MTGM EXTRA! "Sail on Queen... That guy is a LOSER."

Vogue is keen to get to the bottom of Joanne's big day out last week... Remember; the plan was two BIG activities in one day. Wimbledon, followed by Harry Styles at Wembley. Massive. How did it go? How did she cope? What REALLY happened?! My Therapist Ghosted Me is a Global Production. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  How on earth have you not dropped that clangor before?

• 0:08Speaker 01

  You don't even like that.

• 0:09Speaker 00

  I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm just here as a pawn in a giant game. He has no respect for me. I'm out.

• 0:15Speaker 01

  This is how awful rumours start.

• 0:24Speaker 00

  I'm getting pumped up for Gigi's birthday party, so I'm pre-drinking.

• 0:30Speaker 01

  Imagine you arrived at Gigi's birthday. Absolutely.

• 0:35Speaker 00

  I've seen that. Do you know, I need to go up and do one of those fun, you know, when the cool aunt, the child-free aunt arrives and she's just chain-smoking on the slide with the kids. That's what I need to do.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  That'll be you, yeah. I'll get you a super soaker, will I?

• 0:50Speaker 00

  Do you know what? I'd actually love a super soaker.

• 0:54Speaker 01

  I know you would. I know all the things that you like.

• 0:56Speaker 00

  He's outside there. A super soaker.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  I am not Irish, but even I know that that was incredibly dogged and southsided.

• 1:03Speaker 00

  Super soaker.

• 1:05Speaker 01

  Super soaker.

• 1:06Speaker 00

  I disgust myself.

• 1:09Speaker 01

  Well, you don't disgust us, but I want to know.

• 1:12Speaker 00

  How was Wimbledon?

• 1:14Speaker 01

  Couldn't get a hold of her yesterday and I thought, Jesus, do aunt stories feel very light on the Harry Styles? For such a busy girl.

• 1:23Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 1:25Speaker 01

  Maybe.

• 1:26Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 1:26Speaker 01

  Maybe Harry wasn't her thing.

• 1:32Speaker 00

  Well, Vogue, she knows full well. She likes to poke the bear. Vogue loves, I think you sexually climatise to someone saying, "You were right." I think that's, if Spencer, if he's struggling to finish up. If he's struggling and you're taking ages, if he just goes, "You were right all along," I'd say she just spasms with pleasure. Is that right?

• 1:53Speaker 02

  Yeah, are we gonna need to put parental advisory on this video? You're about to climax.

• 1:58Speaker 01

  I am prepped already. Don't worry, I'll save it for the Wang Bank later.

• 2:01Speaker 00

  That's your kink. Your kink is being told. Do you know what? "You were right all along." I should have listened. I should have listened to you.

• 2:09Speaker 01

  I'm having a big day out. I'm gonna do two, two things. Are you sure, Joanne? And then I started questioning myself. I thought, Bo, you're pregnant and you're boring and that's what's happened. You would do two things. And then I thought, I don't think I would do two things. And I know Joanne won't do two things.

• 2:25Speaker 00

  It was two, it was three things actually, because we had the pod record and then I was Wimbledon and Harry Styles. Now, obviously, that may, I sound very booked and busy. That's an unusual state of affairs. It's just the way the social calendar fell this summer. Oh, the summer. Super secret. Anyway, I obviously bailed on Harry.

• 2:45Speaker 01

  So tell us.

• 2:46Speaker 00

  And he's, and he's not, he's not, he's not replying to my texts now, so I've obviously pissed him off.

• 2:50Speaker 01

  And you've only got two more, he's got two more concerts, so.

• 2:53Speaker 00

  I, I have rescheduled. I'm going in on Saturday.

• 2:56Speaker 01

  Are you actually, sorry.

• 2:57Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 2:58Speaker 01

  Who's giving you these tickets that you're rescheduling?

• 3:00Speaker 00

  I know. Obviously, I can't, I can't. I'm taking the fifth. I'm taking the fifth. But I'm just gonna say, if you see me hanging out with Zoe Kravitz, don't be too shocked.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  Well, I will say, if she's not gonna give any evidence on how she got tickets, I can give a bit of evidence here, just for context's sake.

• 3:20Speaker 00

  Harry's a big fan of the pod, Jo, as is Zoe.

• 3:22Speaker 02

  Absolutely. So they want you there.

• 3:24Speaker 01

  Another thing I wasn't advised to.

• 3:25Speaker 02

  And I was walking out of Joanne's at 10, no, 11:30.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 3:32Speaker 02

  And I will say that the champagne was open.

• 3:35Speaker 00

  Yes, it was, because it's Wimbledon day and I'm not playing.

• 3:41Speaker 00

  If I was playing, I wouldn't.

• 3:43Speaker 02

  It was hot.

• 3:44Speaker 00

  Yeah, Jo, it's hot.

• 3:45Speaker 02

  Dreadfully hot.

• 3:46Speaker 01

  It was hot. She was really hot. She was trying to hydrate.

• 3:51Speaker 00

  I was due to play and I said, you know what, CBA, couldn't be arsed. I might play next year. But this year, I'm just gonna have champagne and hang around and dilly-dally and just be one of those really annoying people who everyone's like, you don't even know who's playing.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Did you stay till the end?

• 4:09Speaker 00

  I think I did, actually.

• 4:12Speaker 02

  Were people still playing tennis when you left?

• 4:15Speaker 00

  I think they were.

• 4:17Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 4:17Speaker 00

  There was definitely some tennis happening at Wimbledon, that I can confirm.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  Okay, you have to, you have to tell us the truth. How much tennis did you watch?

• 4:24Speaker 00

  I'm very, I'm very aware of not riling people because I'm also very aware that we are very lucky that we do get tickets to stuff like this. And I'm also aware that there's people queuing and selling organs to get in. So a- a- as funny as I think it is to sound very flippant about it, I did also go and watch the tennis. Just in case anyone thinks I just sat on the lawn getting deranged all day, I didn't. I also saw some sport.

• 4:50Speaker 01

  Well, it's nice, it's nice of you to say that, but like, I don't think any one of our listeners or myself or Jo believe you, but it's nice that you would say that.

• 4:58Speaker 00

  What? What are you talking about? Of course, man, now, I know I'm lazy, but I'm not that bad.

• 5:02Speaker 01

  Ah, I just, Joanne, it just doesn't feel very Joanne.

• 5:07Speaker 00

  Thank you for Emirates for inviting me in.

• 5:09Speaker 01

  Do they have the caviar? Do they have that?

• 5:13Speaker 01

  They did, did they? It looks like they did. You don't even like that.

• 5:17Speaker 00

  I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I know I don't deserve it, but I'm, I'm certainly not going to turn it down.

• 5:24Speaker 01

  I think he shows it, Joanne.

• 5:26Speaker 00

  I know it's.

• 5:27Speaker 01

  This is what happens when you move into such a big mansion like Joanne.

• 5:30Speaker 00

  Shut up, folk. I know what you're trying to do and I won't have it.

• 5:36Speaker 01

  I can finally do it. It makes me so.

• 5:43Speaker 00

  I know what she's doing. Listen, if you want this podcast to fall apart because we have two unrelatable women, fine.

• 5:49Speaker 01

  Joanne, you had people believing I owned a helicopter at 1.2 years ago.

• 5:54Speaker 00

  I'm here. I'm keeping our legs in the ground here. Okay? Carry on with this.

• 6:01Speaker 01

  Snorting caviar in the Emirates tent.

• 6:05Speaker 00

  I'm just saying, I'm aware, I have enough self-awareness to know that if you go to Wimbledon, if you're lucky enough to be invited in, you have to go to the tennis.

• 6:16Speaker 01

  Ah, yeah, they do, but they shuttle you out. They don't let you just sit there getting pissed. They do shuttle you out and you're like, why does it... But the tennis is part of the buzz.

• 6:24Speaker 00

  I was keen to go anyway.

• 6:27Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  That's what people do when they've made a scene and they're being thrown out. They go, I was going anyway.

• 6:33Speaker 01

  Don't push your luck. She's pushing her luck.

• 6:36Speaker 00

  They've caused a scene.

• 6:39Speaker 01

  She couldn't wait.

• 6:40Speaker 00

  You can't force me to watch it. We can't actually.

• 6:43Speaker 01

  Well, I'm not, I'm not, I'm not missing a moment because Bear by Vogue are, we've got the team on the ground there next week and we've got all these Bear by Vogue tennis balls. And I'm like, sorry?

• 6:52Speaker 00

  Are you serious?

• 6:53Speaker 01

  Send me the tennis balls and I will be, I will be amongst the crowd doing Wimbledon content. I'm going to try and shove tennis balls on my heels and wear them.

• 7:04Speaker 00

  Are you, are you serious?

• 7:05Speaker 01

  Yeah, we got Bear by Vogue pink tennis balls.

• 7:08Speaker 02

  Pink? Why not brown?

• 7:11Speaker 01

  Oh, because brown doesn't look great. Come on, do you want a shitty tennis ball? Like, no one wants that.

• 7:18Speaker 02

  Sort of the point, though.

• 7:19Speaker 00

  No, he's right there. You can't fault him on that one now. As marketing, as branding goes, it should be brown.

• 7:26Speaker 02

  Are there three different tones?

• 7:28Speaker 01

  Our branding is pink, okay? And we're not doing...

• 7:31Speaker 00

  It would look like people were just hitting fecal matter across the court for the day.

• 7:37Speaker 00

  On balls, it doesn't look good, but on women, it looks great.

• 7:40Speaker 01

  I had to change my whole outfit for Wimbledon because I had this gorgeous, like, neon, you know, those Serena boot dresses? And it was so neon yellow. And Svenny was like, I love it, but at Wimbledon, you'll look like a tennis ball. And I actually had to, I was like, you're dead right. I can't wear that to Wimbledon.

• 7:56Speaker 00

  Yeah. I'll never forget, one of the funniest stories you tell me about Spencer, and we do, we do love, we do love his stories, was when, do you remember the year that he went into Wimbledon and bought the, bought the entire costume from the Wimbledon shop?

• 8:08Speaker 01

  This is how, this is how awful rumours start.

• 8:12Speaker 00

  Did he not do that?

• 8:14Speaker 01

  No.

• 8:16Speaker 00

  Spenny invited one- Was he not dressed like a ball boy? What happened? I thought that's happened.

• 8:19Speaker 01

  It's kind of along the lines, it's along the lines. Spenny basically invited one of his friends to Wimbledon and he was like, oh great, it's gonna be such a lovely day to go to. And then his friend, you know the friend.

• 8:30Speaker 00

  That was the friend, sorry, I thought it was Spencer. I just enjoyed that version more, so I just made it happen in my head.

• 8:37Speaker 01

  Well, I think it works about it. The friend went into Ralph Lauren when Ralph Lauren were like sponsoring Wimbledon. And he basically bought the Wimbledon statue, that's like the mannequin, he bought the mannequin. And Spenny was like, you can't, like, it was too late, he was, he was at Wimbledon when he saw him and he was like, please. Like, I can't go, right? This is secondhand embarrassment for me that I'm going around with you, like, you're dressed in their uniform. How did nobody tell you? I think the people in Ralph Lauren were like.

• 9:06Speaker 00

  Well, someone has to wear, why are they selling it? Who, who's buying it?

• 9:10Speaker 01

  I don't know, I don't know. I mean, and it wouldn't have been cheap in there. I was waiting for cast offs, I'll get the cast offs.

• 9:17Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah.

• 9:19Speaker 01

  Anyway, I'm glad you had a good day and I did think, I did feel Harry Styles was too much. I meant to go to Harry Styles today, I already turned down my ticket and it was with a friend of mine and to say I deeply regret it and he's texting me and he's like, oh, I'm gonna send you pictures later and I'm like, don't, because I will block you. I'll block you.

• 9:36Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, the, the party of people that went.

• 9:41Speaker 01

  They looked like a crack.

• 9:41Speaker 00

  When I lost the stamina in the day, said it was absolutely brilliant.

• 9:45Speaker 01

  I'm trying to think who in that party is getting you a ticket, let me see.

• 9:49Speaker 00

  I missed out, whatever, I, I, I've rescheduled and I understand how I am lucky, I don't want to sound like a spoilt bitch, but obviously with someone, obviously.

• 9:57Speaker 01

  What time did you-

• 9:58Speaker 00

  You're gonna take them.

• 9:59Speaker 01

  I mean, we want to know, what time did you say, oh, no, couldn't, can't?

• 10:02Speaker 02

  Was it obvious? When did you know that the steam was running?

• 10:04Speaker 01

  Let's guess, let's play guessing game, don't tell us. Oh, 2.30, 2.30.

• 10:10Speaker 00

  Well, the day was, it was an early start and we wanted to be in for Shania. And also, obviously with the crowds and the queues and stuff, so the arrangement was to meet

• 10:22Speaker 00

  in, in, around the Wembley area at 5. Which is quite early, really, yeah.

• 10:28Speaker 01

  You have to like that.

• 10:28Speaker 02

  You were planning to work in a nap as well, weren't you?

• 10:30Speaker 00

  Well, I mean, once I realised the napping wasn't, yeah, I know, it was, I, I had unrealistic expectations of the day, okay? I held my hands up and say, I, I mis, I misread the day.

• 10:41Speaker 01

  Joe, guess your time, Joe, guess your time.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  I think, so she was.

• 10:47Speaker 01

  I'll check my phone.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  Thirty, I think she was at Wimbledon at one, I think by half past one, I think she'd.

• 10:52Speaker 01

  You think half one, she already called it at half one, no.

• 10:55Speaker 02

  Because I think she got there and someone told her five o'clock and she went.

• 10:59Speaker 01

  Okay, listeners, get your time in your heads, get your time in your heads, when did she pull it?

• 11:03Speaker 00

  Oh.

• 11:05Speaker 01

  It was bad, no.

• 11:06Speaker 00

  I don't know, I don't know how, I don't know if this makes me, I don't know how bad this makes me look, I'm, I'm, I'm worried about reputational damage.

• 11:12Speaker 01

  It was on the way.

• 11:19Speaker 00

  I'm trying to, I'm just trying to figure out if this is in my interest to share this.

• 11:23Speaker 01

  How bad can it be, it can't be that bad, don't tell me it was midday, no.

• 11:28Speaker 00

  No, it was actually, I, it was, it was later than that, it was quite late, um, it was, it was around the five o'clock mark.

• 11:36Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 11:36Speaker 01

  Around the meeting mark?

• 11:38Speaker 00

  Yes.

• 11:39Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, I'm not gonna make it.

• 11:40Speaker 00

  Yeah, well, I think they were due about half, I, I think I started trying to make calls at around half four.

• 11:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 11:47Speaker 00

  I just knew, and I, and I, I'm, I'm, I'm, you know, I'm allergic to, I'm a, I'm, I, I'm a yes woman, and I hate, I hate any sort of confrontation, so I'm obviously, when I decide I can't do something, I can't make it work, I then, even though I know what I'm going to do, I then have to build myself up to saying I'm not going, and then I just feel, I feel just, I let the shame flow around my body for a solid hour and a half to two hours before I actually just bite the bullet and make the call, it's awful.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  John McNally, you're not a, you're, you are not a yes person, what you are is a person who's not late, is what I will say.

• 12:19Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 12:19Speaker 01

  And everyone I say that to is like, I don't believe that, and I'm like, no, I swear to God, she's never late.

• 12:23Speaker 00

  Very punctual.

• 12:24Speaker 01

  Very punctual.

• 12:25Speaker 00

  One of my strangest traits.

• 12:27Speaker 01

  I don't want, I'm not showing off, but I feel like when we talk about Harry Styles, I should probably bring up that time he spoke about me in an interview.

• 12:34Speaker 00

  What?

• 12:35Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 12:36Speaker 00

  Are you sure he wasn't saying about talking to the magazine?

• 12:39Speaker 01

  No, no, John, actually, he was referring to my ex-husband's current partner, and that wasn't me at the time.

• 12:47Speaker 01

  Mm hmm.

• 12:48Speaker 00

  And they asked.

• 12:50Speaker 01

  In the magazine, they asked him who he would like to go on a date with. And he said my ex-husband's name, he said her, his girlfriend, and it was me.

• 13:00Speaker 00

  Are you actually taking the piss?

• 13:02Speaker 01

  Yeah, so I feel like.

• 13:03Speaker 00

  No, so you just said, yes, you are taking the piss or?

• 13:05Speaker 01

  No, I'm not taking the piss.

• 13:06Speaker 00

  Well, he said, yes, which was confusing.

• 13:08Speaker 01

  So what I'm saying is Harry Styles is madly in love with me.

• 13:11Speaker 00

  Sorry, so how on earth have you not dropped that clanger before?

• 13:16Speaker 01

  I'm sure I have. I'm sure I've brought it up quite a few times.

• 13:20Speaker 00

  Never in my life.

• 13:21Speaker 01

  You've never heard that, Joe?

• 13:22Speaker 00

  No.

• 13:23Speaker 02

  Is that in print?

• 13:25Speaker 01

  It was in print, yeah. Are you looking it up?

• 13:26Speaker 02

  Calling you a liar, I'm not, but I'm saying.

• 13:28Speaker 01

  Look, don't you dare.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  If it was out there, we'd be able to find it.

• 13:31Speaker 00

  But you do have, you do have, you do have a habit of, um.

• 13:36Speaker 01

  I don't lie about people saying nice things about me.

• 13:40Speaker 02

  Are you embellishing?

• 13:42Speaker 00

  Joe, can you have a?

• 13:42Speaker 01

  Didn't embellish it at all. I had to bring him up my ex-husband. He didn't even know my actual name. He just knew I existed. That's all I need from Harry.

• 13:50Speaker 02

  I have just asked ChatGPT and it says it doesn't have any record of Harry Styles ever having mentioned you.

• 13:56Speaker 00

  Well, by name.

• 13:57Speaker 01

  He doesn't mention me by name. I told you.

• 13:59Speaker 02

  Fine.

• 14:00Speaker 00

  Well, listen, I'm gonna get my internet sleuthing.

• 14:02Speaker 01

  Dare you, Joe, trying to take us away from me.

• 14:04Speaker 00

  Well.

• 14:05Speaker 02

  We've got to fact check. It's my job, like.

• 14:07Speaker 00

  So folks, sometimes you'll tell a story and then when we're, when the joke comes to a natural end, you'll just keep going. And then we, we get really confused as to whether it's a true story or not.

• 14:18Speaker 00

  And you just keep saying it's true and it's clearly not true. And then me and Joe get really confused.

• 14:23Speaker 01

  No, you know me, I never, I never.

• 14:26Speaker 00

  To try and figure out what's happening. So.

• 14:28Speaker 01

  As much as you're never late, I never lie. I can't do it.

• 14:32Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 14:33Speaker 01

  I don't lie.

• 14:34Speaker 00

  Everyone lies, everyone lies.

• 14:36Speaker 01

  I, I would say I lie probably the least of everybody. I'm terr- I can't, I can't even like, I can't even like, break rules. I just, there's just this annoying thing in me that I just can't do it. Anyway.

• 14:48Speaker 00

  I think you should be really careful saying this out loud because the people who are into Harry Styles, anyone he fancies, they try to assassinate.

• 14:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 14:56Speaker 00

  So I would keep this in. Information, well, on the podcast.

• 14:59Speaker 01

  Are they still at that, though? Do they not like his new, his new, his fiance?

• 15:04Speaker 00

  I think maybe the Harry Styles, his audience have grown up with him and they're not quite as fanatically mad as maybe people were at the start. They've kind of gotten a bit used to him now.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, they probably know that like there are chances that Harry are, are, are low.

• 15:18Speaker 00

  Well, when I, when I, when I meet Harry on Saturday, I'll, I'll tell him.

• 15:21Speaker 01

  Tell him that I'm married.

• 15:22Speaker 00

  Like, I think you know who I am.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  But willing.

• 15:24Speaker 00

  You're obsessed with my podcast, so I've forgotten.

• 15:30Speaker 00

  Sorry, Zoe. This is awkward for all of us.

• 15:32Speaker 01

  Zoe, I know you're standing right there.

• 15:33Speaker 00

  He said what he said. He said what he said.

• 15:35Speaker 01

  He's harbored those feelings for many years. Many, many years.

• 15:40Speaker 02

  Those words were binding.

• 15:42Speaker 01

  Yeah, they were, well, they were for me. They were for me. And if I have to get rid of Spennow, I will.

• 15:48Speaker 00

  I'm thrilled for you. I, I just, I, I, I'm in awe of the amount of male attention you get publicly. I had a DM from a guy last week who was a, a teacher from Leash. Now, I'm not saying there's anything wrong with that.

• 16:02Speaker 01

  John, we're talking like, we're talking, this is like 12 years ago. This is before I had the four kids.

• 16:07Speaker 00

  Doesn't matter.

• 16:08Speaker 01

  Ruined me.

• 16:09Speaker 00

  Doesn't matter. Doesn't matter.

• 16:11Speaker 01

  Well, I can collect all these things.

• 16:12Speaker 00

  Yeah. You have that in your arsenal.

• 16:14Speaker 01

  Fine, I'm in.

• 16:16Speaker 00

  FYI, Friday the 17th of July, I'm gonna be in Exeter.

• 16:20Speaker 01

  Jesus, that's a random one.

• 16:22Speaker 00

  Powderham Castle. Wow. Stunning. Powderham Castle, Friday the 17th. If anyone's swinging around that area with their, with a bit of free time, pop in. I'll be there. Doing jokes. Let's have an email.

• 16:40Speaker 01

  I love the pod and all the advice. Have never been motivated to write in before, but I was screaming, crying, kicking my feet during the advice to the girl who blocked the loser Michael Jackson Farage lover. I know it's technically mean to run out on someone who blocked them, but oh my God, these men, if the roles were reversed, I would absolutely not hesitate to do whatever they wanted in this situation without a care in the world or a millisecond of thought as to how the other person might feel.

• 17:08Speaker 00

  Really?

• 17:09Speaker 01

  Okay, I can understand that, but also two wrongs don't make a right. Men are so used to having their feelings be thought of as a default that I think it's a brave and genre-changing dynamic to just nope out on them. Look at all those losers love bombing women and then ghosting them. Ahem, Katie Price, justice for Joanne. Anyway. Love you and always agree with the nuance takes, but in this situation, say long queen, that guy is a loser. He lost, good riddance, no regrets, as they say.

• 17:41Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 17:42Speaker 01

  P.S. Joanne, I have my tickets for two of your three nights in San Francisco. Rest assured, I'm counting the days, spreading the word, firing the town, stocking up in the pino.

• 17:50Speaker 00

  Thank you.

• 17:51Speaker 01

  Et cetera.

• 17:52Speaker 00

  Thank you so much. So because she's bought tickets, I'm just gonna say I agree with everything she says. I take it all back, I apologize.

• 17:59Speaker 01

  Because I have just said that I love following rules and I don't lie and stuff to people, I would disagree. I don't think that like if someone, if you think there's a possibility of someone being a dick to you, you should be a dick to them. I think that just to be kind of, like, I think just a general level of sameness amongst us all could, could take us a long way.

• 18:19Speaker 00

  I just know, I know myself, I am quite a porous person. I'm porous, so I take on things, as we all do. I mean, like, I'm not saying this is anything unique about me, but I am porous and I probably am too sympathetic to sometimes the male plight. If I'm with a guy, I can kind of be a bit too, too, too sound, actually, I think, certain, certain occasions coming to mind there. And I just know myself, I wouldn't, I wouldn't walk out of the door, that's all I can say. Unless it was like, unless I was like at the bar asking for Angelo, because I was like, this guy's an absolute nut job. But like, with just a difference of opinion like that, I don't, I wouldn't.

• 18:58Speaker 01

  If we could all, and I know not everybody does it, but if we could all just have a general, yeah, if we could all just stop.

• 19:04Speaker 00

  All right, John Lennon, yeah.

• 19:06Speaker 01

  Stop fighting.

• 19:07Speaker 00

  Yoko Ono over there.

• 19:10Speaker 01

  Do you know what, I think when I got ghosted that time, like it really fucked me off so much that I was like, I'll never do that to somebody. Like, because I remember how shit I felt and for how long I felt shit. And I was like, for something as simple as to just say, don't wanna be with you anymore, instead of just disappearing and making someone feel like shit for that long, I just, I just would never do, I just wouldn't want to be the cause of making someone feel like that.

• 19:35Speaker 00

  I went, yeah, I understand. We are all a product of our own experiences. I, well, I was in a relationship ages ago and it ended really badly and he was like, please don't, just please don't block me. And I would have been well within my rights to block him. But I didn't because I felt, I felt bad for him, which I'm like, Joanne, hop on. But I didn't. Because I, because I thought that happened to me and then I, I knew how hard it was to get over it. So I just wouldn't do it. Anyway, look, maybe we're just, maybe we've just turned into two male apologists who go to Wimbledon.

• 20:08Speaker 00

  I don't know.

• 20:09Speaker 01

  We certainly don't go to Harry Styles.

• 20:12Speaker 00

  Words ourselves. And I know when he was obsessed with you, I would have contacted him directly for tickets.

• 20:18Speaker 01

  I have. He's actually doing a matinee just for me on the Saturday morning, yes.

• 20:23Speaker 00

  He's going to, he's performing at Gigi's birthday party. Yeah, how did you know?

• 20:27Speaker 01

  I guess.

• 20:28Speaker 00

  Don't start telling everyone those movies shown up.

• 20:32Speaker 01

  He told me.

• 20:32Speaker 00

  We're thick as thieves.