Pod Insights Off Menu with Ed Gamble and James Acaster Gillian Anderson About this episode We’re back in National Treash territory with multi-award winning actor, ‘Sex Education’ and ‘The X Files’ star and soft drinks entrepreneur Gillian Anderson. But what is Green Glass Jello?
‘TRON: ARES’ is out in cinemas on 10th October.
‘Trespasses’ will air in November on Channel 4
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0:14 Speaker 00 Welcome to the Off Menu Podcast, taking the baked beans of conversation, the little sausages of humour and putting them in the can of a podcast. Sausage and beans in a can, James.
0:26 Speaker 01 Oh, you're in the factory making these?
0:30 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah, the factory of humour.
0:33 Speaker 01 This is the first time we've ever had a factory introduction. Normally it's when
0:37 Speaker 00 Cooking it.
0:38 Speaker 01 When someone's about to eat it.
0:39 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
0:40 Speaker 01 You're working in the factory now?
0:41 Speaker 00 Yeah, I'm working in the factory, mate.
0:43 Speaker 01 Because the way this country's going, we need to remind people of the working man.
0:46 Speaker 00 Yes, industrial revolution.
0:50 Speaker 01 That is a gag. Well, my name is James Acaster. Together we own a dream restaurant and every single week we invite a guest and ask them their favourite ever start a main course, dessert, side dish and drink, I want to say?
1:00 Speaker 00 Drink, yes.
1:00 Speaker 01 Not in that order. This week our guest is Gillian Anderson.
1:05 Speaker 00 Gillian Anderson, James.
1:07 Speaker 01 Whoa, I mean, international trash.
1:09 Speaker 00 Yes, international trash, absolute ledge.
1:12 Speaker 01 It's pretty exciting, pretty crazy. Obviously, you know, an icon of Scully on X-Files when we were growing up, but now an icon all over again with Sex Education, The Crown. Also, some really exciting projects coming up that we're excited about. Tron, Ed?
1:29 Speaker 00 Tron Ares.
1:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, I'm glad you said it because I didn't know how to pronounce that.
1:33 Speaker 00 I'm assuming it's Tron Ares unless it's Tron R's, which wouldn't make any sense.
1:38 Speaker 01 R's.
1:38 Speaker 00 No, Tron Ares, I'm going to say.
1:40 Speaker 01 It's an anagram of arse.
1:41 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:42 Speaker 01 But, yes, I'm excited about it. I like the Tron films.
1:46 Speaker 00 Tron arse, I'm going day one.
1:49 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, day one, I'm going to see Tron arse.
1:51 Speaker 00 Yeah, it's completely normal. Everyone's in normal, like, the world, but all of their arses are, like, computer generated.
1:57 Speaker 01 Their arses have been Tron.
1:58 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:59 Speaker 01 Oh, no.
2:01 Speaker 01 And Tron'd our butts.
2:02 Speaker 00 Yeah.
2:03 Speaker 01 What are we going to do? Yeah.
2:05 Speaker 00 I'm glad we're getting all this out of our system before Gillian arrives.
2:08 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, that's good. Uh, but it's exciting. It's an exciting film that's coming out. Uh, loads of great people in it, including of course Gillian Anderson.
2:16 Speaker 00 Yes. Hassan Minaj is in it.
2:18 Speaker 01 We, we met him.
2:19 Speaker 00 Yeah, we met him.
2:20 Speaker 01 We met him and awards somebody.
2:22 Speaker 00 Very hungover when we met him.
2:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, to be honest. Yeah, I, I, I would like to meet Hassan again and be sober.
2:28 Speaker 00 Yes.
2:29 Speaker 01 So that he, he thinks more of me as if I'm a reprobate.
2:32 Speaker 00 Yes.
2:33 Speaker 01 Jeff Bridges is in it, of course, the OG.
2:35 Speaker 00 Yeah.
2:35 Speaker 01 The OG Tron. What about trespasses on Channel Four? Like, it's not just Tron, not just Tron, Ed, there's trespasses or trespasses. When I was a kid, in prayer, we said trespasses. I went to a C of E school.
2:47 Speaker 00 Those who forgive us, uh.
2:49 Speaker 01 Those who trespass against?
2:50 Speaker 00 Those who trespass against us, thingy.
2:52 Speaker 01 Yeah.
2:52 Speaker 00 Yeah, that one.
2:53 Speaker 01 So we can forgive us our trespasses.
2:55 Speaker 00 Yeah, forgive, forgive, forgive us our trespasses. I would say forgive us our trespasses.
2:58 Speaker 01 But then trespasses surely is like, actually how you, but I think it's called trespasses.
3:03 Speaker 00 I think it's trespasses, forgive us those who trespass against us. Yeah, yeah.
3:08 Speaker 01 Trespasses.
3:08 Speaker 00 Look, we've got things to ask Gillian, but I think question one should be, is it trespasses or trespasses? And what did you say in Sunday School?
3:15 Speaker 01 If it's called Tresp- Arses, it might be about a world.
3:20 Speaker 00 All of Gillian's things she's here to talk about are about bums.
3:23 Speaker 01 Our asses have been tramped.
3:25 Speaker 00 Anyway, she's also got a drink called G-Spot, James.
3:30 Speaker 01 Oh my God, Gillian Anderson.
3:32 Speaker 00 Which is nothing to do with asses if my reading has been correct.
3:36 Speaker 01 Yes.
3:37 Speaker 00 Apart from with men.
3:38 Speaker 01 Yes, it's a delicious, it's a delicious drink, a delicious non-alcoholic drink.
3:44 Speaker 00 Oh, by the way, if me and James sound like we're out of sorts or a bit weird, we're not in our usual studio today.
3:49 Speaker 01 Hmm.
3:50 Speaker 00 Um, we're in a different studio, Spiritland, because, um, Benito's having, uh, the off-menu studio refurbished.
3:56 Speaker 01 He's having a refurb.
3:57 Speaker 00 Um, and I saw the blueprints, James. You know, it's going to be exactly the same, but he's having a glory hole put in.
4:02 Speaker 01 But he does. You naughty little boy. Um, we are giddy. We're like little kids on a school trip.
4:08 Speaker 00 Yeah, we are. I've just had a coffee.
4:09 Speaker 01 We can't believe we've been allowed here.
4:11 Speaker 00 Yes, Gillian has a drink called G-Spot, James. It's a fresh alternative to the high-sugar caffeinated drinks that dominate the market.
4:20 Speaker 01 I tell you what, I think we're sounding like we need that at the minute.
4:23 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think so.
4:24 Speaker 01 Yeah, we need an alternative to high-sugar caffeinated drinks because we are all over the place.
4:28 Speaker 00 We're buzzing off our wangers.
4:30 Speaker 01 Yeah, we're forty years old and we're buzzing off our wangers.
4:32 Speaker 00 Thirty-nine, thank you.
4:35 Speaker 00 Please don't wish my life away.
4:38 Speaker 01 No, it's coming, it's coming for you, Ed.
4:40 Speaker 00 Yeah, I know that, I'm not stupid.
4:42 Speaker 01 Listen.
4:43 Speaker 00 But let me enjoy those months.
4:44 Speaker 01 Yes, I'll let you enjoy those months.
4:45 Speaker 00 Thank you.
4:46 Speaker 01 We love Gillian Anderson.
4:47 Speaker 00 Yes.
4:48 Speaker 01 We're going to kick her out the dream restaurant if she picks the secret ingredient. That's what we tend to do.
4:52 Speaker 00 Yes, and um, normally we say the secret ingredient together, James, but
4:56 Speaker 01 Yes.
4:56 Speaker 00 I don't really know what it is, so you're going to have to read it out.
4:59 Speaker 01 Yeah, because it's quite long.
5:00 Speaker 00 Yeah.
5:00 Speaker 01 The secret ingredient is non-fat tofu tea rice dreamsicle.
5:05 Speaker 00 And that's something from The X-Files, yeah?
5:07 Speaker 01 Season six, from the episode The Unnatural.
5:09 Speaker 00 Yeah.
5:09 Speaker 01 Scully has eaten a non-fat tofu tea rice dreamsicle and Mulder is making fun of her for it.
5:14 Speaker 00 Can I check something?
5:15 Speaker 01 Yes.
5:16 Speaker 00 Someone else has suggested this ingredient to you.
5:18 Speaker 01 My partner.
5:19 Speaker 00 Your partner.
5:20 Speaker 01 Who loves X-Files.
5:21 Speaker 00 And now you're reading what it is
5:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:24 Speaker 00 off a photograph
5:25 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:25 Speaker 00 where she's written it on a card.
5:27 Speaker 01 Yep.
5:27 Speaker 00 Why didn't she just text it to you?
5:29 Speaker 01 She had written it down while watching the episode on a post-it next to her and then just took a photo of it and sent it to me.
5:39 Speaker 00 Okay, so she's watched this episode recently?
5:42 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:42 Speaker 00 Okay, cool. I don't think Gillian's going to pick that, which is good.
5:45 Speaker 01 Well, she might do.
5:46 Speaker 00 Yeah.
5:46 Speaker 01 You never know. And uh, my partner's very excited that Gillian Anderson's in.
5:51 Speaker 00 So am I.
5:51 Speaker 01 She was her first female crush.
5:53 Speaker 00 Can I tell you what happened when I told my wife that Gillian Anderson was coming on?
5:57 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:57 Speaker 00 She simply went like this.
6:04 Speaker 01 Wow.
6:05 Speaker 00 Yeah.
6:06 Speaker 01 Wow. Well, I mean, we can tell Gillian Anderson all this. We can see, can't we? We'll see. We'll see what the vibes like.
6:11 Speaker 00 And you can watch this on YouTube from tomorrow. So listen to it and then watch it.
6:16 Speaker 01 Sure.
6:16 Speaker 00 Listen to it and you might think, hmm, what do they look like when they say those things?
6:20 Speaker 01 Yeah. I wonder if what I imagined in my head is the same as what actually happened.
6:24 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
6:24 Speaker 01 And like you get points.
6:25 Speaker 00 Yes.
6:26 Speaker 01 For how close you were.
6:27 Speaker 00 Yeah. And then Benito will send you a signed chopping board.
6:29 Speaker 01 If you're, if you, yeah, if you get the most accurate imagined version of the podcast.
6:34 Speaker 00 Yeah.
6:34 Speaker 01 And you've got to be honest about it.
6:35 Speaker 00 Yeah.
6:36 Speaker 01 Do it in percentage.
6:37 Speaker 00 Yeah, percentage.
6:38 Speaker 01 If you could say, I imagine like this percentage accuracy.
6:42 Speaker 00 Yes.
6:42 Speaker 01 Like a hundred percent.
6:44 Speaker 00 This is the off-menu menu of Gillian Anderson.
6:55 Speaker 00 Welcome Gillian to the dream restaurant.
6:57 Speaker 02 Thank you for having me.
6:59 Speaker 01 Welcome Gillian Anderson to the dream restaurant. But it's been a fun time.
7:04 Speaker 02 Yeah, exactly that.
7:04 Speaker 00 Do you have questions about James's entrance there?
7:07 Speaker 02 Yes. No, no, no, no. I'm, I was prepared. Yeah.
7:11 Speaker 01 Who prepared you?
7:12 Speaker 02 Uh, a little bit of googling.
7:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
7:15 Speaker 00 Yeah.
7:15 Speaker 02 Googling and listening age.
7:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
7:18 Speaker 02 Listening age to the guests and whatnot.
7:20 Speaker 00 I don't think I've ever heard the edge, uh, edge added to listening before, but it works for me.
7:24 Speaker 01 Listening age. I like listening age.
7:26 Speaker 00 Yeah.
7:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's good. I'll start using that. I might come away from this as talking exactly like you, if that's okay.
7:31 Speaker 02 Why not? Why not?
7:32 Speaker 01 It's, you know, you're a cool person.
7:34 Speaker 02 Thanks very much.
7:34 Speaker 01 A lot of people think you're cool, you know, pretty much everyone.
7:37 Speaker 00 Yeah.
7:38 Speaker 01 How's that feel?
7:40 Speaker 02 Not so sure about that, but.
7:41 Speaker 01 Everyone else, everyone I've said to, we're, we're interviewing Gillian Anderson. It was like, what the fuck?
7:46 Speaker 00 Yeah.
7:46 Speaker 01 I call this, everyone thinks it's cool.
7:48 Speaker 02 I'll, I'll take that.
7:49 Speaker 00 I don't know how you expect Gillian to react to that, James.
7:53 Speaker 01 I want to know what it's like to have everyone think you're cool.
7:55 Speaker 00 Right.
7:57 Speaker 02 One day the shoe will drop.
7:59 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:00 Speaker 02 That's.
8:01 Speaker 01 I don't know.
8:02 Speaker 00 But also, everyone thinks Gillian's cool. Sure, I agree with that. But imagine if Gillian was like, yeah, everyone does think I'm cool. Then immediately not cool.
8:10 Speaker 02 Of course.
8:10 Speaker 01 Yeah. Yeah, then you stop being cool, don't you?
8:12 Speaker 00 Yeah.
8:12 Speaker 01 If you're arrogant about it.
8:14 Speaker 02 Duh.
8:16 Speaker 01 I don't know. I think I'd like that if you were like that. Yeah, yeah. You were bringing der back.
8:22 Speaker 00 Yeah.
8:22 Speaker 02 If I was bringing der back.
8:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. I think that's great.
8:25 Speaker 00 Bring der back, I reckon.
8:27 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:27 Speaker 00 Yeah.
8:28 Speaker 01 I think Billy Eilish tried to bring der back on that song. It kind of worked for a little bit.
8:32 Speaker 02 Wait, which song? Can you sing a bit to me?
8:34 Speaker 01 Der. She has that. It's a Bad Guy, that Bad Guy song.
8:38 Speaker 02 How else does it go?
8:39 Speaker 01 Oh, God, I don't really like singing.
8:41 Speaker 00 Yeah.
8:41 Speaker 01 I'm so scared of singing those things.
8:43 Speaker 00 And I think Gillian picked up on that.
8:47 Speaker 01 But I've made it sound like something off Noel's house party.
8:50 Speaker 00 That one.
8:50 Speaker 02 It is. That was, that was almost crowded housing.
8:55 Speaker 01 It was a bit like that.
8:55 Speaker 00 It sounds like Noel's house party.
8:57 Speaker 01 Well, it sounds like something that should be on like a nineties, like Saturday night show, the way I just did. Like a Chuckle Brothers theme tune or something, rather than Billy Eilish.
9:05 Speaker 02 I'm not Chuckle Brothers.
9:06 Speaker 01 You've got to know about Chuckle Brothers. Are you kidding me?
9:08 Speaker 00 This is a huge moment in podcasting.
9:09 Speaker 02 Oh dear.
9:10 Speaker 00 You and me get to explain to Gillian Anderson who the Chuckle Brothers are.
9:13 Speaker 01 I can't believe this. I mean, they would have been at their peak at the same time as X-Files. So maybe.
9:20 Speaker 00 I've never thought of them like that.
9:22 Speaker 01 No, they were though. So.
9:23 Speaker 02 So they were nineties.
9:24 Speaker 01 So, so, yeah, so there's a chance that they passed you by because you were very busy during this period of time.
9:29 Speaker 02 I was. I was also living in the States.
9:30 Speaker 00 Yeah, you're in the States.
9:31 Speaker 02 They don't sound like they were in the US.
9:34 Speaker 00 They didn't make the crossover. They didn't make the crossover. They're sort of like Robbie Williams. They never managed to break America sadly.
9:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, and they're a couple of monkeys.
9:42 Speaker 00 Yeah.
9:42 Speaker 02 Or Jimmy Savile, fortunately.
9:44 Speaker 00 Yeah.
9:44 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
9:45 Speaker 00 And thank God.
9:46 Speaker 01 Yeah.
9:47 Speaker 00 The Chuckle Brothers, they were children's entertainers. They had a show called Chuckle Vision.
9:50 Speaker 02 Okay.
9:51 Speaker 00 Um, where they would just like get up to hijinks, they'd have a new job every week and it would always go wrong inevitably. They had a catchphrase, which is to me, to you, normally when they were carrying something, to me, to you.
10:01 Speaker 02 Okay.
10:02 Speaker 00 One of them is sadly passed, but one, another one's still trucking.
10:05 Speaker 01 Yeah. And there was always like, I think there was two bosses.
10:08 Speaker 00 Yeah.
10:08 Speaker 01 And one of them would say no slacking to them if they were being lazy. He'd go, no slacking.
10:14 Speaker 00 Yeah.
10:14 Speaker 01 Like that. And as kids, we all loved the Chuckle Brothers. They both had little moustaches.
10:19 Speaker 00 Yeah. So that's who the Chuckle Brothers are, Gillian.
10:21 Speaker 01 They do panto quite a bit. They used to do panto quite a bit. Very similar, actually, uh, if you ask me, to Tron.
10:30 Speaker 00 Another great link from you, Joe.
10:32 Speaker 01 Yes. Coming to cinemas soon.
10:35 Speaker 02 Did they have light cycles?
10:36 Speaker 01 Yeah, they had light cycles with the Chuckle Brothers.
10:39 Speaker 00 But one, they had a tandem.
10:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. Oh, I'd love that. Chuckle Brothers got, got in Tron. That's exciting. What, what was it like when like a franchise that you've seen for years? Cause like Tron, even though there's been, I think only two films is the third one.
10:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
10:53 Speaker 01 But like, it's still like such a huge part and like you, you know, you will remember the first one.
10:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
10:58 Speaker 01 And now you're getting to go into that world. What's that like?
11:00 Speaker 02 Pretty cool to be, yeah. Cause you know, you get, you get a phone call, I mean, you know, proverbial phone call.
11:07 Speaker 01 Mm-hmm.
11:07 Speaker 02 Every once in a while and sometimes it's like, eh, okay. And sometimes it's like, yeah. So it was kind of like, yeah.
11:17 Speaker 01 What was the phone call like when you got offered this podcast?
11:21 Speaker 02 It's like, yeah.
11:23 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
11:24 Speaker 00 Better Google it.
11:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, better Google it.
11:26 Speaker 02 No, no, it's all good. Uh, yeah, pretty fucking cool, actually.
11:30 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:31 Speaker 02 We asked to be involved in Tron and, and also, um, aside from my own fandom or whatever. Knowing that it was, uh, that they were throwing a lot of money at it.
11:42 Speaker 01 Yeah.
11:42 Speaker 02 And, um, uh, I'm a big fan of Greta Lee, who's in it and Evan Peters and, you know, it's got Jared Leto, it's got a good cast and. And, and it lives up to, it's, it, it really lives up to it. It's really good, actually.
11:55 Speaker 00 You've got to throw, you've got to throw a lot of money at Tron though, haven't you? If there, you can't skimp on the budget for a Tron film.
12:00 Speaker 02 Because, because, you know, science fiction, sometimes there's the other version of it, which is it can be rubber bands and, and glue and cardboard.
12:08 Speaker 00 Which has its charms.
12:09 Speaker 02 Has its charms and makes it, you know, uh, uh, adds to the cult appeal.
12:14 Speaker 01 Yeah.
12:14 Speaker 02 So it could be that. But in this instance, it's m- many, many multiples of millions.
12:20 Speaker 00 Yeah, high end, high end sci-fi.
12:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
12:23 Speaker 00 Yeah.
12:23 Speaker 02 Yeah.
12:24 Speaker 01 And we've been debating, uh, how to pronounce trespasses. Is it, is it trespasses or trespasses? What would you say? The show that you're doing on Channel Four. Cause in, in prayer time as a little kid at school, I'd say trespasses.
12:35 Speaker 02 Yeah.
12:36 Speaker 01 That was what we were taught to say. But now if I say it on its own, I say trespasses. I've just never said it on its own. I've only said it. In terms of asking God to forgive me.
12:44 Speaker 02 Yeah. And all of your trespasses.
12:47 Speaker 01 And everyone trespasses against me as well.
12:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
12:49 Speaker 01 Or not, that I will forgive them.
12:51 Speaker 00 When you started talking about prayer time, it's very early for this as well. Gillian looked at me in the way most guests look at me at some point during, during the episode where they go.
12:58 Speaker 02 It's quite early in the, uh.
12:59 Speaker 00 Who the fuck is this guy?
13:00 Speaker 01 Yeah.
13:01 Speaker 02 No, it was good.
13:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
13:03 Speaker 02 I think I probably say trespasses, whether I say it during my morning prayers or whether I say it, uh, on its own. I think I say trespasses.
13:12 Speaker 01 Just to reassure you, I don't do prayer time anymore. This was when I was a little boy and it was having to do it.
13:17 Speaker 00 Yes.
13:17 Speaker 02 Have you ever thought about taking it up again?
13:19 Speaker 00 Yeah.
13:20 Speaker 01 Yeah, many times I've thought about taking it up again.
13:22 Speaker 02 Do you think that would answer some of the, you know?
13:26 Speaker 01 Huh?
13:27 Speaker 00 The big questions?
13:28 Speaker 02 The, the, the issues.
13:32 Speaker 01 The issues?
13:35 Speaker 01 You think prayer time would answer some of my issues?
13:37 Speaker 02 That's what I think.
13:39 Speaker 01 Yeah.
13:39 Speaker 02 Well, no, I'm just thinking about your comments at the beginning about him not, uh, not, not really being happy about anything.
13:46 Speaker 00 Yeah.
13:46 Speaker 01 Yes.
13:47 Speaker 02 That, that, that nothing really appears to you.
13:49 Speaker 00 Before we started recording.
13:50 Speaker 02 I wasn't? I'm sorry. No. How did you phrase it? Not to like repeat it or anything, but what did you say?
13:55 Speaker 00 He's never excited about anything?
13:57 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:57 Speaker 00 Yeah.
13:58 Speaker 02 Yeah. So maybe if you started prayer again, you'd get excited about things.
14:01 Speaker 00 Yeah.
14:01 Speaker 01 I could pray to be excited.
14:03 Speaker 02 Yeah, you could. Please, please God.
14:05 Speaker 01 Please God, make me excited.
14:08 Speaker 01 Yeah.
14:08 Speaker 00 And forgive those who do.
14:09 Speaker 02 One of my drinks out there is called a rouse. That will get you excited.
14:12 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. I should, I should sink a big can of aroused.
14:15 Speaker 02 Yeah, fuck prayer. You just have some G-spot. Anyway.
14:19 Speaker 00 Yeah, we're, we're drinking. We're drinking G-spot, which is your drink.
14:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:24 Speaker 00 I'm drinking lift.
14:25 Speaker 02 Yeah, I'm drinking soothe.
14:27 Speaker 00 None of us picked aroused.
14:28 Speaker 01 I've gone for soothe as well. I should have got aroused really.
14:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
14:31 Speaker 01 But I.
14:31 Speaker 02 We can do something about that.
14:32 Speaker 01 I don't wanna do, I don't wanna drink aroused while talking to Gillian. I've never met Gillian before. I don't wanna risk anything.
14:38 Speaker 00 Benito's got a big can of aroused on the go, actually.
14:41 Speaker 02 No, it's another soothe.
14:42 Speaker 01 He's soothing it as well.
14:43 Speaker 00 Be fun to say, say he's got aroused.
14:45 Speaker 01 Especially because he's got a laptop on his lap. We'd know if he was drinking aroused.
14:50 Speaker 02 Well, presumably the laptop would be on the ceiling.
14:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, word for bed. Oh, that's a compliment. What a buddy.
14:55 Speaker 00 It'd be through the fucking roof.
14:56 Speaker 01 You gotta be happy with that. It'd refurb another studio.
15:02 Speaker 01 Good stuff. And obviously, we know that you're a fan of food and drink. You've got your own drink.
15:07 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
15:08 Speaker 01 As well. So we normally would ask people if they're, you know, if they're foodies, but I guess.
15:13 Speaker 02 I'm sort of a foodie.
15:14 Speaker 01 Mm hmm.
15:15 Speaker 02 Yeah. I mean, I, I, I'm, I'm one of those people that could literally eat the same thing every single day for a year. If I like something. I'm not really that fast, but I do, and I don't really cook. I cook for my kids.
15:28 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
15:29 Speaker 02 Which makes me happy.
15:30 Speaker 00 That's cooking. So you do.
15:31 Speaker 02 Yeah, I do cook, but I don't, I'm not very good at cooking for anybody else, like for guests and whatnot.
15:38 Speaker 00 What's your speciality that you cook for your kids? What's your kids' favourite thing of, on your repertoire?
15:43 Speaker 02 Uh, one of them likes, um, chicken wraps very much. Like, he could eat that every day for a year.
15:51 Speaker 01 I'm imagining a little Colonel Sanders.
15:53 Speaker 00 Yeah.
15:54 Speaker 02 Yeah, well, I do, you know, it's just, it's, you know, sometimes it's salmon and kale and sweet potato and sometimes it's.
16:02 Speaker 01 It's for healthy kids, man.
16:03 Speaker 02 Yeah.
16:04 Speaker 00 Did you tell the Andersons' kids, man? We, we, we think they're gonna be eating. They're healthy kids.
16:09 Speaker 02 That's what I cook. I cook, uh, you know, some form of protein and, and vegetables, really, is what it is.
16:16 Speaker 01 Classic.
16:16 Speaker 02 Classic, yeah. Sometimes curries, but you know, I don't make it from scratch.
16:22 Speaker 01 No.
16:22 Speaker 02 I'm not one of those people.
16:24 Speaker 00 You're ordering it in?
16:26 Speaker 02 No, no, no, no, I make it. I just use, there are these great, um, like Massamann curries that are frozen. They're actually frozen, uh, they're on like popsicle sticks.
16:36 Speaker 00 What?
16:37 Speaker 02 Yeah, it's odd.
16:39 Speaker 00 Have you ever considered during the summer just getting one out of the freezer and eating it like a popsicle?
16:43 Speaker 02 I have not. No. But you add, you know, you add coconut milk or coconut cream and you start and that's, uh, that's what I do. Better than a jar. For some reason, it feels more.
16:54 Speaker 00 Feels like you're doing something, yeah, and you're cooking something.
16:56 Speaker 01 Feels more natural that it's on a lollipop.
17:00 Speaker 02 Somehow, I don't know why.
17:02 Speaker 01 It's how you find curry in the wild.
17:04 Speaker 00 So it grows.
17:05 Speaker 01 Yeah, he'd pull it out the ground.
17:06 Speaker 02 He's funnier than I thought he'd be.
17:08 Speaker 00 He's a funny guy, isn't he?
17:09 Speaker 02 He's a funny guy.
17:09 Speaker 00 How funny do you think he was gonna be?
17:11 Speaker 02 Ah, like, one to ten, I thought maybe a seven, but he's, he might be like a nine.
17:17 Speaker 00 He's nine on a bad day, this guy.
17:18 Speaker 02 That's amazing.
17:19 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:20 Speaker 01 It's my job.
17:21 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:21 Speaker 02 Yeah, alright.
17:22 Speaker 01 It's fucking offensive thing anyone's ever said, man.
17:27 Speaker 00 At least it was that way around.
17:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, to be fair.
17:29 Speaker 02 Yeah, because I thought it was gonna be funnier.
17:31 Speaker 01 People turn up disappointed a lot.
17:33 Speaker 00 Yeah, I go, he's way more miserable than I thought he was gonna be, actually.
17:36 Speaker 01 Yeah, because I don't, I don't, you know, I think it's quite annoying if a comedian tries to be funny as soon as they meet you, right? Outside, I was like.
17:44 Speaker 02 Turn it down, turn it down.
17:46 Speaker 01 Hello, thanks for doing the podcast, I told you your eyes were thinking.
17:48 Speaker 02 Yeah, you were very dry.
17:50 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
17:51 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
17:51 Speaker 02 Very dry.
17:52 Speaker 01 This guy meant to be funny?
17:53 Speaker 00 Yeah, you should have come in on a little tricycle.
17:54 Speaker 02 So it was a manipulation?
17:55 Speaker 01 Should have come in with like a clown.
17:57 Speaker 00 Yeah, he was hustling.
17:58 Speaker 02 Yeah.
17:58 Speaker 00 Yeah.
17:59 Speaker 01 I was hustling, yeah, it was a hustle, and I apologise, because that was dishonest of me.
18:07 Speaker 01 Well, we always start with still or sparkling water on the podcast, Jen, do you have a preference for your dream meal?
18:11 Speaker 02 I do, thank you for asking, sparkling, please.
18:14 Speaker 01 Oh, and what, I mean, obviously G-spot's sparkling.
18:18 Speaker 02 It is, yeah, because, because I like sparkling.
18:21 Speaker 01 You do like the bubble?
18:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, I do, they're not meant to be good for you, though, they're not meant to be good for your gut or your teeth.
18:27 Speaker 00 I've heard this, but we've got to, we've got to just relax, haven't we? Come on, we've got to have some fun now and again.
18:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, push the button out.
18:35 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:35 Speaker 02 Have a bit of sparkling water.
18:36 Speaker 00 You can't walk through your life going, I was this good for my teeth or not, just get stuck in.
18:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, we've heard it not being good for your teeth on the podcast before, but I haven't heard someone say about the gut thing.
18:45 Speaker 00 Yeah.
18:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, I think it's, you know, all the air.
18:48 Speaker 01 Just the air in your gut?
18:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:50 Speaker 00 What the, it's not good for the air.
18:52 Speaker 02 It's not, no, it's not good for, the air is not good for your gut.
18:55 Speaker 00 Oh, the air isn't, so don't breathe.
18:56 Speaker 02 I think.
18:56 Speaker 00 Don't breathe, is the vibe.
18:58 Speaker 02 Maybe in the bubbles, maybe it's something to do with the bubbles.
19:01 Speaker 00 In the bubbles, not the air.
19:02 Speaker 02 The extra air.
19:03 Speaker 00 Not all the air in the world.
19:04 Speaker 02 I actually don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I'm just, I'm making it up, I'm just, I'm sorry.
19:09 Speaker 00 Look, this is modern podcasting, we can just say something scientific and pretend that it's real, yeah.
19:13 Speaker 02 Yeah, yes.
19:14 Speaker 00 And we'll be the biggest podcast in the world.
19:16 Speaker 02 Or, or, or politicians.
19:18 Speaker 00 Yeah, exactly, just make it up.
19:19 Speaker 02 Mm-hmm, as we go along.
19:22 Speaker 01 Ed is worried that, uh, now that air, air in general is just bad for your guts, you can't breathe.
19:27 Speaker 00 Yes.
19:28 Speaker 01 So that's gonna be stressful for him now, so well done. That's, that's, that's Ed for ages now, every time he breathes in, all scared.
19:34 Speaker 00 Yeah.
19:34 Speaker 01 But you say it's the bubbles get in.
19:36 Speaker 02 I don't know.
19:37 Speaker 01 And then pop, they like the bubbles pop.
19:39 Speaker 02 I say I don't know what I'm talking about, is what I say.
19:41 Speaker 01 I believe you though.
19:42 Speaker 02 Yeah.
19:43 Speaker 01 I believe you, I think you'd know.
19:44 Speaker 02 But regardless, yes, they are sparkling, cause I like sparkling. And also that they all have an apple base, cause I mix apple juice with sparkling water in my life.
19:55 Speaker 01 Yeah, just at home, you do a little, what, what are your ratios there?
19:59 Speaker 02 Oh, good, very good question, it's important.
20:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
20:02 Speaker 02 Uh, half and half, probably, it should, it should probably be a quarter to three quarter.
20:08 Speaker 01 Uh-huh.
20:08 Speaker 02 Uh, heavier on the water.
20:10 Speaker 01 Sure.
20:11 Speaker 02 But it depends.
20:13 Speaker 01 Over the years, you've like, gone up with the apple juice, I imagine.
20:17 Speaker 02 Actually, more likely to have more apple juice, uh, while eating a meal.
20:23 Speaker 01 Uh-huh.
20:24 Speaker 02 I'm more likely to have more water in between, but I shouldn't be having either.
20:28 Speaker 01 Really? You shouldn't have apple juice either?
20:30 Speaker 02 Well, you shouldn't really have, um.
20:32 Speaker 00 No, so many things are bad for you.
20:34 Speaker 02 Well, no, no, but you, you, I know, but you should, you're not, you're not really sup- supposed, I don't wanna use the word supposed, but they say, if you have fruit at the same time that you're having food, it causes fermentation, which is also not good for your gut. Obviously, I don't listen, because I, I drink it with every, you can ferment your gut, yeah.
20:54 Speaker 01 Oh my god.
20:54 Speaker 02 Although some fermentation's good for your gut. Again, I don't know what the fuck I'm talking about, I'm just saying.
21:00 Speaker 00 Yeah, cause I thought like, fermented things, like kimchi and that, that's supposed to be good for your gut, right?
21:05 Speaker 02 It is, but it's all the sugar that's in, if you have a lot of, you know.
21:09 Speaker 01 I'm sorry to draw, uh, an X-Files like parallels so early in the podcast, but you're like Mulder and Scully in one. You believe something without knowing it and then you question it immediately. That's not, that can't be real. It's like both characters walking around. Uh, my girlfriend drinks a lot of apple juice.
21:29 Speaker 02 Oh, really?
21:30 Speaker 01 She, yeah, got to the point now she doesn't have to ask me to get it when I'm going to the shop.
21:33 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
21:34 Speaker 01 She'll need a new, like massive bottle of apple juice.
21:36 Speaker 02 What brand? Are you allowed to say brands?
21:38 Speaker 01 Yeah, we are, but like I actually don't know this one because it's like, I've literally got it so many times from the shop, I don't even see the label anymore.
21:44 Speaker 02 Is it in plastic or in cardboard?
21:45 Speaker 01 It's a glass bottle, it's a glass bottle.
21:46 Speaker 02 It's a glass bottle, you get a fancy.
21:49 Speaker 00 Yeah, that's a fancy one, isn't it?
21:50 Speaker 02 That's a fancy one.
21:51 Speaker 00 That ain't Capella.
21:52 Speaker 01 No, no, it's big. It's like a huge glass bottle.
21:56 Speaker 02 You mean the big ones like that, like Martinelli's with the?
21:59 Speaker 01 Uh, no, but like, is this, it's quite a tall.
22:01 Speaker 02 Yes.
22:02 Speaker 01 Like big bottle, it might as well be a wine bottle really, yeah.
22:05 Speaker 02 Right, yeah, like a magnum.
22:06 Speaker 01 Yeah, and I'm like, that's always got to be, anytime I'm going out to get something, I've got to get one of those because she's guzzling that, like.
22:14 Speaker 00 Is she drinking it straight or is she putting?
22:15 Speaker 01 She's drinking it straight, she's not doing the.
22:17 Speaker 00 I can't do that, that's not for me.
22:18 Speaker 01 She's not doing that, she's like, she may as well have like an adult sized sippy cup, like a little kid.
22:22 Speaker 00 Well, that's it. I think adding sparkling water to it makes it a grown up drink.
22:26 Speaker 02 It does.
22:27 Speaker 00 Whereas drinking straight apple juice, are you five? Is your girlfriend five?
22:31 Speaker 01 She's not, just to be clear, when she was nine, which is still.
22:36 Speaker 00 When you met her?
22:36 Speaker 01 Still to come.
22:37 Speaker 00 Yeah.
22:39 Speaker 01 She told me that when she was nine years old, she had her first, uh, crush on a lady.
22:45 Speaker 02 Oh.
22:46 Speaker 01 You know, she's ever had in her life. Can you guess who that lady was, Gillian Anderson?
22:49 Speaker 02 Well, I hope it wasn't her mum.
22:55 Speaker 00 Fingers crossed not her mum.
22:57 Speaker 02 Sorry.
22:59 Speaker 02 Sorry.
23:00 Speaker 01 Why would I be bringing that up? On the pod, guess what? My girlfriend used to fancy her mum when she was growing up. What do you think about that?
23:07 Speaker 00 And she loves apple juice.
23:08 Speaker 01 Oh, she loves apple juice, there you go. It was you.
23:11 Speaker 02 Oh, really? When she was nine?
23:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, it was just nine, she remembers it very clearly, she's telling me it's her first feeling. She's, she's, she's old now.
23:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:20 Speaker 01 She's like in her late thirties. Yeah, yeah.
23:22 Speaker 02 Yeah.
23:23 Speaker 01 But, uh, but yes, you were her first.
23:25 Speaker 02 Well, she, she knew, she knew at nine that she had a crush.
23:28 Speaker 01 Yep, she was like, this is, this is the real deal.
23:30 Speaker 00 Yeah.
23:30 Speaker 02 Right, okay.
23:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, like this, this lady is like, I can't stop thinking about her.
23:34 Speaker 02 Wow, interesting.
23:36 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. And what, what did your wife say when?
23:38 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah. I said, we're interviewing Gillian Anderson tomorrow. She went like this, whoa. So there you go, both of our partners. Very jealous that we're speaking together.
23:47 Speaker 01 Clearly, yeah, rather.
23:49 Speaker 00 And apparently, my wife is like Les Dawson, that was my impression.
23:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
23:53 Speaker 00 Yeah.
23:54 Speaker 01 Ed's wife's quite grubby.
23:55 Speaker 00 Oh, I can't believe you miss Les Dawson as well.
24:00 Speaker 00 You know Les Dawson?
24:01 Speaker 01 Old comic.
24:01 Speaker 00 Old comedian, no.
24:03 Speaker 01 Oh, a bit.
24:04 Speaker 00 I'm gonna pick my references better moving forward.
24:06 Speaker 02 No, no, it's alright, this is good, I'm, I'm, I'm learning. I'm learning.
24:10 Speaker 01 Hmm, I don't know how much, how useful all the stuff you're learning is though, I do apologise for what we're filling your head with.
24:17 Speaker 01 Pupadons or bread? Pupadons or bread, Gillian Anderson? Pupadons or bread?
24:20 Speaker 02 Uh, definitely bread. I love pupadons, but bread's the real deal. Not the real, that's not to imply that pupadons aren't real, but I love, I love bread.
24:31 Speaker 01 Yeah.
24:31 Speaker 02 I love a lot of bread.
24:32 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah?
24:33 Speaker 02 Yeah, I mean, bread's, bread's probably the, my favourite thing to eat ever in the world. I could eat it all the time, every day.
24:40 Speaker 00 And, and, and do you? Or is there, is this another, it's bad for the guts scenario?
24:44 Speaker 02 No, no, no, I, I do, I do eat bread. I do eat a lot of bread.
24:48 Speaker 00 What's your, what's your go-to bread? What bread is always in the house?
24:51 Speaker 02 Oh, probably bagels.
24:53 Speaker 00 Oh, nice.
24:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
24:53 Speaker 01 Oh, lovely.
24:54 Speaker 00 We rarely get shout-outs for bagels.
24:56 Speaker 01 Yeah.
24:56 Speaker 02 Oh, really?
24:57 Speaker 00 Isn't it? Yeah.
24:57 Speaker 01 Yeah, this is nice that we get, uh, cause obviously we do this section every single episode.
25:02 Speaker 02 Yeah.
25:03 Speaker 01 So it's nice to get a bread that we don't really see get enough praise.
25:06 Speaker 02 I mean, I like, I like, like a sourdough loaf, like really crispy and, and kind of white, bad for your gut, uh, white flour on the inside. That's really nice with a lot of butter or really good olive oil.
25:20 Speaker 01 What bagels are we talking about? What are your favourite bagels?
25:23 Speaker 02 Uh, usually sesame bagels.
25:25 Speaker 01 Yes.
25:26 Speaker 02 But you know, there, there's a big difference between, you know, New York is famous for their bagels.
25:31 Speaker 01 Yeah.
25:31 Speaker 02 And there's a bit like proper New York bagels, they just taste different than other bagels. And I don't know what makes a difference.
25:39 Speaker 00 Well, we've had some guests from New York on this show and they claim it's the water in New York. So they, apparently the tap water in New York and the water they get is different to everywhere else in America. It's like amazing water.
25:52 Speaker 02 Is it?
25:53 Speaker 00 It goes into the bagels. Doesn't feel like it should be.
25:55 Speaker 02 No, isn't it full of drugs and?
25:58 Speaker 00 That's why the bagels are so good.
26:00 Speaker 01 It's full of drugs.
26:01 Speaker 00 Full of drugs.
26:01 Speaker 02 But it would, of course it would be.
26:03 Speaker 01 But they say it's like it's from a mountain spring.
26:06 Speaker 00 Yeah.
26:07 Speaker 02 In New York City.
26:08 Speaker 01 That's what they say. Suzy Esman told us that.
26:11 Speaker 00 Yeah. Suzy Esman told us that. Yeah.
26:13 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:13 Speaker 00 She never mentioned that it was full of drugs.
26:15 Speaker 01 She didn't say it was full of drugs.
26:17 Speaker 02 I know, but if all those people taking drugs, prescription drugs and, you know, the fentanyl's of the world.
26:23 Speaker 00 Yes.
26:23 Speaker 02 Are then peeing.
26:24 Speaker 00 Yeah.
26:25 Speaker 02 You can't filter all of that out.
26:27 Speaker 00 I hope you can.
26:28 Speaker 02 Well, you can't.
26:29 Speaker 00 Are you saying every time we drink tap water, we're drinking pee?
26:32 Speaker 02 Aren't we?
26:34 Speaker 01 Hold on, hold on. Are we, are we drinking piss?
26:39 Speaker 01 What are you saying?
26:42 Speaker 01 We're just drinking piss?
26:44 Speaker 02 No, but it's all going in. No, no, no. But it all goes into the water and the filtration, the sanitation systems, isn't it? I mean, it's not, it's not all coming from London. It's not coming from the glaciers where?
26:54 Speaker 00 No, sure, but I'm, but I'm assuming that they filter it well enough that there's almost no piss in it by the time I'm drinking it.
27:00 Speaker 02 No, it's not. Well, the piss is the least of your problems.
27:02 Speaker 00 Okay, tell me it's more of my problems.
27:04 Speaker 02 Well, the drugs and everything that's left over because the particles of the drugs is smaller than the particles of your piss, isn't it?
27:11 Speaker 01 But it's all like drugs that was in your piss. It's all piss drugs.
27:15 Speaker 00 Gillian, how have you wandered down another blind alley where you're claiming to know the size of drug particles?
27:20 Speaker 02 How have I lived this far in life? How have I survived? I know nothing and everything that I do know is bollocks.
27:29 Speaker 01 Be a great episode. I would like it, but remake X-Files and have it that Gillian just plays both characters, just one person. It's just like, you know, that's piss you're drinking.
27:38 Speaker 02 No, it's not. Yes, it is.
27:40 Speaker 01 That's a piss.
27:42 Speaker 00 Well, I'm only reporting what people from New York have said.
27:45 Speaker 02 Okay.
27:46 Speaker 00 That the bagels are better because of the water.
27:47 Speaker 02 Okay.
27:48 Speaker 00 And maybe that's because the bagels are full of drugs.
27:50 Speaker 02 Yes.
27:51 Speaker 00 Maybe there's like all sorts of drugs in there, like you've got the uppers, downers.
27:54 Speaker 02 All of it.
27:55 Speaker 00 Yeah.
27:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, it could be that it is for the drugs.
27:57 Speaker 00 And they probably, all the drugs probably balance themselves out, don't they? Because they're all doing different things.
28:01 Speaker 02 Perhaps.
28:01 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, so you're saying that like the uppers and the, see this is where we're really out of our depth because we don't, we're not very druggie.
28:08 Speaker 02 Well, we counter balance the fentanyl.
28:11 Speaker 00 Well, what?
28:12 Speaker 02 Would cocaine do it?
28:13 Speaker 00 Yeah, a bit of cocaine, surely. Fentanyl's a downer, is it? And then cocaine's an upper.
28:20 Speaker 01 I don't know any. Cocaine is definitely an upper.
28:23 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:23 Speaker 01 Because I've spoke to people on cocaine.
28:25 Speaker 00 But then prescription, prescription drugs, there'd be like loads of antidepressants in there, so that'd be good, bagel cheer you up.
28:31 Speaker 01 Bagel cheer you up?
28:32 Speaker 00 Bagel cheer you up.
28:33 Speaker 01 Oh.
28:33 Speaker 00 Because of the antidepressants.
28:35 Speaker 01 Yeah, so that's nice.
28:35 Speaker 00 Yeah.
28:36 Speaker 01 Did you find that the bagel cheers you up when you have it in New York?
28:39 Speaker 02 Uh.
28:44 Speaker 01 Like.
28:45 Speaker 02 I don't know the last time I actually had.
28:47 Speaker 01 Use that as a sound on its own, buddy. Cut that on its own and use it in various episodes when Gillian isn't even on. And have it just in between people talking of.
29:00 Speaker 00 If only, only if you're watching this episode, will you be able to see that Gillian did a full three hundred and sixty rotation of her head.
29:07 Speaker 02 Not three sixty, because actually when I got to there, my neck actually hurt.
29:10 Speaker 00 Three sixty would be impossible, that would really be X-Files.
29:12 Speaker 01 Yeah, that would be, that'd be full X-Files. If you did that, I'd go, whoa, that was X-Files.
29:18 Speaker 02 This is why I could play the monsters as well, Morgan and Scully and the monsters with my.
29:23 Speaker 00 Well, it's a one, it's a one woman show, right? So, yeah.
29:25 Speaker 01 Yeah, full three sixty of the head.
29:28 Speaker 00 Yeah.
29:28 Speaker 01 So are we giving you a New York sesame bagel as the bread course?
29:32 Speaker 02 See, I don't think so.
29:34 Speaker 01 No.
29:34 Speaker 02 Not based on what my main is.
29:36 Speaker 01 Okay, so you like the sourdough?
29:38 Speaker 02 No, it feels like it needs to be more. I probably, even though it uh traditionally it wouldn't suit, it feels like it would suit for other reasons, which is a hala.
29:50 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
29:51 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:51 Speaker 01 Lovely.
29:52 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:52 Speaker 01 Yeah, we've had that chose on the podcast before. I think Ben Schwartz chose that.
29:56 Speaker 00 Yes.
29:56 Speaker 02 Yeah. What did De Niro choose as his?
29:59 Speaker 01 Oh, he didn't choose anything.
30:00 Speaker 00 He chose whatever's good for every single course.
30:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, we we had to choose it for him because and I and and Joe, what? A lot of guests had a problem with that and were like, why has he not? Chose his own menu? Why didn't he do the prep? I think it's very insightful into the life of Robert De Niro. That you just learn that what he does now is turn up at a restaurant and the people there just bring him out whatever they think is best. And I think that's interesting.
30:22 Speaker 02 Is it? Is that a truism? Did he say that?
30:24 Speaker 00 Yeah, he he ju- he he and for everything we asked him, he went, I like whatever's good, good food. And then we did have to say, Robert, we're going to be asking you. The whole time what you want. So just so you know, it's not an aggressive act. It's just the.
30:36 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:36 Speaker 00 It's just the format of the podcast.
30:38 Speaker 02 Yeah.
30:38 Speaker 00 And the answer is always, why did Robert De Niro do that? Is uh is Robert De Niro can do do what he likes?
30:43 Speaker 01 Yeah.
30:44 Speaker 00 Yeah.
30:44 Speaker 01 And you can do what you like.
30:45 Speaker 00 Yeah.
30:46 Speaker 01 To be honest as well.
30:47 Speaker 00 But we're glad you're picking something specific because that does make the chat way easier.
30:51 Speaker 01 But there you go. I mean, uh you must know some like, some of those people, uh actors and whatever, who just turn up. And they just go, just bring me whatever's good. You must have met some people like that. You don't have to name names, but like, you know, I'm sure you've come across that before.
31:04 Speaker 02 Uh I don't know if I do. I I feel like I've known a couple of humans in my life, not not necessarily actors, who, you know, properly trust. The people within the restaurant to make that decision.
31:14 Speaker 01 Mm hmm.
31:15 Speaker 02 But I think I'm too controlling. I mean, you know, when you look at a menu. You are deciding what you actually feel like at that moment. And what if they brought you something that you didn't feel like?
31:25 Speaker 00 Yeah, absolutely. I agree with you. And I'm looking at a menu before I go into a restaurant.
31:29 Speaker 02 Do you do that?
31:30 Speaker 00 I look online to do my research.
31:31 Speaker 02 Do you?
31:32 Speaker 00 Yeah, big time.
31:33 Speaker 02 Was that prior to doing this podcast?
31:35 Speaker 00 Yes, prior to doing this podcast, yeah.
31:37 Speaker 01 It's kind of one of the reasons why we do this podcast.
31:40 Speaker 00 Because we're both obsessed with food.
31:41 Speaker 01 Already our person. Sometimes I'll be going to a restaurant and it's like, where are you going? Right. And then within, when I'm on my way to that restaurant. Ed takes me what he would get at the restaurant because he's looked at the menu online.
31:50 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
31:51 Speaker 01 And knows what he would get.
31:52 Speaker 02 That's funny.
31:52 Speaker 01 He he can tell you an any any menu of any restaurant in London.
31:57 Speaker 00 No, absolutely not.
31:58 Speaker 01 He can recite it.
31:59 Speaker 00 You can't.
32:00 Speaker 01 Like Devon Brown.
32:02 Speaker 02 So interested in this. So how often do you go out to eat?
32:06 Speaker 00 Um, probably less than I used to, maybe a couple of times a week, a couple of times a week, but for a special, for a special meal out twice a week. So it's not really.
32:13 Speaker 02 And you, you try to always choose new places that you haven't been to before?
32:17 Speaker 00 No, you've got to go for the old classics sometimes. It's like you say, sometimes you're just in the mood for something certain. So, you know, you go, you go to the old classics, but I do like trying new places. Went to a lovely restaurant this week I'd not been to before called Akoko, which is a, a West African inspired tasting menu restaurant.
32:33 Speaker 02 Right.
32:33 Speaker 00 Very, very good.
32:34 Speaker 02 Was it?
32:35 Speaker 00 Yeah, that was excellent.
32:36 Speaker 01 He's the best at trying new places. Out of anyone I know, he's the best at going to new restaurants all the time, finding them, telling me about them. Every time people ask me, cause I do this podcast.
32:44 Speaker 00 Yeah.
32:45 Speaker 01 We're going, we're in London for a few days, work, dinner and eat. I'm like, here is Ed Gamble's phone number.
32:49 Speaker 00 Yeah.
32:50 Speaker 01 I'm afraid that that is who you need to sort of.
32:52 Speaker 00 Basically, my job now is recommending restaurants to people in London. Yeah.
32:55 Speaker 02 Have you ever watched that documentary by the food critic in Los Angeles called Something Gold? He was a famous, but he, he would travel all around LA.
33:05 Speaker 00 Yeah.
33:05 Speaker 02 And go to like mum and pops restaurants.
33:07 Speaker 00 Yeah, was he the LA Times critic or something? I, I know, I know the guy.
33:10 Speaker 02 It's a really good documentary. He'd literally change people's lives. Like meant they could put their kids through uni and stuff because he would give a review of just this tiny hole in the wall. Mexican or Cuban restaurant and, and next, the next week they'd have lines down the block. They'd be swamped.
33:26 Speaker 01 That's great. That must feel really good to be, I, I think probably my favorite part of doing this podcast is when we mention a place and then people come up to us and go. We went there because we heard it on the podcast and that must have been great for that guy. If he's writing those reviews and then seeing that difference being made.
33:39 Speaker 02 But also he really cares. He really knows his foods and knows the questions to ask about the ingredients and.
33:45 Speaker 01 Well, yeah, we know what that's like.
33:50 Speaker 01 Let's start your menu proper now, Gillian. Your, your dream starter.
33:53 Speaker 02 Okay. So my, my, my main is pretty heavy.
33:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
33:58 Speaker 02 So under normal circumstances, I don't think one would have a starter, but.
34:03 Speaker 01 You don't need to.
34:05 Speaker 02 But I'm gonna.
34:06 Speaker 01 Okay.
34:06 Speaker 00 Thank you.
34:07 Speaker 02 So I'm.
34:07 Speaker 00 James, don't try and make me skip starters.
34:10 Speaker 02 I'm gonna have like a pumpkin soup.
34:13 Speaker 00 Love it. Mm.
34:14 Speaker 02 But a pumpkin soup with roasted pumpkin seeds on top.
34:19 Speaker 00 Mm hmm.
34:20 Speaker 01 Delicious.
34:21 Speaker 02 Rose, it makes a really big difference, yeah. And it has to be a little bit creamy, but not too creamy.
34:27 Speaker 00 Yeah.
34:28 Speaker 02 Yeah.
34:28 Speaker 01 Our friend Josh Widdecombe loves soup. We learnt this yesterday, last night. Josh Widdecombe's a comedian.
34:34 Speaker 02 Uh huh, and he loves soup.
34:36 Speaker 01 He loves it and he has it before his gigs. He goes to his tours.
34:40 Speaker 00 Yeah.
34:40 Speaker 01 And he turns up at his tours. What do you think of this? He turns up at his tours and he get, and his tour manager goes and makes him a soup. What do you think about that?
34:49 Speaker 02 Wow.
34:49 Speaker 00 It's all right for some, isn't it?
34:50 Speaker 02 Yeah.
34:51 Speaker 01 Yeah, cause, cause, cause Josh says he's not allowed to use the, uh, the microwaves at the, at the theatres. Because that, that, that's for the staff at the theatre and the tour manager's allowed in that little room. They're like the kitchen room where all the people who work at the theatre.
35:04 Speaker 02 So where does he make him the soup?
35:05 Speaker 01 In the microwave, in that little room, in the little staff room. And Josh has got to sit in his dressing room.
35:09 Speaker 00 The tour manager's allowed to do it, but Josh says he's not allowed to use the microwave. So he just sits in his dressing room, waiting for his soup to be delivered to him.
35:15 Speaker 02 Oh, my goodness.
35:15 Speaker 01 Yeah. He thinks he's not allowed, that's what he's saying.
35:17 Speaker 00 Yeah.
35:17 Speaker 01 But I reckon he is allowed to use the microwave.
35:19 Speaker 02 He's just lazy.
35:20 Speaker 01 Well, yeah.
35:21 Speaker 02 Yeah.
35:21 Speaker 01 He's getting the tour manager.
35:22 Speaker 02 Do you agree that, that there are two types of people in the world? There are soup people and there are people who don't like soup.
35:27 Speaker 00 I think that's it. And it's pretty much fifty fifty, I'd say.
35:30 Speaker 02 Do you think?
35:30 Speaker 00 Yeah, in the world, yeah, down the middle.
35:32 Speaker 02 Some people will go, no, I'm not having a soup.
35:34 Speaker 00 Yeah, no way, I'm not touching a soup.
35:36 Speaker 02 Mm hmm.
35:37 Speaker 01 That's very good for both.
35:38 Speaker 02 Not for me.
35:38 Speaker 01 I tell you what, Ed, no, no slight on you as an actor, cause you were doing it alongside a professional there.
35:43 Speaker 00 Yeah.
35:44 Speaker 01 But that wasn't very convincing for you, but Gillian, I really thought she didn't want her soup. And then I remembered, I know for a fact she does like soup.
35:50 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
35:50 Speaker 01 So that was amazing acting.
35:51 Speaker 00 Gillian's an amazing actor, you know.
35:52 Speaker 01 Straight away, you get the part.
35:53 Speaker 00 I wasn't trying, I'd not had a chance to prep for the casting or anything.
35:56 Speaker 02 Right.
35:57 Speaker 01 Okay, well, you know, use all the excuses you want, but the parts go to Gillian.
36:00 Speaker 00 I'm happy to go on tape, I'm happy to go on tape, but I'm not good in the room.
36:03 Speaker 01 You're not good. I do have to do self tapes. Surely you don't have to do that anymore.
36:08 Speaker 00 Come on.
36:08 Speaker 01 Surely it's been ages since you've had to audition.
36:10 Speaker 02 No, yes, that's correct. I don't genuinely, but if, if it was a fancy, fancy director.
36:15 Speaker 00 Yeah.
36:15 Speaker 02 And they weren't sure if I was right for it, I'd be, I'd be happy to do it as a self tape.
36:19 Speaker 00 So who, who's the top director for you? Who would you go on tape for?
36:22 Speaker 01 Do you have a dream director?
36:23 Speaker 02 Let's say, let's say Paul Thomas Anderson or someone like that.
36:26 Speaker 00 Okay.
36:27 Speaker 02 Where to say, uh, look, I, I really, but I, I don't know whether she can do it or not.
36:30 Speaker 00 We have a character who doesn't like soup.
36:32 Speaker 02 I need to see.
36:33 Speaker 00 Yeah.
36:34 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah.
36:34 Speaker 00 The soup hating character, soup hating lady. You're straight, you're straight on tape for PTA.
36:39 Speaker 01 Yeah, that would be good. That would be good, Magnolia two.
36:42 Speaker 00 Yeah.
36:42 Speaker 01 And one of the, and one of the characters, their storyline is they just don't like soup very much. And then that comes round at the end of frog lands in the soup.
36:50 Speaker 00 It's way less weird this time round.
36:51 Speaker 02 The frog. Remember that kid at the end, he sat behind the desk and said, something like, this happens.
36:59 Speaker 01 Yeah.
36:59 Speaker 02 This happens in life or something like that.
37:01 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. He's thinking about the coincidences and things that happen all the time, yeah.
37:05 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:05 Speaker 01 Goes and tells his dad, you've got to start being nicer to me.
37:08 Speaker 00 I tuned out when the frogs started.
37:10 Speaker 01 Brilliant.
37:10 Speaker 02 Did that lose you?
37:11 Speaker 00 It's ridiculous.
37:12 Speaker 02 Huh.
37:13 Speaker 01 I didn't like it the first time.
37:14 Speaker 02 As opposed to aspects of the rest of the film?
37:16 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, the rest of the film I was on board with.
37:18 Speaker 02 Right, alright.
37:19 Speaker 00 But yeah, as soon as the frog, I was like, this wouldn't happen. No way, Jose.
37:23 Speaker 01 You remember the ages, like, you know, the age we were when that film came out.
37:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:27 Speaker 01 It was like nothing we'd ever seen.
37:29 Speaker 00 Hmm.
37:29 Speaker 01 So like, I remember watching that film and like, loving the beginning so much with that lists all these different coincidences and a bunch of like short stories. And I was so on board and thinking, oh, the ending is going to be like all of those coincidences. And then the ending is it rains frogs. I was like, what? And I was really like, I hadn't seen anything like that before.
37:46 Speaker 02 Yeah.
37:47 Speaker 01 And then the second time I watched it, so I couldn't stop thinking about.
37:50 Speaker 02 Cloudy with a chance of meatballs.
37:52 Speaker 01 It is quite like cloudy with a, I guess nowadays kids.
37:55 Speaker 02 I don't know why.
37:56 Speaker 01 Nowadays, kids would have seen cloudy with a chance of meatballs.
37:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, and they go, this happens.
38:01 Speaker 01 Magnolia, they would be okay with it.
38:02 Speaker 00 Yeah, they would be.
38:03 Speaker 02 But wait, so how old would you have been when you saw?
38:06 Speaker 01 Late teens.
38:07 Speaker 00 Yeah, probably.
38:08 Speaker 02 So what did you think of the whole Tom Cruise character?
38:10 Speaker 01 Oh.
38:11 Speaker 02 Or any of it, actually.
38:12 Speaker 01 I thought that guy's speaking a lot of sense. That's what women are like. No, I, uh. I thought, I mean, it was just like, I was familiar with Tom Cruise already. So I was like, I've never seen Tom Cruise be like this before. I think, yeah, it's a pretty amazing character. So also I hadn't seen many characters that are just out and out clearly wrong for the whole film. But also be painted in the end in a little bit of a sympathetic light in a way. Yeah, I just thought it was a really different character to what I was used to seeing in films.
38:40 Speaker 00 I only remember the frogs really. I don't have as good a memory as James, so I remember the frogs.
38:45 Speaker 01 I've seen this film.
38:45 Speaker 02 But you remember food?
38:47 Speaker 00 I remember, I remember menus and the frogs. Those are the two things I remember. Yeah, I don't know how much.
38:52 Speaker 02 Do you like eating frogs?
38:53 Speaker 00 I have eaten frog's legs in the past.
38:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
38:56 Speaker 00 I think they're fine. I wouldn't go out of my way to get get frog's legs.
38:59 Speaker 02 Right.
39:00 Speaker 00 You know.
39:00 Speaker 02 They taste like chicken.
39:02 Speaker 00 They're chickeny, they're a bit stringy.
39:04 Speaker 02 Stringy.
39:04 Speaker 00 Yeah, a bit stringy, a bit fiddly. I'd say you don't get you don't get a lot of meat on a on a frog leg.
39:09 Speaker 02 No, you wouldn't.
39:09 Speaker 00 No. So I wouldn't, you know, I wouldn't go out of my way. I'd rather have a chicken leg, to be honest.
39:14 Speaker 02 Would you have a lick a frog?
39:16 Speaker 00 I'd lick a frog, sure.
39:17 Speaker 02 Sorry, you know, the the like, the drug, the the drug, the hallucinogenic frogs.
39:23 Speaker 00 I mean, I may as well lick a frog. I'm drinking tap water.
39:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
39:26 Speaker 00 You know, it's all the same thing.
39:28 Speaker 01 Have a frog swimming around in some New York tap water and have a good weekend.
39:31 Speaker 00 Would you lick a frog?
39:33 Speaker 02 I don't know. I don't like hallucinating.
39:36 Speaker 00 Hmm.
39:36 Speaker 01 Hmm. Have you ever hallucinated before?
39:38 Speaker 02 I have. I I I have quite a lot in my younger years, hallucinated, yeah.
39:43 Speaker 01 Love seeing the old quick glance to the pier. For the listener, I'm sat with my back.
39:49 Speaker 02 I want.
39:50 Speaker 01 Okay, I was sat in. So every now and again, I get to see a little.
39:53 Speaker 02 I.
39:54 Speaker 01 I have hallucinated a little glimpse.
39:55 Speaker 02 Yeah.
39:55 Speaker 01 Little little look over.
39:56 Speaker 02 But it's not even nice when it's not on purpose. Like, you can hallucinate on purpose.
40:01 Speaker 01 Yeah.
40:01 Speaker 02 And at least you know that, you know, I'm making a choice to hallucinate.
40:05 Speaker 01 It's coming.
40:05 Speaker 02 Yeah. But then there's sometimes when you hallucinate and it's not on purpose, and that is even freakier.
40:10 Speaker 00 Yeah, I bet. No, I'm not a I'm not a fan of hallucinating. I've never really gone out of my way to try and hallucinate.
40:16 Speaker 02 Yes, you wouldn't lick a frog.
40:18 Speaker 00 I'd lick a frog maybe if it was a controlled environment and the guy who had the frog was like, this is what's gonna happen if you lick the frog.
40:24 Speaker 02 Yeah, and you knew it was a clean frog.
40:26 Speaker 00 Yeah, a clean frog.
40:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
40:28 Speaker 00 But also, like, I'd be constantly worried it was a prank.
40:31 Speaker 02 Right.
40:31 Speaker 00 Like, I was gonna lick the frog and then I go, you can't believe you fucking licked that frog, you idiot.
40:37 Speaker 00 That'd be really bad, wouldn't it?
40:37 Speaker 02 Like, candid camera.
40:38 Speaker 00 Yeah, exactly.
40:39 Speaker 02 Like, all of your friends standing around laughing at you.
40:41 Speaker 00 Yeah, I licked a frog like curtains come up and it's my whole friends and family sat there.
40:45 Speaker 01 But the prank is just that you they got you to lick a frog and then nothing happened to you.
40:48 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
40:49 Speaker 01 So.
40:49 Speaker 00 That's worse. I say licking a frog for no reason is worse than licking a frog for hallucinating.
40:53 Speaker 01 What if you licked a frog and what you hallucinated was the prank show?
40:56 Speaker 00 Oh, my god, that's too much.
40:58 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
40:58 Speaker 00 And that's a film.
40:59 Speaker 01 That's a film, isn't it?
41:01 Speaker 02 I think that's the Truman Show.
41:02 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
41:03 Speaker 01 Oh, what what a film that is.
41:04 Speaker 02 It is a film.
41:05 Speaker 01 If we're talking about, if we're talking great films, the Truman Show.
41:08 Speaker 00 Yeah.
41:09 Speaker 01 Oh, my lord. So good.
41:11 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:11 Speaker 01 I met Natasha McElhulmes. I just, I just stopped talking about the Truman Show during her editing.
41:16 Speaker 00 Yeah.
41:17 Speaker 01 She introduced me to her kids, because her kids thought I was nine out of ten funny.
41:20 Speaker 02 Oh.
41:20 Speaker 01 But like, so I had a photo with her kids and then I saw that as a green light to talk about the Truman Show as much as I wanted.
41:27 Speaker 02 Did she bring her kids when she did the podcast? Because there was such fans.
41:31 Speaker 01 The podcast, it was weirdly, they were there watching. I've only been on the show Have I Got News For You twice.
41:36 Speaker 02 Yeah.
41:36 Speaker 01 But they went to watch Have I Got News For You because she knows somebody who makes it and the kids wanted to come. I don't know if it was because I was on that episode or not, but that, that her kids had.
41:46 Speaker 02 Oh, right.
41:47 Speaker 01 So like, I got to meet them afterwards, but then I definitely, one of those things where, yeah, you're the one that coming up to being, hey, we're fans. And then you go, I love the Truman Show and you talk about it so much. They're like, goodbye. And then that's it. You've blown it. So that's a shame.
42:01 Speaker 02 Do you think she remembers that?
42:02 Speaker 01 I bet her sons remember it. I bet they're like, we were excited to meet him and then it turned out.
42:07 Speaker 00 Total dweeb.
42:07 Speaker 01 He likes the Truman Show.
42:08 Speaker 02 Don't meet your heroes.
42:09 Speaker 01 No, no. I don't think Natasha will remember that. You can ask, do you know her? You're friends?
42:14 Speaker 02 Uh, uh, I, I, I do know her. I, I do know her, but I probably wouldn't.
42:20 Speaker 01 Can you put that sound from earlier on? In this one, please.
42:25 Speaker 02 To say, yes.
42:26 Speaker 00 It's a bit much to open a conversation with.
42:28 Speaker 02 Did you think he was as annoying?
42:31 Speaker 00 And also, would you lick a frog? You've got to finish that.
42:34 Speaker 02 Yeah.
42:34 Speaker 01 Ask McElhulmes, she'd lick a frog.
42:36 Speaker 02 And by the way.
42:44 Speaker 01 Your dream main course thing. You say this is quite substantial.
42:47 Speaker 02 Yeah. Thanksgiving dinner.
42:49 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah, that is substantial.
42:50 Speaker 02 Thanksgiving. Does that count? Am I allowed to do that?
42:52 Speaker 00 Yeah.
42:53 Speaker 01 Of course you're allowed to do that. We haven't had, uh, English guests choose it yet.
42:58 Speaker 02 Right.
42:58 Speaker 00 Have we had an American guest choose Thanksgiving dinner? We've definitely had English guests choose Christmas dinner.
43:04 Speaker 02 Yeah.
43:04 Speaker 00 British Christmas dinner, but I don't think we've had the full Thanksgiving dinner.
43:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
43:08 Speaker 00 So this is great. Let's, let's talk about all the components.
43:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, there's lots of components. You asked about sides. It's all sides.
43:14 Speaker 00 Yeah.
43:14 Speaker 02 And you've got one big bit in the middle and then everything else is a side.
43:18 Speaker 00 Yes.
43:18 Speaker 02 Uh, it's, uh, have you ever had a Thanksgiving dinner?
43:23 Speaker 01 Once, but it's Canadian Thanksgiving.
43:25 Speaker 02 Yeah.
43:26 Speaker 01 So, and it was.
43:27 Speaker 02 Probably quite similar.
43:27 Speaker 01 Definitely the best turkey I've ever had in my entire life.
43:30 Speaker 02 Oh, right.
43:30 Speaker 01 I think about it all the time.
43:31 Speaker 00 I have had Thanksgiving dinner once. But we were filming a TV show and I was pretending to be a member of the royal family, so I didn't really get a chance to enjoy it.
43:39 Speaker 01 Georgie Carlton, it was being Georgie Carlton.
43:41 Speaker 00 Yeah. It was a show called Almost Royal. It was me and Amy Hoggett were pretending to be 50th and 51st in Minds of the Throne and we travelled around America, meeting real people.
43:49 Speaker 01 My Borat.
43:49 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
43:50 Speaker 00 It's like Borat, but, but kind. Um, and we, um, well, we had Thanksgiving dinner with the family in a house in, in Florida.
43:58 Speaker 02 Oh, wow.
43:58 Speaker 00 Um.
43:59 Speaker 02 Did, did they serve you sweet potato, mashed sweet potatoes with marshmallows on top?
44:05 Speaker 00 Yeah.
44:05 Speaker 02 Did they?
44:05 Speaker 00 They did, yeah.
44:07 Speaker 01 Now, I can't picture you eating that, Julie.
44:09 Speaker 02 No, I, that, that's not how.
44:10 Speaker 00 It's crazy.
44:11 Speaker 02 That's not how I make it, but I figured.
44:13 Speaker 00 Yeah.
44:13 Speaker 02 I figured that's what you would have been served.
44:15 Speaker 00 They did, yeah, like grilled and the marshmallow grilled on the top.
44:16 Speaker 02 In that state, yes.
44:18 Speaker 00 Yeah, it was, it's crazy to me.
44:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
44:20 Speaker 00 That, I can't, I can't wrap my head around it, because it's sweet on sweet.
44:23 Speaker 02 It's sweet on sweet, yeah.
44:23 Speaker 00 You take something that's sweet anyway, the sweet potato, hello, clues in the name.
44:27 Speaker 02 But very often people also add maple syrup to sweet potatoes, even though they're sweet.
44:31 Speaker 01 Holy moly, that's a dessert, surely.
44:34 Speaker 00 Yeah.
44:34 Speaker 01 Surely.
44:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, you'd think.
44:35 Speaker 01 So what are you having? What's your dream Thanksgiving dinner? And, think about this.
44:41 Speaker 02 Yeah.
44:42 Speaker 00 Don't point to the guests, James.
44:44 Speaker 01 Who are your, if you, if you, if your dream meal, who's at the table with you?
44:48 Speaker 02 Oh, well, definitely my kids.
44:50 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
44:51 Speaker 02 Definitely, definitely my kids and, uh, and probably the rest of my extended family, mum and dad and sister and her kids and whatnot. And so it usually be a turkey and would be mashed sweet potato.
45:03 Speaker 00 Mm hmm.
45:04 Speaker 02 Maybe a little bit of maple syrup, if it's not sweet, because sometimes they're not sweet. Sometimes, sometimes you mash them up.
45:11 Speaker 00 Yeah.
45:11 Speaker 02 You put a little bit of salt and butter in them and they're not quite sweet enough and you need to add just a teaspoon of maple syrup, just saying.
45:18 Speaker 00 So a little jug, maybe leave a little jug there for people if they wanna sweeten it up even more?
45:22 Speaker 02 No, no, no, I, I take control of that.
45:24 Speaker 00 Oh, sorry, I forgot about the controller again, yeah.
45:28 Speaker 02 Um, also roast potatoes.
45:30 Speaker 00 Uh huh. Is that normal on a, on a Thanksgiving dinner, or is this you bringing a li- a little bit of Britain?
45:34 Speaker 02 I don't know what normal is.
45:36 Speaker 00 Okay.
45:37 Speaker 02 Sorry, I don't.
45:39 Speaker 01 It's good to admit that, yeah.
45:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
45:41 Speaker 01 Not a lot of actors do admit that.
45:42 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah.
45:43 Speaker 02 I don't know what normal is. Um, but so roast potatoes, sometimes in duck fat, but I'm not sure whether I prefer it actually.
45:51 Speaker 00 As compared to.
45:52 Speaker 02 But definitely, well, as opposed to just oil, heating it up, oil beforehand and rosemary and garlic and that.
45:58 Speaker 00 Duck fat feels like it's the special occasion potatoes, right?
46:02 Speaker 02 Yeah, but then does it actually make them any better?
46:05 Speaker 00 I think it does. If you're using duck fat or, there, there I say goose fat.
46:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
46:10 Speaker 00 It feels like they're crispier and they've got that sort of rich luxurious taste to them, I think.
46:16 Speaker 02 Right.
46:17 Speaker 00 But maybe that's all, maybe that's all in my head.
46:19 Speaker 02 But do they, can you, you know how sometimes when you have roast potato?
46:23 Speaker 00 Mm hmm.
46:24 Speaker 02 And it's really crispy?
46:25 Speaker 00 Yeah.
46:25 Speaker 02 Sometimes you taste it and you don't taste the oil. It's just the crispy and then the, the, the hot goopy in the middle. My fear is that duck or goose fat, you only taste the, the, the grease.
46:39 Speaker 00 Yeah, I think that's a good point. I wonder whether that's to do with like the heat of it before you put the potatoes in, whether.
46:45 Speaker 02 Oh.
46:46 Speaker 00 There might be some cooking technique thing that changes that.
46:48 Speaker 02 Oh.
46:49 Speaker 00 So you just get, you just want the crisp and you want the hot goopy in the middle and then that's it.
46:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, you don't want it to be dripping, dripping.
46:54 Speaker 00 Yeah.
46:55 Speaker 02 You can, as long as you don't just taste that.
46:56 Speaker 00 Yeah, you don't want just drippy drippy.
46:58 Speaker 02 No.
46:59 Speaker 00 You want crisp, hot goopy.
47:00 Speaker 02 Very glad we worked this out. Okay.
47:02 Speaker 01 For the listener, Gillian's entire body language went towards Ed there and I was out of the conversation.
47:09 Speaker 00 Gillian trusts me on the roast potato.
47:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. Gillian's got a lot of questions for you.
47:16 Speaker 01 Uh, Gillian, I have a question for you.
47:17 Speaker 02 Yeah.
47:18 Speaker 01 Uh, along with all the guests.
47:19 Speaker 02 Yeah.
47:19 Speaker 01 Uh, just for the dream meal, you can have three of your co-stars at the meal as well.
47:26 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah.
47:26 Speaker 01 Uh, throughout your career.
47:27 Speaker 02 Yeah.
47:28 Speaker 01 What three co-stars would you like?
47:28 Speaker 02 Oh, gosh.
47:29 Speaker 01 At the, at the table for your dream Thanksgiving meal?
47:34 Speaker 01 And this is no shade on anyone who doesn't get picked. Three is a very small number.
47:38 Speaker 00 Yeah.
47:38 Speaker 02 Hannah Iambender, I just worked with.
47:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, right, right.
47:42 Speaker 02 Uh, I would pick her and I'd pro, and I just worked with Greta Lee. I'd probably pick her. And I would pick.
47:54 Speaker 02 Gosh, this is interesting. How about Olivia Colman?
48:00 Speaker 00 Oh, yeah. Wow. What a, what a lineup for Thanksgiving.
48:03 Speaker 02 That's a nice triptych. That'd be a lot of fun.
48:06 Speaker 01 I mean.
48:07 Speaker 00 I wish we had access to the inner monologue where you ran through people and went, no, not them.
48:13 Speaker 02 I actually didn't land on anybody else in between, but, yeah.
48:18 Speaker 01 I mean, those three, fantastic.
48:20 Speaker 00 Yeah. Coleman's gonna be a laugh at Thanksgiving.
48:22 Speaker 01 Coleman is a laugh, man.
48:24 Speaker 02 She is a laugh, yeah.
48:25 Speaker 01 She seems to be a laugh. Like, doesn't seem to take anything too seriously when she's on press tours and stuff, you know what I mean? Like, she's promoting that film, The Roses, at the minute.
48:34 Speaker 02 Yeah.
48:35 Speaker 01 Her and Cumberbatch are just going around having a right jolly.
48:38 Speaker 02 That's good.
48:39 Speaker 01 I've become, I've become hooked on all the, I, I'll be, I'm, I'll watch YouTube too much, Gillian.
48:44 Speaker 02 Do you?
48:44 Speaker 01 Like, it's a problem.
48:45 Speaker 02 That doesn't surprise me.
48:46 Speaker 01 Trying to put it down, yeah, well. And like, I just got so into watching the two of them talk about The Roses. I don't think I'm ever gonna see The Roses.
48:54 Speaker 00 No, no, no.
48:55 Speaker 01 But like, absolutely just love watching the two of them trying to guess each other's films, guess lines from that film.
48:59 Speaker 02 How long are your halls?
49:01 Speaker 01 Pardon me?
49:04 Speaker 02 When you go down a.
49:05 Speaker 01 The kind of question.
49:06 Speaker 00 Yeah, I know exactly what you mean, Gillian, but let's, let's have fun with what it sounded like.
49:10 Speaker 02 Are you, are you too, Brabham Hall? How long? Do you, do you wake up after how long and go, oh my god?
49:16 Speaker 01 I mean.
49:17 Speaker 02 There's my afternoon.
49:18 Speaker 01 Yeah, I don't know, you know, but like, my screen time updates are getting longer and longer. But, you know, each week it goes, you did, you averaged this much today. And it's like.
49:28 Speaker 00 Are you watching on your phone?
49:29 Speaker 01 Yeah.
49:30 Speaker 00 Oh, right. See, I'm, I'm, I also watch a lot of YouTube, but I'll only watch on the laptop. Phone's screen too small for me to watch things on.
49:36 Speaker 02 Oh.
49:36 Speaker 00 Yeah.
49:37 Speaker 01 No, I'm just, I'm just on it too much. I, I, I, I got absolutely addicted to watching videos of Dave Franco and Alison Brie talking about their relationship.
49:46 Speaker 01 Just, just, eh, eh, cause there's so many different formats on all these different YouTube channels.
49:50 Speaker 02 And what does that do to your relationship?
49:53 Speaker 01 I think it, I, I, I think it makes it all, I don't know, maybe, but I, I, I don't go back and go, you pretend to be, you're Alison, I'm Dave.
49:59 Speaker 00 Yeah.
50:00 Speaker 01 But if it's like that, but like, I don't compare, I, I think maybe I relate to their relationship, that's why I like watching it, I'm like, that's like us.
50:06 Speaker 00 Well, cause Dave Franco watches eight hours of YouTube a day.
50:09 Speaker 01 Yeah, he just watches eight hours of YouTube and Alison Brie's worried about him and fancies Gillian Anderson.
50:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, I mean, they, they talk about their cats quite a bit, I think we've got cats.
50:21 Speaker 02 Right.
50:21 Speaker 01 Um, and I, I just like the way that they talk about.
50:25 Speaker 02 Oh, they cracked him up.
50:26 Speaker 01 How they met, because it's so ridiculous.
50:28 Speaker 00 He's laughing, imagining, watching the videos. He's really.
50:32 Speaker 02 Totally admitted.
50:34 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, I, I, I, I just say, yeah, I think, I think they seem like good people.
50:38 Speaker 02 All right.
50:39 Speaker 01 I, I like watching them thinking, are they, they seem like good people, actually.
50:41 Speaker 00 You're too deep into this YouTube thing, man.
50:43 Speaker 02 Have you ever met them?
50:44 Speaker 01 No, and I can't, I can't now.
50:46 Speaker 00 Well, we can't have them on the podcast now, cause anyone who is listening who represents them for PR stuff.
50:51 Speaker 02 Yeah, I don't say no, it's a stalker.
50:53 Speaker 00 Yeah.
50:53 Speaker 01 Yeah, creepy boy.
50:54 Speaker 02 Keep them away.
50:55 Speaker 00 Yeah.
50:55 Speaker 01 Yeah.
50:56 Speaker 00 Even if they came on together, that would be the worst, actually, if they came on together, yeah.
50:59 Speaker 01 That'd be the worst, I'd know too much about their lives, how they met, how they feel about each other, it would be bad.
51:05 Speaker 00 Even though she's called Alison Brie, which is perfect for a podcast about food.
51:07 Speaker 01 Oh my god.
51:08 Speaker 02 Do you know Mr. And Mrs. Where you fill in the, yeah.
51:10 Speaker 01 They did that, I've, I've watched them do that.
51:11 Speaker 02 Oh, they did, oh, I, I was gonna say, you could probably answer the question.
51:14 Speaker 00 You could do Mr. And Mrs. for her, look at that.
51:16 Speaker 01 Mr. And Mrs. and the creep.
51:18 Speaker 00 Yeah.
51:19 Speaker 01 And what does the creep say?
51:22 Speaker 00 The creep's a full mask.
51:23 Speaker 02 He'd be like a ventriloquist, dummy.
51:25 Speaker 00 Yeah.
51:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, but you proposed while wearing a mask.
51:29 Speaker 00 Really?
51:30 Speaker 01 Yeah, he did, he wore a mask that, uh, he'd kept from when they went to New Orleans together, they met in New Orleans.
51:35 Speaker 02 Oh, he's fucking scary, it's really freaky, oh, thank Jesus Christ.
51:39 Speaker 01 And then she was wearing like a mask at New Orleans and then he, he kept that mask and when he proposed to her, he was wearing it and, uh, she didn't, she didn't like it. She didn't think it was a great idea that he proposed like that, but appreciates where his heart, his heart was in the right place.
51:53 Speaker 00 I didn't hear a single thing you said there. No? No, no, I was like, I can't listen to this. I've got to be friends, I've got to be friends with this guy.
52:02 Speaker 00 Um, I think it's cool that I know that. Yeah, yeah. I think that one day is going to be played in a court. Yeah. Yeah. It will. So can we talk through the rest of the components? You've got, you've got turkey.
52:13 Speaker 02 Yes.
52:14 Speaker 00 You've got sweet potatoes, mashed sweet potatoes with a little bit of maple syrup.
52:17 Speaker 02 A little bit.
52:18 Speaker 00 You've got roast potatoes.
52:19 Speaker 02 And with butter and salt, that's all you really need, yeah.
52:21 Speaker 00 And what, and what else is on there?
52:23 Speaker 02 Uh, I usually make Brussels sprouts, like a, a Jamie Oliver recipe with bacon and chestnuts, I think. But I don't really like them, but I make them anyway.
52:34 Speaker 00 Oh. Okay. Yeah, like Brussels sprouts in general? Or you don't like Jamie Oliver's Brussels sprouts?
52:40 Speaker 02 No, I don't like the, I don't like them really in general, but I make them because you're meant to.
52:45 Speaker 00 Mm-hmm.
52:45 Speaker 02 And, and they're meant to be good for you, and if you've only got a couple of green things and usually green beans as well.
52:52 Speaker 00 Yeah, nice.
52:52 Speaker 02 Yeah, then there's a couple of dishes that are, uh, that we've always had, family dishes.
52:58 Speaker 00 Mm-hmm.
52:58 Speaker 02 Like a pearl onion, pearl onion gratin.
53:02 Speaker 00 Lovely.
53:03 Speaker 02 Which is almost like a cauliflower cheese, but with, with pearl onions. Yeah. It's really yummy and it's got, um, crumbled breadcrumbs on the top and it's really delicious.
53:14 Speaker 00 That's not good for the gut, though.
53:16 Speaker 02 And there's.
53:17 Speaker 00 Ed, please. It's Thanksgiving. Thanksgiving is the time where you give thanks for your guts by demonstrating them, right?
53:23 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
53:25 Speaker 00 Yeah, for sure.
53:26 Speaker 02 And then there's another one, and I, I have, I have to say, I've already mentioned this on a food podcast, but it's just.
53:32 Speaker 00 What, what other food podcast? There's no other food podcast. What are you talking about?
53:36 Speaker 02 No, on Jessie Ware's food podcast, I talked about, I talked about.
53:41 Speaker 00 I'm gonna puke.
53:41 Speaker 02 I talked about this dish, but it's a truism and I can't think of Thanksgiving without talking about this dish, so I'm gonna bring it up.
53:49 Speaker 00 Okay. And let's see if we, the way we react is gonna be way better than the way Jessie and Lenny Ware react. Yeah, here we go. This is gonna be good stuff. We're getting ready for this now. Here we go.
53:59 Speaker 02 All right, so you've gotten paler.
54:03 Speaker 01 That's, that's something. I, I, I, I went to the Isle of Mull recently off of Scotland and we wanted to see wild ponies and there was a, a lady who could show us where the wild ponies were and she was walking up the hill with us and she said, what do you, you do for a job? And I said, I'm a stand-up comedian. She went, that's why you're so pale. You're just doing, locked up in all the clubs your whole life.
54:24 Speaker 02 Right.
54:25 Speaker 00 And you're like, no, it's because I spend all day watching Alison Brie on YouTube.
54:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, that, that's why actually. Thank you.
54:32 Speaker 00 Did you see the ponies?
54:33 Speaker 01 Yeah, we saw the ponies. It was great.
54:35 Speaker 00 Yeah.
54:35 Speaker 02 He is a little bit like a ventriloquist dummy, isn't he?
54:38 Speaker 00 The way he's sat up now.
54:40 Speaker 02 Yeah.
54:40 Speaker 01 Not unlike.
54:41 Speaker 02 And the way you're.
54:42 Speaker 01 Yeah, absolute, very good.
54:43 Speaker 00 Yeah.
54:44 Speaker 01 Very good impression straight away. Yeah, this is.
54:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
54:48 Speaker 01 The master at work.
54:49 Speaker 00 That's the clip. Benito, we've got the clip.
54:51 Speaker 01 That's the quickest anyone's done.
54:53 Speaker 02 No, it's really interesting. It's fascinating. I don't think I've ever met a live ventriloquist dummy before.
54:59 Speaker 01 You met Jimmy Carr? Haven't you?
55:02 Speaker 02 I have met Jimmy Carr. You're right. So I take it back. Yeah.
55:05 Speaker 00 Surely that was an X-File.
55:07 Speaker 02 Jimmy Carr?
55:09 Speaker 01 Yeah, if only.
55:10 Speaker 02 Popping out of a grave.
55:11 Speaker 01 If only, if, if only he was just an X-File and that was all he was. That would explain everything.
55:16 Speaker 02 Oh, you mean a ventriloquist? I think we did have a ventriloquist dummy episode.
55:21 Speaker 00 Yeah, I'm sure you do. You must have done. How many episodes did you do? There must have been a ventriloquist.
55:26 Speaker 02 Two hundred and eleven or something. Yeah.
55:28 Speaker 01 What's the one that gets brought up to you the most? Cause I'll tell you the one that everyone, that I've heard everyone say the most who like watches X-Files and then like.
55:35 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah. Go on, which?
55:36 Speaker 01 They're like the scariest one. They're like, I could never sit on the toilet again because of that, that big worm.
55:39 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah. Oh, the one, the fluke worm or whatever. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
55:44 Speaker 01 That's scary.
55:45 Speaker 00 Tombs surely. Tombs gets brought up.
55:46 Speaker 02 And tombs, tombs. Yeah.
55:48 Speaker 01 Yeah. What, what one did you find most scary and like to film? Like when you're actually.
55:51 Speaker 02 Probably the Jimmy Carr episode.
55:55 Speaker 01 Coming out, huh, ah, oh. Out of the toilet, coming out the toilet like that. Oh no, here he comes. Sorry, Gillian, we had asked you something else and we asked you another question and we kept on pivoting. What was the original question?
56:07 Speaker 02 The side dish.
56:10 Speaker 01 Were you actually asking dream side?
56:11 Speaker 02 No, no, it was the, no, we're not, we're not at sides yet.
56:15 Speaker 00 We were at the side dish that also came up on, uh, table manners.
56:18 Speaker 02 That's what it was.
56:20 Speaker 00 And we were getting ready to react in a great way.
56:21 Speaker 01 Jesus Christ.
56:21 Speaker 00 But unfortunately, we've just proved we are much worse podcast hosts than Jesse and Lenny.
56:24 Speaker 01 Yes, I'm sure they didn't do that.
56:25 Speaker 00 Yeah.
56:26 Speaker 01 Go off on a Jimmy Carr tangent. Okay, tell us, watch this.
56:31 Speaker 02 Okay, all right, concentrate.
56:33 Speaker 00 Yeah.
56:33 Speaker 02 Okay, so it's, it's called, it's, we call it green glass jello.
56:39 Speaker 01 Hmm, hmm, interesting.
56:41 Speaker 02 And it's a sweet dish, but you have it on the plate, actually, with everything else.
56:45 Speaker 00 Yes.
56:46 Speaker 02 And it's got chunks of pineapple, it's got lime jello.
56:52 Speaker 01 Hmm.
56:52 Speaker 02 Cream cheese, layered.
56:55 Speaker 00 Right.
56:56 Speaker 02 Chunks of pineapple.
56:57 Speaker 00 Yeah.
56:58 Speaker 02 Like crushed pineapple.
56:59 Speaker 00 Yeah.
56:59 Speaker 02 I think it might even have a lemon jello too. It's got all, it's got different striations.
57:05 Speaker 00 Hmm, mhm.
57:06 Speaker 02 It's delicious.
57:07 Speaker 00 When you spoke to Jesse and Lenny Ware about this, what was their, what was their reaction to that?
57:12 Speaker 02 I can't remember.
57:14 Speaker 01 Was it?
57:14 Speaker 02 I can't, no, you'll take it very seriously and I really appreciate it.
57:17 Speaker 01 We're taking it very, very.
57:18 Speaker 02 You are.
57:19 Speaker 00 Can I tell you my initial instinct?
57:21 Speaker 01 Hmm, I think mine's gonna be identical.
57:23 Speaker 00 Gillian, that sounds absolutely fucking disgusting.
57:25 Speaker 02 I know, ev- ev- everybody thinks, even my children think it's disgusting and why are we making this another year in a row? And I'm the only person who eats it.
57:34 Speaker 01 Ah, okay.
57:34 Speaker 02 But it's, you know, it's, it's, um, ingrained in my childhood DNA.
57:39 Speaker 01 Did someone make this for you as a child?
57:42 Speaker 02 Yes, yeah, it was a family recipe, yeah.
57:45 Speaker 00 Yeah, that's, I mean, it, it really sounds like a family recipe.
57:48 Speaker 02 Yeah, it does. It fa- it sounds like a family recipe from the Midwest of America.
57:54 Speaker 00 Truly.
57:54 Speaker 02 It sounds like, yeah.
57:56 Speaker 01 Wow.
57:56 Speaker 02 And, and it is.
57:57 Speaker 01 How many generations was this passed down, like?
58:00 Speaker 02 I don't know.
58:01 Speaker 00 It sounds like something they call salad in the Midwest of America.
58:04 Speaker 02 Uh, yeah, no, you're right, and, and it'd be on a, on, um, iceberg lettuce.
58:09 Speaker 00 Yeah, put it on there and call it, call it green, green salad.
58:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, that's my vegetable.
58:14 Speaker 00 Yeah.
58:16 Speaker 01 How much are you eating of it? When, when, if you're the only one that touches it, how much are you eating to make it like justify having made it?
58:23 Speaker 02 A nice dollop.
58:24 Speaker 01 A hockey puck.
58:25 Speaker 02 Yeah, there might be one other per, I mean, if my parents are over.
58:28 Speaker 01 Mm hmm.
58:29 Speaker 02 You know, they will also have some. It's just my, my three kids, so.
58:33 Speaker 01 And it's going on the plate with the savoury ingredients?
58:36 Speaker 02 Yeah.
58:37 Speaker 01 And is it like, so does it get like gravy on it by accident and stuff? Does it like touch? And that, and that's good? Yeah?
58:43 Speaker 02 It is, yeah. It is, it's good. Cause also on there are two different kinds of stuffings.
58:49 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
58:50 Speaker 02 There's another family recipe which is a, a, um, what's it called? A.
58:55 Speaker 01 Chocolate and porridge, probably not your family.
58:58 Speaker 01 He's done you.
58:58 Speaker 02 No, it's a, um, where is it? Just got out of my head. It's a, uh, cornbread stuffing.
59:04 Speaker 01 Oh, nice. Yeah.
59:05 Speaker 02 Cornbread stuffing. My mum makes a rocking cornbread stuffing, which I, I make. And, and then I also will do one, uh, with sausage meat.
59:14 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. See, that's great.
59:16 Speaker 02 Like sage, sage and apricot sausage meat stuffing.
59:19 Speaker 01 Really delicious. Absolutely love stuffing. But next to jelly? I don't know.
59:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
59:24 Speaker 01 It's, are you worried that, I mean, what's it called? The jelly side? Does it have a name?
59:29 Speaker 02 Well, we, we call it green glass jello, but only because a green glass vintage bowl fell and it broke into the jelly.
59:38 Speaker 01 Nice. Into the jelly?
59:40 Speaker 02 Yeah, it was on top of, somebody put it on top of the fridge. I opened the fridge and the whole thing. So from that point on, they called it green glass jello. They didn't eat it.
59:47 Speaker 01 Okay.
59:47 Speaker 02 They're just, yeah.
59:48 Speaker 01 I like that. I like that. The name comes from something that happened in a family. Yeah. Cause it's a family recipe.
59:53 Speaker 02 Yeah.
59:54 Speaker 01 Are you worried that the green glass jello tradition is going to stop now because your kids won't eat it? So no one's going to carry it on?
1:00:00 Speaker 02 It hasn't occurred to me, but I have a sister.
1:00:04 Speaker 01 And she, and she likes it.
1:00:05 Speaker 02 And she has kids.
1:00:06 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:00:07 Speaker 02 And she likes, and she will pass it on.
1:00:09 Speaker 01 Her kids like it?
1:00:10 Speaker 02 I, well, probably it's like pudding, right? It's probably like, yeah.
1:00:13 Speaker 01 Your kids don't like it.
1:00:14 Speaker 02 Yeah, but mine are, are late teens.
1:00:17 Speaker 01 Oh, so maybe they're.
1:00:17 Speaker 02 And they're British rather than, than, and my sister's kids are American and I can imagine the American kids. Being used to.
1:00:25 Speaker 00 Yeah. The British kids aren't going for that. And they're rebelling against. As disgusting as I think it sounds. Yeah. Me and my brother and sister would have wolfed that down. Well, no. No, you'd have to wrestle it off your dad. Yeah, yeah.
1:00:38 Speaker 02 But when you have turkey, when you have turkey, do you have like cranberry jelly?
1:00:42 Speaker 00 No. I can do.
1:00:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:00:44 Speaker 00 Yeah, I have, I guess it's the same sort of principle, isn't it?
1:00:47 Speaker 02 Sort of principle, yeah.
1:00:49 Speaker 00 But you only have a little bit of the cranberry jelly, right?
1:00:55 Speaker 02 No. Or, or like a schnitzel, when you have a schnitzel, do you have the lindenberry jam and stuff? And that's, that's chicken, that's it. You know, it's like turkey, it's chicken. It's the same.
1:01:07 Speaker 00 So that's your main course and all your sides. So we get on to your.
1:01:10 Speaker 02 Wait, is that everything? Hang on, let me think. Okay, got a bit of green, yeah. Bit of orange, bit of white.
1:01:16 Speaker 00 This is how you remember things. The Irish flag.
1:01:20 Speaker 02 Or Italian. Um, but, uh, no.
1:01:25 Speaker 00 Orange, not orange. Bread, I think, yeah.
1:01:29 Speaker 02 Bit of bread and the cranberries all. Um, there is, uh, wait, there's something else, there's something else, there's something else. Oh, well, the gravy. Gravy is very important.
1:01:38 Speaker 00 Yeah. Now, let's talk about when I say, when I say gravy as a British person, very different to what Americans might call gravy.
1:01:45 Speaker 02 What do you call gravy?
1:01:46 Speaker 00 Well, sometimes American gravy is like quite thick, like it's very thick flour based.
1:01:51 Speaker 02 Uh huh.
1:01:52 Speaker 00 Like a sausage gravy, it might be like a white, thick, creamy sauce.
1:01:55 Speaker 02 Mm hmm.
1:01:56 Speaker 00 But are you thinking of more like a thinner meats jus sort of situation?
1:02:00 Speaker 02 A meat jus situation.
1:02:02 Speaker 00 Yeah, yeah, yeah, nice.
1:02:02 Speaker 02 And you're thickening it up with a bit of flour, but it's not.
1:02:05 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:02:05 Speaker 02 Flour based, it's not like a bread sauce.
1:02:07 Speaker 00 Yeah, you're not spooning it on or anything, no.
1:02:10 Speaker 02 But a bit of red wine in there.
1:02:11 Speaker 00 Yeah, nice.
1:02:11 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:02:12 Speaker 00 Love a gravy. So important, isn't it?
1:02:14 Speaker 02 Love a gravy too, yeah.
1:02:16 Speaker 00 So important to really bring the jelly to life.
1:02:24 Speaker 01 Your dream drink, I wonder what this could be?
1:02:28 Speaker 02 Uh.
1:02:28 Speaker 01 Were you waiting, that you left that pause because they were drinking?
1:02:31 Speaker 00 I was taking a sip of water.
1:02:33 Speaker 02 But that could have been a G-Spot you were drinking.
1:02:35 Speaker 00 It could have been, I'm happy to have a sip of G-Spot.
1:02:37 Speaker 02 No, go on. Have you tasted it yet? Mm-hmm. Uh.
1:02:40 Speaker 00 I really like it.
1:02:41 Speaker 02 Well, you have to say that, don't you?
1:02:42 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:02:43 Speaker 00 Yes, I do, but also I do.
1:02:44 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:02:45 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:02:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:02:46 Speaker 00 Because it's a sparkling functional drink.
1:02:47 Speaker 02 Yeah, it is.
1:02:48 Speaker 00 Yeah, and it's given me a lift.
1:02:50 Speaker 02 Yeah, it will, it really will.
1:02:52 Speaker 00 This one's red berries and sar- and sarawak.
1:02:54 Speaker 02 Yeah, you should know what sarawak is.
1:02:56 Speaker 00 Should I?
1:02:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:02:57 Speaker 00 I've got absolutely no idea what sarawak is.
1:02:59 Speaker 01 Ah, come on, man.
1:03:00 Speaker 02 You're fired.
1:03:02 Speaker 01 He wrote, uh, what was the book, what was the, what was the main book he wrote? Everyone goes on about it.
1:03:07 Speaker 00 Well, the thing is that for the joke to land, you do have to remember what the book is, so we can work out what you're talking about.
1:03:13 Speaker 02 Who wrote a book about sarawak?
1:03:14 Speaker 01 Sarawak wrote all those books.
1:03:16 Speaker 02 You mean Carrawak?
1:03:17 Speaker 01 Oh, sorry.
1:03:18 Speaker 00 There we go.
1:03:18 Speaker 01 I didn't expect that. Big thing about that.
1:03:20 Speaker 00 If you said on the road, we would have got that.
1:03:22 Speaker 01 I knew it had the word road in it and I was thinking, yeah.
1:03:26 Speaker 00 See, that's what I'm, I like the.
1:03:27 Speaker 02 Jack, sarawak.
1:03:28 Speaker 00 The herbaceousness of this, and of course, sarawak is a, is a black pepper.
1:03:33 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:03:33 Speaker 00 Yeah, I've just remembered that, says on the card.
1:03:36 Speaker 02 And this one that I'm drinking is, uh, scarlet apple and sage, but the, the functional ingredients are, uh, things like mushrooms. You know, like ashwagandha, chaga.
1:03:45 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:03:46 Speaker 02 Raisi, cordyceps, that kind of, do you ever take those in in any form, way, shape or form?
1:03:51 Speaker 00 No, cordyceps scare me now because of The Last of Us.
1:03:55 Speaker 02 Are they, are there cordyceps in The Last of Us?
1:03:58 Speaker 00 Yeah, that's what, that's what, that's what, that's what grows out of everyone when they turn into really scary mushroom zombies.
1:04:04 Speaker 02 Oh, wow, I did, I did not know that.
1:04:06 Speaker 01 Last thing that you need being brought up when talking about your drink.
1:04:08 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:04:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:04:09 Speaker 00 Because imagine if G-Spot was the start of a zombie apocalypse.
1:04:12 Speaker 01 Oh, my God.
1:04:13 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:04:13 Speaker 01 You'd have a lot, there'd be a lot of blame at your door.
1:04:15 Speaker 00 Yeah. Especially the zombies have drunk aroused.
1:04:18 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, oh, God.
1:04:20 Speaker 00 That's the last thing we want.
1:04:21 Speaker 01 Good Lord, that's a completely different show. How did this start? How did like?
1:04:25 Speaker 02 Drinks.
1:04:26 Speaker 01 How did you, you know, did you think one day I'd like to start a drinks company?
1:04:30 Speaker 02 No, never.
1:04:30 Speaker 01 Or were you were getting interested in like all these different mushrooms?
1:04:34 Speaker 02 Somebody, somebody in my life, my uh son in law brought it, uh uh came up with the idea of me doing a drink, which I had no interest in doing at all. But I was addicted to full fat Coke. I drank about five of those a day. And so the idea of finding something or creating something.
1:04:53 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:04:53 Speaker 02 That um that I might turn to instead of it, that was uh also good for me. And initially, starting with the lift, um something that would actually give me the energy that I was after. All the drinks are are caffeine free, vegan, uh low sugar, all natural. And um and so creating something that I might actually become as addicted to as I was to the Coca Cola.
1:05:17 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:05:18 Speaker 02 Uh and we've done that. We're actually really, really proud of the flavours. We work with a fantastic uh alchemist called uh Alchemist Company.
1:05:27 Speaker 01 Uh huh.
1:05:28 Speaker 02 In Eastonstead and he did Seedlip, do you know the?
1:05:32 Speaker 01 Yeah, yes.
1:05:33 Speaker 02 So works with botanicals and really mature nuanced flavours and anyway, we're we're very happy with them. And under normal circumstances, wouldn't necessarily have chosen to do a drink. But the whole branding around the drink feels very uh appropriate, given stuff that I've been doing over the last few years. Sex education and a book I did of women's sexual fantasies, anonymous sexual fantasies. But the drink is actually not, uh it it's G-spot was chosen as much as anything because my name begins with a G.
1:06:10 Speaker 01 Yeah, it's not a sex drink is what.
1:06:11 Speaker 02 It's not a sex drink, even though we have an aroused, um it's not.
1:06:15 Speaker 01 Doesn't sound not sexual. It's called G-spot.
1:06:18 Speaker 02 No, but you, you know, you, you, you, what's your G-spot? What's, what's the place where you find pleasure and it can be in the drink? In, you can find pleasure in in what you drink.
1:06:30 Speaker 01 If it turns out my G-spot's in a drink, it's gonna be mad.
1:06:34 Speaker 01 Um uh much easier time for everyone. Yeah. Involved, I think, if you just hand them a can. Yeah. So just shake that up a bit. I'll be, I'll be good as gold.
1:06:43 Speaker 00 Could be in the next room.
1:06:45 Speaker 01 Yeah, thanks very much.
1:06:47 Speaker 00 But it is delicious, it is delicious.
1:06:49 Speaker 02 Thank you, thank you, thank you very much.
1:06:50 Speaker 00 It's very, very nice. I really like the herbs in this one, the juniper and coriander, very nice.
1:06:53 Speaker 02 Thank you very much. We're in Ocado and lots of places, Sainsbury's, Ocado, Harvey Nix.
1:06:59 Speaker 01 Harvey Nix.
1:07:00 Speaker 02 Harvey Nix.
1:07:02 Speaker 01 That's pretty cool. And do you need like, you know, two guys for the advert? We could be in an advert.
1:07:07 Speaker 02 Yeah, you could.
1:07:08 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:07:08 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:07:09 Speaker 00 What sort of thing do you think we should do for the advert for G-Spot?
1:07:11 Speaker 02 Um, I think you could say we finally found it.
1:07:16 Speaker 00 Yeah. Yeah, that's good. It could be us looking for it in a supermarket or something.
1:07:20 Speaker 02 Yeah, or in the bushes.
1:07:21 Speaker 00 Yeah, in the bushes.
1:07:23 Speaker 01 Ben made that joke this morning. He came in and said, uh, I couldn't find, he had a bunch of G-Spot. He said, I couldn't find this for a while.
1:07:30 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:07:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:07:31 Speaker 01 Good little joke for it.
1:07:32 Speaker 00 So it's just me, me and James in the bushes.
1:07:34 Speaker 02 You and James in the bushes looking for your G-Spot.
1:07:37 Speaker 01 Me and him in the bushes drinking G-Spot?
1:07:38 Speaker 00 And then we pop out and our hair's all messed up and then we go, we found the G-Spot and then we hold up the cans, yeah.
1:07:44 Speaker 02 Sounds good to me.
1:07:45 Speaker 00 That's the sort of classy advertising you need for your product, isn't it?
1:07:48 Speaker 02 Perfect.
1:07:49 Speaker 01 When you were writing the book and you're getting all the, so you got a load of fantasies sent to you, but they're anonymous.
1:07:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:07:55 Speaker 01 How do you go about choosing which ones get in the book? Were there some that didn't make the book that you felt bad for those people that they're?
1:08:00 Speaker 00 James, I've told you to not bring this up. I know you're gutted that yours didn't make it.
1:08:04 Speaker 01 Listen, I think it was a good fantasy about Dave and Alison Brie. Dave Franco, Alison Brie, all they wanted, the fantasy was just them talking about their life, fully clothed. That's the fantasy. I actually, why you didn't involve that in the book?
1:08:17 Speaker 00 James, you said you wouldn't bring this up.
1:08:19 Speaker 01 I just want to hear them talking to each other about their love. That's a good fantasy.
1:08:23 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:08:24 Speaker 01 And the fact you didn't put it in.
1:08:25 Speaker 02 He is, he's like a ventriloquist.
1:08:27 Speaker 00 Yeah, he is. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But no, I don't think any performer would make their dummy say what James says.
1:08:33 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:08:34 Speaker 00 He's a possessed one. He's got ideas above his station.
1:08:37 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. One of the ones that, if there was a ventriloquist, you know, end up back in the bag.
1:08:41 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:08:42 Speaker 01 Pretty quickly, not for saying anything, you know, un-PC or anything, just for just doing their edit.
1:08:47 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:08:48 Speaker 01 Getting back in the bag. Stop asking me stupid questions like that. Talk to me like a person.
1:08:52 Speaker 00 What was the original question for Gillian James? I can't remember now.
1:08:55 Speaker 01 Anything you felt bad about not putting in that book?
1:08:57 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:08:57 Speaker 02 Oh, uh, not bad, no, no. Uh, it took a while to go through all the letters. And and we've got a second book, actually, that we're compiling letters from, uh, as we speak. But it's it's part of the the uh modus operandi was asking women from as many places around the world as possible. So it felt like the book was re- representative of all voices. And so sometimes it would make a decision, it would be making a decision for a letter that was representative from a uh, a country, uh, or a city, that it may not have been the better letter, so to speak,
1:09:38 Speaker 02 but it felt like the experience or the the the writing, because of where the writer came from, was that that was the more important decision to make than that.
1:09:47 Speaker 00 Did you notice geographical trends with the sorts of fantasies?
1:09:53 Speaker 01 And is there anywhere in the world where they specifically have fantasies about podcast hosts who talk about food?
1:10:00 Speaker 02 Uh, not podcast hosts, but there are some around food. Fantasies around making food or partner making food during sex or after sex.
1:10:11 Speaker 00 Oh, there is sex involved. It's not just my fantasies, my partner cooks me something. So that'd be the saddest letter.
1:10:16 Speaker 02 No, but there is. Yeah, yeah. Or or, you know, does laundry, empties the dishwasher. You know, that kind of stuff, which is interesting.
1:10:27 Speaker 00 Yeah, so easy to make that person's fantasy come true.
1:10:30 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah. Geographically similar. No, I mean, I think on the whole, probably the ones that were more explicit came from the West. You know, very what what I found fascinating was, you know, the little bits and pieces that you get of slice of life stories, because they don't want to reveal too much, because they're anonymous, they're not gonna, you know, but the little bits that you do get from the women's lives, um, and their relationship or the their religion or the culture that does or does not allow them to, you know, how scared they are that they're even putting it, um, down on paper, so to speak. And, oh, that's really interesting.
1:11:16 Speaker 01 Well, that leads us nicely on to your dream dessert.
1:11:19 Speaker 02 It does, you're right.
1:11:20 Speaker 01 Perfect, yes.
1:11:21 Speaker 02 Perfect, perfect. Bread pudding.
1:11:24 Speaker 01 Great.
1:11:24 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:11:25 Speaker 02 Really eggy.
1:11:26 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:11:27 Speaker 02 Made with, uh, panettone.
1:11:30 Speaker 01 Yes, this is great.
1:11:31 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:11:32 Speaker 02 With custard.
1:11:33 Speaker 01 Brilliant.
1:11:33 Speaker 00 Absolutely delicious.
1:11:35 Speaker 02 Heaven.
1:11:35 Speaker 01 Hot custard, cold custard?
1:11:37 Speaker 02 Hot custard.
1:11:39 Speaker 01 This sounds great. This is exactly the kind of thing I like. I mean, quite Christmas puddingy when made with panettone as well, has that?
1:11:45 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:11:46 Speaker 00 It's got that seasonal taste to it, hasn't it?
1:11:48 Speaker 02 Yeah, it does, yeah.
1:11:49 Speaker 01 And when would you have that? Do you have this after Thanksgiving dinner?
1:11:53 Speaker 02 No, and in fact, it's been a really long time since I've had a bread pudding at all. And when I realised that that is what my, uh, desire would be, I thought, I need to have it more often.
1:12:05 Speaker 00 Yeah, this is what, this is the service we aim to provide on this podcast. To make people realise that they want bread pudding.
1:12:11 Speaker 02 Have you ever thought about, have you ever thought about actually making the food or having somebody make the food that the people have on? And then having people back again and serving it to them?
1:12:20 Speaker 01 We have thought about it because it gets suggested all the time, so we've had to think about it.
1:12:24 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:12:25 Speaker 01 But every time you've thought about it for a split second and gone, no.
1:12:27 Speaker 02 What a bad idea.
1:12:28 Speaker 01 We're not doing that.
1:12:29 Speaker 00 Lot of work.
1:12:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:12:30 Speaker 01 And, and who gives a shit? Like, uh, uh, uh, only you would enjoy it. If we made your meal for you, as in, as in the guest, as in the guest, not just you.
1:12:40 Speaker 02 Oh, what if, what if the guest made it and brought it in for you?
1:12:44 Speaker 01 Sometimes that's happened and that's very nice for us.
1:12:46 Speaker 02 And then tried to get you to like it.
1:12:47 Speaker 01 Again, that's nice for us, but the listeners don't care.
1:12:49 Speaker 00 I'd say in an audio format podcast, the last thing people like is when everyone's eating on mic. I'd say that's, that's definitely an issue. People get really upset by that.
1:12:58 Speaker 02 Where are you imbalanced in your lives?
1:13:00 Speaker 00 Good question.
1:13:01 Speaker 01 What, me?
1:13:02 Speaker 02 Well, we know your answers. I don't want to hear it again. Please, I don't want to hear it again.
1:13:08 Speaker 00 Where am I imbalanced in my life? Maybe work, uh, work and relaxation. I'd, you know, I'd, I, I'd go hard on one or the other. And then absolutely hate that I'm doing it. So it'd be nice to find more balance in that, but other than that, I feel pretty balanced.
1:13:24 Speaker 02 Are you the kind of person who, when you realise that you, you wanna change something, you actually take active steps to change it?
1:13:32 Speaker 00 I think so. I will think about it for a long time, but then I will actually take an active step. James is probably the best person to ask. I don't know what I do. Yeah, yeah.
1:13:40 Speaker 01 Ed, Ed, I got asked on the podcast recently, um, what do you admire most about Ed Gamble? And I said it was how disciplined he is with stuff like that.
1:13:49 Speaker 02 Right.
1:13:49 Speaker 01 Whenever he's, whenever he decides, I'm gonna make a change, I'm gonna do this now. He really does it and really commits to it.
1:13:55 Speaker 02 Right.
1:13:55 Speaker 01 To the extent he's one of those friends where when, when he does it, you think, I should really be doing it.
1:13:59 Speaker 02 Right, right.
1:14:00 Speaker 01 Hmm. I should be looking after myself a bit better, actually, like, that's really good. So, yeah, he's.
1:14:04 Speaker 00 But I think that says a lot about James that.
1:14:06 Speaker 01 He's the best in the biz.
1:14:07 Speaker 00 I should be doing that.
1:14:08 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:14:09 Speaker 02 And what would he say is, uh, the traits that he admires the most in you?
1:14:15 Speaker 01 You Mr. And Mrs. Is, is in it.
1:14:17 Speaker 02 A little bit of that.
1:14:18 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
1:14:18 Speaker 02 But I'm asking you what you think he would say about you.
1:14:20 Speaker 01 Well, I think Ed would say about me.
1:14:21 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:14:22 Speaker 01 I have absolutely no idea.
1:14:23 Speaker 02 Oh, yes, you do.
1:14:24 Speaker 01 I think secretly he doesn't like me.
1:14:28 Speaker 00 It's no secret.
1:14:29 Speaker 01 Oh, no. No idea.
1:14:31 Speaker 00 Did you like to know?
1:14:32 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:14:32 Speaker 00 Very hardworking, very talented, never rests on his laurels.
1:14:36 Speaker 02 Hmm.
1:14:37 Speaker 00 Always creating.
1:14:38 Speaker 02 Hmm.
1:14:38 Speaker 00 Lovely man, very emotionally literate. Anything else? Do you want more things?
1:14:42 Speaker 01 That's very nice.
1:14:43 Speaker 02 Literate, that's lovely.
1:14:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, it'd surprise you, wouldn't it, from the venture, venture of the quiz dummy?
1:14:49 Speaker 02 It does, it surprised me. That, that's a lovely thing to say about somebody too, if it's true.
1:14:53 Speaker 01 Thank you, Ed.
1:14:54 Speaker 00 It is, it is true.
1:14:55 Speaker 01 It's nice to hear, thank you.
1:14:56 Speaker 02 And, and, and do you guys spend time with each other outside of the podcast?
1:14:59 Speaker 00 We do.
1:14:59 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:15:00 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:15:00 Speaker 01 Yeah, like last few New Years, been spent together?
1:15:03 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:15:04 Speaker 02 Any more than one day, yeah, yeah?
1:15:06 Speaker 01 No.
1:15:07 Speaker 00 Well, we'll go, well, you know, we'll go away, then we go, we'll go away on the, on the, on the sort of, on the thirtieth, thirty first.
1:15:14 Speaker 00 And then we'll, we'll, you know, leave on the second, I leave earlier.
1:15:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:15:18 Speaker 00 So it's up, it's up to three days, Julian.
1:15:20 Speaker 02 Right, okay, that's, that's impressive.
1:15:22 Speaker 01 Yeah, outside of the podcast, pretty good, pretty, pretty good. Well, the whole menu sounds great. I'm gonna read it back to you now and see how you feel about your menu. Um, you would like.
1:15:32 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:15:33 Speaker 01 Sparkling water.
1:15:34 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:15:35 Speaker 01 I'm gonna put a little bit of apple juice in there for it.
1:15:37 Speaker 02 Oh, thank you very much.
1:15:37 Speaker 01 Uh, you would like challah bread for your poppadoms of bread. Starter, pumpkin soup with roasted pumpkin seeds. I feel like we didn't talk enough about that.
1:15:44 Speaker 00 We didn't. Can I quickly ask, would you like it served in a big pumpkin?
1:15:47 Speaker 02 Absa-fucking-lutely not.
1:15:49 Speaker 00 No.
1:15:49 Speaker 01 Main course.
1:15:50 Speaker 00 That's a no to that.
1:15:51 Speaker 01 Gone so well until that point.
1:15:52 Speaker 02 No, awful.
1:15:55 Speaker 01 Main course, Thanksgiving dinner, you've got turkey, sweet potatoes, roast potatoes, green beans, pearl onion, uh, gratin.
1:16:01 Speaker 00 Oh, that's, I want that.
1:16:02 Speaker 01 Green glass jello, both types of stuffing, gravy, drink, oh, G-spot, of course. Dessert, panettone, bread pudding with hot custard. Oh, delicious. I mean, I think I'm most excited about that dessert, but that is so up my street.
1:16:17 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:16:17 Speaker 01 It's unreal. Very excited. I think that's a great menu.
1:16:20 Speaker 02 Well, thank you. I, I do, yeah. I felt, it's making me very hungry.
1:16:24 Speaker 00 And my initial reaction to the green glass.
1:16:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah.
1:16:28 Speaker 00 Was that that would be horrible, but I do actually wanna try it.
1:16:30 Speaker 02 Oh.
1:16:31 Speaker 00 I really wanna try it. So I'm intrigued by that.
1:16:33 Speaker 02 So if I sent you the recipe.
1:16:34 Speaker 00 Mm-hmm.
1:16:34 Speaker 02 Would you make it?
1:16:35 Speaker 00 Benito will make it.
1:16:37 Speaker 01 Benito will make it and if any guests.
1:16:39 Speaker 02 And bring it in and you guys can try it together. Okay.
1:16:42 Speaker 00 We'll try it with the guests that we have in that day.
1:16:45 Speaker 02 Okay.
1:16:45 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:16:46 Speaker 01 If any listeners tweet the podcast.
1:16:48 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:16:48 Speaker 01 And say like, uh, hey, Mr. Benito, can I have some green glass jello with a treato?
1:16:54 Speaker 02 Yeah.
1:16:54 Speaker 01 He will make it for them.
1:16:55 Speaker 02 Amazing.
1:16:56 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:16:56 Speaker 01 Send it to their house.
1:16:56 Speaker 02 Love it.
1:16:57 Speaker 00 I genuinely will make it if you send the recipe.
1:16:59 Speaker 02 Okay, I will. I will send the recipe.
1:17:01 Speaker 00 Deal. Julian, thank you so much for coming into the dream restaurant.
1:17:04 Speaker 02 Thank you for having me.
1:17:05 Speaker 01 Thank you, Julian.
1:17:11 Speaker 00 Well, there we are, James, the wonderful Gillian Anderson.
1:17:14 Speaker 01 Wowee!
1:17:15 Speaker 00 Wowee! What a, what a pleasure it was to meet Gillian Anderson.
1:17:17 Speaker 01 And, I mean, so many things that I've never heard of, the green glass Jell-O. That Benito's gonna make for everybody. That's very exciting.
1:17:24 Speaker 00 I'm, it does sound disgusting, though.
1:17:26 Speaker 01 Yes, but I will eat it.
1:17:28 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:17:29 Speaker 01 By the pike.
1:17:29 Speaker 00 But you have to eat it with a savoury meal. You have to eat it with those things.
1:17:33 Speaker 01 Yeah, I understand.
1:17:34 Speaker 00 Yeah, separately, I'd imagine it's quite nice if you have it as a dessert, but the issue with it is you're having it with gravy.
1:17:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
1:17:41 Speaker 00 So you've got to have it with gravy. So Benito, you've got to make some gravy.
1:17:43 Speaker 01 You've got to make some gravy, Benito. I understand all the rules. Oh, dear me, that was me picking my phone up. It sounded like a fart.
1:17:48 Speaker 00 Yeah.
1:17:50 Speaker 01 The, the, the rubber case of my phone dragged across the wood because I, I have to look at my phone to recite the secret ingredient which Gillian did not pick.
1:17:58 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:17:59 Speaker 01 Which is nonfat tofu tea rice dreamsicle from season six.
1:18:05 Speaker 00 Yes.
1:18:05 Speaker 01 Of X-Files, The Unnatural.
1:18:06 Speaker 00 And Tron Aries, not Tron arse, is out in cinemas on the 10th of October. Trespasses, forgive us those who trespass against us.
1:18:13 Speaker 01 Yes, please.
1:18:14 Speaker 00 Will air in November on Channel 4. And you can buy G-Spot drinks at stores nationwide, including Sainsbury's.
1:18:20 Speaker 01 Woo!
1:18:20 Speaker 00 Or online at thisisgspot.com. Careful when you're typing that in. And you can watch this episode on YouTube from tomorrow. Look, listen to it and then watch it for all the little, all the little nuances.
1:18:30 Speaker 01 If you watch it on YouTube, be careful because that thing is addictive and you can end up on there for a long time. Watching god knows what else. I, I, I won't even tell you what videos are, which you won't be able to guess. Because I'm, I'm presuming Benito's gonna edit that out of the episode so I don't look like a weirdo.
1:18:44 Speaker 00 Things to enjoy on the YouTube video, Gillian's noise where she rotated her head a lot.
1:18:50 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:18:50 Speaker 00 Um, Gillian's impression of James.
1:18:52 Speaker 01 Yes.
1:18:52 Speaker 00 Uh, and also how uncomfortable it looks when she brought up her sex book.
1:18:56 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, Ed really didn't, when, when I was asking questions about the sex, Ed.
1:19:00 Speaker 00 Oh, no, I didn't mind at that point. It's when she brought it up and she was looking me right in the eye and she was talking about her, um, sexual fantasy book.
1:19:06 Speaker 01 And then you were scared.
1:19:07 Speaker 00 Not scared.
1:19:09 Speaker 00 Uncomfortable. Yeah, you seemed like you wanted the conversation to end pretty quickly. I didn't think the book was gonna come up. We're already talking about a drink called G-Spot. That was enough circling around the nethers for me. Oh, I'm touring Europe in November, so if you live in, you know, your Denmark's, your Netherlands, your Portugal weirdly. Circling around the Netherlands? Circling around the Netherlands. I'm going, yeah, I'm doing Lisbon. I'm doing Rotterdam, I'm doing Amsterdam, I'm doing Oslo, I'm doing Bergen. I'm doing Gibraltar, Never Newer. Always funny. Yeah. Always funny. And you can go to eggamble.co.uk for tickets. I'm also touring America next year in February. You're fantastic.
1:19:53 Speaker 00 And then of course gotta come back because we're doing bloody off-menu at the Royal Albert Hall. Oh, yeah. It's over. We're struggling to sell tickets for that.
1:20:04 Speaker 00 Can't give them away. How many shows are you doing, Benita? We're doing six Royal Albert Hall shows, James, and we just put the last one on sale. Yep, we're trying to get bums on seats. We sold 22,000 tickets. It's over. We're trying to get bums on seats because everyone's giving us a bloody standing ovation. Sit down. Put your trons on the seat. Brilliant. Thanks. It's best in the biz. Well, there we are, James. Thanks again, everyone, for listening. Thanks to Gillian Anderson. Thank you, Gillian. Let's all raise a G-Spot and we'll see you next time. See you next time. Thanks, G-Spot.
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