MTGM EXTRA! "You got played."

This week, we catch up with Joanne in Cork, the morning after she'd been out galavanting with everyone's favourite Drag Queen, Davina Devine. Meanwhile, Vogue was in the studio in London, getting ready to interview an absolute legend. If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com For more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.com This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:01Speaker 00

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:11Speaker 01

  Hello and welcome to the bonus episode of Joanne and Vogue. My therapist ghosted me. It was a bit different, wasn't it?

• 0:19Speaker 02

  I love that. Yeah. Keeping things, keeping things fresh. I had a very late night.

• 0:26Speaker 01

  How, oh, great. Tell us about it, Joanne. Are you hungover? That's my favourite.

• 0:30Speaker 02

  No, I'm not hungover, actually, Vogue, and I have no regrets.

• 0:32Speaker 01

  I need to be more like you.

• 0:34Speaker 02

  I just refuse to have regrets. I'm just like, even if I have regrets, I just deny my regrets. I'm like, no, you had a great time. Don't be giving out. You had a great time. You had a lovely time.

• 0:43Speaker 01

  You did have a great time.

• 0:44Speaker 02

  I'm down in Cork. I was opening the new Boots Beauty Store last night, which is unbelievable, by the way.

• 0:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, don't worry. I didn't see your stories about bear, but that's okay. Didn't see the bear down there, no?

• 0:56Speaker 02

  I have no excuse. I completely forgot about bear. I'm so sorry. I completely forgot about it. I was too busy trying to steal Armani, to be honest.

• 1:04Speaker 01

  The Armani foundation?

• 1:05Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I was like, hey, guys, look at the photographer. I was like, oh, look over there, there's a horse. And then I would just like.

• 1:12Speaker 01

  Look at the spider.

• 1:13Speaker 02

  Yeah. Boo, look over there. Oh, my God, it's your mother. She's back from the dead.

• 1:17Speaker 01

  Do you remember when you, when you used to buy that foundation when you were younger? Like, it was the foundation to have when you were like 16, 17, but like, I would use so little of it, just trying to save it all.

• 1:30Speaker 02

  That's very booty. You were using Armani foundation. I was using a pan stick. I was using chip oil, basically.

• 1:37Speaker 01

  Did you go through the Elizabeth Arden phase where you used that compact?

• 1:42Speaker 02

  I went through the Elizabeth Arden phase because I was using my mother's makeup, obviously. Do you know what I mean? So whatever she had, I had. Yeah.

• 1:51Speaker 01

  Well, I had stealing friends who used to steal my makeup.

• 1:54Speaker 02

  I do remember one Christmas, I got a really expensive bottle of foundation, really expensive, obviously, to me. I was very young at the time. But I remember, do you know, I once I got a CK1 deodorant and I think I made it last, I think I still, I think I still have it. I think I made it last 10 years. It's like, only half a pit today, half a pit's getting it, the rest is getting Mitchum.

• 2:13Speaker 01

  She smells weird.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  It was a CK1 roll on, I'll never forget it, I got it in my stocking at Christmas, because Santa.

• 2:19Speaker 01

  That's so. I've gone back to CK1 and people think I smell fresh, they're like, oh my god, I know that smell, why do you smell so fresh? I'm like, CK1.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  I've gone back to CK1 because it's practically free in the airports.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  I know, they are, they're doing a deal on all the oldies with the goldies, like Tommy Girl is on sale in the airports. Tommy Girl actually stinks, by the way, I think that we just liked the idea of Tommy Girl, go and have a sniff today.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Is it funny when you're, when you're older, oh, I will have a sniff, oh, I will have a sniff, yeah.

• 2:49Speaker 01

  That's all I do in the airport, is sniff around.

• 2:50Speaker 02

  I just sniff around, yeah, like a truffle pig, just sniffing around. I remember someone was like, who was it we were talking about, we were like, you don't wear perfume to the airport, what a waste, you go in, you get your perfume. Was it you, me, when we were that, it was like, oh my god, we're so embarrassing, it's like, I wouldn't waste a squirt. Obviously, I'm going to a free perfume centre.

• 3:09Speaker 01

  I wouldn't dream of wasting a.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Why would I waste a squirt?

• 3:14Speaker 01

  Everyone's cottoning on to it.

• 3:15Speaker 02

  You can rob us.

• 3:16Speaker 01

  I go to Tom Ford's, and Tom Ford's gone, all the samples are empty, because everyone, we've told everyone about the trick.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  What's the, what's the trick, just spray the.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Go and drown yourself in the free perfume.

• 3:27Speaker 02

  The trick, I don't think we invented that, there's women, I can see them all heading, heading straight into the perfume centre, we're all like sheep.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  Straight up to the free perfume centre, that's where I fly, I could easily rail and sail, to be honest, but I choose not to, so I can, so I can sniff my way through the free perfume centre.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  The workers at the perfume centre just stare at you, and they know what you're doing, it's like.

• 3:50Speaker 02

  They know well.

• 3:51Speaker 01

  I've got a full bottle at home, I'm just like topping up, I've got, I've got loads of this at home, I'm always buying Tom Ford's, my, my, my wardrobe's full of this.

• 3:59Speaker 02

  Take your judgemental eyes somewhere else, Elaine, I know you wouldn't pay for it either, okay?

• 4:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 4:05Speaker 01

  You're wearing CK1 on your days off, Lorraine.

• 4:08Speaker 02

  I'm willing to buy a flight to Dubai to get some free squirts of perfume in the, in the pre perfume centre.

• 4:14Speaker 01

  It's how you save money. If the flights are really expensive, don't worry, chill out, just get loads of pre perfume.

• 4:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, there, but when I smell Tommy Girl, it's funny when you get older, you want a signature scent. When you're young, you just want to smell like all your friends. We all just smell the exact same. But when I smell Tommy Girl now, it brings, to say it brings me back. Oh my God.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  I know.

• 4:33Speaker 02

  I'm in a field.

• 4:34Speaker 01

  Low. I like Tommy Boy though. Like Tommy Boy was, it reminds me of fancying people.

• 4:41Speaker 02

  As in, it reminds you of the la, it smells like the lads used to fancy.

• 4:44Speaker 01

  All the lads used to be wearing it. But people are funny about their perfumes. My cousin Sheena, she has this gorgeous perfume and she won't tell anybody.

• 4:51Speaker 02

  Tell you.

• 4:52Speaker 01

  What she's wearing. I'm like, Sheena.

• 4:54Speaker 02

  You can't gate your perfume. What are you, you can't do that. That's sick.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  She does. And she lives in Dublin. I'm like, I don't even live there. We're never going to smell the same. Give me your perfume.

• 5:04Speaker 02

  The woman who owns the perfume company is probably going out of business because no one will spread the word because you're one's being a tight bitch with the perfume. That's unethical.

• 5:13Speaker 01

  She does smell amazing and she smells amazing alone. So she gets all the glory.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  It's like when someone's like, I love your top. You're like, thanks. Like you made it yourself. You're like, thanks. I just bought it. Like I just bought the top. There was one time, there was a friend of mine, Anne-Marie, and she smelled delicious. I met her in Dundrum Town Centre. I'll never forget the day, Vogue. I'll never forget the day. Dundrum Town Centre. It was autumnal time. And I said, you smell amazing. And she said, it's Stella McCartney. And.

• 5:37Speaker 01

  I love the purple one.

• 5:38Speaker 02

  It's gone. It's gone. It was like my signature scent for like a year or whatever.

• 5:43Speaker 01

  What? I loved that perfume. My friend actually wears it. I'm sure it's not gone.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  It's gone. It lets you go on to some weird.

• 5:48Speaker 01

  That's a sad day.

• 5:49Speaker 02

  Unless, I have the dark web on my internet from that Furbies podcast. I might check.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  What are you doing on the dark web, Joanne? I'm not buying drugs, I'm actually just buying perfume.

• 5:59Speaker 02

  I'm like, folk, I think I'm having you assassinated later, but it's a total accident, okay? I was trying to find the perfume and I went onto the wrong dark website.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  That's where you find assassins?

• 6:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, that's kind of what people do and I'm scared. It's okay, I don't know how to work it, that's what I'm saying, something could go terribly wrong.

• 6:15Speaker 01

  Joanne and I could have a fight and she'll just be like, fuck her, I'm getting her assassinated.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  Yeah, a couple of drinks, I wake up and like, imagine I woke up and I was like, oh god, I really overreacted there. I should have just had it out, I should have just had it out and now she's dead, oh god. Gonna put the laptop on airplane mode for a while.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  I wanna go back to your night, I wanna go back to your night.

• 6:35Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, I cut ribbons now, that's, I cut ribbons.

• 6:36Speaker 01

  And what did you do? Did you just go, just have drinks in the Montenotte?

• 6:40Speaker 02

  It was me and Davina Devine and obviously the whole Booth team and everyone, yeah, and Sue and Karina styling and doing her makeup and blah, blah, blah. And because that's how I roll, you know, the whole, the whole team did it.

• 6:53Speaker 01

  I know, fair play, I'm gonna start demanding more.

• 6:56Speaker 02

  The whole team did it. And it was actually really, really nice, it was a really nice event, there was loads of canopies and me and Davina kind of talked on the stage for a little bit and yeah, it was gorgeous. It's on Half Moon Street in Cork, can't recommend it, no, five stars, and I pissed on the bear by Vogue stand and then I left, it was great night.

• 7:12Speaker 01

  Did you? Yeah, you cocked the leg and pissed all over my tan, did you?

• 7:15Speaker 02

  I said, yeah, I said, don't.

• 7:17Speaker 01

  I don't need your help with the tan, it's doing perfectly fine on its own, and don't you dare look at it.

• 7:21Speaker 02

  I'm not worried about you and the tan, I think you're doing great.

• 7:24Speaker 01

  I have just tanned myself, I actually, do you know what, last night I was like, I felt, do you ever feel like, you just are like, well, you didn't last night, you looked amazing last night. But like, I just looked at myself last night, I was like, I just feel like a rotten pig.

• 7:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, we all have that.

• 7:38Speaker 01

  I put on tan and I woke up this morning and I actually got a fright when I looked in the mirror, I was like, oh my god, I was that gorgeous creature. The day before, I was like, eh.

• 7:47Speaker 02

  It's a game changer, if you're a white woman, as white as, and I'm whiter than you, you're pretty, you're, you're kind of averagely white, I'm problematically white, I would say, I'm bordering on trans lesbian.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  Tan is a game changer. It's like, it's like, it's like taking a giant Xanax. You just feel amazing. You're like, oh my God, I look alive again.

• 8:07Speaker 01

  Between that and concealer, there's nothing that makes me happier, really, to be honest. And I'm including my kids in that. Prefer tan.

• 8:14Speaker 02

  I mean, we could, we could, like, give me world peace or a pan stick and I'm gonna go with the stick, guys. I'm gonna go with the stick.

• 8:20Speaker 01

  I decided we're gonna go on our holidays to Cornwall, because you know, when I go anywhere.

• 8:24Speaker 02

  Go on.

• 8:24Speaker 01

  Best place in the world. It's so nice and the people are really nice. It's quiet. There was people swimming in the sea in November and I thought, is the sea warm up here? It must be.

• 8:34Speaker 02

  I went to Cornwall once for a gig and there was a, I fell in love that obviously, because it's Cornwall, it's like gorgeous. And there was a house for sale and I looked at the price and I nearly fell out of my rowboat.

• 8:46Speaker 01

  It's very expensive.

• 8:48Speaker 02

  It's, yeah, it's proper expensive. Yeah. Everyone wants to live in Cornwall.

• 8:53Speaker 01

  I drove by Yeovil, a sign for Yeovil, and I actually burst out laughing in the car.

• 9:00Speaker 02

  Oh my God, yes.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Yeovil, the town that hates Joanne.

• 9:04Speaker 02

  I actually sold quite well in the end, you know, because I, I, I kind of, well, I spoke about it, I spoke about Yeovil solidly for two months and I think word eventually got around. I'll be going back for the next tour. I'll see, I'll see you in spring, Yeovil. It's a great room.

• 9:17Speaker 01

  I would come to Yeovil. It's very close to Cornwall.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  Do you remember they had posters up of the, they never asked for my photo or put my poster up, but they posted up of the shows they had. Do you remember they post my pat up?

• 9:28Speaker 01

  Joanne, I'm sorry, neither of us are ever gonna be as famous as Postman Pat.

• 9:31Speaker 02

  I know. And I, do you know what I was like?

• 9:33Speaker 01

  Wild dreams.

• 9:33Speaker 02

  I accept it. I know, I accept it. I accept it. Me and Bono were like on the ground in the toilet facing the wall.

• 9:40Speaker 01

  I was, I was, I was watching this video yesterday of Bono and he was singing Sunday, bloody Sunday and someone obviously had a sign up and they were in San Francisco. So they had, this is like years ago. I'd never seen the video. It was like, let's say it's 30 years ago and Bono singing Sunday, bloody Sunday. And he's like, it's the bit at the start, da, da, da, da, like the really good bit at the start. And he just sees the sign and he's like, and are you holding that sign?

• 10:06Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah.

• 10:07Speaker 01

  You're disgraceful. A sign for Shin Vane.

• 10:12Speaker 01

  It was for San Francisco.

• 10:13Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know, yeah. He misread the room there, yeah.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  Actually, because obviously I spent a lot of time on my phone. It's a five hour drive to Cornwall.

• 10:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:24Speaker 01

  It's like, do do do.

• 10:26Speaker 02

  He's too busy singing. He doesn't need to know how to read. He's incredibly talented in another area.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  He's incredibly talented.

• 10:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  Our Bono, our, our good pal Bono.

• 10:36Speaker 02

  Our Bon Bon.

• 10:37Speaker 01

  Have you ever met him?

• 10:38Speaker 02

  I feel like I have, but I could be, again, making that up. So I don't know, really. I feel like I have, but I feel like I, it's kind of like everyone in Ireland has at some stage. I think I, yeah, I have, I have. Yeah, go on, go on, I have, yeah, yeah.

• 10:50Speaker 01

  Yeah, I think I have too. I think I've been in a room with him, but I like, I don't think that we, I think we said a, like, hello. I think it was just like.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  I think, I think I saw him carolling singing in Dublin on Christmas. Am I thinking of the Muppets Fair? What am I thinking of?

• 11:02Speaker 01

  No, I think he might go carolling singing. I think there's a lot of people that go carolling singing.

• 11:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 11:06Speaker 01

  I've signed you up for the Grafton Street one this year, so you're gonna do the 23rd of December on your own. People just come and they like busk around you and then all the money goes to the Simon Community, so you are busking alone this year. I told Glenn Hansard he could have a break.

• 11:20Speaker 02

  You know how I feel about charity work. If I'm going into town, I'm taking the money for myself. Okay?

• 11:27Speaker 01

  Do you want to be wearing those sticky gloves, just like, brrr?

• 11:33Speaker 02

  Set up a fake Trevi cake.

• 11:34Speaker 01

  She only wants notes.

• 11:35Speaker 02

  Fake Trevi face at the end of Grafton Street. Like a paddling pool and just like.

• 11:41Speaker 01

  Did you see the pool they did put in? The Trevi Fountain is closed.

• 11:45Speaker 02

  It's closed for refurbishments, yeah.

• 11:48Speaker 01

  I know, but they basically put a shite little jacuzzi at the end of it. Like, do you really think people are, people are not that stupid. Well, they actually are because people have been throwing money in there.

• 11:56Speaker 02

  It's more just that throwing, that people just want the, they just want the, the throwing the money experience. I like, I don't understand. Throw, throw your money at me, I don't mind. But in the fountain, what's the point? Where does it go? Did the Vatican take it? I bet they do this, can't they, Vatican? Do they take it?

• 12:09Speaker 01

  Of course they do. Amber and I were once, we went, there was a, there was a. There was, there was a flood at the church up the road from us when we were growing up, me and Amber. And we went up swimming, because you know when you're just like, you're a child. So we were swimming in this giant puddle. And this group of boys that were older than us came and were like, like, what are these girls doing? And they started laughing at us. And then they started throwing money at us, but like trying to hurt us with the money. But we just.

• 12:32Speaker 02

  Only picking it up.

• 12:35Speaker 02

  Oh my God, is that where it all started?

• 12:38Speaker 02

  Is that where the illness began?

• 12:42Speaker 01

  Would you leave the money behind?

• 12:45Speaker 02

  I probably would. I, like, I'm lazy, you know what I mean? I probably would.

• 12:48Speaker 01

  We were like, doot doot doo, and off we went to Tony's to buy our penny sweets.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  And that's how she became a business bitch.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Did I tell you? I have a lad who messaged me on Hinge. This is kind of embarrassing. And he's like, hey, I turned 35. I was like, excuse me? So obviously, I went back up. We'd had some conversations about a year and a half ago. And I'd obviously said, come back to me when you're 35. And he did.

• 13:24Speaker 01

  That's so nice.

• 13:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, we're in love now, I think.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  I think that's, it's hard to meet a nice guy. That's a nice guy who is now making the effort to come back. I think you should look into it.

• 13:35Speaker 02

  Oh, no, I totally will. 35 is, to me, is absolutely grand.

• 13:40Speaker 01

  That's the perfect age. I, hang on.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  She's not even listening. I could tell you was 14. You're not even listening. You're on your phone.

• 13:48Speaker 01

  No, because I'm getting something out of my phone. My makeup artist, Alice, over here, was talking to this guy on Hinge. And he was really nice and they were getting on really well. And then he was like, oh, so like, what are your hobbies? And she's like, oh, like, I do like private Pilates lessons. He sent back this thing to her, like, they were voicing, and he said, oh, I'm just kind of into private Pilates. And like, I like, and my friend, she goes, oh, private Pilates! Like, this huge, long voice now, just slagging her off. Now, in fairness, I was like, he shouldn't have said private Pilates.

• 14:16Speaker 02

  Private Pilates, it's quite bougie. But if I was a guy, I'd be like, oh, she's clearly an absolute ride. Like, she's kind of a hot bod. If she's doing pri- she's private Pilates, she takes it seriously. She does it privately.

• 14:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 14:27Speaker 02

  She's got a bit of cash, she's got a hot bod.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  I think that that's what she was trying to get around.

• 14:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, she's like, I'm not fucking around with public Pilates here, okay? This is very much a private event.

• 14:41Speaker 01

  Dear Joanna Vogue, I want to preface this by saying I'm a bad person, in this context anyway. I slept with a man that has a girlfriend and two young kids.

• 14:52Speaker 01

  I'm 27, he's in his 30s. We used to work together, but I've moved on. He relentlessly flirted with me in public at work. Everyone knew there was something going on because of his behaviour. When he started texting me, I knew there was no going back. The minute I saw him on my first day, I knew I was mad about him.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  This is gonna go to shit. He made out, he gets no love or affection at home.

• 15:19Speaker 02

  Oh yeah, they all do that.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  Classic, classic. After six months, we slept together. A couple of weeks later, he totally backed off. Classic. He can't commit to me and doesn't want me to get hurt and needs to be subtle. I was so besotted with him, I would have casually carried on the affair. Honestly, I think he used me for sex. He did.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 15:41Speaker 01

  It was probably an ego boost. It was. My mum knows and said he's definitely done it before. I feel so guilty now and I also feel so hurt. I was a fool to think he actually liked me. He led me on. I suppose really it's karma for what I did. I go between wanting to get him back and ruining his life. We ended it on a civil note and I walked away because he couldn't be consistent. How do I get over him now? I love the part that's getting me through winter sad times and feeling guilty and still hurting.

• 16:10Speaker 02

  You got played. Sometimes, every now and again, you get played by someone. And you want to believe what they tell us, why wouldn't we? But you got played by a guy in a relationship and it happens to the best of us.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  I would, I would think, it does happen, it does happen. Obviously, it does happen. I'm not saying it doesn't happen to people, but I am saying that like, you kind of, like, I wouldn't even be bothered trying to ruin his life because, you know what, he's gonna ruin his own life. And I think that you should just move on and find somebody available who's not a dickhead, who's not a liar, and he's not gonna make you feel like shit. And who won't make you feel guilty.

• 16:42Speaker 02

  That's, that is, you know, you are a married woman. There's not a lot of lads out there. The pool is pretty small. So when someone comes in and they're really intent on winning you over, you kind of, you overlook certain stuff. Also, it's on him, it's not on her.

• 16:58Speaker 01

  No, I think it's on both of them. It's on both of them.

• 17:01Speaker 02

  I don't know. I've kind of, I've lost faith in everyone. But what I will say is, you're not the first and you won't be the last. That I can guarantee you. This is a pattern that he does. This is what he does. It's his thing.

• 17:13Speaker 01

  And he's not going to be happy in life anyway. So I think that you can take this time, you can like do, like make yourself feel better. Go and take yourself out. Go do nice things. Go to the gym. Like just do things that make you feel happy and try and just get them out of your head and try and meet somebody else. Because he's an asshole. He's gonna do this again. And I feel sorry for his partner.

• 17:32Speaker 02

  And he's, I feel sorry for his partner, but he's definitely thinking about you. Like it's definitely, you're not like, you know, you're not kind of gone from his brain forever. But he's, he's a mess. He's gonna just keep cheating on us. This is what he does.

• 17:45Speaker 01

  I'm really glad that she doesn't work with him either anymore because he would have had to put up with that shit. And he would have like picked you up and put you down whenever he felt like it. And it's really good that you're away from him now.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  And you know what as well, I would say, and I know this is like an old wives thing to say, but they never leave. Very rarely. I've, I've, I've never heard of anyone. I've heard of people in situations similar to this. I've never heard of anyone.

• 18:06Speaker 01

  It's rare.

• 18:07Speaker 02

  Actually leaving. Yeah. It's too hard. Like I'm set up here. I've got kids and all. I'm not leaving.

• 18:12Speaker 01

  Google affairs, because I did that when I read that book, Green Dot, because I was doing a little book club thing about it. And I Googled them and that is exactly true. The amount of people that leave when they have an affair is like minimal. Like I mean, like less than one percent or something. Nobody leaves. So don't make yourself be that person. Think higher of yourself than that bullshit. I really, I feel like, I, I feel like I would ruin his life for you.

• 18:38Speaker 02

  It's like you said, Vogue, he's gonna ruin his own life.

• 18:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, definitely.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  You know, all that lying and carrying on and shit. His partner will find out eventually. You're better off out of it.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  On, on a, on a slightly more positive note, have you seen that stuff about Gary Barlow's son? It's so mean.

• 18:56Speaker 02

  He's six foot 12 or something. I had no idea. And Gary's only five foot eight. What, I can't figure out the maths on this.

• 19:02Speaker 01

  I met Gary Barlow. I think you might have noticed that I never took a picture with him because I didn't want everyone doing to me what they're currently doing to his son. Gary Barlow's a pocket rocket. His son isn't a giant. His son's tall, but he's not like, he's not as tall as he is.

• 19:16Speaker 02

  I didn't realise how petite Gary Barlow was, but he's obviously a petite gentleman. But this, this will only do his son, like women are so obsessed with height.

• 19:24Speaker 01

  Obsessed.

• 19:25Speaker 02

  This will only do, like, I'll probably slip into his DMs myself. This will only do him a solid. We didn't even know Gary Barlow had a son. Not only does he have a son, but he's six foot 12. Like, go on.

• 19:34Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Get in.

• 19:36Speaker 01

  I think the son might be something like six foot four, but Gary Barlow is, like, he's a lot smaller.

• 19:42Speaker 02

  What height's the wife? I'd be asking questions if I was Gary. What height's the wife?

• 19:46Speaker 01

  Well, no, do you know what? My mum wasn't tall. My dad had a 29 inch leg, not tall, and I'm a giant. I don't know where I came from. Just tall as back the lines.

• 19:55Speaker 02

  Did I tell you I met a man recently and he was like, oh, it's yourself? And I was like, yeah. And he goes, I bought a car off your father. And I was like.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  I was like, um, what? I was like, I don't, do you mean Freddie? He's like, no, that wasn't his name. And I was like, I always think it was your grandad. And for somehow the community.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  Jim, he was probably talking about Jim, my uncle.

• 20:17Speaker 02

  He was talking about Jim. Jim, your uncle.

• 20:20Speaker 01

  I just bought a car off Jim.

• 20:22Speaker 02

  Someone obviously said something to him. It was at a christening and he, he, someone obviously was trying to tell them something about me. And he came up and said he bought a car off my father. Bought a car for your father. It was actually both uncle.

• 20:31Speaker 01

  We're just the same person to people.

• 20:33Speaker 02

  We're the same person.

• 20:33Speaker 01

  I get into taxis and they're like, you're the funny one. I'm like, no, I'm not the funny one. I'm still the one, still the one you're talking about.

• 20:39Speaker 02

  I get in, they're like, oh, you, I thought you were the hot one, but you're not. And I was like, no, no, no, I'm not.

• 20:44Speaker 02

  I take my sunglasses off, they're like, oh, you're the other one. Yes, I am. Yes.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  I don't think these videos, I don't think they'll be, what do you think?

• 20:59Speaker 01

  I got up and I've done my makeup and stuff. I want the videos to go.

• 21:04Speaker 02

  I was flat out last night cutting ribbons till all hours.

• 21:07Speaker 01

  You've, you've figured out how to hide behind your mic so you don't see, so you've got the sunglasses on. And then I'm like, you don't have a face.

• 21:16Speaker 01

  Remember that time you did the pot in the dark?

• 21:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do, yeah. And it was a perfectly acceptable thing to do, in my opinion. You know? Lights overrated sometimes. You're like, this isn't, it's not a light day. It's just not a, it's not.

• 21:32Speaker 02

  Anyway, I'd better go, I have to go to Dublin.

• 21:34Speaker 01

  I have to tell you one bit of good news. Guess who I'm interviewing for Never Live a Day next?

• 21:38Speaker 02

  Go on. Gary Barlow.

• 21:39Speaker 01

  Boy, boy, George.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  Oh my god, we love him.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  I did a shout out and I was like, "Any questions for Boy George?" And everyone was like, "Yeah, ask him why he doesn't follow you or Joanne." I don't think I'm gonna start with that.

• 21:55Speaker 02

  No, and like, we can't expect everyone to follow us. That's not how the world works.

• 21:59Speaker 01

  No, it's not how the world works. And we're happy with who follows us, that's fine.

• 22:03Speaker 02

  Yeah, now, I met him once, you did work extensively with him. If I was you, I'd be more offended. But it's not how the world works.

• 22:10Speaker 01

  Well, remember, I followed him and I unfollowed him. I haven't followed him back. I'm refusing. I'm taking a stand, but I will interview him and I can't wait to interview him, because he's actually really sound.

• 22:22Speaker 02

  Sometimes I won't unfollow someone, even though I know I should. I won't. I'll just, out of stubbornness, to make a point, I'll just keep following them.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  I'll just mute them, but I won't unfollow them. Men, I will unfollow, but if it's like someone I've had a bit of beef with, I won't unfollow them. I'm like, no, I'm not gonna, I'm not gonna lower myself to that.

• 22:39Speaker 01

  I'll wait till you pull the trigger.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  That's what I do, but I mute them. I have a lot of people on mute.

• 22:45Speaker 02

  Yeah, I mean, you have to look after your mental peace.