Midterm Countdown, Haley Stevens November Surprise, & Florida Plane Crash Near Mar-A-Lago | PBD #883

Patrick Bet-David and the PBD Podcast crew break down the Haley Stevens controversy, a deadly Learjet crash in Florida that killed nine people, and the final countdown to the 2026 midterm elections. With Trump, Republicans, and Democrats battling for control of Congress, election integrity concerns and massive campaign spending take center stage. ——— . 👞 Get the NEW Billionaire Suede Loafer: https://bit.ly/4ym5oRA . 🇰 GET STARTED ON KALSHI WITH $10 ON US! SIGN UP HERE: http://kalshi.com/pbd . 👕 SHOP THE ICON COLLECTION: https://bit.ly/3TuUU3x . 👞 GET THE FLB1's: https://bit.ly/4mC4uf6 . Ⓜ️ CONNECT ON MINNECT: https://bit.ly/4kSVkso . Ⓜ️ PBD PODCAST CIRCLES: https://bit.ly/4mAWQAP . 👔 BET-DAVID CONSULTING: https://bit.ly/4lzQph2 . 🥃 BOARDROOM CIGAR LOUNGE: https://bit.ly/4pzLEXj . SUBSCRIBE TO: @VALUETAINMENT @BetDavidConsulting @vtgenz @ValuetainmentComedy . ABOUT US: Patrick Bet-David is the founder and CEO of Valuetainment Media. He is the author of the #1 Wall Street Journal Bestseller “Your Next Five Moves” (Simon & Schuster) and a father of 2 boys and 2 girls. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida. He currently resides in Ft. Lauderdale, Florida.

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• 0:13Speaker 00

  My handshake is better than anything I ever signs, right here.

• 0:17Patrick Bet-David?

  You are a one of one?

• 0:18Speaker 02

  My son's right about that.

• 0:19Speaker 00

  I don't think I've ever said this before.

• 0:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Alright, okay, so a couple of things. Number one, congratulations to Kimi Antonelli for being the youngest Formula One champion, and potentially Abdul Sayed for being the first Muslim senator, if we end up winning in Michigan. You know that, right? That would be a record for them. So it's for Muslims, it's a massive thing to be celebrating about if that does end up becoming a reality. That's where we are right now, folks. You're in the heat of... Everything's going crazy. They typically talk about October surprises. Right now, we have November surprises.

• 0:56Tom Ellsworth?

  I had one yesterday.

• 0:56Patrick Bet-David?

  This lady Stevens from Michigan, I'm sure you saw this clip here, comes out and says, "Not only am I taking back my, what do you call it, endorsement, but on top of that, I am endorsing Mike Rogers." The left loses their mind. I don't know how much of it's gonna flip. Kelsey's not moved that much. There's been a little bit of movement, nothing crazy. Even as of right now, it looks like Abdul is gonna win, and it's gonna be a massive celebrations for Muslims around the country who wanna see somebody become the first Muslim senator in America. If that's you, you know, I'm sure you guys are gonna be celebrating in Michigan. If it's not you, their campaign is so funny what they're doing. And if you watch them closely, the campaign is all about anti-Israel. Have you seen this? It's a purely

• 1:39Patrick Bet-David?

  a anti-Israel campaign, where it actually works, if you think about it. It gets people that are like, "Oh my God, it's all Bibi's fault. I'm willing to support Abdul because I don't want them to win." So there's a little bit of credit you gotta give to them for the way they're campaigning, but I hope America's ready. If this thing goes the way it is, Abdul's gonna be your first Muslim senator. And you know what's the one thing? When I had Raymond Ibrahim on, who wrote the book about the Crusades and all the stuff that happened, he says they come, Jack Hibbs, the pastor, said they come in three different ways. First, they come and tell you, "We're a peaceful religion. Let us in," which is what Henry Ford did in Michigan, when he let the first Muslims in because labor was cheaper when he hired people from Syria, Lebanon, all those places. Then he accidentally, he

• 2:24Patrick Bet-David?

  brought an Imam in, they built the first mosque, thanks to Henry Ford, who started Ford, and I love Ford, but thanks to Henry Ford, he created Michigan into what it is today. And then they move up with P. R-P. P is political power. They go in and get some political power, and then they use the military against you. It's a strategy they've used. Not sure if it's gonna happen in America or not, but some people are paranoid about it. Tucker puts out a tweet yesterday that gets around 50 million views. Everybody's talking about, is there gonna be a nuclear war? This has been a topic of discussion, so he put it at a time, which is perfect timing tweet, we'll address that. Some people are worried that there may be a nuclear bomb being dropped. Why are we teaching military personnel on how to dig graves, six-foot graves? We haven't done this in Korean War. Why are people around

• 3:09Patrick Bet-David?

  the country going around in other countries around the world, "Hey, be careful in case something were to happen?" We'll definitely talk about that as well. And then you have this jet, what is it, a Lear Jet 60? Is that what a Lear 60?

• 3:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, Lear 60 holds eight to 10.

• 3:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, eight to 10. Nine died in this free-for-all, coming down 90 minutes after the president left Palm Beach. It hit right outside of Mar-a-Lago that it took place, and a lot of people are saying that's what it was. Vinny, the audio, I don't know if you've listened to the audio recording, very, very difficult to listen to, but that's what happened there. We'll address that. AI wipes out, say that again?

• 3:48Speaker 04

  Female pilot.

• 3:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Female pilot is what it was. It was a female pilot. It's a fact. He's sharing the facts with, if you don't know who he is, Andrew Wilson. You may recognize the name. AI wipes out $1 trillion in tech valuation. Goldman Sachs says there's something going on there. We'll talk about that. The Red Baron worker gets $400,000 after a cruel prank. You gotta see this video. We've been trying to show this video for a week. We will today. Iran exposes vulnerabilities at 26 military locations. Poland may have a constitutional crisis in Poland that's taking place to the point where Dominique had to come out and say a few words. And it looks like the globalists are trying to take control of Poland. They're failing. I think the people are gonna stand up. We'll see what happened there. By the

• 4:31Patrick Bet-David?

  way, Dominique's gonna be there tomorrow night with us as well, live in the flesh at 5990 when we do the election night. Another story came out saying, "Do young Americans need rich parents to buy a house?" Interesting story. Paul Pierce, basketball player, career earnings $200 million. He's allegedly broke and doesn't have any money to pay for anything. Can you imagine? You make $200 million, and you got nothing left for yourself, and you're trying to figure out how to pay your bills?

• 4:58Speaker 02

  Baby mama, you gotta pay the baby momma.

• 5:00Patrick Bet-David?

  After $200 million. People called me and they said, "Hey, Pat, you got your facts right about the Mickey Mantle card trading for $50 million." Really? I got my facts right? And I'll give you a little bit of thought on that. Not too long, but I'll give you a minute for you to think about what happened with the Mickey Mantle $50 million sale that people are saying the facts were wrong. I'll let you know in a minute here what happened. There, Toronto home invasion, I don't know if you guys saw this or not, a house down the street from Drake. Guy comes in with a hammer, starts hitting the kids, hitting the parents. You guys see this or no? Down the street from Drake's home in a very exclusive community, but guess what you don't have in Toronto?

• 5:36Tom Ellsworth?

  Guns.

• 5:37Patrick Bet-David?

  No guns.

• 5:37Speaker 04

  Or even the right, or even the right to self-defense.

• 5:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 5:40Tom Ellsworth?

  You can't, you can't.

• 5:41Patrick Bet-David?

  And some good news for some people. A lot of people always track when Leonardo DiCaprio is single. And Leo's not single today, but Bill Belichick officially is.

• 5:51Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, no.

• 5:51Patrick Bet-David?

  So if some of you guys wanted to slide into his DM, Bill is officially single and available, and he's a very good coach, a lot of people would say. Jimmy, I wanna do that. World Series viewership dropped to a very low. I mean, apparently, people didn't wanna watch Milwaukee play Tampa. They wanted to watch Dodgers-Yankees, but you gotta win to go there. So Milwaukee, congratulations. We'll talk about those stats. Bukele, you gotta love Bukele, by the way. Did you see what Bukele just said? Bukele came up and said, "Hey, you wanna come and take out our four humanitarian people that came to your country? That's what you wanna do?" Yes. Well, guess what? What?

• 6:32Patrick Bet-David?

  "I'm gonna send 2,000 soldiers to Haiti." How many? 2,000. For how many people you're trying to save? Four. You're gonna send 2,000 people to Haiti? Yes. What types of soldiers? The best of the best. You don't mess with our people. Now, some people, like Connor this morning, are saying, "Why don't we just leave those 2,000 people there and let Bukele clean up Haiti?" Not a bad idea.

• 6:55Speaker 04

  Very good idea.

• 6:55Patrick Bet-David?

  If you think about it, not a bad idea. A lot of people have tried, you know, maybe that's one way of doing it. Another story came out that Tom and I, you know, we were talking about yesterday. Oil giants, big, big profit came through. Oil giants, massive profits. But wait a minute, aren't gas prices high where their profits need to be lower because they're also buying gas prices at a higher level? Not, not fully, not fully. We'll talk about what's going on with oil giants having record-breaking quarters. Exxon and Chevron, others, you know, bringing a bunch of cash, and they could potentially lower the gas prices, but they're also taking advantage of the crisis, saying, "Hey, if people think gas prices are automatically gonna be high because a war is going on,

• 7:38Patrick Bet-David?

  keep selling it higher. No one's complaining about it. Let's keep taking the profits." And last but not least, Angel Studios has a story of moving forward, the movies they fund, no sex, no F-words, no, you know, cursing, any of that stuff, which it's a very different business model, but there's a market for that as well. So with that being said, let's get right into it. The first story I wanna get into is the story of Michigan. Abdul against Rogers, okay? Abdul has had a lead. They've debated now a couple times. We've seen plenty. But all of a sudden, Abdul's primary contender that he barely beat by maybe 15,000, 20,000 votes, I think her name is Haley Stevens. If you go and pull up the

• 8:20Patrick Bet-David?

  primary victory, how close it was when Abdul beat her, it was very, very close. I wanna say 750-something to 730-something. It wasn't like it was a landslide victory that took place. Tom, you can correct me there.

• 8:33Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, she ran a very solid but average campaign. I don't think they took him seriously. They thought he'd be seen as this, you know...

• 8:41Patrick Bet-David?

  She was supposed to win. He was the major underdog.

• 8:44Tom Ellsworth?

  They thought, "Oh, my gosh, we're never gonna vote for a Muslim. Don't worry about it. We're gonna do it like this." And then boom!

• 8:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Look at the numbers right there. Yeah, 743 to 720. Look at third place. That's tight. So he barely beat her by 16,000 votes. So she's a Democrat. She has the accent of being from Michigan. And then yesterday, she drops this video that goes full-on viral saying this. Go for it. She's a Democrat. Watch this.

• 9:11Speaker 05

  In Michigan, as you may have seen, our Democratic nominee for US Senate, Abdul, said that I was no longer welcome in his campaign, and that I should stay away. And he's right. And that's why I am endorsing Mike Rogers for the United States Senate today. I don't belong in Abdul's campaign. I do not stand with Hassan Piker, who gets trafficked on our college campuses. A dear friend of mine, earlier today, was saying that education is on the ballot. And she's absolutely right. And what our students see,

• 9:50Speaker 05

  what our children see, and who we are as Michiganders, is not hate, and is not what we are getting out from our Democratic nominee right now. So I am just one person. I love this state. As some of you know, I've, you know, run a campaign saying that it was a love letter to Michigan, and I'm here to declare who we are as Michiganders. This is Phil Hart's seat for the US Senate.

• 10:20Patrick Bet-David?

  You can sigh at this point. We get it. So she says this. She goes on Anderson Cooper. She goes everywhere. If you wanna pull up one of the Anderson Cooper clips, and even her going out there with Mike Rogers, now campaigning for Mike Rogers, and people are asking questions, saying, "Wait a minute. You just said a bunch of things about Mike Rogers. Now you wanna go endorse him? This is it if you wanna play this clip."

• 10:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Ken, we don't have audio, guys. Jake. We need audio, guys.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Yeah, the audio, their audio.

• 10:51Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, no, I have better audio than this one.

• 10:53Speaker 04

  Same message, essentially.

• 10:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, so anyway, so Mike Rogers is there, and if you go on the calcio to see what the plus minus is, on how much movement this create. Now, keep in mind, calcio's not, you know, is gonna tell you the entire story, but this is what it looks like. There was a, go back to a day ago, if you could. Go back to a day ago, go to November 1st. Slight movement, none at all, Abdul even went higher.

• 11:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 11:18Patrick Bet-David?

  After this, so do you think this was an effective ad at all? I'll come to you first.

• 11:22Speaker 04

  What you did? I don't, I don't necessarily think it's effective. I do think it's an act of conviction. I do respect it tremendously. I think that she's been seeing a trend.

• 11:30Patrick Bet-David?

  And what's her biggest thing? When she explains why, she says, well, hey.

• 11:33Speaker 04

  It's that trend toward, it, policy doesn't matter, your connections to the Muslim Brotherhood don't matter, as long as you make a video, like you had discussed earlier, touching on, on Israel or anything to just distract to Israel, then you can get away with virtually anything. So, and at the expense of what? This video is completely insane and detached from reality, by the way.

• 11:53Patrick Bet-David?

  This is Abdul's commercial. Yeah, this is one of the commercials that Abdul.

• 11:56Speaker 04

  Detached from all fact, completely.

• 11:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Go ahead and play this clip.

• 11:59Speaker 06

  Do we get all the sandwich stuff for the kids' lunch? They don't like turkey anymore. Yeah, I know. What about the bananas? Yeah, I got them too. But, honey. What? You're gonna have to put those eggs back. They don't like eggs anymore? No, they like eggs, but we have to set that $7 aside. For killing Palestinians? What? I mean, don't we give Israel $4 billion a year anyways? Yeah, and now we're giving them another $26 billion. Do you know how much that is per American taxpayer? No. It's like $161 per person. Apparently, it's costing us a lot of money to drop bombs on Gaza. It's terrible.

• 12:41Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause right there. This is the question.

• 12:43Speaker 04

  Then he goes, oh, our personal health care.

• 12:45Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the question, though. This is the question. This is the only question I'm asking you. Forget about the ad. The question is, is it working?

• 12:52Speaker 04

  It's clearly working. There's a trend in the United States to off-shift everything to a scapegoat. You can have legitimate criticism of Israel, but when it gets to the point of, I can't afford bananas because of Israel, when it's literally 0.013% roughly of our GDP that goes to Israel. Our entire foreign aid budget is a small percentage of our GDP. It's roughly 6% I believe of our GDP. So this entire logic that all our problems are Israel, everything has to be diverted to Israel, all terrorism, all evil in the world is Israel. It's effective. It's getting people to have a singular thing to hate, so that we can just distract from anything.

• 13:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think this ad won't work in every state. But it will work in Michigan. If they did a national ad like this, I don't know if it's gonna work in every single market. But of course, in Michigan, it would. This is Hassan Piker reacting to what she had to say. And then Andrew, I'm gonna come to you right after this. Go for it.

• 13:43Speaker 02

  But imagine if Haley Stevens came out and made that demand. Imagine if Haley Stevens came out for months and said, sorry, Abdul, you really have to be in favor of a full-blown abortion ban.

• 14:02Speaker 02

  Would the media cover it in the same way? Would the media lend credence to this argument, or would they treat her as a rat fucker and as a spoiler? Making ridiculous demands like a petulant child?

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• 16:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause right there. Andrew, your thoughts?

• 16:48Speaker 04

  So a couple of things. First, the thing to look at is, a lot of people in this election cycle already think that there's a uniparty. They think it's the same party, it's the same serpent body, which is two heads. So her coming out, actually, and speaking for Mike Rogers, what does that affirm? It affirms, it's a uniparty. So El-Sayed can take this ground of, hey, I'm the ultimate outsider. You know, look, these people are all in cahoots together, and what are they all trying to do? They're all trying to support Israel. And that's all they care about is supporting Israel. That's all both parties care about is supporting Israel.

• 17:30Speaker 04

  This was not actually a good move. If she was trying to take this guy down, this probably has the opposite effect, actually. Because he can then point and say, see, uniparty, uniparty. AIPAC, AIPAC, AIPAC. Yep, and then the second thing is, is that I kind of reject a little bit about what you're saying. The DSA, right now, Democrats are pushing towards their own form of populism. And socialists are pushing towards their own form of populism, and is very popular to be anti-Israel. Very popular. The idea here that they're pointing out is hypocrisy. They're saying, hey, the fact that these, both these parties care more about sending your tax dollars to what they perceive as a genocide,

• 18:14Speaker 04

  that points out the hypocrisy of both of these parties, that they don't actually care about you at all, they only care about funding this other nation doing these other wars. And so, he's got a really good leg to stand on when he goes to the constituency now, so he can say, I'm the ultimate outsider, I'm gonna stop this, these people are all in cahoots, just look at what happened. Right? I'm going ahead in the polls, my own party comes out to sabotage me, why? Because they want Israel to do well. Yeah, but do you not think that that's an, like, objectively become a tactic that you can just use? You're accused of being part of, having family connections to the Muslim Brotherhood. Don't look at me, look at Israel. Of course. Every problem can now be just diverted to them.

• 18:57Speaker 04

  But politics isn't about what's true, it's about what people think is true. You're making a very good. And when you're talking about optics here, optics are what matters more than anything else. And his optics are real good here, and theirs are not real good. Mike Rogers being endorsed by a Democrat over the issue of Israel. He now has leverage to say, look at that uniparty.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 19:21Speaker 04

  Look at that uniparty, I'm the outsider.

• 19:23Patrick Bet-David?

  So it actually helps him out, in your opinion?

• 19:25Speaker 04

  Massively helps him out.

• 19:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, do you agree with him?

• 19:27Speaker 04

  It looked like the poll showed that, too.

• 19:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, I'll tell you, words talk, numbers scream, and I'll give you some numbers. What did El-Sayed raise in the 24 hours after that endorsement? On Act Blue? 2.4 million dollars was raised in 24 hours. He raised 1.2 million in four and a half hours. So, when Andrew talks about having the opposite effect, look, look what they did. They stepped on the gas to use this, and it was hypocrisy and betrayal. That's what you talked about. All of those text messages and everything, because you know, all this is done by text. Has anybody been text swarmed in the last two weeks?

• 20:06Speaker 02

  I just, I just got one from the Byron Donalds, uh, team.

• 20:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Correct. Well, text swarms are everywhere right now, and they're pushing out, um, you know, these heartstring ads for emails, they're everywhere. And I think all of us have probably got all kinds of things on our phones, because we, our numbers get put in there whenever you're, by the way, if you're communicating with a politician, they're probably going to slide your number to blue or red, you know, and you're going to get all this stuff. But Pat, that's what happened. This gave him a huge lift, and there's the Forbes story right there, because I was tracking it yesterday, at four hours, 1.2 million. Isn't that incredible?

• 20:45Speaker 02

  It, well, it gave him a lift, but he was gonna win anyway. I don't think that it's, it's gonna, it's the deciding factor that she went in.

• 20:52Speaker 04

  Well, I would be cautious on that.

• 20:54Speaker 02

  Really?

• 20:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'd be cautious on being too quick to the draw that say it's just gonna take it, uh, or even that he was up to a week ago. This was brutal for Republicans. They just don't know it yet. Giving the opposition the optics that they now have an outsider candidate and both of the other parties are in unification on something is really bad in political elections now. It's terrible.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:19Speaker 04

  The idea is political populism all the way. You have to be an outsider for populism to work. That looked like it was all insider trading, right?

• 21:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, if we look at numbers right now, you got a billion dollars midterm machine, it's the most we've ever seen, 680 from all the, 637 from all these different PACs, cryptos in it apparently for how much money? I think I saw 200 million dollars of what they're doing. You see in the ads, you see in what's going on, uh, when it comes down to it, if you look at this specific race, we'll go into a couple other ones right now in a minute. If you had to guess right now, who do you think's gonna win between Abdul and Rogers? Where do you stand?

• 21:56Speaker 02

  I would very clear Abdul, I think.

• 21:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Are you, but are you at a point that you're saying it's over, like Abdul's gonna pick it up?

• 22:00Speaker 02

  In my view, it's, it's, it's pretty bad, yeah.

• 22:03Patrick Bet-David?

  Where are you at, Vinny?

• 22:04Speaker 02

  I'm, what I think and what I'm, I'm hoping, because I'm kinda with Andrew, Pat, it's like, it's, again, you never know. If we learned anything from polls and Hillary and markets, it doesn't always, that's why I'm so happy, like, well, let's just, let's just wait, because mind you, she only lost, by the way, he was supposed to win the primary by 10, 10. He, he won by one, one. Okay, so that means there's, there's a couple of groups, like the black, by the way, he's going on this, I'm cool with black people pandering tour because he's trying. And I seen a lot of interviews on the streets where these people are like, no, to hell with him, I'm going with Mike Rogers. He's like, just, just decency in America, and I, by the way, say what you want about what she's doing, at least, it's like an RFK and Tulsi Gabbard moment where she's, she's

• 22:47Speaker 02

  shifting, at least she's not doing, like, by the way, totally legal, she's not doing Alaska Dan Sullivan changing the name, which Connor, at some point, if you could find that freaking, it's still on the ballot and Trump posted how confusing it is, because they have to write in parentheses, the incumbent is this one. So it's obviously, and they can't find them, by the way. But what stood out to me, Pat, just really, really quickly with this, was the Hassan Piker angle. She's like, you know what, that, with everything that he said, mind you, even in that clip still, because I argue with Chank, with his freaking uncle, he still has the, the World Trade Towers on fire behind him, even though he was arguing for him, saying, no, he's not that guy. El-Sayed is that guy, bro. Abolishing ICE, making all these people, uh, citizens that are here, the transgenders in school, which is, that's all that, that, that tequila, all sliding into the thing.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  I think, Pat, I'm hopeful that people, that her little shift might help, because it's pretty close. It's pretty close.

• 23:38Speaker 04

  Michiganers are pretty left now, though.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 23:41Speaker 04

  You have to, point out, they have Whitmer there, and she's been a terrible.

• 23:45Speaker 02

  Horrible.

• 23:46Speaker 04

  Terrible governor. But the truth is, is that the Democrats tend to take it.

• 23:50Tom Ellsworth?

  Tom? So, right here, if they'll scroll down a little bit, right here, and hit 60 days, right there, this is all the polls are out there. Some of these polls are BS, and we try to pull them out. But on Point Politics, put this together, take a look at just the trend of the polls. You've got stuff that's in there that's good, bad, and different in terms of the quality of the polls, but if you look at all the polls and the trend, this has been trending, you know, two points El-Sayed, and if you take the absolute trend line, right now it's seven. I don't think it's that big, and I think it's gonna take a hell of a turnout, Andrew, but I think that Rogers is in big trouble. He's not an exciting candidate, he's a nice man, but he's not a driver of the, of the populace.

• 24:34Tom Ellsworth?

  And I don't want this output. I hate these numbers. I hate them as an American and what it means what's gonna happen there, but I think the reality is, El-Sayed, in my book, is looking at at least a three-point victory unless turnout is so huge that it shifts.

• 24:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:51Speaker 04

  Now, in these, the polls that you're currently showing, a lot of these polls don't, they can't actually confirm whether these are Republicans or Democrats. They just assume it based on previous voting patterns? Is that what's going on now with these?

• 25:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, there, what you're talking about has been out there a lot, and there's a lot of people talking about it. Rich Barris talks about it, I think you're referencing, Mark Mitchell talks about it, I think these are the people you might be referencing. And there's some of the, a couple of those guys are seen as more radioactive than others in certain camps. So, what's interesting is, you're talking about what, right now, Pat, there's this whole concept going on in polling circles, and we're all gonna find out tomorrow night about the defectors. And what they're saying is the, and you're nodding, it's the independent voters that went for Trump, what was Trump's margin of victory, and then it's the edge Republicans that had registered Republican on the surge, you know, legitimacy of 2020, whatever it is, you don't have to believe in the reasons, you don't have to agree with the reasons,

• 25:50Tom Ellsworth?

  but voters, Pat, registered Republican, but they were always edge voters, and they're, they're being referred to now as defectors. And there's a lot, a lot of defectors here, and no, you don't know everything at all, but when you take out the clear fallacy polls, Andrew, and you look at everything else, and you kinda handicap them a bit, there's a trend.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 26:11Tom Ellsworth?

  And the trend is, the trend is right in front of us.

• 26:13Patrick Bet-David?

  I think, I think the part that, you know, uh, is also very risky to flirt with is the following. Here's, here's the part, where automatically, i- if, if the opposition is showing, like, remember that morning, hey, 2016, 95% chance Hillary Clinton's gonna win? Oh my God, what, what's the purpose of me voting? And you know, there's four different types of voters, the one that flips and goes to the other side, the one that sits it out, the one that votes but is like, ah, I'm not really that excited, and then one that's excited, right, oh my God, this, this person's gonna change my life.

• 26:47Tom Ellsworth?

  The true believers.

• 26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the true believers. So right now, how many true believers are Republican, are people going out there door knocking for Paxton? Man, I wanna go tell the world, I, I wanna tell the world about Mike Rogers, I wanna tell the world about Byron Donalds, I don't know.

• 26:59Speaker 04

  The enthusiasm's not there.

• 27:00Patrick Bet-David?

  So if you don't have that, then, but, but this is the part that you cannot lose. Half the battle on the way the enemy beats you is to convince you you've lost to not even show up. That is the best strategy out there, where if there's anything, like, you go to a game, sometimes you got a kid that plays a sport, and before they go to a game and the coach says something like, oh my God, these guys are 10 times better than us, and let me tell you, you know, everybody in the market says they're gonna beat us and it's gonna be 8-0, that's the worst message to also give, versus to say, no, we're gonna go fight, I don't know, yeah, they're much, they're ranked number one, we're ranked number 28, but we're still gonna go fight and see what happens. I think the, the idea of putting that doubt in you right now to see what's gonna happen,

• 27:45Patrick Bet-David?

  the Republicans have to identify what's happening on the other side. What does a first Muslim senator mean in the history of America? What does it mean? Does that do anything to you? Do you want that mindset? From a guy whose sister tweeted 14 years ago about Muslim Brotherhood, MB, and the support for it, casually, relatives being a part of it? Are you okay with that? And you think if they get the first one, you don't think they're gonna get the second, or the third, or the fourth, or the fifth, or the sixth? You don't think in the next 10, 20, 30, 40 years, that mindset's gonna be here? Then what happens with that, right? We had a guy this morning, who for the last two years, I won't mention his name, but he was here this morning, and he said, um...

• 28:25Patrick Bet-David?

  Man, I can't believe it, you know. Where is AIPAC when you need them? Where is AIPAC? We're gonna get a first Muslim senator. And I looked at him, I said, for two and a half, three years, you said AIPAC was the enemy. And you hated him. Now you're saying, where is AIPAC? I said, I thought Israel's the enemy. I get being angry at Bibi, I get being angry at all this stuff. And then when you look at the number of amount of money they're putting compared to others, they're not even, what number did they rank AIPAC on how much money they're putting in?

• 28:50Tom Ellsworth?

  They're not even in the top thirty, forty, like, they're not a...

• 28:53Patrick Bet-David?

  But, but I gotta give credit to the opposite side. They created such massive fear porn that a bunch of intelligent, smart people who emotionally fell for it, and like, and now what are you gonna get? You're gonna get your first Muslim senator. If this guy comes through.

• 29:10Tom Ellsworth?

  Anecdotally, I've seen it in my own circle of friends, how it's become like a primary issue for them, the, this whole AIPAC thing, this whole trend toward everything going in that direction. Uh, you touched on a really interesting point, that it's become kind of like a, a Trump idea of establishment versus anti-establishment. And once you frame things that way, the right doesn't have good framing anymore. They don't have good narratives. And it's not so, the argument shouldn't be that he's gonna be the first Muslim. The argument should be that he's an extremist, his positions are extreme by nature for what we represent as a country beyond that. You know what I mean? So that's the bigger problem here is what does he represent? Who's he connected to? Who is his family connected to? And why are we accepting that just because of this single issue?

• 29:49Speaker 04

  But that rhetoric didn't work for Trump. That was the same rhetoric that Democrats tried to use against Trump, that he was an extremist, he's way out of control, this guy's way too far to the right, he's gonna do X bad thing to LGBTQ, take away abortion rights, he's gonna... None of that worked, because it's establishment, anti-establishment.

• 30:07Tom Ellsworth?

  And so long as that's the framing you're doing.

• 30:09Speaker 04

  And that's the framing. And right now, that framing's on his side. And that's real bad. That trend's real bad.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, because this exposes, bro, this exposes the, the Republican Party, because Trump came in as just Trump. And it was like, he MAGA'd this base and everything, and now he's on his way out, the dust is settling, and now you're like, wait a minute, Ken, who the hell's that Ken Pax? Never even heard of Mike Rogan. I don't know who any of these people are, and it's, there's no, like you said, there's no excitement, there's no like...

• 30:37Patrick Bet-David?

  But keep this in mind as well, we also didn't know who Abdul was.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 30:41Patrick Bet-David?

  When he came out of nowhere, but he's exciting, and he's talented, and he's capable, and he can sell the dream, and he can talk shit, and fight, and go back and do, even the other day, yesterday, when I watched the Stevens thing came out, and it's like, yo, what do you think about Stevens? What she had to say? Honestly, I'm not really paying attention. You know who I'm thinking about? I'm thinking about the family of two kids, this way, fifteen miles, fifteen miles, fifteen miles. What are they gonna do to pay for everything that they got? That's why I'm concerned. He has it to be able to go through it. So, we'll see what happens. I wanna go through a couple different stories as well, but before we do, uh, uh, the story I wanna get into is with Tucker's tweet, as well as the military around the world, you know, getting ready. We were at, uh, we were at, uh, where were we at yesterday? We were at Bass Pro Shop yesterday.

• 31:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Like some men.

• 31:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Shout out to Kevin and Scott with one T. Kevin was so helpful, for now, one of the guys comes up, I asked him five different times, can he help? No, man, I gotta break, I, I don't know, just go to the front. I'm like, do you work here? Yeah, but I gotta break, man, I gotta go to... I'm like, dude.

• 31:38Tom Ellsworth?

  For five minutes?

• 31:39Patrick Bet-David?

  And we get a guy named Kevin, stays with us for thirty minutes.

• 31:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Maybe even longer.

• 31:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Maybe even longer, helps us out, and Scott, classy people. But you could tell, people are kinda sitting there saying, hey, do I need to get prepped? I got a text this morning from one of my friends in LA, at seven AM. California's four AM. So he's asking a question, saying, hey, is something really going on? Should I really go prep? Should I really go through it? We're gonna talk about that, but before we do, I want you to turn your attentions to the FLB chocolate shoes that just came out. Go for it.

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  There you go. Go to FLB.com. Many of the sizes have sold out, but if your size is there, do whatever you can to order it, because the next shipment won't come for about six to nine months. All right, with that being said, fear porn, faith, positivity, is something gonna happen? Is something not gonna happen? How does a brand that believes the future looks bright cover things like this, right? We believe the future looks bright, nothing's changed? I think the, the part that most of us don't think about enough is, as a leader, our job is to be prepared. You're, you're, that's your job as a man, to provide protection for your wife, your kids, your peers, relatives, people who rely on you, to be prepared for what's going on. But at the same time, you also have to make sure you don't go so, I have relatives that

• 35:41Patrick Bet-David?

  go so deep into it, that they almost can't move, they can't shake. Every, everything around them is so much anxiety and fear and worry about what's gonna be taking place. That's also not a healthy place to be. But Tucker posted this yesterday, and it went viral. Under pressure from Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu, the Trump administration may be within days of launching a nuclear strike on Iran. The target would be Pickaxe Mountain in central Iran, where Israeli intelligence claims the Iranian government has restarted its nuclear enrichment program. No conventional weapon in the American arsenal can penetrate three hundred feet of solid granite to destroy the tunnels where enrichment is supposedly taking place. The only military option is nuclear strike. Netanyahu has been pushing hard for one.

• 36:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Bibi calls Trump about every day, says an informant observer Netanyahu is concerned and desperate after last week's election results. He can't form a government unless Trump intervenes directly in Israel politics and brokers a deal, and other parties that gives Netanyahu sixty-one seats in the Knesset. Otherwise, he is out of Prime Minister. Okay, anyway, so this guy goes all the way through. It's a long tweet, I'm not gonna read it to you, if you wanna keep going through it. Maybe do me a favor and just get a summary bullet point, so I can read the summary to the audience for them to get. Just do summary on it. So that comes out. And then you hear stories of what the government's getting ready to do, potentially after...

• 37:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Uh, midterms, they're waiting for it. And, you know, hey, should I, is something gonna happen? Some, some are whispering, saying the grid could be down three days. So be ready for the grid to be down three days. You and I talked about that yesterday. So they may bring the grid down themselves is the rumor that's spreading because they don't want the enemy to be able to tap into our system. So this is why go out there and, you know, buy yourself water, food, prep 60 days, 30 days. That's what the conversation is sounding like today. Okay. I'll come to you first, Elon. When you see this tweet, I had you read it early this morning because we were gonna talk about on the podcast. When you see this tweet, and by the way, Washington divided, Carlson claims Hexeth, Cooper, Rubio, Ratcliffe, and even Obama opposed the emerging Iran peace agreement while

• 37:41Patrick Bet-David?

  JD, Steve Witkoff are urging Trump to pursue a diplomacy catastrophic economic environmental consequence. He warns that a nuclear strike would contaminate Persian Gulf water supplies affecting 100 million people, devastate already strained global energy markets and trigger a worldwide economic depression, risk of World War III. He argues that American nuclear first use would establish a dangerous precedent, potentially encouraging Russia, India, Pakistan, and North Korea to deploy nuclear weapons in their own conflicts. Trump faces a critical decision. He alleges the administration has quietly relaxed its nuclear doctrine since February, making tactical nuclear weapon easier to deploy. He claims Trump is hesitating, but could decide whether to authorize a strike within days. Your thoughts on him?

• 38:25Tom Ellsworth?

  I think he's arguing something that number one, hasn't happened. He's created an argument and then he's saying if this happens. I mean, we were supposed to be in World War III, according to Tucker Carlson, maybe 40 times now. And it hasn't happened. So, and Tucker Carlson has gone down a very weird trend.

• 38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  What has he gotten right? What prediction has he made that he's gotten right?

• 38:44Tom Ellsworth?

  He was right about the fact that we were gonna attack Iran. He did predict that.

• 38:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay.

• 38:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, and he's made a few other generalized predictions, but this is a very hyper-specific prediction, and this is one that has major consequences, and there's no real evidence to support it. And again, Tucker Carlson has an odd trend in the past four years or so of going down this. He defended the Taliban, saying that they treat their drug addicts better than us. He did propaganda, talking about how great McDonald's in Russia tastes. He's gone down this weird trend, talked about how amazing Sharia law is and how, you know, we shouldn't be talking bad about Sharia law. So there's a weird trend with Tucker where I don't take him as seriously as I used to. I think you were talking about, you know, fear, fear mongering and kind of this sentiment in the country. He has used this as a tactic consistently, either for engagement.

• 39:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I don't, I can't, you know, assert what his intentions are, but I see a trend with him to push fear for whatever reason. And, and he never has consequence or accountability when it doesn't happen the way he said. So he gets.

• 39:43Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, is there, is the timing intentional? Meaning, the timing of posting this a day before midterms, two days before midterms? Does this tweet help Republicans or hurt Republicans?

• 39:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Some tremendous, no one's gonna be pro a nuclear, tactical nuclear use.

• 39:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, but what I'm saying is if you read into the tweet, does this tweet help the Republican Party or hurt the Republican Party? Or it's indifferent? It's got no impact on it for midterms at all?

• 40:07Tom Ellsworth?

  It, to my view, it hurts. It comes back to. Yeah, nobody, nobody wants more war. And what Tucker is doing here, first of all, he's, we used to be a journalist. Where's the independently verifiable information? Where's one quote, one person, one source, where he doesn't have that? And wasn't it, I, check me on this. I think 30 days ago, Trump publicly said he ruled out nuclear as an option. I think he said that 30 days ago. Yeah. Very clearly. And right now, what you're, you're saying this, it's interesting, Pat. Two reactions. This is a hoax, Tucker, will you please knock it off? And then, oh my gosh, I'm so alarmed. Both sides gets massive engagement, 48 million. That's how I read it. Yep.

• 40:51Speaker 04

  Well, there's a lot going on here. So when I went through and investigated this, here's what I found. I found that the way that this was driven forward was they were saying there's multitudes of countries who are telling their citizenry that you need to be prepared. Actually, that's not true. So a lot of these supposed warnings came last year, middle of last year, beginning of this year, right? And, and they come every year. So almost every nation on planet Earth tells their citizenry, you should have three days of food, right? And, and water just in case of emergency. This is nothing new. The United States does this all the time.

• 41:32Speaker 04

  Hexeth has already told us that he was going to move towards some sort of national preparedness because of how many hurricanes, things like this, uh, we end up with where people are just woefully unprepared. So the whole thing is a hoax. From the ground up, it's a hoax. None of it's true. These warnings are coming out, they're putting together warnings that came out from a year ago in some cases.

• 41:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me ask you this question. Let me, let me play the devil's advocate and go to the other side and say, what, what's, what's the likelihood that either a grid going down for three days or a nuclear strike taking place within the next two weeks? What's the likelihood of that happening?

• 42:09Speaker 04

  It's very low.

• 42:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Give me a percentage of where you think, I have mine. Where are you at?

• 42:12Speaker 04

  Abysmal, maybe 1%.

• 42:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, I'm at 5%.

• 42:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I'm at 2 to 3% of a great attack. I'm at 5%.

• 42:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Viddy.

• 42:19Tom Ellsworth?

  5.75.

• 42:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so you're, you're above all of us, but, but.

• 42:23Speaker 04

  But that's really high.

• 42:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, I think that's really high. I, I agree with you, it's one out of 1 in 20, in my opinion. Right now, here's the thing. Okay, what's the likely of that Democrats are gonna win House? According to Kalshi is 96%.

• 42:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Pretty sure.

• 42:35Patrick Bet-David?

  According to Kalshi, I don't know if you have that report up or not, pull it up. Okay. What's the likely of that Democrats are gonna take control of Senate?

• 42:42Tom Ellsworth?

  According to Kalshi.

• 42:43Patrick Bet-David?

  74% according to Kalshi.

• 42:45Tom Ellsworth?

  That's called a sweep.

• 42:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, look at this. House is 94% and, and, and by the way, if you think.

• 42:51Speaker 04

  Those stats are looking bad.

• 42:54Patrick Bet-David?

  Absolutely bad. And Senate is 74%. So now here's a question. Let's go to it, Andrew. If we know Trump's gonna lose Senate, he's gonna lose House, how long does he have to attack Iran without needing the accountability and approval from House and Senate? How many days does he have?

• 43:11Tom Ellsworth?

  January?

• 43:11Patrick Bet-David?

  9 AM, January 4th, Monday. Beautiful. So you got two months, right? That's what you got. And they swear in. Perfect. So you got two months that he can go through it. Do you think?

• 43:20Speaker 04

  Well, wait a second. That, I don't think that's accurate because he already has appropriation budget that he can still use, I think, up through the next year to continue the attacks. It's true that they could pass new legislation to try to rein him in, but they can't do that day one. And he still has a budget, he's the commander in chief. He has unilateral, broad unilateral control over the armed forces.

• 43:44Patrick Bet-David?

  How much more, how much more pain in the butt will they be for him to have the free for all ability?

• 43:49Speaker 04

  Oh yeah, well, they'll, they'll impeach him day one. I agree with that 1,000%. They'll put in impeachment proceedings right away, whether they actually go anywhere or not. They'll still.

• 43:57Patrick Bet-David?

  They were talking about they, they wanna go after Hexeth or somebody like that.

• 44:00Speaker 04

  They'll go after, they'll go after everybody, but.

• 44:02Patrick Bet-David?

  This is the argument, let me give you the argument, give me a rebuttal. The argument is the following. The argument is, Andrew, he's got 60 days to do it after the midterms. He's not doing it pre-midterms because pre-midterms could hurt the midterms for Republicans. He's been on the campaign, I don't know if you guys have seen it. He's done 30 campaign stops in the last two and a half weeks. Okay? At 80 years old, he's done 30 stops, one by one by one, he's going, he said, I wasn't gonna go to Michigan, but I decided to come because I think Mike Rogers is this. What's the likelihood that this tweet? Cause you know, you think Tucker's speaking to some people in the CIA that are friends of Tucker who are anti-Trump people? Of course. You think he's got some people that work in the White House that secretly are pro? You don't think him and JD have spoken? Of course they have.

• 44:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't think he's spoken to some people that are within the, you know, Department of War, Department of, you know, where they side with him? Of course he has. He has these relatives. To, to be naive and say some of these sources are not real, you're also being naive and you're not thinking he's talking to those guys. But what about some of the people that say he's gonna attack Iran? Because if he doesn't, and Iran stays, they're gonna come out and save face and look what we did, the big, bad, evil guy that everybody's afraid of Trump. We stood up and we beat him. And that will hurt the Republicans 2028 chances, and that hands off the election to somebody like an AOC in 2028. Do you think there's some credibility in that specific argument?

• 45:25Speaker 04

  I doubt it because of just pure pragmatism. So for, even from the pragmatic approach, if you're Trump, it's still way better for you to try to extricate yourself peacefully from the Iranian conflict rather than attack them. If he does attack them and then you, you have Democrats in control of both chambers, they, and they move in impeachment proceedings, the entire public could easily turn against Trump. Even a lot of his hangers-on may turn against him if he does a full-on ground invasion of Iran.

• 45:53Tom Ellsworth?

  Or tactical nuke.

• 45:54Speaker 04

  Tactical nuke is way, it's like, the whole, the whole world would, would then be going after Trump. So just from a.

• 46:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Capable of it? You think he's capable of it?

• 46:04Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I think Trump, despite talking big, has a, he's an intelligent guy.

• 46:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me ask you.

• 46:10Speaker 04

  I think that though, from a pragmatic view, it's hard for me to envision that he wouldn't wanna pull away peacefully now.

• 46:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, question for you. Who's Truman to you? Well, he was never president while we were alive, but you read the history book. Who's Truman to you? Top, top, top 23 president or bottom 23 president?

• 46:28Speaker 04

  Um, I would put him at the bottom 23.

• 46:30Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, where do you put Truman?

• 46:31Tom Ellsworth?

  I put him at top 23. He basically stopped World War II. It was messy. It was ugly. It was terrible. He stopped it and he tried to start the economic recovery afterwards.

• 46:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, where do you put him? Any opinion on Truman or no?

• 46:44Tom Ellsworth?

  No, not as strong, but I'm with Tom on that.

• 46:45Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then if that's the case, what did Truman do? What button did he press?

• 46:51Speaker 04

  That's true. He dropped, yeah, the atomic bombs.

• 46:53Speaker 02

  Atomic bombs, uh, plural.

• 46:54Speaker 04

  Which, by the way, but history now looking back on it says that that might have been one of the best decisions.

• 47:00Patrick Bet-David?

  But this is where I'm going with you. What I'm trying to, what I'm trying to get the conversation, and guys, push back. I don't want you to agree. I want you to push back. Do you think somebody in his ear is sharing the history and saying, hey, I just want you to know, history books favor Truman because he was able to do what even FDR didn't have the audacity to do. Do you think anybody in his ear?

• 47:20Speaker 04

  Fundamentally very different.

• 47:21Patrick Bet-David?

  And maybe, maybe a guy like Lindsey Graham, because he was one that kept saying, let's go, let's go, let's go.

• 47:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, be like Roosevelt.

• 47:27Patrick Bet-David?

  Do you think a person like the late Lindsey Graham is here whispering that in his ear?

• 47:31Speaker 04

  I do think that he has tons of people, his own administration, Joe Kent, when I talk to Joe Kent, he told me directly. He's like, look, he has a lot of people around who fluff his ego. And through that ego fluffing, they give him terrible advice when it comes to Israel, and he does follow a lot of it. I've heard it enough times from people who were former members of the administration that I agree that that's true. The distinction between Truman, though, and what's going on right now is that we were in at this bloody war where we had tens of thousands of body bags coming home for years. So the idea of selling to the American people that has justified dropping atomic bomb or this new weapon they've never seen was totally justified. The Americans wanted that war done.

• 48:12Speaker 04

  Their daughters and sons were coming home in body bags overwhelmingly. That's not what's happening here.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  You're also looking at direct attacks on Americans.

• 48:19Speaker 04

  What have we had as a total death count in the Iranian conflict? I mean, you're talking about more people dying yearly in training exercises in the US military than are dying in this conflict. So there's no justification for Trump to do any sort of ground invasion. There's no good justification for him to do any sort of tactical nuke. That's going to be a really hard sell without body bags.

• 48:41Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a different question. Have you, have you prepped? Do you have anything that you prepped? And what do you have as a prepper yourself? Give me five basic things that you have that maybe if somebody's listened to this, they haven't, maybe they want to consider.

• 48:52Speaker 04

  Beans, rice, bullets. It's the, okay?

• 48:55Speaker 02

  That's a big one.

• 48:56Speaker 04

  Beans, rice, bullets.

• 48:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that literally what it is for you?

• 48:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, listen.

• 48:59Speaker 02

  And access to water.

• 49:00Speaker 04

  What you want, yeah, what you want is, um, like you said, water, right? Water can, you can have storage issues with water long term. But it's easy enough to get your hands on. Water purification is too. Long-term food storage is not difficult. You can do it with a half a percent of your paycheck over time. And really, you're only looking to get through an initial crisis. That's it. You're not going to be bunkering down in the middle of the suburbs in your, in your house for 60 days after the grid goes down. That's just not what's going to happen. You want, you'd want enough, though, to get through an initial crisis.

• 49:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so then, so any, any other one specifically? Anything else?

• 49:41Speaker 02

  I think, I think for grid wise, crank radio is always going to be good because you want to hear what's on the way.

• 49:46Speaker 04

  Ham radio.

• 49:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Satellite flashlight.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  Satellite flashlight.

• 49:49Speaker 04

  Tourniquets are important.

• 49:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, food, first aid kit, you know, I love, obviously the bullets and the guns because.

• 49:54Patrick Bet-David?

  I like the first aid kit.

• 49:55Speaker 02

  Because if you don't have the gun, guess what? You're just getting supplies for the biggest guy in the block.

• 49:59Speaker 04

  Penicillin is actually an odd thing to like, if you can.

• 50:01Patrick Bet-David?

  Pedracycline, you know, antibiotics.

• 50:03Speaker 04

  Have extras.

• 50:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Benny, how much ammo did we buy yesterday?

• 50:07Speaker 02

  Like, it was to the point where people that were buying guns were like in their moment and they were just like, one guy was like, oh my God, like.

• 50:13Patrick Bet-David?

  We literally went in, I said, how much more do you have of this? This is the only thing we have. I want all of it. How much more do you have of this? I want all. We picked up everything. I already have 50,000 ammo in the house. It's not like you don't have it. This is what I will tell you.

• 50:25Speaker 04

  But what about the, I would say this, the one thing I would add more than anything else. I would actually spend three times the amount against goods on training. So first aid kits are worthless if you don't have first aid training and most people don't. Guns are worthless. If you don't know, if you don't know how to use them.

• 50:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Phenomenal feedback.

• 50:44Speaker 04

  If it's the case that you have water purification tablets, but you don't know how to purify anything. And that's most people. So I see tons of people who have tons of stuff in their house and they have no idea how to use it. I would spend, if you have any budget set aside for survival or for long-term prepping, three times more on the training than the items. You'd be surprised at how much you have in your household that can double up for use if you just have basic training.

• 51:10Patrick Bet-David?

  So let's do this. Let's go to the other thing here to talk about. Tom, you know, a lot of billionaires, folks who have money, the wealthy, they're building nuclear bunkers, okay? They're making that investment. But they're not making it because they want to celebrate their 50th birthday party in the nuclear bunker. They're not doing it because it's like, hey, Andrew, you're invited. Come on down. Let's go four stories below and let's have a good time together, right? Let's have a good time. They're doing it because their concern of shit would have hit the fan.

• 51:37Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 51:37Patrick Bet-David?

  We gotta be ready for it, right? Where are you at with this? Are you at a place that something could happen the next 60 days, Tom?

• 51:44Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, I am. I look at it on two simple axes, uh, trigger points and response points. Trigger points. If Trump against the wall does something. Now, do I think he's going to use actual nuke? No. And I see people out there retaying, ah, they were using DU rounds in Iraq. And I'm like, screw you. That's depleted uranium. That's on the tip of the bullets so that they penetrate tanks, you know, so they penetrate. That's not a nuclear device designed with radiation and heat to, to take out personnel. So I look at, is Trump going to

• 52:23Tom Ellsworth?

  exhaust a lot of options to go after Iran and kind of wrap this up? Yes. Do I think there's already sleeper cells in the United States and other places? Yes. Do I think there's going to be, I'm going to use a word here, a nuisance act that kills a lot of people? And what I mean by that, it's a one-time act. It's a huge tragic nuisance. It's not a demonstrated, um, military force that like football takes land, has a new beachhead, now they can move forward. So I think next 60 days, we are probably going to see reactions and we're going to see sleeper cells try to do things. I think there's unfortunately going to be a loss, um, number one. Number two, I think

• 53:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Trump's really trying to drop that ace of spades, Trump card down and get this thing wrapped up. And, um, I think he may have people talking to him about nuke. So I think that's going to happen the next 60 days.

• 53:16Patrick Bet-David?

  So here's the thing. Here's the thing with, you know, future looks bright, only the paranoid survive, right?

• 53:22Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm being paranoid, but I believe in that.

• 53:23Speaker 04

  Both can be true.

• 53:24Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, by the way, I'm 5149. I'm always, I'm always in a 5149 camp.

• 53:28Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm right there with you.

• 53:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Future looks bright. 6040 is also good to be there, but let's just say we're in that camp. But here's what I want you to think about. Before 9/11 happened, did anybody think 9/11 was going to happen? No. Nobody was sitting around saying 9/11 is going to happen, except if your name is Alex Jones, you know, who, who made the prediction, what, a few months prior to that, and he says something's about to happen?

• 53:45Tom Ellsworth?

  And whoever shorted the airlines, those guys were pretty good.

• 53:48Speaker 04

  But Alex Jones always makes the prediction something's about to happen. Therefore, when something does happen, he can always retroactively point it out.

• 53:55Tom Ellsworth?

  So that's the broken clock theory, right?

• 53:56Patrick Bet-David?

  But I'm going to tell you, that was a little bit, you gotta give the guy credit when it comes down to that one. That was a little bit too strange to get that right. However, let's go, let's go through this. Let's say we attack Iran, Tom. Let's say midterm's done and within three days, five days, seven days, nine days, boom, we go in, in our own way.

• 54:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Turn it up.

• 54:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, turn it up. You go out there and do it your own way. He said sleeper cells, story comes out saying Iran exposes vulnerabilities at 26 military bases. I don't know if you guys saw that story or not. Of what they're talking about. And then Khamenei coming out saying, we're fully ready. If you do anything, we're ready to go to war. We're ready to, you know, represent ourselves and defend ourselves. What page is that on, by the way, on, um, the sleeper cells, the 20, uh, is that a dendem or is that the main story? Let me see which one that is. Can you guys find that one? Connor, text it to me. I thought I had it here. What page is that on? Um, yeah, what page is it?

• 54:55Patrick Bet-David?

  I just had it right in front of me.

• 54:56Speaker 04

  I can't hear it. Can you hear something?

• 54:58Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me see what page I got. I'm going to go to this because this tells us exactly where Iran's at. Because Iran's not sitting there not taking this thing seriously, right? They're looking at the military bases. Tom, I'll come to you before I find this. So let's just say we do attack. Let's just say we do go after them. What are some different ways that Iran could do something outside of the sleeper cells?

• 55:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I think Iran has been quietly rebuilding and they've got missiles and they've got help from China and they've got help from Russia. Let's remember what we did. We intercepted a whole tanker full of, um, uh, chemicals that has one use, to make rocket propellant, to make fuel for rockets. So we intercepted that. We've, we've seen that Russia was giving coordinates and saying, um, no, no, one block over, three feet to the left. Russia was giving those coordinates about our base locations in the Middle East and in Qatar and Oman. And so it's like, oh gee, thanks. So we know they've been getting help and we know they've been rebuilding their rockets. And we know that they launched one off, was it May?

• 56:03Tom Ellsworth?

  They launched it all the way out past the Gulf and they landed it near Diego Garcia.

• 56:09Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. Yep.

• 56:10Tom Ellsworth?

  They got all the way out there. So what do I think? I think they're in the back and I think they're building stuff and I think they're getting ready for it.

• 56:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Here, let me read this. Iran targeted.

• 56:20Tom Ellsworth?

  That's what I think.

• 56:20Patrick Bet-David?

  Iran target, Iran strikes on more than two dozen US bases in the Middle East, focused on early warning systems before hitting aircraft and buildings, causing billions of dollars in equipment damage, according to an associate press analysis. The AP independently verified damage using satellite imagery from multiple providers. Through August, more than 115 drones or missile strikes claimed by Iran or Iranian-backed militias damaged or destroyed structures on 26 military bases and other sites with US equipment. The damage has significantly reshaped the American foothold in the Middle East, with two regional officials saying that US has moved many of its assets out of Persian Gulf. It raises questions about American defenses as Trump considers new strikes after Tuesday's midterm election.

• 57:00Patrick Bet-David?

  And Tehran has vowed major retaliation. Most of the attacks have been in Kuwait, where six soldiers were killed. In a drone strike at Port Shaubat on March 1st, a radar hit Jordan was said to be destroyed. It was one of only 13 possessed by the army globally. Manufacturer Raytheon said, and each cost about a half a billion dollars. Pentagon spokesperson Sean Parnell asserted that US forces and bases are well protected. Andrew.

• 57:27Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, the only thing that I would add is, any of you guys remember the Stuksnet virus? That was a big deal where the Israelis sent a virus over to Iran, which attacked their centrifuges. What it did is it increased their speed over time until they ripped themselves to pieces. The Iranians developed the best counter cyber, you know, group on planet Earth, even better than the Israelis. So chances are actually good if there's mass retaliation from the Iranians, it'll be some sort of cyber attack, a massive cyber attack. That would be the way that I would do it, to strike at the heart of the beast. What this is, what Patrick's outlining is how they could strike domestically with missiles, things like that.

• 58:11Speaker 04

  That actually wouldn't be nearly as effective as attacking the heart of the beast, as far as a political victory would go.

• 58:17Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. And by the way, I want to throw a curveball out there with a super chat that we just got right now. And here's what it says, let me pull it up for you and read it to you. It's from Galileo Lopez 5081. Iran will go nuclear on Iran and blame Israel. That would gain the support of all Islam and the United States turning its back on Israel. Book of Revelations unfolds. Now, you can call it extremely going deep, but your thoughts on what could happen with Iran?

• 58:44Speaker 04

  I think Iran is very much just trying to play this game of asymmetrical warfare. Cheap for them, expensive for us. They're trying to make the war as unpalatable as possible. Their goal isn't victory, their goal's survival at the expense of as much chaos as possible. That's how they essentially win this. They are rebuilding behind the scenes. Their long-term goal is obviously longer-range ballistic missiles. And I agree 100% that the worst attack we could experience would be some kind of cyber attack on our infrastructure that causes major, major. I would argue we've already been experiencing it. So on X and other places like this, where none of that information is censored anymore. So it used to be censored on Twitter. You could get access to Iranian state military direct messages.

• 59:24Speaker 04

  I would actually argue that their cyber campaign for pro-Iranian propaganda has been excellent, beyond excellent. And Israel, on the other hand, has had the worst PR campaign that I've ever seen. It's always had. But it's worse now than I've ever seen it. Yeah, they've completely lost touch with the message. Yeah, and the Iranians are doing quite well, and they flood the entire zone with information and misinformation. And before you know it, that goes from being lore to being something that people believe. We're talking about, you know, how all the schoolgirls who die, is that true? We still don't know if that's true. So, but in the minds cemented of many people, it is, even if it's not.

• 1:00:09Speaker 04

  So I would argue that they've already been doing these attacks very successfully. I would argue Israel has already been doing those counterattacks very unsuccessfully, all using propaganda, state media.

• 1:00:19Patrick Bet-David?

  I want to get to this next story. And this next story to me is where, when you think about Europe, what is the one country in the EU that's been dominating and been left out of all the crisis that UK is experiencing, Germany's experiencing, France is... Poland, right? Dominic Targinsky was here last week, be like Poland. And story comes out about what's going on in Poland with the constitutional crisis. If you want to pull up the video that you have of Dominic responding, I'll read the story to you and then we'll go to the video and we'll react to it. Now, keep in mind, this is a country that has had the lowest unemployment rate, the lowest rape percentage out of all the EU countries. Their borders are tight. There's a video last week showing Muslims across the border saying, hey, let us in, let us in, let us in. My wife's about to die, my wife's about to die.

• 1:01:04Patrick Bet-David?

  No, you can't come here. Then one guy says, shoot me. And the Polish soldier, oh, you want me to shoot you? Boom, he shoots him, right? With the pellet gun, but he shoots him and drops him. Ah, ah, ah, you hear him crying like that. And then story comes out with Poland. Polish president turns plane around after coup at nation's top court. While en route to Senegal, Poland president Karol Nowrowski turned his plane around and returned home after police entered Poland's top court, a constitutional tribunal, and the tribunal's president was suspended at such a moment the president must be in Poland. Now, Nowrowski posted on X, I'm interrupting my flight to Senegal. I'm returning police secured tribunal after dozens of protesters gathered to demonstrate

• 1:01:46Patrick Bet-David?

  against what they call the wrongful suspension of the top courts. President, restoring the rule of law is our duty, said Tusk, who returned to power in 2023 after a promise to restore the judiciary independence after years of PIS lawlessness. This is a difficult process, sometimes painful, and it requires decision, decisive action. It's true, coup d'etat is underway, said the PIS Justice Minister Zoborow. This is a blatant criminal attack, unconstitutional order. This is why I call for resistance that will be loud, firm, solitary, and fearless, said the former prime minister. Justice cannot be achieved through violence, adding that Tusk will stop at nothing to cling to power.

• 1:02:29Patrick Bet-David?

  US Ambassador to Poland Tom Rose called the events very serious indeed. Can you pull up the clip by Dominic Targinsky and then I'll come to you guys. Go for it.

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• 1:05:28Speaker 02

  They want to get us into the Eurozone because they are pushed by Germans. Also, they want to get rid of our secure borders because Germans want to spread illegals and they want to send them to Poland. So the...

• 1:05:42Patrick Bet-David?

  What they want to do, first of all, Polish currency is loty by the constitution is our currency. They have to change the constitution without tribunal court, without constitutional court. They cannot do it. So number one, they want to get rid of Polish currency. They want, they want us to get Euro and get into the Eurozone and then take our gold, the biggest reserve in European Union to Frankfurt, to European Central Bank, German bank. They want to open the borders and they want to make sure that when they're gonna lose, because we've got elections next year, tribunal court, constitutional court will do nothing

• 1:06:25Patrick Bet-David?

  against what is going, what is going to happen. So there's much more reasons, but I want you to understand. Tom, your thoughts on this? What's going on here with Poland?

• 1:06:34Tom Ellsworth?

  So there's two things going on with Poland. One of them is EU and the other is liberalism. On the EU side, guess what? Poland is a, is a thriving manufacturing economy. And so EU needs additional tax dollars. EU has got a huge problem right now with tax dollars. So they need more taxpayers from a stable economy. Hey, why don't we bring Poland into the club or force them into the club? Number one. Number two, the Germans right now have 11,000, 11,000 illegals that they've identified as criminal and they want to move them someplace. So Dominic is correct. The Germans want anywhere but here. Why?

• 1:07:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Because conservatives have been winning German elections. And so now the people in Germany have even gone, oh, wait, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, we went a little too far here. All of a sudden, the election goes a little bit more conservative, a little bit more right, AFD. Wait a minute, wait a minute. And so, hey, if we bring Poland into EU, we get tax dollars, we get, and by the way, see gold reserves, if they declare them, that they declare against their currency and it's, it's Eurozone, they, they say, okay, we'll do the reserves. We'll move all your gold reserves to Frankfurt. So it's EU economic, but then it's also, you know, it's more land and more area. And even German is, Germany quietly navel gazing in the corner is saying, man, we really screwed up this immigrant thing. We had 11,000 that we're trying to move.

• 1:08:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Andrew.

• 1:08:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm going to be totally honest with you. I've been trying to figure this out since it happened and I'm not actually any closer to figuring it out. So this is actually really complex. The Polish parliamentary system and what's been going on has been very complex. So I've been trying to decode it. But my understanding essentially is that the, the Supreme Court that's, or what they consider their Supreme Court, their tribunal, that the left and the EU wants control of that. But why they want control of that, that seems to be a massive issue here. So they, the right leaning party is saying, like he just did, hey, they want it because they want to remove the currency, they want the immigration.

• 1:08:50Tom Ellsworth?

  No, they want to harmonize the currency with the EU.

• 1:08:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, they want to pull it into the, yeah. But the left, but the, but the left view is what I'm looking at, right? The left view is, actually, we need it. We need, because, you know, the, the right are a bunch of traitors and it's all treason and we had to seize control of it. And I don't, I don't understand exactly how they're going to get by with this, though. I don't understand how they're, how, what was the idea to get away?

• 1:09:16Speaker 02

  Save democracy by taking over the tribunal.

• 1:09:19Speaker 04

  By taking over the tribunal, yeah.

• 1:09:20Speaker 02

  That's their whole pick.

• 1:09:21Tom Ellsworth?

  It's because, Andrew, they couldn't do it at the voting booth. They were unable to do it at the voting booth.

• 1:09:26Speaker 02

  Sounds familiar.

• 1:09:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Now you're seeing, now you're seeing a, a minority of the left freaking out and, and, Pat, what they're trying to do, they're trying to push the levers that they can push. And they're getting coverage by the media, they're getting coverage from EU, they're getting coverage from Ursula von der Leyen, you know, she, oh, good, now I get to rule over Poland's economy too. Fantastic. Christina Legard, oh, you have gold, we'll bring it over here and we'll do this with Central Bank. Yeah. Yeah, that's what they want. They want to bring it in. To, they need strength. Poland makes the EU stronger.

• 1:09:59Speaker 02

  Well, it'll destroy Poland in the process.

• 1:10:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Exactly.

• 1:10:02Speaker 02

  It's a, it's a parasitic ideology.

• 1:10:04Speaker 04

  Am I crazy in pointing out that, like, I didn't care about Polish politics, even a little bit?

• 1:10:09Speaker 02

  No, you're absolutely right.

• 1:10:10Speaker 04

  I couldn't, I couldn't name a single Polish politician because I didn't care about it.

• 1:10:14Speaker 02

  But there is a parallel to what we could see happen in our own country. We do see calls to pack the courts. We do see calls to, you know.

• 1:10:21Tom Ellsworth?

  If you can't do it one way, you do it another. So there are 13 Supreme Court justices.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  Well, look at, well, think about it. The president leaves on an airplane and you have, like, their Supreme Court just basically trying to do a coup and take over. And I understand what you're talking about because, like, we're like Poland, the only thing that I know about Poland is, I mean, I grew up around a lot of Polish people and, and Dominic, who I absolutely love. But if you notice, bro, the, what they're trying to do here is not that bold and that brash. You saw last week, they reported, all these videos came out from data Republican about the freaking coup that they're trying to do here with ex USAID members and ex military people that are trying to do it. In fact, like, I'm noticing, you guys see this trend? Look what's happening in Brazil, the riots in France, all this stuff in Albania, Italy, Spain, Portugal, but there's something happening. You know what I'm saying? Like, like, it's a, it's a movement and it's trying to undermine what people are voting for and what the establishment is.

• 1:11:10Speaker 04

  Yeah, but those.

• 1:11:11Tom Ellsworth?

  Globalists.

• 1:11:12Speaker 04

  Yeah, those have a lot to do with the public feeling betrayed by the mass migration that's been going on.

• 1:11:18Speaker 02

  Absolutely. But who's triggered, but who's, who's paying for all these people?

• 1:11:21Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me show this, though. Let me show this. To me, to me, a part of this is, so always go to concerns, motives, assumptions, fears, asks, okay? What, what is, who is hating Poland getting the amount of recognition that it's getting in the EU? Who's hating that?

• 1:11:38Speaker 02

  All the, the left and the globalists hate it.

• 1:11:40Patrick Bet-David?

  All the EU members who are sitting there saying, we can't have Poland win and have all these solid numbers. Why are you not letting immigration in? Don't make us look bad. Don't make us look like morons because we took immigration and you're the only one that's actually revealing the statistic that your rape is the lowest out of all the EU nations. Your crime is the lowest, your unemployment is, don't reveal that you don't let one Muslim in. Don't reveal that to anybody. You make us look bad, right? So they don't like that.

• 1:12:04Tom Ellsworth?

  It helps the right candidates in EU.

• 1:12:07Patrick Bet-David?

  So to me, to me, when you say, watch this, watch what happened here. Smart guy, Andrew, right? He says, why would I care about Poland? Most people are like, why would they care about Poland? You know who cares about Poland a lot? A guy named Barack Obama. Why does Barack Obama care about Poland? He's the face of the globalists, right? For, in, in America. He was just, five months ago, when we had Pete Buttigieg on here last week, I said, Pete, what were you guys doing at that closed door event in Canada where you, Slotkin, Obama, Mark Carney? What conversations were you guys having? What was going on over there? Watch what Obama had to say about Poland. Go for it.

• 1:12:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Here's a clip from Obama. I think you guys got it prepped. If you want to just go to it, you texted it to me.

• 1:12:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Obama. Anybody got a pack of Salem's?

• 1:12:50Patrick Bet-David?

  I've become increasingly concerned about the rising wave of authoritarianism sweeping the globe. Here we go. We're seeing politicians target civil society, undermine freedom of the press, weaponize the justice system. And no one is being spared. Even countries that thought they were immune from wholesale assaults on democracy now understand we're all part of this struggle. That's an enormous challenge, but it also means we can learn from each other. I recently sat down with three leaders who are part of the Obama Foundation's alumni network to discuss their work in Hungary and Poland, two countries on the leading edge of confronting autocracy.

• 1:13:33Patrick Bet-David?

  People like Stefania, Sandor, and Susanna, they give me hope.

• 1:13:42Patrick Bet-David?

  And it's why a big part of our mission here at the foundation is to connect, inspire, and empower leaders like them. You know, it's crazy. All three of you have been. So, so why would Obama be interested in Poland? Why would he be interested in Hungary? Are they in the way? Are they in the way of what you're trying to do? Why are you so worried about them? I mean, who wakes up in the morning thinking about Poland? Obama does.

• 1:14:02Speaker 04

  Well, I know why Hungary, I mean, because they're very ethnocentric.

• 1:14:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Yes.

• 1:14:06Speaker 04

  And so they, the, the idea of ethnocentrism inside of these European nations is a big problem for the European Union. Hungary actually is so right wing that they were instituting all sorts of, of tax policy for the women there to continue to have children because they wanted them to be Hungarian, right? That was the whole point. So I understand, I understand the argument for why it is that globalists would be interested in this and, and be focusing on it. It's just for me, I focus on domestic US policy. And so when you, when you bring up Poland, not a lot of commentators are focusing on European politics unless it's in Western Europe. So it's, this kind of hit everybody.

• 1:14:50Speaker 04

  Lots of people are scattering to figure out exactly what's going on there.

• 1:14:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, it's always, always pay attention to, why is Obama so interested? Why are they so interested in Carney? Why are they so interested in Poland? Why are you so interested in Hungary?

• 1:15:03Speaker 04

  The idea is a threat.

• 1:15:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Of course it is.

• 1:15:05Speaker 04

  And that, and it's so long as the idea exists, they're gonna, it's very Orwellian.

• 1:15:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:15:09Speaker 04

  You have to control thought. And if there's free thought out there that contradicts your worldview, you have to attack it and destroy it.

• 1:15:14Patrick Bet-David?

  And by the way, you know, by the way, you know, you know who they're going to target next? Watch who Obama and them are going to target next. Bukele, El Salvador.

• 1:15:22Speaker 04

  Hundred percent.

• 1:15:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Does what? He's got four of his people that go on a humanitarian trip in El Salvador. And while they're there, he says, listen, I'm going to send my people, we're going to get them back, there's nothing you can do about it. I don't know what page this one's on. But when they say that, if you can just text me whatever page it's on, he says, okay, no problem, page 20, by the way. He says, no problem. You know what I'm going to do? I'm going to send 2,000 people to Haiti.

• 1:15:47Speaker 04

  Soldiers.

• 1:15:47Patrick Bet-David?

  To rescue soldiers kidnapped by gangs. You're going to send how many? Forty? No, no. 400? No. 2,000?

• 1:15:55Speaker 04

  The most elite.

• 1:15:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the most elite. 2,000. El Salvador has flooded Haiti with more than 2,000 soldiers after gangs seized four of its troops. Bukele ordered to surge to recover the missing men, support local forces, battling armed groups. According to BDC, the four kidnapped soldiers worked as aviation technicians with the United Nations, backed gang suppression force. Gangs struck their armored vehicle on October 18th in Croix de Bouquet as they drove past the base. From a market, according to the Associated Press, Bukele has called the men hostages and pledges to return them home unarmed. A non-governmental organization later handed over four burned bodies, it said, were the missing men. Bukele rejected the claim, saying that the remains included a

• 1:16:38Patrick Bet-David?

  child and a body in another country's uniform. Bukele started to build up without a status of forces agreement with Haiti. According to the Miami Herald, Jean, a former Haitian Defense Ministry, questioned the legal footings of the troops. They need to have a legal framework, or else they are mercenaries. Okay, this guy's defending Haiti, by the way. Yes. He said, "Gang violence has killed more than 5,700 people in Haiti this year," according to UN figures. "The crisis has deepened since 2021 assassination of President Jovenel Moise." By the way, this is another person that the globalists are gonna hate, and they're gonna go after. Tom, your thoughts on this story?

• 1:17:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, first of all, here's the four burned bodies. These are there. Did you put them in the right uniform? Yeah, I'm pretty sure.

• 1:17:20Speaker 02

  What, one's a kid?

• 1:17:22Tom Ellsworth?

  It's like, it's a Swiss soldier uniform. Doggone it!

• 1:17:28Tom Ellsworth?

  You just ruined a perfectly good lie. So, the whole thing that's going on here is that it's all about, it's all about justice and might. And what the left does not like is when the other side has the ability to get justice with might. Because they use, they use less soldiers. Now Mao did, but I'm talking about right now. Right now, it's all about the protests at BLM, the protests around Michigan and around El Sayed. It's all about that. Protests you can create economically in New York with our good friend. So, you've got all of that going on. And for a guy that's got strength that says, "Do not make me come over there and bring my

• 1:18:11Tom Ellsworth?

  own guys, because you have no working government, you have, you have basically a puppet dictatorship, you're, you're a mess, you have no working civil defense. You know what? I'm gonna fly over there and get my guys back. Don't make me do that." The left hates that. They hate that.

• 1:18:27Speaker 02

  Come on, that's not, it's, by the way, it ballooned up to 2,500, and guys, that's

• 1:18:31Patrick Bet-David?

  Play the clip, play the clip.

• 1:18:32Speaker 02

  Four people, like that?

• 1:18:33Patrick Bet-David?

  This is damn.

• 1:18:34Speaker 02

  Pat, that's not a message, and just, like-

• 1:18:37Patrick Bet-David?

  How do you feel about that?

• 1:18:38Speaker 02

  I feel, well, I feel, okay, there's a such thing as overkill and all that type of stuff, but you know what that says to me if I'm an El Salvadorian, like, citizen? You know how good I feel knowing that the freaking leader of my-

• 1:18:48Patrick Bet-David?

  Obama hates this.

• 1:18:49Speaker 02

  I know, and guess what? And I hate Obama. Because thi- this, to me, like, they hated what he did with the prisons. They literally, all those prisons, they had all those people down like this, all those gangsters that are all murderers, they're like, they're not treating them fairly. Like, that's the left's attitude, is he's treating them inhumane, making them go with their heads down and stuff. But as a freaking, as a citizen, you know how good I feel that my leader's not only protecting us there, that if, God forbid, you go to another freaking crap-hole country with no government, all right, and you're trying to do humanitarian stuff, and the people there capture them and then try to kill them, guess what? We're coming to get you. And guys, think, the number, 2,500 people, do you understand how many people that is? Soldiers that are-

• 1:19:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Four people.

• 1:19:29Speaker 02

  That's, I freaking love it. Come get me.

• 1:19:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me ask you a question. Say he finds out definitely those four have been killed.

• 1:19:36Speaker 02

  Oh, it's not-

• 1:19:37Patrick Bet-David?

  What does he do?

• 1:19:37Speaker 02

  It's not good.

• 1:19:38Patrick Bet-David?

  And then, and then, but, but, by the way, the guy that criticized him, saying, "You cannot just send mercenaries to another country," I want you to think about this for a second. Because remember how the left is gonna use this?

• 1:19:47Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:19:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Remember how the globalists are gonna use this? Say he goes there, finds out the four are killed, and they're dead, his people that are killed. What does Bukele do? One? Number two, what does the UN, what does the world, NATO, what do people come out and say, "You can't just send people over there, this is an act of war"? What happens next?

• 1:20:06Speaker 04

  An act of war, that's two.

• 1:20:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, when you kidnap citizens of another country, that's already an act of war. That's an act of war. That's an act of war. So, and additionally, the gaslighting's crazy. It's always the person who's trying to defend their people who's, who's the mercenary, not the people who literally kidnapped four people from that country. I, I think what he does is he goes, he makes sure to track down and take out every person who was involved in it. And that's what he'll do, if they're, God forbid, dead. I think he'll just make a statement, and make sure that whoever was involved will be-

• 1:20:35Patrick Bet-David?

  You think you're sending 2,500 people just to find the people that-

• 1:20:38Speaker 02

  I don't think he's gonna start a ground invasion and start an entire boots on the ground. I just don't see the benefit at that point to-

• 1:20:44Tom Ellsworth?

  There's a precedent here. You know what this precedent is? This is how Bibi Netanyahu came to power. The raid on Entebbe, they went down to get 106 hostages on an airplane that were taken by seven hijackers. And then when they got to Uganda, the Uganda military surrounded the plane, celebrating the hijackers. And Israel said, "Give them back. Release them." "No, no cooperation from Uganda." It says, "You need to release that plane back here." "No." He says, "Okay, mother, here we come." And Israel came down there, killed all seven hijackers, three of the hostages were killed-

• 1:21:16Patrick Bet-David?

  Isn't that how his brother got killed as well?

• 1:21:18Tom Ellsworth?

  And there was one soldier lost, Yoni Netanyahu. And this is what brought, they say this is what put the fire in Bibi's heart, and also lifted him up, because he was seen as a hero leader of the group there. But they brought him down there. Dozens of Ugandan soldiers were killed, the number I can find is 23, so almost two dozen. Number one, three hostages killed in the crossfire, and all seven hijackers, and then they left out of there without any diplomatic discussions with Uganda. In, out.

• 1:21:51Speaker 04

  I'm not sure either that you can say that 2,500 is overkill. I'm not sure that they have intelligence for where their people are, and they may need to search a large area to try to figure out where their actual people are, so they may need the manpower. It doesn't seem like it's overkill to drop 2,500 people in if you're trying to find four if you don't know where they are. So-

• 1:22:11Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a little overkill.

• 1:22:12Speaker 02

  I'm not sure.

• 1:22:13Patrick Bet-David?

  It's a little overkill.

• 1:22:14Speaker 04

  I'm not sure.

• 1:22:15Patrick Bet-David?

  I get what you're saying. Listen, as a sovereign nation, you know, where you're like, hey, your job is to protect the country, if you're a Salvadorian, and that's what they did for you, you know what you're thinking about? Honey, go play outside as long as you want. He's gonna send a thousand people to come find you.

• 1:22:29Speaker 04

  Well, right, and the idea is for military morale, you know? Hey, if you take our, if you take our guys, we're not only gonna get them back, but we're probably gonna kill a bunch of you.

• 1:22:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah. Watch how they target Bukele next.

• 1:22:41Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:22:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Brace for impact.

• 1:22:43Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:22:43Patrick Bet-David?

  Watch how they target Bukele next, with everything that's going on here. It'd be, it'll be interesting to see what happens next with these guys. Let me get to the next story. Next one I wanna get to is the plane crash that took place 90 minutes after Trump left Mar-a-Lago. A plane flying, it's going from, it was going, I think, from Austin to Bahamas, if I'm not mistaken, to the Bahamas. And they climb a little too high, where the temperatures are extremely low. And I'm not gonna play the entire clip, but a video comes out where a female pilot is speaking about what's going on, and I want you to listen to her tone, her voice, because when you first showed this to me yesterday, I said it's AI. And then who showed it first? Mickey was showing it.

• 1:23:26Speaker 02

  Mickey showed it, and it was kinda blurry. It looked fake.

• 1:23:28Patrick Bet-David?

  And, and I want you to watch this, and we're not gonna play the entire audio, just listen to her tone, for the, again, viewer discretion, it's a, it's a little bit tough to listen to. So if you're not, you know, you may wanna pause if you're not, you don't wanna be disturbed, but I wanna play the first 30 seconds. Go for it.

• 1:23:42Speaker 06

  We're descending 8,000, mayday, mayday, we're descending 10,000 feet per minute. November 72 Bravo Delta, Roger. Declaring emergency, 722 Bravo Delta. We are in an oversea condition, descending 20,000 feet per minute. November 722 Bravo Delta, Roger. Out. If you're distressed, let me know what you need.

• 1:24:04Speaker 06

  Something just fell down.

• 1:24:08Speaker 06

  We're gonna crash into the ground, 722 Bravo Delta.

• 1:24:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Pause. Okay. We're gonna crash to the ground, she's reporting this, and a bunch of different theories came out of what happened. If you show the, the plane, because some people said where there is no plane, I didn't see any of the plane, any of the, that's the image of when you see where the planes are.

• 1:24:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's no, there's no plane there. And people don't, people are like, the wings and the, do you understand when you're going 700 miles an hour down, some of the tails flying off, some of the wings are ripping apart, and it just-

• 1:24:39Speaker 04

  It did, she lost, they lost the wing.

• 1:24:40Speaker 02

  And I, mind you, I don't know if she was the co-pilot, or she was actually piloting, because I think that there was a gentleman on there.

• 1:24:46Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:24:46Speaker 02

  And by the way, there is a little bit of audio, Pat, if I'm not mistaken, he was saying like, "Our Father," like, he's praying, from what I think I, I heard it there.

• 1:24:53Speaker 04

  He does.

• 1:24:54Speaker 02

  And "God rest all their souls, nine people." By the way, do you see that vehicle right there, Pat? That person is gone as well, because that thing hits right there. There's that white vehicle underneath there.

• 1:25:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Wait, a car got hit?

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  Well, look, look, look right-

• 1:25:06Speaker 04

  It was right near a trailer park or something.

• 1:25:07Speaker 02

  Yeah, near a trailer park top. You see that vehicle right underneath the pad?

• 1:25:10Tom Ellsworth?

  I didn't see reports of ground casualties.

• 1:25:12Patrick Bet-David?

  All I saw is nine from the plane. I didn't see any ground casualties.

• 1:25:15Speaker 02

  But it ju- it just drives me cra- it drives me crazy of all the clickbaiting vultures. I'm not even joking, it just happened, and people, I saw a connection of Epstein, like, a whole, a whole report. Epstein and somebody made a payment on a credit card that once flew on this thing, and I was like, "For the love of God," it was a plane that should not have been trying to fly over a, yesterday on the freeway, but people were stopped. People pulled over and stopped with their hazards on, it was so bad, it was blind. We couldn't see anything, bro. So now you're trying to fly over that-

• 1:25:49Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, yeah, yeah, from, from 10 to 1, it was-

• 1:25:52Speaker 02

  Horrible.

• 1:25:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Perennial rain in Fort Lauderdale.

• 1:25:54Speaker 02

  Horrible, horrible. Now, this, this pilot, they're trying to go above it, and when people are like, "Oh, it's ice," they're in Florida, and it's, and it's hot outside. I'm like, "You have no idea what the hell you're talking about." They were trying to climb to go over it. There was a bunch of mistakes made, it couldn't have been avoided, and then they got ice on the wings, and then they were coming down like a freaking, like a missile. They're coming out, they said, "That's how fast they're coming down." And everybody's like, "I need to see this, I wanna see that." People were picking up plane parts in their yard, in those backyards over there. And for all the people that don't-

• 1:26:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Press play.

• 1:26:24Speaker 02

  Yeah. People don't understand. People have to jump, it has to be, it has to be a conspiracy. How about a plane crashed, and you have no idea what the hell you're talking about? Okay? Aviation, it was on radio. Everybody was saying, the FAA, that this thing came down. But you can't live in reality. Everything has to be something. And I'm shocked that it had to go to Epstein. Like, how the hell does Epstein get involved with something like this, bro? It drives me crazy, Andrew.

• 1:26:48Patrick Bet-David?

  100 residents were evacuated, just so you know, from the surrounding neighborhood. Zero reported fatalities or injuries on the ground. Nine fatalities, it was a Learjet 60. $2 million plane that they were talking about happened approximately at 12:50, and like we said, it was going from Austin to Bahamas. Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 1:27:06Tom Ellsworth?

  So my thoughts, I, I immediately knew that within seconds, there's gonna be all these conspiracies. And what I started looking at was other pilots.

• 1:27:16Tom Ellsworth?

  Commercial airlines were diverted out of the area. That cell, you saw the National Weather Service, there was this huge cell that was there. And you can see the flight of the plane went right through or over the cell. And you had other pilots saying, hey, up at that level with that aircraft going through that cell, that's not smart. You can see right there, National Weather Service. And there's things that went right through the cell. And so, experts in this saying, if the wings iced up and the weight was wrong and the plane turned, it ends up in a, what they're trying, an overspeed and they have to do certain things. They said, once the plane's pointed down and was turning, that the instinct to pull

• 1:27:59Tom Ellsworth?

  up, doesn't pull up the nose, it causes the nose to turn further. And they, they say that was evidence that an inexperienced pilot trying to get out of that, pulling the nose up is what you instinctively do. But if you're down and sideways, when you pull the nose up, it makes you turn. Because you're flying sideways. And so, I was reading all this, I'm like, wow. And had other pilots saying, you should not have flown through that. Why were they? And he was asking, hey, why didn't they pick up on Tampa ATC or Orlando ATC? Did they tell them to maintain that heading? Well, that's my, that's the thing that confused me. Now, we're gonna wait, now, we're gonna wait and hear about that. But I was reading a lot of things that said this was pilot error.

• 1:28:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, you and I have been on flights where the pilot wants to be a cowboy, you know, a little bit of, hey, I got it.

• 1:28:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but if air traffic control doesn't clear you, you can't fly over that airspace. And I just saw a video from a pilot from United, who was in a commercial airliner, who was, went against air traffic control and said, I'm not flying through that. And they, they found him a new route. So, there's some kind of disconnect happening lately with.

• 1:29:05Patrick Bet-David?

  But that's what I'm saying, though, that validates my point, that there are pilots that are like, no, we got this. Like, we landed one time, Aspen.

• 1:29:12Tom Ellsworth?

  Oh, my god.

• 1:29:14Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me tell you, when we landed, do you know what the traffic controller tells Vinny? They're like, oh, you know, you're the, your plane, your pilot must be a cowboy, because why?

• 1:29:24Speaker 02

  He's the only, he's the only one that decided to land here. It's so bad, everybody else went to the next, the next airport. I go, wait, wait, wait, what?

• 1:29:33Patrick Bet-David?

  The way he hovered around a mountain, we were sitting there saying, what are you doing?

• 1:29:37Speaker 02

  Praying.

• 1:29:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Is this normal?

• 1:29:38Speaker 02

  Praying.

• 1:29:39Patrick Bet-David?

  We've been, I, I was on one flight coming back from Daytona, probably the worst flight of my life. And I landed with the pilot, I said, why did we go through if you knew there's lightning? We're in the middle of a lightning storm, landing in Fort Lauderdale. So, why did you go? No, this is not, I said, this is not normal. I fly, you know, private all the time. This has never happened before. So, sometimes pilots also go to a mode of, I got this, I know what I'm doing, I'm gonna take care of this, and then, stuff like this happens. It's tragic what happened, because nine people are now gonna see their family.

• 1:30:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. And, and can I just show, there's a video of an F4 Phantom, just, you know, like, the Air Force does all these exercises where they just, it hits into a brick, into a brick wall. I just, I just slacked you, Connor. I slacked you a video of a F4 Phantom. That's not it.

• 1:30:23Tom Ellsworth?

  Did the pilot eject?

• 1:30:25Speaker 02

  I just, I slacked it to, huh?

• 1:30:25Tom Ellsworth?

  Pilot ejected, or no?

• 1:30:26Speaker 02

  No, no, no, no, these are just total, just like, yeah, play this real quick, Connor. Like, look, look at this, this is just a Phantom, this isn't going 700 miles an hour, like, it's gone. It's gonna play again, watch this. Watch this. Like, see those little pieces? What wing? What, what are you guys talking about? You have no idea what the hell you're talking about? This thing is coming at, coming at, just, this is, mind you, this is a concrete wall. We're not talking about a freaking nosedive into a freaking street. Look at that, what's coming out the back? You're done. You're finished. Epstein, Epstein did that. That, this was all because of Epstein. Shut the hell up. Yeah, Ryan Motta and all these guys already like, you don't know what you're talking about. You're on the PBD Podcast crew, shut the hell up, bro.

• 1:31:09Tom Ellsworth?

  I saw a video the other day claiming that this ancient Japanese demon, Tautimu, is actually secretly Jews and Israelis. It's, it's, it's literally 1600-year-old demon, and it had millions of views. It's just, we're in a weird, bonkers world where.

• 1:31:25Speaker 02

  That was a demon.

• 1:31:26Tom Ellsworth?

  There he is. That's a, Tango, Tango, not that one.

• 1:31:29Patrick Bet-David?

  Please get it right, Tautimu is a.

• 1:31:30Tom Ellsworth?

  Tautimu's a website, yeah.

• 1:31:32Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. Alright, so let's go to the next, next, next one we want to get to is, can we do a positive story, yet funny story, kind of goes together? This Red Baron worker gets $400,000 after kids try to pull a prank on him for like $10, he knew the wallet sound. And he's like, what are you doing? And it, it ends up being a very good story. We got a bunch of other stories to go through, but I want you to watch us, go for it.

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• 1:34:28Speaker 02

  Dude, thank you, bro. I just took $10 out of this. You're doing nothing right now, okay? Huh? But I need it, but I need it real quick. Listen, dude, I am not aiming for this crap right now. Apple Pay? Dude, you can hear me? I just need to buy something real quick, though. You think this is funny, don't you? You're recording me right now? You're recording me right now? No, I'm a rabid. I'm gonna report you right now. Alright, bye, boss. Thank you for the $20, man. Appreciate it. Let's go outside, buddy. Are you for real, bro? It is not that deep. Oh, dude, I will destroy you. It is not that, I mean, if you really wanna go outside. You're recording me or not? I don't know what's going on here, but I don't need this to stop. It's not that deep, man. It was just a joke. You're just a little punk ass little bitch. It was just a joke, bro, it was just a joke. It was just a joke. No, it's not a joke to me, okay? I don't have time for this crap in my life.

• 1:35:13Speaker 02

  My life is hard enough as it is. Okay, I don't need this crap. I got kids at home that went to bed without me right now, and I was supposed to be at home an hour ago. And I'm still out here working, and I gotta get up at 5:00 in the morning and do 10 more stores. So, this is not a joke to me. And now, I'm probably gonna get kicked out of the store because of you! Not funny! Okay, I'm, I'm sorry, bro. No, you're not sorry. You're sorry, you got a smug look on your face. I'm sorry, bro, I'm sorry. I'm just like. I don't need this in my life! No, I, I get you, I don't. No, you don't! You're probably making money off this, I can't even pay my guy.

• 1:35:49Speaker 00

  mortgage and I got four kids at home.

• 1:35:52Patrick Bet-David?

  Wow.

• 1:35:53Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:35:53Speaker 00

  So not funny.

• 1:35:54Speaker 04

  Come on.

• 1:35:56Speaker 02

  I got you. I'm I'mma leave. I'mma leave.

• 1:35:58Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:35:59Speaker 00

  You better not be out there when I do leave.

• 1:36:01Speaker 04

  Leave. Go now.

• 1:36:04Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, so that that they're like.

• 1:36:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Was that security? Someone else saying?

• 1:36:08Patrick Bet-David?

  No, no, that's probably friends of theirs that are with them, right? That are standing right there. It's like, uh, we were not expecting something like this. Well, what does this turn into? This turns into them raising $400,000 after this took place. So Michigan Red Baron workers anguish plea over viral prank turns into $400,000 windfall. Go a little bit lower if you can. The man

• 1:36:31Patrick Bet-David?

  goes in there trying to get $10,000. Many viewers sided with the worker instead of the person filming and social media users began donating. In just two days, thousands of people gave amounts ranging from $10 to $30,000 to the father of four. Go a little bit lower. Uh, in the story and that fundraiser had passed $400,000 that last check and the goal has since been raised to $700,000. The counter, the person who filmed the encounter has been deactivated. The account of the person that filmed the encounter has been deactivated. But Tom, your thoughts on this?

• 1:37:02Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, that guy that was filming it is lucky that somebody didn't deactivate him. Um, this is not funny. You know, I think that we've entered a realm of social.

• 1:37:12Patrick Bet-David?

  It's up to $680,000 right now.

• 1:37:14Tom Ellsworth?

  Some, you know, you know what that shows? That shows that there's enough people out there that said, wow, this is messed up. That poor guy, that guy's working hard, stocking frozen pizzas, working for a food company, doing all this. And then these guys come in there and all they want to do is get their clip. And all they want to do is go make money as a so-called influencer with their clip. And sometimes you go and you put pranks on people you know, and you know what? I think some of those are funny. I've seen them. But if you go to people you don't know, you don't know what they're up against. You don't know what they've been going through. And I disagree when you're pranking people that you don't know what their situation is. You also don't know what their mental situation is.

• 1:37:58Tom Ellsworth?

  That you trigger somebody to do something terrible. So pranking friends and pranking things, their fails, we all think they're funny. We see them. I don't like this when you prank the anonymous.

• 1:38:08Patrick Bet-David?

  Tom, there's a big business model here. You would be, they they throw sand up. They throw rice seeds up and then put a bucket on top of the guy's head.

• 1:38:16Speaker 02

  I'm going to jail.

• 1:38:16Patrick Bet-David?

  They they they go in there with, you know, uh, uh, the farting thing that they do. They go in there with guys at Home Depot that have this.

• 1:38:24Tom Ellsworth?

  I know there's a big.

• 1:38:25Speaker 04

  There was a guy who was shot.

• 1:38:26Patrick Bet-David?

  Into in person.

• 1:38:27Speaker 04

  Uh, because the uh.

• 1:38:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys walk up to a guy, say, oh, my God, hey, Lamar Odom, what's up, man? And he gives the guy a hug. Oh, my God, my high school, you know, math teacher, come here, Ms. Jones.

• 1:38:37Tom Ellsworth?

  It's not me. It's not me.

• 1:38:39Patrick Bet-David?

  But let me tell you.

• 1:38:39Tom Ellsworth?

  But at some point in time, someone's going to get a nine millimeter lobotomy, you know?

• 1:38:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:38:43Speaker 04

  It happened. They already have. They already have gotten.

• 1:38:45Speaker 02

  And they got off.

• 1:38:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Red Baron Pizza ends up winning here. They tweeted out saying the employee of the month nominations are closed. You know why? He's still here. He's got a fan club, including us. Look how many views this thing gets. 8.2 million.

• 1:38:59Speaker 04

  Smart move by Red Baron.

• 1:39:00Patrick Bet-David?

  Oh, can we read the comment section? I actually want to know how people reacted to it. Go a little bit lower if you can on the tweet. I want to know how Red Baron turned this around. The guy was worried. $680,000. If this thing continues by next week, he's going to buy Red Baron. He's going to be to steal the company. Go a little bit lower. Watch this here. So not retarded. Well done. Well done. Well deserved kings. Well done. One more step, please.

• 1:39:24Speaker 04

  That's amazing. That's proper use of AI.

• 1:39:26Speaker 02

  Pepperoni pizza.

• 1:39:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Go a little bit lower. America's back. My favorite employee. All of us. Yeah. Remember that movie Falling Down?

• 1:39:33Speaker 04

  That's very much what it reminded me of.

• 1:39:36Tom Ellsworth?

  How much is that?

• 1:39:37Speaker 04

  Great movie, by the way.

• 1:39:38Patrick Bet-David?

  That's a very good movie.

• 1:39:39Speaker 02

  Listen, I'm I'm gonna.

• 1:39:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Movie to watch today.

• 1:39:42Speaker 02

  I'm going to be on the opposite side of this. This is probably the greatest thing that's ever happened to a meeting. It took one idiot with his friends that record you and you won the lottery. Think about it. I know people that go back by scratchers at Publix and they're playing lottery. You were in the right place at the right time for some idiot to try to make you look stupid and you took that moment and like just like, bro, the the emotion and everything behind it. I mean, that guy, bro, it's probably going to get to a million dollars because of somebody's idiot prank.

• 1:40:10Patrick Bet-David?

  Guys buying a Lamborghini.

• 1:40:11Speaker 02

  He's gonna buy a la- but pizza my ass. He's done.

• 1:40:14Speaker 04

  Well, if it's the reason that this, I know exactly why this went so viral and why he did so well. Because that initial approach, how nice he was.

• 1:40:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was genuine.

• 1:40:24Speaker 04

  How nice he was. So the initial approach, they come over and they're like, hey, man.

• 1:40:28Speaker 02

  Hey.

• 1:40:28Speaker 04

  You know, what does he do? He turns over with a smile? What? What can I help you with?

• 1:40:32Speaker 02

  Very innocent.

• 1:40:33Speaker 04

  What can I do for you?

• 1:40:34Speaker 02

  Yes, being helpful.

• 1:40:35Speaker 04

  Doing, and so.

• 1:40:36Patrick Bet-David?

  Kevin yesterday, Scott yesterday from Bass.

• 1:40:40Speaker 04

  To, yeah, to see him do that switch.

• 1:40:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah.

• 1:40:43Speaker 04

  Where he then gets angry and upset. He's like, he just stole money from me.

• 1:40:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, what are you doing?

• 1:40:48Speaker 04

  What are you doing? You crazy?

• 1:40:49Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, Vivek Ramaswamy gave $38,000.

• 1:40:52Speaker 02

  Are you serious?

• 1:40:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Is that true?

• 1:40:54Speaker 02

  Vivek and a poor Ramaswamy.

• 1:40:56Patrick Bet-David?

  Gave $38,000. $760,000 now raised.

• 1:41:01Speaker 02

  Wow.

• 1:41:01Patrick Bet-David?

  FYI. So the other day, I.

• 1:41:03Tom Ellsworth?

  But only on the vegan, only on the vegan pizza products.

• 1:41:07Patrick Bet-David?

  By the way, so so I go to this Publix and at this Publix down the street, they have somebody who is Down Syndrome who works there, which by the way, that's actually very good, but one, one time I go there, the person snapped on me. I'm like, with Jen, I'm like, what, what was? I was so confused. Okay, then Vinnie tells me a story and I'm like, there is no way these this Publix is the same one. Go ahead, Vinnie. What happens with you? Great story.

• 1:41:30Speaker 02

  One of my best friends, his name is Arthur, my cousin Mike's listening to this right now in Cali. His name is Arthur. He has Down Syndrome, like the purest, loving, awesome person I've ever met. So when I moved here and I was going to Publix, um, and I, by the way, I miss my freaking friends. So I see a girl at the end and she has like one of those stations. She works at at Publix. She has like one of those granola sample, Nature Valley. And I see her and I'm like, oh, I'm like, I have to go talk to her. I have to get, I have to go see what's going on. So I come up to her really, really like, hi. I go, hi, whatever her name was. I'm like, what do you got there? You got some granola? Bro, she came at me and she goes like this, I'm gonna stop you right there. I have a boyfriend. I go, what the hell?

• 1:42:08Speaker 02

  I go, wait, wait, wait. I go, no, it's not like that. She's like, okay, whatever. And I'm like, wait. And as I'm like, trying to explain myself, I'm like, no, my friend has Down Syndrome. Her boyfriend shows up that works there. He has Down Syndrome. He's like, is there a problem? I'm like, what the hell is going on here? They were trying to attack me. It was hilarious.

• 1:42:27Speaker 04

  Part of that story is that you got shot down by a chick with Down.

• 1:42:29Speaker 02

  I got shot down. That's the glaring, that's the glaring. Or even deeper.

• 1:42:33Patrick Bet-David?

  Truth is out.

• 1:42:34Speaker 02

  People are trying to holler at her every day. You know what I mean?

• 1:42:36Patrick Bet-David?

  So anyways, a good story, but I respect to this guy for getting 760 and Vivek putting 38. Let's see if he's.

• 1:42:43Speaker 02

  Shout out.

• 1:42:44Patrick Bet-David?

  If that's going to help him out on the backlash he got for that Amy Acton video.

• 1:42:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:42:47Patrick Bet-David?

  Which, uh, we'll see. All right. Next story I want to get into.

• 1:42:50Speaker 04

  After you just highlighted it, he'll probably get another 100,000, right?

• 1:42:53Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, yeah. He's about to get some more money as well, which is great. I love hearing stories like this. Next story I want to get into is these oil giants, which by the way, you know, you keep hearing the oil gas prices being blamed on the president, which by the way, that's the easiest thing to do. However, a report comes out, which is like, wait a minute, what? Oil giants post billions in profits, record-breaking profits as Americans feel the pain at the pump. You mean to tell me you don't have to charge, you know, the gas prices as high as you are and you're just taking in the profits? Well, let me read this to you.

• 1:43:30Patrick Bet-David?

  On what's going on here. U.S. Oil Giants raked in billions of dollars in profits in the third quarter as oil prices surged amid supply constraints caused by conflicts around the world contributing to higher prices at the pump for consumers. ExxonMobil, the largest oil producer, reported having more revenue from refining operations than from its exploration and drilling operations in the first six years. Chevron's third quarter downstream earnings also reached their highest point over the same timeframe. The surge in revenue for oil giants comes as Americans are faced with higher prices at the gasoline war in U.S. of oil flows, Middle East, AAA showed that the national average price of gallon of regular gas was 420 gallon on Friday, well above the average of 303.

• 1:44:12Patrick Bet-David?

  Diesel prices have also reached the highest recorded from last Monday, reached 652 gallon on September 22nd. The September Consumer Price Index found that the gas prices surged 9.1% on a monthly basis and were up 34.2 from a year ago. Tom, could they have the possibility of selling it less, but they're not because they're capitalizing off the crisis to take in the profits?

• 1:44:34Tom Ellsworth?

  There's yes and no. There are two parts to this. The first part to this is we have to understand what's going on. It's the, um, Shell reported that the refining margin, what they make on refining $42 a barrel was the big, big one. Their product segment, so making oil into product earned, ready for this? 3.86 billion versus 550 million a year before. That's 6X. Let me tell you why. There are two supporting legs. One is, yes, they pay more for the oil and then they have the crack spread, 321 crack, um, which is, uh, three barrels of oil, two barrels of gas come out of it, one barrel of diesel, roughly 33%.

• 1:45:19Tom Ellsworth?

  Uh, the majority that came out of that, yeah, and this is, this is a bad scale here. Go back one year, go back one year. Now you can see the scale where it was. It was $27 before the war started, to be exact. And now look where it is. It's double that. Yep. 2693. I was right. So now it's refinery. Remember when I said 5% of the U.S. refinery were offline because of, um, Phillips 66 and Valero in California because of regulation? And that Gavin Newsom's fingerprints are at least on the Benicia refinery? And then there was a U.S. refinery in Houston that was just too expensive to to rebuild and so they eventually shut it down. So that had nothing to do with Gavin Newsom. That was 5%.

• 1:46:04Tom Ellsworth?

  Do you know with what we've seen today with all this, um, that's been going on and with Ukraine? It's not just the war in the, with Iran. It's also Ukraine hitting Russian refineries since February 28th.

• 1:46:22Tom Ellsworth?

  10% of the refinery capacity in the world has gone offline. 10%. And guess what? The refineries that are still open, the going rate, the market rate has gone up, Pat, and they're paying overtime and they're doing what's called running hot. They're running the refineries at maximum capacity and they're paying overtime on labor. There are real costs in there. But the refineries are charging it. So it's not the barrel of oil as much as it is the refinery costs. And the refiners are charging it. And you see what happened with Shell. $550 a year ago and 3.86 billion now. So we need to understand, we have refinery costs here more than the barrel of oil, although

• 1:47:07Tom Ellsworth?

  the barrel of oil is not helping. And if you're, if you have refinery capacity going, guess what? The market price around the world, not just Shell, has gone up. But I would have hoped that the US providers would have found a way to A, profit, but also kind of help the consumer a little bit. To Shell's credit, and the only thing I'll say to Shell's credit, they threw a ton of money back at the shareholder in form of dividends and stock repurchases. So a lot of it got to the shareholders of Shell, but that's the shareholders. Meanwhile, the consumers are feeling the pain at the pump as a result of the global,

• 1:47:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I call it a global refinery crisis, more than I call it a global oil crisis right now.

• 1:47:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's, I mean, that's what happened with Russia and diesel, right? That was all the refinement process, the Ukrainians.

• 1:47:59Tom Ellsworth?

  What was Trump asking? Don't hit the diesel.

• 1:48:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, don't hit the diesel. But that's why the price is skyrocketing. It's really interesting because Rockefeller Standard Oil made all of its money through refinement. And a lot of these warhawks, yeah, a lot of the warhawks actually made a lot of their money, not in selling the crude, but in refining it. So it actually doesn't surprise me. The very first question I was going to ask you when this came up is, is this from the sell per barrel or from refinement? But you answered it for me immediately, so it doesn't surprise me at all.

• 1:48:30Tom Ellsworth?

  I got a question though. If they're posting billions in profits, I mean, regardless of how much the price increases, they're still taking advantage of the situation to some extent, no?

• 1:48:39Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, it's the timing. It's the timing of the way it flows. Like when you, you know the whole dollar cost averaging concept? You know what dollar cost averaging is? So dollar cost averaging is, you know, you sit down with a financial advisor, they'll tell you, well, these are the basic three things you need to do. One of the things they'll talk about is dollar cost averaging. So put $500 a month into mutual fund or the stock market every month. Market's down, you'll get it at a discount. Market's up, you pay a little bit more. But eventually you're going to dollar cost average of the stocks you're buying, right? So what the oil industry is going through, and correct me on this one if I'm wrong, Tom, is when they buy it low and goes up, that makes their profits be very good. But when they, the work for it is high and all of a sudden there's a massive drop, they're losing money there as well.

• 1:49:24Patrick Bet-David?

  So that season makes up for this season and it kind of eventually ends up breaking.

• 1:49:28Speaker 04

  Makes sense.

• 1:49:28Patrick Bet-David?

  You know, breaking even. And that may be a three-year season that this could happen with. Tom, would you add anything to that?

• 1:49:34Tom Ellsworth?

  Absolutely. And Shell even said, they said, caution for the future. Once the conflicts are resolved, our profits are going to return to a different level. And to sustain their stock price, they bought 5 billion of stock off the market. Fewer shares on the market, it's going to hold a higher price when the profits go back to a different place.

• 1:49:54Speaker 04

  Yeah, but what do you do about offsetting refineries that get destroyed? I mean, how long does it take to really get new refineries up and running? I mean, that could take several years, right?

• 1:50:05Tom Ellsworth?

  The last super refinery in the United States, help me on this, Connor, the last super refinery in the United States was built 47 years ago.

• 1:50:12Patrick Bet-David?

  How long ago?

• 1:50:15Speaker 04

  47 years.

• 1:50:16Patrick Bet-David?

  47 years ago. Wow.

• 1:50:17Tom Ellsworth?

  There it is. Came online in 1976. Marathon's facility in Garyville, Louisiana.

• 1:50:23Patrick Bet-David?

  There you go. That tells you the story. Okay, all right. So next story I want to get to is kind of tied to what you guys just talked about. And it's a story that's not getting a lot of attention right now because of what's going on with midterms, but I do believe there's some sequencing that's going on with this. And that's Putin warning Russia is ready for war with Europe and could turn Baltic Sea into second Strait of Hormuz. Russia does not want a war with Europe, but if Western nations keep attempting to inflict a strategic defeat on Moscow, they may get one. Vladimir Putin has threatened Putin, has threatened, Putin made remarks about relations with the Europe states during the Russia-Africa summit in Moscow on Thursday, claiming to be a dove of peace while threatening a world war like conflict if he is left to pursue

• 1:51:08Patrick Bet-David?

  his, if he isn't left to pursue his own strategic interests. This is a Breitbart story. Many people are talking about preparing for war by 2030. Is this right or wrong? First of all, we prepare. We are prepared, but we do not want any war with Europe. As for them, if someone wants it, let them prepare. However, they failed to inflict a strategic defeat on Russia this time, and it is unlikely to become possible by 2030. Putin pointed to Iran war as he threatened a second Gulf crisis in Europe's Northern Sea, the Baltic. He said, there will be a situation similar to the situation in the Strait of Hormuz. Does anyone want the same situation to develop in the Baltic Sea as the Persian Gulf or the Strait of Hormuz? I don't know.

• 1:51:51Patrick Bet-David?

  We don't want that, but we will respond to any challenge. And US tells NATO allies to put them on notice on tone down the anti-Russia rhetoric. So Tom, where are you at with this? Is there something going on here that, because you know, just a few weeks back, they brokered that oil deal with Russia and then Trump is like, well, leave them alone. And then he went to Zelensky and says, Zelensky, I think we need to find somebody else to take over powers. Like, what are you talking about? There was a moment of like 72 hours where US was more supportive of Russia than they were at Ukraine. Tom, is there something going on here?

• 1:52:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, well, so it's basically two things. Putin is yelling down the hall at the noisy kids. I told you to go to bed. Don't make me walk down there. Right? Number one, he's kind of got the dad voice going on here. But you have to remember this, the Baltic cuts both ways. He, who sells 62% of the LNG, which is the primary energy for heating in Europe? Who sells some of that? We do. The United States sells EU 62% of LNG. So guess what? So if they want to, if you get, if EU gets out of line, be like, guys, if I raise the price or I sell less of it to you, you guys are in trouble. Number one.

• 1:53:05Tom Ellsworth?

  Number two, what do you think Russia is financing the war with? Energy exports. So they're going to sit there and say, well, if this war goes up, you won't get your energy. And they're like, well, don't worry about it. We're getting 62% of the LNG from the United States. They have additional capacity, as does Canada, number one. Number two, so you're saying that if you start the war with us or you start a conflict or a blockade with us, you're not going to get the dollars you need to keep fighting in Ukraine? I'll tell you what, winter's coming, but go block Baltic. It's a two-sided sword there. I think it's, I think it's brinksmanship on the, on the part of Putin, because it's a two-sided sword.

• 1:53:46Tom Ellsworth?

  What's he going to do when he cuts off the, the dollars for the export of energy to Northern Europe?

• 1:53:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, but he makes threats like this weekly. I mean, weekly.

• 1:53:55Tom Ellsworth?

  Kind of my point, like dad yelling down the hall. Don't make me walk down the hall, kids. You're supposed to be in bed.

• 1:54:00Speaker 04

  He's been doing this.

• 1:54:01Tom Ellsworth?

  Lights out.

• 1:54:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's been doing this weekly, especially the last year and a half as it's emerged that Russia's a paper tiger.

• 1:54:07Tom Ellsworth?

  That's why I call it dad mode.

• 1:54:08Speaker 04

  Yeah, I mean, it's total, total paper tiger. It doesn't have the resources to even do anything like that anyway. It's, it's, it's running everything into a meat grinder, just over and over and over. It's all of its resources into a meat grinder.

• 1:54:20Tom Ellsworth?

  I'm just always stuck on that we need to find an off-ramp for the Russia-Ukraine situation. It's just so prolonged and ongoing. It's not benefiting anyone.

• 1:54:28Speaker 04

  But why though?

• 1:54:29Tom Ellsworth?

  So why do we need?

• 1:54:30Speaker 04

  Yeah, well, hang on. Let me, let me give an argument here. And this, I, I heard this argument I thought was pretty good. If all the United States has to do is send over a few billion dollars to Ukraine in order to keep Russia continuously bogged down in a conflict there where they're sending their people into a meat grinder, shouldn't we?

• 1:54:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, that's the Ben Shapiro argument.

• 1:54:49Speaker 04

  Like, don't we not, don't we not want to stop it?

• 1:54:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Ben Shapiro from the start was, the, the benefit for us in supporting Ukraine is tremendous in terms of costs very little, no boots on the ground, we don't have any type of like real involvement, and we're able to weaken Russia tremendously. I understand that, but to what extent? At what point does that stop being a cost? To be

• 1:55:09Speaker 04

  Well, what would the argument be against it? It seems from a like from a geopolitical standpoint that we would just want that perpetually.

• 1:55:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, I just think fundamentally it leads to more destabilization in the world when there's active conflict. I mean, and even just on an ethical level, if you can off-ramp a war into some state of kind of

• 1:55:24Speaker 04

  But how would weakening Russia over years of having them run all their young men, their military aged men into a meat grinder destabilize

• 1:55:31Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, of course. They're just Well, no, it doesn't. It doesn't. You're right. So on that level, that's that's literally the that was the convincing argument that I heard from Ben Shapiro very early on in this that really resonated with me. But again, in my my head, for some reason, just the idea of active conflict, whether it's logical or not, doesn't resonate.

• 1:55:50Speaker 02

  Geopolitically, I agree. That's a great freaking angle. But what you're saying is, and from what I'm seeing, because I messed up and I was on X and I just saw one in the trench Russia-Ukraine war video and it was one of the most brutal things that I saw of how they're just kill everybody on both sides, killing each other. And then I saw a guy with that, like, speaking of Down Syndrome, a Down Syndrome guy just in there. And then I saw, because you know, the conscription that they're doing is just grabbing men that don't want to join, putting them in a van and they're going into the front lines. And I saw another one where they're training 65 to like 70 year old men, they're putting them with a gun and they're going, okay, in Russian, go run over there. Okay, now get down to the gun. Okay, he's good, he's trained. And they're going in.

• 1:56:34Speaker 02

  And I get it from the geopolitical standpoint, but just from a humanitarian, like, people are, and you nailed it, the meat, it's literally a meat grinder and people are dying and it's not like a couple of hundred, it's a million

• 1:56:46Speaker 04

  But who are the good guys here? Like, there's no good guys here. Ukraine's one of the most corrupt governments.

• 1:56:51Tom Ellsworth?

  It is a very corrupt

• 1:56:52Speaker 04

  In in, in what, the last 80 years?

• 1:56:56Tom Ellsworth?

  The good guys are the civilians who suffer unfortunately.

• 1:56:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, and Russia is a massive adversary.

• 1:57:00Speaker 02

  I get it. Oh, I get it.

• 1:57:01Speaker 04

  So it's like, how do we lose by having these countries perpetually killing each other? It seems like a geopolitical winner.

• 1:57:07Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, geopolitically, yes. Ethically or civilian cost or just the concept itself of

• 1:57:13Patrick Bet-David?

  Let me, logically, yes. Emotionally, remember the emotional, hey, that's not fair. What are you guys doing? But war is nasty. I mean, if they're gonna do it, they're gonna do it, you know. That's it's a similar position to a lot of people that are saying right now. This morning was like, hey, if anyone's gonna drop the nuclear bomb on Iran, let it be Israel, not US. Let us not have that blood on our hands because if somebody wants to have that attack, let them do it. Let them fight it out. They're the ones that are neighbors. That's what some positions some people are taking. But one of the things that we talked about a few weeks ago and I said, be careful if they go all of a sudden after the power grid and you have supermarkets that lose power. I think we talked about this like six weeks ago, four weeks ago. Well, guess what story just came out, Vinny? Look at this.

• 1:57:57Patrick Bet-David?

  Supermarket freezers across Europe hit by second suspected cyber attack. Tom, I don't know if you saw this one or not. Chains of at least seven countries say fridge temperatures rose mitten overnight. An incident similar to hack of French stores, go a little bit lower. Uh, supermarket chains in at least seven European countries have said that the temperatures of refrigerators and freezers in dozens of their stores soared overnight, prompting fears of cyber attacks similar to one that caused millions of euros of losses in France. Retailers in Belgium, Estonia, Ireland, Finland, Luxembourg, Netherlands and Sweden reported problems with the refrigeration system on Monday and several companies confirmed they had been victims of cyber attack.

• 1:58:39Patrick Bet-David?

  The incidents follow an attack in France last month in which hackers seized the control of the cooling units, Vinny. And as many as 700 supermarkets raising their temperatures of as high as 50 Celsius, 122 Fahrenheit, which you know what happens when it goes to that point, and causing fires and food losses estimated in the tens of millions of euros. A growing range of devices, including refrigeration, can now be monitored and controlled remotely. Remotely leading authorities to particular fear government sponsored hybrid attacks in the wake of Russia's 2022 invasion of Ukraine. So, Tom, when you see a story like this, somebody's living in Chicago, they're living in Palmdale, California, they're living in Mesa, Arizona.

• 1:59:23Patrick Bet-David?

  Should they be worried that something like this could happen in the States?

• 1:59:26Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes, and I'll tell you why. The supermarkets weren't attacked. It's had nothing to do with the supermarkets. This had everything to do with compromising the energy company because large commercial organizations and companies make deals with the energy companies to install smart thermostats. And if there is an extreme load, like if you go to Texas, there are office buildings where there's an extreme load, they will move the temperature from 72 to 74 to 76 degrees during the day when it's extremely hot outside to help take the load off the grid. Likewise, when your helpful representative at FPL says, you can have this Nest thermostat

• 2:00:09Tom Ellsworth?

  for free and you put it in your house, you're actually consenting to, because remember, it's got motion detection on it. If it detects that no one is home and no one is moved, it will gently move the the temperature of your house up if you've consented to that. And so what you have here is you have companies have given the power company in exchange for a rate, it's like a green energy plan that you allow it to turn up. They hacked the power company, I'm 99% certain. They hacked the power company so they could get into the control software that controlled the thermostats around there. Because imagine if it was, there was an extreme energy event and they moved the freezers from 28 to 32 degrees. What does that do to the frozen pizza? Nothing.

• 2:00:53Tom Ellsworth?

  But if they move that up just a little bit, it takes load off the power. So I think this or control systems, I think this was a power company. And I think the fact that the news media calls it grocery stores misses the fact that when you got water systems and power systems that get attacked, that's what I get concerned about. So this is where the hacks I get concerned in the US is the ability

• 2:01:16Patrick Bet-David?

  All right, so let me ask you this. What do you do as a business owner? So go to, my concern is, I'm a, I'm a, like, you know, in, we're in the insurance space, we've been in insurance space for a couple of decades, I've been in it for a couple of decades. And you buy homeowners and you buy flood insurance, you buy earthquake insurance, you buy cyber

• 2:01:32Speaker 04

  You insure over liability.

• 2:01:33Patrick Bet-David?

  All the liabilities that you're dealing with, you buy that, right? So in this case, in this case, what do you do if you are not the city, the municipality that controls the power that you're borrowing from or you're buying from? What do you do to make sure they're protected and you're protected?

• 2:01:48Tom Ellsworth?

  I checked my cyber insurance policy that says, look, if my, if my power company or the thermostats they gave me to use or the systems that they, I agreed to let them tap into are compromised and I lose $300,000 of perishable meats because the meat and fish goes up too high of a temperature and now I have to dispose of it. It says, make sure that the fine print on your cyber insurance policy covers that.

• 2:02:13Speaker 04

  Well, they have spoilage insurance, too.

• 2:02:14Patrick Bet-David?

  That's bigger than that. I know the spoilage insurance, but I'm, forget about the spoilage insurance. If, like, for instance, last week, we had a power outage here in Fort Lauderdale. It was in our mistake, something blew up down the street, literally down the street. Transformer blew up. Well, guess what happened to our AC units? We, our AC units, you know, there was smoke, fire. You know, we had like seven fire trucks, I think I'm saying maybe eight fire trucks that were here.

• 2:02:38Tom Ellsworth?

  The generator, everything

• 2:02:38Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, the generator, all of that.

• 2:02:40Tom Ellsworth?

  We had an overheating caused by the

• 2:02:42Patrick Bet-David?

  But we didn't do anything. We have, we have everything they need to have properly here, but the city made the mistake. So now if the enemy, and this, this is the part of the story that people are talking about right now where it's like, hey, if the, if the power grid, if the enemy Iran, they're threatening with grid, if the grid was attacked and say they were able to get into different cities and they shut down the markets, temperature goes up, food supply for a week, what happens there? These are the concerns that people have, right? Because how are you protected?

• 2:03:14Tom Ellsworth?

  With supplier, are you talking about what happens to the actual owners of the businesses in terms of compensation?

• 2:03:18Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, no, it leads to the individual, the average human being, the average person that's going to the market, buy $800. He's panicking, saying, how are they protected from the city? And if I can cyber attack the city and that gets affected a supermarket, how are the cities protected? Are they, you know, typically when you think about cities, you think about the old system that they've been working on, not new system. How often do you go to a city and like, oh, wow, they have the latest, greatest stuff over here?

• 2:03:42Tom Ellsworth?

  You never say that at DMV.

• 2:03:44Patrick Bet-David?

  You never say that. So what does the average individual that's sitting here thinking, saying, is my city fully responsible? Is my city fully ready for this? What do you, what do you say to those people? Who reassure them?

• 2:03:55Speaker 04

  Well, you can't reassure them because it's unprecedented. So some things aren't. For instance, an entire section of the power grid in the United States going down, that's going to happen. That's just a matter of time. We don't know what will make it happen. If it's load or if it's, you know, environmental causes, you have no idea. That's something that we're still woefully unprepared for. By every metric, we're still woefully unprepared for that. But cyber, when you're talking about cyber attacks, you don't actually know how you're going to be hit, so it's really hard to compensate for it. Like, this whole idea that we'll just adjust thermostats up on freezer food.

• 2:04:32Tom Ellsworth?

  Quite brilliant, actually.

• 2:04:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's not a thing that most people think about. They're not like, oh, what if they did this? Until they actually do it. And so it's actually very, very difficult to compensate for that. So he says, check your cybersecurity insurance. It's like, I'm not sure many people are checking cybersecurity insurance, but I do think that other forms of insurance over liability will cover a lot of the damage of this. And the nice thing about the United States is it's on separate grids and we have the, one of the biggest infrastructures for food shipments on planet Earth. So it's not like we couldn't divert food from one area to another.

• 2:05:06Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:05:07Speaker 04

  But it would bog the system down badly.

• 2:05:09Tom Ellsworth?

  And if you have a mass scale attack, then it really would cause tremendous destabilization.

• 2:05:13Speaker 04

  Well, dropping, dropping the entire power grid seems very unlikely.

• 2:05:17Tom Ellsworth?

  You know, like, but I do worry about how AI is changing hacking in general. And I do think that we're gonna see more innovative And like different kind of attacks that we've never been able to compensate for like you're talking about unprecedented. We don't know until it happens.

• 2:05:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:05:34Tom Ellsworth?

  With the advent of how AI is advancing so quickly. I mean, it takes a couple more iterations before things we can't even imagine are starting to be used. And so it's just it. I don't see how you could plan in advance for it.

• 2:05:45Patrick Bet-David?

  You don't see how they how how you could build a defense against it?

• 2:05:49Speaker 04

  Well, you would use you would use AI the same exact way. So you would have AI predict what AI would do.

• 2:05:55Tom Ellsworth?

  No, but AI is far better. So you look at encryption, AI, AI would be far better. At decrypting something than at coming up with an encryption method that AI couldn't decrypt. In other words, like the the lag behind, especially with like, there's all these breakthroughs happening in AI now with algorithms and like the. Exponential time hypothesis being proven false and like they're looking into that. And there's a bunch of changes happening in terms of. How we may look at things that are encrypted and how quickly computers and AI will be able to make those things pretty much obsolete. And that's very, very scary.

• 2:06:29Patrick Bet-David?

  So I just asked the question right now. I said, which cities and states are most prepared for cyber attacks against supermarkets or the grid? Okay, number one highest grade they gave is Texas number one, A. Georgia, then Connecticut, Michigan, Utah, Ohio, Nevada, Iowa, Missouri, Hawaii, and Mississippi. Then if it's cities, DFW, Atlanta, Salt Lake City, DC, Miami, Fort Lauderdale, and then Houston. Then the questions ask if something were to happen, they did a survey on the chief information security of states. Only 26% of state chief information security officer, this is their CIO. Surveyed in 2026 that they were very or extremely confident their state's information assets were protected against their cyber threats.

• 2:07:13Patrick Bet-David?

  That's down from 48% in 2022. Let me say this one more time, Tom. I don't know if you heard that or not. So in 2022, the CIOs of states. You know what their job is, what a CIO does, right? The CIOs of states were 48% confident we're good with cybersecurity attacks and hitting our grid. We went from 48% four years ago to 22% today, 26% today.

• 2:07:35Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah. Where are we going to be in four years from now?

• 2:07:37Patrick Bet-David?

  Even worse.

• 2:07:38Tom Ellsworth?

  Yes.

• 2:07:38Patrick Bet-David?

  So then the the level of urgency for them to want to do something about this and fix it, they better get on top of it because. If the enemy hears something like that, guess what they're going to be saying? They're worse today than they were four years ago. Even their executives of their states are saying this.

• 2:07:52Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but again, the problem is that the fix isn't something that you could just come up with. There's technology advancing at exponential rates that are capable of doing things.

• 2:08:01Speaker 04

  It's also hard to guard against threats that you you don't really understand how they're going to hit you. So everything is guesswork. So let's say, let's say, Patrick, for instance, I come to you and I go, okay. I'm going to give you a $1 billion cyber defense budget, right? It's a lot of money. You go, okay, great. Well, what do you throw it at? So some things like maybe guarding from freezers getting hotter, right? You're able to fix that problem. So you throw half the budget at it or a quarter of the budget at it. But then you get hit in a way that you couldn't have foreseen. You spent all of that money on these other these other protection. You have no idea how you're going to get hit. So it's very hard to disperse it correctly.

• 2:08:41Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, and it's like a post, it's like a redundancy after the fact. After the attack happens, you can create the redundancy.

• 2:08:46Patrick Bet-David?

  Yeah, but but but let me tell you where I go with this. Where I go with this is if you think about a Musk, he moved from where? From California to Austin, Texas, right? Okay. Why is he putting $260 million into some of these elections that are taking place? The $250 million, whatever the number was, I think it was $200 million ish.

• 2:09:07Speaker 04

  Because of breakup X.

• 2:09:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, yeah, could be, that could be one of them. But it's also you have to sit there and think about the power, the protection. Is the city, is the state doing the best job to protect me against any of these things long term? These are real things that you got to be involved in. So I wonder if if if he's he's even involved. Uh, in Tesla's power walls and decentralized decentralized electricity. Tesla's working with Austin Energy on a virtual power plant, VPP. This concept is connected with thousands of homes equipped with Tesla Powerwall, so their batteries can provide electricity. So I think I knew you have to go independent to be away from the city. I think some companies are going to be like, I'm not going to deal with the city. That's where I'm going with this. I don't think the answer is, Andrew, well, you know, let's just have shit hit the fan first.

• 2:09:55Patrick Bet-David?

  And then we'll figure out a defense for it. I disagree. I actually think we got to get off, like I would want us to be off, so I'm not affected if you royally screw up.

• 2:10:03Speaker 04

  The strategy isn't just wait and see what happens. It's just, I'm just pointing out that it's very difficult to guard against those kinds of unknowns.

• 2:10:10Patrick Bet-David?

  I agree that it's difficult, but I think, you know, I think. To sit there as an operator, day to day operator. When an event like that happens and I had to move all my couple hundred employees from one place to another place, we lost three hours and. That's hard cost to the business. So you got to sit there and be thinking about how do you play? You know, defense against it and being proactive. Tommy, you look like you want to say something.

• 2:10:32Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I'm I'm I'm with you. Quiz time. Which state has got more renewable energy? You're going to know the answer when I give you the two choices, California or Texas?

• 2:10:42Patrick Bet-David?

  Texas.

• 2:10:42Tom Ellsworth?

  Why wouldn't it be green California? Oh, my gosh.

• 2:10:46Speaker 04

  Wind turbines suck.

• 2:10:47Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, guess what? When all the states were ranked, Texas received the only state to receive the excellent, excellent. Rating, but they got a poor rating on one area, emergency power sharing. Because Texas has isolated itself mostly because it didn't want the federal regulation that you get from sharing things across state lines. But in speed of adding power, Texas was rated excellent and renewable supply buffer, Texas was rated as excellent. This year, 2026, you didn't hear about ERCOT, which is the power organization in Texas. The Electric Reliability Council of Texas that had such issues before that dealt with the Enron outage.

• 2:11:31Tom Ellsworth?

  So guess what? Texas took a couple hits. Texas Texas had had some big summers. They're not out of the woods yet. But they're better off than most states. You know why, Pat? Because they took it in the chops over the last six years. And so they have been reacting first with the Texas CIO. So it's not just taxes in Texas, they're reacting better. But to your point, I kind of think it's good. That we see these things like the refrigerators and things happen now because you know who's going to be talking? Hmm. You and I both know, the insurance companies. The insurance companies are going to be marching into power companies, marching into states and saying, look. I just paid for $2 billion of spoiled frozen turkeys.

• 2:12:13Tom Ellsworth?

  Because you guys and your grid and all of this happened. And so I I see things. This is a terrible thing that happened, but I kind of like when the little lessons happen because it gets you out in front of the bigger lessons.

• 2:12:28Patrick Bet-David?

  This is not even for us. This is in Europe. So I hope Americans are, you know, again, issues change, right? Issues change. Today, one issue that's very popular could mean nothing in five years, 10 years, and it can go. I think one of the things I would be asking my politicians of my city, my state, my country that are running for office, say. How are you protected? You know, what is your plan long term to make sure business owners are not tied to the energy? In case something were to happen, they need to come up with an idea and a strategy on how you're going to address that. Let's go to the next story. Next one I want to get into is a story about. Uh, let me see which one I want to go to. I'll go to the story here. Paul Pierce, basketball player, made in his career roughly $200 million.

• 2:13:09Patrick Bet-David?

  Okay, this guy made a lot of money in his career in playing basketball. I'm trying to see what page this story is at, if you want to pull it up. He reveals troubling financial situation after losing. Uh, his latest gig, Paul Pierce reveals troubling. So this guy, $200 million in career earnings. Okay, you see him doing live streams with girls coming in, all this other stuff coming into his place. Hall of Fame over 19 season, championship, finals MVP. This guy's a legit player. He claims he is tapped out financially while trying to keep up with the. His court order support payments, largely because he is no longer receiving. Income from Fox Sports, according to court documents obtained by TMZ.

• 2:13:49Patrick Bet-David?

  Pierce said his last check from the network came in August. His average monthly income was $119,000, he said. And it has since dropped to zero. He reported earning around $23,000 last month. From his partnership interests and other business ventures, Pierce pays roughly $28,000 in child support. And another $20,000 in spousal support each month, but claims he has only $300,000 left in the bank and $3 million in property. His attorney said in the filing that Pierce was drowning financially and would have great difficulty keeping up with his obligations. Pierce earned an estimated $200 million in his NBA career. Tom, are you surprised?

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• 2:17:11Speaker 06

  But I think also when there's an opportunity to educate athletes, about certain agents, about finances, about things like this. He talks about the first million he made. And he said his first million, he ended up with only 10 grand in his pocket, right? Because his mom, his, his brothers and sisters and cousins he didn't know he had, came to him when he had that million dollar check as a rookie. And he's done the math on the error where he talked about he ended up with only 10 grand left. Well, part of it is who you support and what you do with it. Is it a bad thing to do something for your mom? When, who took you to practice and did all that? No. But when you live large and then you decide you're just going to support every family member, you're becoming the welfare system for your family.

• 2:17:56Speaker 06

  It's you're not just taking care of your mom. I could see taking care of your mom. How many athletes have we seen do that? The best example I saw was Warwick Dunn, who, who manages money so carefully and took care of his mom, but everybody else? Who are you? You're my cousin. Go get a job. And so this is what happens to players. They live like a Billy when they're making like a Millie. And they're sitting.

• 2:18:21Speaker 02

  Hell yeah, Tom.

• 2:18:22Speaker 06

  Spending on the rest of the family.

• 2:18:24Speaker 02

  Oh, Tom's just in there with bars.

• 2:18:26Speaker 06

  I'm not trying to be funny.

• 2:18:28Speaker 02

  You are. No, it's awesome.

• 2:18:29Tom Ellsworth?

  You are.

• 2:18:30Speaker 02

  Millie and Billy.

• 2:18:31Tom Ellsworth?

  8.7, Tom.

• 2:18:31Speaker 02

  But can we, can we go back to that graph really quick? By the way, I don't care who you, $28,000 for one child a month?

• 2:18:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, total child support.

• 2:18:41Speaker 02

  Okay, well, how many kids, do we know how many kids does he have?

• 2:18:44Tom Ellsworth?

  One.

• 2:18:44Speaker 02

  Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's just say it's one.

• 2:18:48Tom Ellsworth?

  Trojan Collins.

• 2:18:49Speaker 02

  $20,000 a month for his wife because, well, he got her used to that lifestyle. Okay. I don't know what $8,000 childcare, seven, but he needs a financial advisor. If you're spending $7,000 to eat out a month and another $5,000 on groceries for your house, $3,500 for entertainment. Does that equal what strippers?

• 2:19:08Tom Ellsworth?

  Well, that's because he's feeding a lot of people. That's what that seven, he's taking a bunch of people out to eat.

• 2:19:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, absolutely. But then, and then, bro, ready for this, $1,000 on clothes. I, I'm sorry. I'm sorry. You need to freaking have a budget. The, the top two drive me crazy. There's no child, there's no child that needs $30,000 a month to survive. Give me a break.

• 2:19:29Tom Ellsworth?

  How's that eight year old going to drive a Ferrari?

• 2:19:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. That, to me, that's the system. But I mean, just, so three, three with his ex-wife, two outside the relationship. So, yeah, I mean, he has a bunch of kids. I don't know if they're all, if he's not on child support for them because in their life.

• 2:19:42Speaker 06

  He had a place in Calabasas, Pat, uh, three streets over from the Kardashians. 8.7 million, he sold it in April of this year and bought a, a two and a half million dollar house in, in poor impoverished Woodland Hills down the street. We know exactly.

• 2:19:55Patrick Bet-David?

  Poor impoverished Woodland Hills.

• 2:19:57Tom Ellsworth?

  I lived in Woodland Hills for a while.

• 2:20:00Speaker 06

  They live down in.

• 2:20:02Speaker 06

  Yeah, exactly right. And he, he had to do that. And he also had to settle this year $180,000 poker debt. Why are you paying poker with people and you're losing to? Why do you have so many hangers on? You know, and this is just bad decision after bad decision. And now here it is. You're at the end of it.

• 2:20:21Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, but you'll see this with anyone who comes into big money who doesn't have a, a financial education. And you see it with athletes all the time. And then, by the way, if you make it big, that's when every leech and parasite in the world is suddenly at your door, in your ear, and they just try and get as much from you as you can. It's very, very hard if you don't have the background to be. And, and people go like, how do you lose 200 million? I could never, you see people win the lottery. They win $600 million and within three years it's gone. Like.

• 2:20:48Speaker 06

  Yeah, but or they're gone because lottery suicides is a very interesting case study.

• 2:20:52Speaker 02

  But Tom made a great point. He's, he's acting silly. You only have a couple of Millie, but you're acting like you have a Billy. He needs to get with the biz doc, Pat, and potentially make.

• 2:21:02Patrick Bet-David?

  Well, let me tell you, I don't know if you remember what this guy did one time, Paul Pierce. He's working at Fox Sports. And he goes Instagram Live. And while he's live, he's inviting dancers over to his place. How much? How much is DMing? Hey, come over, come over to the house, come over to the house. And then Fox, can you talk about Paul Pierce Fox Sports fired him? Why did Fox Sports fire him? If you just ask why he got fired from Fox. It's because, you know, revealed legal document revealed that he's in financial hardship. Yeah, but there was a, there was a reason why they fired him. No, there was a reason why they fired him. If you ask ChatGPT why they fired him, he made a dumb decision, acted like a fool. And while live streaming, you can't behave that way. No institution can choose to fire you. They've won.

• 2:21:48Patrick Bet-David?

  So when you know you have financial issues, what are you doing? Acting like you're 19 years old again? You're not. So I, I think he made a mistake with, you know, fired by ESPN 2021 after broadcasting Instagram Live, showing himself smoking, drinking, playing poker and partying with exotic dancers. Pierce said ESPN considered the incident a violation of his contract, moral clause, bottom. 2020 ESPN firing a document. Yeah, so you can't behave this way. By the way, I don't know if you have that clip with Zlatan. Zlatan talked about it in an interview.

• 2:22:18Speaker 06

  He did all of that.

• 2:22:19Patrick Bet-David?

  Can, can you press play? He, he talks about what happens to money when you make money with friends and family. Go for it.

• 2:22:25Speaker 02

  As possible, but not, maybe not to survive or to have it just for the challenge. Because you create something and then you get a big jackpot by selling a tie. And I agree with you. Money creates problems, even in families. Money brings stress. The more you have, the more stress. And, and where is the start? You could live a good life with normal money, but what is normal money now? I've been on the both sides. I've been without money, grew up with a family where my father made 1,000 euro in pound. I don't know how much it is. And still we had a good. 1,000 euro over what period? Monthly. Monthly. Monthly. Thousand, then you pay bills and that, I don't know how much is left.

• 2:23:08Speaker 02

  And, and we have to share it, not share it. It was his. He gave me whenever I needed. And.

• 2:23:15Patrick Bet-David?

  You can pause it right there. I remember my dad was making 1,500 bucks a month, working as a cashier at a 99 cent store in Inglewood for 15, 20 years. That's what he did. Mom ran out of money, living on welfare, went back to Iran. And we're kind of left there saying, what do we do? So I joined the military, I get out. When I get out, I don't have any money. But when you're going out, when all of a sudden I started making money, it was automatic within a lot of the kids in school that, hey, because you got money, you got to pay for everything when we're going out. You got to pay for this. Got to. And, and a part of that for me was, and by the way, all I care about is the offer, right? But if you're not too careful and you set that precedent yourself with everybody,

• 2:23:58Patrick Bet-David?

  like Michael would go out with Charles and Michael, Charles would say, Michael is so cheap. You know, and LeBron has a reputation, LeBron is so cheap. But it's kind of like, you're also making your own money as well. So, so then family gets into it and say, well, you have money. Well, you have money. Well, yeah, but all the days while you were partying and hanging out, having a good time, I was busting my ass.

• 2:24:15Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah.

• 2:24:15Patrick Bet-David?

  Why do you think I have money? You think I got lucky having money? So there's an element of that. But I think these younger guys like Paul Pierce, I, I went and met with Antonio Walker. Do you guys, Antoine Walker, remember Antoine Walker from the Boston Celtics?

• 2:24:28Tom Ellsworth?

  Yep.

• 2:24:28Patrick Bet-David?

  Chicago guy, he started gambling with Michael and he's like, Michael's playing millionaire hands. I couldn't play millionaire hands. And what happens all of a sudden? He loses it all. He goes and works with Morgan Stanley to educate the next players of what to do with their finances. None of this stuff is normal. But I'm also not surprised that you did. Don't plea and say, my God, poor me, look how rough of a life I'm living. All those years you made the money, you were acting like this money is going to be there for the rest of your life. And it's not. Last thing I want to do before we wrap up is to follow it. No, they don't. They don't buy assets.

• 2:24:58Tom Ellsworth?

  Do if you have a windfall like that, is expect it's going to run out and set up passive forms of income with your money. That's the whole point.

• 2:25:05Patrick Bet-David?

  Bad friends, man. They get a hold of you. Have you guys watched the Mike Tyson documentary that just came out on Netflix? Have you seen it?

• 2:25:10Tom Ellsworth?

  No, I haven't.

• 2:25:10Patrick Bet-David?

  How sick is that documentary? My God, it's a phenomenal documentary.

• 2:25:14Tom Ellsworth?

  But it's not shocking.

• 2:25:16Patrick Bet-David?

  No, it's not shocking, but you gotta watch it. The three people he trusted, all three died, and then from there, he was like he had no clue where to go.

• 2:25:22Tom Ellsworth?

  Yeah, that I I knew Mike Tyson's story in terms of like when.

• 2:25:25Patrick Bet-David?

  But it's content you've never seen before. It's content you've never seen before. Anyways, last but not least, a story comes out. If you want to pull up the Mickey Mantle story, Patrick Bedavid faces pushback for confirming $50 million record sale for the 1952.

• 2:25:40Tom Ellsworth?

  Pushback.

• 2:25:40Patrick Bet-David?

  Mickey Mantle collectible. What is that Yahoo Finance Management Journal? Well, to the people in the space, I got a lot of weird calls. Here's all I will tell you. My sources are right, and you just have to wait for three to four months, but you're gonna come back and say, wow, Pat was right. So just hang tight before you go out there and saying, you know, Pat made this claim of $50 million. You're gonna find out how I was involved in this, but we have to wait a few months. Somebody made a mistake there, and that's somebody who made the mistake, we're gonna reveal in four months, who caused this mistake. This should have never been released to the public, but one person made a mistake, and unfortunately, that's their mistake that came to me. I never gave names.

• 2:26:23Patrick Bet-David?

  I just said that this has happened. I'm gonna protect the names for the sake of the business being done. But once it's finalized, you guys are gonna come back and say, Pat's sources were right. Well, you have to wait three to six months for it. Anyways, with that being said, great to have you on, Elon. Great to have you on. Tomorrow, we're gonna be together at 5990 with doing live. I think we're going live. What time? 6:00 or 7:00 PM?

• 2:26:44Tom Ellsworth?

  The boardroom. Please be, if you're a member, you know, be there early, but we'll be live at 7:01.

• 2:26:49Patrick Bet-David?

  7:01 till midnight, and we're gonna give a top 40 list of people that should consider running for office. We're gonna give that PDF tomorrow. Now, we're gonna have a lot of good time, a lot of shit talking, lots of fun, and we'll be on C-SPAN. We'll see you guys there. Take care, everybody. God bless. Bye bye, bye bye.

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