MTGM EXTRA! "He doesn't want me to visit."

It's the last episode of 2024 from Vogue & Joanne, but don't worry - they never leave you for long. This week, they look ahead to their resolutions for 2025 and Vogue throws away a belly button. If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com For more information about Joanne's gigs, just visit www.joannemcnally.com This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

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  This is a Global Player original podcast.

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  Hello and welcome to the bonus episode of My Therapist Ghosted Me.

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  My therapist ghosted me.

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  MTGM.

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  Pod.

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  At gmail dot com.

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  We really didn't think of the, the, um, the length of the name when we.

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  No, no.

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  Named the podcast, or we didn't.

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  Well, we didn't think anything was gonna, but we thought we were going in for a little jolly to have a little chat once or twice and then that was gonna be it. We weren't really considering we were gonna still be doing this three years down the line.

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  I know. We should have a party.

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  We had a party. Remember the party?

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  Oh, that's Christmas. That's totally different.

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  What tea? Uh, a little bit at the front, yeah.

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  Poor tea. He's getting his hair cut and he's coming in asking if I, if I want any more off.

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  Yes, mushroom head. Go back in there.

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  My mother used to keep a lock of my first haircut in, and the hair was very blonde and stringy. Maybe just didn't age well, uh, but, or maybe she was dying it as a child, I don't know. But she used to keep it in a little box and then she got tired of it and I was like, she was like, do you want that? I was like, eh, okay. So then I kept. Then I kept a lock of my own hair because she just got bored of it.

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  Until it lasted. Well, do you know what I just threw out, honestly, three days ago? I don't know whose it was, but it was someone's belly button. Just chucked it out, you know, and yeah, yeah, yeah, I know. I found it. I'm sorry. I did.

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  Sorry, that took me way too long to connect the fact that it was one of your children's belly buttons. I genuinely was like, what?

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  One of my ex's.

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  Who left that there? Probably mine. I'm always leaving things, please. It wasn't mine.

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  I came across your belly button the other day. It's gone very rotten and scabby looking, so I threw it in the bin. Imagine like, what did I, did I think that that was gonna be a nice sentimental gift to give one of the kids? Like, hang on kids, wait, I just, I haven't given you everything. Here's your belly button, like scum.

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  Honestly.

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  Why not a belly button? We keep their teeth and their hairs and stuff.

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  I'm not doing any of that bullshit. I'm not keeping anyone's teeth. It's weird. It's weird. My mum kept Alexander's teeth. Only Ray's teeth were kept, obviously, because he's the favourite child.

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  Who?

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  Ray. My mum calls him Ray.

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  Oh, sorry, yeah.

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  The Ray, Ray of sunshine.

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  Roger, I like that.

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. So Ray's teeth are all there.

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  I've met Alzo. He's a nice guy, but I mean, I don't know if I'd call him, I don't know if I'd go so far as to connect him to sunshine, but there you go. Maybe he hauls back in my company more. Maybe he's beaming elsewhere.

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  Alzo, do you know, Alzo, I think Alzo's moved out and hasn't told us.

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  Really?

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  I've just said, are you coming home today? And he sent me, he's just sent me a pin drop and it's 333 miles away, seven and a half hours drive. He's up in North Berwick in Scotland. He's getting us ready for when he actually does move out, which is pretty soon, I think.

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  Yeah. Let Ray do what he needs to do. I mean, he's practically in his 40s at this stage, is he?

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  Yeah, no, he's nearly 30, 30 and Jan.

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  Yeah, like, grow up, Ray, come on. It's time to move out of your sister's basement. We all did our stint there. It's, it's time to move on.

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  I just tell you something. I am ready to move out of my own home. I feel like, I feel overwhelmed in this house. It's probably because I have been here for a solid week I've been in this house. And now I'm just like, get me out of this house. Like, I can't stand being here anymore. The kids are just so loud. You can't get away from it ever. It's just like you're in this like soup of noise constantly. I need a house where I can hide. I need a hiding place.

• 3:45Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah. I can understand that. I've been in your home and agreed. There definitely, you need some sort of panic room that you can just retreat into for the afternoon. And it needs to be soundproof because they can smell you. Like, I've seen them find us in bedrooms because they can smell Vogue through the walls. They can smell the milk or whatever. I don't know if that's still a thing, but they can, they find us.

• 4:07Speaker 01

  They know where you are and they will find you down. Yeah.

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  They're not looking for me. Oh, do you know what would be a nice thing to do for the pod?

• 4:16Speaker 01

  What?

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  Set out your goals for 2025.

• 4:21Speaker 01

  I mean, you can't just land that with us now. It's like, it's a quarter to 10 on a Friday morning. It's Friday the 13th.

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  Oh, sorry. I thought you might have had something front of mind. That's fine.

• 4:32Speaker 01

  I would like to next week for the main episode, though.

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  I would do. I thought we're finished.

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  No, we're finished now.

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  Oh.

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  Yeah.

• 4:38Speaker 01

  Oh crap, I have to think of some go- tell me your goals first then.

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  Okay, so I'm saying this for accountability. By the end of 2025, I obviously need a fresh air of stand-up. Penilephile will be written and out in the road, which is fine. That's obviously very doable. And I want to buy a house.

• 4:58Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I really think that's a good goal. Yeah.

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  If I have not bought a house by this time next year, intervene. I need to get my shit together and buy a home. That's it. I've said it now. Accountability. I don't believe in manifestation. I think that's horse shit, but I'm saying it anyway. So maybe I do.

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  You're gonna move house. No, you're gonna move house. I'm, I'm gonna be out of this house.

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  Mm-hmm.

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  Definitely. I am going to, I want to be doing something with my degrees. Like, I really enjoy stuff to do with architecture, stuff to do with buildings. I want to be doing something to do with that.

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  Maybe just frame them. Frame them. That's enough.

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  Yeah.

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  I'll frame them. Put them on the wall. Yeah.

• 5:44Speaker 01

  Possibly, possibly. And I want, um, and I would like my books to be out and lots of people have pre-ordered us and bought us.

• 5:54Speaker 00

  Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 5:55Speaker 01

  But you can preorder and buy us, yes.

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  But this stage, they'll have, they'll have long read us. Like, if this is, if this is.

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  In a whole year, yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  Yeah.

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  I mean, if they're pre-ordering it at this stage, you need to fire your marketing team.

• 6:07Speaker 01

  Oh, my God. I was, yeah, yeah, yeah. I was on with, I posted this thing about the book yesterday about when I wanted to be in a girl band. And John Boyne, you know, the author John Boyne, he wrote back and he was like, I auditioned for a boy band in the 90s as well. Music's lost was hope's literature, was I hope literature stayed.

• 6:29Speaker 00

  Oh, my God, I would never have seen John Boyne in a boy band. Wild to have it.

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  Isn't he, and he's such an, he's one of my all time favorite authors. I absolutely love his books. But imagine he hadn't, imagine he had been in a boy band and just had gone down that route and hadn't written. And then we wouldn't have all of his, we wouldn't have the Hearts and Visible Furies. We wouldn't have the Boy in Striped Pajamas. Like, all of his books are so incredible to think that you wouldn't have those masterpieces.

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  I wonder, I bet there's a ton of people who are, who failed pop band auditions, who went on to do, I was gonna say more valuable things. That's not fair.

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  I would say the music industry lost out by not giving me a spot in a, in a girl band. Actually, if you're asking me, I think I would have done a fantastic job.

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  Yeah, yeah. Yeah, I could see even All Saints. That was, All Saints were kind of the, they were the coolest ones. Yeah. You've got an Appleton vibe to your face.

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  I used to stand at the back of auditions and I'd make it like near enough to the end. And I'd just stand there kind of bopping around at the back, just kind of hoping nobody would notice me. But I'd be so shit.

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  It did seem like there was a stage, it seemed like a kind of a, there was such, there was such an explosion of them making bands. That it felt like there was a lot of opportunity there. Speaking of books, I thought that I'd, we love a good book recommendation and I'm reading a very good book at the moment. If anyone's looking for a book rack over Christmas.

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  Yeah.

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  It's called All Forests by Miranda July.

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  What's it about?

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  It was recommended to me, Annie Mack actually recommended it to me. I think it's about, I think it's going to be about the menopause. But at the moment, it's about a woman who is going on a road trip to kind of hide from her family. Not just, not completely dissimilar to something you were saying earlier about.

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  Can I join her? Has she any space in the car?

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  And it's very good and it's very funny and I feel it will be deliciously dark in places and it's just a really good book.

• 8:35Speaker 01

  I really need to get back into reading, I haven't read, but you know what I have ready to go and you've probably read it, you might have read it as well, Jo, The Kite Runner. Is it, is it amazing?

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  It's really good. That had a big kind of surge. Do you know what though? I don't think I actually finished it.

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  Oh, well, I bothered starting or will I put it away?

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  Ah, yeah, well, my attention span is, there's not a lot gets through to the end, but.

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  I try, I keep dragging this, I've dragged this around with me everywhere, right? Of Mice and Men, because I'm like, I'll read it and I'll read it. Everyone says it's brilliant. I just can't bring myself to open the book. I can't do it. I don't know why. It's not even big, but I'm just like, oh, sounds crap. And I know it's not going to be crap because like Louisa, my manager, brought me loads of really good books and she's like, you have to read these books. So I'm going to keep dragging it around with me, but I don't know if I should start that or The Kite Runner.

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  You'll crack it and say, do you know what I bought the other day? And this is real, like aspirational ideas of what I'll read, rather than the reality of what I'll read.

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  I love this. I'm desperate to read Of Mice and Men. I just, it's already looked so battered. Look.

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  I bought A Christmas Carol by Charles Dickens.

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  I was like, yeah, that'd be lovely now. I bought it the other day. I said, that'd be lovely now over Christmas now, read Dickens. I have a little my hoe.

• 9:51Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'm going to pop down my local fucking WH Smith and grab some Shakespeare as well.

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  Going to finish it off with War and Peace, just for New Year's.

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  I might read, what's that thing called? Little Sisters? Is that what they're called? Little Women, Little Women.

• 10:09Speaker 01

  That'd be a nice, nice one over Christmas.

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  I read Tiny Sisters, that classic. I loved, I loved it. I absolutely loved it. I'm actually, do you know what more accountability on the pod? I'm going to have read Dickens by Christmas 2027. Okay, this is going in the line. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 10:25Speaker 01

  2027. I don't know what else I want from Christmas. What, what else should I? I just, you know, I just want a more relaxed life, I think. Slower, I wanna be slower paced life. I reckon that's what's coming for me.

• 10:39Speaker 00

  Well, like, I, I, I agree with you. I think that's necessary. And do you know who can do that for you?

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  Me.

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  Exactly. Ramaste. Yeah.

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  Oh, yeah.

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  Nice.

• 10:51Speaker 00

  Ah, thank you. A little Buddhist twist there.

• 10:55Speaker 01

  Oh, I like what you did there. I like it a lot.

• 11:07Speaker 00

  Jo, should we ask, should we ask just for inclusivity and so that we don't look completely sexist? Should we ask, Jo, has he any hopes and dreams or are we just power on?

• 11:17Speaker 01

  Well, I'm actually just have to pop out for a second just to make sure his hair is okay. Give me one sec, sorry, because he's.

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  I'll get this out of the way while you're gone. Jo, is there anything?

• 11:27Speaker 02

  Well, two years ago, I had a knee operation. I couldn't really run before then and it's been two years for it to settle in. I'd like to run longer than like how long you run for a bus without like coughing my lungs onto the pavement.

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  Yeah.

• 11:40Speaker 01

  Nice. I, I have not exercised in a week. I cannot wait to start exercising again. I'm gonna start on, on Sunday. Why don't you start on Sunday, Jo? No time like the present. Let's start together.

• 11:52Speaker 02

  Would we start pre-Christmas? I don't know.

• 11:54Speaker 01

  Yeah, we would start pre-Christmas.

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  If I was you now, I wouldn't just start normally running. I'd be getting like weighted jackets and all and like, I'd be getting like the most expensive garment you can find. Like, and I'd be doing all that instead of just getting out and just getting it, getting it done.

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  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

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  Like, oh, can't get going now until I know my HRV and all, you know, blah, blah, blah. I procrastinate with technology and weighted things, basically.

• 12:17Speaker 01

  How's the garment going?

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  Really good, actually.

• 12:20Speaker 01

  What's the sleeve? What's the sleeve?

• 12:22Speaker 00

  Do you know what? I'm re, I'm, again, learning and growing.

• 12:28Speaker 00

  Turns out I have much better sleep when I'm not listening to murder documentaries all night. Dun dun dun. So I'm gonna really try, that's another goal. I'm gonna try and stop listening to shit when I fall asleep. Cause I just need to get okay with my own thoughts.

• 12:43Speaker 01

  Yeah.

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  Now, more than you saying no to some work, I need to just get okay with my own thoughts. Instead of packing my brain with other people's voices all day and all night. It's not, it's not always murder now. I shouldn't really say that. Sometimes it's other shit. But it just, because your brain is constantly always tuned in to that voice. So I use it for company. But I either need to start dating more or just somehow figure out how to fall asleep to silence. Because it's affecting my sleep quality, Vogue, and suddenly this is important to me.

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  What's your sleep? Is your sleep really like 10 hours a night?

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  Are you ready for your morning report?

• 13:21Speaker 01

  Yes, we are ready for Joan's morning report.

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  Fifty-two hours of recovery.

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  From what? I have no idea. I don't know what I'm recovering from.

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  Yeah.

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  I don't know what I'm recovering from. A bad date, a fucking gym session? I have no idea. It just constantly telling me I'm recovering from something, doesn't tell me what. Six hours, forty-one sleep.

• 13:47Speaker 01

  Oh, that's not great.

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  Shorter than ideal, plenty of deep, it says.

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  There you go.

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  HRV status, forty-five minutes last night. Is that like how long I'm dead? What's HRV?

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  Heart rate, your heart rate variability.

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  Don't know what that means either. Forty-five. And now it just says, rise and shine, Joan.

• 14:08Speaker 01

  Well, I got nine hours and 12 minutes sleep last night, but that's because I'm not fully 100% better.

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  Heart rate sixty, sorry, I'm still, I'm still reading my stats here. Heart rate sixty-seven, don't know what that means. Sleep score, I have a sleep score.

• 14:24Speaker 01

  Oh god, we shouldn't have been asking, we shouldn't have asked, maybe.

• 14:26Speaker 02

  What box have you opened? This is a Pandora's box.

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  Yeah, I know.

• 14:29Speaker 00

  I've done 286 steps already today. Oh my god, sit the fuck down, Joan, that's too much.

• 14:37Speaker 02

  Take the load off, mate.

• 14:38Speaker 00

  I'm gonna be too fit, that's the problem, A, is the...

• 14:45Speaker 01

  Girls, I need your help. My boyfriend of two years left to go and spend a few months in Australia. He's been out there for six weeks and has now dropped a bombshell that he might want to break up with me.

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  Yeah.

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  I was supposed to be going out there in February to celebrate my 30th birthday with him and then we were going to come home together. Now he's saying that he wants to stay out there until June. He's having such a different life with no responsibility and doesn't want me to go visit anymore. Oh.

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  I asked him if there's anything wrong with our relationship. He said no. Asked if he feels like he's missing out because he's in a relationship while out there. He said no. I asked him if he thinks we'd have fun together out there. He said yes. I asked him if he still loves me. He said yes. So what's the problem?

• 15:30Speaker 01

  There has been the first relationship I've ever been in where everything has gone right and we've only got closer and stronger. Normally I get the ick. Do I need to cut ties and focus on myself and my hinge profile or do I fight and just book a flight and go out there no matter what he says? Need your honesty. Love the pod. You bring me joy every week. Oh, that's pretty tough now.

• 15:51Speaker 00

  Well, my gut is saying leave him off. Like you can't, there's no point. I've done exactly that exact, exact, exactly thing. I went out, I was going out with someone at the time. I was bawling, crying, leaving him. For the first week, I was on the phone to him every night. And then, you're living, you're just, you're getting on with your new life. You're meeting new people.

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  Yeah.

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  It's all hot out there and you're off the beach and you're swimming and you're working and you're meeting new people all the time. And then I didn't want him, didn't want to go out with him anymore. I didn't want him to come out. He was supposed to come out. I told him I didn't want him to come out. He came out anyway.

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  Oh, God.

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  Through his own work. And I was, I'm gonna say allergic. I was like, oh God.

• 16:34Speaker 01

  Oh, no.

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  I know. And he was like, are you not even gonna meet me? Are you not even gonna meet me? And I'm sure I'd had 19 boyfriends since I'd seen him last. And then I did go to me. I've actually, I don't know if this is the right story to tell because I did go to meet him and then fell in love with him again. And then he moved, he stayed in Australia with me.

• 16:52Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 16:53Speaker 00

  And I moved out from the girls and moved in with him. And then we came home to Ireland together and broke up anyway. My point is, I'm very much out of sight, out of mind.

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  Yeah.

• 17:05Speaker 00

  If someone operates like that, you just have to accept it and be like, okay, the chances are when people are young, when they travel, they have a whole different lifestyle, they're meeting new people all the time. That's just what happens. They move on, they move into a different, a different way of thinking.

• 17:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, I probably wouldn't be chasing somebody across the world if they don't want you to go out.

• 17:26Speaker 00

  You've got to leave them.

• 17:27Speaker 01

  You just show up, you just, you have to try and keep a little bit of your dignity and just, as hard as it is, just don't go out there.

• 17:35Speaker 00

  You can't. Someone, I read something recently, they were saying, if you, if you, if you chase long enough, you end up getting dragged. Like, yeah, if something is pulling away, just let it go. And what I will say is, if you hold your ground and be like, okay, fine, do your thing. And say the chances of him coming back are quite high. Actually, if that's what you want, maybe you don't, I don't know. Maybe by the time he comes home, you'll have moved on and you don't care. But I think it's when people, when you want to leave something, if people try and keep you in it, which is your natural instinct is to try and keep them. They want out more because they're pressured. They're like, oh God. If you just go, okay, if you just swallow it and pretend, you're like, okay, that's fine. I respect your decision. I don't want you to be in anything you don't want to be in.

• 18:20Speaker 00

  I want to be with somebody who really wants to be with me. Let them fly off. Guarantee, I swear to God, and this is probably not the right message. I guarantee they'll probably come back. That's been my experience, I don't know.

• 18:31Speaker 01

  You have to let them come back on their own. You can't chase them down.

• 18:34Speaker 00

  Yeah, fuck that. No. You go travelling. If you're free to go to Australia, honestly, if you were due to go to Australia, use that money, go to Bali with your mates or something, do something else.

• 18:44Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 18:45Speaker 00

  Live your own life. Come to Cape Town.

• 18:48Speaker 01

  Go to Cape Town with your aunt, go for it.

• 18:51Speaker 00

  Yeah.

• 18:55Speaker 00

  A parting message. Thank you so much, everyone who was listening during the year and sent mails and sent DMs. And we appreciate all of you. Thank you so much.

• 19:04Speaker 01

  We do. We've had a lovely year with your listenership. Thank you.

• 19:07Speaker 00

  We've had a lovely year with your listenership.

• 19:09Speaker 01

  Yes. I've thoroughly enjoyed ourselves.

• 19:13Speaker 00

  We get so many nice messages and they're always lovely to read and we really appreciate them.

• 19:16Speaker 01

  And we think you're deadly. Yeah, we think you're deadly. Thank you for listening.

• 19:19Speaker 00

  We don't say thank you enough, so thank you. Thank you. Thank you to you and yours. Thank you. Also, before we go, Big Mouth is available on pre-sale, Vogue's book, which will be out in May. And you can apply for your pre-sale. No, you can buy pre-, you can sign up. What, how does it work?

• 19:37Speaker 01

  It's the link in my bio. There's a pre-sale link, so you can buy the book on pre-sale if you so wish to buy it. And also, Penophile is also a fun sale, isn't it, Joanne? Joanne is going-

• 19:47Speaker 00

  Thank you, Vogue.

• 19:48Speaker 01

  All over the UK and Ireland. She's added her quirk dates. It's gonna be a great one. I obviously have secured my tickets.

• 19:54Speaker 00

  You haven't, do you?

• 19:55Speaker 01

  Yes, you can too.

• 19:56Speaker 00

  Me and Oasis, that's the only ticket she's secured for 2025. I'm very honoured.

• 20:01Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's all I need. What else would I be going to?

• 20:04Speaker 00

  I know. And she has been charged for both concerts. That's what my mother calls my stand-up concert.

• 20:10Speaker 01

  Yeah, I did find that email unusual that I got from MCD requesting the money for the tickets for your concerts. Oh, she will pay for this.

• 20:19Speaker 00

  I said, put her in the box, charge her full whack.

• 20:24Speaker 01

  Thank you so much, everyone. Have the best Christmas and a great New Year and you're deadly.

• 20:28Speaker 00

  Happy Christmas. We love you, Jo. Do you have anything to say?

• 20:32Speaker 02

  I love them too.

• 20:34Speaker 01

  We love you.

• 20:35Speaker 00

  Okay, so we'll see you in January.

• 20:37Speaker 01

  See you in January, everyone.

• 20:38Speaker 00

  Jingle bells, jingle bells.

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