World Series Champion Sal Frelick In Studio, The Bears Demolish The Seahawks, The First CFB Rankings Are Out + Plus Listener Football Takes

The first CFB rankings are out and they intentionally trolled College Football fans to get mad about how they ranked the teams (00:00:00-00:16:14). MLB lockout maybe has a solution? (00:16:14-00:25:53) Bears dominate the Seahawks on MNF and they're looking very scary with the debut of Big Jeff Simmons. We clean up some NFL things from Sunday as well (00:25:53-00:59:59). Hot Seat/Cool Throne talking Lebron sipping mid game, Gardner Minshew named starter and more (00:59:59-01:39:23). Milwaukee Brewer Sal Frelick joins the show after winning the World Series to talk about an incredible season, what makes the Brewers approach so different, his manager Pat Murphy, and whether or not Yelich will compete in the HR Derby (01:39:23-02:14:17). We finish with listener football takes. You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  On today's part of my take presented by DraftKings. We've got a great show for you. We've got Sal Frelick, World Series Champion Sal Frelick in studio. We're going to talk Monday Night Football. The Bears look real, real good after beating the Seahawks in Seattle. Hot seat, cool throne. We have our first college football rankings, so we're going to discuss those. Also, we have the biggest Saturday of the year coming up. Talk a little college football at the start. And then we have listener takes at the end, some good football takes to get the boys going. Also, Hank doesn't want to want us to have a urinal in the studio. So you'll listen to that as well.

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  Welcome to part of my take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, November 4th. And PFT, we are on Zoom because we wanted to start the show with the first college football rankings. We'll be back in studio in a minute to talk Monday Night Football, Sal Frelick, and the show. Also, Max is sick, so he's not on the show after that, but Max is here for the Zoom. But PFT, we were like, he's here, he's here. We were like, hey, the first college football rankings are coming out. Let's give the, we owe it to the fans to at least discuss them. And I'm going to say something. I think, I think the committee did a great job. I think they did a great job.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  Okay, and you, and you love the 2014 playoff?

• 3:02Speaker 00

  No, here, follow me on this. We are on the precipice Saturday of a monumental college football Saturday where a lot of this stuff is going to get figured out. So do I actually think the committee did a good job? No, they fucked a lot of shit up, but I appreciate the committee fucking shit up that will most likely get decided on the field so that we have something to talk about on a Tuesday night. So they basically gave us fodder where they're like, hey, you know what we should do? We should rank Alabama number five and Tennessee, who dog walked Alabama 13. That makes sense. Oh, you know what we should do? We should rank Ohio State 12 and USC 20, both two lost teams, and USC just dog walked

• 3:45Speaker 00

  Ohio State. So none of it made sense. And I appreciate them giving us something to distract us from politics and whatever's going on and give us just some stupid college football debates when we know by Saturday, half of these debates are going to be decided.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  Well, what I like about it is that anytime that you can put a two-loss SEC team ahead of a zero-loss Big Ten team, you have to do it. You just, you just gotta do it. And if we're doing our political headlines that masquerade as college football headlines tonight, there was no red wave.

• 4:21Speaker 00

  No.

• 4:21Speaker 02

  But there was a crimson tide.

• 4:23Speaker 00

  Yes, yes. Alabama five is crazy.

• 4:26Speaker 02

  At five, five is absolutely fucking insane that they put them at five. And I think you're right. I think they did it just to get people pissed off, get people talking.

• 4:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, because here's why.

• 4:37Speaker 02

  Crazy. I don't, I don't really understand it, their, their logic. I heard Hunter Yurichak's big head get on TV and start to flap his gums about what he thought. And basically, he's a punching bag. And Hunter Yurichak is on TV. He is on there. He's memorized the talking points. He's memorized the different, like, they, they always have different new slang terms for things that they evaluate differently every year. This year is the pods. The teams were placed into certain pods, like it's the Love is Blind experiment. And then you evaluate them based on the other teams in that cohort of the pods, which is why you don't have teams such as Ohio State and Indiana being evaluated head

• 5:20Speaker 02

  to head because they're not in the same pods to begin with.

• 5:23Speaker 00

  Could we know who's better? How could we know who's better, Ohio State or Indiana?

• 5:27Speaker 02

  If they were in the same pods, then we might be able to look at head to head. But since they're, they're in separate pods, it doesn't work with, with Alabama in particular. I think their entire reasoning was just that they beat Mississippi State.

• 5:39Speaker 00

  Well, and also that they were kind of injured against Georgia. I think that was pretty much it too. Like, oh yeah, they were kind of injured because it does make no sense otherwise. And yeah, here's where, here's why, like, obviously I'm being tongue in cheek because it's a baffling rankings. UCLA should be pissed. Tennessee should be pissed. USC should be pissed. Like, there's a lot of people that should be pissed. But again, it's all going to get settled on the field in the next couple of weeks, especially this Saturday. The only thing that they did, that they did correctly was the mistake they made last year. They fixed it. Notre Dame at 11 was correct. Cause Notre Dame, they put Notre Dame at 11. Remember this year is the year where if Notre Dame's in the top 12, they're in no matter

• 6:22Speaker 00

  what. So there could be a 20th ranked Boise, a 12th ranked Notre Dame. And that would mean the 10th and 11th ranked teams would not make the playoff, which is crazy, but that's just the new rule. But they basically put Notre Dame at 11 and said, you got to win on Saturday. There's nothing that Notre Dame can do. If they lose on Saturday, they have nothing left. They have SMU who just lost to Syracuse. They have nothing left to make up for it. Putting, if they had put them at seven, that would have been a problem. If they had put them at, you know, higher than that, where it's like, oh, if they lose to Miami, they could maybe drop to 12 and then they could fight their way back in. I think putting Notre Dame at 11 was the correct move. Everything else, they just basically were like, how can we piss people off and give

• 7:06Speaker 00

  them fodder? So I appreciate at least them doing that one thing correctly.

• 7:10Speaker 02

  Okay. So there's one other name that's jumping off the screen to me. I, I haven't really given this one that much thought. So maybe you can help me out and tell me what the, the rest of the schedule looks like for them. Wake Forest feels like they got fucked.

• 7:21Speaker 00

  Dude, Wake Forest is playing good football.

• 7:24Speaker 02

  Wake Forest is a good football team and they've won a lot. They, they dominate inferior opponents.

• 7:29Speaker 00

  They haven't played anyone though. That's the problem with.

• 7:31Speaker 02

  They haven't played anybody, but they're, they're at 16. I don't know what the strength of record is. My guess is, is probably pretty good because they've, they've shit pumped the bad teams that they've played. So with them at 16 and Texas Tech at 15, if Wake, like Wake Forest, they're, they're, are they going to win out?

• 7:49Speaker 00

  Well, if they, well, no, so they would, they would have a chance.

• 7:51Speaker 02

  They went out, they're good.

• 7:52Speaker 00

  Well, if they, if they go to the ACC Championship game, they can get in by just beating Miami, which they did play Miami. Actually, North Carolina played Miami really tough, but up until North Carolina, they played and Florida State did. Miami's got problems. I think Miami's going to be, but Wake Forest, so could win the ACC. They don't have, they have SMU still on their schedule. They have Georgia Tech and Duke. Georgia Tech's been god awful. Duke has been up and down, but they're like overall not a terrible team. And Merrimack, so Fasoli's Merrimack, which that, I don't think that's going to help them much next weekend. But yeah, Wake Forest, but they at least have a path because they could win the ACC. Like they could, they could find their way.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  Outside of that, it's going to be tough for them. 16 feels a little bit low. Just off the top of my head for Wake Forest. Tennessee, you have a fair gripe, but again, Tennessee, you can do something about it.

• 8:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, Tennessee has a very fair gripe because they've lost two games by three points. They lost to number one Texas by three points. They lost at, at South Carolina, tough place to play by three points. Meanwhile, Alabama lost at home to Georgia and then got killed by Tennessee. How does that make any sense? I do not understand.

• 9:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, they got, they got fucked big time. One small thing about the whole process with the committee. My favorite thing that they do is they go into the room and before they enter the room, they take their hats off at the door and they hang their hats up on the hat rack. The idea being, once you enter this room, it's not about what team you represent. It's not about the school that you're from. You take your hat off and you go in that room and you do the work of the committee. My problem is the hat that they wear is the college football playoff committee hat. So they take off the playoff committee hat and then they hang that hat on the hat rack.

• 9:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 9:44Speaker 02

  Before they go into, they should take off, they got it all backwards. Like they, they fucked up the entire meeting of the whole thing.

• 9:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. It also, uh, it was maybe funny the first year. Now that they're doing it and they know like, there's nothing worse than a bunch of people who, I think we all just hate because they just dig, they get in there and they make the dumbest decisions. It doesn't feel like they watch ball. They're, they're a little, they're leaning too much into it. You know, when they'll take the picture, when it, when it'll be like the, the hummus tray and, and, and, uh, a bunch of vegetables and like six TVs that they wheeled into the, to the Marriott, uh, ballroom. And they'll take a picture and be like, look at us watching ball. I'm, I'm done with that. Shut up. Just fucking rank the teams correctly. I don't need the hat video. Just rank the teams correctly and realize that Tennessee played Alabama.

• 10:31Speaker 02

  Do you understand what I'm saying about the hat though?

• 10:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. They took off the impartial hat for no reason.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  It's, yes, it's, they're, they're, they're stupid as shit. That doesn't make any sense.

• 10:42Speaker 00

  But yeah, you're right. They're like,

• 10:42Speaker 00

  The video itself just pisses me off because they're cute.

• 10:45Speaker 02

  When you're checking that on TV and he's like, oh, six, seven last year.

• 10:49Speaker 00

  Right.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  Yeah. We don't need that.

• 10:50Speaker 00

  Shut up. You guys should, I, you know who I want doing this? I want dorks. I want dorks who know that they're dorks and they don't try to be cool. Like I want actual like, you know, glasses, uh, Cornacki should do it. Honestly, just put Cornacki in this and he, I trust him to do it. He'd know what he's doing. Just get up on the big board. Just throw them around. You don't have to watch ball.

• 11:12Speaker 02

  It's khakis going out there. Yeah. What do you think about, uh, UCLA being ranked at, at eight?

• 11:17Speaker 00

  I, so I think you can, you can go, it's a non-answer. I think you go either way. Uh, I fully understand. They have not played pretty much anyone. Uh, Wisconsin. That's, yeah. I mean, Wisconsin's bad and Oregon is bad. Uh, so they haven't really played anyone. But I do think that, that in a year where everyone is losing left and right, and there's chaos every single weekend, being undefeated should be rewarded. So they were probably like, I would have, I think they should have probably been, you know what? If UCLA was five and Alabama was eight, that probably would have been fine. Like that would have been a good spot for, for both the teams. You know, like I, I do think being undefeated, you should get credit. Winning all your games is hard, especially in a big conference. Yes.

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  The schedule is not that tough, but doesn't matter. Every, I mean, Georgia lost to Auburn as a 20-point under, uh, as 20-point favorite. You can lose to anyone, any weekend. We've learned that this, this year. So being undefeated should count for more than, than what UCLA got credit for.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  I agree, especially when you have two lost teams ahead of them. That's just, it doesn't, it doesn't sit right with me.

• 12:23Speaker 00

  But overall, like I said, the big thing is they, they basically have told Notre Dame, you have to win this weekend. And I do think Notre Dame is going to win this weekend. So I think it will solve itself. And Utah plays BYU. Utah's three, BYU is nine. They play on Saturday. Alabama at five and LSU at 14. They play on Saturday. That would be my only like, it does feel,

• 12:47Speaker 02

  Thing.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:49Speaker 02

  When you, when you look at, when you look at Houston, or sorry, when you look at Utah, Utah, I'd say their schedule is, is slightly more difficult than UCLA is this far. But it's not like they've played a great schedule either. I don't think it's even that much different.

• 13:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. Utah, I mean, going on the, I mean, the Cincinnati game was pretty tough. They, they had to play Oklahoma state. I want to say, where knows Houston came to Utah. Uh, last weekend that, I mean, Houston's a top 20 team.

• 13:17Speaker 02

  Houston, that, that's, that's the best one. Then they were at Colorado. They hosted Kansas. They went to Iowa state. Utah state at home. Uh, they hosted Arkansas and they hosted Idaho. Like that's not, that's not a great schedule. But they get, I don't know. I feel like UCLA got fucked on this one.

• 13:34Speaker 00

  I think it's, yeah. I mean, I, I'm, I'm okay. I think they got fucked a little bit, but it's like, we always knew that their, UCLA always kind of knew that they have to, they can maybe take, they can take one loss and that's probably it. Like, because the schedule just isn't, it like, it's not even their, it's definitely not their fault because Oregon has sucked. Like Oregon has just been bad. I, you expected that to be a, a signature win. Oregon's a dog shit team.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  I also think, I, I know they're the defending champions, but I feel like I could take any team six through 14. That's Kentucky, all the way through LSU and a neutral field against this Indiana team. I think any one of those teams could beat Indiana.

• 14:18Speaker 00

  I think Indiana could beat any one of those teams.

• 14:22Speaker 00

  That's the beauty of Indiana. They, they, their defense, their defense is so, so good. But you say that they haven't looked great and they haven't, they're Nick Marsh away from being undefeated. Like Nick Marsh having his foot out of bounds is, is what kept him from undefeated. And I, again, I think it's like winning the games, like they've, yeah, it has not looked pretty in their offense. Like I don't, I don't think they're going to win the title again, but I, I would not, I would take that defense against anyone in, in staying in games. And they made the switch, you know, Josh Hoover's been injured, but I, yeah, I, I still think Signetti with that defense and his coaching. I'd still take them against a lot of teams just because they just, they have a knack for it. They have a way to win.

• 15:09Speaker 02

  And I guess this is all trivial because it will, it's going to work its way out.

• 15:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. But it's fun. It's fun. That's why I said, that's who, that was my point from the beginning. I appreciate the committee giving us stupid fodder that will be completely irrelevant in a matter of like five days. Because really the big takeaway is Notre Dame has to win. And Texas and Alabama are the two SEC teams that can probably get in with three losses. That's what they've, that's what they've told us with these rankings.

• 15:40Speaker 00

  So, all right. Anything else on college football? I mean, it feels like every weekend is just, you know, Matt, I mean, the Minnesota, Indiana game, that was, that game was just so insane. The fact that there were two 60 yard kicks, the minute, the Indiana kicker is, was like the worst kicker ever. And then he's like, yeah, I'll just hit a 60 yarder. And then USC, Lincoln Riley, that guy's got some problems. He, he, he wins that game and then immediately goes aggro on like his entire fan base being like, it's this win is for guys in here. He's, he's, he's basically, he's basically, I think, just walking around constantly triggered right now. And, uh, he's got a big one against Indiana coming up. And yeah, I mean, it's just fun. Like every single weekend in college football has delivered this year.

• 16:27Speaker 00

  And Wisconsin stinks. I said, I knew I was coming. Iowa has, I think it's like, I think it's like 78 points in a row that Iowa scored on Wisconsin. It's bad. It's getting really bad.

• 16:38Speaker 02

  That's tough.

• 16:38Speaker 00

  It's really bad.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  That's tough. Cause like Iowa, Iowa truly is that, that is like the measuring stick for Wisconsin.

• 16:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's bad. Um, all right. What else do we have? Anything? Uh, do you, does anyone understand the baseball thing that happened today? And we want to take a stab at it?

• 16:53Speaker 02

  In like very broad strokes.

• 16:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. Go for it.

• 16:59Speaker 02

  Um, there was a proposal to not implement the salary cap until 2028, but do everything else that they want to do starting next season.

• 17:10Speaker 00

  Okay. So that would be a way to maybe meet in the middle and play baseball right away?

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Maybe not miss any games. Yeah. That's the, that's the idea that they're going for.

• 17:19Speaker 00

  And who does this people? Yeah. Go ahead, Max.

• 17:22Speaker 02

  MLB proposed it.

• 17:23Speaker 03

  I think that this is like the, the very, very beginning of an, of the negotiation because there's no way that the players would accept a 2028 salary cap. So it's like, we'll give you everything else, but we want the 2028 cap. And then it's going to go just way further down the line from 2028.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. So what happened was major league baseball proposed that we, we do everything except for the salary cap starting next year. And then we implement the salary cap in 2028. And also, oh yeah, we will increase the cap and the floor from the first proposal that we had. So I think the total that they, um, just projected today was a 258.2 million dollar cap and 180.2 million dollar floor. So that is 13 million higher on the cap. And nine million higher on the floor.

• 18:19Speaker 00

  Got it. So are we going to play baseball?

• 18:21Speaker 02

  So they are, it sounds like, it sounds like they're talking.

• 18:25Speaker 00

  Okay. They're having talks.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  They're, they're, yes, they have an ice each other out. It's good. Honestly, my, my takeaway from this is this is a good development that we have.

• 18:36Speaker 00

  Okay. I, that's, yeah. I mean, I'm, I'm team, there's not going to be a lockout because I just, I refuse to, I'm just going to live in blissful ignorance. And just ignore the facts and the problems that exist in this world. I, I, I ask anyone who would like to join me, join me. It's fun. Like when the lockout is finally announced and be like, what? How? Why? Who saw this coming? That's my reaction.

• 19:03Speaker 00

  And if it doesn't happen, I'm like, told you guys what?

• 19:06Speaker 03

  I do have one question about the lockout that I know no one, actually, maybe you can answer it. What happens to the salaries that are already in place?

• 19:18Speaker 02

  Good question, Max. So, um, players don't get paid in the offseason regardless.

• 19:24Speaker 03

  So no, I'm talking about like, if there's a salary cap.

• 19:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:27Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah. And wants and Juan Soto is making like a hundred million dollars a year. Is that just the whole cap? Like the Mets are just fucked in 10 years?

• 19:38Speaker 02

  Oh, you like, how do they retroactively put in salaries that were done pre cap?

• 19:43Speaker 03

  Like Bryce Harper, the Phillies may have a couple of guys, guys, and I'm wondering, can we just never sign anyone again?

• 19:50Speaker 02

  That's a, that's a good question. I think if there's, you can't, you can't punish a team for signing people to contracts. Before there was ever a rule in place about the salary cap.

• 19:59Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  I'm sure they'll figure out a way.

• 20:02Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, no, that, that's why there might be a ton of free agency action. Like in the next couple of weeks before it happens, because teams are like, let's just get it in. And then they'll figure it out later. Yeah, no, I, I.

• 20:17Speaker 03

  That could make the offseason a little fun.

• 20:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, no.

• 20:20Speaker 02

  I thought you were asking about like.

• 20:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  The, uh, the actual, the, the paychecks. Cause they, they don't start, that's when we're going to have the rubber meet the road is when. Players start missing game checks and their salary that they get paid during the season and owners start missing, uh, ticket revenue. That's when, if, if they don't have a deal in place by that point, that will force them probably to get together and work something out.

• 20:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's become a game of chicken. Who can outwash who? Zach?

• 20:48Speaker 04

  With the proposed floor though, there's the 12 teams will have to spend a combined 636 million dollars. Just to get to that 180 mark.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Oh, there's 12 teams. Teams that aren't.

• 21:01Speaker 04

  Yeah. 12 teams under the current 180 that didn't spend that last year. So it's almost a billion dollars that would be pumped in.

• 21:07Speaker 02

  I'll bet there'll be some owners that figured like, this isn't for me. I need to sell my team because I don't want to spend that money.

• 21:13Speaker 00

  Which would be great. I wish there could just be a floor with no cap.

• 21:18Speaker 00

  That would be cool. That would be awesome. I don't think that's possible, but.

• 21:21Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:22Speaker 00

  Feels like that would fix a lot of the problems. Just being like, hey, you have to spend more money. For all the idiots who just don't spend money. Um, yeah, it's, you know what? They're not going to lock out. It's fine. We're all good. We're all good. Uh, all right. Uh, I think that's it. Let's get to back in studio. Max feel better. We call Max.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Uh, I've, I have one question for you, for you, big cat.

• 21:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  If you are North Carolina State. Who you hire to be your head coach? Philip Rivers or Russell Wilson? Because they're both getting, they're both getting luck.

• 21:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. So Philip Rivers is, uh, I think is like, oh, not realistic, but like that one at least makes a little sense. Russell Wilson, this was just a gratuity. Interview, right? He hasn't coached. They're just doing it so that he, the next time he could be like, I've done this before. I've, I've interviewed before.

• 22:16Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:17Speaker 00

  Right?

• 22:17Speaker 02

  Did him a favor?

• 22:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. There's no way. Phil Rivers at least coaches like high school, doesn't he?

• 22:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  What about Trent Dilfer? Did he, was he a coach before, uh, UAB hired him?

• 22:31Speaker 00

  Uh, he was, yeah, he was a high school coach. Like Dion was a high school coach before Jackson.

• 22:35Speaker 03

  And isn't Philip Rivers' son?

• 22:40Speaker 00

  Which one?

• 22:40Speaker 03

  Sorry.

• 22:42Speaker 00

  He's got 11.

• 22:43Speaker 03

  Isn't one of, isn't, his son is a quarter, is a freshman quarterback at NC State.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  So that isn't it, isn't that?

• 22:51Speaker 00

  Like the odds are, yes. I, I don't know if that's true, but he has so many kids that yes, one of them is going to be the, the NC State quarterback at some point.

• 22:59Speaker 03

  Quigs told me that there's a, they have a four star, like freshman who, uh, who's Philip Rivers' son that eventually will be the starting quarterback of NC State.

• 23:09Speaker 02

  So this is like.

• 23:10Speaker 00

  Wow. How'd they land him?

• 23:12Speaker 02

  He's, he stays at NC State.

• 23:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. I guess that would make sense. That'd be funny for him to coach his son in a major college football conference.

• 23:23Speaker 03

  Quigs is also a pathological liar and lies about everything. So that could just not be true at all.

• 23:31Speaker 02

  Wow. That's, that's unpointed.

• 23:34Speaker 03

  If you, he is, he is.

• 23:36Speaker 02

  I disagree.

• 23:37Speaker 00

  He would lie about this? Yeah. Gunner Rivers, son of Philip Rivers commits to NC State four star quarterback Gunner Rivers. 2027.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Quigs lie to you about that? That got you so frustrated there, Max? That felt like.

• 23:50Speaker 03

  It's not frustrating. If you, if you know Quigs well, he lies about everything and makes everything a bit. Even though it's things that you wouldn't think of as a bit. And this means nothing.

• 24:02Speaker 00

  We would never.

• 24:02Speaker 03

  This means nothing to the listener at all. It's just the five people that talk to Quigs very regularly will know what I'm saying.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  Yeah. He's very sarcastic and turns everything into like some weird little, uh, behind the scenes, ha, ha, ha.

• 24:16Speaker 00

  Hey, confirm.

• 24:18Speaker 05

  No, I think he's a pretty straight up guy. In my experience.

• 24:21Speaker 00

  So I think Max just intellectually can't understand Quigs.

• 24:27Speaker 03

  This is, this is a pointless conversation we're having right now.

• 24:30Speaker 05

  How do we even had this conversation?

• 24:31Speaker 03

  That's true. That's true. That's true.

• 24:35Speaker 00

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• 27:08Speaker 00

  Okay, boys. Monday night football. Bears go to Seattle, Super Bowl champs. Kick the shit out of them. Kick the absolute shit out of them. 34-17. I don't know where you guys want to start. I mean, we start with big Jeff. Big Jeff has changed my life. The Bears have gone from a defense that was very suspect, little pass rush, had to blitz a lot. I think Dennis Allen was blitzing it like close to 50% last, on Monday night, they're, they blitzed 20%, still got pressure. Big Jeff is just a mammoth of a human being and it, I couldn't take my eyes off.

• 27:45Speaker 02

  Do people call him Big Jeff beforehand?

• 27:47Speaker 00

  I think so. Yeah.

• 27:48Speaker 02

  What's great is-

• 27:49Speaker 00

  Is that okay with you?

• 27:50Speaker 02

  Yeah, I was just curious.

• 27:50Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 27:50Speaker 02

  Is the orange sleeves.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  Well, yeah, it's for his daughter.

• 27:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, the orange sleeves. You're like, I have to watch that guy.

• 27:56Speaker 00

  Can't get my eyes off him.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  He looked awesome. And then by him being on the field, his mere presence made Montez Sweat have an awesome game, too.

• 28:03Speaker 00

  Montez Sweat best PED was Big Jeff.

• 28:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, he just needed a bigger Jeff in his life.

• 28:07Speaker 00

  It was, it was crazy to watch because it's like the, the Bears defense last year, the first seven weeks of this season, it was kind of the same thing where it's like Dennis Allen, I, I said this before, but Dennis Allen had that unit punching above their weight, where they were playing okay, they're playing good at times, they're really elite on third down. But the whole time I was like, hey, if a good offense plays this Bears defense, they can have us. They could, they, our secondary is weak. Our pass rush is not there. They can have us. Now with Big Jeff, like White Boy Rick, one of our guys here, uh, said after the game, and I agree with him. He's like, I almost want Ryan Poles to call up Titans and be like, here, take another first round pick because it was that worth it.

• 28:51Speaker 00

  He's changed everything.

• 28:53Speaker 02

  You don't tip your opposing GM? Sometimes you put a little 20% on top of it.

• 28:56Speaker 00

  Five stars Uber Eats Tennessee Titans.

• 28:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, great job. Yeah, leave a nice review for him. It was, uh, it was awesome to watch that defense look legit. And then after the game, I liked it in the locker room when you had Montez Sweat teaching Big Jeff about the, uh, good, better, best.

• 29:11Speaker 00

  Better best.

• 29:12Speaker 02

  It was like when, when a Catholic guy brings his, uh, heathen friend to church. It's like, now you gotta kneel.

• 29:17Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  Now you gotta stand up. You gotta know all the moves.

• 29:19Speaker 00

  You gotta cheer.

• 29:20Speaker 02

  And, uh, yeah, I mean, also Big Jeff looks happy as hell.

• 29:23Speaker 00

  Dude.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  He looks like he's, he's like freed of, of all the baggage that was behind him. Just a complete change of scenery, a complete change of vibes. And the Bears, my question for you, Big Cat, is, uh, have you allowed yourself to have a realistic expectation for this team? Because I have a realistic expectation for this team.

• 29:42Speaker 00

  I, I had a-

• 29:43Speaker 02

  I think it's that, this win was so impressive that like you think back over the last five years, the most impressive standalone wins against really good teams. Um, it would be, this has to be right up there.

• 29:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 29:56Speaker 02

  Uh, and it, since it's a road game, I would think back to that, uh, the Christmas Day games when it was the Ravens, uh, just butt fucking the Texans.

• 30:05Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  And then I think also the Chiefs fucked up the Steelers that day.

• 30:09Speaker 00

  I can't-

• 30:09Speaker 02

  But like out, this is a Super Bowl champion with a, uh, defensive genius head coach. And what the Bears did was went into their house, which is the hardest place to play, especially at night, and beat them not only offensively, but beat them defensively and also fucked them up on special teams.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, uh, I, before the game, when we were in the cave, I said that I, before the game started, I said, I think the Bears are a Super Bowl contending team. And I said, I said all this before we even had a snap because I said, I, I predicted the game that the Bears were going to win 28-24. I was off. I was, I underrated the Bears offense and, and underrated the Bears defense. It was 34-17. I said, if we win this game and do it convincingly, I think they can, they can, and like, I, yeah, I think they'll like, are going to be in the Super Bowl. I think they're a Super Bowl team. Obviously, anything can happen, but they are, there's no team that scares me in the NFL right now. There isn't. Like I, yes, anything can happen in one game. Like you could just have games where shit doesn't go your way.

• 31:12Speaker 00

  But I think the Bears have everything. The secondary is the only thing where it's like, yes, this is still a problem. I think we had three times where there was a penalty and we all were like, oh, where's the penalty? And then it would just show a Bears cornerback literally yanking a, a Seattle Seahawks wide receiver to the ground. It's like, oh, yep, that's a penalty. But yeah, I don't know. They have everything. Like Jeffrey Simmons has made this defense a nasty, intimidating unit. And the offense is, I'll take this offense versus anyone. Like I, they, they went into Seattle and they had a 17 play drive to start the game.

• 31:47Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 31:47Speaker 00

  It was right down their throat. And Hank, I know you're disappointed because Caleb Williams did look good and you were expecting him to look bad because you, you kind of said like, hey, yeah, we'll see how he looks against the Seahawks defense.

• 31:58Speaker 02

  He looked great.

• 31:59Speaker 00

  He's the only, only quarterback to have over 200 yards against the Seahawks defense this year.

• 32:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, Drake May struggled, Patrick Mahomes struggled.

• 32:07Speaker 00

  Bone it.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  Caleb Williams looked incredible. The way that they're just like Ben Johnson is able to just get wide receivers open 20 yards in the middle of the field on every play. It feels like it's, it's, it's unbelievable to watch.

• 32:19Speaker 00

  And when they're not, Caleb Williams make a, uh, like a hero play, that play where he almost got taken down and like basically jumped out of the sack and then found Roma Dunze down the field and that, the, the third, the, the third and eight, that basically sealed the game because it did get a little hairy there for a second when it was like, well, I, I think we were up, uh, 10 and Colson Loveland fumbled. Seahawks score, it's a three-point game. It's like, gotta answer now. Third and eight. And that Cleef Raymond, uh, screen where Darnell Wright is just running free and, and Cleef Raymond finds that tunnel and goes all the way down to the five. Like that was incredible.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  Hmm. I also thought that that goal line play where Caleb, uh, rushed back to the line of scrimmage and everybody on the line of scrimmage.

• 33:04Speaker 00

  All the offensive linemen were saying, hurry up.

• 33:06Speaker 02

  Everybody was doing the same thing at the same time. And then they ran a variation and the, they suckered the linebackers to come up to stop the run. Caleb boots out to the right, easy touchdown pass. That is, um, Ben Johnson just out coached Mike McDonald.

• 33:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 33:21Speaker 02

  That's, that's all that is. And it was, it was awesome to watch. Like that type of shit, that's a really, really well put together, well coached team. And I do think you should, you should at this point think Super Bowl or bust.

• 33:32Speaker 00

  You have to.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  But if you're a Packers fan listening to this, do the Packers have any argument to be like, hey, don't forget about us because we just beat the shit out of you?

• 33:41Speaker 00

  Well, it's Tyson Bajin.

• 33:42Speaker 02

  It's Tyson Bajin, true.

• 33:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, and listen, the NFC North is the, the, I think the Bears are a Super Bowl contending team. I think they can win the Super Bowl this year. 100%. The next step is you gotta win in the division because we haven't won in the division. We're 0-2 in the division and the division's a gauntlet. And you gotta go to like, the Lions on Thanksgiving is going to be a really, really tough game. The schedule is still tough. It's not like I'm sitting here being like, the Bears are going to win every game for the rest of the season, but I, I don't see a game that we can't win. You know what I mean? Like that's the thing, that's where it's changed. Now that the defense, now that Jeffrey Simmons is on the team, there's no game where I'm like, this team is going to have their way with us. I think we're going to be in every single game.

• 34:24Speaker 00

  And I have so much trust in Caleb Williams now. I mean, he's a top five quarterback in the NFL. And I don't, I, I know this is going to sound crazy and it's obviously very biased, but I wouldn't trade him for any quarterback right now.

• 34:36Speaker 02

  No, uh, Gray Zabel was in hell last night.

• 34:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:39Speaker 02

  Gray Zabel was fucked up.

• 34:41Speaker 05

  No, I was going to say, I don't, I don't, I don't root against Caleb Williams. I think, you know, rooting against a quarterback just because like you guys had quarterbacks drafted in the same class is like a salty, salty bitch move. I'm happy for you and I'm, I'm happy for, for Bears fans and in the city of Chicago.

• 34:55Speaker 00

  Would you, would you agree that Caleb Williams is a top five quarterback?

• 34:58Speaker 05

  Yes.

• 34:58Speaker 00

  He is playing out of this world.

• 35:00Speaker 05

  He's got a cannon for an arm. He doesn't, he can't like, he gets out of sacks every single game.

• 35:06Speaker 00

  He doesn't?

• 35:06Speaker 05

  And he commands the offense. He's a good leader. Like you see him on the sidelines getting, getting him one fired up.

• 35:10Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 35:10Speaker 05

  He, he, he's a great quarterback. There's, there's nothing else you can really say. He's got a fucking rocket ship arm.

• 35:16Speaker 00

  Absolutely insane arm. He also, uh, he doesn't turn the ball over. So he, he had, he broke the record last night.

• 35:23Speaker 05

  Tried last night a couple of times. There was a couple of tip, tip balls.

• 35:26Speaker 00

  Tip ball, yeah. There, so he, he broke the record last night. I think it's 35 games, 35 straight games where he's thrown for 200 yards. And, uh, here it is. Caleb Williams breaks the all-time NFL record, uh, with 35, 36 straight games with at least 20 pass attempts. No more than one interception. Aaron Rodgers had it at 35. That's pretty crazy.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:51Speaker 00

  And he just, it, you could, and you know what the craziest part about it all? I still think he has like a level to go up. Like I, I really do. I think he just keeps getting better and better.

• 36:00Speaker 02

  He was so good that Troy Aikman didn't even have anything bad to say about him.

• 36:03Speaker 00

  Troy Aikman was sad.

• 36:04Speaker 02

  Had to compliment him.

• 36:05Speaker 00

  I think we need a new rule. You know how we have the analytics pop up on the screen being like, go for it or punt? We need to have that same pop up after an announcer says, ooh, I would punt here. And then the team scores a touchdown. Because that fourth and inches.

• 36:19Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:20Speaker 00

  At the 50 yard line, when he like, watch one Ben Johnson game, dude.

• 36:24Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 36:24Speaker 00

  First drive, he's like, ah, I would punt here. Then we scored. So we need a graphic that says Troy said punt and they got seven points.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  Troy's also feeling a little bit salty right from the get-go. You could see all over his face. He's, uh, Troy's not having a lot of fun up in the booth right now. We can, we can put it that way.

• 36:40Speaker 05

  Well, he's just here so he doesn't get fined.

• 36:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 36:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 36:42Speaker 00

  Do you agree with my statement, PFT? Caleb Williams is top five quarterback right now?

• 36:45Speaker 02

  I would have to go through the list, but yeah, that sounds right. It sounds right to me. I don't think that you can really argue that.

• 36:51Speaker 00

  He's just been, I mean, he's played, I mean, four games and he started and finished.

• 36:55Speaker 02

  Josh Allen, uh, I would put him one. Joe Burrow, I would put him top five. Uh, Patrick Mahomes, you have to keep him in the top five as well. Uh, who else is having a, a big season right now? Uh, I think that's right where Caleb Williams falls. I would put him like right around four, maybe.

• 37:10Speaker 00

  I'd put him ahead of Patrick Mahomes right now.

• 37:13Speaker 05

  What about five? You got-

• 37:14Speaker 00

  Who's your top five?

• 37:16Speaker 02

  Top five.

• 37:17Speaker 00

  We don't, we don't.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  We don't do five out of respect.

• 37:21Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, it's probably, probably Jared Goff.

• 37:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Jared's like, Jared's having a great season, too.

• 37:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, he is, he is.

• 37:28Speaker 02

  Hey, big guy. Hey, congratulations on, on joining the club.

• 37:31Speaker 00

  What's the club?

• 37:31Speaker 02

  Beat the Seahawks.

• 37:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, true. Yeah, true. That's a good club.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Great club to be in. They're really good defense.

• 37:37Speaker 00

  They're really good defense.

• 37:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, so have good, good quarterback play to beat them.

• 37:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, really good quarterback play to beat them.

• 37:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:43Speaker 00

  And, and so the Seahawks, I was talking about them real quick. I, I still think they're a very good team. I do think they need probably another weapon. I was surprised a little bit. I, do you, do you guys get the feeling? Because I, I think this happens with Sam Darnold, even though he's won a, a Super Bowl and he's good. You could still have Sam Darnold games where you can almost tell right away, like, ooh, he's not feeling it. Like the, the pressure's coming and he's not seeing it. It felt like it was one of those games for him last night where it's like, he doesn't, he doesn't feel comfortable at all. And I don't know why the Seahawks, and this is maybe very reductive and stupid, and someone who watches the tape can be like, this is why you idiot.

• 38:24Speaker 00

  I don't know why they didn't just be like, hey, let's just throw the ball at JSN 15 times tonight, even when he's covered and, and plays will happen because we couldn't guard him.

• 38:33Speaker 02

  This year, the, the Seahawks offense is pretty much like, um, Sam Darnold is going to get abused. And then will your defense be able to keep it close enough so that when he hits the JSN button on the bailout plays? That, that will be enough to win the game. If JSN has two touchdowns and 150 yards, is that going to be enough? To win the football game, filling in the rest of the cracks with field goals? And last night, their defense was not nearly good enough to do that. And, uh, it didn't work for them. But yeah, it does seem like that's the only real option there. A G. Barner's a good player, but yeah, I would say at the, the Seahawks, they definitely need to add a piece.

• 39:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  I think they probably will be looking at a piece.

• 39:10Speaker 00

  Well, that was.

• 39:11Speaker 02

  They, they, they look, they don't look, uh, as intimidating as they did at least at the start of the year.

• 39:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:17Speaker 02

  Um, there's something that's a little bit off with them.

• 39:19Speaker 00

  That was the other takeaway from last night is like, I do think that the Bears' performance. I don't want to say put the NFC on notice, but I, I feel like some of the other NFC teams, there are some really good NFC teams. Again, this is just because I think the Bears are a Super Bowl contender, doesn't mean it's going to be easy or that they can't lose in the playoffs. Or there's other teams that are really good. But do you think the Vikings, the Packers, the Seahawks, uh, the Niners, they're like, all right, we gotta maybe ante up and, and fill another hole because of what the Bears did with their defensive hole?

• 39:53Speaker 02

  I do, because I think that the Bears right now, at the start of the season and like, leading up to the trade deadline, they probably weren't regarded as a team that you have to prepare specifically to compete with and beat.

• 40:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  It would, it, they were looked at as being like another good team in the NFC.

• 40:07Speaker 00

  They're a shootout team. Like, hey, if we can, if we could have a shootout, their defense is not good.

• 40:11Speaker 02

  Now, if you're a contender in the NFC, you are thinking about that Bears defense and you're thinking about what they do. And that is impacting your decision making. Yes. I think, I think that you should have, you should have the opinion, and this is going to be great for listeners. You should have the opinion, Super Bowl or bust. Like the, the team, the team is good enough, the coaching staff is good enough where you will, you should be disappointed if this team doesn't win a Super Bowl.

• 40:35Speaker 00

  So the, that, I, I disagree with the, or bust part because of how young Caleb is and Ben Johnson. So it's not like an all in, we have a lot of, uh, money coming off the cap next year. Like it's not an all in. Like this is the end of the line. We have to do everything. Super Bowl, yes, but the, or bust part, it's not like next year it's bust. Do you know what I mean? Like there's a ton of young guys and the way they bit Ryan Poles, who deserves a ton of credit for, for, like, the point is to win championships. I know he said the, he made the joke about fuck your picks. The point is to win championships. He went all in with, with Jeffrey Simmons. I love the move because you're trying to win a Super Bowl.

• 41:16Speaker 00

  But I don't think it's like, next year's not going to be like, oh, everything's changing and everyone's gone.

• 41:21Speaker 02

  It's tough league.

• 41:22Speaker 00

  It is tough league. No, listen, we, listen, I, I, I woke up this morning also thinking about like, with Lamar going on IR. There's a chance Ravens fans are thinking, hey, 2023 was our shot.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 41:33Speaker 00

  And that was it.

• 41:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, the window might.

• 41:34Speaker 00

  About Lions.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  Window might be done.

• 41:36Speaker 00

  Dan Campbell, what does it say? Shane, tell us what you read, because you, you spend a lot of time on the cap stuff.

• 41:41Speaker 05

  It's looking like negative cap space next year.

• 41:43Speaker 00

  Oh, that's not good.

• 41:44Speaker 02

  See, that's what I'm saying. Like, nothing, nothing's permanent in this league. You can be, and, and I would agree, by the way. I'm not disagreeing that the Bears are set up well because I think they're set up exceptionally well, more so than just about any team that's currently contending. I think that they do have, which should be a big window, but you can't count on that. I'm just saying.

• 42:01Speaker 00

  But the bust thing is, it makes it seem like it's like the end of the line. Like you gotta go, like the Rams are Super Bowl or bust. Cause Matthew Stafford might not play football next year.

• 42:10Speaker 02

  I'm just, it's, it's okay to believe. This is, this team looks like they should win.

• 42:13Speaker 00

  I'm a hundred percent believing we're arguing semantics right now. I'm saying the bust word makes no sense to me because I think that they're going to be competitive for a long runway. That also, I mean, I, I think I'm probably thinking about all the different cuts and guys that it could come off.

• 42:28Speaker 05

  After next year, it says 2028, 196 million cap. So it looks like a little bunch of people off the books. Everybody off.

• 42:34Speaker 00

  Okay. But yeah, I did, the, the bust part is the only thing I disagree with. I do think they should be like, they're a full blown Super Bowl contender. Again, no team scares me.

• 42:44Speaker 05

  How, how many, like, what, what's the path to home field? How many games?

• 42:49Speaker 00

  We gotta start winning in the division. That's really, that, that's it. You gotta win in the division. We're 0-2 in the division right now. Have to win your division games.

• 42:56Speaker 02

  What's the next game? Is that Thanksgiving?

• 42:57Speaker 00

  Thanksgiving Lions, and then we have Christmas Packers. Then we finish the season, week 17 and 18 with a game.

• 43:04Speaker 05

  That's a gauntlet finish.

• 43:06Speaker 00

  Lions at home, Vikings on the road. Yeah, no, there's some really, we play the Jaguars. Yeah, after Thanksgiving.

• 43:12Speaker 05

  Bills, Packers, Lions, Vikings is.

• 43:14Speaker 00

  Well, look at before that, too. It's Lions, Jaguars, you get one week with the Dolphins and then it's, it's a tough schedule. It's a tough league, man.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  Very tough league.

• 43:23Speaker 00

  It's tough league.

• 43:23Speaker 05

  Have you looked into sweets at the Super Bowl yet? Cause I've heard some rumblings around this office.

• 43:28Speaker 00

  I have not looked into them, other than a Google of how much they cost.

• 43:33Speaker 02

  I think that counts as looking into them.

• 43:34Speaker 05

  Yeah, for sure.

• 43:35Speaker 00

  Yeah, but they don't have them on tick pick yet.

• 43:38Speaker 02

  Right.

• 43:38Speaker 00

  But that's, but you did. I haven't put them in my cart.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  The reason that you know that they're not on tick pick is because you looked into them.

• 43:44Speaker 00

  Look, you gotta plan. You gotta always plan.

• 43:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, no matter what. Like me, I do that every year.

• 43:48Speaker 00

  Ben Johnson's planning. Super Bowl sweats. Nice job.

• 43:53Speaker 00

  It's like 70, 700.

• 43:54Speaker 05

  He did spell sweets, S W E E T S, and it pulled up desserts.

• 44:02Speaker 02

  I love that.

• 44:04Speaker 00

  But yeah, it was, uh, hell of a night.

• 44:05Speaker 02

  A couple of things, a couple of like little extra things from that game last night. One, did you guys see the flyover before the game?

• 44:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. So what happened with the helicopter?

• 44:12Speaker 02

  I think there were Black Hawk helicopters. There were like four of them and they flew right over the stadium, right over the, the Hawks nest.

• 44:18Speaker 05

  And fireworks.

• 44:20Speaker 02

  They shot fireworks like right into the dick of the helicopter, the last one.

• 44:24Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 44:25Speaker 02

  That could have been really, really bad.

• 44:26Speaker 00

  Really bad.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  That was like, that could have been a, a flying guillotine that just landed in the Hawks nest.

• 44:31Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 44:31Speaker 02

  That was weird. Uh, it reminded that, that flyover that they had in South Africa. Remember Hank? You're, you're cool thrown?

• 44:38Speaker 05

  Yep.

• 44:39Speaker 02

  At the rugby game?

• 44:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, cause you're a big aviation guy.

• 44:41Speaker 02

  And rugby guy. Yeah, double threat. Uh, but yeah, this thing like, it did look like they were trying to shoot down that helicopter, which would have been, that would have been a, just disaster if that happened. Uh, and then secondly, I think it's, it's past time for, uh, NFL fans and NFL teams to have an honest discussion about downing punts. That first punt that the Seahawks had was so, was so fucking stupid.

• 45:06Speaker 00

  Really dumb.

• 45:07Speaker 02

  What the guy did, and it happens all the time in the NFL.

• 45:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:10Speaker 02

  Where you have a guy that's like running towards the goal line with all the momentum and guys don't understand to not, well, this guy didn't understand to not slide into the end zone. You get a lot of guys that like run parallel across the goal line with their feet on the goal line.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 45:25Speaker 02

  It seems like the stupidest thing ever that should be, we should never see stuff like that happen.

• 45:29Speaker 00

  That first one, he didn't even have to touch it. It was coming backwards.

• 45:32Speaker 02

  He didn't. I.

• 45:33Speaker 00

  We also had, yeah, the, the, probably the longest block punt ever.

• 45:36Speaker 02

  We had the longest block punt. That kind of kicked ass. Uh, but when it comes to downing punts, do we, do we keep stats for down punts like?

• 45:43Speaker 00

  I'm sure someone has.

• 45:44Speaker 02

  Do special teams guys get credit for downing a punt?

• 45:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I guarantee someone has them, right?

• 45:50Speaker 02

  Because that.

• 45:50Speaker 00

  Cause how do you, yeah, like there's special teams awards, right?

• 45:54Speaker 02

  That's the only explanation I can think of of why this guy came sliding in out of nowhere. Cause he's, he's trying to fill up his stat sheet.

• 46:00Speaker 00

  Oh, there we go.

• 46:01Speaker 02

  They do keep them.

• 46:01Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 46:04Speaker 00

  Austin McNamara, was that 2025? Also shout out Deandre Swift. That was a old school like he it. I think his longest run was seven yards. I think he what was his final stat line? I think it was like 27 carries for 70 yards, but he three touchdowns. You can't run on the Seahawks. You can't, but he just kept on running as hard as fuck. My guy isn't even back. Yeah, he had 27 carries for 69 yards, three touchdowns. That's he is sore. Yeah, that's a sore guy today. The Bears, by the way, do you? What do you think about this move? They stayed in Seattle last night.

• 46:39Speaker 02

  To party?

• 46:40Speaker 00

  No, to to.

• 46:41Speaker 02

  Throw some fish around?

• 46:42Speaker 00

  No, they they. The one thing that makes me scary, and well, when we do the preview, we could talk about it, but the one thing that makes me a little scared about this upcoming game against the Bucks. So the Bears stayed in Seattle to like get rest and actually sleep, and then came back on Tuesday. The only other time they did it was after the Sunday night football game against the Niners last year, stayed an extra day, came back and then dropped a dud at home against the Lions.

• 47:09Speaker 02

  I don't. I don't hate it. It sounds like you'd probably get more sleep that way.

• 47:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:13Speaker 02

  So I don't.

• 47:14Speaker 00

  And probably like, like recovery and yeah.

• 47:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, I don't. I don't hate that move at all. Actually, I know. Maybe it didn't work out the last time, but um.

• 47:20Speaker 00

  Cause you'd have to think like if they left right after the game, they would probably what they would probably get home at what like seven in the morning?

• 47:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, like six, seven.

• 47:29Speaker 00

  So no sleep. Yeah, rather get the sleep and then fly back during the day, but it does burn a day of whatever you can do. So.

• 47:36Speaker 02

  Cause some guys can't sleep on airplanes.

• 47:37Speaker 00

  What is the? What's the spread? Six? Yeah, I mean, I'm not overlooking the Bucks. Zach and I were doing a little Bucks Bears talk. It basically comes out. I think the Bucks defense, I respect the hell out of them. I respect the hell out of the Bucks offensive line. It's can the Bucks complete passes?

• 47:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  If they do, then I'll then it could be a game.

• 47:55Speaker 02

  Do you think that the Bears went to the team hotel and like worked on anything related to the game plan right after that game was over?

• 48:01Speaker 00

  Ben Johnson 100% did.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  Do you think the team had any meetings afterwards?

• 48:05Speaker 00

  But Ben Johnson for sure did.

• 48:07Speaker 02

  I read that after Sunday night, Jaden went to the team facility and he worked out until 3:30.

• 48:13Speaker 00

  Oh, wow.

• 48:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 48:16Speaker 00

  What type of workout?

• 48:17Speaker 02

  I don't know. I don't know what you do.

• 48:18Speaker 00

  Does that mean he didn't play hard enough?

• 48:20Speaker 02

  I don't know. May. Yes.

• 48:21Speaker 00

  Still had gas in the tank?

• 48:22Speaker 02

  He was like, he was like, that first quarter sucked. I still got something left over. My mom's got the key to the building. We can get in.

• 48:28Speaker 00

  It does got to kind of be cool to be in the building by yourself, just being able to.

• 48:34Speaker 05

  Well, maybe he took like a big nap because it was a night game. So he took like a long.

• 48:38Speaker 00

  He's wired?

• 48:39Speaker 05

  Took like a well, no, he like took a nap, slept for like six hours during the day. And then it's like, yeah, he's not going to be able to sleep anyway. So you might as well

• 48:48Speaker 05

  work out, I guess.

• 48:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. I don't know. Three going going back to the facility after a game and working out that I don't know that I'd necessarily love that.

• 48:57Speaker 00

  But I always.

• 48:57Speaker 05

  How far away is the is the facility not like at the stadium?

• 49:00Speaker 02

  No, no. So that's the thing in DC. It's like the facility is in Ashburn, Virginia. The stadium is in Landover, Maryland.

• 49:07Speaker 00

  But is it close to his house?

• 49:09Speaker 02

  I assume he probably lives near Ashburn.

• 49:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:11Speaker 02

  So the facility is probably next to his house, but still that's like, I would say hour drive back from the stadium on on Sunday, like counting for traffic.

• 49:21Speaker 00

  The one thing I'll say about like, one of the coolest underrated parts about being a professional athlete is is probably that you can just go to your facility at any time and make someone work out with you.

• 49:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:33Speaker 00

  Like you could just say, if you're a NBA player, like, hey, meet me at the gym. I want you to rebound for me for the next hour. Meet me at the meet me in Ashburn. I want you to to catch a bunch of passes. I'm gonna like you just go play catch.

• 49:48Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, we could technically do that with Zach.

• 49:50Speaker 00

  We should.

• 49:51Speaker 02

  Anytime.

• 49:52Speaker 05

  Anytime. Just let me know.

• 49:52Speaker 02

  Right, Zach?

• 49:53Speaker 05

  I'm there.

• 49:54Speaker 00

  I had a stat for you guys. I wanted to throw out there. There's just a kind of a hmm stat. And it's more something to be thinking about because we're halfway through the season. This is where it's like, you kind of know where everyone is. You know, you know what teams are good, what teams are bad. So you try to look for pockets where you can buy and sell different teams. And the Chiefs, so the Chiefs just lost two in a row. I do not think the sky is falling, but I do think the Chiefs are maybe a little overrated. The Chiefs have the Jets, Falcons and Cardinals.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 50:28Speaker 00

  Coming up. Then after that, so there's three games that seem winnable. Then after that they have Bills, Rams, Bengals, 49ers. That's five games that are very difficult. The Chiefs, this stat came across my desk.

• 50:43Speaker 02

  Bills, Rams, Bengals, Patriots, 49ers.

• 50:45Speaker 00

  Oh, Patriots, 49ers. Okay, so that's. Oh, yeah. So I missed that. Bills, Rams, Bengals, Patriots, 49ers. That's.

• 50:50Speaker 02

  Tough stretch.

• 50:51Speaker 00

  Tough stretch. So the next three games look very winnable, right? Uh, I got where I where I I thought I bookmarked the stat. I think it is Patrick Mahomes is two and eight against teams over 500 in his last 10. Something to just say, hmm, is that a hmm for you guys?

• 51:12Speaker 02

  That is. That is somewhat of a hmm.

• 51:14Speaker 00

  Mahomes is two and eight in his last 10 games against teams with a winning record. He has thrown 11 touchdowns and 10 interceptions in those games with a 78.9 passer rating. Huh?

• 51:25Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 51:25Speaker 00

  Hank? Huh?

• 51:27Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 51:28Speaker 00

  I think they're going to win the next three games. So that would put them at, what would their record be? Would they be nine and two, eight and two? And then maybe it's a sell high on them?

• 51:38Speaker 02

  I have a I have an interesting stat right here. If we're doing interesting stats.

• 51:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, let's go.

• 51:43Speaker 02

  This one also involves Patrick Mahomes. This is from an account. I think this is real stat, even though the account is called bot. Since week one of 2022, Josh Allen's average rushing touchdowns.

• 51:56Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Are longer than Patrick Mahomes average passing touchdowns.

• 52:00Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 52:00Speaker 02

  Allen's average rushing touchdowns, 5.74 yards. Mahomes average passing touchdowns, 5.38 yards.

• 52:08Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  That's interesting. That's more of a Josh Allen stat. Like, holy shit. This guy scores a lot of rushing touchdowns and it and it's awesome. It's also a stat.

• 52:17Speaker 05

  That's.

• 52:18Speaker 02

  That the Chiefs.

• 52:18Speaker 05

  That's hard to believe.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  That the Chiefs don't. Well, this is, this is post, I guess, maybe at the end of Tyreek.

• 52:26Speaker 02

  So they haven't had a big deep threat.

• 52:30Speaker 05

  But like 10 yard, 20 yard, an average of five yards is so small for passing touchdowns.

• 52:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's, I mean, they have no wide receivers right now. I'm just, I'm just thinking out loud that like the Chiefs, I know that I they've given, they've earned the right for us not to be like, oh, they're frauds.

• 52:54Speaker 02

  Hmm.

• 52:56Speaker 00

  But.

• 52:57Speaker 02

  I'm sorry, just to clarify.

• 52:58Speaker 00

  Jason?

• 52:59Speaker 02

  Just to clarify, that's that's air yards.

• 53:02Speaker 00

  Air yards.

• 53:02Speaker 02

  On Mahomes' throws.

• 53:03Speaker 05

  Okay.

• 53:04Speaker 00

  So so. So yeah, like the touchdown to Emmett.

• 53:07Speaker 05

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That makes sense. That makes sense.

• 53:09Speaker 00

  That was a, that was a.

• 53:12Speaker 05

  He was a checked out game.

• 53:13Speaker 00

  Like a 10 yard pass that went for 70 in the box score.

• 53:16Speaker 02

  Right. Like a swing pass.

• 53:17Speaker 05

  Yes, yes, yes. Check down, check down.

• 53:21Speaker 00

  Just something to think about, Hank. Hmm.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  Hmm. Do we have? Hmm. Is it Super Bowl or bust for you, Hank?

• 53:29Speaker 05

  Fuck no.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  Oh, okay.

• 53:31Speaker 05

  We're young.

• 53:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, I think the young part is it's kind of. Yeah.

• 53:35Speaker 05

  Although we're like old.

• 53:37Speaker 02

  Oh, all right.

• 53:37Speaker 05

  Our roster is old.

• 53:38Speaker 00

  So wait, which one?

• 53:39Speaker 05

  The the front office is trying to figure out how to because we don't have a lot of draft capital, how to through trades, whatever, get a little bit of a younger roster.

• 53:49Speaker 00

  I think you have to be. I think you have to be old to be or bust. I think it's like the the Rams, the Niners.

• 53:56Speaker 05

  Where it counts.

• 53:57Speaker 00

  The Bills might be just because you don't, you know, they've been knocking at the door.

• 54:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:01Speaker 00

  Like if you're knocking at the door for like almost a decade and you haven't done it, then you get into that territory. If you're just starting.

• 54:09Speaker 05

  The Niners.

• 54:10Speaker 00

  I think I said the Niners. Yeah.

• 54:12Speaker 02

  I think the Lions.

• 54:14Speaker 00

  Ah.

• 54:15Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 54:16Speaker 02

  I think the Lions have to be because they've had, they've had.

• 54:19Speaker 00

  I don't know if I'd go that far.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  They've missed the window so far.

• 54:21Speaker 05

  They can't have Ben Johnson go farther than than them this year.

• 54:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:26Speaker 05

  Or else it's or bust. I know. That's what I'm saying. Like if that happens two years in a row, it's or bust.

• 54:33Speaker 00

  I've been thinking more about the Vikings, too. They really got to trade for a quarterback. They have a defense that is so good.

• 54:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:41Speaker 00

  And I, again, I, we talked, we talked, touched on it briefly, but like, I think we need to put out like an amber alert being like, hey, let's never, let's stop calling Kevin O'Connell like a QB whisperer and an offensive guru. Cause he just, you can't do it for the last two years.

• 54:58Speaker 02

  Last two years have been bad.

• 54:58Speaker 00

  You just can't say that with how J.J. McCarthy's situation went down and how this year has gone down offensively. I think he gets stripped of his offensive guru title. You just can't have it.

• 55:09Speaker 02

  There's that. And there's also the fact that Sam Darnold, letting him get away.

• 55:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 55:14Speaker 02

  Like that means that maybe like, I know that was a little bit on the general manager who missed up to two weeks on paternity leave. But it has to be somewhat on Kevin O'Connell too, for not standing up and be like, hey, I want this guy. We can win with this guy.

• 55:26Speaker 00

  Yeah, I have some friends that are Vikings fans. They texted me on Monday. They're like, you didn't go hard enough at Kevin O'Connell because they're they're frustrated because they see the defense.

• 55:34Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 55:34Speaker 00

  That's got to be very frustrating.

• 55:35Speaker 02

  I heard, I did hear that Glenn is working very hard on fixing the Vikings offense. Very hard.

• 55:42Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:42Speaker 02

  And I've, I've heard that he might have some very fresh ideas.

• 55:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 55:47Speaker 02

  Just something to keep your eye on.

• 55:49Speaker 00

  I like that.

• 55:49Speaker 02

  Watch this. Watch this space for more.

• 55:51Speaker 00

  So Glenn's not going to be talking about Drake May this week.

• 55:53Speaker 02

  Glenn doesn't. That's a big misconception is Glenn doesn't always talk about Drake May.

• 55:57Speaker 00

  That's true. Sometimes he talks about Hank's golf game.

• 55:59Speaker 02

  He does. That's true. He dabbles in golf and he also roasted Jaden Daniels every time. So like he Glenn calls him as he sees him. That's just a fact. And also I know he's hard at work on that that album that's coming out.

• 56:10Speaker 00

  Listen, I am.

• 56:11Speaker 02

  I just, I I heard some behind the scenes stuff.

• 56:13Speaker 05

  Maybe maybe an internet invitation will break down.

• 56:16Speaker 02

  He just got the feature back for the very special guest artist on the album. And it is, it's something special.

• 56:24Speaker 00

  I am a glutton.

• 56:25Speaker 05

  Arian Foster?

• 56:26Speaker 02

  No, no, way bigger than Arian Foster.

• 56:31Speaker 00

  I'm a glutton until the day I die. If there's, if there's 10 gluttons on earth, I'm one of them. There's one. I'm one of them. If there's zero, I'm dead.

• 56:40Speaker 02

  It's man.

• 56:43Speaker 02

  Man feature.

• 56:45Speaker 00

  A man feature. What do you know about that Hank?

• 56:48Speaker 05

  Not much.

• 56:48Speaker 00

  It's a man.

• 56:49Speaker 02

  No, you wouldn't.

• 56:51Speaker 00

  I feel like you don't like that I called him Big Jeff.

• 56:55Speaker 05

  No, I just wasn't sure where that came from.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  When I hear Big Jeff, I, I, I don't know why. I was just thinking Saturday.

• 57:00Speaker 00

  Well, part of it is that the big mic that Steven Shea does has been stuck in my head. So now I've just converted to Big Jeff.

• 57:07Speaker 02

  Big Jeff.

• 57:08Speaker 00

  Dude, there's nothing like pressure up the middle.

• 57:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 57:15Speaker 00

  You know what I'm saying Hank?

• 57:16Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 57:16Speaker 00

  Just pressure up the middle. When you're just sitting in a QB's lap, nowhere to go. They got nowhere to go.

• 57:22Speaker 02

  By the way, I also really liked that, that design on the trick play that Ben Johnson had last night where Caleb started like in the slot.

• 57:29Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 57:30Speaker 02

  And then came back, took the pitch back, just completely designed to make sure that he has a clean pocket to throw from on that play. Uh, while also like pulling the linebackers up. That's a great play. I don't know why more teams don't run that. Seems like that should work just about every time. He just does, he, he just completely.

• 57:49Speaker 02

  Ben Johnson pulled his testicles out and he made Mike McDonald wear them like a ski mask last night. It was, it was that much of a beat down where now I almost have to put the Amber Alert out and put his, uh, defensive guru.

• 58:04Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 58:04Speaker 02

  Tag like on, it's on the watch list.

• 58:06Speaker 00

  Oh shit.

• 58:07Speaker 02

  A defensive guru does not get emasculated like that.

• 58:12Speaker 00

  In his own house.

• 58:12Speaker 02

  In his own house.

• 58:13Speaker 00

  In his own house.

• 58:15Speaker 02

  I'm sure he'll figure out a way to bounce back from the Seahawks will be great for the rest of the season, but.

• 58:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:19Speaker 02

  Last night was just, uh, as, as good of a road win.

• 58:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 58:23Speaker 02

  In a standalone spot that I can remember seeing in like five years.

• 58:26Speaker 00

  And now the, the NFC like wildcard, it's, it's base or the NFC playoff picture. It's basically the NFC East, the NFC South winners, and then there are seven teams for five spots. It's the entire NFC, uh, North and then the, the Niners, Seahawks and Rams. And like, there's gonna be a good team, football team that's left out. It's, it's gonna be, it's.

• 58:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. I think it's gonna be the Rams. I think it's gotta be the Rams at this point.

• 58:56Speaker 00

  But there's gonna be two good football teams that's left out.

• 58:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:58Speaker 00

  There's set, there's five spots for seven teams.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 59:02Speaker 00

  If you, if you want to count all the NFC North and then those three NFC West teams. We'll see. That's why they play the games. Uh, okay. Should we do hot seat, cool throne and then get to our awesome interview with Sal Frelick? Hot seat, cool throne. By the way, Max out. Uh, well, I guess he might've been here for the Zoom portion of the show, but he's sick. Zach has gotten the whole podcast sick. Yeah. So.

• 59:25Speaker 02

  I thought I played, I thought I played it well.

• 59:27Speaker 00

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• 1:01:18Speaker 05

  Uh, my hot seat's LeBron.

• 1:01:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's I added to.

• 1:01:20Speaker 05

  Alcoholic.

• 1:01:21Speaker 02

  La wine.

• 1:01:22Speaker 05

  Uh, booze bag. He was in the middle of the game ripping full, full glasses of wine. Uh, stealing too. He's a thief.

• 1:01:31Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:01:32Speaker 05

  Thief and an alcoholic.

• 1:01:33Speaker 02

  And didn't, didn't receive consent.

• 1:01:35Speaker 05

  Yeah. He's a, he's a thief. He's an alcoholic. He went into the stands.

• 1:01:39Speaker 00

  COVID?

• 1:01:39Speaker 05

  He probably had, he had the shakes so bad on the sidelines. He, he spotted someone drinking wine. He ran to them, took the wine out of their hands.

• 1:01:47Speaker 02

  Super spreader event.

• 1:01:48Speaker 05

  Chugged it.

• 1:01:48Speaker 02

  It was that, so that was bad. And then also, I don't know if you saw Jason Tatum, what he did, also a super spreader. He was leaving the court last night and he smacked over the hand sanitation station. Knocked it on the ground.

• 1:02:00Speaker 00

  Why'd he do that?

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  Cause.

• 1:02:01Speaker 05

  They lost.

• 1:02:01Speaker 02

  Because he wants people to get sick.

• 1:02:03Speaker 00

  Well, who'd they lose to?

• 1:02:05Speaker 05

  The Rockets. Paul George didn't play. Second night of a back to back. Marcus Smart, Marcus Smart, uh, double birded his own, his own fans.

• 1:02:14Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:02:15Speaker 05

  It was, it was, it was, it was one of the weirdest things I've ever seen.

• 1:02:18Speaker 02

  Wait, who was that? That, is that Baylor Sharman that, that picked up?

• 1:02:22Speaker 05

  Cold ass, is it a cold ass white boy?

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:02:24Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:02:25Speaker 02

  Let's see. So Tatum smacks it over Baylor Sharman says, that's not today. We're, we're gonna, I'm here to save lives.

• 1:02:33Speaker 00

  Question. Can I ask a question?

• 1:02:36Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:02:37Speaker 00

  Hank, can I ask you a question?

• 1:02:38Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:02:38Speaker 00

  Uh, because I know that, uh, PFT is a humble guy. He doesn't wanna bring up something just to, it doesn't make sense this conversation. Are you getting nervous about the Washington Wizards looking pretty, I'll say competent?

• 1:02:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, they look, they look decent. I've been watching them. Uh, NBA like, I mean, it's, it's, it's.

• 1:02:58Speaker 02

  I told you they'd, they'd look like halfway.

• 1:03:00Speaker 00

  Are you feeling a little nervous?

• 1:03:02Speaker 05

  The East is stacked. NBA season doesn't really ramp up until after Christmas.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  I agree.

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  But they're looking competent.

• 1:03:10Speaker 05

  They are on the radar.

• 1:03:11Speaker 02

  I agree. If, if, if.

• 1:03:12Speaker 05

  No bet is easy. There's, there's never, there's no such thing as, as a, as a free lock, no sweat bet.

• 1:03:19Speaker 02

  And I, I know.

• 1:03:19Speaker 05

  You, you make a bet, no matter how easy you think it is, you're gonna have to sweat it out a little bit.

• 1:03:26Speaker 02

  That's true.

• 1:03:26Speaker 05

  I'm not there yet, but I'm, it's, I'm monitoring it. They, they, they got, they got a good team. The good news is the East is like.

• 1:03:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:33Speaker 05

  Fucking stacked.

• 1:03:34Speaker 02

  It is good. And you, we can't.

• 1:03:35Speaker 05

  They could get a nine seed.

• 1:03:37Speaker 02

  I don't want to know. Eight.

• 1:03:39Speaker 05

  I know.

• 1:03:39Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:03:40Speaker 05

  Well, like they could be good.

• 1:03:41Speaker 00

  To get an eight, right?

• 1:03:42Speaker 05

  Yeah. They could be, they could be good.

• 1:03:44Speaker 00

  And you can't get an eight through winning the play.

• 1:03:46Speaker 02

  No, have to regular.

• 1:03:47Speaker 05

  End of, end of regular season. They could be competent, look good, win some tough games and still get a nine seed. Cause the East is so stacked.

• 1:03:53Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm not trying to do the, we should be thing with our record. Uh, but I do think that.

• 1:03:58Speaker 00

  Here it comes.

• 1:03:59Speaker 02

  I know. I'm saying, looking forward, there's room to think that we can even improve by figuring out the rotation because our coach Keith has made some questionable rotation decisions and given up massive, massive leads in the fourth quarter of, uh, at least two, I think. Maybe three, but I know definitely two games where we had, uh, 15 or 20 point leads late in the game. And then just completely fucked up the rotation because we're not used to having these guys play together. And then kind of choke those away at the end. I'm not saying that we should have won those games because we didn't, we got beat. Uh, but I say that there's, there is room even for that team to get better. And there's so many fucking hilarious, insult stats for the Wizards that we're going to be going through as the season goes on and we look maybe competent.

• 1:04:45Speaker 02

  Just, here's a couple that I've just picked off.

• 1:04:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:04:48Speaker 02

  Over the last two days.

• 1:04:49Speaker 00

  You weren't even gonna bring it up.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:04:51Speaker 00

  I like.

• 1:04:51Speaker 02

  I wasn't, I wasn't.

• 1:04:52Speaker 00

  I got you.

• 1:04:53Speaker 02

  The Wizards have a winning record past October for the first time since November 28th, 2022.

• 1:04:58Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 1:04:59Speaker 02

  That's a pretty good one right there. Um, the Washington Wizards have reached three wins before December for the first time since 2023. That's.

• 1:05:08Speaker 00

  Before December?

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  Before December.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  Three?

• 1:05:11Speaker 02

  Yes. So for the first time in three years.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  Different.

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:05:14Speaker 00

  That's, it's different.

• 1:05:15Speaker 02

  It's different.

• 1:05:16Speaker 00

  It's different.

• 1:05:16Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, and these stats, you're going to see more of them come out and, and you'll realize just how bad we've been. And I feel completely exonerated for not spending a single emotional scent on these Wizards teams until, until we hired Winger and Dawkins. And now, now I'm back in. Um, they held the Magic to 94 points last night. Washington has now held its opponents to under a hundred points in back-to-back games for the first time since 2022.

• 1:05:44Speaker 00

  Let's go.

• 1:05:45Speaker 02

  So the defense is like, the defense is good. These are all good stats for the Wizards this year, but it also, every single one of them should serve as a reminder for how, how bad they have been.

• 1:05:56Speaker 05

  When's your next trip to the wood?

• 1:05:58Speaker 02

  Uh, don't know. We gave away this Wednesday's tickets to an A W L.

• 1:06:03Speaker 05

  Nice.

• 1:06:03Speaker 02

  Yeah. So it's a guy that's gonna be taking his kid, right Zach?

• 1:06:06Speaker 00

  Oh yeah.

• 1:06:07Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah. He's a eight-time A W O and he's taking his eight-year-old son to the game.

• 1:06:09Speaker 00

  Let's go.

• 1:06:10Speaker 02

  Love that. So, uh, I hope your eight-year-old son can see over the giant assistant coach that's gonna be in front of you.

• 1:06:15Speaker 00

  Patrick Ewing. No, it's not Patrick.

• 1:06:16Speaker 02

  Well, he's also giant, but there's another, like there's a giant French, like six foot or seven foot guy.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  So nerve levels?

• 1:06:25Speaker 05

  Non-existent until Christmas.

• 1:06:26Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:06:27Speaker 02

  I think that's fair.

• 1:06:28Speaker 00

  Just attacking hand sanitizers, not worried about the whiz.

• 1:06:32Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:06:32Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:06:33Speaker 02

  I think that's fair.

• 1:06:34Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right, what's your cool throne?

• 1:06:37Speaker 05

  Um, my cool throne is just football guys.

• 1:06:39Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:06:39Speaker 05

  Just caring about football, you know, we're football guy podcast.

• 1:06:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:06:43Speaker 00

  What's going on?

• 1:06:43Speaker 05

  Football guys, guys.

• 1:06:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:45Speaker 05

  Don't care about the gossipy bullshit nonsense. Uh, and that's like the core of the show. Bill Belichick just kind of, you know, cemented himself as, as an all-time football guy. Once again. He, some more details came about the relationship with him and Jordan and how he was basically like had a, had a, had a fork in the road between like getting more serious, maybe getting engaged and taking the next step of the relationship. But

• 1:07:13Speaker 05

  he needed to be more focused on football and he, he went with football.

• 1:07:16Speaker 00

  Oh, he chose football over Jordan. That had to break him up. Cause that's like, that's a hard, Jordan's our queen.

• 1:07:23Speaker 02

  I do think that Jordan's the type of woman that would say, you know what, Bill, you're right.

• 1:07:28Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  That's your true love and I'll always be playing second fiddle and I understand it and I respect it.

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  And then she comes back and it's like, I'll just, I'll just stay in the background.

• 1:07:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:36Speaker 00

  Like you made the right choice.

• 1:07:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:07:38Speaker 00

  I actually tested you.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  She seems emotionally mature, so she'd probably be like, if you love something, set it free. If it was meant to be, it'll come back one day.

• 1:07:46Speaker 00

  Oh, they have, they're close friends and they're committed to their partnership.

• 1:07:49Speaker 02

  Is he still going to cheerleading events and, and competitions?

• 1:07:52Speaker 00

  I don't know. So wait, Belichick might just be doing no, no nut November.

• 1:07:57Speaker 05

  It's been like a year.

• 1:07:58Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:07:58Speaker 05

  He also snapped at a reporter when, when asked about it.

• 1:08:00Speaker 00

  I also saw in that press conference, the, the meanest thing that Belichick can say about a team is he said that Miami does what they do. And they just kept on doing what they do. Basically saying it's not imaginative. That quote alone makes me love Notre Dame this weekend.

• 1:08:15Speaker 02

  I was thinking the same thing.

• 1:08:17Speaker 00

  They do what they do is such a mean thing.

• 1:08:19Speaker 02

  It seemed like he was saying, we could have stopped them if we had their play, if we had their play, they would have beat the fuck out of us.

• 1:08:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, they didn't, they, they're not, they're not out scheming anyone. They do what they do.

• 1:08:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. You know what? I think, um, the relationship between Bill and Jordan might have just evolved into being strictly physical.

• 1:08:35Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:08:36Speaker 02

  They might, they might be friends with benefits and that's it.

• 1:08:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:08:39Speaker 02

  Like they fuck.

• 1:08:39Speaker 05

  Alpha.

• 1:08:40Speaker 02

  They fuck and then, all right, see you later. I got, I got work early tomorrow.

• 1:08:45Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:08:45Speaker 02

  You gotta go. I think that's kind of what Bill's doing now.

• 1:08:50Speaker 05

  Yeah. As he should.

• 1:08:54Speaker 00

  All right, PFT, hot seat, cool throne?

• 1:08:56Speaker 02

  Um, let's see, hot seat is part of my take geography.

• 1:09:00Speaker 00

  Uh-oh.

• 1:09:01Speaker 02

  We screwed up on Sunday's show.

• 1:09:03Speaker 00

  Uh-oh.

• 1:09:04Speaker 02

  Hand up, we went back and forth a few times about where Jacksonville was playing their game.

• 1:09:08Speaker 00

  Was it Orlando?

• 1:09:09Speaker 02

  No, they were playing in Jacksonville.

• 1:09:10Speaker 00

  Oh, so then why did Jacob, bad job Jacob, he texted us in the middle of that conversation. Saying that it was Orlando. You can't fuck those things up if you're Jacob. He's going to take this very seriously.

• 1:09:21Speaker 02

  I believe.

• 1:09:22Speaker 05

  I wonder where he was when he texted that.

• 1:09:24Speaker 00

  Do you think he was shirt off in the Planet Fitness gym?

• 1:09:26Speaker 02

  It might've been, it might've been, now.

• 1:09:30Speaker 02

  I, I might also.

• 1:09:31Speaker 00

  Get Jacob in here.

• 1:09:32Speaker 02

  I might also be wrong about this right now because Chaps told me that the game was in Jacksonville.

• 1:09:38Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:09:38Speaker 02

  And so maybe Chaps got it wrong.

• 1:09:40Speaker 00

  I thought the stadium looked a little different.

• 1:09:42Speaker 02

  Well, they took out, they've taken out a lot of the seats because they're doing renovations.

• 1:09:45Speaker 04

  The 300 levels are under construction.

• 1:09:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:09:48Speaker 04

  And it was the first game they're playing there and then they're doing like eight games on the road.

• 1:09:53Speaker 00

  Listen, I.

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  So it was in Jacksonville.

• 1:09:55Speaker 00

  I want it very clear, Jacob's not actually in trouble and I, I, I think Jacob does an awesome job and he works very hard. But that is kind of a wild move to send a text to the group because our guys, Shane, Jacob, uh, Colton, Dom, they all are listening to the show live while we're doing it so they can make cuts and, or, or clips and stuff. Uh, so that's a wild move in the middle of us taping.

• 1:10:20Speaker 04

  I'm sorry.

• 1:10:21Speaker 00

  To send us a text message correction on the group thread.

• 1:10:23Speaker 02

  And also Jacob.

• 1:10:24Speaker 00

  And have it be wrong.

• 1:10:25Speaker 02

  You're, you, you went to Gainesville, you went to Florida.

• 1:10:27Speaker 04

  I did. That's why I thought that I deep in my heart, I thought they were playing in Orlando because.

• 1:10:35Speaker 00

  Deep in your heart? What about on Google?

• 1:10:36Speaker 02

  It's hard to argue with deep in your heart.

• 1:10:38Speaker 04

  I, well, I did, I did throw in a quick Google. I said, are the Jackson, are the Jaguars playing in Orlando?

• 1:10:44Speaker 00

  But we should.

• 1:10:44Speaker 04

  And the AI overview said yes.

• 1:10:46Speaker 05

  He doesn't have, isn't, yeah, he doesn't use the AI, he just uses his heart.

• 1:10:49Speaker 00

  Where did the, where did they play this week?

• 1:10:55Speaker 04

  It says Everbank Stadium.

• 1:10:56Speaker 00

  Now, Jacob, follow-up question. Were you topless doing curls while, while you were listening to this?

• 1:11:04Speaker 04

  I was topless. I wasn't doing curls. It was 11, it's 11:30 at night on a Sunday. There's nobody here except the souls in this studio.

• 1:11:13Speaker 02

  What, what exercise were you doing at the time? Like when you sent the text message, what were you doing?

• 1:11:17Speaker 04

  I was in between things because I looked on my phone and I Googled it and my Google was wrong.

• 1:11:22Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 1:11:23Speaker 04

  I'm sorry to the AWLs, I fucked up.

• 1:11:26Speaker 02

  Your heart was wrong.

• 1:11:27Speaker 04

  My heart was wrong.

• 1:11:28Speaker 02

  Actually, no, I don't know. I don't want you to say that. Your heart's, your heart's never wrong, Jacob.

• 1:11:32Speaker 04

  Thanks, PFT.

• 1:11:32Speaker 02

  Google, Google was wrong.

• 1:11:33Speaker 04

  I'm really disappointed in myself.

• 1:11:35Speaker 00

  I would like you to continue working out shirtless on Sunday nights.

• 1:11:38Speaker 04

  Okay, I do.

• 1:11:39Speaker 00

  You're getting better. Planet Fitness, that's the whole reason we have it there. We're all getting stronger.

• 1:11:42Speaker 04

  Shout out Planet Fitness. I want it to be clear that I would never take my shirt off in that manner if it were like any fuller in this office or a reasonable hour.

• 1:11:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:53Speaker 04

  But there was nobody here but us in security. Maybe.

• 1:11:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:58Speaker 04

  I do.

• 1:11:59Speaker 02

  Show Nikki Smokes what a real man looks like.

• 1:12:01Speaker 04

  Usually I have a, usually I wear a beater or tank top. But I need to do laundry, so.

• 1:12:07Speaker 00

  The Hank went to take a piss and he came back and he's just like, you gotta go out there and see what's happening in the gym.

• 1:12:13Speaker 04

  I heard that on the hot mic. And I kinda, it kinda hurt my feelings.

• 1:12:18Speaker 00

  Cause you did kinda hide when I came out.

• 1:12:20Speaker 05

  Jacob, it was like, I, it's, it's midnight. Like it was so late. I went to go take a piss and I just like saw a, what I thought was like a naked man out of the hot mic.

• 1:12:30Speaker 04

  Half naked.

• 1:12:31Speaker 05

  Just doing pull downs. I was like, what the, and then I saw that it was you, but it was, it was, it's just not what you expected to see.

• 1:12:38Speaker 00

  But now we do expect, now, now if I, if I go take a piss at midnight on a Sunday and I don't see you there, I'll be upset.

• 1:12:44Speaker 04

  Okay. Is, is, is beater acceptable?

• 1:12:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's fine.

• 1:12:48Speaker 04

  All right, cool.

• 1:12:49Speaker 00

  And let's just, let's just, when we text on the group.

• 1:12:52Speaker 04

  Yeah, just make sure it's right. I'm sorry, I, I Googled and I thought, I thought the Google was right.

• 1:12:57Speaker 02

  I don't think, you don't.

• 1:12:59Speaker 04

  I'll be more clear.

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  You don't necessarily have to apologize to us. I feel bad because we have now joined the national media discourse of disrespecting the Jacksonville Jaguars.

• 1:13:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:07Speaker 02

  And I, that's not where I want to be. I want to respect, I think we should all take some time, maybe every Friday or, or uh, Monday recap episode to just make sure that we're, we jag off real quick. We respect the Jaguars because I do think that they are a legitimate Super Bowl contender and I think that Trevor Lawrence should be getting more discussion as being the MVP considering he hasn't played for like 11%.

• 1:13:31Speaker 00

  That was one of my, that was my cool throne.

• 1:13:33Speaker 02

  Of Jaguars games, right?

• 1:13:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, so my cool throne was going to be that Trevor Lawrence, uh, in the last uh, 15 games, he's been pulled early in eight of them. And he hasn't played, uh, 89 minutes. That shouldn't happen in the NFL.

• 1:13:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's crazy. And I think their last 17 games, they might be 14 and three.

• 1:13:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:54Speaker 02

  There, we need to do a better job of respecting the Jaguars. So that's, that's why I wanted to bring that up, Jacob.

• 1:13:59Speaker 00

  This is also an insult stat for, I mean, like the, the teams they played. It was the Titans twice, the Colts twice. The Browns, the Chargers, the Jets, the Patriots.

• 1:14:10Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:14:11Speaker 00

  So.

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  Pretty bad teams.

• 1:14:15Speaker 04

  We gotta find out how involved Udinski is. Just for those who are, might be looking for a coach.

• 1:14:22Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:14:23Speaker 04

  I just, I just want to know.

• 1:14:24Speaker 00

  Are you doing that for, for Shane?

• 1:14:28Speaker 04

  Could be for anybody. I've missed the first part of that. We're looking at Udinsk.

• 1:14:32Speaker 00

  Are you looking for Udink?

• 1:14:33Speaker 04

  I'm looking for anyone who can call an offensive play.

• 1:14:35Speaker 02

  Wait, memes, what do you mean? You, you need to find out how involved?

• 1:14:38Speaker 04

  He doesn't call the plays. Liam Cohen calls plays.

• 1:14:40Speaker 02

  Right. So you gotta see like, is, is Udinski drawing them up?

• 1:14:43Speaker 04

  Yeah, how involved? Is he a ma, is he actually a whiz kid?

• 1:14:47Speaker 02

  Okay, is Cohen a Udinski merchant?

• 1:14:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:14:50Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say it, he's too tall to be a whiz kid.

• 1:14:54Speaker 00

  He's 6'3", 240. That's not whiz kid.

• 1:14:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's a big boy.

• 1:14:58Speaker 00

  He might be a whiz man.

• 1:14:59Speaker 02

  He's bizarred. A lot of that going around.

• 1:15:03Speaker 00

  You're whiz kid, you gotta be, their GM is a whiz kid, the Jaguars GM.

• 1:15:06Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 1:15:07Speaker 00

  That's a whiz kid.

• 1:15:08Speaker 02

  Maybe even hot, you know what? Udinski might be hot shot.

• 1:15:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, he could be.

• 1:15:12Speaker 02

  Hot shot or maybe mad.

• 1:15:13Speaker 00

  Big man on campus.

• 1:15:14Speaker 02

  Maybe mad scientist.

• 1:15:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay, uh, your cool throne?

• 1:15:18Speaker 02

  My cool throne, I got two cool thrones. One is, uh, I will be at LSU in Baton Rouge on Friday. Pup punk, we're at my, my lifelong dream, opening up for Shaq at Fred's. I'm excited about that. Might have a special guest there. It should be a good time. Uh, so if you're in Baton Rouge, come out, hang out with myself, Roan, Robbie, Frankie, Caroline, Nick. We're going to have a good time. It's going to be a fun night and Fred's is always, Fred's is like the best place on earth. So if you're at LSU, you already know that and, uh, Alabama weekend. So we will see you guys on Friday night.

• 1:15:50Speaker 00

  Hell, yeah.

• 1:15:50Speaker 02

  Very much looking forward to it. And then, um, my other cool throne, the low man trophy. I do have the watch list.

• 1:15:57Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:15:57Speaker 02

  For the nation's top collegiate fullbacks. And, uh, they are thus, Kemper Hodges at Air Force. Vic Lestory, Navy, Leo Kemp at Bowling Green, A.J. Peterson, Iowa State, Stroman Bridges at Army.

• 1:16:13Speaker 00

  Ooh, I liked him.

• 1:16:14Speaker 02

  Mason Hayes at Air Force. Jake Rendina at Army. His nickname is apparently America's fullback. Uh, Andrew Gustad from South Dakota State and Luke Kokat at North Dakota State. Those are, that's the watch list right now. None of that is binding. But those are the guys that we're looking at, at this point. Um, and we'll see if, if the final winner comes from, from that list or not.

• 1:16:39Speaker 00

  Air Force puts up points.

• 1:16:40Speaker 02

  Air Force puts up points and they also have, one, one of their guys is like technically, he was like an emergency quarterback last year, so he played quarterback, but he's really a fullback. So he's gone back to being a fullback from quarterback.

• 1:16:52Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:16:52Speaker 02

  Cause that's what he wants to do. And that's like the most fullback thing ever.

• 1:16:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, by far.

• 1:16:56Speaker 02

  And he's probably going to get to fly in the A-10 Warthog, which is the fullback of planes. We all know that.

• 1:17:01Speaker 00

  Um, all right. My hot seats. Uh, I get two is, uh, NBA, uh, Twitter accounts, because we were talking about it before, but Worldwide Wob has retired from,

• 1:17:15Speaker 00

  he's retired from the internet? Memes?

• 1:17:19Speaker 04

  Yeah, he said he's burned out.

• 1:17:20Speaker 00

  So people who don't know Worldwide Rob, he was, uh, he, he was one of those guys. He watched every NBA game, put out a lot of funny tweets, would basically be on top of every big moment. Now he's just gone. He's walked away. The Nick, he's a diehard Knicks fan. Knicks won the title. He said, my watch has ended and he walked away. That's, that's a cool move.

• 1:17:38Speaker 02

  He was a one man red zone for basketball.

• 1:17:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:17:41Speaker 02

  For, for like a decade.

• 1:17:42Speaker 00

  That's nuts.

• 1:17:43Speaker 02

  Uh, so I read that his, uh, his personal account is still online. But the basketball stuff, like the keeping up with all the games, he's taken a, a step back from.

• 1:17:52Speaker 00

  I didn't know you could just walk away from it.

• 1:17:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. He'll be back.

• 1:17:56Speaker 00

  You have to think he'll be back, right memes?

• 1:18:00Speaker 04

  I don't know. He said he dedicated his life and he just, he's just walking away.

• 1:18:03Speaker 00

  I like credit to him. It's like.

• 1:18:05Speaker 02

  Barry Sanders.

• 1:18:06Speaker 00

  I, I always treat, yeah, I treat the internet and doing this job like it's like the mafia. You either end up in prison or dead.

• 1:18:12Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:18:13Speaker 00

  There's not, you can't just retire.

• 1:18:15Speaker 02

  He's gotta be back. I, I feel like he's going to at some point.

• 1:18:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, he'll be back. Uh, my other hot seat is Gardner Minshew because he's named the starter. That's not good for him.

• 1:18:25Speaker 02

  Who do they got this weekend?

• 1:18:27Speaker 00

  Uh, who do they have this weekend? That's not good though. Gardner Minshew. The minute he needs to name the starter, things go south. You need to keep him as just a, you actually should honestly put him in a glass case with an axe that you can break whenever you need like some quick instant offense.

• 1:18:46Speaker 02

  He could be technically not the start. What I would do if I, if I was LaFleur is I would either have, uh, Brissette. Or maybe, maybe even Carson Beck start and then after one series, put in Minshew.

• 1:19:00Speaker 00

  At the Seahawks. Zach is struggling trying to find the schedule for the.

• 1:19:05Speaker 02

  At the Seahawks?

• 1:19:06Speaker 00

  At the Seahawks.

• 1:19:07Speaker 02

  That's not good.

• 1:19:07Speaker 00

  He even went to the Seahawks schedule.

• 1:19:09Speaker 02

  That's not good.

• 1:19:11Speaker 00

  Now he's going, Zach, this is.

• 1:19:13Speaker 04

  I was trying to get us here.

• 1:19:15Speaker 00

  Yeah, they go at Seahawks, Rams, at Chiefs. Oh, that feels mean to Gardner Minshew. Then everyone's gonna say, oh, Gardner Minshew stinks. No, he doesn't. He just should be a backup.

• 1:19:25Speaker 02

  Then again, this is just gonna preserve our image of Gardner Minshew, which is like, you gotta be very careful with him.

• 1:19:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. Also, Jacoby Brissette, is that the most successful holdout of all time?

• 1:19:36Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:19:36Speaker 00

  He just, he, he, he didn't.

• 1:19:39Speaker 02

  No.

• 1:19:39Speaker 00

  He's not good.

• 1:19:40Speaker 02

  Actually, I don't, I, I think he should have held out for more.

• 1:19:44Speaker 00

  I guess, but he got the deal.

• 1:19:45Speaker 02

  If they gave him that, that he could have gotten another couple of million.

• 1:19:48Speaker 00

  What are you, oh my God, J A K O B E. This is.

• 1:19:53Speaker 04

  People are saying he could be a Raven.

• 1:19:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. Tyson Bejic possibly too. Jacoby, Zach, what's going through your head right now?

• 1:20:03Speaker 04

  Names are like unique, you know? That's, that's, that's going through my head.

• 1:20:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:20:08Speaker 04

  And, and previously on the search, I had the, I had the game up and then we got hit with a, a tweet that shouldn't have been up. So I had to evacuate. So you guys caught me in evacuation plan a second ago. That's what.

• 1:20:18Speaker 00

  That was you and an evacuation plan?

• 1:20:20Speaker 04

  Yeah, we got, it was necessary. We don't have to say why, but it was.

• 1:20:23Speaker 02

  It does, it does feel mean to, to throw Gardner up there. Although he's got ties to the area. Yeah. Washington State, right?

• 1:20:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah, it's really.

• 1:20:33Speaker 02

  It's also very far away from Seattle. It's very mean.

• 1:20:36Speaker 00

  Uh, also my, uh, cool throne is, uh, Stella Blue Coffee because we have the golden mug giveaway. It's back. Eight lucky winners are gonna win big prizes. It's now through Friday. If you buy anything at Stella Blue Coffee.com, you get a chance to win the, we have a bunch of different prizes. You get to, we're gonna, we're gonna pick which one you win. Playstation five, Xbox, Ninja, Ninja, espresso machine, large Blackstone griddle, Nintendo switch. On and on it goes. 10 different winners. Uh, and it's gonna be awesome. So please go buy some coffee at Stella Blue Coffee.com. If you buy the ready to drink cans, you get 10 entries and we're trying to save a thousand dogs this year.

• 1:21:17Speaker 00

  So we're, we're, we're trying to save a thousand dogs. Paws Chicago, they just actually opened up their new facility. They opened up basically a farm. Where dogs can go and, uh, rehab and, and, uh, before they get adopted. It's so sick. And if you're buying Stella Blue Coffee, it's helping to fund stuff like the rescue ranch where dogs, nothing better than a dog just in like a big field, you know, a happy rescue dog in a big field. So go buy Stella Blue Coffee.com and, uh, get a chance to win something with our golden mug. All right, Zach.

• 1:21:52Speaker 04

  Um, my hot seat this week is gonna be the 49ers. Cause, uh, Brandon, you guys teamed up with, uh, Drew Rosenbaum.

• 1:21:58Speaker 00

  Drew, Drew Rosenhaus.

• 1:22:00Speaker 04

  Rosenhaus, my bad.

• 1:22:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay.

• 1:22:02Speaker 04

  I'm in a, I'm flustered. I'm sorry.

• 1:22:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. What's going on today? Is it because you're in the middle seat?

• 1:22:06Speaker 04

  Yeah, the middle, it is. If we're just, if it's just, if we're just being.

• 1:22:09Speaker 00

  Transparent?

• 1:22:10Speaker 04

  Transparent, yeah. You know, it's, I know it's next man up, but it lasts like eight minutes, a little flustered, but we're good. Yeah.

• 1:22:15Speaker 05

  Drew Rosenbaum's a doctor.

• 1:22:18Speaker 04

  Okay. Shout to the doctors out there. Doctors are important.

• 1:22:20Speaker 02

  The FBI has confused a bomb for a house several times.

• 1:22:24Speaker 04

  That is true.

• 1:22:25Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:22:27Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:22:27Speaker 00

  So are you, you think it's gonna be back in the league?

• 1:22:30Speaker 04

  Uh.

• 1:22:31Speaker 00

  Why, if you're the Seahawks.

• 1:22:32Speaker 04

  Why wouldn't you take him, right? Like, I mean, he's good. Hasn't played in like two years, but.

• 1:22:37Speaker 00

  You want him?

• 1:22:38Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:22:38Speaker 00

  You want him?

• 1:22:39Speaker 05

  We have no one.

• 1:22:40Speaker 02

  I would love, I would love if you got Brandon Iuk.

• 1:22:44Speaker 05

  I don't, but like we have no one.

• 1:22:47Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:22:47Speaker 02

  You got AJ Brown.

• 1:22:50Speaker 05

  Maybe.

• 1:22:51Speaker 02

  Oh, you don't think that they're good with AJ? I get it.

• 1:22:55Speaker 00

  They're better without AJ.

• 1:22:56Speaker 05

  No, we're, we're.

• 1:22:58Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:22:58Speaker 05

  We, we need him to play.

• 1:23:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:01Speaker 05

  And the, the details are murky.

• 1:23:03Speaker 02

  What do you mean?

• 1:23:05Speaker 05

  There's just no like

• 1:23:08Speaker 05

  concrete timetable. Just like we're gonna see how he looks.

• 1:23:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was telling Hank that I was reading a, an article, regrading the trade between the, the Patriots and the Eagles. And the Patriots got a D on the AJ Brown trade and the Eagles got a C. So they're, they're just like, everything sucks. Which doesn't make any sense at all.

• 1:23:27Speaker 05

  That's impossible.

• 1:23:28Speaker 02

  That's just a hater.

• 1:23:29Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  That's just a hater writing that. I'll, I'll stand up for you on that one, Hank.

• 1:23:32Speaker 00

  Oh, I see this today. Jalen Brown names Tyrese Maxey as Sixers leader. That, oh man, I wish Max was here right now.

• 1:23:39Speaker 02

  Like officially passing the torch?

• 1:23:42Speaker 00

  I'm gonna call him. That's shaded LeBron.

• 1:23:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:23:45Speaker 00

  That's, that's big time shaded LeBron.

• 1:23:47Speaker 02

  Well, you can't have your leader be drunk.

• 1:23:48Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:23:50Speaker 00

  But that's, yeah. That's a subtweet to LeBron.

• 1:23:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:23:54Speaker 00

  Do you guys not agree?

• 1:23:56Speaker 02

  No, I would agree.

• 1:24:00Speaker 00

  It'd be like Hank being like Max is our leader.

• 1:24:03Speaker 03

  Hello?

• 1:24:03Speaker 00

  Uh, we need a comment. I hope you're feeling better. Uh, Tyrese, or Jalen Brown names Tyrese Maxey as Sixers leader.

• 1:24:12Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 1:24:13Speaker 00

  That's a subtweet to LeBron and, and Embiid.

• 1:24:17Speaker 03

  You guys are, you guys see that the vibes are so high with the Sixers team that you're trying, that you're grasping at any single straw to bring them down?

• 1:24:25Speaker 00

  You actually sound like shit.

• 1:24:27Speaker 03

  I, I just had a doctor's appointment. I have the flu.

• 1:24:29Speaker 00

  Oh, you didn't get a flu shot?

• 1:24:33Speaker 03

  Did not get a flu shot.

• 1:24:35Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:24:36Speaker 03

  Uh, I'm taking meds today though. Doctors said I'll be fine by Thursday.

• 1:24:40Speaker 00

  Okay, great. But this is, this is concerning. This feels like a, a subtweet.

• 1:24:44Speaker 03

  No, it's not concerning. You think it's concerning.

• 1:24:46Speaker 02

  What do you think about LeBron stealing somebody's alcohol?

• 1:24:48Speaker 03

  Concerned. I'm waiting for you to call LeBron an alcoholic. I'm prepared.

• 1:24:52Speaker 02

  We would never.

• 1:24:52Speaker 05

  Already did.

• 1:24:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, we already did that.

• 1:24:54Speaker 05

  And a thief.

• 1:24:55Speaker 02

  A thief.

• 1:24:56Speaker 03

  You guys are, are getting all of your, you, you can try anything you want, but nothing will bring you down the vibes of the Sixers team right now.

• 1:25:03Speaker 00

  If there was less LeBrons in the world, maybe you would be healthy right now. The flu is, uh, something that can be easily passed from person to person. LeBron basically did that.

• 1:25:13Speaker 03

  That's fair. You know what? That's a fair.

• 1:25:15Speaker 00

  Yes. Yeah. Yeah. So you can blame your sickness on LeBron, who is, blame, when you, when you lay in bed tonight and you feel like shit, be like, damn it, LeBron did this to me. And the worst part is he's not even the leader of my team.

• 1:25:31Speaker 03

  That's, yeah, I'm, I'm sure you can do it.

• 1:25:33Speaker 02

  Okay. Like Max, you tell me what the difference is between LeBron James getting everybody in Philadelphia sick and, uh, and Rudy Gobert getting the entire world sick with COVID.

• 1:25:46Speaker 03

  I don't, I couldn't hear what Biffy said at all.

• 1:25:48Speaker 02

  He said.

• 1:25:49Speaker 05

  It's a great point.

• 1:25:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was a great.

• 1:25:50Speaker 05

  This is something is a great point.

• 1:25:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was a great point. You just got bodied.

• 1:25:55Speaker 00

  I guess you bodied me. Okay.

• 1:25:57Speaker 05

  It's a tough one to do.

• 1:25:58Speaker 00

  This isn't even fun to to fight with them right now.

• 1:26:00Speaker 05

  So get well soon.

• 1:26:02Speaker 00

  All right, get well soon, Max. All right. All right, okay, bye.

• 1:26:05Speaker 02

  But yeah, Jalen Brown, he him not giving to LeBron is like after that display last night.

• 1:26:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:12Speaker 00

  He did that on purpose. All right, you I did. I will say LeBron, I would never say this in front of Max. LeBron twerking was kind of funny.

• 1:26:19Speaker 02

  I I will also say that the the Los Angeles 76ers are just

• 1:26:24Speaker 00

  Really good.

• 1:26:25Speaker 02

  Really fucking

• 1:26:25Speaker 00

  Although

• 1:26:26Speaker 02

  Like they are, I would be worried about them right now.

• 1:26:29Speaker 00

  Although the the Bulls are atrociously bad, really bad basketball team. Yeah, this is LeBron twerking.

• 1:26:37Speaker 00

  Twerked on it. All right. Did you do your cool throne?

• 1:26:39Speaker 05

  Uh, no.

• 1:26:40Speaker 00

  You got sidebar.

• 1:26:41Speaker 05

  I can I can cool throne if you need me to. Uh, but other hot seat, super quick, since we're talking Jalen Brown, uh, buy a $20,000 toilet doesn't work.

• 1:26:47Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:26:48Speaker 05

  Good with his money.

• 1:26:49Speaker 02

  Wait, what do you mean it doesn't work?

• 1:26:51Speaker 05

  He did a

• 1:26:51Speaker 00

  Is it Dan Hurley's?

• 1:26:54Speaker 00

  Uh, that was $4,000 and it was also pissed in by Gino Oriama. Hank, I I'm gonna, I'm sensing some vibes for coming from you. I think it's a combo of the fact that Caleb had over 200 yards passing.

• 1:27:08Speaker 05

  I'm happy. I was happy. I was happy watching that with a smile on my face.

• 1:27:12Speaker 00

  You don't want this urinal.

• 1:27:13Speaker 05

  My city.

• 1:27:14Speaker 00

  You don't want this urinal to to work in our in our studio.

• 1:27:17Speaker 05

  No.

• 1:27:18Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:27:18Speaker 05

  I that's not, you're not sensing that. I said that and I'll say it again.

• 1:27:22Speaker 00

  If there's a urinal right here and we could piss in it, what is the problem?

• 1:27:28Speaker 05

  You need separation of church and state.

• 1:27:32Speaker 02

  No, Hank, you have two options because if if there's no urinal, Big Cat's

• 1:27:36Speaker 05

  Don't piss where you

• 1:27:37Speaker 02

  He's gonna piss in the sink.

• 1:27:38Speaker 05

  That's the

• 1:27:40Speaker 05

  That's the age old saying.

• 1:27:41Speaker 02

  Would would you rather have

• 1:27:42Speaker 05

  Don't piss where you pod.

• 1:27:43Speaker 02

  Pee into a sink that

• 1:27:44Speaker 00

  All right, fine. You know what?

• 1:27:45Speaker 02

  We have a trough.

• 1:27:46Speaker 00

  I'll put it up to to vote. Who wants, who who does not want the urinal in a fully operational, by the way, I'm not saying put the urinal in, it's like gross. I'm saying it can flush. Zach's gonna put ice in it every single day. Who wants the urinal or who doesn't want the urinal in the studio? Hank is the only vote.

• 1:28:03Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 1:28:04Speaker 00

  Thank you, boys, for having my back. I appreciate it. I'm not gonna use it that often.

• 1:28:07Speaker 02

  You you're just voting against convenience right?

• 1:28:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. And also, it's a talking piece. Sal Frelick walks in and be like, hey, you check out our urinal? It's right here. You want to piss? We could probably see a bunch of athletes' cocks. Not that we'd want to, but we

• 1:28:20Speaker 05

  You already do that.

• 1:28:24Speaker 05

  You already do that.

• 1:28:26Speaker 00

  What do you mean?

• 1:28:26Speaker 05

  You walk people around and you go, hey, you want some ice cream? Hey, you want to come pee in the trough?

• 1:28:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:32Speaker 05

  So now you want another

• 1:28:34Speaker 00

  No, because Hank, Hank, you

• 1:28:36Speaker 05

  Talking point, like you already have one.

• 1:28:38Speaker 00

  You proved my point because when we do a tour of the of the office.

• 1:28:42Speaker 05

  It wasn't awkward the first time when I like asked you to pee in front of me. I'm gonna do it again, but this time in a podcast.

• 1:28:48Speaker 00

  I don't ask them to pee in front of me. I actually say, we have the trough if you'd like to use it. Uh, so erroneous. You also hit on a perfect thing because when we do the tour, it's like, wow, this is awesome. This is awesome. Ice cream, basketball court, golf simulator. Oh, the Ursay banner. Oh, the trough. And then you get to our studio and it's kind of running out of things to talk about. Boom, urinal.

• 1:29:12Speaker 05

  Lottery ball machine.

• 1:29:13Speaker 00

  No, come on. Memes can't even get this.

• 1:29:15Speaker 02

  Couch.

• 1:29:16Speaker 00

  We could sell shirts, too. Of the urinal. No, I took a piss in the part of my take, uh, podcast studio and all I got was a shirt. Yeah.

• 1:29:23Speaker 02

  You could also sell urinal cakes.

• 1:29:25Speaker 00

  Dude, there's no other podcasts that's got that you can piss in the studio.

• 1:29:31Speaker 05

  That's true.

• 1:29:32Speaker 02

  What if what if it was, uh, the next dog toy? Just a urinal, a plushy urinal.

• 1:29:37Speaker 00

  That'd be cool.

• 1:29:39Speaker 02

  Think about it.

• 1:29:39Speaker 05

  Yeah, that that would that would smash.

• 1:29:42Speaker 00

  What if we sold, what if we sold, uh, pocket urinals? They're just little tiny urinals and they have like a vat underneath that you can piss into it.

• 1:29:50Speaker 05

  Like a condom?

• 1:29:52Speaker 00

  No, it's like, yeah, and then you throw it out.

• 1:29:53Speaker 02

  The bag, yeah. They actually make those.

• 1:29:58Speaker 02

  They're called stadium pals, so you don't have to get up in the middle of game.

• 1:30:00Speaker 05

  Those those could be useful or like long drives.

• 1:30:04Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:30:04Speaker 02

  You don't know anything about long drives, Lefty.

• 1:30:06Speaker 00

  Long drives?

• 1:30:07Speaker 05

  Like you ever have to pee on a long drive?

• 1:30:09Speaker 00

  Oh, I think you're talking about golf because that's all you talk about.

• 1:30:13Speaker 05

  I did not. I was not talking about golf. I have not mentioned golf one time in this whole episode.

• 1:30:17Speaker 00

  You ever you ever know the saying you get what you give?

• 1:30:21Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:30:21Speaker 00

  That's what's happening right now.

• 1:30:24Speaker 00

  You get what you give.

• 1:30:24Speaker 05

  And you get

• 1:30:25Speaker 00

  No, you gave, you gave negative energy about the urinal. I'm gonna give it back to you.

• 1:30:29Speaker 05

  No, you give piss.

• 1:30:30Speaker 00

  I'm gonna give it back to you. Get what you give, buddy.

• 1:30:33Speaker 05

  Whatever. If if if not wanting a urinal in the studio is wrong, then

• 1:30:37Speaker 00

  You're wrong. Then you're wrong.

• 1:30:39Speaker 05

  Wrong.

• 1:30:39Speaker 00

  They're wrong.

• 1:30:39Speaker 02

  We could also collect the piss and then we could scan it for drugs.

• 1:30:43Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:30:44Speaker 02

  And get get blackmail on everybody.

• 1:30:46Speaker 05

  I wish that the Chris, the guy who like kind of like manages and and runs things in the building in terms of like operations

• 1:30:55Speaker 00

  Doesn't kind of, he does.

• 1:30:56Speaker 05

  Construction.

• 1:30:57Speaker 00

  Show, put a little respect on his name.

• 1:30:58Speaker 05

  I am.

• 1:30:59Speaker 00

  No, you said kind of runs things in the operations. No, he's the fucking man and he runs the building.

• 1:31:06Speaker 05

  I would love to give him some truth serum and just like, like, I just feel bad for him.

• 1:31:11Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:31:12Speaker 05

  Because he has to entertain you in these like ridiculous ideas where

• 1:31:16Speaker 00

  That seems like a dream job. What's the hardest?

• 1:31:19Speaker 05

  Get some plumbing in our fucking studio.

• 1:31:21Speaker 00

  All right. Hey, Chris, what what was the hardest thing you had to do today? I don't know, just like entertain the idea of putting a urinal in a podcast studio. That seems pretty trivial. There's fucking people out there fighting fires, teachers, army, Marines, and you're you're complaining about a urinal?

• 1:31:37Speaker 05

  I'm not complaining.

• 1:31:38Speaker 02

  I also think that's probably a nice little break from like being a building manager like that. It's probably pretty boring.

• 1:31:43Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 1:31:43Speaker 02

  And you deal with a lot of aggressive tenants and and people making your life hell.

• 1:31:47Speaker 05

  But you can tell those people know.

• 1:31:48Speaker 00

  The roof, the roof breaks, that's a pain in the ass. This is a passion project for both me and friends.

• 1:31:54Speaker 05

  To explore.

• 1:31:55Speaker 00

  Project for him.

• 1:31:56Speaker 02

  It allows you to explore creativity as a building manager.

• 1:31:59Speaker 05

  He's gonna spend hours.

• 1:32:00Speaker 02

  He goes and heads out with his buddies that are also building managers and he's able to be like the the cock of the walk. And he holds court telling his friends, hey, let us know what those Barstool guys are planning on pissing on this week.

• 1:32:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:11Speaker 02

  And then he gets to have story time and then everyone's like, man, that's so cool. I wish I managed that building.

• 1:32:15Speaker 00

  Also, if he pulls this off, he's the one who pulled off the trough. He's gonna be in, he he he'll have like a PhD in piss.

• 1:32:20Speaker 02

  I also think that Hank is just a big, you are, you're a naysayer.

• 1:32:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, big time naysayer.

• 1:32:25Speaker 02

  Naysayer.

• 1:32:26Speaker 00

  Big time naysayer.

• 1:32:26Speaker 05

  I'm honest. I'm honest. I'm the only one that will

• 1:32:29Speaker 02

  No, you're a naysayer. That's fine.

• 1:32:31Speaker 05

  I'm the only one that's not gonna be like, oh, great idea, Big Cat. Someone has to be like, we should not have a fucking

• 1:32:38Speaker 00

  What are you thinking?

• 1:32:38Speaker 05

  Urinal in our studio. It's nice, like

• 1:32:41Speaker 00

  They're all good ideas. Thank you, memes. Love you, memes.

• 1:32:44Speaker 05

  Exactly.

• 1:32:45Speaker 00

  You're not compromised whatsoever into saying that.

• 1:32:48Speaker 02

  Now, can we talk about the flight simulator?

• 1:32:50Speaker 00

  Actually, no, memes isn't. Memes tells the truth.

• 1:32:51Speaker 02

  We gotta talk about that.

• 1:32:52Speaker 00

  I I I haven't seen a single bad idea. I would love to talk to you about the flight simulator, where you want to put it.

• 1:32:57Speaker 02

  We make it happen. I'm singing on top of the golf simulator.

• 1:33:00Speaker 00

  Oh, I like that.

• 1:33:02Speaker 02

  Some natural altitude.

• 1:33:02Speaker 00

  Right next to the slide I'm thinking about putting in?

• 1:33:04Speaker 02

  That's a perfect way to get down from the flight simulator. Hit the eject button.

• 1:33:08Speaker 00

  This is Hank is just a great

• 1:33:12Speaker 00

  That's what he walks around all day. Golf.

• 1:33:17Speaker 00

  Golf.

• 1:33:18Speaker 02

  That's why he's cranky is because golf is shut down.

• 1:33:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, he called the golf season.

• 1:33:22Speaker 05

  It is. It is.

• 1:33:24Speaker 00

  Great October.

• 1:33:25Speaker 05

  Yeah, it was a great October. But yeah, the the four o'clock darkness.

• 1:33:29Speaker 02

  Did you get all your callouts in?

• 1:33:31Speaker 05

  Yeah. Well, I still gotta do Grinelli. Grinelli's a retirement match.

• 1:33:35Speaker 00

  Well, and I gotta, we you gotta

• 1:33:37Speaker 05

  And you and Max, yeah.

• 1:33:38Speaker 00

  Oh, we called you out.

• 1:33:39Speaker 02

  Grinelli is, uh, you've cleaned his clock before.

• 1:33:42Speaker 00

  You'll clean it again.

• 1:33:43Speaker 02

  He seems like he's got like, he he's almost like you are to me. He's got like a perverted sex thing going on where he he has a humiliation kink where he wants you to beat him again.

• 1:33:53Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's that's for everything. That's for that's for Lefty Lockwood's future.

• 1:33:56Speaker 00

  If you lose

• 1:33:57Speaker 05

  We're gonna have to figure out sometime to like go on like a Saturday in Florida, I think, but

• 1:34:00Speaker 00

  If you lose

• 1:34:01Speaker 05

  Just the job.

• 1:34:02Speaker 00

  If you lose to Grinelli, we're going urinal and trough in here and shitter.

• 1:34:08Speaker 05

  Great. You can put the urinal like right behind me if I lose to Grinelli. You can just, you can just pee on my face.

• 1:34:13Speaker 00

  Awesome.

• 1:34:14Speaker 05

  Every day.

• 1:34:14Speaker 02

  I think we maybe we change the couch to, uh, just like a big, uh, recliner and then next to a toilet.

• 1:34:20Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:34:21Speaker 05

  There's gotta be like some like fucking WWE like

• 1:34:24Speaker 02

  You should have to do the podcast

• 1:34:25Speaker 05

  Toilet you can get that I could sit on that.

• 1:34:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, you should have to do it on a toilet.

• 1:34:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:34:28Speaker 05

  Yeah. Get like, you know, Triple H's like toilet that he used in Toronto in 1998.

• 1:34:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, we don't finish the podcast till Hank does a bowel movement.

• 1:34:42Speaker 02

  Golf.

• 1:34:44Speaker 05

  It's truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth, truth. Golf.

• 1:34:48Speaker 00

  All right. Do you have a cool, was that your cool throne? Where are we?

• 1:34:51Speaker 02

  We can go cool throne. Yeah, we can go double cool.

• 1:34:54Speaker 02

  Cool throne, national sports podcast.

• 1:34:55Speaker 05

  Zach finishes off.

• 1:34:56Speaker 02

  Carl Buschby, did you guys see that? Carl Buschby finally made it home.

• 1:34:59Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, I did.

• 1:35:00Speaker 05

  Who?

• 1:35:01Speaker 00

  Dude, this guy's mom, like, poor, his poor mom. Let's explain what it is. So the, a guy started in 1998 from England and his goal was to walk around the entire world. And he just got back home.

• 1:35:15Speaker 02

  Which way did he go?

• 1:35:17Speaker 00

  Left.

• 1:35:19Speaker 00

  He walked out of his door and went left.

• 1:35:22Speaker 00

  How ridiculous that 28 years he walked around the world, 31,000 miles, and he just finally got home.

• 1:35:29Speaker 02

  I'm wondering like how he got through certain parts of Asia where you're not supposed to be.

• 1:35:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. And like, did he go across the, how'd he go from, did he go Alaska across to Russia though?

• 1:35:41Speaker 02

  I mean, if he was smart.

• 1:35:42Speaker 00

  That's what he did?

• 1:35:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, he did. He went through, he went across the Bering Strait, over the ice.

• 1:35:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, look at his mom's mom's like, dude, I haven't seen you in 30 years.

• 1:35:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, come on, man.

• 1:35:53Speaker 00

  The hell, man?

• 1:35:55Speaker 02

  You could, I, I wonder what the shortest way to walk across the world is. Like, if you go across the Panama Canal and then you get to Asia would be the tricky one. Asia's gonna be long no matter what. You could cut off some time.

• 1:36:09Speaker 00

  Actually, you don't have to go through Africa.

• 1:36:11Speaker 02

  Doing the Panama Canal for sure.

• 1:36:13Speaker 00

  The, he's gotta be miserable, right? Getting home.

• 1:36:18Speaker 02

  Cab's gotta be jacked up.

• 1:36:19Speaker 00

  But I'm just saying, like, his life, this is Brooks getting out of jail.

• 1:36:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:36:24Speaker 00

  Like, you can't, you can't walk around the world for 30 years and then just be like, now I'm gonna go back to having tea with my mom at 5 o'clock PM. Like, that's just can't, that can't happen.

• 1:36:35Speaker 02

  You're not gonna have the thrill of waking up every day at a new place.

• 1:36:38Speaker 00

  What's his next one? Maybe he just does it again. Oh, what if he's like, oh, mom, we'll be right back. I, I think I, I think I dropped something in Asia. My, my AirPods are in Asia.

• 1:36:48Speaker 02

  Are you gonna go backwards?

• 1:36:49Speaker 00

  I call them AirPods or AirPods.

• 1:36:51Speaker 02

  Undo everything? Maybe swim? I don't know. Yeah. What, what does he do from here?

• 1:36:57Speaker 00

  Carl Buschby. Okay. Good, good double cool throne.

• 1:37:01Speaker 02

  That is a crazy way to walk.

• 1:37:02Speaker 00

  Hold, we're trying to figure out how he crossed the ocean. Yeah. How did he get to?

• 1:37:08Speaker 02

  Well, he went Chile to the UK. So Chile at the bottom start, and then he just went this way and stopped in the UK.

• 1:37:15Speaker 00

  So this way is he went from South America to North America. Oh, so he didn't walk across the whole world? It must be.

• 1:37:21Speaker 05

  No, he went from Russia to Alaska. You don't have to cross the ocean.

• 1:37:24Speaker 00

  No, but he didn't cross between Chile and England.

• 1:37:28Speaker 02

  But like landmass wise.

• 1:37:29Speaker 00

  Like, he didn't start at England and go to Eng-.

• 1:37:32Speaker 02

  No, no, he started in South America.

• 1:37:33Speaker 05

  He went, he went down here and then came up on the other side.

• 1:37:36Speaker 00

  Down here is South America for the audio listeners. But you understand what I'm saying. He didn't start and end at the same place.

• 1:37:41Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 1:37:42Speaker 00

  That's kind of bullshit in my mind. 31,000 miles, though.

• 1:37:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. I, I wanna know how.

• 1:37:47Speaker 00

  I'm calling erroneous.

• 1:37:49Speaker 05

  What's his beef with Africa?

• 1:37:51Speaker 02

  I guess he was just trying to take the straight shot home.

• 1:37:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. He was in a rush.

• 1:37:56Speaker 02

  I also got.

• 1:37:56Speaker 00

  Started 30 years ago, different time.

• 1:37:58Speaker 02

  How did he get through the Durn Pass in like North Colombia, South Panama? That is like, you can't.

• 1:38:03Speaker 00

  Oh, that's like the deep Amazon?

• 1:38:04Speaker 02

  You can't get through, it's actually impossible to walk through that.

• 1:38:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:07Speaker 05

  So he did, uh, no motorized transportation.

• 1:38:11Speaker 02

  I need to find out what happened in Panama. How?

• 1:38:13Speaker 00

  So that means he was on a horse.

• 1:38:15Speaker 02

  How did that happen?

• 1:38:16Speaker 00

  He was on a horse.

• 1:38:17Speaker 05

  A lot of swimming.

• 1:38:17Speaker 02

  Riding a boa. Have you seen the plants that are in that part?

• 1:38:20Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 1:38:20Speaker 02

  Like, if you just brush up against them, they got spikes that are like a foot long. If you cut yourself, you're just gonna have to cut your arm off.

• 1:38:28Speaker 00

  Also, again, I, he didn't go all the way. Do you guys not agree with me? There's a whole gap between Chile and England that he didn't do.

• 1:38:35Speaker 02

  You can't walk that.

• 1:38:36Speaker 00

  Well, you gotta figure out a way.

• 1:38:37Speaker 02

  Yeah, maybe, you know what you should have done? Get on a boat, but also have a treadmill on the boat.

• 1:38:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:43Speaker 02

  So you're walking the entire way that you take the boat there.

• 1:38:46Speaker 00

  It's not my challenge. I don't care.

• 1:38:48Speaker 02

  Also, you're right. He neglected Africa.

• 1:38:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:38:52Speaker 00

  All right. Good double cool throne.

• 1:38:53Speaker 02

  And Australia.

• 1:38:54Speaker 00

  Let's get to awesome interview with Sal Frelick in studio. Before we do that, P T, you got a couple of ads?

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• 1:40:43Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is World Series champion Sal Frelick in studio. Sal, congratulations.

• 1:40:52Speaker 07

  Thank you.

• 1:40:53Speaker 00

  Incredible run. Uh, I guess we'll just start with the, the most generic question you could ask is, how, how do you feel? Five days after, I would assume a little hungover still?

• 1:41:03Speaker 07

  Yeah, a little bit, you know, you don't really drink a ton during the year and then you kind of go ham for

• 1:41:10Speaker 07

  three, four days.

• 1:41:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:11Speaker 07

  Body's feeling it for sure, but got some good sleep last night.

• 1:41:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:14Speaker 02

  Worth it. Entirely worth it. You went to the, uh, the Thursday night football game?

• 1:41:18Speaker 07

  Yeah, we did. We literally landed from Tampa and they were like, I think we can make it. And we just got on the bus and went, got there like right at the end of the first quarter. And they kind of just rolled us out and it was sick.

• 1:41:30Speaker 02

  Who was the ringleader for all that? I feel like you have to have somebody that's, that's like the, uh, person that's handling all the logistics or, well, that person's probably separate from the ideas guy, like.

• 1:41:38Speaker 07

  Correct.

• 1:41:39Speaker 02

  Who was the ideas guy that was like, I bet we, we, we could go to Thursday night football?

• 1:41:42Speaker 07

  Jake Bowers was, was the ideas guy behind that, um, our first baseman. And then like our travel secretary kind of sets up buses and has connections there. But he was the ideas guy and we were, we were pretty banged up, not a lot of sleep. And we were like, is this, you know, we don't really want to do this, right? And then we're kind of looking around like, I think we kind of have to do this.

• 1:41:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:41:59Speaker 07

  We're like, you, you never know when you get another chance to do that. So we're like, let's get on the bus and go. So, yeah.

• 1:42:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:04Speaker 02

  Awesome. Yeah, it was a special team. You guys were so much fun to watch. You looked like you had fun playing too. It was like, it's, it's refreshing to see a team like that win the World Series. Where it's like, you guys play your own unique brand of baseball and it's exciting baseball. Did you know that this was a special team? Like, how early in the season did you know that this was, uh, a team that could, that could go on to do some really incredible things?

• 1:42:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, it's been pretty much the same past three or four years, core guys that, and we had a lot of failure in the postseason. And in spring training this year, it just kind of seemed like there was a lot of people still sour about the last few years of going home when we did. And then I would think maybe by All-Star break, I'm like, okay, this is, we're in a lot of games. And then when we won 100 games, I was like, okay.

• 1:42:49Speaker 07

  This looks like the team to go on a deep run with. And, uh, yeah, we just had a blast playing baseball though. So made it a lot easier.

• 1:42:55Speaker 00

  All right. I'm gonna ask a question that I don't really want to ask, but I'm gonna ask anyway. Were you, at, at any point in the season where you're like, oh, the Cubs are, are, are on our tails? Because it doesn't feel that way. It feels like the gap has gotten bigger the last couple of years. And it, it pisses me off, but it's also like, what are you gonna do? The Brewers are just better right now.

• 1:43:12Speaker 07

  No, for 100%. Um, and with a lot of the teams in the NL Central, like especially early in the year.

• 1:43:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:18Speaker 07

  It goes back and forth so much. And I, I would say like by All-Star break, you kind of get a good feel of like what's going on, but early in the year for sure. Um, and, uh, I think we came here for a four game set. We lost, it'd be just like 20 to nothing one game.

• 1:43:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:32Speaker 07

  Okay, they're, they might start turning it on. And they did.

• 1:43:37Speaker 07

  But yeah, it was nice having a little room at the end of the year.

• 1:43:40Speaker 00

  And then you guys, I, I like, I, I know it probably felt different in the postseason, but it felt like you guys were never like put, not, not put to the test, but you never were in an elimination game like against your, you know what I mean? Like you, the Padres probably played you the toughest.

• 1:43:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:43:55Speaker 00

  And so was that just like game to game? You're like, we just have the utmost confidence that we're gonna just keep going out there and doing our thing? Cause it also was exciting. You guys would just score, basically every game would go the same way. The team would get up on you guys and then you'd just score like five runs in six inning and then you'd win.

• 1:44:12Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think we came from behind like almost every game in the postseason and, um, but yeah, it's nice, right? Not having to face elimination or even being like down in a series.

• 1:44:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:22Speaker 07

  Wasn't, you know, the plan going in, it was like, we didn't think we were just gonna sweep every single team and roll through. But I would say after that, maybe first two games against the Dodgers, we're like, okay, we might have this thing rolling right now.

• 1:44:35Speaker 00

  This might be something special. So was there something that was said in the dugout, like when, when you'd get to the fifth or sixth inning? Where it was just like, hey, guys, now we gotta lock in. Cause it did feel like that. And I don't know. I mean, it was, it was also a big credit to just how you guys, we talked about it on the show, the approach you guys had at the plate. It felt like it was true nine V one every time you watched the Brewers play. Whereas like all you guys were so locked in. And like, I think of like the Bowers at bat against Yamamoto, shit like that where it's like, this is what they do. They just grind you down.

• 1:45:05Speaker 07

  Yeah. And I would say it's just like, you start to get to those later innings after you're, you're getting, you know, shoved on pretty much. And as a collective unit, we kind of knew it was just like, okay, which guy is it gonna be today? Like, you didn't know, but you knew someone was gonna have maybe their moment or their big at bat, which would then just get everybody going. You talk about that Bowers at bat that one day or Turang hitting a homer off Scoobal left on left like. And it was someone different every game and when you keep becoming a different person, you just have so much more confidence that you're like. You don't feel as much pressure on yourself to do it and like it's gonna happen like if you just keep applying pressure. So having that feel like throughout a lineup was just unbelievable.

• 1:45:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:42Speaker 02

  Can you tell us about the, uh, the rally cigarettes, the jacks, the heaters?

• 1:45:46Speaker 07

  Yeah. So I guess, I guess, I guess, uh. Passan smelt them in our, in our cage when he was walking by.

• 1:45:54Speaker 00

  What a narc.

• 1:45:54Speaker 07

  Yeah. Yeah. Great dude.

• 1:45:57Speaker 02

  He walked by, started coughing.

• 1:45:58Speaker 07

  Yeah. Are those coming from, are those coming from inside?

• 1:46:01Speaker 00

  Hey, wait a second.

• 1:46:02Speaker 02

  Calls nine one one.

• 1:46:02Speaker 07

  We're like, no, we're not, we're not doing that because you know.

• 1:46:04Speaker 00

  Sal's mom.

• 1:46:05Speaker 07

  MLB doesn't allow it. So.

• 1:46:07Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 1:46:08Speaker 07

  You know, why would you be doing that? But no, they're, I was telling Big Cat, they're, they're around. They're always available.

• 1:46:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. He can't, he can't actually say he was doing it.

• 1:46:15Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:46:15Speaker 00

  No, it's not legal. And also we're like, that would be funny if you win a world series and then you still get your mom mad at you.

• 1:46:22Speaker 07

  That's inevitable.

• 1:46:23Speaker 00

  She'd show up at home and she makes you smoke a full pack of cigarettes. Like, oh, you like them? Huh? Let's go.

• 1:46:28Speaker 02

  You think this is cool?

• 1:46:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:46:29Speaker 02

  You think it's cool now that you won a world series?

• 1:46:32Speaker 07

  What happened?

• 1:46:33Speaker 02

  But if there, if there were cigarettes around, I could definitely see the team like.

• 1:46:36Speaker 07

  Oh, for sure.

• 1:46:37Speaker 02

  As a bonding experience.

• 1:46:38Speaker 07

  For sure. Yeah. Like kinda like old school, especially, you know, if there were to be a slogan, you know, uh, smoke heaters to hit heaters.

• 1:46:44Speaker 00

  If there were to be one.

• 1:46:45Speaker 02

  That's pretty good. Yeah. Pretty good slogan, I would say.

• 1:46:47Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, how many, how many letters from Uker did, uh, Pat Murphy read to you guys throughout this stretch?

• 1:46:53Speaker 07

  So one, uh, each time we clinched.

• 1:46:55Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:46:56Speaker 07

  When we clinched the playoffs and then each series after. So.

• 1:46:58Speaker 00

  So Bob, you could wrote that many letters and he knew exactly who you were playing?

• 1:47:02Speaker 07

  I think some people actually do think that, but.

• 1:47:05Speaker 00

  Well, the first one was.

• 1:47:06Speaker 07

  The first one we, we did. The first one, we were all looking around like.

• 1:47:08Speaker 00

  Pat Murphy didn't really explain the first one. Well.

• 1:47:11Speaker 07

  Um, we're like, wow, he, he really knew or, you know, forecasted exactly what we were gonna do. But, uh, no, yeah, Murph just went with it. I think even Murph knew he was getting some, some heat for it and that just propelled him to do it again.

• 1:47:24Speaker 00

  Yeah. He does. I, I, I, I don't, I don't, he, he drives me nuts because he's such a good manager and like the whole underdog thing, but like. He does feel like a guy who just is in tune with everyone and, and motivates you guys in a way that very few managers do. Is that, is that pretty accurate?

• 1:47:41Speaker 07

  I think, uh, and he'll tell you, he always says, you know, baseball, especially managing is, is a relationship game. And that's why they're not called, you know, coaches. Every other sport, it's the head coach and baseball, it's manager because it's not, it's, it's a different job. Like you really are managing. You have to manage the clubhouse. Manage the game, pinch hitters when you're going to the bullpen, whoever it may be. Um, and so sometimes when you get managers that coach, uh, can get hard. And he's really good job at managing while also still coaching and not, you know, getting players mad or whatever it is.

• 1:48:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:09Speaker 07

  He's mastered it.

• 1:48:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. He pushed all the right buttons. It felt like.

• 1:48:12Speaker 02

  Yeah. What was it like meeting him? Is he a guy that like waits to bust balls or is it like right off the bat?

• 1:48:16Speaker 07

  No, out, out the gate, he, uh, first time I met him was my first.

• 1:48:21Speaker 07

  Spring training after I got drafted and he told me he was the video guy. And he was the bench coach at the time. So counsel was, was the manager. So I, I wasn't aware of everyone on staff. So I just believed it. For probably a week, I had asked him numerous times for, uh, in the days after for like him to send me videos of my at bats and like. He just goes along with it until like the first spring training game where he was at the end of the dugout.

• 1:48:44Speaker 00

  You saw him and you're like, wait a second.

• 1:48:46Speaker 07

  Why is he in baseball pants and have a clipboard writing the lineup? And everyone's like, oh, Murph, he's the bench coach.

• 1:48:52Speaker 02

  Does he have a, does he have a type?

• 1:48:55Speaker 07

  Yeah, I, for sure. I mean, so he was in the college game for, for a while before pro ball, um, which is kinda unique. And I would say, just having been a college guy myself, we definitely play a more collegey type style than, uh, other teams. And so I will say, I think he, he loves his college guys, not even guys that went to college, but that play that way, um, of like getting bunts down, base running, defense is all comes before, you know, stats and everything. And so he, he loves those kinds of players.

• 1:49:24Speaker 02

  I'm a, I'm a five foot nine guy myself.

• 1:49:26Speaker 07

  Love you.

• 1:49:27Speaker 02

  Yeah. And it seems like that's, that might also be his type. Like top to bottom, everyone's five foot nine, except for Yelly.

• 1:49:34Speaker 07

  Yeah. Pretty much everyone. I think we might have the smallest team.

• 1:49:37Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:37Speaker 07

  No, you would fit right in. He would, he would love it. As long as you just like ran hard.

• 1:49:41Speaker 02

  Representation matters. Like there's a lot of five foot nine guys at home that are watching that are like, that's, I see myself in that world.

• 1:49:46Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. For sure.

• 1:49:47Speaker 02

  It meant a lot to me.

• 1:49:48Speaker 07

  For sure.

• 1:49:48Speaker 00

  Oh, that's funny. Just short guys. He's got a, he's got a fetish.

• 1:49:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:49:52Speaker 00

  Does he like, does he kind of not like Yelich because he's too tall?

• 1:49:56Speaker 07

  No, I mean, he, he loves Yelly, but I'm trying to think if there's been some like other tall guys he didn't like. I don't know. There's not too many.

• 1:50:02Speaker 02

  What about Miz? Does he like Miz?

• 1:50:05Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, he, he loves Miz. Um, I would say. The relationships with like starting pitchers are probably different with the guys playing every day. So his relationship with him is different. If he was a position player though, I don't think he'd like Miz.

• 1:50:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:15Speaker 02

  When, when you're in the field and Miz is pitching, what do you have to do differently?

• 1:50:21Speaker 07

  No, I do nothing. I don't even get a ball, like rarely get a ball. Um, back up first base on swinging bunts or ground balls like. It's pretty insane watching him pitch. Um.

• 1:50:33Speaker 07

  Righty sometimes because they're late, uh, against him. Like I'll be a little more active, but not a lot of balls in play.

• 1:50:38Speaker 00

  Does, when, when you guys did, so you guys had these long breaks and I was asking you about it earlier, the simulated games that you play and everyone's pitching. Does, in the simulated game that you're playing, does Miz still complain about the mound?

• 1:50:50Speaker 07

  Yeah. And we still chirp him as a hitter. Um. I get, I get, I mean, he's, that was the first, and I, the first time I faced him was in like one of those simulated games. I'm like, I gotta face Miz. I gotta see what it's like. I've never faced him before.

• 1:51:02Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:02Speaker 07

  And I get in there and I'm just like, oh my gosh.

• 1:51:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:05Speaker 07

  He strides all the way down the mound. The ball's, feels like he's placing it in the catcher's mitt.

• 1:51:10Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's like 50 feet away when he, when he lets go.

• 1:51:13Speaker 07

  It's different. And I, yeah, it was the first time I faced him and I was like, I don't want people hit this.

• 1:51:17Speaker 00

  Does anyone get hit in those games?

• 1:51:19Speaker 07

  He hit me.

• 1:51:20Speaker 00

  He did?

• 1:51:20Speaker 07

  First at bat.

• 1:51:21Speaker 00

  Wait, during the, the postseason run?

• 1:51:23Speaker 07

  Yeah, before the world series.

• 1:51:25Speaker 00

  No shit.

• 1:51:26Speaker 07

  And I got, oh my gosh. I was like, yeah, it was like oh two also. I'm like, just throw a fastball, strike out, I'll walk back. It'll be great. And he threw one off the, off my back foot.

• 1:51:34Speaker 00

  Did it hurt? Were you, first second, were you like, oh my God, did I just like break my foot?

• 1:51:38Speaker 07

  Yeah, it hurt.

• 1:51:39Speaker 00

  That would have been the worst luck ever.

• 1:51:42Speaker 07

  But yeah, I, I, I think it was actually a cutter.

• 1:51:45Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:51:46Speaker 07

  It was still like 97, but I think the hundred would have probably done some more damage.

• 1:51:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. Did, did Ashby give up any runs in simulated games?

• 1:51:54Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:51:54Speaker 00

  Okay. That would have, that, that would have been awesome. I could have walked around with that being like, well, actually he didn't technically have no runs in the postseason.

• 1:52:02Speaker 02

  Did you have ABS in the simulated games?

• 1:52:05Speaker 07

  We, yes, we had, um, umpires. That were not the professional level, but then we had like, uh, one of our tech guys in the dugout with it in case we wanted to.

• 1:52:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:17Speaker 07

  It was like unlimited.

• 1:52:18Speaker 02

  You guys were really good at ABS this year.

• 1:52:20Speaker 07

  Yeah. William was unbelievable.

• 1:52:21Speaker 00

  Insane.

• 1:52:22Speaker 07

  And in spots that we were like, you don't necessarily need to challenge here to lead off the game, the first pitch, you know? But he was right. And it's like, he, he practiced it. Like he would get in the cage. Off of like the projector pitching machine, receive as people are putting in pitches and would practice it like. So he just knew it like the back of his hand. It's what it seemed like.

• 1:52:44Speaker 02

  That's awesome. Cause he, he was dominant and in the regular season, he wasn't that good.

• 1:52:47Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:52:48Speaker 02

  But in the world series, it was like, we've never, we'll probably never see an ABS performance like that ever again.

• 1:52:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. What, what was your final stats for ABS this year? Do you know? Were you allowed to? I feel like Murph.

• 1:52:58Speaker 07

  Rarely. Like if it was me, it would have had to been like bottom of the ninth, three, two bases loaded, two outs.

• 1:53:03Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:53:03Speaker 07

  Like type situation. I think I might've had like, I think it was maybe like two for four, something like that on ABS. But yeah.

• 1:53:10Speaker 00

  So would, if you, if you challenge it, would Murph be like, dude, you can't challenge that. What are you doing?

• 1:53:14Speaker 07

  Not, yeah, if I got it wrong, for sure. He's, you know, we let the guys like Yelly or William that maybe would hit a homerun the next pitch, challenge it.

• 1:53:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:22Speaker 07

  You know, so not a lot of challenges from, for me.

• 1:53:25Speaker 00

  All right. I want to talk about your homerun, uh, in game two of the world, with game two of the world series?

• 1:53:30Speaker 07

  Game two, yeah.

• 1:53:32Speaker 00

  What was going through your head when you hit the homerun? Because you hadn't hit a homerun in a while.

• 1:53:36Speaker 07

  Long time.

• 1:53:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. You said you hadn't gotten the ball in the air in a while.

• 1:53:39Speaker 07

  That's what it felt like.

• 1:53:41Speaker 00

  So when it goes over, you're just like, well, I mean, what's going through your head? That's gotta be the, the greatest. Like I would assume you were just floating around the bases.

• 1:53:49Speaker 07

  Yeah. And I don't think I've ever hit a homerun to center field. Um, I just, that's, I've never been able to hit a ball hard there and. Uh, at the right launch angle. And I hit it pretty low. So like right off the bat, I was, I was almost telling it to get down, like in front of the center fielder. Cause I, I was like, it's not gonna burn them. Um, and I saw him going back and kept going back. I'm like, there is no way. Um, and then when I saw it go over the fence, it was just like, yeah, I blacked out, just started. Saying everything under the moon. I think I gave the bullpen like seven fingers. Like it was just great. Yeah. Didn't, didn't even feel it going around.

• 1:54:22Speaker 00

  Well, it's gotta be nice knowing like you could, you could do whatever and it would still be half as long as William's trot going around the bases.

• 1:54:29Speaker 07

  Yeah. He take, he takes his time. I always said on the small sample size of home runs I've hit. I, I like going around quick to get back to the dugout and celebrate with, with the guys.

• 1:54:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, right.

• 1:54:39Speaker 07

  I'm trying to get back with the boys.

• 1:54:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:54:42Speaker 07

  I think maybe once, um, I have to try Williams trot though, cause it does look fun.

• 1:54:46Speaker 00

  That would be funny if you did. Yeah. Everyone's like, what is he doing? That was his third homerun of the year.

• 1:54:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. Did you, uh, did you play for Italy?

• 1:54:55Speaker 07

  I did, yeah.

• 1:54:56Speaker 02

  How was that?

• 1:54:57Speaker 07

  Oh, blast. And I, that was in 23.

• 1:55:02Speaker 02

  So it wasn't his most recent one?

• 1:55:04Speaker 07

  No, it was, it was the last one. Um, and the, a big reason why I wanted to do it too is because we were in Taiwan for the first, that's where our pool was. And I was like, this is a great opportunity to go somewhere I've never been. So we went to Taiwan. It was unbelievable. Great baseball fan base there. And then we won there. We won our pool there like by chance. It was crazy. And then we went to Japan. And played, uh, the Japanese team in the Tokyo Dome, which was also unreal. We got smoked, but like super cool experience there.

• 1:55:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's awesome.

• 1:55:37Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:55:37Speaker 02

  Yeah. You were a football player, right?

• 1:55:39Speaker 07

  In high school.

• 1:55:40Speaker 02

  Quarterback. Quarterback, quarterback. And how'd you decide baseball?

• 1:55:44Speaker 07

  So.

• 1:55:46Speaker 02

  Cause you're pretty good.

• 1:55:46Speaker 07

  Yeah. I, I, so I played football and hockey as well through high school. Um, I didn't want to ever give one up. Um.

• 1:55:54Speaker 00

  That's pretty crazy.

• 1:55:55Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:55:56Speaker 00

  Like a, I, I, I would imagine there's not a lot of baseball players in major league baseball who played three different sports.

• 1:56:03Speaker 07

  I don't know. Maybe.

• 1:56:04Speaker 00

  High school.

• 1:56:04Speaker 07

  Yeah. I would say maybe some of the older guys.

• 1:56:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:06Speaker 07

  Um, I've seen younger guys now you see specializing, but it was like, I, I couldn't give, I committed to Boston college for baseball, my, my sophomore year of high school. And I was like, I don't want to stop playing football and hockey. And they're like, that's fine. And then after my junior year, um, Boston college offered me for football. And I was like, oh, this is great. I'll, I'll go play both. Like this, I don't have to give up football. And my baseball coach was, um, at BC was basically like, hey, if you come here. You're gonna be on full scholarship with them. Baseball doesn't give out full scholarships. Um, you're gonna be football first. They're gonna take priority there. I think you're a baseball player. Um, I think you can play professional baseball, which is something I never thought about. Um, and I basically. First was like, I'm gonna go tell my high school football coach that open it up out to other college football coaches. I want to play both and

• 1:56:51Speaker 07

  no other school to offer me for baseball. Um, and so I really started thinking about it and I was like, all right, I'm gonna just do baseball. Um, that's what I did.

• 1:56:58Speaker 00

  Wait, was that a Dazio?

• 1:57:00Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:57:00Speaker 00

  So you're not a dude?

• 1:57:02Speaker 07

  I had the opportunity to be one, but I'm not.

• 1:57:04Speaker 00

  But you're not a dude, you're certified not a dude.

• 1:57:06Speaker 07

  I'm not, I'm not.

• 1:57:07Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 1:57:07Speaker 07

  I know. I think about it. I think about it a lot.

• 1:57:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:10Speaker 02

  You were, you were a guy.

• 1:57:11Speaker 07

  Just a guy.

• 1:57:12Speaker 00

  To have to tell.

• 1:57:13Speaker 02

  You had the opportunity.

• 1:57:13Speaker 00

  It's a tell Steve Adazio, hey, coach, listen.

• 1:57:16Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:57:16Speaker 00

  I've done some thinking. I'm not a dude.

• 1:57:19Speaker 07

  Yeah. That's basically how it went.

• 1:57:22Speaker 00

  Brutal. That's a brutal way to have to. He's the one guy you don't want to have to tell it to.

• 1:57:27Speaker 02

  Did you tell him face, like face to face?

• 1:57:29Speaker 07

  No, he, uh, my baseball coach did. Um.

• 1:57:32Speaker 00

  Oh, so you're definitely not a dude.

• 1:57:33Speaker 07

  Yeah, no. I didn't have the heart. I'm kidding me. Absolutely not. Can you please tell him for me?

• 1:57:40Speaker 02

  What was your, what was your game like in high school as a quarterback? Like, were you a dual threat guy?

• 1:57:43Speaker 07

  Yeah. So we ran spread. My, my high school football coaches all played at UNH. Um, and they played under Chip Kelly.

• 1:57:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:51Speaker 07

  So they were, we ran spread offense.

• 1:57:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:57:54Speaker 07

  And, um, basically the, the triple option out of shotgun spread. I was small where I couldn't even see over the line. So I was rolling out right, left for passes, stuff like that. Um, but I would, I would say it was like run first, pass second for sure. But, um, yeah.

• 1:58:09Speaker 02

  Man, what could have been?

• 1:58:10Speaker 07

  Yeah, I played against your, your, your guy, uh, Mikey Samer still was, uh,

• 1:58:14Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:58:14Speaker 07

  A buddy of mine in high school. Um.

• 1:58:16Speaker 02

  Would he move? Did he know, would his feet move then?

• 1:58:19Speaker 07

  Yeah. No, he was very, he played wide receiver too. And we all thought he was, I mean, I think that's where he went to Michigan as, but.

• 1:58:23Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:58:24Speaker 07

  Um, that was the last game I ever played was they, they, they beat us in the state semis that year.

• 1:58:28Speaker 02

  Did he pick you off?

• 1:58:30Speaker 07

  I think he did. Yeah.

• 1:58:30Speaker 00

  Oh, no.

• 1:58:31Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think he, I think he might've.

• 1:58:32Speaker 00

  Wait, so you said something interesting there that you, you hadn't thought that you could be a major league baseball player all the way up until getting a scholarship. When did you, when you started playing at BC, was there a moment where you're like, wait, this, I actually can do this? Like, or, or, was it someone said something to you or some, some performance where you're like, shit, this actually is my future?

• 1:58:54Speaker 07

  No, I, to be honest, I don't think until like my junior year when we're draft eligible, like maybe like towards the end of my junior year season where I was like, oh, okay. I think I might get drafted here.

• 1:59:05Speaker 00

  Because you got drafted, did you get drafted in the first round?

• 1:59:07Speaker 07

  First round, yeah.

• 1:59:07Speaker 00

  Fifteenth?

• 1:59:08Speaker 07

  Fifteenth. My freshman year, I had a good freshman year. Um, wasn't anything like crazy special. And then my sophomore year, um, we, it was COVID. So we played like one game and then gave me a season got canceled. So then I was just kind of sitting around, not sure what was happening. Then you come back for your junior year and especially during COVID, like I didn't know what was gonna happen with the draft or whatever. So junior year happened, had a pretty good junior year. And then after I was like, oh, okay. I might be getting drafted here.

• 1:59:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:59:35Speaker 02

  Did you guys, uh, did you practice any differently, uh, preparing for the trop?

• 1:59:39Speaker 07

  Oh yeah. When, when we first got to the trop after game two, we had a day off. So we flew and went right there. And basically just set up a machine at home plate and launch balls for infielders, catchers, outfielders, everyone, because it's, uh, that was my first time playing there. It's really hard to see, like the ball, if you take your eye off it, you, it's like hard to refine it. And a lot of times like in the outfield, if you gotta go run after a ball, you'll try to look at it, put your head down, try to get to the spot and refine it and just almost couldn't do it there. It was, it was tough.

• 2:00:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. It seems like crazy place to field. And then it basically turned into South Milwaukee.

• 2:00:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:00:13Speaker 02

  So was it, were you surprised?

• 2:00:15Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. It was, we, we came out for stretch, um, for game three, like four hours before the game. Um, usually it's empty. Nobody's there and we went out on the line and it was just like Brewers chants. Everybody was in their seats. I, I didn't even see like a Rays logo. It was, it was insane. And I think a part of that might've been, um, I think they were saying it was almost cheaper to get a flight and a hotel and a, and a ticket to the trop than for a ticket in Milwaukee.

• 2:00:40Speaker 00

  I believe that. I believe that.

• 2:00:41Speaker 07

  They traveled though.

• 2:00:42Speaker 00

  Um, have you had any conversations with Yelich about doing the home run derby?

• 2:00:46Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:00:48Speaker 00

  Do you think he's, I mean, he's won the world series. Like what do you, why would you do the home run derby now?

• 2:00:52Speaker 07

  Okay, think, think about this. He almost, I think he's gonna, has more reason to do it now that he's won the world.

• 2:00:58Speaker 00

  No, come on.

• 2:01:00Speaker 07

  I think so.

• 2:01:00Speaker 00

  No, because what if he embarrasses himself?

• 2:01:03Speaker 07

  Then he can say he's a world series champ.

• 2:01:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, but everyone would be like, oh, but he embarrassed himself.

• 2:01:07Speaker 02

  That's what we'll remember him by.

• 2:01:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:09Speaker 02

  Like, I don't remember a single thing Willie Mays did besides that last at bat.

• 2:01:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. Like what if he just doesn't hit any home runs in the home run derby? Just be like, that guy.

• 2:01:16Speaker 02

  Terrible way to end. Oh my God. No one will remember the MVP. Nobody remembered the world, nothing. It's just gonna be Yelich going oh for goose egg. And we might not even have a home run derby.

• 2:01:26Speaker 07

  No, it's, it's true. I don't know how, how long, um, he's gonna play for. He's still got a few years for sure. And I, I do know that he does really want to do it before he retires.

• 2:01:37Speaker 00

  Do you know that we, at one point we were like, what if we just slipped like steroids to him? We were, we were like, let's just do it. Let's just, let's just give him a drink.

• 2:01:45Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, he can move under fart. I'd, I'd understand.

• 2:01:49Speaker 00

  Get him popped right before the home run derby.

• 2:01:51Speaker 07

  I'd get it.

• 2:01:52Speaker 00

  Now, and then we said it out loud. So now he'll never accept it.

• 2:01:54Speaker 07

  He has to win it, right?

• 2:01:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's gotta win it. Yeah, he's gotta win it.

• 2:01:57Speaker 07

  So you just have to maybe.

• 2:01:58Speaker 02

  You know what?

• 2:01:58Speaker 07

  Make sure someone else.

• 2:01:59Speaker 02

  I'm gonna say this, this might be reckless.

• 2:02:03Speaker 02

  There's no chance he would win the home run.

• 2:02:06Speaker 07

  That's reckless. That's reckless.

• 2:02:07Speaker 00

  He's old.

• 2:02:08Speaker 02

  Reckless. He's older. Like he's still a very good player, but I mean, like we're talking about win the entire home run derby against guys that are like 21, 22 years old in their prime.

• 2:02:17Speaker 00

  My ultimate fear is that, cause I, I don't know what's gonna happen with the lockout, but Wrigley is the all-star game this year and like the wind blowing out perfectly for a lefty and just being like, ah, god damn it.

• 2:02:28Speaker 07

  And it is, it is a, like hitting a home run in batting practice is definitely an art that does not correlate at all to like hitting a home run in a game. Like every MLB player can pretty much hit a home run in batting practice if they tried. And some guys have mastered it and we'll say when Yelly takes his home, home run round and BP, it's pretty, it's pretty special.

• 2:02:48Speaker 00

  Here, I'll say something a little even, uh, more reckless. I think if Christian Yelich wants to do the home run derby, he, he would, uh, be an absolute coward to not have either myself or PFT pitch to him. Like if he wants to do it, let's do it. I'll pitch to him.

• 2:03:04Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:03:06Speaker 07

  One pitching, one catching.

• 2:03:07Speaker 00

  I'd throw everything in his head.

• 2:03:10Speaker 00

  What a spectacle that would be.

• 2:03:11Speaker 02

  I mean, we can throw some meatballs for him if he wants.

• 2:03:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:13Speaker 02

  I just don't think, I, I don't think he's got it in him.

• 2:03:16Speaker 00

  Stop. Stop doing this. What are you doing?

• 2:03:20Speaker 02

  There's so many lefties out there with so much power that are so much younger. What? I'm sick of being, I'm sick of living in fear.

• 2:03:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:27Speaker 02

  That's what it is. I'm, I'm trying to reclaim my truth.

• 2:03:29Speaker 00

  He's old anyway.

• 2:03:30Speaker 02

  He can't do it.

• 2:03:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's old. What, what, speaking of like batting practice, we saw, I saw that clip of Vogelbach like teaching or, or saying something to Yelich. What, what is he as a hitting coach? Like, how often is he giving you things to think about and like tinkering with your swing? Because it's, it's shocking to me talking to MLB guys and they're like, yeah, I'm always changing something.

• 2:03:52Speaker 07

  Yeah. I mean, I would say that you, your swing's changing throughout the whole entire year. Like you don't really replicate your swing. Some days you wake up and you just do something different. And Vogie is just perfect with helping guys stay, cause it's gonna be different, but stay within like the main part of their swing. And he's a, an amazing human being, one of one. Um, he's the exact same as when he played. Um, and a big part of why I think, you know, um, our offense was great this year.

• 2:04:22Speaker 07

  Especially with Yelly, I was like Yelly's guy. They, they spent a lot of time in the cage together and, um, not a lot of people I think more knowledgeable than Vogie.

• 2:04:29Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I saw that stat, the analytics, and I don't understand it, but it was basically that the Brewers were the only team that essentially like really stressed opposite field hitting. So you guys could see, can you tell me about that? Like, do you could see the ball through the zone that split second more?

• 2:04:45Speaker 07

  Yeah. So I would say pretty much if you asked the majority of major league hitters, they would say, you know, they're trying to hit the fastball the other way is the general approach, but a lot of guys, you know, like to pull the ball, it's easy. You hit it harder, whatever. Murph literally says you can't play on our team unless you can hit a backside ground ball like on command, pretty much, especially with two strikes. And to do that, you know, you have to see the ball so deep. And, um, for me personally, it allows you to, if I, if I say I'm gonna hit the fastball. Out of the catcher's mitt allows me to kind of see if it's not a fastball, if it's a curve ball, change it, whatever it is. Um, so that's why I think we weren't, I think we were, I don't know if

• 2:05:25Speaker 07

  we were last or second last in home runs, but um, I think we just, especially with two outs and two strikes, we're so good at, everybody was able to kind of hit a backside ground ball whenever they wanted.

• 2:05:35Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 2:05:36Speaker 04

  And when it comes to uh, not swinging at that first pitch, uh, it was something that Big K and I had just discussed and it felt like you guys didn't swing at all at first pitches, but when you did, it felt like there was a reason why you were swinging at that first pitch. What, what were you guys looking for? Like, how, how would you know, okay, this is one that I can take the bat off my shoulder for?

• 2:05:54Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's, it's hard. That's a hard game to play, especially if you're not, you know, a two, three, four hitter. Um, especially on our team. First pitch is pretty much like a no-go if you're not a two, three, four hitter, which stinks at times because you don't want to be oh, one to some of these starters. And at the same time that you understand your role in an offense and like, if I go up to the plate and swing at the first pitch and get out, then like, Churio has to take a pitch. We don't want that guy taking a pitch. So, um, you just have to choose your spots with runners in scoring position, it switches and like, I would say if a starter's just in an absolute groove and just landing first pitch strikes, we're like, all right, let's start taking some shots here. Uh, oh, oh. Um, yeah.

• 2:06:34Speaker 00

  What, to ask it a different way, because it's going to eventually come out, but how were you guys cheating?

• 2:06:40Speaker 07

  I wish, and it was funny, I think I was getting blasted on um, when Churio hit that walk off against Mason.

• 2:06:46Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, you were, but that's not cheating. But you were, you were looking at what the catcher was doing.

• 2:06:51Speaker 07

  So, yeah, I, I wasn't, I, I was trying to, I was like, man, because anytime you're on second base, it's like, you want to look at the pitcher, especially relievers who are usually two pitch guys, because you can see the difference between a fastball and like a splitter. And if you can get a pitch, that's great, you can help the hitter out. I don't think our team has ever done that once. Not because we don't want to, just because we're bad at it. Like, we're terrible. Like, other teams are so much better at us in it. And then after that, I guess I like, maybe itched my neck or something.

• 2:07:19Speaker 00

  Like you grabbed, you like, you made a fist or something?

• 2:07:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, I, I wish I had something on him, but I did not, no.

• 2:07:25Speaker 00

  But that, by the way, is not cheating. That is completely in the rules. But it was funny, because I, I, I said it, I, I gave up on, like, I, I still don't like the Brewers, but I gave up on trying to fight against how good you guys were, like, three weeks ago. I tweeted out, I was like, they're going to win the World Series, let's just get used to it. And part, part of what I was saying was like, the amount of people were like, oh, the Brewers must be cheating. It's like, no, they're just really good. It's okay for teams to just be dominant. Like, I think the Astros kind of ruined it for everyone. Where it's like, if a team just has a really good run, everyone's like, well, they must be doing something. It's like, or they're just really good.

• 2:07:59Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's sort of, it felt like, you know, it was just, especially when we got into October, it just, you see, you see that happen a lot with those teams that get hot and it just happened to be us this year. It just got hot.

• 2:08:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, and I was saying to you, it did feel like there was, like, that moment, the, the, playing the Dodgers, it felt like you guys had like the unfinished business feel to it. Whereas like, last year, you got embarrassed and it was, you could just see it in the two teams. Like, you guys were just so much more locked in than the Dodgers. The Dodgers kind of were a business approach of like, we'll just be the Dodgers and win this series. And it felt personal for you guys.

• 2:08:31Speaker 07

  Yeah, it, it's funny because they have the best, arguably the best starting pitcher rotation in the league. And I would say the general consensus on everyone on our team is like, we really hope we get to play the Dodgers again. Um, and I'm like, really? Like, oh, like, what about the Phillies or the Rays? Anyone you run into is good, but it really was, like, everyone kind of felt this just like bitterness from getting swept by them last year that we really did, you know, want to face them again.

• 2:08:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. Was there ever a time that you were nervous this postseason?

• 2:09:02Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah. I mean, pretty much before every game, uh, you know, you get the butterflies and um, I always said like, you know, playing football or hockey, it was easy because you'd be nervous, just go out, hit somebody, get in the game. In baseball, it's like, you don't always get the, a play, it could be the fourth, fifth inning until you get a play or till, you know, you see, you take a swing. So, it's a little hard to get in the game sometimes. Um, but yeah, I mean, that game one for, for the World Series was probably the most nervous I'd ever been before. Um, I got to hit my first at bat too, which was like, great, got it out of the way and kind of settling after that.

• 2:09:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, all right. So you also are a great dude. So I, I saw you, Best Buddies is one of the charities that you do a lot of work with. And then you do uh, stuff with the Children's Hospital in Milwaukee. Do you, like, why are you such a great dude? Is what my question is. Maybe save some for the rest of the season.

• 2:09:56Speaker 07

  No, I mean.

• 2:09:57Speaker 00

  World Series champ, Italian, Salvatore's an awesome name.

• 2:10:02Speaker 04

  Uh, cigarette smoker though.

• 2:10:03Speaker 00

  Cigarette smoker, that's true.

• 2:10:04Speaker 07

  Hey, allegedly.

• 2:10:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. But are you doing something big with, now that you've like, I, I would imagine like, going to see the kids and stuff has got to be a pretty cool part of it.

• 2:10:12Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, I, I also think like, when I, when I was a kid growing up, I, you know, I was in Boston and had a great childhood of like athletes to idolize who I would see doing cool stuff. And I've, since I've been drafted and I've always felt like it was just kind of part of the job, part of the duty, um, to do stuff like that. And I enjoy it. Uh, I grew up with, with the Best Buddies organization in my high school. So I've always been close with them and was able to connect with them out in Wisconsin. But I love doing that stuff, you know, on off days, we get a chance. Um, that's usually when we're free to do stuff, but always make sure I'm booking up the calendar.

• 2:10:46Speaker 00

  Did you have to tell Best Buddies, like, hey, I, I just said that I'm going to drink 100,000 beers for the parade, so I might not be able to do any events this next year?

• 2:10:55Speaker 07

  Yeah, they, they know.

• 2:10:56Speaker 00

  You've got a lot of beers to drink.

• 2:10:57Speaker 07

  I, I do. I do. And they know, most people know. Someone was saying, I think it's like, do you know, 26, I think it was maybe 26 a day?

• 2:11:06Speaker 00

  26 a day?

• 2:11:07Speaker 07

  For how long? I think it was for a year, which is, I guess I would do.

• 2:11:10Speaker 00

  No, that's not right. Wait.

• 2:11:12Speaker 07

  Someone gave me the ratio.

• 2:11:13Speaker 04

  How many beers did you say that you drank?

• 2:11:14Speaker 00

  You said 100,000.

• 2:11:15Speaker 07

  100,000.

• 2:11:16Speaker 04

  You said 100,000. So there's 365. Oh God, the calculator. You have to, you have to drink 273 a day.

• 2:11:23Speaker 07

  For a year?

• 2:11:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:25Speaker 04

  You can do it.

• 2:11:26Speaker 00

  If there's any, if there's any state that can do it, it's Wisconsin.

• 2:11:29Speaker 04

  Like, living in Milwaukee, when you, you don't have to buy a beer for the rest of your life, that's a great city to not ever have to spend money on beer.

• 2:11:35Speaker 07

  Yeah, no, I, I was telling Big Head earlier, I, um, like, after the parade, I, I was just out at breakfast the next morning, getting a coffee. I probably had 20 people come up to me and just give me a beer. They're like, we want to help. And I'm like, oh.

• 2:11:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's not a joke in Wisconsin. You can't joke like that.

• 2:11:51Speaker 07

  People just have it on, like, where you guys, it's 9:00 AM, they're just like, taking it out of their mouth.

• 2:11:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's their emergency beer. Just rolling around with it.

• 2:11:58Speaker 07

  I'm like, thank you.

• 2:11:59Speaker 00

  It's like having an inhaler. I just need my beer, real quick. Um, all right, uh, Zach, you got a question? Let's do a Roback question. R H O B A C K dot com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase, Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code TAKE. Zach, give Sal a question here.

• 2:12:17Speaker 04

  I was going to tell, I did have a quick question. I was wondering, uh, what does the, like, playing obviously a series in October, going for the World Series, what is a more, an evening before game day look like? Like, how do you get adjusted to, you're like, oh, I'm about to go have potentially one of the biggest days of my entire life. How do you get ready for that?

• 2:12:33Speaker 07

  Uh, and I wish I had the full formula. Um, but I, I like to keep it low key. Some people like maybe going out to dinner, significant other, just to kind of keep their mind off the thing, get out of the house. But I've always been like, uh, order in or cook or whatever it is, stay in the, stay in the house. You watch a little film, uh, early, but other than that, I was watching a ton of college football. Honestly, it was great. I love college football and it was something I could watch to kind of take my mind off stuff. So, yeah.

• 2:13:01Speaker 00

  That's a great answer. College football, you got a follow-up?

• 2:13:04Speaker 04

  Uh, follow-up? Yeah, they touched on a little bit earlier today or in the interview. Uh, three sport athlete, I believe, uh, last regular season game, might have broken a touchdown run for about 50 yards before halftime, five in the air, one on the ground. Uh, now a World Series champion. What do you credit just being, you have like, some of the accolades where you could be a bad guy. What do you credit, remind, like, staying a good guy? How do you do that? I am curious, because you do have like the, you could decide to be a bad guy, but you're not.

• 2:13:35Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, uh, it's a great question.

• 2:13:37Speaker 04

  Great question.

• 2:13:39Speaker 07

  Oh, I think I was, I was, I was just raised, uh, in a household where being a bad guy was not allowed. Um, and I have a lot of good friends in my corner, uh, family members, girlfriend, that if I ever was a bad guy or maybe ever get too big headed or whatnot, would put me in my place, which I'm very fortunate for. So, yeah, I would say just have some good people around me to keep me humble.

• 2:14:02Speaker 04

  That's awesome. I love that for you.

• 2:14:03Speaker 00

  Are you, are you still a Patriots fan?

• 2:14:05Speaker 07

  So I'm actually a Steelers fan. I'm a Steelers fan. Um, my, my dad, um, is from Pittsburgh.

• 2:14:11Speaker 00

  We got to get Jersey Jerry down here.

• 2:14:13Speaker 07

  So, yeah, I'm a big Steelers fan. He, he played at Pitt and, um,

• 2:14:17Speaker 00

  Wait, did he play with, when did he play at Pitt?

• 2:14:20Speaker 07

  He came in, yeah, I played, Sig, Sig was a, uh, grad assistant, his, his freshman year. He was a fullback. He missed Marino by a year. Um, he was there with Bill Frelick and, um,

• 2:14:33Speaker 00

  Pitt has just like, the most Hall of Famers. It's insane.

• 2:14:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, so, um, but I grew up a, a, a pretty dire Steelers fan, yeah.

• 2:14:41Speaker 00

  You got to get back on Team Italy, by the way.

• 2:14:43Speaker 07

  I know.

• 2:14:44Speaker 00

  Vinny had, we, Vinny's a friend of ours and he was, he had the best, it feels like he had the best time ever.

• 2:14:48Speaker 07

  Yeah, he always does. He, I, I think when he announced he was doing it this year, he had, he was like,

• 2:14:53Speaker 02

  Working like an espresso bar.

• 2:14:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:14:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was having the best time ever. All right. Well, Sal, congrats again, man. And just, you know, listen, I'll actually say this, best buddies, PFC and I would love to make a charitable donation to best buddies. If you could maybe tell Christian Yalich, hey, that Homer Derby thing is like, that's lame.

• 2:15:14Speaker 02

  Hey, I will, I will get on that.

• 2:15:16Speaker 00

  Just, just start being like, you know, like every, if he ever brings it up, just be like, you're still thinking about doing that? No cool people do that anymore.

• 2:15:23Speaker 02

  It's just like slip some testosterone in his coffee. Yeah. And I should leave out that you don't think he could win it too, right?

• 2:15:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, we'll cut all that.

• 2:15:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:15:30Speaker 00

  But leave in the part of us saying that he's not a man unless he lets us pitch to him. That part stays in it. All right, Sal. Thanks so much.

• 2:15:38Speaker 02

  Thanks, guys.

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• 2:16:24Speaker 00

  All right. What do we got to finish off? Finish us off, Hank?

• 2:16:29Speaker 05

  Teams going for two and they score to be up seven. Free chance at making it a two score game versus one and just a TD and two point try. If it fails, fuck it's still up seven.

• 2:16:40Speaker 00

  This is the Billy.

• 2:16:42Speaker 07

  So I saw this discourse online. This guy didn't really fully ask the question, but like.

• 2:16:48Speaker 00

  Is the Billy?

• 2:16:49Speaker 07

  Yeah, this is, give me the scenario. This is just coming back around that people are saying it's really dumb to go for two.

• 2:16:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, no, but is this not the Billy? He, when you're up, when you score to go up seven, go for two. So you're up two scores? Is that what he's asking?

• 2:17:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think so.

• 2:17:03Speaker 07

  Oh, I thought he'd be saying the opposite.

• 2:17:04Speaker 02

  No, I think he's saying.

• 2:17:05Speaker 05

  Yeah, teams going for two when they score to be up seven. I, I agree.

• 2:17:08Speaker 00

  To go up, go for two, try to go up nine?

• 2:17:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I think the question is.

• 2:17:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, I, I.

• 2:17:15Speaker 02

  It, that would be a major, it depends on what your offense looks like.

• 2:17:20Speaker 00

  I disagree.

• 2:17:21Speaker 02

  If you have Josh Allen, yes, you should every time.

• 2:17:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know. I.

• 2:17:24Speaker 02

  If you have.

• 2:17:25Speaker 05

  You've got to have a play to score.

• 2:17:26Speaker 00

  But maybe the other team go for two is also like that. They have to score twice. I'd like to do that guaranteed. And also I think, when did they change the, the extra point?

• 2:17:41Speaker 02

  Few years ago.

• 2:17:42Speaker 00

  So I think that does change everything where extra points are now missed where they used to not be missed.

• 2:17:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, they used to be 99%. I, I think that if you have, or like 97%, I think is what it was before they moved it back. If you have a great short yardage offense, like, I'm thinking back to the, the Carolina Panthers with Cam Newton, that year when they had Rivera as their head coach.

• 2:18:03Speaker 00

  2015.

• 2:18:04Speaker 02

  They were, they were like automatic. I don't want to say automatic, but like 70% from two yards when it was like third and two or fourth and two. Like they had the best short yardage offense maybe of all time. They should have just gone for two on every single two point conversion instead of kicking extra points.

• 2:18:21Speaker 00

  I just don't, I, I would rather make them score twice.

• 2:18:25Speaker 02

  I would go, I would do it. I don't hate it. And it also depends on if you trust your defense. There's, there's variables. I don't think you can say one size fits all for that.

• 2:18:34Speaker 00

  What do you guys think about the debate that popped up again? The two point conversion debate was, would happen in the USC, Ohio State game?

• 2:18:43Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:44Speaker 00

  Where it's like, go for two when you're down, what, 15? And you score, you go, do you go for two on the first touchdown or the second touchdown? I, I think you want to know right away.

• 2:18:55Speaker 02

  First, yeah.

• 2:18:56Speaker 00

  But I do understand like, the vibes are killer. They, they didn't get it and that does kill the vibes and the fact that you're now down nine.

• 2:19:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:19:04Speaker 00

  And you're kind of fucked. But I would rather know so that you know you have the onside kick right now.

• 2:19:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're kind of fucked anyways. I mean, you can, you can still pull it off if you just kick there. I, I, I would like to know sooner rather than later. Yes.

• 2:19:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right.

• 2:19:21Speaker 05

  Hey fellows, had a debate with a couple of friends. Would you rather have your team being a rebuild like the Dolphins were? The goal is to lose and build the winning team or have a delusional team like the Patriots or Steelers? Where you can convince yourself that your team has a chance for the Super Bowl when any no bias fan knows they don't. Buddy.

• 2:19:40Speaker 05

  We were in the Super Bowl last year. Who would you guys say is the, like the favorite out of the AFC right now?

• 2:19:45Speaker 00

  Bills.

• 2:19:46Speaker 05

  Beat their fucking ass. So I don't know.

• 2:19:48Speaker 00

  Broncos, Jaguars, Jaguars as well.

• 2:19:50Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:19:53Speaker 02

  You guys beat the fuck out of Jaguars too, right?

• 2:19:54Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 2:19:55Speaker 00

  Trevor Lawrence didn't come out of that game early, did he?

• 2:19:57Speaker 05

  Don't.

• 2:19:58Speaker 02

  I think he might have.

• 2:19:59Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:20:00Speaker 05

  Goldfish.

• 2:20:00Speaker 00

  Oh, Zach is now looking up Patriots Seahawks Super Bowl.

• 2:20:05Speaker 02

  It happened. Feels like forever ago.

• 2:20:10Speaker 05

  We were in the Super Bowl. Have you guys been in the Super Bowl really? No.

• 2:20:14Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:20:15Speaker 05

  This year though. Sweet.

• 2:20:19Speaker 05

  Right?

• 2:20:20Speaker 02

  I don't. Sweet, like a cake or a cookie.

• 2:20:22Speaker 00

  Played well against Seahawks.

• 2:20:25Speaker 05

  I'm happy for you. I'm excited.

• 2:20:27Speaker 00

  I.

• 2:20:28Speaker 05

  Everyone in this office is like.

• 2:20:29Speaker 00

  You can't.

• 2:20:29Speaker 05

  Fighting over these sweet seeds.

• 2:20:30Speaker 00

  You just can't be in, you can't be in the rebuild for too long. The forever rebuild is the worst memes. You're in a forever rebuild.

• 2:20:39Speaker 07

  Yeah, but you get addicted to losing. It's kind of fun.

• 2:20:45Speaker 00

  You have Stockholm syndrome?

• 2:20:46Speaker 07

  Yeah, because one day it's gonna, it's gonna turn.

• 2:20:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:50Speaker 02

  Shane, are you, are you rebuilding the Chargers?

• 2:20:52Speaker 05

  We have to.

• 2:20:53Speaker 02

  But are you doing it like memes on Madden?

• 2:20:56Speaker 05

  Oh, you should.

• 2:20:57Speaker 00

  Shane's gonna attempt, Shane's gonna attempt the hardest thing that's ever been done in sports. He's gonna rebuild a football franchise on one wide receiver.

• 2:21:05Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:21:07Speaker 05

  Yeah. I mean, actually the way the Chargers are is the worst because it seems like every year there's like Super Bowl aspirations and you can't even, you can't even come close.

• 2:21:14Speaker 02

  Do you think that if you had Jeremiah Smith? And like everything else was the same, how many wins would he give you?

• 2:21:22Speaker 00

  Right now, this year.

• 2:21:23Speaker 05

  Is Mike McDaniel calling plays?

• 2:21:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, everything else is the same.

• 2:21:28Speaker 05

  At least one.

• 2:21:30Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:21:30Speaker 05

  At least one, which is.

• 2:21:32Speaker 00

  More.

• 2:21:33Speaker 05

  Which is more than they've had in the last 300 whatever days.

• 2:21:35Speaker 02

  Do you think any of those interceptions would not have been interceptions?

• 2:21:38Speaker 05

  For sure. Quinn Johnston fucking plays like he's five feet tall. Can't fight for anything.

• 2:21:43Speaker 02

  Hate that.

• 2:21:44Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:21:46Speaker 05

  Uh, speaking of delusional, what's up, boys? Can we start talking about the Steelers as the top AFC Super Bowl contender? Defense stops the run completely while giving up no TDs and this rushing offense is top three in the NFL.

• 2:21:58Speaker 00

  I'm, I said it on, uh, Sunday, Jalen Warren and what he does for this offense. And like, I, yeah, I don't think they're the same, I don't think they're the same Steelers as the Mike Tomlin end of last five year Steelers. I think this is a different team.

• 2:22:15Speaker 02

  I would like to revisit this conversation

• 2:22:19Speaker 02

  after Sunday, November 15th.

• 2:22:21Speaker 00

  And obviously they had Jalen Warren on the team for, I mean, this is what, fifth year? But it feels like they're finally using him and they're blocking for him and he's playing really fucking well. He's now the featured back. Like two years ago, he wasn't that. He's, he's awesome.

• 2:22:36Speaker 02

  If that, if that offense, actually no, if that defense can slow down Joe Burrow in the next, I think they have a bye coming up. And then after that, if they can slow Joe Burrow down and Jamar Chase and T. If they can somehow hold them to, if they hold them to 20 points or less, I will be fully in.

• 2:22:51Speaker 00

  But they already beat them.

• 2:22:53Speaker 02

  I know. I'm just saying if they, but if they can hold them to, if the defense can show up again, um, I will fully believe in it. If they get into a shootout with the, with the Bengals, then I'll probably think the same thing about the Steelers, which is probably make the playoffs and probably losing the first round.

• 2:23:08Speaker 00

  I'm, uh, I guess I, PFT and I have done a freaky Friday because I think the Steelers can win a playoff game.

• 2:23:15Speaker 02

  Talk to me after the 15.

• 2:23:17Speaker 00

  We're, we're just, we're just, that might be the, the, it is the true genius of the shows that we just often times will hop off a take and then the other person will take the baton.

• 2:23:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 2:23:26Speaker 00

  And be like, you know what? I'll, let me handle it from here.

• 2:23:28Speaker 02

  What, what would the bracket be right now in the AFC?

• 2:23:31Speaker 00

  Uh, they would definitely be the two, three.

• 2:23:34Speaker 02

  Three seed. Okay.

• 2:23:36Speaker 00

  So they play the Bengals.

• 2:23:38Speaker 02

  All right.

• 2:23:40Speaker 00

  Hey, man, there's a lot of good football teams. There's a lot of good football teams.

• 2:23:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. A lot of good quarterbacks too.

• 2:23:48Speaker 00

  A lot of good football teams, except for the NFC South.

• 2:23:52Speaker 02

  And the NFC East.

• 2:23:54Speaker 00

  I know. I'm going to start respecting the Giants more too.

• 2:23:56Speaker 02

  Good.

• 2:23:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:23:58Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:24:02Speaker 05

  Why does everyone in the media refer to Snoop Tyler Huntley as Snoop? Is there some sort of collusion going on or is that something they're required to call him Snoop?

• 2:24:10Speaker 00

  Required.

• 2:24:10Speaker 05

  Whenever Shefty or Rap tweets about him, they're always calling him Snoop no matter what. I've never seen a player, never mind a backup be referred to as their nickname. It gets shoved down our throats all day long. He stinks too. I mean, that's just not true.

• 2:24:25Speaker 05

  There's lots of nicknames.

• 2:24:26Speaker 00

  I like the nickname Snoop. I don't know.

• 2:24:28Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 2:24:29Speaker 00

  It's fucking cool.

• 2:24:30Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a, it's a good.

• 2:24:31Speaker 05

  This guy's just a Ravens fan.

• 2:24:32Speaker 02

  I mean, Matty Ice, everyone called him Matty Ice, but I guess he was a starter. He was pretty good. MVP.

• 2:24:38Speaker 00

  It is a little weird. All right. I'll, I'll kind of agree with him. It is a little weird that Shefty and Rapport throw in Snoop with the quotes.

• 2:24:47Speaker 02

  Let's see, who's his agent?

• 2:24:49Speaker 00

  Like, that doesn't make sense. They don't do that with anyone else, right?

• 2:24:53Speaker 05

  They might.

• 2:24:56Speaker 02

  That's why you have an agent, maybe. I bet, I bet his agent has made that request from Rap Sheet and Shefter. You will refer to my client as Snoop. In exchange, I will give you all Snoop related transactions.

• 2:25:07Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:25:07Speaker 02

  And Lamar doesn't have an agent. It's his mom, right?

• 2:25:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:10Speaker 02

  So if Lamar had an agent, then he would probably get called by whatever his nickname was.

• 2:25:14Speaker 00

  You're right.

• 2:25:15Speaker 02

  Assuming that he has one.

• 2:25:16Speaker 00

  You're right. Okay.

• 2:25:18Speaker 02

  I'm looking up Lamar Jackson nicknames right now. Uh, the Google AI results are The Eraser.

• 2:25:24Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:25:25Speaker 02

  La Marvelous. And L Freaky.

• 2:25:28Speaker 00

  L Freaky?

• 2:25:29Speaker 02

  Yeah. Can you imagine? Like Shefter should have to start calling him L Freaky. L Freaky out with mystery ankle disease.

• 2:25:38Speaker 00

  L Freaky?

• 2:25:39Speaker 02

  L Freaky out with undisclosed stomach.

• 2:25:42Speaker 00

  L Freaky. Snoop, Snoop Huntley was called because he was skinny with a lot of hair in high school and his high school coach started calling him Snoop. That makes sense.

• 2:25:53Speaker 05

  Hey, father of three, Whizzler, Hanky, Meatball, Lord Farquad and Gruden's guy Zach. Not a football take, but I mean, if I'm paying $20 to just get into a bar, I have stopped tipping if I order a drink in a can or bottle. Just ridiculous.

• 2:26:11Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:26:12Speaker 05

  There's, there're like, actually no, there, there are bars where you are that you don't have to pay a cover for. You can, you're choosing to go to that bar.

• 2:26:21Speaker 02

  And that money is not going to the bartender that you're paying to get in. I, I have, if, if I'm ever elected president, I have a law that I will enact, which is every human being should have to work minimum six months in the service industry.

• 2:26:36Speaker 00

  Agreed.

• 2:26:37Speaker 02

  They should either have to be a server, a bartender, something along those lines.

• 2:26:41Speaker 05

  Like Asia.

• 2:26:42Speaker 02

  What?

• 2:26:42Speaker 05

  Like Asia.

• 2:26:43Speaker 02

  Yeah. Is it, do you have to do that?

• 2:26:45Speaker 00

  Military he's talking about. Cause, cause Tom Kim.

• 2:26:47Speaker 02

  Yeah, he knows that. It's golf.

• 2:26:50Speaker 00

  Golf.

• 2:26:50Speaker 02

  Also, yeah.

• 2:26:52Speaker 05

  You made that connection. That had nothing to do with what I was talking about.

• 2:26:55Speaker 00

  How did you know about that?

• 2:26:57Speaker 02

  I'm a world renowned.

• 2:26:58Speaker 05

  No, you educated first.

• 2:26:59Speaker 02

  Because there's a much more famous example of that. Military conscription would be, like Israel's the one that everybody's talked about.

• 2:27:07Speaker 00

  How would you know?

• 2:27:08Speaker 02

  I know that because of Tom Kim making that putt.

• 2:27:11Speaker 00

  And it's so perfect because you said Asia. You didn't even say South Korea. You said Asia.

• 2:27:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. You only know that because of golf.

• 2:27:18Speaker 00

  No. Tom Kim, yes. It literally happened. It happened like a month ago.

• 2:27:23Speaker 05

  Oh, it did? I didn't even know that.

• 2:27:26Speaker 02

  I think we talked about it on this podcast.

• 2:27:29Speaker 00

  I know your brain better than you.

• 2:27:30Speaker 05

  Zach brought it up on this podcast, not me. Fact or fiction?

• 2:27:34Speaker 00

  Okay. What were you saying?

• 2:27:35Speaker 02

  I don't even know.

• 2:27:36Speaker 00

  I don't either.

• 2:27:37Speaker 02

  What were you? Oh yeah. You know, no, after, after everyone graduates high school, you should have to work in the service. You should have to be a waiter, a server, a bartender, a hostess, host, whatever. You should have to work.

• 2:27:47Speaker 00

  Caterer. I was a caterer for a year. It sucked.

• 2:27:49Speaker 02

  You should have to work in some sort of service environment where you have to interact with people in the public and they come in, they order shit from you. You have to bring them stuff. You wait on them. They tip you out, all that stuff. It gives you very valuable perspective on the rest of your life moving forward. It, it will make you look at pretty much every interaction that you have at a restaurant differently.

• 2:28:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:28:11Speaker 02

  And it makes you, I think, a better person.

• 2:28:12Speaker 00

  A hundred percent. There's no, I, I cannot stand people who are mean to, uh, any type of waitstaff. It's like, just, you're just the lowest of low when you do that. But yeah, this person like just, what? Still tip the bartender.

• 2:28:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:28:28Speaker 00

  It's also so easy to tip a bartender a dollar for opening up a can of beer. It's not, I'm not saying if tip $5, cause I, I agree. It's not like they made you like, you know, like 10 elaborate drinks, but throw them.

• 2:28:41Speaker 05

  I do dollar, dollar, but if you order five beers, it's $5.

• 2:28:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. But also you know what happens when you tip, especially the first beer, you'll get better service.

• 2:28:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. It works out for everybody.

• 2:28:52Speaker 00

  I always tip the, the first, the first round, you always over tip. Cause then it's like, hey, when you want another beer, they'll look and be like, oh, that person is nice.

• 2:29:00Speaker 02

  Now I do agree that, that Americans are, were over tipped sometimes.

• 2:29:03Speaker 00

  Well, that's the electronic, electronic tip.

• 2:29:06Speaker 02

  You grow into a bodega or a convenience store and you order, I don't know, like you go up to the counter with, uh, uh, Pepsi and like a bag of combos and the option is right in front of you. Do you want to tip this guy a dollar? And you're like, wait, I never had to tip this person before.

• 2:29:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:29:22Speaker 02

  I understand that. Like we, you are asked to tip more than you've ever been asked to tip, but if it's a restaurant, you got it. You got to be on your Ps and Qs.

• 2:29:29Speaker 00

  The, I, I almost automatically always tip like 25, 20% is the bare minimum. But the, when the, when the auto thing pops up and it starts at 20%, that's just a slow. Like I already was going to do it, but just throw in the option for 18.

• 2:29:45Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:29:46Speaker 00

  Just do it. Like just that, that, that's just out of respect. I'm always going to pick the, the middle or the high one, but you gotta throw in something higher or, or lower than 20.

• 2:29:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:29:55Speaker 00

  When it's 20, I, I've seen, the other day I was, I was getting a coffee. It was 20, 25, 30.

• 2:30:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:30:01Speaker 00

  Like what?

• 2:30:02Speaker 02

  You have seen that?

• 2:30:03Speaker 00

  You can't do that.

• 2:30:04Speaker 02

  I am going to go for the high, but there's a lot of people that, that don't like, they want to go out to a bar. They want to tip, they don't want to tip 25, 30%.

• 2:30:11Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:30:12Speaker 02

  And that's fine.

• 2:30:12Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:30:13Speaker 02

  You shouldn't be expected to.

• 2:30:14Speaker 00

  No. No, if you get good service, tip. Okay. Good show. Everyone, everyone good?

• 2:30:21Speaker 02

  Everyone's good. I disagree with PFD's take though.

• 2:30:23Speaker 00

  Why?

• 2:30:24Speaker 02

  I hate people now.

• 2:30:26Speaker 00

  Oh, because of working in the service industry?

• 2:30:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, it's true. It is a double, double. You get some more stories from it and it's not fun. It makes you turn on the public a little bit, but it also makes you more empathetic towards other people that work in the service industry. Yeah. When you, when you go out to eat. Yes. Correct. Yeah. But you're, you're right. Cause there are some real freaks out there. The worst. L Freako.

• 2:30:47Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Oh yeah.

• 2:30:49Speaker 02

  Especially the picky ones?

• 2:30:51Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. Not, not me. I ain't picky about anything.

• 2:30:55Speaker 02

  It's.

• 2:30:56Speaker 00

  I realize the only thing I'm picky about is, is desserts, which is so fat to be like, I don't really like cheesecake. That's my, that's my pickiness. Every, every other food I will eat no matter what.

• 2:31:07Speaker 02

  My pickiness is, uh, I ask if they do like a house made Bloody Mary mix. If they say yes, I'm like, no thanks. So.

• 2:31:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:31:15Speaker 02

  Cause I like Zing Zing. I know what I like. It's the best.

• 2:31:18Speaker 00

  All right. Numbers.

• 2:31:21Speaker 02

  Four. You can go with eight. Give me a 37.

• 2:31:25Speaker 00

  I'll go with three if memes doesn't want to do it.

• 2:31:27Speaker 02

  Go ahead, buddy.

• 2:31:29Speaker 00

  Hey, I will pal.

• 2:31:31Speaker 05

  I'll go 10.

• 2:31:38Speaker 02

  I worked at the Cheesecake Factory. Never had cheesecake. Speaking of that.

• 2:31:41Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:31:42Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:31:44Speaker 02

  It's crazy. That is kind of nuts. Was it free? Yeah. And you never took advantage? No.

• 2:31:51Speaker 02

  Bad move on my part.

• 2:32:11Speaker 00

  88. Let's do finer. 88. No? No one?

• 2:32:18Speaker 00

  Is that your number?

• 2:32:19Speaker 02

  Eight. Doesn't matter.

• 2:32:40Speaker 02

  Come on.

• 2:32:44Speaker 00

  97. Nothing?

• 2:32:47Speaker 02

  Uh, just one slight correction. It was not Tate's birthday on Wednesday or Tuesday, excuse me, on Tuesday, as originally reported. Uh, that's hand up. My mistake on that one. His birthday is in fact in January, I believe January 16th. So happy birthday in advance to Tate. There's another person by the name of Tate Frazier.

• 2:33:09Speaker 00

  That's not his last.

• 2:33:10Speaker 02

  Oh, not, what's his, what's his last name?

• 2:33:11Speaker 00

  That's where you fucked up.

• 2:33:13Speaker 02

  Who the fuck is Tate Frazier? Wait, Tate Frazier's?

• 2:33:15Speaker 00

  Tate is Titus's old co-host.

• 2:33:19Speaker 00

  That's, that's definitely, was it Tate Frazier's birthday yesterday?

• 2:33:22Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:33:23Speaker 00

  Ah, I feel like it was.

• 2:33:25Speaker 02

  No.

• 2:33:25Speaker 00

  I feel like it was.

• 2:33:27Speaker 02

  It was. I just got last names mixed up. Um, it was, I thought that it was Ohio's Tate birthday yesterday. It is the 16th. I don't think it's Tate Frazier's birthday. Is it? A birthday Tate Frazier? What if it was? No, it's not. It's March.

• 2:33:38Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:33:38Speaker 02

  So yeah, one minor mistake.

• 2:33:40Speaker 05

  Who knows?

• 2:33:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. I make a, I make a minor mistake. Uh, we don't talk about other ones that I absolutely nail. Happy birthday to Dez Bryant, Jared verse, Devin Hester, Tyrese Maxey, Leader.

• 2:33:50Speaker 00

  Leader.

• 2:33:51Speaker 02

  Happy birthday to Matthew McConaughey. Happy birthday on Thursday to Bill Walton. Happy birthday to Odell Beckham, Jason Kelsey, Todd Collins, Johnny Damon, OJ Mayo, Jerry Stackhouse and Kris Jenner on Thursday. Love you guys. And then we have a very special birthday come on Friday. Whoa. Very special birthday.

• 2:34:10Speaker 00

  Teasing birthdays now?

• 2:34:12Speaker 02

  I like that. Very special. Love the browsing out right.

• 2:36:18Speaker 02

  We're gonna get right back to the show.

• 2:36:20Speaker 00

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