Brat, AI & Peanut The Squirrel

This week, there's just too much to get through. What CAN'T AI do? Who is Peanut? Why are people talking about 'brat' again and is Channing Tatum your type??? If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com For more information about Joanne's gigs, visit: www.joannemcnally.com This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

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  This is a Global Player original podcast.

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  Hello and welcome to My Therapist Goes With Me with me Vogue Williams.

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  And Joanne McNally.

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  Look at us. That's a lip sync. Put that on TikTok, Jo.

• 0:35Speaker 01

  Sorry, Jo. What were you saying? What were you saying earlier there? I forget what you were saying about me. Sorry.

• 0:39Speaker 02

  I got a text off me mother this morning. She said something about Vogue being on Lorraine this morning. She said she was amazing, so elegant. Has she been asked to do Strictly Come Dancing? Her back, core and leg muscles must be so strong.

• 0:53Speaker 01

  What the hell were you doing on Lorraine? Sorry, elegant. I've been called elegant. That's the second time today I turned. Lorraine called me elegant and I was like, coming from Lorraine and now coming from your mother. It must be true.

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  They have to. It's just because you're tall. They have to say something.

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  Okay, I'm going to show you what I did, right? Are you ready? Are you ready? Okay, so there's this TikTok dance and it's basically from someone of Strictly. Is it Strictly Come Dancing or Dancing With The Stars?

• 1:21Speaker 02

  Strictly in England.

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  And they did this move and now it's gone viral on TikTok. And then Lorraine asked myself and this guy Tyler, who also does a bit of presenting on Lorraine, she asked him as well if the two of us could do it together. And to our shock and horror, we were able to. And Jo, I have to agree. Like, if you didn't know me, you think that girl's elegant.

• 1:45Speaker 02

  Can I see it?

• 1:46Speaker 01

  I have to agree, I'm elegant.

• 1:50Speaker 01

  I've got to call a spade a spade.

• 1:54Speaker 03

  I'm as surprised as the rest of them.

• 1:56Speaker 01

  No, wait, no. I'll take Joanne's opinion on this, right, because she'll tell me her honest feelings.

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  Is it on your story? Where can I see this elegance?

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  You ready? Look, okay, look. Can you see us?

• 2:09Speaker 03

  A little, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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  So they come to the front of the studio.

• 2:13Speaker 01

  Oh, the jeans are a bit unfortunate looking when I stood up. Look, there you go, lying on the ground.

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  Yeah, arms back.

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  Tyler's holding your foot.

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  Whoa.

• 2:23Speaker 03

  Oh, my.

• 2:24Speaker 01

  Oh, yes, Vogue. Not the end, don't look at the end. That was Tyler's fault.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  Oh, that's so, that's so impressive, but that's because you've got strong legs.

• 2:35Speaker 01

  Those girl legs have come in handy.

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  Yeah.

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  You see?

• 2:41Speaker 03

  That is strength, because actually I did see that floating around TikTok and they were showing all the times they didn't get it right and they, had you practised that?

• 2:48Speaker 01

  No, but Joanne, I'm just, I'm going to throw it out there, I think that we should do it. I'll be the man, obviously. You be, you be the woman in this case. No, I think that I would be, I don't think you'd be able to pull me off the ground, I'd be able to pull you off the ground.

• 3:01Speaker 03

  But you're the one who can do us.

• 3:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, but you can do it. You've got various, I've seen you squat, you've got strong legs.

• 3:09Speaker 03

  I'll give it a go, I'm happy to give it. I've been saying for ages we need to start doing TikTok trends.

• 3:13Speaker 01

  I know, but you know, we like to talk about it for six to eight months and then we'll, and then we'll try.

• 3:17Speaker 03

  I know, I was scrolling through, it was like, oh, me and Vogue should do that, and then I never think about it again.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  But this has been going on since brat summer. We should do that.

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  The amount of, the amount of people I follow on TikTok, because they, they, I just see, they're just doing, they're just doing trends, that's all they're doing. And I just go, I'm like, yeah, that's fun. And then I go in and I see who they are and I follow them and it really works.

• 3:39Speaker 01

  One of my, yeah, some of my favourite people to follow now are those people who have like Amazon finds. And you know, these people who have found the most random stuff on Amazon, but stuff that you're like, hang on a second. I need a small home for my dishcloths and like, they have this like special house that lives on the side of the sink. For your dishcloths or like these spice houses, I've seen spice houses, you know, you've got your.

• 4:03Speaker 03

  It's sold out. I tried to get it.

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  Did you try to get a Spice House?

• 4:06Speaker 03

  Well, if it's the one I'm thinking of, I was also sold a Spice House. That doesn't, like I was saying, I wasn't, it's not a scam, but when I went in, they're like, the Spice, because you see, if anything takes off on TikTok, these companies can't cope with the demand that they need. So anyway, they were like, the Spice House is sold out. You could hear the stress in their voice. I was like, what do I need a Spice House for? Are you soft? The rest of them should be sitting vacant.

• 4:27Speaker 01

  I need a Spice House.

• 4:30Speaker 03

  Yeah, you do. You, you have a, you've like spices, more than one.

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  Have you heard of this thing? Now, again, I'm sorry, everybody. I know that I do tend to be behind the times. I'm still working off like people going on AliExpress. Have you heard of this new one called Timu?

• 4:46Speaker 03

  Yeah. Even Jo, even Jo was wearing a Timu.

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  Everything's 50p, isn't it?

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  And they tell you what savings you made at the end and you can get every, I'd say you could find a Spice House on there.

• 4:57Speaker 03

  I'm anti-Timu.

• 4:59Speaker 01

  I'll jump on that bandwagon because I haven't used it yet.

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  Yeah, I'm anti. It's so cheap. It's just, it's tat. Like, if you want to return anything on Timu, they don't even take it back. They're like, just go on here and win. Just shite.

• 5:11Speaker 01

  I like tat. I like tat.

• 5:14Speaker 03

  I bought a nice jewellery box off it, but that I, and also it annoys me because every time you search anything, I, I was wondering was there a way of blocking Timu on my Google search? Because every time I search for anything, all these Timu options come up. Timu is like the sheen of bits and bobs.

• 5:29Speaker 01

  Yeah, that's what I was thinking. It might be like that. Tell me, tell me, tell me about your day so far today.

• 5:34Speaker 03

  Well, Vogue is salivating. Slip sliding on herself because I have the organised ladies in with me to organise my wardrobes. They're basically, you know, this kind of, these businesses now where people are coming in and folding and organising stuff. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So they're working away, they're working away in the, in the bedroom there. We just had our little press lunch together. They're like, is there anything else you're going to throw out? And I was like, no. And there's just a pile of two t-shirts on the ground and everything else is staying.

• 6:06Speaker 03

  Thousands of other bits.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  You do a good clear out though, every so often.

• 6:10Speaker 03

  And I said to the girls that I've just done a clear out, so.

• 6:13Speaker 01

  Now, I will say, you want to bring yourself back in there because sometimes I say that and then it's eight bags later and I'm like, oh, hang on, there was other stuff to get rid of.

• 6:20Speaker 03

  Yeah, but yeah, it was unfortunate. I've just done it. They were like, we're going to do a detox. And I was like, oof. But anyway, they're working away in there. It's fantastic. I'm already seeing things coming together. They were saying, okay, Juman, is this t-shirt, is this lounge or is this going out? And I was like, there is no difference for me. So lounge and going out, it's all the same. Lounge, going out and gigging. It's all those t-shirts and jeans. Like, there's no, I realise.

• 6:42Speaker 01

  Sometimes pajamas.

• 6:44Speaker 03

  It's only when someone holds your wardrobe up to you, you're like, God, I've really let myself go. Like, there's all these gorgeous glitzy diamante things, which I, I just wear jeans and t-shirts, jeans and t-shirts, jeans and t-shirts, jeans and t-shirts, jeans and t-shirts.

• 6:58Speaker 01

  That's the cool, I was, I was hosting an event on Friday night and I had to wear this like long sequin dress. Well, they didn't have to, but like they wanted me to be dressed up. And I just felt like such a gobshite. People were like, your dress is gorgeous. And I was like, really? Like, I just wanted to be in, I'm more like leggings jumper, leggings.

• 7:18Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. You hit a, you hit a wall in your life where the gooners go. The gooners go. The goon, goon is Irish for dress, Jo.

• 7:26Speaker 02

  Uh, I was gonna Google it, but thank you.

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  We do enjoy a goona though.

• 7:31Speaker 03

  How would you have spelt it?

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  Oh, don't do this to me. G U N A, probably.

• 7:36Speaker 01

  Yes.

• 7:37Speaker 03

  Oh my God.

• 7:39Speaker 01

  That's correct.

• 7:41Speaker 03

  So you fucking Guelgore now, Jo? How did that happen?

• 7:44Speaker 02

  Is that, is that the one that's going to get me the Irish passport or do I have to keep working?

• 7:47Speaker 01

  Listen, Jo, you're not getting an Irish passport. You have to live in the country.

• 7:50Speaker 03

  Folks, I don't know. Be able to spell goonat is pretty impressive.

• 7:54Speaker 01

  Listen, Neil Wilson, I'm telling you, 36 years he was looking for an Irish passport. Spencer's been sniffing around. I'm like, dude, get back in your fucking queue. Sorry, get back in your fucking queue, would you?

• 8:07Speaker 03

  Oh my God. Honestly, he tries to get in. I was asking the organised ladies, because I was obviously, you know it yourself now, you're just like making sure you've cleared out the drawers of anything that, you know, doesn't need to be tidied away by a complete stranger. And I was like.

• 8:26Speaker 01

  You prefer Caroline to come in and do that for you.

• 8:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. I leave them for Kevin.

• 8:32Speaker 03

  I leave them for when the lads are moving and I just drop them. Yeah.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  Oh, that bit's buzzing. I don't know what that is. Oh, God.

• 8:39Speaker 03

  Be careful with the box.

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  How did that naked Polaroid get there? Mmm, yum.

• 8:48Speaker 03

  But anyway, I was, I was just doing a little kind of a last ditch, a last minute kind of feel through to see if there was anything phallic that I could, that could be removed. And I was like, and they're like, oh, we've seen it all. And I was like, do you know what? I actually know. I don't, like, I, I do, I am going to make the effort. But I'm also not going to be embarrassed if you do come across something because we're all adults, blah, blah, blah. And I was like, I'd say you find stuff all the time. It's like, it's like if you go into a nurse, you're not embarrassed because you're like, they've seen it all. And they're like, oh yeah. They're like, we've seen everything. And they said, the last house we did, they said they found a, of a cone dildo or a vibrator cone? They said it was a huge joke. And the owner was like, oh, sorry. I didn't mean to leave that there. He goes, let me, let me show you how it works.

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  Stop. You see, I wouldn't be embarrassed by something like that so much.

• 9:34Speaker 03

  It's this huge big cone thing and you stick it on the wall. It's got like one of those suction pads on the bottom and then it rides you from behind.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  Oh, no. Okay. Okay. I, I might be embarrassed about that.

• 9:44Speaker 03

  Yeah. I thought, I thought you were very, very confident there before you really knew what it was.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Do you ever, it's like, it's like the vibrating vaginas and stuff like you just can't be seen with something like that. How someone goes into a shop and buys that is beyond me. I'll have one of your, I'll have a large vibrating vagina, please. Like, no.

• 10:03Speaker 03

  I was buying a accessory in, um, America and I was in an accessory.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  You have so many. I don't know why you're buying it.

• 10:12Speaker 03

  Because I lose them like I lose everything else.

• 10:16Speaker 01

  Imagine the litter of those left around hotel rooms. Poor Fitzpatrick's. They have a full, their, their box is full.

• 10:23Speaker 02

  My locker at work is still full. I've still got loads of, they've got sent in for you in my locker at work. Very embarrassing when I open it.

• 10:31Speaker 03

  When I was, that's really funny. We must collect them. When I did, I did the guys, we fucked podcast when I was in New York. And when I, when I, when I came in, they're like, can we get you anything? Do you want like a, a drink, a seltzer, some chocolate, a dildo? I was like, what? And they were like, they get sent in so many free sex toys because of the podcast that they're like, and I was like, I'd love to take them, but then I was too embarrassed. Anyway. When I was buying an accessory in-

• 10:55Speaker 01

  You've never been embarrassed before. I'm shocked you said no. You literally like you swiped them all, the ones that are now living in Jo's wardrobe.

• 11:02Speaker 03

  It was more, it was more like going in like as a guest, like rinsing them a free vibrator. You know, it's like, it's not a great look. Um, but anyway, I was buy, I was buying an accessory in LA and um, while I was buying it, it was a late night shop and it's just like, it's, it's called, I think it's called Circus or something. And this guy came in and he was clearly off his tits. So I was trying to-

• 11:25Speaker 01

  Get drugs off him.

• 11:27Speaker 03

  Have this transaction. No, I was trying to buy my accessory, folk. Okay?

• 11:32Speaker 01

  Can I have some?

• 11:34Speaker 03

  My accessory. And this guy was like, where'd you get your runners? Oh my God, I love your, I love your rings. I was like, dude, can a woman not just buy an accessory in peace here? He's like, sorry, I've just taken an ecstasy. And I was like, okay.

• 11:47Speaker 03

  And the guy's trying to, do you know when they're trying to fold it into that really obvious bag? And like this whole, the whole time, this like young lads bouncing beside me, trying to engage me in conversation when I'm trying to pay for a fucking vibrator.

• 12:01Speaker 03

  He's like, cash your card, cash your card. I was like, just put it in the bag.

• 12:05Speaker 01

  He just wanted a little love chat, a little love chat with you.

• 12:08Speaker 03

  He's like, I love your runners, they're mad looking. I was like, oh my God.

• 12:12Speaker 01

  Not the time, my friend.

• 12:14Speaker 03

  Not the time.

• 12:23Speaker 01

  Do you wanna get glam before this? No, thanks. I'd actually rather be ugly and stay in bed in my house.

• 12:29Speaker 03

  Takes too long.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  Rather be late and ugly.

• 12:32Speaker 03

  That's our mantra.

• 12:38Speaker 01

  I tried to pull a Joanne. I went around to the coffee shop around the corner to write some bits and bobs. And I was sitting there writing, I don't know how you do it, because there was three guys sitting beside me and all I could do was listen to their conversation. I couldn't even pretend to type anymore. I was like, the typing is getting in the way of the listening. I have to actually just be still.

• 12:58Speaker 03

  It's a fine line. It's this fine balance. Like, actually, the women were asked, I keep on the women, the organised girls, they're like, "Oh, you write at your desk in your apartment." I was like, "Yeah, I kind of have to because..." This is why sometimes I'll sit in and play coffee shop sounds through my Alexa, because then you get the buzz of, the pretend buzz of thinking you're out of the house, but you're actually safely in the silent womb of your own sitting room. If people talk, it's too much. That's why I play instrumental music. I know, it's a fine line. You need to go to somewhere and also put in noise cancelling headphones.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  I know, but I just find myself just really wanting to just overhear their conversation. But they were actually, I was really surprised, because obviously, we're not privy to sitting amongst a total male conversation. And they were talking about how like, they found theirselves and how they didn't want to just be lateral anymore, they wanted to grow. And I was like, "What the fu-" This is not what I thought they spoke about.

• 13:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, the wellness has got the lads now also. They've fallen victim to it. Yeah. There's a lot of, there's a lot of ground going on at the moment. I don't know, is it the season? There's a lot of ayahuasca, there's a lot of change, a lot of witchy woo woo shit going on. And lads are also trying to evolve. It's, it's great. It's great to hear. Isn't it, Jo?

• 14:09Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's a very positive thing. Be your best self or whatever.

• 14:12Speaker 01

  What do you talk to your friends about, Jo? About changing, about growing?

• 14:16Speaker 02

  I have a feeling that the, the growth conversation amongst men, it is particular types of men, and I have a feeling it is to do with the age of men as well. Because I've not got there yet. We're not, we're not improving ourselves. We're still talking about football and going to the pub.

• 14:30Speaker 03

  Are you though, Jo? Is that just your group of friends? Because I feel there is a shift in men, my age anyway, from going from doing the helicopter with their dicks at the weekend to now very much about growth and the world and what they contribute to it and stuff like that. So are you sure it's not just your friends?

• 14:47Speaker 02

  I don't mean that we're having those conversations in a toxic way. We're still talking about football and, you know.

• 14:52Speaker 01

  That's what they enjoy.

• 14:53Speaker 02

  You know, there are talks about feelings these days, which is good. How do you feel? All right? Sad? No.

• 14:59Speaker 03

  Yes. That's nice. That's a start.

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  It's coming on.

• 15:03Speaker 01

  I'd say there's still some helicoptering though. I don't think that they ever grow out of that.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  Oh, of course. Every Friday night.

• 15:10Speaker 03

  It always ends in the helicopter.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 15:13Speaker 03

  It'll start somewhere deeper and it'll end with some light helicoptering.

• 15:17Speaker 02

  You gotta let off some steam.

• 15:18Speaker 03

  You gotta let off some steam, Jo. You gotta let off some steam. You know what I mean? And Jo, but Jo, can we just say you are the least toxic person me and Vogue collectively know, and that's including ourselves.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 15:32Speaker 02

  I'm not, I'm not a good advert for sort of, uh, alpha male men. That's not, that's not me.

• 15:39Speaker 03

  No, you are. That's, sorry. Not, not, alpha male does not equate with toxic male. They're not the same thing. I know loads of amazing alpha men who aren't toxic at all. You know, there's toxic traits to all genders as far as I'm concerned. There's also toxicity to femininity at times.

• 15:55Speaker 01

  I would say a lot of people are quite toxic as well. Like, you can't, like.

• 15:58Speaker 03

  Everyone has their moments. Everybody has. I tell you what, I was stinking of toxicity yesterday. I was in an absolute stink bomb. That's why when I was listening back to our app, I was like, oh, actually, maybe the mood had lifted by then. I just, you ever have those days and you're like, oh, damn it. You just can't get out of your funk. I went for a run today because I still kind of felt a bit funky-ish. And I swear to God, unbelievably, after dragging myself for one lap at the park, I felt brilliant. Thank God. It's all, it's the fresh air. You can't beat the nature. You can't beat the nature. That's why I, so I, I obviously, I have a peloton bike, which I love and adore. But sometimes, like, Joanne, open, at least open the window when you're doing your peloton, so you get a bit of wind on your face.

• 16:43Speaker 03

  Do you know what I mean? Instead of just sitting in this fucking house all day.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  Are you still on the peloton? I never use the peloton anymore.

• 16:49Speaker 03

  Well, I need to get back into it now. I've kind of gone a bit soft since I was in the States for that length of time. I need to get back into my fitness, my fitness.

• 16:56Speaker 01

  Sorry, did you, we'd never touched on this news. Did you see that Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz broke up? Channing? Tatum. Joanne. He's, he's your, he's your type. He is, that's the kind of guy that you go for.

• 17:12Speaker 03

  He was my type.

• 17:14Speaker 01

  He wouldn't be my type now.

• 17:15Speaker 03

  I'm evolving too. Would I go up against Zoe Kravitz?

• 17:19Speaker 01

  Yeah. She doesn't want him anymore. She doesn't want him anymore.

• 17:25Speaker 03

  So the Channing, so where, where, I can't remember where I was or what I was doing when I got the news about Channing Tatum and Zoe Kravitz. But I do remember doing a deep in, I was, I went, oh, and then the person with me said, what? And then of course, when I relayed the information, they looked at me like I was completely insane that this had bothered me in any way. But they did seem quite solid up to late.

• 17:45Speaker 01

  They did. And they were posing pictures as close as like two weeks ago where she was like lying on his lap.

• 17:50Speaker 03

  His chest.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Yeah. Oh, I saw a lap. Maybe it was chest.

• 17:54Speaker 03

  It was lap, lappy chest, lappy chest.

• 17:56Speaker 01

  A lappy chest. She's tiny. She was bouncing between the two. She is so gorgeous. Did you see though, you remember his ex Jenna Dewan? He, she was Channing Tatum's ex-wife and she's now had a child with somebody else. And the guy she had a child with commented under the post of them breaking up, ha.

• 18:17Speaker 03

  He, so he, he, I know exactly the story you're talking about because obviously I did a little.

• 18:22Speaker 01

  Is it not true?

• 18:23Speaker 03

  No. So basically what happened was you're, the paper, they're so funny. So yeah. So he did this Insta story with just ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, ha, right? But the pre, but the story before that, he posted a meme about a pot plant dying in a house or something like this. And so it was a reaction to the meme, but of course everyone was like, oh, look, I mean, who would be that psychotic to do that?

• 18:47Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, but I prefer my story. I prefer my story. Let's stick with that.

• 18:51Speaker 03

  I know. I'm sorry.

• 18:53Speaker 01

  It's so amazingly petty.

• 18:56Speaker 03

  I know, but no, it wasn't, it wasn't, it wasn't true, but we can always just pretend.

• 19:01Speaker 01

  Well, I, we do like a bit of spite. Remember Paloma Faith, what she did when she was being spiteful and she put up, I love, I just absolutely loved it. She had a billboard at the end of her exit street and Lana Del Rey as well. In 2022, she put up a single billboard in one city because that's where her ex-boyfriend lived. So to promote her whole album, just one single billboard.

• 19:23Speaker 03

  It's hilarious.

• 19:25Speaker 01

  I love it so much.

• 19:26Speaker 03

  I know. I'd have to, I'd have, I'd have to have more than just one billboard.

• 19:29Speaker 01

  Bored now, but I'd I'd happily spread them out. What would you do? You can either say nothing, and I kinda did say nothing for my big breakup. And I can't, like, I should, maybe I shouldn't have, maybe I shouldn't have.

• 19:42Speaker 03

  No, I think sometimes, as Brandon Courtney says to me, a diplomat thinks twice before they say nothing at all.

• 19:49Speaker 01

  I know, it is so true. There's no point in, oh, I guess, but they're just so funny.

• 19:53Speaker 03

  I love when other people do it. I wouldn't be willing to do it myself.

• 19:56Speaker 01

  Yeah, no.

• 19:57Speaker 03

  Do you get me?

• 19:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, other people doing it brings joy to us and we don't have to get ourselves in trouble first.

• 20:02Speaker 03

  Exactly, exactly. But taking out a billboard in your ex's town is quite the flex.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  Do you know what Mariah Carey did to to James Packer? He's this Australian billionaire. You remember your man and she was engaged to him?

• 20:14Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:15Speaker 01

  And they broke up and she tried to sue him for $50 million for an inconvenience fee.

• 20:20Speaker 03

  That's hilarious. God, I love Mariah.

• 20:23Speaker 01

  I just love her so much.

• 20:26Speaker 03

  I know, she's fab. Because 50 million would be nothing to him, do you know what I mean? That's like money in his console or whatever they call that middle bin in the, between the two seats in the car.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  And I'm telling you, breaking up with somebody is, it's inconvenient, it's annoying, like, having to move all your shit out, having to start your whole, like, you've got to start your life nearly again.

• 20:44Speaker 03

  And also, Mariah's so, she's so confident that she would see it as an inconven- did he break up with her or did she break up with him?

• 20:52Speaker 01

  Oh, no, I think he might have broken up with her. Do you know Jennifer Love Hewitt?

• 20:56Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  So she was engaged to this fella and they, and he ended their engagement and then she tried to rename their dog so that it wouldn't come when he called it.

• 21:09Speaker 03

  That I love.

• 21:11Speaker 01

  Spicy spice.

• 21:13Speaker 03

  That's hilarious. It's like, he doesn't love you, he doesn't, you don't love me anymore and he, the dog doesn't love you anymore.

• 21:18Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 21:24Speaker 03

  He's breathing.

• 21:27Speaker 01

  Is that me breathing? Can you hear me breathing?

• 21:29Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 21:31Speaker 01

  Stop breathing, bitch!

• 21:33Speaker 03

  It's very loud.

• 21:35Speaker 01

  Through nostrils.

• 21:38Speaker 03

  Jo, I don't know if you would have seen this, but you are kind of big up in your Irish news. The fake Halloween parade in Dublin.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  Oh my god, it was just so good. I'm glad I didn't hear about it because I would have been there. So to explain this.

• 21:53Speaker 03

  You would have been there!

• 21:55Speaker 01

  I would have definitely.

• 21:56Speaker 03

  With the kids and all.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  With all three, I would have been like, oh, I was not missing this.

• 22:01Speaker 03

  Basically, there was a website which pretends it's hosted out of America, but it's actually hosted in Pakistan. And they were listing all the events that were happening for Halloween. But they were AI-generated, they used AI to generate the list of events. And Machnes, which is this, they're from Galway, it's like a theatre company. They do these amazing parade, like they do like puppets and stuff for Halloween. They're fantastic, they're unreal. And they usually play a parade in Dublin. So AI got it wrong and no one fact-checked it. So all these people turned up for Machnes in Dublin, like thousands of people turned up for Machnes.

• 22:41Speaker 01

  The whole road, O'Connell Street was full of people.

• 22:45Speaker 03

  Black with people and there was no Machnes. And the guards were like, okay, there's nothing happening here. And then they thought it was a hoax. But the guy who runs the website came out and he's mortified. He's like, it's not a joke, we made a mistake, we used AI. There's two stories, one is saying they used AI and AI got it wrong. And there's another story saying some intern just put it in because the traditionally Machnes does do the parade in Dublin. But there was no parade. But I was thinking, imagine you were in Machnes and like, and you got this alert to say that you were on a parade in Dublin. You didn't know you were on. So imagine the panic, you'd be running down with the birthday candles from the drawer and a pumpkin on your head.

• 23:26Speaker 01

  Oh god, stop.

• 23:28Speaker 03

  Elaine, pass me my pumpkin, I'm due and work, I had no idea.

• 23:34Speaker 01

  It's actually, it's so bad when you watch the videos though because it's full of people. And it's literally kids and everything just standing in the cold, dark, waiting for the parade to happen. And at what point do they all leave? Like, how long were they standing there for?

• 23:49Speaker 03

  Hours.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  Oh, stop, please.

• 23:51Speaker 03

  So it was, it reminds me of, there was a time where, when I was doing that run of Icarus Streets. And if, I just look at my calendar, if it's not on the calendar, I don't go. I'm like, you know, it's, if it's not, if it's not on the calendar, it doesn't exist as far as I'm concerned. And someone had, there was, basically, I was out for brunch with my friends and I was a couple of wi- couple of wines in. And the stage manager texted me asking, she was like, because I was off, as far as I was concerned, I had no show. And the stage manager texted me going, is there anything you want updated in the green room or anything? And I was like, why are you asking me that? And she's like, well, you're, you have a show tonight.

• 24:27Speaker 01

  Stop.

• 24:28Speaker 03

  I was like, what? Oh my God. You're joking me. She's like, no. And this was at, say, like, five o'clock. The show starts at eight.

• 24:41Speaker 01

  So you made it in though?

• 24:42Speaker 03

  Of course I did, of course I did. I'm a pro. I've been drinking all day. Went in.

• 24:47Speaker 01

  I think that was the best show.

• 24:49Speaker 03

  It was my day off. Of course I was getting stuck in. Went in, Garode saw me, he's like, oh my God. I was like, shut up. Turn off the lights. So I fell asleep for an hour, then went out into the show and was grand. But I understand that fear when you're like, oh my God, I'm supposed to be somewhere I'm not, I'm supposed to be working.

• 25:06Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 25:06Speaker 03

  So I hope, I hope no one in Machness was too stressed about, you're not there, you've got the night off, you're grand.

• 25:17Speaker 03

  So AI, two things about AI, it has no sense of humour and it can't do hands. Did you know this?

• 25:24Speaker 01

  What do you mean it can't do hands?

• 25:26Speaker 03

  It can't mimic hands. So you'll notice if an AI, like, so remember when Donald Trump did an AI of Taylor Swift saying that she endorsed him?

• 25:35Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah.

• 25:36Speaker 03

  Her ha- it's always, you can tell by the hands.

• 25:39Speaker 01

  I, I, like, I'm so frightened of AI. I can't tell you. I had a big fight with Sven over it because he, I was like, stop bringing it up. Cause he was telling me that in like 50 years' time, they could take over and kill us all. And then we're like, shit, we're living in Terminator and I don't want that. Cop coming after me with those knife arms.

• 25:57Speaker 03

  I mean, yeah, there is, there is an ongoing debate about are they gonna take over? But there was a time when, and I think it's, I think this is reassuring, Vogue. This will reassure you.

• 26:06Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 26:06Speaker 03

  That AI can also get it wrong. So there was an NBA player who accused, who was tweeting about another NBA player in America somewhere, saying that he was shooting bricks in whatever town they were in. Shooting bricks is basketball slang for, just like shooting shit balls, like not getting it through the net. And AI reported that he was vandalizing homes and like did this, all this news report came up that this basketball.

• 26:27Speaker 01

  Oh, stop.

• 26:28Speaker 03

  Yeah. So they do fuck up. They do fuck up. AI can't do hands, which I only learnt about recently, which I'm so glad because if I released accidentally had a sex tape leaked, I'd try and claim it was AI. And they'd be like, John, your hands are perfectly formed. And I'd be like, fuck.

• 26:44Speaker 03

  I'm like, no, no, that's not me. They're like, your hands are perfectly formed, John. Even at the speed they're moving at, we can see them perfectly.

• 26:56Speaker 01

  That's not a bad bloody idea. Release an AI sex tape and then let it go for ages and get the publicity from it and then say, hang on, that was AI. And then you've kind of gotten, but you didn't have to release a sex tape and make sure like you're really good as well, like bouncing around on top and spinning around. And then say, oh, it's not me.

• 27:15Speaker 03

  They, if you release a sex tape, they'd be like, oh, it must be AI. Look at its hands. And you'd be like, no, that's actually my video. There are my hands.

• 27:23Speaker 01

  Yeah, no one has hands that size. That's not real. That's not real.

• 27:26Speaker 03

  They'd be like, oh, look, I mean, there's no way we're gonna believe that. Look at its hands.

• 27:31Speaker 02

  They're so ungainly and unnatural. Look at them.

• 27:34Speaker 03

  They're unnaturally sized. The way they move, that's not normal. Folks like sniggering in the wings. That's my type.

• 27:44Speaker 01

  I felt a pang of jealousy recently, right? I was watching, I was watching a video of Chris Martin and he was backstage and he was singing with this really pretty girl. And I was like, I'm jealous. Why am I jealous? I think I fancy Chris Martin now. I've moved on.

• 28:04Speaker 03

  Well, they say jealousy is a natural feeling for when someone has something you want or something you think you deserve. So either you think you deserve Chris Martin or you want him.

• 28:12Speaker 01

  I think it could be both. And I also wanted her entire, I just wanted to have her body as my body and face. She was absolutely gorgeous. I was like, oh my God, why am I jealous?

• 28:25Speaker 03

  He's a hot guy. I like Chris. He's got a lot of, he's got a lot of sexual energy.

• 28:31Speaker 01

  Now, I don't know if anyone who is not on TikTok and other places such as TikTok, there was a squirrel who had basically gone viral. So this guy owned this squirrel in New York City. He was called Peanut the squirrel. It's 700,000 Instagram followers. And he was owned obviously by a man who owns loads of animal sanctuaries and stuff like that. And he looked after this squirrel and like cared for him and everything. Until somebody, well, maybe a few people, got in touch with the Department of Environmental Conservation and said, there's a squirrel that's being kept in an apartment in New York. And it shouldn't be there. This man shouldn't be allowed to do that. Blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.

• 29:13Speaker 01

  Anyway, they went, they took the squirrel into custody. The squirrel got obviously really frightened because it was out of its home, bit one of the officers and then they put the squirrel down.

• 29:24Speaker 03

  Mm hmm.

• 29:25Speaker 01

  How bad is that?

• 29:27Speaker 03

  And now the squirrel has become involved in the American election because basically it's become this, this huge big, like Elon Musk is tweeting about the squirrel saying Trump would never have let that happen. And all this, this is the fucking man who put kids in cages. They think he's gonna save a squirrel.

• 29:48Speaker 03

  It's so funny. So I actually feel sorry for Peanut the squirrel.

• 29:52Speaker 01

  Poor Peanut.

• 29:55Speaker 03

  But then, so this, this story is now hit, like, it's in the Daily Mail and stuff. So it turns out, so Mark, who's the squirrel's owner, who's quite attractive, because Mark kept saying, I tried to set the squirrel free and it kept coming back. And I was like, yeah, I'd come back to you too, Mark. You're hot, like, fucking hell.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:10Speaker 03

  Anyway, you had the little squirrel in cowboy hats and I, I think there should be a law that you can't kill animals who wear hats.

• 30:16Speaker 01

  But anyway, the squirrel was living its best life in New York City with Mark, his owner, and being dressed up and loving it.

• 30:23Speaker 03

  It turns out, Mark now thinks he's like, oh, this is, it's an inside job. Mark and his wife make a lot of money on OnlyFans and Mark thinks that the reason they got ratted out was because, like, four, four agents came and took the squirrel away. Like, it was a lot.

• 30:41Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 30:42Speaker 03

  But Mark, Mark said they made 800 grand in a month, right?

• 30:46Speaker 01

  On OnlyFans?

• 30:48Speaker 03

  And the reason they make so much money is because Peanut went viral and they got all the business to their OnlyFans from Peanut's account. I was like, at what point are you looking at a squirrel in a hat and you're like, oh my God, I'd love to see their owners ride on OnlyFans? Like, where's the journey there?

• 31:02Speaker 01

  So I...

• 31:03Speaker 03

  Where's the journey there? I just like watching the animals. At what point? I don't, I don't understand how suddenly I'm on his owner's OnlyFans.

• 31:11Speaker 01

  So hang on a second. Mark is riding on OnlyFans. Don't tell me you haven't gone to Mark's. Did you subscribe to his OnlyFans?

• 31:18Speaker 03

  He's, he's on there with his wife. So no.

• 31:21Speaker 01

  Riding and stuff, riding?

• 31:23Speaker 03

  Him and his wife have a very, he's like, we have a very spicy social media presence. And he feels like this was by someone jealous or someone who resented the fact that they were making tons of cash on OnlyFans. But he said his OnlyFans took off because of his Peanut account. The way the article was phrased, it was so confusing. It kind of was suggesting that Peanut had an OnlyFans account. Cause it was like...

• 31:46Speaker 01

  Well, I would assume it was Peanut's OnlyFans account. I didn't know it was something sexual between the owners.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  Poor Peanut. I hope they weren't involving him. If I see that squirrel looking wet in goggles in a photo, I'm like, that's fucking cruel now.

• 31:58Speaker 01

  Well, your Mark now is generating these AI pictures of Peanut up in heaven and stuff to get more people to feel sorry for him. But also, the same...

• 32:08Speaker 03

  Sorry, what are the photos? But when viral appeared, he's wearing a little necklace. And I was like, you've got a jewellery collab coming out. You need to do something similar.

• 32:19Speaker 03

  Get a little farm animal and dress it up in hats and clothes and stuff. And then get it to sell your rings.

• 32:24Speaker 01

  Well, would you believe I've got a hedgehog in the kitchen right now, ready to go.

• 32:30Speaker 01

  Do you know, your man Mark, they took, I think it was a raccoon. He had a raccoon pet as well and they took the raccoon off him and killed the raccoon too.

• 32:39Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah. It does seem a bit mad, doesn't it?

• 32:44Speaker 01

  I wouldn't mind a pet squirrel now. When I was thinking about pets that I'd like to have, a hedgehog, obviously being one, I'd love to have a pet hedgehog. I'd love to have a pet squirrel, but they do look like rats if you cut their tails off. And a sugar glider's always been one for me, a bit ratty as well.

• 32:58Speaker 03

  Just don't cut their tail off, you know.

• 33:04Speaker 01

  I'll see you Thursday afternoon, P. Okay, bye. Alan Ferris, we can't give out to him, I won't see him for a couple of days. Why would you give out? Because you're interrupting our pod. The double interruption was a bit much now. I will say.

• 33:15Speaker 03

  He came back in there for an encore.

• 33:17Speaker 01

  Don't worry, I'm not going to talk to him for at least two days now. I won't talk to him the whole time I'm gone. No way.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  The Oxford Dictionary is out again. 2024 Oxford Dictionary. And the word of the year, Joanne McNally is?

• 33:36Speaker 01

  Brat.

• 33:37Speaker 03

  Brat.

• 33:38Speaker 01

  Brat.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  Brat.

• 33:42Speaker 01

  And so it's been defined as someone with a confident, independent and hedonistic attitude.

• 33:47Speaker 03

  Charlie XCX, describe brat summer as it's a pack of cigs, bit lighter, strappy top, no bra. I'm not just saying this, I've been bratting for years.

• 33:57Speaker 01

  What with the no bra, yeah, true.

• 33:59Speaker 03

  No bra, cigarettes, feral attitude. Me and Garode were having a heated debate because he was saying if he was a woman, he'd be brat. And I was like, Garode?

• 34:07Speaker 01

  No, he wouldn't.

• 34:09Speaker 03

  If you're a woman, you'd be wearing 12 bras. You'd be fucking wearing bras the whole time. You'd be appropriately dressed all the time. You don't even smoke. I was like, you don't even smoke.

• 34:19Speaker 01

  You loser, Gero. God's sake. Get some tar in those lungs.

• 34:26Speaker 03

  Chariak's yak, she's bringing smoking back. Fair play to her.

• 34:29Speaker 01

  No, I have to, like, I'm sorry, and when I drink, I'm not gonna lie, when I drink, I have, I have a piece of it.

• 34:35Speaker 03

  A little smoke.

• 34:35Speaker 01

  But smoking, smoking is absolutely disgusting. Like, when I walk by someone at seven in the morning and they're blowing smoke in my face, I'm like, oh. So disgusting.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  They're calling them cig fluencers. They were, they were smoking back on the catwalks and all, like, it's back, they're not, they don't taste like watermelon candy floss gum. And they can vape anywhere they want, whereas smoking, they are limited to where they can smoke.

• 35:00Speaker 01

  You can't, yeah, but you don't wanna smoke as much as you wanna vape, you can have the vape hanging out of your mouth the whole time. I'm still not vaping, by the way, but yes, I do miss Blue Razors, but I don't think about them. But I think that when people vape,

• 35:12Speaker 01

  you can't, you can't stop yourself, it's non-stop, it's as soon as you open your eyes. I have fallen asleep with a vape in my hand, like, not acceptable.

• 35:20Speaker 03

  The point is, bras are out, cigs are in.

• 35:24Speaker 01

  I have to be honest, I've got a, I can't get on board with the bra thing, they give me a bit, if I've no bra on, I've got no tits. So I'm sorry, I have to keep the padded bras on. And another word, bed rotting, in the dictionary.

• 35:38Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, again, I've been doing that for years, yeah, yeah.

• 35:42Speaker 01

  So the practice of spending many hours in bed during the day, often with snacks or an electronic device, as a voluntary retreat from activity or stress, now that it's in the dictionary, it feels like more acceptable.

• 35:53Speaker 03

  I call it relaxing, I don't know, like, it's just, it's just napping, self-care, but now they're calling it rotting, I don't know.

• 36:04Speaker 03

  I'm on my way to Cork, Cork. You're going to Cork right now? I'm going to Cork, yeah, packing up my bits and bobs, leaving the girls here, and I'm going to Cork. I'm opening their new Boots Beauty Shop, me and Davina.

• 36:17Speaker 01

  Oh, you and Davina, oh, Cork doesn't know what's going on. Get ready, Cork.

• 36:26Speaker 01

  That's gonna be so, I'm so glad I'm not there. Oh god.

• 36:29Speaker 03

  Me and Davina in the Montenotte for 24 hours.

• 36:32Speaker 01

  Oh, I love the Montenotte.

• 36:36Speaker 03

  But they're, so they're, so this boots is all just beauty, right? And, um.

• 36:41Speaker 01

  Don't bring your cards.

• 36:42Speaker 03

  Well, do you know what I was gonna bring? You know, one of those, um, you know, the granny trolleys, the tartan things with the wheels? And just do like a supermarket sweep on the place and be like.

• 36:50Speaker 01

  You'll, you won't believe what they have in there. The, the new boots are like on, they are full. They're like better than Sephora. They have absolutely everything. If you don't do a post for Bear by Vogue, I will, I will come to Cork. And I will, I'll make you go to bed. That's what I'll do.

• 37:10Speaker 01

  You're not going out with Davina now. That's it. Go to bed.

• 37:14Speaker 03

  Grab the wines out of our hands and send us to bed, like bowels children.

• 37:19Speaker 01

  Of course I'll do a post for Bear by Vogue. I'll, I'll, I'll insert myself in the stand. I'll put, I'll have a tube out, uh, what are they? A bottle out my mouth, two bottles out my ears.

• 37:29Speaker 03

  Go push all the other tan over, not ours though. Just straighten ours up and then push everyone else's skews over.

• 37:35Speaker 01

  I will, yeah. Shit, Trape and all them.

• 37:38Speaker 03

  Who?

• 37:42Speaker 03

  Anyway, so next time you see you'll be, I'll be covered in makeup and covered in hair products, dripping in them. I can't wait.

• 37:54Speaker 03

  That's our time, Vogue. Let's head off. I'm off to Cork.

• 37:58Speaker 01

  I'm off to Cornwall. My first time.

• 38:01Speaker 03

  Oh lovely. I've been there. It's very pretty.

• 38:03Speaker 01

  Have you? Yeah. What were you doing there?

• 38:06Speaker 03

  Couldn't tell you to be honest.

• 38:07Speaker 01

  Bye in a second, Tom. They want you out now.

• 38:11Speaker 03

  Must be doing shows there.

• 38:13Speaker 01

  I'm excited. I can't wait.

• 38:15Speaker 03

  Yeah, it's gorgeous. Really nice.