Mum Guilt, P*rn Ban & Labels

How long ago did they bring in the p*rn ban in the UK? A good while ago, no? Apparently, Joanne hadn't noticed. Vogue had, but that's less of a surprise. This week, with Vogue finally back from Australia, it's time to dive in on the Wicked press tour and for Vogue to hard launch a new project! If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com https://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ Joanne's comedy gigs: www.joannemcnally.com https://www.joannemcnally.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:00Speaker 00

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• 0:32Speaker 01

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:45Speaker 02

  Welcome to my therapist ghosted me. It's the usual people. Nothing's changed.

• 0:53Speaker 03

  I'm starting YouTube at the grand old age of 40. And yes, I do have an Osmo that I take around with me and I started filming today. So I'm releasing my first YouTube on Sunday. And Joanne, whenever I see you in real life, I'm just gonna use you for your face and I'm gonna make you perform.

• 1:11Speaker 02

  Well, I think this is a fantastic idea. As someone who is, obviously I already know this information. Or should I act aghast? Oh, this is.

• 1:19Speaker 03

  Get surprised, how excited are you?

• 1:20Speaker 02

  Bebe and friends, this is new information.

• 1:26Speaker 02

  The flumin- no, what's it called on the plane? The fluenza, what's it called? The phalange. The phalange. So, but as I said to Vogue in real time, and I will say it again, I think this is such a good idea. I think, like, do you know, and I'm a big YouTube person. So I, I'd say I watch, and we all know how it's all going. TV's dying, YouTube is on the rise. And I think genuinely, I think the key now is, and I think most people are going that way who work in that area. They're now treating YouTube like it is TV. Like, we spoke about the ginge who won.

• 1:59Speaker 03

  Angry ginge?

• 2:00Speaker 02

  Angry ginge. And he is a YouTube person and he has, he had one of the biggest votes of anyone in like years and years on. Like, oh, YouTube is where it's at.

• 2:10Speaker 03

  Well, this will blow your mind. He's actually a Twitch, is a Twitch Joe?

• 2:14Speaker 04

  Yeah, Twitch where people do like video game streaming and stuff like that.

• 2:18Speaker 02

  Oh, got it. Yeah.

• 2:20Speaker 03

  It's a new world, Joanne. That's like, that's out of our grasp. Don't bother.

• 2:23Speaker 02

  In our-

• 2:24Speaker 03

  Although I would like to see you twitching, watching your weird shows and stuff that you watch. I think that you should start a Twitch and I'll do the YouTube.

• 2:32Speaker 02

  Well, Vogue, if you're going on YouTube, you're gonna be one of my weird shows now.

• 2:36Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 2:37Speaker 02

  I'll fall asleep listening to you.

• 2:40Speaker 04

  What's your handle? Tell people where to find you.

• 2:42Speaker 03

  Oh, oh, you'll like my handle.

• 2:44Speaker 02

  Battersea Park. Where will we find her?

• 2:46Speaker 03

  Yeah, no.

• 2:47Speaker 02

  Purple Dragon.

• 2:48Speaker 03

  I'll tell you what my handle is. My handle is, it's going to be called, What Does She Even Do?

• 2:54Speaker 02

  Oh, very good. Very good.

• 2:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:57Speaker 02

  Sorry. That's really funny, but can I make a marketing suggestion as an ex-publicist?

• 3:02Speaker 03

  Yeah, because I haven't launched it yet, so I can always change the name, but I just thought it would, it made sense because I'm doing stuff.

• 3:06Speaker 02

  But that is a joke and it's very funny and I think you probably might call it that, but I would say as an ex-publicist, someone with the marketing background and someone who's worked in hotels.

• 3:16Speaker 03

  Did you?

• 3:17Speaker 02

  You know my history. You know my history at the start.

• 3:19Speaker 04

  Never said that before. We had no idea.

• 3:20Speaker 02

  Well, Jo, it was back in the day.

• 3:22Speaker 03

  Ex-publicist.

• 3:23Speaker 04

  Really?

• 3:24Speaker 03

  Put that on your Insta bio. Honestly, because I don't remember that sometimes.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  All the fame and the fortune.

• 3:30Speaker 04

  No, no one knows that.

• 3:31Speaker 02

  I was with my bare hands cleaning feces off hotel toilets for weddings.

• 3:36Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 3:37Speaker 02

  Anyway, Vogue, I would say for, I would say for brand awareness, I would use your own name if you could.

• 3:43Speaker 03

  I just think it's so boring and a bit tacky.

• 3:46Speaker 02

  But it's not your fault your name is tacky. That's Sandra's fault. It's all you have now.

• 3:50Speaker 03

  I know, but I just kind of like, it was fine when it was a magazine.

• 3:54Speaker 02

  Vogue and Spencer. Spencer and Vogue.

• 3:55Speaker 03

  Now I've gone into toilets and stuff. No, I'm not doing, no, I'm, Spenny and I were considering doing one together. I'm doing it alone.

• 4:00Speaker 02

  Oh, you're doing it on your own? Oh, sorry. Okay, okay, okay, okay.

• 4:03Speaker 03

  So now we're in direct competition, Spenny and I together. And so he's like, "Oh, I don't think, I don't think you know what's involved in this." I'm like, "You wait, babe. You wait." Now you've spurred me on to beat your subscribers.

• 4:15Speaker 02

  I, look, I think you're gonna be a huge, I think this is gonna work really well for you. I think it's gonna be a big success, as is most things that you do, but I would, as your friend, can't- And an ex-publicist, I would suggest you put your, you include your name. Oh, do you think there will be an issue because of the magazine?

• 4:31Speaker 03

  No, there, I don't think that, but I just think that it's a bit boring just to say, oh, Vogue Williams. Like, it will be, Vogue Williams will be there somewhere, but I think it has to have a title and the title, the reason I say.

• 4:42Speaker 02

  I know what you mean. Yeah, fine. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 4:44Speaker 03

  I saw somebody comment that on some, I saw some video of myself today and someone commented, what does, what does she do? And I nearly wrote back and, and wrote the list. And then I was like, do you know what? Why would I bother?

• 4:55Speaker 02

  Send them the list.

• 4:56Speaker 03

  Why, why would I bother? I don't need to tell you what I do. And no, I don't just sell washing tablets.

• 5:02Speaker 02

  Also, can I just say, there are people out there, actors and shit, who are just selling washing tablets and it is a worthwhile and worthy job. Are you sure they weren't taking the piss out of you? Cause I feel like it's kind of a gag now at you.

• 5:14Speaker 03

  Oh, no, no, no, no, no, no. People, people really do believe that I, I don't do anything. And also what I'm seeing a lot of, um, since I left the jungle is how I have basically, I'm the worst mother of all time. Cause I left my children to go and do a TV show. Do you know who doesn't get that?

• 5:31Speaker 02

  Boring.

• 5:32Speaker 03

  Men, they don't get it.

• 5:34Speaker 02

  So boring.

• 5:35Speaker 03

  Men can go and do whatever they want, but if a woman wants to go and do something, or if a woman wants to work, just don't even dream about doing it without getting some level of abuse thrown at you. It's just, and why can't women do both? And if women choose not to do both, that's great. But if women choose to do both, then they should be allowed to do both.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  I was only saying today, I cannot tell if trad wives are moving us forward or setting us back. I look at their lives and I'm like, I'm, I'm, I'm wired to think this is offensive, but there's a part of me who was like, would it nice to be just collecting chicken eggs all day and have a child in each tit, just fucking rocking around making jams?

• 6:12Speaker 03

  There's another one though, that I've seen, is it called a submissive wife? Is that what it's called?

• 6:17Speaker 02

  That's what they are, that's what they are really, isn't it?

• 6:19Speaker 03

  Well, no, I think that there's a separate one now that I saw that it's like,

• 6:23Speaker 02

  I get it.

• 6:23Speaker 03

  I want to be a subwife because I want to be told what to do. Can you imagine, can you imagine me trying to be a, so I'd be like, excuse me? Don't tell me to do that.

• 6:32Speaker 02

  You need a lobotomy, but I do find I. Do reach.

• 6:35Speaker 04

  I have just Googled that and it does return some X rated results.

• 6:39Speaker 02

  Kinky shit. I find I reach sometimes I'll.

• 6:42Speaker 03

  Well, maybe I would like it.

• 6:43Speaker 02

  Decision, decision fatigue, I call it, where I reach a state in the day where I'm like, I can no longer make any other decisions. Cause there's a lot of decisions to be made in your day to day and it's like work wise and stuff and personally, but more so work wise about whatever it is. And I'm like, I've reached decision fatigue. I, I've like leave, come back to me in two days' time. I cannot make any other decisions. And I'm saying, would I mind if a hot naked fireman stepped in at that point to kind of like submiss me? Probably not.

• 7:12Speaker 02

  You've spoken about this before. Do you know when you speak about like mother's guilt and stuff and I, I kind of stare you. Cause I don't really understand it. And I'm like, would you not be delighted to get a break and all that jazz? So I had a friend staying with me recently and her husband FaceTimed her and she took the call in the hallway. And we were just sitting here eating food and drinking wine and having a nice time and catching up. And I, so I could overhear the whole conversation because it's FaceTime and her little girl who is three. When I say screaming, crying, bawling, mama, mama, mama. And my friend was in the hallway trying to bargain with her and she's like, one more sleep and then he'd go to school and then I'll be home.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  And, and then my friend came back into the kitchen crying and I was like, oh my God, even I, I was unsettled. Listening to the conversation. I was like.

• 8:04Speaker 03

  I know.

• 8:05Speaker 02

  It's, it was the first time I've ever actually understood what that means. Cause I, in my single dumbness and childlessness was like, ah, come on, sure. You're fucking dying to get away. I was, I was upset listening. She's like, I'll get you a Kinder Egg. I'll get you a doll. Oh, come on. You're a big girl. Oh, come on. Like it was this. It was, it was upsetting. It was upsetting. I was upset. I was almost like, just fucking go home. Go back to Gatwick and go home. This is too stressful for all of us.

• 8:29Speaker 03

  Well, you see, I, I kind of had pre-planned for the mom guilt because obviously I was away for so long and I've never been away for that long because I couldn't speak to the kids either. So like I have planned, I'm go, I'm taking them away now and I'm with them. And they're like, when are you going away again? I'm like, I'm not, I'm not, I'm just with you. And they're so, I know, I just feel, I felt so guilty. But then because obviously when I left the jungle, you're contracted to stay. So I couldn't just leave. I had to stay till the end.

• 8:56Speaker 02

  I felt bad for you.

• 8:57Speaker 03

  Oh, that was, but like you don't want to be an asshole as well because we're still filming a show. There's like a coming out show that airs on Saturday. So like you get it that they're all still, still working as well. And you can't just go home and be like, no, sorry, I'm done now because you have to kind of stick to your contract. But mom guilt can be the absolute worst. But then you get, on the other hand, work guilt. So when you're not, when you're with the kids the whole time and you're not doing your job and you're just missing things, then you get work guilt. It's, it's just always some form of guilt.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  I was actually, I was talking, so I've told you before, so Pat, my mother, who's like, she's incredibly motherly and she's like, if mothering was an Olympic sport, Pat would certainly be, she'd be on a podium. Would she be first? I don't know, but she'd be certainly numbered. And again, the other day, ringsy and I was like, yo. And she's like, oh my God, you, you haven't been online in hours. I was just so worried. And I was like, does that, like, I'm 42 years of age and my mom is sitting on WhatsApp, checking when I've last been online to make sure I'm okay. Now, I think there's other issues there. I travel a lot for work. I'm on my, you know, I'm on my own a lot, blah, blah, blah.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  So like, you know, if I kind of fall and crack my neck in the shower, my, there's no one to, there's no housemate or child or husband to find my dead body and contact Pat. So like she, I suppose she's kind of doing the minding for me. But I was like, does the worrying ever go? And she's like, it never, ever goes.

• 10:22Speaker 03

  Never. I just like.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  It's a tax of love.

• 10:26Speaker 03

  I know, but I just, I worry about everything and it's, that's when my, that's when my fear of death came, because I used to be kind of normal about death. And I was like, that's all, I just never, it never crossed my mind. And then I had kids and I was like, oh my god.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 10:38Speaker 03

  My mortality is like, if I, I can't leave them, like, that's the worst. Like, I couldn't leave them to be on their own. And like, obviously you can't control that. And that's like, why I'm off getting MRIs and stuff like that.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:49Speaker 03

  Because I've got to make sure I'm all right.

• 10:51Speaker 02

  Oh my god, two things to say about that. I mean, we, we love chatting about death. I spoke to Pat about death recently and she was like, um, I just-

• 10:58Speaker 03

  Do that to old people, Jesus Christ, do that.

• 11:00Speaker 02

  She's not old, she's my next of kin.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  They're old. I don't talk to any, I don't talk to any of my parents about death.

• 11:07Speaker 02

  Jesus Christ. And frankly, for the record, my brother is her next of kin, which is slightly insulting, but whatever. But she said, the saddest part about my death is I wouldn't know what you're up to. And I was like, oh my god, her only concern about her own mortality is that she wouldn't know what me and my brother are up to.

• 11:24Speaker 03

  Oh god.

• 11:24Speaker 02

  I know.

• 11:25Speaker 03

  She'll be flying around.

• 11:26Speaker 02

  I was like, Pat, that's, that's going in the eulogy. Sorry now, I'm already writing it. I'm just preparing myself so I'm not, I don't have a mental breakdown.

• 11:39Speaker 03

  Would you like to see the gift I got you from Australia?

• 11:41Speaker 02

  It's not a Tim Tam, is it Vogue? Come on.

• 11:43Speaker 03

  I didn't get you a Tim Tam.

• 11:44Speaker 02

  Oh, Grant.

• 11:44Speaker 03

  I didn't even eat a Tim Tam.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  I really think that, I know friends from Australia, it's just a penguin bar. Come on, calm down.

• 11:48Speaker 03

  It says wine time.

• 11:51Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 11:55Speaker 02

  Like you, we're four, we're in our 40s now, Vogue. Health and wellness, we're getting smears, we're getting tit tests, we're getting bloods, we're getting it all done. You have to get your smears, get your smears in.

• 12:07Speaker 03

  I've got to get a smear, I haven't had one in a while, get a smear.

• 12:09Speaker 02

  I'll do it for you.

• 12:10Speaker 03

  I don't like that word, can you call it something else?

• 12:12Speaker 02

  A fudging, a retraction.

• 12:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, extraction.

• 12:17Speaker 02

  Like that, in bed the other night, obviously contemplating my own mortality, existential crisis, all the rest. I said, I should probably try and elongate my life rather than what I tend to do, which is shorten it with bad behaviours. I contacted a private hospital in Ireland and I was like, I would like a full.

• 12:33Speaker 03

  Body scan.

• 12:34Speaker 02

  Body scan. Yeah, open the panel, crack in, knock around, see what's going on. How long have I left to live?

• 12:40Speaker 03

  You gotta do it.

• 12:41Speaker 04

  This is really the thing to do at the moment.

• 12:43Speaker 02

  A hundred percent.

• 12:45Speaker 03

  So have you heard of fofo?

• 12:46Speaker 02

  No, is it, is it a relative of a labubu?

• 12:49Speaker 03

  No, it is not a relative of a, of a labubu. Fear of finding out. So people who are thinking of getting health scans and all that kind of stuff, like some people are just like, no, I'm too scared to find out. So I'd rather not do it. But you have to go and do it just to try and figure out if you're all right. That's why I went for that MRI. And I think that like thankfully everything was okay, but, but like even, sorry, I know this sounds terrible and I don't know if anyone's had it done. You know, when you get your boobs checked and they put it in a little, so they put it in this thing and they squeeze it. How are they gonna squeeze mine? There's nothing there. Like nothing will fit in. I can't do.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  But that's the beauty of it. You'll never get breast cancer. A tumor wouldn't fit in there.

• 13:32Speaker 03

  I just don't, I don't know if that's how it works, but I just don't know how to, what's it called when you get your boobs checked? That's bad. What's it called?

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Breast screening.

• 13:41Speaker 04

  Mammogram.

• 13:42Speaker 03

  Mammogram. The man has to tell us about it. Um, well, a mammogram. I'm worried that my tits won't fit in because there is no tits.

• 13:51Speaker 02

  Exactly. They were like, there's no room for infection here.

• 13:53Speaker 03

  We'll just see it. If you ever grow a tit, you know what it is.

• 13:57Speaker 02

  They're like, we'll check your mouth because that could harvest many, many an infection, but your tits are grant. So.

• 14:04Speaker 03

  Totally fine.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  I have the opposite of fofo. I have, I, that's why I hack into like boyfriend's phones and stuff because I want to know everything. But so I contacted this private hospital in Dublin. I was like, send me in, screen, like everything, screen, everything. And obviously I'm not alone in wanting to do this because they were like, we can book you in for March 2026. For the record, time of recording is December 10th, 2025. So I was like, I'll just fucking throw a bit of money at the problem, see what, see what's going on under the hood. Twenty, March twenty twenty six, they were like, we'll get you in for a private screening.

• 14:40Speaker 03

  But also, like, these things aren't cheap. And I think that this should be something that's made more available to more people. Because I actually think it's really important to go and do all that stuff.

• 14:50Speaker 02

  Totally.

• 14:50Speaker 03

  And bloods and everything.

• 14:51Speaker 02

  That's why I'm so surprised that going privately was like, the fucking waiting list was so intense. Could I not just hang around in the airport X-ray machine a little longer and they can tell me if there's anything going on? Like, why am I doing, what are they looking at there? Put your hands up, what up? Is there what's inside? What are we looking at? Tumors, cirrhosis, what's happening? Varrocos, come on, give it to me, the clamp, what's happening? Surely they can see or what are they looking at?

• 15:13Speaker 03

  Varrocos. I don't know, are varrocos?

• 15:16Speaker 02

  Still around.

• 15:16Speaker 03

  They are still around, oh god. I'm wandering around swimming pools with no white socks on because I just thought varrocos were gone, I know.

• 15:23Speaker 02

  You're raw dogging it in pools.

• 15:25Speaker 03

  And I was all over centre parks, raw dogging it the whole time, I'm gonna get myself a pair of the socks.

• 15:29Speaker 02

  No, don't blame it yourself.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  Have you looked at the laws around the kids and all that jaws? Because apparently you're gonna have to pay those kids if they're gonna be on your YouTube channel.

• 15:38Speaker 03

  Do you want?

• 15:38Speaker 02

  Those kids, Gigi's gonna unionize, she's gonna hump you when she's eighteen and be like, you owe me sixty grand. Just be careful.

• 15:45Speaker 03

  Those kids will be pretty happy with what I'm gonna give them, but I'm just not gonna let them know anything about us. They can't, no, no, no, no, no. Yeah, right, they won't accept us, no. I'd say they might get to an age where they don't want that, but like, I kinda don't. Well, I suppose I do, but I feel so proud of them when I see them though, that I'm just like, gosh, you're so cute, I'm gonna post it.

• 16:05Speaker 02

  But there are laws around all that shit now. But also, what I was gonna say is, I'm jumping around, but do you remember your one, that fucking nut job in the States? Who was?

• 16:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, who?

• 16:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  It's not prison?

• 16:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 16:17Speaker 03

  What's her name, what was her name again, Jo? Remember she was, but she was, this mommy influencers, but she was actually, remember she made her kids sleep on the floor for like, seven months?

• 16:25Speaker 02

  She was absolutely like, kind of abusing in plain sight her kids, but like, making a fortune on these YouTube channels.

• 16:33Speaker 03

  Telling people, yes, really frank, telling people how to basically, yeah, discipline your kids.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  Very, very weird. Cause now when you look back, you're like, oh my God, like all the flags are there, you know, very strange behaviour, very controlling behaviour. But people were bet into this YouTube channel, just thought she was a really good mom, but really like severe boundaries. And now she's in prison for child abuse.

• 17:00Speaker 03

  She's, she's gone to prison for quite a long time as well. Did you know Australia has banned under 16s for?

• 17:06Speaker 02

  I heard.

• 17:07Speaker 03

  From, yeah, from all social media. I don't know how they're gonna do it.

• 17:10Speaker 02

  I don't know how they'll do it either.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  No, but they have like mad rules. Like I went to get melatonin and it's only two milligram melatonin. Cause I was like, that will help a jet lag. And I went to get it. You have to be over 55 to get melatonin in Australia. Can't even get melatonin.

• 17:24Speaker 02

  Oh my God, that's because apparently it gives you dementia because it increases tooth decay. Obviously, oh my God, I sound like a rogue and I've no idea if that's actually correct. Sorry, Vogue.

• 17:32Speaker 03

  No, you know what? You actually, no, no, it's not a medical podcast, but that is, that is that they actually do link dementia to tooth decay. Joe, they do. Cause I know somebody who got all their teeth done because they were starting to get signs of dementia. I'm not joking, that is actually true.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  We are, yeah, it's kind of not fake news, but not also correct news, you know, we're like, drink your toilet up, guys, you'll be fine. Very, very rogue and vibes.

• 17:55Speaker 03

  Delve into it a little bit more. But I worry because I forget things all the time though, even now at this age. But I'm like, I think my brain is so full of other stuff that like, that's probably why I forget.

• 18:04Speaker 02

  But you know, the way you were saying that Australia's banned social media for under 16s, which how they will police that, I don't know. I'm obviously like, you know, is it just something as simple as putting your date of birth in? Like they could literally, you know, like, do you have to show proof of age? I don't know. Cause I haven't read it in depth. But do you know the way these, Pornhub brought in an age restriction and apparently the viewings have dropped through the fucking floor. Again, I'm making up stats. I think they've lost like 50%. I don't know. Something massive has happened.

• 18:37Speaker 03

  Yeah, but also with Pornhub, people have to have a VPN.

• 18:45Speaker 02

  Vogue, I'm sorry. Can you not just find porn wherever you are? Like, what's your loyalty to Pornhub? Have you invested in it?

• 18:51Speaker 03

  Joanne, all porn, you have to have a VPN if you want to watch porn. You can't just watch it. You're not allowed to watch it in the UK anymore. There's certain countries that you're still allowed to watch it, but you can't watch it in the UK. We've gone all Dubai on it. You can't watch it. You have to have a VPN.

• 19:06Speaker 02

  That is factually incorrect because I'm watching it right now while you're talking.

• 19:10Speaker 03

  Go, okay.

• 19:11Speaker 02

  I'm dual, I'm dual, I'm dual screening and I'm literally watching one of those lads ride one of those dolls.

• 19:21Speaker 03

  Joanne doesn't watch Pornhub.

• 19:22Speaker 02

  What?

• 19:23Speaker 03

  You don't watch Pornhub? Go try GetPornhub right now.

• 19:26Speaker 02

  I read Vogue.

• 19:28Speaker 03

  What? Go try GetPornhub on your phone right now.

• 19:30Speaker 02

  Do you know the lads who ride the kind of dolls? Do you know the fake women?

• 19:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 19:37Speaker 02

  You know, oh yeah.

• 19:38Speaker 03

  Is that what you watch?

• 19:39Speaker 02

  Oh, Jo, shut up, Jo. Jo's looking at us.

• 19:42Speaker 03

  Now we know Joanne's porn history.

• 19:44Speaker 02

  Do you know what I, do you know what I was, I was listening to something today and do you know what was so interesting? So you know the way I'm a big fan of Esther Perel, who is the sex psychiatrist? She was saying-

• 19:53Speaker 03

  Ruby Wax is friends with her.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Is she?

• 19:56Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 19:57Speaker 02

  Interesting. Okay. Bring her to the fold. Esther was saying that women are turned on by being the turn on. So women are aroused by men being aroused by them specifically? Like if a man comes into you with, and this is Esther's words, with like a huge hard on, he's like, I'm really horny, let's go. She's like, no, because I didn't give you that horn. Whereas if a man-

• 20:19Speaker 03

  Oh, fuck. Sorry. She's got the shit out of me. Sorry.

• 20:23Speaker 02

  Whereas if a man comes in and he's like, oh, I'm not aroused, but now I see you and I'm massively aroused. She's like, let's fucking go. She's like, it's basically, it's the opposite of that kind of maternal, a kind of affection side of women. I thought it was really interesting, really interesting. Cause I was like, yeah, I understand that. I do think that's true. Like, it's hot for a woman if she is the reason a man is aroused. It's not hot to meet a man who's already aroused and ride him. Do you know what I mean?

• 20:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, but I don't know.

• 20:49Speaker 02

  More as I get it.

• 20:52Speaker 03

  Maybe, maybe, maybe because I'm married, I don't really mind where he's gotten the hard on. I just would, once it's there, I'm kind of happy about it. It's still going on. So it's kind of, I'm like, whatever.

• 21:03Speaker 02

  When I saw him scorn you in the Daily Mail today, I said, that poor woman, she's not gonna sleep tonight.

• 21:08Speaker 03

  Oh, my God.

• 21:09Speaker 02

  Oh, my God.

• 21:10Speaker 03

  It would be bad.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  I texted you, she didn't reply. And of course she didn't, because she's being assaulted, staying as bad as he part. And she just wants to relax.

• 21:18Speaker 03

  He had, he had a Lebanese right before I met him. And there's this sauce that sometimes he gets.

• 21:23Speaker 02

  Food or woman?

• 21:25Speaker 03

  This.

• 21:29Speaker 03

  He had it right on.

• 21:30Speaker 02

  Wow, he's really treating himself, isn't he?

• 21:33Speaker 03

  There's a sauce we get, and we only get the sauce and have it together so, because we know we won't be anywhere near each other that night. Well, Svenny didn't consider the sauce when he came to meet me after not seeing me for nearly a month. And the stench of his breath, I could smell him before I saw him. And then I was like, oh, my God. And we were in the taxi on the way home and I like had my head up against the window. I was like, Sven, it's real bad. I don't know what you're gonna do about it. But I can't help you out here if this is gonna be the smell that I have to deal with when we go home. Thankfully, after four times of brushing his teeth, it kind of settled enough. And we did have an enjoyable evening together, but it wasn't as long as you would think it was because I was very jet lagged.

• 22:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, fine. No, I understand that.

• 22:16Speaker 00

  Observe the North American dad. 50s, great polo collection. He enters his vehicle information on Carvana. An offer appears in minutes. Remarkable. He squints, reads it again, smiles and says, dang, that's a good offer. The highest form of approval. No haggling, no hassle. No one called him boss. He's still on the couch. Astonishing. Sell your car today on carvana.com. Pickup fees may apply.

• 22:49Speaker 03

  Oh my god, I've got 41 subscribers of YouTube.

• 22:53Speaker 02

  Can I join Vogue? You're not gonna charge me, are you?

• 22:56Speaker 03

  Oh, yeah, I will, yeah. I'll charge you.

• 22:57Speaker 02

  Give us the swipe of code to watch us sleep, will you?

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Why am I in my phone? What am I looking for?

• 23:03Speaker 03

  Pornhub. You were gonna look for Pornhub.

• 23:05Speaker 02

  That was this?

• 23:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, go on. That's how little... I'm surprised at how little she uses it, that she doesn't know about that yet, because that's been for quite some time, as you know yourself, Jo.

• 23:14Speaker 04

  There's no getting to that, not without the technology. I mean, we were telling everyone to download VPNs to vote for you, but of course, they already had them.

• 23:21Speaker 03

  Oh, I know.

• 23:21Speaker 02

  Okay, so I... Sorry, sorry. I am now on Pornhub.com.

• 23:26Speaker 03

  Okay, go on, try and get into it and watch some porn.

• 23:29Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 23:29Speaker 04

  On mute, please.

• 23:33Speaker 02

  Why? Is it royalty issues? Anyone can moan, Jo. They don't own moaning.

• 23:37Speaker 04

  No, but that's explicit. We can't have that going out.

• 23:40Speaker 02

  Also, I don't want to say... It's quite embarrassing to read what's automatically coming up. It's a bit telling.

• 23:45Speaker 03

  Go on, go on, tell us what's already going up.

• 23:47Speaker 02

  No, I won't. I won't, actually. I'm allowed a private life, Vogue.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  I wouldn't, to be honest with you. There's a lot I share, but I wouldn't share my porn history. I'm sorry. There's just... No.

• 23:56Speaker 02

  My porn history is Vogue's YouTube channel. I'm like, oh, what? What does she even do?

• 24:03Speaker 02

  Okay, I'm in. Warning: you will see nude photos of horny milks. Yep, that's okay. S. Oh, there's a lot of ads here now. Oh, I've been kicked off the page. Hold on.

• 24:14Speaker 03

  Yeah, there you go. Gone! Where is it gone? Gone! It's gone! I know!

• 24:22Speaker 02

  No, no, no. Where is it gone?

• 24:24Speaker 03

  You're not allowed to have it. And I actually think it's a very good thing, because it means under 16s can't get to it. But then again, why do they not know about VPNs? But I suppose they don't have the money to pay for a VPN.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Well, I do... I'm sorry, and I do think... I've read around the sex culture of younger men who have access to porn, and this...

• 24:43Speaker 03

  It's not good.

• 24:43Speaker 02

  It's not. And all this fucking... I talk about it in Penifol, all this like choke and shit and all. It's like, it's... You know, it's not great. It's not great.

• 24:51Speaker 03

  No, it is.

• 24:52Speaker 02

  Bring back pay tree, girls! There's an innocence to it. There's a wholesomeness to that.

• 24:56Speaker 03

  It's not as dangerous, to be fair. Like, I do think young kids watching porn is really bad and it was so easy to accessible. And now it's just not because you do have to have a VPN and hopefully they don't have any money to buy one because they cost money.

• 25:08Speaker 02

  Also, I think.

• 25:08Speaker 03

  I have one, but I had one for the jungle. I don't.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  I also think, I also think young men need to know that when they're watching these finishing scenes in porn, that there was an hour of work put in before that that they're not seeing.

• 25:22Speaker 03

  Sometimes I, I was watching a video, I think it was G K Barry is doing something on porn. And this guy was talking about it and he said that obviously because you can't get the cum shot all day. And so he has to like, he squeezes something into his.

• 25:36Speaker 02

  It's all fake news.

• 25:37Speaker 03

  And then does like a pretend cum shot. So I think it's like lube they put in and then there's like a pretend cum shot.

• 25:42Speaker 02

  Exactly. It's kind of like us growing up on rom coms, if you think about it. And the happily ever after, and then having no understanding of the happily ever after is actually the start of a whole lot of compromise and work that goes into a long-term relationship. It's fake fucking news.

• 25:59Speaker 03

  Yeah, fake news.

• 26:00Speaker 02

  Glad it's banned.

• 26:02Speaker 03

  I'm actually glad to hear that you didn't even know it was banned. What are you up to?

• 26:06Speaker 02

  Sure, I'm dead from the waist down, dead from the waist down.

• 26:10Speaker 02

  Well, are you only going to ask me this now?

• 26:12Speaker 03

  Oh, well, I had a story ready to go up and I was like, I don't know if she'll be annoyed by that, so I won't put it up. But, girls, on the day of record, it is currently December 10th. And true to her word, Joanne McNally was going on a date on December 9th, which she had planned in October. Did it happen?

• 26:32Speaker 02

  Well, Vogue, I'm delighted you finally asked me about this. As you know, I've had a date in the diary for six weeks.

• 26:41Speaker 03

  Oh, please, did it happen?

• 26:43Speaker 02

  I had a very long day yesterday. I was filming for Iceberg Ride. I filmed with Trinny. I was very tired, four or five.

• 26:52Speaker 03

  No.

• 26:53Speaker 02

  Do you ever get this? Stick, stick with me, stick with me. Do you ever get this? So I, I have this and I've learned to trust it as I get older. If I know in my brain, you're not going to do that, Joanne.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  Goodness, that this six weeks ago? Now, I can't do the date. No!

• 27:12Speaker 02

  The day off. I'm a monster. I'm an asshole.

• 27:14Speaker 03

  Oh, that is so...

• 27:18Speaker 02

  In my defence, I had no rapport with this man. I'm working my tits off at the moment. It's Christmas. We're all up to our tits. Everyone's busy. I'm doing 12 hour days. I was like, I am so tired. I'm lethargic. The idea that I'm gonna scrape, I looked, I had enough makeup on me to sink a small country. I'm gonna scrape this makeup off myself at 7 o'clock. Get on a tube, go in and meet a total stranger to make small talk. I was like, do you want? No. So we're back to plan A, which is dial in. I'm sorry, I tried.

• 27:50Speaker 03

  Oh my god, Joanne, I honestly... You were so excited about it yesterday morning. What happened from when I spoke to you to when, like, that poor man has hung around to have a date with you for six weeks? And he dumped him on the day off?

• 28:06Speaker 02

  Had I known Pornhub was no longer available easily to me, I probably would have gone. But I was so busy, I didn't realise that that was no longer in the system. Do you know what? Your man, I'm sure he's lovely, I'm sure he's saying, we had no rapport, we weren't texting, it wasn't like we were flirting, there was nothing. It was literally like going to meet a stranger for dinner.

• 28:24Speaker 03

  I don't care what he was like. Do you know how long we've been waiting for this? How dare you? We've been... Joe, let's go to the...

• 28:32Speaker 04

  In terms of content, it was a payoff. We were waiting for the payoff.

• 28:35Speaker 02

  Do you know when you're like, do you know what if an idea gets in your head and you're like, uh-oh, uh-oh? The idea has planted itself. Uh-oh, uh-oh, this is gonna happen. I'm gonna cancel this date, you know? I'm gonna cancel this date. And then...

• 28:48Speaker 03

  What did he say when he cancelled? Was he like?

• 28:51Speaker 02

  To be fair, like, he was like, whatever. Like, he's like, yeah, we're all busy, blah, blah, blah, no worries, no stress. And he said, but he actually went, but don't do, like, I don't mind rescheduling, but don't do it again.

• 29:04Speaker 03

  Do you know what?

• 29:05Speaker 02

  And I thought...

• 29:06Speaker 03

  With my first, with my first boyfriend, I... Was so embarrassed to go on a date with him because I wasn't much of a dater, that I cancelled the date twice. And he told me when we got together that like if I had cancelled the third time, he wouldn't have gone out with me and I ended up going out with him for six and a half years.

• 29:22Speaker 02

  And that's why he was lying through his tits. And he said that because he was trying to pretend that he had standards, but he didn't. He was just absolutely mad about you. But I also, I like, he's like, if you'd cancelled on me on a 10th time, I wouldn't have come back. Shut up. You're fucking married, are you mad?

• 29:40Speaker 03

  No, it was a different person.

• 29:43Speaker 03

  He was the only one I didn't marry.

• 29:44Speaker 02

  That's it.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  So he shouldn't have bothered really.

• 29:50Speaker 02

  The lot of loser. But he's, he's saying that to you like we all do to kind of, you want to come across like you have some standards for yourself, but I think you could have cancelled on that man nine times. But, but this guy, but I understand it. He's basically saying, all right, Graham, but like, I'm not up for getting fucked around. Fine, but I have no, I have no relationship with this man. Like I've gone on dates with men where previously there's been texting, flirting, rapport, like voice notes, all that shit. I have nothing with this dude at all. I literally was going because I feel very much, and we've spoken about this before, your light's on or your light's off. My light is off. There, I think someone's removed the bulb. Like it's not even that the light's off. It's like someone shut down the power. So I was like, all right, this man seems normal. Fuck it, I'll go meet him.

• 30:33Speaker 02

  And then when it came to the day, and I look, I know it's bad, look, I know it's bad form to cancel on the day. But I will say as well, I've been cancelled with on the day. You fucking get over it. I don't know.

• 30:41Speaker 03

  Oh, so you can't, okay.

• 30:42Speaker 02

  It's all transient online. No one knows each other. It doesn't matter.

• 30:46Speaker 03

  If you weren't that interested in him, then fine, but I was just really excited about this. I know, but you could have got to know him. It could have been nice.

• 30:52Speaker 02

  I know.

• 30:53Speaker 03

  But you know what? It is December. Why don't you reschedule and go out with him in January? Cause no one's around in January.

• 30:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:00Speaker 03

  Yeah, look, does that sound at all like she's gonna go in January?

• 31:03Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Your voice went right up. That's, that's, that's a lie. I could do that.

• 31:07Speaker 02

  I think, I, I think, and like, do you know what I think? I think dating and the single women listening to now, sorry, I think the single women listening to this will know. It's like a job. Like, I put a shift in on Hinge. I'm like, okay, I'll go in and put a shift in, I'll see you in two hours and I'll work from six to eight in a Sunday on Hinge. It's a, you have to put the time into it. And I'm really enjoying where I am with work at the moment and there's loads of good shit happening. And I'm like, I don't fucking care about meeting some randomer in Soho.

• 31:38Speaker 03

  But I know someone who broke up with someone on Friday, on a Friday.

• 31:41Speaker 02

  Oh, on our Friday, not the Friday, just kidding.

• 31:43Speaker 03

  On our Friday, someone who broke up with someone who they were seeing for quite a while on a Friday. And by Sunday, dating someone else, like a day, day two on Sunday. So literally went on to Hinge after the breakup, Saturday, date, Sunday, she's in his house watching TV.

• 32:02Speaker 02

  Well, I think the-

• 32:02Speaker 03

  That's very intimate.

• 32:03Speaker 02

  The key here is in his house.

• 32:08Speaker 02

  So it's a man.

• 32:09Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 32:10Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 32:11Speaker 03

  Great.

• 32:11Speaker 02

  I've said it before and I'll say it again.

• 32:13Speaker 03

  Well, do you date like a man, evidently?

• 32:15Speaker 02

  Uh, do I? No, no. Men date all, like, there's men who have remarried while their wife isn't fully cremated in the oven.

• 32:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 32:28Speaker 02

  Her hair isn't even smoking yet and he's walking down the aisle with the woman. Women are not that way inclined. Women can be on their own for long periods of time. We're much more emotionally resilient in that way. We've better tribal, we've better communities, all that shit. So I was listening to that story with intent until you, and then you were like, it's a man. I said, oh yeah, that makes, that makes complete sense.

• 32:49Speaker 03

  But maybe I date like a man because I do go from relationship to relationship. I did that like one, two, three all consecutively. So maybe I date like a bit like a man.

• 32:58Speaker 02

  No, because you're in, when you're in them, you're incredibly invested, as are men. But like, no, no, no, you just, you're just, you're just, you're just a catch. Men are like, fuck it, let's get my, you know, and you're quite, you're quite suggestible.

• 33:10Speaker 03

  Fuck it, fuck it. Do you know what? Fuck it, let's get married.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  And you're frugal. You're like, I've already got the dress. Let's keep reusing it. I hate to see waste. It makes sense.

• 33:21Speaker 03

  I did have different dresses though, to be fair, so I did not.

• 33:24Speaker 02

  I'm just gonna chill out, lie on my couch over Christmas and wait for a delivery man withhold a coat until he comes in and rides me, something like that. I have, I have plans, but I will not be going on dates again. It was, I just don't care. I don't know. Vogue, if you were any sort of friend, you'd come over and you'd electrocute my labia and get me back on the scene because I, I couldn't give a flying fandango at the moment.

• 33:50Speaker 03

  I feel like you just need to, you need to, maybe it's the summer when you decide to do it again, but then I look at people like Katy Perry and I'm like, look at her. She's gone out with like a prime minister or something. Because she is, she's Katy fucking Perry. So like, she's popping up through floors.

• 34:04Speaker 02

  She's got like twirly lollipops, latex outfits.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  But you're Joanne McNally. Why shouldn't you? Excuse me. You're doing the three arena. People are frightened of you.

• 34:13Speaker 02

  You're doing the three arena. It's time to get lollipops in later.

• 34:15Speaker 03

  No one cares. Yeah. And you're doing a matinee show.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  You wait till I pop up through that floor. You fucking wait. And you're gonna fly, don't you?

• 34:22Speaker 03

  Spinning through the air.

• 34:25Speaker 03

  My God, she might fly like a little witch going around the place on a bream stick.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  Do you know, I watched an interview with Talisa recently. She did the Great Company podcast. I was watching clips. And she was saying, she was like, because they're trying to label her with some sort of sexuality. There's some like demi-sexual where you're like, oh, I just don't ride people I'm not attracted to. And everyone's like, ooh, interesting. Like, that's a sexual orientation. It's like, no, I, I feel like that. It's not a, it's not a sexual orientation. It's like, I won't, I've no, I need to be invested in you in some way emotionally to give a shit.

• 35:04Speaker 03

  I, now, in fairness, I wouldn't, like, I would be very much someone who would need, like, I need to get to know somebody. Maybe it's, I don't know. It's not just because I'm afraid of it. It's just because actually what I like is getting to know somebody and fancying their personality and wanting to be friends with them before.

• 35:21Speaker 02

  Yeah. That's what's hot. Like, look, I can't speak for all women. I can only speak for myself and Vogue, which I'm more than happy to do. Because I know you well enough to speak on your behalf and you're like me, there has to be some sort of emotional connection. I don't, I don't, I don't care about fucking getting ridden by some random, like, I don't care. Like, it's not like I'm, uh, I don't care. I just, I need to have some connection with someone and they make me laugh and I need to fancy them in some way.

• 35:48Speaker 03

  Okay, I think that we just need to shelve it. I think that you're enjoying your life. You're going away for Christmas and stuff like that. You're gonna have a nice time. And maybe we'll revisit in the summer.

• 35:58Speaker 02

  I think dating apps are on the way out. I think apparently it's all coming full circle. Apparently Bumble is falling through the ground. And people are going back to real life meetings in pubs. It's all gonna come 180. Yeah. It's gonna be.

• 36:14Speaker 03

  Get yourself to the Devonshire, Joanne. Go to the Devonshire.

• 36:17Speaker 02

  I'm gonna write the postman. Anyone who comes into contact with the house.

• 36:22Speaker 03

  Okay, well, I'm, you wanna write that, do you wanna write that on your delivery slip? You know, it's like, first floor, please call the bell.

• 36:28Speaker 02

  Code will not be released.

• 36:32Speaker 02

  Come in, not hard.

• 36:47Speaker 02

  Go on, just pop the bra before you go, will you? Just anything, just a bit of mouth, just any bit of touch or feeling.

• 37:01Speaker 03

  Have you heard about Cynthia Reba and Ariana Grande are in a non-demi, curious, semi-binary relationship? And a demi-curious means someone who is a little bit curious about trying something, often sexual or romantic, but not fully committed or sure. Semi-binary means someone who feels partly connected but not fully. So I have no idea what this means.

• 37:24Speaker 02

  Do you know what? Do you know what? And I really like those women, but I have to say, in the words of our great philosopher. Shakespeare.

• 37:34Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Fuck off, you're just mates. Stop trying to add all these weird labels to it. You're just mates. Folk emotion, me and you holding hands and announcing we are in a demi-curious, lazy, sloth plug, semi-non-sexual demi. Like, shut up, you're just mates.

• 37:49Speaker 03

  It's a friendship, it's a friendship.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  You're just mates.

• 37:53Speaker 03

  And not everything has to be labelled, you don't have to label everything, just like.

• 37:57Speaker 02

  If your label takes seven minutes to get out of your mates, forget about it, no one cares.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  Non-demi-curious, semi-binary, I feel like we need something, Joanne, I mean, it sounds kind of interesting. We probably need a label on us.

• 38:08Speaker 02

  I'll give us a label. Mates.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  Pals, call us friends.

• 38:15Speaker 02

  We're mates. But like, have you noticed that, and this is what I, I, because I, that obviously did come across my radar.

• 38:23Speaker 02

  And there's something, I think, I will say, and like, obviously anecdotal, just going off what I see myself. I think this is driven by Cynthia more than Ariana. And I've noticed when there was a stitch on TikTok, so obviously like I'm brainwashed, but like, every time Ariana talks about their friendship, Cynthia will fix something on her body, she'll fix a necklace, she'll fix a ring. It's, it's like, it's, I'm not gonna, control sounds terrible because I'm not saying that it's kind of coercive or anything like that. I think they're like really good friends, but they're, they're obviously thick as thieves and there's a huge intimacy there. And they've really bonded and making this amazing piece of art together. But there's also, you know, like an ownership thing there, or maybe they're doing it for press, like.

• 39:07Speaker 03

  I, I don't, I don't, I don't, it's not that I don't like people touching me. And I, I like, I said this when I was in the jungle as well, because everyone was very huggy in there. And I was like, I'm not really like a massive hugger, like I don't like go around hugging every, it's just not my thing. And I just, I don't know how I'd feel about having a friend like that who's always like touching me.

• 39:26Speaker 02

  I don't think I've ever touched, I don't think I've ever touched you, have I?

• 39:29Speaker 03

  I once had, I once had someone sit in my lap before and I was like, oh my God, this is odd.

• 39:32Speaker 02

  Wasn't me. I wouldn't last a second there.

• 39:39Speaker 02

  Would last a second.

• 39:42Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 39:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I think, I think that I feel like that's led by Cynthia. I could be wrong. That's my personal opinion. I think Cynthia is more kind of witchy woo woo, bit away with the fairies, like fantastic, incredibly talented and all that jazz. And I think Ariana is.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  Where's their mom to tell them, stop being like that?

• 40:01Speaker 02

  On the receiving end of Cynthia's intense energy is what I would say.

• 40:06Speaker 03

  But I don't know. I, I went home to Sandra Wilson and I said, Mom, I just want you to know that Joanne and I are now in a non demi curious semi binary relationship. My mom would be like, pardon? What?

• 40:17Speaker 02

  And then she'd gone back to Rosario Fitz in the hallway. She has no time for that shit, nor, nor does.

• 40:24Speaker 03

  I'm like, Mom, do you shop anywhere else? Like, go and get Massimo Dutti.

• 40:30Speaker 02

  I think there's been something highly entertaining about the Wicked press tour. It's, they, they're.

• 40:37Speaker 03

  I still haven't seen it. Cause you told me it was two hours, 40 minutes long. I said, there's no way I'll get through that. So I still haven't even seen it.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Well, I actually told you it was an hour and 30 and then Missam stood and then Joe Fact Check didn't turn it. It was nine hours long. But I'd bought a couple of cans of gin, gin and tin, gin, a couple of ginny.

• 40:53Speaker 03

  A ginny, a ginny tea.

• 40:54Speaker 02

  A couple of ginny tinnies in. Um, but yeah, I think at this point they are, I think, I think Cynthia and Ariana might be trolling us.

• 41:01Speaker 03

  I mean, it does get a lot of press for, for Wicked now in fairness, because it just goes absolutely everywhere.

• 41:06Speaker 02

  If you have to use a thesaurus for every single word in a nine word description of your relationship, fuck off.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  Okay, here's one thing that I will say though. Imagine they're doing the press days all day long and there's just people in and out and in and out and asking the same questions the entire time. Which by the way, I blame their PR because you're, when I do things like that, you're, you're like given certain set of questions that you can ask. It's like, why, that's so boring for me and it's for them. But like, maybe they get so bored that they just come out with this random stuff.

• 41:34Speaker 02

  Do you know what folk? You've hit the nail on the head. So I'm doing a lot of press at the moment. I'm, I'm, I'm selling that night at Apollo. I'm doing the three arena. I have additional dates. And like the, the, these shows, you know, they're going to need some work to push because I've obviously been on the road for a year already. So we're, you know, I'm, I'm doing the, I'm doing the, doing the scene.

• 41:53Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:54Speaker 02

  And I am already bored of my own story.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  At one point, at some point, someone's gonna go, and you're adopted, I'm gonna go, no, not actually, made it up.

• 42:04Speaker 03

  Folks, my mom.

• 42:05Speaker 02

  This is why Kate Beckinsale owned The Jimmy Fallon Show by talking about her daughter's boyfriend laying eggs.

• 42:12Speaker 03

  What?

• 42:13Speaker 02

  Oh, you need to see this. It was a masterclass.

• 42:17Speaker 03

  I asked you to tell me if anything important had happened in the world, and you didn't tell me that. You started harping on about the budget, and I said, no, John, I mean like, real problems. What the fuck?

• 42:26Speaker 02

  It's a masterclass. It's a masterclass.

• 42:33Speaker 03

  Okay, everyone, thank you so much for listening. We will be back with a bonus on a Wednesday.