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The baseball playoffs have begun and the podcast went 0-3. We talk about the 3 losses all in very different ways and Man City is in big trouble. The White Sox got a letter from the pope and looked awesome (00:00:00-00:32:21). We then go back in studio to talk MNF, Case Keenum legacy game and where do the Eagles go from here (00:32:21-01:09:30). Hot Seat/Cool Throne and a recap of the NBA Media days around the league (01:09:30-01:37:16). Stanford Steve joins us in studio to talk college football, is the Texas offense a concern, Oregon owns USC, who's impressed him and more (01:37:16-02:26:31). We then have on Case Keenum after his incredible MNF performance to talk ball, what it was like coming back for another year, Ben Johnson, showering with the boys and more (02:26:31-02:52:39). We then finish with listener FAQ's You can find every episode of this show on Apple Podcasts, Spotify or Netflix. Prime Members can listen ad-free on Amazon Music. For more, visit barstool.link/pardon-my-take https://barstool.link/pardon-my-take

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  Welcome to Pardon My Take presented by DraftKings. The crown is yours. Today is Wednesday, September 30th, and Max, Hank, the 0-3 boys in the baseball playoffs, the 0-3 boys, we got absolutely dominated every which way. A blown save for Max and the Phillies. The Cubs got their shit kicked in, and Ben Rice buttfucked you, Hank. Does that sum it up?

• 3:40Speaker 04

  Yeah, the buttfucking, I wasn't, I wasn't ready to go that far yet. I just want to say it's kind of an indictment of Dave Portnoy that we've got Schlittler and Ben Rice, both growing up as Yankees fans.

• 3:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

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  Yeah, that part doesn't make sense, but it does, it does hurt that it's like, and I like Ben Rice a lot. He's, he's from my neck of the woods in Massachusetts. He carried me to the Dingers Only Championship this year.

• 4:08Speaker 03

  But yeah, it's like, there's two guys, two guys from Massachusetts that were just shoving it down our throats the entire night. And like Ben Rice is, he's beefed up a lot in just one year.

• 4:18Speaker 00

  Incredible. I mean, both of them were. Schlittler had 10 Ks, six innings pitched, zero runs. He was just like a true, he might be Haas potentially. He's probably got to gain a little weight, but like to just show up and shove like that.

• 4:33Speaker 03

  Manolitics, like 100, 119 pitches in 2026 is Haas status and then some.

• 4:40Speaker 00

  And then Ben Rice, Ben Rice was, what was he, four for five with six RBIs? Just absolutely dominated.

• 4:49Speaker 04

  Are the New York Yankees better without Aaron Judge?

• 4:52Speaker 00

  I think so. I mean, Ben Rice has got his pinstripes faster than Aaron Judge did.

• 4:56Speaker 04

  I mean, I think this has been Rice's, it's his second set of pinstripes, right? He got him last year.

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  Yeah, I think so. But he doubled up. He just renews him every year. I don't know if he got him last year because I don't know, they, they lost in the second round, right?

• 5:11Speaker 02

  I saw a stat that he has just as many hits in this postseason as he did in last postseason.

• 5:15Speaker 00

  So this is his pinstripe here?

• 5:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 5:19Speaker 00

  Hank, how are you feeling overall?

• 5:20Speaker 02

  I don't know. I have to fact check that, but I'm.

• 5:23Speaker 00

  Fact check that, Max. Fact check that. Hank, how are you feeling overall? That was a non-competitive game?

• 5:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, say the least. They took Roman Anthony out for seemingly like he's, he got hurt, which is a bad sign. Back against the wall. Feels, feels bad.

• 5:41Speaker 00

  Well, all right. So let's debate this, embrace debate. Who, who had the worst loss? Because the Red Sox were at least, it was still a game, what, until like the eighth or something when it, when it got blown open? The Cubs, the Cubs got, the Cubs got shit on immediately. Fernando Tatis hit the first ball out of the park. PCA almost got it.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  San Diego, by the way, pothead stand up, most electric, most electric crowd of the day by far, like far and away. You probably combined the other three games and, and the crowd was better in San Diego.

• 6:18Speaker 00

  Max couldn't have been more wrong. Yeah, it was, it was a bad.

• 6:23Speaker 02

  I also can't be more.

• 6:23Speaker 04

  Unreal home field advantage games over the past few years in San Diego. And when they started out, like when Tatis, was that the first pitch of the entire game?

• 6:32Speaker 00

  First pitch of the game, well, they were obviously bottom of the first, but yes.

• 6:35Speaker 04

  For the Padres, yes. First pitch for the Padres and just absolutely walloped it. That, that is a moment where you're like, this is going to be one of those nights.

• 6:44Speaker 00

  I said right away, I was like, it is just simply too loud in San Diego. I needed to be a little quieter because it just, I was getting intimidated from, from sitting on my couch. I was intimidated. San Diego was electric. And yeah, the Cubs, I mean, they, absolutely sucked today. Almost got no hit. I texted Max in the fifth. I was like, you know what's, what's going on right now because I was just thinking, and the game got so out of hand that they weren't going to bring in like their, their best pitchers. But when it was like four, nothing and a no hitter, and the, and the Padres unbelievable bullpen was going to maybe come in the seventh, eighth, and ninth, I was just staring and combined no hitter right in the face. And Max was like, I know what's happening. I know what's happening.

• 7:30Speaker 04

  We were all thinking about it. I tweeted out though, that I think this wouldn't count as a postseason no hitter because the wild card's not really the postseason.

• 7:37Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right. So the Cubs are, we'll get to the Phillies. The Cubs, that was just a sad, sad display. I think this team probably is dead. We don't have pitching, knew that going in. Matthew Boyd is, we have, we have, we have an entire rotation full of like fours and fives. And our, our other two pitchers, well, Gossman got hurt. I don't know if he's on the roster, so he's not hurt. I would have rather started him. Peterson and Holmes started on Friday because you were still trying to get a home playoff series. So that would have been short rest. So it's like, all right, Matthew Boyd, he did well against the Padres last year. He's, his velocity's been up. He's been better, but he was just

• 8:18Speaker 00

  throwing meatballs. But the thing that just sucks is the Cubs, and I get it, like they have not been good as a hitting team in the last like month. They just cooled down and the Padres have gotten red hot, like the best hitting team in baseball the last month. But I knew that the Cubs pitching sucked going into this series. Their defense is elite, their hitting is elite. To have no hitting is like, that's the part that drives you insane because like I knew that the Cubs have to win softball games. Like we don't have a bullpen, we don't have starting pitching. You got to just do it by, by being dogs at the plate. Non-competitive at bats, garbage at bats, and to lose that way when you know going in, it's like, hey, if we lose because our pitching sucks, we knew that all along. We knew that

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  all season. It was not a surprise, whether it be injuries or mismanagement. You knew the pitching sucked. To lose and have just no chance at the plate, that's what drives you insane. And I guess to bring it full circle, Max, because Hank and I lost in similar ways, would you rather lose like this?

• 9:21Speaker 02

  You had the best loss. The Cubs had the best loss. They were.

• 9:24Speaker 00

  I don't know, man. This is, this is actually like a joke. Like this was like an embarrassment in a joke, but it's such an easy.

• 9:31Speaker 04

  I agree with Big Cat because Big Cat also had to stay up late and sit all day through the other games.

• 9:37Speaker 03

  No.

• 9:39Speaker 03

  But like it was over, the game started at nine and the game was over by nine thirty.

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  Yeah, but you know that like I was, I was sitting there like in the fourth inning when it was three, nothing, four, nothing. I was like, oh, he's a baserunner. Like we got a chance. I didn't say in my head that it was over, over until it was, you know, seven, eight, nothing. Like I still stupidly thought it was that we, we could have a chance.

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  I think it's Max and it's not even close.

• 10:02Speaker 04

  No, to me it's Hank and it's not even close.

• 10:04Speaker 02

  No.

• 10:05Speaker 04

  Hank, you lost to the Yankees.

• 10:07Speaker 00

  Yeah, I mean, Max had the most gut wrenching. That's not even close. That part is not even close.

• 10:11Speaker 04

  The gut wrenching, yeah, that way, that way of losing sucks, but Hank, the Reds, your Red Sox lost to the Yankees in the playoffs.

• 10:19Speaker 03

  Yeah, but it's about, we were talking about how you lost.

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  But here's the thing, Max, and you could talk, talk to us about the Phillies game was going through your head. Uh, you still have your ace and they use their ace, correct?

• 10:32Speaker 02

  But we also use our only, like, we use our only high leverage pitcher for thirty pitches yet today.

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  That sucks.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  And he's the one who blew it.

• 10:40Speaker 00

  That sucks.

• 10:41Speaker 02

  And like, he blew it against the guy who was statistically one of the worst hitters in baseball this year. He hasn't given up a, an opposite field homerun to a right-handed batter since twenty twenty-three. That was the last time he gave up an opposite field homer to a right-handed batter and

• 11:01Speaker 02

  the game, it, Michael Harris hits the biggest fucking piece of shit hit up the middle that I mean, people are blaming Trey Turner. I don't blame Trey Turner. It's just the way fucking baseball goes and it just sucks. We were four outs away to just being in the driver's seat to go into the next round, completely changing the vibes and the momentum of this team. And then Bryce Harper himself, after the game just goes, yeah, that was a dagger. It's hard to come back from your best player, looking at the game and being like, yeah, that was a dagger. Like it's so easy for you guys to just turn the page, be like, all right, that game sucked. We're on to the next, we're on to the next. You, you can't, it's so much harder to turn a page in that game and they looked so much better in that game than they have in the past month.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  They were fighting, they were giving great at bats, Lozardo pitched his balls off. He hadn't pitched in two weeks. He came out, we expected three innings, he gave us five, he gave us seventy pitches. And it's just one swing, one bad pitch fucks up the whole thing, fucks up the whole thing, fucks up the whole season, fucks up all of these guys, the prime of their career. They're probably not going to play next year. By the time the, the, the next year, they're going to be old men. One swing, one swing.

• 12:13Speaker 00

  You convinced me. Yeah. I mean, I, I've turned the page already, like the game's still going on. PCA just struck out again and I'm, I've turned the page. Uh, Max, when you were watching the game.

• 12:24Speaker 03

  We have our ace going up against, and, and their ace is done, DFT. So it's like, we can, we can, we can tie this thing up tomorrow and then it's, and then it's game three, anything can happen.

• 12:32Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's a lot of different ways of looking at it, like, like in terms of who had the most heartbreaking loss, absolutely, Max. Who has the most reason to believe? Probably Hank. Um, big cat, your loss sucked because you had to stay all day. Like just watching other baseball games, waiting for yours, and then it was over on the first swing and the Padres didn't even use their high leverage bullpen. So it's, they're going to be like ready to go. So it, it sucks. Bad, bad baseball day for part of my take.

• 12:58Speaker 00

  Bad baseball day, I would say, and the, I mean, the fact that the Cubs, again, they don't have pitching. So it's like, we don't have, it's, it's not like, oh, but we guess what? We got our ace coming up. We got, we got our, our, our, our fifth four coming up. Watch out. It's going to be crazy. Max, I got a question for you, two questions, actually. First is, uh, I was watching some of the stream, uh, on the part of my take YouTube. By the way, we, you're going to do it again tomorrow, right?

• 13:28Speaker 02

  Right. Same spot, same corner. Zach, Zach has got to be there too.

• 13:33Speaker 00

  Maybe, maybe don't do the iPad because you're just lost in a heartbreaking way.

• 13:37Speaker 02

  No, yeah, the iPad's done. Now I can, now, now I'll, I'll, I'll take one of those screens.

• 13:41Speaker 00

  Okay, all right, so.

• 13:42Speaker 02

  It was tough watching on the iPad.

• 13:44Speaker 00

  Well, I'm going to stream the Cubs game at nine o'clock. Everyone can tune into that as well. Uh, but Max, I was watching, you went silent. Usually there's rage. Was that, was that a, uh, a, a choice that you made before the game? Cause it was just pure silence and it was very funny because Zach said, do you, do you want to talk about it? And you're like, no, not right now. What, what happened there?

• 14:08Speaker 02

  I had, I had nothing to say. I had nothing to say. It was, the vibes were so high and it was just such a shocking, shocking, but not shocking at the same time. It was just, it was just a, a speechless, speechless moment where it, the ball, I, I, the ball leaves his hand. I'm like, oh my God, that's middle, middle. The ball hits his bat and I'm like, oh my God, there's no way it actually goes there. He's going to catch it, right? He's going to catch it, right? And it just kept carrying and carrying and carrying to just enough to get over that fence. And I was like, I just can't believe that just happened. I just can't believe Yoan Duran just gave up that homer. I just can't believe that just happened. I can't like, the only thing that was going through my head is I can't believe that just happened. I can't believe.

• 14:49Speaker 00

  Tears?

• 14:50Speaker 02

  I can't believe that just happened. No tears, but it was, it was just, it, it was truly, truly, truly a speechless situation that I had. There was no, that,

• 15:03Speaker 02

  there was nothing I could do. There was nothing I could do. And then the shadows came up for the bottom half of the inning. And I mean, the shadows were honestly there for Austin Riley's swing too, which was made it even more impressive. But you just know that you had no shot. You just know you had no shot. And now somehow they got to pick themselves, themselves off the mat and Chris Sanchez has got to pitch a fucking gem tomorrow because it's the only way.

• 15:24Speaker 04

  Yeah. How would you, uh, how would you discuss your departure from Barstool Sports this afternoon?

• 15:30Speaker 00

  Oh, is it bad?

• 15:31Speaker 02

  I don't, I know.

• 15:33Speaker 04

  There's a little bit of a storm out, a little bit of a Rory McIlroy parking lot.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  That's not true. I left.

• 15:41Speaker 03

  Rain cloud, rain cloud.

• 15:44Speaker 02

  I went home. I, it was, it's a normal thing.

• 15:47Speaker 04

  You ran, you ran out the side entrance, went directly into your car. I've never seen a car drive off faster than you did.

• 15:54Speaker 03

  I heard you were carrying your sweatshirt and it was just dragging on the ground as you were walking to your car.

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  Everyone is just making things up.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  Quick. Yes. The game was over and I left. My workday was over and I went home. That, that's, that's literally, that's what the, that's what ninety-nine percent of the American population does.

• 16:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was completely regular departure from work.

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  All right.

• 16:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, I left.

• 16:19Speaker 00

  Here's the other thing, and we're going to talk, so, so we recorded the whole rest of the show in studio. Uh, we're going to talk Bears, Monday Night Football. We have Steve, we have Stanford Steve, we have Case Keenum. Uh, I did see, uh, a guy named Brendan Deeg posted this on Twitter that, uh, he said, inspired by a Reddit thread, I gathered some stats on how Vic Fangio's defenses from twenty twenty-three to the present day have fared from before the Phillies were eliminated from the playoffs to after. So essentially Vic Fangio is, uh, like Kyler Murray with Call of Duty, except it's the Phillies for Vic Fangio. And he did the stats and before the Phillies have been, uh, eliminated,

• 17:02Speaker 00

  EPA per drive, they're the twenty-eighth worst defense or twenty-eighth defense, uh, yards per play, the twenty-first success rate through the seventeenth. After they've been eliminated, they're the fourth best on EPA drive, third best on yards per play, fourth best on success rate. So the Phillies being in the playoffs is making the Eagles bad.

• 17:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. I mean, we talked about it off the show today. It's,

• 17:29Speaker 02

  I, I, I guess it's a problem, but I, it's so hard to go off of both of these losses the past two days and be like, right now I'm so mad about the Phillies that I can't care about the, that Eagles loss.

• 17:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, wow.

• 17:44Speaker 02

  Like I, it's going to be hard for, because you're going to, in about five minutes, you're going to hear me be really mad about the Eagles lost.

• 17:51Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 17:51Speaker 02

  But, but the way that the time has happened since we have recorded that to where we are at right now.

• 17:58Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 17:59Speaker 02

  I, I don't know. I don't know. My, my brain has been in a pretzel since Saturday.

• 18:05Speaker 00

  You, you, you did have a Fleming tweet, uh, which gave me a chuckle. You, you know that, that would, that, that reeked of Fleming, your tweet after the game, right?

• 18:15Speaker 02

  Sports are dumb?

• 18:16Speaker 00

  No, just humiliation every day. It will never end.

• 18:21Speaker 02

  Oh, well, that's been humiliation every day.

• 18:25Speaker 04

  No, just, just the past two days.

• 18:27Speaker 00

  It will never.

• 18:28Speaker 02

  Saturday was all, also a humiliation day.

• 18:31Speaker 00

  That was a humiliation day as well.

• 18:33Speaker 02

  We got, I had, I had one, I've, I've had three out of the past four days of humiliation days.

• 18:38Speaker 04

  No, Monday was great. LeBron media day.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Shut up.

• 18:44Speaker 00

  It will never end. Oh, Zach's here. Zach, you joined us.

• 18:51Speaker 00

  No, his mic's not working.

• 18:53Speaker 02

  No, he hasn't.

• 18:54Speaker 00

  He's not joined us. Nope.

• 18:56Speaker 04

  Wait, does Zach have, I think Zach has the Apple earbuds in and then he has those with the, the headphones over top of him.

• 19:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 19:04Speaker 04

  So he's got two mics that aren't working right now.

• 19:06Speaker 03

  Five mic. This is tech. This is some good tech right here.

• 19:14Speaker 00

  It's bad. That was bad. That was bad. You're gonna see, yeah, when we get back in the studio, it's like a different show because I was riding high off the Bears on Monday night, but this is, the Padres are gonna keep scoring and baseball's so stupid. You go ahead, PFT.

• 19:29Speaker 04

  I got one, one last question about Vic Fangio. Do you think that Vic Fangio would be better at coaching off of Phillies wins? Like, does he give himself victory Monday? Like, you know, a little time to celebrate the wins? Or do you think he'd be better off of a loss because he's pissed off and he's not sleeping?

• 19:47Speaker 02

  I'm, I'm sorry. This is a complete, I, Colton just sent the video of me, of me leaving the parking lot.

• 19:54Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  This could not be more.

• 19:57Speaker 00

  Everywhere, dude. There's a, you almost ran over a little girl.

• 20:01Speaker 06

  You didn't check both sides of the street before you crossed.

• 20:04Speaker 04

  Oh, no, that's just me.

• 20:05Speaker 00

  I'm gonna have Max's back. That was a completely normal exit. I was, I was hoping that he was storming out and he was peeling out. It was a completely normal exit.

• 20:13Speaker 06

  It feels dirty even watching that video because it's like, why does someone even take a video of you just walking out of the office?

• 20:21Speaker 00

  This entire time, by the way, Zach is just trying to get his mic to work and it's not working.

• 20:29Speaker 02

  He's still talking and we can't, we can't hear you.

• 20:31Speaker 00

  No. Baseball's so dumb. Baseball's so dumb. I, I love watching baseball, but it's like you, you invest so much time in, in a season and you hope, like I talked to myself, I knew the Cubs had major, major flaws going into this postseason, just like you knew the Phillies had major flaws, Max. But then when, when the playoffs start, you talk yourself into it and you say, hey, like, it's gonna be like the best version of ourselves are gonna show up. The best, the, the, the offense the Cubs had for the majority of the year where they're really, really good. It's gonna show up. The defense is gonna show up. They're, we're gonna get the best version of the pitching and none of it happened. None of it. Just absolute disaster.

• 21:12Speaker 02

  It's just, you get to the postseason. Oh, God. Yeah, I don't know. It's just like, there's so many things that you go back and you second look and like in the moment, I'm so fucking mad about the Yohan Duran coming in the seventh inning when he hasn't done it ever. And then he goes and he, and he has five perfect, perfect outs. And then he just can't get the last one. And I get mad at him. And then a couple, a little bit of time goes past. I'm like, I'm not actually mad at him, but I am mad at him in the moment. I just need to blame somebody. But it's just so frustrating. It's so frustrating. It's just one moment and it just, and it, and you could do everything right for 99% of the time. And then it's just one moment and you're fucked. And it's just so fucking frustrating. And Zach cannot, he just left.

• 21:57Speaker 00

  Zach just left again.

• 21:58Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. It sucks. Cut the cord right now.

• 22:01Speaker 00

  Baseball sucks. It's, it's brutal.

• 22:03Speaker 04

  One other story that, that came out right after we got done recording this afternoon. I think we should at least mention it because it is, it's pretty significant news. The English Premier League did an investigation into Man City for like salary cap hijinks over the last decade, 15 years. They were found guilty of everything that they were charged with. So they, they had, imagine an entire team that's run out of guys that are getting Kawhi Leonard contracts. Like that, that's how bad it is. The point where like Man City, I'm hearing might get relegated, like kicked out of the league.

• 22:42Speaker 00

  I, I asked people to explain it to me in terms I can understand and the, someone said it's like the Houston Astros did 16 9 11s.

• 22:54Speaker 04

  It's pretty bad. Yeah. It's, it's awesome though. Zach was telling me about what his breakdown was.

• 23:01Speaker 00

  Zach, you got it?

• 23:02Speaker 04

  You want to comment on that?

• 23:03Speaker 00

  He keeps moving in his apartment too. He moves in his apartment to a different place. It doesn't change anything.

• 23:09Speaker 04

  So the crazy thing is that they've got this big ass, like brand new stadium. If they get relegated, they're just gonna have to have concerts every day in, in order to actually make money and have the ownership not go broke. It's a pretty, it's a pretty hilarious predicament they've found themselves in, but they're essentially running a, a fake set of books.

• 23:28Speaker 00

  Okay. Yeah. I, I didn't understand it. It sounded significant. People were like, holy shit, how is this happening? But they're still, they're in the middle. I mean, I know they're on a break right now, but they're, they're gonna play the rest of this season?

• 23:40Speaker 04

  Maybe. I, I don't know when the, so this is the, just the panel that like decides whether or not they did that shit. And the panel today decided they did all that shit and also plus some other shit too. So it went about as bad as it can go. And then there's gonna be another panel that decides what the punishment's gonna be. But it sounds like this is, this probably should be death penalty stuff because it's pretty much the worst thing that's ever happened in a, in English soccer in terms of like rule violations.

• 24:08Speaker 00

  Damn. Man City.

• 24:11Speaker 04

  I love it.

• 24:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. Man shitty. Zach, do you have any thoughts on it? Before we kick it to ourselves in studio, talk some Monday Night Football?

• 24:18Speaker 06

  Man City's been playing with the money for a long time.

• 24:22Speaker 00

  Zach.

• 24:23Speaker 06

  Playing with the money way too long.

• 24:25Speaker 00

  What happened?

• 24:27Speaker 06

  Uh, did, you guys can hear me good now?

• 24:30Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, to Man City. Then I want to know what happened otherwise.

• 24:34Speaker 06

  I have no idea. Oh, what happened to Man City is they, they, they may be fraudsters, big cat. They may get relegated. Okay. It's a big stadium to have to keep filled if you're not playing in the big leagues. Yeah. But I'm not sure which microphone you guys are coming through or you can hear me through now, but I think we're good.

• 24:49Speaker 04

  It sounds beautiful.

• 24:50Speaker 00

  What happened with, uh, did you fall asleep?

• 24:55Speaker 06

  Yeah, I did. I did.

• 24:57Speaker 00

  It is late. It's 11:45.

• 25:00Speaker 06

  It was a playoff baseball. I should have been there with you guys. That's all. I did, I did fall asleep.

• 25:05Speaker 00

  How was it watching the game with Max today?

• 25:10Speaker 06

  Max is, Max is a passionate guy. Max is passionate about the Phillies and things got extremely steamingly passionate in that corner.

• 25:19Speaker 00

  That sounds sexual, dude.

• 25:22Speaker 06

  It, it honestly, it got a little tense. There was like definitely a little bite in the air, you know?

• 25:28Speaker 00

  So there was, you're saying there was a chance that things could get sexual?

• 25:33Speaker 06

  Uh, yeah, but individually. Okay. Like separately sexual.

• 25:39Speaker 04

  Where's that?

• 25:41Speaker 06

  Like between Max and the Phillies, between me and the Phillies. It was separate. And if one of us were gonna do that, higher chance wasn't me.

• 25:48Speaker 04

  I did see Max waving somebody home.

• 25:51Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, I was, I was trying, I was trying to win a ballgame.

• 25:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 25:56Speaker 04

  That was impressive because that was during the silent stream.

• 25:58Speaker 02

  The silent stream was something. The silent.

• 26:00Speaker 00

  Yeah, he was, the, the Phillies actually scored some runs while we were interviewing Case Keenum. All right. Uh, before we kick it to ourselves, what are predictions for, uh, game twos?

• 26:13Speaker 02

  Who do you want to go for?

• 26:14Speaker 04

  I like the White Sox.

• 26:16Speaker 00

  Oh yeah. The White Sox were awesome today. We should have mentioned that. The White Sox were awesome. That's, they're better than the Astros.

• 26:21Speaker 04

  The day was the Chicago White Sox beating the Astros because it's, in my opinion, it's still fuck the Astros and probably always will be fuck the Astros. And it's cool to see the White Sox having success out of all the, you know, they, it was a two seasons in a row, 100 losses or more, including like some historically bad teams. And now they're just young and fun. They don't know any better. I'm rooting for the White Sox in the American League for sure.

• 26:43Speaker 00

  Yeah, they, they had, they won their first, that's our bad. I think we all were just kind of pissed off at our own teams. Uh, they had won their first playoff game today, uh, for in 1,815 days, kind of a no doubter. Uh, could have actually been worse. They had, they had bases loaded, I think in like the second or third inning and, uh, didn't, didn't make it like a crooked number, but they, they, I think they're just better than the Astros. And if they can, they've had stretches this year where they've been like one of the hottest teams. So if they can recapture that, watch out for the White Sox. They also, if you want to talk about like tampering and stuff, they got a letter from the Pope today. That feels, that feels like that's a destiny run. You get a letter from the Pope?

• 27:27Speaker 06

  Outfield, yeah.

• 27:27Speaker 04

  Yeah. The actual letter?

• 27:29Speaker 00

  A letter from the Pope. Yes.

• 27:31Speaker 04

  Handwritten?

• 27:32Speaker 00

  Uh, it looks like it was typed on like a typewriter and then signed by the Pope. Looks pretty damn official.

• 27:39Speaker 04

  Let me, let me look this up.

• 27:42Speaker 00

  And, and, uh, the, so the White Sox will be going for tomorrow, uh, their first playoff series win in 21 years. And Sean Burke is, uh, pitching and I like his quote. He said, this is my life. No family, no girl, no kids. This is all I do. That's, that's who you want pitching in, in, in a, a chance to clinch a series. So, oh, Cubs have bases loaded on Joe Musgrove.

• 28:08Speaker 04

  To Mr. Jerry Reinsdorf, I was pleased to receive the kind letter that you sent following the game that took place at Rate Field on August 11th, 2026. I am most grateful for this thoughtful gesture. As I have noted, sport can truly become a school of life where all can learn that substance, that abundance does not come from victory at any cost, but from sharing, from respecting others, from the joy of walking together. In this spirit is my hope that the White Sox will continue to foster bonds of friendship and solidarity among people and thus bear hopeful witness the possibility of living and working together in peace. With these sentiments, I willingly invoke the almighty's abundant blessings upon you and your loved ones. That sounds like he just, like God just blessed the White Sox.

• 28:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. Just bless the White Sox.

• 28:55Speaker 04

  It doesn't sound any more clear cut than that.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  The Cubs might be back because we just, we have bases loaded one out, but we just made Mason Miller get up, which, listen, any little bit helps. He's warming up right now. So, you know, he's gotta get up. He's gotta get up. That's gotta, that's gotta change a little bit tomorrow. Maybe he doesn't have his shot. He's, he's so fucking good. I don't know what I'm saying. I'm coping right now. Oh, last thing I had. We don't need three announcers.

• 29:25Speaker 00

  In these playoff games.

• 29:26Speaker 04

  I got one more thing.

• 29:27Speaker 00

  We do not need three announcers in these playoffs.

• 29:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, we do. If, if John Fanta's involved.

• 29:32Speaker 00

  John Fanta is actually the fifth announcer in this game. Clayton Kershaw is the fourth announcer.

• 29:37Speaker 04

  I know. Johnny Diamond.

• 29:38Speaker 00

  John, I love John Fanta. Baseball is a sport that you have to let it breathe. You, it's, it's a slow sport. It's a dramatic sport.

• 29:50Speaker 00

  Stuffing the booths with, with, with everyone. I get it. They're trying to do the, you know, they're trying to do the, you know, a guy from each team to make it neutral and all that stuff. I, you just don't need that. I listened to the majority of the Cubs game just on radio tonight. Like while I synced it up with my TV, it's too many announcers. NBC is doing too much. I'm sorry. Do you guys agree?

• 30:11Speaker 03

  Yeah, I love Anthony Rizzo, but it was, it just wasn't necessary.

• 30:16Speaker 00

  Right. It's just like, it's hard, it's hard for, it's hard for there to be a flow when you have three guys trying to like find their place in. It's not a fault of them. None of them are bad.

• 30:26Speaker 03

  They're not, they're not together. It's like, it's like, they're not, they're not.

• 30:29Speaker 00

  No, but that's.

• 30:30Speaker 03

  Each other.

• 30:31Speaker 00

  Rizzo's the fourth, Hank.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 30:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's what I'm saying. Yeah. Like we had the, the Cubs color guy, Jim Deschays, and then the Padres color guy were in the booth with a play by play guy. And then Clayton Kershaw was sitting in the stands and then John Fanta would join in. There's a lot. There's a lot.

• 30:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 30:53Speaker 00

  Baseball's a sport that's just so, like, you just need one announcer in baseball.

• 30:57Speaker 04

  We had Cruck and like the, the beauty of Cruck is that he does, you know, the Phillies local broadcast and he's the biggest homer of all time.

• 31:05Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 31:05Speaker 04

  Like does side tangents and this and that. And then, and this game he was like trying to be like super professional and like complimentary to the Braves. And I'm like, this isn't Cruck. Like Cruck is doing this right now because he's on like, give me, I need Cruck in, in like the middle of August where he's just talking about like the hoagie that he had last night.

• 31:27Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 31:27Speaker 04

  This is, I don't need that.

• 31:29Speaker 00

  That's what they did with every single game. They mashed announcers, announcer crews.

• 31:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 31:34Speaker 00

  Uh, it's, it's so simple, NBC. Just you have all your streaming apps. The TV version on NBC, you can have be whoever's the home team, that could be their announcers. And then the, the streaming app can be the away team and I, and everyone can pick who they want to listen to and just do it that way. Like everyone, every fan of baseball would, would tune into their home announcers to watch a massive, massive game. Who's watched them for 162 games?

• 32:02Speaker 04

  That sounds great.

• 32:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. They mashed guys together that have never worked together and like, hey, this will work.

• 32:08Speaker 04

  Just put them on the cock and have them, and you, and you have multiple streams.

• 32:12Speaker 00

  Right. Cruck on the cock. Jim Deschays on the cock.

• 32:15Speaker 04

  Give me, give me.

• 32:16Speaker 00

  Put Boog on the cock. Yeah.

• 32:19Speaker 04

  Give me Cruck and T Mac on the cock.

• 32:22Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 32:23Speaker 04

  Why, why do they have Kershaw down in like the booger mobile of baseball?

• 32:27Speaker 00

  Dude, Rizzo was in the same spot. It's crazy.

• 32:30Speaker 04

  Like I, I don't, I don't understand like.

• 32:32Speaker 03

  In our game doing that.

• 32:33Speaker 04

  Yeah. I don't understand what, what that innovation is supposed to solve.

• 32:38Speaker 00

  Yeah, I don't know. I have no idea.

• 32:40Speaker 04

  I don't know, but I, I do like it when they kick to John Fanta and, and he's like, you know, uh, this guy's favorite pitcher, uh, also used to pitch for the Padres. Back to you.

• 32:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yep. All right. Well, White Sox rolling team had a good day. Shout out to White Sox. That was a hell of a performance. I do think they're just better than the Astros and I, and I think they're better than the Guardians too. So I know that doesn't make sense because it lost a central to them, but I think the White Sox are going to go to the ALCS. Okay. Let's kick it to ourselves and talk some Monday night football.

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• 35:36Speaker 00

  Case Keenum, boys. Monday night football recap. Case Keenum. What a game.

• 35:43Speaker 04

  QB3.

• 35:44Speaker 00

  QB3 hadn't played in a NFL game in forever. Comes in QB3, lights up the Eagles and incre, like sensational, like not just backup lights up. Like throwing the ball down the field, throwing absolute seeds. 247 passing yards, three total touchdowns. His first game with three plus TDs in 2,577 days. I gotta say, it was a very enjoyable watch. It was a, uh, dominant win by both Case Keenum and the Bears defense played lights out, especially in the second half. They, they held the Eagles to no points.

• 36:24Speaker 00

  I am also, uh, I, I know that my praise for Ben Johnson keeps going up and up and up where I've, I've said, uh, you know, I, I would leave my family for him. I'm now at the point where I would, I would, I would kill for him. I'd murder for him.

• 36:37Speaker 04

  Doesn't matter who or just anyone?

• 36:38Speaker 00

  Anyone?

• 36:39Speaker 04

  Anyone.

• 36:39Speaker 00

  If he's like, hey, I need you to murder this guy, murder for him. Yeah, done. No problem. No problem.

• 36:44Speaker 04

  Memes.

• 36:45Speaker 00

  No problem.

• 36:46Speaker 04

  Zach.

• 36:47Speaker 00

  No problem.

• 36:48Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 36:48Speaker 00

  Probably not you.

• 36:49Speaker 04

  All right.

• 36:49Speaker 00

  I'd probably, what I'd have to do is probably like.

• 36:52Speaker 04

  You could kill me. I would, I would understand.

• 36:54Speaker 00

  I can't lose you. I'd do like a Gone Girl situation.

• 36:57Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 36:57Speaker 00

  Where I'd like, I'd be like, hey, we gotta get, we gotta get rid of you and then say that you're dead. And then we'll just do the podcast and, and hope Ben Johnson doesn't listen.

• 37:05Speaker 04

  Yeah, you can fake kill me. That's fine.

• 37:07Speaker 00

  I think he's the best coach in the NFL. I would not trade him for any other coach in the NFL.

• 37:11Speaker 04

  I mean, it was, it was a great game plan that he had and.

• 37:14Speaker 00

  Incredible.

• 37:15Speaker 04

  And Case Keenum played awesome. Even the, the last minute, the, uh, the touchdown scramble that he had or the sneak, the designed sneak. Hey, we're just not going to block Philly's defensive tackles. I hope you're cool with that, Case.

• 37:25Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 37:25Speaker 04

  You know, how old is he? 38?

• 37:26Speaker 00

  He might've called that on his own, by the way. He's 38.

• 37:28Speaker 04

  You're 38, Case. You, you probably won't mind getting hit by some defensive tackles and then just nobody was there. Yeah. And they, they trusted him. They let him throw the ball downfield too.

• 37:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 37:37Speaker 04

  It was cool.

• 37:38Speaker 00

  He, he, it was to, to watch the Bears get off the mat after a week two game that was really tough to watch. And you know, you had, I, I, part of my love for Ben Johnson is how much the rest of the NFL hates him. And I'm, I'm not saying like anyone in this room, I'm saying the, uh, like executives, and I don't know if you guys saw, but after week two, Mike Sando did one of his like blind reporting, like talking to executives and coaches in the league. And this is week two, two games in, and he had this quote, uh, the Bears are entering into this world where it's like Ben Johnson is constantly out of his, out over his skis and they have come through. Well, now guess what? They got smacked in the face and scored three points. What does that mean?

• 38:20Speaker 00

  It means that Ben Johnson is going to drop his nuts on the table and be like, hey, this guy who hasn't started in, in years is going to, uh, run a perfect offense. And like, you know, going into it, the narrative was Ben Johnson's only called plays for number one overall picks.

• 38:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 38:34Speaker 00

  And Jared Goff and Caleb Williams. Doesn't matter. Ben Johnson is the man. I would not trade him for any other coach. I get it. There's coaches that have Superbowl rings. There's coaches have been doing it for longer, but if you said, hey, Ben Johnson, trade him for Andy Reid. I wouldn't do it. I wouldn't do it.

• 38:48Speaker 04

  You said something interesting there, big cat. People are going to want to know. You said, it doesn't matter. Caleb Williams, Jared Goff, Case Keenum.

• 38:56Speaker 00

  Oh, well, I, I do think that, I mean, obviously Caleb Williams is the quarterback. He has the highest ceiling. He's, he will run the offense to a level. I mean, he scored 59 points.

• 39:05Speaker 04

  There will be people at home that are, that are saying.

• 39:08Speaker 00

  I love it.

• 39:08Speaker 04

  Address the system QB allegations.

• 39:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, that, that's great. Uh, I, I welcome that discourse because it's, uh, it's like, when you don't have anything else to say, you're like, hey, system QB.

• 39:18Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 39:19Speaker 00

  It's like, it's the last button you can press. I just think Ben Johnson is so good at coaching and, and you could see it in the game plan. Like he was the, the, the, last year on Black Friday, the Bears ran it down the Eagles throat. The Eagles all week were saying, we can't let that happen again. And they did a pretty good job. I think we only had 27 rushing yards in the first half. Ben Johnson said, okay, I'm going to basically make the game plan out of making your linebackers just be in distress constantly with Khalil, Kalief Raymond and Luther Burden across the middle and Case Keenum throwing on time. And that's how we're going to win the game. And that's how they did it. And yeah, it was, it was just, I like, I'm starting to get some, some

• 40:00Speaker 00

  feelings that are, are scary, but the Bears are, are good, good. And that was, uh, it was a fun, fun watch.

• 40:06Speaker 04

  I, I thought what Ben Johnson did best was slow down the, the Eagles pass rush.

• 40:10Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 40:10Speaker 04

  And make their linebackers, like you said, make them confused. What, what Max? Max is shaking his head.

• 40:16Speaker 03

  We're going to.

• 40:16Speaker 04

  Case Keenum was getting the ball out with him. Like that, it wasn't slowing down the pass rush. It was just getting the ball out before the pass rush could get there. He got the ball out, but what I'm saying, like big cat was talking about the, the linebackers being kind of in conflict all the time. Like.

• 40:30Speaker 03

  But the pass rush had no chance to ever even start because Case Keenum was getting the ball out in the second and a half.

• 40:34Speaker 04

  He was.

• 40:34Speaker 03

  Every time.

• 40:35Speaker 04

  He was, he was getting the ball out extremely quickly, but Ben Johnson was also dialing it back to some formations that I haven't seen since playing Madden in like 1994, where you've got two guys in the backfield and like the pro set formation.

• 40:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. And he was doing, I mean, Ben Johnson does stuff like. Where it's, oh, it's obvious first down where it's like, hey, this is going to be a run. Sam Roush is on the field who's a blocking tight end and Colson Loveland and Cole Komet aren't there. Oh, Cleef Raymond across the middle, like shit like that, where he just keeps the defense on their toes. And yeah, I just, it was, it was, it was so much fun to watch. I'm happy for Case Keenum. It's, it's pretty cool, like that he has, has this story and is able to play one more time. He did tell an anecdote that, uh, to lock in this week, he put his phone on do not disturb all week. And the only, like, you know, the, the setting that you could do that someone can go through, do not disturb.

• 41:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 41:26Speaker 00

  He had it Ben Johnson and his wife. And he's like, guess who called me and hit me up more? And it was Ben Johnson, obviously by a lot.

• 41:33Speaker 04

  I love that. And then when he had like his daughter on the post game.

• 41:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:37Speaker 04

  That was an awesome moment and, and she had never really gotten to see him play.

• 41:39Speaker 00

  Right.

• 41:40Speaker 04

  And he was like, yeah, so now she believes me that, that daddy's a quarterback.

• 41:44Speaker 00

  It's just so cool.

• 41:45Speaker 04

  And we're going to watch the tape together. It was, it was a pretty cool moment for sure. Um, yeah, the, the offense, if, if people are accusing you of system quarterbackery, that means that you have good quarterback.

• 41:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 41:56Speaker 04

  And that means that your team is playing well.

• 41:57Speaker 00

  Yeah. And the system is awesome. And that, and it is just crazy watching a, like, if you say you're going into a game with QB3, who's 38 years old, I think most people in their head would be like, there's no way you can, can win. But that's what Ben Johnson does. He gives you a chance to, to win every game. It took me till 6:46 PM, about 35 minutes before kickoff, where I was like, you know what? Case Keenum's going to be awesome tonight. So it did take me a while, but I got there. I also, the, the tweet that I had from 2019 saying, RIP Case Keenum. I can't wait for him to win a, a game as a random backup in five years. I was off by a couple of years.

• 42:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 42:35Speaker 00

  But still.

• 42:36Speaker 04

  That's pretty close.

• 42:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, it was pretty damn close.

• 42:38Speaker 04

  People do, like, when they look at Case Keenum, they, they think, I, I, what do we say on this show? He is the Andy Dalton of Cooper rushes.

• 42:44Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 42:45Speaker 04

  Um, he was an awesome quarterback in college.

• 42:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 42:48Speaker 04

  Like he is, I think he has the all time yardage record, right?

• 42:51Speaker 00

  Yeah, his senior year at Houston was insane.

• 42:53Speaker 04

  Yeah, he was, he was a great college quarterback. He is now, I think the only quarterback besides Ryan Fitzpatrick to win for seven different NFL teams.

• 43:01Speaker 00

  That is a fact.

• 43:02Speaker 04

  As a starter.

• 43:03Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 43:04Speaker 04

  Which is awesome. I'm shocked that Josh Johnson isn't also on that list.

• 43:06Speaker 00

  That is kind of crazy.

• 43:08Speaker 04

  That's pretty wild that, I guess he just hasn't really gotten into ga, he's, he's only, he pops up once every like four years.

• 43:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. He also, Case Keenum, uh, crazy Case Keenum stat, he has 32 wins as a starting QB in the NFL, including playoffs. Nine of those 32 wins, so 28% of his wins have come against a, uh, Super Bowl winning quarterback.

• 43:28Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm.

• 43:29Speaker 00

  So he, he, he can, he can step up in the moment. And, uh, he also, a, a crazy Case Keenum stat, he was playing last night, obviously, and, uh, Sean Mannion, who was calling plays for the Eagles, uh, also threw a pass for the Rams in 2016 as well as Case Keenum. So they were teammates.

• 43:47Speaker 04

  That is cool.

• 43:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. And there was also the great poll by memes, when Andy Dalton got in for a minute, uh, it was that cover of, what, what was the cover from? Texas football, cut above, uh, the 2010 preview, and it was Case Keenum, uh, Jared Johnson and Andy Dalton.

• 44:06Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 44:07Speaker 00

  And they were all there on Monday Night Football.

• 44:09Speaker 04

  Uh, I think all three recruited to play safety for Mac Brown.

• 44:12Speaker 00

  Yes, exactly.

• 44:14Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 44:15Speaker 00

  So yeah, it was, it was a great night and it was, uh, very fun to watch. Do you want, do we talk about the Eagles side of it?

• 44:19Speaker 04

  Well, one, one thing real quick. So we talked about the blitz. He was 11 of 11.

• 44:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:24Speaker 04

  For 145 yards and two touchdowns, throwing against the blitz last night, which is pretty fucking good for a 38-year-old guy.

• 44:32Speaker 00

  It was.

• 44:33Speaker 04

  That has, that hasn't seen it in a while.

• 44:34Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 44:35Speaker 04

  So whatever they were doing during the week to simulate the pressure was pretty impressive. And before we get to, to Max, I just want to say, big cat, um, welcome to the club.

• 44:42Speaker 00

  What's the club?

• 44:43Speaker 04

  Oh, the, you don't know the club?

• 44:45Speaker 00

  The club. Yeah, what's the?

• 44:47Speaker 04

  You now join the commanders. We both have, uh, two quarterbacks that have more passing yards than Drake May.

• 44:51Speaker 00

  Oh, is that, is just us?

• 44:54Speaker 04

  I know the Seahawks as well.

• 44:55Speaker 00

  Seahawks also.

• 44:56Speaker 04

  There's three teams.

• 44:57Speaker 00

  Two quarterbacks.

• 44:58Speaker 04

  Yeah, two quarterbacks. Welcome to the club.

• 45:00Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 45:01Speaker 04

  You're welcome.

• 45:02Speaker 00

  It's good to be in the club.

• 45:03Speaker 04

  It's a great club.

• 45:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:05Speaker 04

  Great club.

• 45:06Speaker 00

  I actually think there's also a world, and, and this is crazy to say, I think Tyson Bajin might start on Sunday.

• 45:10Speaker 04

  So I was.

• 45:11Speaker 00

  And I, I, I don't care. Ben Johnson, whatever he does.

• 45:13Speaker 03

  I feel bad for, for Case Keenum in that case, because his post game, like, it was, it was a good, like, his post game speech to the locker room afterwards, where he's like, you know, I've gotten, I've had this taken away from me before, like, this means a lot.

• 45:26Speaker 00

  And then he said.

• 45:27Speaker 03

  And he played so good. Yeah, he's like, I might not be a cowboy, but this ain't my first rodeo.

• 45:31Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 45:32Speaker 03

  And it was like, you know, that's a feel-good moment. It's like, he played great. It must suck to be like, yeah, I got this. I could still, I could still do this. And it's like, yeah, you're not playing again.

• 45:40Speaker 00

  I, I think he's, he's going to be fine either way. I, I actually feel the reverse. I feel bad for Tyson Bajin, because he finally was going to get his chance and he got concussed and then Case Keenum balled out. It doesn't really matter. I think that, like, whatever Ben Johnson does, i- if he starts Tyson Bajin and people are like, how can you not have Case Ke- it's because it's Ben Johnson. You just go with whatever he decides.

• 46:00Speaker 04

  Yeah. I mean, I don't know. I think, I think they might go back to Tyson Bajin.

• 46:05Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, he said, I think he said after he's QB2, uh, but I, I don't know. It, it, it doesn't matter. It's Ben, Ben Johnson can pick anything, do anything, and I'm just going to follow him. Like with the, the, the fourth down, uh, go for it, which was a terrible sequence for the Bears, when Rome, Odunze dropped the pass, and then they went for it on fourth down. Everyone's like, oh, you have to go up 10 with the backup quarterback. No, no. Ben Johnson's going to play aggressive and as he plays aggressive, it's going to, if you play aggressive the same way all season long, the numbers will eventually be in your favor. And that's the thing. It's not, he's doing it in a way, he's not going to flip-flop, he's not going to be like, oh, situationally, I have to do this, I have to do that. No, no. He's going to be pedal to the metal the whole time, and I trust that.

• 46:47Speaker 04

  All right, yes. Start, start interrupting. Max, a lot to talk about. Big day today.

• 46:52Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 46:53Speaker 00

  Well, we already talked about the Phillies, which we're doing everything out of order.

• 46:55Speaker 02

  Definitely went well.

• 46:56Speaker 00

  We did, we, we did the baseball late at night, uh, via Zoom, and now we're back in studio. We're taping this in the morning before any baseball's been, uh, played.

• 47:05Speaker 04

  Would you like to apologize for earlier getting too upset about the Phillies on the pod? When we recorded, when we recorded later on tonight?

• 47:13Speaker 02

  No, I mean, this is, this is, that was a scheduled loss today.

• 47:16Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 47:17Speaker 02

  That was a scheduled loss because they couldn't, they couldn't win until game, game 162 and had to pitch their ace on Sunday.

• 47:23Speaker 04

  Got you. All right, so yeah, Monday Night Football. What, what went through your head, Max?

• 47:27Speaker 02

  The Eagle, I mean, I said it all week, that everyone was saying that it was Case Keenum against, against the Eagles and it, it has to be a win, blah, blah, blah. The Eagles have not looked good in either of the two games that they played going into last night. Cam Ward sucks. As a guy who watched the tape of that game, tape guy, Cam Ward, any competent quarterback wins that game, and it's the fucking Titans against the Eagles. Like, I, the defense didn't look good in that game. They didn't look anything like they did last year. And Jalen Hurts played very well the first two games to basically will, will those games to victory, and then he played a bad game last night, and that's what happened.

• 48:07Speaker 00

  Not according to Manuel Ocho.

• 48:08Speaker 02

  No, well, and I don't know when Emmanuel, Jalen Hurts did play really well in the first half. We all, we all were saying it.

• 48:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 48:17Speaker 02

  In the first half, he was great. And then the third half, in the, in the third half, the third quarter, he was fucking horrendous. And then that's what happened.

• 48:23Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 48:24Speaker 00

  I'm going to, wait, I'm going to find exactly when he, uh, oh, it was, okay. It was, it was, it was early in the game, so.

• 48:31Speaker 02

  I mean, in the first half, he had a, he was 11 for 13 for 122 yards with like, I think the Bears pass, or the Bears pressure rate was getting there in less than two seconds, and he was still 11 of 13.

• 48:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, Bears defense, I, I should have said more about the Bears defense. The Bears defense was, that, that was the best game they've played in a long time. Second half, got the pressure. The Enneman's an absolute stud. I know Andy Dalton kind of threw him, uh, an easy one, but the Bears defense is the weakness of this team, and they were not on Monday night. They played their fucking asses off.

• 49:03Speaker 02

  In the second, I mean, the first half, the Eagles were moving the ball, were moving the ball.

• 49:07Speaker 00

  Saquon was running it down.

• 49:08Speaker 02

  Saquon was running it down their throat, and we just couldn't stop shooting ourselves in the fucking foot with penalties. And Andy Dal, and the Andy Dalton situation of it all.

• 49:16Speaker 00

  Do you think Nick Sirianni should have called a timeout there?

• 49:18Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 49:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, that was a little weird.

• 49:20Speaker 02

  I, I thought there must have been some sort of rule of why he couldn't call all of his timeouts to get him back in.

• 49:26Speaker 00

  I feel like one timeout would have gotten him back in.

• 49:29Speaker 02

  I don't, he should have used all of the timeouts to get him back in that game.

• 49:33Speaker 04

  Even faking injury, have a guy just like lay down on the field.

• 49:36Speaker 02

  I mean, I, before, we were, we were streaming, before that play, I just said, I knew that they were going to throw it. They took Saquon out of the game. Everyone knew they were going to throw it, and the only thing I said is, Andy, don't do fucking, don't do something dumb here. Don't do something dumb. And he did the dumbest thing ever.

• 49:52Speaker 04

  It's pretty dumb. And he should have, there should be a signal where, okay, our quarterback's almost out of the blue tent, we think he's fine. Andy, lay down on the ground and grab your knee.

• 50:01Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 50:02Speaker 04

  And then we'll, we'll bring the card out for you.

• 50:03Speaker 02

  That would have been, I mean, yeah. Anything would have worked other than what they did.

• 50:07Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was, it was a bad choice. Uh, but, I mean, credit also to, to Jalen Hurts. The operation at the end of the first half was awesome. Getting that quarterback sneak in with like, a tenth of a second.

• 50:17Speaker 02

  In the first half, he was great. We were, we were all saying that Jalen Hurts was playing an awesome game in the first half, and then the third quarter came and he just shit down his leg.

• 50:23Speaker 04

  Do you think, uh, DeMarco Jackson is a fucking pussy?

• 50:28Speaker 02

  What?

• 50:29Speaker 00

  Nick Sirianni. DeMarco Jackson's the one who hit. I mean, it was kind of bang, bang. I don't, I don't think it was like fully out of bounds.

• 50:35Speaker 02

  I know I

• 50:36Speaker 00

  He was stepping as he got hit.

• 50:37Speaker 02

  I didn't, I didn't really look at, look at it like that anyway. I, I think there's an argument to be made that it was, that it was a clean hit.

• 50:43Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Football play. Yeah. Oh, do you think?

• 50:45Speaker 02

  But, but also I think there's an argument to be made that they shouldn't, he didn't, he didn't get hit in the head in any way, and he shouldn't have had to go to the tent, but that's

• 50:52Speaker 00

  That's also

• 50:52Speaker 04

  I think what happened, his head probably bounced off.

• 50:54Speaker 02

  It didn't.

• 50:55Speaker 04

  It didn't? Okay. Cause I, I saw the hit and it was, it was clean. It was to the shoulders. And he, yeah, he flew back and it was kind of a, it was a tough hit. It was a

• 51:03Speaker 02

  I think they just saw that it was a big hit and they were like, there's got it. He had to have hit his head somewhere and he didn't.

• 51:08Speaker 00

  Do you see any irony in Nick Sirianni calling DeMarco Jackson a pussy and then Nick Sirianni not going for it on fourth and one midfield with three and a half minutes left in the third quarter?

• 51:19Speaker 02

  That was a big pussy move.

• 51:21Speaker 00

  That was a crazy move.

• 51:22Speaker 02

  Love going, or keep going back to that.

• 51:25Speaker 00

  And then he went forward on fourth and five.

• 51:27Speaker 02

  But then he got a three and out.

• 51:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 51:28Speaker 02

  So it wasn't like that, it wasn't that big of a deal in the grand scheme of the game like that. I get it. Like I, I was pissed in the moment. Looking back on it, it's a pussy move to not do that. But he did, it did work out kind of what he was thinking of like, okay.

• 51:45Speaker 00

  Pin him.

• 51:45Speaker 02

  Trust the defense, get, get the ball back, good field position with, you know, you're down a distance. So it's like, I'm mad about it, looking back at it, but in the scheme of the game, it wasn't that big of a deal.

• 51:56Speaker 04

  When you look at the Eagles offense compared to last year, are you happy with, with the changes?

• 52:02Speaker 02

  It looks like a lot of the same.

• 52:03Speaker 04

  Mm hmm. The first half, like you said, better. Second half, I would, I was thinking a lot of the same.

• 52:09Speaker 02

  Oh yeah. We completely abandoned the run, even though we were dominating them in the run game in the first half. The bubble screens, the bubble screens are an absolute joke. The offensive line is bad. Like the offensive, like the, the strength of the Eagles team for the past six years has always been run the football, rely on your offensive line. Now you have to rely on Jalen Hurts, who is, at this point, he is just an inconsistent quarterback. Like that is what I've found about Jalen Hurts is that he has stretches where he looks fantastic and looks very good. And then he has stretches like, like he had in the third quarter where it's really bad. It went, it goes back to last year. I still think, like you can see

• 52:53Speaker 02

  it, like a lot of this year, he's capable of playing really well, but then he goes through these stretches where he's just really bad.

• 53:00Speaker 00

  Can, can I, uh, ask a question about Jalen Hurts that I noticed it more last night than ever before. And I think we all have talked about it, but Jalen Hurts is so good. And I, I think Jalen Hurts is a good quarterback. I don't buy into the like, he stinks. He's, he's, he's bad. Jalen Hurts is so good at evading the rush, but when he rolls out, he never completes a pass.

• 53:23Speaker 02

  He is terri-

• 53:24Speaker 00

  It's crazy.

• 53:25Speaker 02

  He is terrible at, he, if he, if he evades a rush, he has to run.

• 53:30Speaker 00

  Right.

• 53:30Speaker 02

  Because he cannot make a throw on the run.

• 53:32Speaker 00

  There was that one, there was that one last night where it was like, Devante Smith was actually open and Jalen Hurts still threw it away.

• 53:40Speaker 02

  I like, I don't even think he was trying to, he just is, he's incapable of throwing on the run, but like the reason he got to that situation is because the, the pocket completely collapsed on him.

• 53:51Speaker 00

  Right.

• 53:51Speaker 02

  And he did a great job of evading the, the pass rush, but he just can't finish the play with that.

• 53:57Speaker 00

  It's just

• 53:57Speaker 02

  So bad at throwing outside of the pocket.

• 53:59Speaker 00

  If you get him out of the pocket, it's an auto incompletion if he's not running the ball.

• 54:05Speaker 02

  Yes. So like he has to run and he is good. Like he is good at running and picking up yards after he gets out of the pocket, but that's his only success rate.

• 54:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like, it's like the, like there's guys, like when you think of like the best quarterbacks right now in the league, like Josh Allen, Mahomes, Brock Purdy, like Brock Purdy had that play on Sunday where he was jumping out of bounds and made a completion. Like that's

• 54:25Speaker 02

  That was

• 54:26Speaker 00

  That's the difference. Yeah. Where it's like, not only can they get out of the, a collapsing pocket, but then they can still throw it downfield. And I feel like Jalen Hurts, that's the part of his game that's the most lacking. Like if he could fix that, I don't know what the fix is. The Eagles offense would probably look a lot better.

• 54:42Speaker 04

  Russell Wilson was the best at that, when he would scramble.

• 54:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 54:44Speaker 04

  And, and still like somehow lock it would be down there.

• 54:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 54:47Speaker 04

  And he would find him, but yeah.

• 54:48Speaker 00

  Cause Jalen Hurts does keep like four to five plays a game alive that very few quarterbacks could keep alive. It's just when he keeps it alive, it then dies.

• 54:58Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. So the offense does look very similar to last year. I agree with that. Um, what about, what about the defense?

• 55:05Speaker 02

  Defense is an enormous problem. It turns out not being able to re-sign the Kobe Dean and having Jahad Campbell take his spot is not working out for any of the parties involved. Jahad Campbell was horrendous last night. He was so bad and he hasn't been good all year. And the Kobe Dean is like part of the reason that the Raiders are three and O right now. He's been fucking awesome for the Raiders.

• 55:27Speaker 04

  Mm hmm.

• 55:28Speaker 02

  And that's a, that's a big deal.

• 55:30Speaker 00

  Hey, did you, did you have questions?

• 55:32Speaker 03

  No, I mean, it's tough. It's, it's, I, I wish I could, I wish I could make fun of Max more, but given the state of, of my current team, it's a little bit harder. The, the Devante Smith sideline video was, was, made me laugh at least.

• 55:46Speaker 02

  That's the fucking camera crew. They, like, you, it's, it was a completely

• 55:50Speaker 00

  He looked

• 55:50Speaker 02

  ejecting.

• 55:51Speaker 03

  Depressed.

• 55:52Speaker 02

  Yeah. Like you, you're, they're, you're getting your ass kicked in on national TV, Monday night football. Like no, no one is gonna look happy in that moment. You were, they were getting fucking stomped on.

• 56:04Speaker 03

  Maybe it was because of that attitude.

• 56:06Speaker 02

  I mean, he played that.

• 56:08Speaker 00

  Hey, that catch was insane.

• 56:09Speaker 02

  Yeah. That, that, that's what I'm saying. The first half, that catch and throw was perfect. Like

• 56:14Speaker 00

  Here's a spin zone, Max. It could be worse. AJ Brown could still be on the team. Cause then it would've looked really bad. Like in terms of, uh, sideline body language.

• 56:25Speaker 02

  I'm not, well, then the cameras just would have, it would have been the Taylor Swift of like, let me, let's make sure that we get AJ.

• 56:32Speaker 00

  He would have brought out

• 56:34Speaker 04

  Do you think maybe Devante Smith has been skating by for the last couple of years because AJ Brown's always drawing the camera attention?

• 56:40Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 56:40Speaker 04

  And now Devante Smith actually a problem. Now we're only

• 56:43Speaker 02

  He didn't do anything.

• 56:45Speaker 04

  It sounded from Hank like he did something.

• 56:47Speaker 02

  He, he looked like he was upset that they were losing the football game.

• 56:50Speaker 00

  Okay. Hank didn't like his body language.

• 56:52Speaker 04

  Yeah. I think it's valid.

• 56:53Speaker 03

  I, I laughed. It made me laugh.

• 56:55Speaker 04

  Oh, he liked it. Oh, he liked his body language.

• 56:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 56:58Speaker 00

  We'll translate for you, cause you guys don't talk anymore.

• 57:01Speaker 02

  What?

• 57:02Speaker 00

  No.

• 57:02Speaker 04

  You guys just point now. Uh, Max, I think it's gonna be okay. I think you need to stay

• 57:06Speaker 02

  No, I, Sunday must compete.

• 57:10Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 57:10Speaker 04

  Why not even a must win?

• 57:12Speaker 02

  Must compete.

• 57:13Speaker 00

  Yeah. The Rams, they needed win bad.

• 57:16Speaker 02

  Right. Like if they, if they look like they did last night on Sunday against the Rams, season over.

• 57:21Speaker 04

  Mm hmm. Do you need, do you need Jalen to look better?

• 57:26Speaker 02

  Jalen had a bad quarter. Like he looked very good in the first half and like, that's what I'm saying. It was a really, really, really bad quarter. So I'm not excusing him for that.

• 57:38Speaker 04

  After, after they had shown that, that defense.

• 57:40Speaker 02

  There was a lot of, there was a lot of he's still running last night.

• 57:44Speaker 04

  There was a lot of

• 57:44Speaker 02

  There was a lot of he's still running.

• 57:46Speaker 04

  He missed a lot of guys.

• 57:46Speaker 00

  Were people accusing him of being a big stupid pick guy? I mean, it was fourth down.

• 57:50Speaker 02

  It was fourth down. That's, that's the only thing.

• 57:52Speaker 00

  The fourth down is like, who cares?

• 57:53Speaker 02

  But the, no, it was more of a he's still running because he, he was like fourth down. There's a guy there. I'm throwing it to Devante Smith no matter what, instead of actually surveying the field. Like

• 58:05Speaker 00

  They had three, we had three guys on

• 58:06Speaker 02

  It was one of those where it was like, I'm throwing this to, to Devante Smith. I don't care if it gets picked cause it's fourth down.

• 58:11Speaker 04

  Right.

• 58:11Speaker 02

  So that's like, that's the only difference of

• 58:13Speaker 04

  Like a punt. Yeah.

• 58:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 58:15Speaker 04

  But also you'd like him to see the guy that would

• 58:17Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 58:17Speaker 04

  That would hit his head.

• 58:18Speaker 02

  That's what I'm saying is that, that is the problem is that there were multiple times last night where he didn't find the open guy. It's like, that was less of like a, you gotta protect the football. You gotta protect the football because it wasn't, he wasn't trying to protect the football in that situation.

• 58:33Speaker 04

  What's the

• 58:33Speaker 02

  But he's gotta find the open guy.

• 58:34Speaker 04

  What's the common thread between the offense last year and the offense this year?

• 58:39Speaker 02

  Jalen Hurts and Nick Sirianni. And that's what everyone, everyone is saying.

• 58:41Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 58:42Speaker 00

  Is Nick Sirianni in the hot seat?

• 58:44Speaker 02

  No.

• 58:46Speaker 04

  No?

• 58:46Speaker 02

  Not yet.

• 58:47Speaker 00

  How, what temperature is his seat?

• 58:52Speaker 02

  Are we're going off, we're going off Fahrenheit?

• 58:55Speaker 00

  Yes. No. So you know what? Let's do Celsius.

• 58:57Speaker 02

  Celsius?

• 58:58Speaker 04

  I'd like you to do Kelvin.

• 59:00Speaker 02

  Kelvin, Kelvin, I could probably do.

• 59:01Speaker 00

  Fahrenheit.

• 59:04Speaker 02

  It's

• 59:06Speaker 02

  it's like 80, it's like 81.

• 59:08Speaker 00

  So he, he's got maybe like two of the three seat warmers on in his car?

• 59:13Speaker 02

  I would say one and a half, one and a half seat warmers.

• 59:16Speaker 00

  One and a half seat warmers. I don't think they have that in the settings, but that's fine. Maybe one seat warmer and a juicy fart.

• 59:22Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 59:23Speaker 00

  You know, you actually heat up your seat.

• 59:25Speaker 04

  Do you think that he should be on the hot seat? Because I feel like he, he coaches better when he is on the hot seat.

• 59:30Speaker 00

  True.

• 59:30Speaker 02

  That is true.

• 59:32Speaker 04

  You're actually doing him a disservice.

• 59:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. You need to actually call for his job.

• 59:35Speaker 04

  Has Max lost his fastball?

• 59:37Speaker 02

  No, I mean, yesterday, the, that was one of the worst coach games I've ever seen in my life last night. Just absolutely zero preparation. Looked like it went into that game.

• 59:47Speaker 00

  The, you're, you're very calm right now, which I feel like the, you've digested it last night. Yeah. I mean, it was

• 59:54Speaker 02

  Last night I was mad. Yeah. It was, it was, you got, you got absolutely embarrassed by Case Keenum on, on Monday night football.

• 1:00:00Speaker 04

  Yeah. In front of the world.

• 1:00:02Speaker 02

  You got absolutely embarrassed by Case Keenum on Monday night football.

• 1:00:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. Jalen Hurts got outplayed by Case Keenum.

• 1:00:08Speaker 02

  Not even close, like

• 1:00:10Speaker 00

  Not even close to close.

• 1:00:11Speaker 02

  Not even close.

• 1:00:11Speaker 04

  Like it was

• 1:00:12Speaker 02

  And Ben Johnson had those guys

• 1:00:15Speaker 00

  In hell.

• 1:00:15Speaker 02

  The difference, the, the, the difference in game plan was a, whatever.

• 1:00:20Speaker 04

  Yeah. Max, can I, can we give you some, make you feel better?

• 1:00:25Speaker 02

  Well, yeah, sure.

• 1:00:27Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:00:27Speaker 02

  I don't believe that this is actually gonna make me feel

• 1:00:29Speaker 04

  Why? Why is that?

• 1:00:30Speaker 00

  Why would, why would the

• 1:00:31Speaker 04

  We always

• 1:00:32Speaker 00

  Entire history as friends in a show, would you think that PFT would be doing something that wouldn't make you feel better?

• 1:00:38Speaker 04

  We always look out for each other, Max.

• 1:00:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, always.

• 1:00:41Speaker 04

  Yeah. Okay. Well, a little positivity memes. Can you give him his present?

• 1:00:46Speaker 02

  Oh my God.

• 1:00:48Speaker 04

  Thank, thank, thank you memes.

• 1:00:51Speaker 00

  Oh. It's Jalen.

• 1:00:54Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 1:00:54Speaker 04

  It's a wacky Jalen Hurts inflatable figure. Yeah. Is that nice?

• 1:00:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's great.

• 1:01:00Speaker 00

  Beautiful.

• 1:01:00Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 1:01:01Speaker 04

  Yeah. You're welcome.

• 1:01:02Speaker 00

  Do you like it?

• 1:01:05Speaker 03

  So happy. Thank you.

• 1:01:07Speaker 04

  You looked like you might want to stab it.

• 1:01:09Speaker 03

  No, no, that's what you want. You want me to do that.

• 1:01:11Speaker 04

  I don't. I want you to be happy. That's why I got it for you.

• 1:01:15Speaker 00

  We screwed up. We should have probably recorded last night because Max is filled out. He's Phillies. It's Phillies. It's all Phillies right now. Eagles are a problem for another day. Okay. What else we got? Any other cleanup? We're going to do all college football with Stanford Steve. Any other cleanup from Sunday? We did have the, the, the old guys being good again because it was Case Keenum, Aaron Rodgers, Jacoby, or sorry, Jameis Winston. Who else? Oh, Marcus Mariota, Kirk Cousins. Am I missing one? There was someone else, I think. All won a game on Sunday. It was also the, the teams who started their non-week one QB all went six and oh, or, or six and oh.

• 1:01:59Speaker 00

  In week three. It's pretty crazy.

• 1:02:01Speaker 04

  That is pretty good. Yeah.

• 1:02:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Actually, that's all season, not just week three, because Drew Locke won week two.

• 1:02:07Speaker 04

  And we, we got into the trade for J.J. McCarthy with Steve, which happened like as we were recording the interview with him. There's been some fallout from it.

• 1:02:15Speaker 00

  I love it for both sides.

• 1:02:17Speaker 04

  Fifth round pick seems like it's a little light.

• 1:02:20Speaker 00

  Okay. Yes. But I said this before the season. I do not, like, the minute you make Kyler Murray QB one, you have to trade J.J. McCarthy. Because there's just, there's always going to be a weird locker room tension. You're not going to start him. You're not going to play him. So you just gotta, you just gotta move on from your mistake and get anything back for it. I think fifth round pick, I think it's like addition by subtraction where you get a fifth round pick and you also get this entire narrative headache out of your room.

• 1:02:52Speaker 04

  You get the narrative out.

• 1:02:53Speaker 00

  That's not J.J. McCarthy's fault. It's not, it's not like he was a narrative headache, but you know, you know what I'm saying? Like the, the conversation will always be there if J.J. McCarthy is on the roster.

• 1:03:02Speaker 04

  Trey Lance went for a fourth round pick a couple of years ago. So that's why I'm saying it feels like it's a little light for J.J. McCarthy.

• 1:03:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:08Speaker 04

  Cause I, I, you can say what you want about what you've seen out of him, but I, we haven't seen a lot. So you never know. He did win a lot of games in college. And I think Carbal obviously talked to his brother about that and got as much intel as he can. I'm interested to see what happens if they start winning football games.

• 1:03:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:27Speaker 04

  Like if, what if J.J. Balls out for the rest of the year?

• 1:03:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:03:31Speaker 04

  What if nine shows up?

• 1:03:32Speaker 00

  I think, uh, listen, for the Giants side of it, it, it is the smartest thing to do because you have an offense that can run, like Matt Nagy has created an offense for Jackson Dart. J.J. McCarthy has similar skillsets. What happens if he's really, really good? You now have two young quarterbacks, both cost controlled that you can have options with. What happens if he's really, really bad? You're, get a good draft pick.

• 1:03:57Speaker 04

  It doesn't matter at all. So yeah, it's, I hope that they let him run because that's when he's at his best is when he, he's able and available to use his legs as a, another part of the running game. And it felt like in Minnesota, they didn't want him doing that as much.

• 1:04:12Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:04:12Speaker 04

  And so maybe this will be a better offense for him. The big question is, is he going to get the number nine? That would be a disaster.

• 1:04:18Speaker 00

  Isaiah Likely currently wears like.

• 1:04:19Speaker 03

  I think they have like one through 19 all accounted for. I saw a tweet saying that.

• 1:04:23Speaker 00

  I was saying, what about, what about 99?

• 1:04:26Speaker 04

  99 for a quarterback? I don't know if they're allowed to.

• 1:04:29Speaker 00

  I don't either.

• 1:04:30Speaker 04

  It would rock.

• 1:04:30Speaker 00

  It would be awesome.

• 1:04:31Speaker 04

  So looking at the tweet Max just pulled up, uh, number 10, 11, both retired. Number 16 retired and everything else is spoken for.

• 1:04:42Speaker 00

  I have another question.

• 1:04:43Speaker 04

  Jameis has 19.

• 1:04:44Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:04:45Speaker 04

  I could see Jameis.

• 1:04:46Speaker 00

  Being a good teammate.

• 1:04:47Speaker 04

  Being a good teammate and being like, I'll give you 19. I don't think that Likely is going to give up nine.

• 1:04:51Speaker 00

  I have a question.

• 1:04:54Speaker 00

  And maybe it's too early to tell because we're only three weeks into the season. What does this do though to KOC's?

• 1:05:02Speaker 00

  Like QB whisperer tag?

• 1:05:05Speaker 04

  Organizations fail quarterbacks.

• 1:05:06Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:05:07Speaker 04

  Was, was his quote.

• 1:05:08Speaker 00

  He, he obviously did a really good job with Sam Donald. Sam Donald then went and won a Super Bowl.

• 1:05:13Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:13Speaker 00

  With someone else.

• 1:05:16Speaker 00

  He, J.J. McCarthy didn't work out. He decided to move on from Kirk Cousins.

• 1:05:21Speaker 04

  Yep.

• 1:05:22Speaker 00

  And now the Vikings are three and oh. That's a lot because of their defense and Brian Flores. They have gone back to back games with one single red zone possession.

• 1:05:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:05:35Speaker 00

  So is, are we, are we rethinking KOC as a QB whisperer? Not as a bad coach. I think he's still a good coach. But the QB whisperer's part.

• 1:05:44Speaker 04

  I'm not.

• 1:05:44Speaker 00

  He's lost it.

• 1:05:45Speaker 04

  I'm not because my, my take on KOC remains the same, which is he's, he's a foster home for quarterbacks.

• 1:05:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:05:51Speaker 04

  He's the best foster dad.

• 1:05:53Speaker 00

  Thus far, the fostering of Kyler Murray hasn't looked great. I know it's a very small sample.

• 1:05:58Speaker 04

  Very small sample, itty bitty, cute little sample size, but, uh, he is, he has won football games with Carson Wentz.

• 1:06:04Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:06:04Speaker 04

  So there's that. Yeah.

• 1:06:05Speaker 00

  True. Okay. Uh, do you want to talk about NBA media day or do you want to do that in hot seat, cool throne?

• 1:06:12Speaker 03

  I had a bunch of hot seat, cool throne.

• 1:06:13Speaker 00

  All right. So let's do, let's do hot seat, cool throne. And again, we're going to do college football talk. Oh, one thing we didn't really talk about with Stanford Steve that I wanted to bring up, Lincoln Riley's got to be done, right?

• 1:06:24Speaker 04

  This is bad. So his buyout is $70 million, which is, it's a, it's a steep one. This was a bad loss. And then to have Dan Lanning just like drop his nuts on your face afterwards saying, if you want to win football games, come to Oregon. If you want to go to Chris Brown concerts, go to USC. Pretty masculating.

• 1:06:41Speaker 00

  And also the, the dirty hit.

• 1:06:42Speaker 04

  The dirty hit was bad. And then it, it wasn't just the hit. It was also

• 1:06:46Speaker 00

  The celebration.

• 1:06:47Speaker 04

  The celebration afterwards. And you had a couple of guys on USC that looked like they wanted to stop it or they tried to calm the player down. But it was bad. Those, was that Desmond Stevens?

• 1:06:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. And it was just, the whole thing was, it was ugly. It was just, it was a bad hit. And then he was celebrating, then he, I think he didn't get, I think he was on the sideline.

• 1:07:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:07:07Speaker 00

  Afterwards.

• 1:07:07Speaker 04

  I agree with our guy Stat Hole about, about the quarterback slide, which is it's designed to protect quarterbacks, but it ultimately puts them in more danger.

• 1:07:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:16Speaker 04

  Because when you're sliding, you, the only thing that's keeping the, the top half of your body up is just like your abs as you slide through. So if anybody hits you, and it doesn't even have to be a dirty hit, if they hit you in your, in your chest, in your, in your shoulder, all that's going to happen, your head is going to fly backwards into the ground.

• 1:07:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:07:32Speaker 04

  Bounce off the ground and knock you out. It feels like it, it might seem counterintuitive, but banning quarterback sliding might ultimately be better for them.

• 1:07:41Speaker 00

  Did you guys see the USC, uh, radio broadcast? One of the funniest clips. Can we play the audio of it? Because it was so funny. It was the USC home radio broadcast and their announcer, essentially just being the biggest homer of all time, which I, I actually respect when announcers do this, but I, I don't know if the guy has eyes because wait, who, what, what is his name? I want to get his name. USC radio broadcast.

• 1:08:09Speaker 00

  He, he, he's calling the hit as it's going on. All right. So Sean Cody is the one who actually was like disagree with him. Pete Arbogast. All right, play it.

• 1:08:21Speaker 07

  And Stevens went in helmet first, but he kind of ran into Dante Moore who ducked into that hit. For him. I did not see him put his feet out first. I saw him dive forward and not give himself. He's laying feet first, Pete. So he is now because they spun him around. I want to see the replay.

• 1:08:38Speaker 03

  Spun him around.

• 1:08:39Speaker 07

  Here he goes down into a, yeah, not a feet first slide, more of a knee slide. It didn't look like marketing on the replay to us.

• 1:08:49Speaker 04

  It looked like he was asking for it. Dante Moore was asking for the.

• 1:08:52Speaker 00

  His feet first, Pete. It's like, no, they, yeah, they spun him around.

• 1:08:55Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:08:56Speaker 00

  They spun the lifeless quarterback around.

• 1:08:58Speaker 04

  That's crazy. And, and what, is Lincoln Riley now 0 and 4 against Oregon?

• 1:09:02Speaker 00

  I think 0 and 3 maybe. Um, they came at the same time. Lincoln Riley and Dan Lanning were hired at the same time. And yeah, it's, uh, it's a bad, bad hit.

• 1:09:12Speaker 04

  I wonder if Dante Moore, if he's going to play at all this season. Cause I think he might just, I don't know, the statement that they put out the other day, maybe think that he might be, he might just focus on the NFL.

• 1:09:22Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:09:23Speaker 04

  I wouldn't blame him.

• 1:09:24Speaker 00

  With, with Stanford Steve, he brings up the point about Dylan Rayo, a pretty good backup, five star backup. Not a lot of teams can do that. So. Yeah. But we'll, we'll get to more college football. I, I think we talked about Wisconsin with Stanford Steve, but I am, it's, it was a good weekend. It was a good weekend to go 2-0. It's been a while for that to happen, but, uh, I feel like things are maybe turning around to the right direction for the Badgers, which is sometimes it takes a while. Things, you know, it, it takes a long time to turn some things around. And, and it feels like we're going in the right direction. Also PJ Fleck, uh, is a psycho.

• 1:09:58Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:09:59Speaker 00

  Mentioned that.

• 1:09:59Speaker 04

  Yeah. So his quarterback was bleeding on his face and then PJ was so, so excited after the win. He just ran up to him, smeared it right across his mouth almost. Drake May could learn a lot about how to handle blood on the football field from PJ Fleck.

• 1:10:12Speaker 00

  That's true.

• 1:10:13Speaker 04

  Like PJ Fleck embraces it.

• 1:10:14Speaker 00

  Also PJ Fleck had a mini Mike Tomlin moment. I don't know if you saw that.

• 1:10:18Speaker 04

  No.

• 1:10:18Speaker 00

  He threw.

• 1:10:19Speaker 04

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 1:10:19Speaker 00

  He threw his, his play card. He pretended to do a hold in the middle of a play and the play card went onto the field.

• 1:10:25Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. It looked like a flag because his, his play card was a yellow thing. PJ Fleck is a psychopath.

• 1:10:31Speaker 00

  Total psycho.

• 1:10:32Speaker 04

  Like certified insane person.

• 1:10:35Speaker 00

  I was just saying, uh, I'm not, I'm not trying to take any credit, but the Badgers have looked a lot better since I essentially told Luke Fickell, he's got to burn the vest.

• 1:10:45Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 1:10:46Speaker 00

  The vest is, the vest can never come back.

• 1:10:48Speaker 04

  They've looked good this year.

• 1:10:48Speaker 00

  Can never come back.

• 1:10:49Speaker 04

  They've looked better this year.

• 1:10:50Speaker 00

  The defense looks, looks very, very for real. Okay. Uh, let's get to hot seats, cool throne. It's brought to you by our friends at Twisted Tea. Football season is finally here. We've never been more ready for game day. We're bringing Twisted Tea along for the ride all season long. Twisted Tea is a refreshing hard iced tea made with real brewed tea and 5% alcohol. The Twisted Tea Party Pack has a little something for everyone with original half and half raspberry and peach. It's got that refreshing taste with a little kick, no carbonation and goes down smooth, making it the perfect drink to keep the good times going at the tailgate all day and all football season long. Whether you're tailgating at the stadium, crushing teas in your man cave or grilling out with friends, Twisted Tea is there to turn your day up a notch and make a good time a great time.

• 1:11:33Speaker 00

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• 1:11:39Speaker 03

  Um, my hot seat are a couple, I guess they're probably former Kings reporters at this point.

• 1:11:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:11:43Speaker 03

  NBA media day was Monday. I love how they just, you know, do it all on the same day. It's fun. A lot of clips, a lot of things to talk about coming out of media day.

• 1:11:53Speaker 03

  This was like a, there was like a break in between players coming on to do press conferences with the media and there was like a hot mic that caught a group of Kings reporters talking about how Ben Simmons was cringe. He's lucky he's so fine. And then they were like,

• 1:12:09Speaker 00

  No, no, Zach Levine was cringe, I think.

• 1:12:11Speaker 03

  No, Ben Simmons.

• 1:12:12Speaker 02

  Simmons was cringe. They hated Zach Levine's personality.

• 1:12:15Speaker 00

  Personality.

• 1:12:16Speaker 03

  But still fine.

• 1:12:17Speaker 00

  Also fine.

• 1:12:17Speaker 02

  Or no, the personality fucking annoys me.

• 1:12:20Speaker 00

  But still fine.

• 1:12:22Speaker 03

  And then one of the other male reporters, like I thought, you know, I thought you liked Jordan Poole. And she was like, yeah, I guess, you know, light skins my type. So it was, and, and, and then they've, you know, internet found the reporter. She's married. Tough scene.

• 1:12:33Speaker 00

  Oh, no, no.

• 1:12:35Speaker 03

  Tough scene all around.

• 1:12:36Speaker 00

  That's really tough. Was Ben Simmons going third person? I guess it's not, is it third person when you, you have to say your full name? Or is it, can you just say he when you're talking about yourself?

• 1:12:48Speaker 04

  I think that's second person.

• 1:12:49Speaker 00

  Second person. He went second.

• 1:12:50Speaker 04

  You hardly ever get guys going second.

• 1:12:52Speaker 00

  He went second person. They asked him if he can return to his prime and he said, I'm there. He's there. He woke up.

• 1:13:00Speaker 04

  That is third person. I think you is second person. But yeah, that's, he's inside me somewhere. Yeah.

• 1:13:05Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say right now, Ben Simmons, you, you do not get the privilege of using third person.

• 1:13:10Speaker 04

  Cringey but fine.

• 1:13:11Speaker 00

  That you have to be really, really good.

• 1:13:13Speaker 04

  I don't, I, I might disagree. I think I disagree with you on that.

• 1:13:17Speaker 00

  Why?

• 1:13:17Speaker 04

  Because.

• 1:13:18Speaker 03

  He just got to fish for like two years and now he's in Sacramento where no one cares.

• 1:13:21Speaker 00

  But I'm talking about the actual play on the basketball court. That's what he's talking about. If they'd asked Ben Simmons, how's your life going? Then he could say, yeah, he's awesome. His life is awesome.

• 1:13:31Speaker 04

  No, there was a moment when he was good.

• 1:13:33Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, I know.

• 1:13:34Speaker 04

  So he, he's talking about that guy, which is also him admitting.

• 1:13:37Speaker 00

  Oh, coming back?

• 1:13:38Speaker 04

  That he's not good anymore.

• 1:13:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:39Speaker 04

  But that guy.

• 1:13:40Speaker 00

  But he started with, I'm there.

• 1:13:42Speaker 04

  So he's where.

• 1:13:43Speaker 00

  He's saying he's back to being that guy. And then he said, he's there.

• 1:13:47Speaker 04

  I think it's very confusing for Ben Simmons.

• 1:13:49Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:13:49Speaker 04

  But yeah, Hank's right.

• 1:13:50Speaker 00

  English is his second language.

• 1:13:51Speaker 04

  Yeah, he's Australian. He's, instead of he, he should just say cunt.

• 1:13:56Speaker 03

  Australian.

• 1:13:56Speaker 04

  That, that cunt's in there. Um, yeah, Ben Simmons, good for him. This is a perfect place for him. Perfect place to do a comeback.

• 1:14:03Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:14:03Speaker 04

  Pretty much, this is like him doing like a rehab stint in, in AAA baseball.

• 1:14:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's the, Sacramento Kings are the exact opposite of Philadelphia. Literally polar opposites.

• 1:14:16Speaker 03

  Yeah. And then speaking of fall, uh, and I guess it's cool to throw more than Knicks because there was, there was Wemby talking about his, his, his quote was like, we lost to four fucking best friends.

• 1:14:27Speaker 04

  Mm-hmm. That was good.

• 1:14:28Speaker 03

  Which was just funny power friendship, cool throne. And then LeBron said he was gonna go to the Knicks before they won the championship, which

• 1:14:39Speaker 03

  I don't know if that's cringe or if that's, I don't know if that's, that's good for the Knicks. If you're sad about it.

• 1:14:44Speaker 00

  Oh, it's great for the Knicks.

• 1:14:45Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:14:46Speaker 00

  To not need LeBron to win your first title in 50 years?

• 1:14:49Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's awesome. He also said that, that Philly wasn't even on his radar until they got Jalen Brown. So like the Celtics.

• 1:14:55Speaker 02

  You're just talking about things that everyone already knew about.

• 1:14:57Speaker 04

  I know, but I, but he reiterated it.

• 1:15:00Speaker 02

  Those, those were.

• 1:15:02Speaker 03

  I feel bad for Jalen Brown already.

• 1:15:04Speaker 02

  Yeah. Even though. Jalen Brown was having a great time at media day yesterday.

• 1:15:08Speaker 04

  Whose team is it?

• 1:15:09Speaker 03

  Who's, who's the alpha max?

• 1:15:10Speaker 02

  That's, he answered that question perfectly.

• 1:15:14Speaker 04

  Which is next question.

• 1:15:15Speaker 02

  Correct.

• 1:15:15Speaker 04

  Which is not an answer.

• 1:15:17Speaker 02

  Exactly.

• 1:15:17Speaker 03

  Who do you think the alpha is?

• 1:15:19Speaker 02

  I personally think that the alpha is LeBron James, but I don't need them to be talking about who's an alpha and starting anything in the locker room. How, how would you have answered that question?

• 1:15:30Speaker 00

  I think it's Tyrese Maxey.

• 1:15:32Speaker 02

  But like that, then that, that starts a conversation of, if it's this, there was no good way of answering that question.

• 1:15:39Speaker 00

  Conversation right now about it.

• 1:15:40Speaker 04

  I think it's Joel Embiid.

• 1:15:41Speaker 02

  I think it's Jalen Brown. There you go. Like.

• 1:15:45Speaker 00

  But we're having the conversation.

• 1:15:46Speaker 04

  So you see why we want to know the answer.

• 1:15:47Speaker 03

  But like.

• 1:15:47Speaker 02

  You don't need to know the answer. They need to know the answer. We don't need to know the answer.

• 1:15:51Speaker 03

  Bunch of alphas. We're just trying to get out there and win as a team.

• 1:15:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:15:55Speaker 03

  But now saying no, no, next question. Now it's just gonna get, keep asked, keep asked, keep asked.

• 1:16:01Speaker 02

  It doesn't need now.

• 1:16:02Speaker 03

  Saying no next question is going to, like, there was a way to answer that question so that it doesn't keep getting asked.

• 1:16:08Speaker 00

  He should have, honestly, uh, if he had just answered Nick Nurse.

• 1:16:13Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:16:14Speaker 00

  It would have been over.

• 1:16:15Speaker 02

  I guess. I mean, that's also a lie.

• 1:16:18Speaker 00

  Yeah, but it would have been the move. Just be like, Nick Nurse is the alpha. He's the coach.

• 1:16:22Speaker 02

  I, I have zero issue with him just being like, this is a stupid question. That's just trying to cause drama inside, inside of the locker room and I'm not going to answer that question.

• 1:16:30Speaker 00

  It's also a little, a little pathetic that like the, the diehard LeBron fans are like mad at Jalen Brown for not saying LeBron.

• 1:16:38Speaker 02

  Oh, no.

• 1:16:39Speaker 00

  You need, you need, you need someone else to say that you're the alpha. That's the most un-alpha thing possible.

• 1:16:44Speaker 02

  Dom texted me and apologized this morning.

• 1:16:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. True alphas don't need to be told that they're alphas.

• 1:16:49Speaker 04

  I think that it would have been nice for you to say that about LeBron.

• 1:16:51Speaker 02

  He goes, this is my first stint with Philly media. I went back and listened to it. That, that question was just trying to set him up, set them up for failure. He goes, I apologize. I'll, I'll be better.

• 1:17:03Speaker 04

  I kind of agree, Matt. I think you need to, you gotta take care of him a little bit better.

• 1:17:07Speaker 02

  Take care of who?

• 1:17:07Speaker 04

  LeBron. You have the privilege of, of hosting LeBron James.

• 1:17:10Speaker 00

  Well.

• 1:17:11Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:17:11Speaker 04

  Take care of.

• 1:17:12Speaker 00

  Kind of, kind of.

• 1:17:14Speaker 02

  What are you about to say?

• 1:17:16Speaker 00

  Does he not live in New York?

• 1:17:18Speaker 02

  He got a, he.

• 1:17:19Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:17:20Speaker 02

  Philadelphia.

• 1:17:20Speaker 00

  Wow.

• 1:17:21Speaker 02

  He is, he will have two residences, a residence in New York and a residence in Philadelphia.

• 1:17:25Speaker 00

  Do you think LeBron having a residence in Philadelphia, just him, will now make Philadelphia not poor?

• 1:17:34Speaker 00

  He is a billionaire.

• 1:17:35Speaker 02

  It, it does help. It adds.

• 1:17:38Speaker 03

  LeBron's changing the economy in Philadelphia.

• 1:17:39Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah. For sure.

• 1:17:41Speaker 00

  By the way, I'm not calling Philadelphia poor. That was something, that's a callback to Max calling Philadelphia poor in relation to New York City. So he's got a place in both places.

• 1:17:49Speaker 04

  I looked at his quote when he said, I didn't leave my family to lose in the second round. That's, that's a great quote.

• 1:17:56Speaker 00

  So he got divorced?

• 1:17:56Speaker 04

  I can't, well, Tom Brady tried doing that.

• 1:17:59Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:00Speaker 02

  Tried doing what?

• 1:18:01Speaker 04

  His last season.

• 1:18:01Speaker 00

  Leaving his family.

• 1:18:02Speaker 04

  Your family. Yeah.

• 1:18:03Speaker 02

  He won.

• 1:18:04Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:04Speaker 00

  Well, not when he left his family.

• 1:18:06Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:07Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:18:07Speaker 04

  Not the last.

• 1:18:08Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 1:18:09Speaker 03

  Well, he moved in with Antonio Brown.

• 1:18:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:18:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:18:11Speaker 02

  Or vice versa.

• 1:18:12Speaker 00

  That's actually a, if you're gonna leave your family, like to move in with Antonio Brown, it, it really makes the point clear. You know?

• 1:18:21Speaker 02

  Football.

• 1:18:21Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's not like, you're not like, hey, maybe we'll get back to get, no, no, he lives with Antonio Brown now.

• 1:18:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, I'm, I'm, this is a football decision to live with AV.

• 1:18:29Speaker 00

  He didn't just get like a, a duplex right around the corner so he could see the kids. No, he, he's living with Antonio Brown.

• 1:18:35Speaker 04

  And Max, you guys are bringing back the black unis.

• 1:18:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, those are.

• 1:18:38Speaker 02

  Yeah, that was a shocker. I think LeBron was just like, he just said, I want the black unis. And then Nike was like, okay, which makes a lot of sense.

• 1:18:44Speaker 00

  Oh, so it's his team now. Is he the alpha?

• 1:18:47Speaker 02

  Well, he's definitely the alpha in Nike.

• 1:18:49Speaker 04

  No, if he's telling his teammates what to wear.

• 1:18:51Speaker 00

  Have you seen?

• 1:18:52Speaker 02

  He's telling.

• 1:18:53Speaker 00

  Oh, we should.

• 1:18:53Speaker 03

  Also, I feel like not enough people were talking about him going full bald. He looks bad.

• 1:18:57Speaker 02

  Oh, he looks incorrect.

• 1:18:59Speaker 00

  Should we, by the way, PFT, now that Max brought that up, should, when we're talking about LeBron's legacy, should we not bring up the fact that Nike's stock has completely tanked? And Max just said he's the alpha of Nike.

• 1:19:12Speaker 04

  Okay. So as chairman and CEO of Nike, is he responsible for the loss in like $3 billion in market?

• 1:19:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, let's go to this podcast to talk about the stock market.

• 1:19:21Speaker 00

  I'm just saying.

• 1:19:22Speaker 02

  Let's talk about the stock market. A bunch of guys who know everything about the stock market.

• 1:19:28Speaker 00

  Do you know what MJ did for Nike? He made it Nike.

• 1:19:31Speaker 04

  Yeah. And listen, we get paid in board apes. Um, we are heavily leveraged in Doge dating back to 2020. So I think maybe you should respect our investments a little bit more.

• 1:19:41Speaker 00

  August 1st, 2021, Nike's stock was 172, uh, a share. It is right now 35.

• 1:19:50Speaker 02

  Was LeBron playing in 2021?

• 1:19:54Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:19:54Speaker 04

  What?

• 1:19:55Speaker 02

  You're just saying, what are you talking about?

• 1:19:57Speaker 00

  I'm saying the high, the high. It is all under LeBron's watch as CEO.

• 1:20:02Speaker 02

  LeBron, what are you, what, what are we doing?

• 1:20:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. LeBron's watch as CEO. He's watched Nike just completely tank.

• 1:20:10Speaker 02

  But he was also part of the high.

• 1:20:12Speaker 00

  No, no. MJ gave LeBron Nike in 2020.

• 1:20:17Speaker 02

  What?

• 1:20:17Speaker 00

  Yeah. You didn't, you didn't know that?

• 1:20:19Speaker 02

  No, I'm not. I don't, I don't follow the stock market.

• 1:20:22Speaker 00

  LeBron's not the CEO of Nike.

• 1:20:24Speaker 04

  I mean, you could make the case after the most recent championship. Every time he wins a championship, the stock goes up. And he hasn't won a championship in a long time. So the stock's way down.

• 1:20:32Speaker 00

  That's a fact.

• 1:20:33Speaker 02

  Get ready for the time to buy stock in Nike.

• 1:20:36Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:20:37Speaker 04

  Okay, you won't. You guarantee?

• 1:20:39Speaker 02

  I don't have, I'm not guaranteeing.

• 1:20:41Speaker 00

  Okay. Uh, your cool term?

• 1:20:44Speaker 03

  My cool term was New York and friendship.

• 1:20:45Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:20:46Speaker 03

  And, and, uh, the Avengers. Did you see this embrace debate for Tyler Hero?

• 1:20:51Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:20:52Speaker 03

  I sent it to Max. Great, great question. Big J question.

• 1:20:55Speaker 00

  We're big Avengers guys. Okay.

• 1:21:00Speaker 00

  You were in a promotional campaign for Marvel Studios a few years ago, right? And as everybody knows, you know, Avengers Doomsday is about to

• 1:21:07Speaker 04

  In December, my question to you, do you believe that the Avengers are cooked? Or are they gonna win this, this, uh, you know, this year or whatever with the Avengers doomsday? And if so, how?

• 1:21:17Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:21:18Speaker 03

  Inverse debate, are the Avengers cooked?

• 1:21:20Speaker 04

  Avengers doomsday?

• 1:21:22Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 1:21:23Speaker 04

  Yeah, didn't, um, what's his name? Cook him?

• 1:21:26Speaker 00

  What's, what's Thanos?

• 1:21:29Speaker 03

  Yeah, but he cooked and they came back. Portal, they came back through the portal.

• 1:21:33Speaker 00

  What happened? What, but wasn't Spider-Man like a big movie?

• 1:21:37Speaker 03

  Mm hmm. No, he's talking about like in, in the movie.

• 1:21:40Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:21:40Speaker 03

  Are they cooked?

• 1:21:42Speaker 00

  I don't know enough about Avengers.

• 1:21:44Speaker 04

  Did it man crawl up the ass thing?

• 1:21:47Speaker 03

  No.

• 1:21:48Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:21:49Speaker 04

  Memes, what happened with that?

• 1:21:50Speaker 02

  I, I liked Hank just explaining it to you guys.

• 1:21:53Speaker 03

  Basically, like, do you think in the upcoming superhero movie that the superheroes are gonna win?

• 1:21:59Speaker 04

  Oh.

• 1:22:00Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:22:01Speaker 04

  No, I don't think so.

• 1:22:02Speaker 00

  No, that never happens.

• 1:22:03Speaker 04

  I think they're, I think they're cooked.

• 1:22:04Speaker 03

  They're cooked.

• 1:22:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, they're cooked, they're cooked.

• 1:22:06Speaker 04

  How will they, how will they wiggle their way out of this one?

• 1:22:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:22:09Speaker 04

  Probably not.

• 1:22:10Speaker 00

  Says right there Avengers doomsday, you'd assume the doomsday would be for the Avengers.

• 1:22:14Speaker 04

  This is probably gonna be.

• 1:22:14Speaker 03

  What's Doom is the, is the villain?

• 1:22:16Speaker 04

  What's crazy is like.

• 1:22:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:22:17Speaker 00

  Is that the same as Doom?

• 1:22:19Speaker 03

  It's also, uh, Tony Stark.

• 1:22:21Speaker 04

  Oh, R I P my dog. This, that's crazy because.

• 1:22:23Speaker 03

  It's not Tony Stark, but it's the same actor.

• 1:22:25Speaker 04

  It makes so much money for the studio. But there's no way they can do anymore after this because they're cooked. So yeah, I think, I think they're all dead.

• 1:22:33Speaker 02

  Did you, Big Cat and I learned this last night.

• 1:22:35Speaker 00

  Oh yeah, this nerd Connor Griffin, like, oh, I own it right now.

• 1:22:39Speaker 02

  This was insane. That event, Marvel just put Avengers in Infinity War back in the theater because they're putting in two minutes of.

• 1:22:48Speaker 00

  They added five minutes at the end of the movie.

• 1:22:50Speaker 02

  Well, then Rick said it's not even five minutes.

• 1:22:52Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:22:52Speaker 02

  Way less.

• 1:22:53Speaker 00

  And I cannot believe people don't feel like they're, they've been taken advantage of.

• 1:22:57Speaker 02

  It's exactly.

• 1:22:59Speaker 04

  That's some Taylor Swift shit.

• 1:23:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:23:00Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:23:01Speaker 04

  That's, that's literally what she would do.

• 1:23:03Speaker 00

  That's crazy.

• 1:23:04Speaker 04

  Oh, by the way, I put the, we're, we're gonna repeat the last chorus with a very special guest on stage and then that's gonna be the second release in theaters you have to go see.

• 1:23:13Speaker 00

  Crazy.

• 1:23:13Speaker 04

  That's some crazy shit.

• 1:23:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, not a fan of that. I, and that is why I'm out on Avengers. You got it. A man's gotta have a code. And that's where I draw the line. So I, as someone who's watched every Avengers up until this point, done.

• 1:23:27Speaker 02

  Pretty good cut scenes, though.

• 1:23:28Speaker 00

  What?

• 1:23:29Speaker 02

  It's pretty good cut scenes.

• 1:23:30Speaker 00

  Hey, are you gonna watch Odyssey?

• 1:23:31Speaker 03

  Never seen a cut scene.

• 1:23:32Speaker 00

  Are you gonna watch Odyssey on TikTok? Cause I'm gonna watch it on my phone.

• 1:23:34Speaker 02

  Uh, yeah, I actually watched the Avengers cut scenes on TikTok.

• 1:23:37Speaker 00

  The whole thing?

• 1:23:38Speaker 02

  Just the two minute.

• 1:23:39Speaker 00

  But are you gonna watch all of the Odyssey on TikTok?

• 1:23:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, probably.

• 1:23:42Speaker 00

  All right.

• 1:23:42Speaker 02

  I watch, I watch all my movies on TikTok.

• 1:23:44Speaker 05

  Yeah, I was telling people that last night. They were like, what do you mean? He watches movies on TikTok? And he's like, I was like, well, you can explain it.

• 1:23:49Speaker 00

  I'm gonna do a review of Odyssey on my phone.

• 1:23:51Speaker 02

  Yeah, there's just accounts that record the movie screen when they go to movies.

• 1:23:55Speaker 00

  That's very illegal.

• 1:23:56Speaker 03

  Super illegal.

• 1:23:57Speaker 02

  It's super illegal. And then I get trapped in a rabbit hole watching it.

• 1:24:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:02Speaker 02

  And I just end up watching an entire movie.

• 1:24:04Speaker 04

  They always put the weirdest filters on those clips, too. I don't know what it is, but you can like, it looks like they A I the movies.

• 1:24:09Speaker 00

  My algorithm has been, uh, just dog shit recently. I've just been getting fed, uh, body cam, like traffic stops, but every single one of them is like part one of 10. And there's, and it's like seven minutes. They're like, you won't believe what happens next. I'm like, I don't, I'm done, I'm out.

• 1:24:26Speaker 04

  That's the trick they do. They, they always say like part one.

• 1:24:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:24:29Speaker 04

  Or part two, and then there's never another part to it.

• 1:24:31Speaker 03

  They give you three part ones, then four days later you get part two of the, the original one you saw.

• 1:24:36Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:24:36Speaker 03

  Impossible task to keep up with.

• 1:24:38Speaker 00

  Right. And they always caption it like, oh, this drug dealer got caught and it's just like part one, they're just, they're doing a routine stop.

• 1:24:45Speaker 02

  Give me the arrest.

• 1:24:45Speaker 00

  Yeah. Give me the arrest. Give me some yelling. Give me some screaming. I wanna watch Cops. Okay. PFT.

• 1:24:51Speaker 04

  Uh, I mean, that was a lot of my hot seats, cool thrones, because we did like every NBA media day storyline. Except for Mark Titus being called, uh, the.

• 1:25:01Speaker 00

  Oh, that's mine.

• 1:25:02Speaker 04

  Basketball player that, that Brad Stevens had ever seen.

• 1:25:05Speaker 00

  I sent it to you, Max.

• 1:25:06Speaker 04

  Which is pretty good, uh, pretty good shout out. You gotta make Mark, you gotta make Brad Stevens compliment you.

• 1:25:11Speaker 00

  So we were talking about the Yak, we'll play the clip. The only, you, you'll, you'll hear it, but Brad Stevens starts talking about what Titus does and he kinda, he kinda ran out of things. And, uh, here, play.

• 1:25:23Speaker 04

  Like everything, yeah.

• 1:25:25Speaker 05

  Sounds crazy. I coached a third grade team in Indiana when I was in college. That was Mike's class and some of his best buddies still to this day. I don't remember if I saw Mike play at that age, but Mike was at Lawrence North. Um, all the way through middle school and high school, which was right down the road from us at Butler. So Mike, uh, I definitely saw Mike in the early 2000s. I might've seen him in the 90s.

• 1:25:47Speaker 07

  We're gonna go with that and we're gonna say that you did see him in the 90s.

• 1:25:49Speaker 05

  Much, much of his team wasn't even alive in the 90s.

• 1:25:50Speaker 07

  Most of it, I would bet you. And then of course you did have Mark Titus on your team, right? In, in third grade.

• 1:25:54Speaker 05

  Mark's so excited that we're talking about this, I'm sure.

• 1:25:56Speaker 07

  He's flipping it right now.

• 1:25:57Speaker 05

  Yeah, that's right.

• 1:25:57Speaker 07

  I'm a big fan of Mark Titus. Uh, do you think that he could lock up Mike Conley in third grade? Was that the matchup for you?

• 1:26:05Speaker 05

  I, I'm sure, Mark, it's been great to see Mark have success and from an author to a podcaster to, um.

• 1:26:18Speaker 00

  We were talking about the Yak, there's, there's really no more depressing thing to be like, from an author to a podcaster. It's like, oh, that person was an actor, now he's a porn star. Like you, you're, when, when you, when you, you're an author and then, uh, well, now he's podcasting. It's like, okay.

• 1:26:36Speaker 04

  Yeah, he went from a chef to a reality star. That's what I'm hearing from him. But I mean, he does it all. On the other hand, he said like Titus is a guy, he's a five tool player. He can write and then he can also talk.

• 1:26:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:26:49Speaker 04

  Which is, uh, kind of the verbal version of writing.

• 1:26:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, that, we really needed, Brad Stevens really needed like one more thing for Titus, because it just. From an author to a podcaster to a.

• 1:27:00Speaker 04

  What do we think about Brad Stevens judgment considering his recent track record?

• 1:27:04Speaker 00

  What do you mean?

• 1:27:06Speaker 04

  Some of the moves that he's made.

• 1:27:07Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:27:08Speaker 03

  Such as?

• 1:27:09Speaker 04

  Such as, uh, trading Jalen Brown.

• 1:27:12Speaker 03

  That was a good move for, you don't, you don't know Cap, that's fine.

• 1:27:15Speaker 04

  Okay.

• 1:27:15Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 1:27:16Speaker 04

  You a Cap guy?

• 1:27:17Speaker 00

  Cap.

• 1:27:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:27:18Speaker 04

  Tell me about it.

• 1:27:19Speaker 00

  You are Cap.

• 1:27:20Speaker 03

  We, if we had, we, we wouldn't have been able to sign anyone. We would have been a, a two-team, two-team, team, two-player team. In the NBA, which you need at least, you know, seven or eight.

• 1:27:29Speaker 04

  You need more than one, more than two players.

• 1:27:31Speaker 02

  Who'd they trade him for?

• 1:27:33Speaker 03

  Some picks.

• 1:27:34Speaker 02

  And.

• 1:27:39Speaker 03

  We traded him to create, oh, for Paul George, for Paul George. One year and then we can get rid of that contract.

• 1:27:46Speaker 04

  Okay, all right. But I mean, I think my point of his, his, uh, evaluation stands. His personnel.

• 1:27:55Speaker 03

  Do you think Brad Stevens is a bad personnel evaluator?

• 1:27:57Speaker 04

  No, I said recent, I said recent.

• 1:28:00Speaker 03

  As a, so one move, so, but like.

• 1:28:02Speaker 04

  That combined with.

• 1:28:03Speaker 03

  Is Brad Stevens a good evaluator and personnel guy? Yes or no?

• 1:28:08Speaker 04

  The last.

• 1:28:09Speaker 03

  Yes or no? It's yes or no?

• 1:28:10Speaker 04

  No, I think there's gray here here, Hank. Cause the last two moves that he's made, one, trading Jalen Brown, two, saying that Mark Titus is the best player he's ever seen.

• 1:28:21Speaker 00

  Max, clarify the question.

• 1:28:22Speaker 02

  Uh, Henry Lockwood, you also said, uh, Jalen Brown, one year, or, uh, Paul George, one year. He also has a player option for 60 million for the next year. Do you think he'll probably take that or no?

• 1:28:32Speaker 03

  No, I don't.

• 1:28:33Speaker 02

  You think he's gonna say no to the $60 million player option?

• 1:28:36Speaker 03

  I do.

• 1:28:39Speaker 02

  I would like to ask the desk, do you think that Paul George will say no to the $60 million player option?

• 1:28:44Speaker 04

  I, I do because I think he's a big team guy and he has a tremendous love for the city of Boston. So I think he'll turn it down for the good of the Celtics.

• 1:28:50Speaker 02

  Yep.

• 1:28:50Speaker 00

  I think you will only turn it down for more money from.

• 1:28:55Speaker 00

  That would be the only case where he would turn it down.

• 1:28:57Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:28:58Speaker 00

  Which is on the table.

• 1:28:59Speaker 04

  We'll see. My other cool throne is gonna be, I'm gonna do the, uh, twisted teas at JMU this weekend.

• 1:29:04Speaker 00

  Oh, hell yeah.

• 1:29:04Speaker 04

  In Harrisonburg and we beat Marshall, which we should, uh, free twisted teas for at least a couple hours at Finnegan's Cove. Sig's inside, uh, go down, drink some twisted teas, enjoy on me.

• 1:29:17Speaker 00

  Uh, all right, my hot seat is, uh, fans of the Carolina Hurricanes because they have started a new, uh, they're, they're banning cursing in the Carolina Hurricanes arena. They're banning cursing.

• 1:29:31Speaker 04

  How?

• 1:29:32Speaker 00

  Fans shall refrain from using abusive language or obscene gestures. Be aware of your language and please avoid profanity around children. Violation of the fan code of conduct may result in eviction from the arena without a ticket refund. If you encounter a security concern and other guests is interfering with. They, they basically said, hey, we're, we're gonna be policing cursing this year, more than we have.

• 1:29:51Speaker 04

  So if, all it takes is somebody reporting you for a cursing.

• 1:29:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, in front of a, in front of a child, they've, they've updated the rules. The Canes have officially banned cursing at the Lenovo Center for the 2026, 27 season. Any fan who curses in front of children will now be evicted from the arena. Cursing has not, no place in the game of hockey.

• 1:30:09Speaker 04

  I'm okay with not cussing in front of kids.

• 1:30:12Speaker 00

  Yeah, I agree with that.

• 1:30:14Speaker 04

  There should be a cuss zone. That's, how about that? How about you have specific segments of the barn where cussing is not only accepted but encouraged. And that's like the rowdy zone. You don't have to wear a shirt.

• 1:30:26Speaker 00

  I think this has.

• 1:30:27Speaker 04

  The beer guy just patrolling the aisle non-stop.

• 1:30:29Speaker 00

  This also can't be a rule for the playoffs. You have to let cursing in the playoffs.

• 1:30:34Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:30:34Speaker 00

  And also like, that's also, come on, we, this might be a little bit of a soft society thing, because kids, kids learn how to curse by being at games.

• 1:30:43Speaker 02

  What about? The players curse all the time.

• 1:30:47Speaker 00

  Yeah, kick them out.

• 1:30:50Speaker 02

  What happens there?

• 1:30:50Speaker 00

  Imagine if you get a five-minute major for cursing?

• 1:30:52Speaker 04

  Report like the entire Carolina, or the, uh, Florida Panthers?

• 1:30:56Speaker 02

  There's kids that are sitting by the, by the glass for sure.

• 1:30:59Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:31:00Speaker 02

  They're gonna hear some cursing.

• 1:31:01Speaker 04

  Probably the better thing to do is just have a kid's section instead of just a, uh, go ahead and cuss section.

• 1:31:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, that would be smart, like a ball pit.

• 1:31:09Speaker 04

  Yeah, have a, have a kid's section and be like, okay, absolutely no cussing unless it's the playoffs and the kid's section.

• 1:31:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, and then my cool throne is, uh, uh, Dan Wilson, the manager for the Mariners. Because he got to do the, uh, very rare, see, very rare, uh, occurrence of announcing his own firing. Did you guys see this?

• 1:31:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:31:32Speaker 00

  I, I assume Dan Wilson told them, hey, I'll just handle it, but boy was that awkward.

• 1:31:38Speaker 04

  I don't think they asked him to do it. I think he might've said.

• 1:31:41Speaker 00

  He said, let me tell.

• 1:31:42Speaker 04

  I'd like, I'd like to be the one.

• 1:31:43Speaker 00

  So he goes to the media, play just the first like 30 seconds. He goes to the media and he's like, this is his postseason. Uh, you know, media availability, talk about the season and then he starts it and then it quickly is like, oh shit, did he just fire himself? And he did. Well, he didn't fire himself, but he announced that he got fired. Go ahead, play it. Get through it hopefully, uh.

• 1:32:07Speaker 00

  This state, uh.

• 1:32:08Speaker 07

  Sorry. Uh, the season has been very difficult and of course the results have not been what any of us have expected. Um, as a result, it's concluded that today is my last day as manager of the Seattle Mariners. I'm still processing this with my family and it's a very difficult day. Um, we love this city. We love this community.

• 1:32:30Speaker 00

  He fired himself.

• 1:32:31Speaker 07

  And we, uh, appreciated the organization.

• 1:32:33Speaker 00

  Now he's his own fired. So awkward. So awkward.

• 1:32:37Speaker 04

  Yeah, it's tough to make your.

• 1:32:39Speaker 00

  But I guess it kind of also.

• 1:32:40Speaker 04

  Was he saying goodbye to the media?

• 1:32:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. It's also kind of.

• 1:32:44Speaker 04

  Baseball is such a weird sport where you, the manager can be the, the person that gets the scapegoat for the team. They gets all the blame and they're probably like, if your bats, if you just don't hit well.

• 1:32:56Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:32:56Speaker 04

  How is that the manager's fault?

• 1:32:59Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, the Marlins were, this was a very disappointing season for them or so the Mariners because they, I mean, they were good last year and they played in a dog shit division that if they had just played a little bit better, they would be in the playoffs.

• 1:33:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:33:11Speaker 00

  All right, Zach finishes off. We probably, this is, Zach has a, a tough job of like just picking at the carcass of hot seat. Oh, the carton's empty, boys. We got a couple.

• 1:33:22Speaker 06

  We're gonna, we can pivot a couple of times here. We're gonna go hot seat, the kids from Penn State, cause it came out, they only made a hundred and twenty thousand dollars.

• 1:33:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:29Speaker 06

  They ruined their lives for a hundred and twenty, split amongst like 14 guys.

• 1:33:33Speaker 04

  You're talking about the coke guys?

• 1:33:34Speaker 06

  Yeah.

• 1:33:34Speaker 03

  That's a lot in college though.

• 1:33:36Speaker 00

  But over, how long, over the course of years, over the course of years, that is not a, they made it seem like these guys were cartel.

• 1:33:45Speaker 06

  And as if like, you take that 120, it's not getting divided evenly. A couple of guys probably got like 30. One of the guys probably got maybe like four grand.

• 1:33:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:33:53Speaker 06

  Ruined his life.

• 1:33:53Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. I thought the internet was, had the same reaction where they're like, that's it. A hundred and twenty. Cause like you, the way they made it seem like these guys were running a very elaborate, uh, cartel cocaine ring that was moving like tons of weight.

• 1:34:12Speaker 06

  They made it seem like these guys took meetings in Columbia.

• 1:34:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. They did. That's like, that's like two years at Penn State.

• 1:34:20Speaker 06

  Yeah, two, yeah.

• 1:34:22Speaker 06

  You covered books and housing for a fifth year?

• 1:34:24Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:34:25Speaker 06

  And then, uh.

• 1:34:26Speaker 04

  You should, they should knock some of the charges off after finding that they didn't really get paid that much.

• 1:34:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, they, no, they should knock it.

• 1:34:32Speaker 06

  Sympathy.

• 1:34:32Speaker 04

  Yes. That's like, you know, we, sorry, we portrayed you to be kingpin type shit. Turns out that your paper's not up. So yeah, we'll knock 50% off.

• 1:34:41Speaker 00

  It's not, it's like, it's almost like, sorry, we embarrassed you.

• 1:34:44Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:34:45Speaker 00

  Cause when the real facts came out, you look like fucking losers.

• 1:34:48Speaker 04

  That, that might be part of the punishment. Like way to discourage kids from doing it in the future.

• 1:34:52Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:34:52Speaker 04

  It's like, they'll make an announcement. They were arrested. They're going to prison. And, uh, then you do one of those photo shoots where the cops put like all the, all the cash that they confiscated and it's like $200 on, in ones.

• 1:35:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:06Speaker 04

  On a, a big ass table. They're like, we got, we got this off the streets. Thank God.

• 1:35:10Speaker 00

  Or they, yeah, they changed the law and it's like, anything under a million is a felony. Anything over a million is a misdemeanor.

• 1:35:20Speaker 04

  So you better get a, yeah, you better, you better get your business right.

• 1:35:24Speaker 00

  If you're gonna do it, do it.

• 1:35:25Speaker 06

  You guys are this bad.

• 1:35:26Speaker 00

  Don't do it, don't do it like this.

• 1:35:27Speaker 04

  Like at least contribute to the local economy.

• 1:35:29Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:35:29Speaker 06

  You guys are embarrassing. You had all the opportunity in the world to get an education. You sucked at selling coke at college.

• 1:35:35Speaker 00

  At college. Yeah.

• 1:35:36Speaker 03

  I feel like Jimmy Tatro is gonna make a great show about this.

• 1:35:39Speaker 00

  Ooh.

• 1:35:40Speaker 04

  Got the, uh, college coke boys?

• 1:35:41Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 1:35:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, he's gotta be the gorilla first, remember?

• 1:35:45Speaker 03

  Right.

• 1:35:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:35:48Speaker 00

  The gorilla.

• 1:35:49Speaker 06

  It's white out season.

• 1:35:50Speaker 00

  There was a kid in the cage, the gorilla.

• 1:35:53Speaker 04

  All right. Uh, your cool term?

• 1:35:55Speaker 06

  Uh, my cool term this week is gonna be Charles Barkley, cause he doubled down. He's on the retirement tours his last year. He said he's stepping away. He's 64. He's gonna enjoy life.

• 1:36:05Speaker 00

  Wait, what?

• 1:36:07Speaker 06

  He's got one more year on the desk. This is last year.

• 1:36:08Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:36:09Speaker 03

  He just says this so he gets paid more money.

• 1:36:11Speaker 06

  This sounded pretty convincing though. This one, he's like, he's like, Ernie said stay a couple more years. He did last year and this year.

• 1:36:18Speaker 00

  I don't believe it.

• 1:36:19Speaker 06

  From public life.

• 1:36:20Speaker 00

  I don't believe it.

• 1:36:22Speaker 06

  It sounded genuine this time.

• 1:36:23Speaker 00

  This, but Charles Barkley has one of those jobs. I mean, we, I count myself as in this camp of like, if he stopped doing what he's doing, he would probably just do it with his friends.

• 1:36:35Speaker 04

  I would be, if I, I would not be surprised if Charles Barkley actually did walk away though.

• 1:36:39Speaker 00

  Oh, man, that would suck.

• 1:36:41Speaker 04

  Because I feel like he just wants to play golf and get drunk.

• 1:36:44Speaker 00

  And he's gonna, it.

• 1:36:45Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:36:46Speaker 03

  Maybe he wants to gamble too.

• 1:36:47Speaker 00

  Draymond?

• 1:36:49Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah.

• 1:36:50Speaker 00

  Is that what it's gonna be?

• 1:36:51Speaker 04

  They're grooming Draymond.

• 1:36:52Speaker 00

  Yeah. Okay. Good job, Zach. Uh, let's get to some college football talk with Stanford Steve. Before we do that, PFT's got a couple of ads.

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• 1:38:46Speaker 00

  Okay. We now welcome on a very, very special guest. It's our guy Stanford Steve in studio. We're lucky enough to have him here to talk some college ball. Steve, you look good by the way.

• 1:38:57Speaker 07

  Trying, trying to get, the goal is to get back to playing weight.

• 1:39:01Speaker 00

  What was playing weight?

• 1:39:02Speaker 07

  Like 250.

• 1:39:03Speaker 00

  And what are you at?

• 1:39:04Speaker 07

  We're just north of 260.

• 1:39:06Speaker 00

  We were actually talking about it. The, uh, the fact that Chet Holm, when his two, he went from 213 to 215 in the off season, gained some weight.

• 1:39:14Speaker 04

  I mean, percentage wise, that's, what is that like 10% body weight?

• 1:39:18Speaker 07

  Yeah. His body fat. Good lord.

• 1:39:20Speaker 00

  Uh, what are you doing?

• 1:39:22Speaker 07

  Just trying to do something every day.

• 1:39:23Speaker 00

  Let's go. I'm doing the same thing.

• 1:39:25Speaker 07

  I mean, your, your summer motivation got me going, but like that gets old real quick. So it's just like, got up early, tried to get a half hour, hour walking the streets this morning.

• 1:39:35Speaker 00

  That's.

• 1:39:36Speaker 07

  Beautiful day.

• 1:39:37Speaker 04

  Steps are big.

• 1:39:37Speaker 00

  That's, that's been my goal is like, I don't, uh, when I get in my head, like, oh, you gotta go out and you gotta work out hard. It's like, no, what, if you have 25 minutes, go walk. That's enough.

• 1:39:48Speaker 07

  Yeah. And, uh, yeah.

• 1:39:50Speaker 00

  And also you said no to the ice cream.

• 1:39:53Speaker 07

  You know what? I forgot. I was, I wa, I was gonna get it on the way out. I didn't, I didn't, I wasn't trying to deter you.

• 1:39:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:39:58Speaker 07

  From that. And I was just kidding you, uh, about the jokes that were being said about it. But yeah, I'll, I'll get some on the way out here.

• 1:40:03Speaker 00

  All right. So yeah, all right. Fair.

• 1:40:05Speaker 07

  Great lunch.

• 1:40:06Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. So college football, week, uh, four, we've just completed. It feels like we are finally, now that teams are playing in the conference, we are finally starting to learn some things. Uh, do you want to go big picture first and like who, who you think is like, what, maybe what's the top four or five, wherever it stops above everyone else?

• 1:40:26Speaker 07

  Yeah. I, well, I think you start with Texas because they have the two best wins. But are they the best team? I, I still, I just want to see more. Like I wa, like I expected coming into this year that we were gonna get the second half of the A and M game last, last year from Arch every game. And you know, with this idea of NIL and, and transfer portal and the lack of continuity, what I've really looked at and being at the, a bunch of these games, I thought it was a big spot for Texas. I thought Ole Miss was in the same spot. The first time an offensive line goes on the road.

• 1:41:03Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:41:04Speaker 07

  Because you could say, you know, you know, Lane LSU the week before, you know, Lane system is as buttoned up as, as there is, like as far as, you know, uh, being averse to sound like, you know, crowds going, all right, hey, we gotta make sure we're all on the same page here. All right. Don't worry. We got hand signals, whatever it is. Like they are, they're noise proof and that it wasn't good. And offensive line, still the great ones, you need continuity. Those guys are going to get ice cream together. There might be pulling out their books if they're studying together. Like it's just time. You need to know each other. It's a lot like, you know, what you do, you guys do.

• 1:41:38Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:41:38Speaker 07

  You know, you go, you guys talked about it. Like go back to the first year of your podcast.

• 1:41:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:41:43Speaker 07

  But you, you just learn each other and, and in that, when it's crowd noise, other guys that are complete animals lined up against you and it's that fast, like you need reps of that. And the lack of two days now, like offensive line is far behind. So I looked at Texas. I just want, like they, they spent plenty of money. Gooseby's gonna be a top pick. They got Sione from, uh, Wake Forest who's, who's been good. You just want to see more and it, it's just consistency.

• 1:42:08Speaker 00

  Yeah. Their offense just hasn't looked, uh, clean.

• 1:42:11Speaker 07

  No.

• 1:42:11Speaker 00

  At all.

• 1:42:12Speaker 04

  Would you trust Arch to put together a game winning drive in, in a big moment, like in a playoff environment right now? Because I'm not sure that I would.

• 1:42:19Speaker 07

  I, I think it's a bigger picture deal with that. Cause the first thing on that is he gonna get protected?

• 1:42:24Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:42:25Speaker 07

  You know, uh, you know, what's the defense look like? You know, everybody's just go, oh, backyard football, you know, let him go. Look what he does. Yeah. Like I believe last week at Tennessee was the first time they went up seven, nothing in a start. And I had fun all week, uh, when I started looking back and I was like, you know, Arch hasn't won a true road game in regulation.

• 1:42:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:42:45Speaker 07

  And last week was the first time. People were like, Oklahoma's a road game because it's 50. I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. True road game. And people ran with that, but I was just having fun because it was a talking point. But when I looked at it, I'm like, kind of got, you know, taken it, taken to school, Georgia, Florida, Ohio State on the road, you know, come back and win against Mississippi State and Kentucky in overtime. And those are the wins. So I thought it was just a game where you just got to go win it. Like Neyland's really, really good. Tough place to play. Tennessee had nothing to lose. You had a young quarterback. Go there and win no matter how it looks, but watching the tape back, you're like, gotta button it up a little bit more because they're, they're playing with fire at the end of these games.

• 1:43:25Speaker 00

  And they should have won by, I mean, Tennessee, you know, they get the punt return. They couldn't do anything offensively.

• 1:43:30Speaker 07

  Nothing, nothing. Sportsman like penalties.

• 1:43:33Speaker 00

  Texas had what 10 sacks, I think?

• 1:43:35Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:43:35Speaker 00

  It was insane.

• 1:43:36Speaker 07

  Simmons had five, 10 sacks. And then they almost got to 150 yards of penalties.

• 1:43:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:43:42Speaker 07

  That's hard to do.

• 1:43:43Speaker 04

  How do you have two guys that do something illegal, simulating a penis motion? The first guy, okay, boys will be boys.

• 1:43:51Speaker 00

  And also Simmons should get a pass because he's got five sacks.

• 1:43:53Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah. You pretend to take a leak on the ground.

• 1:43:55Speaker 07

  I thought it was, I thought it was a garden hose.

• 1:43:58Speaker 04

  I get it. He's watering the grass. But then the other guy.

• 1:44:01Speaker 07

  There was a lot there.

• 1:44:02Speaker 04

  Wiping the taint, smelling the hand and passing out all in the same motion.

• 1:44:06Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:44:06Speaker 07

  While falling.

• 1:44:07Speaker 04

  While falling. It was actually, it was very funny. But I feel like I heard Sark like talking to media after the game and he's.

• 1:44:15Speaker 00

  He's so weird.

• 1:44:16Speaker 04

  His blame was like on the media, on the world as, as a whole. This is a societal problem that we have two guys that are whipping their dicks out in simulation on the field in, in a big conference game.

• 1:44:27Speaker 07

  I did look at that post game because knowing he's going to be asked about it and he could have been a prick. Like, like if that's Saban backing it, like that dude.

• 1:44:37Speaker 00

  He would have been, yeah.

• 1:44:38Speaker 07

  And Sark took the high road. So I, you know, players, coach, like this whole, you know, what are you labeled as and this and that? I thought that was a chance for Sark to put his foot down, but he didn't. So.

• 1:44:49Speaker 00

  So then we could expect more of it. Yeah. I did also like that Chris Fowler was like, that's the most vulgar thing I've seen. I, I feel like you could see a lot more vulgar things.

• 1:44:59Speaker 07

  Yeah. I wouldn't want to test guys.

• 1:45:01Speaker 00

  No, I mean, right. Like if that's a challenge, seeing a guy piss is, that's not as vulgar as like, what if, what if we just simulate titty fucking? What if we just do, you know, what if, what if he gets a sack and he just starts butt fucking the quarterback?

• 1:45:15Speaker 04

  I know he's your colleague, but like we've seen Herb Street's dog take an actual piss on the field.

• 1:45:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:45:21Speaker 04

  And, and Peter was allowed to stay in.

• 1:45:24Speaker 07

  Like on the kickoff, pregame, because it's pregame. There's, I mean, you could say that.

• 1:45:29Speaker 04

  It was the, um, go ahead.

• 1:45:31Speaker 07

  I was just going to say, moving forward in celebrations, did you see what LSU did to the yell leaders?

• 1:45:36Speaker 00

  Yes. Awesome.

• 1:45:37Speaker 07

  Right.

• 1:45:38Speaker 00

  They did, they did, they mimicked the Texas A&M yell leaders right in their face. It was awesome after a turnover.

• 1:45:44Speaker 07

  And that's one where A&M people are just so irate because you know, you know, we have other things at our school and we just.

• 1:45:51Speaker 00

  We're not weird. We just wear our rings everywhere.

• 1:45:53Speaker 07

  We just continue to show the yell leaders. That drives them nuts.

• 1:45:57Speaker 04

  And I got a shotgun for you. Yeah. I love, I love watching those videos. They're so funny. With the, um.

• 1:46:03Speaker 07

  I still can't get one. I'm in person. Like I try mimic, like I don't understand it.

• 1:46:07Speaker 00

  No, no, nobody does.

• 1:46:08Speaker 07

  It's like a code.

• 1:46:08Speaker 00

  No.

• 1:46:09Speaker 04

  Nobody does. In the, in the big picture, obviously like, you know, the refs have to take control of the game.

• 1:46:14Speaker 00

  Oh, breaking news.

• 1:46:15Speaker 07

  Breaking news.

• 1:46:18Speaker 00

  This is going to be appropriate for Wednesday's show?

• 1:46:20Speaker 07

  Well, yeah. I mean, we're going to talk about it a lot tomorrow.

• 1:46:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:46:24Speaker 07

  J.J. McCarthy.

• 1:46:25Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:46:26Speaker 00

  Traded?

• 1:46:26Speaker 07

  New York Giant.

• 1:46:27Speaker 00

  Oh, it happened. That's a good trade.

• 1:46:31Speaker 07

  You guys brought that into existence.

• 1:46:32Speaker 00

  Well, no, we didn't. I, there was.

• 1:46:35Speaker 07

  I know you guys don't get in the news breaking stuff, but.

• 1:46:37Speaker 00

  No, it was, I, I, we did talk about it, but it was someone else tweeted about it. I think I, did I credit them? I can't remember, but they should have, no, you know, we were talking about it because someone said, what would make sense is the Giants trading for J.J. McCarthy?

• 1:46:52Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 1:46:53Speaker 00

  And then Emmanuel Acho being like the dumbest person alive was like, oh, you know, it makes sense. The Giants trading for who'd he say they should trade for?

• 1:47:02Speaker 04

  Was it Mac Jones?

• 1:47:03Speaker 00

  Oh, Mac Jones. Yeah. We're like, dude, no, that's totally different scenario. The 49ers need to keep Mac Jones. They should have a good backup. They get hurt every two seconds. The guy who said J.J. McCarthy makes, it makes perfect sense. Basically, no, either he's good and you, and you save your season or he's bad and you, and you tank and you get another pick.

• 1:47:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:47:22Speaker 00

  So, smart.

• 1:47:24Speaker 04

  The Harbaughs, they just love sharing players. They do.

• 1:47:27Speaker 00

  Do you think?

• 1:47:28Speaker 07

  And coaches.

• 1:47:29Speaker 04

  And coaches too. Each one needs like a letter of recommendation for every, every new player that they sign or every trade that they make or like a free agent in the offseason. It's like, I, real quick, I just need my brother to vouch.

• 1:47:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, this is ours. They, when they get a player, they're like, this is, we own.

• 1:47:42Speaker 07

  Hold on, let me text.

• 1:47:43Speaker 00

  Yeah. Do you, do you think this is going to work out? Where did you have J.J. McCarthy? After watching him at Michigan, like.

• 1:47:50Speaker 07

  Better than this.

• 1:47:51Speaker 00

  Yeah. So do you think there's something in there that he could maybe tap into?

• 1:47:55Speaker 07

  Yes. Um, now, when you, I mean, I was here last year for that game where he couldn't do a thing. And then the fourth quarter, they win the game. Was that a missed field goal?

• 1:48:04Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, that was a bad one. That was, that was pretty much rock bottom for.

• 1:48:08Speaker 07

  Week one.

• 1:48:09Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:09Speaker 07

  Because it was like same old, same old.

• 1:48:10Speaker 00

  And it was, oh no, they got a guy in J.J. McCarthy because he played really well in the second half.

• 1:48:14Speaker 07

  Fifth round. Fifth round.

• 1:48:16Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:17Speaker 07

  And he was top 10?

• 1:48:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:48:20Speaker 04

  Right around 10.

• 1:48:21Speaker 00

  No, Penix was 12 maybe?

• 1:48:23Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 1:48:23Speaker 00

  I think, I think, I think McCarthy was, yeah, like.

• 1:48:25Speaker 07

  Lottery.

• 1:48:26Speaker 00

  Yeah. He was the lottery for sure. He was a lottery pick.

• 1:48:31Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, it's got to be in there somewhere, maybe.

• 1:48:34Speaker 07

  I would think, uh, knowing Greg Roman's there, Mike Bloomgren, old, like old school Harbaugh guys, like going back to the Stanford staff, uh, I know the terminology and what they want to do in the run game. Uh, you know, Big Cat, I made the joke to you yesterday. Like every time we looked over at the Giants game, Scataboo was getting it. Like, I just wonder how much he could take.

• 1:48:54Speaker 00

  The stat was that he had 60 yards rushing, 74 yards after contact.

• 1:48:59Speaker 07

  That.

• 1:49:00Speaker 00

  Doesn't make sense.

• 1:49:00Speaker 07

  I don't care who you are. That's not going to last in the NFL.

• 1:49:03Speaker 04

  Yeah. This, I mean, it could be interesting if J.J.'s, if he's good, what that means going forward.

• 1:49:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, he has some similar skill sets. Like they can run the Jackson Dart offense with some of the RPOs and him running. Like they should use that.

• 1:49:16Speaker 07

  That, that's what I thought I would see more with the Vikings. Like you, you get a guy like that. It's like, all right, you look at third down conversion, like all the best third down conversion guys are the guys that could use their feet.

• 1:49:26Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:49:26Speaker 07

  You know, and he just, there's something, something got locked and they need to unlock it. That's the, that's the way I look at it. But he's still got to beat out Jameis. Jameis is coming off a win.

• 1:49:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:49:36Speaker 04

  That's true.

• 1:49:36Speaker 00

  Jameis did.

• 1:49:37Speaker 04

  He did what he had to do.

• 1:49:38Speaker 00

  Did exactly what he had to do. All right. Back to college football.

• 1:49:40Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:49:41Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. So we talked Texas. Who are your top five teams right now?

• 1:49:45Speaker 07

  Oh, I knew you were going to ask me this.

• 1:49:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. And you got to answer.

• 1:49:51Speaker 07

  Texas.

• 1:49:52Speaker 00

  Georgia.

• 1:49:53Speaker 07

  Miami.

• 1:49:54Speaker 00

  Georgia.

• 1:49:54Speaker 07

  Georgia. Uh, it's going to be tough because I don't think I could.

• 1:50:00Speaker 00

  Um, Georgia's not getting talked enough about. I think.

• 1:50:03Speaker 07

  That's fine. They love it.

• 1:50:04Speaker 00

  Yeah, I know.

• 1:50:04Speaker 07

  They love that.

• 1:50:05Speaker 00

  But they're just wasting people.

• 1:50:06Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:50:07Speaker 00

  Non-competitive SEC games.

• 1:50:09Speaker 04

  You're going to leave them out?

• 1:50:12Speaker 07

  JMU?

• 1:50:12Speaker 04

  No. Well, yeah. Thanks for bringing that. Good point. No, I'm talking about JMU Central. J, JMIU.

• 1:50:19Speaker 07

  Indiana?

• 1:50:19Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:50:20Speaker 07

  They're, that, they're on the cusp.

• 1:50:22Speaker 00

  They're struggling.

• 1:50:23Speaker 04

  Which is, I actually think that's fair. Before the season.

• 1:50:25Speaker 07

  Correct. I, I had them too.

• 1:50:27Speaker 04

  Right.

• 1:50:27Speaker 07

  Preseason, Notre Dame.

• 1:50:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:29Speaker 07

  Uh, so jumble those up.

• 1:50:31Speaker 00

  Ohio State, Oregon, right on the outside.

• 1:50:33Speaker 07

  Ohio State's there with a big spot.

• 1:50:36Speaker 00

  Indiana, is it, is it actually, because like that?

• 1:50:38Speaker 07

  I think you have to have Ohio State ahead of Indiana. Right?

• 1:50:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:50:43Speaker 04

  I would say so. But Indiana hasn't, they, they might start just steamrolling people again.

• 1:50:47Speaker 00

  Correct.

• 1:50:48Speaker 04

  But they haven't looked good.

• 1:50:49Speaker 07

  And that's the thing. It's no.

• 1:50:50Speaker 04

  They haven't looked as good as what we expect.

• 1:50:52Speaker 00

  Turbo. I don't know how long he's going to be.

• 1:50:54Speaker 07

  That didn't look good.

• 1:50:54Speaker 00

  That's bad.

• 1:50:55Speaker 07

  Um, but yeah, I mean, you see in that offense, the difference in quarterback.

• 1:51:00Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:51:01Speaker 07

  Like Hoover just had, like, somebody had the stat, uh, off target, 20% of his throws.

• 1:51:06Speaker 00

  Yeah. He just misses throws.

• 1:51:07Speaker 07

  But he still was like 20, I mean, it still was fine. Uh, I still think their receivers are elite. Um, and the offensive line was getting there, but I thought Chip did a really good job in the second half of getting Charles on the move. Like he was a sitting duck there. So we'll see. He's got to go play Shiana.

• 1:51:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:24Speaker 07

  Uh, this week. Is that Friday night or no? No.

• 1:51:26Speaker 00

  Uh, no, Northwestern Penn State's a Friday night.

• 1:51:28Speaker 07

  Tonight game. No, it's sun.

• 1:51:29Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:29Speaker 07

  I know that.

• 1:51:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:30Speaker 07

  Uh, but Indiana's right. I mean, they're right there. But the, the, the biggest, um, not issue, but I don't mind when people move up and down weekly.

• 1:51:40Speaker 00

  Mm-hmm.

• 1:51:40Speaker 07

  Like be reactionary. Like, like I kept saying, you're getting offensive lines on the road for the first time. Now, Ohio State gets their second crazy, tough environment this week, going to Iowa after playing in Texas. Like they're going to be more buttoned up. Uh, you know, and how Iowa would just beat Michigan.

• 1:51:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:51:58Speaker 07

  Like I think, I think Ohio State will be focused.

• 1:52:00Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:52:01Speaker 07

  Coming in.

• 1:52:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:52:02Speaker 07

  So I, I think it's, it's those things. Miami, uh, going to Clemson, we'll get to see them. I don't count Stanford as a true road game. No offense. Uh, but that, that's a be an environment that I want to see Miami in.

• 1:52:13Speaker 00

  Is Florida considered, if we're going reactionary, they should be top five? That was an impressive, impressive game.

• 1:52:20Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 1:52:20Speaker 00

  But back to back, really? Because the Auburn game, they dominated that game. I know, looked a little closer in the end.

• 1:52:25Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:52:26Speaker 00

  They dominated that game. And then Ole Miss, I know the spot was brutal for Ole Miss, but the way Florida runs the ball, I think their offense, like it just runs so well. And it just feels like they got that juice to them that they're, they're going to be like a real team here. I know they have a tough schedule, but that, that was an Iowa opening, oh shit, back to back Auburn, Ole Miss, no problem with either.

• 1:52:49Speaker 07

  But I also look at it as, remember, uh, remember Paul Johnson, Navy, Georgia Southern option? And he got the, he got the job at Georgia Tech. It was like, wait till you see what he does with, you know, four stars.

• 1:53:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:01Speaker 07

  I think that's what you're seeing with Buster Faulkner's offense.

• 1:53:03Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:53:03Speaker 07

  Like being at Georgia Tech, like he did all this stuff. Haynes King was a, you know, human bowling ball in the offense, but now he's got weapons and the offensive lines come together. Uh, Summerall is awesome. He's an absolute maniac. He's a great dude. Uh, you guys should definitely have him on. He's that.

• 1:53:20Speaker 00

  We actually have it scheduled for next week.

• 1:53:21Speaker 07

  Oh, perfect.

• 1:53:22Speaker 00

  We're going to have him this week. We bumped, we bumped him for you.

• 1:53:25Speaker 07

  Uh, don't, don't tell him that. Don't tell.

• 1:53:27Speaker 00

  I mean, you just.

• 1:53:28Speaker 04

  No, he'll be thankful.

• 1:53:29Speaker 07

  He's got a tricky spot now going to Missouri.

• 1:53:32Speaker 00

  Well, that's why, partly why I wanted to, to, to wait a week is like, go win that game and then.

• 1:53:37Speaker 07

  Correct.

• 1:53:38Speaker 00

  Then it's like, okay, yeah.

• 1:53:40Speaker 07

  Maybe, maybe they're number one.

• 1:53:41Speaker 00

  Maybe they're number one.

• 1:53:43Speaker 04

  Speaking of Jordan's act, did you see Brent Key at his press conference?

• 1:53:48Speaker 07

  I went to bed.

• 1:53:49Speaker 04

  He was taking notes during his press conference when, when people.

• 1:53:52Speaker 07

  Oh, I like that.

• 1:53:53Speaker 04

  Well.

• 1:53:54Speaker 07

  Did you see his quarterback's last play?

• 1:53:55Speaker 04

  But then you zoom in on the notes that he's taking and he's, he's not actually writing anything. He's pretending to write during the press conference as like a, distraction technique for him to not.

• 1:54:05Speaker 07

  Maybe it was a to do list on that flight home because that's a long ass flight home after losing to Stanford.

• 1:54:10Speaker 04

  It is, but you, you actually drove him insane where he's like taking pretend notes and not writing a single word on a piece of paper. It's like mimicking it. That's, you gotta, you gotta take your wins.

• 1:54:21Speaker 07

  Getting into coach's head.

• 1:54:22Speaker 04

  Yes.

• 1:54:22Speaker 07

  Stanford students, first game out, you know, after school started. So maybe they got in his head.

• 1:54:25Speaker 00

  Why do you start so late?

• 1:54:27Speaker 07

  Quarters, I think it's called.

• 1:54:28Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 1:54:29Speaker 07

  Yeah. October. Actually, this is early. I remember starting October 1st.

• 1:54:33Speaker 04

  That's rough.

• 1:54:33Speaker 07

  Just all ball for two months.

• 1:54:35Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 1:54:35Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 1:54:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 1:54:37Speaker 00

  That's.

• 1:54:37Speaker 07

  That's how you build continuity.

• 1:54:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Uh, speaking of out West, Oregon.

• 1:54:44Speaker 00

  I mean, USC has an Oregon problem. They just kind of eat their lunch every time they, they play. USC is a whole other situation where it's like, it's the same shit every year.

• 1:54:52Speaker 07

  Every year. I bought in last week and I'm done.

• 1:54:54Speaker 00

  Their, their, their offense is always going to be explosive. Their defense is always not going to be able to get stops. I'm just sick of like being told that this is the year that Lincoln Riley is going to turn the corner. It's not going to happen. Okay. But Oregon, how much of Oregon, and, and we'll see what Dante Moore happens because that was a brutal hit. I'm starting to believe and buy into Oregon, that Oklahoma State game. They literally did have all their plays. Oklahoma State had all of Oregon's plays. And I'm not saying like a spy gateway, but they were, we saw the, the tape after. They had every single tell on Dante Moore. They were stuffing every single run. So how much of that Oregon, Oklahoma, how much that Oklahoma State loss can we kind of throw out and be like,

• 1:55:34Speaker 00

  yeah, Oklahoma State stopped them at an insane level because they knew exactly what was coming every time they came.

• 1:55:40Speaker 07

  And it's a lot.

• 1:55:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:55:42Speaker 07

  If I could tell you is if it's run or pass, you're going to do all right.

• 1:55:45Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:55:45Speaker 07

  You're going to do all right.

• 1:55:46Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:55:46Speaker 07

  And that's what, that's what we got there. Listen, I, a couple of things on Oregon.

• 1:55:52Speaker 07

  I was really impressed because this is a tough spot. We talked about with Saban all the time. Like it doesn't even get talked about how many coordinators and coaches went through Alabama in Saban's tenure.

• 1:56:02Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:56:02Speaker 07

  Like that is big time stuff and, and trying to adjust and bringing in guys. And it's like, all right, yeah, here. So Lanning had that his first time. This offseason, didn't interview anyone outside like that's Oregon, man. Like look at the two guys that he brought in. Kenny Dillingham's doing a good job at Arizona State. Will Stein, we see what he's done at Kentucky. Tosh has been an unbelievable recruiter. And he leaves and goes to Cal. So I looked at that as, like I had Oregon below Indiana, Ohio State in the big 10. Because this was the first time, it's a big deal replacing both coordinators. I think Larry Coker is the last guy to win a national title. Having to replace both coordinators. So as a young head coach, and I still consider Lanning a, a young guy, that was a big spot.

• 1:56:45Speaker 07

  But then you fast forward to that and how humbling that could be flying home from Stillwater, knowing that they were in your, they were in your bag.

• 1:56:53Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:56:53Speaker 07

  And you have all the expectations of Dante Moore. And now you go to USC who, you know, looked improved. And you go there and you take it to them. And what makes Oregon, and I think there's maybe a couple of schools that you could put them in there. Maybe a Texas, maybe Ohio State. They got the money to pay a guy to sit on the bench. It's a five star former quarterback.

• 1:57:14Speaker 00

  He was awesome.

• 1:57:14Speaker 07

  He did it with Dante Moore behind Dylan Gabriel.

• 1:57:17Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 1:57:17Speaker 07

  And that's where I think you, I mean, they didn't lose a beat.

• 1:57:20Speaker 00

  It's true. There's not, no other teams can have that depth.

• 1:57:23Speaker 07

  No. And you look at, at what, you know, other schools are supposedly paying, like Florida State, they misjudged the whole quarterback market. And they had to take Ashton Daniel, who's, who was six and 21, I believe, coming into the year as a starter.

• 1:57:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:36Speaker 07

  You know, Stanford, Auburn, and now he's, you know, Florida State, like you can't strike out there. And Oregon just backs up the truck and doubles up the room.

• 1:57:45Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:57:45Speaker 07

  And they're like, all right, well, we got a good quarterback room. Like we're going to be all right there. At some point, we're going to need it. And sure, in the biggest spot of the season, like had to have it moment, or else they get two losses. Their, their season is back all the way up against the wall with road trips to believe I, uh, Columbus and Seattle, maybe.

• 1:58:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:01Speaker 07

  But still, I mean, huge, all the respect to Dan Lanning, like that was a big time, big time deal. No one, you had to have it. You lose a quarterback, still up against it and, and getting the job done and win by two touchdowns. That was really impressive.

• 1:58:14Speaker 04

  Yeah. That loss to Oklahoma State might be like actually sneaky good for him.

• 1:58:19Speaker 00

  Well, they at least got the, got out that their tells are out.

• 1:58:22Speaker 04

  Yeah. It got that out. And also it allowed Dan Lanning to tap into like his, his inner psychopath. To be like, hey, we're going to fix this fucking thing right now.

• 1:58:29Speaker 07

  Correct. And I think, you know, being in Oxford a couple of weeks ago, and then being in, in, or being in Oxford and then being in Knoxville, like you talk to the SCC fans, it's like, uh, you know, what happens if we lose? What, I don't like, the biggest, I think, deal is push all your losses is back as far as possible.

• 1:58:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:58:51Speaker 07

  You know, like Ole Miss had to have it against LSU. And I'm like, all right, this was the game you had to look at. Knowing what Florida was going to be, but now you got your bye week. Like I think Ole Miss is at perfect timing for a bye week.

• 1:59:02Speaker 00

  Right.

• 1:59:03Speaker 07

  Because you don't have Lacy, you give him another week. He's the, he's the key. I get Trinidad is awesome, but he's an absolute homerun hitter. You don't have that going on the road. You need all your homerun hitters on offense, especially when you go on the road. So for Ole Miss, knowing you still have Georgia, you still have Texas, like let's assess things. The defense hasn't been great. The defensive line got shredded last week, but Florida's doing that to everybody. I think it's a big self-coach. I mean, Pete Golding's never had a bye week. As a head coach.

• 1:59:30Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:59:31Speaker 07

  So, you know, you learn stuff as you go, but I thought getting that LSU win was monstrous. And, you know, you, you still have opportunities to get big time wins. You got the, the best playmaker in the country at quarterback. So, uh, I think it's important timing here for, for Ole Miss.

• 1:59:45Speaker 04

  I, I would say like the two best playmakers in the country at quarterback are both in Mississippi. So Camario Taylor at Mississippi State. Uh, now the schedule is going to get interesting for him because they're, they get absolutely fucked by the schedule makers. They have Alabama at home, then they go to LSU, then they go to Oklahoma, and then they've, they go to Texas after that. So that four game stretch. And he is, I think he's the most exciting quarterback in the country. He's so much fun to watch.

• 2:00:09Speaker 07

  Camario.

• 2:00:10Speaker 04

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:00:10Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 2:00:11Speaker 04

  Seems like a great dude.

• 2:00:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:00:12Speaker 04

  And also me and Big Cat agreed last week, uh, we need to just like punch anyone who starts discussing Camaro Taylor by saying, I wonder where he's going to play next year. Because I don't think he's going to play anywhere. I think he's going to stay at Mississippi State. He loves it.

• 2:00:25Speaker 07

  I mean, how many college quarterbacks grew up Mississippi State fans? No, no offense.

• 2:00:29Speaker 04

  Yeah, right.

• 2:00:30Speaker 07

  He did.

• 2:00:31Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:31Speaker 07

  I think he said Nick Fitzgerald was his favorite quarterback. Which is pretty funny because everybody would assume Dak or, you know, something like that. Um, but no, it's, it's an awesome story. I look at the quarterback on the other side this week.

• 2:00:42Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:43Speaker 07

  PFT.

• 2:00:43Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:00:43Speaker 07

  Like Bama is the team that I look at that has gotten better and better.

• 2:00:48Speaker 00

  Roll.

• 2:00:49Speaker 07

  Every single week. And that Kentucky win coming back, I think at the end of the season, that's going to be a very, very good win.

• 2:00:55Speaker 00

  Kentucky's good.

• 2:00:56Speaker 07

  I know. They're, they're legit.

• 2:00:58Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:00:58Speaker 07

  Uh, so a lot of pressure. Uh, I'm sure Brandon has the numbers on Bama and Mississippi State. It's not great. But I say it all the time. All you can ask for is an opportunity and Mississippi State has that opportunity against that team with everything you want. Uh, I'm really happy for Jeff Lebby, man. Like he's, you know, I think it was Netflix or, uh, one of those shows where they did the all access and he loses the Egg Bowl and they have the cameras in the locker room after, and it says, gutting a locker room as possible. But his message was when we flip this switch, it's coming, it's coming. And, uh, really cool to see that, like how they, every Mississippi State has to do it. We just talked about Oregon. Mississippi State can't do it that way.

• 2:01:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:01:41Speaker 07

  They have to do it their own way. And I think that's, it says a lot about Lebby and the belief they've had, what he's brought in as coaches. I think he has four former head coaches on his staff, which you, you want going through an SCC slate, you know? So it, big time spot for Mississippi State. I can't wait.

• 2:01:56Speaker 04

  You think they can win two of those next four games?

• 2:01:58Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 2:01:58Speaker 04

  Is that possible?

• 2:01:59Speaker 07

  Yes. Uh, I think he, you have a chance. I mean, I just said Bama's getting better every week. Camario has gotten better every, like, I thought he was great against Minnesota, getting a huge lead on the road. Whatever. Second half, you take care of business. Uh, they come back, they get another win at South Carolina, you're down 16, nothing. And then last week had to have it. I mean, a couple of those throws were big time, uh, throws. So yes, I believe he's, he's, he's, he's capable. I mean, look at, who would you rather have in the court, at the quarterback position in those matchups? You know?

• 2:02:32Speaker 04

  Yeah. Camario.

• 2:02:33Speaker 07

  Yeah. So he gives them a shot, man. It's super exciting. Uh, happy for Starkville.

• 2:02:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, Notre Dame question for you.

• 2:02:41Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:02:41Speaker 00

  They don't play anyone. They have Miami. Miami will be the test.

• 2:02:44Speaker 07

  That's, yeah. I, I think you put Notre Dame and Miami in the same line till they play.

• 2:02:51Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:02:51Speaker 07

  Like I, I wanted to do a thing like compiling the score of their games and what, how much, how big of a favorite they were. It's identical. Every week they're 20 plus point favorites.

• 2:03:01Speaker 00

  Even more sometimes.

• 2:03:02Speaker 07

  Notre Dame's going to North Carolina this week, who's been a good, good, good start to the season. Improved team, 21 and a half.

• 2:03:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:03:08Speaker 07

  Like nothing. Miami's going to Clemson. I think it's 17 and a half.

• 2:03:12Speaker 04

  I kind of like UNC in that game now that you said that 21 and a half.

• 2:03:15Speaker 07

  Really?

• 2:03:16Speaker 00

  So here's my question about Notre Dame.

• 2:03:17Speaker 07

  Go ahead. Sorry.

• 2:03:19Speaker 00

  Can they run the ball? Cause they have not been able to like, it, it's not that, you know, they, they killed Rice. They killed Purdue. Shout out Purdue for still fighting and getting us that over. That was insane. You never get those where Purdue was running tempo. Down like 50 points with 10 seconds left. Uh, but they, tho- those type of teams, when Notre Dame plays them, they should be running for eight yards a carry. And they've been running for three yards a carry or four yards a carry. So is that a concern where it's like, hey, Notre Dame, CJ Carr, I think he's an absolute stud.

• 2:03:53Speaker 07

  Me too.

• 2:03:53Speaker 00

  I love, I, I love Marcus Freeman. I think he's an awesome coach. The message is very clear. Leave no doubt. They, they keep talking about that. You got to finish every game.

• 2:04:03Speaker 00

  Losing Jerry and Price to Jeremiah Love, like that's significant. And now, and when you get, you won't even know that how significant it is, unfortunately, until maybe the playoff. And then you're like, oh shit, that was kind of a pretty nice thing to have two first round running backs.

• 2:04:17Speaker 07

  And I think I told you guys, like at, before the season, at Notre Dame, at LSU, Ohio State, I'm not going to worry about the depth of the running back position.

• 2:04:28Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:04:29Speaker 07

  But with Notre Dame, I still don't worry about it. I still think they have depth. I look at that O line having continuity, but also they have, look at the tight ends they've gone through. And they got youth there now. And I, you need reps, man.

• 2:04:44Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:04:44Speaker 07

  You gotta, you gotta go.

• 2:04:45Speaker 00

  Turn the corner.

• 2:04:46Speaker 07

  You need, like Florida has been unbelievable. Alabama in the run, like you talk about teams that can run the football, because that's another dying breed.

• 2:04:54Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:04:55Speaker 07

  Of, of offense coordinators being stubborn enough to keep trying to run the football. Notre Dame will get there, but to your point, because of the competition they play. I mean, it is all hands on deck, November 7th. I mean, look at that slate of college football games. I would still bet we're going to be in South Penn for college game day because Miami's coming, but the games across the country are incredible that day. But to your point with Notre Dame, I'm going to have them with there with Miami until they play. I'm not worried. Like again, I'm not just because I'm here. I texted you this Saturday night and going into that game, I believe Wisconsin's defense is in the upper tier, maybe the top tier of the Big 10.

• 2:05:33Speaker 00

  I agree.

• 2:05:33Speaker 07

  And what impressed me against Notre Dame or Notre Dame against Wisconsin, it was at Lambeau, crazy environment, awesome, awesome setup. But I mean, Wisconsin guys are flying all over the place and CJ Carr just settled down, to his point, without a run game and said, all right, let me take some, some easy throws here. And you know, first down, five yard hitch. All right, now it's second and five. It's not freaking second and 17. So I think you're going to see the evolution of CJ, get his team in the right play. And I trust Denbrock, the office coordinator, as much as any office coordinator in the country. They'll get it figured out. I am not, I'm not worried about Notre Dame. I think that Wisconsin defense, we're going to hear a lot from.

• 2:06:14Speaker 00

  Yeah. How much should the Dave Portnoy's of the world be panicking about Michigan?

• 2:06:19Speaker 07

  You know, watching.

• 2:06:21Speaker 00

  Bryce Underwood.

• 2:06:22Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 2:06:22Speaker 00

  Every single dollar.

• 2:06:23Speaker 07

  And a lot of Michigan people want to talk about Ohio State and how much they spent.

• 2:06:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:06:28Speaker 07

  Right? Like it's just never stops between those two schools. Uh, it sucks because that might've been Bryce's best game.

• 2:06:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. He was playing really well.

• 2:06:39Speaker 07

  I was, I was flying. So I had Florida, Ole Miss on the iPad and I was checking the stats and I checked the stats at halftime. And I think it was Michigan 291 yards of offense, Iowa 81.

• 2:06:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, Iowa was, I mean, Iowa didn't, he couldn't run the ball.

• 2:06:53Speaker 07

  I'm like.

• 2:06:53Speaker 00

  Like they.

• 2:06:54Speaker 02

  Iowa game winning drive. How long was that drive?

• 2:06:56Speaker 00

  It was like 91 yards.

• 2:06:57Speaker 02

  Crazy. And Iowa did that.

• 2:06:59Speaker 07

  In a minute 16, I think.

• 2:07:01Speaker 02

  That's gotta be like, at one, one point you look at, at Iowa and the entire program and you're proud of them for pulling that win off. On the other hand, you're like, where, where the fuck has that been? Like for the last, I don't know, 25 years, the ability to do that. I mean, they're glad that it happened, but I don't know. I would be, I would be panicking a little bit if I was Michigan. It's about the future.

• 2:07:20Speaker 00

  Bryce did, I actually too, because I've been very critical of him.

• 2:07:22Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 2:07:22Speaker 00

  In the middle of the game, I was like, Bryce is playing great today. He was. And it wasn't just his legs. Like it was the Oklahoma game.

• 2:07:30Speaker 07

  But it was very basic.

• 2:07:31Speaker 00

  Right.

• 2:07:31Speaker 07

  And I, and I think that's where, I think they had to tear it down and get back to, you go back to the Oklahoma game, right? Had to have it moment, knowing what all the talk was after the Western Michigan game. He had more designed run attempts than pass attempts. And they won. And you know, it, it wasn't a factor. They fall behind a couple turnovers against UTEP. All right, what are they going to do against Iowa? Basic, fundamental football, run the ball, make throws, nothing, you know, nothing crazy with, with crazy amount of receivers in patterns, you know, maybe one, one read throws and all that. And it's working. They're going up and down the field. And then he throws the pick on the two yard line. And it's like, you, all that good gets erased. And I think that's

• 2:08:12Speaker 07

  the case for that game against Iowa. There was a lot of good in there. And to me, everybody talked about Whittingham coming in and Beck coming in, the office coordinator, and he had the big turnover or turnaround at Utah, and they led the country in rushing the football. But when I look back at it, they had two top 15 NFL tackles.

• 2:08:30Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:08:31Speaker 07

  On Utah. So like, yeah, you're going to do really well in the big 12 if you have that. So I wouldn't be panicking. I still think Michigan's defense is really elite. And I think you saw the versatility, because that's what I want to see against Iowa. Would they be able to hang in there? Against Oklahoma, you're gonna, you're gonna rush three, you're gonna drop eight, you're gonna mirror the quarter. Like everybody has that, as long as you have the personnel, Michigan has that. And then to be able to do what they did defensively, and, and play in that, in that box that Iowa makes you play in, was impressive until Iowa spread them out in the last drive.

• 2:09:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I think the one thing you could say about Bryce in that game, because he did play so great, is that the, the, the problem is you are limited when you get into situations where you need to get a first down. Like they, like Michigan had the ball twice in the fourth quarter where it's like, get three first downs, game's over. They go run, run, run, and then a incomplete pass. They go, the, the, I think the last drive they had was 45 seconds. They go run, run, run, and that was it. Like they don't trust him.

• 2:09:29Speaker 07

  No.

• 2:09:30Speaker 00

  To, to do it there. And those are the plays, like if you can mix in a pass on second down, and, and when they're not looking for it.

• 2:09:36Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:09:36Speaker 00

  You could maybe win that game and never, Iowa never gets the ball back.

• 2:09:39Speaker 07

  Yeah. But to your point, you knew, you knew what they were going to do. They, they got all the way there. You know, you, you lose the lead 14, 13, you come right back. But I think you're going to see it, you know, they're going to open it up more. Buchanan's a stud. Hyder, the running back is an absolute stud.

• 2:09:57Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:09:57Speaker 07

  If they could figure out, you know, get more consistency on the offensive line, I believe Michigan will be fine.

• 2:10:02Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:10:03Speaker 07

  Penn State comes in, they go to Ohio State. I think they go out to Oregon or Washington.

• 2:10:09Speaker 00

  Indiana, I think they have to play.

• 2:10:10Speaker 07

  Okay. So again, though, they have opportunities.

• 2:10:14Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:10:15Speaker 07

  Like that's all you ask for.

• 2:10:16Speaker 00

  They host, uh, so they, they host Penn State, they host Indiana, they have to go to Oregon and then go to Ohio State. I, yeah, I mean, I think their defense, they obviously can't lose because they're going to get dinged for the Western Michigan, whether they realize it or not. Like if they, if they're a two loss team and there's another two loss team, I think they will lose a tiebreaker.

• 2:10:33Speaker 07

  Yeah. But I mean, if they, if they go, what if they went three and one against those four?

• 2:10:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, that would be impressive.

• 2:10:38Speaker 07

  That's going to be what you're stacking.

• 2:10:40Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I think their defense will keep them in every game.

• 2:10:43Speaker 07

  No doubt.

• 2:10:43Speaker 00

  Absolutely. Uh, can we talk real quick about Wisconsin? That was awesome.

• 2:10:47Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:10:47Speaker 00

  But I don't even, so I was just happy for the first time in a very long time on a Saturday. Like I, I didn't even think about the Penn State of it. I was just thinking the whole time, like, I cannot believe we won this game down 17, nothing. Colton Joseph, roller coaster, just like, just a terrible pick six, the interception right after that. Our defense is legit. Posa and Catalano, like those guys are just dudes, absolute dudes. But so I, I, not to like, you know, the, the gloating is done because you've got to keep winning. And I'm, I'm starting to look at the schedule and be like, oh shit, could we, could we rip off a few here? Penn State though. That was a bad loss. And Rocco Beck looked really bad. A lot of credit to Wisconsin

• 2:11:29Speaker 00

  defense. And Matt Campbell, like there's obvious, I, I, I think the, the Penn State fan base knows they have to like, be like, hey, it's okay. It's okay. Like talk themselves down. But if you can't beat Wisconsin when you're up 17, nothing at home, this might be a long season for Penn State.

• 2:11:47Speaker 07

  Yes. But all anyone did was talk about the schedule preseason.

• 2:11:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:11:51Speaker 07

  Right?

• 2:11:51Speaker 00

  I did.

• 2:11:51Speaker 07

  That's all it was. And, and, and I, I love Matt Campbell. The deal with Matt Campbell, you're going to be in every game. Every game you're going to be in. And Beck, what? 114 yards pass.

• 2:12:03Speaker 00

  Ugly. He did have his best weapon, obviously very, very big.

• 2:12:06Speaker 07

  And I will say that judging defenses proves to me Wisconsin elite defense. Cause the 17 that they got.

• 2:12:15Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:12:15Speaker 07

  Pick six and a pick in the, in opposing territory.

• 2:12:18Speaker 00

  Yep.

• 2:12:18Speaker 07

  So that's 14 right there. So for Wisconsin to climb back.

• 2:12:22Speaker 02

  He also made a throw to win the game and the guy dropped the ball in the end zone.

• 2:12:26Speaker 02

  Tight, tight end for Penn State's got to catch, catch that football, win the football game.

• 2:12:29Speaker 00

  Okay. Rocco Beck was bad.

• 2:12:30Speaker 02

  I, I know, but in that last drive, he made multiple plays to win that game and he had no one step up.

• 2:12:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. But he had a bad game.

• 2:12:38Speaker 02

  Correct. But like it, it wasn't all bad. He made, he made plays to win the game.

• 2:12:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. He was bad. I know. He was bad for like, you guys should've won a lot of the game earlier.

• 2:12:50Speaker 07

  Max, you're up 17, nothing.

• 2:12:51Speaker 02

  Wisconsin win this? Or did, did Penn State lose this, Max? I'm just, I'm just giving credit where credit is due. Like it wasn't all him. He did, you said he didn't have his best player and he, in that last drive, it didn't, it didn't result in a touchdown. But I think that like he at least showed some fight in that, in that last drive.

• 2:13:09Speaker 00

  Fight, fight. We didn't say anything about fight.

• 2:13:13Speaker 07

  That dude's just tough.

• 2:13:13Speaker 00

  He played an objectively bad football game.

• 2:13:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah. But.

• 2:13:18Speaker 00

  No, we're not.

• 2:13:19Speaker 07

  You gotta win that game up 17, nothing.

• 2:13:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:21Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:13:21Speaker 00

  That's it. Yeah. You gotta, you gotta find first downs, like to, especially knowing Wisconsin, like our offense isn't explosive.

• 2:13:28Speaker 07

  No.

• 2:13:28Speaker 00

  Obviously that Jacob Harris, that might be the fastest guy in the world.

• 2:13:32Speaker 07

  How about the stiff arm?

• 2:13:33Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:13:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 2:13:34Speaker 00

  Unbelievable.

• 2:13:34Speaker 07

  I just have a question. We've been talking a while. Like, did he just hear Penn State?

• 2:13:38Speaker 00

  Yeah. He got mad. He got mad a little bit there.

• 2:13:41Speaker 02

  No, well, I don't know. I, I mean, Rock. You have to talk about that drop touchdown.

• 2:13:45Speaker 00

  You gotta talk about the drop.

• 2:13:46Speaker 02

  Got to talk about. Yes. You're acting like that, that is like an inconsequential part of the football game.

• 2:13:51Speaker 00

  No, yeah.

• 2:13:51Speaker 02

  You gotta talk about it.

• 2:13:52Speaker 00

  He said, he said that.

• 2:13:54Speaker 02

  I'm not acting like I'm saying you have to watch. You have to, you have to talk about it. We saw it. You gotta say it.

• 2:13:58Speaker 00

  You gotta say it.

• 2:13:59Speaker 02

  If you see it, you gotta say it.

• 2:14:00Speaker 07

  What's the Phillies rotation going to be?

• 2:14:03Speaker 02

  It's a great question. It's a great question. We got to see if.

• 2:14:05Speaker 07

  Be optimistic.

• 2:14:06Speaker 02

  Great question, Steve.

• 2:14:07Speaker 07

  You have, every one of those guys played in postseason.

• 2:14:09Speaker 00

  I mean, like, man, it's like, why are we not? Talking about the last one. He dropped touch. I'm like, wait. Rocco Beck played bad.

• 2:14:14Speaker 04

  I mean.

• 2:14:15Speaker 00

  He was 12 for 29.

• 2:14:16Speaker 04

  As somebody who watched that, I did, I did bet on Wisconsin, but I did, I don't have like a rooting interest in it. Um, I would not say that Penn State should have won that game.

• 2:14:25Speaker 00

  And also we didn't say Rocco Beck gave up. We're not like, oh, he's, he's, he gave up and he, he didn't try, like, yeah, they, he, they almost, they had a few plays on that last drive where it was like, shit, that ball was right there.

• 2:14:35Speaker 07

  To your point about the Western Michigan game, people are going to hold out against Michigan.

• 2:14:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:14:40Speaker 07

  That game for Penn State, cause they're not, they don't have a lot of opportunities for big wins.

• 2:14:45Speaker 00

  No, they gotta run out, they gotta run the table. Yeah.

• 2:14:48Speaker 07

  That weighs a lot more.

• 2:14:49Speaker 04

  I'm gonna hold against it. You're right. I will. Steve's right. He knows ball. We'll, we'll bring up this loss many more times throughout college football.

• 2:14:56Speaker 00

  Are people, are Penn State, like, I think Penn State fans might freak out a little bit on Matt Campbell because Matt Campbell, remember, was not the first choice. So that changes it a little bit where it's like, you don't get the guy that you wanted.

• 2:15:09Speaker 07

  Mm hmm.

• 2:15:10Speaker 00

  And, and have the time to say, oh, well, he's got to get it figured out. You got your like sixth choice after a long process. If this season goes bad, are they going to be like, what the fuck is going on?

• 2:15:21Speaker 07

  Yeah, I just don't think it's going to get to that point.

• 2:15:23Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 2:15:23Speaker 07

  I, I do have, I love what Matt did, you know, uh, bringing guys, uh, back, Danton Lynn came back, uh, Maude, the old Penn State linebacker, like infused Penn State, you know, where it's very touchy with, you know, what happened in the past there. I think he's, he's smart enough to do the right thing.

• 2:15:40Speaker 00

  It's just crazy looking at the schedule and being like, oh, Northwestern's actually a tough game.

• 2:15:43Speaker 07

  Oh, that's a big one.

• 2:15:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, like Northwestern is a tough game on Friday night.

• 2:15:48Speaker 07

  Yeah. Yeah. Very improved team.

• 2:15:50Speaker 00

  Yes. Yeah.

• 2:15:52Speaker 04

  Um, we mentioned him earlier, but Will Stein, he is listening to this podcast right now as you're saying his name. So just be aware of that.

• 2:15:59Speaker 07

  Love Coach Stein.

• 2:16:00Speaker 04

  What should the expectation be for him? Cause I, I can't get enough of him. I think he's, I think he's like a walking soundbite after a game when he, uh, was that the A and M game?

• 2:16:08Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:16:09Speaker 04

  Just awesome dude. Feels like a guy I would want to play for, um, if I was like, you know, obviously a football player, but, um, they've got a tough schedule coming up.

• 2:16:17Speaker 07

  Uh huh. Tricky spot this week.

• 2:16:19Speaker 04

  Believe in them?

• 2:16:19Speaker 07

  Absolutely. I think, uh, what I learned about Will Stein was I thought he went into one of the toughest jobs, um, going back to Oregon, because when he went there, you had Kenny Dillingham make Bo Nix look like still to me, the best version of Bo Nix I've ever seen.

• 2:16:38Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:16:39Speaker 07

  Like I still haven't, haven't seen it at the pros. And so here comes Will Stein. So like, what do you do? You, you're the office coordinator. Do you bring your own stuff in? Do you adapt? Do you run a bunch of Kenny stuff that, you know, made Bo Nix good? And Bo Nix took another step with Will Stein. Like that's really tricky.

• 2:16:56Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:16:56Speaker 07

  Like you need to talk about egos and all that. And like, I'm going to do it my way and new coaches come in, it's going to be energy and tempo and, you know, we're going to play, you know, faster than anybody. All, all this stuff. That was a really tricky spot and they didn't lose a beat and even improved. So with that, I mean, have you seen his entrances to the stadiums with, with the boombox? I mean, it's, it's really good. And I, you know, you didn't, you didn't know much about, uh, Will Stein, but I, I think that fan base and him having that deal of being a Louisville guy, but now wearing blue, uh, I think it's awesome. And I, I look at, uh, this week as a big spot, cause now the expectations, how have you tempered those? You know, they're.

• 2:17:34Speaker 00

  They came out slow on Saturday.

• 2:17:36Speaker 07

  Against South Alabama. Yeah. And then they end up covering, uh, big second half. So

• 2:17:42Speaker 07

  South Carolina is at rock bottom.

• 2:17:43Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:17:44Speaker 07

  But it's still an SEC road game.

• 2:17:46Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:17:46Speaker 07

  And I believe South Carolina is favored.

• 2:17:48Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, it's a desperation.

• 2:17:50Speaker 07

  That's scary.

• 2:17:50Speaker 00

  It is.

• 2:17:50Speaker 07

  You've ever seen, uh, no Dylan Stewart.

• 2:17:52Speaker 00

  Um, yeah.

• 2:17:53Speaker 07

  So big spot for, for Coach Stein. I mean, this is to take that next step, or you start talking about eight, nine wins, you got, you gotta win this one.

• 2:18:02Speaker 00

  South Carolina is, yeah, minus two and a half.

• 2:18:04Speaker 04

  Is being a coach in for his job?

• 2:18:07Speaker 07

  I don't, it's not really, uh, South Carolina, does it seem like, I mean, that job is tough.

• 2:18:13Speaker 00

  Whoa.

• 2:18:14Speaker 04

  It's his job to coach.

• 2:18:15Speaker 00

  His job is to coach.

• 2:18:16Speaker 04

  So he is coaching for his job. That's.

• 2:18:17Speaker 07

  Oh, okay.

• 2:18:17Speaker 04

  Just a fact.

• 2:18:18Speaker 07

  Got it. Play on words. I knew one was coming. You get me every time. I'm sorry.

• 2:18:23Speaker 04

  But I mean, it, it doesn't seem like it's going well.

• 2:18:26Speaker 07

  No, but as far as like.

• 2:18:27Speaker 04

  Suspend your best player and like, he obviously wasn't listening. He might have some other stuff going on. Like this is kind of a pattern for him at this point, but just like not listening to your coach and like blatantly disobeying him. I feel like he had to suspend him for that game. Um, but it's still not a, it feels like he might be in danger of losing the locker room here.

• 2:18:44Speaker 00

  Hmm.

• 2:18:45Speaker 07

  The other thing is this isn't the first time with Stewart.

• 2:18:47Speaker 04

  Right.

• 2:18:48Speaker 07

  There's been past instances. So I, I just, going into the year, I thought they were going to be improved because I thought a new office coordinator, new O line coach was just what Lenora Sellers needed. And it hasn't looked great. I mean, up 16, nothing against Mississippi State, and you can't win that game. You have to win that game. So again, another chance.

• 2:19:07Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:07Speaker 07

  Uh, here to, with, with much talked about Kentucky team. It's, it's what makes this, this, the whole thing awesome.

• 2:19:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. See if you, uh, you obviously follow the NFL, uh, quite a bit. I just wondering from your, your experience, you saw this weekend, uh, PJ Fleck at the end of the game.

• 2:19:22Speaker 07

  Yes.

• 2:19:23Speaker 04

  Wiping his own quarterback's blood on his face in celebration. Could Drake May learn a lot about how to handle blood on your hand from PJ Fleck?

• 2:19:31Speaker 00

  You talking about the blood fumble?

• 2:19:32Speaker 04

  Minnesota. I'm talking about the blood fumble that Drake May had.

• 2:19:35Speaker 07

  Um, uh, uh, maybe.

• 2:19:37Speaker 04

  Yeah. Drake maybe. That's what they're calling it.

• 2:19:39Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:19:39Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:19:41Speaker 07

  Boy, I learned a lot about the cave and their feelings about Drake May yesterday.

• 2:19:45Speaker 00

  Well, Drake May lover had to leave the cave.

• 2:19:47Speaker 04

  I'm rooting for the guy.

• 2:19:48Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:19:49Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:19:50Speaker 00

  Drake May lover literally left the cave.

• 2:19:52Speaker 07

  I mean, and we're not talking about Hank.

• 2:19:55Speaker 00

  No.

• 2:19:55Speaker 07

  No.

• 2:19:55Speaker 00

  We're talking about the Drake May lover.

• 2:19:57Speaker 07

  There is, there is an actual Drake May lover.

• 2:20:00Speaker 04

  Hank is just a Drake May liker.

• 2:20:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah.

• 2:20:03Speaker 07

  Okay.

• 2:20:04Speaker 00

  He's, Hank sound bad right now, but he's going to pick it up.

• 2:20:08Speaker 07

  I thought Rabel Sand is very concerned.

• 2:20:10Speaker 00

  That's what we were talking about on the show. It's like, that's a shocking thing for him to say.

• 2:20:14Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:20:14Speaker 00

  That's not normally, something he would say is like, we just gotta have, you know, we gotta get back to work and blah, blah, blah. And coach speak being like, I'm very concerned.

• 2:20:22Speaker 07

  Cause also Trevor Lawrence, what he did was downright rotten.

• 2:20:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Egregious.

• 2:20:28Speaker 04

  Yeah. Taking that knee at the.

• 2:20:30Speaker 07

  But that score could have been way worse. Also, that's what I'm looking.

• 2:20:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:20:33Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:20:34Speaker 00

  Uh, all right. Last couple of questions. Who, who do you have winning the world series? You, you turned to me yesterday in the cave.

• 2:20:41Speaker 07

  Yep.

• 2:20:41Speaker 00

  And you, by the way, gave Max and I, uh, you called me up, uh, it was like a maybe mid August, Max?

• 2:20:48Speaker 07

  Right there.

• 2:20:48Speaker 00

  When you were like, you're like, hey, Phillies plus 600 to win the, eight, eight, yeah, plus 800 to win the NL East. I was like, fuck it. I'm going to bet it. Whatever.

• 2:20:58Speaker 07

  They made up six games in a week.

• 2:21:00Speaker 00

  And then they just fell apart. Yeah. It was like great for a minute, but what, are you doing like a jinx on the Phillies? Cause you're a Mets fan? Because then you turned to me in the cave and you're like Phillies Yankees world series.

• 2:21:12Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:21:14Speaker 07

  You know me.

• 2:21:16Speaker 00

  So it is.

• 2:21:16Speaker 07

  You have a little scratch on the teams you despise.

• 2:21:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:19Speaker 07

  And I mean, that, that Phillies, what was that? Oh, nine?

• 2:21:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:23Speaker 07

  Like couldn't watch TV.

• 2:21:25Speaker 00

  Yeah. So you, so you're just doing Phillies Yankees.

• 2:21:28Speaker 07

  I couldn't watch SportsCenter. Like it was, I, those two. So yeah, bet them.

• 2:21:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:32Speaker 07

  I think it's, uh.

• 2:21:33Speaker 00

  But I don't ca, I don't, I don't care about either of those teams. I think I had to do like a.

• 2:21:38Speaker 07

  There's a difference between not caring and not liking.

• 2:21:40Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21:40Speaker 07

  Like.

• 2:21:41Speaker 00

  Like I had to bet the Brewers to win the world series.

• 2:21:44Speaker 07

  Okay. Yeah. But you don't hate the Brewers.

• 2:21:46Speaker 00

  I do. I started, no dude, I hate their fucking manager. He's such, he, he's dri, this year.

• 2:21:50Speaker 07

  Good time, old guy.

• 2:21:51Speaker 00

  Oh, this year's, he, he's, he's, he gives the Coach K vibes of like, when they lose.

• 2:21:56Speaker 07

  Oh, that, watch it.

• 2:21:58Speaker 00

  When they, when they lose, yeah, you're, yeah, a little dookie over there. When they lose, he's like, we're just the scrappy underdog, low, you know, small market teams. Like dude, you guys win a hundred games every single year in the regular season. Shut the fuck up. I don't like him. So he's pissed me off. What are you looking up?

• 2:22:13Speaker 04

  I think he's checking out the odds.

• 2:22:14Speaker 07

  Plus 5,000.

• 2:22:15Speaker 00

  For Yankees.

• 2:22:16Speaker 07

  Yankees world series.

• 2:22:18Speaker 04

  I mean, that's good value.

• 2:22:19Speaker 07

  I bet it. Yes, sir.

• 2:22:19Speaker 04

  You have to admit, it's good value.

• 2:22:22Speaker 07

  Every one of the Phillies has played in the postseason. That's what you want in postseason baseball.

• 2:22:27Speaker 00

  Played poorly.

• 2:22:28Speaker 04

  You've got the experience.

• 2:22:29Speaker 00

  Wait, but so that Phillies bet you gave us was a real bet. That wasn't a troll bet because it would, you, you hate everyone in the NL East. So it wouldn't make, yeah.

• 2:22:37Speaker 07

  I honestly thought that was going to happen.

• 2:22:39Speaker 00

  Like you hate the Braves too. So it's not, yeah.

• 2:22:42Speaker 07

  You hate them or their mascot.

• 2:22:45Speaker 00

  Oh, Bloopie. He's gone though.

• 2:22:46Speaker 07

  Really?

• 2:22:47Speaker 00

  Well.

• 2:22:47Speaker 07

  Fired him?

• 2:22:47Speaker 00

  They changed Bloopie. Bloopie left for, to be, I think worked for the Lions.

• 2:22:52Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:22:53Speaker 00

  So it's a new Bloopie, new Bloopie.

• 2:22:55Speaker 07

  The Detroit Lions?

• 2:22:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. New Bloopie does, he moved.

• 2:22:57Speaker 07

  Trade. He go in the portal?

• 2:22:59Speaker 04

  There's a trade.

• 2:22:59Speaker 00

  Moving up in the world. Yeah. He went to the NFL.

• 2:23:01Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:23:02Speaker 00

  Yeah. So no, you know, Bloopie sent me a whole message being like, dude, it's been fun going.

• 2:23:06Speaker 07

  Handwritten?

• 2:23:07Speaker 00

  New job.

• 2:23:08Speaker 04

  Jersey swap.

• 2:23:08Speaker 00

  No, a D.

• 2:23:09Speaker 07

  I didn't know Muppets could write.

• 2:23:10Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:23:11Speaker 00

  And then, and the new Bloopie just, it isn't the same. Like I just know there's no.

• 2:23:15Speaker 07

  They still have the guy that runs fast, flash or whatever.

• 2:23:18Speaker 00

  Also, yeah, Max is right. He's pulling it up right now. Bloopie kind of was ended when, when the Phillies bullied him offline. Remember that?

• 2:23:26Speaker 07

  This is my favorite tweet of all time.

• 2:23:27Speaker 00

  Uh, Phillies fans bully the Braves mascot into an online meltdown ahead of NLDS matchup. That's a fact.

• 2:23:33Speaker 07

  It's a mascot. So that's a.

• 2:23:35Speaker 00

  That's a real headline.

• 2:23:35Speaker 07

  That's a real headline.

• 2:23:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. No, the city of Philadelphia had Bloopie in hell.

• 2:23:42Speaker 07

  Uh, speaking of the great city of Philadelphia, Max, uh, I was talking to Kelsey about it. We're going there for Monday night football Cowboys game. And I was talking to him and he's like, hey, do me a favor. Wear a Cowboys jersey to the game. I was like, what? I'm like, is it that big? He's like, don't even think about it. He's like, if you want to get pummeled, wear a Cowboys jersey to the link. So, uh.

• 2:24:04Speaker 00

  Shout out.

• 2:24:05Speaker 06

  I'll be, I'll be at that game. Yep.

• 2:24:07Speaker 07

  All right.

• 2:24:07Speaker 00

  Let's go. Love it. All right. Uh, rollback question, rhobac.com promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Q Zips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts, rollback.com. Best stuff. Uh, also thank you, Steve, for coming by. It's been awesome seeing you. We don't have an, I don't think the Bears have another Monday night game.

• 2:24:24Speaker 07

  Maybe Cubs world series. Cubs Phillies.

• 2:24:27Speaker 00

  You're just picking every fucking team. Cubs.

• 2:24:31Speaker 07

  Cubs Phillies.

• 2:24:32Speaker 00

  I do think we beat the Padres. I do think we can beat the Padres after that. I don't love our chances.

• 2:24:37Speaker 04

  I would love to see the Cubs play the Phillies.

• 2:24:38Speaker 00

  Definitely.

• 2:24:39Speaker 07

  Right?

• 2:24:39Speaker 00

  Yeah. In the world series.

• 2:24:40Speaker 04

  Uh, yeah. I, I do, I'd love to see the Cubs play the Phillies and then I'd like to see the Cubs play the White Sox in the world series.

• 2:24:46Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:24:46Speaker 04

  That's what I want.

• 2:24:47Speaker 00

  Uh.

• 2:24:48Speaker 07

  All right. Speaking of troll, I almost bought a White Sox shirt to wear here to troll you, Dan.

• 2:24:53Speaker 00

  Listen, they're in, they're in the playoffs. Fun. They're.

• 2:24:56Speaker 07

  Nobody's going to those games, huh?

• 2:24:58Speaker 00

  What?

• 2:24:59Speaker 07

  Will they sell out?

• 2:24:59Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, they don't, they're on the road. They're at the Astros. But no, they'll be, they'll have an awesome crowd. Awesome crowd. Uh, probably a future Pope in the crowd.

• 2:25:09Speaker 07

  Possible.

• 2:25:10Speaker 00

  Zach.

• 2:25:11Speaker 04

  What's up, Steve?

• 2:25:12Speaker 06

  I would do, sir. I did, I did have a quick question. Do you have an extreme dark horse candidate for Heisman this year? You think it come to fruition?

• 2:25:18Speaker 04

  Ooh.

• 2:25:19Speaker 07

  Ooh. Preseason, it was, um, Nick Frazier at Georgia. He didn't even play last week. I don't think, uh, I think it's really hard now to be an extreme dark horse and win the Heisman.

• 2:25:34Speaker 07

  I, do you have the odds?

• 2:25:36Speaker 04

  He's pulling it up right now.

• 2:25:37Speaker 06

  Pulling it up.

• 2:25:38Speaker 07

  What's, uh, Keelan Russell?

• 2:25:40Speaker 00

  Keelan Russell.

• 2:25:42Speaker 07

  Sixteen to one.

• 2:25:43Speaker 00

  Sixteen to one.

• 2:25:44Speaker 07

  I don't, I don't hate, you know, I don't hate.

• 2:25:47Speaker 00

  Gutter Stockton.

• 2:25:48Speaker 07

  Twenty-eight to one.

• 2:25:50Speaker 00

  Georgia runs the table. He, I mean, he's never gonna have the.

• 2:25:53Speaker 07

  I just don't.

• 2:25:54Speaker 00

  Best numbers.

• 2:25:55Speaker 07

  Heisman.

• 2:25:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:25:56Speaker 07

  He's awesome. I love him, but you know, you need wow moments.

• 2:26:00Speaker 00

  I know, I know, I know.

• 2:26:01Speaker 07

  Keelan, right? Like if Keelan.

• 2:26:03Speaker 00

  Keelan has the wow.

• 2:26:04Speaker 07

  If he beats Mississippi State this week and like again, over three hundred yards, like you're gonna see him way at the top.

• 2:26:11Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:26:11Speaker 04

  The odds right now, I, I feel like Malachi Tony might be not a bad.

• 2:26:16Speaker 07

  Love Malachi.

• 2:26:16Speaker 04

  Is he nineteen or is that eighteen?

• 2:26:18Speaker 00

  Mensa is there too.

• 2:26:19Speaker 04

  Mensa's up higher, but like if he, if Malachi Tony goes off.

• 2:26:22Speaker 07

  They need, they need like the Charles Woodson effect. He's got to return punts. He's got to throw passes. And as we were talking before, they're gonna have the opportunity to do whatever they want offensively. So he's gonna have the, the, the moments. Uh, but what's he right now?

• 2:26:36Speaker 04

  Uh, is he eighteen or nineteen? I can't see real good. I think he's nineteen.

• 2:26:40Speaker 00

  Malachi is nineteen.

• 2:26:41Speaker 04

  Nineteen one, okay.

• 2:26:42Speaker 07

  Malachi or Keelan, those, I like those a lot.

• 2:26:44Speaker 04

  All right.

• 2:26:45Speaker 07

  But, uh, is ball the leader now?

• 2:26:48Speaker 00

  Smith. Ah, Smith, Jeremiah Smith.

• 2:26:49Speaker 07

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:26:50Speaker 04

  Smith, yeah.

• 2:26:51Speaker 07

  Speaking of not extreme dark horses.

• 2:26:53Speaker 04

  What about Nico sixty to one right now?

• 2:26:56Speaker 00

  UCLA is good.

• 2:26:57Speaker 04

  UCLA is a good team.

• 2:26:58Speaker 07

  Handsome Bob.

• 2:26:58Speaker 04

  The problem is it's the way Knight show.

• 2:27:02Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:27:02Speaker 04

  If you're gonna be betting on Nico, who hasn't really played.

• 2:27:04Speaker 07

  Shocker, you're taking Knight's side as opposed to the quarterback.

• 2:27:08Speaker 04

  Well, I mean, he is like.

• 2:27:09Speaker 07

  Not a J, I mean.

• 2:27:09Speaker 04

  He's one of the best running backs in the country.

• 2:27:11Speaker 07

  Hmm.

• 2:27:12Speaker 04

  Undoubtable.

• 2:27:12Speaker 07

  His story is pretty nuts, too.

• 2:27:14Speaker 04

  His story is crazy and then.

• 2:27:15Speaker 07

  Brother?

• 2:27:15Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:27:16Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:27:16Speaker 04

  Then they get, they get a week off and then Oregon. And Bob's not afraid of Oregon. We know that.

• 2:27:22Speaker 07

  No.

• 2:27:24Speaker 04

  Put up five hundred yards against him.

• 2:27:25Speaker 07

  Signed up for sixty.

• 2:27:26Speaker 04

  Yeah, that's right. To the dot.

• 2:27:28Speaker 07

  Absolutely.

• 2:27:29Speaker 00

  Uh, all right, Steve, you're the best. Uh, well, so yeah, I don't think we have a Monday night game, but.

• 2:27:35Speaker 07

  Will people tailgate at Soldier Field?

• 2:27:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:27:37Speaker 07

  Yeah, okay.

• 2:27:37Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. There's, I mean, it's especially this weather. It's gonna be a fun time.

• 2:27:42Speaker 07

  Very good.

• 2:27:42Speaker 00

  Very fun time. Just a little Case Keenum, you know? We're gonna run this on Wednesday, but a little Case Keenum, you know?

• 2:27:48Speaker 07

  Hey.

• 2:27:49Speaker 00

  A little Case Keenum never hurt anyone.

• 2:27:50Speaker 07

  By any means necessary, get a win.

• 2:27:52Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:27:53Speaker 07

  Against that team.

• 2:27:54Speaker 00

  Tread water in the next few games until Caleb gets back. Go five hundred. That's all, that's all I'm asking.

• 2:28:00Speaker 07

  Love it.

• 2:28:00Speaker 00

  Yeah. All right, Steve, you're the best.

• 2:28:02Speaker 07

  Appreciate you guys.

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• 2:29:50Speaker 00

  Okay, we now welcome on a very, very special guest. It is Case Keenum. Fresh off his electric Monday night performance, uh, the Bears beating the Eagles. Case, thank you for joining us. We were, we were actually joking. We've been doing this podcast for ten years. It's actually insane that we've never had you on because you're, you're right in our wheelhouse of like quarterback guys that we love that like, you know, they get in, they gunsling. And just been around forever. Uh, it was awesome to watch on Monday night. The very first question I have though is how sore are you right now? Because we're, we're older guys. We're forty-one, thirty-eight. Like, are you sore?

• 2:30:27Speaker 07

  I, I'm very sore and I, I feel like I'm getting more sore, uh, by the minute. Uh, I'll probably be more sore after this, after this, uh, this phone call than I am when I started it, but it's a good sore, man. I woke up this morning, still smiling. Man, what a, what an incredible twenty-four hours. I mean, the last week itself has just been nuts and to, to cap it off with a night like last night, I mean, Soldier Field at night, I mean, so many cool memories there. Just to add to it last night. Oh my gosh, man, it was, it was, uh, it was electric. So much fun, man.

• 2:31:02Speaker 04

  Yeah, it was so much fun to, to watch you play live and I'm, I'm wondering through the week. Because I think a lot of Bears fans, they didn't know what to expect going into this game. They don't know, you know, if you still have it in the tank. I don't know if you felt confident in yourself. Uh, but going into Monday night, like were there nerves there? Was there confidence? What was, what were your emotions like going into the game?

• 2:31:21Speaker 07

  Oh my gosh, man. Yeah. I mean, so many nerves. Um, and probably for me, man, I just, I care a bunch. I, I love this game. I love what I do and man, I, I put so much into this. I mean, you and I believe the amount of hours that I put into it, just this week alone. Uh, I mean, the last three years coming back from injury. Um, you know, rehabbing, uh, I told a lot of people, I was basically ready to, ready to call it quits, you know, and, and be done playing football. And Ben calls me, I'm in Hawaii at the NFLPA event and, uh, you know, I get a call from Ben Johnson. He's like, hey, you, you know, you still want to come play? I was like, I mean, yeah, let's meet and talk about it.

• 2:32:02Speaker 07

  And we met and talked about it for, uh, supposed to be about fifteen minutes and two and a half hours later, I was like, where do I sign? Let's freaking do this, man. I'm, I'm ready to run through a brick wall for that, man.

• 2:32:13Speaker 00

  That's awesome.

• 2:32:13Speaker 04

  What'd you guys talk about for two hours? Just like you're trying to figure out if you wanted to be a bear, like could you've, you probably could have figured that out after like a couple of minutes, right?

• 2:32:20Speaker 07

  I, I, I knew pretty quickly that I was like, okay, this is, this is where I, I need to be. But we just, we, we agreed on so many things and started talking about ball and this and that. And it just, it's like when you just, when you meet somebody the first time and you're like, wait, wait, you did this? Like, and then, and we're just agree on just about everything on, and, uh, I don't know, it just, it got me geeked up, excited and, uh, man, it really helped me kind of spark that love of football again. And it's been just a magical year and a half. I mean, last year, I know you guys follow along very closely. Big Cat, I know.

• 2:32:55Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:32:55Speaker 07

  Um, golly, man, we, we'd come in after games and be like, is this really happening?

• 2:33:00Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:33:01Speaker 07

  And, uh, man, it's just, it's a special group of guys, man. Ben's a special man and, uh, I'm, I'm just, I'm just happy to be along for the ride.

• 2:33:09Speaker 00

  Yeah, it, it was, uh, he is, he is the absolute man. I have a question about him, but I do want to say, uh, I did get on the right side of history. It took me till six forty-six P M. Last night, so it was about thirty-five minutes before kickoff.

• 2:33:23Speaker 07

  Were you hating all week?

• 2:33:24Speaker 00

  No, no, I wasn't hating. I was like, I don't know what to expect. I was like, I mean, I just, I'd imagine that there was moments where you're like, I haven't played in a few years here, like live action. So I, all week I was like, look, I think I trust in Ben and I, I feel like anything can happen. Then at six forty-six, I was driving into the office to stream the game and I tweeted, I've talked myself into it. Case Keenum's gonna be awesome tonight. So I got in right before I, I just, and then they, yeah, I was there. I was just in the nick of time.

• 2:33:53Speaker 07

  All those messages my buddies back home were saying about how you, all the stuff you were saying all week, that's, that's not true.

• 2:33:58Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 2:33:59Speaker 07

  You switched right before.

• 2:34:00Speaker 00

  Did I say anything bad about Case Keenum? I said, I was nervous.

• 2:34:03Speaker 04

  Listen, if anybody, I might've said, I wouldn't say even bad things. Just we, we, again, we didn't know what to expect.

• 2:34:08Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:09Speaker 04

  I think I called you the Andy Dalton of Cooper rushes.

• 2:34:12Speaker 00

  Oh, that's probably what it was. Yes, that.

• 2:34:15Speaker 04

  Hand up.

• 2:34:15Speaker 00

  That wasn't me. That wasn't me.

• 2:34:17Speaker 04

  What does that even mean? I don't know. That's the thing. It's like, I don't know. It sounded right at the time and I'm not a hater.

• 2:34:23Speaker 00

  Called you the Patrick Mahomes of Cooper rushes.

• 2:34:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 2:34:25Speaker 00

  So yeah, I was actually had your back.

• 2:34:27Speaker 04

  I'm not a hater. Listen, I got my psych, I got myself psyched up for an entire season of, of Case Keenum going into, what year was that? Twenty nineteen with the commanders?

• 2:34:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:34:36Speaker 04

  I was, I was right.

• 2:34:37Speaker 07

  That was the, the team formerly known as the Redskins.

• 2:34:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, you, you, you, I see like that was the stuff that I was seeing because I was like, listen, I think, you know, he's, he's been in the system. He's obviously knows it. But then there's stats like Case Keenum was the last quarterback to start for the St. Louis Rams and the Washington Redskins. And like Case Keenum hasn't thrown a ball over twenty yards. And so, but, but going into the game, obviously you're practicing. You know, you know, you were at the ones, but was there any part of you that's like, this might be different as soon as we get to live bullets because it hasn't happened in a while?

• 2:35:09Speaker 07

  Yeah, I mean, you can't help it. I mean, then Laura, Laura Rutledge, right before the games, like, Case, you know, it's been a thousand, whatever, nine days.

• 2:35:17Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:35:17Speaker 07

  And I'm like, no, I didn't know that. Thank you. Like, um, I don't know. I honestly, I had such a great mindset the day of. I, I put in such a great, uh, uh, week of work that the guys, like I trusted the guys, I trusted the plan, where I'm at in my career. Like seeing the game the same way as Ben and us being able to meet and talk at such a high level. And, you know, call plays and, and like my favorite plays of the week were his favorite plays and wound up in the first fifteen and you saw how the, the, the, you know, the first drive, it was just and it felt like we got into a rhythm. He got me very comfortable very quick and the guys just stepped up. Everybody stepped up. Kalief.

• 2:36:00Speaker 07

  I thought Luther really looked like some Luther from last year. Um, Colston's getting going. Um, man, the O-line, I thought they, they fought their, their tails off and man, it was just, it was electric. And the defense, I mean, you can't say enough about his defense. I mean, it's, it really is a carryover from last year, like just making huge turnovers when we need it. And I mean, they were, they were one second away from putting up a goose egg, you know?

• 2:36:27Speaker 00

  Yeah, no, it was.

• 2:36:28Speaker 07

  I don't know.

• 2:36:28Speaker 00

  It was incredible.

• 2:36:29Speaker 07

  That snap.

• 2:36:30Speaker 04

  It was right on.

• 2:36:31Speaker 00

  It was right on it. But then we had one too. Your, your touchdown, which by the way, did you, did you call your own number on that play?

• 2:36:38Speaker 07

  Well, it was just, it was a, it was a play with another play killed to it. And if we got the right look, um, yeah, a little, little sucker sneak there.

• 2:36:47Speaker 00

  It was good.

• 2:36:48Speaker 07

  Guards and just kind of sneak underneath there. It was a little bit of a, a gutsy, gutsy play, but, uh, I thought the guys upstairs did a great job putting together a really good plan. I mean, from top to bottom, including that play, uh, was, was really fun to see it, see it come to life.

• 2:37:04Speaker 00

  Yeah. And I, I also, I mean, I ne- I never gave up on Case Keenum because I know you saw it. You retweeted it, but I woke up this morning and everyone was retweeting the, from 2019 when I said, RIP Case Keenum. I look forward to him win- I look forward to him winning a random game in five years as a backup. Little did I know it'd be for the Bears on Monday Night Football. I was two years off. It was seven years ago.

• 2:37:24Speaker 07

  A backup's backup.

• 2:37:25Speaker 00

  A backup's backup. And then did you see the first reply to that tweet in 2019?

• 2:37:29Speaker 07

  I haven't looked on it. What was it?

• 2:37:31Speaker 00

  Someone, someone in 2019 just said, Bears? So that guy knows even, even more than I do. It's incredible. But then here we are.

• 2:37:40Speaker 07

  You just exceptioned it, man. You exceptioned it.

• 2:37:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. So I want to talk about Ben Johnson real quick. I saw the quote that all week you put your phone on do not disturb and the only people who get through is your wife and Ben Johnson. And you take a guess who, who, who called you and, and hit you up more. Was it just constant? Like Ben Johnson being like, cause I, I imagine we, we've met him a couple of times. He's just got, he's always on and he's always like locked in. So was he just sending you stuff and being like, I got this idea. I got this idea and just kind of like peppering you because that feels like his vibe.

• 2:38:10Speaker 07

  Yeah. It was back and forth. And actually I, I did that because, um, one of the days early in the week, uh, I, I kind of locked myself, I'm in here in the QB room and, uh, locked myself in here and I'm studying, I'm looking through stuff and I'm, you know, I'm hitting a groove and I didn't realize it, but he had called me two or three times and texted. And then finally he, like somebody shows up in here and I'm like, kind of locked in and like, oh, hey, he's like, dude, come on, we got to meet and talk about some stuff. And, and I'm like, oh, okay. That's when I need to put him on the do not disturb list. So I can be ready to reply, uh, and get some, get some more work done quickly. But yeah, I mean, he, uh, he, he is, there's a lot of coaches that say, uh, you know, the haze in the barn. Have you ever heard that saying? Like on, at the end of the week, on Fridays, fast Friday, we're done, the haze in the barn.

• 2:38:55Speaker 07

  Ben says, there is no hay and there is no barn. So he's, he's putting stuff in at the last minute and, uh, you know, some of our best plays, um, you know, are stuff that he's, he's coming with constantly late in the week.

• 2:39:07Speaker 04

  Yeah. Could you feel that, um, that that QB draw was going to be open? Because they were disrespecting your legs. They were saying Case isn't going to run the ball. They're saying he's afraid to take it up the middle. I don't know if you, you felt that on the field. It was very easy to see on TV. It's like, they don't think that you're going to run. And then at the last, that was a beautiful sneak at the last moment.

• 2:39:26Speaker 07

  Yeah. They probably heard Troy and everybody talking about when the last time I had a rushing touchdown was or whatever that stat was. 2009 or whatever. Um, yeah. So I, I mean, they, they checked to the, the front, got there kind of at the last minute. Again, it was another, you know, we got out of the, uh, huddle a little bit late, but, um, little nerve wracking, man. But, but a drive, I think that was like a 16 play drive. I mean, it was, it was a huge drive there late in the game that, man, just playing complimentary football, uh, towards the end, um, really sealed the deal for us. And, um, you know, there were so many great plays there on that drive and just happy to seal the deal there at the end.

• 2:40:06Speaker 04

  Yeah. There's a, there was one play that I saw, uh, the all 22 of today where there were two wide receivers that ended up running through the C gap at the line of scrimmage.

• 2:40:15Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 2:40:16Speaker 04

  Um, plays like that, is it, I mean, you've, you've played a lot of football before. Is it, is it hard to remember all the new plays that you're putting in every week when there's weird shit like that that, that's coming in all the time? Or is it like, it's so unusual and creative at times that it's easy for somebody to, to sit down and memorize those plays?

• 2:40:35Speaker 07

  I would, I would, I would not say it's easy. Um, I mean, it's another language. You know, we've spent now two years learning the same language. Um, and you know, I don't know how many plays there are, but I mean, there's, there's so many plays in a given week and you've run them, you know, you get a chance to run them a few times, walk through them, but you mentally walk, walk through them to where it's just like, okay, this is a fast fit to gun Charlie Wright squeeze shovel weasel kill pop navy Lucy bow. And it's just like, you're in and out and you, I hear Ben and all, all he says is fast fit. And I'm like, okay, I'm already know what we're about to call, what we're about to play. I know the cadence. I know the front I need to get to, you know, and I need to, you know, know exactly

• 2:41:17Speaker 07

  what I'm looking at, the reads for the next play. If I do have to kill to the next play so that if, you know, a situation like on the goal line where we break the huddle with 10 seconds left, the guys line up quickly, we get to the right play call and execute. So, um, nothing really easy about that. But, uh, man, when you, when you got guys like we got that are willing to work, come in every day and put in a lot of work. Um, man, it's, it's a lot of fun when it comes together, especially on, on primetime.

• 2:41:44Speaker 00

  Yeah. Uh, so obviously you're playing in the game. You don't see the broadcast. So I don't know if someone told you, but they, during the broadcast, they put it up on the screen that, uh, you've been in the NFL for over a decade and, uh, you still have, uh, more yards and touchdowns in college football, which that like on, on its face, you'd be like, oh, that's it. So no, I, I took it as people need to remember how fucking good you were in college football and how like you were an absolute gunslinger, 48 touchdowns, five interceptions in, in your senior year. Uh, what, I mean, what was that like playing in that offense where you're just every single game? You're like, I, I know I'm just going to rip the ball and it's going to be, it, it just seemed like so much fun and it was so much fun to watch you play college football.

• 2:42:29Speaker 07

  Oh, it was a blast, man. It was, it was so much fun. Um, you know, Coach Art Brials was there when I first got going. Coach someone came in, Cliff Kingsbury. We had so many great coaches in, in that system of like a, kind of a, a branch off of the air raid and what Coach Leach was doing at Texas Tech that, um, and honestly like, um, for stats, you know, for offensive stat, our defense wasn't great. And so we, we had to score 50 points if we were going to win a game. And we've even lost games scoring 50 points, but golly, we just went out and, and slung it. I'll remember one time, um, a, a cool Cliff story that we were playing in the, uh, armed forces bowl against air force. Uh, this was like my junior year and just kind of his mentality. We go out and I throw three interceptions

• 2:43:14Speaker 07

  in the first, first half and, uh, it wasn't going very good. He comes in at halftime. He's like, Case, I don't care. He's like, I don't care if you throw 10 touchdowns this next half or 10 interceptions. We're going to keep slinging it, dude. And, uh, I'm like, all right, let's go. And it gave me the ultimate confidence. And you know what? I went, we went out there and I threw three more interceptions in the second half. We lost the game, but man, that's just, that's just his mentality and, and, and it was, is contagious, man. Our whole, uh, our whole offense, our whole team, man, we were just gunslingers and we just loved going out there and slinging it. And, you know, it may not work every time, but, uh, it worked a lot of the time. And, uh, it's a lot of yards, a lot of touchdowns, a lot of completions and, and, uh, it was a lot of fun.

• 2:43:54Speaker 04

  Yeah. It, it was, that was so much fun to watch those teams. Uh, one thing I was really impressed with last night, uh, the hard count. Hard count's still there. Hard count.

• 2:44:04Speaker 04

  Yeah, I jumped. I just jumped. Does that get better with age? Cause I feel like that's one thing. Like that's gotta be as good, if not better than it's ever been.

• 2:44:12Speaker 07

  Yeah. Getting guys to jump with your mouth is always, you know, gets better with age a little bit. So, yeah, I enjoy, uh, I enjoy a good hard count. Um, uh, you know, just trying to make it sound the same every time. Uh, and man, we've, we practiced those type plays and it, and when it works, it, it's, uh, it's, it's nice. And in big situations, that was a huge fourth down conversion there to be able to do that on.

• 2:44:35Speaker 00

  Yeah. Um, all right. So I, I just saw this, uh, tweet. So last night you had 247 yards, three total touchdowns, 24 for 34. Your PFF grade just came out. You got a 18 out of 100.

• 2:44:51Speaker 07

  Was that good?

• 2:44:51Speaker 00

  No, it's really bad.

• 2:44:53Speaker 07

  Oh, darn.

• 2:44:54Speaker 00

  I just made that up. I did like you saying that the, the sack that didn't happen.

• 2:44:59Speaker 00

  I love that. I mean, it's just, it's, it's fun to have like, this is where I, I feel like you're in the point too, where you can have fun with it. And it's like, it's, sports should be fun. I know they're serious, but.

• 2:45:10Speaker 07

  I don't care. I mean, I, I, PFF is great on, on like for us breaking down film and I can go search and find stuff. And there's, you know, they have all these people that grade every little thing that goes on in NFL as far as like, uh, where guys line up and what the formation is and what the coverage was. And maybe what was a pass or a run or a deep pass or a short pass or one of the ride to left or slant. When you start getting grades, it's just so hard. And I know there's a ton of takes out there on all this right now. And I haven't seen a bunch of them, but the intent of, of the play and the design is so hard for somebody who has no idea what's, what's going on to grade on. Um, and then also like, I just, I never really liked the Sunday night football. Like you get guys,

• 2:45:55Speaker 07

  like it's a dream as a kid to be able to say Case Keenum, University of Houston, you know, like, and, and get announced on Monday night or Sunday night football. And like, and then to have that little, you know, right here, you know, it's like 28th out of 30, you know, and I'm like, that, nobody, nobody wants to see that. I mean, I don't know. I just, I don't know. So.

• 2:46:19Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. When it's like dead last, you're like, oh, fuck, this is my big moment. And I'm dead last. Yeah. You know what? We need more people like, uh, me and PFT here who we know what we know, we know what we don't know. We're not going to grade, uh, and talk about like play designs. We're going to do the meatball thing of criticizing a coach when it comes to timeouts and going for it on fourth down. Cause that's stuff we can understand.

• 2:46:41Speaker 04

  We get that. We play video games.

• 2:46:42Speaker 00

  Yeah. And we always play the results. So it's like, if you don't get the fourth down, that was a bad decision. If you did get the fourth down, that was a great decision. And then we just say afterwards, like two hours later, like, oh, I should have called a timeout there.

• 2:46:54Speaker 04

  I also like to say that like, uh, you know, yeah, fourth down clock management, that's good. But if that doesn't work, I'll just be like, you gotta want it more.

• 2:47:01Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:47:02Speaker 04

  That you don't want it enough.

• 2:47:03Speaker 00

  Yeah. You can't get one yard just on the ball.

• 2:47:05Speaker 04

  You don't deserve to win. You can't get one yard. Yeah. Stuff like that.

• 2:47:08Speaker 07

  Obviously. No scheme there. Just line them up and play.

• 2:47:12Speaker 04

  Yeah. We are lucky enough to work around a, a lot of, uh, former professional athletes and, and some that work right here at Barstool, like, uh, Paul Bisnet. He played for the Coyotes. He was in the NHL for a very long time. He was kind of a goon, tough guy. And I talked to him one time about, about showers and just like after a game and he would have a healthy scratch situation. Sometimes he wouldn't play, but he would still shower with the boys afterwards. Um, I saw Caleb Williams wearing a bathrobe in the locker room after the game. Did he shower with the team?

• 2:47:44Speaker 07

  Yeah.

• 2:47:45Speaker 04

  I love that. That's camaraderie.

• 2:47:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's camaraderie.

• 2:47:47Speaker 04

  That's, that's leadership.

• 2:47:49Speaker 07

  Yeah. Why, why, why not? I mean, there's some of the best, some of the best post game, like stories, like you're in there sudsing up and like, dude, you remember, remember that in the middle of that play where we like locked eyes and like, then like, I don't.

• 2:48:06Speaker 03

  I don't know. I have some great memories in there and uh, I don't know. There's something, something about that. I don't know.

• 2:48:11Speaker 00

  Yeah. It's like war stories when everyone's, yeah, it's like before the media comes in, before everyone leaves to their own families.

• 2:48:17Speaker 03

  Well, the media's in there. That's the only place that they really can't go now. So that's the only place we can actually talk in the locker room now. So until we get the, the media out of the locker room after games, you know, that's like, it's not gonna happen. I guess showers are gonna just become that much more sacred.

• 2:48:32Speaker 00

  Yeah. I wish Caleb had kept his glasses on the whole night. He looked so fucking cool. I don't know. You, you.

• 2:48:37Speaker 03

  Y'all digging his mustache? What do y'all think about his mustache?

• 2:48:40Speaker 00

  The only thing, and I, I obviously love Caleb and, and uh, the only thing I, I would say about his mustache, he needs to shave his uh, like the rest of it more often because his jaw is fucking awesome right now. And now I'm sounding ridiculous. The sentence I just said is ridiculous, but his jaw is so sick and I, he needs to let it pop more.

• 2:48:58Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 2:48:58Speaker 00

  That was a crazy thing for me to say. Alright, I'm gonna ask a, a, a last question that's not weird. Uh, dude, how good, how good of a, a kid's show is Bluey? Because I saw you talking about it. Uh, I have three little kids.

• 2:49:09Speaker 03

  Is it a kid's show or is it an adult show?

• 2:49:11Speaker 00

  It might be both. The best part about Bluey is that the episodes are short. So when I, like my three-year-old.

• 2:49:18Speaker 03

  And the worst part.

• 2:49:18Speaker 00

  Yeah. Well, no, but it's the best part because like I have a seven, five and three-year-old. And when my three-year-old says, I want to watch one more. I want to watch one. I'm like, if we're watching Bluey, I'm like, you know what? I'm gonna let you watch two more. Cause it's like, that's nothing, you know? And he doesn't know. He doesn't know how time works.

• 2:49:32Speaker 03

  He's like, yeah.

• 2:49:33Speaker 00

  Yeah. Oh, two more.

• 2:49:34Speaker 03

  You're the best dad in the world.

• 2:49:36Speaker 00

  Yeah. But it's way, did you do some Bluey this morning? I guess it was a school day.

• 2:49:40Speaker 03

  Uh, yeah, well, we all, we all slept in a little bit and uh, they did a half day, but we did, we did actually, we watched a little bit of the game. They wanted to see themselves on TV.

• 2:49:49Speaker 00

  Oh, that's awesome.

• 2:49:50Speaker 03

  Uh, called and were like, uh, this is my sister's kids and they could care less about the game, but they were like, they could not believe that their cousins were on TV. And so they got to see them and then Cadence got to show off her, her pants there that she got, the little uh, Bill Bottoms. And uh, so we did a little bit of that. Had some victory waffles. That's a Keenum family tradition. Uh, my wife Kimberly always makes victory waffles. They are excellent.

• 2:50:16Speaker 00

  That's a perfect morning.

• 2:50:18Speaker 03

  Oh my gosh. Perfect morning. Came in here, get some body work. Uh, uh, they gave me an extra massage slot here in the, in the, the training room. So I'm feeling a bit better.

• 2:50:28Speaker 00

  Yeah. Do, do your kids, I mean, that, that was the coolest part of last night. Uh, not to get sentimental, but the fact that like you even said it like, my kids didn't really believe that I played in the NFL because they were so young. So they believe it now, right? Like that's such a special moment to be able to share that with them.

• 2:50:43Speaker 03

  Yeah. I mean, for them, it's just football work. Like dad's going to football work and you know, honestly, it makes them more sad, you know?

• 2:50:50Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:50:50Speaker 03

  The time. Uh, they get to come up here and play on the turf and you know, run around and, and come to training camp and uh, you know, do some other fun stuff. Uh, you know, I'm, I'm really thankful for those videos and I mean, Scott Van Pelt, you know, talking to Cadence like that and, and doing some of that. Cause I think that they'll remember that maybe based on the, the videos and the memories that, that are created now through that. So, um, yeah, I mean, it's really special. Uh, you know, getting announced at Soldier Field as a starting quarterback of the Chicago Bears. I mean, a lot of things to smile about and uh, getting to talk to you guys.

• 2:51:27Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:51:28Speaker 03

  You know, day after, come on, man. Are you kidding me?

• 2:51:30Speaker 00

  Case, I, I might, I might have to, to like, however the rest of the season goes, I might have to throw out a tweet though, being like, that was awesome from Case Keenum. Can't wait for five years from now when he wins another game as a backup. Just extend it.

• 2:51:45Speaker 00

  Just keep going.

• 2:51:47Speaker 03

  There's, that's it. Yeah. I was full, full gray beard at that time.

• 2:51:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Alright. Uh, last question, rollback question, R H O B A C K dot com, promo code take 20% off your first purchase. Qzips, polos, hoodies, joggers, shorts. Roback.com promo code take. Thank you so much, Case. It's been so much fun. Zach, you got a last question for Case?

• 2:52:04Speaker 04

  Oh, yes, sir.

• 2:52:05Speaker 00

  Alright.

• 2:52:05Speaker 04

  How you doing, Case? I did have a quick question. Uh, 38, you got a lot of life to live, but at the same time, that is a super established age to be QB1 under center. And I was just curious, like, you know, after you get the win last night, you play as well as you did, things kind of settle down and you do check the phone. What are the guys back home saying? Like, was it just absolutely nuclear? Like what, what was the, the sentiment among, among the boys?

• 2:52:29Speaker 03

  You know, it's, it's funny. It's a lot of the same questions that you guys are asking, you know, like how sore are you, dude?

• 2:52:35Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:52:36Speaker 03

  Um, yeah, they're all, I mean, they're all super pumped. My phone is still blowing up. Uh, it's so fun to have, you know, so many, so many crews, man, just in my corner. Um, you know, there's a, there's a group of guys uh, back in Houston and our, and our little group of, of, you know, elementary school, our little league, you know, all the coaches in the little league. I'm a, I'm coach pitch for, for my son Kyler, seven-year-old. And they're all, they're all, you know, giving me a hard time about pitching, you know, on, on the mound for the, for the bunker hill expos. And you know how that paid off now on Monday night football. So, um, and little stories like that, but yeah, give me a hard time and, and but really pumped for me. It's,

• 2:53:18Speaker 03

  uh, it is fun, man. Doing one for all the middle-aged white dudes out there.

• 2:53:22Speaker 04

  Hell yeah. Representation matters. Well, I see you on TV and I'm like, I could do that. Yep.

• 2:53:27Speaker 00

  Yeah. Yeah. Also, we're uh, we're gonna, we're gonna take up for you, uh, the, the college football hall of fame rules are, make no sense. I still don't understand it, but you should be a college football hall of famer. So we're gonna start making some calls.

• 2:53:40Speaker 03

  Appreciate that.

• 2:53:41Speaker 00

  Yeah. I, we got it. Yeah. It's bullshit. There's just, the rules make no sense.

• 2:53:46Speaker 03

  Tweet it into existence, man. Just like you do.

• 2:53:48Speaker 00

  Yeah, I got it. I got it. Alright, well, Case, thank you so much, man. We really appreciate you doing this and uh, get, you know, maybe, maybe get some extra sleep. I don't even know. I, I, you, you like, I mean, yeah, I, I can, I, I sprain my ankle walking off like a curb and I'm done for months, but I also am not a pro athlete. So.

• 2:54:07Speaker 00

  You're the man.

• 2:54:07Speaker 03

  Appreciate you guys. I'll take your advice there. I'll go get some sleep.

• 2:54:10Speaker 00

  Alright, thanks, Case. See you, Case.

• 2:54:13Speaker 00

  Okay, let's finish up the show. We've got FAQs?

• 2:54:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:54:19Speaker 03

  Hey fam.

• 2:54:20Speaker 00

  What's up?

• 2:54:21Speaker 03

  Hey fam. Shout out memes, long-suffering fan of Jets, Mets, Knicks, not anymore. Want to know what old PMT bits do you miss and might bring back as a one-time special? Piss dogs, thanks.

• 2:54:31Speaker 00

  Oh, hmm. I'll say it. I, it had to stop. I do miss calling Lenny Dykstra. Had to stop, but I miss it. Just doing some locker room talk, talking pussy with him. Yeah, it was fun, but it had to stop.

• 2:54:47Speaker 04

  I think, um, if we were gonna bring back who's the most famous person on your cell phone, I think Ari Emanuel would have been a good one for that.

• 2:54:54Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, although he would have.

• 2:54:56Speaker 03

  Famous though. He's just powerful.

• 2:54:58Speaker 04

  Well, that's right. He's got.

• 2:55:00Speaker 03

  Oh, asking him. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 2:55:01Speaker 04

  He might have the most powerful phone.

• 2:55:02Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 2:55:03Speaker 04

  I'd say like him, Rico Bosco, probably the most powerful two phones in America.

• 2:55:06Speaker 00

  That's one, two. Yeah. And if, if Ari's on the East Coast and Rico's got R E B.

• 2:55:13Speaker 04

  Yeah, for sure. Yeah. How many jumpsuits does he have?

• 2:55:15Speaker 00

  Yeah. What do you say, Max? Do you guys wash your apples?

• 2:55:17Speaker 04

  Hmm, that's a good bit.

• 2:55:18Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:55:18Speaker 03

  First boob.

• 2:55:19Speaker 04

  First boob? That lasted one episode?

• 2:55:22Speaker 00

  I do have a, a dream of uh, I don't know, I shouldn't, uh, whatever. Uh, I do think it'd be funny if we could ever figure out, we've toyed with it of Zach picking up our guests in Vanny Woodhead and doing like a little pre-interview or bringing them. Exit interview. Exit interview too. But pre-interview would be funny too. Warm them up. Uh, I just, the idea of Zach picking up like a famous person in Vanny Woodhead. It'd have to be, the problem is, it'd have to be someone who like, we really know, because I don't know a lot of people who come through this office. I don't think we could be like, hey, don't worry about, don't worry about uh, getting, you know, an Uber or a driver to take you here. We've got a guy who's been in multiple accidents.

• 2:56:07Speaker 00

  He's gonna pick you up in a 1994 Chevy uh, conversion van. And things are a steel frame. Yeah. Steve were to be. Steve would have been perfect.

• 2:56:16Speaker 04

  That would have been a good one for it.

• 2:56:17Speaker 00

  Steve would have been perfect.

• 2:56:18Speaker 04

  Yeah, true. He would have gotten it.

• 2:56:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56:20Speaker 04

  He would have played along.

• 2:56:21Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56:21Speaker 04

  Um, I would like to bring back, uh, at some point, one question with the quarterback.

• 2:56:26Speaker 00

  Hmm. Yeah.

• 2:56:27Speaker 04

  Those are always good.

• 2:56:28Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:56:28Speaker 04

  Also Hank, I like your quarterback rankings.

• 2:56:31Speaker 00

  You did quarterback rankings?

• 2:56:32Speaker 04

  He did, he did part of my take act of QB rankings.

• 2:56:34Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 2:56:36Speaker 03

  Case Keenum was one.

• 2:56:36Speaker 04

  He was one.

• 2:56:37Speaker 00

  Nice.

• 2:56:37Speaker 04

  Jacoby Brissette two, Marcus Mariota three, Drake May four, Geno Smith five, Jalen Hurts six, Justin Herbert seven.

• 2:56:46Speaker 00

  Hmm. Okay.

• 2:56:48Speaker 04

  And no Baker.

• 2:56:49Speaker 03

  Baker's not active.

• 2:56:51Speaker 04

  Okay. Uh, no Jalen Daniels.

• 2:56:54Speaker 03

  I haven't, we haven't seen him play.

• 2:56:55Speaker 04

  Yeah. I think he threw a hail mary.

• 2:56:58Speaker 00

  Deep ball. Two of them. Deep ball. Incompletions, but deep ball. But he sent it.

• 2:57:04Speaker 04

  He did send it.

• 2:57:04Speaker 00

  Shows the facts. Let us see a little something.

• 2:57:06Speaker 04

  Alright.

• 2:57:07Speaker 03

  Uh, with the sports equinox upon us, how do the fellows prioritize what to watch? How do you explain to family and friends that you will be devoting all your time to taking in all the sports?

• 2:57:16Speaker 04

  Yeah, this is just the best time of the year. It is.

• 2:57:19Speaker 00

  Yeah, I just, I'm not gonna sleep this week. Uh, and multiple TVs. That's really it. And it's the best. It's the absolute best. So uh, you gotta just say, hey, we're blessed to live in these times. Do I wish the Cubs weren't playing at 9:00 PM? Yeah, I do. But you just survive and advance. Figure it out. This is the best time.

• 2:57:43Speaker 03

  Best week of the year.

• 2:57:44Speaker 00

  Well, no, your best week of the year is uh, first week of the NBA playoffs.

• 2:57:48Speaker 03

  NHL.

• 2:57:49Speaker 00

  NHL.

• 2:57:49Speaker 03

  Respect hockey.

• 2:57:50Speaker 00

  Yeah, it's true.

• 2:57:51Speaker 03

  First, yeah, round.

• 2:57:53Speaker 04

  What are you looking forward to the most about hockey season, Hank?

• 2:57:56Speaker 03

  So much.

• 2:57:56Speaker 00

  Ask him in April.

• 2:57:57Speaker 04

  Yeah. Uh, no more costumes in Carolina.

• 2:58:01Speaker 00

  84 games?

• 2:58:03Speaker 03

  There's 84 games.

• 2:58:04Speaker 00

  They had two games.

• 2:58:05Speaker 03

  That's a force.

• 2:58:05Speaker 04

  Are you gonna be in, in 84?

• 2:58:07Speaker 03

  No, God, no. Like a two.

• 2:58:10Speaker 04

  You're gonna be tour?

• 2:58:11Speaker 03

  A tour.

• 2:58:12Speaker 04

  Speaking of tour, tour Tagliavola.

• 2:58:15Speaker 03

  Nope. Uh, what is the preparation like when you?

• 2:58:18Speaker 04

  What do you mean no? You don't, you don't even know what I was gonna say.

• 2:58:23Speaker 03

  I'm moderating this.

• 2:58:23Speaker 04

  Are you, you're nexting my, my tour Tagliavola quote?

• 2:58:29Speaker 03

  I'm just moderating and this is, this is.

• 2:58:31Speaker 00

  Good job moderating, Hank.

• 2:58:32Speaker 03

  You're out of segment. This would, this would have been good for segment one.

• 2:58:34Speaker 00

  I'm out of segment. Yeah, segment one.

• 2:58:38Speaker 04

  Okay. Oh, yeah. Yeah, we can save it.

• 2:58:40Speaker 03

  Uh, what is the preparation like when you do these interviews with college coaches, professional athletes, etc.? How much of it is predetermined such as questions you want to ask? How much of it just goes based off the flow of conversation and what they say?

• 2:58:52Speaker 04

  Hmm. Both. Yeah, I mean, we, we do take notes before an interview and we know, have a general idea of what we're going to talk about.

• 2:59:01Speaker 00

  It also depends on the interview. Like a college coach on for 15 minutes? I'm not doing like a ton of prep because we know we only have 15 minutes. If it's a sit down interview, maybe grit week or chill week, that's a lot of prep. That's a lot of like trying to figure out what's a good question and stories that we can bring out of them. So yeah, it, it goes up and down. And obviously when we have, I, I think, I think most AWLs love it when we have recurring guests that get the show, like Sam or Steve, like that's, that doesn't take any prep. That's just talking ball.

• 2:59:33Speaker 04

  Yeah, there's, there's some coaches too that kind of fit into that category. We're just going to chop it. We're going to talk about whatever's going on. But then there's the, the first interviews that we have some guys. And then we typically have notes, but you also want to kind of see where the interview is going and, and feel the direction and

• 2:59:48Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:59:49Speaker 04

  like engage in active listening.

• 2:59:50Speaker 00

  Mm hmm. Active listening. Yeah.

• 2:59:53Speaker 04

  Hmm.

• 2:59:53Speaker 03

  Do you ever have a take where you realize halfway through that it's probably wrong, but you're just committed to defending it at that point?

• 2:59:59Speaker 00

  All the time. Like, for example, when PFT said that he got got by more than one account, not just football.

• 3:00:05Speaker 04

  I did get got by more than one account.

• 3:00:07Speaker 03

  No, he got got by one account, but then he researched, so it was fine.

• 3:00:11Speaker 04

  Yeah, I did. Well, it was, what happened?

• 3:00:14Speaker 00

  Multiple accounts said it.

• 3:00:15Speaker 04

  There were, there were lots of quote tweets of that tweet that I saw and, and failed to realize it was from that same original

• 3:00:24Speaker 04

  account.

• 3:00:24Speaker 00

  But yeah, we do it all the time.

• 3:00:25Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:00:26Speaker 00

  All the time.

• 3:00:26Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:00:27Speaker 00

  You just get into a take and you're like, what are you going to?

• 3:00:30Speaker 03

  Almost all my takes.

• 3:00:31Speaker 00

  Yeah, you just get, and once you start it, you just have to stay.

• 3:00:35Speaker 03

  International football.

• 3:00:36Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 3:00:36Speaker 04

  You can find, you can find reasons for your argument after the fact.

• 3:00:40Speaker 00

  Mm hmm.

• 3:00:41Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah.

• 3:00:41Speaker 00

  Easily, easily.

• 3:00:44Speaker 03

  Yeah, just double down.

• 3:00:46Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, and then, you know, every now and then you just be like, yeah, it was wrong. But then just cover up the wrong with a even wronger take. Just keep going. Right? Memes?

• 3:00:58Speaker 02

  Yeah, sometimes you just gotta say good dunk and then golf lefty.

• 3:01:06Speaker 03

  I am golfing lefty. And I almost dunked.

• 3:01:09Speaker 00

  Good, good dunk. Let's just golf lefty.

• 3:01:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, you cover one with the other.

• 3:01:14Speaker 00

  Yeah, like I'm going to get a six pack. No, actually I'm going to dunk. No, I'm actually going to golf lefty.

• 3:01:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:01:19Speaker 00

  Right.

• 3:01:21Speaker 03

  All three of those things could happen this year.

• 3:01:23Speaker 00

  Nope. None of them. Well, I guess you could golf.

• 3:01:26Speaker 02

  The golf lefty could happen.

• 3:01:27Speaker 00

  He is golfing.

• 3:01:27Speaker 02

  The dunk now.

• 3:01:28Speaker 00

  And the six pack. Absolutely not. He's been promising a six pack.

• 3:01:32Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 3:01:32Speaker 00

  Months, for years and years.

• 3:01:34Speaker 03

  But it could still happen.

• 3:01:36Speaker 00

  No.

• 3:01:36Speaker 03

  All, all three of those things could still happen.

• 3:01:38Speaker 02

  The dunk now. I want you to say no to the dunk.

• 3:01:40Speaker 00

  So you're saying it all could happen like I could play in the NBA?

• 3:01:44Speaker 03

  No, come on. Let's be real.

• 3:01:45Speaker 00

  They're the same, they're the same likelihood.

• 3:01:49Speaker 03

  No.

• 3:01:49Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 3:01:50Speaker 04

  Would you not say that in that six month span where you're training very, very hard to dunk? That's, that's as much as you'll ever work on those muscles, on that form. You had a dunking coach.

• 3:01:59Speaker 00

  And also PFT, I don't know how time works, but he's getting older, right?

• 3:02:05Speaker 04

  Yeah.

• 3:02:05Speaker 00

  He's 35 now.

• 3:02:07Speaker 03

  I'm Ben Simmons. I'm in my prime.

• 3:02:09Speaker 04

  He's in his prime.

• 3:02:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. You're in your prime.

• 3:02:11Speaker 03

  He's in, he's in his prime.

• 3:02:12Speaker 04

  He's in my prime.

• 3:02:14Speaker 03

  Best shape of my life.

• 3:02:15Speaker 00

  The mid 30s prime that everyone talks about.

• 3:02:18Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:02:18Speaker 00

  Okay.

• 3:02:21Speaker 03

  No, dunking probably won't happen, but the six pack and golfing.

• 3:02:24Speaker 00

  No, the six pack's not going to happen either, Hank.

• 3:02:29Speaker 03

  Superbowl.

• 3:02:29Speaker 04

  We might have a six pack at the superbowl.

• 3:02:32Speaker 00

  What, what are you doing actively to get a six pack?

• 3:02:34Speaker 04

  The food is in the kitchen now.

• 3:02:37Speaker 03

  Manifesting.

• 3:02:38Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, dream board.

• 3:02:41Speaker 03

  Start, that's where it starts.

• 3:02:42Speaker 00

  That's true. All right. Is that it?

• 3:02:44Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 3:02:44Speaker 00

  All right. Good show, boys. Numbers. Three.

• 3:02:48Speaker 02

  I was going to say three. One.

• 3:02:50Speaker 03

  Eight, 17.

• 3:02:51Speaker 02

  Five.

• 3:02:52Speaker 00

  I gotta piss so bad.

• 3:02:58Speaker 02

  Philly's definitely one, right?

• 3:03:00Speaker 04

  I did, I did a score over the two?

• 3:03:02Speaker 00

  Cubs for sure. One.

• 3:03:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, bullpen game against Chris Sale. It's probably, it's probably fine.

• 3:03:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, that's fine.

• 3:03:09Speaker 02

  It is probably, it probably worked out.

• 3:03:14Speaker 04

  They scored more than two though, right?

• 3:03:16Speaker 02

  Toss him. I don't know.

• 3:03:20Speaker 02

  I, I would take the under. But maybe that, maybe they riff.

• 3:03:24Speaker 04

  This already happened.

• 3:03:25Speaker 02

  This already happened. We already talked about.

• 3:03:26Speaker 04

  I could have scored more than two.

• 3:03:29Speaker 04

  Eighty-six.

• 3:03:30Speaker 00

  Sixty-nine.

• 3:03:32Speaker 04

  Thirteen.

• 3:03:37Speaker 02

  That was a hiccup.

• 3:03:40Speaker 02

  Don't, don't look at me like that.

• 3:03:41Speaker 00

  That was a shocking noise that you just made.

• 3:03:45Speaker 00

  Shocking, Max. Seven.

• 3:03:47Speaker 02

  Seven. Anyone seven?

• 3:03:48Speaker 00

  No one seven.

• 3:03:49Speaker 03

  Close.

• 3:03:50Speaker 02

  What'd you get? What was yours, Hank?

• 3:03:52Speaker 03

  Seventeen.

• 3:03:53Speaker 02

  Ah.

• 3:03:53Speaker 04

  I was five.

• 3:03:56Speaker 02

  Five for J, JD five?

• 3:03:57Speaker 04

  I heard he's coming back week five. Did you guys?

• 3:04:00Speaker 00

  I don't know why he's going to England if he's not going to try to play.

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  Yeah.

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  Case Keenum's number in Houston. Seven.

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  Seventy-six?

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  Seventy-nine.

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  Shocking.

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  Should do one more. Happy birthday to Max for stopping. Happy birthday to Landon Dickerson.

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  Push, push.

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  Happy birthday to

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  Kieran Culkin. Happy birthday to T-Pain. Happy birthday to Brandon's mom. What's up? Happy birthday to Livy Dunn. Happy birthday to Mark McGuire, Jimmy Carter.

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  You've been pretty dialed recently.

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  Carter dead. Correct.

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  What'd you say?

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  Good edition memes.

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  What was it? What was he doing?

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  He said Jimmy Carter's dead.

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  Oh.

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  Breaking moose.

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  Very dead.

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  Extremely dead.

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  Happy birthday to David Bakhtiari as well.

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  Oh.

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  Love you guys.

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  Remember when he made me puke because he hit me so hard in the back?

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  Yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  Cole Card.

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  Yeah.

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  Didn't have anything to do with a million, didn't have anything to do with like the million beers that you had that day.

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  No, no, he, he brushed my back hard enough that I spit up.

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  Where'd you go?

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  We're going to get right back to the show.

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