MTGM EXTRA! "He might like to try pegging..."

It's one of THOSE Wednesday episodes, where an email has come in that needs no introduction... It's a big one. Plus, Vogue's meeting with Kim K and Joanne's review of the new Lily Allen album. Tickets for Joanne's tour Pinotphile are now LIVE: www.joannemcnally.com If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

• 0:02Speaker 00

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:10Speaker 01

  Hello and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Goes To Me. And when I say we have had one of the greatest emails of all time.

• 0:19Speaker 02

  Don't over sell us.

• 0:20Speaker 01

  It's top three, Joanne. It is top three. It's pretty epic.

• 0:25Speaker 01

  Do you think I look like Marla? I said to Joe, he doesn't know what Marla is. Marla's played classic scene. But do you think I look like that? Is that just me seeing that on the screen?

• 0:34Speaker 02

  Well, you do. Your skin looks insanely perfect.

• 0:38Speaker 01

  Yeah. Have I put a filter on this by some miraculous way?

• 0:42Speaker 02

  I hope so.

• 0:44Speaker 03

  You possibly have. You might be being filtered at the moment.

• 0:47Speaker 01

  I look like I have gone back to my Facetune days and I've just rubbed out my nose again.

• 0:52Speaker 02

  You do look weirdly good.

• 0:55Speaker 01

  I don't look this good. I just checked. I saw my Instagram and I checked and I was like, oh, no, no, no, no. Something's wrong with the laptop.

• 1:02Speaker 02

  Imagine it's, imagine there is no filter and you're just like, oh my God, I look so good. I've been accidentally filtered. This is like when I was in Cape Town and Ross, my friend who was with me took photos and he put them up and I was like, God, I look amazing. I was like, did you, did you fucking filter them, Ross? Did you Facetune them? He's like, no. I was like, you did. He's like, I might have done a little bit of fidgeting. I was like, tell me. Cause now I'm an accidental catfish. Do you know what I mean?

• 1:29Speaker 01

  You can do it. You can do it. Like no one's, no one's doing anything without a Paris filter. Come on, let's be honest.

• 1:34Speaker 02

  Oh, God.

• 1:35Speaker 01

  Everyone gets the Paris.

• 1:36Speaker 02

  Yeah, I'm raw dogging it on the internet. Are you mad? I'm 42.

• 1:40Speaker 01

  I'll Paris my fucking coffee. I just, everything gets Paris. It's just a twitch. I'm like, picture Paris, picture Paris.

• 1:46Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 1:46Speaker 01

  It has to be.

• 1:47Speaker 02

  Are we talking about the Kardashians or not?

• 1:50Speaker 01

  I didn't ring you back.

• 1:52Speaker 02

  You didn't ring me back.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  Well, because I was in the taxi and I thought the taxi driver would think I was showing off talking about Kim Kardashian.

• 2:00Speaker 01

  Time stood. Okay, I'll give context. Excuse me.

• 2:04Speaker 02

  Oh, wow.

• 2:06Speaker 01

  I, as any listener will know, I have a deep, probably strange and scary obsession with the Kardashians. I've loved them since day one. I particularly am fond of Kim Kardashian. She is just like, I just love her. I'm sorry, and I'm not sorry as well. She is my, I love her. She's my idol. Some people choose Mother Teresa. I say Kim Kardashian. And I, I got to Disney, asked me to interview her for her new show, All's Fair, and I was interviewing Sarah Paulson, Naomi Watts, Nisi Nash, Antiana Taylor, and Kim Kardashian, who is my dream. So the whole week was kind of like, I was just in this, just like not myself because I was so nervous and so anxious about meeting her.

• 2:48Speaker 01

  Anyway, went to the premiere, we spoke about that, and time stood still, not just for me, for everyone.

• 2:56Speaker 02

  Really? Now, I'd say she's mauler faced, like au naturel, not naturel, I mean, obviously she's doing her bits and bobs. But I'd say up close, she's got quite a, quite a perfect look.

• 3:07Speaker 01

  I thought she'd be more mullet, to be honest. Yeah, that's what everyone was most excited about, to see what she smelled like. She kind of smelled like leather because she was wearing a leather dress, but she wasn't as mullet as I thought she'd be like. I thought she was gonna like have layers and layer, like, like what I look like now and the listeners can't see, but layers and layers of makeup on. And like, you wouldn't really be able to, to see her actual features, but she, she didn't look like that.

• 3:29Speaker 02

  That's refreshing.

• 3:32Speaker 01

  Now, she'd love to make them on, but so did I.

• 3:33Speaker 02

  Yeah, but you forget that these people have pores, do you know what I mean? You're like, yeah, these people have pores.

• 3:38Speaker 01

  I didn't see a pore. I didn't suggest a pore. Christ, I didn't see a line or a pore, obviously.

• 3:44Speaker 02

  Sorry.

• 3:45Speaker 01

  But, so she walked onto the carpet, and I've done those red carpet things. Someone said to me as well, they were like, we invited Joanne, but she's, she's on tour. And I was like, this would be Joanne McNally's idea of actual hell. I was like, she would not want to do a red carpet.

• 4:02Speaker 02

  No, I'm not a red carpet girly. I've just, I've just not. They just, they just, I don't, I don't like them.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  I said, I said, I said to her, I was like, sometimes when we walk out of Global, there might be a pop and she'll literally sprint like I've never seen her sprint.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  I do a red carpet if it's a show I'm in myself, but I, I wouldn't go to that much effort and work for something I'm not in, just to get a little giddy image, couldn't be arsed.

• 4:24Speaker 01

  So here's, yeah, here's my thing. I have realised that I like working at things and like, that's how I go and do it. And then I'll get my pictures taken. But, but when she came onto the carpet, it was like everyone just, just held their breath and every, like, everybody just turned around and stopped what they were doing, turned around and just stared at her. And I was like, that is, I have ne- I've never seen it with anyone else. And I've seen famous people on the red carpet, nobody near what she did. It was like, it was like, everybody was just waiting for her. It was mental.

• 4:57Speaker 02

  She's kind of like a hot Jesus, isn't she?

• 5:01Speaker 01

  Yes, she's hot Jesus.

• 5:03Speaker 02

  Is she like a hot Jesus? Is that like, is that, is that an insane analogy? She is probably the most famous woman alive, is she?

• 5:12Speaker 01

  I think so. She's got 350 million Instagram followers. I'd follow her onto the arc. She's like Noah, Noah and his arc.

• 5:18Speaker 02

  Even after all the Starbucks and the fucking, even all the, even after all her controversy, she's still got 350 million. Do you remember two people trying to get her cancelled? It's like, it's like, it's like trying to, it's like trying to cancel the moon. Like, you can't cancel her. She's just too big.

• 5:34Speaker 01

  You can't cancel Kim Kardashian, but I saw Kris Jenner as well up close.

• 5:39Speaker 02

  Go on. How's the facelift looking? Let's get into the, let's get into the big news, the important stuff. Can you see the stitches? Are there staples? How are the scars?

• 5:48Speaker 01

  Well, have you seen all that stuff that's going around? And it's like, this is what her facelift actually looks like without all the filters and.

• 5:54Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 5:56Speaker 01

  Not true. It, now she was wearing sunglasses, I will, and everyone looks hotter with sunglasses and it does hide a lot, but she looked unreal. She didn't have wrinkles and stuff like that. Her face was taut and this guy that I was with from Disney had said to her, cause he goes to all of them. He was like, oh my God, you look amazing. And she goes, I know.

• 6:18Speaker 02

  That's what I was saying.

• 6:18Speaker 01

  She does. She had this fellow going around with this massive light as well, taking her pictures. But I got caught in a really uncomfortable position because I was up at this podium and I was talking to Sarah Paulson, who's really, really funny. She's an actress in it. The thing I will say, and I loved doing it, but like you're, you have to stick to certain questions when you're doing stuff with this. Like, you know, and if we had someone on the pod or something like that, we'd just be like, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Whatever. You can do whatever you want. You have to kind of, like, you can sneak a few bits in, but you have to be very careful. There's people all over the.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  Of course.

• 6:47Speaker 01

  But, um, so she came over to me and I, I like, I was, I was, I was unusually calm, but I felt like I was.

• 6:53Speaker 02

  Who, sorry, I've lost track. Who are we talking about now?

• 6:55Speaker 01

  Kim. Oh, sorry. I'll tell you about the awkward moment. Sorry, first, the awkward moment before. So I'm interviewing Sarah Paulson, then on my other side is Kris Jenner and her and Sarah Paulson are talking, but they're talking quite close and I'm just kind of literally standing there in the middle of them, just being like, and one's at one shoulder and one's at the other shoulder. And then, uh, and then like they're talking about going to Chloe's house and that like, they wanted to meet Chloe. And I was like, can I come? And I tried to get off.

• 7:22Speaker 02

  Did you do that thing? Remember, do you remember I did that in the dressing room once to someone and you were there? I'm not going to say their name. Do you remember?

• 7:29Speaker 01

  No.

• 7:30Speaker 02

  You do, you do. Do you remember we went, um, and she said she was going for lunch with Demi Moore?

• 7:37Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 7:37Speaker 02

  And I jokingly, to kind of break the ice, because it felt like such an insane name drop, was like, oh, can I come? Ha, ha. Like, and she said, no, no, no, it's just. Yeah. She treated it like it was a genuine question.

• 7:52Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 7:55Speaker 02

  No, no, no, I don't think so. It's just, it's just.

• 7:56Speaker 01

  Pick me. Pick me, pick me.

• 7:58Speaker 02

  I'm obviously taking the piss. So you had one of those moments. I'm delighted.

• 8:02Speaker 01

  I had one of those moments, sorry, in, in the middle of the two of them. But anyway, what could you do? Like, I'm like, I'm honestly like, I'm, I'm like a sewer rat, just.

• 8:11Speaker 02

  Yeah. You're, you're, you're, you've to fill your time. That's what I think part of those jobs that make them really difficult is there's a lot of filler. You have to fill a lot of stuff, whether it be time or you have to, there's a lot of time you're kind of standing on your own. You, you know, you have to kind of look relaxed all the time. Yeah.

• 8:27Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah.

• 8:28Speaker 02

  Whereas I'd be licking the walls.

• 8:30Speaker 01

  I know, but I did have a bit of help with my bed and blocker, but Kim came over then. And, and so basically we were up on this podium, all had been set up for her and the lighting, you've never seen lighting like this at a, at a premiere. I was mad about myself until I got off the, the, the podium and then I realised I was ugly again.

• 8:48Speaker 02

  Maybe this is why you look so good. Maybe you've just been touched by the Kim, the Kardashians. Maybe just you've, you've just rubbed off them and a little bit of their, I don't know, a little bit of their beauties kind of latched onto your face. You've been anointed. You're like a vision now. Like you're one of knock, like that woman of knock.

• 9:06Speaker 01

  I was gonna say like the, the Hocus Pocus girls.

• 9:10Speaker 03

  Yeah. Different reference point.

• 9:12Speaker 02

  Do you mean Death Becomes her?

• 9:14Speaker 01

  No, in Hocus Pocus where Beth Midler sucks the youth out of the kids.

• 9:20Speaker 02

  Yes. You're like, you're the witches.

• 9:24Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm part of their convent.

• 9:26Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 9:27Speaker 01

  Is it a covenant or a convent? Convent? Covenant?

• 9:29Speaker 02

  You're, you should now, you're in it. You've joined the Kardashian convent. Keep us in the loop.

• 9:36Speaker 01

  Oh my God, I'm gonna be getting younger by the day. But then we had to, they were like, Kim can't walk up the stairs. She couldn't walk in the dress. So we had to, we all like running down, like making sure that we got her. So I only got her. The other two people beside me didn't get her. So I was absolutely thrilled. And then everyone was so happy for me from Disney because they knew how obsessed I was. And they were like, it was like I had like won the lottery. They're like, I'm so happy for you.

• 9:59Speaker 02

  Are you saying that two other people got all dolled up and did their bits and bobs, got on the red carpet and then didn't get to interview her?

• 10:05Speaker 01

  They got everyone else that didn't get Kim.

• 10:07Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 10:09Speaker 03

  It's not very practical to wear a dress that you can't use stairs in.

• 10:12Speaker 02

  She's always doing this shit, Jo. She wore, remember she wore a help, remember she wore a thing of bandages before? She was just bandaged up like a sprained ankle.

• 10:19Speaker 01

  I did ask her, I was like, at the Mac Allen, could you see her not? And she goes, why would I need to see? It was like, that's.

• 10:27Speaker 02

  Wow. That's an iconic answer. Just, just let, everyone just parts, the sea parts, people part.

• 10:34Speaker 01

  People do part. She, she is some kind of Messiah. Maybe, maybe, did she, was she born around Easter time? Can you check that now? She's born in October.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  That is hilarious. Did we think Jesus would come back and drive a Tesla? No.

• 10:49Speaker 01

  No, we didn't.

• 10:50Speaker 02

  Did we think Jesus would come back and have five Lamborghinis repeatedly given away by Kanye West? No. The world works in mysterious ways.

• 11:00Speaker 01

  Well, anyway, I'm still, I'm still on a high, but then, you know, I came down real hard on Thursday. I was like, I've never had anything like it because I had a busy week anyway, but like, it was like I crashed and like, I had to do something on Thursday morning. I had to be really on form. So I managed to get through that. But after that, I was like, my brain is not working. That is it. It's on holidays now. And I, I've started to feel normal again today. But I think when you've, I put so much pressure on myself for, because I was so nervous about it, that, uh, that, yeah, I kind of just died yesterday. It's weird. It was like I was hungover, but I hadn't drank.

• 11:32Speaker 02

  Yeah. It's your social battery. I had a day off yesterday. No day work, no night work. So a full 24 hours off. I woke up at half 10 in the morning, went absolutely not, went straight back to sleep. Woke up again at half 12, went to the cage, watched two films, opened a bottle of wine at four, drank half, but had three packets of crisps, made some calls.

• 11:54Speaker 02

  Didn't answer a single call.

• 11:55Speaker 01

  Tried to call me, tried to call me half pissed.

• 11:58Speaker 02

  Yeah. Wasn't, she wasn't having it. Didn't accept a single inbound call, cancelled all inbound calls, made a couple of outbound calls, then finished the bottle of wine, took a nap, sent some emails that I'd been putting off for a while, woke back up again, watched two more films, had a margarita, went back to sleep. When I say I've eaten, I, I don't know how many packets of crisps. There's crisps everywhere in the flat. There's bags of them everywhere. It was one of the most glorious days of my adult life.

• 12:25Speaker 04

  You're listening to a quick ad. You know what else is quick? Selling your car on Carvana. Just put in your vehicle information and we'll give you an offer. Done. No hassle, no negotiation, no guy from an online listing lowballing you. Which means by the time I'm done explaining this, you could have basically done it.

• 12:48Speaker 04

  Still haven't started? Hey, better late than ever. Sell your car today on Carvana. Pickup fees may apply.

• 13:01Speaker 02

  The two of you are actually interrupting my morning. I'm in the middle of listening to Lily Allen's new album.

• 13:07Speaker 01

  Oh.

• 13:08Speaker 02

  Well, well, well.

• 13:11Speaker 01

  Is it loads about the ex?

• 13:13Speaker 02

  It's all about the breakdown of a marriage. People are saying it's like a masterclass. A friend of mine texted me saying David Harbour is literally deleting his Spotify and throwing his phone in the Hudson. It is amazing.

• 13:25Speaker 01

  I don't like it for her though. I don't like him for her.

• 13:28Speaker 02

  If you didn't like him before, if you didn't like him before, you're certainly not gonna like him now. It's brilliant. Lily, fire. Chef's kiss. It's fantastic. Do you know what we discussed? We discussed there's two ways of dealing with fuckheads like him. You either take the high road, say nothing, and we always respect that. We're like, fair play to her. She's bitten her tongue and said nothing. Or you do what Lily Allen does and write a whole album about it.

• 13:50Speaker 01

  I kinda think she's been quite classy about it though as well. I don't think that she, well, I haven't listened to the album. I think that she hasn't, she hasn't gone in that hard in him on the press, considering what he did.

• 14:00Speaker 02

  Firstly, sorry, just to clarify, this isn't a class thing. I think this is wonderful what she's doing. I just think there's two ways of handling a situation and I'm in awe of both of them. Because we're out here dealing with these lads and, you know, there's their, it's, it's an absolute head melt. Like she went into us, she had to, she basically sectioned herself after us. That's how much it affected her. But this is word for word what happened. It starts at the very beginning of their, of their relationship where they moved to New York and bought a brownstone and she got cast in that play. The first song is called West End Girl. She got cast in the play as the lead in the play and she says that he was weird about it. And she flew home and that song finishes with a phone call from him where he's basically saying, I wanna open the marriage.

• 14:39Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 14:40Speaker 02

  And then we're in.

• 14:43Speaker 03

  And we're away.

• 14:44Speaker 01

  I mean, like, it just, but you know what, as well, I think for her, I always think success is great revenge as well. And she's been so successful since when she's, like, she got, like, everyone thought she was amazing in her play. She's doing another play, now she got this album. I like, I love that for her.

• 14:59Speaker 02

  This is phenomenal. It's phenomenal. In fact, I need to wrap this up because I need to go back and finish it.

• 15:08Speaker 02

  Honestly, Lily, like, fair play. Because you know the way, like, we've worked with people before Vogue, where they're like, don't, you know, don't drag other people into, like, a public spat and don't, you know, and it is good advice, but my god, this is also, I just really admire it.

• 15:23Speaker 01

  Do you know what? I'm kind of, I'm kind of jealous of her in a way, because there's been loads of times where I have wanted to, both of you know that as well, that I have wanted to speak out publicly on certain things, and I just, I'm always told not to, and just told to leave it, because if you speak out, it just is worse. And it does, it does drag more press into it, and like, when you're going through a hard time with something, and you can't stop it, because you can't actually come out and tell the truth about it, you just hope people will know that loads of the shit is bullshit, and you can't do it. So I'm kind of jealous that she can do it, because I'm more of a, keep your mouth shut, it will go away, you know what your own truth is, but at the same time, I just want to be like, no.

• 15:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, but she, but she's taking revenge on her ex-husband, which is different. You're trying to, you're, you've been on the receiving end of rumours that weren't true, that you were trying to get your side across, whereas this is, this is only Lily's side. Like, she's speaking her truth, and she's, it's about her ex-husband, because he absolutely destroyed her. Do you know what I mean?

• 16:16Speaker 01

  And he's, and he's now come back, because all of it's true. It's not like she's, like, all of that will have gone through legal and stuff like that, because you have to, if you're speaking about something, so like.

• 16:24Speaker 02

  She's, there's a whole song called Madeleine. I don't know if that's the real woman's name, but it's, the song is called Madeleine. The song before it stops with, who the fuck is Madeleine? And then the next song is all about Madeleine, who the, like, it's brilliant. Well done, Lily.

• 16:38Speaker 01

  Oh god, I can't wait.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  We love.

• 16:39Speaker 01

  Well done, Lily.

• 16:40Speaker 02

  This is bad, I think it's one of the best albums she's ever brought out, even though I haven't finished listening to it, because obviously, you know, I'm always bad into adultery.

• 16:50Speaker 01

  Dear Joanne, Jo, and what is about to be a proud, distressed Vogue. Oh, I'm scared.

• 16:57Speaker 03

  Oh yeah, also you should brace yourself too.

• 17:00Speaker 01

  I know that I will meet you guys in an upcoming event, but would love to tell you this in person just to see the reaction, but my Catholic shame is too great. My boyfriend had a few drinks in him once and our conversation got very intimate. On the topic of fantasies, he nervously suggested that he might like to try pegging.

• 17:18Speaker 02

  Fair, I'm in. Yeah, fine.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  We're in. My pleasing, my people pleasing habits are such that I rushed to reassure him that this was absolutely not an unusual request. Sure, isn't there a Pornhub category for it? Well, actually, I don't know. Do you know? There probably is. There's one.

• 17:33Speaker 02

  Of course, there is.

• 17:35Speaker 01

  And I'd have no qualms.

• 17:36Speaker 02

  There's a porn category for like soup, do you know what I mean?

• 17:39Speaker 01

  Is there?

• 17:40Speaker 02

  Well, I'm being facetious.

• 17:41Speaker 01

  I must check it out.

• 17:42Speaker 02

  You know what I mean?

• 17:44Speaker 01

  And I'd have no qualms with it at all. In my vain effort to come across as nonchalant, I even ordered the necessary equipment that night and emotionally prepped for the next few days.

• 17:54Speaker 02

  Amazon, bless them. Next day delivery. Emergency packing, done. Yeah.

• 18:01Speaker 01

  You can probably get that on Zap now, to be honest. They've got loads of stuff on there.

• 18:05Speaker 02

  I'll make something for the kitchen utensil cupboards.

• 18:09Speaker 02

  With a batch of juice.

• 18:10Speaker 01

  You don't want it to break mid-peg. On the night, that sounds like I peg. I've never done it, I swear. Never know, I might do in the future. On the night in question, we needed a few drinks to loosen up, but when it came down to it, it was really something we could only manage with the lights very low. Embarrassment was high, confidence and trust were tested and lube was aplenty. Let me repeat that important tip. Lube was aplenty.

• 18:35Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:36Speaker 01

  Afterwards, I nipped the lube, sit in the dark and stripped off, leaving all equipment there to be dealt with in the morning. I was absolutely wrecked. Turns out the male hip thrust is not something the female pelvis is built for.

• 18:48Speaker 02

  Hold on, hold on. I need to, I need to, I need to understand that. That met, sorry, read that line to me again.

• 18:57Speaker 01

  I was absolutely wrecked. Turns out the male hip thrust is not something the female pelvis is built for.

• 19:02Speaker 02

  Okay, I, cause I'm, I'm not good with logistics. I'm not good with logistics. So she's thrusting it and it's not, she's not thrusting hard enough. Is that it?

• 19:10Speaker 01

  No, she was just tired from the thrusting.

• 19:13Speaker 03

  She's knackered.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  I'm, okay. Yeah. Got it in my head. Go.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  Okay. Next morning I woke up very smug. I was obviously such a cool girlfriend. This man had not only trusted me with his fantasy, but allowed himself to be so vulnerable with me. I was determined to continue the morning casually and not make a big deal of the whole experience. Bleary eyed, I went to the bathroom, pa- pausing to try process the brown handprint on my white bathroom door. As I raised my hand up to assess it, I was shocked and disturbed to see how brown my hand was also. To the, to such an extent, I turned back to the bed to check if my boyfriend still had his intestine intact. Such was the extent of despair.

• 19:59Speaker 02

  Oh God, yeah. Yeah. Listen, you fuck around, you find out. Do you know what I mean?

• 20:03Speaker 03

  Well.

• 20:04Speaker 02

  Like.

• 20:04Speaker 03

  This is where we've got to stay strapped in.

• 20:06Speaker 02

  Okay, fine. Okay.

• 20:08Speaker 01

  Oh. To my absolute horror, I saw what can only be described as a murder scene on the bed. Except it wasn't red, it was brown. And yet the smell was extremely pleasant.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 20:22Speaker 01

  Uh, uh, going over to the brown smeared locker drawer, I realised to my horror that the large bottle of lube remained intact, but my ultra dark, bare by folk hand bottle.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  Desperate.

• 20:48Speaker 01

  Oh my god.

• 20:53Speaker 02

  Oh my god.

• 20:56Speaker 01

  My. Erasing from his slumber after a hard night of it, my boyfriend sat up to the image of me naked with slashes of dark brown across my tummy and thighs, the bed sheets mingled into a brown frenzy and his poor arse. Well, let's just say he didn't expose himself for a considerable length of time, but at least the fade was even and there wasn't a streak to be seen.

• 21:22Speaker 01

  Needless to say, that was the end of the kink pursuits, but on occasion I like to slap on some Bear by Vogue just as a micro power trip and laugh hysterically as I do it. So thank you Vogue for the multifaceted product. I hope I made you proud. Have you not seen the face mist? That is shaped like a phallic. You could, you didn't even need to go.

• 21:44Speaker 02

  I have it.

• 21:45Speaker 01

  You could have used the tan, the ultra dark and the phallic face mist. Oh my god, I have to send it to my business partner.

• 21:52Speaker 03

  I can't believe I'm saying this, but I feel like we have to issue a warning. Don't insert Bear by Vogue face mist into yourself. Please don't do that.

• 22:02Speaker 02

  Jo, it's you or you to tell women what they can do with Vogue's face mist.

• 22:06Speaker 03

  I'm just saying we're not recommending you do it.

• 22:08Speaker 02

  Don't, don't mansplain to them how they can get off.

• 22:11Speaker 03

  Put whatever you want in there. That's fine.

• 22:13Speaker 02

  Is there, is there any way I could put this on a trust pilot or something?

• 22:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, is it, is it, it can be used as lube. While not recommended, it has been known to be used.

• 22:27Speaker 01

  Many uses.

• 22:28Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:29Speaker 03

  Does Bear by Vogue come with, does it say not for internal use?

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Well, I think that's kind of self-explanatory when you like.

• 22:37Speaker 02

  Be surprised.

• 22:39Speaker 01

  Well, I am surprised.

• 22:42Speaker 01

  Oh, it does come out of your sheets by the way, so don't worry about that.

• 22:44Speaker 03

  Well done. Fantastic.

• 22:46Speaker 01

  It's grand. You're welcome.

• 22:48Speaker 03

  What a great email. Thank you.

• 22:50Speaker 01

  And aren't you lucky it wasn't the other thing? That wouldn't have been great. Now it could have been worse.

• 22:54Speaker 03

  I think you just need to send this woman some Bear by Vogue.

• 22:58Speaker 01

  I will send her some new ultra dark, Jo. You have to get her, you have to get her dressed. I don't, I don't even need to know her name. I won't know your name. Don't worry. I know it's probably a personal, a personal topic. He's shared, it's kindly shared with so many people. Oh, fair play to you for doing the pegging. Fair play. Pat yourself on the back.

• 23:16Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. I mean, it is kind to take people's needs on like that, you know?

• 23:25Speaker 01

  I don't know if I, yeah, I don't know if I'd, I'd have that.

• 23:27Speaker 02

  I would. I did.

• 23:28Speaker 01

  Would you do? Would you do pegging?

• 23:30Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah. If someone I was madly in love with.

• 23:33Speaker 01

  That sounds like a woman who has done pegging.

• 23:35Speaker 02

  No, no. But if someone I was madly in love with was like, I'd be like, yeah, I'm not going to write anything off. Do you know what I mean? And he can tap my back while we're at it.

• 23:46Speaker 02

  Yeah. Cause I don't have anyone to tap my back at the moment, which is a real loss for me. Yeah.

• 23:52Speaker 01

  Thank you so much for that email. Really, and truly thank you.

• 23:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. And well done again.

• 23:57Speaker 01

  Wonderful. Yeah. Well done. You should be proud of yourself.

• 24:00Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:00Speaker 01

  What a sexual deviant you are. I love that for you.

• 24:05Speaker 02

  A streak free sexual deviant. I, I think pegging is actually more common than we think it is.

• 24:13Speaker 02

  I was on TikTok yesterday on my day of glory and there was a couple talking, a stray couple talking about pegging. And people were accusing him of being gay. And she's like, he's not gay. I'm a woman. He just likes to get pegged. It doesn't mean he's gay. You know?

• 24:30Speaker 01

  And listen, everyone has a different.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  Different strokes, different folks.

• 24:33Speaker 01

  Yes. Yes.

• 24:34Speaker 02

  Different tan lines.

• 24:37Speaker 02

  Could you?

• 24:38Speaker 01

  Could you say that?

• 24:39Speaker 02

  I think that's really how that works.

• 24:42Speaker 01

  No, no, it's 2025. Fuck it. You can say anything you want.

• 24:45Speaker 02

  That's like me saying, oh, Jeffrey Dahmer. She's like, you could say I'm a serial killer. I'm not, but you could say it. Well, yes.

• 24:50Speaker 01

  Joanna McNally, if I want to say I'm a, if I want to say I'm a pegger, I'm a pegger.

• 24:55Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 24:55Speaker 01

  Whatever you want, mate.

• 24:56Speaker 02

  Whatever you want, Vogue. You're right.

• 24:59Speaker 01

  Thank you.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Thank you.

• 25:02Speaker 02

  That's it for the bonus. Thanks, Amelia, for listening. I've been Joanne McNally. She remains to be Vogue Williams. Pegger extraordinaire, allegedly.

• 25:10Speaker 01

  Thank you. Peggy Williams.

• 25:11Speaker 02

  Peggy Williams.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  And we would recommend when using bear by lube, bear by lube.

• 25:23Speaker 02

  Ah, that's so funny. Yeah.

• 25:27Speaker 01

  I sense a name change.

• 25:29Speaker 02

  A bear balloon. We'd recommend using a tanning mesh rather than a pegging instrument. But look, that's just me.

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