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JASON KHALIPA | Touch Grass and Train Hard

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This episode features a conversation between the host and former CrossFit Games champion Jason Khalipa about physical fitness, fatherhood, and building community through free men's workout groups. The guest explains how maintaining physical capability is essential for showing up for family and handling unexpected challenges, recounting his journey into Brazilian Jiu Jitsu, the police academy, and tactical shooting. They discuss the importance of intentional physical effort, the limitations of quick fixes like GLP-1 medications or TRT without foundational discipline, and the rapid growth of the Train Hard Men's Club, which now spans over one hundred locations worldwide. The conversation highlights why men need a shared purpose and physical challenge to foster genuine connection and camaraderie.

  • Maintain physical capability so you can always say yes when your children ask you to engage in active play. 37:29
  • Use medical tools like TRT or GLP-1s only as supportive resources rather than replacements for foundational nutrition and strength training. 18:28
  • Incorporate a structured burpee test into your routine to build stamina, improve breath control, and develop mental resilience. 56:04
  • Start or join a local group that combines a hard physical workout with social connection to build meaningful male friendships. 1:00:34

Chapters

  1. 0:00
    Podcast Intro and Guest Introduction

    Host Ryan Mickler introduces the episode and sets the stage for a conversation with former CrossFit champion Jason Khalipa.

  2. 0:49
    Smith & Wesson Partnership and Hunting Goals

    Jason discusses his partnership with Smith & Wesson, his hunting experiences, and his desire to learn big‑game processing.

  3. 1:55
    The Role of TRT and GLP‑1s in Strength and Health

    Both hosts debate the use of testosterone replacement therapy and GLP‑1 medications, emphasizing they are tools, not crutches, for long‑term fitness.

  4. 2:50
    Protecting and Providing for Family Through Fitness

    Jason and Ryan explore how staying physically capable enables fathers to protect, provide, and stay present for their children.

  5. 3:53
    The Train Hard Men’s Club: Origin and Expansion

    Jason recounts how a simple parking‑lot workout evolved into a global network of free men’s clubs focused on hard work and community.

  6. 42:32
    Future Vision: Generational Change and Real‑World Skills

    Jason outlines his long‑term vision for the club to foster generational change, real‑world skills, and a grounded, active lifestyle.

  7. 43:54
    Benefits of Brotherhood, Accountability, and Growth

    The conversation turns to the psychological and social advantages of camaraderie, accountability, and mentorship within the club.

  8. 46:43
    Disguising Connection Through Early Workouts

    The host explains how early Saturday morning workouts serve as a subtle way to bring men together and foster community.

  9. 48:19
    Gender Differences in Social Connection

    Discussion on how men and women approach social gatherings differently and the need for purpose-driven meetups for men.

  10. 50:14
    Purposeful Meetups vs. Casual Coffee

    Exploration of why men prefer purpose-driven activities like workouts over casual coffee meetings to build genuine connections.

  11. 52:22
    Weekly Workout as a Catalyst for Community

    Weekly 6:00 AM workouts create 52 opportunities a year for men to connect, share, and build lasting relationships.

  12. 54:24
    The Burpee Test: From CrossFit to Community Building

    The origin of the burpee test, its evolution into a 5‑minute challenge, and how it serves as a baseline for men’s fitness and mindset.

Highlights

  • 11:35

    Learning New Skills After Fortyinsight

    The guest explains why he pursued a black belt in Brazilian Jiu Jitsu and attended the police academy at age forty-one, arguing that older adults should continuously challenge themselves to learn new things.

  • 14:24

    The Danger of Losing Strengthstory

    The host shares a story about an acquaintance who was trapped between a bed and a wall for days, emphasizing that building and maintaining muscle strength is crucial to prevent being incapacitated by falls.

  • 21:15

    Moving a Heavy Peloton Treadmillstory

    The guest recounts a grueling physical test when he and a friend attempted to move a heavy Peloton treadmill out of a basement, illustrating the practical value of being physically capable outside the gym.

  • 37:26

    Scaling a Parking Lot Workoutdata

    The guest shares data on how his free Saturday morning workout in Los Gatos grew from a small gathering into a group drawing around one hundred men every week.

  • 49:38

    Debating How Men Form Friendshipsdebate

    The host and guest debate how men socialize, agreeing that unlike women who gather without an agenda, men typically require a shared purpose or physical activity to form lasting bonds.

  • 52:58

    Generational Change Through Communityinsight

    The guest explains how regular workouts and coffee meetups turn into broader family friendships, creating a support network and driving long-term cultural change for men.

  • 54:29

    The Burpee Test Standardstrategy

    The guest details the specific protocol of performing fifteen burpees per minute for several minutes, a standard used across Train Hard clubs to build aerobic stamina and breath control.

Quotes

  • “This is your life. This is who you are. This is who you will become at the end of the day.”
    Unnamed speaker · 1:19
  • “If you want to go do things as you get older, you don't want to be limited by your physical ability.”
    Unnamed speaker · 13:38
  • “The best thing that you can do as a man at your age is continue to build muscle.”
    Unnamed speaker · 14:29
  • “That one group now draws around 100 men a week and has grown into the Train Hard Men's Club with more than 100 clubs, offering free workouts in parks and parking lots worldwide.”
    Unnamed speaker · 3:45
  • “And what we are doing is we're disguising this connection with just, we're giving guys a reason to get together.”
    Unnamed speaker · 46:43
  • “At the time, if you had asked him what his faith was, he probably would have said he was like a atheist-ish, just kind of like, kind of neutral, right?”
    Unnamed speaker · 47:16
  • “And doors opened for him because of it.”
    Unnamed speaker · 48:15
  • “It's completely free. It's open for any guy.”
    Unnamed speaker · 38:31
  • “Now it represents your ability to control your heart rate.”
    Unnamed speaker · 55:58
  • Train Hard 59:01–1:01:31
  • War Room 1:01:52–1:02:19

About this episode

Most men don't have a fitness problem as much as they have a "no" problem. Your kid asks you to jump on the trampoline, wrestle, or go for a hike, and you're too tired, too out of shape, or too worried about getting hurt to say yes. Say no enough times and they stop asking. My guest today knows that if you want to protect, provide, and show up for the people who count on you, being physically capable is the price of admission. Jason Khalipa https://www.instagram.com/jasonkhalipa/?hl=en and I talk about learning new skills well past 40, why tools like TRT and GLP-1s should never become crutches, and what it means to stay ahead of your sons in the weight room for as long as you can. We also get into the Train Hard Men's Club, the free weekly workouts Jason started in a library parking lot that have grown to more than 100 clubs around the world. Men need a reason to get together, and a hard workout followed by a cup of coffee might be exactly the excuse you've been missing. SHOW HIGHLIGHTS 00:00 - Opening: Tactical Fitness and Smith & Wesson Partnership 01:16 - Preparing for First Big Game Hunt in Texas 04:19 - Upcoming Whitetail Hunts & Long Range Shooting 07:03 - Evolving with Age: Police Academy & BJJ at 41 09:25 - Maintaining Physical Capability as You Age 10:53 - Muscle Retention, GLP-1 Weight Loss Drugs, and Strength Baselines 13:44 - The "Never Zero" Approach & Modern TRT Tools 16:31 - The Protect and Provide Mandate of Modern Men 18:52 - Training to Always Say Yes to Your Kids 21:31 - Friendly Competition Between Fathers and Sons 24:19 - Inspiring the Next Generation Through Strength 30:40 - Recording Break & Mid-Show Pause 32:44 - The Origin of the Train Hard Men's Club 35:30 - Scaling Free Men's Clubs Worldwide 38:59 - Restoring Real-World Groundedness and Connection 41:09 - The Unique Value of Male Brotherhood and Accountability 45:08 - Why Men Need Purpose-Driven Gathering 51:13 - Breakdown of the Train Hard Burpee Test 52:50 - Breathwork, Heart Rate Control, and Managing Stress at Home 56:45 - How to Join or Start a Local Train Hard Club Battle Planners: Pick yours up today! https://store.orderofman.com/products/order-of-man-annual-battle-planner Order Ryan's new book, The Masculinity Manifesto https://www.amazon.com/Masculinity-Manifesto-Establishes-Influence-Credibility/dp/1684513316/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1665048672&sr=8-1. For more information on the Iron Council brotherhood https://orderofman.link/iron-council. Want maximum health, wealth, relationships, and abundance in your life? Sign up for our free course, 30 Days to Battle Ready https://orderofman.link/battle-ready-0

Transcript

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Topics

  • CrossFit
  • Vortex
  • Utah
  • burpee test
  • Martha's Vineyard
  • TRT
  • CrossFit Games
  • Los Gatos
  • Ozempic
  • Nightforce

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