NFL Week 9 Picks And Preview, TNF Sucked, Brian Baldinger Joins The Show To Talk Some Ball Plus Fyre Fest Of The Week

Thursday Night Football was an absolute stinker as Joe Fagnano wasn't allowed to shine and the Jaguars absolutely dominated the Ravens. Kyler Murray is injured and Carson Wentz is back in for the Vikings (00:00:00-00:20:55). Week 9 Picks and Preview we talk every game including another international game, the future of Bryce Young, Jordan Love antagonizing the refs on Halloween and Glen Tape Watch. We then do our picks and fahntasy preview (00:20:55-01:52:55). Brian Baldinger joins the show to talk some football, who is popping off in the film, teams he loves, teams he hates and more (01:52:55-02:21:38). We finish with Fyre Fest of the Week You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Friday, November 6. And RIP to the Joe Fagnano era PFT, because we just watched one of the worst Thursday night football games. We actually are recording early. We're calling, we're pulling the plug early. We did two things that I think I'm very proud of us for doing maturity wise. One, we decided not to go into the office tonight, stream this game, get ourselves hyped up for this game, put out a bunch of bets on this game and, and then be like, why did we do that? And two, it's the third quarter, it's 20 to three Jaguars.

• 3:23Speaker 00

  And we said, you know what? Let's podcast because I'll say it, Joe Fagnano seems like a nice guy. Not it.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  I have a completely different perspective on this game right now.

• 3:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  I agree. It's time that we, we call it, the Ravens are not coming back, but it's because Joe Fagnano can't do it all by himself.

• 3:43Speaker 00

  Well, they won't let him throw.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  They gotta, they gotta get him some help. They gotta trust him. They gotta put the ball. It's, it's a guy, it's an Italian guy named Joe. His last name starts with an F. He's got an arm. He's in Baltimore. Let him throw the ball. Trust him a little bit. I was watching this game for really, really two reasons. One was, three reasons. I respected Jaguars. That's number one. Number two, I wanted to see what Joe Fagnano had in that shoulder of his. And number three, I wanted to see how Declan Doyle would call a game in this situation with a guy who is probably not ready to play in the NFL. And that's just mostly for looking forward. If you're a fan of a team that might be considering hiring a young, dynamic offensive head coach next year, you wanted to see something out

• 4:29Speaker 02

  of Declan Doyle in this game. Haven't really been able to see it because he doesn't really trust his quarterback. I just, I'd like to, I'd like to see him cut it loose a little bit with Joey F.

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  Here's where I knew we were in for a long night. It was when we were in the second quarter and we had more shots of Joe Fagnano's sister than we had Joe Fagnano passes. And the Amazon production crew decided to burn the Joe Fagnano tape almost instantly where they're like, here's Joe Fagnano making the team. Here's Joe Fagnano picture with his family. Like they burned through all the Joe Fagnano material because essentially someone in the truck was like, hey, they're not going to let this guy pass. And even if he does pass, I don't know if it's going to work. So let's just, let's just blitz him with the Joey F stuff and, and get on with the game. And the game, it's raining. Shout out

• 5:21Speaker 00

  to Ravens fans for like, being there, staying there. Like, like the crowd was really into it to start the game. And this team is bad. But yeah, Joe Fagnano, I ladder Joe Fagnano. I think I actually might make a shirt that said, I ladder Joe Fagnano's passing yards and all I got with this shirt. I think I'm gonna do that. You know what? That's what I'm gonna do.

• 5:42Speaker 02

  I survived trying to bet on Joe Fagnano that one Thursday night.

• 5:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I didn't because I lost every single bet. But yeah.

• 5:50Speaker 02

  Well, you're here to tell the tale of it. I think that this is, we were talking a little bit before we started taping, but this is a cry for help moment from Big Cat where like, you knew that bet wasn't going to hit. But you just wanted to say that at one point, I laddered Joe Fagnano because there's never going to be another moment where you can ladder Joe Fagnano. And you're right, when it comes to like the truck playing all the behind the scenes footage, they knew that they weren't going to get a chance to ever use that footage ever again. They're like, hey, we've got, we've got 45 seconds of Joe Fagnano crying because he's amazed that he got a job playing professional football. We should probably play this quick because otherwise no one's ever going to see it.

• 6:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. Like, let's just get, let's get all the Joey Fons stuff out there now. Stat. But I, listen, I did ladder Joe Fagnano. It was a moment in time where I said to myself, hey, are you going to get to watch Joe Fagnano play football ever again in the NFL? The answer's probably no. So yeah, what if, what if he throws, what if he throws a screen pass to Derrick Henry? He takes it 90. The ladder, by the way, was it like, it started at 150? You're, it's, let's not get crazy. I wasn't.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  I mean, he, it's still too.

• 7:00Speaker 00

  There's still a quarter left. They could throw a bomb.

• 7:03Speaker 02

  In the first quarter, I feel like they had Derrick Henry tip more passes than Joe Fagnano.

• 7:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. It also didn't help that in warmups, when they were like Joey, Joey, Joey Fagnano warming up and he had a club on his ankle. It was the largest ankle brace I've ever seen. And it was pouring rain. We should just say too, the Jaguars are a very good football team. The Jaguars are one of the best teams in, in the NFL. They're, they're definitely at the top of the AFC. I've always said this when it comes to the NFL, when we talked about it with the, with the crazy Trevor Lawrence stat on Wednesday. Yes, you could say, well, you know, the Ravens stink and the Colts stink and what the Jaguars have done the last couple of weeks, you know, these teams stink. I don't care. It's hard to win the NFL. The margins are so small. When you make the other team look like shit,

• 7:52Speaker 00

  you get credit in my eyes. When you like dominate and there's not even a second that I'm saying, oh, the Jaguars might lose this game. There wasn't, I, there wasn't a second, there was not a second where I was like, whoa, the Jaguars might be in trouble. You get credit in my mind.

• 8:06Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, if you, if you listen to this interview where Trevor Lawrence is talking about his relationship with Liam Cohen and, and how he looks at the game now that he's been in this system for a little bit. And he literally feels like every time he goes up to the line of scrimmage, he has every answer to the test. And he knows exactly what to do. If this guy goes here, if that guy goes here, here's what I do. Like I've, it's rare that you hear a quarterback speaking that confidently about how well they know the system that they're playing in. And I think with a guy that's as talented as Trevor, once you get him to stop thinking, like, once his, once his brain can just shut up and get rid of all the like pre-stap anxiety that he used to have when he had some questionable coaches, like that dude's an awesome quarterback. And I've got, I've got a lot of faith, not

• 8:47Speaker 02

  just their off, their defense is really good, too. Although it's, it's hard to say tonight in a game like tonight where one, it's rainy, two, you're going up against Joe Fagnano, and you don't know what you're going to get, but they're not going to let him throw the ball. The one thing I did like that Declan Doyle did, he did the thing that Ben Johnson did a little bit with, with Caleb the other night, which is just like resetting the pocket. And if we, you've, you've seen some of the flag football, they're like two quarterback system where they like get a real quick lateral toss and then that's kind of reestablishes the pocket off to the side. That's a really interesting thing that I think more teams are going to start to do. Yeah. Direct snap, you're running back and then hit the quarterback like five yards away and let him throw the ball immediately. That was kind of cool. But

• 9:31Speaker 02

  besides that, there really wasn't anything fun tonight. It was not a fun football game.

• 9:35Speaker 00

  No. Um, I have, oh, my only critique of the Jags, I think Liam Cohen's getting too skinny.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  GLP one.

• 9:44Speaker 00

  He's, he seems like he's wasting away a little bit. Zach, do you agree?

• 9:49Speaker 03

  He's definitely on the, uh, the PEDs.

• 9:52Speaker 00

  I'm not gonna say, I'm not gonna say he is or he isn't, but he's getting, he's getting to the point where they like, his skin is getting like, let's, I don't know. Maybe it's just.

• 10:01Speaker 03

  You gotta replace that with muscle.

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Guys can't better themselves anymore.

• 10:04Speaker 03

  But you gotta replace that with the muscle. That's when you gotta start lifting.

• 10:06Speaker 00

  That's right. I'm not accusing him of, of any of, any PEDs, but there's like a getting skinny, pretty much what Minz is going through right now. If you've taken a look at Ben Minz, it's disgusting. And he's like wasting away. He's like a melting candle. You don't want to be that. Do you agree?

• 10:25Speaker 02

  I wouldn't call Liam Cohen a melting candle right now.

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  I didn't say he's there yet. I'm just saying you don't want to get there. You don't want to become a melting candle.

• 10:33Speaker 03

  Those bill troubles are like the one, one fear fat guys who would think about losing weight. They're like, well, what if I run into this predicament? How do I get out of this?

• 10:40Speaker 02

  Right. You know what the problem is? You know what the problem that we're seeing with Liam Cohen? They just showed him on the sidelines. I think, um, the, the skinnier that he gets, his ears stay the same size.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's gotta get a hat.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  And that's.

• 10:52Speaker 00

  Do you know what he's gotta do? He's gotta tuck his ears.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  Into his hat.

• 10:57Speaker 02

  Or wear a headband, maybe. Yeah.

• 10:59Speaker 00

  Tuck, yeah, yeah.

• 11:01Speaker 02

  Do the flat brim and just go around the ears with it.

• 11:04Speaker 00

  Has there ever been an NFL head coach that's tucked their ears? That'd be a crazy move.

• 11:10Speaker 02

  I could see like, I could see Joe Philbin doing it unintentionally.

• 11:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, what, what?

• 11:15Speaker 02

  Like by mistake.

• 11:16Speaker 04

  Max, you were saying something. The Mincy was ridiculous.

• 11:19Speaker 00

  I didn't say he's Mincy. I said, you don't want to get to that point.

• 11:24Speaker 04

  But you, even putting those two in the same sentence is extremely disrespectful.

• 11:30Speaker 00

  I don't think that, I didn't, I said, it, maybe I misspoke. Here's what I mean. You don't want to be a melting candle like Mincy. Be careful, Liam Cohen.

• 11:42Speaker 04

  I think he looks, I think he looks good.

• 11:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, he looks good right now, but I think if you keep going.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  He's gotta do, we gotta, we gotta pin the ears back a little bit. That's okay.

• 11:49Speaker 04

  The ears, I can see. The ears are, are, they're large ears.

• 11:53Speaker 02

  They look normal when he, when he was bigger. Now it's just kind of standing out a little bit. Yeah.

• 11:57Speaker 00

  Right. Tuck the ears into your hat and you're good to go. By the way, all this is irrelevant. The guy's a fucking awesome head coach. Like, yeah, he's one of the best coaches in, in the league. So I don't think, I don't think, you know, it matters as long as he does the thing we said, tuck your ears in.

• 12:14Speaker 04

  He had a little belly.

• 12:16Speaker 00

  What?

• 12:16Speaker 02

  Were you looking shirtless pictures of him?

• 12:18Speaker 00

  Are you looking at old pictures?

• 12:19Speaker 04

  I'm looking at him on the, I'm looking at him on the Bucks because I wanted to do a comparison.

• 12:22Speaker 00

  So you agree with me now? Yeah.

• 12:25Speaker 04

  No, I don't agree with you. I think he looks great, but.

• 12:28Speaker 00

  I think he looks good, but there's a dangerous spot. You know what I'm saying?

• 12:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think we can find other examples of people who have lost weight besides Ben Minz.

• 12:38Speaker 00

  No, that's, he's just the scare, he's the scare tactic. Cause Zach brought up the, the PEDs. And I said, if you do do those, be careful of the, of the mints. Do you know what I'm saying? Where it's like, you don't gain any muscle. You just waste away. You become the Stephen King novel, or the movie thinner. You know that, remember that one? That fat lawyer? Got the, I've got the, uh, what was it? Like a witch doctor or something? Something like that.

• 13:04Speaker 04

  Sounds right. Yeah. Nailed it.

• 13:06Speaker 00

  What? I think I did.

• 13:07Speaker 03

  You do that.

• 13:08Speaker 04

  I don't, yeah. I have no idea. So I just, I was just going to say, yes.

• 13:13Speaker 02

  Hey, do you have any thoughts about Liam Cohen?

• 13:15Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 13:17Speaker 03

  This is, but I said, I, I, I don't think like, I, I think he looks pretty much the same. Like he lost 10 pounds. I don't think there's anything wrong with that.

• 13:24Speaker 02

  I'm, I, I agree. I think we all agree. Big cat, for some reason, he's just worried that it's going to get out of hand.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. I didn't say that he looks bad now. He looks a little different. I didn't say he looks bad.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  Mincy.

• 13:38Speaker 00

  No, I didn't. Shut the fuck up, man.

• 13:42Speaker 00

  And if I did, I take it back. He did not look like Mincy. I'm saying you don't want to look like that.

• 13:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. Let's maybe, don't, don't talk about him so much. He can probably hear us with those ears he's got.

• 13:51Speaker 00

  Mincy's, Mincy's hopware is about to happen. He's about to.

• 13:56Speaker 02

  Don't get started.

• 13:56Speaker 00

  He's about to rip off his shirt. Um, okay. Yeah. Liam Cohen, one of the best coaches, I would say top five coach in the NFL easily. I mean, this is like, this is the same thing. Like, everyone's like, oh, well, the Jags had an incredible year. First year of Liam Cohen, did he really unlock? Remember ever since the, uh, the Trevor Lawrence, when he told them to rip it? He's just been, he's been coaching his ass off and they're just dominating. And yeah, they lost in the first round last year, but that was a pretty tight game against the Bills. I think the Jags are a Super Bowl contender easily. Like there's no question about it. And it's because of Liam Cohen.

• 14:29Speaker 04

  Sure.

• 14:30Speaker 03

  Have you seen them just let him open it up, DFT?

• 14:32Speaker 00

  What's up?

• 14:33Speaker 03

  Joe Fagnano. Just opened it up.

• 14:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, he just threw a pick. Oh, he dialed it up?

• 14:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  What happened? He, it looks like he's not happy.

• 14:40Speaker 00

  Uh, they, they were like, hey, Joe.

• 14:42Speaker 02

  We're celebrating.

• 14:43Speaker 00

  Joe, they're like, Joe, Joey.

• 14:45Speaker 03

  The guy one yard in front of him.

• 14:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. They're like, Joey, go ahead, throw, throw, let's open this, uh, whole offense up. Let's throw the, uh, three yard out. And then he threw a pick.

• 14:54Speaker 02

  Let's all just choose to remember Joe Fagnano by the first two passes that he threw the other day.

• 14:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:00Speaker 02

  How about that?

• 15:01Speaker 00

  Ravens definitely in the season from hell category. We can all agree. Like this is just, it's, it's a really sad watch. And I think they have three more prime time games. So, uh, all right. Last thing. Carson Wentz looks like he's going to start. Is that official? I think it is, right?

• 15:17Speaker 02

  That's, that's what we're hearing. Um, Kyler's got a hammy. It, now the question is, does he have a hammy?

• 15:24Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 15:24Speaker 03

  He's got two.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  He's got two hammies. Uh, they do have a history of the soft benching.

• 15:29Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah. And this would be back to back years that the Vikings have made a decision on a quarterback. And then instead of maybe looking like they made the wrong decision, they instead say he's injured?

• 15:48Speaker 02

  Hmm. Huh. Hmm. Hmm.

• 15:54Speaker 02

  I've got, I had a thought. I had a thought.

• 15:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  What if Carson Wentz is just good?

• 16:02Speaker 03

  Wenzel soda.

• 16:03Speaker 00

  Okay. So the, all right. So this is where it's bullshit. You can't say that like, I have a problem with Joe Fagnano. And then you're, you're saying Carson Wentz, what if Carson Wentz is good in 2026? We're, we're, we're the same person.

• 16:12Speaker 02

  I can say whatever the fuck that I want.

• 16:15Speaker 03

  Carson Wentz can throw a ball.

• 16:17Speaker 00

  So can Joe Fagnano. They don't let him.

• 16:19Speaker 02

  Super Bowl champion Carson Wentz.

• 16:21Speaker 00

  Carson Wentz didn't go 28 touchdowns, one pick in, in a, a conferenceless football team.

• 16:30Speaker 02

  No, he didn't.

• 16:31Speaker 00

  Joe Fagnano last year at UConn. Oh man. No, I mean, I, I, Carson Wentz is, Carson Wentz is better than Kyler Murray.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  Carson Wentz was the MVP of the NFL before he got hurt that one season.

• 16:44Speaker 00

  That's true. Once you're that, it's for life. It's like N W R was for life. Carson Wentz, MVP. Yeah.

• 16:52Speaker 02

  I've come back around now where I can, I can, I can watch Carson Wentz without having like a visceral reaction where I want to throw up. Now, once he starts doing the Carson Wentz things, I might change my mind during the game, but as of right now, I'm, I'm kind of excited to see what Carson Wentz has left in the tank.

• 17:07Speaker 00

  He's, he's better than Kyler Murray. And I really do think this is a very odd thing that's happening in Minnesota where I, I mean, Kyler Murray's probably hurt. Like J J McCarthy was hurt last year, but I feel like they are just chasing their own tail, trying to figure out the quarterback situation. And it's just, it's getting to a point where it's like, what is going on? And I, we've talked about this with guys who we've had on before, like when you have the offense, defense, when one side's pulling its weight and the other isn't like, that does reach a boiling point. So.

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't, I don't know if there's any options that they can look at. Um, they, they probably will try to trade for somebody, right? If they've got Kyler and, and they're, they're saying he's got a hamstring. If it's a soft benching or if it's actually a hamstring, I think regardless of that, you still would probably want to bring somebody else in.

• 17:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. They could bring in anyone. They could bring in Kirk Cousins. We've mentioned, they could trade for Joe Fagnano.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 18:05Speaker 00

  Like a lot of guys.

• 18:08Speaker 00

  Jameis, Jameis would be fun. What were you gonna say, Max?

• 18:13Speaker 02

  Um.

• 18:15Speaker 00

  You put your hand up.

• 18:17Speaker 04

  No, I was just, I, I was thinking, I was thinking about Carson Wentz. I was, when you, when you said his college stats, I went to go look for his college stats to see if he did 28 touchdowns, one interception. He, he did not. It was, it wasn't very close to 28 touchdowns, one interception. So.

• 18:33Speaker 00

  What was it? What was it?

• 18:35Speaker 04

  25 touchdowns, 10 interceptions.

• 18:37Speaker 00

  Wow. So, yeah.

• 18:39Speaker 04

  But he, in FCS.

• 18:41Speaker 00

  In FCS. Hmm. Hmm.

• 18:47Speaker 04

  I just.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  But I will be doing a Joe Milton, Carson Wentz ladder parlay.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  Yikes.

• 18:55Speaker 00

  Again, this is not birds of a feather. We're peas in a pod, everyone here on this podcast.

• 19:00Speaker 02

  What's wrong with that?

• 19:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm not judging. Yeah.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  I'm excited about the bazooka ladder. The bazooka ladder is gonna be.

• 19:09Speaker 00

  As a Joe Fagnano guy, I can't, I can't be judging. I can't be casting any judgment anywhere.

• 19:16Speaker 00

  All right.

• 19:17Speaker 02

  I got, I got, I got a question for you, big cat.

• 19:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  Yeah. Has it reached the point in Minnesota? Where you might pick up the phone. I know he works for CBS right now. Russi.

• 19:29Speaker 00

  No.

• 19:30Speaker 02

  You know, Russi, you know, Russi wants to play.

• 19:34Speaker 00

  No. Russi was so bad. No.

• 19:39Speaker 02

  Just saying, you'd probably still throw that moon ball.

• 19:42Speaker 00

  No, I'd Philip Rivers over him.

• 19:45Speaker 02

  True. Yeah.

• 19:47Speaker 00

  I mean, there's, there's gotta be guys that you can try, like, what about, ah, no, I don't know. Throw Will Levis. I don't know. There's gotta be.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. Anthony Richardson.

• 19:56Speaker 00

  They gotta do something. They gotta do something. Bring back Daniel Jones. He's been bad this year, but at least he's, you know, like, he would be better than Kyler. I think, I don't know.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  I don't know.

• 20:08Speaker 00

  I actually don't know. Actually don't know what I'm saying right now.

• 20:11Speaker 02

  There has to be a better way. I feel like we're in an infomercial, watching the Minnesota Vikings. It's in black and white. We're walking on the, so we're spilling stuff all over. There's gotta be a better way to play football than this.

• 20:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. The Jaguars just got another, I, I, I think that, I think the Jaguars have gotten like 17 turnovers in a row now. And they've scored a field goal every time. This has been one of the worst games.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  No, that guy was down.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  He might've been down, but still, it's a tough, nope, he wasn't down, not even close to down.

• 20:41Speaker 02

  Really?

• 20:43Speaker 00

  This is so bad. All right.

• 20:45Speaker 02

  But you're right. Credit, credit to the Ravens fans that, that have stuck around for this. It is like, if you're in Baltimore, you'll take a free shower whenever you can get one. So they're probably just taking their shirts off.

• 20:55Speaker 00

  That was me.

• 20:57Speaker 02

  Enjoying themselves. Uh, but I mean, that's football town.

• 21:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, I, I couldn't believe when, when it was like pouring rain and they were just, and the guy was doing the, the flocking. I was like, that's a real fucking fan. Like this is a shit game. You're watching Joe Fagnano in the Wildcat offense down 20 against the Jaguars. Life can't get worse than this right now. So.

• 21:19Speaker 02

  I would, I would love to have just a camera on Stavi right now. See what he's going through.

• 21:23Speaker 00

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• 22:54Speaker 00

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• 24:03Speaker 00

  Because we have these, uh, starting quarterbacks this week. We have Joe Milton. We have Joe Fagnano and, uh, Jacoby Brissette, which we, well, Jacoby Brissette is not gonna play, but that was, uh, he got traded to the Cardinals. Shador Sanders, Drew Lock, Gardner Minshew.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 24:21Speaker 00

  It's actually not a bad group.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  I think if you, if you had to pick like a group of backup quarterbacks to all be going at the same time, we're gonna get some good surprises from that group.

• 24:29Speaker 00

  We've been in way worse spots.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 24:32Speaker 00

  As a collective audience.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  You remember Jack Strand?

• 24:35Speaker 00

  I, I remember Max Brosmer. Like there's, there's some, there's some dark spots that we've been in.

• 24:41Speaker 02

  Nick Mullin, the, the podcaster.

• 24:42Speaker 00

  Listen, I like Nick Mullin because he likes us. He DMs me every now and then, sending me a clip and like, this is funny. I'm like, yeah, that is funny. And also you played in the NFL. That's pretty fucking cool, dude.

• 24:51Speaker 02

  We've been in some tough, tough, dire straits before. This is not one of those weeks. In fact, I'm, I, we'll get to it later. The bazooka ladder is gonna be a hell of a time.

• 25:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. Bazooka ladder is gonna be one of those ladders that we're either gonna go to the moon or it's gonna get kicked out underneath us.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  You know what I would like to see?

• 25:07Speaker 00

  Break our back.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  As like an alternate ladder bet for that, just air yards thrown. Like, don't even talk about completions. Just how far is the ball going to travel in the air cumulatively? Over the course of the day by, by throws off of Joe Milton's bazooka arm.

• 25:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. I feel like Joe Milton's gonna throw for either 300 yards or like 70. That there's like, I, I don't feel like there's much of an in-between.

• 25:30Speaker 02

  No.

• 25:30Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. Let's get into the games. Hank?

• 25:33Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 25:34Speaker 00

  As always. Oh man, you've done it again. We got another international game. If you're like, oh, I really missed the international game last weekend. Guess what? We're back. Couple more weeks of this bullshit. Falcon, or Bengals at Falcons. Falcons are plus three, over/unders 52 and a half. Henry, what do you, what do you, did you learn anything about Spain?

• 25:58Speaker 06

  No.

• 25:59Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  Okay. Okay. What do you, what do you already know about Spain?

• 26:02Speaker 06

  Uh, Jon Rahm.

• 26:03Speaker 00

  Oh, by the way.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Can you name, can you name one, uh, novel that's based in Spain?

• 26:10Speaker 06

  Hmm.

• 26:13Speaker 06

  Count of Monte Cristo.

• 26:14Speaker 00

  Oh, come on, Hank.

• 26:15Speaker 02

  The one book you're supposed to read.

• 26:17Speaker 06

  Don Quixote.

• 26:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Uh, by the way, apologies for live 2.0.

• 26:21Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's okay.

• 26:23Speaker 00

  Really sad for this podcast. What are we gonna talk about? 3.0?

• 26:27Speaker 06

  I don't think there's gonna be a 3.0.

• 26:29Speaker 00

  Okay. So you're officially saying it's dead.

• 26:30Speaker 06

  I've said it was officially dead like months ago.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  No, you never say never. You haven't. Uh, you, you said you love the Falcons in this game.

• 26:39Speaker 06

  I do like the Falcons in this game.

• 26:40Speaker 00

  Why, why?

• 26:42Speaker 06

  Uh, I feel like they're, you know, people, they, they played great against the Niners. They, they played in shitty weather last week, which I feel like is kind of like hard to, to gauge, but they've been playing good. And I think they're gonna play good this week.

• 26:55Speaker 02

  I think they're.

• 26:55Speaker 06

  Like, I think you just throw away the, the game last week. It was, it was a hurricane. Like Baker May, they lost to a guy that threw for zero yards.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  I agree. Their mistake last week was they did not copy the, the Tampa Bay Buccaneers game plan. They wanted to stick to the game plan they had in place when I think the smart move was just, we're, fuck it. We're just gonna run the football.

• 27:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, can I interest you guys in a potential bet?

• 27:16Speaker 06

  The Spover?

• 27:17Speaker 00

  No.

• 27:18Speaker 02

  Mid Rover?

• 27:19Speaker 00

  Uh, it, it depends. It, it, it obviously, the Bengals have to win this game, which I, I think they, they can and will win this game. Bengals six to one to be the AFC one seed.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 27:33Speaker 00

  You don't like it?

• 27:34Speaker 02

  No.

• 27:35Speaker 00

  Have you looked at the Bengals' schedule?

• 27:37Speaker 06

  They, it is. The Titans will look like an easy win. They barely win.

• 27:41Speaker 00

  I agree. I agree. But they play the Falcons in Madrid. They have the Steelers at home.

• 27:48Speaker 06

  L.

• 27:48Speaker 00

  Commander, well, they already lost to Steelers. So I think they would more likely split it than commanders, Saints, Browns, Chiefs at home, Panthers, Colts, Ravens, Browns. There aren't a lot of good teams on that list.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. It's interesting. It's an interesting.

• 28:06Speaker 00

  I'm just throwing it out there. They're five and two. It's not like, I'm just looking at that and being like, could you conceivably see the Bengals getting to 13 wins? Okay. If they get to 13 wins, will they have a chance to be the one seed? I would, I think they'd be in the conversation. I don't know how many games the Bills are gonna end up winning or the Jaguars or the Broncos or, you know, but I'm just throwing it out there. Just throwing it out.

• 28:28Speaker 02

  I would like to see the defense look a little bit better.

• 28:30Speaker 00

  But I, but I, that's what I'm saying. It's like, I'm not saying the Bengals are like, gonna be the best team in the AFC. I'm saying just something to look at in terms of the Bengals' schedule. We could look up in mid-December and they could be at the top of the AFC and be like, how'd this happen? Well, they played a, a pretty soft schedule down the stretch.

• 28:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, they, they definitely could. If the defense improves a little bit. I, their offense is awesome. I have absolutely zero doubt in their ability to score points and beat anybody in, in that form. I just, I don't know. What I saw last weekend would, it does concern me a little bit. Doing that against the Titans.

• 29:03Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely. Cam Ward looked great. Uh, Hank, you be watching this whole game?

• 29:09Speaker 06

  Yeah, same as always, most of it.

• 29:11Speaker 02

  Okay, so most of it, so more than half.

• 29:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:14Speaker 02

  So tune in second quarter.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  No, it's usually like the, the, the second half is where I like come here and shower, get ready for the day and stuff.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  I, I think if anything.

• 29:24Speaker 00

  The third quarter is what gets missed.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. If anything, we need to put a bigger separation between the end of the.

• 29:28Speaker 00

  Are you guys gonna watch this whole game?

• 29:30Speaker 02

  Well, some, sometimes I'll have to leave in the middle of the fourth quarter. Yeah. To drive it up to the office. Have to listen to the rest of it on, on the phone on the way in, but they should put a little more separation. I would like to see like, give America an hour to shower.

• 29:43Speaker 00

  Or just don't play this game.

• 29:45Speaker 02

  Or just don't play the game.

• 29:46Speaker 00

  Just don't play this game. Yeah. That'd be really easy. By the way.

• 29:48Speaker 02

  The stadium kicks ass, by the way.

• 29:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, you're saying that.

• 29:51Speaker 02

  It's all, it's, they're probably gonna do the montage. I'm a big fan of like, slow motion or like either slow mo or time lapse montage is showing stadiums get ready for different things. They have like.

• 30:02Speaker 00

  That's like saying you're a big fan of bacon. Yes.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 30:04Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 30:04Speaker 02

  It's amazing.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  We all are.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  When they, when they, when they do this one, you're gonna see like a cavern open up underneath the field and they've got like fields and fields and.

• 30:12Speaker 00

  Oh, this is the one they grow the grass underneath?

• 30:14Speaker 02

  Underneath. Yeah.

• 30:15Speaker 00

  That is cool. I've seen that. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, just a stat throw out there. I don't know if this is noise or not. Kevin Stefanski, I actually, I don't really know if I'm gonna go off this one. Kevin Stefanski over the last five seasons. When he's faced Joe Burrow, the under is seven and O in those games. The only problem with that is Kevin Stefanski has been coaching a team that didn't have an offense. So I don't know.

• 30:39Speaker 02

  So yeah, that's not necessarily, although the Browns historically, they've been good against Joe Burrow until recently. Like they had his number for a while.

• 30:45Speaker 00

  Correct. But it was, that was a Kevin, that was a Schwartz and bad offense versus Joe Burrow.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  That might've been a Deshaun Kaiser stat.

• 30:54Speaker 00

  Combo. Yeah.

• 30:55Speaker 02

  That we looked at.

• 30:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm interested to see the difference between how the, the teams and some of the coaches are taking the, the entire trip in general for like, what's a priority?

• 31:06Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Do we know when they're leaving?

• 31:07Speaker 02

  They both left on Tuesday.

• 31:08Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 31:08Speaker 02

  But it sounds like the Falcons might be a little more lenient in terms of go out and see Madrid a little bit.

• 31:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 31:16Speaker 02

  Whereas Zach Taylor said, he, if I see a restaurant that hits me in the face, I might walk into it. So he's saying like, I don't want to go out and spend time eating, sightseeing, museums. So, but if he sees a, if a restaurant hits him in the face, he might eat at that restaurant.

• 31:32Speaker 00

  So Zach Taylor is just walking through like glass doors and not realizing they're glass doors.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's pretty much it. Yeah. He said, this is a business trip and I think the Falcons are, they're doing more of the sightseeing thing.

• 31:42Speaker 00

  That was one of those, those quotes that Zach Taylor thought was gonna come out way cooler.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:48Speaker 00

  Than it actually did.

• 31:49Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 31:49Speaker 00

  Uh, okay. You can't put this in the hungry dog, Hank.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  Nope.

• 31:54Speaker 00

  But it's definitely something you love.

• 31:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, I will be betting the Falcons for sure.

• 31:58Speaker 00

  Okay. Next game. This is the tough part about this slate, boys. We don't really have a game that is the premier game. It's, it's, it's a tough week for that. It's actually a week that I really love a lot of dogs, but this is a tough week for premier game early. You'd say Patriots Packers in the afternoon. Uh, I mean, I, I just wrote down, I just literally went in order. So Cowboys at Colts, like this game, show me something Cowboys, beat the, beat the Colts brains in, and maybe I'll give you some respect.

• 32:32Speaker 02

  My theme of this week is we've got a lot of matchups between two teams that have quite literally never played each other. Like teams that you don't ever remember facing off. And it starts with the Falcons and the Bengals. I can't remember the last time those teams played. I can't remember the last time the Colts played the Cowboys. I think the Dolphins and the Lions would be another one that they never, the Broncos and the Panthers, those teams don't play except for the Superbowl. But yeah, I think this should be, the Cowboys have a chance. Get back on the right path. Don't let Jerry Jones take over the media cycle for another week where he's saying weird things about your coaching staff.

• 33:03Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 33:04Speaker 02

  Just take care of business. I also think that this could, this is pretty much gonna be like a live auction for Jerry Jones, watching this game.

• 33:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:12Speaker 02

  He's gonna be watching the Colts and just be like, Jonathan Taylor.

• 33:16Speaker 00

  He should have the paddle.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, hold the paddle up.

• 33:18Speaker 00

  The whole time.

• 33:18Speaker 02

  There should be an auctioneer. Every time something happens, every time a play is made by the Colts, Jerry Jones should have to like either put his arm up or have like his son next to him, hold his arm down. When he's trying to overpay on a running back because he reminds him too much of Emmitt Smith. Tyler Warren is gonna be like the next Jay Novacek in his mind.

• 33:34Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 33:34Speaker 02

  Out there. So, uh, yeah, I think the Cowboys should win because I have no faith in the Colts' ability to do anything after what we've seen.

• 33:40Speaker 00

  Are we a little worried about Ed Dodds? Because I heard a, a report that Ed Dodds is a little frozen now, uh, because he started the trade deadline. With trading Forrest Buckner and Quentin Nelson. And obviously nothing is apples to apples here. But then when the Bears traded for Jeffrey Simmons and gave up two first round picks, Ed Dodds was like, oh, fuck, did I get enough for my guys? Again, apples to apples. I like, Quentin Nelson is on an expiring contract. He's 32 years old. Forrest Buckner is a little older. Like Jeffrey Simmons is one of the best defensive linemen, but still, do we think Ed Dodds is maybe a little frozen?

• 34:15Speaker 02

  No.

• 34:16Speaker 00

  Being like, fuck.

• 34:17Speaker 02

  No.

• 34:17Speaker 00

  Now I'm, I gotta, I gotta figure out what I'm gonna do with Jonathan Taylor.

• 34:21Speaker 02

  No, I think what we've seen is that the market is now paid in Ed Dodds premium.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 34:24Speaker 02

  The market is just catching up to Ed Dodds. He doesn't catch up to the market.

• 34:28Speaker 00

  Okay. Also, it is, I mean, Jonathan Taylor is an interesting one to trade because he is a 28-year-old running back. So it's not like, I think every team would want him.

• 34:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:38Speaker 00

  But, uh, probably every team doesn't want to give up significant draft capital for it.

• 34:42Speaker 02

  Hypothetically, big cat, if there would be one general manager in the NFL that could be talked into giving up draft capital for a talented running back. Do you think that Jerry Jones might be one of those guys?

• 34:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, although they have, Javon, Javon Williams is good.

• 34:56Speaker 02

  But Jerry, Jerry loves him a playmaker at running back.

• 34:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, but Javon Williams is good.

• 34:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, he is. I, I, listen, I'm not saying that I would do it. I'm saying that if there's one guy that would do it, it might be Jerry Jones.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, by the way, memes.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 35:13Speaker 00

  Your, your trade with the Colts is gonna go down as one of the most lopsided trades of all time.

• 35:17Speaker 02

  I think the greatest trade ever.

• 35:19Speaker 00

  It might, it literally might be. So the Jets, just to recap, got A.D. Mitchell, they drafted Kenyon Sadiq. They have the 2027 first round pick, which could be, right now it's the fourth overall. And then the Colts got Sauce Gardner, seven straight losses to end 2025 and tanking without a first round pick in 2026.

• 35:43Speaker 02

  A.D. Mitchell was just a throw in.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  I know.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  He fumbled one ball across the goal line and they just got rid of him.

• 35:48Speaker 00

  It is really insane and that's like, it's just, it's just crazy. It's crazy that the, the Colts, you know, through the beginning of the last season, we're like, yeah, we're all in.

• 35:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:59Speaker 00

  And, and it has backfired significantly ever since that moment.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  You gotta be very careful when you go all in. Very careful. They went, they were so prematurely all in.

• 36:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Way, and yeah, they went all in with Daniel Jones.

• 36:10Speaker 02

  Now they're all out.

• 36:11Speaker 00

  So congrats memes.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  Thank you. Also, like the Colts had like a super young wide receiver core and they're pretty much all gone now.

• 36:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Alec Pierce has been hurt, but yeah.

• 36:21Speaker 02

  Alec Pierce, Mi- Michael Pittman, Josh Downs, A.D. Mitchell, and then they just threw it all away. Memes, who do you want to win this game? Because you, you're kind of in a no lose situation.

• 36:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is your game.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  If, if the, if the Colts lose, guess what? That pick gets better. And if the Cowboys lose, they're already a top 10 pick for you right now. So which one would you rather see? I think I'm going Cowboys to win, so the Colts blow it up.

• 36:45Speaker 00

  Well, they already kinda are blowing it up.

• 36:46Speaker 02

  I saw a story that they're holding on hope for after this weekend.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  What? What kind of hope?

• 36:53Speaker 02

  Trying to, trying to get more.

• 36:54Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  More value out of guys.

• 36:55Speaker 00

  That's said dog negotiating time.

• 36:57Speaker 02

  He's anchored you.

• 36:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:59Speaker 02

  When you said they're holding on to hope. No, no, no, there's no hope. Hope, hope is gone. Okay. But they're just holding on to some guys trying to get more value out of them. Okay.

• 37:07Speaker 00

  I actually think it's, you, you don't even care who wins or loses this game memes. It's just whoever loses, you want them to keep losing. Like the losing team of this game has to just keep going.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I want, I want the Colts to lose out. Yeah, I think that's your path to number one. Yeah. If you want to shoot for the moon.

• 37:24Speaker 00

  Oh, Jeremiah Smith?

• 37:25Speaker 02

  Woo. I mean, you guys already got some great weapons.

• 37:29Speaker 00

  Jeremiah Smith memes?

• 37:31Speaker 02

  No, you gotta go Mestee.

• 37:33Speaker 00

  I don't know. Jeremiah Smith, he's gonna fix the Chargers. Maybe he can fix the Chargers and Jets at the same time.

• 37:39Speaker 02

  I don't know. That will work, but.

• 37:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't either. But I said it. All right. Let's talk about your game memes. Jets plus 10 at the Chiefs, uh, over, under 47 and a half.

• 37:50Speaker 02

  No. Fuck no.

• 37:51Speaker 00

  All right, all right, all right.

• 37:53Speaker 02

  That's why it never wins.

• 37:56Speaker 00

  All right.

• 37:58Speaker 00

  I think the Jets are alive in this game.

• 38:01Speaker 02

  I'm addicted to betting on the Jets. You know what's interesting is I think almost every week we've seen one of these upsets, like the big upset on the board has happened.

• 38:08Speaker 00

  I just think they're a little alive. I, I don't know. I, okay, the Jets offense is good. Like they're good. They have a lot of playmakers. They're good. The defense is a problem. I'm, I would be very worried about Kenneth Walker running all over, uh, the, the, the Jets defense.

• 38:28Speaker 00

  I don't know. I don't know. I mean, I just, I think the Jets might be a little frisky in this game.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  I heard a very insulting stat.

• 38:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 38:35Speaker 02

  The other day memes, can you, can you just take your headphones off? You, you'll probably.

• 38:39Speaker 00

  Do this every week. You're like, I have an insulting stat about the Jets.

• 38:42Speaker 02

  You'll probably want to kill me after I say this. It's not my stat. I heard, I heard it on CBS.

• 38:46Speaker 00

  Is it something about the end of the first half?

• 38:48Speaker 02

  No, no. Just say it. It's very insulting. Patrick Mahomes could go 0-17 for the next 12 straight seasons and still have a better winning percentage than the Jets have had since Patrick Mahomes got into the league.

• 38:59Speaker 00

  Whoa, wait, that doesn't make sense. 0-17 for 12 straight seasons?

• 39:05Speaker 02

  I guess it does make. That's pretty crazy. Pretty insulting stat. That is very insulting. Okay, you can put your headphones back on. It's probably the same as the commanders, but. Probably. They only said the Jets, but all right. Probably, well, that's because you're playing them.

• 39:19Speaker 02

  You can't hurt me with the commander's. I'm just saying you you're you're wearing a commander's shirt and hat and it's probably the same exact stat. I'm just delivering facts. All right, I'm listening to your facts. It's just a fact. All right. Don't be upset by numbers. I'm not upset. You're a little bit upset by the numbers.

• 39:35Speaker 00

  That mean that was mean.

• 39:36Speaker 02

  I said, I told you it was an insulting stat. It's not my stat. I'm not mad. Just jumped off the page at me. You have to admit, it's shocking. You didn't even believe that it was.

• 39:43Speaker 00

  No, I couldn't. I I can't really comprehend it.

• 39:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. Now, that being said, I I also don't hate the Jets this weekend. Not as a hungry dog, but against the spread.

• 39:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:54Speaker 02

  I I think that their offense is is legit. The defense has been a very big concern. And that's, you know, obviously a bigger concern when you have a defensive head coach. But the offense looks good. They've got a lot of weapons.

• 40:05Speaker 00

  Hank, what have you? So not Colts, not Jets.

• 40:10Speaker 06

  We it's. I do not like that's not locked in. It's Thursday. I do like.

• 40:14Speaker 00

  We're doing a show.

• 40:15Speaker 06

  I understand, but you what what was your question? Do you like?

• 40:19Speaker 00

  I forgot to ask if the Colts. I'm sorry. Never forget it. Forget.

• 40:22Speaker 06

  Well, what was the question? Do you have?

• 40:24Speaker 00

  I was gonna ask not Colts, not Jets.

• 40:26Speaker 06

  Correct.

• 40:27Speaker 00

  Okay, all right. That was all. That was my only question. I I won't ask about the hungry dog anymore.

• 40:31Speaker 06

  No, you can add, but like you keep you always every week. You're like, what's a hungry dog? What is it? What is it? What is?

• 40:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, as we go through the preview.

• 40:37Speaker 06

  And I tell you which ones I like, but it's not.

• 40:40Speaker 00

  I forgot to ask about the Colts. I'm sorry. I didn't know.

• 40:42Speaker 06

  After last week, I would not pick the Colts.

• 40:44Speaker 00

  Okay. I was just asking if the Colts were on it. My bad. I forgot to ask when we went to the Colts game. My bad.

• 40:50Speaker 06

  But that's also not. There is no. There's no one on it because it's Thursday.

• 40:55Speaker 02

  But you have to ask what you like.

• 40:56Speaker 06

  I and I. Yes, correct. But you're gonna ask, are they on it? There no one's on.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  Sorry for asking if they're on.

• 41:02Speaker 02

  And you don't, but you don't like the Jets. It's not the Jets.

• 41:06Speaker 00

  Not the Jets or the Colts.

• 41:08Speaker 06

  Correct.

• 41:09Speaker 00

  And I'm on. We also not. No one's on it. It's Thursday.

• 41:13Speaker 06

  Correct.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  But there are. There are some teams that are off it.

• 41:15Speaker 00

  But there's no one on it. So don't ask.

• 41:17Speaker 02

  We've eliminated two.

• 41:18Speaker 06

  I didn't say don't ask.

• 41:19Speaker 00

  There's no one on.

• 41:20Speaker 02

  We gotta. We gotta talk. Maybe the Falcons, maybe the Falcons.

• 41:23Speaker 06

  We always do. We always do.

• 41:25Speaker 02

  I know. But maybe the Falcons.

• 41:27Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 41:28Speaker 06

  Not on it.

• 41:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, not on it.

• 41:30Speaker 02

  But there's definitely some teams that could be on it soon.

• 41:32Speaker 00

  No.

• 41:33Speaker 06

  There's teams that I like.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  No, there's actually. It's impossible. There literally can be no one on it right now.

• 41:38Speaker 06

  It's empty.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  There's there are spots that maybe those teams will get on it.

• 41:42Speaker 00

  But there will not be any teams on it.

• 41:44Speaker 06

  This is true. We won't say.

• 41:45Speaker 02

  We've eliminated three.

• 41:46Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 41:46Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 41:47Speaker 00

  There's three teams that are definitely not on it.

• 41:50Speaker 00

  All right, we got it. All right, I I kind of want to put this Jets Chiefs game main TV. I don't know.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 41:58Speaker 00

  I don't know. What do you? I mean, we're.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  You'll you'll know within the first five minutes.

• 42:02Speaker 00

  That's.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  What's? What are the keys? What are we gonna look for in the first five? Geno Smith goes five for five to start the game. Okay. And then it's.

• 42:10Speaker 00

  Then it's on.

• 42:11Speaker 02

  Then it's on. Four for five. Four. Yeah, no, it's on. Three for five. Might not be on. It'll be slow. Okay, then then anything below three for five, not on. Yeah. Okay. Five for five shootout, but when the Jets statistically have nothing to play for, they play out of their minds. So. I just did a little bit of research. The Jets have won thirty nine games since two thousand eighteen. The commanders have won sixty two games.

• 42:39Speaker 00

  Oh, so not even close.

• 42:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 42:42Speaker 00

  That was some good research.

• 42:43Speaker 02

  Thanks. What is that? Google AI? Yeah.

• 42:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:48Speaker 02

  All right, so it might be wrong. Could be wrong. It actually it very well. I would say that chances are greater than fifty percent. That stat is incorrect. But the vibe is probably right. It's probably COVID. Yeah, that's true. You don't count COVID. That's true. We did make the playoffs. Heinecke.

• 43:02Speaker 00

  Do you think there's a chance that the the now that the ADOT stat that Mahomes is Patty checked down? Do you think there's a chance that maybe the the Chiefs try to just give him some shots deep to to stretch that stat? Because it is pretty crazy. I know Taekwon Thornton being out.

• 43:17Speaker 02

  That's a big part of it.

• 43:18Speaker 00

  He was, but it's it's also a stat that has been growing in the past few years, like the last couple of years he's been. Some may call him Patty checked down. I do not call him that.

• 43:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think I think him and Andy Reid are definitely two guys that probably don't care. If anything, they might lean into whatever insulting stat. Just be like, yeah, call me that. We're still gonna win.

• 43:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, fine, fine. Okay, next game. Lions Dolphins Dolphins plus seven over under fifty fifty and a half. I kind of like the Dolphins.

• 43:50Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 43:50Speaker 00

  Say it.

• 43:51Speaker 02

  They're playing hard.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  All right, it's just it's they're playing hard and the spot. The spot is tough for the Lions. The Lions emotional win with the against the Vikings. Jack Campbell injury, which it seems like he's moving his lower extremities. Everything I've read. It feels like he's it's the best news possible. It's still not out of the woods.

• 44:13Speaker 02

  I would say I would disagree. I would say the best news possible would be like if he could move his whole body.

• 44:17Speaker 00

  Well, no, no, I I know. It's a process, though, that he's not like. That I was reading something last night that was like this type of injury. The leg movement comes back first and like. People are more likely to be paralyzed waist down. That hasn't happened as he gets better. He should get feeling in his hands as well.

• 44:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, I I hope that's it's scary because I think we're so conditioned to seeing these injuries and then like within an hour. Getting a tweet from somebody being like, he's at the hospital has full movement in his entire body. And we've seen that so many times that we kind of you lose sight of like how dangerous a a normal looking tackle like that can be. And so, yeah, it's I would agree, though, that like the team. It's got to be very, very hard for them.

• 45:00Speaker 00

  Emotional, yeah.

• 45:01Speaker 02

  It's like they're dealing with a friend that's in the hospital in pretty bad shape right now. That's gonna be very, very hard on that team.

• 45:09Speaker 00

  And then they are going across the the the pond next week for an international game. Just a weird kind of situation where it's like, hey, the Dolphins are not very good. Outdoor game, long grass. Like, I don't know. Just just feels like one of those games that the Lions might might be a little bit slow to get going.

• 45:30Speaker 02

  I think this also might be like Dan Campbell looking into a a past version of himself in a couple of different ways. One, obviously, the he was the interim coach of the Dolphins back in the day. Two, he's been saying and and Halley's made allusions to it that the Dolphins team is kind of like. The Lions team when Dan Campbell took over, like the way that they're playing, how hungry they are, how young they are. And I feel like I I do. They've been having some backdoor covers recently. They're playing hard.

• 45:58Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  This might be if I were to make a hungry dog. I would. I would look at the Dolphins very hard.

• 46:05Speaker 00

  You would?

• 46:06Speaker 02

  I would look at the Dolphins very hard if I were to make my own hungry dog.

• 46:09Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:09Speaker 02

  But I don't, and I'm not gonna ask if anybody else.

• 46:12Speaker 00

  It's Thursday.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  It is Thursday, so it's way too early to do that. I was also looking up some of the old stories of Dan Campbell as interim head coach of the Dolphins.

• 46:20Speaker 00

  When he was when he was just like Metallica and just spread the the widest spread of all time at the podium.

• 46:27Speaker 02

  Yep, and he would. He would. He would play Metallica during practices. First week, first day, I think. He was like, we're gonna do Oklahoma drills. We're gonna do tug of war. And then on the second day, the offense walked in and they had black jerseys to wear in practice. They're like, what is this? And he was like, this is because you won the drills yesterday, so you get to wear the black jerseys. And then the players were like, okay, thanks, Dan. But then he was so excited about giving those out as trophies. That the team started to get excited and competitive about who gets to wear the black jerseys. And that was the start of something special for those Dolphins. Then they did not hire him and instead I believe they hired Adam Gase.

• 47:03Speaker 00

  So it's a revenge game. Also revenge game for Chris Greer. Did you know Chris Greer works for the Lions?

• 47:09Speaker 02

  Yes, I did.

• 47:10Speaker 00

  Former GM for the Dolphins is now personnel advisor with the Detroit Lions. So I don't know if that matters. Probably doesn't, but still Chris Greer revenge game.

• 47:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, if if an assistant, not even assistant, right? Just like another set of eyes.

• 47:25Speaker 00

  He's just a personnel advisor.

• 47:27Speaker 02

  He has an office.

• 47:28Speaker 00

  He's an advisor.

• 47:28Speaker 02

  He has a.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  He might not even have an office.

• 47:30Speaker 02

  He's got a key card.

• 47:31Speaker 00

  He might. He might not even have that. He might just be doing it remote.

• 47:34Speaker 02

  He has. He.

• 47:37Speaker 00

  Like, I could totally see him just doing this job remote.

• 47:39Speaker 02

  He talks with people that are on the Lions every day.

• 47:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, at at least multiple times a week.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Well, at least the switchboard operator.

• 47:47Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 47:47Speaker 02

  And sometimes the front desk, they're like, I'm sorry, he's not available right now. Can he call you back later?

• 47:51Speaker 00

  Yes, yes. So, yeah, that's a revenge game for him. Yeah, and I I don't know. There's something. Dolphins are just they're playing a little frisky ball, playing a little bit of frisky ball, so. I I. Yeah, they're they're one of those ugly ones that I'm just gonna circle and just be like, this is hold your nose kind of thing.

• 48:11Speaker 02

  This also could be a Lions team that Dan Campbell somehow has like more locked in than they've ever been before. And they might not lose a game for the rest of the season. I could see. I could see that happening, but I. If I were to make a hungry dog, Max, what about you? Max, if you were to make a hungry dog.

• 48:27Speaker 02

  Would you think about the Dolphins?

• 48:29Speaker 06

  Dolphins? Me personally, no.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  Okay. What about?

• 48:32Speaker 06

  I got a I got a couple of hungry dogs. Dolphins aren't one of them.

• 48:34Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 48:35Speaker 06

  Uh, not Dolphins, probably lean more Colts.

• 48:39Speaker 02

  Oh, memes, if you were to make a hungry dog, would the Dolphins be in consideration? I lean Jets. Not this week. Not this week.

• 48:44Speaker 00

  Okay, anyone else? Like the Dolphins?

• 48:50Speaker 00

  No. Okay. Okay. All right. We'll move on. Browns Saints. Browns Saints. Saints minus three over under is 42 and a half. The Deshaun Watson legacy game, according to Dom.

• 49:02Speaker 02

  Well, is it the Shador legacy game?

• 49:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's Deshaun Watson legacy game. And if Shador wins, then Deshaun Watson's legacy. Now his sterling legacy will now be tarnished forever.

• 49:12Speaker 02

  Because Shador got in.

• 49:13Speaker 00

  Because Shador got in and won the game. And I don't think you lose the Deshaun Watson legacy game just because Deshaun Watson's now in the concussion.

• 49:20Speaker 02

  Cause if Shador wins this game, then it becomes, is Deshaun Watson a system quarterback?

• 49:24Speaker 00

  Correct. Yeah. Right. And so, and if Shador like is terrible, everyone's like, Deshaun Watson is the best quarterback we've ever had on the Browns.

• 49:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:35Speaker 00

  His legacy should be yelled from the top of the mountain.

• 49:39Speaker 02

  If the Browns win this game, is it party at fours? Is he still gonna throw, like host the affair after the game?

• 49:46Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 49:46Speaker 02

  I think he has to. If you keep winning, you gotta.

• 49:48Speaker 00

  You gotta go party at fours.

• 49:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. You gotta keep up with it.

• 49:51Speaker 00

  Shador had an interesting press conference this week when he was asked about Brandon Staley's defense, the Saints defense, and he just started laughing. And then he said, because I'm laughing, that's actually me showing maturity.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  He said, yeah, I've seen a lot. When I smile, just know that means something. I'm maturing. You know what I'm saying? I'm maturing. Like I could have gave that a decent answer, but now I'm just gonna smile. So he sees something in this Browns defense.

• 50:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  But he actually won't tell you that he saw something.

• 50:18Speaker 00

  No, he won't.

• 50:19Speaker 02

  On the Saints defense.

• 50:20Speaker 00

  Saints defense. By the way, Jordan Tyson might be back. He actually said, so Jordan Tyson on the Saints, which would be nice because they, they kind of have built everything out of Chris Olave, giving Shuck another option would be nice. But Jordan Tyson said that he's got a, he's had a hamstring injury. He said, I ran the, I feel more explosive than I ever have. So he's got a, he's got an injury that made him faster.

• 50:47Speaker 02

  Good.

• 50:48Speaker 00

  That's something to be excited about if you're a Saints fan.

• 50:49Speaker 02

  It's like rookie of the year.

• 50:51Speaker 00

  Saints are one of those teams that like, I just kind of forgot existed for a second there.

• 50:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. The whole like the France thing too.

• 50:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. And there's been a bummer.

• 50:58Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 50:59Speaker 00

  It's been a bummer to watch.

• 51:00Speaker 02

  They're also, I don't think that they've won a game at home this year, which is, which is tough, tough, tough season for the Dome.

• 51:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  So when are we gonna know about Deshaun? When is that gonna be like?

• 51:12Speaker 00

  I think it's Friday.

• 51:14Speaker 02

  Is we're officially going with Shador?

• 51:15Speaker 00

  Well, Deshaun went into concussion protocol on what Wednesday? It's, it's like, kind of hard to get out of it.

• 51:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 51:22Speaker 00

  Quickly, right?

• 51:22Speaker 02

  You never want to see Deshaun Watson questionable head.

• 51:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. In concussion protocol. Oof.

• 51:30Speaker 02

  It's tough.

• 51:31Speaker 00

  Oof. Does anyone like the Browns in this game?

• 51:35Speaker 02

  I do.

• 51:35Speaker 00

  Oh, okay.

• 51:38Speaker 06

  I like him a lot.

• 51:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, a lot.

• 51:40Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 51:40Speaker 02

  Really? Like, like more than a friend? Like like like them?

• 51:43Speaker 06

  Like like like, yeah.

• 51:44Speaker 00

  Okay. But it's Thursday, so we're not gonna put him in.

• 51:48Speaker 06

  No, we're not.

• 51:49Speaker 00

  But we like him.

• 51:49Speaker 02

  Would you like him more or less, or exactly the same if you knew that it was gonna be Shador or Deshaun?

• 51:56Speaker 06

  I feel like if it's Deshaun, how much of a point swing do you think that is too?

• 52:01Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:03Speaker 06

  I like him either way.

• 52:04Speaker 00

  Are you gonna wear a watch to the gambling cave on Sunday?

• 52:08Speaker 06

  No.

• 52:08Speaker 00

  You should.

• 52:09Speaker 06

  I'm not a watch guy.

• 52:11Speaker 00

  But for Shadus.

• 52:14Speaker 06

  Perfect timing. I mean, I don't have, I don't have, I don't have ice like that though.

• 52:17Speaker 02

  Who is our watch guy? Is it Zach? Is he the watch?

• 52:20Speaker 06

  Max.

• 52:20Speaker 02

  Max is? Max is big watch guy.

• 52:22Speaker 06

  Max. Watch TikTok.

• 52:25Speaker 06

  Yeah. Watch guys come in all different shapes and sizes.

• 52:27Speaker 00

  All right. What are you?

• 52:28Speaker 04

  Some guy did make a TikTok about that because he's noticed that I was wearing a watch.

• 52:32Speaker 06

  You'll never, you'll never believe.

• 52:34Speaker 00

  Wait, what? Shut up.

• 52:35Speaker 06

  Can we pull it so funny?

• 52:36Speaker 04

  I have no idea.

• 52:37Speaker 06

  It's the funniest video.

• 52:38Speaker 00

  We gotta find it.

• 52:39Speaker 04

  Some.

• 52:40Speaker 00

  A common misconception.

• 52:41Speaker 06

  Yeah. It was such a ricochet. It's like, you'll never believe.

• 52:45Speaker 04

  You'll never guess that this guy likes nice watches.

• 52:48Speaker 00

  Like they have. And it was talking about you?

• 52:50Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 52:50Speaker 00

  That's fucked up. Oh, that's incredible. We gotta see it.

• 52:55Speaker 04

  I like, don't know how to find this.

• 52:57Speaker 00

  You gotta find it. Hank's gonna find it.

• 52:59Speaker 06

  I don't know.

• 53:00Speaker 00

  That's such a me, that's messed up. I'm gonna say that's messed up, Max. Who's the, what was the guy's account?

• 53:06Speaker 06

  He like does like, he like will show pictures of like, you know, players walking in the tunnel and stuff, and then break down the watch they're wearing. And then he was like, I think he literally said, watch people come in all different shapes and sizes.

• 53:17Speaker 00

  Oh, shapes.

• 53:19Speaker 04

  I don't think he said, I think Hank's adding the shapes.

• 53:22Speaker 00

  Shapes is so much meatier than size.

• 53:25Speaker 04

  Keep talking. I'll, I'll try and find it.

• 53:27Speaker 00

  We gotta find this. I'm, I'm very excited. All right.

• 53:32Speaker 00

  Hungry dog Browns, possibly. They are, they are a dog. Like it. I, I don't know what to, I, I'll tell you what, I might just bet the Browns first quarter because the Saints just start so slow in every single game. And I don't, I, I feel like having off the bye week, they're gonna start even slower. I don't know how that's possible, but it feels like it. Kellmore is sixth and 18 against the first half spread as a head coach in his career. That's crazy. Six and 18. All right, Max, since you're looking for it, I'll.

• 54:01Speaker 04

  I got it. I got it.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  Oh, you found it? All right, let's go.

• 54:05Speaker 00

  This is a watch guy. Max, do you have a lot of watches?

• 54:10Speaker 04

  I have two.

• 54:11Speaker 00

  Oh, no. I see Glenn Tape Scout has got a video on there.

• 54:15Speaker 02

  No.

• 54:17Speaker 00

  Oh, no. I get all this guy.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  Oh, it's a sad, it's a sad Super Bowl picture in the background with the pants.

• 54:25Speaker 00

  Max has gotta put it in his birthday.

• 54:28Speaker 04

  This is.

• 54:30Speaker 04

  Oh, shit.

• 54:33Speaker 04

  I don't know how, I don't know how to log it. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Good job, Zach.

• 54:37Speaker 00

  QR code. Come on.

• 54:40Speaker 04

  Sometimes the most unexpected people are watch guys. This is the producer of Pardon My Take, Max Delante. And what's on his wrist, you might ask? A Tudor Black Bay Pro. So I went to the Grand to see who he follows. And it's Andy and Ben. So yeah, certified watch guy.

• 55:00Speaker 00

  We started again. Is that it?

• 55:02Speaker 04

  That's it.

• 55:03Speaker 00

  It wasn't shapes and sizes?

• 55:04Speaker 04

  No. I told you, who do you think added shapes and sizes?

• 55:08Speaker 00

  We started, play.

• 55:09Speaker 04

  He just said it's an unexpected guy. Enjoy watching.

• 55:12Speaker 06

  That's disappointing. I had that made up in my mind.

• 55:14Speaker 00

  I'm gonna go with shapes and sizes.

• 55:17Speaker 04

  Sometimes the most unexpected people.

• 55:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, we're gonna go with Hank's version. This is like Taylor's version, the, the.

• 55:23Speaker 02

  That's kind of what he meant.

• 55:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:24Speaker 02

  You can hear.

• 55:24Speaker 00

  Watch guys come in all shapes and sizes.

• 55:28Speaker 04

  Shout out Patrick, the, the bare wrist. I think that's me.

• 55:32Speaker 00

  All right.

• 55:32Speaker 02

  Bare wrist.

• 55:33Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 55:35Speaker 00

  Okay, Max. Giants Eagles. Eagles plus three and a half. Bazooka Joe time. Let's talk about it.

• 55:43Speaker 04

  Fuck it.

• 55:44Speaker 00

  Fuck it.

• 55:44Speaker 04

  Fuck it.

• 55:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:45Speaker 04

  Why not?

• 55:46Speaker 00

  Exactly.

• 55:47Speaker 04

  Oh, I, I saw a little something from Hank.

• 55:50Speaker 00

  He might.

• 55:51Speaker 04

  Saw a little something from Hank.

• 55:53Speaker 06

  It's backup week.

• 55:54Speaker 04

  It's backup week. Joe Milton, um, I don't know if he's gonna be an excellent quarterback in the NFL, but I do think.

• 56:02Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no, no, no. I think we know.

• 56:05Speaker 04

  No, no, no, no, no. People get better from college. That you, you like to just say that you like to do this take that nobody, nobody's ever watched Joe Milton from college.

• 56:14Speaker 00

  He has played in the NFL.

• 56:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's played well.

• 56:17Speaker 00

  And he also has not made, like, he's on his, what, third or fourth team? And he's played against guys in practice and training camp and not become the number one. You're on your fourth quarterback.

• 56:28Speaker 02

  He's looked pretty good.

• 56:29Speaker 00

  What are we talking about? You're on your fourth quarterback.

• 56:31Speaker 02

  When he has, when he has played, he's looked decent.

• 56:34Speaker 04

  Well, we're gonna give him a shot.

• 56:35Speaker 00

  In preseason?

• 56:36Speaker 02

  He's looked good.

• 56:37Speaker 04

  But we're on our fourth quarterback. This is the first time we've chosen somebody else.

• 56:41Speaker 00

  What?

• 56:42Speaker 02

  Yeah. They brought him in.

• 56:45Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 56:46Speaker 00

  We, you drafted Tanner McKee.

• 56:48Speaker 04

  But we chose to bench, like Jalen Hurts, we didn't choose not to blame Jalen Hurts.

• 56:53Speaker 00

  I see what you're saying, I guess.

• 56:54Speaker 04

  Andy Dalton, I guess we chose not to.

• 56:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, you chose, you chose Tanner McKee over Andy Dalton.

• 57:01Speaker 04

  No, there was some weird stuff going on there. Andy Dalton, he felt disrespected or something was going on there. And then.

• 57:09Speaker 00

  First one you've chosen.

• 57:10Speaker 04

  This is the first one we've chosen. The first one I've chosen.

• 57:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. They say Jalen Hurts was chosen.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  There's massive upside.

• 57:17Speaker 04

  Well, that doesn't count.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  To the Joe Milton experience.

• 57:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, why not?

• 57:20Speaker 02

  And it, listen, Saquon Barkley, he's a tough guy. If anyone can catch screen passes from Joe Milton, it's probably Saquon. Strong hands.

• 57:28Speaker 04

  Cause yeah, correct. Love that take.

• 57:29Speaker 02

  He's gonna fire some fucking laser beams and you have to be able to handle those. I think Saquon can do it. Although Saquon is probably like, there's no way that his hamstring is right.

• 57:39Speaker 00

  No.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  He's just saying that it is because he's a tough guy and he wants to, he loves to play and I respect the hell out of him.

• 57:44Speaker 00

  Let's play the Giants.

• 57:45Speaker 02

  But there's absolutely no way that, that his hamstring is like a hundred percent.

• 57:48Speaker 04

  I, and I think the stadium is gonna be a little bit more juiced up for Joe Milton than if we just saw Tanner McKee back out there. Like the vibes are a little bit different in Philly this week because it's Joe Milton.

• 57:58Speaker 00

  Cause Bazooka Joe.

• 58:00Speaker 04

  Why not? Why not?

• 58:01Speaker 00

  I'm, I'm, I am going to ladder Joe Milton.

• 58:04Speaker 04

  It's gonna be fun.

• 58:04Speaker 00

  I'm going to root for Joe Milton.

• 58:06Speaker 06

  This game should be on main TV.

• 58:07Speaker 00

  All right. I'm, I'm down for that. I'm gonna root for Joe Milton.

• 58:09Speaker 04

  I don't know about that.

• 58:10Speaker 00

  I want Joe Milton to have a fun, exciting game. I'm just not gonna be like, oh, he's, he could be the next guy.

• 58:16Speaker 04

  I'm not saying that either. I'm saying he could be fun.

• 58:18Speaker 00

  Started this with like, he might not be excellent. I'm like, no, he isn't excellent.

• 58:21Speaker 04

  He is not excellent. Yeah. I started, I started with, he might not be excellent.

• 58:25Speaker 00

  But I'm saying he.

• 58:26Speaker 04

  All right.

• 58:27Speaker 02

  No, yeah.

• 58:27Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah. You know what this is?

• 58:30Speaker 00

  This is it, Max.

• 58:31Speaker 04

  This is me off about you.

• 58:32Speaker 02

  This is naysayer, Kat.

• 58:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:33Speaker 02

  Yep. Bo Nix will never be good.

• 58:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:35Speaker 00

  What are you talking about? I've said Bo Nix is exactly who he is.

• 58:39Speaker 02

  You've got college poison brain. Sometimes guys get better.

• 58:42Speaker 04

  Sometimes, a lot of times, Josh Allen got better.

• 58:45Speaker 02

  Josh Allen got a lot better.

• 58:45Speaker 04

  Josh Allen got a lot better.

• 58:47Speaker 00

  Right, right away.

• 58:48Speaker 04

  Racist.

• 58:49Speaker 00

  What?

• 58:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:50Speaker 02

  How? Facts, facts.

• 58:52Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 58:52Speaker 02

  Huh? We're doing woke again. Tell him, tell him.

• 58:54Speaker 00

  How am I racist? You just blame me for Bo Nix. You blame me for Joe Milton. What are we doing?

• 58:59Speaker 04

  All right, that's.

• 59:00Speaker 00

  What are we doing?

• 59:01Speaker 04

  Wait a minute. Yeah. Wait, no.

• 59:03Speaker 00

  No, those are two different colors.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  Bo Nix is a white man.

• 59:06Speaker 04

  If Joe Milton was white guy, he'd be like, oh yeah, he's gonna, he has real potential in this league.

• 59:10Speaker 00

  But then what about Bo Nix?

• 59:12Speaker 02

  Imagine if Bo Nix was black. Imagine how bad Big Cat would talk about him. Jesus.

• 59:19Speaker 00

  It's crazy. You guys are crazy.

• 59:21Speaker 02

  No, I, listen, I, I like Joe Milton. If you catch him on a good day, he is the most dynamic, fun guy. And if he has a bad day, it's very sad. But I think that this is gonna be a good day.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  This is gonna be a fun day.

• 59:33Speaker 02

  Jordan Mylotta, I was asked about his arm. He just goes, it's a fucking cannon. And I, I went back, I looked at the combine where they, they both participated in the, the gun drill where they did the radar gun on the throws. JJ and Joe Milton, they were the two strongest arms that got measured on that. They also both played at Michigan. Fun fact.

• 59:52Speaker 04

  Giants had Joe Milton. Down his gold jacket coming out.

• 59:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's right.

• 59:55Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 59:57Speaker 00

  I'm not rooting against Joe Milton.

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  You're not rooting for Joe Milton, though.

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  I just watched like PFT is biased because he had Joe Milton on macrodosing. You're biased because you didn't watch him in college.

• 1:00:08Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 1:00:09Speaker 00

  So I, yeah.

• 1:00:10Speaker 04

  But I've seen him sling it.

• 1:00:12Speaker 00

  But right, but I feel like I'm the only one who's unbiased here.

• 1:00:15Speaker 04

  But you're thinking too much about college.

• 1:00:19Speaker 04

  Big T, Big T likes him.

• 1:00:21Speaker 02

  Well, Big T also has a bet. So his bet.

• 1:00:25Speaker 00

  He's, he's buying.

• 1:00:26Speaker 02

  This is also, this is.

• 1:00:27Speaker 04

  No, but that's, that's stemmed from him believing in Joe Milton.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, this is a very important game for, for our Thanksgivings because if Joe Milton plays poorly, they have, they have a buy, right? And during that buy, you could speculate, they'll probably use that time in the bye week to get Cole Payton ready and see what they have. If, if Joe Milton sucks this week, right?

• 1:00:46Speaker 04

  Correct.

• 1:00:47Speaker 02

  So then our Thanksgiving coming up later, the week after might be absolutely screwed because we're gonna maybe watch Tanner McKee again on Thanksgiving.

• 1:00:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't want to, I'll say, I'll say that.

• 1:00:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:56Speaker 00

  I definitely want to watch Joe Milton over Tanner McKee.

• 1:00:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:00:58Speaker 00

  Seen enough Tanner McKee, done with Tanner McKee.

• 1:01:00Speaker 04

  No, Tanner McKee's done. I, I'm also reserving right to get excited for Cole Payton as well.

• 1:01:06Speaker 00

  Okay, that's fine. Yeah, no, it's, it, you can get excited for a guy to like, once, once, but like Tanner McKee gave us exactly what I hate about backup quarterbacks.

• 1:01:15Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was so boring.

• 1:01:17Speaker 00

  Dog shit watch.

• 1:01:19Speaker 04

  I'm still holding on to Todd McShay did really like Cole Payton coming out, coming out of the draft.

• 1:01:23Speaker 00

  That's right. Can I say something?

• 1:01:24Speaker 06

  There's also a game before Thanksgiving they play against the Steelers.

• 1:01:27Speaker 02

  That's what I said. So there's, there's the bye week and then they'll, they'll probably get somebody else ready if Joe sucks this week. And then either stick with Cole Payton after that, or they might even go back to Tanner McKee.

• 1:01:38Speaker 04

  Who can't go back.

• 1:01:39Speaker 02

  Payton stinks.

• 1:01:39Speaker 04

  Can't go back.

• 1:01:40Speaker 00

  Not that it matters because I would assume this is, you're not thinking you could still win the NFC East?

• 1:01:46Speaker 04

  No, I'm thinking fun. Eh, maybe. Maybe Joe Milton gets us, gets us hot.

• 1:01:50Speaker 00

  You guys got kind of screwed with the schedule. The fact that you had to play the commanders off a bye and now the Giants off a bye is bullshit.

• 1:01:57Speaker 04

  There was someone, we played the Panthers off a bye too.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't care about.

• 1:02:01Speaker 04

  But three out of four weeks when we had nobody, we played guys coming off a bye.

• 1:02:04Speaker 00

  I don't care about the Panthers. I'm saying divisional.

• 1:02:06Speaker 04

  That was the worst because we were coming back from London and we had to play the Panthers.

• 1:02:09Speaker 00

  For sure, but the divisional games, when, when, divisional games, you should never have an rest advantage. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:02:14Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:02:15Speaker 00

  It should be just straight up. So you guys got screwed there. Uh, I do think that the, the Giants are going to be able to run the ball. So I think I saw the stat, I think the Eagles have given up a hundred plus yards in every game, running the ball. So it feels like a big scataboo type of game where that maybe opens it up for J.J. McCarthy.

• 1:02:35Speaker 02

  Max, I'm going to be rooting very hard for the Eagles.

• 1:02:38Speaker 04

  Love that. Hell yeah. Love that.

• 1:02:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, you have to.

• 1:02:41Speaker 02

  Have to, have to.

• 1:02:42Speaker 00

  You have to.

• 1:02:43Speaker 02

  I think the division might come down to me and you, Max.

• 1:02:45Speaker 04

  Why not? Joe Milton gets hot.

• 1:02:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:47Speaker 00

  What's the updated, uh, the, the line for the division?

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  I'm pretty sure the Eagles are like plus a million.

• 1:02:55Speaker 00

  Also, this, uh, it's thirty eight and a half is the over under. That's pretty low. Kind of feel like I have to take the over. What if a shootout breaks out? Joe Milton, J.J. McCarthy. Alright, so the commanders are, uh, five to one. The Eagles are thirty three to one. I don't think you can say it anymore, PFT.

• 1:03:13Speaker 02

  But no, Joe, Bazooka Joe breathes new life into this whole thing.

• 1:03:18Speaker 04

  He does.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  It's gonna be, you're gonna be living your life BJ and AJ and before Joe, we can throw all this out.

• 1:03:25Speaker 04

  And then we got the, the buy coming up. Maybe guys get healthy coming off the buy, you know, who knows?

• 1:03:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:30Speaker 00

  Uh, by the way, over the last six games, the Eagles have lost every game, been outrushed in every game, been outpassed in every game, committed five plus penalties in every game. No other NFL team in the Super Bowl era has done that in more than four consecutive games. They've done it in six.

• 1:03:45Speaker 04

  Lot of injuries.

• 1:03:47Speaker 00

  I will say that like, if you're gonna have a season from hell, just make it like, actually do it from hell, you know? You guys are doing it. Like, you're really doing it.

• 1:03:56Speaker 04

  We'll be back.

• 1:03:57Speaker 00

  This year?

• 1:03:58Speaker 04

  No, no.

• 1:04:01Speaker 02

  Uh, Max, this is not the reason why you're losing games, but are you concerned at all about Jake Smalley?

• 1:04:07Speaker 04

  I'm always a little concerned. I mean, his name, I, I call him Smelly it for a reason.

• 1:04:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:04:12Speaker 00

  Why? Does he smell?

• 1:04:13Speaker 02

  Well, no, there was just, there was one moment, I think it was last, yeah, if you look at last week's games, I think there were six doinks last week and Smelly it had a doink and I feel like I've never seen him make a doink.

• 1:04:26Speaker 00

  Did you come up with Smelly it?

• 1:04:28Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:04:29Speaker 00

  Fleming.

• 1:04:30Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:04:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:32Speaker 04

  I mean, we do a segment on the show where we have to come up with.

• 1:04:36Speaker 00

  Right, but that's a, but calling him that outside of boomers.

• 1:04:39Speaker 04

  PFT just called him that.

• 1:04:40Speaker 00

  Well, you said, but then you immediately said, I call him that.

• 1:04:44Speaker 04

  Because I say it in boomers often.

• 1:04:47Speaker 00

  Fleming.

• 1:04:48Speaker 04

  Because.

• 1:04:49Speaker 02

  You're concerned about him.

• 1:04:50Speaker 04

  We, this is literally what, what we do every single week on this show. Every single one of us is Fleming, if that's the case.

• 1:04:57Speaker 00

  Buster Olney's head is spinning right now.

• 1:04:59Speaker 04

  I didn't say a thing about Buster Olney.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  This is Sal Antonio is so happy, smiling.

• 1:05:07Speaker 04

  Smelly is a good one.

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  It is a good one, yeah. And that's not the reason why the Eagles are bad.

• 1:05:11Speaker 00

  Uh, do you want to?

• 1:05:12Speaker 02

  I just think it's interesting because I did look it up and he's one for fifteen lifetime on doinks, which would put him, I think that's the worst if you have more than ten doinks.

• 1:05:20Speaker 00

  Do you guys want a, a crazy, uh, whoa stat for the Giants to potentially make the playoffs this year? Last time the Giants made the playoffs was the twenty twenty-two season. That was the Daniel Jones, uh.

• 1:05:34Speaker 00

  Here's what happened in that season and what also happened this season. Hired a new head coach in the offseason, check. Had two first round picks in the draft, check. Drafted a defensive player and O lineman in the first round, check. Declined a player's fifth year option. I don't know who that's referring to. Who did they decline this year? Oh, was it, uh, was it one of their offensive linemen, maybe? Played against the AFC South, played the Lions, played the NFC North team away in week sixteen and tied against the commanders. These all happened in twenty twenty-two.

• 1:06:07Speaker 02

  Okay. Unbelievable.

• 1:06:08Speaker 00

  Tied in the commanders is really the, the linchpin for all of this.

• 1:06:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:11Speaker 00

  Cause that's the craziest part.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  That is nuts.

• 1:06:13Speaker 00

  Everything else is like, okay, the schedule is kind of the same.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  I mean, J.J. looked, he looked really good, really good against a good defense. Well, theoretically a good defense.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, we did the Texans might stick, but, uh, I'm excited for Bazooka Joe. You sound Hank? I'm down. Fuck it.

• 1:06:28Speaker 04

  Nah, nah, nah.

• 1:06:29Speaker 00

  Why not?

• 1:06:31Speaker 04

  This isn't a game, this, this isn't a game that I should have to listen to. It's, eh, maybe, maybe.

• 1:06:36Speaker 02

  Do that, do the earmuffs the whole time.

• 1:06:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:40Speaker 06

  There's no good games.

• 1:06:41Speaker 00

  There's no good games. I guess the, the Brock, with the Broncos Panthers, is that early?

• 1:06:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:06:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, so that's, that's probably it. Uh, alright, next up Rams, commanders, commanders plus four and a half, over under forty-eight and a half. I love the commanders against the spread.

• 1:06:55Speaker 02

  Me too, me too.

• 1:06:56Speaker 06

  Me three.

• 1:06:57Speaker 00

  This is, this is. More than that, Hank?

• 1:06:59Speaker 06

  I like him.

• 1:07:00Speaker 02

  Wait.

• 1:07:01Speaker 00

  Like him.

• 1:07:01Speaker 06

  I definitely like him against the spread.

• 1:07:02Speaker 02

  Like, like him?

• 1:07:04Speaker 06

  I like him against the spread.

• 1:07:05Speaker 02

  A little bit like, do you think that maybe they could, maybe they could convince you to like him a little bit more?

• 1:07:09Speaker 06

  I like him against the spread.

• 1:07:10Speaker 02

  Okay, like as a, as a friend.

• 1:07:11Speaker 00

  If the commanders were an animal, what type of animal would they be?

• 1:07:14Speaker 06

  A pig.

• 1:07:15Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:07:16Speaker 02

  Okay, I like that.

• 1:07:17Speaker 00

  That's a good answer.

• 1:07:18Speaker 02

  Respect.

• 1:07:18Speaker 00

  It's a really good answer.

• 1:07:19Speaker 02

  I think that if the commanders win this game, look out.

• 1:07:27Speaker 02

  This is, this game will determine my happiness level for the rest of the season.

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:07:33Speaker 02

  Because I've been doom and gloom on the commanders recently. And it's really just because even when it's really, really bright, there's always like one tiny bit of darkness that tends to ruin everything. Last week, looking back on it, that first quarter sucked against the Eagles. Sucked big time, but what I saw to Jaden was great when he actually got in people's faces and started yelling at them. I think that that might be a moment that we look back on, not necessarily start of the championship DVD, but maybe the start of the championship DVD, like two or maybe two years from now. That's when everything changed because he's always had a smile on his face. He's always happy. And at times it can be like, you shouldn't be smiling right now because this is something really terrible just happened.

• 1:08:16Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:08:17Speaker 02

  What I saw from when he, when he realized that things were going to shit, when we had like five pre-snap penalties and he started yelling at people, I love that from Jaden. I think if we can beat these Rams and the Rams are not, they're not a very good football team right now. Matt Stafford doesn't look great.

• 1:08:31Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:08:32Speaker 02

  Uh, I don't know if Miles Garrett's gonna play this week. He might. That, that's kind of concerning to me.

• 1:08:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:37Speaker 02

  That he's getting back.

• 1:08:37Speaker 00

  I would be concerned by that.

• 1:08:38Speaker 02

  He'll have to play his way back into shape a little bit, probably.

• 1:08:42Speaker 02

  I, if we can beat the Rams, look out because then I think we beat the Giants the week after.

• 1:08:48Speaker 00

  Then you can, then you could maybe win the NFC.

• 1:08:51Speaker 02

  Then we could maybe win the NFC East because we would have games coming up against the Cardinals, the Titans, the Texans.

• 1:08:57Speaker 00

  And you have two against Cowboys?

• 1:08:58Speaker 02

  And we have one against the Cowboys.

• 1:09:00Speaker 00

  Oh, you, wait, you already played the Cowboys?

• 1:09:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  Oh, that was the.

• 1:09:03Speaker 02

  Jayden elbow, yeah.

• 1:09:04Speaker 00

  Yep, yep, yep, yep, yep, yep.

• 1:09:06Speaker 02

  So like, it, the way the offense has been playing has been for the most part really, really good with a couple boneheaded mistakes here and there. Jaden's been playing awesome. I would, I, I'm going to say something about Dan Orlovsky. I didn't think I'd say, Dan Orlovsky's right. He'd like to see Jayden take a, a little more chance with the ball because he has no fumbles and no interceptions this year, no turnovers, which is awesome. He's like, if you look at the charts or the graphs, he's in the top right hand corner of all those. I wouldn't mind him taking a few more chances, throw in some more deep balls. It's okay if one of those gets picked off every now and again.

• 1:09:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  Um, but he's been playing awesome football and I think the defense has started to look a little bit better too, so look out if we win this game.

• 1:09:50Speaker 00

  Look out if we win this game.

• 1:09:51Speaker 02

  I will be fully back in thinking dangerous thoughts about the commanders if we win this game.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  And if you don't win this game, season over?

• 1:09:59Speaker 02

  Probably season over, yeah.

• 1:10:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, but, well, so that's, that's not a no.

• 1:10:04Speaker 02

  Probably season over.

• 1:10:05Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 1:10:06Speaker 02

  I think it's very likely season over.

• 1:10:08Speaker 00

  But that was not a no.

• 1:10:09Speaker 02

  I mean, if, if the Eagles beat the Giants.

• 1:10:11Speaker 00

  You win in the, yeah, you win in the division.

• 1:10:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, they, we, it might be a division where the winner's at like seven and 10 or eight and nine. So we'll, we'll see what happens as everything else breaks down. I would say that if we lose this game, it's probably, it's probably over. That's curtains. If we win, look out.

• 1:10:26Speaker 00

  Jay Daniels also said nothing, nobody is bigger than the standard. I like that quote. So it's a new, it's a new elevated standard as standard and nobody's bigger than the standard.

• 1:10:34Speaker 02

  Not even the standard.

• 1:10:35Speaker 00

  Right. Also, last time these two teams or last time the Washington team beat the Rams team at home. It was Redskins beating the St. Louis Rams, Nick Foles versus Kirk Cousins. 2015.

• 1:10:50Speaker 02

  What a matchup that was.

• 1:10:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:10:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'm looking forward to Emmanuel Forbes making his return to land over Maryland. We're now, now we get to play against.

• 1:10:59Speaker 00

  From his illustrious career, yeah. I like the commanders of this game.

• 1:11:03Speaker 02

  I'm looking forward to playing against them. I'm looking, and I will be doing the Antonio ladder again. And it's going to break. And when it does, it's going to break hard.

• 1:11:11Speaker 00

  Remind me of it. Jalen Watson's out for the year.

• 1:11:13Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:11:14Speaker 00

  So, okay, yeah, remind me of it.

• 1:11:17Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:11:17Speaker 00

  Remind me the Antonio ladder. Okay, next up Broncos at Panthers, Panthers plus two and a half, over under is 44 and a half. Panthers, one of those teams I forgot existed because they were, uh, played Thursday night football. I just like, if you don't play on Sunday or Monday, you don't. I was like, oh yeah. And they also were terrible against the Packers. Broncos, listen, they just keep doing it. They keep, they keep playing great defense, giving Bo Nix a shot. Offense still doesn't look great. Who do you guys like in this game? Anyone had any thoughts?

• 1:11:53Speaker 02

  I've, I've got some thoughts.

• 1:11:54Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  I think it's interesting. It's always interesting, big cat, when you look at the Panthers and their underdogs at home. It's always worth taking a second look in a situation like that.

• 1:12:03Speaker 00

  Fair point.

• 1:12:04Speaker 02

  So I think I'll be taking a second look at that.

• 1:12:06Speaker 00

  Okay. And they kind of need this one.

• 1:12:08Speaker 02

  They very much need it, yeah. Like they're, they're a half game ahead of the Falcons right now.

• 1:12:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, and they, they went, you know, they were sitting at, what, what were they sitting at? Were they three and two? And they've gone basically immediately backwards as soon as the vibes started to feel a little bit good for them. They're like, oh, yep, we can't have nice things. Yeah, they were three and two. Then they got absolutely pummeled by the Bucks and beat pretty badly by the Packers as well. So they've gone backwards. They've gone backwards quickly. This is a massive game for them. They gotta start winning some games.

• 1:12:44Speaker 00

  I just, I just can't bet against the Broncos because they just keep getting away with it. Maybe they just keep doing it. And I, I think they're a very good team. I still don't think Bo Nix is like that good, but it doesn't matter because he wins it in the fourth quarter.

• 1:12:56Speaker 02

  I think, uh, this might be a good get right week too, for the, the Broncos rushing attack. Carolina's, uh, rush defense is really, really, really, really bad. They fired their defense coordinator who was like a, a hot name for a head coaching opportunity. But they've, they've stunk trying to stop the run. The Broncos would probably like to take advantage of that. I don't know, because the Panthers play really fast on offense. They're always like going no huddle, speeding it up. And the Broncos love to like grind games out. So if things don't go well for the Panthers, I could see this being a game that plays like right into the Broncos hands early.

• 1:13:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. There are also rumors that Bryce Young's about to get his extension. Did you see that?

• 1:13:39Speaker 02

  I did not know. I didn't hear those rumors.

• 1:13:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, there's, uh, they're, they're back channeling right now, talking about it. I don't really know what, I think I'd give him, I think I would.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  You know what we're in right now? This kind of feels like the conversation where it's like, you have to do it.

• 1:13:57Speaker 00

  Do you have to do it?

• 1:13:58Speaker 02

  Do you have to do it? I think, I think it's a, you have to do a conversation. I think there are people that are saying you have to extend him. Quarterbacks don't grow on trees, big cat.

• 1:14:07Speaker 00

  I think I'd do it.

• 1:14:11Speaker 00

  I think I'd do it. I, to see that right there tells you you shouldn't do it.

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you kind of have to.

• 1:14:15Speaker 00

  Right, you have to do it. But yeah, but saying anytime you're like, I think I'd do it.

• 1:14:19Speaker 02

  He's got, when he's at his best, he's, he's good.

• 1:14:22Speaker 00

  Or the other one that I, that I've done in the past where it's like, who else are you going to get?

• 1:14:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 1:14:28Speaker 00

  That's never, those aren't real answers.

• 1:14:30Speaker 02

  Cause like if you.

• 1:14:31Speaker 00

  You don't know.

• 1:14:32Speaker 02

  Quarterbacks don't let, teams don't let good quarterbacks hit the open market.

• 1:14:35Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  They don't trade away good quarterbacks.

• 1:14:38Speaker 00

  What's the answer here? Who else are you going to get?

• 1:14:40Speaker 02

  I think you have to do it.

• 1:14:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:14:42Speaker 02

  What, what is your option? You draft a guy late in the first round or in the middle of the first round?

• 1:14:47Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 1:14:47Speaker 02

  And then you pray that it works?

• 1:14:49Speaker 00

  I think you're kind of praying it works right now with the have to do it. I think it could work.

• 1:14:53Speaker 02

  But you've already, you've already put in so much prayer on this one. What I'm describing is a sunk cost fallacy.

• 1:14:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, but no, you haven't put a lot of prayer because you haven't paid him the big money.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Prayers are free.

• 1:15:05Speaker 00

  Would you guys do it?

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:09Speaker 00

  You would, oh, you, that's a yes. Not a, you think you would?

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, I feel like you have to. You know what? Exactly. You know what the best answer here is?

• 1:15:18Speaker 00

  You have to do it.

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  Zach, do you hope that the Panthers extend Bryce? Are, are you scared that they will extend Bryce?

• 1:15:26Speaker 00

  I hope they extend Bryce. Okay, then you can't do it. Then you can't do it.

• 1:15:29Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:29Speaker 00

  You can't do it. What?

• 1:15:32Speaker 04

  He's not the worst.

• 1:15:33Speaker 00

  No, no. We agree. I'm like, we actually are probably higher on Bryce Young than most podcasts, than most media people. And every, like, I don't want, I'm not bashing the guy because I have seen him play well and I've seen him play his potential. But every answer here is like how teams get stuck.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're, we're going through the process right now.

• 1:15:53Speaker 00

  Saying he's not the worst is like, that should tell you like, hey, don't pay him $70 million.

• 1:15:58Speaker 04

  Let me ask, let me ask one more question.

• 1:16:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:01Speaker 04

  Means, would you take Bryce Young?

• 1:16:04Speaker 00

  No. Okay. So this is, yeah, we're answered.

• 1:16:07Speaker 02

  Maybe you can't do it.

• 1:16:08Speaker 04

  I feel like the Jets would love Bryce Young.

• 1:16:10Speaker 00

  Panthers front office should just listen to this conversation.

• 1:16:13Speaker 02

  Cause you know, I, I had another thing I was going to say that I thought was in favor of extending Bryce Young. But the more I think about it, it's, it's actually not. I was going to say, remember they, they almost beat the Rams in the playoffs.

• 1:16:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, they did.

• 1:16:24Speaker 02

  And that is definitely one of the steps along the lines of you feel like you should extend this guy, but you shouldn't.

• 1:16:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. Would you extend, would you give CJ Stroud a new contract?

• 1:16:36Speaker 02

  I think you kind of.

• 1:16:37Speaker 00

  To me, that's yes.

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  You kind of got to do it.

• 1:16:39Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:16:39Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:16:40Speaker 00

  Oh, you're more.

• 1:16:41Speaker 02

  I think, I think, I think you do. And you don't, maybe you don't even have to do it.

• 1:16:45Speaker 04

  I think I'm taking Bryce Young over CJ Stroud right now.

• 1:16:49Speaker 02

  It's close.

• 1:16:49Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:16:50Speaker 02

  CJ's been good this year. He was, he was really bad last year and we've had.

• 1:16:54Speaker 04

  But they stink.

• 1:16:55Speaker 02

  Yeah, but he's playing good.

• 1:16:58Speaker 00

  CJ's ceiling also way higher. Would you give Bo Nix a long-term contract?

• 1:17:02Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:17:03Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:17:04Speaker 02

  Kind of racist.

• 1:17:05Speaker 00

  Okay. Yeah.

• 1:17:06Speaker 04

  I think you have to almost do like, uh, Bryce Young in NFC South, extend Bryce Young in AFC East. No, wouldn't extend. And you have to do it like, like CJ Stroud, AFC South would extend.

• 1:17:21Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:17:22Speaker 04

  You know what I'm saying?

• 1:17:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, that makes sense. Like Bryce can, he can win you that division.

• 1:17:28Speaker 00

  It's just very funny because again, like when you get in the, you have to do it. What's the other option? These are never, the answer should just be yes.

• 1:17:36Speaker 02

  We had that have to conversation. That was a, a two a conversation that we had.

• 1:17:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was exactly the two a conversation.

• 1:17:42Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:17:42Speaker 00

  And look where the Dolphins are.

• 1:17:44Speaker 02

  Now he's on the Falcons.

• 1:17:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. The minute you start saying, you just gotta do it.

• 1:17:50Speaker 02

  You kind of have to.

• 1:17:50Speaker 00

  You have to do it.

• 1:17:51Speaker 02

  Not a good.

• 1:17:52Speaker 00

  Who else are you going to get?

• 1:17:53Speaker 02

  Not great.

• 1:17:55Speaker 00

  I've done the who else are you going to get so many times? It's just like, I don't know, dude, just fucking.

• 1:17:59Speaker 02

  Someone?

• 1:18:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, someone. And then maybe draft someone else and then figure it out.

• 1:18:05Speaker 04

  But when you get into the, the cycle of keeping draft quarterbacks, it's the worst.

• 1:18:10Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, definitely, but.

• 1:18:11Speaker 04

  Like, look at the Titans.

• 1:18:12Speaker 00

  But, but having a not like, I would say having a guy who's like a 10 to, to 15 best quarterback and giving him a significant amount of money is maybe worse.

• 1:18:28Speaker 02

  No, not a 10.

• 1:18:29Speaker 00

  12, 14 to 20.

• 1:18:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, 14 to 20.

• 1:18:33Speaker 04

  14 to 20.

• 1:18:34Speaker 02

  That's where you run into problems.

• 1:18:34Speaker 00

  14 to 20, you give that guy.

• 1:18:36Speaker 04

  10 to 15, 10 to 15.

• 1:18:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. But 14 to 20.

• 1:18:40Speaker 04

  You can win with 10 to 15.

• 1:18:41Speaker 02

  Give me 10, you give me, give me 10.

• 1:18:42Speaker 00

  14 to 20, you give that guy a guaranteed long-term contract. That's, that's way worse than just being like, you know what? We'll just keep going to the roulette wheel on the, on the quarterbacks.

• 1:18:53Speaker 02

  Yep, I agree.

• 1:18:55Speaker 00

  Uh, okay, that was the early games.

• 1:18:59Speaker 00

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• 1:20:14Speaker 06

  In the hungry dog.

• 1:20:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:20:18Speaker 06

  Confirmed.

• 1:20:18Speaker 00

  I like that, Hank. Where we, there we go. I mean, I don't love it, but I don't love the charge. Chargers want to play the same game every week, but.

• 1:20:29Speaker 06

  This is the week.

• 1:20:29Speaker 00

  This is the week?

• 1:20:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:20:31Speaker 00

  Texans off a bye?

• 1:20:32Speaker 06

  Yep.

• 1:20:32Speaker 00

  Texans need it?

• 1:20:33Speaker 06

  Yep. Chargers need it.

• 1:20:35Speaker 00

  The Chargers don't need any.

• 1:20:36Speaker 02

  They do. You've been reading about how much time McDaniel's and Herbert spend together watching film?

• 1:20:42Speaker 06

  I have not.

• 1:20:43Speaker 02

  They're watching hours and hours of film.

• 1:20:45Speaker 06

  Love that. That's good.

• 1:20:45Speaker 02

  Just grinding.

• 1:20:46Speaker 06

  Are they like, is he pointing out like what, what color the defense team is wearing?

• 1:20:51Speaker 02

  That's a, that's a very funny joke.

• 1:20:53Speaker 00

  Who, who's doing that?

• 1:20:54Speaker 06

  Like McDaniel's is like the bad guys are in.

• 1:20:56Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:20:56Speaker 06

  They're gonna be in blue.

• 1:20:58Speaker 02

  Speaking of, I hope so.

• 1:20:59Speaker 00

  Speaking of watching film, Will Anderson does not watch anything in the NFL because he said this week, Herbert, man, he's playing out of his mind.

• 1:21:08Speaker 06

  He kind of is.

• 1:21:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, he, yeah.

• 1:21:10Speaker 00

  He also said he's still, he's still a really great quarterback in this league. You talk about a big guy who has a big arm that can run around and throw the ball deep, makes a lot of plays with his legs. Yeah, I don't think he's watched them this year.

• 1:21:21Speaker 06

  I think maybe. Chargers are wearing good uniforms too, Hank. Love that.

• 1:21:25Speaker 00

  Those are hungry dog uniforms.

• 1:21:26Speaker 06

  And I forgot to mention this. Also, the Eagles are wearing Kelly Green.

• 1:21:30Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. That's a big miss.

• 1:21:33Speaker 06

  Yeah. I'm, the handout, that's on me.

• 1:21:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:21:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, Will Anderson, I don't know if he's, I guess this is good though, because he respects Justin Herbert.

• 1:21:42Speaker 02

  I think he probably watched old film.

• 1:21:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:45Speaker 02

  That's, I think that's maybe where it went.

• 1:21:50Speaker 00

  Their losing streak. So this is actually the, if you want to go another fun, like wow stat, Hank, the Chargers losing streak started with the Texans, December 27th, December 27th last year. So it'd be a nice bookend. They could then, like, maybe it's the Texans curse.

• 1:22:09Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:22:09Speaker 00

  And they, they slay the dragon.

• 1:22:11Speaker 06

  Like that?

• 1:22:12Speaker 00

  They're on the way.

• 1:22:13Speaker 02

  This is, this is kind of a sad stat here. They haven't, the Chargers haven't scored a touchdown since the third quarter of week five.

• 1:22:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, 27 drives.

• 1:22:20Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:21Speaker 00

  The only one who's got more was Mike McDaniel.

• 1:22:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:22:24Speaker 00

  With 30 in the Dolphins. It's horrific.

• 1:22:26Speaker 02

  Third quarter of week five is so long.

• 1:22:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, it's, it's horrific watching this team. I don't want to watch this team play football. It's not fun. Nothing about it is fun.

• 1:22:35Speaker 02

  Both these teams really were, were so good last year in regular season and they're so bad now.

• 1:22:40Speaker 00

  I think the, I think the Texans are going to give you your best, their best ever. Off a bye, feels like they have to like, is it, this is now or never. If they lose this game, it's that they're, they're done, right?

• 1:22:50Speaker 02

  I would think so, yeah.

• 1:22:53Speaker 02

  The thing is, I think the Texans could turn it around because they got a lot of the same guys.

• 1:23:00Speaker 00

  The Chargers, they're done. Did you see that Quinton Lake from the Rams said that Justin Herbert was seeing ghosts and throwing deli meat to him last week?

• 1:23:09Speaker 02

  I saw the deli meat.

• 1:23:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. And Jim Harbaugh said, as far as anyone's opinion, I don't see that. Everybody's entitled to their opinion. That's not what I see. And then someone asked, what do you see? He said, pass game. I thought he did his job exceptionally well. Two throws he'd like to have back.

• 1:23:24Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:23:24Speaker 00

  I don't know. They haven't scored, you guys haven't scored a touchdown. A long ass touchdown.

• 1:23:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. And also is it me or if, if McDaniel's and, and Herbert watched four hours of film total during the bye week, that's really not that much film that they watched together.

• 1:23:39Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 1:23:40Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm, that's so many hours where they weren't watching film.

• 1:23:44Speaker 00

  I passed four hours of film by two, like Tuesday for the week, by Tuesday at, I don't know, 7:45.

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  I passed.

• 1:23:53Speaker 00

  And I do Monday night football and then whatever, Maxion or?

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  I passed four hours of film by, by Monday morning at noon.

• 1:24:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:02Speaker 02

  Get up, start grinding.

• 1:24:03Speaker 00

  Film, film watch.

• 1:24:04Speaker 02

  Forget victory Monday. It's tape watch Tuesday around here.

• 1:24:08Speaker 00

  Speaking of Packers, Patriots, Patriots minus three and a half, over, under 45 and a half to.

• 1:24:14Speaker 02

  Hungry dog?

• 1:24:16Speaker 06

  Nope.

• 1:24:19Speaker 00

  Can I give you something you'll, you'll like, Hank?

• 1:24:21Speaker 06

  Please.

• 1:24:24Speaker 00

  I don't, I don't think it's a 0% chance that this doesn't come back to bite him a little bit, but Jordan Love, his Halloween costume this year was blind refs with his wife.

• 1:24:35Speaker 06

  Interesting.

• 1:24:36Speaker 00

  I feel like if I'm a ref, I'm like, fuck this guy. I'm gonna, I'm not gonna give him any calls.

• 1:24:40Speaker 02

  It's kind of mean.

• 1:24:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:41Speaker 02

  It's kind of mean.

• 1:24:42Speaker 00

  They had the sticks and everything. I just, I'm not, again, it's probably, probably the refs didn't even see it because they're not online, but still I wouldn't take that risk.

• 1:24:51Speaker 02

  I, I think there's also a possibility they have a friendly relationship with a lot of refs.

• 1:24:54Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 1:24:55Speaker 02

  Because I've seen the pictures of the refs doing the Lambo leap.

• 1:24:57Speaker 00

  True.

• 1:24:58Speaker 02

  They're probably, they probably know each other. It's one of those like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna josh on you. You're gonna, the ref was probably dressed up as, as Jordan Love.

• 1:25:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25:05Speaker 02

  So it probably goes both ways.

• 1:25:06Speaker 00

  Okay. Oh, so we do have something from Glenn.

• 1:25:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't know. It's probably not about the Patriots though.

• 1:25:12Speaker 06

  Should I play now?

• 1:25:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, sure. Why not?

• 1:25:14Speaker 07

  Welcome back to another tape watch with me, Glenn. For all you gliniacs out there, the glintlemen, the glintle ladies, you guys make this page work. It is my page, but it's nothing without you guys visiting my page. So thank you very much. And to say thank you, as a little treat, let's start out and take a few calls from all the gliniacs out in there in Glenn NFL Nation.

• 1:25:38Speaker 06

  Hi Glenn, did you know that the Pats explosive play percentage is twice as good without AJ Brown?

• 1:25:44Speaker 07

  Whoa, that gets a whoa for me because no, I did not know that. But I did however, know that the percentage of Patriots drives that ended in a turnover is 20% with AJ Brown on the field. Without AJ Brown on the field, it drops down to 16.1%. I also knew that the percentage of Patriots drives that ended up on is at 33.3% with AJ Brown on the field. And without him on the field, it drops all the way down to 26.8%. I also knew that the percentage of drives that end in a touchdown with AJ Brown on the field is 23.3%. And without AJ Brown on the field, it's 25.0%. I also knew that Patriots fourth down conversions with AJ Brown on the field are one for free, 33%. Without AJ Brown on the field, they're nine for nine, 100%. I also knew that with AJ Brown on the field, the Patriots' second down success rate is 44%. Without Brown on the field, it's 48.6%.

• 1:26:24Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:26:25Speaker 07

  And yeah, I'll be damned. I just looked it up and you were right. Looks like their explosive play percentage drops from 11.9% to 7.9% when AJ Brown is on the field. I also know that the Patriots defense gets way more turnovers and takeaways when AJ Brown is not playing the game as opposed to when he is. It's almost like they don't want to reward him for his bad behavior by getting the ball back.

• 1:26:42Speaker 07

  Great question though, Hank. I mean, Miss Recallr, you get one Glenn helmet sticker. All right, this has been Glenn. Thanks for tuning in and we will catch you next week.

• 1:26:51Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 1:26:52Speaker 02

  It's interesting concept. I think the video bears it out. Also interesting stuff about AJ Brown on and off the field.

• 1:26:57Speaker 06

  Yeah, so this is small sample size, but.

• 1:26:59Speaker 00

  So wait, Hank, when did you say that? Or the caller? Did you call in?

• 1:27:03Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:27:05Speaker 00

  Huh. It sounded like you.

• 1:27:07Speaker 06

  It did.

• 1:27:09Speaker 02

  That wasn't you?

• 1:27:10Speaker 06

  It was not. I never called in.

• 1:27:12Speaker 00

  Wait, is AJ Brown gonna play?

• 1:27:14Speaker 06

  Questionable. Probably not.

• 1:27:16Speaker 00

  Then that's good. Yeah. Do you want him to play?

• 1:27:18Speaker 06

  I do want him to play.

• 1:27:19Speaker 00

  But do you see the stats from Glenn?

• 1:27:22Speaker 06

  I think it's such a small sample size that it does not matter.

• 1:27:26Speaker 00

  Okay. That's fair.

• 1:27:28Speaker 06

  Very. One of those games was the Seahawks, which was a shit show. So.

• 1:27:32Speaker 00

  Tough place to play. Really tough place.

• 1:27:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:27:34Speaker 02

  Really tough team to beat.

• 1:27:35Speaker 06

  Yeah, extremely.

• 1:27:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:39Speaker 00

  Only a couple of teams beat him. What?

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:27:43Speaker 06

  This is an interesting.

• 1:27:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:45Speaker 06

  Quote from Shefty.

• 1:27:46Speaker 00

  What? Say it.

• 1:27:49Speaker 06

  I know it says ankle and knee, but it's the knee. The knee held him out last week and the knee is threatening to hold him out this week. It's a knee that I think raises some concerns as to how long he's going to keep playing here in New England and producing at a high level.

• 1:28:03Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 1:28:05Speaker 06

  Yeah. I mean, we're, our, our receiving core is, is, is bad. Like the, the news came out that Matt Collins was practicing and that was like, considered like a big, like, great news to New England fans. And I love Matt Collins. I've known him a long time, but, but people like the amount of excitement there was that like a third or fourth string receiver is practicing.

• 1:28:24Speaker 02

  It's concerning.

• 1:28:25Speaker 06

  It's concerning.

• 1:28:26Speaker 02

  That's kind of fucked up what Max is saying though. Like that to me seems.

• 1:28:29Speaker 06

  I didn't say anything. I said nothing.

• 1:28:32Speaker 02

  But that to me seems like Max like lied to you when, when he traded AJ Brown to the, or to the, to the Patriots.

• 1:28:39Speaker 06

  Yeah, it's bad, bad faith, bad business, but.

• 1:28:41Speaker 00

  Did you lie?

• 1:28:42Speaker 06

  It is what it is. We're stuck with.

• 1:28:43Speaker 00

  Max?

• 1:28:44Speaker 06

  We're stuck with damaged. I said AJ Brown was a good player this whole off season.

• 1:28:47Speaker 00

  You lied?

• 1:28:48Speaker 06

  No.

• 1:28:48Speaker 02

  Sounds like.

• 1:28:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, you lied.

• 1:28:49Speaker 06

  I thought he was.

• 1:28:50Speaker 00

  You lied to me, to Hank.

• 1:28:51Speaker 06

  I thought he was a good player.

• 1:28:53Speaker 02

  It was an open box. It was a scratch and dent and you didn't tell him about that.

• 1:28:55Speaker 06

  I thought he was a good player.

• 1:28:57Speaker 00

  That's really fucked up.

• 1:28:58Speaker 02

  Do you get a receipt if you trade for a guy? Like, can you, can you take him back?

• 1:29:01Speaker 00

  Do you think it's the Patriots' fault for not like walking around AJ?

• 1:29:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:29:05Speaker 00

  Looking at everything?

• 1:29:06Speaker 02

  Like you take a picture like when you're renting a car? Yeah.

• 1:29:10Speaker 06

  Yeah, Max Crosby should be able to do that.

• 1:29:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, you should have.

• 1:29:14Speaker 06

  I don't know. Fasoli kept showing me all the training camp catches that he was having and he looked pretty good then. He did look great. I mean, he looked sick in the huddle. Drake May is right about that.

• 1:29:25Speaker 00

  Uh, how, what's your confidence level in this game?

• 1:29:27Speaker 06

  It is.

• 1:29:30Speaker 06

  High ish.

• 1:29:33Speaker 00

  Is Michael Parsons playing?

• 1:29:35Speaker 02

  I don't know. He's practicing.

• 1:29:37Speaker 00

  He might be.

• 1:29:38Speaker 06

  The Packers are like Dr. Jekyll, Mr. Hyde. Like they, they.

• 1:29:41Speaker 00

  Well, I think the Packers are.

• 1:29:42Speaker 06

  They look good. They look terrible. They look good. They look terrible.

• 1:29:45Speaker 00

  I think it comes out of this. Packers, things you can say about the Packers, their offensive line is still suspect. They can't run the football. Jonathan Gannon has done an incredible job with his defense because even without Michael Parsons, they've been awesome. And if Jordan Love hits his deep shots, they're very scary.

• 1:30:01Speaker 02

  It's.

• 1:30:01Speaker 00

  Like, that's kind of the, the, the, like, they have a ceiling of a very scary team. If the deep shots are not happening, they look very limited.

• 1:30:10Speaker 02

  So Jordan Love, still, even though he's probably had, I'm going to just guess 400 yards receiving dropped on him. Like just perfectly throwing balls that have just gone through his, his receivers hands. I think he's still the leading passer in the NFL in terms of yardage. So he's, the, the Packers are, they're a very good team. They could be scary good if they just start to make the bare minimum plays.

• 1:30:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:34Speaker 06

  We got Tom Brady on the, on the call. I would love, I would love for Drake Bay to just put up a, a career, career high performance. Hear him, hear him glaze him a little bit. Gronk, uh, getting inducted to the Patriot Hall of Fame before. Not sure what that, how that affects, factors in the game. It doesn't, but it'll be exciting. It'll be fun to watch. Good, good trip down memory lane.

• 1:30:52Speaker 02

  What's the vibe around town with Tom Brady going back to Fox?

• 1:30:54Speaker 06

  I don't think it's great.

• 1:30:56Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:30:56Speaker 02

  Oh, why?

• 1:30:57Speaker 06

  I don't know. I, I think, I think the no dog in the fight comment has, has rubbed people the wrong way and rightfully so. Vrabel, and I think Vrabel was, it was tongue in cheek and just kind of dry humor.

• 1:31:06Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:31:06Speaker 06

  But they were like, oh, you know, you excited to talk, reconnect with your old teammate before the game? And he was like, yeah, contractually, I will have to talk to him. It'll probably be on Zoom.

• 1:31:16Speaker 00

  I'm required contractually to catch up with him at some point. I'm sure it'll be Zoom. I'm sure they won't show up here. I'm sure it'll be Zoom. So yep, that's contractually. I'll be talking to him and I'm sure I'll see him at Gronk's induction on Saturday. He's definitely joking. He is busting balls.

• 1:31:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:31:30Speaker 00

  Anyone who can't see that is an idiot.

• 1:31:33Speaker 06

  But yeah, I think, I mean, again, like the, the, the dog in the fight thing was, was, I think people didn't love that. And I would, you know,

• 1:31:43Speaker 06

  it, this is a good test where if Drake May is like going off and Brady is not like overly complimentary, like it could, it could, you know, give some more details into the, what's going on.

• 1:31:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like, are you gonna, you're gonna have rabbit ears on for that though, probably, right?

• 1:31:58Speaker 06

  For sure.

• 1:31:58Speaker 02

  Like you, you expect him to go over the top.

• 1:32:01Speaker 06

  I hope, I would hope so.

• 1:32:02Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:04Speaker 06

  But I don't, I don't, honestly, I don't, I don't know that he will.

• 1:32:08Speaker 00

  Michael Parsons is back, sleeve on his knee. He's practicing.

• 1:32:13Speaker 02

  Is it kind of crazy that, that Gronk's not in the Ring of Honor yet?

• 1:32:16Speaker 06

  He is now.

• 1:32:18Speaker 02

  For this weekend?

• 1:32:19Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:32:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, they usually wait a few years.

• 1:32:21Speaker 02

  I don't know. I would have just expected.

• 1:32:23Speaker 06

  They've just retired.

• 1:32:24Speaker 02

  It was already taken care of.

• 1:32:26Speaker 06

  They just retired.

• 1:32:29Speaker 00

  See, he's trying to start some beef.

• 1:32:31Speaker 02

  No, I just think it's weird. I just thought he would have been, already been in there. That's.

• 1:32:35Speaker 06

  When's the last time you even had a player good enough for your Ring of Honor?

• 1:32:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, like never.

• 1:32:39Speaker 06

  Yeah. So you wouldn't really know how the process works.

• 1:32:41Speaker 02

  That's a fair point. That's a completely valid point. I just think that.

• 1:32:45Speaker 00

  I would assume they do one a year. Vrabel was last year. Remember the whole Titans thing?

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:32:51Speaker 00

  Or two years ago. Brady was last year, I think.

• 1:32:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:32:55Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:32:55Speaker 02

  So they do one a year?

• 1:32:56Speaker 00

  I would assume.

• 1:32:57Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:32:58Speaker 00

  Maybe they do one induction a year. I have no idea.

• 1:32:59Speaker 02

  I didn't know that because I, I figured, because he and Brady got out of the league around the same time. I would have thought it was like that same season. But if they do one a year, that actually makes perfect sense.

• 1:33:07Speaker 00

  Trouble in paradise?

• 1:33:07Speaker 02

  No, it makes perfect sense that you do Brady first and then you do Gronk second.

• 1:33:11Speaker 00

  Uh, okay.

• 1:33:14Speaker 00

  Raiders, Niners. Niners, uh, minus 10, over, under is 52 and a half. I feel like the Niners are gonna score as much as they want in this game. Raiders defense has been so bad, so, so bad. And the Niners offense, bad game against Falcons, have a bye week, come back, light the world on fire. We also now have the Brandon Iuk. Where I was like, I, when I saw the Brandon Iuk, when we were talking about it on Wednesday, that he was going to show up, I was like, yeah, well, why wouldn't the Niners take a shot with him? Because he's, like, they don't have wide receivers. They all keep getting hurt. And then Kyle Shanahan said he's, has no expectation of him showing up or doing anything. And he's moved on with that mentally. So.

• 1:33:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:33:59Speaker 00

  He's just.

• 1:34:00Speaker 02

  And Kyle Shanahan's a guy that is like, never say never because anyone could die.

• 1:34:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. He did say there's no absolutes in life when asking if they, if they play for the 49, if he plays for the 49ers game. I mean, it is like, they don't have, when the Niners have wide receivers, they're, they're one of, if not the scariest team in the league.

• 1:34:16Speaker 02

  I'm guessing, just guessing that, that Brandon Iuk is not in NFL shape right now.

• 1:34:21Speaker 00

  You never know.

• 1:34:22Speaker 02

  That he hasn't been staying on top.

• 1:34:23Speaker 00

  Never say never, PFT.

• 1:34:24Speaker 02

  But it is good that he's hired Drew Rosen, Drew Rosenbaum, right?

• 1:34:27Speaker 06

  Some are saying.

• 1:34:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, some are saying.

• 1:34:29Speaker 00

  Never say never.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  Uh, so yeah, I guess he's doing the right thing in terms of like following the steps to get back into the league. I don't think it's going to be with the Niners for sure. Um, Mike Evans, is he going to be healthy?

• 1:34:39Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:34:40Speaker 02

  At all?

• 1:34:41Speaker 00

  But he might play. No, definitely not. But he might play.

• 1:34:44Speaker 02

  He's one of those guys that I'm going to be watching every play. Like I'm going to be nervous watching Mike Evans.

• 1:34:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, definitely, definitely.

• 1:34:53Speaker 02

  I'm going to be excited to watch the force Buckner.

• 1:34:55Speaker 00

  Yes, that will be a lot of fun. So yeah, this is, I mean, this is going to be a fun game because I think the Raiders are playing fun games, but I don't, I, I think the Niners are going to win this game and I would probably take them to cover. Do any, do you like this at all or no?

• 1:35:07Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 1:35:09Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:35:09Speaker 02

  Nah.

• 1:35:10Speaker 00

  All right. Last game, Sunday night football. You ready? Or no, sorry. We have Cardinals, uh, Seahawks as well. Cardinals plus eight and a half. Over, under is 39 and a half. Gardner Minshew versus Drew Lock, just as God intended. I love this.

• 1:35:25Speaker 00

  Do you want to, do you want to say something? Can I say something reckless?

• 1:35:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:35:30Speaker 00

  I mean, I think we've actually said it on the show.

• 1:35:32Speaker 02

  Yes, your take is correct.

• 1:35:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, true. Seahawks better with Drew Lock?

• 1:35:36Speaker 02

  Drew Lock takes chances.

• 1:35:38Speaker 00

  Seahawks better with Drew Lock?

• 1:35:39Speaker 02

  Drew Lock takes chances. Sam Darnold apparently was hurt on the first drop back of the Bears game.

• 1:35:44Speaker 00

  It was the second play of the game, first drop back, got his ribs cracked.

• 1:35:48Speaker 02

  That sucks.

• 1:35:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:49Speaker 02

  Tough guy.

• 1:35:51Speaker 00

  But Drew Lock better?

• 1:35:53Speaker 02

  I think Drew Lock is definitely better than, he's better than Sam Darnold. And Sam Darnold is not a hundred percent. When Sam Darnold is a hundred percent, he's better. But we've seen, very first game of the season, Sam got hurt. And then when he came back, I think he came back a little bit too early. And Drew Lock does, like, he will fire that fucking pigskin. He'll give you two balls that you can pick off a game.

• 1:36:14Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:36:15Speaker 02

  But he'll also give you two balls that are bigger than your two balls when he takes deep shots.

• 1:36:19Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm. Drew Lock better. It's gonna be fun. Gardner Minshew, Drew Lock is a fun game. I do think the Seahawks are going to get right in this game. Anything in this game, Hank? Nah.

• 1:36:31Speaker 06

  Nah.

• 1:36:31Speaker 00

  Nah. I mean, the, the, I, I think the Seahawks like this is where they're, they're gonna find a way. I think Mike McDonald even said it. We gotta find our us again. We gotta reclaim our us.

• 1:36:42Speaker 02

  I think they will. I think, I think they got embarrassed and this team is still good enough and talented enough. And the coaches are good enough where they get embarrassed, that's not a team that you want to play next week.

• 1:36:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. Gardner Minshew retold the story, by the way, because he's doing media about Mike Leach when he was going to go to Alabama. And then Mike Leach said, you want to hold a clipboard? Do you want to lead the league, uh, the country in passing?

• 1:37:02Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:37:02Speaker 00

  As a, as a big crossroads, fork in the road moment, which I always love when he tells that story because Mike Leach was the best.

• 1:37:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:37:09Speaker 00

  And then Mike Leach proved it.

• 1:37:10Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:37:10Speaker 00

  And, uh, yeah, that's, that's all I got in this game. I, I think the Seahawks are going to be, I think this is where they start to write the shit. Also Drew Lock has played the Cardinals.

• 1:37:20Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:37:20Speaker 00

  Already this year and they beat the shit out of him.

• 1:37:22Speaker 02

  Yep. I'm, I'm bummed out that Jeremiah Love is going on IR. I want to see more from him.

• 1:37:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, I feel like though, in a stupid spin zone silver lining way, like is that, is it not better? So he doesn't get like miles on?

• 1:37:36Speaker 02

  Yeah. For, yeah, for running back. Yes. I'm just saying I'm bummed out.

• 1:37:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:37:40Speaker 02

  I, I wanted to see more of him this year.

• 1:37:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Last game. Zach, you ready? Bucks, Bears?

• 1:37:46Speaker 06

  I'm ready.

• 1:37:46Speaker 00

  Bears minus six and a half right now, over, under 47 and a half. I'll say this, I think the Bears are better than the Bucks.

• 1:37:54Speaker 06

  Breaking moves, breaking moves.

• 1:37:55Speaker 00

  Breaking moves.

• 1:37:59Speaker 02

  This is emergency.

• 1:38:00Speaker 00

  This is bad by the.

• 1:38:01Speaker 02

  Oh, God. Oh, God, no.

• 1:38:04Speaker 00

  What happened to the cow? Bad by the.

• 1:38:05Speaker 06

  What's the break?

• 1:38:06Speaker 00

  We need the cow. No, no. What is the breaking moves, Booth?

• 1:38:09Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:38:10Speaker 00

  Liv Golf is sharing. This is tough by the booth. You guys just don't listen to anything. No, you talked about the funding. This was now official. No, we literally said it was dead in this episode. But you said the funding. No, no, no. What are you talking about? I said live 2.0 dead. And Hank was like, yeah, I said it was dead two months. This was an hour ago. Dude, we said, we talked about this. This broke after we talked about.

• 1:38:34Speaker 06

  No, it didn't.

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  We talked about, you talked about it right away. Yesterday, we. We've been recording for an hour 30. I have, I have it right here. This broke an hour ago. We talked about Liv being done. It broke yesterday. Yesterday was a funding. Now it's officially dead.

• 1:38:49Speaker 02

  Well, what's the difference?

• 1:38:51Speaker 00

  What, what are we talking about? It's stupid reports. But it's dead. But now it's dead. No, but it was already dead.

• 1:38:57Speaker 06

  Just, just for the record here, Max, Mr. Like, oh, don't talk about you, you, you stopped us talking about football to do breaking moves. So we could talk about Liv again after we had already talked about it earlier in the show, but you're the anti Liv guy, right?

• 1:39:14Speaker 00

  I mean, listen, I will, I will quote tweet this one and say sad day, bad day to Hank again, which I've done like 75 times every time Liv has a, a hiccup, because this might be just a hiccup. But yeah, you guys were just not listening.

• 1:39:29Speaker 02

  So this is, this is from 56 minutes ago. So unless, unless foreplay did journalism and, and somehow put this news out themselves in that like 10 minute span from.

• 1:39:40Speaker 06

  Well, The Athletic did it an hour ago.

• 1:39:42Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:39:43Speaker 00

  So we talked.

• 1:39:44Speaker 06

  Probably a four minute.

• 1:39:45Speaker 00

  There was a report yesterday. Yes, and now it's officially dead. Dude. You're not, you, you're not getting it. It was officially dead yesterday. The, the funding was balled.

• 1:39:55Speaker 02

  You're just wanting, listen, I get it. You want multiple funerals for Liv so you can dance on Hank's, Hank's grave.

• 1:40:01Speaker 00

  No, now it's official. Dude, it was official yesterday.

• 1:40:05Speaker 04

  I mean, 59 minutes ago, the New York Times said, breaking news.

• 1:40:09Speaker 02

  Could we maybe purchase Liv?

• 1:40:11Speaker 04

  Fifty nine minutes ago.

• 1:40:11Speaker 00

  From yesterday, from the New York Times, we've confirmed the Athletic that Liv Golf will be pivoting to a wind down per multiple sources briefed on the matter. B C Partners feel as though it has run out of time to make Liv 2.0 viable.

• 1:40:21Speaker 04

  So you just said wind down.

• 1:40:22Speaker 00

  Liv 2.0 viable.

• 1:40:25Speaker 04

  Yeah, they were winding down.

• 1:40:25Speaker 04

  You just said wind down, this just said shut down.

• 1:40:29Speaker 02

  All right, I'd like to purchase Liv Golf.

• 1:40:31Speaker 04

  So.

• 1:40:31Speaker 02

  I'm interested in the intellectual property. Have your people.

• 1:40:34Speaker 04

  So actually, Booth is back.

• 1:40:35Speaker 00

  Were you guys?

• 1:40:36Speaker 04

  Booth is back.

• 1:40:38Speaker 00

  Did you guys know we talked about this earlier in the show?

• 1:40:40Speaker 04

  Yes, yes. That you talked about the report.

• 1:40:42Speaker 00

  Max not answering. Max not answering.

• 1:40:45Speaker 04

  Liv normally goes in, in one year, out the other.

• 1:40:48Speaker 00

  Max is the one who interrupted it. You're.

• 1:40:50Speaker 04

  Well, yeah, I mean.

• 1:40:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was shut down.

• 1:40:54Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:40:56Speaker 04

  Did you, did you, you, the tweet you just said, said wind down. This tweet just said shut down.

• 1:41:02Speaker 00

  Wind down is the same as shut down.

• 1:41:03Speaker 04

  That is not even close to the same thing.

• 1:41:06Speaker 03

  This is, this is sad.

• 1:41:07Speaker 00

  This is sad. Hank, I agree with you. This is sad. They have a Liv fetish. They're bringing up every chance they get. It's crazy.

• 1:41:14Speaker 04

  This just says shut down.

• 1:41:15Speaker 00

  I've already cried.

• 1:41:16Speaker 04

  Why would New York Times say breaking news?

• 1:41:19Speaker 00

  We literally, we, we, we put, we dug the grave. We put Liv in, in there. We put the dirt on top and then you guys came by and you're like, hey, did you guys hear this guy died? Yeah, dude, we, we already fucked.

• 1:41:31Speaker 04

  No, it was on life support and today, dead.

• 1:41:34Speaker 02

  Yeah, plug, pulled. They're probably just doing this new article because they want you to talk about it on part of my take.

• 1:41:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, and they want me to quote you and say sad day, bad day, Hank.

• 1:41:43Speaker 02

  You fell right into their trap.

• 1:41:44Speaker 00

  I did too.

• 1:41:45Speaker 04

  Every single one of these, front office sports 53 minutes ago, New York Times 59 minutes ago, The Athletic one hour ago.

• 1:41:53Speaker 02

  Lowkey obsessed with Liv.

• 1:41:54Speaker 04

  Every single one of these.

• 1:41:54Speaker 00

  Lowkey obsessed with Liv.

• 1:41:56Speaker 03

  Wind down is like, we might pay a couple of guys back. Shut down is nobody's getting paid.

• 1:41:59Speaker 04

  Yeah, yes. Everything yesterday is wind down. This is shut down.

• 1:42:03Speaker 00

  Obsessed with Liv. All right.

• 1:42:05Speaker 02

  Booth won. That room, zero.

• 1:42:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, no. Win for the booth. You guys idiots.

• 1:42:12Speaker 02

  I'd like to purchase it. Somebody get in touch with me about the price.

• 1:42:15Speaker 00

  Zach, Sunday Night Football.

• 1:42:16Speaker 04

  Sunday Night Football, Bears, Bucks.

• 1:42:18Speaker 00

  I think the Bears are better than the Bucks.

• 1:42:20Speaker 03

  Also, in this fucking article, it says wind down, you moron.

• 1:42:24Speaker 04

  That was yesterday.

• 1:42:25Speaker 03

  No, it wasn't. You didn't read the article.

• 1:42:28Speaker 02

  You didn't read the article.

• 1:42:28Speaker 04

  The article just came out. I also don't pay for The Athletic.

• 1:42:30Speaker 02

  This one says, shut down or wind down?

• 1:42:33Speaker 04

  This shut down.

• 1:42:35Speaker 03

  Liv lawyers confirm the company will be winding down at The Athletic.

• 1:42:39Speaker 04

  Liv Golf, which lost its Saudi funding, has shut down after five years of operation.

• 1:42:42Speaker 03

  Dude, you didn't read the fucking article.

• 1:42:44Speaker 00

  Why the fuck? Read the article.

• 1:42:47Speaker 04

  I don't pay for New York Times.

• 1:42:53Speaker 02

  Wow. That's, that's, that's something. It's really sad. Um, mayor's bet on this Tampa Bay Chicago game?

• 1:43:03Speaker 00

  Nah. No? I mean, do you want something? Do you have something you want to bet?

• 1:43:07Speaker 04

  Uh, I don't think so.

• 1:43:09Speaker 00

  I think that, so what I was gonna say was the Bears are, are better. I don't know what to expect from Baker throwing the ball. I respect the hell out of Bucks. I said two weeks ago, I was like, I'm, I'm buying Bucks stock. I think they, they can win the NFC South. The thing that scares me about this, this is the worst possible spot for the Bears in terms of monumental win on the road against Seahawks, short week, bye coming up. Bucks team that has looked not great, you know, record wise. This is the letdown spot of let, third, third prime time game in a row. How do you get up, keep getting up? Is the letdown spot of letdown spots. I'm a little nervous.

• 1:43:47Speaker 03

  I don't think the record fully reflects where the team's at right now. The team's been playing well. We're running the ball great.

• 1:43:51Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 1:43:52Speaker 03

  Your point, you're correct. We haven't really seen Baker throw the ball since the injury, but I do kind of like us getting, he pretty much had a whole nother week last week for the thumb to heal.

• 1:44:00Speaker 00

  True.

• 1:44:01Speaker 03

  Uh, and Caleb has been playing great since all the memes, so that worries me, but we'll see. I think, I'm excited for the game. I think if we can get a win here, then we're moving, uh, we're jumping categories.

• 1:44:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. I'm, I'm nervous about this game. I'm not overlooking the Bucks whatsoever. Cause I've, again, I've said for the last two weeks, I think they have the best defense in the NFC South. They have an unbelievable offensive line and defense. Those type of teams will always stay in a game.

• 1:44:29Speaker 02

  Are you scared of Stephen Che?

• 1:44:32Speaker 00

  No, because here's the thing. I have, it's a weird, I'm in a weird spot. I've actually been aligned with Stephen Che where Stephen Che was kind of like, this season is over and I was the one who started talking, being like, I don't think so, dude. Like, we, we, we're kind of lockstep and the Bucks are a frisky team that could still get to the playoffs. So the, the tension isn't there as much because I'm, it's not like we're disagreeing. I, we both think the Bucks are better than what their record is.

• 1:45:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I was kind of looking forward to a little bit of hate week, but I don't really have much hate in my heart towards you guys.

• 1:45:06Speaker 00

  Right, and he's been sick this week too.

• 1:45:08Speaker 03

  I will say there, there's definitely like more downside for you guys and a lot of upside for us here, like.

• 1:45:13Speaker 00

  Oh, for sure. And I also, I, I'm just going like, uh, remove myself from the situation. This is a, a very apparent

• 1:45:24Speaker 00

  buy, you know, buy low, sell high, sell high, buy low, where the, the Bears are as high as they can be. The, the amount of, you know, talking heads and everything saying like, oh, this is a Super Bowl team. It's, it's, it's the highest you can see the Bears stock right now. That always scares the fuck out of me. And maybe we come out and just dominate and then I'd be like, well, I was, I was crazy to even think of a letdown spot because I do think Ben Johnson is kind of like a coach that can avoid letdown spots, but I think the Bears are gonna win. I think the Bears are really fucking good. I'm nervous about this game. I don't think it's gonna be easy. That's my final take.

• 1:45:59Speaker 03

  What do you think? You, uh, score projection?

• 1:46:03Speaker 00

  Twenty... Six, 23.

• 1:46:09Speaker 03

  I was gonna go 24, 12.

• 1:46:12Speaker 00

  Okay, Bucks?

• 1:46:12Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:46:13Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:46:14Speaker 02

  12.

• 1:46:15Speaker 00

  I mean, the Bucks do have the ability to just drag people into shit games. They've played some shit games.

• 1:46:21Speaker 02

  I, I don't see Todd Bowles out coaching Ben Johnson.

• 1:46:25Speaker 00

  I don't either. I'm just, I'm worried about the spot. I like humans are humans. Put that on a quote card. Humans are humans.

• 1:46:32Speaker 02

  They are, that's bad.

• 1:46:34Speaker 00

  Okay, uh, should we do our picks? Oh, we have Jerry's video. Do you have Jerry's fantasy video? He's giving up. Is he giving it up?

• 1:46:42Speaker 02

  He's pretty much, he's phoned it in. I'll put it this way. Jerry has, uh, picked up Joe Milton off the waiver wire.

• 1:46:48Speaker 00

  Oh my god.

• 1:46:49Speaker 02

  So he's in, as, if you, if you think the Eagles are dead, that's exactly how dead our fantasy team is.

• 1:46:54Speaker 00

  Ew.

• 1:46:54Speaker 04

  He wants to start him too.

• 1:46:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46:57Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:46:58Speaker 02

  He has given up, yes.

• 1:47:00Speaker 00

  So this has just been a lost year?

• 1:47:02Speaker 02

  Very lost year. I talked to him the other day. Jerry called me the other morning and, uh, he just wanted to talk to me about the plane crash in Palm Beach.

• 1:47:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:09Speaker 02

  So he was just like, not for air, not for air. What's happening? What's happening?

• 1:47:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:47:12Speaker 02

  And then he told me about all the shit our fantasy team's gone through. Apparently, this is season from hell for Jerry.

• 1:47:18Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:47:19Speaker 02

  Where everybody that he drafted has gotten hurt. Like he had Lamar.

• 1:47:23Speaker 00

  So maybe Jerry got a little too hot, too, too, uh, big for his britches. He's feeling himself a little.

• 1:47:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe.

• 1:47:29Speaker 00

  Okay, here we go. Oh, I like this. All righty.

• 1:47:34Speaker 07

  Welcome to Hank Take Watch. That's where we just talk about what Hank did last week. Start the music memes. Sorry, I said you didn't start the music last week memes. You did indeed. Start the music. Ha, ha, ha. Hey Hank, back to you. Did you see the rep at the, at the end of that Chiefs game with that false start call? He blew his whistle just like you blew it with Tiffany Gomez. You blew it. You could have had a family, but you blew it. The Chiefs are only two feet away from the goal line. Speaking of two feet, Tiffany, show us your tootsies. We were thinking about a nickname for you, Hank. What about Shank? Shank Lockwood after watching all those golf videos that we're still running away from. Hank, we also need to talk about Bill Belichick and Jordan. We realize it's still fresh and a little raw, but sometimes young love just doesn't last. Those two needs, those, those two kids just need to get out there. They need to find themselves. They need to figure out what's next. Just because they couldn't make it work now, doesn't mean that it's not gonna happen.

• 1:48:19Speaker 07

  Gen Z love is complicated. Believe me, I have two daughters. I know how that goes. Ha, ha, ha. Uh, Max, you gotta stop calling PFT little and PFT, if it's bothering you, come over to Tubi. It's a growth engine. Ha, ha, ha. Hey Hank, back to you. Why don't you go read a self-help book with A.J. Brown? He needs it right now. I get it one.

• 1:48:37Speaker 04

  He didn't quite, he didn't quite do it. I cut him off at one minute.

• 1:48:39Speaker 00

  Should we give him the last three seconds?

• 1:48:41Speaker 04

  The last three seconds?

• 1:48:42Speaker 02

  No, no, because now, yeah, you can't have last three seconds. We'll never be able to stand up for ourselves again.

• 1:48:47Speaker 00

  Give it, give a second.

• 1:48:48Speaker 03

  That Tubi line is actually good.

• 1:48:50Speaker 02

  That's a funny joke. I thought, I thought that was just packed with jokes.

• 1:48:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:53Speaker 04

  So no official no to the three seconds?

• 1:48:56Speaker 00

  No, no. Get, because Jerry will, next week it will be four seconds and five seconds.

• 1:49:01Speaker 04

  Yeah, yeah, you're right, you're right.

• 1:49:02Speaker 02

  Tough love.

• 1:49:02Speaker 00

  You gotta do it. I'm guessing it's probably just fuck you, big cat at the end anyway.

• 1:49:10Speaker 02

  We'll never know.

• 1:49:11Speaker 04

  We'll never know. We'll never know.

• 1:49:13Speaker 02

  Wait, Max, can, can you listen to it? And then you tell us what he said, but don't play the video for us.

• 1:49:19Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:49:20Speaker 00

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• 1:50:36Speaker 00

  What'd he say?

• 1:50:37Speaker 04

  He is F you, big cat, and then told you to call something.

• 1:50:40Speaker 00

  Okay, nice, cool. All right, uh, picks. Let's do our, uh, real quick, our parlay. We gotta hit it. We gotta hit something. Who's in?

• 1:50:51Speaker 02

  Uh, Stefan Diggs got a touchdown last week, so I'll go again.

• 1:50:53Speaker 00

  Okay. I'll, I'll hop in. I don't, yeah, I'll hop in. Fuck it. I'll hop in. Go ahead.

• 1:51:02Speaker 02

  I'm going to go with.

• 1:51:06Speaker 02

  Luther Burden.

• 1:51:07Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:51:08Speaker 02

  Sunday night.

• 1:51:09Speaker 00

  Okay, okay.

• 1:51:11Speaker 04

  I like that.

• 1:51:12Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:51:12Speaker 02

  He's looking really good.

• 1:51:13Speaker 00

  Uh, throwing Jason.

• 1:51:17Speaker 04

  Okay. Hank, do you want to go?

• 1:51:21Speaker 06

  Remandre Stevenson.

• 1:51:25Speaker 00

  Okay, there we go.

• 1:51:28Speaker 02

  Easy.

• 1:51:31Speaker 00

  All right, picks time. Who's up first?

• 1:51:34Speaker 02

  I believe that's Zach.

• 1:51:36Speaker 03

  I'm going to take the Lions minus seven.

• 1:51:38Speaker 00

  Zach, by the way, uh.

• 1:51:40Speaker 06

  It's shocking. It's generational.

• 1:51:43Speaker 00

  Zach hasn't won a bet.

• 1:51:44Speaker 06

  It's generational.

• 1:51:45Speaker 00

  Four weeks. It's, it's pretty, it's actually insane.

• 1:51:48Speaker 04

  Three and thirteen on the year.

• 1:51:51Speaker 03

  I'm going to slump. The guys above me in that same graphic, I think are a couple of guys are at seven wins. Uh, so one week could flip things very close, very tight.

• 1:51:59Speaker 04

  That's more than double the amount of wins.

• 1:52:01Speaker 03

  We have so much football left and you're right. Yeah, guys get cold. Uh, shout out to everyone who sent me screenshots successfully fading me last week. I love that for you guys. But we're here on a new week and I'm going to take the Lions minus seven.

• 1:52:13Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:52:13Speaker 02

  Last week's over that he picked, well, he had the under and it somehow went over like magically. It was the Cardinals Cowboys.

• 1:52:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, overtime.

• 1:52:22Speaker 03

  Unreal.

• 1:52:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Unreal. Okay.

• 1:52:25Speaker 02

  I'm going to go with, uh, the Giants Eagles over.

• 1:52:28Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:52:29Speaker 04

  Hell yeah.

• 1:52:30Speaker 00

  Bazooka Joe.

• 1:52:31Speaker 02

  Is it thirty-eight and a half?

• 1:52:32Speaker 00

  Bazooka Joe.

• 1:52:34Speaker 02

  I love that. Let's go.

• 1:52:35Speaker 00

  All right, I, uh, I'm going to take the Raiders Niners over fifty-one and a half.

• 1:52:41Speaker 06

  I will take the Lions Dolphins under fifty and a half.

• 1:52:45Speaker 02

  I'll take the Cowboys Colts over fifty-one and a half. Super over.

• 1:52:51Speaker 04

  I'm going to take the Jets plus ten.

• 1:52:55Speaker 04

  I'm addicted to the Jets and I'm going to take the under in Rams Commanders under forty-eight and a half.

• 1:53:03Speaker 02

  Texans minus four and a half.

• 1:53:11Speaker 02

  Henry?

• 1:53:13Speaker 00

  Henry.

• 1:53:13Speaker 04

  Henry.

• 1:53:14Speaker 06

  Uh, I will take the Chargers.

• 1:53:18Speaker 04

  Chargers. Head to head, head to head.

• 1:53:21Speaker 00

  Has anyone taken the Dolphins plus seven?

• 1:53:23Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 1:53:24Speaker 02

  I'll do it. So fade Zach.

• 1:53:27Speaker 02

  I'm going to go with the Washington Commanders.

• 1:53:32Speaker 02

  Plus four and a half.

• 1:53:34Speaker 03

  I'm going to take the over in the Texas Chargers game.

• 1:53:37Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:53:39Speaker 04

  Oh, boy. That's a big game.

• 1:53:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:41Speaker 04

  Fade Zach. It's a big game.

• 1:53:43Speaker 02

  What's the over under that one?

• 1:53:44Speaker 04

  Forty and a half.

• 1:53:45Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 1:53:46Speaker 04

  It's like.

• 1:53:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:48Speaker 04

  I like that. I like that.

• 1:53:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:53:50Speaker 00

  Come on Zach.

• 1:53:51Speaker 04

  I might get in your hole.

• 1:53:52Speaker 00

  Come on Zach.

• 1:53:53Speaker 04

  I might get in your hole with that one.

• 1:53:55Speaker 00

  Come on Zach, fight Zach.

• 1:53:58Speaker 03

  There's so many football weeks left. We're good, boys.

• 1:54:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right, let's get to, uh, Brian Baldinger. Talk a little football with him and then we'll finish with Fire Fest.

• 1:54:06Speaker 02

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• 1:54:41Speaker 02

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• 1:54:56Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on one of our very, very special guesses, guests, one of our favorite guys to talk ball with. It is Brian Baldinger. Baldi, he's, you can see him on NFL Network, Fox Sports, Compass Media. He's everywhere. He's watching the tape. Baldi, great to talk to you. We are in week nine of the NFL. I'm actually like a little sad that we're week nine, that we're halfway through, but, uh, let's just start from the top. Let's just start, let's just go week nine only. Give us your favorite matchup in week nine, the one that you've, you're, you're the most juice to watch.

• 1:55:31Speaker 07

  Um, I would have to say there's, there's a couple, but obviously I, I think the Bucks and Chicago are, is a fascinating matchup. And we just saw the Bucks in a monsoon against Atlanta run for three hundred and twenty-four yards. Their offensive line, Tristan Wirfs, you know, Bredeusen, you know, Graham Barton, all the way through, Cody Mock, like they've been together for three years and they got good tight ends. And now you get, you get Bucky Irving, you get Kenneth Gainwell going up against that Bears defense that looked like the monsoons of the midway on Sunday, right? You know, like you, you watch them against obviously Seattle and what, uh, you know, Jeff, what, what Simmons did in that game and what he did for everybody else like that, that matchup.

• 1:56:13Speaker 07

  Because I'm just glued to the trenches and look, I, I love watching Caleb and that's great. Maybe, you know, maybe Baker will get going here, but honestly, this is like just trench warfare here.

• 1:56:23Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I agree that the Bucks offensive line is phenomenal and the Bucks defensive line is like great as well. Vita V going up against the, the Chicago run game. Can I ask you, as a Bears fan, I watched Monday night football, Jeffrey Simmons, I was in love. I knew he was awesome, but then to see him in the orange sleeves and doing that for the Bears, especially a defensive line that has not been great the last couple of years. Um, when you watch the tape, are you, are you, is he a type of guy that you're just like, holy shit, everyone else gets better around him because of what he's able to do?

• 1:56:56Speaker 07

  Oh, definitely. I mean, he's the best defensive lineman in football. I mean, you can say Miles Garrett, you know, Miles is great, but he hasn't played, but you know, he's the best, he's been the best interior defensive lineman in the last couple of years. He's unblockable one-on-one, but Graves Abel's a good player. Like he beat him inside, he beat him outside, but the thing that's so interesting about him is he played ninety percent of the snaps. He'd been there three days, but that's what he does. He's not one of these guys that rotates. He stays on the field. So you have to count for nearly every single play. Uh, and usually if a team is going to make a big play, a big run, it's usually when he's out for one of the few plays. Like he was only out like five or six plays in that game Monday night.

• 1:57:35Speaker 07

  But yeah, you saw, like, hit me, Montez Sweat were teammates at Mississippi State. I mean, they, they've known each other, you know, for over a decade now, but he does make everybody better.

• 1:57:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:45Speaker 07

  And you're going to see Austin Booker and Grady Jarrett and Lynch and the whole group like really start to pop, I think, right now.

• 1:57:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Uh, Baldi, I got, I got a dumb question to start out with. Have you ever shaved your head at any given point?

• 1:57:58Speaker 07

  Never.

• 1:57:59Speaker 02

  That's crazy. Like for a guy that's baldy.

• 1:58:01Speaker 07

  That's not true. I actually, I went to the Naval Academy. I, I lasted four days and they shaved my head when I went to the Naval Academy.

• 1:58:09Speaker 02

  Got it.

• 1:58:09Speaker 07

  And I thought, okay, I had a bad fitting uniform and my head got shaved. I was ready to get out of it.

• 1:58:14Speaker 00

  Thank you for your service, by the way.

• 1:58:15Speaker 02

  Yeah, I appreciate it. Thank you. Yeah. Yes. Yeah, we have Veterans Day coming up. Appreciate, appreciate it. Uh, why'd you only last four days?

• 1:58:22Speaker 07

  Uh, it, it just wasn't for me. It just wasn't. Now, you know, like I wanted to play my stereo. I wanted to hear Bob Seeger at major decibels. Like, you know, I was trying to figure out how to make the bed so that I could bounce a quarter off it. Like that's how it had to be. And I was like, I'm not, I'm already disciplined. You know, I'm, I'm good. I can get myself out of bed. It just wasn't my place.

• 1:58:42Speaker 02

  Not cut out for that life. Yeah. It's probably, probably best that you recognize that immediately rather than after, uh, after too long. I, I got a question for you about the Steelers because the Steelers have, have been a team that, um, I think at the start of the year, we kind of got suckered into thinking this might be the same old Steelers that we've seen in the past, I don't know, like five years, but they do seem like they've got a little bit more juice on offense now. Is there reason to be optimistic as a Steelers fan for this team maybe being able to put together a little run, maybe win some playoff games?

• 1:59:10Speaker 07

  Well, when they made the switch a month ago to go Brock Hoffman at right guard and the Honnich to go to right tackle, uh, they got better immediately. And now Jalen Warren is popping, you know, Rico Dowdell had a good game last week. Like they can run the football. Zach Fraser, I call him Matt Fraser because he was a wrestling champ in high school and he takes everybody to the mat. Like he's just, like, people don't think I know his name. I know he's Zach Fraser, but he's Matt Fraser. Like he's not happy unless the guy is down on the ground. That's when he's like actually bubbly, you know, and he's smiling. So they, they just got a good group up front of Fattano over there at left, left tackle is, is a beast.

• 1:59:46Speaker 07

  And so I think they could, you know, that Cleveland defensive front has been really good. And last week they just, you know, their undersides, the defense tackle, they ran, I thought it was like Franco Harris running, you know, behind, uh, you know, Steve Corson on some of these trap blocks that they were doing last week. But it was, it was, they take out Dak going and then the old heads on defense. Like I don't know if Cam Hayward's ever played better than he's playing right now. TJ is coming on, Herbig, like they've got a bunch of older guys there that look like they're having a lot of fun playing defense and they're, they're destroying these teams in the fourth quarter right now.

• 2:00:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, all right. Can I, can I ask you about the forty Niners and what they're doing defensively? Because I think going into this season, no one really expected them to be a, a good defense. They've been playing very well. They also have DeForest Buckner now they've added. What is that going to do for them? Uh, you know, Bosa, I think will eventually be back. Like, is that a defense that you, you see as being one of the, the top, you know, defensive teams towards the end of the year when we get there? Cause their offense is explosive when they have wide receivers.

• 2:00:47Speaker 07

  DeForest Buckner, he, he, he's like Cam Hayward. Like he's just not aging, you know, he still is a force at the three technique and he fits right in with their culture. Like I'll be out there Sunday for the game against the Raiders. Then you'll see Fred Warner, you'll see Christian McCaffrey, you'll see like the whole group of these guys, you know, Kittle, they're all doing their hour calisthenics, you know, before the kickoff and, and DeForest Buckner will be doing the same thing. He'll be working all his pass rush moves. Like when Nick comes back and you put him on the same side, like that's going to be, that's going to be tough to stop. But the development of Grayson Halton right now of Jaden Duggar, the rookie out of University of, uh, Louisiana, a fifth round pick, like their young players are giving them some pop. Like they lost Ray Greenlaw because of a one game suspension, whatever.

• 2:01:32Speaker 07

  That Jay Duggar stepped in and he's six, five, two forty and he can run. And that's like, you put him next to Fred Warner, like they're getting a lot of juice from the rookies out there. Grayson Halton can flat out play. So the kid out of Oklahoma. So I, I feel like you get DeForest back there, you get the development of some of these young guys, you get Bosa back. Like I think they're going to be ready for some January football.

• 2:01:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. They're, they're an interesting team because I, I, obviously Brock Purdy's been phenomenal and, uh, you know, going into it like last year, they were so injured on defense and it kind of, they ran out of gas there, but

• 2:02:07Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:02:07Speaker 00

  when like they've, they've been good and they just feel like a very complete team that maybe it's, I, I have a problem whenever a team goes on bye. I like forget they exist. I don't know if that happens to you, but like I just, I'm like, oh yeah, the Niners. Oh yeah. That, that's right. The Niners. Cause they were just on bye.

• 2:02:24Speaker 07

  Yeah, well, they just, you know, they lost the game in Atlanta before the bye. And so maybe you wanted to forget about them after that defeat, but you know, Atlanta played, they took the ball away and forced four turnovers and that was the reason why they lost. But, you know, but even still, like they're back home this weekend against a Raiders team that's can move the football. Like it's gonna be a fun game. But I, I feel like Trent Williams is just one of those guys, like no matter where the, the run is designed to go, it could go behind Dominic Poony at right guard. It ends up behind Trent Williams. No matter what, it ends up behind him. Like that's, that's, he's just, he's just still that dominant out there. But he's that, he's that bouncer that can just clear the whole bar out.

• 2:03:04Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:03:05Speaker 07

  And just stop everything from going on.

• 2:03:06Speaker 02

  Yep. I, I got a question for you about maybe a team that's not, not so good right now. Having a tough year in Los Angeles, the Chargers. Do you see, when you watch the Chargers play football right now, are you seeing a talent issue? Are you seeing a scheme issue? Are you seeing an effort issue in any combination of those three?

• 2:03:23Speaker 07

  Well, it, it starts with talent. Like they don't have a talented roster offensively. They don't have a tight end that can really beat you. The Rams have three of them. They don't really have a wide receiver that, Alad McConkey, I'll give it to him. He's a good route runner, but he's, he's, he's small and he does get hurt. So he's in and out, but they, they don't really have targets that you can count on. That's that. Now they can't run the ball at all, but you know, for two and a half, almost three games, they were playing four rookies out there. Like you wouldn't play four rookies in your offense line in preseason game. You just wouldn't do it. And so, but that's where they're at when they lost Joe Alton Slater and they lost, you know, um, you know, two centers for a while.

• 2:04:05Speaker 07

  So they, they, they can't run the football and they've had games where they've been in the game, Denver, they were beating them 17, 10. They tried to run a quarterback sneak with Justin Herbert on fourth and one. It was the worst quarterback sneak I've ever seen, you know? The guy got folded up like a cheap suit, you know, and they didn't gain two inches in the play. Like he shouldn't run a quarterback sneak, but it's a talent issue. Then you get the depletion of the offensive line and all the things that Mike McDaniel has shown that he's capable of doing with, when you have a good offensive line and the different things you can do in the run game, like he's sort of void of his creativity.

• 2:04:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's, I think it's a pretty good explanation for it. And then what about across town? What about the Rams? Have they, have the Rams reached the point where they have zero margin for error now?

• 2:04:53Speaker 07

  Yeah, yeah. Look, you know, you know, it's a tough division. You gotta look at the NFC North because they're gonna put some teams in the playoffs. You don't wanna be, you know, in a game of musical chairs with seven teams. You don't wanna be that eighth team. So they've won two in a row. They've done it without Devante Adams. When they go to their three tight ends, they run the ball better. They have better balance on offense. Both Corum and Kyron Williams were really good last week. Like honestly, they did that last week when, last year when Devante got hurt. You're gonna get Ferguson back. I think they're better when they run, play all their tight ends out there. Poop is still gonna get his targets, but I feel like Stafford gets protected. He doesn't turn the ball over as much and they control the game. You know, and then you're gonna get, you know, you're gonna get Miles and back and, you know,

• 2:05:35Speaker 07

  you, you got Trent McTuffy back last week. He made a big difference defensively. So I feel like they can make the charge. I think it's fueled by when they play all these tight ends. They're really good at it.

• 2:05:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:05:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, Baldy, the coaching in Dallas feels like it's an issue. I, the way they lost that game was insane and giving up two runs for 50 plus yards. What's the, what are you seeing and is there a fix or is it like, hey, let's just, let's just all admit that the Cowboys just don't have the right coaching, right scheme or talent on the field to be a competitive team in the NFC?

• 2:06:12Speaker 07

  Yeah, they, they were up 10 with three and a half minutes ago. So they get the ball back to Arizona. They, like you can say, like you could say McBride is as good, Trey McBride is as good as any tight end in this league, Brock Bowers, you can pick a guy, but they, they turn them completely loose on a seven cut to the end zone. It's the easiest throw for Gardner Minshew he's ever made. Like it's, it's literally a state fair egg toss to get the ball to him. It's that easy. Right? But like, why, and then you see what you always see in Dallas. You see three guys arguing with each other about what happened.

• 2:06:44Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 2:06:45Speaker 07

  Like, like that's Christian Parker. That's like, they're not coordinated. Tyler Algier has been in this league for six years. I've never seen him go 63 yards.

• 2:06:53Speaker 02

  Right.

• 2:06:54Speaker 07

  Ever. Like you, you can't let a guy go, like Caleb Downs gets knocked down twice, but where's the pursuit? Like, how did he get free? So they're giving up these tremendous plays, these big plays.

• 2:07:07Speaker 07

  And there's, outside of Quinnen Williams, you're not getting any pass rush. Like they still miss Micah Parsons. Like it was still the dumbest thing they've ever done as an organization. Not after the second year, they should have just signed him up for a lifetime contract.

• 2:07:20Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:07:21Speaker 07

  And not let him out of the building because you could go trade for all these guys, Rashawn Gary, draft Malachi, you know, Lawrence, you can do all this stuff. None of them are Micah Parsons.

• 2:07:30Speaker 00

  Right, right. And I also think their, their offense deserves a little blame. They didn't gain yards at the end of the game. Like they, they had two chances where they're in the, the Cardinals red zone. They played for field goals. They can, they were like, I, I feel like the Cowboys from a coaching standpoint, you have to be aggressive till the end because you know your defense can't win the game. So it's like score touchdowns.

• 2:07:51Speaker 07

  You, you, I think in Dallas right now, I mean, outside, unless you're playing Philadelphia, who's a mess, I, I feel like you gotta, you gotta start by thinking, I need 30 today.

• 2:08:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:08:01Speaker 07

  We need 30. We wanna start stacking some wins and win this division, which is winnable. We gotta score 30 every week and that's the mentality you gotta have.

• 2:08:10Speaker 02

  Yep. Uh, Baldy, I'm gonna go gun to your head on this question. Okay? So you have to, you have to answer it. Gun to your head. Which team gets left out in the NFC North or do they all make it?

• 2:08:20Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:08:22Speaker 07

  I don't think they all make it because I, I feel like, um, it's not gonna be just San Francisco in the West. I feel like Seattle still has a chance, um, despite some of the mistakes that they're making. But they're gonna be a good team. I would say the team that, the team that I would be most worried about is the team that actually leads the division.

• 2:08:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:08:39Speaker 07

  And that's Minnesota Vikings.

• 2:08:40Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:08:40Speaker 07

  Just because offensively, like they just, like unless, I, I don't, unless Kyler Murray just turns it around, like how is, how is it that they can't get the ball to Justin Jefferson?

• 2:08:50Speaker 02

  I, it's crazy.

• 2:08:52Speaker 07

  Yeah. Like that guy is so good. Um, and yet he, he's invisible out there. He's got pedestrian numbers. He's their best player on the entire, entire team. And you can't just ask Brian Flores to just go win these games for you. They're really good and Detroit figured it out. Like they, they started running the ball. They got some formations. They did some things to stop the blitzing and Jameer Gibbs and Shionne Baki, like they ran wild. And so I just don't, but I like Green Bay with Micah coming back and the way that they attack offensively. Uh, I love Chicago, obviously, and you know, you, you, Detroit's offense is, is dynamic and now you're getting healthy on defense.

• 2:09:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. So you don't even think that they're like a running back away? If they were to get Jonathan Taylor, that probably wouldn't solve everything.

• 2:09:38Speaker 07

  In Minnesota?

• 2:09:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:09:40Speaker 07

  Well, I, I think it would help. I mean, but, but Aaron Jones and, um, and what did Jordan Mason, like they're good players. They're still good. They, they can still run the ball pretty good. The offense line is fine. They just aren't getting anything out of the passing game. And if the idea that, um, they got two explosive plays last week. They got the big play down the field to Addison and they got one run by Kyler Murray. Outside of that, like they, they, they couldn't get the ball, uh, down the field at all.

• 2:10:06Speaker 02

  Yeah. Where, where would you wanna see Jonathan Taylor end up? Just as a fan of football, where would it be the most fun?

• 2:10:12Speaker 07

  I guess, I don't, I mean, I guess Denver is a team, like they're in first place right now. The defense is championship level. They struggled to run the football, but I like Jonah Coleman. Now that he's back, like, you know, he popped in the screen game. I like Sean Payton back all in plays. I feel like Jonathan Taylor on that team might be the difference. Because at, at some point in the playoffs, if you have a lead, you wanna be able to melt the clock. You wanna be able to control the ball. Like they don't have that ability to do that now. And if you're just asking Bo Nix to throw screens to RJ Harvey or Jonah Coleman for big plays, like I don't think that's gonna be enough to win a, a big championship game in the AFC.

• 2:10:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, in the, talk about the AFC, the Chiefs, I can't figure it out. Maybe you know better. Uh, I know you know better, but they start, what are they, six and two right now?

• 2:11:04Speaker 07

  Uh, five and five.

• 2:11:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, they were five and O, then they lost the last two. The teams they beat were not exactly murderers row. Ty Quan Thornton getting hurt feels like it's, it's, it's significantly damaged their passing game. Are they, I don't wanna call them frauds because it's still Patrick Mahomes, Andy Reid, but I feel like every time I'm watching them, it's like it, if Kenneth Walker's not running the ball for six yards a clip, their offense doesn't look like it can be explosive and

• 2:11:32Speaker 07

  That's the key.

• 2:11:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, they just don't, I, I don't, I think they're a little bit worse than their record is. Is that if, is that a crazy statement to say?

• 2:11:41Speaker 07

  No, no, but you know, like they were on the one yard line last week.

• 2:11:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, true.

• 2:11:45Speaker 07

  Win the game, you know, but Kenneth Walker shut down, like shut down by Seattle, shut down last week by Denver. He's run 35 times the last two weeks for 105 yards.

• 2:11:54Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 2:11:54Speaker 07

  The first five games, he was running for 135 yards a game and they were blowing people out, including Denver. So, you know, the Jets play them this week, like it'd be a good idea if you stop Kenneth Walker, you probably have a chance to maybe win the game.

• 2:12:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:12:07Speaker 07

  Uh, but they're, they're so dependent and now, you know, they got this weird issue at left guard. All right. You know, the, the left tackle thing is weird. Like they're, they're sort of half an offensive line of what they could be now. And Cleo Benson at left tackle has been good, but I don't know what's going on at left guard. Nobody says anything. Mahomes is saying things in the meeting room to certain people, whatever. Like it just seems like it's a little weird, you know, that you don't have your five offensive lineman out there right now.

• 2:12:34Speaker 02

  Yeah. No, you're right. What about, um, what about in the AFC with the Bills? Are the Bills, I think when we put together like a list of teams that we believe in that could win a Super Bowl, I think everybody's got the Bills on there right now. It's gonna be very interesting to see what happens with them going up against the Vikings and that defense this weekend. I feel like Josh Allen is better equipped than most to deal with that blitz in terms of just being a big guy that can escape a little bit and use his legs. Um, are you a believer in this Bills team as they're currently constructed?

• 2:13:03Speaker 07

  I think so, and for this reason, like they're like, if you look at the defense, like they're not good, you know, the numbers aren't good, all that kind of stuff. But if you look at some of the components on defense, if you look at Deion Walker, number 96, if you're, if you're looking at Ed Oliver, you're looking at Gregory Rousseau, you're looking at TJ Sanders, like they've drafted some of these guys, you know, and they're, and the Deion Walker is just a handful for anybody right now at the nose. Like they're getting better on the defensive front. I don't believe in their secondary yet. Like it's just a mismatch and, and who's playing back there and who's healthy. But I like Jim Leonard as the play caller on defense. I feel like they've got another

• 2:13:44Speaker 07

  half a season for this defense to kind of blend, come together and become really good on the front, defensive front. And if they can do that and keep the score down, you know, below 24, I, I, I believe in their, in their offense. You got DJ Moore back last week. You got Kinkade back. They made differences. Josh Allen can, like, he's going to convert every, like, the Chiefs can't score from the one last week, but Josh Allen will score. If you need a yard, he's going to get you a yard 100% of the time, whether it's in middle of field, in their own zone, on the goal line, he's going to get you the yard. And so he's such a difference maker.

• 2:14:19Speaker 00

  By the way, that, that, uh, so, so that Chiefs Broncos game, what happened with Kenneth Walker on that third down run? It looked like it was almost, there was a whistle that he heard the way he was running upright and not hard at the, at, at the goal line. Did you watch that at all?

• 2:14:34Speaker 07

  Yeah, I, I saw J L Skinner make a hell of a play and he doesn't even play, but like he, he got him by the legs. I, I thought he got him down to the ground pretty good.

• 2:14:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:14:44Speaker 07

  Yeah. And, and the play before, on the first down play, um, from the four, uh, Patrick Surtan just made a great play to get him down to the one yard line. Great open field tackle. Like he was one on one with Walker and Patrick Surtan. Surtan won the battle.

• 2:14:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, Max, would you like to ask Baldi a question about Bazooka Joe? Max is very excited about Bazooka Joe, Joe Milton coming in for the Eagles.

• 2:15:09Speaker 02

  I would ask about Bazooka Joe. I feel like you haven't been able to see a lot of Bazooka Joe tape. Um, I honestly have a different question.

• 2:15:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:15:17Speaker 02

  You've given Jalen Carter some, some trouble these past couple of weeks. What's going on with him? Because I agree, it doesn't look good.

• 2:15:24Speaker 07

  I don't know. Like, did he just get paid? You know, and it's just like, he's taking the year off. Like he had a great game against, I think Jacksonville, uh, dominant like he's used to see, but I saw Samuel Cosme. Um, it used to be that you never, ever left him one on one with anybody in this league. I saw Washington last week put Samuel Cosme on him and block him. Um, I don't, I don't know if he's got a plan right now to rush the quarterback. Like, but he's the highest paid defensive tackle in football. I got on, like, look, I've given him more love than anybody in this whole business for the first three years because of what he did. He was a violent wrecker of everything. Like, and he was nasty as hell. And I loved all of that about him. Like that's,

• 2:16:06Speaker 07

  that's what the Chicago Bears had with, you know, Mongo during back of the day. Like he just had a nasty guy, Randy White, just nasty. And I don't see that right now. Like, I haven't seen him just dominate the front, the way he's capable of doing. So I don't, I don't know what's at stake right now.

• 2:16:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, and Bazooka Joe, what are you expecting?

• 2:16:26Speaker 07

  Well, you know, the lot, it's ironic that he's playing against the Giants this week.

• 2:16:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:16:30Speaker 07

  The, the last time he played was week 18 against the Giants, um, in Dallas last year. And, you know, he had some good plays. Like he's a big, strong kid that can run. Um, he's got a big arm. The Eagles don't really have anybody that can get down the field to catch a deep ball. They don't have any speed out there. So I don't know how much of the arm you're going to see, but they need somebody that can escape pressure. Um, Tanner McKee can't do it. They're breaking down in protection. Um, they've got some weaknesses up front right now. And so I think they're putting them in there honestly, just to be able to escape when, uh, you know, when the Giants, Abdul Carter comes or, you know, Arvel Reese comes up the middle at him, like somebody can get away from him. That might be part of it, but you know, it's like hit or miss if he's going to hit a moving target or not. That's sort of been the issue. We know he's got a big arm

• 2:17:15Speaker 07

  and he's, and but, you know, the guys told me when he was up with the Patriots, like he ran the scout team up there and they said that he gave that team fits up there, just going out there day to day, running the scout team. Now, he hasn't been there three weeks. I don't know how much he knows, doesn't know. It's, you know, it's, it's not going to be, probably it's not going to look real good for times on Sunday against the Giants.

• 2:17:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. If you look at the schedule coming up for, for the Eagles, there is a chance that we get Bazooka Joe on Thanksgiving. He could save Thanksgiving for America because we're, we're going to need somebody that's entertaining at least, uh, to be throwing the ball for the Eagles. Um, so the, the other side of that coin this weekend, the Giants, are you a believer in what New York has put together? Because they do feel like they're, they're finally, uh, getting into full form, final form on defense. That, that defensive line is swarming. And I mean, J J McCarthy has played out of his mind, uh, since he's, since he's been in New York. So curious to know how much you think is real, how much you think might be fool's gold for the Giants.

• 2:18:13Speaker 07

  Well, I mean, look, J J played one game in Houston two weeks ago and he was great. Didn't make a mistake. They won the game in overtime. You don't often see, you know, two guys in Scataboo and Motor Singletary go 70 something yards on two runs to win the game. Like that probably never happens, but they, they want it and he, and J J played good. The good, the best thing he does is he's got great touch on the deep ball. Like he, he had that when he was in Minnesota. He has that in the players level. Like everywhere he goes, that guy, Michigan, you know, even in Minnesota, when he struggled, the players like him. He, he knows how to just blend with the team and he's got good touch on the deep ball. So you got Malik neighbors, you've got Isaiah Likely, um, you've got guys that can get that even last week against Houston.

• 2:18:56Speaker 07

  Fedoni went down on a little, uh, you know, drag wheel route. He got free, uh, but he hit it perfectly in stride. So I feel like playing without Brian Burns is not easy, but Tipido is better than his numbers look. Abdul Carter has been pressuring. They've got a weakness and run defense, which is, shows up at times. Um, maybe they make a trade at the deadline to kind of shore that up a little bit, but the corners have played well, the safeties have played well, the defensive coordinator is talented. Um, so I'm a believer in the Giants right now.

• 2:19:29Speaker 00

  Uh, all right, Paul, a couple of last questions. Can you give us a name of someone who is popping right now for you that is not like a household name?

• 2:19:39Speaker 07

  Uh, well, I would say that if, if you look at, um,

• 2:19:46Speaker 07

  if, if you look at, uh, let's see, if you look at like, say, um, Maxie Honner in Pittsburgh.

• 2:19:54Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:19:55Speaker 07

  That guy is just exactly what Pittsburgh needs. He's a nasty right tackle that can move big bodies. And you, you want to talk about Aaron, you want to talk about, you know, the coach, whatever, like you should watch Max Honner play. Like they, you know, and the ironic thing is they wanted, they wanted Lemon from, that got taken by Philadelphia. That's the guy they wanted and Philadelphia jumped in front of him and took him. So then they, the fallback was Max Honner. And it turned out to be a much better pick than Mackay Lemon.

• 2:20:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:24Speaker 07

  And so I would say he's, he's played great football.

• 2:20:26Speaker 00

  That's a good answer because the Steelers are like one of those teams. It's, it's funny. Jalen Warren, how electric he's been this year. And it's like, he's been on the team for a long time. It's just now he's being, you know, featured.

• 2:20:39Speaker 07

  He's the MVP right now.

• 2:20:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. It just, you, you, you feel like the, the Steelers can finally get yardage. You feel like they can finally move the football where the last five years, you just never had the trust in them. And it sounds like that part of that is the offensive line just pushing guys around.

• 2:20:55Speaker 07

  Well, that's what they did at Cleveland last week and nobody had done that at Cleveland all year.

• 2:20:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:59Speaker 07

  And, and, and Mike, the way that they had pressured teams, like they, they were in every game because of their defense and the Steelers ran right through last week and made them look bad.

• 2:21:11Speaker 02

  I got one last thing for you, Baldi. I've, I've been thinking about the Bengals a lot and how at the start of the season, their defense looked pretty good. Maybe like they had fixed some things. They're, they've been struggling a little bit on that side of the ball. I, I have complete faith in what they're able to do on offense. I don't think that they're going to be stopped for four quarters. Um, is their defense more of what we saw earlier in the season or what we're looking at now where they have some glaring weaknesses that might not be able to be addressed?

• 2:21:36Speaker 07

  Like I think Dexter Lawrence has made a big difference. I think he really loves playing there. He's playing great football. Boye Mafe has got a sack in four straight games right now. Like that's, he's on a pretty good pace. They got young linebackers. It's still getting coordinated. Um, I would say that Cam Ward played the best game he's ever played, uh, last week, and that was part of what happened and why they had to go to overtime to win it. But I feel like they're going to be better than they have been. And I feel like, um, if they, when they get to the playoffs, they're not going to be a one and done because of their defense.

• 2:22:10Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, all right. Last question, Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase, Qs, Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take. Zach, take us away with Baldi.

• 2:22:24Speaker 02

  What's going on Baldi? I did have a quick question. Uh, who's the number one team right now that's hitting us with the most smoke and mirrors? Like, is there a team that maybe everyone's high on running the league? Do you think is going to quickly fall from grace here shortly?

• 2:22:36Speaker 07

  Uh, I would say Minnesota, just because they've just been living by the blitz. Um, and offensively, they have not been a good offense. And so they have a shiny record, um, first half of the season, you know, and undefeated till last week. I would say that's the team that might go backwards here in the second half. The quarterback play just is not good enough. When you're looking at what Jordan Love is doing, what Caleb is doing, um, you know, with what Jared Goff has been doing, uh, those guys have got their offenses on the move, week in, week out. Um, and I'm, I'm concerned about Minnesota from that standpoint. And maybe this defense, like it looks good. It looks really good and they can beat up on bad teams and they can stack

• 2:23:21Speaker 07

  up great numbers. But I don't know that you can just play that style of defense, uh, and win, you know, win playoff games.

• 2:23:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Well, Baldi, you're the best, man. Always great talking ball with you. Uh, safe travels. Yeah. Safe travels this week out to the West Coast and, uh, we'll talk to you again later on in the season.

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• 2:24:57Speaker 00

  Okay, Fire Fest of the Week. Henry, Liv?

• 2:25:03Speaker 06

  Yeah, did you guys see the news?

• 2:25:06Speaker 02

  No, what's up?

• 2:25:07Speaker 06

  Uh, Liv 2.0 is officially winding down.

• 2:25:10Speaker 02

  Oh, but they're not shutting down?

• 2:25:12Speaker 06

  Just winding down.

• 2:25:13Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:25:14Speaker 06

  Per the Athletic.

• 2:25:15Speaker 02

  All right, well, more to come later.

• 2:25:16Speaker 00

  I actually, like, it's not my main Fire Fest, but it is a Fire Fest because that means we are kind of done talking about it, and that's a bummer to me.

• 2:25:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, I'm gonna miss it.

• 2:25:25Speaker 06

  And the players, think about the players. That's what, that's my Fire Fest.

• 2:25:28Speaker 02

  No, I just care about talking about the league and how bad it's doing. That's what I'm gonna miss. And maybe, maybe Liv Golf was just the friends we made along the way.

• 2:25:34Speaker 06

  What's for me?

• 2:25:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:25:36Speaker 06

  Twin Toms is brothers for life.

• 2:25:38Speaker 00

  Is that your real Fire Fest?

• 2:25:39Speaker 06

  I feel like this week kind of flew by. There wasn't like, the only, the only Fire Fest is just daylight savings side blows. Like, it gets dark early, it's depressing.

• 2:25:48Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 2:25:49Speaker 06

  I've, we're, you know, it's just like, wake up, go to work, go home.

• 2:25:55Speaker 02

  At least it's light in the morning.

• 2:25:57Speaker 06

  Wake up, go to work, it's dark.

• 2:25:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, light in the morning, because I was looking at it, like, the, if we didn't do it, we wouldn't have any sunsets before 5:00 PM, which, awesome, but we also would have, I think it was 80 sunrises after 8:00 AM.

• 2:26:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's tough.

• 2:26:13Speaker 00

  That would be pretty crazy.

• 2:26:14Speaker 02

  That'd be real bad.

• 2:26:15Speaker 06

  Yeah, no, I understand why they do it. And it's like, who cares if it's, if it's gonna be cold anyway, like, what's the point? But...

• 2:26:22Speaker 02

  Get that vitamin D.

• 2:26:23Speaker 00

  Also, this is like, this is the part of the year where it's like, you know, Thanksgiving, Christmas, festive, it's January where it's like, that, this sucks.

• 2:26:30Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:26:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. This is, this is a festive time.

• 2:26:33Speaker 06

  Yeah, I feel like not, not, not much happened this week.

• 2:26:36Speaker 00

  Good, good week.

• 2:26:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, nice.

• 2:26:39Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:26:40Speaker 02

  Solid.

• 2:26:41Speaker 00

  I think the hungry dogs are gonna win this week.

• 2:26:42Speaker 02

  Did you put out any new videos?

• 2:26:43Speaker 00

  What are you?

• 2:26:44Speaker 06

  You don't, no you don't, because you would bet it if you thought it was gonna win this week.

• 2:26:47Speaker 00

  I'm gonna bet it this week.

• 2:26:48Speaker 06

  No, you're not.

• 2:26:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, I am.

• 2:26:50Speaker 06

  You're saying, you're saying that right now.

• 2:26:51Speaker 00

  I'll show you the slip.

• 2:26:52Speaker 02

  I swear to God, I'm gonna bet it.

• 2:26:53Speaker 06

  I'm gonna bet it.

• 2:26:54Speaker 02

  I'm probably gonna hold.

• 2:26:55Speaker 06

  I get an ankle every week. Bazooka Joe.

• 2:26:57Speaker 00

  If you had to guess what it was, means?

• 2:26:58Speaker 06

  Bazooka Jus.

• 2:26:59Speaker 04

  Oh, if I had to guess what it was, it would be Chargers, Browns, Eagles.

• 2:27:04Speaker 02

  Okay, okay. I'm gonna, I'll bet that then. And then hypothetically, it might be us.

• 2:27:08Speaker 00

  They were tracking everything you said, and they're picking up on clues.

• 2:27:12Speaker 06

  Look at our notes.

• 2:27:13Speaker 02

  You gave away what it was.

• 2:27:14Speaker 00

  Notes.

• 2:27:15Speaker 06

  Oh, I also put it in on DraftKings as we were doing the show.

• 2:27:18Speaker 00

  Oh, that was for nothing. Oh, it's good. Hey, listen, it's good podcast banter to have a little fire back in your life every now and then. Of all the dumb things we've argued about, it might be the dumbest.

• 2:27:31Speaker 06

  I, I, I'm no way.

• 2:27:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:27:34Speaker 06

  You should do, you should do a cat dog.

• 2:27:37Speaker 00

  I'll, I'm down to do a cat dog with you.

• 2:27:41Speaker 06

  Be a man and do a cat dog.

• 2:27:42Speaker 00

  You wanna do a cat dog?

• 2:27:43Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 2:27:44Speaker 04

  Big cats would be dolphins.

• 2:27:45Speaker 00

  But can I go against the spread? The cat dog?

• 2:27:47Speaker 06

  No, no, no, no, no.

• 2:27:49Speaker 02

  That's, you're not, some people aren't.

• 2:27:50Speaker 06

  That, I mean, it is cat, but that is pussy shit.

• 2:27:52Speaker 00

  I'm releasing a cat dog right now.

• 2:27:54Speaker 02

  He doesn't have a dog in you.

• 2:27:55Speaker 00

  I'm releasing a cat dog right now.

• 2:27:56Speaker 02

  No, you don't have a dog in you, that's okay.

• 2:27:57Speaker 04

  I'm taking both. I'm going...

• 2:27:59Speaker 00

  All right, the official cat dog play.

• 2:28:01Speaker 06

  Cat dog does translate to pussy dog, so I guess if you could.

• 2:28:03Speaker 00

  The official cat dog parlay. You ready for it?

• 2:28:05Speaker 02

  He is a hungry cat.

• 2:28:07Speaker 00

  It is Dolphins money line.

• 2:28:14Speaker 06

  That's it?

• 2:28:16Speaker 00

  I don't know what else I like in money line. Oh, it's so hard to win in this league, Hank. You make it so hard on yourself. Oh, I love the Falcons.

• 2:28:24Speaker 06

  Yeah, me too.

• 2:28:26Speaker 00

  All right, uh, the cat dog is Dolphins, Commanders.

• 2:28:31Speaker 02

  Ooh.

• 2:28:32Speaker 00

  And Vikings.

• 2:28:38Speaker 06

  I like that.

• 2:28:39Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:28:40Speaker 06

  I like that a lot.

• 2:28:41Speaker 02

  By the way, the Rams are five and a half point favorites, right? Not four and a half?

• 2:28:44Speaker 00

  Uh, four and a half now.

• 2:28:47Speaker 02

  Fuck it, I might do a PFTs.

• 2:28:49Speaker 00

  Okay. Well, no, that's, no, you can't say that I'm not a man and then do a tease.

• 2:28:54Speaker 02

  Well, I'm not, because I'm not labeling it as the PFTs dog.

• 2:28:57Speaker 00

  The cat dog is just bullying me into a cat dog.

• 2:29:01Speaker 02

  Well, yeah.

• 2:29:02Speaker 06

  As long as it doesn't have dog in the name, you can call it whatever you want.

• 2:29:03Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 2:29:04Speaker 00

  So I'll just do the cat.

• 2:29:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:29:06Speaker 00

  Dolphins plus seven.

• 2:29:07Speaker 06

  That's the fin.

• 2:29:09Speaker 02

  I like that. Yeah.

• 2:29:11Speaker 00

  All right, PFT, what's your, what's your Fyre Fest?

• 2:29:13Speaker 02

  Mine's more of an embrace debate that I got caught in somewhat of a ricochet situation when people were making, you know, they're having discussions online surrounding the Internet Invitational.

• 2:29:23Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:29:24Speaker 02

  And, uh, question was posed by Wesley Bryan. Wesley Bryan Golf.

• 2:29:28Speaker 00

  I saw this.

• 2:29:29Speaker 02

  Would the Internet Invitational be better or worse if you replace the eight highest handicap golfers there and added the eight best players in the world? Um, so just for the record, then he had a screenshot, and in the screenshot, it was, uh, the Duke, Calix, Jersey Jerry, me, Kyle Foregard, Trent, John Gruden, and the Jet. If we got rid of those eight, and then instead we added Scottie Scheffler, Rory McIlroy, Matt Fitzpatrick, Cameron Young, Wyndham Clark, Chris Goddard, Xander Shoffley, and Tommy Fleetwood.

• 2:30:01Speaker 00

  Would this, is this the most doesn't gut it tweet of all time?

• 2:30:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:30:07Speaker 00

  Like, dude, what, what are you talking about? You just, he basically was like, hey, wouldn't it be cool if I had to play against Scottie Scheffler?

• 2:30:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:15Speaker 06

  And he like, he did, but now he's on the tour.

• 2:30:18Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:30:19Speaker 06

  Like, he was, like, he wasn't, he was on the tour for a little while, he's not anymore.

• 2:30:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:24Speaker 06

  And now he's basically just being like, oh, man, wouldn't it be cool if I was playing on the tour?

• 2:30:27Speaker 02

  It was, do you guys think it'd be cool to watch me and my brother play against, like, the PGA Tour?

• 2:30:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:33Speaker 02

  And would you guys watch that? Um, I, I saw this list and I thought to myself, you know what? I would go the exact opposite way. I would rather get rid of the best eight players.

• 2:30:43Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:30:44Speaker 02

  And then add eight more that are worse than all of us.

• 2:30:47Speaker 00

  Because the worst players, like, when you're watching, the worst player, like, any shot could either be a disaster or awesome. And all these guys are really, really, like, a lot of these guys in the Internet Invitational are incredible golfers. And there's, there's definitely, you definitely need the good golfers. Like, Big John is an awesome golfer. That was an incredible moment. But yeah, what, would that moment have been better if Scottie Scheffler had hit a 20? No.

• 2:31:11Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:31:12Speaker 00

  So everyone been like, yeah, you're Scottie Scheffler, you're supposed to hit this shot.

• 2:31:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:17Speaker 06

  It's also like putting, like, even, I mean, Wesley Bryan and Ruffles are really the only, and Dahlki, like, they actually played PGA Tour events and played, like, high-level golf. I don't think Tooms played.

• 2:31:28Speaker 02

  I think he played on the Asian Tour.

• 2:31:30Speaker 06

  But, but they, so they have felt that pressure before. Everyone else, like, Big John's never had a putt for, like, that much money. Like, even, even the guys that are good have not had to have the pressure of that much money. Like, Scottie Scheffler and Master, like, a $4 million purse is, is nothing.

• 2:31:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. So, yeah, they, I, I would say that the, the Bob Does guys, Trent, Frankie, Riggs, they have put on an incredible tournament, and they should keep it the way it is and keep being the best, like, this is the best YouTube golf tournament that exists.

• 2:32:04Speaker 02

  I was looking at the numbers, and the numbers are actually crazy. No disrespect to Liv Golf, please. I don't want to speak ill of the team.

• 2:32:10Speaker 00

  Just buried it.

• 2:32:11Speaker 02

  Um, but I think their highest rated round ever...

• 2:32:14Speaker 06

  This is bullshit. I'm, I'm not, I, I...

• 2:32:16Speaker 02

  Can't even finish. Can't even finish the thought here.

• 2:32:18Speaker 00

  Can't exist.

• 2:32:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay, here comes PR spin.

• 2:32:21Speaker 06

  Well, I've seen, I've, I've, people, people, this is...

• 2:32:24Speaker 02

  Saudi Hank. Hank, what's the, the Wahhabist point of view on what I'm about to say?

• 2:32:28Speaker 06

  It's nonsense. You should be beheaded for this take.

• 2:32:31Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:32:32Speaker 06

  That, but go, continue.

• 2:32:34Speaker 02

  I was just gonna, I was gonna read numbers that were from a post sent by Barstool Sports.

• 2:32:38Speaker 06

  Yes. Continue.

• 2:32:40Speaker 02

  Okay, uh, the highest rated round in Liv history was 700,000 people on Fox. And then the Internet Invitational, the first video, I believe, is at about 12 million views. And all in, so far, the videos that have been released were closer to like 20 million. Now, I will say, that's completely different in terms of, like, a recorded thing that you can watch at your convenience versus a live event that everyone has to tune into. That's a different story. I agree.

• 2:33:07Speaker 06

  I like Washington Internet Invitational more than Liv, so I'm not arguing that. But yeah, the, the...

• 2:33:14Speaker 00

  Picking and choosing between like TV ratings and like YouTube views. It's not, it's not a one for one.

• 2:33:18Speaker 02

  There's plenty of room for both. If you're a massive fan.

• 2:33:20Speaker 00

  People were saying it's bigger than the Masters. It's like, it's not bigger than the Masters, but.

• 2:33:25Speaker 02

  Who said that?

• 2:33:26Speaker 00

  It was the same, the same like internet, like, you know, YouTube golf analytics people that are making these graphics.

• 2:33:32Speaker 02

  I think it's bigger than the Masters.

• 2:33:33Speaker 00

  Were, were making those comparisons. I'm not like, I agree that it's, it's better to watch and like electric. So I'm not arguing that. But the, you know, the one-to-one comparisons, let's just keep professional golf, like live and the PGA tour separate from the invitational.

• 2:33:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. Different, different levels to this.

• 2:33:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:50Speaker 02

  Right. Um, but yeah, live in PGA on one side. I would like. Invitation on the other. I would not mind if this was, uh.

• 2:33:58Speaker 00

  What if Bryson though? Cause he like, who knows what he's gonna do? Like, do you think, do you think Dave and, and, and Bob does guys like try and, try and pick off some of them?

• 2:34:09Speaker 02

  Bryson would be the only one that would be interesting because he's such a, like him getting chirped by the Duke would be incredible.

• 2:34:15Speaker 00

  Bryson would be very interesting.

• 2:34:17Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:34:18Speaker 00

  Especially because he does so much YouTube golf.

• 2:34:22Speaker 02

  Yeah. And I do think he would have the capacity to melt down.

• 2:34:24Speaker 00

  And Dave, oh, Dave and Bryson going at like, that would be.

• 2:34:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. So Bryson has it, but. I'll probably be matched up with him in the first round.

• 2:34:34Speaker 02

  That's pretty much my role. I've accepted my role, by the way, as just being sacrificial lamb at this thing. Um, although.

• 2:34:39Speaker 00

  Have you won one in, in?

• 2:34:40Speaker 02

  No, no, have, have yet to win a match at any.

• 2:34:43Speaker 00

  Me neither.

• 2:34:44Speaker 02

  Internet Invitational.

• 2:34:45Speaker 00

  Same.

• 2:34:45Speaker 02

  So what I, would I submit? And Hank gets embarrassed when I do this. So Hank, just close your ears. Um, I really think that Hank should play in next year's.

• 2:34:53Speaker 00

  The problem is he lost the grudge match. So just so that. Screwed me.

• 2:34:56Speaker 02

  Just so that I can.

• 2:34:57Speaker 00

  Screwed you. Yeah.

• 2:34:58Speaker 02

  Just so I can be matched up against him because can you imagine how badly I would beat the fuck out of Hank at the internet invitation?

• 2:35:04Speaker 00

  Wait, wait, whoa, hold on, timeout.

• 2:35:06Speaker 02

  With all those cameras? All the cameras in the world.

• 2:35:08Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, then you would.

• 2:35:08Speaker 02

  Like more cameras than you've ever seen in your life. All trained on Hank, playing around. Hank would shoot 120.

• 2:35:13Speaker 00

  That'd be awesome.

• 2:35:14Speaker 02

  And it would be great. And I would finally be able to win a match. So please, let's get Hank in there next year.

• 2:35:20Speaker 00

  Righty Hank. Lefty Hank was banned.

• 2:35:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:35:23Speaker 00

  Righty Hank was not. Um, it's not, it's never happening. All right, well, never say never.

• 2:35:28Speaker 02

  I might put in a phone call.

• 2:35:31Speaker 00

  Good luck. I'm sure Dave will just laugh, laugh, laugh you off the phone.

• 2:35:35Speaker 02

  I was gonna call, I was gonna call Gaz.

• 2:35:36Speaker 00

  I did have, I did have a conversation with Joey Cole cause there that like, I can say now he, we were like driving around on one, like the second or third day. And he was like, man, how do we get you into this thing? And I was like, you, like you tell me, like what, like it, it did, I got a little, I got a little triggered. Cause it was like him and the judge being like, man, like, what do we gotta do to get you in this thing? I was like, Joey, like it's your tournament.

• 2:35:59Speaker 02

  Let's get a petition. What if we do a petition?

• 2:36:01Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:36:03Speaker 02

  I would love to compete against.

• 2:36:04Speaker 00

  An online petition to get Hank in there.

• 2:36:06Speaker 02

  Because I cannot be on, I can't be on your team. I need to, we need to do this with some real stakes on the line.

• 2:36:11Speaker 00

  I think maybe we do it in a fair world though. We do a petition, Hank in the internet invitational, Hank 20 year ban in the invitational. And you gotta sign one or the other. Yeah, that, that would go great.

• 2:36:25Speaker 02

  It's a match.

• 2:36:25Speaker 00

  Hank is already so bad on camera.

• 2:36:30Speaker 00

  I can't imagine how bad you would be on this camera.

• 2:36:34Speaker 02

  I gotta see it.

• 2:36:35Speaker 00

  Not wrong. I got, I can't argue, I can't argue that. That's why I'm like. Like, cause I play a lot of golf with Hank. Hank is a good golfer. And then just the second, there's like the littlest bit of pressure of like, an iPhone camera behind him, you completely change. I can't imagine the, uh, uh, it would be, it would be phenomenal.

• 2:36:58Speaker 02

  I think it's because like guys like me and you, Max, we're comfortable being bad at golf. I, I, I accept the fact that I'm not a very good golfer. I have fun golfing. If I'm playing and somebody's videotaping me, I have no illusion that I'm going to make people think that I'm good when this video comes out. I think Hank still wants, he's still like chasing that.

• 2:37:16Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:37:17Speaker 02

  And then, and then you think about that. So when you take a swing and it's bad, it gets really in your own head. Just join us, accept it.

• 2:37:24Speaker 00

  I, I've accepted, like, trust me, I play a lot of golf and, and probably nine times out of 10, unless, no offense, unless I'm playing with like you guys, I'm usually like significantly by far the worst person in my group. So I'm like, I'm not.

• 2:37:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:37:36Speaker 00

  Like thinking that I'm good and like surprised when I play bad. Like I, I am resigned to, to the skill level of golf that I am. I just mentally am, am a disaster with cameras, but that I, those two aren't like the same. Like I, I know, I know where I'm at.

• 2:37:51Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:37:51Speaker 00

  But I have a question. I feel like when, like you, you belong to a club and you have like club tournaments and stuff like that. Correct me if I'm wrong. I feel like you play pretty decent in those. Sometimes, sometimes yes, sometimes no.

• 2:38:05Speaker 02

  Tough sport.

• 2:38:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. But okay. So would you say that? Those aren't as much, those are, it's, it's some, something about the cameras, like those, those, although the, I was in a three day tournament and the first day we like, me and my partner shit the bed in, in the worst way imaginable. But then you played really well. And then we came back. Yeah. But like the, the, the start, I got, I was nervous to start. And we were so bad that we put ourselves so far behind that it didn't matter. And then I had fun and we, when we did like pretty good after that, but yeah, it's, it's, I don't have the, the, the clutch gene. Or anything resembling it.

• 2:38:39Speaker 02

  That's fine. By the way, the, uh, the question that Wesley Bryan was asking about, like putting in, uh, some of the best players in the world or some of the worst, I thought Riggs made a really good point. If you got rid of the worst players, we would have been robbed of the par three with Jersey Jerry.

• 2:38:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:38:56Speaker 02

  And Trent.

• 2:38:56Speaker 00

  No, some.

• 2:38:57Speaker 02

  And Saleem and the Duke, which was the, my favorite hole of golf that I've ever seen played.

• 2:39:02Speaker 00

  That's the beauty of this tournament is that you get the whole wide range. People, I know that a lot of people like to watch the really good golfers on YouTube. But I think there's also a lot of people who like to see the entertainment of the bad golfers.

• 2:39:14Speaker 02

  Where you're gonna see somebody.

• 2:39:15Speaker 00

  And the humor.

• 2:39:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:39:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:39:17Speaker 02

  Like you're not going to get Scottie Scheffler hitting five shots out of a bunker and the last one like hitting himself in the neck.

• 2:39:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:39:23Speaker 02

  And then falling over backwards.

• 2:39:25Speaker 00

  Right. Uh, all right. My fire fest, not to pick on Hank, but it's actually for Hank. Uh, you misjudged, uh, grossly misjudged. Our friend who we mentioned on Wednesday's show, who runs this whole office, Chris, Chris B. Uh, Max, you, you, did you listen to that debate? About the urinal. Yeah. In the studio. So I told Chris afterwards, I was like, hey, just ask for a quote. And Hank was like, there's no way he wants to do this. I was like, ask for a quote, see what it is. I gave him a price. He came back. The price was like two and a half times what I said would be a reasonable amount.

• 2:40:03Speaker 00

  And I was like, all right, so we won't do it. And he goes, no, no, we have to do it now. Cause I didn't like that Hank said we shouldn't do it. And I don't like when people say I can't do something. So we gotta do it. So he literally was like, Hank saying we can't do it. I didn't say we can't. I didn't say we can't. No, he said we shouldn't.

• 2:40:20Speaker 02

  Are, are we getting a discount or he's like, we have to do it, but you're going to pay me two and a half times the price.

• 2:40:24Speaker 00

  No, no, he was like, I already got the funds cleared. Like we should do it.

• 2:40:28Speaker 02

  All right, let's go. That's awesome. Hank, this is good news.

• 2:40:32Speaker 00

  Hank, where do you want to put it? Where do you want to put it?

• 2:40:38Speaker 00

  In the bathroom.

• 2:40:40Speaker 02

  That's, you know, imagine.

• 2:40:41Speaker 00

  I was thinking right there on that wall. What do you guys think about that?

• 2:40:44Speaker 02

  That could be good.

• 2:40:46Speaker 02

  What if it was right here behind us?

• 2:40:48Speaker 00

  That also could be good.

• 2:40:49Speaker 02

  Get up in the middle of an interview.

• 2:40:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, you could turn around.

• 2:40:51Speaker 02

  Take a leak.

• 2:40:53Speaker 00

  Max, you want it in the booth? Put it in the booth? No, not in the booth.

• 2:40:56Speaker 02

  Why don't we put it maybe where the UG station used to be?

• 2:40:59Speaker 00

  That works too. No.

• 2:41:01Speaker 02

  That's illegal. So you'd have, you'd have like people stopping by, taking a piss.

• 2:41:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:41:06Speaker 02

  All day, just saying hi.

• 2:41:06Speaker 00

  What's up?

• 2:41:07Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:41:07Speaker 00

  Where do you want to put it, Max? I'm on Hank's side for this. This is ridiculous.

• 2:41:13Speaker 02

  You guys, sad.

• 2:41:14Speaker 00

  It's gonna smell like piss so quickly.

• 2:41:16Speaker 02

  You know what? You know what you guys are?

• 2:41:18Speaker 00

  And we have like.

• 2:41:18Speaker 02

  You know what you guys are?

• 2:41:19Speaker 00

  Guests that come in that.

• 2:41:20Speaker 02

  You're sellouts.

• 2:41:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. Not only that, you're not only sellouts, but what you just said, Max, you just doubled down. Baylor is going to want to put two in now.

• 2:41:29Speaker 00

  I, I believe that it can be done.

• 2:41:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:41:33Speaker 00

  I just don't believe it should be done.

• 2:41:35Speaker 02

  Okay. Not a fun guy. Cool. Good to know.

• 2:41:39Speaker 00

  It's gonna reek of piss. You know what? Yeah. You know what? PFT, actually this is a bad idea. You know, we, we gotta be like ESPN. We gotta be all prim and proper, clean up the studio, make it look nice. Don't piss in it. All that stuff, you know, that they do at the big companies.

• 2:41:52Speaker 02

  All right. Next question. Do you think Jalen Hurts is a top five NFL quarterback to cat?

• 2:41:56Speaker 00

  Let's talk about the Cowboys. LeBron is humming right now. Yes. See, this is the show you want. This is A W L's. This is the show. If, if Max and Hank had their way, there would be no pissing. And we would just only talk about the Cowboys and LeBron. Here's the thing in golf, here's the thing about, about you guys is you guys don't want the urinal in the, in the room.

• 2:42:19Speaker 02

  Oh, I honestly would.

• 2:42:20Speaker 00

  I do.

• 2:42:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:42:21Speaker 00

  No, no, you don't. I can see it in your face. No, I do. You just want someone else to say no, and then be like, oh, it's their fault that we're not getting. No, no, no. I would use the urinal if it was sitting, if it was right there. And then it would smell like piss and then you would be like, oh shit. You forgot about Zach filling it up with ice. Uh, and we have to dump the bucket.

• 2:42:38Speaker 02

  If you think this is a game of chicken for installing the urinal, uh, you're going to lose this game of chicken.

• 2:42:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:42:43Speaker 02

  Cause I'm not bluffing.

• 2:42:44Speaker 00

  Trough. Hank's gonna be sitting in a trough.

• 2:42:46Speaker 02

  Put it in. I want you to put it in.

• 2:42:48Speaker 00

  What, what, what was it?

• 2:42:49Speaker 02

  The ice bucket. We're going to fill the ice up and then dump the bucket of ice.

• 2:42:52Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:42:52Speaker 02

  Because you have to dump the ice in the urinal.

• 2:42:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:42:54Speaker 02

  That'd be kind of fun.

• 2:42:55Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, you're in. Yeah. You're in for the ice shop.

• 2:42:58Speaker 02

  I'm down for ice.

• 2:42:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:42:59Speaker 02

  Talk about a live stream, guys.

• 2:43:00Speaker 00

  The ice in the, in the urinal would solve. I mean, pissing on ice is the best. You go to a, you go to a, a, a bar that has ice in the urinal.

• 2:43:09Speaker 02

  Oh man, can you imagine?

• 2:43:10Speaker 00

  Bird's nest. Shout out bird's nest. Always got ice in that urinal.

• 2:43:13Speaker 02

  Imagine when the day comes and we get Ed Sheeran.

• 2:43:17Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:43:18Speaker 02

  And he comes in here. Wow. You talk about.

• 2:43:20Speaker 00

  You wouldn't even be able to pee next to him.

• 2:43:22Speaker 02

  Talk about redemption. No, that's why we get two.

• 2:43:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:43:24Speaker 02

  You're not listening.

• 2:43:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. Maybe three.

• 2:43:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. Because pairs of things look weird.

• 2:43:29Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:43:29Speaker 02

  Like if you're, if you're giving somebody flowers, either give them one flower, three flowers or five flowers. Don't give them two flowers. Don't give them four.

• 2:43:35Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 2:43:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:43:39Speaker 00

  We're gonna have the urinal, two, three urinals right next to the sauna in the studio.

• 2:43:43Speaker 02

  Sounds good.

• 2:43:44Speaker 04

  No for sauna.

• 2:43:47Speaker 00

  It would be funny if there was just a sauna in the corner.

• 2:43:50Speaker 04

  Cold plunge?

• 2:43:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, we could cold plunge.

• 2:43:52Speaker 04

  I, I like cold plunge.

• 2:43:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, so you're basically saying like the, you can't have a sauna and a cold plunge and no urinal.

• 2:43:59Speaker 02

  So everyone's just gonna pee in, in the sauna?

• 2:44:02Speaker 04

  There's gonna be so much liquid inside of this, inside of, actually, in there.

• 2:44:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:09Speaker 00

  No, you're getting a urinal now too.

• 2:44:10Speaker 04

  We're not getting a urinal.

• 2:44:11Speaker 00

  No, everyone gets, everyone gets a urinal.

• 2:44:13Speaker 04

  No, we're, no urinal back here.

• 2:44:15Speaker 00

  Yup, yup.

• 2:44:16Speaker 04

  No urinal back here.

• 2:44:17Speaker 00

  Alright, Zach.

• 2:44:19Speaker 03

  I had a pretty good week. If I had to pick a fire fest though, probably that, uh, Ronaldo has announced that he's gonna retire from international play.

• 2:44:26Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:44:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:44:27Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:44:28Speaker 02

  I thought he was gonna be sticking around with Portugal.

• 2:44:30Speaker 00

  I thought he was back after he scored that goal against Uzbekistan.

• 2:44:33Speaker 02

  And then after he made the coach like, promised to give him all these concessions for him being on the team and then wrote like a pre-arranged statement for the coach to read, and the coach didn't read that statement they had agreed on. I thought everything was cool.

• 2:44:44Speaker 00

  Oh, damn.

• 2:44:45Speaker 03

  Legacy lives on. They call the sun up. Cristiano Ronaldo Jr. Can carry the torch.

• 2:44:52Speaker 02

  How, how old is he?

• 2:44:53Speaker 03

  Uh, he's a youth, but they just called him up for the first time the other day.

• 2:44:58Speaker 02

  Okay. Is he good?

• 2:45:00Speaker 03

  Uh, he's Ronaldo's son. I mean, gotta, I mean, gotta be good. Not as good as Ronaldo, obviously, but.

• 2:45:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:07Speaker 03

  If you're gonna be called up to Nashville or to the

• 2:45:10Speaker 03

  team of country, gotta be kinda nice.

• 2:45:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably. Maybe they did it as a favor. That might have been one of the conditions.

• 2:45:14Speaker 03

  I would respect that either, as well.

• 2:45:16Speaker 02

  Do you think Ronaldo's got it in him to, um, whenever his contract's done in Saudi Arabia or whatever? Finish it out in MLS?

• 2:45:25Speaker 03

  Uh, you thi- do you think he'd come over here and play a couple of years?

• 2:45:28Speaker 02

  You think he, yeah, is that in the cards for Ronaldo?

• 2:45:31Speaker 03

  I think Ronaldo's like heavily driven by compensation most of the time, so if they're gonna pay him.

• 2:45:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:45:37Speaker 03

  Probably, which would be cool. Yeah.

• 2:45:41Speaker 02

  How are you gonna remember Ronaldo?

• 2:45:43Speaker 03

  I'm gonna remember Ronaldo. I'm not gonna remember Saudi Ronaldo too much, if we're gonna be honest. I'm just gonna remember Ronaldo take free kicks and then using Ronaldo to take free kicks on the game.

• 2:45:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I, I'm gonna remember him by that Uzbekistan game.

• 2:45:57Speaker 03

  The double, I'm back?

• 2:45:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's huge. So back.

• 2:46:01Speaker 03

  And also I've been greatest bounder of all time. Can't forget that. The people voted.

• 2:46:06Speaker 02

  Get out of here.

• 2:46:07Speaker 00

  Great statue too.

• 2:46:08Speaker 02

  Great statue. He's, he's been washed forever.

• 2:46:15Speaker 02

  Alright, anything else?

• 2:46:18Speaker 03

  That was it. Pretty good week?

• 2:46:19Speaker 00

  Good week?

• 2:46:20Speaker 03

  Good week, boys.

• 2:46:20Speaker 02

  How late did you stay up last night, Zach?

• 2:46:23Speaker 03

  That was misinformation by Jerry. It wasn't that late.

• 2:46:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, Jerry missed WUB?

• 2:46:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, Jerry did miss WUB, yeah. I was worried actually, because I hadn't heard from Jerry by like eight this morning.

• 2:46:33Speaker 03

  Well, he missed it, but then he spun it into Zach was up late. And I was like, Jerry, what are we doing?

• 2:46:37Speaker 02

  He blamed it on you.

• 2:46:38Speaker 03

  Anything, yeah, how did I? It was a mess.

• 2:46:41Speaker 04

  So, so what was, what's the number?

• 2:46:43Speaker 03

  Not that late, like 3:30. It's not bad at all.

• 2:46:45Speaker 02

  You sure?

• 2:46:46Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:46:47Speaker 02

  I heard different.

• 2:46:47Speaker 03

  I heard, well, he

• 2:46:50Speaker 03

  that was just Jerry reaching for anything other than Jerry. And somehow I became the boss.

• 2:46:54Speaker 02

  I heard 6:00 AM.

• 2:46:55Speaker 03

  It wasn't six. It was, it was like

• 2:46:59Speaker 00

  I'm just nervous about Jerry. Jerry walked into the office at like nine o'clock and he looked like he was still sleeping. I was like, how'd you get here, dude?

• 2:47:08Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:47:08Speaker 00

  He's like, I missed my alarm. I was like, but you also look like you haven't woken up yet.

• 2:47:13Speaker 03

  You sleep behind the wheel?

• 2:47:14Speaker 02

  Yeah. How late was Jerry up?

• 2:47:16Speaker 03

  I have no idea. I didn't know Jerry was keeping tabs on how late I was up. That was news to me this morning.

• 2:47:20Speaker 02

  Interesting.

• 2:47:22Speaker 02

  Um, as a reminder, Baton Rouge, come out to Fred's tonight.

• 2:47:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:47:26Speaker 02

  It should be a good time.

• 2:47:27Speaker 00

  Also

• 2:47:28Speaker 02

  Come see Pup Punk open up for Shaq.

• 2:47:30Speaker 00

  Also Saturday, uh, 4:30 Eastern, college football show, Barstool College Football Show in South Bend. So if you're going to Miami, Notre Dame, come out to the show. It's gonna be awesome. If you have kids, bring them. No cursing. We're gonna treat it like a real TV show. If Mike Kadek says a swear, he owes me a thousand dollars.

• 2:47:51Speaker 02

  Love that.

• 2:47:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. Every, every swear is a thousand dollars that he owes me. And if he doesn't swear, I'll give him a thousand. He's gonna swear. No, he's not. No, he's not.

• 2:48:01Speaker 04

  23.

• 2:48:02Speaker 00

  Uh, 3.

• 2:48:04Speaker 04

  Did you say numbers?

• 2:48:05Speaker 00

  No, numbers, damn it.

• 2:48:07Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 2:48:07Speaker 03

  54.

• 2:48:08Speaker 00

  Max, I are out.

• 2:48:09Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 2:48:10Speaker 02

  I'm gonna go 23.

• 2:48:12Speaker 04

  Wait, we just go last?

• 2:48:13Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know, I know.

• 2:48:14Speaker 04

  I'm gonna do 48. Matthew Shaver.

• 2:48:18Speaker 03

  54, Liv.

• 2:48:21Speaker 00

  Everyone else?

• 2:48:22Speaker 03

  About 38, Brendan Hagle.

• 2:48:25Speaker 04

  37, Hella Buck.

• 2:48:29Speaker 02

  69, Doug Watt.

• 2:48:32Speaker 04

  8, The Goat.

• 2:48:33Speaker 00

  How did you not do 3? I do 3 memes. What if this is 3? You had a chance to take 3?

• 2:48:38Speaker 04

  That's okay, it's just another loss.

• 2:48:40Speaker 00

  No, but that would have been an all-time dunk on me.

• 2:48:42Speaker 04

  No, we're doing a, we're doing hockey numbers, you know?

• 2:48:45Speaker 00

  Alright, Max?

• 2:48:47Speaker 04

  You guys see those cool jerseys?

• 2:48:48Speaker 03

  I'm not doing that. I'm doing 23.

• 2:48:51Speaker 00

  Very cool jerseys.

• 2:48:52Speaker 04

  Very cool jerseys.

• 2:49:09Speaker 00

  24.

• 2:49:10Speaker 02

  Oh!

• 2:49:11Speaker 00

  Damn it.

• 2:49:12Speaker 04

  Ah, he was so close, PFT.

• 2:49:13Speaker 03

  So close.

• 2:49:14Speaker 04

  Maybe he did a hockey number.

• 2:49:15Speaker 02

  It was, it was rough. Who's 24 in hockey?

• 2:49:17Speaker 04

  I don't know.

• 2:49:17Speaker 03

  You did 25, PFT?

• 2:49:18Speaker 04

  No, he did 23.

• 2:49:20Speaker 03

  Oh, I did 20. Oh, did you?

• 2:49:21Speaker 02

  Yeah, cuz you messed this up.

• 2:49:22Speaker 04

  Those really cool jerseys.

• 2:49:23Speaker 03

  I did 23 again, so I didn't even have a number.

• 2:49:25Speaker 02

  I keep saying these really cool jerseys.

• 2:49:27Speaker 04

  They're so cool.

• 2:49:27Speaker 03

  77.

• 2:49:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you're saying it in a weird way.

• 2:49:29Speaker 04

  They're so cool.

• 2:49:30Speaker 02

  Explain yourself.

• 2:49:31Speaker 04

  Specifically, Islanders, Mighty Ducks, Devils.

• 2:49:34Speaker 02

  Caps look great too.

• 2:49:35Speaker 04

  Yeah, caps, dude.

• 2:49:40Speaker 04

  69?

• 2:49:42Speaker 00

  68.

• 2:49:42Speaker 02

  Ah!

• 2:49:45Speaker 00

  68.

• 2:49:46Speaker 04

  Damn it.

• 2:49:47Speaker 02

  I would like to wish a very, very special happy birthday to somebody out there. We love you. You were a big part of my life growing up.

• 2:49:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:49:56Speaker 02

  A really big part of Big Cat's life growing up.

• 2:49:58Speaker 00

  Same.

• 2:49:59Speaker 02

  Part of probably a lot of our listeners' lives growing up. Rebecca Romayne.

• 2:50:03Speaker 00

  Our queen.

• 2:50:04Speaker 02

  Happy birthday, queen. We love you.

• 2:50:06Speaker 00

  Queen of the PMT.

• 2:50:06Speaker 02

  As a matter of fact, I'm not gonna, it's just her day today. This is for you, babe. Happy birthday. And that'll be it. This is your special day. Nobody else gets a birthday wish.

• 2:50:16Speaker 03

  I love that.

• 2:50:17Speaker 02

  Except also Aaron Hernandez. Happy birthday. Love you guys.

• 2:52:23Speaker 00

  We're gonna get right back to the show. Okay, let's be honest. Sometimes choosing what to watch is less about what you wanna watch and more about what mood are you in? Maybe you wanna laugh until you cry, maybe you want edge of your seat drama, and maybe you wanna escape reality entirely. And I love that Amazon Prime lets you follow that feeling beyond the screen. You can find the shows, movies, and sports that give you exactly the vibe you're craving on Prime Video. And with Prime's fast shipping, you can get the things you need to make that moment even better, delivered right to your door.

• 2:52:57Speaker 01

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• 2:53:06Speaker 00

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