Oíche Mhaith, 30D & Let Them Off

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  This is a Global Player original podcast.

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  Welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Joanne McNally, and

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  me, Vogue Williams.

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  Vogue Williams and Jo Attiwell.

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  Can I talk about Mel Robbins for a second?

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  Mel Robbins, which one's that now? Because I know that other fellow, what's his name? You know him. I always try and bring him up when you bring up Mel Robbins and I never know what his name is.

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  Robert Greene.

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  No, and he go, oh, she's an author.

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  Mel Robbins, podcast host, former lawyer. She is known for her TED Talk, How to Stop Screwing Yourself Over, and her book, The Let Them Theory. Okay, so she's kind of like a, I would say, self-helpy territory. But she's, she's having a real moment at the moment, and I think she's great. I really like her podcast and stuff. But she has this, what she's calling a theory, right? And it's called the let them theory, and it's kind of doing the rounds at the moment. And everyone's kind of engaging this Mel Robbins theory called let them. So if someone wants to break up with you, let them. If someone wants to not invite you to a party, let them. If someone wants to fuck you over, let them. Yeah, exactly, and thank them. Send a thank you card for not interfering with your life.

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  And it's, so it's this kind of, it's, it's, it's kind of stoicism. It's like, it's, it's just like, let it be kind of thing.

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  Yeah.

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  But, and no offence to Mel Robbins, because I'm a fan, but it's so weird that people are going on like she's invented this theory. Let them. It's basically fuck them. It's fuck them.

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  I know, it's fuck them, but it's also like, it's one of the hardest things to do as well. Like, if someone breaks up with you and you're like, okay, fine. Spencer breaks up with me tomorrow, okay, fine. I'll let you, I'll let you, and I'll do nothing about it. Yeah, right. I'll be ringing you non-stop.

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  You just start to kind of suck some shit up. But like, we were growing up, we all had this saying that we used to say to each other going, let them off. So let them off, let them off, let them off. Like if someone, if you brought a complaint to one of your friends, this person screwed me over and they've said this mean thing or they've done this mean thing, we'd be like, do you know what, let them off. And it kind of releases it from you. I just thought it was very strange the way people are kind of acting like Mel Robbins has coined this let them off thing.

• 2:26Speaker 02

  Well, why don't you, why don't you bring back, what was that? Sorry, you just said, no.

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  Let, let them off, let them off.

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  Yeah. You, you, she can have let them. Let them off. Do you want to read McNally's new book, Let Them Off?

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  Let them off, fuck them. That's my book. It'd be like, Jo, if Josie left you for another man, right? And you were, obviously, I assume you'd be perturbed.

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  Yeah. Yeah, yeah. Perturbed.

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  Would you be perturbed? Yeah, you'd be a bit perturbed.

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  Some perturbation.

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  Bit of anguish, yeah.

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  There'd be, there'd be a sprinkling of perturbation, for sure. And so if I was just like, do you know what, let her off. Because also I feel the harder, the more you try to hold on to something, you know that saying, let go or be dragged? So you can, you can be dragged, you can, it's, it is, it's the, it's the let go, it's the let, it's a let it go theory, basically. And it's, and it does work, it really does work if you kind of engage your core and you're like, do you know what, let them. Because do you know why? The more you let them, the chances are they'll come back around, which is ultimately what we want. It's revenge.

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  I know, but whoever, come on, it's like, I love the sound of let them and it sounds amazing and I'd love to be a part of the let them gang. But like, I think when you're on the other side of the let them, if you're not, if you're not the let them person. And you're the one that has to be like, oh, I have to let them, then you're like, oh no, this is really hard.

• 3:43Speaker 01

  Hold on. You mean if you're not the person doing the thing that they need to let?

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  Yeah, if I'm not being let, I don't, if I have to be the let them, I'd rather be the let.

• 3:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's a lens, you have, it's a way of thinking that you have to kind of practise because, yeah, it's, but it's all, I mean, I know I'm getting real woo woo now, but it's all, a lot of it's just ego based. So if you can kind of park your ego and say, a lot of it's rejection or you feel, a lot of the time when people reject you, they kind of trigger a belief that you already have about yourself. And that's where the kind of trauma or the pain comes from. You're like, I knew I was a piece of shit. And the only way to not feel like a piece of shit is to win their approval back, which is why we're always grappling with these. Feelings when her exes move on, blah, blah, blah. Anyway, that's all I'm saying. Let them, let them, it's not new. That's all I'm saying. But I do really like her. And if she wants to have me on her pod, I think you go on.

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  And debate it with her.

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  Oh, she'll be thrilled now to have you.

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  I think you mean fuck them, Mel. I think that's what you're saying. But you're trying to say it in a sounder way. It's a more kind of namaste way. But it's ultimately, they can go fuck themselves.

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  I, my therapist has this thing with, with anxiety, like when I go into like an anxious spiral. And he's like, did you do the flow thing? And I'm like, yeah. Right when I was about to pull my own eyes out of their sockets, I sat there and I said, do the flow thing. Like, it's really hard to just sit. But I can't actually remember what it is. I wrote it down.

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  I was like, you're gonna have to tell us what the flow thing is.

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  It's basically about like releasing stuff and like they all like stand for something. I tried to Google it there. I have it written down in my, in my journal at home. But like, it's very hard when you're being really anxious to then try and flow to be unanxious. It's just, it's even with like the breathing techniques, in for seven, hold for three, out for 11. I know it's meant to work.

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  I, yeah, I'm the same. I, I'm quite reactive. It's hard to remember to breathe. Like if I'm upset or angry, I might stop breathing altogether, let alone work through my breath work. They say, I, I, I hear a lot about breath work at the moment. I hear a lot about breath work.

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  Spenny said that you, it's, you can get a feeling of being like you're high if you do this special type of breath work that people do, like this mad kind of breath. Yeah.

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  I can vouch for that. Wim Hof.

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  Oh, yeah.

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  There's a, yeah, but is he the Wim Hof one?

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  Yeah, he's, he's the ice bath dude. Right, yeah.

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  But I, but Spenny said he was, because he used to do all these breathing things. And then he was on his motorbike at a traffic lights and he did it. And he was like, oh my God, he felt like he was gonna faint. Like he, he, just be doing it, sitting down. Don't be doing it, operating any kind of machinery, because it's meant to be wild.

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  It's like hyperventilating on purpose. You flood your blood with oxygen and it makes you feel all wooey and sort of bit drunk.

• 6:32Speaker 01

  So is the point of that to distract you from the pain that you're feeling in the moment? Is to almost knock yourself unconscious? Is that, is it just a distraction method?

• 6:40Speaker 02

  Well, the breathing one, the one in for, in for like seven or something and hold for three. It's because you're concentrating, you're not counting, you don't usually count your breaths. So if you're like in for seven, you're counting and you're holding for three. So you're so focused on that, that it's making you forget about everything else while calming you down.

• 6:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, so it's distraction. It's kind of to re-center yourself. It's like touch grass. It's that thing of kind of re-center and don't let your brain run away with itself.

• 7:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, well, yeah, and it's, well, it's hard to catch it sometimes. When it does do a runner, it's much like a horse on a track.

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  It's very hard, it is. It's very hard to get that crazy horse back in the stable, isn't it?

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  It's only when it gets back into the stable and you're like, whoa, that was a real crazy time there.

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  12 laps of paranoia later. Oh, it's coming back.

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  Come back. Come back, yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  Bucking around the place for a while.

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  We're all mad. I was reading a story the other day about the, a man who died, it was a jockey who was in the middle of a horse race.

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  Yeah.

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  And he died of a heart attack while he was on the horse, but no one realised. And the horse finished the race and he is still historically the only dead person to finish a horse race.

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  Stop.

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  He had a heart attack, they think it was because you know, jockeys have to keep.

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  And stayed on.

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  He was, they're strapped on the legs and no one noticed. They're all clapping him as he crossed the line and he was fucking full blown dead.

• 8:03Speaker 02

  You're not, you're not strapped on, you're, you're, you're not strapped on, your feet are just in stirrups. How the hell did he manage to stay on?

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  I get, yeah, I don't know.

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  A fantastic jockey, even in death.

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  Let me Google it, hold on a second, because it was actually five minutes.

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  There is no worse feeling than when a horse takes a run with you. There is honestly, because you're sitting there and you're like, that's it. In about less than a minute, I'm going to be thrown off this horse and I'm going to end up in hospital.

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  Frank Hayes remains the only jockey to win a race posthumously. The horse, Sweet Kiss, earned the ominous nickname, The Sweet Kiss of Death, and never raced again. He won. He won. I forgot he won. He won. There you go. You're the one holding it. Next time, Vogue, you're not winning a horse race. Unalive yourself if you can mid-race and you'll fucking steal the show.

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  I'll try. I'll actually try my best.

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  If he was on a 20 to 1, you'd have made loads of cash. Bet responsibly.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  Bet responsibly, yeah. Had a heart attack in the middle of the race.

• 8:59Speaker 02

  Jeez, I can't believe he stayed on. That is wild. Maybe he went into, I don't know.

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  Maybe he went. What's happened when the body freezes real quick?

• 9:06Speaker 02

  I was gonna say rickamortis. Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Did he rickamortis really quick? Rickamortis goes away. I told you this before. So you get rickamortis, you go all, ugh, and then it goes away.

• 9:16Speaker 01

  Hmm.

• 9:17Speaker 02

  Oh, God, gross. I hate it.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  So you can relax in the afterlife. You're not frigid.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  No, you don't want to be frigid in the afterlife. I saw about another jockey that died recently. It's really sad. It's a very dangerous sport.

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  It is. And it's because they have to keep themselves, they have to keep themselves so skinny as well, you see. They think because it puts pressure on their horse and stuff. Anyway, look, race responsibly.

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  Can you imagine what the horse that I was riding in that race thought when this nearly six footer came along? He was like, excuse me, what is this thing? No, John.

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  The horse had body dysmorphia. It was like, I didn't realise it was a Shetland pony.

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  Why have I shrank? Yeah.

• 9:54Speaker 02

  We'd no chance. We'd no bloody chance. Did you hear bandana tops are back in?

• 10:00Speaker 01

  Well, I can't say I'm completely surprised.

• 10:03Speaker 02

  I've already bought a lilac bandana.

• 10:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, good for you.

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm gonna rock it in the summer. That's the one thing. I think, big boob girls, you get loads of other tops. I get bandanas.

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  Yeah.

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  Because I can tie that around my flat chest.

• 10:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, no, fair.

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  Fits.

• 10:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. Do you even need a bandana? We don't just get a roll of tissue paper and it wouldn't even crack.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  Just two little napkins just on the front.

• 10:30Speaker 01

  They're like, there's a topless boy in Battersea.

• 10:35Speaker 02

  There is nothing that sparks more rage amongst people that follow me on Instagram as to when I say I'm a 30D. They can't bear it. They can't bear it.

• 10:44Speaker 01

  Well, it is. As lies go, you'd usually want to be able to slightly prove a lie or have some suspension of belief, whereas that's just factually incorrect. It's very visibly factually incorrect.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  Excuse me. Sorry. 30D.

• 10:58Speaker 01

  I don't know if she... I can't tell because you've carried this on for so long now. I can't tell if this is actually real or not real. I don't know. Was it a minus DD? Was it 30 minus DD?

• 11:08Speaker 02

  You and I are going on a date to Marks and Spencer or Victoria's Secret, whichever you'd prefer. And I'm going to get measured in front of you on a date.

• 11:16Speaker 01

  No, folk, all joking aside, do you actually think you're a 32 double D?

• 11:21Speaker 02

  No, I'm a 30D. Joanne, why don't you... Is it you on Instagram who keeps sending me those messages? Is it you? It's like my bra size.

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  But like, no, not even for the pod. I'm genuinely curious. Do you actually think you're... Do you think you're not?

• 11:37Speaker 02

  Joanne, I got measured and it's because at the back is 30. So 30 is like the out, like how far you go out. Like if you're like a 34, you're going to go out further.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  So mine is only a 30. So a 30D isn't actually a big size.

• 11:55Speaker 01

  Aha. Oh, yay. Sorry. The alphabet goes backwards for bras at one point. Is that right?

• 12:03Speaker 02

  Joanne McNally, right? I'll finish this with you in the dressing rooms in Marks and Spencer.

• 12:07Speaker 01

  Certainly will.

• 12:08Speaker 02

  I will. I'll buy you a new... No, you'll buy me the bra I choose. You'll buy me three.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  Well, I mean, now that I realise how it works and that it's absolutely tiny, I will buy you a bra because you're a cheap date. There's no fucking, no material needed. I think that was you suggested it was a double D. Was that what confused people?

• 12:25Speaker 02

  No, I never suggested that, Joanne, because I'm a very honest girl. 30D was all I ever said. And now that poor woman in Marks and Spencer is at risk of losing her job because everyone's complaining.

• 12:34Speaker 01

  It does sound like a conspiracy theory, but listen, you've got a great rack.

• 12:37Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 12:45Speaker 01

  There's a power in saying no, you know, the power of no. Not the power of no, isn't that a cartel, but the power of no. Would I bring that one out? I'll bring that book out, yeah, the power of no.

• 13:02Speaker 01

  I am genuinely pricing going to see the Backstreet Boys in the Sphere in August.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Oh, I'd love, oh, now, I, did you hear your man singing recently? Brian.

• 13:14Speaker 01

  Oh, they're not gonna be singing, are they? I just think they'd just be kind of lip syncing and dancing.

• 13:18Speaker 02

  No, they're trying to do the whole shebang.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  Oh, then I'll leave it, so.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  Why don't you go, why don't you go and pretend you didn't have a good time, like you too?

• 13:28Speaker 01

  I thought I was gonna enjoy Backstreet Boys, I didn't realise it was a vanity project for them where they're actually gonna put us through them singing.

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  I just wanted to twirl around and dance. I want it. I just, that's all I wanted.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  I don't know if you can go, I think, I know in fairness, I'd go if it wasn't in Las Vegas, because I just, I don't really like Vegas. I've been a few times, I don't love it, it's not really my vibe, it's too far away.

• 13:52Speaker 01

  It's the Sphere though, Vogue, I mean, come on, you gotta see the Sphere.

• 13:55Speaker 02

  I know, but I think, I think London is gonna make its own Sphere. Again, I'm just putting that out there, I just assumed that that would happen. No, I've made that up completely.

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  Oh.

• 14:04Speaker 02

  Doesn't, wouldn't that make sense that we'd make our own Sphere? Pitbull could play, I'd go see Pitbull in a Sphere.

• 14:09Speaker 01

  Jeez, he's playing in Dublin.

• 14:12Speaker 02

  He's already played, I missed it, and I couldn't see him in London either, which is heartbreaking because I was away, but anyway.

• 14:17Speaker 01

  He's announced something, Pitbull has announced something.

• 14:20Speaker 02

  No, Joanne, I think, don't get me excited now because I don't think he has, I think he already did it.

• 14:26Speaker 03

  Pitbull is coming back to Ireland after hit Dublin gig.

• 14:30Speaker 01

  Shut the frick up!

• 14:32Speaker 02

  When?

• 14:33Speaker 03

  5th of June.

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  5th of June, ah, listen, that's it, that's where I'm going. No, maybe he'll go to London, look how lazy I guess, I'm just like, nah, I'm not going to the Sphere, I'll stay in London, they'll make their own. Pitbull, nah, not Dublin, I'll wait.

• 14:45Speaker 01

  I don't know him at all.

• 14:47Speaker 02

  Mr Worldwide?

• 14:48Speaker 01

  Is his first name Pit, second name Bull, or is it like one stage name, what's his?

• 14:51Speaker 02

  One stage, ah, Joanne, okay.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  Like Piddle?

• 14:54Speaker 02

  P, exactly, Pitbull, go listen to him when you go to the gym and you'll just be like, banger, banger, banger, banger.

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  Really?

• 15:01Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 15:02Speaker 01

  Oh, okay, okay, I like a banger, okay.

• 15:04Speaker 03

  9th of June, 9th of June.

• 15:06Speaker 01

  I've never seen that man before in my life.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  I can't believe it.

• 15:09Speaker 01

  Have you, Jo?

• 15:10Speaker 02

  Of course he has.

• 15:12Speaker 03

  Yeah, not my genre especially, but I'm aware of his work.

• 15:15Speaker 01

  Oh, aware of his work, yeah.

• 15:16Speaker 02

  He wears sunglasses everywhere. There is a better picture of him.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, it's like us somewhere hungover on the pod.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  He's obviously using the same tactic. Good for him.

• 15:25Speaker 02

  He does that song with Jennifer Lopez, "Get on the floor." Okay, you're gonna have the best time. Yes.

• 15:33Speaker 01

  Oh, well, I know that song and I don't, I'm not, I'm not a fan, I have to say. Hmm. Listen, I'm not the right person to talk about music to. I, I like what I like.

• 15:42Speaker 02

  I just always try.

• 15:44Speaker 01

  You're speaking to the woman who's trying to fly to Las Vegas to see Backstreet Boys. Like, I'm the opposite of a muse though. And I'm, and I'm raging that they're gonna sing. Do you know what I mean? Like, I just wanna dance.

• 15:57Speaker 01

  Please don't sing, guys. Please, come on. We've travelled far. Come on. Just lip sync, come on. We're so much better. Like, I don't, I don't care about people singing live. I couldn't give a shit. I don't find it impressive. Like, sorry, it is impressive. What I'm saying is, it doesn't bother me that they don't. No, I just wanna see them twirling around on the stage, music blaring, like full Britney. Britney, lip sync, do it like a pro.

• 16:20Speaker 02

  I saw Britney twice lip syncing and she was brilliant.

• 16:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, she's great at lip syncing. She, she invented lip syncing. She should be huge on TikTok, technically.

• 16:27Speaker 02

  And she's a really good dancer, so she has to dance.

• 16:31Speaker 01

  And you can't do both.

• 16:33Speaker 02

  I know.

• 16:33Speaker 01

  I can't even walk and sing, let alone fucking dance like a pro.

• 16:38Speaker 02

  We're expecting too much. Here, do you ever get insulted by a dog? I had a weird moment yesterday. I walked by this dog outside a coffee shop and I really wanted to pet it because it was one of those Bernese mountain dogs. You know, those huge dogs.

• 16:53Speaker 01

  Yeah, they're great.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  Which then randomly yesterday, I ended up seeing four of them. One sitting in the back of the car, driving in front of me. And I, it was really weird. It was like they were just going against me. But anyway, I saw this dog on the way in and I was like a bit scarred because like there was three people sitting around a table with this dog. And then on the way in, I literally couldn't help myself. I was like, oh, can I pet your dog? And he was like, yeah. And then the dog, literally, which was lying down happy, got up and completely backed away from like my. Hand was made of hammers.

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:20Speaker 02

  I was like, what the hell is going on? And it's really embarrassing.

• 17:24Speaker 01

  I've had that with kids and it's really embarrassing when someone's like, oh, look at your auntie Joanne. They're like, yeah. Or the second you touch them, they start crying. Yeah, I just.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  It's so humiliating.

• 17:36Speaker 01

  I'm a dog gal, they know, they know I'm on their side. Dogs love me. Kids, not so much. I struggle with the kids. The kids thing is kind of embarrassing because they're reaching for the parents and then I just want to go, fuck you then. Let them.

• 17:48Speaker 02

  I don't want to hold you anyway.

• 17:49Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:50Speaker 02

  It's a lot.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, if the child wants to go back to their parents, let them. Okay, let them.

• 17:56Speaker 02

  She's back on this, she's back on.

• 17:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. See you in the ring, Mal.

• 18:02Speaker 01

  Can I, can I wish a happy anniversary to something that's very close to my heart?

• 18:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:07Speaker 01

  I would like to wish a happy anniversary. It's our first anniversary together. And can I say, since this event took place, my life has been different and significantly better. Happy anniversary to the Willy Wonka experience. It's a year. Since it lit up the world with its shite-ness. And I am just so pleased to see it thriving and surviving. Can I just do a breakdown of where they are all now? Okay.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:38Speaker 01

  And this is a great example of all press is good press. Unless you're the organizers, then maybe not so much, but the, but the crew, the cast, and we are calling them a cast. We are calling them a cast.

• 18:51Speaker 02

  They were, it was an acting job.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  It was an acting job.

• 18:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:55Speaker 01

  It was an acting job. Since their, since the shambolic event in Glasgow where police were called, it was 35 quid a ticket. They got three jelly beans, kids are crying, it was carnage.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 19:08Speaker 01

  Since then, there has been, it took off, went viral, as we all know, we all loved it. It was so shit, it was hilarious and no one was harmed, which is why we can laugh so hard. It's made it onto SNL.

• 19:20Speaker 02

  Did it?

• 19:21Speaker 01

  Sydney Sweeney, is it Sydney Sweeney did a sketch about them on SNL? They cracked America, they were in the, there was a huge, big article about it in the New York Post. Felicia Dawkins.

• 19:33Speaker 01

  Sorry, and here's me working my hole off. Can't get fucking arrested in the States. Had I known, I just would have fucking took part in the Willy Wonka experience. You're one, the Sajin Palupa's in LA taking meetings.

• 19:45Speaker 02

  Shut up!

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, she's in LA. So there's a company in LA have recreated it for LA. So she's been flown over as like the special guest and they're doing it exactly, they're giving less jelly beans. Forty-five dollars a ticket, two jelly beans. They're gonna make it even shitter than it was the first time. They're absolutely thrilled to themselves. All these really famous comedians are involved. Americans love us. She's in LA taking meetings, she's networking, she's been signed, she thinks she's gonna get a job as a children's TV presenter.

• 20:13Speaker 02

  Signed by who? A children's TV presenter? She looks so sad.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  I know. But she's lit up since then. It was, she was having a shit day at the office.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Fair, no, fair, fair, fair, fair.

• 20:25Speaker 01

  Chrissy Teigen is a huge fan of hers. Her name is Kirsty Patterson, right? So she's, she's doing-

• 20:31Speaker 02

  Scottish, is she?

• 20:32Speaker 01

  She's, I assume she's Scot- I don't actually know, I assume she's Scottish. Timothy Chalamet has expressed, I laughed when I read this, an interest in going to the event. When I read that, I thought he was gonna be in it. They're like, but all Timothy has to express is an interest for her to make the paper. He's like, I might go. I was like, Timothy Chalamet might go. Huge news. And then, and she, and Kirsty's been wheeled in as like the special guest, she's doing a big Q and A with them and all the meet and greets from all the jobs.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  For her.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  I know. And then the other one, Felicia Dawkins, Felicia Dawkins, she played the character of the unknown. Do you remember that? The kind of, no one knows, there was no unknown character in Willy Wonka. She was basically dressed in a black overcoat. She kinda looked like a banshee, it was like a witchy vibe. And she would just pop her head out from behind a mirror. It was quite underwhelming really, to be honest with you. But it was just one of the many disasters of the Willy Wonka experience. She now is after making a fortune on Cameo. She's already sent the cash. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 21:26Speaker 02

  The other one should be on Cameo, they would make so much money.

• 21:30Speaker 01

  I'm assuming she is, but I guess the article thought that it was a bigger win that she was taking meetings in LA.

• 21:36Speaker 02

  Well, I mean, I can't, I'll just say I'm, I'm a little bit jealous.

• 21:40Speaker 01

  Well, I haven't asked my American agent in about a year. He's probably signed her.

• 21:45Speaker 02

  It's no time for you anymore.

• 21:46Speaker 01

  No time for me.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Busy making cash from Willy Wonka.

• 21:49Speaker 01

  Stand up out, Willy Wonka in. Yeah, anyway, congratulations to the ladies. We love to see it. We love to see it. And if anyone is in LA, please go, please go to this event and let us know how it goes. And sorry, if it ever goes to Dublin or London, please call me. I would love to take part.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  I will take a job and then maybe you might be moved to the American one. Do a job here, you might get access to the American one.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  I'd love to be the unknown. Like, broke her career. And do you know what as well, when those women turned up the day that they were like, they were probably, it was probably the lowest point in their lives.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  No, what do you think?

• 22:30Speaker 01

  Well, maybe not taking into consideration like family deaths and stuff, but I mean, you only turn up on a job. I've turned up on jobs and I'm like, oh, for fuck's sake.

• 22:39Speaker 02

  Can you imagine how many jobs I've turned up on and I'm like, fucking hell.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like, oh no.

• 22:44Speaker 02

  Dress up as this today for fuck's sake. Fine, I'll do it.

• 22:48Speaker 01

  We thought you'd actually act out the beaver, Joanne. Excuse me?

• 22:53Speaker 01

  That kind of stuff. Yeah, could you kind of perform as a beaver? It wasn't a beaver, sorry, it was a chipmunk. It was a chipmunk. We thought you'd actually physically, I thought it was just a voiceover. No, no, no, no. We'd like you to physically move like a chipmunk.

• 23:04Speaker 02

  The hell are you talking about?

• 23:09Speaker 01

  The arts, folk. I'm talking about the arts, baby. This is what it is.

• 23:13Speaker 02

  Oh, stop. I'm so glad there was no camera phones around when we were younger, the stuff that we had to do.

• 23:18Speaker 01

  There's great highs and then there's great lows.

• 23:22Speaker 02

  Did you ever go to acting school where you had to just like be a fruit?

• 23:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 23:28Speaker 02

  I've been an orange, I've been a banana. Like, yeah, that was in the giddy skill of acting as well. So I thought that I had hit the jackpot, that I was able to pay to go to this acting school. And then it turned out that I was spending much of the day becoming a fruit.

• 23:41Speaker 01

  That is hilarious.

• 23:42Speaker 02

  I'm not sure how it helped my acting career. I did, I went to Rad at one summer and I was doing like battle. So we had to do this, like it was a Shakespeare. It's a Shakespearean-based acting course and I had to do like battle. We had to pretend to battle each other with wooden swords and stuff.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course. You've got to have the skills.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  I'm very skilled in Shakespearean battle. Thank you very much.

• 24:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, you're like, you're going to be cast as a battling blueberry. But like, it all makes sense now. Everything I've done has come to this moment.

• 24:10Speaker 02

  They did Gladiator 2. If they ever did Braveheart 2, I'm there. I know how to use a wooden sword.

• 24:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, so you can do Braveheart 2 or Gladiator 3 and I will do Willy Wonka 2 wherever it's taking place. And I guarantee it'll be more beneficial doing the Willy Wonka show.

• 24:26Speaker 01

  Telling you. Look, ask Paul Meskell. This woman, Felicia Dawkins, is probably getting more meetings than Paul is now. And he did Gladiator 2.

• 24:36Speaker 02

  I don't. I haven't seen Gladiator 2, but I have been told not to see it.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  Well, it's only that it went up against...

• 24:44Speaker 02

  Gladiator 1.

• 24:45Speaker 01

  No, no, no, no, no. It went up against Wicked.

• 24:49Speaker 02

  Well, that's not really why. It was not nearly as good as Gladiator. I heard, I haven't seen it, but anyone who I know who has watched it did not enjoy.

• 24:58Speaker 01

  Well, look, Paul Meskell, we unconditionally support the Irish. So we're like, it's a five star for me.

• 25:06Speaker 02

  Listen, I don't think Paul Meskell's having any problems since Gladiator 2. He's doing pretty well for himself.

• 25:11Speaker 01

  Is he? I haven't heard much from him now, to be honest.

• 25:13Speaker 02

  Have you noticed?

• 25:22Speaker 03

  Manchester, 8th of June. Amsterdam, 15th of June.

• 25:26Speaker 01

  I'm going to Amsterdam in the summer on my backpacking comedy trip. Maybe I'll be there at the same time. Maybe he'll come to my show. Huh?

• 25:34Speaker 01

  I meant to say this to you. So do you remember before I was saying that I bumped into Leo Varacca, one of our old spinning tea shocks?

• 25:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:42Speaker 01

  And he had no memory of me. He showed no awareness of my existence. And I was kind of a bit shocked and offended because in my head, we were besto mates in the DMs.

• 25:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:55Speaker 01

  And I was like, what happened? What happened? Anyway, Leo messaged me again.

• 26:01Speaker 02

  On Instagram?

• 26:02Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 26:03Speaker 02

  Joanna, how are you batting off all these famous people? You won't have time for plebs like us.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  I mean, we're Irish famas, you know yourself. There's no such thing, really. Everyone's just, we're just all plebs, really. Everyone's, it's just, everyone's a pleb. Anyway, Leo reached out. He was in, Leo is in the DMs and he was like, Joanne, I wasn't actually manning my own Instagram account. I apologize. Which of course, he was like, it was a woman. So of course that made sense that she had somehow tracked the podcast and the story and everything. Leo's oblivious to this completely. Meanwhile, I think I'm being groomed by the T-Shock. I'm absolutely thrilled with myself. It wasn't him at all.

• 26:43Speaker 02

  Oh, so he didn't follow me? He's not actually following me out of want to following me? Couldn't give a fuck?

• 26:48Speaker 01

  Well, he is, he is now by default, because she's, because he's not the spin in T-Shock anymore. So she's now gone. So he's now manning his own. He's now like just back to plebl, plebland. So he's, he's manning his own. But he's like, look, it wasn't me manning my Instagram. Which, you know, in fairness, kind of makes sense that the T-Shock wasn't actually DMing me personally, wishing me the best of luck with the Prosecco Express. I'd, I mean, when you put, when you-

• 27:10Speaker 02

  You run up to him.

• 27:12Speaker 01

  When you put your real life lens on, maybe I wasn't a priority for him at the time. And he wasn't actually going to come into the Vicar Street and stand in the wings and wave me on like I suggested he did. No, of course, it was a woman called Neve.

• 27:23Speaker 02

  Joanne, can you imagine how weird he felt with you, probably a few drinks in, running up to him, insisting that you were friends?

• 27:31Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, of course.

• 27:33Speaker 02

  Well, it's, it's always nice to be brought back down to earth, isn't it? Like, no one gives a fuck about us. No, they don't give a shit.

• 27:39Speaker 01

  Oh, not only they don't give a fuck, but there was, at one point I was like, he's going to call security or something, really. I mean, he looked like he felt unsafe.

• 27:46Speaker 02

  Well, I'm actually glad that you have cleared that up. That's a good thing to have cleared up.

• 27:50Speaker 01

  It's still disappointing not to be known by the T-Shock, but I guess it makes sense. And he's, he's certainly knows like I am now.

• 27:57Speaker 02

  Well, you know, and he's frightened.

• 28:00Speaker 01

  Him and his security team. Very aware.

• 28:03Speaker 02

  Oh crap, here she is again. But he's-

• 28:09Speaker 01

  Blocking me off. I'm like, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 28:11Speaker 02

  I think, I think that we like a politician sometimes, like when we bumped into Mihal Martin, we found a very, another T-Shock of Ireland and we bumped into him.

• 28:20Speaker 01

  Spin, spin and T-Shock, yeah.

• 28:23Speaker 02

  And I think that we kind of get, like, there's certain pictures of people that I'll get from my mom to be like, "Look, Mum, look at that."

• 28:29Speaker 01

  Do you remember the night we met, were you there with the night we met Mihal Martin or was I on my own? Was that, was I on my own?

• 28:33Speaker 02

  No, I was with you.

• 28:34Speaker 01

  Yeah, we'd done the late, late. And do you know what happened that night as well?

• 28:37Speaker 02

  I know, I know.

• 28:38Speaker 01

  This is a testament to, so a lot of these male politicians have female, I don't know what they are. I think they're female social media managers.

• 28:46Speaker 02

  P O R, I'm P O R people.

• 28:47Speaker 01

  Or social media managers, right? So, so Mihal Martin's buzzing past the door at the green with the late, late. He's on the way out and then suddenly, I was like, I didn't say anything and then suddenly he kind of did a 180 and he came back in. He's like, "Hi, girls." And we did a photo with me and folk, but I heard his, whether she's his publicist or social media, she went, "Mihal, Mihal, go and get a photo with the girls."

• 29:04Speaker 02

  Couldn't give a shit, I wanted the picture.

• 29:06Speaker 01

  No, of course not. But what the gas thing is, these men are completely clueless to our existence, but their female employees or I don't know what they are, are aware and they're like going, so they're being, these men are being led and guided by these women. So it's just good to know, it's good to know. Keep us humble.

• 29:23Speaker 02

  It's good to know, but it kind of makes me feel bad about myself a little bit too. But anyway.

• 29:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 29:28Speaker 02

  Eihua, eihua.

• 29:30Speaker 01

  Indeed, indeed. What a, what a powerful end to that message. Eihua is good night in Irish, Jo, just in case you thought she was saying something that related in any way to our conversation. She absolutely was not. Eihua, that's what I have to say about that, huh? Stick that in your pipe and smoke it.

• 29:46Speaker 02

  Did you hear about your one last week? Eihua.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  Eihua.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  See you the day of Joanne on Saturday. Eihua.

• 30:01Speaker 01

  You gotta keep the language alive, Jo. We're Grailgors. We're just...

• 30:04Speaker 02

  Absolutely.

• 30:05Speaker 01

  We're resuscitating the language one fuck-up at a time. Did you see that little Ukrainian kid?

• 30:09Speaker 02

  I know. He was... There's a child, I watched it, you told me about it yesterday, there's a child who came over from Ukraine because of the war and he came to live here and now he is fluent in Irish. Fluent, Jo. Joanne, we should be ashamed of ourselves.

• 30:25Speaker 01

  It is embarrassing, yeah, it's embarrassing. He's really making the effort. Like, I wouldn't, like, if I moved, where would I maybe learn the language of?

• 30:33Speaker 02

  You wouldn't be Irish, Joanne. You could live in France for 100 years and you wouldn't even say more than Bon Jour.

• 30:39Speaker 01

  I'd be in, I could move to Portugal, I'd love to move to Portugal and I would literally be sitting there like, "Ihoa", like, I would never even learn the language. And this child is now fluent in Irish. It's amazing.

• 30:49Speaker 02

  It's such a nice thing to see.

• 30:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. Jo, you should make an effort, Jo.

• 30:55Speaker 03

  Is it on Duolingo? I can start, I can...

• 30:57Speaker 02

  If you don't come on to this next pod and introduce yourself as Dear Gwich, that will be it. Isn't that right, Joanne?

• 31:04Speaker 01

  Ihoa.

• 31:05Speaker 02

  Ihoa!

• 31:07Speaker 01

  Fucking yes, please.

• 31:13Speaker 01

  Did you get your hair done or something? Ihoa!

• 31:17Speaker 01

  No idea what we're talking about.

• 31:19Speaker 02

  I love those wings down the road. Iha wa!

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Just before we move on, you know my father did that. Preston man, Englishman, Lancashire man.

• 31:27Speaker 02

  He learnt Irish.

• 31:28Speaker 01

  God rest his northern soul. He learnt Irish when he, because do you know what? He moved to Ireland to marry my mother and when he had two Irish kids, he knew that the primary school system in Ireland is very, like, Irish-based and he worries that he wouldn't be able to help us with our homework and all this stuff. And, because you have to, you have to be able to do, you have to do Irish in the Leaving and the Junior unless you have, like, an exemption. And so he learnt Irish. Isn't that so sweet?

• 31:51Speaker 02

  That's really nice. That's like, I'm like, I'm beginning to learn in bloody algebra again because once I get past multiplication, I don't know anything else.

• 31:59Speaker 01

  So, we've made, we've been very clear in the education system. Fuck the fractions. Please tell a young girl what her period is. We've been very clear. That's where the confusion is. We've spent three weeks now trying to figure out what the fuck that is.

• 32:12Speaker 02

  I know now. And now I've got my period, I'm like, oh hello, you. Ihoa, I know what you are.

• 32:23Speaker 02

  In Japan, there's a service that can help you disappear overnight.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  Mmm.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Thousands. Now, also, by the way, Japan, I was watching this whole thing on Japan. Yesterday, it came up on my Instagram. They only have like, only 4% of the country is overweight. 4%.

• 32:40Speaker 01

  Whoa.

• 32:41Speaker 02

  That is like, they have all these, like, in the schools, they, the kids have to eat fresh food made on the day. And they have a head nutritionist of each school, teaching people about food. It's, in Japan have it like sorted.

• 32:53Speaker 01

  They seem to have it sorted. They seem to have it sorted. And Scandinavian countries seem to have it quite sorted.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. So thousands of people choose to disappear, leaving behind jobs, debts and relationships. Known as jihatsu, which translates to evaporated people. They erase their past with the help of night moving companies. I just thought that was, Kevin Carey could get himself a new job.

• 33:15Speaker 01

  Kevin Carey from Caroline?

• 33:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, he should go, he should go to Japan and start moving people at night who want to disappear.

• 33:22Speaker 01

  I think that's called trafficking, but sure.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  That's what they have, night moving companies. So people disappear in the middle of night and they take all that crap.

• 33:30Speaker 01

  I wonder, do people, so people like that, say, say you have an outstanding mortgage and you're living your life in Japan. And you go, do you know what I'm actually gonna do? I've decided I'm gonna disappear. Is it to get life insurance like that guy in the canoe? Or is it to just avoid the debt? Does the debt get written off? Does the debt get passed down?

• 33:46Speaker 02

  Well, the house, the, the house, the, the bank would just take your house back if you're not paying your mortgage. So they don't really care because they're gonna get the, what, they're gonna be owed anyway. But this just seems like people who are having a tough time in life, they're like, they're like, you know what? I want a fresh start. I just wanna start all over again.

• 34:01Speaker 01

  One of the best pieces of advice I was, and listen, I'm, I'm not against it. I love, there's fresh start. And then there's burning your life down, getting into the back of a truck at night and having a new identity.

• 34:10Speaker 02

  Calling the night movers and saying hello.

• 34:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Burning your passport and getting a new one. That's, that's not really, that's not like, you're earning me. It's a bit more than that.

• 34:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 34:22Speaker 01

  But I remember someone saying to me once before, and I was like, it's so true, because do you know that sometimes you can fantasise about going into the countryside on your own and living off the land and making jams? But he said to me, he's like, no matter where you are, that's where, no matter where you go, that's where you are. So just because you physically move space, you still have all your own thoughts and anxieties and all that stuff. And it really stuck with me because it's true.

• 34:48Speaker 02

  But I suppose it's just for people who literally just want to be a new version of themselves, like they might have fucked up their lives loads, so they just want to go. Like the guy you were talking about, John Darwin, he faked his death on the canoe. That was in 2002. And then he wanted the life insurance, his wife Anne got it. But they had kids and everything. And then eventually, like, he was exposed and it's fraudulent.

• 35:11Speaker 01

  The kids didn't speak to her. I don't know if they still do. They might, I think they maybe started speaking to her again. Because she told them, they had to mourn, they, they.

• 35:18Speaker 02

  I know.

• 35:19Speaker 01

  Their mother stood and looked in their face and was like, your dad's dead. And they had a funeral and all that, and he was living in a wardrobe. Do you remember? He was in the wardrobe.

• 35:36Speaker 02

  Do you know what I'm gonna do right now? I'm gonna, I'm gonna download Duolingo. So eho off to you.

• 35:41Speaker 01

  Shut up. Eho off to you.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna learn French.

• 35:50Speaker 02

  There was a new fella, it's a copycat kayaker, Ryan Bogworth. I mean, he was probably.

• 35:56Speaker 01

  I'd start a new life with my name was Bogworth. Terrible name, Jesus Christ. Yeah, I'd collapse my canoe.

• 36:05Speaker 02

  I can't continue this life as Bogworth.

• 36:08Speaker 01

  Rise, the, rise from the ashes, like as a burn or McNally or something stern.

• 36:13Speaker 02

  What's your man's name? Bruce Bogtrotter. I always hated that name as well, from Matilda. Awful name, poor Bruce. And so this fella, basically, he's a married father of three, and he faked his own death and fled the country. Then they knew, authorities knew that he had been plotting his disappearance because. He took out a three hundred and seventy five thousand insurance, three hundred and seventy five thousand dollar insurance policy and then bought airline gift cards. He was really quite crap about it. And then

• 36:41Speaker 01

  I hear.

• 36:42Speaker 02

  I know, it was ridiculous. And like, he was doing stuff on his computer where it's like, oh, how can you disappear? How, like, you know that shit? Well, it's like, how to decompose a dead body? Like, it's like, now we know you murdered them.

• 36:53Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 36:53Speaker 02

  We know that you did that now. So this fella kind of did. But he's fifty, there was a fifty four day search for his body. And then eventually they found him and he is going on trial. But he has three kids.

• 37:03Speaker 01

  Sorry, imagine trying to start a new life and then buying, that's like, that's like me starting a new life and like checking into a hotel in Madeira or something. Like, you're, we can visibly see the, we can track you.

• 37:15Speaker 02

  I'd last about a day before I started posting stuff on Instagram, being like, hey, best life.

• 37:22Speaker 01

  New life, new me.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Collaboring with the traffickers.

• 37:27Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 37:27Speaker 01

  Traffic for free in exchange for three, three story posts in a grid.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Do you know your, your man from, the little boy from Charlie and the Chocolate Factory? Because I know that you now love Willy Wonka. He basically decided he didn't want to act anymore after that movie. And he kind of disappeared. He went off to, to learn how to be a dentist. And now he's living life as a dentist.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's not for everyone. But the training that goes into it, like, look at you learning how to be a fruit and then to not use it. Apparently they kind of break you down in drama school. And sometimes they forget to build you back up. A lot of people said they find it really hard.

• 37:55Speaker 02

  Do you want to see me being orange?

• 37:57Speaker 01

  Yeah. For the listeners who can't see, she's doing opposite of nothing. She's just

• 38:02Speaker 02

  Well, what else do oranges do? What else do they do?

• 38:04Speaker 01

  She's sitting there with her eyes closed.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  And you can't smell me. I'm, I'm emitting scent of orange, scent of orange.

• 38:10Speaker 01

  Do it again, do it again. I'm not gonna lie, that's giving banana.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  Oh, fuck it, I went into banana. I meant to do orange.

• 38:18Speaker 01

  Speaking of looking for things, can I please bring up, up my favourite topic?

• 38:23Speaker 02

  Yeah. What have you lost?

• 38:24Speaker 01

  I didn't lose it, but it is lost. Malaysian Airlines, they've opened it up again.

• 38:31Speaker 02

  I, I'm sorry.

• 38:32Speaker 01

  They're going back in. Britain is going looking for it now, some company. And if they find it, they're getting 70 million pounds. They're going back in.

• 38:39Speaker 02

  We should start bloody looking for it.

• 38:40Speaker 01

  I know. Get your snorkel out, baby. Let's go. It's at the Indian Ocean with your verruca socks. We'll be in the sea for a while.

• 38:47Speaker 02

  This stuff scares the shit out of me. I can't. I flew back here on Sunday and I was having such a meltdown on the flight. The air hostess had to come over and she's like, don't worry, it's just turbid. And I was like, and then when I hear stuff like this, it reminds me, I'm in a tin can in the air.

• 39:02Speaker 01

  I can tell you now, if they find that plane, I'll have to take a week off. I will be bet into that story. So they're finally, if they, they're saying this is the last time they'll look for it. This is the, they say that.

• 39:13Speaker 02

  70 million though, but that's going to cost them a fortune to try and look for it. And I don't think

• 39:17Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah.

• 39:18Speaker 02

  It'll all have been swept away at the bottom. Unless it's like the Titanic.

• 39:21Speaker 01

  Vogue, please, the black box. We're looking for the black box. And when they find the black

• 39:27Speaker 02

  Do you not think that that's going to be disintegrated now at this stage?

• 39:31Speaker 01

  Vogue, you're going to feel very silly when they find the black box because the black box is made of stuff that is indestructible. Now, my opinion is, would you not make the whole plane of the same ship? But anyway, apparently it won't fly if it's, but the black box is indestructible. That's the point of the black box. So get the black box.

• 39:46Speaker 02

  I hope they find it.

• 39:48Speaker 01

  It records everything that was discussed because the big debate with Malaysian Airlines is, was it a mass murder? Did he do it on purpose? Or was it a mistake, an accident? I believe it to be a mass murder.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  Oh, she's coming.

• 40:01Speaker 01

  A hundred percent.

• 40:02Speaker 02

  Oh, I believe it to be a mass murder as well. That's definitely what happened.

• 40:06Speaker 01

  But we don't know. And his family are like, he never would have done it. And they're going to find that black box. And it's going to be, it's going to be, it's basically one of the biggest, biggest mystery in aviation history, but also one of the biggest mysteries in all history outside of aviation. And if they find that black box, well, well, well, I'll be gone.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Listen, I hope they find the black box, of course. I think it will be really good for the families and really good for us who have been dying to find it. Yeah. And really good for my anxieties right now. It won't be good for my anxieties around flying, but it will be good. But I don't, I just, I don't.

• 40:36Speaker 01

  Think of the Netflix series. Think of the Netflix series. Think of the Netflix series.

• 40:39Speaker 02

  There's going to be a Netflix series. Regardless of whether they find the black box or not.

• 40:42Speaker 01

  No, but they need, imagine if they find it and then we'll have the answers. There's no answers now. It's just this huge big question mark in the Indian Ocean.

• 40:48Speaker 02

  Do you think that they're gonna find it realistically?

• 40:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm hoping, I'm gonna, I'm, I'm hoping. I'm sending them all my love.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  You know what you should do? Say a prayer to Saint Anthony.

• 40:56Speaker 01

  Say a prayer to Saint Anthony.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:58Speaker 01

  Yeah. Patron saint a last shit. Yeah, yeah.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Although he never found my ring for me three years ago, so.

• 41:04Speaker 01

  Well, maybe he's.

• 41:05Speaker 02

  He's not doing a good job either.

• 41:07Speaker 01

  Well, maybe he's gonna, maybe because he's putting all his energy into trying to find a plane in the Indian Ocean Vogue, okay? He's obviously flat out.

• 41:13Speaker 02

  Well, he's not doing a great job of that either. I'm just saying, okay. Thank you. Ehehwa.

• 41:19Speaker 01

  Well, no, because that's the correct, that's the correct use of it, which we don't.

• 41:23Speaker 02

  Well, it's not night time, so it's not.

• 41:25Speaker 01

  Well, they don't know, the listener doesn't know that.

• 41:28Speaker 01

  Now you look fluent, which was, it was, it was not what we wanted. You look fluent now.

• 41:32Speaker 02

  I don't think we once used it in the correct way.

• 41:38Speaker 01

  What, Jo, what are you, Jo, what are you Googling there? You look like you're reading something.

• 41:42Speaker 03

  I've done my first Duolingo in Irish. I've done it. I muted my microphone. I've just done it.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Sorry, we're in the middle of working.

• 41:49Speaker 01

  We're in the middle of a record, Jo.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  Te agus shukra.

• 41:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:55Speaker 03

  Della hall.

• 41:56Speaker 01

  Very good, actually, yeah.

• 41:57Speaker 02

  Della hall, that's not, that's not too bad.

• 41:59Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's actually not bad.

• 42:00Speaker 02

  Look at me, Joanne, sign up. Parle français.

• 42:04Speaker 01

  Oh, we're all signing up to learn a language, are we?

• 42:05Speaker 02

  Ah, maybe we should concentrate on Irish, actually. How dare I go for French first? Let's go back to Irish. Yeah, let's have a language competition and see who's fluent in something first.

• 42:14Speaker 01

  People don't see us as Irish, even in Ireland. I think it'd be very controversial.

• 42:18Speaker 02

  And did you ever know this language? Um, I've a guy, well, I've gone to the goo, go, go to the goo, they've a go, she've a go. Do you remember that back slang? Did you ever know that?

• 42:25Speaker 01

  No.

• 42:26Speaker 02

  How did you not know that from Dorky? You never knew back slang.

• 42:30Speaker 01

  No.

• 42:31Speaker 02

  Ah, here, that is an ehehwa. Now, see you later.

• 42:34Speaker 01

  What? What's back slang?

• 42:36Speaker 02

  Me and Amber used to literally sit in front of my parents and, and call them arseholes in this language and they would never know what we were saying.

• 42:43Speaker 01

  Little mad bastard.

• 42:44Speaker 02

  Oh, we were cra- absolutely berserk, we were.

• 42:49Speaker 01

  Ehehwa.

• 42:53Speaker 02

  Look at that.

• 42:57Speaker 01

  Anything to plug folk? I would like to plug my new standard tour, Penophile, which is around Ireland and the UK and now the continent. I've got Antwerp, Oslo, Berlin, Amsterdam, we're going to add another one, Lisbon, Barcelona, Bergen, Stockholm, Copenhagen, then the UK, Ireland. Please join, joamccnally.com for all tickets, please.

• 43:22Speaker 02

  I will join and I am actually on a little mini book tour. I'm only doing two dates. I'm doing one in 26th of May in Vickers Street and the 27th of May in Union Chapel. Very fun.

• 43:34Speaker 01

  Nice.

• 43:35Speaker 02

  Did you leave me anything in Vickers Street?

• 43:37Speaker 01

  No, I took the lights. I did an Erlingis Lounge vibe from what you did, I did that there.