MTGM EXTRA! "My husband went pale..."

Money is funny... Joanne is right. Money can make people behave quite oddly and this weeks email has plenty of that behaviour. Plus, Vogue looks different, but why and what's the diagnosis on Joanne's hair? Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com Vogue's Book Tour: www.fane.co.uk/vogue-williams If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:10Speaker 01

  Welcome to Both Hearts Gals To Me with myself, Joanne McNally and Vogue Williams.

• 0:19Speaker 02

  I'm here, Joanne, in a, in a recording studio. I'm finishing off recording my book, Big Mouth.

• 0:24Speaker 01

  Is your mouth wrecked?

• 0:25Speaker 02

  I have to say, I'm not the biggest fan of myself anymore. There has been, I have, because obviously I've edited it. So I've, this is maybe my fourth time reading and I'm like, I hate you. I hate you.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  I, I remember doing a lot of VO for the, the investigate, you know, the Joanne Investigate series, the Avalon, the Furby one. And you, you kind of, it's like when you, it's like when you overthink walking and then you just fall down. If you, it's when you speak so much, you kind of forget how to pronounce words because you're so, you're so focused on how you sound. And it kind of, it's discombobulation. So I feel you.

• 1:02Speaker 02

  I kind of get that with breathing sometimes. You know, if you start thinking about breathing, you're like.

• 1:09Speaker 01

  I think that's less normal. That's why, that's why it's best, the less we think, the better, Vogue. We've always had that. Less thinking out of us.

• 1:17Speaker 02

  We start breaking when we think.

• 1:18Speaker 01

  Yeah, let's not think about anything. Okay. Let's just move forward. Just keep going forward. No thinking.

• 1:24Speaker 02

  Do you notice anything different about me?

• 1:29Speaker 01

  Okay. Your forehead's a little tight.

• 1:31Speaker 02

  I'm literally showing you my teeth like a, like a horse. It's obviously my teeth.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  It's no difference. You always look like that.

• 1:38Speaker 02

  I did those. No, they do not. I did those. I saw somebody yesterday and I was like, oh my God, their teeth are so white. So I took myself home. I have these whitening trays and then my teeth are really sore today, but I'm like, I don't care. They're white.

• 1:48Speaker 01

  Oh, but the pain, like I, I left my trays on for too long. I did some whitening before. And I had a photo shoot the next day. It was like a press call thing and none of the photos went anywhere because I wouldn't know, I couldn't open my mouth. Because it was like, it's like the wind whistling through your teeth. They're so sensitive. It's, oh, it's horrible.

• 2:09Speaker 02

  Even the wind was getting in. Yeah, I was on my bike and I was like, oh my god, I could the bike's shut.

• 2:15Speaker 01

  I use those Crest whitening strips that I buy in the States. They're fantastic. And a dentist recommended them to me, so they can't be that bad.

• 2:22Speaker 02

  I know. I'm sure we're whitening our eyeballs and everything. We go to the States to just whiten everything.

• 2:26Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 2:27Speaker 02

  What you have to tell me?

• 2:28Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 2:31Speaker 01

  I've, I've loads of news.

• 2:33Speaker 02

  I spoke to you, literally. When did we speak to you? Two days ago.

• 2:36Speaker 01

  Yeah, but I save bits. I save bits.

• 2:39Speaker 02

  You little snake.

• 2:41Speaker 01

  I've been very busy.

• 2:43Speaker 02

  Have you?

• 2:43Speaker 01

  Going about town. I've been very busy. I've had several important appointments. The main news is I ha- I, and I, I was worried about this for a while. I had my concerns. It has been officially diagnosed from a professional. I am going bald. I am. Yeah, yeah, you can laugh.

• 3:03Speaker 02

  I thought you was gonna say, you are, I, I just, okay, I'll let you finish.

• 3:07Speaker 01

  I've gone, I've been to a scalp dermatologist.

• 3:12Speaker 02

  See, I think I love you so much that even if you literally had a bald patch and the toe top of your head was bald, like Friar Tuck, I'd still say, you're not.

• 3:20Speaker 01

  Yeah. And thank you. And I, I really appreciate the support. But I think we all know, I am suffering from early female patterned baldness. I went to, so I've been given out about the front, my hairline for ages. And there's the Montreal Clinic in London. I don't know if you've been in there. Fucking stunning. Anyway, they very kindly were like, do you want to come in and we'll have a look at you? My hair has not recovered. Now, I have a lot of hair. I've always had a big head of hair. My biological father had what can only be described as kind of a Roscommon Afroey. Huge hair. And, but the front, the front of the thing, now, I've had, I've been bleaching it. And you know the way you heat and you curl it and all this stuff? And, and I had the slag strips and they were.

• 4:04Speaker 01

  Snapping off, but there's been no regrowth. So the, the, you're, so this woman is a sculptor, she's like one of the best in the business. Her whole thing is hair loss, obviously. And hair is her thing. And I was kind of embarrassed going in because I was like, oh, she's going to just think I'm being vain. But I am, but like that hair is really important. Everyone wants a good head of hair, don't they? Anyway, she went in, she goes, she was, she pulled my hair back. We did before photos, she had a look, she goes, yeah, yeah. You are suffering from early female patterned baldness. Now, yes, now I'm sick in the head. Finally, I'm diagnosed as I can work with. Yeah. So, so I'm going to start.

• 4:46Speaker 02

  Hang on, what kind of tablets? What tablets are they giving you? Why have you gone for this? You must be getting something out of it.

• 4:53Speaker 01

  Well, what she said, I'm, I was like, look, how do I end up not looking like Walton? How do I end up not looking like Walter Goggins? What's his name from White House?

• 5:01Speaker 02

  Walton Goggins, and he's very in fashion, Joanne, so actually you're fashionable, ahead of the curve as always.

• 5:06Speaker 01

  I'm not, I'm not doing a Goggins on it. I'm not doing a Goggins on it. Jo, I don't need your patronizing mansplaining chat from a man with more hair than a llama farm.

• 5:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, Jo, in fairness, Jo, get off your ivory tower there.

• 5:21Speaker 01

  He was trying to be supportive and I understand that, thank you, Jo. I'm not going Goggins on it. So I was like, what am I going to do? I have, my forehead is starting to look like a six head, seven head. It's getting, my forehead's getting progressively bigger and I'd, imagine how much extra Botox I'm going to need. I'm not paying for that. So I'd rather pay.

• 5:37Speaker 02

  Imagine the next foundation and everything, there's a lot of costs to consider here.

• 5:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll have to do a full blown collab with Charlotte Chilbury to afford it all.

• 5:47Speaker 01

  Anyway, we talked about, she was like, there's tablets you can take, but the tablets aren't localised. So you end up getting hair everywhere. So do you know what she actually recommended? Now I'm going to, I'm trying a couple of things with her. She said regain, she said it's really, really good. And she said you have to be really patient because hair growth takes a long time. And she said, usually people just give up and that's why they don't see results. But Regain, and she said, the men's one, because they kind of try and trick women into thinking they need their special one, she said, the men's one's perfect, just start putting Regain on. And she said, you will see results. Isn't that massive, is there? I'm on the Regain, like Aiden from Sex and the City.

• 6:20Speaker 02

  I'll tell you what, has she not told you about Finestrite?

• 6:23Speaker 01

  No, what's that?

• 6:24Speaker 02

  I'm not on Finestrite, but men, a lot of men that I know are on Finestrite. And it's basically, yeah, like, and you see a huge amount, like, Joe would have, like, you wouldn't even see Joe's eyes or anything, his hair would just grow everywhere. It's really good, but I don't know if it's just for men, but I don't know why it would just be for men.

• 6:40Speaker 01

  See, I, yeah, well, there is a, there is stuff about hormones and stuff. She was saying there's certain stuff you can take for hair growth, but if you get pregnant or you're trying, you know, you kind of have to come off it. Or the baby, I guess, will be covered in hair. Um.

• 6:52Speaker 02

  I thought you could get, like, I know somebody, a girl that, a makeup artist, I know Christina, got this stuff, like, PRP, I think it was called, where she got like little rollers in her head and they, they like put stuff in it.

• 7:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, so we just, we discussed all those options, all those options. But now I have a scalp dermatologist. And we're going to stop getting any more receding and maybe even grow some of it back.

• 7:16Speaker 02

  Well, that's nice, you know, because like, losing your hair isn't, it happens after pregnancies as well. Like, I would literally have these huge bald patches. But I know you don't see it in my hair, but I, like, I get my hair coloured in with eyeshadow and I do shoots and stuff like that, because some of it is just really, really light. And that's from when I had kids and lost it and never came back. I think it happens to women a lot. And do you know what, Joanne? Thanks for shining a light on this and making us all feel okay.

• 7:41Speaker 01

  Don't say shiny, it's triggering. Look at that, look how shiny it is.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  Did you run out of powder when you were doing your makeup today?

• 7:49Speaker 01

  How dare you bring up the shining folk. Please, some sensitivity.

• 8:00Speaker 02

  A guy that I know was talking to his, his wife, and like, he was like, he was talking, they were just talking about stuff, and he was like, why, do you think I should go to Turkey? And then she was like, yeah. And he was like, oh my, oh my God, like, she's like, would you think my, my hair is that bad? And she was like, what? He's like, but like, do you think that I need it that bad, that you think I need to go to Turkey? And she goes, oh no, sorry, I thought you said therapy.

• 8:25Speaker 01

  Love it.

• 8:32Speaker 01

  It's like one of those TikTok trends when, you know, those trends, they're saying probably should have just gone to therapy, but they're doing something insane instead. So you come back with a full head of hair and a full set of turkey teeth. It's the teeth for me. Oh, but I, I, Dr. Leila Aspor is her name.

• 8:45Speaker 02

  Oh, I thought it was named Leila.

• 8:47Speaker 01

  Leila. Yeah, it's nice. Yeah.

• 8:48Speaker 02

  What's that song? There's a song with Leila in it that I love. Leila.

• 8:51Speaker 01

  It's called Leila.

• 8:52Speaker 02

  Oh, Leila. It's, what's his name? Eric Clapton?

• 8:55Speaker 01

  Eric Clapton.

• 8:55Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 8:56Speaker 01

  Have you been diagnosed for ADHD yet?

• 9:00Speaker 01

  Just a thought.

• 9:02Speaker 01

  Just a wreck. Just a wreck out.

• 9:04Speaker 02

  My therapist, I told you, my therapist has sent me somebody. Obviously I haven't got around to it because he was like, do you think we should talk about it now? And I was like, what? And he was like, about like the way you are. I was like, what do you mean? And he was like, I think that you need to have a test. I told you that. I'm gonna do it. I will do it.

• 9:18Speaker 01

  Jump, jump, pop, pop, pop.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  Joanna's still, Joanna's on her, she's on her tirade of abusing Lime Bikes. She sent me a video on Instagram of this girl crashing her Lime Bike into, that looked painful. Crashing her Lime Bike into a bus. It's not the Lime Bike's fault.

• 9:38Speaker 01

  I was like, see? Another one.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  Yeah, I do remember you used to cycle. Remember? You need to get a bike.

• 9:48Speaker 01

  I'm in, I am, I'm gonna get a bike. I am gonna get a bike. It's my, it's my, it's my aim for this summer. Do you find, do people send you on Insta updates on your ex-boyfriends?

• 9:59Speaker 02

  Yeah, including my family members. They all send me stuff and they send it into our family, my siblings. We have a sibling group and they send videos of exes. I'm like, guys, stop doing this.

• 10:08Speaker 01

  Yeah. Well, someone on Insta sent me what I thought was a photo of a guy that I used to go out with of it on Insta. I don't know why she was sending it to me. I don't know why. I think she just thought I needed to see that he was, what he was up to. But I clicked it and it was his Insta story.

• 10:25Speaker 02

  Oh, no. Oh, God.

• 10:31Speaker 01

  So now, having been no contact for however, whatever length of time, I've now randomly watched one of his stories because a woman called Ethan Instagram. Screwed me over.

• 10:43Speaker 02

  He's gonna be telling everyone, "I look, I told you she come crawling back. Here she is."

• 10:47Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 10:48Speaker 02

  This is the start of it.

• 10:49Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah. Look at her. She's keeping a tight eye. I was like, "Eva, I can't believe you just did that." She was like, "Oh, sorry."

• 11:03Speaker 03

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• 11:40Speaker 02

  Okay. Hi, Joanna Vog, long time listener, first time emailer. I didn't think I'd ever be writing in for advice with desperate times and all that. Myself...

• 11:50Speaker 02

  You must be really desperate. Are we the last people on earth?

• 11:58Speaker 02

  I'm not just, I'm not being bad, but I think you drag me down, Joanne. I think I give quite sound advice and I think that you drag me down.

• 12:04Speaker 03

  Is that right?

• 12:05Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 12:06Speaker 01

  I feel our advice is balanced and...

• 12:09Speaker 02

  I feel you drag me down.

• 12:10Speaker 01

  And ill informed.

• 12:12Speaker 03

  Equally.

• 12:13Speaker 01

  But here we go.

• 12:15Speaker 02

  Eat it, Jo. I'm not as bad as Joanne.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  Desperate times and all that.

• 12:20Speaker 02

  Here we are. Joanne and I hear the word desperate and you'll just see us bowling through the door.

• 12:25Speaker 01

  We love it.

• 12:25Speaker 02

  We're here.

• 12:26Speaker 01

  It's our, it's our business strategy.

• 12:29Speaker 02

  Myself and my husband have been married for six years, together for 10, and we have two children. In the last two years, I've made good progress in my career and hence my wages have increased significantly. Well done to you. My husband has a good job, but his salary has been the same for the last several years. Either way, we both have a very comfortable life, lovely home, and our kids have all they need and more.

• 12:51Speaker 01

  Lovely.

• 12:52Speaker 02

  We have separate bank accounts. Essential. I don't think I'd, I have a joint, but I wouldn't, I have to have my own. And use our joint account for all our bills and joint expenses, which we split fifty fifty. However, I would like to add that I happily pay for family holidays twice a year and almost everything the children need. Clothing, school supplies, activities, et cetera. We never know exactly what the other person gets paid, spends every month as our wages are paid into our personal accounts. It's never been an issue before. Recently, oh, it's gonna get good now. It's the recently.

• 13:29Speaker 01

  Lean in.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  Oh, good god. Recently, we had a meeting with a financial advisor.

• 13:36Speaker 02

  During this meeting, the advisor redid both of our salaries, mine being about ten thousand pounds more annually than his, plus overtime benefits. My husband actually went pale and instantly disengaged from the meeting. Afterwards, he became so.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  Sorry, sorry. So ten grand?

• 13:53Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:54Speaker 01

  That's, that's not, that's not, that's, that's not a huge amount at all, really. As a difference in salary and she's paying for all the holidays and all?

• 14:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, and it's plus, she, she'll get, yeah.

• 14:05Speaker 01

  Okay.

• 14:06Speaker 02

  Okay.

• 14:06Speaker 01

  Carry on.

• 14:07Speaker 02

  And it might be, anyway, okay, fine. Afterwards, he became so angry and a big fight ensued. He states that I am not a team player because I have been hiding my money from him. He believes he has been lied to. He also believes that I have been hiding this information in order to grow a nest egg to have for when I divorce him.

• 14:29Speaker 01

  Wow, that is quite the leap. That's escalating.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Wow. That's just, it feels taking his anger out on you and some men aren't able, some men don't like if their partner earns more money than them.

• 14:42Speaker 01

  Most men don't like if their partner earns more money than them. I would say this is all alpha shit. Carry on, Vogue.

• 14:48Speaker 02

  Also, I don't know what Spencer earns every year and he doesn't know what I earn every year.

• 14:52Speaker 01

  Actually, sorry, I take it back. Men don't mind if their partner... Sorry, I need to process my thoughts. Continue reading.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  Okay. He also argued that my salary has not benefited our family as much as it should have. And if he had my salary, we would be far better off because I'm too selfish.

• 15:12Speaker 01

  Hold on a second. Is she on a hundred grand more than him?

• 15:15Speaker 02

  It's 10. It's 10. It's 10.

• 15:19Speaker 01

  This is insane.

• 15:20Speaker 02

  He has said now that I shall be paying more of the bills, that 50/50 is no longer fair. Ladies, please, what do I do? I've always been hyper-independent, which includes my finances, and I truly believe I work hard and give my family a nice life. Is he right? Should I be transparent with my earnings and spendings? Should I be paying for more? You already are paying for more.

• 15:43Speaker 01

  Did she not say that she's paying for the family holidays?

• 15:46Speaker 02

  Yes, and the kids' clothes and the kids' activities, like, they're really expensive.

• 15:51Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 15:52Speaker 02

  Or is he projecting his insecurities and feeling emasculated? How can I make him see my point of view? It's affecting our relationship massively. What do you say, oh wise ones?

• 16:01Speaker 01

  I don't say this lightly, but I'm gonna go back to the old... Leave him.

• 16:09Speaker 02

  Joe, honestly, you put me in her box. I'm in the box with her.

• 16:14Speaker 01

  This is a leave of situation. No, okay, fine, I'm processing. Leave him. Come back maybe later in the day, but walk out.

• 16:22Speaker 02

  Honestly, I feel like he thinks he's in a position that he is allowed to say that to you and get away with it. When you should be like, if I was you, I'd write down all the additional stuff that you spend and show him on a sheet. And there it is, in black and white. I wouldn't even have a conversation with him. I would literally write it all out. I'd write out what you want to say and I'd land it in front of him. And under your breath, say, "Fuck you." And then he'll see what you pay for as extra. But like, Spencer and I, like, we try to split things mainly 50/50, but obviously sometimes people... Like, I'm going for lunch with him now, I'm not paying for that. I think that you split fifty fifty as much as you can, but like even in family households

• 17:04Speaker 02

  where it's not split fifty fifty, you work it out in a way that's fair and you've found a way that's fair where you're paying for the holidays and you're like holidays are so expensive and you're paying for the kids clothes and activities. So.

• 17:15Speaker 01

  And what's he paying for?

• 17:17Speaker 02

  Everything else like electricity and bills and all that kind of stuff, the household stuff.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  Sorry, sorry. I missed that bit. Okay, fine. I thought she was she was just taking the heavy load. Oh, I see. Okay, so this folk, you'd be probably more experienced to answer on this because you have a husband and kids and all that jazz. I'm not as experienced in this area, but I just can't get my head around the fact that, and I'm not being flippant, ten grand is of course, it's ten grand, but it's hardly worth all this. Like if I was married to a man and found out that he was on a massive salary, more than me, would I think he was hiding it? No, I wouldn't.

• 18:01Speaker 02

  Go me, go Joanne.

• 18:03Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'd be like, this is great for the family that we don't have. You should pay for everything.

• 18:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, it differs from relationship to relationship because sometimes like I would earn more than the person that I'm with and sometimes they'd earn more than me. I do remember a stage where I was going out with somebody and I literally had no money at the time, like, like nothing, kind of living from month to month. And he kind of like begrudged having to pay like where the rent where we were living, but I just didn't have anywhere near the money he had like. So I just felt like that that that felt a bit shitty because I'm like, you know what, dude, you are earning like 20 times more than I am. And in that kind of a case, it's like you should be happy to to do that and still be allowed to have your own money.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  A while back, I dated a guy who had way more money than I had. And I actually wasn't working at all at the time. I was just post madness. And he was, he was, he was, he. Was the the earner and he was very generous to me. But then what I noticed, it was actually how I noticed he was like falling out of love with me. He started getting resentful about picking up bills for things like that. Like, I think when you're mad about someone, you don't really care. Money's funny. It really gets in the way and it brings out a side of people that it mightn't be their best side. Do you know? And especially when there's a female male dynamic. I think money can be particularly tricky, which isn't helping this woman.

• 19:28Speaker 01

  I'm not answering her question really, but I just know myself from being again, the one with less money in the relationship and the one with more money in the relationship. And I'd rather be the one with more money. I have to say, I find when someone you do feel a bit, because if you're with someone who has a lot more money than you, they want to do things that fit their pockets. They want to do expensive things. They want to go to expensive restaurants. They want to enjoy their success and enjoy their cash. So then they kind of have to take you along with them and you don't have the money that they have. And you end up feeling like a bit like Oliver, do you know what I mean? Oliver Twist, you're like, oh, God.

• 20:01Speaker 02

  I know.

• 20:02Speaker 01

  And then you kind of get used to it and then you can feel that they're getting resentful. It's all very messy.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  I think, do you know what? I read somewhere years ago, I don't know if it's actually the truth now, but like years ago, Keira Knightley would pay herself a salary of like what her friends would get paid a year. So she was kind of like on the same wave. Like this, I know, but I, I, I think that, I don't think that it's necessary to do something like that. But I do think that like, if you're in a position, I think even as a friend, like if you're going out with somebody and you know that you're in a position where you have more money, like you should pick up like the bigger bills and stuff like that. And like, they can get you coffee another time. So that's kind of, but it should be like that with him. He should like, you have a family together. You are like, he thinks you're being a snake, which I find really annoying because you're going out of your way to actually make yourselves have a better life. So I think the only thing to do is write it all down so he can see it in black and white.

• 20:52Speaker 01

  I just can't, this to me sounds like this man is suffering from some sort of paranoid delusion.

• 20:56Speaker 02

  Like.

• 20:57Speaker 01

  Where, why does your brain go to that she's trying to build a nest egg to leave you? There's obviously a lot more going on in this marriage than just this. And like I say, I was expecting there to be a much bigger discrepancy there. For, his reaction, the discrepancy in salary does not warrant this wild reaction from this man. Crazy behaviour.

• 21:20Speaker 02

  And also, congrats for doing well in work.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  I don't have a husband and kids, so I don't know, I don't, I don't know how that works. But yeah, I say, you know what I say.

• 21:29Speaker 02

  And all, yeah, and also right at the end of the letter, by the way, it doesn't matter if I have a nest egg, the way the British court system works, or the Irish court system, you're gonna have to share. At the end of, if you guys divorce, it's not a nest egg, you gotta share.

• 21:42Speaker 01

  Oh, that's a good bit of advice. That's why I will never marry.

• 21:47Speaker 02

  Doesn't matter if you live with somebody for a certain period of time, same rules apply.

• 21:50Speaker 01

  That's why I will never live with someone for a certain period of time.

• 21:57Speaker 01

  I'm happy to, to leech off someone else, but I will simply not have anyone leeching off me. And that is the human contradiction. I am fallible. I am flawed.

• 22:09Speaker 02

  I am delighted for you that you are a contradiction onto yourself, and I'm a hypocrite, so.

• 22:14Speaker 01

  Between the two of us, you know.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  We're disgusting. We're disgusting. We're desperate. Two desperadoes, just living life to the full.

• 22:30Speaker 01

  Before we go, I've released a show in Dubai, October 17th.

• 22:34Speaker 02

  I loved your Dubai video.

• 22:36Speaker 01

  Thank you. Oh, sorry, October 9th, sorry, Jo. I'm, I, thank you, thank you, Bec. I'm moving into acting.

• 22:41Speaker 02

  You're moving into, I, I saw that, yeah. I was doing a bit of acting yesterday to pretend to be on a Zoom.

• 22:49Speaker 02

  And I had to, I had to...

• 22:50Speaker 01

  Hi Bafta!

• 22:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I had to be a bit angry for a while. I said, "I'm not happy here. I am not happy here." Put a big smile on my face.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  What if I wag my finger more? It's that kind of selling it.

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Otto does that now. He's like, "Don't touch my animals!" And he just wags his finger at me.

• 23:08Speaker 02

  He's still giving me absolute belts. If anyone knows how to stop your child hitting, please let me know. I'm in bits.

• 23:14Speaker 01

  Oh, I should have got him little boxing gloves for his birthday.

• 23:17Speaker 02

  That's a great... Well, you still have time. You haven't got anything for his birthday.

• 23:21Speaker 01

  Well, I just got his Christmas present, folk. I'm trying to catch up.

• 23:25Speaker 02

  Oh, I know what you're doing. You're getting the Chanel bag verified. Oh, silly me.

• 23:33Speaker 02

  Fucking Chanel bag.