Derek Carr, Oklahoma State HC Eric Morris, The Chiefs Are Back, CFB Recap + Listener Submitted Takes

The Chiefs are back and Kenneth Walker looked incredible Monday night. Mahomes has a rushing attack and the Broncos looked broken (00:00:00-00:23:22). We clean up some stories from Sunday and then talk Texas/Ohio State, Michigan bounce back and Oregon’s spiral (00:23:22-00:47:42). Hot Seat/Cool Throne including some idiot jazz on pro Boat racing and AI (00:47:42-01:13:38). Derek Carr joins the show to talk Week 1 in the NFL, what he saw that stood out, quarterbacks playing under center more and hitting a hole in one with no witnesses (01:13:38-01:50:56). Oklahoma State Head Coach Eric Morris joins the show to talk about his massive win against Oregon and hunting Armadillos (01:50:56-02:11:58). We finish with listener Pardon Your Takes You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, September 16th, and the Kansas City Chiefs are back. Cause Monday Night Football, that was a showing in brutality by the Kansas City Chiefs in the way they ran the ball down the Broncos throat. Broncos, one of the worst tackling performances, I think, ever.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  It was definitely the worst of week one.

• 3:18Speaker 00

  It looked like, PFT, it looked like a college football game in that there were two times, and there might've been more, but two times it stuck out in my head. The Kenneth Walker touchdown run from midfield where there wasn't a Bronco in sight. They looked like they went field goal block on that play and he bounced it outside. And then the Travis Kelsey catch and run where there wasn't a Bronco in frame. It was, it looked like a college football game. We were like, wait, there's supposed to be a safety there. What's happening?

• 3:47Speaker 02

  So I know the popular take today is why did we forget about the Chiefs?

• 3:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:52Speaker 02

  And I kind of agree with that a little bit. I actually don't think that the Chiefs are near close to what they're going to be at the end of the season.

• 3:58Speaker 00

  Definitely not.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  I think they're going to get a lot better from this point on. I don't know that they're a great team right now. I think the Broncos might be kind of broken.

• 4:05Speaker 00

  The, so the scariest thing, and I want to talk about the Broncos, scariest thing about last night, if you are someone who's scared of the Chiefs or like, oh man, the Chiefs, like maybe they've reached their downturn is the fact that that run game, we have not seen a run game from the Chiefs like that since maybe what first year of Kareem Hunt? Like it's been a long time. People were saying Jamal Charles, like it has been a long time and Patrick Mahomes was not, he's clearly still coming back from injury. But him not having to be Superman and having a run game like that essentially gives him the perfect on ramp to get back into the flow and be playing his best football at the end of the season where he doesn't have to do everything.

• 4:48Speaker 00

  Because that has been for, you know, the first Chiefs, the first couple of Chiefs like runs, you know, they had the outside weapons, Tyree Kill. They were able to do dynamic things. Travis Kelsey was younger. The last couple of years of the Chiefs, it was a lot of Patrick Mahomes being Superman and figuring out a way to make plays with no run game with not the most explosive wide receivers and him just putting the whole team on his back. Now he can just hand the ball off to Kenneth Walker and they could just run it down your throat and he doesn't have to worry about making like, like constant plays to get the Chiefs out of holes.

• 5:22Speaker 02

  I think he will, and he'll get back to that.

• 5:24Speaker 00

  I will, I do too.

• 5:24Speaker 02

  I think that right now what, what they're doing is like, that was, it was a great game plan they had in place. Kenneth Walker is a really, really good running back. And I've always thought like they're, they had him and Sharber Day splitting carries in Seattle, which can be a really good thing, keep both guys fresh. But I think that it's really tough on a running back to get into a real rhythm if they have to come off every series, let the other guy step on the field. And it's like, yeah, it's the rhythm of like getting used to where your blockers are going to be, all that stuff. But I was talking to Arian about this yesterday and he was saying that maybe the most important part, why he never liked coming off the field for a series is you never feel like your job is totally safe. So you never feel like you're free to kind of be yourself and free to take chances in the running game. Like you're thinking I'm one fumble away.

• 6:08Speaker 00

  Right.

• 6:09Speaker 02

  From getting benched. And that can, that can have a real negative effect on a running back. I think now that he's the guy, he's going to get even better. And I looked up his stats when he was in, in Seattle and his yard, he, I think averaged more than half a yard per carry more in games when he got more than 20 carries than when he got less or fewer than 20 carries.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  Right.

• 6:27Speaker 02

  Like getting in that rhythm is going to be awesome for him. He's a really, really good running back. The Chiefs window, I like, I don't think we ever actually closed the Chiefs window.

• 6:35Speaker 00

  No, I didn't.

• 6:36Speaker 02

  I think, I think Mahomes was just in bed because he was injured far away from the window.

• 6:41Speaker 00

  They had a year from hell last year.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  They had a year from hell. And even before, like the year before, they won a lot of lucky games, but we still said like, it doesn't matter that the Chiefs, they'll be fine. It's like Patrick Mahomes gets injured for, for eight weeks. And we're like, well, the Chiefs are fucked.

• 6:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 6:55Speaker 02

  Will they ever be the same again?

• 6:56Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 6:57Speaker 02

  Good dynasties find a way to reinvent themselves, Hank.

• 7:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 7:00Speaker 02

  Facts. You know that. So this might be, this just might, might be the start of the next era where they've got a beast at running back now. They can lean on him a little bit and then open up to play action game and Mahomes is going to be great. By the end of the season.

• 7:12Speaker 00

  And Rashi Rice.

• 7:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. And Rice, yeah. By the end of the season, Mahomes is going to be back to being Mahomes.

• 7:17Speaker 00

  And the scariest part though, is the Chiefs are one of those teams that they know how to play with a lead and they know, like you saw it even before they had a running game. The Chiefs were one of those teams that they were like an auto bet to the under if they had a first half lead where they just take the air out of the ball. They shorten the game. They, their, their pass rush can get home. They're built perfectly for Kenneth Walker to be an absolute monster. And then Patrick Mahomes again, to, to get healthy and be all the way back.

• 7:45Speaker 02

  They stopped the shit out of the Broncos and Mahomes was the only quarterback in the league that did not throw a pass longer than 10 yards down.

• 7:51Speaker 00

  Longer than 10 yards. Here, here's a crazy.

• 7:53Speaker 02

  Complete a pass.

• 7:54Speaker 00

  Here's a crazy stat that, that's good for our guy Shane. Justin Herbert leads the AFC West in passing yards.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  That's good.

• 8:01Speaker 00

  Good for him. Through one week, through one week.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what, that first, the first run that Mahomes had for the touchdown, it was, because I told you this big cat going into the game last night, I said, I don't necessarily love the Chiefs right now because I don't know that Mahomes is going to be healthy. I think he's healthy.

• 8:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:16Speaker 02

  He was fast as shit.

• 8:17Speaker 00

  His timing is a little off with the passes, but it doesn't matter. It's like the knee looks fine.

• 8:21Speaker 02

  The knee's fine.

• 8:22Speaker 00

  You would have been concerned if Mahomes was scared to run.

• 8:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 8:25Speaker 00

  But he clearly wasn't. And I don't know about you guys, but I feel like Arrowhead was louder than it's ever been. I, maybe that was just to tell the, the broadcast, but I, and maybe I just forgot how loud Arrowhead can get, but it was fucking loud.

• 8:39Speaker 03

  I mean, memes went and saw it in person, but when we finished the show on Sunday night, I saw a video of like a long ass line of people like getting ready to tailgate for Monday. This was like more than 24 hours before the game.

• 8:54Speaker 00

  Yeah. They were so, so loud.

• 8:57Speaker 02

  Yeah. So, so it was, um, Mahomes is now 14 and two against the Broncos and undefeated against the Broncos at Arrowhead. So I don't.

• 9:06Speaker 00

  And I think the, are the two losses, so one loss was last, was, no, that wasn't last year.

• 9:11Speaker 02

  Was one on Christmas?

• 9:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. He, was one of the games when he broke his kneecap? It might've been. That was in Denver.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  It might've been. He's, he's owned, he's owned the Broncos.

• 9:20Speaker 00

  Yeah. Chris Oladukun did not beat the Broncos last year in, in Arrowhead.

• 9:23Speaker 02

  No, no, he's, he's owned the Broncos and I, I'm, I think the Broncos are kind of broken right now. I think they, they'll probably get back to where they need to be. The defense looks like shit without Cooper.

• 9:33Speaker 00

  28 missed tackles, 28 missed tackles. All right. What are the other two names?

• 9:39Speaker 02

  That's USC stats.

• 9:40Speaker 00

  Loss, okay. Oh no. So those weren't, no, no, that was, okay. So that wasn't the broken kneecap. 2023 and 2025, he lost in, in Denver. So that's pretty recent, but yeah, 28 missed tackles. It was, uh, it was shocking to watch them just like bounce off guys. And the bigger concern, because I do think their defense will figure it out, but Bo Nix looked bad.

• 10:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:04Speaker 00

  Real, real bad. And I don't know if this is a, like, it's great. Sean Payton gave play calling duty away.

• 10:12Speaker 02

  Is it? Why?

• 10:13Speaker 00

  No, I'm saying I'm, it's great that he's giving guys like a chance. It's not great for the Bronco. I feel like he needs to take it back. That was the third fewest yards in a Sean Payton coached game for his team ever. The other two were in 2021, when I think it was Jameis, like week two. And then later in the season, I think it was Trevor Simeon or Taysom Hill quarterbacking. So.

• 10:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:40Speaker 00

  That's, I mean, they added Jalen Waddle. They, it just Bo Nix looked, he just looked tentative and I don't know.

• 10:46Speaker 02

  Jalen Waddle was useless. Sean Payton, maybe, maybe bad husband of the year? If we, if we're going to do that in a takey?

• 10:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 10:53Speaker 02

  Yeah. He told his wife, draft Jalen Waddle in fantasy.

• 10:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, really shitty.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  And then how many catches did he have last night?

• 10:58Speaker 00

  I remember one.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  One catch, two yards, I believe. Bad husband.

• 11:03Speaker 00

  I uh.

• 11:04Speaker 02

  Bring home flowers, Sean.

• 11:05Speaker 00

  I mistakenly, last night, I like, I'm trying to watch more games to my son and I said, you could stay up until they score again when it was seven, seven. And so then we just had to go all the way through halftime. It's like, I swear they usually do score, but then we keyed in on Waddle. I was like, root for number 17 to get a catch. Just didn't happen.

• 11:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:26Speaker 00

  Didn't happen.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, the Broncos, their defense looked like underdog shit. They can't tackle to save their life. I think that when it comes to Sean Payton and, uh, and the play calling, he had to know going into the season that if you make this decision, the first thing people are going to want to change, if things go wrong at all, is for you to take it back.

• 11:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  He's, he's one of the best play callers of all time and he gives it to, uh, an offense coordinator that's young and probably pretty smart, probably pretty talented. But like, if things aren't going well, you have a very easy solution right in front of you. Although I guess Sean Payton.

• 11:57Speaker 00

  He's got the button. They said that he's gotta stop himself from hitting the button.

• 12:00Speaker 02

  His answer might just be, let's get Peyton Hillis here.

• 12:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:04Speaker 02

  Or no, Taysom Hill. Taysom Hill, the other guy. Yeah, let's get, just mix in a little bit of Taysom Hill into the ingredients and, uh, and that'll solve everything. Bo Nix, if, if I'm going to say one good thing about Bo Nix starting slow, Bo Nix has been, Bo Nix has been doubted before. I'll put it that way. Bo Nix has had some pretty bad football games.

• 12:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, I mean.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  And he typically bounces back from.

• 12:23Speaker 00

  He is also coming off an injury, like both quarterbacks coming off an injury. I, I, I didn't love Bo Nix like yucking it up. He was smiling. You know, couldn't believe his life when they were getting just the shit kicked out of them in the third quarter. But I guess it's week one. I, so the Broncos have coming up, they have Jacksonville at home, which playing in, uh, Denver, early in the season, September, when it's hot, that is a very tough place to play, but they play Jacksonville, the Rams, the Niners, the Chargers, the Seahawks. That's their next five games. That's like, that's why, and we're going to talk about it with Derek Carr, like the urgency that happens in the NFL after one week is in,

• 13:03Speaker 00

  it's unlike any other league where you can, you have a game and you're just like, all right, if we lose two in a row, if we lose the first two games, the odds are we're going to be in a big hole trying to chase this for the rest of the year.

• 13:14Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. Did you see that, um, the weird touchdown play call that they had and, and Kenneth Walker was like, Andy Reid had us watching film from the 1900s. It was probably like 1999, but it was, it was like a single wing play where they, it was like, you know, the Chiefs like to get cute inside the five yard line.

• 13:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  And Andy likes to unveil something. So, uh, Kenneth was saying that it was hard to, to figure out the play and understand where it was going because it wasn't in HD. So it was hard to keep track of it. Now it turns out that that play call was given to Andy Reid by Chris Berman.

• 13:43Speaker 00

  Oh, love it.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Boomer told him, like, hey, you might, Andy, I know you like to run these, these whack shit plays down close to the goal line. Take a look at the single wing shit that nobody has looked at since like the 1970s. Um, so I, I like that for, for Boom. I do. I, again, I'm, I'm a little concerned that he's, uh, he's giving aid and comfort to the Chiefs when this is supposed to be him getting the Bills to the Super Bowl.

• 14:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, it feels like.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Button that shit up, but that probably means that he's probably talking to Joe Brady too.

• 14:10Speaker 00

  And he also probably knows that like, we don't have to worry about them. Maybe, maybe he's so confident in the Bills.

• 14:16Speaker 02

  Like burn all the good plays early in the season.

• 14:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:19Speaker 02

  Maybe if he's that close to Andy Reid, he can actually feed intel to Jim Leonard behind the scenes about what Andy's going to do.

• 14:26Speaker 00

  That's not a bad idea. Do you guys, uh, did you guys see, this is, and I know preseason rankings, we're, we're past, uh, getting upset about them. But, uh.

• 14:35Speaker 02

  I'm not.

• 14:36Speaker 00

  Okay. Here's one to get upset about.

• 14:38Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:38Speaker 00

  Where do you think Bo Nix was ranked in the top 100, uh, NFL players going into this season?

• 14:44Speaker 02

  By the other players or by?

• 14:45Speaker 00

  I think this was the.

• 14:46Speaker 02

  By Sean Payton.

• 14:47Speaker 00

  I think this is the NFL.com one, uh, NFL top 100 voted on by the players themselves.

• 14:52Speaker 02

  Bo Nix was ranked 80.

• 14:55Speaker 00

  Bo Nix was ranked 59th.

• 14:56Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:57Speaker 00

  Where do you think Lamar Jackson was ranked?

• 15:00Speaker 03

  He was not ranked.

• 15:01Speaker 00

  He was ranked.

• 15:01Speaker 03

  Oh, he was. I thought.

• 15:04Speaker 00

  He was ranked 69th. Wow. Would anyone take Bo Nix over Lamar Jackson right now?

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Dodington Bones?

• 15:11Speaker 00

  Dodington Bones.

• 15:15Speaker 03

  I mean, we saw, there's probably some. I, I wouldn't, but there's probably, I'm just wondering if there's like an analytics guy that would just because of age.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  Well, I'm thinking like sabermetrically.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  And like.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Bo Nix.

• 15:27Speaker 03

  Yeah, I guess not contract. He's going to get a shit ton of money too.

• 15:30Speaker 02

  Bo Nix was in the Heisman conversation for like three seasons. Lamar was only in for one.

• 15:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 15:35Speaker 02

  So.

• 15:36Speaker 00

  Now Lamar did win one.

• 15:37Speaker 02

  True.

• 15:37Speaker 00

  But where would you, all right, rank these, marry, fuck, kill. Hank, you ready? Bo Nix, Lamar Jackson, Cooper Rush.

• 15:50Speaker 03

  I would marry Lamar Jackson.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm. For his money?

• 15:54Speaker 03

  Fuck Cooper Rush, kill Bo Nix.

• 15:59Speaker 02

  Dude, you, Bo Nix would kill you in a, in a half second if you even tried.

• 16:03Speaker 00

  Does Cooper Rush win that game for the Broncos?

• 16:05Speaker 03

  He might.

• 16:08Speaker 02

  I think if.

• 16:08Speaker 03

  I saw he got ranked 30th, uh, and like of all the quarterbacks in week one.

• 16:13Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:13Speaker 03

  Listen, I was watching, I was watching with my heart, not with, you know, analytical eyes, I guess.

• 16:17Speaker 00

  I agree. That's why we're not, listen, this podcast is not meant.

• 16:21Speaker 03

  I was trying to will a game to victory.

• 16:22Speaker 00

  Expert opinions.

• 16:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, we gotta, we gotta come up with a, some sort of like our own stat for a Cooper Rush adjacent quarterback and what you expect out of that person compared to what you get because we, it didn't look as bad when Cooper Rush did it.

• 16:36Speaker 00

  Right.

• 16:36Speaker 02

  As it would if Bo Nix had done that same. It's like Cooper Rush adjacent players, crap, the crap metric.

• 16:41Speaker 00

  It, it's the meme. It's the, it's the like, uh, Justin Herbert, you know, two picks, I think he had or whatever, like 150 yards. Call human resources, Cooper Rush, two picks, 150 yards. Ooh, I'm in love.

• 16:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. What is the one with Gordon Ramsey? You idiot, idiot sandwich or something?

• 17:00Speaker 03

  What are you?

• 17:00Speaker 04

  No, you donkey.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  You donkey, absolutely donkey.

• 17:02Speaker 00

  Memes, I know you pretty well. Uh, how many power rankings did you look at today?

• 17:08Speaker 04

  I made my own.

• 17:09Speaker 00

  No, but how many power rankings did you look at today?

• 17:12Speaker 04

  I looked at Florio's. I looked at yours.

• 17:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:15Speaker 04

  Uh, I looked at some other guy.

• 17:18Speaker 00

  Were you triggered by any?

• 17:19Speaker 04

  I was triggered by one.

• 17:20Speaker 00

  I did do my power rankings and you did corrupt the software and I put the Jets ahead of any other O and one team because you were kind of right. Like, what's the point? It's one week. I, I looked at some power rankings last night and I saw the Rams at like three and I was like, come on. We can't have an O and one team at three. That's crazy.

• 17:39Speaker 04

  People look at preseason rankings and last season into theirs when there's only a sample size of one and that's how you have to base it off of.

• 17:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 17:47Speaker 00

  All right, Jets 24.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  Jets 24, there we go. What, what?

• 17:50Speaker 00

  Commies 25. I think that's NFL.com.

• 17:53Speaker 02

  So the, the commanders moved up from 31 to 25.

• 17:58Speaker 00

  That's pretty good in a loss.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  Love that. That, that actually might be the best loss of the week.

• 18:01Speaker 03

  Moved up to 20, 25 from 31.

• 18:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:04Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's good in a loss.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  I don't think I did.

• 18:08Speaker 00

  Don't gaslight him.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, you're gaslighting me right now, Max.

• 18:10Speaker 00

  What are you doing, Max?

• 18:11Speaker 03

  I'm not.

• 18:12Speaker 00

  You, it sounds like you're gaslighting.

• 18:14Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 18:14Speaker 02

  I, by the way.

• 18:15Speaker 03

  I just wanted to.

• 18:16Speaker 02

  I went back, I watched the all 22.

• 18:18Speaker 00

  Of?

• 18:19Speaker 02

  Of the commanders.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  Oh, I thought maybe of like our gambling cave.

• 18:22Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 18:22Speaker 00

  That would've been funny, be like, I actually didn't say.

• 18:24Speaker 03

  Are we going to talk about that clip where it's like a bunch of Jane Daniels routine throws?

• 18:28Speaker 02

  I was just going to say they were all very average throws. Nothing to get excited about. I'm not going to be excited anymore.

• 18:34Speaker 00

  He should, he should make those throws.

• 18:36Speaker 02

  Shame on me. Shame, yeah. You're a professional quarterback.

• 18:38Speaker 00

  Make those throws.

• 18:39Speaker 02

  You should make those throws.

• 18:40Speaker 00

  Make those throws. Okay. What other, uh, cleanup stuff from week one do we have? How's everyone feeling? It's.

• 18:46Speaker 03

  The AFC is absolutely stacked.

• 18:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:48Speaker 03

  That was my biggest takeaway watching last night.

• 18:50Speaker 00

  The AFC is all the way back. Last year was the year with Mahomes hurt with, you know, Burrow in and out and they missed the playoffs, Lamar missing the playoffs. You know, Josh Allen at the end of the rope with Sean McDermott. That was your year.

• 19:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, Mahomes is like, he's the biggest winner of the, in the entire conference. He's won three times. Joe Burrow's made it to the championship. Lamar Jackson's won multiple MVPs, been to the AFC championship a bunch. And then Josh Allen's the best quarterback probably right now out of all of them.

• 19:19Speaker 02

  Mm-hmm.

• 19:21Speaker 00

  Oh, and, and by the way.

• 19:22Speaker 03

  And Justin Herbert.

• 19:23Speaker 00

  And we're not even mentioning a team that's won nine in a row in the regular season, the Jacksonville Jaguars.

• 19:28Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:28Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 19:29Speaker 03

  No, the AFC is, is, is stacked. That, that, watching that last night, I was just like, fuck.

• 19:34Speaker 02

  That, that one throw that Trevor Lawrence had in between four Browns.

• 19:38Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:38Speaker 02

  Was just absolutely unreal. It's, it's actually so good that I think it was probably a bad idea to make that throw.

• 19:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:44Speaker 02

  It was such a, I, I like that there's so many other people out there just besides like the handful of original accounts that, that will break down film. Because you get to see all the homers find the best throws that their guys make. So there's a lot of like pro every quarterback propaganda if you dig deep enough out there.

• 19:59Speaker 00

  Yeah, the tape, Tom Monkin found the Deshaun Watson tape.

• 20:02Speaker 02

  He found it. Yeah. He found it. There's some things that he could really enjoy about that. I liked the 13 step drop that he had.

• 20:07Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 20:07Speaker 02

  And then got sacked and then got mad at his offensive line. That was good. Oh, one other thing about Monday night football. Um, actually I guess it's two. One thing that was announced to us before the game started, Drew Brees.

• 20:18Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 20:18Speaker 02

  That he was in touch with Sean Payton and thought about coming back to play for the Broncos before the AFC championship game last year. I'm sick of this trend. I fucking hate it. I can't stand it. When, when Kyle Shanahan was like, yeah, we almost had Philip Rivers play for us if we were going to beat the Eagles and get to the Super Bowl. Like fuck that. I don't want to know. I don't want to, I don't want to like have to think about what we missed out on because it would have been awesome. And now I just feel like there's a giant hole in my life where Drew Brees beating the Patriots in the AFC championship game should have been.

• 20:48Speaker 00

  Well, it, it's also, it's bullshit to say, like, at least Phil Rivers was about that life. Phil Rivers at least like did come out of, off the couch and play. All these other guys, get out of here.

• 20:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 20:59Speaker 00

  Like, don't tell us this after the fact.

• 21:01Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:01Speaker 00

  We don't want to hear it. What are you, what are you highlighting there, Max? Was there something?

• 21:06Speaker 05

  I didn't.

• 21:06Speaker 00

  Oh. Oh, it's just the power rankings. Seahawks vaulted to number one. Seahawks should have been one. A big believer in if you win, you should stay one. Indiana should be number one for that reason.

• 21:16Speaker 02

  There was a, I guess he talked to Ed Werder about it and said that part of it was that he didn't want to have to reset the clock on his Hall of Fame.

• 21:24Speaker 05

  Ah.

• 21:25Speaker 02

  But, but he was assured.

• 21:26Speaker 05

  The weather had to have been a factor.

• 21:27Speaker 02

  It probably, it probably was. But he was, he said that he was assured that it would not affect his Hall of Fame, but it might. And he was like joking about how he was worried about it, but actually not joking.

• 21:37Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 21:37Speaker 02

  So I do think that that had something to do with it. Um, and then the other thing, just, uh, to ESPN and Joe Buck, uh, if you're going to have a B two flyover during the national anthem on Monday night football, can we get a camera at the sky?

• 21:53Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 21:54Speaker 02

  Like a B two bomber?

• 21:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  It costs, I'm, I'm guessing it probably costs the taxpayers a couple hundred thousand dollars to have that bomber fly over the stadium.

• 22:02Speaker 00

  Is that the stealth bomber?

• 22:04Speaker 02

  That's a stealth bomber.

• 22:04Speaker 00

  They are in, I think they, they're stationed in Missouri.

• 22:07Speaker 02

  Oh, so, okay. So it's probably, let's, let's call it seventy five thousand dollars.

• 22:11Speaker 00

  I read that article. It's not a, it's not cool because war is not cool. We're, we, we don't want people dying. But the stealth bomber that went from Missouri all the way to Iran and back without ever landing. And like their whole, like their process of that is fucking ridiculous to hear.

• 22:29Speaker 02

  It is crazy.

• 22:30Speaker 00

  Just nuts.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  The midair refueling.

• 22:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, but they put them in the middle of the country because they're so expensive and so important.

• 22:35Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 22:35Speaker 00

  So, yeah.

• 22:36Speaker 02

  And we can't get a camera pointed up at the sky.

• 22:39Speaker 00

  There's one.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  It, it makes.

• 22:40Speaker 00

  B two stealth bomber.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  It makes, yep, nailed it.

• 22:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:43Speaker 02

  It makes you wonder what else ESPN is hiding because that was. We had, we had to, we had to see it in the background on the scoreboard. We couldn't see it on our TVs.

• 22:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 22:51Speaker 02

  You have one job.

• 22:52Speaker 00

  It's sad.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  I personally blame Joe Buck.

• 22:54Speaker 00

  It's kind of, it, it's sad that Arrowhead's like closing. Why are we, it just bums me out again. Why can't we have more stadiums like be updated and stay where they are?

• 23:06Speaker 05

  Taxes. Do I have permission to ask a stupid question?

• 23:08Speaker 00

  Please, always.

• 23:11Speaker 05

  What does keeping it in the middle of the country have to do with keeping it safe?

• 23:15Speaker 02

  Protected from.

• 23:16Speaker 00

  Because it's very hard for someone else to get into our air, like our, like if it was on the coast.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  So.

• 23:22Speaker 00

  Could theoretically attack it.

• 23:25Speaker 05

  Get like shot down?

• 23:26Speaker 00

  Florida. No, no, like the base.

• 23:29Speaker 05

  Oh, the bait. Got it, got it, got it, got it.

• 23:30Speaker 00

  All the B twos in the middle of the country.

• 23:32Speaker 02

  I'll put it this way, Max. If you go to the grocery store and they keep all the ice cream in the middle of the store, fewer people would buy ice cream.

• 23:40Speaker 05

  And it's harder to steal the things that are in the middle because you have to go, got it.

• 23:44Speaker 00

  Let me, let me give it even an analogy that is, uh, is real world for us. We keep now the food farther away from us. It's safer from us and farther away it is.

• 23:54Speaker 05

  Thank you for letting me ask a stupid question.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  It's a lot of airspace that we have to, we have to cover if we want some chips.

• 23:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. What, Whitman, uh, Air Force Base in Missouri is home to all the entire operational fleet of the B two stealth bomber. It's pretty badass. Not, uh, Nob Noster, Missouri, which is, I assume, pretty damn close to the middle of the country. I think the mid, the actual middle is somewhere in Nebraska.

• 24:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:18Speaker 00

  So, pretty damn close.

• 24:20Speaker 02

  So I guess it probably didn't cost that much money, but still.

• 24:22Speaker 00

  Still, I agree.

• 24:23Speaker 02

  Turn the camera pointed up at the air.

• 24:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:25Speaker 05

  It's a hundred and seventy thousand per flight hour on the B two.

• 24:28Speaker 00

  So that was probably like a thirty minute flight.

• 24:30Speaker 05

  Put low eighty.

• 24:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, do you guys want some stupid stats that mean absolutely nothing, but you're like, you see them, you scroll by them, you're like, oh, that's cool. You get the stats that you can tell someone at the bar, uh, this week and they'll be like, oh shit, you know, ball. First one is the Raiders, Cardinals, Jets and Giants are all one and O for the first time in NFL history.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 24:53Speaker 00

  Raiders, Cardinals, Jets and Giants. All four won their week one game.

• 24:57Speaker 02

  That's pretty crazy.

• 24:58Speaker 00

  Yeah. And then the other one, which is, I, I still don't understand how this is, uh, ever, this has never happened, but it's, it is pretty cool. This is for the first week ever. I think this is ever, not just week one stat. Each team won by a different number of points.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  Yeah. We had a weekend to gummy.

• 25:16Speaker 00

  That's crazy. Yeah, there it is. First sixteen game week in NFL history where the result of every single game had a different point differential.

• 25:25Speaker 02

  That's pretty cool.

• 25:26Speaker 00

  Four got left out. Four is something that should happen.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, four is a football.

• 25:30Speaker 00

  Four got left out big time.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  Uh, I've got.

• 25:33Speaker 00

  Four and eleven got left out.

• 25:34Speaker 02

  I got another stat for you.

• 25:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  Jaguars stat. Liam Cohen has won fourteen games as head coach of the Jaguars. That ties him with Gus Bradley.

• 25:43Speaker 00

  Oh, I love these.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  For fifth most wins by a head coach in franchise history.

• 25:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 25:48Speaker 02

  So, uh, it took Gus Bradley sixty two games to get to fourteen wins, which is, that's, that's honestly sad. That's sad that he was allowed to do that. Mostly for him.

• 25:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:59Speaker 02

  He had to hate going to work by the end of it. Uh, Cohen did it in eighteen games. Gus Bradley again, did it in sixty two games.

• 26:05Speaker 00

  That's quite a stat.

• 26:06Speaker 02

  Good time to be a Jaguars fan.

• 26:08Speaker 00

  Quite a stat. Uh, Landon Dickerson out, Max. That actually was like, for a guy saying he's going to miss some time, that was better news than you'd expect because he's not going to miss the whole season. And he essentially was like, yeah, I was so bad. I'm hurting the team.

• 26:24Speaker 05

  Yeah. You never want to see somebody hurt, but it was like the best, oh, oh yeah, I'm hurt news of all time. Because if that's just like what he was now, the Eagles were fucked.

• 26:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 26:33Speaker 05

  And now it seems like he's going to take as much time as he needs, get back to a hundred percent, try and get back to what he was in, in his prime, or at least close to what he was in his prime. Like apparently like the Eagles offense, offensive line was absolutely horrendous on Sunday. And I'm not one of the tape. I'm not one of PFF grades.

• 26:54Speaker 00

  Well, PFF grades have been getting roasted.

• 26:56Speaker 05

  Roasted.

• 26:57Speaker 00

  Because they had, and I think he played well, but Geno Smith was number one. And Caleb Williams was twenty. Caleb Williams was twentieth.

• 27:07Speaker 05

  Sounds, it sounds like a shot memes.

• 27:09Speaker 00

  No, no.

• 27:10Speaker 05

  Sounds like a shot.

• 27:10Speaker 00

  He's, I said he played well.

• 27:12Speaker 02

  Sounded like a shot.

• 27:13Speaker 00

  Well, Tom, Tom Lay came up to me. He's like, you see Geno Smith, number one, uh, passer rating in, in week one? I was like, no way, dude. And then he pulled it up and it was the PFF grades.

• 27:23Speaker 05

  But what I was saying is that according to the tape, the offensive line, as all, everyone else in the offensive line actually played pretty well on Sunday, but because Dickerson was so, so, so, so bad that it made the entire line like that much worse.

• 27:39Speaker 02

  It brought it down.

• 27:40Speaker 05

  So if we can figure like, it's just one thing that needs to be figured out. And we, we got some young guys who are going to get a shot, who are going to compete out there. And then we'll get Dickerson back after he's fully healthy and the line will be good again.

• 27:52Speaker 02

  You sound like the offensive line coach right now talking to the media.

• 27:56Speaker 05

  We got, that's just, that's just, that's the tale of the tape.

• 27:58Speaker 02

  Really excited to get them in there, get them some experience. That type of stuff's invaluable this time of year.

• 28:03Speaker 05

  I've thought about becoming an all twenty two guy this year. Um, and just for my own personal files.

• 28:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:09Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 28:10Speaker 05

  I want to, I want to make some, make some judgment this year based on, based on my own two eyeballs.

• 28:16Speaker 00

  I would love to see you get into some films.

• 28:18Speaker 05

  See that, I don't think, I don't think I could make, do film breakdowns because I don't really know what I'm talking about.

• 28:24Speaker 00

  No, you'd have to. No, I, I think you should do film breakdowns for the average guy. And be like, hey, look, all right, here we go. They got, uh, two wide receivers and I don't know which way the wide receiver is supposed to go. But then he passed to this tight end. Good play.

• 28:40Speaker 05

  Or like, yeah, our defense, I wouldn't even, I like, I, I don't know anything.

• 28:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 28:44Speaker 05

  I, and I played football up until like, up until senior year of, of high school, I mean, through senior year of high school. But I played D line and it was basically just go, go straight, go right, go left. That was my, that was my.

• 28:56Speaker 00

  How you should do the breakdown. Be like, look, all right, we're going to focus, we're going to key in on this defensive lineman. Watch his technique. He goes straight. Perfect straight.

• 29:06Speaker 05

  I bait, like our, the only defensive thing that I remember from high school is the middle linebacker would tell me Richie, Richie, Richie, Louie, Louie, Louie.

• 29:13Speaker 00

  What did that?

• 29:14Speaker 05

  And that just meant if I went right or left. That was, that was all I got.

• 29:17Speaker 02

  And no one ever figured it out.

• 29:18Speaker 00

  What do you say, memes? Memes, what do you got?

• 29:21Speaker 05

  Max had this exact same thing last year. Like, did I? The exact same conversation.

• 29:25Speaker 02

  Max got jealous of my film breakdowns that I would put out about.

• 29:28Speaker 05

  No, I.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, about Jaden's handoffs.

• 29:29Speaker 05

  No, I said this on Wake Up Arsenal this morning. I said I was going to become, start becoming a film guy.

• 29:33Speaker 00

  Let's do it. Maybe Sam Schwartz, he can help you.

• 29:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, but whole, whole, I don't want to, I don't want to know too much.

• 29:40Speaker 00

  No, I meant literally give you like, uh, his passwords.

• 29:43Speaker 05

  Oh, okay.

• 29:44Speaker 00

  Watch his all twenty.

• 29:44Speaker 05

  But I don't, yeah, I don't want him to like, teach me too much. I like to live in my.

• 29:48Speaker 00

  I would, I would watch Max's breakdowns for a guy who doesn't really know football, but loves football.

• 29:54Speaker 05

  Yeah. No, no, you don't, it'd be.

• 29:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, dude.

• 29:59Speaker 05

  I just want to watch and I just want to, I just want to watch like each player.

• 30:03Speaker 00

  The all twenty two angle is fun.

• 30:04Speaker 05

  I know. That's what I want to do.

• 30:05Speaker 02

  I watched, I watched the entire game again last night and I was pretty much doing it just watching one player. And I don't know how the film guys do it. You do, do they just watch a single player and then go back and watch a different player?

• 30:16Speaker 05

  I was wondering that too.

• 30:18Speaker 02

  Cause you can't actually watch more than one guy if you're actually trying to figure out if one guy's good on a player or not. You have to just look at that.

• 30:24Speaker 00

  Through it. Like they go through, like they'll watch, the guys who are really good will do game film. Like they'll do an entire game in like twenty five minute. Baldy's just like ripping through it.

• 30:34Speaker 05

  I think it would take me a full day, like full nine to five of trying to just watch one game and get like a reel.

• 30:40Speaker 00

  Film break.

• 30:40Speaker 02

  Cause you get distracted too.

• 30:42Speaker 05

  No, that doesn't sound like me. I'm really good at multitasking. Memes?

• 30:48Speaker 00

  I mean, no, we're having the same exact conversation.

• 30:51Speaker 05

  I don't think I said this last year, but I'm going to figure it out. I'm going to figure out how to get the all twenty two and then I'm.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  You were jealous of my handoff breakdowns.

• 30:58Speaker 05

  I asked Stephen Che, I already said it. I said it this morning before you even said that.

• 31:02Speaker 02

  No, I'm saying last year. That's why you said it last year.

• 31:04Speaker 05

  Oh, yeah. Oh, the handoffs. Yeah, the handoffs. Those were, those were impressive. How was handoff? You, you said you watched the game.

• 31:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I did. I did. You know, you know what's kind of sad is I was going through trying to find the best handoff to break down.

• 31:17Speaker 02

  His handoff game might've fallen off.

• 31:20Speaker 05

  No, no.

• 31:21Speaker 02

  Jaden gets a big downgrade for me this year in terms of handoffs from week one. Comparing week ones year over year. It's bad. There was absolutely no flair to it. He didn't have any joy in the handoffs.

• 31:35Speaker 02

  I'd like to see more explosiveness in that elbow.

• 31:37Speaker 05

  Mm hmm.

• 31:39Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 31:39Speaker 02

  Also, Mikey Sanders still sucked and he's probably gonna get benched.

• 31:43Speaker 00

  Damn.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:44Speaker 05

  You'd love Mikey.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  I do love Mikey. I thought he was gonna be my honey badger.

• 31:47Speaker 05

  That one touchdown that he gave up to Wicks was.

• 31:51Speaker 00

  Can I do a little, I, I don't wanna overload everyone with my love for Ben Johnson, cuz it is gonna, it's getting borderline like too much. You know how the coach, a coach after having a really good season and there's a catchphrase, the next season, it's like, do you bring back the catchphrase? Do you not? So he did the perfect thing after the Bears won where he broke down the huddle and then he was just like, alright, that's all I got. And then, I'm, I'm not joking, if you pull up the clip, like J.J. Walker looked like he was, he was having like a mental breakdown cuz he needed good, better, best so bad. He's like, he was convulsing.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Gonna be hit?

• 32:28Speaker 00

  And then they find, and then, and then he hit, and then he hit it and everyone was like, fuck yes, that was like the best. He blue balls the entire locker room.

• 32:35Speaker 02

  I mean, he's gonna taste.

• 32:35Speaker 00

  To a point where they're like, we need it so bad, you have to do it. That, it was before that. I don't know if you have it.

• 32:42Speaker 02

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• 32:43Speaker 00

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• 34:06Speaker 00

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• 34:16Speaker 00

  That's all I got, right?

• 34:22Speaker 00

  J.J. Walker, look at him. He's shaking.

• 34:42Speaker 00

  You got a whole, whole locker room of guys just screaming, I need it, I need it. But it is a hard thing to like decide if you're gonna bring back the thing that you did last year.

• 34:50Speaker 02

  He knew what he was doing with that walk away.

• 34:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 34:51Speaker 02

  He knew, he had a little smirk on his face, like, alright, see ya.

• 34:54Speaker 00

  Because you don't know, like, do you bring something?

• 34:56Speaker 02

  Anything else that you want me to say?

• 34:57Speaker 00

  Yeah, do you bring something back year after, you know what I mean? Because eventually it probably like falls on deaf ears. So you just make them beg for it.

• 35:06Speaker 02

  Retired after you win a Super Bowl cuz your best can't get any better.

• 35:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, or if this season doesn't go well, then you retire it.

• 35:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 35:12Speaker 02

  Hank, what do you think?

• 35:14Speaker 03

  I like it.

• 35:14Speaker 02

  I just wanna know your thoughts.

• 35:15Speaker 03

  I like it.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  How are you, how are you feeling about your Patriots? You've had the benefit of watching every other team play and, and digesting all that.

• 35:24Speaker 03

  Yeah, I talked about it earlier, the AFC stacked, it's, it's, it's concerning. Lot of good quarterbacks, lot of good teams.

• 35:32Speaker 02

  I'm, Geno Smith ranked number one.

• 35:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm, I'm so excited. Week two, there are some loser leaves town games already. Well, actually, only Cowboys, Commanders, loser leaves town.

• 35:46Speaker 02

  Maybe.

• 35:47Speaker 00

  No?

• 35:48Speaker 02

  I don't, it's still, it's still early.

• 35:50Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  I think we just gotta win one of our first three.

• 35:53Speaker 00

  There's.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  I've seen some bad starts before.

• 35:55Speaker 00

  Like, the Packers are in must win, feels like.

• 35:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 35:58Speaker 00

  The Broncos are gonna be in must win with their schedule coming up. The Chargers might have the most must win game of all time, playing the Raiders with the schedule they have. Like, if they don't win this week, it's over. And I know that sounds crazy, but it's over. Might be pinky team if they lose to the Raiders. I might not do pinky team this year.

• 36:19Speaker 02

  Flew too close to the sun?

• 36:20Speaker 00

  It's just so stressful. It's so stressful. And I don't know if I really want all that stress for something that, cuz I would go through with it and I don't, like, I feel the stress. I'll have to decide. See who, who loses, who starts 0-2.

• 36:36Speaker 05

  You're gonna end up doing it.

• 36:38Speaker 00

  If the Texans lose to the Bengals, do Texans again.

• 36:43Speaker 00

  Run back to Texas. Alright, you guys wanna talk some college ball?

• 36:46Speaker 02

  Let's talk ball.

• 36:47Speaker 00

  Uh, the big game, obviously, Ohio State, Texas, Texas. Uh, that was an incredible second half, really bad first half from Arch Manning. Do you, PFT, see this as more a Texas win or a Ohio State choke?

• 37:05Speaker 02

  I think it's Texas win.

• 37:06Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 37:06Speaker 02

  As much as I would like to say Ohio State choke, I think, I don't know what the numbers are, it's probably just about impossible to look up, but it's gotta be very, very rare that in a matchup this high profile, that a team that fumbles on the first play comes back and wins after committing a turnover right off the bat. I feel like, right when you watch that, most people, you see that and you're like, oh, that's how the whole game's gonna go. It's usually like a tone setter. And the fact that in the fourth quarter, I don't think that any of the points that they score at the end of the game were off short fields. I don't think they were off, like directly off turnovers, like deep in the opponent territory.

• 37:42Speaker 00

  Ohio State kept on going three and out, but yeah.

• 37:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. What I'm saying is like, Arch had to do that.

• 37:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:47Speaker 02

  He had to put together like really good drives to come back and win. And yeah, it's kind of a choke job, but I think, um, I think it's big for Arch. I think it's huge for Texas.

• 37:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, there was, you could feel the angst in the stadium at halftime with Arch playing that poorly after, you know, red shirt year, backup to Quinn Ewers, uh, then last year where he's, you know, not good, they fall short of the playoff. And then you have this moment again, you're like, oh no, is this gonna happen again? And he was great in the fourth quarter. I, I will say Texas win, Ryan Day choke. Because Ryan Day, two, two, I mean, the play calling, I don't know, like, maybe they got too conservative. I think they probably did. The, and there also were a couple of plays like that. That was the thing. Texas did have, like, there was a couple of plays that if Julian Sayen makes

• 38:38Speaker 00

  a pass or if a catch gets made, everything can kinda change. I didn't, I, I hated the punt they had on the Texas 39, two minutes into the second half on fourth and four, up 20. It's like, dude, just, just fucking step on their throat right this second. Like, just, just end it. You score a touchdown, it's not, it, the game's over. And then absolutely zero brain, zero situational awareness to not let them score.

• 39:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 39:07Speaker 00

  At the end of the game. Because you have Jeremiah Smith, you have, you, you let them score, you get what? What, what did they end up scoring? I think first down was like a minute and a half left. A minute and a half in college to get into field goal range is an eternity. You're down one, all you gotta do is get a, into field goal range, which obviously the field goal kicker making it would be, would be a whole different story. So you have a minute. So they let him score, it'd be a minute, uh, left and I think a timeout. Yeah. One minute with one timeout is, that's like 10 minutes.

• 39:40Speaker 02

  It's a long time, especially if you have the weapons that Ohio.

• 39:42Speaker 00

  I don't, and I know Ohio State's defense is awesome and that's their thing where they, you know, stop people at the goal line. Just let them score and let Julian Sayen go win the game with, with his arm and Jeremiah Smith.

• 39:52Speaker 02

  Can you think of any recent examples where Ohio State has stopped Texas at the goal line?

• 39:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  But no, the difference was Sark actually called football like a, like a man.

• 40:01Speaker 00

  Wait, the second half?

• 40:02Speaker 02

  In the second half, yeah, but like, ran the ball down the dick.

• 40:05Speaker 00

  He, Sark gets obsessed with these stretch runs.

• 40:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, he loves them.

• 40:09Speaker 00

  And it's just like, dude, it's not working. And then, yeah, you're right, the second half, he was just like, I'm gonna run it right down your throat.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:14Speaker 00

  And that's what's gonna happen.

• 40:15Speaker 02

  Maybe, maybe, uh, maybe Ohio State was, they told like their cornerbacks and safeties, hey, when they run that stretch, let them score.

• 40:22Speaker 00

  Right.

• 40:23Speaker 02

  But didn't tell the defensive lineman and the linebackers. And they're like, okay, we better tackle them as they're trying to score here.

• 40:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:28Speaker 02

  Um, I thought also, like, there was a, a play in the first half that could have changed the entire game. It was, is the early turnover on the first play and then Arch throwing that bomb to Cam Coleman.

• 40:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, it bounced off of.

• 40:40Speaker 02

  That he caught and then kinda bounced away and got picked off.

• 40:44Speaker 00

  That wasn't Arch's fault.

• 40:45Speaker 02

  That's not Arch's fault. That's like, it was a, like a 50 yard gain that instantly got wiped off, turned into a turnover. Like, to battle back from those two, like, really, really unfortunate starts of the game and, and keeping your head together in the second half, I think Texas is a really, really good team.

• 41:01Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, alright.

• 41:03Speaker 02

  Also, Ohio State can't get a kicker. I like how the more things change, they stay the same.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:08Speaker 02

  They just are unable, they're unable to, to recruit kickers at that school.

• 41:13Speaker 00

  The big story, which we have Eric Morris from Oklahoma State on, Oregon losing as 23 and a half point favorites in Stillwater, which was shocking, not just because they lost, but they got dominated. And if it weren't for some defense, I mean, they had a pick six, uh, their defense kept a minute, they were getting absolutely killed in terms of like total yardage. And shout out to Eric Morris because to go from week one where you have a really disappointing start to the season, to then have a game like that against Oregon, who a lot of people, Brandon Walker, picked to win the national championship, was super impressive. It's not apples to apples. I've heard some people say this, I'll throw this

• 41:56Speaker 00

  out there, you guys can tell me. It's not apples to apples because I think the, the situations are different, the setup is different. Dan Lanning's only been there for a few years, uh, I think five years maybe, but.

• 42:08Speaker 00

  There's some kind of similar, you could make some similar correlations with Penn State last year. Dan Lanning has been an unbelievable coach who has fallen short against basically the best competition. That's it. Like he beats everyone else. He loses to the national champion. This is a game early in the season where he should have won and like remember James Frank? Again, I don't think Dan Lanning's fine, but the, it's more like Dan Lanning's not gonna get fired. It's more in season, could this spiral? Quarterbacks could go to the draft, stays. Dante Moore, Drew Aller, you think you're loaded, you think everything's set and then you lose the game that you never lose as 23 and a half point favorites. Does

• 42:51Speaker 00

  it spiral from there? I tend to think no, but it's very interesting to look at and be like, oh yeah, this is, remember when Penn State lost last year and you're just like, they lost, what? They lost the Oregon game and then?

• 43:04Speaker 05

  UCLA.

• 43:05Speaker 00

  UCLA.

• 43:06Speaker 05

  And then Northwestern.

• 43:07Speaker 00

  And that's, and the UCLA loss was like, oh fuck, the wheels are off. Like that's a game that James Franklin never loses.

• 43:12Speaker 05

  But it was also, there's also similarities because they kind of played with their food before the Oregon game.

• 43:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:18Speaker 05

  And then Oregon also played with their food against Boise State.

• 43:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 43:23Speaker 05

  So there's, the difference is Oklahoma State sucks and then, and Penn State's first loss was against.

• 43:30Speaker 00

  Yeah. And, and again, I'm not, Dan Lanning is going to be the Oregon coach the rest of the season. I'm talking more about the season itself. Could it spiral where if they lose to USC in two weeks and you're like, oh shit, we thought, you know, Dante Moore coming back was going to be this great thing and it hasn't gotten better and like, I don't know. It's a very fascinating team to watch.

• 43:49Speaker 02

  I, I don't think that Dan Lanning has slept since that loss.

• 43:52Speaker 00

  No.

• 43:52Speaker 02

  I think Dan Lanning has turned into an absolute psycho because of this loss.

• 43:55Speaker 00

  He's sick.

• 43:55Speaker 02

  It actually might be a, a dangerous thing for the rest of the big 10 that Oregon lost that game.

• 43:59Speaker 00

  The USC game will be massive. Like that's to watch that game. It's in two weeks at USC. USC looks really good. It's like doubt, if US, if Oregon loses that game, they're, they're probably out.

• 44:11Speaker 02

  How about a Messina makers Elway moment?

• 44:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:14Speaker 02

  That was an awesome play.

• 44:15Speaker 00

  So sick.

• 44:15Speaker 02

  That was such a good jump. I loved watching that. It was one where the, the announcers, I love it when announcers say this. They see like some reckless play like that happen. They go, you think this kid doesn't want to win this game?

• 44:26Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:27Speaker 02

  Cause like I'm at home. I'm like, I didn't think he wanted to win. And then he did that. And I'm like, well, yeah, good point. I was wrong.

• 44:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, also Michigan with the most obvious, Dave Portnoy, Michigan bouncing, bouncing back after week one. John Mitziere was really, really bad. Bryce Underwood wasn't that much better. He was great with his feet. That was, it was, it was very clear that Kyle Whittingham was like, we're going to run Bryce Underwood and he is a absolute freak of an athlete and that will work. But I think, I think Bryce Underwood had four pass attempts in the second half. The story of the game was more Michigan's defense is fucking for real. And if they can figure out Bryce Underwood at all, like if he can get a little bit better, that's a real team.

• 45:11Speaker 02

  I think he will. I think he'll get better. He's still really, really young. You would ideally like to see him make that jump between the end of the first season.

• 45:18Speaker 00

  Right.

• 45:19Speaker 02

  And the start of the second. So it's fair to say like, he had enough time to improve over the course of an off season.

• 45:24Speaker 00

  Right.

• 45:24Speaker 02

  That it's not, he's not that young anymore, but he's still, it's still very likely that he gets better, but they might not need him to get that much better.

• 45:32Speaker 00

  This Oklahoma fans have to be going through it right now because um, not, it's not the, it's not a similar thing, but I, I had this uh, with Wisconsin when Russell Wilson was, was that Wisconsin? And we had the best offense we've ever had in like the program history and just lit up the scoreboard and our defense was bad for one year. Oklahoma has been like forever. What can you say for Oklahoma? Points. Like they have Heisman quarterbacks. They score points. They have a really good defense. Their offense is dog shit.

• 46:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:03Speaker 00

  And like to have that flip where you're like, if you just gave us our offense from like any other year in Oklahoma history, we would be national title contenders.

• 46:13Speaker 02

  I think it was uh, this off season, Venable's was like, if I can just fix the offense, then we should win.

• 46:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:19Speaker 02

  And then maybe, I don't know. I, I still think their defense is gonna be really, really good. This is bad game for them. And it might be that situation where Michigan looked like dog shit week one. Oklahoma might've thought to themselves, like we got this.

• 46:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 46:30Speaker 02

  That team stinks.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. But Michigan, I mean, they have a couple, they have some big games coming up, but that is that, I mean, the fact they survived the last two weeks, two and O, they're, they're for real as for real gets. What else? Any, any other notes from college football?

• 46:44Speaker 02

  James Franklin had a very funny press conference yesterday.

• 46:46Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 46:47Speaker 02

  Where he, Michael?

• 46:48Speaker 00

  Michael.

• 46:48Speaker 02

  Hey, Michael.

• 46:49Speaker 00

  Michael.

• 46:49Speaker 02

  Hey, Michael.

• 46:50Speaker 00

  Michael.

• 46:50Speaker 02

  Hey, Michael. Sounded like uh, like Dwight Schrute. Michael.

• 46:54Speaker 00

  It, it, hey, Michael. It reminded me of the Francesa.

• 46:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 46:57Speaker 00

  Michael.

• 46:58Speaker 02

  I guess the guy was on a zoom call and, and he might've been lagging a little bit. I don't know. It was, it was a very funny moment from James Frank. It looked like an absolute psychopath.

• 47:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:07Speaker 02

  Like when, when coaches get it in their head, like I need to, I'm trying to instill the same discipline in my press corps as I do in my team.

• 47:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 47:15Speaker 02

  We, we greet each other by name. We shake hands and maintain eye contact.

• 47:18Speaker 00

  Yep. And oh, I should say, Alabama looked really, their defense looked really, really good going to Kentucky. Uh, and I, all eyes on LSU Ole Miss.

• 47:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 47:28Speaker 00

  I mean, what a game. This is going to be so much fun to watch. I like LSU in this game. I don't know. I've been also ice cold, but this is going to be so fun.

• 47:38Speaker 02

  It's gonna be great. I have no idea what to expect. I think it's gonna be, it's gonna be the craziest environment.

• 47:43Speaker 00

  Nuclear lava hot viral moments.

• 47:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. Lane does need to get the, the Mississippi National Guard to protect him on the sideline.

• 47:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Why doesn't he get the, doesn't LSU have the?

• 47:52Speaker 02

  The biggest cop in the world.

• 47:53Speaker 00

  Yeah, the biggest cop in the world. Yeah.

• 47:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. He should make that trip and just stand right behind him.

• 47:57Speaker 00

  Also, our guy, Coach O is dealing with some health issues. So we're thinking of Coach O. I saw that Lane talked about that. So hopefully he gets back out there. He's, Lane made a joke that like Coach O said, like, I'm never going to the doctor. I'll die on that field. And Lane was like, maybe we shouldn't joke about it.

• 48:12Speaker 02

  Go to the doctor, actually.

• 48:14Speaker 00

  He would. Uh, okay. Let's do hot seat, cool throw. And then we'll get to our interviews, talk some more ball. We got Eric Morris, Derek Carr. Uh, before we do that.

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• 49:37Speaker 00

  Henry.

• 49:38Speaker 03

  Um, my hot seat is Arch Manning.

• 49:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  There was the, uh, the, the Sark, I guess controversy, whatever you want to call it. Uh, with the sideline interview at halftime where there was a timing, technical issues and he kind of ran away. Uh, and then there was Arch Manning was asked about it. And he said he's like, saw one of the AI videos that was like Sark slapping Holly Rowan. He like said it was funny and then everyone's, you know.

• 50:09Speaker 02

  Well, she shouldn't have touched his golf clubs.

• 50:11Speaker 03

  Upset with him for talking about it, which is just like he's, he's a, he's a dumb college kid. Like it's very, you know, immature humor and probably something that, you know, that gets sent around in group chats, whatever. But it was, it was very dumb of him to say, like acknowledge that he saw it and like that he, that he thought it was funny.

• 50:28Speaker 02

  I, I agree. Like he's a manny. I, I bet you, uh, I bet you the grandfather, I bet you Archie called him up and was like, hey, we can't be saying that.

• 50:39Speaker 03

  You just can't be saying, you can't be saying, like it's, it was, it was, it was just very dumb to say that in a press conference.

• 50:45Speaker 02

  In terms of like how good they are at, at dealing with the media. It was, it was weird that he was like, yeah, that was awesome. I really enjoyed that. Like you got, you gotta be smarter. You cannot say that in a press conference for everybody to hear.

• 50:57Speaker 00

  It's just, yeah. He, I mean, his apology, I, I, it was a decent apology because he did, you know.

• 51:02Speaker 03

  He said, yeah, he wrote a whole Instagram story, like kind of notes appish apology and Holly Rowe replied and said they talked privately. They're not going to talk about what they talked about, but like that it's all good, but.

• 51:11Speaker 00

  I, I thought the apology was good and just the fact that he could easily have been like, I didn't mean it that way. He said, no, I know what I, I said what I meant. And it was, yeah, it was stupid. Just, you know, AI, real, AI is a fucking, are we going to die from AI?

• 51:26Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's gonna be my hot seat.

• 51:27Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 51:28Speaker 02

  Okay. We'll get to it.

• 51:31Speaker 03

  Definitely. Uh, and then my.

• 51:32Speaker 00

  Why are you, are you picking your ears with a fork? God.

• 51:37Speaker 05

  I don't, I didn't. Sometimes I do stuff and I don't, I don't know. I don't know what I'm doing.

• 51:42Speaker 00

  Before.

• 51:42Speaker 03

  No one's ever been less.

• 51:44Speaker 00

  Locked in it. Dude, it's football season. Lock in.

• 51:48Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:49Speaker 00

  This is I.

• 51:50Speaker 05

  There's no, there is no video of that.

• 51:52Speaker 00

  I don't know about you guys, but when, when football season comes back, I get so locked. I'm just happy all the time.

• 51:57Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 51:58Speaker 00

  Just going. It's like every, every week is the same pattern where it's like, I know. I got football at the end of this.

• 52:04Speaker 03

  Yes, I should be back in a routine.

• 52:06Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 52:06Speaker 02

  Tuesdays, there's a feel to Tuesdays during football season.

• 52:09Speaker 00

  Get some sleep.

• 52:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's a feel to Wednesdays. There's a feel to, like every day has, Tuesday is react to Monday night football day. Wednesday is get your fantasy team set and stacked, even though.

• 52:18Speaker 00

  Get prepped for this weekend.

• 52:19Speaker 02

  Even though I don't do that anymore, but like a person who takes active care of their fantasy teams, Wednesday is a big day. Thursday, you think about Thursday night football.

• 52:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 52:28Speaker 02

  Friday, you react to Thursday night football and think about the weekend. Weekend comes in Monday. You have Monday night football and you have an entire day's worth of games to be mad about or happy about. There is, there's a distinct feel to every day of the week.

• 52:39Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 52:40Speaker 02

  And outside of football season. My body clock gets a lot like NBA playoffs. I have no idea.

• 52:45Speaker 00

  Well, it's, it's, they basically make your schedule for you.

• 52:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 52:48Speaker 00

  We're toddlers and we need someone to tell us like, hey. This is when you should be watching football and then this is when you should go to sleep.

• 52:55Speaker 02

  It's like, that's maybe why I don't like it when the NFL does games on Wednesdays.

• 52:58Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 52:59Speaker 02

  Because it's, I, I personally get like body jet lag.

• 53:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:02Speaker 02

  I wake up in the morning, I'm like, wait, today's a football day?

• 53:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 53:05Speaker 02

  That doesn't feel right.

• 53:05Speaker 00

  What do you mean? We're watching football. By the way, shout out Jerry's kids, one and O.

• 53:10Speaker 03

  Yep.

• 53:10Speaker 00

  The skin of our teeth.

• 53:11Speaker 02

  Yep. Nice work, Jerry.

• 53:12Speaker 00

  Good job, Jerry.

• 53:13Speaker 03

  Uh, and then my cool throne was just football guy quotes. Uh, you talked about the, the Edo one. He said, yeah, the, I'm not going to the hospital. I'm dying. I'm dying on that field out there. And then Kenny Dillingham, who is in London, growing the game. Love to see that. Uh, Big Noon is, is in London this weekend. Our fearless leader, Dave Portnoy is out there growing the game. Little surprised they didn't ask me to go be like a guest pick or something. That's fine.

• 53:37Speaker 00

  You.

• 53:40Speaker 00

  I could make a text right now and get you there. If you mean it.

• 53:44Speaker 05

  I know, he meant it. He meant it.

• 53:45Speaker 00

  If you mean it, if you mean it, I could get you, I could get you there.

• 53:49Speaker 05

  He just said it.

• 53:50Speaker 00

  I, so you mean it, right? I'll get you there.

• 53:52Speaker 02

  I think you'd lie.

• 53:53Speaker 03

  I meant that.

• 53:54Speaker 05

  No, no, no.

• 53:56Speaker 00

  And I'll say that we got a guy who loves internet show football.

• 54:00Speaker 03

  I'm not saying I'd want, like, I have a wedding this weekend, so I can't either way.

• 54:04Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 54:05Speaker 03

  I was just saying, I, I did mean that I was surprised I wasn't asked.

• 54:09Speaker 00

  Okay, interesting.

• 54:11Speaker 03

  But Kenny Dillingham was doing an interview. He said he hasn't slept in 36 hours and doesn't care about sightseeing at all.

• 54:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:17Speaker 03

  Which is just.

• 54:17Speaker 00

  If you're, uh, if you're handicapping that game, I did do the research. Uh, Kansas is leaving for England Tuesday afternoon. Arizona State left for England immediately after the game against Texas A&M. They didn't go home. They went straight to England, so they've been there since Saturday.

• 54:36Speaker 02

  Love that.

• 54:37Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  I mean, going from Tempe to, to London, they gotta be, they gotta be sick of being in England by now, huh?

• 54:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. The most like extreme weather changes.

• 54:47Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  That you could have. It's just wet and.

• 54:50Speaker 02

  Hank, what do you like so much about London football?

• 54:53Speaker 03

  Just international football.

• 54:54Speaker 00

  So Hank, I assume you can't, so you can't go, uh, even though I could get you there, but you're saying you don't want to go. I assume you will be watching this game.

• 55:02Speaker 02

  Probably.

• 55:03Speaker 00

  Can we get some live tweets?

• 55:05Speaker 02

  Sure.

• 55:06Speaker 00

  Okay, maybe a hashtag?

• 55:09Speaker 03

  Sure.

• 55:09Speaker 00

  Hank goes abroad?

• 55:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, Big Noon. I love Big Noon.

• 55:12Speaker 00

  Okay. What?

• 55:14Speaker 05

  You, Hank really dug his own grave with this one.

• 55:16Speaker 00

  He loves.

• 55:17Speaker 03

  How?

• 55:17Speaker 00

  He loves international football.

• 55:18Speaker 05

  Because you gotta, now you gotta lock in on this game and I know you don't want to lock in on this.

• 55:22Speaker 03

  I love to lock in on international football.

• 55:24Speaker 00

  You're, you're not going to be locked in on this game.

• 55:29Speaker 03

  A little bit.

• 55:30Speaker 02

  Over, under, uh, 15 seconds of this game watched by you.

• 55:34Speaker 03

  Over.

• 55:36Speaker 02

  Two minutes.

• 55:37Speaker 05

  Yeah, you just gave him that out. Now all he needs to do is go over 15 seconds.

• 55:41Speaker 02

  I actually don't think he's going to hit that.

• 55:43Speaker 05

  He'll hit that.

• 55:43Speaker 02

  I don't think that he will.

• 55:44Speaker 05

  He'll hit that.

• 55:45Speaker 03

  I'll hit that. Smash it.

• 55:48Speaker 00

  I mean, we're close Hank, Sunday, October 4th, first London or international game.

• 55:53Speaker 03

  Fuck yes.

• 55:54Speaker 00

  Commander first Colts. Well, third. Did you not watch UNC versus TCU?

• 56:00Speaker 03

  NFL.

• 56:02Speaker 00

  Oh, okay. Second because Australia?

• 56:04Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:05Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:05Speaker 03

  International, I think.

• 56:06Speaker 00

  Yeah, that is international.

• 56:07Speaker 02

  It does qualify.

• 56:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. I wonder how the 49ers are doing. Are they jet lagged?

• 56:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, they're, they're, they're all kinds of fucked up right now.

• 56:13Speaker 00

  Still fucked up?

• 56:13Speaker 02

  They're very fucked up.

• 56:15Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, good job, Hank.

• 56:18Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 56:19Speaker 02

  Nice work, Hank.

• 56:19Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 56:20Speaker 00

  Great work, Hank.

• 56:21Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 56:21Speaker 02

  Uh, my hot seat is Sam Darnold's butt.

• 56:25Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 56:26Speaker 02

  He got seen by a doctor and they said that it's not a hip injury. It's a weird, it's an unusual, strange, deep tissue injury in his glute.

• 56:33Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 56:34Speaker 02

  So it's, uh, some sort of butt injury that NFL doctors are not super familiar with. So it looks like he's going to be out for at least another couple of weeks.

• 56:41Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 56:42Speaker 02

  So I don't know what you did to the man, but you hurt his butt, Hank.

• 56:46Speaker 03

  I, I, I saw something, uh, that night that it's actually the, uh. It's the turf. It's the way they have that field set up.

• 56:52Speaker 00

  Concrete underneath it.

• 56:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 56:54Speaker 03

  So that's on Seattle.

• 56:56Speaker 02

  Is that a, um?

• 56:57Speaker 03

  Bad sports town.

• 56:58Speaker 02

  Bad sports town. They just, I'm not even going to.

• 57:00Speaker 00

  What are your list of bad sports towns?

• 57:02Speaker 03

  Seattle.

• 57:03Speaker 02

  Ohio.

• 57:04Speaker 03

  Ohio.

• 57:06Speaker 03

  I actually like, weirdly enough, I like the, like Cincinnati Reds. Like I saw that, uh. De La Cruz homerun when he hit one out of the, out of the stadium. And I was like, I like, I have not, I have no issues with Cincinnati despite them being like, I kind of like, I like.

• 57:18Speaker 02

  They're pretty much Kentucky.

• 57:19Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 57:21Speaker 03

  Seattle, Cleveland, New York.

• 57:26Speaker 00

  These are all very good sports towns.

• 57:29Speaker 03

  Miami.

• 57:30Speaker 00

  That one might, yeah, that one. Okay, that's fair.

• 57:34Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 57:35Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 57:36Speaker 02

  Philly?

• 57:37Speaker 00

  LA?

• 57:39Speaker 03

  No, I mean, I'm from LA, so good sports town. Uh. No, I like, I like, I like Philly. Philly, like they're such scumbags. Like I like how. Like big of scumbags they are. Like that's a sign of a good sports town.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  Good rivalry.

• 57:51Speaker 03

  They're the biggest.

• 57:52Speaker 02

  You and, you and Philly, good rivalry.

• 57:54Speaker 00

  I mean, New York are like, they, they bullied the entire Ryder Cup team to a point where they're like, this, this tournament has gone too far.

• 58:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's classless.

• 58:01Speaker 00

  That's the difference.

• 58:03Speaker 05

  Took over every away stadium.

• 58:05Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 58:06Speaker 05

  During the playoff run.

• 58:07Speaker 00

  The Knicks did do that.

• 58:09Speaker 05

  The Knicks are, the, the, there's no other team.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, Hank, when you say that.

• 58:12Speaker 05

  The Nets don't exist.

• 58:13Speaker 02

  When you say you might respect Philly, maybe you actually respect. New York, because when you watch their games, it's usually a bunch of people from New York there.

• 58:19Speaker 03

  That's true.

• 58:22Speaker 05

  But they're rich.

• 58:23Speaker 03

  They're richer, yeah.

• 58:23Speaker 00

  Yeah, they have jobs. They're so rich.

• 58:25Speaker 02

  Uh, LeBron also brought back.

• 58:27Speaker 00

  So poor.

• 58:27Speaker 02

  LeBron brought back, uh, Taco Tuesday today, Max.

• 58:31Speaker 00

  I saw that.

• 58:31Speaker 02

  You gotta, you're not locked in on LeBron.

• 58:32Speaker 05

  Oh, I knew about that. Me and Don have been talking about Taco Tuesday all day.

• 58:35Speaker 00

  Also, he's got a boat team?

• 58:37Speaker 05

  What? Oh yeah, E1.

• 58:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. He's got a powerboat team.

• 58:41Speaker 05

  It's, it's F1.

• 58:43Speaker 00

  Trying to do everything but play basketball.

• 58:44Speaker 05

  It's F1 on the water.

• 58:46Speaker 00

  So just since he signed in Philly, he's a YouTube golfer.

• 58:50Speaker 05

  He's done two videos.

• 58:51Speaker 00

  Taco Tuesday guy.

• 58:53Speaker 05

  He's done that his whole career.

• 58:55Speaker 00

  And he is a powerboat owner.

• 58:59Speaker 05

  You have no idea when he started that.

• 59:01Speaker 02

  So he's a sailor now?

• 59:02Speaker 05

  You just, you're just aware of that now.

• 59:06Speaker 00

  He went to Angola to watch his team.

• 59:08Speaker 02

  That's, that's.

• 59:09Speaker 00

  Oh, he lost to Team Brady? What the hell is going on?

• 59:13Speaker 02

  This has to be funded by, by the Public Investment Fund.

• 59:16Speaker 00

  Either that or Russian oligarchs.

• 59:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, Qatar, it's one of, yeah, one of the big three.

• 59:21Speaker 00

  What the hell is? There's boat racing like this?

• 59:24Speaker 02

  We're all going to be, everyone on earth is going to be, uh, living in deep poverty in 30 years and LeBron James, Logan Paul. And Tom Brady are going to compete in powerboat racing and that will be the only form of entertainment that we have.

• 59:37Speaker 00

  And we'll watch.

• 59:38Speaker 02

  And we're going to watch.

• 59:38Speaker 00

  We're going to watch.

• 59:39Speaker 03

  These powerboats, when they go too fast, they end up like 200 feet in the air. It's some, it's kind of insane.

• 59:46Speaker 02

  There's nothing that's.

• 59:47Speaker 00

  No, actually I'll add one thing to that. We're going to watch the, the powerboat racing with, what was it? Logan Paul, LeBron James and Tom Brady?

• 59:53Speaker 02

  And yeah, also Michael Rubin.

• 59:54Speaker 00

  And every, and, and depending on your birthday, you get assigned a, a team. And if, if your team loses, Mr. Beast kills you.

• 1:00:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's, welcome to the future economy.

• 1:00:02Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:00:03Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 1:00:04Speaker 00

  These boats are kind of cool.

• 1:00:05Speaker 02

  They are weird looking. They look like decapitated birds.

• 1:00:08Speaker 00

  Well, they're, they're like electric boats. They're not gas.

• 1:00:12Speaker 05

  They're hovering over the water.

• 1:00:16Speaker 02

  Like a chick.

• 1:00:16Speaker 00

  I mean, this does look badass. I'm.

• 1:00:19Speaker 02

  This is a no.

• 1:00:20Speaker 00

  This is the new F1?

• 1:00:20Speaker 02

  Would you watch this?

• 1:00:21Speaker 05

  It's E1.

• 1:00:22Speaker 00

  I'm watching it right now, PFT.

• 1:00:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. You remember when you tried to watch F1?

• 1:00:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, oh.

• 1:00:29Speaker 02

  Oh, it's a woman driver. It's definitely not Saudi Arabia then.

• 1:00:35Speaker 00

  This is not a camera cut. I expected. Okay.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  All right. Well, good for LeBron. That's awesome. I hope he makes, I hope he has a third of the global wealth in the next 25 years.

• 1:00:49Speaker 02

  Um, my cool throne.

• 1:00:51Speaker 00

  This is the cockpit just has a chicken. It's like, okay, yeah, this is, is this the, is this the women's division? Or is this the men's and women's? Oh no, Sam Coleman, Lucas.

• 1:01:01Speaker 05

  Sam is a chick, unisex name.

• 1:01:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, but Lucas isn't.

• 1:01:05Speaker 05

  Lucas is not.

• 1:01:07Speaker 02

  Our Lucas. Lucas is definitely a chick name.

• 1:01:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:01:11Speaker 05

  Christine. Yeah, there's a, there's a couple.

• 1:01:13Speaker 02

  I would.

• 1:01:15Speaker 02

  I can't see a world in which I would watch more than 15 seconds of this. I would watch Hank's going to watch more of this maybe than the.

• 1:01:21Speaker 00

  Do you know?

• 1:01:22Speaker 02

  State game.

• 1:01:22Speaker 00

  Do you know what would be sick is what if they had, what if we had pontoon boat racing? That's something I'd watch.

• 1:01:32Speaker 05

  I think this is cool looking. Oh yeah. Team Brady.

• 1:01:35Speaker 00

  Pontoon boat racing and it's like each pontoon has to have a minimum of 12 people on the boat when they're racing. Like drinking.

• 1:01:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, they gotta be hammered. You get points off actually.

• 1:01:44Speaker 05

  Did you see the video of like, it was, uh, it's like they, it was junked cars and on the track was a tow truck.

• 1:01:51Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:01:52Speaker 05

  And then the cars.

• 1:01:53Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:01:53Speaker 05

  Only objective was to try and get their car to stop on the tow truck.

• 1:01:56Speaker 00

  Greatest sport ever.

• 1:01:57Speaker 05

  Electric.

• 1:01:58Speaker 00

  Unbelievable.

• 1:01:59Speaker 05

  Absolutely.

• 1:01:59Speaker 00

  It was in New Hampshire, right?

• 1:02:00Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:02:01Speaker 00

  It was, I don't know how that's not the most popular sport in the world.

• 1:02:04Speaker 05

  Uh, yeah, I would watch that all day long.

• 1:02:06Speaker 00

  A car would just get on the back and then they would just get rammed and go off.

• 1:02:11Speaker 02

  Can you imagine if they had pontoon boat racing and then for every beer that somebody on your pontoon drank? That's like a half second off your time.

• 1:02:18Speaker 00

  You'll love it.

• 1:02:19Speaker 02

  And then like the louder that you sing along to like Steve Miller songs.

• 1:02:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, or like wagon wheel.

• 1:02:24Speaker 02

  Wagon wheel. Then you get, yeah, that's another half second off your time. Oh, team Drogba. Nice.

• 1:02:28Speaker 05

  And there's also, I think it could be team Steve Aoki.

• 1:02:33Speaker 00

  Oh my God.

• 1:02:35Speaker 05

  Also, that's a just complete guess.

• 1:02:37Speaker 02

  This is the future and also, um.

• 1:02:38Speaker 00

  Does Diplo have a team?

• 1:02:39Speaker 02

  What do you do in the off season? Well, that's a good question. They have virtual races of these where you can bet on, uh, like the pretend boats. Like we do with the digital racehorses.

• 1:02:47Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:02:48Speaker 05

  Also, uh, my LeBron guys informed me that he's, he's, he's had this team for a while. This isn't a new.

• 1:02:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, but he just went to Angola to watch him. Don't you think he should be practicing or stretching?

• 1:03:00Speaker 05

  It's the off season.

• 1:03:02Speaker 02

  Not really.

• 1:03:03Speaker 05

  Yeah.

• 1:03:04Speaker 02

  Not really.

• 1:03:05Speaker 05

  Coming around. The off season.

• 1:03:07Speaker 02

  I mean, we, we're what?

• 1:03:09Speaker 05

  Jalen Brunson was just at the US Open. He didn't say anything about that.

• 1:03:12Speaker 02

  Sports. He was at a sports game.

• 1:03:14Speaker 05

  This is sports.

• 1:03:15Speaker 00

  It's in New York.

• 1:03:15Speaker 05

  He owns this. He lives in New York. Max. He can fly wherever he wants. It probably takes just as long for LeBron to get to Angola as it does for Jalen Brunson to get to Queens.

• 1:03:27Speaker 02

  That's no way. That's true.

• 1:03:29Speaker 05

  Traffic?

• 1:03:31Speaker 02

  There's no way that's true.

• 1:03:32Speaker 05

  Traffic. No way.

• 1:03:36Speaker 02

  Max, you don't know what a.

• 1:03:37Speaker 05

  I don't know where Angola is.

• 1:03:39Speaker 00

  Okay, you don't know where Angola is.

• 1:03:41Speaker 02

  It's definitely farther than 15 minutes away.

• 1:03:44Speaker 00

  Is that a Caribbean island?

• 1:03:45Speaker 05

  If you think it takes 15 minutes to get from Manhattan.

• 1:03:47Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. They got, if you're on the Knicks, you have a special lane of traffic.

• 1:03:51Speaker 05

  That just doesn't exist.

• 1:03:52Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:03:52Speaker 05

  What did you think? He's taking the subway?

• 1:03:54Speaker 02

  You don't know about it, but they have ways. Yes. If you win a championship in New York.

• 1:03:57Speaker 05

  He's probably taking.

• 1:03:58Speaker 02

  They give you different roads. Yeah.

• 1:04:00Speaker 00

  The Nets have the HOV lane?

• 1:04:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, they, they make the Nets wait in more traffic.

• 1:04:06Speaker 00

  I don't think Jay Z, Jay Z is still an owner of the Nets, right?

• 1:04:08Speaker 02

  No, no.

• 1:04:09Speaker 00

  All right. What's your cool tone?

• 1:04:10Speaker 02

  Uh, then my cool throne is going to be, uh, full backs, full backs are back.

• 1:04:15Speaker 00

  Hell yeah.

• 1:04:16Speaker 02

  So up from week one, uh, there were full backs on the field for 12.4% of offensive plays in the NFL this week.

• 1:04:24Speaker 00

  I love that.

• 1:04:24Speaker 02

  That's up from seven and a half percent in week one last year. We're back and I, I would imagine that if you go back even a couple of years before that seven and a half percent, it was even smaller. I think full backs are on the way back and we talked a little bit about it with, with Derek Carr about like how running the football might be coming back a little bit.

• 1:04:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:42Speaker 02

  In the NFL. Um, I think, I think Smash Mouth hit you in your face. Football is coming back and I'm so, I'm so glad that it is.

• 1:04:49Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 1:04:50Speaker 02

  Because for a long time, if you were a fullback fan, all you had is you check and maybe Ricard.

• 1:04:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:55Speaker 02

  And that's it. And still to, you know, for the most part, that's kind of who you look at, but full backs are back.

• 1:05:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:01Speaker 02

  Full backs are back. We brought them back. Yeah. We brought them back from the dead and also, uh, uh, humanity was going to be my other hot seat. If you want to talk about that.

• 1:05:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:09Speaker 02

  So we might all die.

• 1:05:10Speaker 00

  Okay. How, how painful is really my question?

• 1:05:14Speaker 02

  It sounds like it's not going to be that painful.

• 1:05:15Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:05:16Speaker 02

  But all the AI companies got together and they agreed to pause or at least slow down development because they saw something that scared them a lot.

• 1:05:23Speaker 00

  So, but it, it, when, when it happens, is it going to be just the AI robots turn off all our power?

• 1:05:29Speaker 02

  I think it's going to be like they turn off most of our power. They keep the power for themselves and.

• 1:05:34Speaker 00

  All right. So that is painful.

• 1:05:35Speaker 02

  And for the speedboat races.

• 1:05:36Speaker 00

  So that, that is going to be painful. That's going to be the play.

• 1:05:39Speaker 02

  And then they, maybe they launch all the nukes.

• 1:05:42Speaker 00

  Ah, that's less painful.

• 1:05:44Speaker 02

  That would be less painful. That's what, kind of what we're hoping for. Um.

• 1:05:47Speaker 00

  I'd rather get nuked than be like no power for the rest of your life.

• 1:05:50Speaker 02

  It could be that, or it could just be the, uh, the robots show up to your house.

• 1:05:54Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:05:54Speaker 02

  And then they just kill you. Like the robots show up and then they're like, hey, sir, can you let me in? I'm here to fix the, here to fix the plumbing.

• 1:06:00Speaker 00

  All right. So fuck these guys.

• 1:06:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, fuck them.

• 1:06:02Speaker 05

  Right now there's a 0% chance though.

• 1:06:04Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:06:05Speaker 05

  That's what they're saying. Right now there's a 0% chance AI will kill us. Well, at the end of the decade, they're saying there's a 10% chance.

• 1:06:13Speaker 00

  That's too high.

• 1:06:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's too high. 1% chance. They're saying that right now, we're not going to die now.

• 1:06:18Speaker 05

  0%.

• 1:06:19Speaker 02

  0% chance that we die today from AI.

• 1:06:21Speaker 00

  I saw that one guy had a, a viral tweet that was very funny. He's like, we need to, we need to create the AI that will kill us before China does. Cause we don't want to die with robots speaking Chinese. And I think that's right.

• 1:06:32Speaker 02

  Imagine how brutal that would be.

• 1:06:33Speaker 00

  That would suck.

• 1:06:34Speaker 02

  Can you, can you imagine if like just anybody, if one of us had something and we're like, hey, there's a 10% chance that this thing that I have in my house is going to kill us. Like everybody on planet earth and in 10 years, 10% chance.

• 1:06:46Speaker 00

  You'd be like, hey, don't do that, dude.

• 1:06:48Speaker 02

  I think probably I would get, uh, arrested and shot and killed.

• 1:06:52Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:06:53Speaker 02

  And then my house blown up.

• 1:06:54Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:06:54Speaker 02

  That's what I think would probably happen if I tried to do.

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Yes. Uh, all right. My hot seats. Uh, I got, uh, two or no, I got one, uh, the Chester Zoo. We're Zoo, we're Zoo, we're Zoo podcast. The Chester Zoo in England, England's number one zoo. Hank, are you listening? You love England?

• 1:07:13Speaker 02

  Grow the game.

• 1:07:13Speaker 00

  Um, they put up a promo called the Predator Tour for, uh, like lions and stuff. Well, then you can click on it, PFT, and it says child predator tour, tour only.

• 1:07:28Speaker 02

  Like, like for child passes. Yeah, I'll take, yeah, it's, hey, this is why copyrighting isn't important. The robots can't do it yet.

• 1:07:36Speaker 00

  Child predator tour. AI would have caught that.

• 1:07:39Speaker 02

  AI definitely would have caught that. Yeah.

• 1:07:41Speaker 00

  Child predator tour.

• 1:07:42Speaker 02

  That's not great.

• 1:07:43Speaker 00

  Oh man. Yeah, that one is not.

• 1:07:45Speaker 05

  Maybe it's like one of those sting operations like they did back in the day where they did like a, what was it? Like a free ticket giveaway to, to catch criminals.

• 1:07:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:52Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. I think the Redskins did that.

• 1:07:54Speaker 00

  No, the, uh, in, uh, Alabama, Auburn famously did that for people who didn't pay child support. The Redskins did do it for Superbowl, I think. Yeah. Alabama, Auburn. I remember I watched that whole video where they're like free, free Iron Bowl tickets. And they're like, you haven't paid child support.

• 1:08:09Speaker 05

  So maybe they're, this is like, they're trying to do that.

• 1:08:12Speaker 00

  That's true. Anyone who clicks on that link. Yeah, you're in jail.

• 1:08:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. So it was, it was Operation Flagship and it was run by the US Marshals and the Metro Police Department in 1985. Where they had a bunch of fugitives who voluntarily went to the Washington Convention Center, following an invitation sent by a fictitious television company. Flagship International Sports Television, uh, for a chance to win tickets to Superbowl 20 for the Redskins against the Bengals. 166 marshals and police officers were involved in the operation and they arrested 101 people that showed up for it.

• 1:08:47Speaker 00

  Damn. Uh, all right. My, uh, cool throne is, uh, one Connor Bedard. He is shout out RA. He had the breaking news. Captain of Blackhawks, uh, RA, I don't, he tweeted it last night and he was right. He scooped everyone. My other cool throne is, uh, the Mets, like up and coming best player. What's going on with this guy memes? Matt Mitch Voit. So Mitch Voit won, uh, I think developmental player of the year or something.

• 1:09:18Speaker 00

  Is this guy AI? Have you guys seen this guy?

• 1:09:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. Quite a hairline.

• 1:09:22Speaker 00

  He doesn't look real.

• 1:09:26Speaker 02

  Where's he from memes?

• 1:09:27Speaker 00

  What is going on memes?

• 1:09:30Speaker 05

  I don't know.

• 1:09:33Speaker 05

  That handsome guy.

• 1:09:34Speaker 00

  I think he also is, he's the same guy who pretended to snort coke on the foul line in a game, uh, college baseball game, which is pretty funny.

• 1:09:41Speaker 02

  That was, that was fair play.

• 1:09:43Speaker 00

  That, that's pretty funny. Yeah. Mitch Voit, very attractive guy, but I, he looked AI.

• 1:09:47Speaker 02

  I think he's, he's a beautiful guy.

• 1:09:49Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Zach. Oh, also Martha Stewart said she's going to start posting nudes.

• 1:09:54Speaker 02

  Let us pray.

• 1:09:56Speaker 05

  It's from the, the last place you would think.

• 1:09:58Speaker 00

  Milwaukee. Okay. Mitch Voit. Yeah. Oh yeah. Whitefish Bay High School. Shout out.

• 1:10:07Speaker 02

  So, uh, did he go to college?

• 1:10:09Speaker 00

  He went to Michigan.

• 1:10:09Speaker 02

  He's in Michigan.

• 1:10:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's a Michigan man.

• 1:10:11Speaker 02

  He's got the Tom Brady face thing going on a little bit.

• 1:10:14Speaker 00

  It's crazy. I saw that video and I was like, is he AI or something? What is going on? He's a very attractive guy.

• 1:10:22Speaker 00

  Okay, Zach.

• 1:10:23Speaker 05

  My hot seat this week is, uh, Sydney Sweeney. Sydney Sweeney is, uh, taking some heat from the women.

• 1:10:29Speaker 00

  What? How?

• 1:10:31Speaker 05

  We've got, uh, like women Olympians, other women athletes are coming after saying somehow it's like, uh, like suppressing women in sport. There's, uh, one woman.

• 1:10:41Speaker 07

  quoted, she's like, uh, muscles, hard work, blood, sweat and tears. This is what real woman athletes look like. Uh, but she clapped back with the ESPN. They do the, the nude art, the nude magazine every year.

• 1:10:51Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:52Speaker 07

  With the ESPN body issue.

• 1:10:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:10:54Speaker 07

  Uh, and so, yeah, the women are coming after her. She lost about 200,000 followers on Instagram.

• 1:10:58Speaker 02

  I think she'll be okay.

• 1:11:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, she'll be fine. It's tight. Half a percent.

• 1:11:04Speaker 00

  Titus pointed out, uh, something I hadn't really thought about, but it, it is pretty nuts that Sydney Sweeney in today's age, like has a stranglehold on the internet every time she gets semi nude.

• 1:11:18Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, she's

• 1:11:19Speaker 00

  This isn't 20 years ago when it's like, oh, the swimsuit issue was the only time we got to see shit. This is the only fans, the Instagram, like the AI Instagram, the Instagram, like there is so much being bombarded. And then when Sydney Sweeney does a commercial, like it's the world stops.

• 1:11:34Speaker 02

  She is the hot chick now.

• 1:11:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:36Speaker 02

  Like she's the only, she's the definition of a hot woman in America.

• 1:11:40Speaker 00

  But she's doing it in like the most difficult era to do it.

• 1:11:44Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:44Speaker 00

  Like Marilyn Monroe, very attractive. She did it in an era where there was like three hot girls in the world.

• 1:11:50Speaker 02

  Yeah. She's the only hot, as far as I know, she's the only attractive woman on planet earth. And everybody else, Sydney Sweeney.

• 1:11:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:56Speaker 02

  And everybody else online is just a bot.

• 1:11:58Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 1:11:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:11:59Speaker 00

  So congrats to her.

• 1:12:02Speaker 07

  With this much saturation, rising to the top.

• 1:12:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:12:05Speaker 07

  Very impressive.

• 1:12:06Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:12:07Speaker 07

  And then my cool throne this week is going to be, uh, Romania, because Romania has come out with a competitor to the, uh, power slap league, Dana Wright, or that Dana White runs.

• 1:12:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. What is it?

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  I saw it.

• 1:12:17Speaker 07

  It's, uh, the RXF slap league. They go through 10 rounds and, uh, judgment is based on impact and redness.

• 1:12:26Speaker 00

  It's ass slapping.

• 1:12:27Speaker 02

  It's just ass slapping. Yeah.

• 1:12:28Speaker 07

  10 rounds of ass slapping.

• 1:12:29Speaker 00

  10 rounds of ass slapping. Okay.

• 1:12:32Speaker 07

  He's had the championship.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  This just gave me an idea.

• 1:12:35Speaker 02

  Sydney Sweeney in this?

• 1:12:36Speaker 00

  No, no, no. I, would you guys watch like, uh, competitive dick punching league?

• 1:12:44Speaker 02

  There is. Remember we talked about that like a few months ago. It's dick kicking.

• 1:12:49Speaker 00

  I'd like to see punching.

• 1:12:50Speaker 02

  You just get

• 1:12:50Speaker 00

  I'd like to see flick, like not actually not punching, flicking.

• 1:12:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:12:54Speaker 00

  So there's an art to it. Yeah. Sack tapping. Just watching guys just rile and paint. So this is just ass slapping?

• 1:13:00Speaker 02

  I just grab ass. Yeah.

• 1:13:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay.

• 1:13:04Speaker 02

  So it's rated on what?

• 1:13:06Speaker 07

  Uh, after the 10 rounds is rated on contact and redness.

• 1:13:09Speaker 00

  This is more to Titus' point. Like we have ass slapping league. Oh.

• 1:13:13Speaker 02

  See, that's a bad slap. She missed the ass entirely. You can't do that.

• 1:13:16Speaker 00

  Yeah. But like, this is something in like, in like the late nineties, when I would have to, to time my day around, uh, uh, Brooke Burke on, on E.

• 1:13:29Speaker 02

  Mm hmm.

• 1:13:30Speaker 00

  You know, wild on.

• 1:13:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. Oh, I found a maxim in the park.

• 1:13:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, right. Like that was what we were dealing with. Now Sydney Sweeney is dominating and we've got fucking ass slapping leagues going on overseas for no reason.

• 1:13:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. How far away are we from having, we gotta be close to having the world's first like female all nude MMA competition.

• 1:13:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're working on it.

• 1:13:50Speaker 02

  That's somebody, somebody's working on that right now.

• 1:13:52Speaker 00

  They're working on it.

• 1:13:53Speaker 02

  And God, God bless that person.

• 1:13:54Speaker 07

  Like lingerie league football for just cage matches?

• 1:13:56Speaker 02

  All nude.

• 1:13:57Speaker 00

  I'm going to say something. This does nothing for me. The ass slapping league. It's just kind of, if they go 10 rounds, like what do?

• 1:14:04Speaker 02

  Well, as someone who like will never think that violence against women is funny at all, even if it's AI, I can't watch this.

• 1:14:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:12Speaker 02

  They're being too violent to each other.

• 1:14:13Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:14:14Speaker 02

  But maybe I'll watch just one more, just to make sure.

• 1:14:17Speaker 00

  All right. Good job, Zach. Good hot seat, cool throne. Should we, uh, get to our interviews? We've got Derek Carr and then Eric Morris, head coach of Oklahoma State. Before we get to our interviews, King's Hawaiian football's back, which means another season of figuring out what to eat during the game. And this year, King's Hawaiian has what you covered, has you, has you covered sliders made with King's wine really are the perfect football food. They're soft, sweet, the perfect size for sharing, not to mention just legitimately delicious. And possibly the best part, everyone loves King's wine. So it's sure to make the whole party happy. King's wine is the undisputed MVP of game day, a clear one, one pick as the best slider in football. So next

• 1:14:59Speaker 00

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• 1:15:35Speaker 00

  Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest, recurring guest. It is Derek Carr, uh, who is, uh, retired now, enjoying retirement life, doing a show with his brother called Homegrown that you can find on YouTube. Uh, Derek, great to see you. Let's talk some ball. First of all, let's talk about, have you been, has anyone reached out to you recently about, uh, coming out of retirement? Is it still on the table? We have to ask that first.

• 1:16:02Speaker 03

  You know, it's funny is people have texted, um, but I am, I'm still retired.

• 1:16:06Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:16:07Speaker 03

  I am definitely still retired, but it is great to see you guys, man.

• 1:16:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:16:10Speaker 03

  Uh, hope, hope you guys have been good, man. It's been, it's been a little bit.

• 1:16:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, I saw you, I saw you the other day, uh, on the sideline at UCLA, a special advisor to Bob Chesney. It looked like you were standing next to a guy that we are now, uh, hot on the trail to talk to, uh, Mikey, Mikey, uh, Volcano. Were you, were you next to him? What, what is he? What's his deal? We talked to Coach Chesney and we are fascinated with Mikey Volcano and want to know everything about him.

• 1:16:37Speaker 03

  He is, uh, he'll, he'll talk to you. He, he, he's got a great, he's got a great, uh, history of coaching. He's got great stories and I'm telling you that all of them, if they're all true, this guy is one of the most interesting men in the world.

• 1:16:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, we got it. We got to meet him. Uh, have you learned anything from him?

• 1:16:55Speaker 03

  Absolutely. Yeah. Oh, man. There's some things you can share, some you can't, but there is definitely some things that he has shared with us. Uh, but he's got a, he's a wealth of knowledge, man. But you guys got to have him on. He's great.

• 1:17:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, this guy sounds fascinating. To, to piggyback on what Big Cat asked you, I, I do have to ask you if, uh, you hit up Sean Payton to offer to play for the Broncos last year, uh, in the AFC championship game. We saw that news from Drew Brees yesterday. Uh, was that something that you did?

• 1:17:21Speaker 03

  I did, I did not, uh, initiate anything, but, um, I know that my agent talked to certain people and things like that, just, just to see, um, you know, where, where they were at. And, uh, and I thought that they ended up, you know, going with steady and steady. City did a great job, man. He, he's a good quarterback, but yeah, there was definitely conversations, uh, that had happened, but nothing, nothing personally for me. I was sitting on my couch, enjoying my life. That's for, that's for sure.

• 1:17:46Speaker 02

  You didn't think maybe I'll go out there, throw the ball around a couple of times, just see how the shoulder feels?

• 1:17:50Speaker 03

  I, oh, I, there was, uh, there was three times last year where I got actual real calls that I went out in the back, grabbed, I called my buddy. I was like, hey, can you come over in like 10 minutes? I gotta see if I can still do this.

• 1:18:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:00Speaker 03

  And so, uh, I, I, I've been training. I've been working out, making sure the body's right, but, uh, throwing wise, I, I, I let that rest until it's needed.

• 1:18:09Speaker 00

  All right. Can we talk about that Monday night football game? Because obviously you used to play in the AFC West, seeing, uh, I, I was, I, I kind of had forgotten how loud Arrowhead is. Uh, maybe it's just like, you know, first game and Mahomes is back, but it sounded so loud. And when you're watching that game, it looked like Bo Nix was just, I don't know what was going on with their offense. If it's, you know, the new play caller, but what, he looked very rattled and out of sorts versus what we saw at stretches last year where he looked really in command of their offense.

• 1:18:41Speaker 03

  A hundred percent. I mean, if you look at both quarterbacks, I know what it's like coming off an injury, you know, especially a surgery that you have to get. And there's some rough patches for both of them, you know, there were some things that some throws and things that they'd want back, even the first pick that Bo threw. I see what he's saying that he sees the double on Waddle. He's trying to cut it loose versus man to man. That's your end cut. You can throw it on time, especially, uh, with a rush bearing down on you. So I, I see what he was trying to do. And obviously the young kid made a play. Um, but like you guys said, it just was a little rusty. Um, and there was a lot of that in week one offensively, you know, there was, uh, I would say defensively too, tackling, you know, wasn't, wasn't the best, you know, no one plays in the preseason anymore. Yeah. So, you know, tackling, throwing and catching, blocking, all those things. So there's

• 1:19:24Speaker 03

  some procedure penalties that you, you wouldn't like to see in the NFL, but, uh, I think that they're going to be fine. I think that him, he's such a competitor. He's such a, he's such a talent, right? We see the talent. You see the arm, you see all those things. And I know one thing about Coach Payton too. If he's anything like Gruden, which I know he is, is they're going to meet for hours on the game plan this week, the, the calls, they're going to, you know, critique, you know, the, the coordinator and all those kinds of things. And, and he's going to get better, you know, I, I don't think it's going to stay the same. So, um, there's, it's not the panic button yet, but like you guys said, that's a tough environment to go to anytime.

• 1:19:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:19:58Speaker 03

  Especially coming off an injury, coming off week one, Pat's back, the crowd's into it. They got a new defense. The corner gets a pick, you know, just so much excitement was happening early that it's tough, man. It's tough to operate in that, that environment.

• 1:20:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. How much of that do you have to process in the moment? Like you, you obviously put in a game plan. You think you know what the chief's defense is going to look like going into a game like that. And then, you know, Spags is, he's a wizard. He'll, he'll switch stuff up on you. So how much is like you seeing it on the fly, that first series verse, you know, making an adjustment after you, you get off the field for the first time?

• 1:20:30Speaker 03

  Well, you know, you're exactly right on what you're saying because early on, when you play Spags, man, it is, uh, it's, it's chess, man. It's, it's mentally stressful as a quarterback because you see something, you think you got it. And then he switches just one little wrinkle up that takes something away, you know? And then you're, if you're a half, half step late, that rush, when I was playing them, they always had a rush and they're getting, they're getting home, you know? And so for, for me as a quarterback and, and for Bo, really going forward, you, you're going to, he's going to play his best games as time goes on and he learns more and he gets more reps against them, right? You're going to, you're going to realize certain things. You're going to know where you can go. You're going to know where you can't, uh, especially when the same guys, like this is a new group too, right? So Spags has new toys. When the honeymoon was there, man, he's putting him in the middle. He's going to make him rob. He's going to do crazy stuff with the cover two and

• 1:21:15Speaker 03

  all this kind of stuff. Okay. He goes, well then what kind of pressures can we bring? What's our front like? So the more you play them and it's the same guys, you'll get a feel for them and be able to play a little bit more efficiently.

• 1:21:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:21:25Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:21:26Speaker 00

  Uh, when it comes to, uh, like when we're thinking about the week one and you come out of week one, what's the mentality like winning and losing in week one? Cause we overreact as fans. We're, we're crazy. When we, when you see a team win week one, you're like, that team's never going to lose a game. When you lose, you're just like, oh man, the sky is falling. I know that you guys are really good at compartmentalizing and keeping it like, hey, next week, but is there something about like week one where it's like, oh, fuck, now we're in it again, or oh shit, we're a really good team that you take a little extra, like it means a little extra more?

• 1:22:00Speaker 03

  Yes, you're right. You know, I think that whenever you get that win in week one, it's like, cool, we got it. It's kind of like this moment of all the work you put in. Hey, we're doing the right thing. We're on the right track and you always want to make corrections from a win. You want to start the season hot. There's no doubt about that. But you get that loss, that sense of urgency, if it's not there, it wakes some people up.

• 1:22:25Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:26Speaker 03

  It's like, hey, like we, this game in September, we don't want to look at the end of this thing and be like, how did we give that one up? I remember there was a game against Green Bay my first year in New Orleans. I ended up getting hurt and I don't even remember at the end, you know, what exactly happened, but we end up losing the game, right? And we look back and we were one win out from being a playoff team.

• 1:22:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:46Speaker 03

  How much that would have changed and how that would have felt for the organization, for the fans, right? That would have been awesome, but it was one win back in September.

• 1:22:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:53Speaker 03

  You know, that we, like, man, how did we not win that game? So they all matter, but that sense of urgency, if it's not there, it has to wake some people up.

• 1:23:01Speaker 00

  It is kind of, it's why we love the NFL, that we're going into week two and it does feel like there's an actual must win for some of these teams, you know, like the, the way the Packers finished that game, that feels like a must win, like the Cowboys coming off of all that hype and then losing to the Giants, like, so I know it's not actually a must win, but you actually, like, it does feel that way.

• 1:23:24Speaker 03

  No, you're exactly right because these, especially when it's a division game, because those count for, we always, those count for double, right? You know, you're trying to chase these division games and you're trying to, you gotta, you want to win all six of those because you know it's going to help you win the wild card or the playoff standings come out. And, you know, those, those games, those hurt, man. They, they hurt deep, but the, the best thing about the week one to week two jump, especially with, again, we said already, no one plays in the preseason anymore. Like no one, nobody's playing. And so there is going to be a jump for some of these teams that we think are good. They are going to look more improved because, you know, those teams that have the good offensive line, that have the running game, the defense, that they're going to improve. Like the Dallas game, I mean, they're letting guys run free.

• 1:24:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:06Speaker 03

  Like that, that's, that's not just a physical thing. That's like, hey, let's get this corrected in the meeting, in the walkthrough, and let's not let that happen again.

• 1:24:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:14Speaker 03

  There was three running backs in a row where they, here are just free, free yards, right? And so those things can get corrected, but you know, the, the teams that should be worried are the ones that, you know, you get blown out in the first, you know, first week and you're like, oh shoot, like, do we even have the matchups? Do we even have the ability to come back from this?

• 1:24:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, I guess we could say the team that we're thinking about right now, the Browns. If you're in the Browns locker room, like what, what do you do? How do you get prepared? Because it does seem, and you know, obviously anything can happen. We've seen crazy stuff happen, but it, it seems like it's going to be an extremely long season in Cleveland. What do you do at this point? It's like you got blown out, you got no hope at the quarterback position. The owner, the guy that's writing the checks, has publicly said like, we whiffed on, on our quarterback. And then he's expected to go out there and keep starting. Like, how do you get through that season if you're on the Cleveland Browns?

• 1:25:06Speaker 03

  You know, what's hard is, you know, it's a great opportunity for the leaders of that team to step up because yes, maybe the owners against, you know, the quarterback, you know, the fans are definitely against it, you know, all, all the things can be so against you. And, and if you're wired the right way, it's not an attack at anyone. It's not an attack at the owner. It's not, I just want to prove my guys right for trusting in me, right? I want to prove my guys right. It's not, I want to prove them wrong. You get into that, well, guess what? It's going to hurt even more when you get booed again, you know, like, no, I mean, I need to rally around my guys. You guys know how it is to have some, some dudes that are close to you, that you go through something in life and you need to rally around them. You need them to encourage you. You need, you need that group. What happened with us when, you know, I remember when Gruden ended up getting fired and Rich comes in.

• 1:25:51Speaker 03

  One thing that we kept doing, me, Yannick, Max, everybody is like, we'd look around to everybody, hey, nobody cares. Nobody cares that our coach is gone. Nobody cares about this. Nobody cares about that. Nobody cares, man. It's just us. And we had this like little rallying cry of the 53 inside the locker room and it, and it took us to the playoffs, man. A team that probably shouldn't have been in the playoffs, we ended up being in the playoffs. And, and so I think there has to be a little bit of that brotherhood and unity inside that Cleveland locker room, because it's definitely not coming from outside the building.

• 1:26:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, you're right about that. Um, back to your time in, in, with Raiders, because they're going through kind of a, maybe a similar thing to what you experienced there as a rookie. They, they got a highly touted rookie they brought in and they said, we're going to give him time. Kirk Cousins is going to be the guy. And Kirk, he looked pretty good. He looked pretty decent in week one. Kind of cool to see that out of him. But like, your time with the Raiders, you were brought in and I don't know what they told you from the get go, but I remember before week one, they were just like, we're going to go with Derek and it's not like this is a week one decision. This, he's our starting quarterback. What, was the expectation when you got there that you were going to start week one? Or was that something that you kind of had to prove over the course of that camp?

• 1:27:01Speaker 03

  Yeah. As soon as I was drafted, they literally told me, hey, come in here, be the leader that you are, be the, you know, be the good teammate that you are, grind, compete, but you're not playing. I was like, all right, you know, okay, sweet. Now you're going to be the backup. You know, we're going to help groom you. We're going to build the team around you, all that kind of stuff. Well, then Matt Schaub ends up having like an elbow thing. I end up starting the last preseason game and tore it up against the Seahawks, you know, Legion of Boom defense, you know? And they were like, yeah, you're going to play. I mean, honestly, fellas, I remember getting called into the office. Dennis Allen called me in the office. I thought I got traded. Like, because they already told me, you're not playing. I knew some quarterbacks had got hurt. I was like, I played well. Maybe someone tried to trade for me, you know?

• 1:27:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:27:40Speaker 03

  I was like, welcome to the NFL. And they're like, hey, you're starting week one against Rex Ryan. I was like, sick. Cool. You couldn't give me a heads up earlier. That's great. But I remember that whole thing was a whirlwind. Now this situation is different because I, I really do believe they are trying to be patient for Fernando. Now, he came from an offense. I played pro style spread. I was in, I kind of had a leg up, you know, especially with my brother. He, he didn't throw but three passes under center at Indiana. Like, that is not going to happen in Clint's offense. He's going to have three under center in his first three probably, you know? And so for him to gain that experience, to see the preparation, how fast the game is compared to preseason, it's different now. Like that speed, that rush, those windows are closing.

• 1:28:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:28:24Speaker 03

  And so for him to experience that before he has to step out there, the longer Kirk can play well, we hope he goes the whole year. But it'll be a, it'll be a good thing for Fernando going forward.

• 1:28:34Speaker 00

  I had a question about that because I think one of the things we saw week one was, you know, a lot of quarterbacks going under center a lot more. Joe Burrow went under center a lot more. Lamar, I think, actually was under center more than he's ever been in his career in a single game. How hard is it to learn how to go under center, like a quarterback? Because it, it does feel like a lot of quarterbacks in college just never do it and they, they're at a disadvantage when they get there. And then like, from a, a game perspective, from, from playing quarterback, how important is it to be under center a lot of the time? And, and for you, like reading defenses and being able to give them multiple looks?

• 1:29:10Speaker 03

  Yeah, 100%. And that's, that's the most important part is we have to be able to be balanced on offense. If they know that the quarterback in the shotgun is going to be in that place, you know, seven yards behind the center, it's really hard to stop those guys from getting there on the rush, right? Like, we got to be able to move the pocket. The best way to do it's under center, play action, bootlegs, screens. Can I get under center? Instead, they think run. Now we have quick game. I got my one on ones. They're trying to fit the run. They're thinking run. Boom, I got one on ones. It's an easier throw. The, the tough, the, the biggest adjustment is going to be turning your back to the defense. I, like I said, the, the, the defense is so fast. These windows close so quick compared to college, right? And I played in the Mountain West, but I did play some SEC schools, all

• 1:29:52Speaker 03

  right? And they, those windows were closing, but and you get to the NFL and you're like, I don't even know where that guy came from.

• 1:29:58Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:29:58Speaker 03

  Right? And when you're first in the league and imagine turning your back to the defense, flipping your head around and they're like, make the decision, like, let's go. And you're like, I've never seen this before, you know? And so there is a learning curve. Like on our show, I, I encourage our Raider fans and like, just have some patience because can he do it? Yes, he's going to be able to do it, but you need a thousand reps of that before it ever becomes natural.

• 1:30:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. And now like, so you're, you're helping out with UCLA, your special advisor, you're helping out with some of the quarterback stuff. Are you guys, are you, are you trying to help Nico be like, hey, we got to learn some under center? Or if, let me ask it this way, because it's not your program, but if you were coaching, if you're OCing in college, would you emphasize playing under center more to get these guys better prepared for the pros?

• 1:30:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, let's, let's say it this way. If me and Philip Rivers are getting calls and we are happily retired men last year.

• 1:30:51Speaker 00

  True.

• 1:30:52Speaker 03

  You know, like there, there is a quarterback issue of development going on, right? Like, let's just be an honest.

• 1:30:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:30:59Speaker 03

  Like there's no, there's no reason we should be getting called. We're, we're more expensive. We're older. You know, we're not as fast, you know, like there's no reason, but there is a reason that they're calling us because we know how to play the game.

• 1:31:09Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:31:10Speaker 03

  And so, you know, there's, there should be no reason that the practice squad guy on every NFL roster should be getting developed, be able to go out there and execute at a high level, like at least complete some passes right now. Now, there's, there's an issue going on because these guys are jumping colleges. They can't just stay in a system and learn and grow like I was able to, like Philip was, like a lot of these guys were able to. So there's that going on, but for me, yes, I would be, we'd have to be under center. Like I, I, it's not just about, you know, winning and the program. You want to do that, but it's also about the development of the young kid, right? I want him to have a career that changes his family's life. And the best way to do that at the quarterback position is being able to do both.

• 1:31:50Speaker 00

  So which are the, which are the young quarterbacks in the league right now impress you the most week one?

• 1:31:56Speaker 03

  Oh, man. Week one. You know, I was actually, people are, people will say, I don't know. CJ Stroud showed me something going against Buffalo that I was actually impressed with because he came back and it was a tough game. Now, he wasn't perfect, but there were some throws in that game and I know it helps having Nico back. That, that, that helps everybody having that run game back. But CJ did some good things. Bryce Young continues to do things where I'm like, bro, they go out there and score 30 something points and lost the game. Like, that's not on Bryce, you know, like, he played great, you know, there was, you know, he had the turnover and those kind of things. But there are some plays there where you watch these guys that we're really hard on, right? And, and of course their quarterbacks were gonna be, but they're making some plays where they're, they're, you see some growth out of them

• 1:32:41Speaker 03

  that I didn't see before. And so I hope that those two can, can catch, catch the right footing and, and, and take those, those franchises where they need to be because not yet CJ, it's hard. They didn't get a contract done, you know, you know, how's it gonna go in Cincinnati? Or do they want Borough? Are they gonna try to like, all those questions are gonna start popping up. And so for these guys, I know that they're focused and I hope that they play really well, but you know, those aren't two names that everyone's like super excited about, but I'm excited to see what they do because some of the things they showed.

• 1:33:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, for sure. And, and I was hoping, because I remember when you did the, the Brazil game last year, you broke out a little John Gruden, a little John Gruden impression of your old coach. Can you give us a little John Gruden breakdown, maybe of CJ or Bryce?

• 1:33:22Speaker 03

  I tell, yeah, absolutely. I can. I always tell people, I was like, Gruden is the little voice inside my head. Like, he, he literally is like that voice, like, hey, Gar, make sure that you tell your kids to go to bed, man. All right?

• 1:33:40Speaker 03

  It's, it's that voice in my head. It's like, we'll be doing our show and guys are like, dude, stop with the Gruden. I'm like, I genuinely can't stop. It just comes out.

• 1:33:47Speaker 02

  I think that's, that's why McVeigh talks like that now because he spent time around him and now he's got like the natural, like inflection in his voice. And honestly, we can't afford Coach Gruden anymore. He's doing his own show with his brothers. So I was hoping to just have you kind of impersonate him and you could be our, our new Gruden.

• 1:34:02Speaker 00

  He, it happens to everyone who's around him though. Jake Malisek, one of our guys who's now Gruden's assistant. He will, he will throw in an extra man on stuff and you're like, where'd that come from, dude? You've never talked like this.

• 1:34:15Speaker 03

  Hey, I'm telling you, he would come in the room every time and we, we'd come off one of these, we'd talk about week one losses. If we ever had a week one loss or an early loss, you're like, hey, Gar, we didn't lose the game, man. We just ran out of time.

• 1:34:30Speaker 02

  I love it. Did he ever, did he ever have any like crazy motivational stunts like, like burying a football, burning game film? Any, any of that crazy shit, like having a funeral for the game plan?

• 1:34:41Speaker 03

  No, he, now he, he was very good at moving on. He was good at that. But I will say that when we did beat the Chiefs, it was true that we drove around Arrowhead a couple of times. He, he told, hey, bus driver, go around again, man. Everyone's like, dang. But he definitely, we definitely did that.

• 1:34:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's gotta be weird for the Raiders. We haven't really talked about it too much since, since the game started, but it's gotta be really strange for, for Max to come back there and to still be like playing, being as intense as ever, being a team leader, knowing that like, hey, you got dumped, but please come back and please continue to be the leader and the captain that you, you've always been for us. That's gotta be a weird situation inside that locker room, right?

• 1:35:22Speaker 03

  It 100% is now knowing Max, any awkwardness at all, he just is gonna come out right in front of it and be like, fellas, I got traded, I'm back, let's ball. And then like, that's it, you know, like it's, he's not gonna dance around it. It's not gonna be awkward in the locker room. I'm sure he addressed it, but I definitely, we had some good texts back and forth. I said, good luck in Baltimore. And I was like, just kidding, you know, like it's over. But we knew Max was gonna come out humming like that. That's what's so crazy. You make the decision as Baltimore to trade for Max and we all know what he is as a player. You know, his knee is hurt. You're gonna fail him on a physical, although you already agreed to it, like something's up, bro. Like I'm not buying it. I'm not buying that.

• 1:36:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's pretty fucked up that they were, they knew that, like, I think they knew they had an out there just waiting to get some sort of confirmation on, on the Hendrickson thing.

• 1:36:11Speaker 00

  And he was so good in week one, Max. Like that was a game. He does that a few times a year where it's just, the game just becomes Max Crosby.

• 1:36:19Speaker 02

  Would he like hit you in practice? Because I've heard some, some things about him that like he gets intense sometimes, right?

• 1:36:25Speaker 03

  He absolutely does. Him and I, so me and Max are really close. He's one of my, he's one of my good friends and he would never hit me. Now, he would, he would throw the lineman and he would do some extra stuff and disrupt plays and hit the running backs and all that. But for whatever reason, I, I told everybody, I was like, you know, Max, we had a certain level of respect. He didn't touch me, you know? But as he gets older, we get grumpier. I know that as you become a veteran and as you get more grumpy, you just stop caring. So if I, if I was still there, he probably would have hit me at some point.

• 1:36:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. Was there any other teams that, that impressed you week one? Are you, are you watching the, are you sitting down and watching the tape after, after every game?

• 1:37:02Speaker 03

  I am, man. Again, that's part of the Gruden in me. I gotta learn ball, man. I, I just, I watch film. I, I love it. You know, I wanna see what guys are doing. I wanna see the new trends. What are the new blitzes? What are the new things on offense? And so really impressed with the 49ers, really, really impressed. And you know, the whole travel thing, all that, I don't really care about that. You still gotta put the ball down and play, you know, and what they showed, the, the dispersion of the football. It wasn't just one guy, right? It wasn't just Christian in the backfield, you know, they got the young running back. They got, you know, the, you know, DeMarcus going down the field. They got Debo, they got Kittle. Kittle's gonna keep getting healthier and look good and hopefully the young receiver's gonna be okay. But you know, there's so much talent there, but the most impressive part was Purdy just distributing the football, right?

• 1:37:46Speaker 03

  Like that, that, that right there is like, he was like MVP. Like I sent a group text. I said, here's our MVP. Like he genuinely has that kind of shot this year playing like that. So I'm excited to watch him. I, I loved Baltimore. The, the first, getting Lamar under center again, what that does to the defense, like imagine being the defensive end. Do I crash down and try and tackle Derrick Henry who's bigger than me? Or do I stay wide and play the boot, which he's gonna outrun me if I'm one step off like that? That right there got me so fired up, the old school under center of me. And then seeing Pat under center and that run game. Like Pat's gonna be more efficient. He's gonna, they're gonna keep growing, but if they can run the football like that, I don't remember a time playing against them. They could run the ball like that since they had Jamal Charles. Like that, that, that was impressive.

• 1:38:31Speaker 00

  It was, I, I said it like four, four plays into the game. I was like, this is the best running back they've had, maybe since like the year one Kareem Hunt. And that was just four plays, just through four plays. You could see the explosiveness and what that's gonna do to that team. It's gonna be, they're, the bad man is back. It feels like, and he's gonna get even healthier and healthier and fuck, man.

• 1:38:52Speaker 02

  I think the real test is gonna be, will Andy Reid stick to running the football? Because Andy, he loves, he loves to kind of steer away from the run. And part of that might be that he hasn't had a, a running back that looks as good as Kenneth Walker does. But like, he needs somebody to say next to him, be like, hey, Andy, don't forget to hand the ball if you get a good running back now. So you don't have to throw it every down.

• 1:39:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. You know what? That's a, that's a great point that you bring up because a lot of those guys come from that, you know, that homegrown tree. You know, you got Gruden, you know, Andy, you know, you think of Sean Payton, you think of all these guys, they love throwing the football now. Cause they got, they know they got the best plays in the world. They know that they know how to shred your defense. They know your rules better than you know them, right? They wanna get to it, but you're exactly right. Can they stay consistent when maybe the first two runs are, you know, second and eight, ah, you know, third and seven? Like, can we still stick with the run the next series? That, that's gonna be the thing to watch for sure.

• 1:39:41Speaker 00

  I, I don't know if we brought this up when we talked to you in Tahoe, but you hit a hole in one with no one there?

• 1:39:48Speaker 00

  That sucks, dude.

• 1:39:50Speaker 03

  It was, it was so bad. I was in, I was in Las Vegas at Southern Highlands. Shout out to my homies at Southern Highlands. But there was a group playing behind me and there was a group in front of me. Well, on this certain part three on 12, once they leave, they, they can't see the green. And the people behind me ended up hitting a right and ending their day. Well, I thought they were waiting. So I hit my shot, it hits, it goes in. I'm like, oh, shoot. I'm going crazy. I'm like, oh my goodness. I turn around like they're gonna be behind me and I see their cart driving the other way.

• 1:40:22Speaker 03

  So I walk in the clubhouse. I was like, fellas, y'all know me, man. I'm not gonna lie to you. They're like, what happened? I was like, I hit a hole in one. I was like, I promise. And so they ended up giving me like a little ball and like a flag and stuff. But yeah, it happened, but no one saw it except me.

• 1:40:36Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 1:40:37Speaker 02

  That's your only one?

• 1:40:38Speaker 00

  I mean, I will say that it's a testament to you as a person that I believe you, like, like there's some quarterbacks that if they said they hit a hole in one, I'd be like, I don't know. But you, you're, you're a stand-up guy, but that's, that's crazy. You had no one there to celebrate with and you're just like, well, this, no one, no one's looking at it, like not even to have one person with you? Fuck.

• 1:40:58Speaker 03

  Oh, bro, it was the worst, bro. I, I ended up, I was like, guys, I'm done for the day. I'm going home. Don't care about none of the, nothing else. I grabbed the ball. I drive home and I'm like, babe, guess what? I hit a hole in one. She's like, I'm so proud of you. Like, what do you want for dinner? I'm like, no, I hit a hole in one.

• 1:41:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, that'd be, that'd be so tough. I would almost just like sit my ass on the tee box until the next group got up there. And then I'd be like, hey, come walk to the green.

• 1:41:24Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:25Speaker 03

  That's our great point. Honestly, fail by me. That's what I should have done.

• 1:41:28Speaker 02

  Yeah. But yeah, no, I do believe that you gotta, but if you were to like, who else was in your draft class? Blake, I would believe Blake Bortles, if he said he got one. Johnny Manziel.

• 1:41:39Speaker 00

  Maybe.

• 1:41:41Speaker 02

  I, I believe that he believes he got a hole in one, but I'm gonna have to check it officially.

• 1:41:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:47Speaker 02

  Make sure it went in there.

• 1:41:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:49Speaker 03

  That's good.

• 1:41:49Speaker 00

  I think that's, yeah, I think that's a good way to put it, PFT.

• 1:41:52Speaker 02

  Uh, what, what about, um, back, back to the NFL, uh, what about like from week one, any quarterbacks that you saw? That you thought to yourself like this is gonna take some work.

• 1:42:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, I think, um, you know, one of the things that I wouldn't say worried me, but we already talked about Bo Nix. Like with, with a guy like Sean in the room, not calling the plays. Now I know he's gonna, I don't know if he's withholding himself or if he's shending ideas, you know, through the headset and Bo is such a dynamic player. But that, that one worried me a little bit. Like you, you got Sean Payton, that'd be like having for me, like John Gruden in the room and you're asking someone else to call the plays. I'm like, man, I, I'm the quarterback. I'll be like, man, please, you know, cause Gruden, that, what people don't understand, like Gruden and these guys like that have done it forever. They have such a feel of the game in these coordinators. Gruden in the headset one time, multiple times really, but just example, we're playing, I think it was the Dolphins. He was like, hey,

• 1:42:46Speaker 03

  let's go, uh, 58 Z in here. Hey, they're gonna bring internal pressure play. Man, just be ready for this through right here. I break the huddle and I'm like, yep, there's the through. Boom. It's, you know, 40 yard gain. Like I was like, that's, that's insane. Like just those little nuggets that help you as a quarterback. Cause that was just an alert. The read was over here. He's like, no, just be ready for the through. And there it was. Like, yeah, those things make a difference in the game. So that, that one for me is probably the biggest one that stands out cause they're, they're such a good team. And I know that's not how they wanted to start, but I, I'm interested to see how they bounce back. And if, if we can get like, while the plays coming in, like after he calls it, is Sean's relaying stuff, you know, to the coordinator at the same time. Like that'll be interesting to me.

• 1:43:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, it is. It's a fascinating situation because I, I think I admire what Sean Payton's doing, like the spirit of what he, he wants to kind of bring. He sees promise and in his coordinator, and he wants to give him an opportunity to grow. And, and there's probably no better place to do that than, you know, with, with Sean Payton's supervision. But at the same time, if you're Bo Nix, you're like, hey, I have a, I have a job to do. And this is kind of my career that's on the line right now. And so I, I prefer to not be part of an experiment when we have a, a, a great play caller. So I don't know what they're gonna do about that. If there's any room for compromise or, or like if, if Sean Payton then has the last word and can override his, his coordinator, then does that just completely neuter the coordinator in everybody's eyes?

• 1:44:07Speaker 03

  Yeah, that, that, that's exactly right. You know, that, that to me is, you know, I'm thinking as a quarterback, right? Like again, I got Sean Payton in the room. I would like to hear that voice. Now that's not going against anything that the, you know, Davis is doing or anything. I think he's a great coach. I think he's gonna be awesome. Right? There's a growth there, but there's also a sense of urgency as a quarterback. Hey, we were just in the AFC championship. Like it wasn't like we had a rough year, you know, like this is a, this is a good thing and you wanna grow from that. But that, that, that'll just be interesting one for, I think for all of us to watch and keep an eye on.

• 1:44:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. What, uh, what is a special advisor to a coach?

• 1:44:40Speaker 03

  Yeah, that's a great, that's a great question.

• 1:44:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, what, what, are you going there every day? Like it sounds like an awesome job.

• 1:44:46Speaker 03

  No, it's been amazing. And, and so literally, you know, I, it was whatever we wanted to make it, right? Now, what, what Coach Chesney has done is he opened the door for me to come in. I wanted head coaching experience. Like I was like, man, I want to learn from you. I wanna, and, and then if there's any value I can provide, which I think I can, and with the team, I wanna be able to do that for you. And so, man, I help, you know, with, with some game planning type stuff, you know, helping the coordinator. If they use it, if they don't, great. You know, it's just ideas and things that I'm seeing and trends I'm seeing from us and things we can do that maybe could help. Then helping Nico personally, and then, uh, you know, just asking questions, you know, I'm a part of the recruiting. I'm learning that part also.

• 1:45:26Speaker 03

  I'm in there with the GM, Derek Ray, who's a good buddy of mine since college. And he's been, you know, open door, man. Like they, they literally said the door, every door is open. Whatever you wanna know, whatever you wanna learn. And I was like, dude, this is like the dream job of someone that wants to be a head coach someday.

• 1:45:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:41Speaker 03

  Like you're allowing me at a big 10 school against or with, with Coach Chesney, who I think we all can agree is a great leader, uh, of men and a great teacher of football. Um, it, it's just a great experience. Now I get to do a lot of the work from home. I can come down to the games. I can come to practice, whatever we got. Um, you know, I'm, I'm still coaching my kids. I told him, I was like, I still gotta be able to coach my kids. Little, you know, little, uh, youth football team. And they're like, of course, please continue to do that. And, uh, and so it's really been a way to stay involved and really provide value at the same time, learn. And so they, they were wide open, man. Like Coach Chesney was like, I never met him before, guys. And he was like, the answer is yes. Now come down, let's figure it out.

• 1:46:21Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 1:46:22Speaker 03

  That, that takes a lot of a leader, man. So I was really impressed by that.

• 1:46:25Speaker 00

  That's great.

• 1:46:26Speaker 02

  Do you have an open door policy as well?

• 1:46:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, you guys are more than welcome, man.

• 1:46:31Speaker 02

  Cause if, if, if the door's open, I, I just like, give, give the ball to Wayne Knight. That would be my recommendation. Just hand the ball to that dude and let him cook.

• 1:46:40Speaker 03

  Did you, those running backs, man, I, I, that's, that was their most, uh, I would say senior group, right? They've been together a while and I was watching these guys in practice and I was looking around, we're doing seven on seven. I was like, we need to be at nine on seven. We need to be handing the ball to these three guys. Like this, this is insane.

• 1:46:56Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. They're, they're really good. So you have, you have like a, a very unique, uh, I think probably skillset from being around the college game now. And then, um, being in, in the pros for so long. And I always think of like the, the college game, at least on offense, tends to influence the, uh, NFL game in about like five or 10 years lag. And eventually those concepts start to make their way to the pros. What are you seeing right now in terms of college offenses that you think are gonna make their way to, uh, the NFL in the next few years?

• 1:47:24Speaker 03

  Well, the biggest one was we saw the quarterback run game, right? That, that's, that's the number one thing. You see all these quarterbacks running around. And every time they do, I'm like, you can't play, that's the only position you can't play with a sore right shoulder. And so what you start to see is, uh, the, the timing of it, you know, when are we gonna run the quarterback? When are we, you know, you saw it in multiple games last week, inside that five yard line, you have an extra hat running your quarterback, right? The, you know, there's a, there's not a free hitter. And so there's a certain thing going on there. I also see this trend of NFL pass concepts coming back to college, which excites me because I think that college and pros can see that there's a, there's a need for something more than just bubbles, right? You know, there's a need for, like we, I don't need to just see guys throwing bubble screens.

• 1:48:09Speaker 03

  You know, you ask talent evaluators, it's so hard to grade these quarterbacks. You know, you could look at Ohio State and your guys are running wide open. Well, it's like, yeah, that's, that's pretty easy, you know, to throw to Jeremiah Smith against Ball State or, you know, like that. It's hard to see that on a go route. You know, they wanna see concepts. Can you get through a progression? Do you see the defense? And I'm seeing some of that coming back and it's really exciting for me for the quarterbacks in college, because I think they'll be more prepared going forward. So I agree with you. You always see this flow of college going into the pros. I starting to see a little trickle backwards of guys starting to get into some pro style concepts, which it's only gonna help these guys future down the road.

• 1:48:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, well, Derek, this has been awesome. We got one last question. Roback, uh, question, R H O B A C K dot com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Qs, Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com promo code take. Let's definitely do this again later on in the season. It's great to have you on Talk Ball. Uh, Zach, go ahead.

• 1:49:04Speaker 02

  How you doing, sir? I did have a quick question for you.

• 1:49:06Speaker 03

  Yeah, absolutely, Zach.

• 1:49:07Speaker 02

  During your career, uh, which, uh, when it comes to home games, which fan base maybe had the, the nerves going in terms of like pressure to perform more? Was it with the Raiders or was it with the Saints?

• 1:49:19Speaker 03

  Well, that's a great question. I think that there was, there was so much pressure on us, you know, with, with, with the Saints. I'll say Saints is my answer, but Raiders was, we were coming from such a hole, right? We were coming from such a hole that I remember throwing for a first down and the crowd blew up like, wow. And I was like, we're gonna have more of that. You know, like it's all right. When we were with the Saints, you're coming from a Hall of Fame quarterback and they're used to seeing 40 points a game, right? And then they have a few quarterbacks in between and then I get there and, and we ended up having a winning record, but it felt, it didn't feel like that because that's not the expectation. And so it was, it was awesome to be a part of, but there was a lot of, a lot of pressure there to get it done as a team.

• 1:49:59Speaker 03

  Because of the, the way that that one Rams play happened, uh, there was pass interference. I believe I can say that without getting fined now. You know, back in the day. So the fans are still feeling that, right? They're, they're still, you know, missing out on these playoffs and this kind of stuff. And so there was a lot of pressure there on our team. Um, now it didn't affect us, you know, but there, but you could definitely have this sense of feel. That man, when, when's it gonna happen again? And so we got, we got super close. And then my second year there, I thought we had a real chance to actually make a run and win the Superbowl until we all got hurt, you know? Like we had that team, that's one of the best teams I was ever on talent wise, and we had a real chance, but then we all started breaking stuff. But that, that's a really good question.

• 1:50:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. Great question. What did you, did you know that that would be a, a fumble when Jared Goff fumbled this last weekend? Or did you think that's an incomplete pass? What would they call against you?

• 1:50:51Speaker 03

  Oh, especially if I'm with the Raiders, that's a fumble and a touchdown.

• 1:50:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:50:55Speaker 03

  We all, we all know how that one's ended. Like that, like I'm pretty sure if I threw the ball backwards without getting hit, that's a fumble too.

• 1:51:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:51:03Speaker 03

  So I was like, like I love golf. He knows that, but that's a touchdown Saints any day of the week.

• 1:51:08Speaker 02

  It feels like that type of stuff only happens against the Saints.

• 1:51:11Speaker 00

  We got Gasly.

• 1:51:11Speaker 02

  Where everyone in America was like, I've, we've watched a ton of football. That is, I think that's a fumble. I'm pretty sure it's a fumble.

• 1:51:18Speaker 03

  I completely agree. That one got me. I was like, that's that touchdown. What are we doing?

• 1:51:22Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. Well, Derek, thanks, man. We appreciate it so much. Uh, everyone again, go check out, oh, what's up? How's it going?

• 1:51:31Speaker 00

  Are you still, you still block me on Twitter?

• 1:51:36Speaker 03

  They hit me with that last time.

• 1:51:37Speaker 00

  Thousand percent. Hold on, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look, I'm gonna look. Hang on. Cause I know Derek, you do still block me, but I told you to still block me.

• 1:51:43Speaker 03

  I thought we fixed it.

• 1:51:44Speaker 02

  No, no, no, I know. I said, it's a good idea that you block me. You don't need to be exposed to my thoughts. If I have anything, if I have anything important, I'll tell Big Cat and then he'll, he'll let you know about it.

• 1:51:55Speaker 03

  The sound, the sound went out.

• 1:51:57Speaker 00

  I think you blocked me.

• 1:51:58Speaker 02

  Let's see. David Carr. No, David Carr, you do not block. Oh no, that's the David Carr from the New York Times, R I P.

• 1:52:04Speaker 00

  Okay, hold on. All right. Your, your other brother definitely blocks all of us. No, I'm not blocked. All right. Cool. I'm good. You're unblocked. I'm unblocked. I think that's the third brother. He's got me blocked. Yeah. He's got everyone blocked.

• 1:52:21Speaker 03

  He blocks everybody. Yeah.

• 1:52:26Speaker 03

  He blocks everybody. Hey, go Bush. All right. Go Bush.

• 1:52:29Speaker 00

  Oh, are you, are you guys, you guys Bush fans?

• 1:52:32Speaker 03

  We're rooting for you guys.

• 1:52:33Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:52:34Speaker 03

  Rooting for you.

• 1:52:34Speaker 00

  Unshaven. That's, that's amazing. Yeah. I love that. Are you guys gamers?

• 1:52:38Speaker 03

  No, big time. 2K is our game right now. We're playing 2K.

• 1:52:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Fuck yeah. All right. So we gotta get you. We gotta get a Bush, uh, Carr brother collab. That'd be fun.

• 1:52:47Speaker 03

  We, we would, we would thoroughly enjoy that.

• 1:52:48Speaker 00

  Okay. Awesome. Awesome. Well, thanks so much, Derek. Good to see you, David. We'll see you guys. All right. All right.

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  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is head coach of Oklahoma State Football, Eric Morris. Coach, thank you for joining us. Congrats on a big, big win against Oregon on Saturday. That was a lot of fun to watch. What, let's start here. What is the last two weeks been? Because the last, you know, week one, the team obviously came out a little flat and then you, you play Oregon who is picked by a lot of people to win the national championship and you guys not only beat them, but you kinda, you kinda dominated the game. So the whirlwind for your first two games, Oklahoma State, has to be insane.

• 1:55:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, not the way we want to start. That's for sure. And I think just the ebbs and flows of football. Obviously, this is my third gig, you know, third program I've taken over where, where they were in a bad spot. And I went 0-2 at my, my first gig, incarnate word, 0-2 to start the season at North Texas. So I've been in this spot before. Obviously, we've got a lot of new players. So many teaching moments from that first game and, and you know, we challenged these guys in every which way possible over the course of the last week. And I think, you know, that's how it is. We had all these offseason hype and we brought a lot of big time players with us, you know, and Drew and Caleb and all these names. They've been told how good they were for the last, you know, nine months and they

• 1:56:00Speaker 07

  got punched in the mouth and it didn't go very well for us. And so they stood up to the challenge. Great week of preparation last week. They were dialed in, locked in. You know, in my mind, just I think it's better to go simple when, when you have this much because everybody, you know, was telling me how many problems we had, which we did at a lot of different levels. And so as opposed to try to put a lot on them, we simplified everything and our guys played extremely hard and we physically dominated that game at the line of scrimmage on both sides of the ball.

• 1:56:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was awesome to watch. What was your, your message at, right before kickoff? Because it did seem like your team played with their hair on fire, like they were motivated, they were angry, they had a little edge to them. What was the last thing you told them as the final message?

• 1:56:45Speaker 07

  Well, I mean, it started a week ago in, in our Monday morning, telling the truth and letting them see, right? And the people who we thought were the alphas on our team got dominated in the trenches against Tulsa. So I think it was the build. We, we went a little more old school in practice. We went outside every day, didn't use the indoor, super physical during the week. And then once we got to it, usually, you know, for us to evaluate our performance after the game, we have eight check marks that we try to hit each week that I think are super important. And those were in this game, too. But I threw all those out the window. I told the, the players, I said, hey, a coach isn't allowed to grade you on technique. He isn't allowed to grade you on an assignment. I said, you

• 1:57:27Speaker 07

  get, you get one of two things. You either played really fast that play or you didn't play fast. And so that's how we graded our team. We simplified the whole thing. And, and, and our kids bought into it and it was fun to see just the emotion, the raw emotion. You know, we had some success early, which I think allowed our fans to get involved. Our fans were phenomenal, our student section, our alumni. So happy for them, right? It's been a long time for a storied program that, you know, had 18 straight years of success and used to winning games and big games like that. The last two years, they just haven't felt that in a while. And so I'm extremely excited, not only for our players, but for our fan base to get that feeling back in Stillwater.

• 1:58:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Did you, are you opposed to burying a football or burying the tape? Because we love when coaches do that. Did you think about doing anything like that after the Tulsa game before the Oregon game?

• 1:58:19Speaker 07

  No, exactly the opposite. Actually, there were so many great teaching moments off that tape. And so, you know, I think that our kids, you know, they were embarrassed by it in so many different levels. And so I think challenging them and they responded in the right way and came out and they had a lot to prove. And especially, you know, against a defensive line as good as Oregon, right? And we're a couple of guys down. I mean, our left tackle goes down first drive last week and playing a backup left tackle, our right guard gets hurt, you know, in the second quarter. And it was just like next man up and like nobody flings, which is incredible to see.

• 1:58:54Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it was a, it was an awesome job. You might be the first, maybe you'd be interested in burning this tape, like after a big win. Yeah. Like too much rat poison.

• 1:59:03Speaker 07

  Yeah, I'll be more, I think that's a good idea. I might, I might take that with me.

• 1:59:09Speaker 02

  Don't get high on your own supply. Yeah. And one thing I love about Oklahoma State is the home field advantage when the team is rocking, when it's, when you got a good program there. The student section, not just that, the entire environment in Stillwater seems like one of the best in college football. When you get a night game there, I've always said, the sky is darker at night in Stillwater than it is anywhere else in the country. It's like a neon black that, that envelops the stadium. And if you can get that crowd rocking, Oklahoma State's going to be a ton of fun to watch this year. And if you're not familiar with you and the program there, maybe some people's first introduction to you came last week when ESPN sent a push notification to our phones saying that you had shot and killed an armadillo.

• 1:59:51Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:59:52Speaker 02

  It was, it was national news. ESPN thought that it was important that we all find out about this. Like we didn't, America needed to know instantly that the armadillo was dead. I didn't realize you had a bit of a rivalry. Were you stalking this armadillo?

• 2:00:05Speaker 07

  Yeah, I was, it was getting after my yard pretty good. I'm from Texas and usually, you know, wild hogs is, is kind of what roots everything up. I thought it was a wild hog. I just had no clue. My yard guy, I called him and asked him if I had a hog problem. He started laughing and said, no, you got a bad armadillo problem. So just couldn't sleep one night during camp, 2:30 in the morning, got up and, and, you know, it was, it was, we, I finally won the match. Now ironically, you know, I had a lot of people, a lot of family in town, 50 plus, and everybody come over to the house to celebrate. One of my nephews, 16 years old, we were about to go to bed at 12 and he said, I wonder if there's another armadillo out there. And lo and behold, there was Saturday night. And

• 2:00:51Speaker 07

  so it was, we, we, we got one more.

• 2:00:54Speaker 00

  I love it. It's pretty, victory armadillo.

• 2:00:56Speaker 02

  What'd you use? What'd you use to take that sucker down? They got, they got that thick shell.

• 2:01:02Speaker 07

  I have a nice little AR that, that's a nut. It's a good match for the armadillo.

• 2:01:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I got a question for you. So your nickname is, is the Elf, given to you by Mike Leach, who, rest in peace, all time football guy. We, we had him on the show. We loved talking with him. How did you get that nickname? And, and maybe, do you have a story about Mike Leach? Because every time we talk to someone who's been influenced by Mike Leach or was around Mike Leach, it's clear the impact he's had on football across America.

• 2:01:35Speaker 07

  I did a lot of soul searching this past week and I'm so thankful and blessed that Mike gave me my first job at Washington State. And so thinking back at rebuilding that culture at Wazoo when he got there, which is in such a bad place. And Mike was super militant, like behind the scenes. I mean, if you weren't accountable and didn't do things right on a day to day basis, like you weren't going to play for him. And so I remember I was the receivers coach and I think it was week two, we weren't very good to start with. And two of my best receivers weren't, weren't doing what they were supposed to do and not being accountable to the team. And he walked in my office and told me he cut my best two players that were there. We weren't too good to start with. And so I'm like, holy smokes, like what am I going to do now? Right? And, but over the course of the year, I saw.

• 2:02:21Speaker 07

  Why he did it and and the effect that it had and how he was able to build that that program and turn it into to what it was there for five or six years. But I got the good ball, bad ball, which I still do. We were playing Oklahoma my senior year. And so he paused the film and I was dipping underneath a linebacker, ended up making a great play on on a four vertical route. So when he paused it, I looked tiny on it. I'm always, I'm a small guy in statute. Someone in the back said, Hey, look, it's a midget. And in in my cleats form, you know, he could think on his on his toes better than anybody. He's like, no, no, no. No little people can do magical things besides

• 2:03:01Speaker 07

  elves. He will now be known as the magical elf. And so after that, it's a true story. So the next Thursday, I I show up for Thursday practice and my whole uniform is green. He had bought me and ordered out a green jersey, green tights, green shorts, obviously at Tech were red and black. He had taped elf ears on the outside of my helmet. And so I go in his office, I'm like, Mike, come on, man. I'm not. And and this is the best we'd ever been. 2008, we were number two in the nation. And I said, I'm not wearing this for practice. And he was like, that's fine. You're not going to play.

• 2:03:35Speaker 07

  So for for three or four weeks, the last three or four weeks of the season, you know, we'd practice a serious practice on Thursday. Everybody's supposed to be mentally focused. And there I am running around with a green costume with elf ears taped on the outside of my house.

• 2:03:49Speaker 00

  That's unreal. I love that. And all the stories about Mike Leach, they're all fascinating to me. And, you know, some of the ways that you implement, kind of like build off what you learn from him, it's always fascinating because you seem to have found a good mixture of like explosive offensive football, but also like being extremely physical. And I'm always curious about like, guys philosophies when it comes to offensive football. Some people look at and say, oh, this is a finesse team, blah, blah, blah. But also maintaining like the mentality of we're going to punch you in the mouth and we're going to be strong and tough. And we're also going to be fast and score a lot of points.

• 2:04:26Speaker 07

  Yes, I really went back and study when I first got my head first head coaching job at Incarnate Word, I went and studied just what the difference was in in some of the top offenses and the people who were winning championships. And so as I did that, the biggest thing I could find, you know, it was Clemson at the time that was spread, winning national championships and LSU. So as I studied those, you know, with Mike, we were rushing the ball for about 50 to 70 yards per game. Same thing when I worked for Cliff Kingsbury at Texas Tech. And we are the number one offense in the nation, but it didn't translate to championships, right? And so the people that were winning championships, but also had a spread, you know, fun offense, they were rushing the ball for about 150, 170. So we're about 100 yards off that mark. And I think, you know, I just adopted

• 2:05:10Speaker 07

  that mentality and knew that was something that was going to be important to us. Started using tight ends. I mean, I always felt like I had a PhD in throwing the football just because the people I learned under, like my mentors, you know, my three position coaches in college were Lincoln Riley, Dana Holerson, and Sonny Dykes. Those were my position coaches. And so like, I knew how to throw and catch the football, right? There was this other aspect. And I just think it's made our team so much tougher. Not only has it made us better in the offensive side of the ball, but like our defenses have gotten better just because, you know, they got to face it every day.

• 2:05:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. So so one of the guys you coached was Patrick Mahomes. When you were coaching him at Texas Tech, did you have any idea? Did you see that? Were you like, oh, man, this is going to be something that's special and one of the best quarterbacks in the NFL? Or was like, I just always am interested in guys like that who like Patrick Holmes wasn't a universal like, oh, he's a 1-1 pick. Everyone thought it was a work in progress and he ends up winning three Super Bowls, MVPs, he's the best quarterback in the NFL. It's got to be cool to be part of that process and see that when he was, you know, before he got to the NFL.

• 2:06:16Speaker 07

  Yeah, that's one thing I've been blessed to be around. I think through Mike Leach and Cliff Kingsbury, teaching me how to evaluate quarterbacks and what the traits were looking for, right? And, you know, from Case Keenum to Patrick Mahomes to Davis Webb to Cam Ward to Baker Mayfield, I've been around all of them. And now Drew, like, the one thing that stands out, like, they all have phenomenal spatial awareness. And they're able to see that most of those guys play multiple sports, they're used to playing with their eyes up. And they process information extremely fast. Like, that's one thing nobody talks about padding up because he makes these crazy plays. One of the smartest football players I've ever been around, as far as how fast he can process information and anticipate things. And so, yeah, it was something, we had a tape that was really cool, you know, all

• 2:07:01Speaker 07

  the no look and crazy stuff you see right now. Like, we had, we had a practice mixtape that Coach Kingsbury put together at our time at Texas Tech. That was, I wish I still had it. Like, it was phenomenal, some of the things that he didn't practice.

• 2:07:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. And there is that famous game that that people always talk about the Baker Mayfield versus Patrick Mahomes game. When you're coaching in that game, are you like, fuck, man, we can't, like, this has just gotten out of hand. It was 6659, and Baker threw seven touchdowns, Mahomes threw five. One of the funnest games to watch, where you're just like, this is just Big 12 football. This is just what we do. It's just, no one's getting a stop and we just got to hope to have the ball last.

• 2:07:39Speaker 07

  Yeah, it was crazy. There's something, you know, both offenses had the exact, the exact same yards. I can't remember, it's like 815 or something wild. But I would say

• 2:07:50Speaker 00

  854, 854.

• 2:07:51Speaker 07

  854, yeah, it's like exactly the same. And so I do remember get home that night and laying down and like, I was just physically exhausted from being up there and just watching it all happen and being in that moment in real time and going back and forth. And football's changed. I think, you know, we're seeing a new cycle of football, where people are adding tight ends, running the ball, slowing it down, less possessions. Like, I think, old school Big 12 football has kind of morphed back to what it was before Mike Leach kind of revolutionized this conference. And so I'm interested just to get into these conference games here in a couple of weeks and really be able to fill this conference kind of in a different way.

• 2:08:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. Would you consider yourself to be more of a quarterback guru or a quarterback whisperer?

• 2:08:37Speaker 00

  Good question.

• 2:08:38Speaker 07

  I don't know, man. We've been around, I've had really, really talented kids, you know, none of them that highly recruited. But just, it's so exciting for like me now, I got a 10 year old son and have a relationship to those guys. And he goes to the draft, he goes and snaps from Mahomes in the offseason. Like, that's the fun part to me is, is all these guys are incredible human beings. And to be around them and watch their stories and to watch them be great husbands and fathers and just be good human beings now has been fun.

• 2:09:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, you've been around a lot of the great ones. Cam Ward, famously at Incarnate Word, when you were a coach there, he zero star recruit. What did, what did everybody miss about Cam coming out of high school? And what did you see in him?

• 2:09:19Speaker 07

  His tape wasn't very good. We found him at a camp and we loved him. He had one of probably the best camp performances I've ever seen. And Cam was a little overweight at the time and a little bit out of shape, but phenomenal basketball player. So he was truly one, we loved him. And then we're like, okay, let's go watch the the highlight tape. I think we're going to offer him right after this camp. And we went in there watching. He just didn't, I mean, he was under center, wing T, didn't throw the ball, but a couple of times a game. And so he was one of the ones that we felt like we could hide out and nobody's going to find him just because what he was doing, the system didn't allow him to kind of shine. But maybe the most competitive human that I've ever been around. And so hopefully had a first, first game, I mean, a rough first game

• 2:10:03Speaker 07

  yesterday. Hopefully, we can get those guys back on track.

• 2:10:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. So so yeah, when you're looking at these guys, because you said, like, you know, Texas Tech, when when they were humming, like, they weren't getting the the same, you know, star recruit that a Texas was or Ohio State, but you guys were always finding great players. Was, is there a specific trait you look for in a quarterback where you're like, okay, if they have this, I can, I can, I can do the rest. I can, I can help them get to the next level, as long as they have this basis, this, this likes, you know, floor of skills?

• 2:10:36Speaker 07

  Yeah, I think so. And, you know, I think the way that we prepare in the meeting room is elite. And that's what really allows us to set these guys apart. And that's something I learned from from Cliff Kingsbury. And, you know, he was sitting in a room with Tom Brady, he's sitting in the room as a backup, sitting in a room with Drew Brees. And just the preparation and the notes and the way we build out the plan and the cutups that we make throughout the room, throughout the week is something that I think that we really do it on a league level.

• 2:11:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. All right. So, Coach, this has been awesome. We have one last question. It's a Roback question, R H O B A C K dot com, promo code TAKE, 20% off your first purchase, Q zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, roback.com. Zach, you ready? Yes, sir. Okay. How do you know, Coach, I do have a quick question. You have been defeating ducks for decades. Do you think your history? History of green head mallard hunting had anything to do with your ability to defeat Oregon.

• 2:11:30Speaker 07

  That was an epic picture, wasn't it? And so, and that's not AI. Like that's, that's one of my passions. My wife's family's from northeast Arkansas. Um, I'm an avid duck hunter when I get the time to do it. I love to hunt in general, but my coaching football doesn't match up well with dove hunting, deer hunting, any of those seasons. Luckily during the course of late December and all through January, I get the opportunity to go in the woods of Arkansas and get after some mallards. But, uh, but yeah, and I, I, I'm a pretty good shot with a, uh, with a 12 gauge.

• 2:12:00Speaker 00

  Gee, this is something I'm so mad I didn't know before the game. Like you're, you're actually a duck hunter. And the, and the ducks are coming to town. Like that's something that needs to be, that's the alert we need to get in our phones. Like Eric Morris is going up against the ducks. Did you know he's one of the best duck hunters in the world?

• 2:12:18Speaker 07

  Yeah. Right. After the armadillo, when you do the next tag.

• 2:12:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. Have you ever, uh, taken out a cougar? I'm just looking at October 17th right now on the schedule.

• 2:12:27Speaker 07

  I have not, but I would love to. I have some friends that have actually got one. Um, it's high on the bucket list.

• 2:12:33Speaker 02

  What about a buffalo? You ever, you ever kill one of those?

• 2:12:36Speaker 07

  No, no, no, really exotics. Um, so.

• 2:12:39Speaker 00

  No Wildcats?

• 2:12:42Speaker 07

  Bobcats, plenty of Bobcats.

• 2:12:43Speaker 00

  Okay. All right. That's close to Wildcat Kansas state. What about a night? Have you ever taken out a night?

• 2:12:50Speaker 00

  Okay. Just, you know, UCF coming up in a couple of weeks. We gotta just make sure.

• 2:12:55Speaker 07

  Mike, Mike Leach would love that one. Swing your sword. He had so much pirate stuff.

• 2:12:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:59Speaker 07

  He would love to talk about a sword fire.

• 2:13:02Speaker 02

  Yeah. There, there's one other thing that Zach actually pulled up when he was, I think he was going on a deep dive on your Instagram account. Zach, you want to ask him about the other thing you showed me? Uh, yeah, we can. A quick question. Uh, I, you, uh, beautiful family. Love to see that. Family man. I saw a photo, you, uh, brought your, your, your son home from the hospital. Uh, was his first gift a shotgun?

• 2:13:23Speaker 07

  That was actually, that's a 22.

• 2:13:25Speaker 02

  Oh, fair. I appreciate that.

• 2:13:30Speaker 02

  That was a sick gift.

• 2:13:31Speaker 07

  That, that's actually the gift. My wife, she didn't love the thought of that, but that'll, that'll be a family heir forever.

• 2:13:37Speaker 02

  I love that. Great picture too.

• 2:13:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, I love it. Oh man. Well, coach, thank you so much. Best of luck next week. And, uh, yeah, I mean, it was fun to watch. And this is what we love about college football. When you tune on, tune in on Saturday, you don't know what to expect. No one thought that Oklahoma state was going to beat Oregon and you guys did it.

• 2:13:55Speaker 07

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• 2:13:56Speaker 00

  Thank you so much, coach.

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• 2:16:22Speaker 00

  Okay. Let's wrap up. We got pardon your take from the listeners. Henry.

• 2:16:28Speaker 03

  Uh, pardon your take. Justin Herbert will be bad all year, so he doesn't have to worry about January football. And we'll have more time to canoodle Mrs. Beer. That sounds like I wrote that because that was my whole thinking going into him picking him as LVP this year.

• 2:16:40Speaker 02

  Has there ever been a quarterback who's like dated or married, uh, like a really, really attractive woman, like globally attractive? And if so, how did that impact their career?

• 2:16:52Speaker 03

  I don't know. We'd have to look it up.

• 2:16:53Speaker 02

  I'm thinking of one specifically. He had a pretty good career.

• 2:17:04Speaker 03

  Drew Brees?

• 2:17:04Speaker 02

  It was Tom Brady. Close, close.

• 2:17:06Speaker 03

  Peyton Manning steroids?

• 2:17:09Speaker 02

  Go ahead. Yeah. Finish that thought.

• 2:17:12Speaker 03

  Well, his, his marriage impacted his career for sure. Yeah. Brady. I mean, that it worked out well for him.

• 2:17:16Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. So like, I understand the thought. It's not a terrible, like, if, he might not be as focused right now as he has in the past.

• 2:17:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, he's got to win. He's got to win someday.

• 2:17:26Speaker 02

  The difference is Tom Brady, I think he just like.

• 2:17:28Speaker 03

  He was also a winner before.

• 2:17:29Speaker 02

  Well, yeah. And he was also like a complete psychopath that he like actually loved football more than hot women. I think Justin, I think Justin Herbert might be like a lot of us and be like, well, I pretty much won.

• 2:17:42Speaker 02

  What's, is the Superbowl really better than this?

• 2:17:46Speaker 03

  Uh, hey guys, with Mahomes' performance on Monday Night Football, do we think the AFC West or NFC West will be the most competitive division? Love you guys, especially the booth boys.

• 2:17:55Speaker 00

  AFC West or NFC West? If you're going off of just week one.

• 2:18:00Speaker 02

  Not AFC West.

• 2:18:01Speaker 00

  You'd say the NFC West.

• 2:18:03Speaker 02

  For sure.

• 2:18:03Speaker 00

  Because the Cardinals look like they're not a rollover.

• 2:18:06Speaker 02

  I was going to say dream team in Arizona.

• 2:18:07Speaker 00

  Yeah. Right?

• 2:18:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:18:10Speaker 02

  Should the, should the Rams tank?

• 2:18:13Speaker 03

  No, they have no picks.

• 2:18:16Speaker 02

  It's a good point. Yeah. That's a really good point.

• 2:18:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, the Rams, I mean, listen, super team. They'll win. Who are they playing this weekend?

• 2:18:25Speaker 02

  Uh, Giants.

• 2:18:26Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:18:26Speaker 02

  New York football Giants. That will be interesting.

• 2:18:30Speaker 00

  LA, I assume?

• 2:18:30Speaker 02

  In LA. I think it's Sunday night football. No, Monday night football, Monday night football.

• 2:18:34Speaker 00

  The, the, the Niners got a nice, uh, comeback to the world.

• 2:18:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:40Speaker 00

  Game against the Dolphins.

• 2:18:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. But how, how crazy would that be if, if the Giants just won?

• 2:18:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, the Rams are officially in that list. I was saying earlier, the Rams have to, it feels like the Rams have to win this one, don't they?

• 2:18:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:18:55Speaker 00

  They're seven point favorites. Okay.

• 2:18:58Speaker 03

  Uh, pardon your take. Refs should all have to wear a mask and not be identified by name. TV refs are getting out of control and this can mitigate the problem. Would be a big problem for the Cowboys, Chiefs, Lakers, Michigan and Yankees though.

• 2:19:09Speaker 02

  Okay. Uh, so you're suggesting like, like squid game?

• 2:19:13Speaker 03

  Or just robot. I think this guy just wants robot refs.

• 2:19:17Speaker 02

  With guns. Uh huh. I agree.

• 2:19:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Why not? How are refs getting out of control?

• 2:19:23Speaker 03

  Uh, I think he said they need to wear a mask. I think they're just getting too full of themselves is what he's implying.

• 2:19:27Speaker 00

  Got it.

• 2:19:28Speaker 02

  But if you think that there's a problem with corruption and, and officiating, if you can see the refs and they're like wanting too much face time. If they didn't show their face at all, that would be way, way worse for.

• 2:19:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, they would be anonymous. Yeah.

• 2:19:43Speaker 03

  I have a theory.

• 2:19:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:45Speaker 03

  Every NFL season, we try to make it a new year, starting week one.

• 2:19:48Speaker 02

  Wait, wait, is this your theory?

• 2:19:49Speaker 03

  No.

• 2:19:49Speaker 02

  That was such a good job reading and acting.

• 2:19:51Speaker 03

  Thank you.

• 2:19:51Speaker 00

  You did. Yeah.

• 2:19:52Speaker 03

  But every year there's a carryover of the previous season for most of the teams. Patriots lose horrifically, Chargers stink, Jets no picks, Steelers ugly win. Stroud terrible late in game, Packers blow a lead, et cetera. The actual changeover of the new NFL season is week three to four, once everyone has settled in.

• 2:20:10Speaker 02

  So you're just kind of.

• 2:20:10Speaker 03

  I kind of agree with that.

• 2:20:11Speaker 02

  Using the first three weeks like the preseason.

• 2:20:13Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:20:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. The storylines, like it's there. We are still talking about storylines and stuff.

• 2:20:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, we have preconceived notions.

• 2:20:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, like that.

• 2:20:20Speaker 00

  Yeah, like we're, we're saying the Rams.

• 2:20:22Speaker 03

  Week four is when it's like, all right, we, we've seen these teams enough. The off season's over. It's October. Like this is the beginning of the year.

• 2:20:30Speaker 00

  Right. Everything in your body says the Rams are going to beat the Giants on Monday Night Football, but it's like, why? Maybe the Giants are really good this year and the Rams are just not good this year. But we, last year, the Giants were bad, the Rams were good. Yeah, I agree with that.

• 2:20:43Speaker 02

  It is kind of like episode one of a new season of a TV show. It's mostly about what happened at the very end of the last, yeah, so the last season. And then maybe like one character dies and you're like, whoa.

• 2:20:54Speaker 00

  So, so we should say football's back after.

• 2:20:58Speaker 02

  Week three?

• 2:20:59Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:20:59Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:21:00Speaker 02

  Okay. Remind me, Zach. Week three.

• 2:21:03Speaker 07

  Gotcha.

• 2:21:04Speaker 02

  It is true that like October is when you really feel like the first four. Lovey Smith used to do the whole quarters thing, which isn't like you can't do it anymore because there's 17 games. But yeah, if, if you said the first four games, the first quarter, it's like, you don't really know what this season's gonna be. So you get through the first quarter and then the quarter two starts, you're like, all right, here we go. Okay.

• 2:21:26Speaker 03

  All right. Last one. If the Browns and Falcons traded QB rooms, who would win more games?

• 2:21:32Speaker 07

  Browns.

• 2:21:32Speaker 03

  Falcons.

• 2:21:33Speaker 02

  Browns.

• 2:21:34Speaker 07

  I mean.

• 2:21:34Speaker 02

  Whoa. Cause Cooper Rush?

• 2:21:35Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:21:36Speaker 07

  I was gonna say Stefanski would be very upset with that. He'd be like, God damn it.

• 2:21:40Speaker 02

  Do you think the Browns had a meeting about whether or not to wish Deshaun Watson a happy birthday on their social media? Or is it just like, we're just not even gonna discuss this?

• 2:21:50Speaker 07

  I. My theory is that it might be in his contract.

• 2:21:54Speaker 02

  Don't.

• 2:21:55Speaker 07

  No, that, that you have to.

• 2:21:56Speaker 02

  They didn't.

• 2:21:57Speaker 07

  Oh, they, they forgot this year?

• 2:21:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. Last year, yesterday was his birthday, right? They did not.

• 2:22:01Speaker 07

  Cause they did the year before.

• 2:22:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think they had a meeting.

• 2:22:04Speaker 07

  I think it was in his contract and which is why they did it last year. And then they're like, I think we can all agree that maybe we don't do it again.

• 2:22:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think they probably had to sit down and be like, all right, so birthday's coming up. Deshaun's on Monday. Do we want to be ratioed to hell? No? Okay.

• 2:22:21Speaker 07

  We got enough to deal with over here. Yeah.

• 2:22:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. Cause that would have been a all time. Bad. You know, he would have been trending.

• 2:22:30Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:22:32Speaker 02

  Just let his birthday go. Okay. Good job, Hank.

• 2:22:35Speaker 03

  Thanks.

• 2:22:35Speaker 02

  Good show, boys. Football's back.

• 2:22:38Speaker 07

  Week three. Not yet. It's not back yet.

• 2:22:40Speaker 02

  Numbers three.

• 2:22:41Speaker 07

  Four. I'm gonna do.

• 2:22:43Speaker 03

  Eight. Seventeen.

• 2:22:45Speaker 07

  I'm gonna do, uh, 88.

• 2:22:47Speaker 02

  One. I kinda like that, uh. Meme's a winner now, but he still can't win this. It's like the one thing that we remember from old memes.

• 2:22:56Speaker 05

  Nah, he's gonna win it right now. He's gonna win it right now.

• 2:22:58Speaker 02

  Old memes is still here.

• 2:23:00Speaker 05

  I picked four because it was the only, uh, number that wasn't picked in that thing. Oh, yeah. From early in the show. Remember? I remember. The. You know, the thing. The, the scores. Score differences.

• 2:23:12Speaker 07

  You guys are like, what about four?

• 2:23:14Speaker 02

  Hurry up, hurry up.

• 2:23:15Speaker 05

  Hurry up.

• 2:23:15Speaker 02

  Hurry up.

• 2:23:18Speaker 05

  59. 34 for Jacob, 69 for Colton.

• 2:23:22Speaker 07

  15 for Shane.

• 2:23:24Speaker 02

  15 for Shane.

• 2:23:25Speaker 05

  Shane, put those headphones on. Shane wasn't here for the start of the show.

• 2:23:29Speaker 07

  Yeah, bolt up Shane. Are you bolted?

• 2:23:32Speaker 00

  Yeah, I'm bolted. A lot of season left.

• 2:23:35Speaker 02

  26.

• 2:23:36Speaker 05

  26. Anyone?

• 2:23:38Speaker 07

  I think that one just hit.

• 2:23:39Speaker 05

  Did it?

• 2:23:40Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:23:40Speaker 03

  Same little hoey.

• 2:23:43Speaker 02

  Shane, uh, any word, uh, anything you want to say about the false stars?

• 2:23:48Speaker 00

  Lot, too many false stars.

• 2:23:50Speaker 02

  Too many false stars.

• 2:23:51Speaker 00

  Gotta fix that. Yeah.

• 2:23:52Speaker 02

  Hey, did you hear what I said? Justin Herbert, leading passer in the AFC West right now.

• 2:23:57Speaker 00

  I know.

• 2:24:07Speaker 05

  Oh, there's a four in there.

• 2:24:10Speaker 02

  74.

• 2:24:11Speaker 05

  Oh, 70.

• 2:24:12Speaker 02

  Anyway.

• 2:24:13Speaker 05

  Nope.

• 2:24:14Speaker 02

  Shane, it's that. You realize like Sunday is a, the most must win that anyone has ever had.

• 2:24:20Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. This last Sunday was must win, but this is really, really must win.

• 2:24:25Speaker 07

  Have you thought about?

• 2:24:25Speaker 00

  Season ending.

• 2:24:26Speaker 07

  Changing up the, the weird way that you text?

• 2:24:29Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:24:29Speaker 07

  You gotta get locked in. You're not locked in.

• 2:24:31Speaker 00

  Have you guys tried it?

• 2:24:32Speaker 07

  Yeah, it's weird.

• 2:24:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. You end up saying false star a bunch.

• 2:24:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, but like you can do it one handed though.

• 2:24:39Speaker 07

  You, I can text one handed. That's how I always text.

• 2:24:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it's easier.

• 2:24:44Speaker 07

  Disagree.

• 2:24:45Speaker 00

  I, I disagree with your disagreement.

• 2:24:47Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 2:24:48Speaker 02

  Okay, that's fair.

• 2:24:49Speaker 05

  Yeah, pussy.

• 2:24:51Speaker 07

  Bolt up. Happy birthday to all business Pete. Happy birthday to Sam Howell. Happy birthday to David Copperfield, Bryson DeChambeau. Happy birthday to Alex Ovechkin. Happy birthday to Patrick Mahomes, or excuse me, Pat Mahomes. Happy birthday to Dick McNut. Happy birthday to Mark Brunel, George Blanda, and James Wood. Happy birthday to Dan Heron for another program.

• 2:25:14Speaker 02

  Oh, when is his birthday?

• 2:25:16Speaker 07

  Uh, that would be Thursday.

• 2:25:17Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 2:25:17Speaker 07

  The 17th.

• 2:25:18Speaker 02

  Remind me.

• 2:25:19Speaker 07

  So it'll be, uh, tomorrow. If you're listening to this, everybody tomorrow, wish Dan Heron a happy birthday. Love you guys.