We're BACK Baby (no.4...)

They're back! Yes, there was a business (an actual new, human life) to attend to, but they couldn't leave it any longer... There is too much to discuss. Too much has happened. HOW was that woman allowed to continue competing? WHEN will Sydney Sweeney just calm down and stop upsetting people? And exactly HOW MANY names did Vogue consider before she decided??? My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a global production. Have we lost the art of bringing in sick?

• 0:07Speaker 01

  What the fuck was I on?

• 0:10Speaker 00

  If anyone's thinking of taking in a family of hamsters, please contact Vogue. For a brainstorm on identity. This woman shits herself physically, Reagan shits herself emotionally. And spiritually.

• 0:22Speaker 01

  My neighbour's dogs were called Sam and Ella, two golden retrievers. They're like, Sam and Ella.

• 0:29Speaker 00

  We need to get you a little clown horn that every time you say something that you don't mean, you go eh eh eh eh.

• 0:34Speaker 01

  Not true, not true.

• 0:35Speaker 00

  They had to then try and clean it up and it was just. Okay, there's the limit, we found it. Okay, yeah, we fit the wall.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  Hello and welcome, we're back.

• 0:49Speaker 00

  We're back, baby. We're back, baby, with a baby. We're back, we've had the baby. Yeah.

• 0:57Speaker 01

  The baby is still living with me, but he might move to Duan for nights. We haven't decided yet, but I think that's how we're gonna split our time.

• 1:05Speaker 00

  Well, I did, when I, when I met him, he was, he was, he, see, I only meet babies when they're, babies, babies? I only meet babies when they're sleeping. When I met Remy Valentine.

• 1:18Speaker 00

  Cool name, by the way. I mean.

• 1:21Speaker 01

  It was Rocky for a day, by the way, it was Rocky for a day.

• 1:24Speaker 00

  Yeah, I love Rocky, I think it's a great name. Remy is giving Hollywood, it's giving Hollywood, or it's stripper. Remy Valentine.

• 1:32Speaker 01

  Yeah, I will say, I will say Hollywood, I will, so we had no name. I was really furious about Elvis in the hospital because I was like, well, he's come out and he looks like Elvis. So this is awkward. And I knew that we couldn't have Elvis. And then it was between Remy and Rocky. And for the whole day, I was like, no, he's Rocky, Rocky. And I'd like, I'd like set up his like cotton stuff and like named it Rocky and like everything was Rocky. And then the next day, the day I left hospital, I woke up and I said, that's not Rocky. Who is that? That's not Rocky. And I was like, we can't, and we left the hospital with no name. And then I registered him and I had a week to choose the name. And then I was like, actually, I love Remy. And then I, but I hated Remy two days before.

• 2:13Speaker 01

  So I would say, if you're having a baby, choose the name before, because you're like, you're not yourself.

• 2:20Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:21Speaker 01

  After.

• 2:21Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. But they do, people do say, now, obviously, as someone who hasn't birthed a child yet, I'm not familiar with the experience. But they do say, sometimes people will have had a baby name confirmed, like in their head. And then when the baby comes out, they're like, oh God, no, that's, that's not a, that's not a Derek at all or whatever. There's a book called, have you read the names? Derek? Shit. Well, I mean, no one's Derek, to be fair.

• 2:47Speaker 01

  I have an uncle called Derek.

• 2:49Speaker 00

  Oh God, yeah, that generation, Derek was probably quite acceptable then. Yeah. But there's a book called The Names, which it's, it's literally all about that. Like the life that your child has underneath different names. And it opens with a woman on her way to the naming, what do you call it, naming shop? What do you call it?

• 3:08Speaker 01

  The registry office.

• 3:09Speaker 00

  Yeah. And her husband wants her to call the child Gordon after himself. And she's having a panic attack because she's like.

• 3:15Speaker 01

  Oh, I know that book.

• 3:16Speaker 00

  If I call this child Gordon, it's gonna have an awful, awful life. It's a really good book.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  It's quite a sad book, no?

• 3:22Speaker 00

  Yes, it's quite sad. They're such good, they're so good reviews. It's quite sad.

• 3:27Speaker 01

  I know.

• 3:29Speaker 01

  It's that definitely what it's. I, I do think it's really important to choose a good, strong name. But I was going on Chat GPT the whole time, because I was like, this is the only.

• 3:39Speaker 00

  Really?

• 3:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, because I was like, I don't want a name that's super, so he was Sonny Valentine at one point. And the reason he wasn't that is because we found out there was a character on Hollyoaks called Sonny Valentine. And we were like, okay, we can't do Sonny Valentine now. Then I wanted him to be called Fox and they were like, Vogue, please, it's the same vein as Elvis, just don't do it. Then he was gonna be called Alba, because it's an Irish name, A I L B E, A I L B H E.

• 4:07Speaker 00

  Alba, no.

• 4:08Speaker 01

  Alba is a girl's name, yeah, Alba, yeah. But Alba's a girl's name over here.

• 4:12Speaker 00

  A I L B H E.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  That's the Irish saying, it's a boy's name in Ireland, Alba. But in England, it's a girl's name.

• 4:20Speaker 00

  Is Alba not spelt A I L B H E, the girl's name in Ireland?

• 4:24Speaker 01

  I don't know. This one was, I listened, still Chat GPT tell me. Then Remy, I was like, is Remy really popular? And it was like, it's not really popular. Well, it's really popular amongst old Frenchmen. I don't mind old Frenchmen. And they're on the way out, so there's no one in his class gonna be called Remy.

• 4:42Speaker 00

  Vogue, Vogue, just to stop, and I think you made all the right choices, but Alba, just to stop you, that would be like calling him Sinead. Alba is an Irish girl's name.

• 4:50Speaker 01

  There is, no, maybe I'm spelling it wrong, there is an Irish boy's name called Alba. But it's spelt like that.

• 4:58Speaker 00

  A I L B H E.

• 5:00Speaker 01

  It'll be fine.

• 5:00Speaker 00

  I think you're about to call this baby boy Saoirse. Or, no, there's nothing wrong with boys having girls' names, I'll tick, tick and all that.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  Yeah, A I L B E.

• 5:10Speaker 00

  Oh, sorry, no H, Grant. Now it reeks of masculinity, I understand.

• 5:16Speaker 01

  Jesus, listen to these Tiger, River, Buddy, Rocket, Elvie, what the fuck was I on?

• 5:25Speaker 00

  Wow, you're on the hospital there.

• 5:26Speaker 01

  If anyone wants.

• 5:29Speaker 00

  Brilliant, yeah. Family, if anyone, if anyone's thinking of taking in a family of hamsters, please contact Vogue. For a brainstorm on identity.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  Oh my God, remember he was Lucky, he was Lucky Bear for a while, but Svenny was like, that's a dog's name, I'm not having it.

• 5:46Speaker 00

  Like I say.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Unlucky to call someone Lucky.

• 5:49Speaker 00

  It's, it is, it is, you do feel like you're chancing fate there, you're kind of nagging destiny. But I, it's only since, because obviously I'm reading all about, not reading all about the Mormons, because going to Salt Lake City, I'm reading a tiny bit about the Mormons. And I know that they love these kind of whimsy names, so, yeah. So now, now I'm not shocked by anything, do you know what I mean? You could have called him.

• 6:10Speaker 01

  I'm kind of shocked when I read that list back, to be honest with you.

• 6:12Speaker 00

  Airfryer garden hose, and I would have been like, fair.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  Airfryer, great name, nothing wrong with that.

• 6:19Speaker 00

  All is well, baby, ten fingers, ten toes, two eyes, two ears, head, neck.

• 6:24Speaker 01

  I'd like to clear up the Santa hat as well.

• 6:27Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 6:28Speaker 01

  What was this, I missed it. Because you know the way, the first pictures that you get of the baby, and I'm a very organised person. I had everything in like those little bags, so like his going home outfit, his other outfit. I forgot to pack a hat. And the only hat the hospital had was this Santa hat. And it was basically a red and white woolen hat. I think it had a bubble. And everyone was like, why is the kid wearing a Santa hat? I hadn't got a hat, there was no other hat. So that was why Remy was wearing a Santa hat in his first pictures, which he'll be thrilled about when he sees some of these.

• 7:01Speaker 00

  Do they have to wear hats leaving, is that like a rule?

• 7:05Speaker 01

  Not, like, they lose a lot of heat from their heads.

• 7:08Speaker 00

  Yeah, my God, do they what? As in, I only know myself, because now I've got loads of steno's in again, I've gained heat in my head and I'm back sweating to the point where I have to keep stopping filming to blot my tash. So I understand, I can see how, yeah. Cut.

• 7:23Speaker 01

  I'm like, oh, they do check on everyone.

• 7:25Speaker 00

  Get someone get the back of her neck. No, just me, just me.

• 7:29Speaker 00

  In front of the whole TV audience. So, so yeah, so that makes sense, so you're just basically, it's just because the baby, you'd be worried the baby's cold, so you put it, you put him in little mittens.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  Uh, you can, but that's more for them scratching themselves. He's like, he hasn't worn, he hasn't worn mittens since, he's okay.

• 7:46Speaker 00

  Cute.

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, it was a, it was a lovely day had by all.

• 7:49Speaker 00

  And then within, as they were cutting the umbilical cord, you went to see Jay-Z.

• 7:55Speaker 01

  Unbelievable. I was having a real, real Debbie Downer day that day. I forgot about that, when you're, when you've just had a baby, your hormones like will crash. And I hadn't slept well. And it was Tea's birthday that day, we'd gone out for lunch and la, la, la, la, we'd had a lovely day. And then I was like, I had asked our friend Jess for, for tickets. And he gave me really nice tickets and I was like, I really want to go. But then I was like, I don't want to go because I'm so tired and I feel really like sad today and I just don't want to go anywhere. And then I was like, I can't, I can't ask for the tickets and then not go. So it's like, we have to go. So we went and as soon as I walked in, I was absolutely thrilled. It was, it was, like, he was so good. I'm getting a stab vest.

• 8:40Speaker 01

  He has, he was wearing these stab vests on stage, did you see him? He looked so cool.

• 8:43Speaker 00

  No, I'd love a stab vest.

• 8:45Speaker 01

  For safety and fashion.

• 8:47Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 8:48Speaker 01

  I've just gotten a pair of Timberlands as well, so. Svenny, Svenny was looking at Jay-Z and he was like, I'm gonna, I'm gonna break my Timberlands back out. And I was like, please don't, just don't break them.

• 8:58Speaker 00

  Everything comes full circle. Did you see Caterpillar? Do you know the brand Caterpillar, they're after collabing with Savorsky, the Daimante company.

• 9:06Speaker 01

  Should you not remember Doc Martens when you were younger and you'd get the flowery ones?

• 9:10Speaker 00

  No, were they just designed, these are actual bejazzled, like bejazzled boots.

• 9:15Speaker 01

  I could, I could get into them, I like Swarovski or whatever it's called.

• 9:18Speaker 00

  Swarovski, I mean, they, I can't pronounce it, so it doesn't, it doesn't matter, they're not for me, it's not, it's not. I don't like the style of it. But even I, because I, because I obviously worry about sometimes what people will say to you. Because people feel very entitled to say things to you and give you shit about stuff. And I was like, I hope she's okay going to this concert. I'd imagine, are people not gonna be like, where's the baby? Is it not all that?

• 9:43Speaker 01

  Well, no, because I only actually missed one feed, so, and, and it's quite frankly, none of their business. And I had a great time, I don't regret it at all.

• 9:53Speaker 00

  Since when did that stop them?

• 9:55Speaker 01

  He was at home waiting for Santa in his hat, he was fine.

• 9:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, fine. I just was like, I wonder if she's gonna get abused for this now.

• 10:01Speaker 01

  Ah God, it was so good. Now, I had booked in another concert for the next week and I had to pull out of that, that I had pushed it too far. I was really glad I went to Jay-Z though, because he's just the coolest. And I really want to go and see Celine, have you seen her in, in France? Everyone's talking about it.

• 10:16Speaker 00

  No, I heard it's great.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  I'd say that would be unbelievable.

• 10:19Speaker 00

  Obviously, we're across the Macamore Sheeran scandal.

• 10:26Speaker 00

  Are we gonna talk about it?

• 10:28Speaker 01

  I mean, oh, well.

• 10:30Speaker 02

  We should, should, should say that at time of recording, it's Wednesday. I think by the time it's Friday.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  I think by the time Friday comes on, I think that they, that they, that it will be cancelled. Yeah. I just think that like, there's certain, there's certain, like, I, I, I wouldn't be a massive Ed Sheeran fan.

• 10:46Speaker 00

  He's really fucked up. I mean, this is, it's a big fuck up.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, he's really, he's fucked up badly.

• 10:52Speaker 00

  As apologies go, and like, it's not also, it's like, I don't take credit for sides. Like, you have done before, Ed, to be fair now. You just stood on full terms or anything.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  When it was the Ukraine, yeah.

• 11:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, you have. But it's the apology. It's the, it, it, it's the whole thing. This is why people need publicists. Like, Ed.

• 11:09Speaker 01

  Do you know how many people would have been working on that statement, John?

• 11:12Speaker 00

  No.

• 11:13Speaker 01

  That's the, that's the equivalent of when Theodore goes to me, say, say. That's the equivalent of the apology that Ed came out.

• 11:21Speaker 00

  I'm sorry you feel like this, but uh, this suggestion is I've done nothing wrong. He didn't even put that thing through Chat GPT. Like, it was literally.

• 11:30Speaker 01

  You're selling out arenas in America. You're telling me the promoter is controlling everything and you're not? Get a grip, Edward.

• 11:39Speaker 00

  Yeah, someone did, someone was tweeting something the other day and they're like, Mackamore doing the Mackamouse. And it's all just like, he's been kind of elevated to God status now. And I mean, in fairness to him, I, like, I will say, Mackamore's music, I'm not really that aware of it, but I always knew he was a sound person. Do you know what I mean? Like, I've seen him in interviews, I've seen him talk, and you can tell this man's got a moral backbone. He's got a moral compass. And, and yeah, and he's been, he was, they tried to push him for it.

• 12:08Speaker 01

  Suit. Yeah, but, but I think all the other support acts following suit are just like, I think that that's really incre- incredible because it's such a, it's such a big gig for them. And they all did say that, like, it's a really big, big gig for them. And to, to be able to just stand behind what they believe and to come out and, and just to pull out of the tour. I just like, it kind of like, it'd bring it here to your eye, with everyone coming together like that. I'm like, it's just so lovely. So nice to see.

• 12:40Speaker 01

  I forget everything at the moment. Someone goes to me, oh, maybe you're going through the menopause. I was like, I literally have a newborn baby in my arms. I'm not, I don't.

• 12:50Speaker 00

  I think you can have a baby when you're in the mani- in the, well, you're in the prairie. I know, I mean.

• 12:55Speaker 01

  She's saying I was going through menopause. I was like, um, I'm not sure.

• 12:59Speaker 00

  The second a woman over 28 forgets a single thing, or has, or has a bead of sweat in her face, everyone's like, menopause. Menopause. It's like, I've had nine bottles of wine. That's why I can't remember anything. They're like, no, it's the menopause. It's the menopause. Or I'm saying, I'm trying to say it's the menopause. And they're like, you've had nine bottles of wine. It's the menopause. Vogue, um, I don't know if you know, but I'm going to America next week for.

• 13:26Speaker 01

  Stop it.

• 13:27Speaker 00

  A tour. Yeah. It's a tour that I, much to my shame, kind of forgot to plug. Um, and my God, does it show?

• 13:38Speaker 01

  Well, you did a great job of plugging the rest of it. So now we're just starting on America. We're very excited. You're going everywhere.

• 13:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, I, I just, I ran out of plugging steam, I will say. There's only so much of yourself you can plug. And before you're, you give up, you're just bored out of your own mind. Okay, so I'm not gonna go through the dates. I'm just gonna name the places. Right? Because I don't want to take up too much of the pot. God forbid I use the pot to elevate my stand-up career in America. We're going Seattle, Portland, San Francisco, couple of shows there, Sacramento. We're going Denver. We're going Salt Lake City. I've got three nights in Las Vegas.

• 14:15Speaker 01

  Oh, that's fun. Oh my God, come here to me. My dad's friend Swiggy is going to your show in San Francisco. And he wants you to go to the Nob Hill Cafe, where I used to work, that has the most delicious pasta after your show and go to the pistol. So when you do your show in San Francisco, you can go see Swiggy. There you go.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  Sorry, how have you managed to successfully plug the Nob Cafe in Sacramento better than I plugged my entire American tour?

• 14:44Speaker 01

  I've just plugged, we'll consider San Francisco, sold out. You're welcome.

• 14:48Speaker 00

  San Francisco, San Francisco. Wow.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  I believe we were in, we were in Las Vegas, were we?

• 14:53Speaker 00

  So, Las Vegas, three nights. And I'm not saying F M L because it's Las Vegas. I love Las Vegas. It's just three nights, three nights. There's a lot of shows. Anyway. Then we've got Phoenix, Vancouver, Houston, Austin, couple of shows there, Dallas, Chicago, Washington, Philadelphia, couple of shows there. Philadelphia, four shows there, Boston, Boston, New York, New York, two shows. That's a Netflix special. The earlier show still has tickets. Then Toronto.

• 15:20Speaker 01

  So just a few bits and bobs.

• 15:23Speaker 00

  If you could just put some music behind that, Joe, and include some links.

• 15:28Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'll put something classy behind it.

• 15:30Speaker 00

  To be honest, it's actually.

• 15:31Speaker 01

  You should put that.

• 15:34Speaker 00

  Or no, do you know what that needs, Joe? That needs saxophones getting louder. That's what that needs.

• 15:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, we can have sax in there.

• 15:41Speaker 00

  Yeah, we need the saxophones getting louder for that one. It's actually, some of them are actually fine.

• 15:45Speaker 01

  But I think you're gonna have a lovely time.

• 15:47Speaker 00

  And by weirder, I just mean places I haven't been before. Yeah, it's basically, I'm just going, I'm on a J1.

• 15:52Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'd love that. I'd love to go to Austin and Dallas. I thought it'd be so cool.

• 15:56Speaker 00

  That is kind of cool. I'm actually really looking forward to that.

• 15:59Speaker 01

  I'd love to ask you to get me a pair of cowboy boots, but I'm still waiting on my American fantasy. So I don't think you're gonna get me cowboy boots.

• 16:04Speaker 00

  Well, I'm, I have to pack for two months, so I can, I, I can imagine there's not gonna be an inch of space unless I wear them home on my hands. I ain't getting anything else in that suitcase.

• 16:13Speaker 01

  You did tell me 10 days ago you were starting to pack. Has that not happened yet? No?

• 16:17Speaker 00

  Did I?

• 16:18Speaker 01

  I'm gonna be organized, Vogue. I'm gonna go home. I'm gonna go home and pack. And I actually, I saw, I saw some form of packing on the Instagram, but then I thought, she's not gonna keep that up.

• 16:28Speaker 00

  That's it all.

• 16:29Speaker 01

  I started to pack and then just, and then decided to do a giant clear out, which I began and haven't touched the room since. And everything's still, there's, everything's still fucking, there's bras hanging off the lights. So you know the way that obviously we loved the name Elvis? Anyway.

• 16:43Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 16:43Speaker 01

  So Remy had, all babies are born with some kind of jaundice. So Remy had like jaundice, but his eyes were quite yellow and stuff like that. So when I went to the midwife, they were like, you need to go back. Yeah, you have to take him back into the hospital. Uh, just to make sure, because they put you under like some light or something.

• 16:58Speaker 00

  I assumed it was all the drinking you did when you were pregnant, you gave him liver failure.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  I don't know what I was. I thought he was a fun baby.

• 17:09Speaker 01

  God, I was so not fun towards the end of the pregnancy. Anyway, so we went, we went in and, and I was waiting for the doctor. And the doctor came in and she just goes, Elvis. And I was like, oh my.

• 17:20Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 17:22Speaker 01

  Yeah. So she listened to the pod. And when she said that, I was like, oh no, it sounds so good coming out of your mouth.

• 17:27Speaker 00

  Oh. Now, I really like Remy.

• 17:30Speaker 01

  Calling him Elvis.

• 17:31Speaker 00

  I really think Remy's a great name. I really do. Yeah, I think you've done really well there.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  Okay, well, we talk about things that have happened this week.

• 17:37Speaker 00

  So much has happened since we've been away. We've lost Dolly Parton. It's been, it's been, it's been, it's been a lot of, there's been a lot going on. Kelly Osbourne has come out against her sister.

• 17:48Speaker 01

  And, and Jack. Neither of them speak to the sister supposedly.

• 17:51Speaker 00

  I know, yeah.

• 17:52Speaker 01

  I always think that's really sad, but it does happen. Like, we've spoken about this before because you and I are really close to our families. But like, it is really sad when it gets to that point where you, you don't feel like you can make amends or want to be pals with your family member.

• 18:07Speaker 00

  Something, speaking publicly about it like that, when your sister, and I like Kelly Osbourne, but when your sister doesn't have a public platform, speaking on a public platform about someone who doesn't have a public platform, I'm, never sits right with me if I'm honest. Except unless we're doing it, slagging off an ex. That's different. That is different.

• 18:25Speaker 01

  We don't use specific names.

• 18:28Speaker 00

  We don't, we don't actually, in fairness. And, and because we have a strange and, uh, like, kind of questionable dating history. When we talk about someone in a negative light, it could literally be one of 68 men. So we always try and keep it, you know, no one's identifiable, I would say.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  Sorry, I needed to bring something up at you too. Speaking of that. So remember we made the joke, the joke being the operative word, of me saying, wondering why I wasn't invited to my ex's wedding. Obviously, I wasn't invited. Obviously, I wouldn't go. We haven't spoken since we broke up. Well, someone asked him about it in an interview and it came up in my Google alerts.

• 19:08Speaker 00

  I saw.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  And, ah, oh, you saw, yeah. None of you sent it to me. Well, I didn't send it to you either. I was like, fuck them.

• 19:16Speaker 00

  I was like, I'm not sending this for no, she's not gonna be happy about this.

• 19:21Speaker 01

  He thinks that I was serious. They've made it out like I was serious. I'm like, oh my God.

• 19:28Speaker 00

  Did he contact you?

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Like, what the hell? No, he spoke about it in an interview. And Joe, I have another que- another bone to pick with you, Joe, about my other ex, Harry Styles. Did someone not send you the, did someone not send you the article?

• 19:43Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, let me have a.

• 19:44Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. Yeah. Did they send you the article?

• 19:47Speaker 02

  No.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  Harry Styles, it wasn't my ex, by the way. That's a joke. I've never, I don't even think I've met him.

• 19:52Speaker 00

  We need to get you a little, we need to get you a little clown horn, that every time you say something that you don't mean, you go eh eh eh eh.

• 19:59Speaker 01

  Not true, not true.

• 20:00Speaker 00

  I will say, for your ex and the wedding, I would say he, in fair, he's like, all is fair. Like, if you're gonna talk about me, I'm gonna respond. Do you know what I mean?

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Oh, a hundred percent. But I just died of embarrassment because I was like, oh my God, now he'll think that like, I was genuinely thinking I should be invited.

• 20:17Speaker 00

  There's no way in hell he thought that was real. Come on. Unless he's had a lobotomy.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 20:24Speaker 00

  Who would think? It's, he would know through the grapevine that everything he gets, everything.

• 20:29Speaker 01

  Anyway, I just need to be more careful with my words, which is what I always forget to be careful.

• 20:34Speaker 00

  You need a clown horn.

• 20:37Speaker 00

  Big pair of shoes.

• 20:39Speaker 01

  I just need a muzzle, a muzzle, like, stop talking.

• 20:42Speaker 00

  I'm gonna say something sarcastic, pass you my giant clown shoes and put me into my teeny car.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Oh my god, I actually have a clown costume downstairs because that's what I'm dressing up as for Halloween with the kids.

• 20:54Speaker 00

  Are you? I'm surprised, are you not? I'm surprised you don't do gay Halloween.

• 20:59Speaker 01

  What's gay Halloween?

• 21:00Speaker 00

  Gay Halloween.

• 21:03Speaker 01

  Ga- is it galloween by any chance?

• 21:05Speaker 00

  But that would make really, that would make a lot of sense. Gay Halloween to me is kind of anecdotally where the gay community take kind of people who were viral that year, they take kind of like ridiculous pieces of pop culture and turn them into costumes. Like, so for example, I was doing something, I was writing something the other day and they were talking about this fictional scene where Nigella Lawson threw a potato at someone and I was like, well, if that had happened, gay Halloween would be dressed as the potato. Do you know what I mean? That's kind of the best example I can give of it.

• 21:43Speaker 01

  No, I mean, I'm a bit lazy with the old costumes now. I just ordered them online because it's just for trick or treating purposes.

• 21:49Speaker 00

  Do you know who was huge at Halloween, which leads me into my first story that I'd like to discuss. Do you know what was one of the biggest Halloween costumes? I always get my years confused, probably last year, was our favourite breakdancer and Olympian.

• 22:04Speaker 01

  Re- Reagan.

• 22:06Speaker 00

  Yes. Now, I don't know, I always think that these things, poor Reagan, I think these things are huge to me. If they're huge to me, they're huge to everyone. And then I'll talk.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  Can I ask you a question, can I ask you a question about Reagan?

• 22:19Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 22:19Speaker 01

  So, like, was Reagan actually like a professional breakdancer outside of the Olympics or did, what happened there? Why, why did that happen at the Olympics? Because she doesn't look like a breakdancer.

• 22:29Speaker 00

  This is a great question, Vogue, and I'm glad you asked it.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Am I missing something or was she just?

• 22:36Speaker 00

  Let me open my Reagan notes.

• 22:38Speaker 01

  Show up. Sven, he's gone to a golf day today, right? He's just showing off. He hasn't played golf in six years. He hasn't hit a ball in six years and he doesn't even have a golf outfit, but he's going in runners and suit trousers. Like golf clothes and it's televised. I'm like, how do people do this to themselves? He's gonna be the Reagan of this week. Wait, something will come up today about Sven.

• 23:03Speaker 00

  But he's so insane. He'll probably end up winning the US Open or some shit. He's just, I mean, that man has the confidence.

• 23:10Speaker 01

  Does it work like that?

• 23:12Speaker 00

  He has the confidence of Putin, Trump. Not the politics, I'm not saying that. I'm just saying he has the self-belief, you know what I mean? Oh, I'm trying to think of someone, Charlie Sheen, back in the day during his winning days. Remember him?

• 23:30Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, winning. I said to him last night, I was like, you've got to pull out. He was talking to Mark Wright's on his team and Mark Wright was like, are you joking me? Why was that so like, like, it's just, it's the most insane thing to do, to go and play golf when you haven't.

• 23:44Speaker 00

  He's never gonna pull out. You've got four kids.

• 23:47Speaker 01

  On me.

• 23:47Speaker 00

  You've got four kids, the man has ever pulled out in his life, he's not gonna pull out of a golf competition. He doesn't know what the term means.

• 24:02Speaker 00

  So Reagan, so such a good question, Vogue. How did Reagan end up at the Olympics? Why was she, why did she get ridiculed, all that jazz? And why was she, why do people think?

• 24:12Speaker 01

  Well, I know why she got ridiculed. I just, I just don't know why she was at the Olympics.

• 24:15Speaker 00

  Yes. So basically, she's actually a lecturer, so she's an academic by day. And then this, she's a bee girl, as they call it, by night, which is basically like breakdancing, right? But she, in fairness, she, she won the qualifying event fair and square. Like, there's a bit, there was a kind of a conspiracy theory because her husband is her coach. So there was a conspiracy theory that he kind of got her in. But like even her competitors, who I don't think are huge fans of hers, who took part in the documentary, all said, no, no, no. She, like, she got, she did get through fair and square on the day. The, the general consensus is the standard just wasn't that good. Now, the standard in Australia in this bee dancing scene isn't good, the skills aren't there. Or it's an access situation, the people that are good can't afford to go to the qualifying events.

• 24:59Speaker 00

  That's kind of the general vibe, that they do have good dances. So she got through. But then, like, you have to kind of qualify through international. Anyway, it became very clear, she wasn't at the races compared to, kind of like Eddie the Eel. Do you remember Eddie the Eel back in the seventies?

• 25:15Speaker 01

  Eddie the Eagle.

• 25:17Speaker 00

  Eddie the Eagle.

• 25:21Speaker 00

  Who was the Eel?

• 25:23Speaker 01

  Not Eddie.

• 25:24Speaker 00

  Was it, was it? Eddie the Eagle was the ski jumper, wasn't he?

• 25:28Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 25:29Speaker 00

  Yeah, and Eddie, and the Eel was the, was the swimmer. Who'd only ever swam in a paddling pool and then went to the Olympics. Remember him?

• 25:37Speaker 01

  Imagine she got this right, we just laughed in her face.

• 25:40Speaker 00

  If the standard in your country.

• 25:43Speaker 01

  Is it?

• 25:44Speaker 02

  Eric the Eel competed at the Sydney 2000 Olympics. He had limited training, learning to swim just eight months before the game.

• 25:52Speaker 01

  Bam.

• 25:53Speaker 02

  He had four facilities, practised in a 13 metre hotel pool for a few hours a week, and he was a wild card entry.

• 26:01Speaker 01

  Ah, did he do well?

• 26:02Speaker 00

  I know. Did he do well? No, he didn't do well.

• 26:05Speaker 02

  Well, he didn't do well.

• 26:07Speaker 00

  He was the, he was the spirit, we would say. Mr. Continuality kind of vibes, wasn't he? Everyone was like, yeah, Eric, because it took him quite a while to finish the race.

• 26:16Speaker 01

  Do it, though.

• 26:17Speaker 02

  He was half the speed of his other competitors.

• 26:19Speaker 01

  Oh, no. Like, I just, I couldn't put myself on the chopping block like that. I couldn't be embarrassed like that.

• 26:26Speaker 00

  That's one situation where if I was part of the Olympic panel, I'd be like, get this man some performing enhancing. Like, this is one doping on prepared to turn a blind eye to him. Yeah, let him take it because I took him ages, didn't I, Joe?

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, he did it in one minute 52 seconds, which is more than twice as slow as everybody else.

• 26:48Speaker 00

  I mean, but to be honest, Joe, I'd be, I'd be, I'd be in there with my armbands and my peel needles, so fair play to him.

• 26:53Speaker 01

  So tell us about your one.

• 26:55Speaker 00

  Yeah, so the, so basically, the situation is, you can qualify for the Olympics. If the people you're qualifying against in your own country, if the standard's low and you're, so if you're not very good, you'll get through. If the people around you are worse, is ultimately the lesson here.

• 27:10Speaker 01

  What should we be applying for then in Ireland?

• 27:14Speaker 00

  Kerplunk.

• 27:17Speaker 01

  A little game of Twister.

• 27:19Speaker 00

  It was the first time breakdancing was in the Olympics, so, and it's now been taken out of the Olympics. And people are kind of saying that that's Reagan's fault. But the documentary was just kind of the journey of it all. And like, that's literally what happened. She just wasn't good. And then she got there and she realised, uh-oh, I'm not that good. She knew before. Because she was like, I can't do any of the technical stuff, so I'm gonna try and get on, get by on like riz and charm and pizzazz and then that didn't happen.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  It was, it felt like an interpretive dance, a lot of it.

• 27:47Speaker 00

  Well, the last round.

• 27:48Speaker 01

  Kangaroo.

• 27:49Speaker 00

  She did, she did.

• 27:51Speaker 01

  Oh, god.

• 27:52Speaker 00

  She did. So she, three rounds, she had her ass handed to her around one and round two. Round three, she decided she was gonna spice it up. And the, and the documentary was actually really well made. And it's kind of, she's, you know, it's very, remember, remember Over the Top where the guy used to be a professional arm wrestler? And then he'd turn his cap the other way and then he'd always win. Do you remember this? Over the top! Do you remember him? Sylvester Stallone, brilliant film.

• 28:14Speaker 01

  Jesus Christ, Joanna's.

• 28:16Speaker 00

  It was the eighties. He was a truck driver. He was trying to build a relationship with the son. They used to go to arm wrestling matches and he would always be losing and then he would turn his cap around and then he would win. Why he didn't turn his cap around at the start, I do not know, but he was great for the jeopardy of the film.

• 28:28Speaker 01

  Bit of jeopardy. Okay, so that, that's out on Netflix now, Reagan.

• 28:33Speaker 00

  It's out on Netflix now, but the funniest part of the whole thing.

• 28:35Speaker 01

  I don't know if I can watch it again, though. I can't watch her doing that again. It's too, I feel like, I feel embarrassed and I don't like feeling so embarrassed for her.

• 28:43Speaker 00

  The dancing at the kangaroo dancing at the end, she's, she knew she was losing and she said, you know what I'm gonna do? I'm gonna, it's like, it's like, I'm gonna do a.

• 28:52Speaker 01

  Cyclones coming out as an leprechaun trying to win something by being like, look, I'm a leprechaun. Like, it was just.

• 28:57Speaker 00

  It's exactly like that. It's exactly like that. She did it as kind of a love letter to Australia, the last bit where she was like doing the kangaroo and everything. It didn't work, we know that. It didn't work, right? But she said, she was literally a meme before she'd even walked off the court. They're like, it's gonna blow over. It's fine. Just don't look at the comments for a couple of days. Be grand. You know, there's worse things going on in the world, huh? Turns out there's not. She got absolutely annihilated. But do you know what the really funny part is? Her husband, I mean, let that love find me. He is besotted by her, right? So everything she did that was like not great, he said, I was struck by the beauty of her performance.

• 29:42Speaker 00

  He's like, I was mesmerised, the creativity of it. And then it cuts to another bee dancer who actually competed against her to get to the Olympics. And he, and she said, the second I saw her perform, I knew she was going to need psychological help.

• 29:56Speaker 01

  I think, I actually think it was just the timing of that because it was obviously a slow news week, you know, and sometimes I just pick up on something. But look at her now, she got a Netflix out of it. So actually, would I take the shame and then get to have a Netflix? Maybe.

• 30:10Speaker 00

  She's also, she's also-

• 30:11Speaker 01

  It might be worth it.

• 30:12Speaker 00

  She's also a window wiper, because you know the way, one of the, one of the, one of the moves she did, she's like, like, kind of, it's almost like she's doing a setup. So someone turned her into a window wiper. I mean, the shame is deep. The shame is deep. She's like, look, I was cringe. But you know, it kind of sad at the end. She's like, I just wanna, I just wanna have the confidence to dance again.

• 30:32Speaker 01

  Oh, please not. No, I just, I can't. No. Come on, guys, come on. No, I wanna have the confidence to dance again. I just don't, I don't think dancing's for everybody. It's not for me, it's not for you, and it's not for Reagan. That's-

• 30:44Speaker 00

  Well, certainly not bright, but bright dancing. I think we're more zumba girls. Let's be honest. We're not, we're not bright dancers. We know our line.

• 30:52Speaker 01

  I, you know that I'm a street funk dancer, so that's-

• 30:55Speaker 00

  You're sorry, of course. I forgot that you are a street funk dancer.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yes, I am.

• 31:03Speaker 00

  Uh, yeah, I'm more, I'm more the Macarena, I'll be honest. I'm, I'm culturally aware. Actually, no, hold on, I can't do the Macarena, I'm Irish.

• 31:12Speaker 00

  We don't have anything.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  We, oh, we have Irish dancing. Are you mad? That's an amazing dance. And I've always said, if you're Irish, and like, like, cause I have done the Irish dancing for Svenny's parents, where they all, they all do the thing where they, I don't know if it's an English thing, or they're quite posh, and maybe it's that, where they all have a party trick. And mine's Irish dancing, because I don't know if I'm Irish dancing or not. And they think I'm British.

• 31:37Speaker 00

  Am I calling my next show Liverdance?

• 31:39Speaker 01

  That's not bad, actually.

• 31:41Speaker 00

  It's good, isn't it? Well, just if we're talking about kind of the Irishness of it all, and then there's always alcohol in the show titles, and, although that does sound like a swan song before you hit the Betty Ford, if I'm honest, doesn't it?

• 31:52Speaker 02

  It does, it does sound like that.

• 31:55Speaker 01

  I mean, well, we all kind of had questions around penophile, if I'm honest, so I think Liverdance seems quite, seems quite-

• 32:03Speaker 00

  It's a statement. It's a statement piece. It's a statement piece, yeah.

• 32:08Speaker 01

  You got away with it. Tell you what, I wouldn't get away with that.

• 32:13Speaker 00

  You would, you'd have your car, you'd have your clown horn now. You will get away with this.

• 32:20Speaker 01

  Um, so that, yeah, the next thing that I saw, oh, God, the high rocks girl.

• 32:28Speaker 00

  Her name's Joanna.

• 32:29Speaker 01

  Something that actually feels worse than the Reagan was the girl Joanna Wetrick, who is a 22-year-old Australian high rocks athlete. I mean, you can't have missed this, it's all over the internet. She basically had bowel incontinence. I'm trying to be really respectful of Joanna's, which is here, she doesn't know talking about stuff.

• 32:53Speaker 00

  No, I don't like scatology.

• 32:57Speaker 01

  Bell incontinence.

• 32:58Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, thank you.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  And so when you do high rocks, you're doing like a kilometer run, and then you're doing like 20 burpees, and then a kilometer run, and then you're doing like 20, like arm raises or something like that. I haven't done it, but it's this really serious competition. She actually went on to win the competition, but everybody is like up in arms because they don't think that she should have run because she had, she basically soiled the whole course. And like, anyone else competing, you don't wanna be running and touching someone else's bowel incontinence.

• 33:30Speaker 00

  Shut, shit, you can say it, folk, you can say it. I'm making an exception today. The woman shattered off.

• 33:35Speaker 01

  It was all, like, I mean, it was like waterfalls down the back of her legs, splattering all over the course. They had to then try and clean it up, and, and it was ju-

• 33:45Speaker 02

  Okay, there's the limit.

• 33:46Speaker 00

  Okay, yeah, we fit the wall.

• 33:50Speaker 01

  But I just thought, like, you know the way you see runners, Paula Radcliffe, was that her name, Jo?

• 33:55Speaker 02

  That was her name.

• 33:56Speaker 01

  I, I can't not, I can't never, if I think about someone doing something like that, running, I'm like Paula Radcliffe, Paula Radcliffe, because she really needed to have a bowel movement and ended up doing it on herself during a run, because runners are really competitive. But I feel like that's slightly different, because at least you're like outdoors and you're just running. And like, the chances of you walking in dog shit anywhere are like very high. But like this, unlike Jim Matz, and spreading it all over the place, and everyone else having to put their hands down and do burpees, I mean, I feel like she should have been asked to stop.

• 34:28Speaker 00

  Sonia Sullivan had to abandon a race.

• 34:32Speaker 01

  I don't know if she did it publicly, though.

• 34:34Speaker 00

  No, she didn't. She ran off. I remember everyone was like, where's she going? She just started running off in the middle of the race, and then it turned out, apparently it's quite common, Gary Lineker has shot himself before.

• 34:43Speaker 01

  What did Gary Lineker shit himself?

• 34:46Speaker 00

  Can we fact check that, Jo?

• 34:48Speaker 01

  During a match?

• 34:50Speaker 00

  Yeah. Listen, happens to the best of us. If you're gonna sport-

• 34:53Speaker 01

  I know somebody who was swimming and shot in the sea, like, because they were doing a swimming race, and just shot in the sea, just like pulled, pulled their tugs down.

• 35:05Speaker 00

  Yeah. I mean, look, each to their own. I, the fact that people would still compete in that, I mean, if I got my bra strap twisted, I'd jump, I'd drop out of any sort of physical activity. If I, you know what I mean? If I yawned, I'd be like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not able, I'm not ready.

• 35:23Speaker 01

  I mean-

• 35:23Speaker 00

  This is my question, this is my question, to these elite athletes, athletes like the high rocks woman and Reagan, who I am, I am now calling an elite athlete.

• 35:33Speaker 01

  She did say, she did come out, she said a win is a win, when everyone was getting pissed off at her, and I'm like-

• 35:37Speaker 00

  She's taken it down. She's taken it down.

• 35:40Speaker 01

  A win, that's, I, no, it doesn't feel like a win because it's not fair in everyone else, because I wouldn't be able to continue competing if I was one of the other athletes, and having to run through that.

• 35:52Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, I think shame would take me out of the track, to be totally honest. Do you know what I mean? Like, I can't even, we, like, even if I had a tampon string showing up, like, oh my God.

• 36:07Speaker 00

  Two questions. One, and I'm including Reagan on this, where is the, have we lost the art of ringing in sick?

• 36:16Speaker 01

  I don't, I feel like people are getting more and more competitive. This, back in the day, I don't think that this would have happened. You can't be doing that.

• 36:23Speaker 00

  Ray, this woman shot herself physically, Reagan shot herself emotionally and spiritually, right? But they, both of them should have rang in sick. You're, you're at the game, there is something running down the inside of your leg. It obviously happened in the middle of the game. I think the play, firstly, everyone's like, it's a biohazard. I was like, guys, it's, it's, she's not fucking Chernobyl. Like, it's only a bit of shit.

• 36:43Speaker 01

  It is a biohazard. You can get sick from that. You can't be, yeah. You can't be like, I mean-

• 36:51Speaker 00

  What about the men in Dubai who got sex workers to shit in their, to shit in their face? What about, is that a biohazard?

• 36:57Speaker 02

  That's their business.

• 36:58Speaker 01

  Loads of people like being shot on, but at least they're cleaning themselves up. I don't know. Listen, I don't, I don't know.

• 37:03Speaker 00

  I don't know the end of the day.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  I have a real issue with this. I have a real, there's lots of things I'd let slide, but I just wouldn't let this slide.

• 37:10Speaker 02

  Oh, no, no, letting it slide is not the words. It's not the words.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  I didn't even mean to do that. She's there doing wall balls, touching the ball and throwing it against the wall, and then just like dropping as she goes down. It's just, it's so unacceptable.

• 37:26Speaker 00

  I think she should have been pulled, that the, the kind of, the ongoing debate is, should she have quit herself? Should she have been pulled? People are like, how come I get penalties if my knee doesn't, you're not allowed spit and all this stuff, and then she was allowed openly shit herself and continue on. Listen, it's the motive, it's, it's the drive that blows my mind.

• 37:48Speaker 01

  They hadn't written shitting themsel, shit, shitting yourself into like their rules, because they just never expected it to, we don't need to do that, that's obviously not gonna happen. But I, I agree with you, the drive, like, if I go for a run, well, I haven't gone ages, but like, I could go, I'll be like, right, I'm gonna try and do a 3K run. I could do 200 metres and say, do you know what? No, couldn't be fucking with us, and I'll have, please stop.

• 38:09Speaker 00

  I know, not today. I tried.

• 38:11Speaker 01

  Don't push yourself.

• 38:12Speaker 00

  I tried. I tried.

• 38:14Speaker 01

  Go you. Let's go for a cross on instead.

• 38:17Speaker 00

  Do you remember I got my period on stage in the SSE in Belfast? And remember, like, the drama around that, which I regret now, I should have just owned it. No, I tell you, I will moving forward, I can tell you. I might plan it.

• 38:31Speaker 01

  Get ready, San Francisco.

• 38:33Speaker 00

  I might plan.

• 38:34Speaker 01

  Dallas.

• 38:35Speaker 00

  Just openly bleed, yeah. Um, but yeah, I, do you know what, I, as always, because I'm porous, I feel sorry for everyone involved. I feel sorry for Reagan, I feel sorry for the high rocks girl, I feel sorry for the medicine ball, I feel sorry for the other people involved in the high rocks, I feel sorry for the people who can get through-

• 38:50Speaker 01

  I feel annoyed with the high rocks girl. I know it's so stupid, but I, I could just, I just, it's just one step too far for me. It's one of those things I just can't stand. You don't like talking about it, I don't like being around it.

• 39:01Speaker 00

  Yeah, I do. I love being around it, yeah. You know that. That's why I can't talk about it, because I miss it so much.

• 39:13Speaker 00

  It's funny for some, and it's that thing, it's just the hypocrisy of it. We all do it. We had to see it publicly happen. And, and you know what I'm gonna say? I'm gonna say it. If she was a woman, sorry, no, she is a woman, sorry. I'm gonna say it, sorry, Joe. If she, if she was a man, I guarantee there wouldn't be the same thing, there wouldn't be the same discourse. It's because she's a woman and it's like, ew, women having bowel movements and having bodily functions, gross.

• 39:40Speaker 01

  I think it's for, I think it's for anyone. I think this is very equal for men and women. It's probably the only equal thing. Everyone would be just annoyed as a man doing that on the high rocks.

• 39:52Speaker 00

  I don't know. I think they'd be like, what a beast. Look at him in beast mode. Yeah. And Joe Rogan would, Joe Rogan would have him on and he'd be like, the face of, I don't know, some male diaper or something. You know what I mean? I could see them. I could just see if it was a man. There'd be a whole marketing campaign. He'd be like.

• 40:11Speaker 01

  I think, I feel there's nothing more embarrassing in your own adult human life than something like that happening to you. There's just no, there's not, like, there's nothing more embarrassing.

• 40:20Speaker 00

  Either she goes to Korea and gets a full facelift at a reasonable cost, because that's where everyone's going now. Or she has to just lean in. I, I, I mean, I'm sure there'll be a Netflix special. I look forward to it. I'll play the medicine ball.

• 40:34Speaker 01

  Do it again. Do it again.

• 40:38Speaker 00

  I'd like to audition for the rowing machine.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  This is why I don't want to do ayahuasca, ayahuasca, whatever you call it. I don't want to be in a room with everyone doing this to themselves.

• 40:48Speaker 00

  They don't, you don't shit yourself. You just, you just vomit.

• 40:50Speaker 01

  You do, no, you vom and shit.

• 40:53Speaker 00

  Sorry, can we try a fact check, Joe, please?

• 40:56Speaker 01

  You do. I know people who have done it. And like, the whole room is just this fucking stench-filled disgust. I don't want that.

• 41:04Speaker 00

  Well, I'm sure.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  An outer body experience amongst that.

• 41:07Speaker 00

  The high rocks woman is clearly gonna bring out a line of gym gear that you can soil yourself in without anyone noticing, because that's her only choice. So we'll wear them to the ayahuasca.

• 41:17Speaker 01

  Actually, what shorts was she wearing? I thought they were like leggings. Leggings surely would have kept it in.

• 41:23Speaker 00

  The muscle on her, my God, like, she is ripped.

• 41:29Speaker 02

  If, if, if you are going to go and experience ayahuasca, you should know that it can stimulate both upper and lower digestive releases, it says here.

• 41:42Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, you know what? How can you, if you're gonna have your mind opened, I guess you have to, you know, other things are gonna open too. I'm willing to take the hit.

• 41:50Speaker 02

  All lots open. All just open.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  You're so evolved.

• 41:54Speaker 00

  Just not for me.

• 41:55Speaker 01

  You're just out of it. I don't think you even know you're doing it. And then you're stuck, everyone else is, oh God, please, no, I couldn't.

• 42:02Speaker 00

  You're too busy having epiphanies and all.

• 42:06Speaker 00

  You know?

• 42:07Speaker 01

  Are we gonna talk about Sydney Sweeney or no?

• 42:10Speaker 00

  Yeah, go on. Poor, sorry now, John, don't say, just gonna start with poor Sydney Sweeney.

• 42:16Speaker 01

  Sydney, Sydney, Sydney Sweeney, if you ever want to employ her for an ad, you know she'll go viral for you.

• 42:24Speaker 00

  People really hate her.

• 42:25Speaker 01

  American Eagle campaign.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  Sydney Sweeney has gone viral again this week, because she is doing an ad for Novig, which is a sports prediction gambling site. So it's gambling and it's sports, but she's pretty much naked with like, with like, what are they called? American footballs.

• 42:48Speaker 02

  It's not pretty much.

• 42:49Speaker 00

  Yeah, she is, yeah. She's the full nude.

• 42:52Speaker 01

  If I looked like her, I probably wouldn't wear much clothes.

• 42:54Speaker 00

  This is the thing.

• 42:55Speaker 01

  Ever.

• 42:56Speaker 00

  This is the thing. Female athletes are annoyed, which I understand, because they're like, you're sexualizing something that we are trying not to sexualize and everything. But like, people are trying to figure out, is the ad sexist? Is it setting women forward? Is it setting women back? It's like, but it's, it's a gambling ad. I mean, arguing over the purpose, arguing over the message behind it. You're basically just rearranging cushions in a crackdown. It's gambling at the end of the day. Who cares? Who cares?

• 43:22Speaker 01

  She actually, she actually got away with the fact that it's a gambling ad. Like, you know the way you need to get loads of backlash for a gambling ad? She's gotten away with that. No one's even noticed it's for a gambling site.

• 43:33Speaker 00

  It's a gambling company that she has shares in. So like, people are like, she's exploiting the male gaze. She's invoicing the male gaze. She's making a shit ton of money off these ads. I, I find Sydney Sweeney, firsty, Vogue, Sydney, her, her boobs.

• 43:49Speaker 01

  Is she a Trump supporter? Do I think she's a Trump supporter?

• 43:52Speaker 00

  She's, she's vaguely, vaguely Republican-coded.

• 43:58Speaker 01

  Oh.

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  And, yeah, and so the last ad for the jeans.

• 44:02Speaker 01

  Well, then the ad's not the worst thing about her, is it?

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  Yeah, there you go. I think, because there, there was the kind of controversy over the last ad. Sydney's got good jeans. I thought it was kind of a nod to eugenics and, which, I mean, look, I don't, I think that's a stretch, but anyway, look, whatever, I'm not in America. But this, she's like an ink blot, whereas people see different things. Men see sex, women see problems. She's setting us back, moving us forward. Nobody knows, but she, her boobs and body have sold jeans, soap, lingerie, cinema tickets. Gambling, like her, her tits have a bigger portfolio than you only put together, Vogue, and.

• 44:44Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 44:45Speaker 00

  She is creaming that cash. Creaming the cash.

• 44:50Speaker 01

  I mean, it, it is her decision, like, I mean, maybe she won't think it's, it's questionable because she probably got paid an absolute fortune for it. But like, you do do things in your career that you're like, oh, I probably wouldn't do that now, actually. But maybe she'd, maybe we'd all do that if we knew what she got paid. If it's from a betting company, I'd say she got a few mil for that one. But she always kind of sexualizes herself, though. That's like her thing now. Like, it's the same in, in Euphoria and everything. Everyone had a really big issue with her, with who she was playing in Euphoria and how she was just sexualizing herself and that. But like, if that's the way she wants to do things, then it's her own body. It's her own body. She can do whatever she wants.

• 45:29Speaker 00

  She can do what she want. It's, it's like, every time she gets her, it's like she doesn't release ads, she just triggers culture wars. Every ad she does. Someone was saying, so the general argument is either she's kind of doing it all on purpose and she knows what she's doing and she's setting us all back. Or people are like, she's a marketing genius. I'm like, I wouldn't call her, sorry now, and like, no disrespect, Sid, because I, you know, you're, you're doing your thing.

• 45:53Speaker 01

  Sid.

• 45:54Speaker 00

  Sid. Sid. She's gone out with Scooter Braun. Mad. Anyway, but like.

• 45:59Speaker 01

  He's a bit problematic as well, though, in himself.

• 46:02Speaker 00

  I'm not, I'm not gonna go so far as to say being nude is, is, is, is marketing genius. It's not like, it's not, it's not genius. It's a move. It's a, it's a statement. I wouldn't call it genius now. Do you know what I mean? Anyway, people really love to hate it.

• 46:20Speaker 01

  I know. But there is always that thing, there's always a pile on on somebody, isn't there? It's, it's kind of, it's kind of mad, or the whole world just likes to pile on certain people.

• 46:31Speaker 00

  She's, she should, I'm gonna say she should have rung in sick as well. The three of them should have. Raygun, high rocks woman, Sid Sweeney.

• 46:40Speaker 01

  Take it.

• 46:41Speaker 00

  All of them rang in sick.

• 46:41Speaker 01

  Take a duvet day. Take a duvet day.

• 46:44Speaker 00

  High rocks woman, so I looked into it. I think she only gets about 35 grand for winning that high rocks. I'm pretty sure, um, Raygun didn't get anything for going to the Olympics. So at least Sydney Sweeney's making a bit of cash.

• 46:54Speaker 01

  Olympians, well, Olympians, if you, if you, if you earn money, different countries pay each Olympian different amounts of money. And some of them get paid a shitload of money. Like, I think American athletes get paid a lot of money. Who's the highest paid? What country pays their athletes the most, Joe? There's some that, like, I think Sweden pay them a lot of money. But like, it's four years of your life and you mightn't make any money from it, surely? So you have to be just, so in fairness to Raygun, I don't think she put four years of her life into it, but.

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  She didn't. I mean, the general.

• 47:22Speaker 01

  I think she just showed up on the day.

• 47:24Speaker 00

  There was, there wasn't, I don't think, I don't think she was doing it 24/7. I'd say you do more training for Strictly, frankly, than she did for the Olympics.

• 47:32Speaker 01

  There's a lot of training in Strictly, yeah. You definitely do more.

• 47:36Speaker 00

  Even you, you did the Christmas special. I think you were training more for Strictly than she did for the actual Olympics. You did. You did. You jived your way into the ground.

• 47:47Speaker 01

  I didn't jive my way anywhere.

• 47:49Speaker 02

  If you win an individual gold medal for Singapore, you can win up to 787,000 US dollars.

• 47:59Speaker 01

  See, that's pretty good. Look at that. Tax free. Written off.

• 48:04Speaker 02

  I can look into it for you if, if you're eligible for Singapore.

• 48:08Speaker 00

  I'm just looking up, is shit actually a biohazard? Because I, if it is, like.

• 48:13Speaker 01

  11/11, make a wish, quick. I can't let it pass by. Go.

• 48:17Speaker 00

  That is what started the cholera epidemic, the one that I like to talk about with your man, Jon Snow and the pump. It was a baby's nappy was thrown into the sewage system and the baby had cholera. But then the baby didn't start the cholera, if there would be hot girls, it's all very chicken or egg. Hold on.

• 48:31Speaker 01

  Okay, everyone, that's it. Thank you so much for listening.

• 48:34Speaker 00

  Oh, yeah, yes. Human and, human and animal faeces are considered a biological hazard because they carried harmful germs that can cause serious illness. E. coli and salmonella. I take it back.

• 48:49Speaker 02

  Have a good weekend, everyone.

• 48:50Speaker 01

  My neighbor's dogs were called Sam and Ella, two, two golden retrievers. Yeah, I told them that for, like, salmonella.

• 48:59Speaker 00

  That's really funny. I like that.

• 49:01Speaker 02

  Say bye.

• 49:03Speaker 00

  Where's the contamination? I have to answer some questions here to get my full response.

• 49:10Speaker 00

  Bye.

• 49:12Speaker 01

  See you soon.