Pod Insights My Therapist Ghosted Me MTGM EXTRA! "My ex still niggles at me..." About this episode How often do your exes turn up in your thoughts? Do you mind it? This weeks emailer has had about enough of it. Plus, Spencer's covert plans for Vogue's birthday and Joanne's triggering memories attached to Sage coffee machines.
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Transcript 0:02 Speaker 00 This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:10 Speaker 01 Welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Goes To Me. It's the usual crew. You know, you know who we are at this point. Yeah.
0:18 Speaker 02 And if you don't, it's Vogue's Joanna Joe. That's, that's who it is. There you go.
0:25 Speaker 01 There's wind but whistling through one of my teeth. That's not good, is it?
0:29 Speaker 02 What do you mean?
0:30 Speaker 01 No, that's not good. Joe shaking his head.
0:33 Speaker 02 What do you mean there's a wind in your teeth?
0:34 Speaker 01 Like there's, there's like, I can feel wind blowing through my, as in, there's a, there's a hole in one of my teeth.
0:39 Speaker 02 Oh God, a filling. Get a gold one.
0:45 Speaker 01 A gold filling.
0:47 Speaker 03 Whole gold tooth, just get rid of the tooth, go whole gold.
0:50 Speaker 01 Kylie, my worm, Kylie, my worm manager has a silver cap on the front of her teeth. It looks really cool. I just don't know if I can pull it off. Kylie has a whole look going on. I look like I was at a hen party and I just stuck it on.
1:02 Speaker 02 You're wearing some T-shirt today. That looks like something from what's that band Slipknot? You look like you're wearing a Slipknot T-shirt.
1:09 Speaker 01 And I am, I've, I've chosen my tattoo design. Oh my God, you're being serious about that? I'm getting a little cherub angel with cherub. You know, there's a fat little cute angels.
1:20 Speaker 03 Cherub?
1:21 Speaker 02 A cherub, a cherub with the avens.
1:25 Speaker 01 Cherub.
1:28 Speaker 02 You said a cherub.
1:30 Speaker 01 What do they call it? Cherubs. Cherubs.
1:32 Speaker 02 Maybe she means shrubs on the back of shrubs.
1:35 Speaker 01 Get in a bush. Get in a bush on my back.
1:39 Speaker 01 Cherubs.
1:40 Speaker 02 That would look good.
1:41 Speaker 01 Shrubs. Whatever they're bloody called.
1:44 Speaker 03 Cherubs, I think.
1:45 Speaker 01 Cherubs. One of those little fat girls, I love those with the gorgeous curls on and the angel wings. And she's, she has a little martini glass.
1:53 Speaker 03 Oh no.
1:54 Speaker 02 Oh, to make it more Jawansky.
1:56 Speaker 01 Okay, yeah, yeah.
1:57 Speaker 02 I like that. I just don't stand in your way anymore. Do you know what? You are who you are and I love you for it.
2:05 Speaker 01 God, I wish you were my mother.
2:08 Speaker 03 If you say no, she'll only act out more.
2:11 Speaker 01 Yeah, exactly. You have to say yes.
2:13 Speaker 02 She'll come back with face tats everywhere and I'll be like, uh oh, I shouldn't have said a word.
2:17 Speaker 01 I'm getting a silver ball put in my forehead. I'm hanging around with Kylie too much. I'm gonna start modifying.
2:25 Speaker 01 People do that.
2:26 Speaker 02 I know, and I'm sorry, but like, it can't, it, those things scare me a little bit. And I know it's not fair because everyone deserves to look the way they want. But like the, when people take out those massive earrings in their ears and they have the dangly lobes. It scares me a tiny bit. I can't help the way I feel because I'm just real like scaredy of things like that.
2:44 Speaker 01 It looks like they've been shot in the ear. It looks like they've been shot in the earlobe. Yeah, I know. Yeah. And then they have to get it kind of resized. Sometimes they let it, they leave it and sometimes they, that wouldn't be for us. We're a little too conservative for that folk.
2:56 Speaker 02 Yeah.
2:57 Speaker 01 Maybe a little, um, safety pin through the nose. Just something to kind of tide me over. Should I get over this face?
3:03 Speaker 02 I do like the idea of a nose ring. I do like that. I think that they can look chic.
3:07 Speaker 01 Oh, yeah. I love a tiny little stud in the nose.
3:11 Speaker 02 Yes.
3:11 Speaker 01 My nose is too piggish to ha, to hold a nose ring. I'd look like I was actually being sent to a slaughterhouse.
3:20 Speaker 02 Everyone has something bad to say about their nose. I don't think I've ever met anyone who's gone, I love my nose. Oh, hang on, actually, Sven? He's not there. He probably loves his nose, but he loves everything.
3:30 Speaker 01 Of course he does.
3:32 Speaker 02 He's got a 10 out of 10 nose.
3:33 Speaker 01 He probably can't hear because he's in admiring his nose. He's in the mirror just admiring his nose. I had a woman once say to me, because I, I, my, my nose, everyone, you know, we all hate ourselves, et cetera, blah, blah, blah. And a woman asked me once, she was like, oh, you're, did you get a nose job? And I was like, what? And she's like, your nose is perfect. And I was like, you don't know how much that means to me. I was, you obviously haven't seen it from the, you haven't seen it. And then I was of course like pulling it apart and showing her how bad it was and stuff.
3:59 Speaker 02 No, look at this angle. Look at this angle and look up there.
4:02 Speaker 01 If my phone opens on the front camera and I, and I'm like this, yeah. Anyway, I was thrilled. This is the thing. We, me and Joe were just discussing when you, before you, um, joined us.
4:14 Speaker 01 We were talking, I was talking about maybe going back to college and studying Greek and Roman. History. I know, another. I'll do that after I get my cherub tattoo, blah, blah, blah. We're just talking shit. We were saying though, how in college you didn't know how good you had it because you'd nothing to do. Like you'd no responsibilities. Now you had no money, but it was wasted on them.
4:33 Speaker 02 You didn't know money.
4:35 Speaker 03 It didn't matter that you had no money because not having any money wasn't stressful. It didn't matter.
4:39 Speaker 02 No, but no one had money though.
4:41 Speaker 01 It didn't matter.
4:41 Speaker 02 Like you could scrape coins together for a bottle of wine for a fiver.
4:44 Speaker 01 Yeah. You were borrowing tenors and borrowing fibers and all. It was like a lot of bartering going on.
4:50 Speaker 02 Do you remember the Western Union? Do you remember the Western? I used to get my dad, when I moved to San Francisco and I was making an absolute fortune but spending it as soon as I got it. And so I used to have to get my dad to send me money and like I used to get him to Western Union me money. Do you remember that? Is that still a thing, the Western Union?
5:06 Speaker 01 I don't know. I'm sure it is. It is because I remember, I think I had to have a, I think I had to be Western Unionized in Australia once, last year. Yeah, on the reg.
5:19 Speaker 01 College, you'd love to go back, wouldn't you?
5:21 Speaker 02 I, you see, I was in Aberdeen and when I say I went wild, like we went up the walls over there. Because I used to have my, like I didn't live with my parents. I literally was free. I had been set free and I was a nightmare.
5:34 Speaker 01 That's how you should do it. Dublin, Dublin University is different because I went to UCD and I lived in Dublin. So there was no reason to move out and they, my parents stayed.
5:42 Speaker 02 They wouldn't have paid for it.
5:43 Speaker 01 Exactly. They wouldn't have paid for it. So it's not the same college experience, you know?
5:47 Speaker 02 No, no. But I did, now Neil was, because Neil was paying for me to live somewhere in Aberdeen. I got a hundred quid a month. That's what I lived off and I lived off it. Hundred quid a month. That's where my penchant for pasta pesto first arose because it was so cheap to make.
6:03 Speaker 01 Yeah. God bless the Italians.
6:05 Speaker 02 Oh God, thank God. And some frozen chips. I used to love a frozen chip. Yuck.
6:10 Speaker 01 My favourite college meal was two minute instant noodles on white toast with curry gals.
6:19 Speaker 02 Well, that's wild.
6:20 Speaker 01 And the butter will be like literally bubbling if you so much of it. It'll be like an extra layer of slime on top of the noodles.
6:26 Speaker 02 Kerry, oh, you were hitting the Kerry. Oh, you were living at home.
6:30 Speaker 01 Well, actually, I, do you know what I was thinking when I, I was actually thinking around the student time, but I was in, I was in Australia when I did that. Day in, day out. Not, not a nutrient to be seen in that meal. Not a single nutrient.
6:43 Speaker 02 But it just goes to show you, you can have a beige diet and be absolutely fine. Kids may survive on beige and they're grand.
6:50 Speaker 01 Yeah. Do you remember your one, do you remember the English woman who was feeding her kid McDonald's and everyone was going mad? Now that is bad. Do you remember? She had her in the high chair feeding her chips. It was nutrients.
7:02 Speaker 02 It was just daily life.
7:03 Speaker 01 I just love McDonald's.
7:10 Speaker 02 Joanne McNally and Jo, what has Spencer organised for my birthday? I am having a nervous breakdown. I wanted fifteen to twenty people in my house, just having a few drinks. He's mentioned seventy to a hundred. What's happened here?
7:23 Speaker 01 Well, he asked me for my passport.
7:25 Speaker 02 Oh, Jesus Christ. Are we going away? What's happening?
7:31 Speaker 01 I've been asked to donate blood. So I'm not sure what's happening, but I'm, I'm guessing it's going to be something intense.
7:37 Speaker 02 Have you been asked to perform?
7:41 Speaker 01 Imagine, like, if he did that to me.
7:44 Speaker 02 That's all I want for my birthday, John. That's all I want.
7:46 Speaker 01 Yeah, sure. You're paying like everyone else.
7:50 Speaker 02 I'm like a nervous, honestly, he's like, this is, your problem is that you're too controlling. And I'm like, it's, I just, we cannot fit that amount of people in our apartment if that's who you think we're inviting. Somebody, I was like, sorry, I've never even had a drink with that person. I think I've met that person twice. I'm like, why is this happening?
8:08 Speaker 01 What's he, what is all this about? Did, was he, I feel like he was, was he, um, was he, what's the word?
8:16 Speaker 02 I don't know, I think he felt bad because he didn't do anything for my Irish birthday.
8:19 Speaker 01 There, you see, yeah, there, and there we have it. I was gonna say, this sounds like he's trying to make up for something.
8:25 Speaker 02 I, I just, I would like to just point out to everyone who's gonna see the second batch of celebrations and think she, like, needs to get the F over herself. It's not down to me, and I know it looks bad, okay? But I can't stop it because I'm being told I'm being controlling.
8:42 Speaker 01 I think this is good for you. I think this is good for you.
8:46 Speaker 02 I feel a bit embarrassed. I feel a bit embarrassed.
8:48 Speaker 01 Don't be, but don't be. It's your fortieth. Everyone's allowed to go above and be over for their, uh, everyone's allowed to go above and aboard for their fortieth. Our mutual friend, he just had his fortieth.
9:00 Speaker 03 We're just sticking with above and aboard, are we now?
9:02 Speaker 02 I just left her to, she got there close enough. She was close enough.
9:05 Speaker 01 What is it?
9:06 Speaker 02 Above and beyond, above and beyond.
9:08 Speaker 03 Somewhere between above and beyond and going overboard, I think.
9:10 Speaker 01 I just woke up, I haven't had my espresso yet.
9:13 Speaker 02 You need to upgrade to a sage. I told you, you'll never look back.
9:16 Speaker 01 I haven't got a coffee machine. I'm an instant gal. Although my taxi man the other day was telling me that it's viciously carcinogenic, but like, isn't everything?
9:23 Speaker 02 Sorry, you're on the, you're still hitting the granules?
9:26 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
9:27 Speaker 03 I couldn't be less surprised.
9:29 Speaker 02 Nobody in the entire world is drinking granules except you, John McCall.
9:34 Speaker 01 I couldn't be arsed though, that pod business. Waste of time and pods.
9:38 Speaker 02 It's literally, okay, well then you just don't, don't get a sage. It's absolutely not for you.
9:43 Speaker 01 Well, now I want one. You put it in my head now. You planted a sage seed.
9:48 Speaker 02 You'll have to buy beans and everything. It's, it's too much for you. It's too much.
9:52 Speaker 01 It doesn't matter. I like collecting kitchen things that I don't use. I have, I have an air fryer and a, and a juicer in there I've never touched. And a soda stream. A toaster.
10:01 Speaker 02 A soda stream?
10:02 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
10:02 Speaker 02 A soda stream.
10:03 Speaker 01 Oh, leave me for 15 minutes on my own on the internet and I'll purchase something for the kitchen that I never go into. I, I'll have a sage. I want a sage. I'll do that today.
10:12 Speaker 02 I'm not getting one. They're really expensive. I've asked for all my aunties to get me one for my mom's house in Spain because whenever I go to Spain, I'm like, I can't bear being away from the sage. And I love the Spanish, but they don't do the best coffee. So like, I've asked everyone to contribute towards a sage from my mom's house.
10:26 Speaker 01 I was seeing, I was seeing a man recently, no, yeah, kind of.
10:31 Speaker 02 About a dog?
10:32 Speaker 01 Seeing a man about a dog. I was seeing a dog who was a man. And he, one evening, I was, I, we went for food near his apartment, he was moving out. And um, his, we bumped into two friends of his. And then we ended up eating with his friends, they were really nice. And then he, this, the, the boy, who we will call Barry. He was like, oh, I might, I'm gonna go down and, I don't know, take some, I don't know. He went out to meet his father, his father was helping him move out of the apartment. Left me with his friends.
11:03 Speaker 02 Oh.
11:04 Speaker 01 I, his friend then was like, I'll pay for it. And I was like, no, no, I'll get me and the, me and Barry. And he was like, no, no, it's fine, I'll pay for it. But Barry left me to pay for him. And I-
11:13 Speaker 02 So you were paying for Barry's lunch, or was it a coffee?
11:15 Speaker 01 No, food, it was food and drinks. It was food and drinks. And then I went and that, then he never, Barry never came back. And he was moving away the next day, he never came back, and then he-
11:24 Speaker 02 Food and alcohol drinks?
11:26 Speaker 01 Yes, food and alcohol drinks.
11:27 Speaker 02 Fuck Barry, fucking Barry.
11:29 Speaker 01 This was, this was, this was Barry's style.
11:31 Speaker 02 Oh my god, what a, what a cheap Barry.
11:34 Speaker 01 And I left, I, he's left me sitting in the restaurant and I eventually figured he wasn't coming back. So I walked out and saw him, the silhouette of him packing a Sage coffee machine. That's why I brought this up, into his dad's boot. And his father drove him off anyway, he drove, he drove with a Sage coffee machine. And I was like, you care more about that Sage fucking coffee machine? Because he's always talking about that coffee machine.
11:56 Speaker 02 I'll tell you what, I was, I was against Barry there until he mentioned the shit Sage. You don't understand, John. I leave my mother on the side of the road for a Sage, like, it's just how it is.
12:07 Speaker 01 He just left me, never came back, never said goodbye. And then texted me, I think, a couple of days later. And just, and I said, oh, I texted him and said, by the way, your friend paid for your food and drinks, you might want to thank him.
12:18 Speaker 02 Oh, so you didn't pay for it, the friend did?
12:20 Speaker 01 No, the friend ended up paying for all of us, which was completely unnecessary. But yeah, anyway, I, I'll never forget the image of him, because I'm, I thought he looked so pathetic. And I remember actually-
12:31 Speaker 02 Maybe it's too triggering for you to have one of them?
12:32 Speaker 01 I remember kind of laughing and I was like, Joanne, can't, you can't be, don't fucking waste your time on this. This thing, this is, look at the state of this thing, dragging a Sage coffee machine into his father's car. Goodbye.
12:46 Speaker 02 I think that's kind of high end.
12:47 Speaker 01 To the left, to the left.
12:48 Speaker 02 You'd rather he was dragging, you'd rather he was dragging a bag in S Cafe.
12:53 Speaker 01 Get your, get a taxi. It's your father picking you up. You know what I mean? You're fucking forty odd.
12:59 Speaker 02 Sorry. I don't want to stick up for Barry either, but like, Pat gives you lift the air for all time.
13:06 Speaker 01 Yeah, and it's pathetic. That's why no one dates me now. Okay?
13:12 Speaker 02 It's Pat's fault.
13:13 Speaker 01 I would never have the knack or gall to leave someone, cover my dinner, not even ask them, not even acknowledge that that was happening. The assumption was I would pay for it because I paid for everything with Barry. I didn't even know Barry had pockets because he never put his hand on them.
13:30 Speaker 01 And I saw, and, and he ran down and grabbed this sage cough machine and then moved, moved away.
13:34 Speaker 02 Well, I'll tell you what, Barry did have pockets because those cough machines are pretty expensive.
13:39 Speaker 01 Yeah.
13:39 Speaker 02 Unless, unless he got a refurbished one. I don't know.
13:42 Speaker 01 He was treating it like it was definitely a prized possession.
13:46 Speaker 02 It's probably the most expensive thing he owned.
13:48 Speaker 01 As I sat alone in the bar.
13:52 Speaker 02 Look at Joe's face. Are you looking up the price of them?
13:53 Speaker 03 You can spend two grand on one of them.
13:55 Speaker 01 What?
13:57 Speaker 02 Oh, well, mine doesn't cost two grand. No, you can't.
13:59 Speaker 01 No wonder he's killing it on the thing.
14:01 Speaker 03 It's a little iPad where you pick a picture of the coffee you want. It's pathetic.
14:05 Speaker 01 Okay, Joe, is it pathetic if, if one arrived at your door? How pathetic is it then?
14:09 Speaker 03 Well, then, then it's a.
14:10 Speaker 01 Is it coming? Is one coming for me and Joe?
14:12 Speaker 03 Then it's hashtag gratitude.
14:13 Speaker 01 Guys, I want one. I'm having to put, get all my aunties to pitch in together to get me one. It's not the two grand one. Buy your own. I'm not, I'm not in charge. I'm just sage.
14:21 Speaker 02 That's insane.
14:33 Speaker 01 Hang on, Spenny, what do you think your nose?
14:35 Speaker 03 I think he's all right.
14:36 Speaker 02 He's all right?
14:37 Speaker 03 Yeah, it's growing with time.
14:39 Speaker 02 It's growing with time. Oh.
14:41 Speaker 01 Is it?
14:42 Speaker 02 He's more south away.
14:42 Speaker 03 They keep growing, don't they? Ears and noses? That's humans.
14:46 Speaker 02 My feet are growing. My feet. I used to definitely be a size seven and now I'm, I'm hitting the forty ones. I'll be proud.
14:56 Speaker 02 I can't afford for my feet to grow, Joanne.
14:58 Speaker 01 That's how I feel about my forehead and botox.
15:03 Speaker 02 My hands are gonna start dragging on the ground soon, honestly.
15:07 Speaker 01 Your feet usually shrink. I've hit the stage, wait till you hit your forty, wait till you go forty five, everything does start shrinking. That's like old people, they look like they've been put, when you put a woolly jumper on a hot wash.
15:19 Speaker 01 They shrink down.
15:21 Speaker 02 I'm looking forward to that. That's the only thing I'm looking forward to about getting old.
15:24 Speaker 01 So there's so many, my whole life.
15:26 Speaker 02 Oh my god, I was watching someone's, well it wasn't TikTok, it was on Instagram last night. There was this, for some reason, all this ghost stuff comes up for me now, because you know I'm mad for ghost stuff. And there was a woman there and she was like practising a dance and filming, can relate to that. She was practising a dance and filming it. And then this, this voice from behind the curtain started saying, am I your friend? Am I your friend? And she freaked out and I thought it was a ghost. It was an actual human man standing behind a curtain who had come in the other door. And was standing there and he's like, am I your friend? And she ran to the door and she's like, get out, get out. And I was like, huh. Imagine you're just privately trying to practise your dancing and there's a man standing with an orange jumper he was.
16:07 Speaker 01 Privately trying to practise, I'm just trying to practise. I'd be more worried that I'm gonna be grape'd and killed than to be spotted practising my dancing.
16:17 Speaker 01 I can't believe I've been spotted practising my dancing.
16:20 Speaker 02 Jesus, I just wanted a bit of privacy here.
16:22 Speaker 01 I'm only practising, it's not, I'm not finished yet, if that's what you're thinking. I've more to learn. If you're thinking it's not good, yeah.
16:30 Speaker 02 Yeah.
16:32 Speaker 01 I watch way too much true crime to sleep with my windows open, or doors.
16:36 Speaker 02 No, and I, I can't have a bed that doesn't touch the ground. My bed has to touch the ground.
16:40 Speaker 01 Well, that's spirit, that's spirit, that's fear of the, of ghosts in the actual life. I have genuine fears of alive men.
16:46 Speaker 02 Feel a man being under my, under my bed and grabbing my feet. I'd be more frightened if it was a woman under the bed because I just think that women, if it's a woman under the bed, it's so unusual that she really must have lost the plot because it just seems like more of a man thing to do.
17:01 Speaker 01 Women don't commit crimes. There, I said it. Women are perfect. We barely, barely commit them.
17:10 Speaker 02 Isn't it nice how we've just like, we've gone into this like roles where I read you them, you get to, you get to choose them and then I just read.
17:18 Speaker 01 Yeah. You just kind of decided that.
17:22 Speaker 02 I'll swap. Do you ever been at school and you'd be like, they'd be like, who would like to read? And everyone's like, me.
17:27 Speaker 01 Yeah.
17:29 Speaker 01 Yeah, everyone loves reading. Although I find-
17:31 Speaker 02 If you're missing out on it, you can take it. I don't feel like I'm just hogging it.
17:35 Speaker 01 I'm actually not that good like at reading, you know, out loud.
17:41 Speaker 02 Okay, go on. Okay. Dear Joanna Folk, girls, oh my God, I need your sage words of advice.
17:49 Speaker 01 Hashtag ad.
17:49 Speaker 02 She said sage. Did she say sage? She said sage.
17:56 Speaker 02 That is the word of the day. My ex cheated on me a few years ago and I still think about him almost daily. Oh God. To give you a bit of background-
18:04 Speaker 01 Sorry, when did he cheat on her?
18:06 Speaker 02 A few years ago.
18:07 Speaker 01 Okay.
18:08 Speaker 02 To give you a bit of background, we met in college. I was 18 and naive and fell madly in love with him. The feeling was mutual. We were all over each other. We grew really close and lived in each other's pockets. I was attending all the family functions, little cousins confirmations, Christmas dinners, et cetera. His mother and I were great friends and his dad doted over me. I was in their family calendar and there were photos of me on the walls in his home. We had a very happy relationship for two and a half years.
18:33 Speaker 01 Right.
18:33 Speaker 02 Or so I thought. One, two, skip a few, and it turns out he was cheating on me with his girl best friends.
18:41 Speaker 01 Oh God.
18:43 Speaker 02 I was heartbroken. It absolutely shattered me. My mental health really plummeted after we broke up and I went a little insane.
18:51 Speaker 01 Hmm.
18:52 Speaker 02 You need to read that Dolly Alderton book about that breakup and your man just describes how insane he went. So don't worry, everyone goes insane.
19:00 Speaker 01 He's immaterial.
19:02 Speaker 02 It became very messy. He tried to get me back a few times and we would get biblical in inappropriate places when we'd need to check in. Cue coffee by Chapel Rome. Anyways, this was a few years ago. I did all the things you're supposed to do to get through a breakup, gave myself a fucked up haircut, went to therapy and generally hoard around to make myself feel better. I'm in a much better place now. I'm generally very satisfied with my life, my job and my new relationship. I'm head over heels in love with my new boyfriend and I genuinely think he's the one that will go the distance. This new man I met on Tinder treats me like a queen and makes me feel so loved and adored. He's wonderful. It's genuinely the best relationship and best sex I could ever imagine.
19:44 Speaker 02 But the ex still niggles at me. I had a dream the other night about sitting, watching TV with him and his mom. Sometimes I get angry all over again that he treated me like shit and I wanted to go throw eggs at his house. I know from mutual friends, Dublin is tiny, that he's still with the girl he cheated on me with. I don't, oh, I know, that makes it just bloody worse. I don't miss him and I wish I could say I don't care, but part of me is still so annoyed that he treated me like crap and had no repercussions. I have dreams about him quite frequently that range from us doing mundane things to him being injured or dying.
20:21 Speaker 02 What do we think? Is it time for more therapy or will it just go away eventually? Any advice or thoughts would be greatly appreciated. Love the pod, both of you and Joe. Please keep me anonymous. I personally think that you're like, I don't think that you're hung up on him at all, as you say. I think that you're just still really pissed off that he did that to you and that's totally fine to be like that. I have exes who did that to me and I I still would look at them and be like, but like, I don't think about them or anything like that, but I'm just a bit like, you're a dick because you just, if they make you feel like shit, you just want them to feel like shit.
21:00 Speaker 01 Yeah, I hard relate to this woman because I.
21:05 Speaker 01 Was, I was in a relationship, that's the one I am talking about in this show, where he cheated pretty regularly, but I never caught, like, he, he never, there was no consequences for him, for it, do you know what I mean? Because I just wasn't, I wish I'd, well, I wish I'd done so, I saw many things I wish I'd done differently. And yeah, I thought, I think I was, I think I was treated quite badly, but there was never any repercussions because we broke up and then there was this big blow up and we never spoke. And then I was still trying to make friends with him, even though he cheated on me all the time. So weird, I'm so.
21:40 Speaker 02 You kind of, yeah, you kind of want everyone to know that they're a wanker as well, but at the end of the day, they'll, they'll do things in their own life that people will know that they're a wanker. You don't need to feel like even slighted because everyone's kind of letting them away as such. And karma's a bitch.
21:55 Speaker 01 I'm getting angry again just thinking about that. I'm literally, I'm very, like, it's so, you know, yeah. And do you know what?
22:06 Speaker 01 Come on, calm yourself.
22:09 Speaker 01 A leopard never changes its spots and that is the truest truth you'll ever true yourself. And he'll leave you as he finds you and he'll find you as he leaves you. If he does it with you, he does it to you, he'll do it on you. And I was the exact same, he, my, this guy I was with, I was cheating with his, well, with everyone, but one of them was his female, in inverted commas, best friend. And I always wondered why she was weird with me when I met her. Obviously a clockstick, it kind of tracked them when I found out. They were having us, behind my back, they were having us, as they'd say.
22:42 Speaker 02 You kind of will always, like, it's not that you're gonna, like, well, I mean, I love, I do, I hold grudges and I don't necessarily hold a grudge against people who've cheated on me. I'm just like, God, you're a gobshite. God, man, Joe.
22:57 Speaker 01 To capitate yourself.
22:58 Speaker 02 Joe, turn off your camera, Joe. Turn off your camera now.
23:01 Speaker 01 Sorry.
23:01 Speaker 03 It's time for me to say sorry, isn't it?
23:03 Speaker 01 You're just, there's hangovers of this stuff. It just sits with you, it stays with you. Like, I dream about loads of my exes. Do you know what I mean?
23:09 Speaker 02 You'll be all right.
23:11 Speaker 01 They're in the system. Thank God you've got someone new and sound, that's it. And like I say, it's not like he's had a complete lobotomy. That's who he is. Do you know what I mean?
23:19 Speaker 02 But also, I think that you don't necessarily need therapy over that, but why don't you just get therapy anyway? I love getting a bit of therapy.
23:25 Speaker 01 Oh, always get. Therapy's always the answer.
23:28 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, it really is.
23:29 Speaker 01 I might hit mine up.
23:31 Speaker 02 I might hit mine up. If you do yours, I'll do mine. Go on. Mine just texted me recently. It's like he knew.
23:36 Speaker 01 Did he text you and said, "I've listened to your podcast recently, you sound more insane than usual. Do you want to drop in?"
23:41 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, and he said, "If you want to send Joanne my way, I'll give her a 20% discount for friends and family."
23:46 Speaker 01 Yeah, if she blocked books. A friend of mine was walking through, a friend of mine was walking through Clapham and his trainer, who we hadn't been to in a while, called out the window, said something along the lines of, "You," because he had put on a couple of pounds. He's like, "You look like you need me again."
24:02 Speaker 02 Oh, oh my God. Look at she, shame.
24:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. So, yeah, I mean, you know, if you see a client struggling, I can see why therapists are trying to appreciate.
24:22 Speaker 02 Thank you so much for listening. I hope that you start to feel a little bit better about that. As years go on, you will, but you'll probably always still be a bit pissed off because you were slighted.
24:29 Speaker 01 You were slighted.
24:30 Speaker 02 By something.
24:31 Speaker 01 Sometimes you have to close it for yourself. Like, I've been in situations where I've been wanting closure from the other person and you get to the point where you're like, "They're never going to give it to me. I need to just do this myself now." Doon on duris.
24:43 Speaker 02 Huh?
24:44 Speaker 01 Yeah, doon on mental duris.
24:46 Speaker 02 Yeah, doon on mental duris.
24:48 Speaker 01 Let's close the door, Oscar Elga Joe, in our native language that we speak fluently, but we, out of politeness.
24:54 Speaker 02 Now that you haven't been doing your Duolingo.
24:57 Speaker 01 Out of politeness, we don't speak in front of you, Joe, but we are.
25:01 Speaker 01 Yeah, my streak has, my streak has, has pulled to the bit. Oh, I forgot you were doing the Duolingo. I'll get back to it.
25:09 Speaker 02 Amber does Duolingo, but she'll do it like she couldn't give a shit about the fact that anyone else is sitting there. Like, I'm sitting in the car and I'm like, and she's like, sorry, folk, I'm on a 364 day streak. I can't, I can't stop. I'm nearing any year. And like, she won't stop. Now she's into the year and she still does sit in the car and I'm like, can you just put headphones on or something? I have to listen to this shit.
25:28 Speaker 01 I was on a date once and he, and he fit, and he like did his Duolingo at the table.
25:36 Speaker 01 It was Barry.
25:38 Speaker 03 Oh, Barry.
25:39 Speaker 02 Oh, Barry is on fire. God bless the next woman who has to meet, who's unfortunate enough to come across Barry.
25:46 Speaker 01 He interrupted the dinner. I mean, I, and he, yeah, and he took me to Nandals.
25:51 Speaker 02 Was it Barry whose trainer was asking from?
25:54 Speaker 01 Whoa. No, no, no, no. Men are goss.
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