of people haven't.

• 9:15Mary Beth Barone?

  No, I know.

• 9:16Benito Skinner?

  One time after a workout, you asked me, I wonder who takes care of you? And I sobbed for like a month after.

• 9:22Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. That really hit you like a ton of breaks.

• 9:24Benito Skinner?

  It still hits me.

• 9:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 9:26Benito Skinner?

  This, this is one of those shots. Never let them dull your shine, promise me. You know how they said that photo of Trump getting shot was like one of the most perfectly composed images? Like it is kind of, because he's like shot and then the American flag is making kind of this like doomsday triangle. It's like, it's a perfectly set up image. So I have, it's met its match.

• 9:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Perfect in a different way.

• 9:49Benito Skinner?

  Yes.

• 9:50Mary Beth Barone?

  I love how the light's hitting your, your breasts.

• 9:52Benito Skinner?

  Never let them dull your shine, promise me.

• 9:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Promise me.

• 9:55Benito Skinner?

  And I did this all, this came out of me. It's like, I was you, but also it was like Barry, Barry Meth.

• 10:00Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 10:00Benito Skinner?

  I wish she had muted some of the music in this. So it's just a note, I would have had her mute some of the music in this TikTok.

• 10:06Mary Beth Barone?

  It's all different songs.

• 10:06Benito Skinner?

  I'm very honest, I'm Mary Beth in this instance.

• 10:08Mary Beth Barone?

  You have to give notes.

• 10:09Benito Skinner?

  Blocking out the noise and just having fun with my friends.

• 10:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, so I took that. I found you, I found you in one of the green rooms and I thought, we have to get this.

• 10:18Benito Skinner?

  Well, I had to take breaks. I was with my kids, but I, my, my bussy was sweating at a rate that was, you couldn't even imagine.

• 10:25Mary Beth Barone?

  You needed to take breaks.

• 10:26Benito Skinner?

  I felt a full drip of sweat come down, different cracks. Yeah, it was unbelievable. What's mine is mine's. Obviously, we came out to yes and at the beginning. God, there's so many. Oh my God, this with all my girls. I'm the prettiest.

• 10:41Mary Beth Barone?

  This was so, like, look how stunning that is. Are you kidding me?

• 10:45Benito Skinner?

  I know. You just don't get things like that. It looks like, it looks like an ad or something. It's like.

• 10:53Benito Skinner?

  Love it. Urban Decay. Oh my god, this.

• 10:57Mary Beth Barone?

  Getting out of the limo.

• 10:58Benito Skinner?

  Loved my party.

• 11:01Benito Skinner?

  I loved my party. People, this is why you have a podcast, you can read your Instagram captions. This was my first take. They asked if I wanted to do it again, and then we all busted out laughing because it was so clear that I nailed it. I love making art. Everybody here is a work of art.

• 11:17Mary Beth Barone?

  That's a great photo.

• 11:18Benito Skinner?

  I know. My whole body was quaking in ecstasy here. Whoa, I'm so glad it's captured on film.

• 11:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's the close up I forgot about.

• 11:28Benito Skinner?

  It was like a movie scene, seeing you through the crowd. Everyone always says this to me.

• 11:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 11:33Benito Skinner?

  Then, I was thinking about Boba T here, which is dit sometimes. By the way, your dad is with me in bed and won't stop watching Galaxy Brain on Netflix? I get so embarrassed when people watch my work in front of me. What time is your mom coming home? Just wondering.

• 11:44Mary Beth Barone?

  Just wondering.

• 11:45Benito Skinner?

  Who's this song by I need to add to my walking playlist? And it was glamorous, quirky. The photographer said I was their muse. I couldn't believe it. Okay, wait, I can.

• 11:57Mary Beth Barone?

  Fuck, she's so fully realized.

• 11:58Benito Skinner?

  Thank you for watching my special. X, MB.

• 12:01Mary Beth Barone?

  I love that one. We are cheesing.

• 12:02Benito Skinner?

  I know, it's full cheese.

• 12:05Mary Beth Barone?

  I do want to get sincere for a moment. It meant the world that you dressed up as me in drag. Benny, listen.

• 12:12Benito Skinner?

  How am I supposed to listen when people are sending shit like this to me? How am I supposed to listen?

• 12:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Who made that? Who made that? Screenshot that right now.

• 12:24Benito Skinner?

  That's the best thing I've ever seen.

• 12:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Screenshot that right now.

• 12:26Benito Skinner?

  Being Mary Beth Barone. This is unbelievable work. AI, I don't believe in unless it's for shit like that.

• 12:35Mary Beth Barone?

  For shit like that.

• 12:36Benito Skinner?

  Then it's totally worth it. See, somebody just DM'd, "Girl, shave." It's like, no, it's just never gonna happen. I did a trim, but you don't get more than that.

• 12:47Mary Beth Barone?

  I had the best time this weekend.

• 12:49Benito Skinner?

  Hey, we can tell.

• 12:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Seeing you as me was just gorgeous. I mean, it was like looking in a mirror.

• 12:53Benito Skinner?

  I only dress up as my icons.

• 12:54Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. It meant the world.

• 12:56Benito Skinner?

  Remember that.

• 12:56Mary Beth Barone?

  I will. I always do that all the time.

• 12:59Benito Skinner?

  It should be a hell of a fucking great wall.

• 13:01Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm grateful, I'm proud.

• 13:02Benito Skinner?

  No, thank you for, thank you for letting me, the fact that you were down and wanted to.

• 13:06Mary Beth Barone?

  That you were stunning, you were beautiful.

• 13:08Benito Skinner?

  Thank you, honey.

• 13:09Mary Beth Barone?

  And it's just cool, like Galaxy Brain did make the top 10 on Netflix.

• 13:13Benito Skinner?

  You know what's so crazy? I was like, I was so Lily from Princess Diaries, where I was like, are you still on that? Where she like brings up her dad dying three months ago.

• 13:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Died what, three months ago?

• 13:23Benito Skinner?

  Very me.

• 13:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 13:24Benito Skinner?

  And, uh, very me. And I, it was one of those things where you said that you wanted that, and I thought in my head, I was like, is that a thing? Like, do stand-up specials track that?

• 13:34Mary Beth Barone?

  I had let it go fully, because I was just like, it's just not gonna happen.

• 13:37Benito Skinner?

  I just couldn't, I literally saw it and I, I made an audible gasp. I just, I freaked. It was so incredible.

• 13:43Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm so happy.

• 13:44Benito Skinner?

  Elite Force?

• 13:46Mary Beth Barone?

  We, well, we leapfrogged Elite Force as of this morning.

• 13:48Benito Skinner?

  Are we at nine?

• 13:49Mary Beth Barone?

  We're at nine.

• 13:50Benito Skinner?

  Perfect number.

• 13:51Mary Beth Barone?

  And that's because of all of you guys.

• 13:52Benito Skinner?

  Nine, that icon, well, isn't there a musical with Kate Hudson called Nine?

• 13:57Mary Beth Barone?

  Sure.

• 13:58Benito Skinner?

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• 14:42Benito Skinner?

  Let's just say I'm not going as Benito Skinner, I'm going as, um, somebody else, somebody I admire a lot. She can post selfies on there if she wanted, you can buy her merch, which I heard is crap. Yeah, anything like that. So that's what's really cool about a website. I think one day I'll have my own. Head to, go to, or fucking check out Squarespace.com/ride for a free trial. And when you're ready to look, well, I'm laughing by myself. Uh, it's been a long year. And when you're ready to launch, use offer code RIDE to save 10% off your first purchase of a website or doman. The language here can be in my own words, and what's cool is that I just did that. Squarespace, thank you so much for being with us from the beginning. We love you down so much,

• 15:24Benito Skinner?

  and we all can't wait to launch our own websites or domans. Mwah. NoCD, let's fucking go. So, okay, relationships are intense. They make us care deeply, feel vulnerable, maybe even freak out a little sometimes. That's human. But some people have relationship concerns that go far beyond standard ones. Like finding another person attractive, then immediately thinking, oh my god, does this mean I don't really love my partner? Or needing constant reassurance that your relationship is right, or that you're not making the wrong choice, because you never feel sure enough. Or asking yourself the same question hundreds of times a day. Do I really love them? What if I'm wasting their time? And searching for some feeling of certainty that never comes.

• 16:06Benito Skinner?

  Many people think these sorts of thoughts and anxieties are just overthinking or commitment issues, but they can actually be signs of relationship OCD. So many people think OCD is just about cleaning, or organizing, or making your books the kind of like rainbow pattern, but that stereotype couldn't be more wrong. Real OCD is a serious condition, I haven't, hey, where distressing unwanted thoughts, called intrusive thoughts, get stuck on repeat, and you feel compelled to do certain things. Mental or physical behaviors called compulsions to try to make the anxiety stop. With relationship OCD, compulsions might look like constantly seeking reassurance, replaying memories to see if you feel a spark, or comparing your partner to others. But what's given me so much hope is learning that OCD is one of the most treatable mental health conditions when you get the right kind of specialized therapy.

• 16:52Benito Skinner?

  OCD needs ERP therapy, exposure and response prevention, which is proven to be the most effective treatment, and it did help me so much. NoCD is the world's leading OCD treatment provider, and all of their licensed therapists specialize in ERP. Therapy with NoCD is 100% virtual, covered by insurance for over 138 million Americans, and includes support between sessions, so you never have to face OCD alone. Well, you never are anyway, because you're right to here with me, in my arms around you, if you consent to that. I love you, stinky. To learn more about starting OCD therapy with NoCD, go to nocd.com and book a free call with their team. That's nocd.com. Love you.

• 17:32Mary Beth Barone?

  So I do want to touch on,

• 17:35Mary Beth Barone?

  Benny told a huge secret. Put on an entire outfit from On Running, walked across the Williamsburg Bridge, listening to songs for overcompensating.

• 17:44Benito Skinner?

  So, no one really do it like me. I'm not new to this, I'm true to this.

• 17:49Mary Beth Barone?

  So I had a friend over.

• 17:50Benito Skinner?

  You texted me after and said, imagine fumbling me.

• 17:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Of course.

• 17:54Benito Skinner?

  But you were talking about me?

• 17:55Mary Beth Barone?

  I said, imagine fumbling you. Yeah. So, we were with a friend, and something came up, and Benny just like blurted out this gigantic secret that no one knows.

• 18:06Benito Skinner?

  Well, it was in defense of, I had kind of a strong reaction to this person's name. So then our friend was like, whoa, whoa, whoa. Wait, why do you, why?

• 18:14Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 18:14Benito Skinner?

  And I was like, well, because of that. And then the room went silent.

• 18:18Mary Beth Barone?

  I look at Ben, I go.

• 18:21Benito Skinner?

  And background, I had, we were super hungover. This all happened in the same day. I've already wing manned.

• 18:26Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, honey.

• 18:27Benito Skinner?

  She's already thrown up ket, and I probably still cat up her freaking nose. Like, are you kidding? Just kidding, we didn't do it.

• 18:35Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 18:35Benito Skinner?

  But I, actually, I didn't. I would die. But I, uh, I didn't have my stuff in at Mary Beth's new apartment. I don't have my stuff there yet, which is annoying, of course.

• 18:47Mary Beth Barone?

  Haven't moved in yet.

• 18:48Benito Skinner?

  It's, I'm very Carrie, forcing her way into Big's place. You don't even have a toothbrush for me! I need a drawer! She...

• 18:59Mary Beth Barone?

  I like her, I'm sorry.

• 19:00Benito Skinner?

  Me too, I think she's incredible. I think morally perfect, my thing. I was like, I'm, I need new workout clothes anyway, and I need new running shoes, so I went to On, and I bought an entire outfit.

• 19:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 19:11Benito Skinner?

  Like a full yoga mom. It was incredible. I love all of it. On, you have my heart. So at this point, I hadn't put that on yet. I revealed the secret, and then you and the friend kind of have to talk about the secret.

• 19:23Mary Beth Barone?

  Which is not even my secret, which, but it was kind of cool, because I didn't actually do anything wrong, but then the person knew, so then we could talk about it, which was really cool.

• 19:34Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, and you also revealed yourself as someone who doesn't drop secrets, drop bombs.

• 19:38Mary Beth Barone?

  I don't.

• 19:39Benito Skinner?

  I just forgot that it was something, I want to know, I keep secrets, I just didn't. I kind of forgot that this was one.

• 19:46Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. It's really opened up the conversation, which is good, but then you basically had to leave.

• 19:52Benito Skinner?

  Which is what I wanted to do, but I was on a time crunch.

• 19:54Mary Beth Barone?

  You had to leave.

• 19:55Benito Skinner?

  So I needed to get back, because I needed a nap.

• 19:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 19:58Benito Skinner?

  And so, and I kind of, I had been there in the morning, I had a great time, already wing manned, I already kind of dropped a bomb. So I went and put all my little tight workout stuff on, came out, and I went, well, this has been awesome.

• 20:12Mary Beth Barone?

  It was so good.

• 20:13Benito Skinner?

  I was like, thank you for having me, by the way, and thank you, sorry about that. And then I had my little short shorts with the compression shorts built in.

• 20:22Mary Beth Barone?

  With the blonde hair and your compression shorts.

• 20:23Benito Skinner?

  Oh, and I pretended to take your Prada bag on the way out, and a candelabra.

• 20:26Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 20:26Benito Skinner?

  And walk across the Williamsburg Bridge like this. After dropping a secret, pretending I'm in high heels.

• 20:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Dropping a bomb.

• 20:33Benito Skinner?

  Have a good one, you guys. Enjoy the day.

• 20:36Mary Beth Barone?

  But it ended up being really fun and funny for us.

• 20:39Benito Skinner?

  I mean, I can't stop thinking about it. It was full bimbo, but sometimes the, the hair makes me do things.

• 20:46Mary Beth Barone?

  No, the hair makes you do things.

• 20:48Benito Skinner?

  I have so many alter egos right now.

• 20:49Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. I love it. It's the, the master of disguise starring Dana Carvey. Once again, I'm bringing that up, second time this season.

• 20:56Benito Skinner?

  Come home.

• 20:57Mary Beth Barone?

  So, getting into what we ride for, I just want to say off the bat, the weather today is hurting my feelings, but I'm ready for you to change my mind.

• 21:04Benito Skinner?

  I'm riding for rain.

• 21:06Mary Beth Barone?

  And I am riding for moving on.

• 21:09Benito Skinner?

  This is gonna be a doozy. Andrew? Oh, we have Andrew at attention right now.

• 21:14Mary Beth Barone?

  Andrew's in the gaming chair. Buckle up, honey.

• 21:16Benito Skinner?

  Yes, he is wearing a jockstrap. He keeps doing that.

• 21:18Mary Beth Barone?

  It's on the outside of his pants.

• 21:20Benito Skinner?

  It's very strange.

• 21:21Mary Beth Barone?

  Really confusing.

• 21:22Benito Skinner?

  So I should go first, of course.

• 21:24Mary Beth Barone?

  I think so.

• 21:25Benito Skinner?

  So, um, this morning, I look outside and it's summer rain, which is my favorite candle from Byredo. But it's, no, I'm serious. It's like you've smelled my room.

• 21:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, it smells really good.

• 21:38Benito Skinner?

  And you never want to leave. So the rain is coming down and yes, sometimes I'm like, it bums me out. But as I was walking outside, the rain was hitting me. I felt it and I was like, whoa. Sometimes we just have to let this hit us. And I thought about all the ways I love rain. Rain on me.

• 21:58Mary Beth Barone?

  The song.

• 21:58Benito Skinner?

  Come clean, Hilary Duff.

• 22:02Benito Skinner?

  Summer rain, the candle I just talked about.

• 22:05Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 22:05Benito Skinner?

  But also the other night at Bath House, when we were seeing all the kids, it started raining and it actually really freed me.

• 22:11Mary Beth Barone?

  It did?

• 22:11Benito Skinner?

  I took my shirt off, I let the rain hit me and I was like, fuck yeah.

• 22:15Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, at Bath House?

• 22:16Benito Skinner?

  This is what being alive is.

• 22:17Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, at Bath House, sorry, yeah.

• 22:18Benito Skinner?

  And I finally got to do my bit with you with, "Did you mean what you said? When you said you loved me? Did you fucking mean it?" Which I've been dying to do to anyone.

• 22:28Mary Beth Barone?

  I know.

• 22:28Benito Skinner?

  And I, again, I strongly urge. You should. I strongly urge anyone to try.

• 22:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Did you mean what you said?

• 22:33Benito Skinner?

  Did you mean what you said? When you said you loved me? And it was raining again the other day and I was trying to get into your building and thank God it has a camera. Because it shows you me and I had to do it again. Did you mean what you said?

• 22:45Mary Beth Barone?

  What you said.

• 22:46Benito Skinner?

  Stalk a person with this. Just like ruin their life with this.

• 22:49Mary Beth Barone?

  Run up on them.

• 22:50Benito Skinner?

  But, um, but there's something about the rain. It's, it's not convenient. But I think what's cool is that it's good for type A people like you to just slow it down. Let's all relax. I think it, there's probably all kinds of like scientific studies of like how it brings down moods and stuff.

• 23:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, it demands your attention. The one thing I respect about rain is it demands your attention.

• 23:10Benito Skinner?

  It makes impact.

• 23:12Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 23:12Benito Skinner?

  And sometimes if you're not listening, thunder.

• 23:14Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. Oh my God.

• 23:16Benito Skinner?

  Rain sometimes will go, "Wing, thunder." That's how I start my concert, by the way. Lightning.

• 23:26Benito Skinner?

  And the thunder.

• 23:27Mary Beth Barone?

  But are you in drag with me or no?

• 23:28Benito Skinner?

  No, no, no, no, no. Boy drag.

• 23:32Mary Beth Barone?

  You're dressed as Joe Calderon.

• 23:33Benito Skinner?

  No, literally, I'm full Calderon. And then, and then lightning strikes and thunder.

• 23:41Benito Skinner?

  No, I'm Zeus.

• 23:42Mary Beth Barone?

  And then.

• 23:43Benito Skinner?

  Señorita.

• 23:46Benito Skinner?

  And it's all my hits. This is how I start the Super Bowl.

• 23:49Mary Beth Barone?

  Your concert is just different words.

• 23:50Benito Skinner?

  Come on, Antonio.

• 23:53Benito Skinner?

  San Antonio.

• 23:57Mary Beth Barone?

  You know, I want to do the first Super Bowl halftime show that's stand up.

• 24:00Benito Skinner?

  Oh, it's gonna be so good.

• 24:02Mary Beth Barone?

  Stand up halftime show.

• 24:02Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, yeah, it's gonna be so good. Tight 10.

• 24:04Mary Beth Barone?

  It's a tight 10 and we're done.

• 24:05Benito Skinner?

  Oh my God. Lightning.

• 24:09Benito Skinner?

  Yeah. Also Tate McRae covering herself in gold at Lollapalooza is me.

• 24:14Mary Beth Barone?

  No, it is you.

• 24:14Benito Skinner?

  That's like I've never, nothing I've ever seen has been more like, that's exactly some shit I do. It was heaven. I've watched it 100 times. Also, Lollapalooza apparently is like the biggest thing in the world.

• 24:25Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, I'm seeing everyone post about it.

• 24:27Benito Skinner?

  These sets are like as big as they've ever been. Chella be damned.

• 24:31Mary Beth Barone?

  It's a real spectacle.

• 24:32Benito Skinner?

  Of course. Shy city. You, you're on notice. But, um, but yeah, so rain, I feel like let the rain fall is something I thought about a lot as a kid.

• 24:40Mary Beth Barone?

  And feel the rain on your skin.

• 24:41Benito Skinner?

  And feel the rain on your skin. Um, but.

• 24:48Benito Skinner?

  It was so stuck.

• 24:50Mary Beth Barone?

  You can't imagine what we've done in the last 72 hours.

• 24:54Benito Skinner?

  It's insane.

• 24:54Mary Beth Barone?

  Like you came over again on Saturday. I did Bust Fest, which by the way, Holmes put together.

• 25:01Benito Skinner?

  Incredible.

• 25:01Mary Beth Barone?

  And All Women's Comedy Festival, the lineup was all women. It was so much fun in Brooklyn. Holy shit, I had the best time. And, but I did that and then after we parted, yeah, after we parted ways, I had to do that. And then I, I also went to Smorgasbord for some empanadas. And then I had to go to a going away party.

• 25:18Benito Skinner?

  Emma's empanadas.

• 25:19Mary Beth Barone?

  And then I went, I got some Emma's empanadas from the food truck. Emma was there. And then you came back over and watched a movie. Like we have done so much.

• 25:27Benito Skinner?

  No, it's crazy. And yesterday, like I organized my socks and I got rid of a lot that like weren't good. Which that was crazy. But then I'm like, I'm editing this show, this overcompensating thing. I'm seeing cuts and they come in hot and fast.

• 25:41Mary Beth Barone?

  You have to be ready.

• 25:42Benito Skinner?

  I have to be ready. No, I, um, I'm running on empty, but I had so much fun the past week. I think I just met more people than I've ever met in my entire life last week.

• 25:51Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 25:51Benito Skinner?

  And I, it's kind of crazy. Like my, my brain gets all, you know, fuzzy, but.

• 25:56Mary Beth Barone?

  All fuzzy.

• 25:57Benito Skinner?

  But the rain today just felt kind of peaceful. It started the week, very cleansing.

• 26:01Mary Beth Barone?

  It's gonna be like a refresh. The grass will be nourished. Thank goodness.

• 26:05Benito Skinner?

  The air just gets a little bit more like purified, purification, of course. It's one of my favorite things.

• 26:10Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 26:11Benito Skinner?

  Um, the humidity sometimes can be a lot for my Idaho bones because I grew up in a dry climate. You could literally in the summer, jump out of the pool and you wouldn't need a towel.

• 26:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 26:19Benito Skinner?

  Like, I'm serious.

• 26:22Benito Skinner?

  So yeah, I just, I, I love rain. I also love what it can do in concert sets. Like, so Brittany had this incredible rain. I think it was Dream Within a Dream Tour, if I'm right. And I know a gay guy will tell me if I'm wrong. But, um, it's kind of that iconic thing of her where she's in like the diamond bra.

• 26:39Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 26:39Benito Skinner?

  And the rain is coming down and everyone wants to recreate it, but just no one has that Brittany sauce.

• 26:44Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, should we talk about Tom Holland on Lip Sync Battle, Umbrella?

• 26:47Benito Skinner?

  I was about to get there.

• 26:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Okay, I'm sorry.

• 26:49Benito Skinner?

  It's very late. I'm not even close to Umbrella.

• 26:54Benito Skinner?

  Um, I actually totally wasn't gonna talk about that, but I thank God. He was, that was unbelievable. That did a lot for muscles and corset.

• 27:00Mary Beth Barone?

  That changed everything.

• 27:02Benito Skinner?

  Agreed. And there's like videos a day of that being like, wait.

• 27:06Mary Beth Barone?

  That's my husband. But like that, I do think like, because actors do sometimes take themselves pretty seriously. That was like bring back joy, bring back having fun.

• 27:16Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, and Peter Kidd.

• 27:17Mary Beth Barone?

  And it's like a hypnotizing performance.

• 27:19Benito Skinner?

  He's Oliver Twist in that. Like he's giving The Impossible.

• 27:25Benito Skinner?

  The movie The Impossible is just crazy, by the way.

• 27:28Mary Beth Barone?

  It's really good.

• 27:29Benito Skinner?

  But every time I'm on a beach, I think about it. That's what I mean.

• 27:32Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, wow, that's such a great tie in. What a fabulous film.

• 27:34Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, that's, we don't like that kind of rain.

• 27:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Really sad, but also really, really well done.

• 27:39Benito Skinner?

  It's just unbelievable. It is The Impossible.

• 27:41Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 27:42Benito Skinner?

  When I think about the ending. Then Charlie, she adds rain to track 10 in this last tour that she did. And I think she's still doing it.

• 27:49Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 27:49Benito Skinner?

  It's one of those things as a, as a gay man, you watch and you're like, you're so in awe of it and you love it. And you also just want to do it desperately.

• 27:55Mary Beth Barone?

  It's true art.

• 27:56Benito Skinner?

  So getting to have that rain follow me at Bath House and I run up to you and say, "Did you mean what you said?" There's just something about it. I think we have to keep our talk about rain pure. I think we love to shit on her. I, I think there's something beautiful. I love this new switch. Whoever came up with this, I think that's so cool. That like if it rains on your wedding day, it's good luck. That's like not a thing, but I guess like it's cool that it is now. Like I didn't know about that as a kid, but then now people say that. And I'm like whoever kind of did the, the PR there. Eight, that's incredible. Because like that has to feel good. They're like, yeah, it's. It's good luck.

• 28:33Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 28:34Benito Skinner?

  Let's just learn how to dance in the rain with our girls. I know that, you know, Barry Mess loves the rain. There's something about it very freeing to her.

• 28:42Mary Beth Barone?

  She's getting her hair wet.

• 28:43Benito Skinner?

  Of course. Duddy is not a rain girl. She thinks that a man should always have his umbrella above her. And be very courteous. It has to be a Burberry one. She likes labels and she always says that on the first date. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But she would, she doesn't like that. That's actually really disrespectful. She likes labels.

• 29:03Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, then she's a label her. That's a compliment.

• 29:07Benito Skinner?

  Someone said I was. I laughed, of course. They're right. Yeah, of course. Well, of course. Andrew is.

• 29:13Mary Beth Barone?

  Andrew is. I can tell.

• 29:14Benito Skinner?

  Andrew, what are you watching over there? Oh, I also highly recommend listening to rain sounds, even when it's not raining.

• 29:19Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, yeah.

• 29:20Benito Skinner?

  I just love the whole thing. Also, you know, like rain on me obviously meant the world when it came out to me during COVID. That really got me through dark times.

• 29:27Mary Beth Barone?

  And isn't there, Ariana has a song called Raindrops?

• 29:30Benito Skinner?

  Yes. Oh my God, yes.

• 29:33Mary Beth Barone?

  Sorry. Speaking of water.

• 29:36Benito Skinner?

  Of course. But let yourself be purified by the rain and just enjoy it. That's why my hair looks kind of strange today.

• 29:41Mary Beth Barone?

  And also drive safe. The road is the slipperiest right after it starts raining.

• 29:46Benito Skinner?

  Well, you know, I hydroplaned once in a Kia.

• 29:49Mary Beth Barone?

  You were driving?

• 29:50Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 29:51Mary Beth Barone?

  This is why I'm gonna, I've actually been working with City Hall to get your license revoked. Did you know that?

• 29:55Benito Skinner?

  This was as, I was 16. I was 16. And I, I was taking a corner too fast and it just, yeah, it started. And when you hydroplane, you have to go opposite.

• 30:06Mary Beth Barone?

  After a Heineken, probably.

• 30:07Benito Skinner?

  God, literally.

• 30:08Mary Beth Barone?

  So fucking irresponsible.

• 30:10Benito Skinner?

  The first man in history to roll a Kia. They're like, it's like impossible too.

• 30:12Mary Beth Barone?

  They're like, that's never been done. We didn't know that was actually physically possible.

• 30:15Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. It was, it was a tricky car.

• 30:18Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, today I'm gonna be riding for Moving On.

• 30:20Benito Skinner?

  Was that good or horrible?

• 30:21Mary Beth Barone?

  I loved it. Personally, I loved it. I think it's really funny.

• 30:25Benito Skinner?

  I think rain is cool.

• 30:26Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 30:27Benito Skinner?

  We're keeping all this.

• 30:28Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, yeah. Now, you know, it's time for me to talk about Hill House Home. Hill House's summer collection just dropped. New prints, new styles, and it might be their best yet. If you don't know Hill House, they're the brand behind the viral nap dress. One with the signature smocking that somehow makes everyone look good and feel amazing. It's been spotted on Taylor Swift, Olivia Rodrigo, Anne Hathaway, the list goes on. That's right, Taylor Swift and Olivia Rodrigo. It has bridged that gap, much like Gracie Abrams. What makes Hill House different is how wearable everything is. Same dress for a coffee run, dinner out, a wedding, the beach. You never have to overthink it. And it's not just the dresses. The swim styles and tunics are perfect for your next vacation or a day at the pool.

• 31:12Mary Beth Barone?

  I guess I'd be remiss if I didn't mention that my sheets and bedding are from Hill House Home. So you can go to hillhousehome.com and see new arrivals, or you can buy the literal same sheets that I have that I share with my dog Pinky. And every time I post, people are like, wait, where are those sheets from? So visit hillhousehome.com and use code RIDE at checkout for 20% off your first purchase of $150 or more. That's hillhousehome.com and use code RIDE at checkout for 20% off your first purchase of $150 or more. I'm actually going to Hill House Home right now. Home.com, because I want to look at the viral nap dress. I just feel like that's something I might need for the summer. So let's look at dresses.

• 31:56Mary Beth Barone?

  Okay, visit hillhousehome.com and use code RIDE at checkout for 20% off your first purchase of $150 or more. Hey, you guys, guys being gender neutral, of course. I'm just here with Pinky right now and my blankie's in my lap. The AC is blasting. I wanted to remind you guys really quick that summer is the season of ponytails, messy buns, and braids. When it's hot outside, you need your hair off your neck. And if you used to feel self-conscious about how your hair looked in these styles, you should try Nutriful, because you will notice a real difference in how you feel about your hair. Instead of worrying about it, you can pull it back and get on with your day, knowing it still looks healthy, full, and beautiful. Nutriful is the number one dermatologist recommended hair growth supplement brand,

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• 33:23Mary Beth Barone?

  And for a limited time, Nutriful is offering our listeners $10 off your first month's subscription and free shipping when you visit nutrafol.com and enter promo code RIDE. That's nutrafol.com, spelled N-U-T-R-A-F-O-L dot com, promo code RIDE. Moving on is such an important part of life.

• 33:41Benito Skinner?

  I can't believe you're bringing moving on to the pod.

• 33:44Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, sometimes you have to just acknowledge that you've moved on from certain things. And within moving on, there is just moving.

• 33:50Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 33:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Which is something that we've both done recently.

• 33:52Benito Skinner?

  I know.

• 33:52Mary Beth Barone?

  That has felt, speaking of cleansing, I mean, talk about hitting a reset button. I'm not letting any straight guys in my new apartment, except if it's one of my brothers or Kai. And you. And so I just, I'm going to give it time. I want to settle in there. I'm like, it's new beginnings, it feels fresh. But like, when you can see someone that's part of your past and truly know that you don't give a fuck about them anymore, and you can just let it go.

• 34:18Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 34:18Mary Beth Barone?

  God, it's like such a powerful feeling, and it does take time. And sometimes people who are in your life for a really short amount can have such a lasting impact. And then finally, you can say like, I just don't fuck with you anymore and I don't care. I don't care what you're doing. I'm not going to ask my, our mutual friend about you, like, you're so in my past. Like, that's just cool.

• 34:39Benito Skinner?

  No, I mean, it's incredible. Imagine being at a dinner in LA and you look around and you think, I don't know if anyone here would care if I died. And then you moved to New York. So I did that.

• 34:48Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 34:49Benito Skinner?

  And that can be so cool.

• 34:50Mary Beth Barone?

  And here, can I just say, a lot of people would care if you died.

• 34:53Benito Skinner?

  Hey, and thank you for saying that. And thank you. Oh my God, moving on. You know what's so powerful about moving on? You can do it in every instance, which I think is so cool that you've brought this to the red table today.

• 35:04Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 35:05Benito Skinner?

  To move on from some of the clothes you have, to the places you live, to, of course, like your relationships with friends, family.

• 35:16Mary Beth Barone?

  Some of your heroes you have to move on from. They do things that you don't like.

• 35:20Benito Skinner?

  And you know what's great? Something about the moving on, then also it's like, it's blue more planet.

• 35:24Mary Beth Barone?

  It's blue more planet.

• 35:26Benito Skinner?

  It's like, you never know. It's like, if you do that, then something maybe can come back. Those relationships can return.

• 35:32Mary Beth Barone?

  I went to Milan with my stylist, Kat Tepaldos, absolute genius.

• 35:35Benito Skinner?

  Could you be more unrelatable? I mean, God, you're so up your own ass.

• 35:43Benito Skinner?

  I won't do this pod anymore.

• 35:44Mary Beth Barone?

  So I went to Milan with my stylist.

• 35:46Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 35:46Mary Beth Barone?

  And her gay best friend lives there.

• 35:49Benito Skinner?

  Have been to Milan with my stylist.

• 35:50Mary Beth Barone?

  Of course. Yeah. So her gay best friend lives in Milan. We all got drinks. And he said something that I have, it's been reverberating in my head. We were talking about career stuff and he said, go where you are liked. Go where you're liked. Go where people want you, where they crave you, where they're seeking you out.

• 36:08Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 36:08Mary Beth Barone?

  You don't have to spend energy trying to go places that you're not liked. And I was like, damn, like gay guys who had to come out in the 90s and ultimately like, are in that sort of generation, like post, like full-blown AIDS crisis, but pre everyone being queer.

• 36:24Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 36:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Like, they have had, you know, they've been through stuff.

• 36:28Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 36:28Mary Beth Barone?

  And I just listened and I thought, that is so profound. And like, part of moving on is just saying, like, I have nothing to prove to people who don't care about me, don't respect me, don't want what's best for me. So I just have to move on from that.

• 36:40Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, pack your bags.

• 36:42Mary Beth Barone?

  And move into a new place.

• 36:43Benito Skinner?

  And go to Orlando.

• 36:45Mary Beth Barone?

  Go to Orlando, Florida.

• 36:49Benito Skinner?

  God, you make me laugh. Yeah, sometimes, you know what? Oh, God, but, uh, the scorpion on me, it's like you hold it so deeply.

• 36:58Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, for sure.

• 36:59Benito Skinner?

  And it's like, so, there's so much pain, but I do think.

• 37:01Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, there's so much rejection and it's really hard. Because then I want to, I'm like, well, I hate you, I don't fuck with you, I'll never speak to you again. But it's like.

• 37:07Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 37:08Mary Beth Barone?

  Or I do part, I do want to let some of the negativity go. It's really hard. I'm a Gemini, it's not easy.

• 37:12Benito Skinner?

  But that's also moving on too, and kind of like letting that fall off of you. It's, it's hard. I also think it's like, oh my God, as far as like reading comments or those things, I have to move on from it. I really, I don't go near Twitter. I don't like, I, or X, whatever. But I, I really try to not, because actually, you know what? I was, I was finding that it was, when I was in US drag, I actually had this huge moment.

• 37:34Mary Beth Barone?

  Whoa.

• 37:35Benito Skinner?

  Because I was like, I kind of stopped doing this because I, I thought that people maybe wouldn't take me seriously as an actor. So I was like, okay, I won't make sketches anymore. And doing it, I was just having so much fun. And I was like, God, I'm thinking so, I used to think so much about like, how, how everything was being perceived and all these things. And I do think I'm moving on from that, because I'm like, I just want to do what I want to do in the moment and enjoy it. But it is so hard when you're getting so much feedback all the time. And like, you don't want to see the comment, you want to see what I just saw where it's a clone of you as Mary Beth 50 times over. But then naturally, there will be comments that are like, like, oh my God, this morning, this, I, I was on the cover of Esquire Singapore.

• 38:17Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh, and that's relatable.

• 38:18Benito Skinner?

  Everyone's freaking the fuck out right now. Yeah, it is.

• 38:22Mary Beth Barone?

  Who among us has been on the cover of Esquire Singapore?

• 38:25Benito Skinner?

  Do you know who was on the last cover?

• 38:26Mary Beth Barone?

  Oh.

• 38:27Benito Skinner?

  Sebastian Stan. There are easier ways.

• 38:30Mary Beth Barone?

  You know what? I want to get him on the pod.

• 38:32Benito Skinner?

  I agree.

• 38:32Mary Beth Barone?

  To talk about Nutriful and whatever else he wants to talk about.

• 38:35Benito Skinner?

  He would love this place, right here, right under the D.

• 38:38Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm going to, I'm going to send a text after this.

• 38:40Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 38:40Mary Beth Barone?

  But go on. Not to him.

• 38:42Benito Skinner?

  A text? Oh, sure. You got the direct line, baby? But someone commented, we can all agree that overcompensating sucks, right? And I was like, whoa, it just decided to hurt my feelings this morning. I looked at his page, this man sold the ugliest art I've ever seen in my life. He's an art broker.

• 39:00Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm surprised.

• 39:01Benito Skinner?

  And I just thought, there's no, how could I let what he thinks?

• 39:06Mary Beth Barone?

  Affect your day.

• 39:07Benito Skinner?

  In any way affect me or the work I want to put out. But it's like, you just, God, you just, it's like so much, and this is for everyone. It's like when I said that thing where I was like, I felt like our jobs specifically have that, but then someone spray painted Mrs. Skinner is a bitch when my mom was a PE teacher. So, the first tweet. So I know that everyone's doing this, but, oh God, I'm, I'm applying moving on to that.

• 39:31Mary Beth Barone?

  I think you should.

• 39:32Benito Skinner?

  And I don't know if that totally works, but I'm forcing it.

• 39:33Mary Beth Barone?

  It totally does. And I also think like, it's moving on too, from like, some of the expectations that we have for ourselves, because I actually think like, we are navigating our careers. You look at people around you and you're like, oh, I, I watched what they did that worked for them. I watched what this other person did that worked for them. And I'm like, we're kind of doing it our own way. And I like that. It's like, maybe, yeah.

• 39:52Benito Skinner?

  It's got some stank on it.

• 39:53Mary Beth Barone?

  It has some stank. We're putting our, our own little nasty spin on things. And I just think like, that's the most fun way of doing it. It's like, I, we can't do exactly what someone else did, because that will just not work for us. And it's like, yeah, you're, you're the star of a TV show and you're going to do drag as your best friend, who you also host a podcast with.

• 40:09Benito Skinner?

  I'm just having fun. And I think it's almost moving on from being so rigid and being like trapped in my own thoughts. And, oh my God, you just have to like, keep going forward and, and do what's true to you in that moment.

• 40:22Mary Beth Barone?

  And you can't rush it. Unfortunately, you cannot rush it.

• 40:25Benito Skinner?

  I had that thought last night. Because also, what I forgot to talk about rain is, you can make your own rain, and that's sitting in your shower and crying. And it's amazing. It's one of the best things you can do.

• 40:33Mary Beth Barone?

  I know. Well, I did, I did tweet once that I love sitting down in the shower and pretending I'm in an indie movie. That tweet's gone because I deleted Twitter. But yeah, that's the thought that I had.

• 40:41Benito Skinner?

  Moving on.

• 40:42Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah, and, and moving on.

• 40:44Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 40:44Mary Beth Barone?

  We're moving on from, we moved on from Twitter. So you made rain, you made rain in your place.

• 40:48Benito Skinner?

  I'm like, in the process of like renovating and, and fixing up my apartment. And it's not going to happen at once. And you're not going to just arrive. But I think there's also this thing of like, the new era of people, you know, where everyone has to have a new era. And I think there's almost like a pressure that's put on it, because you just feel like, okay, there needs to be some like new version of you all the time. But maybe it's just like what's true to you in that moment. Like, I don't think my blonde hair is like a new era per se, as much as it just feels like a continuation of me trying to find and experimenting with things and.

• 41:21Mary Beth Barone?

  It's a continuation of the self.

• 41:23Benito Skinner?

  Of the self, you know?

• 41:24Mary Beth Barone?

  And that's what my book will be called. A continuation of the self.

• 41:28Benito Skinner?

  You know mine. I used to do, wait, you know that I did this on set?

• 41:31Mary Beth Barone?

  What?

• 41:32Benito Skinner?

  God, you know what's funny? We just don't share that many scenes together.

• 41:35Mary Beth Barone?

  And guess whose fault is that? The creator of the show.

• 41:38Benito Skinner?

  Baby love!

• 41:41Mary Beth Barone?

  I will leave right now.

• 41:42Benito Skinner?

  You will not.

• 41:43Mary Beth Barone?

  I will walk out.

• 41:44Benito Skinner?

  You will not talk to your.

• 41:44Mary Beth Barone?

  I will leave.

• 41:46Benito Skinner?

  I know you've got this, top 10, even top nine of fucking Netflix special. And you think you can talk to your love like this?

• 41:52Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, I'm gonna be.

• 41:53Benito Skinner?

  I will move on.

• 41:54Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm gonna be a total nightmare.

• 41:55Benito Skinner?

  Good.

• 41:56Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah.

• 41:56Benito Skinner?

  Good.

• 41:57Mary Beth Barone?

  Yeah. Watch out.

• 41:59Benito Skinner?

  I'm your gene boy.

• 42:00Mary Beth Barone?

  Watch your back.

• 42:02Benito Skinner?

  But.

• 42:03Mary Beth Barone?

  What was your bid about your memoir?

• 42:05Benito Skinner?

  Well, I would just tell everybody the names of their memoir. Like it was my favorite thing to do. Mine's been there, done that, B E N.

• 42:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Hmm, wow.

• 42:13Benito Skinner?

  And then Scott King, our fabulous showrunner. His was Kingdom Come, Stories From Set.

• 42:20Mary Beth Barone?

  I would read that.

• 42:21Benito Skinner?

  I know me too. I mean, his would be fabulous. There's so many stories.

• 42:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, should we begin to ride or die?

• 42:26Benito Skinner?

  Yes.

• 42:28Mary Beth Barone?

  I ride for rain. I don't always love it. Sometimes it brings me down. It brings me down.

• 42:32Benito Skinner?

  You have to ride for it or it'll, it'll teach you a lesson.

• 42:34Mary Beth Barone?

  Totally. And I think like getting wet when I don't want to be is just not.

• 42:38Benito Skinner?

  It's almost like what I should have probably wrote, wrote for today, but I was in the moment and rain came to me. The concept of it'll pass.

• 42:45Mary Beth Barone?

  I like when I'm on vacation, summer tropical and it rains for five minutes a day and it's warm rain and you could stay on the beach if it's not thundering or lightning. And it's just like you're letting the weather kind of do its thing. Like you are in the tropics. You're at the mercy of the weather, but it's just that little pocket of time.

• 42:59Benito Skinner?

  Hawaii rain.

• 42:59Mary Beth Barone?

  And you know it's gonna pass. It's a summer squall, if you will.

• 43:02Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 43:03Mary Beth Barone?

  So I ride for rain. I wish it wasn't raining today, but I'm really, really grateful that it only rained on Monday a little bit and it did not rain on Friday because rain keeps people inside.

• 43:11Benito Skinner?

  Agreed, but guess what I got to do today?

• 43:13Mary Beth Barone?

  What?

• 43:14Benito Skinner?

  Walk to the studio soaking wet. ACAB tag on a bus stop sign.

• 43:19Mary Beth Barone?

  On a bus stop sign.

• 43:21Benito Skinner?

  Charlie calls from a hotel bed, hungover on Tokyo time.

• 43:24Mary Beth Barone?

  Tokyo time?

• 43:25Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 43:26Mary Beth Barone?

  You ride for.

• 43:27Benito Skinner?

  Esquire Singapore. Of course I ride for moving on. I mean, whoa.

• 43:32Mary Beth Barone?

  I mean, whoa, you kind of wrote the book on it, King.

• 43:34Benito Skinner?

  Chill, mother.

• 43:36Mary Beth Barone?

  Child.

• 43:36Benito Skinner?

  Although it's funny, I both did write the book on it and didn't because I have a whole TV show about my past.

• 43:41Mary Beth Barone?

  About not.

• 43:42Benito Skinner?

  But I think in a way that's almost how I'm, how I'm processing all of it so that I can move on. And I think that that's gonna be great for me.

• 43:49Mary Beth Barone?

  Totally unrelated when we were, session is in session at [BLEEP] Fest. We were doing the press line and there was an interviewer from Chile and I completely dissociated and I was thinking about how Chile is spelled the same as child. And I almost brought it up, but I didn't.

• 44:03Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, you should have.

• 44:04Mary Beth Barone?

  And I'm glad I didn't because it would have been hard to explain.

• 44:06Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 44:06Mary Beth Barone?

  But like it was something I.

• 44:08Benito Skinner?

  Especially at a [BLEEP] Fest.

• 44:09Mary Beth Barone?

  Right.

• 44:09Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 44:10Mary Beth Barone?

  Next to like the cast of Off Campus.

• 44:12Benito Skinner?

  Yeah.

• 44:13Mary Beth Barone?

  And I'm like making connections like that.

• 44:15Benito Skinner?

  Totally.

• 44:16Mary Beth Barone?

  Live on camera, by the way.

• 44:17Benito Skinner?

  Yeah, yeah, live, fully.

• 44:18Mary Beth Barone?

  That's something I thought about for sure.

• 44:20Benito Skinner?

  I love when they ask you a question and you are like on camera at that moment. And if you don't have the answer, it's kind of like, well, what the fuck now?

• 44:27Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, they asked us, who are our South American crushes? And I thought they just meant like Latinx. So I just started naming like Rosalia, Bad Bunny, et cetera. And you were like, so that's Spain, Puerto Rico.

• 44:39Mary Beth Barone?

  I got confused.

• 44:40Benito Skinner?

  No, and, and that's so fair and so honest, honey.

• 44:44Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm being more honest this season. I'm flawed and I'm free.

• 44:48Benito Skinner?

  Exactly.

• 44:49Mary Beth Barone?

  I'm moving on. Didn't you mean what you said?

• 44:53Benito Skinner?

  Me walking in after dropping that truth bomb. Oops. Well, this has been awesome, a little awkward in spots, but um, talk it out, I guess. I have to go walk the bridge in my new seafoam green tank top. I'm sorry I wore a tank today if it was so distracting.

• 45:11Mary Beth Barone?

  Why are you sorry?

• 45:12Benito Skinner?

  Well, it was probably distracting, my love.

• 45:14Mary Beth Barone?

  Well, and you forgot to hit record, but other than that.

• 45:17Benito Skinner?

  He goes, shit, aw, daddy made a boo boo. That's how he talks to us.

• 45:24Mary Beth Barone?

  And we don't think that's weird.

• 45:25Benito Skinner?

  Did you mean what you said? When you said you loved me? Tell me now or I'll rock in front of that fucking car in the rain.

• 45:36Benito Skinner?

  You all.

• 45:37Mary Beth Barone?

  Okay, bye.

• 45:38Benito Skinner?

  Bye.