MORE Christmas Presents, Leopard Print & Ultra Dark Tan

There was a small delay this week, whilst Vogue was so ill she couldn't get out of bed. She rallied in the end and it was back to business. WHAT has happened with Barry & Sabrina, why are people mad for the hot assassin and will Joanne's Christmas present war ever end? If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] Please review Global's Privacy Policy: global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit: www.mytherapistghostedme.com For more information about Joanne's gigs, visit: www.joannemcnally.com This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

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  This is a Global Player original podcast.

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  Hello and welcome to my therapist ghosted meet with me, Joanne McNally and

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  me, Vogue Williams.

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  Before we start, Vogue.

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  Yeah.

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  What do you think? Do you love this?

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  Oh, wow.

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  It's yours. Happy Christmas.

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  Shut up. Is that really mine?

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  Yeah, I got a smashing one. Look.

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  Oh my God.

• 0:45Speaker 01

  Joey, I didn't get you one. Vogue, look, it's a North Face.

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  Description. Let's have a description.

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  I know, I know, because it is obviously a podcast. It's a North Face leopard print jacket, which I paid full whack for.

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  Well, absolutely.

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  Happy Christmas to us.

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  Thrilled. And I'm, I'm mortified with the present I sent you home with today.

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  Really? I, I haven't opened it yet. Will I open it now on camera? Will I open it now?

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  Open it on camera. It's, it's very you, but it's not as, it's the thought that counts.

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  Well, not really, Vogue, because this is the second present I have you. The other, the other present is that really cool cartoon about your one in the first class.

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  I cannot believe she's being so generous. I am shocketh.

• 1:28Speaker 01

  Well, you know, I'm just doing it to fuck with you. You know that.

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  Oh my God, I'm absolutely, it's perfect.

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  Hold on, let me get my tiny present. You got me. Hold on.

• 1:38Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I'm mortified. I don't want her to open it now and she's going to do it in front of me as well. Uh oh.

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  I found them. I found them. It took me a while because they're so small, but I found them.

• 1:48Speaker 02

  Okay, okay. Well, I mean, I just saw them and I thought of you.

• 1:53Speaker 01

  I don't know. Are they just, is that it? They're just the little tiny glasses?

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  They're wine glasses.

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  And sorry, Vogue, I'm not being bad, but what on earth about me made you think I needed wine glasses?

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  Sorry, Joanne, they are green and purple.

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  This is what Christmas is about.

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  Shut up, Jo.

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  And I would not like to tell you they were not cheap.

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  Really? Because they look it.

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  Well, they were not cheap.

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  Sorry. Did you know they were that tiny?

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  No.

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  Okay, look, in the end, these jackets were on sale, so don't feel too bad about it. There was fifty quid off them.

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  Only fifty quid off them. North Face are so expensive. I wouldn't even go near North Face.

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  I really treated you, but I'll know not to do that in future.

• 2:38Speaker 02

  Well, let's just put it, let's put it this way. I bought you a present for your birthday last year and you didn't buy me a present for my birthday this year.

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  It's not a competition, Vogue.

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  No, yeah, you're right. You're right. You're right.

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  I know it is. That's why I was really generous this year because I felt bad because I did owe you a couple of presents. I just opened a second. Oh, yeah, it's the same tiny wine glass.

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  Yeah, they're the same wine glasses. They were not cheap.

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  Jesus Christ.

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  I'll tell you how much I paid for them.

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  I knew.

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  We can't, we can't send them back now. Look at her shredding the box.

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  They're just, it's more, they're so tiny. This feels like an intervention, if I'm being honest. A very cheap one.

• 3:18Speaker 02

  I was trolling you because of all the wines you keep getting served that are very small wines, but I thought that if you were having wine in your own home, you wouldn't mind having a smaller wine. It really is like a shot glass.

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  Sometimes it's like you know me intimately and sometimes it's like you don't know me at all. You think I want to reduce my drink wine size in my own home where no one can see how large my pores are. No, no, no.

• 3:38Speaker 02

  Wait till I, wait till I show you the way I was served those glasses. And they have them on those ads.

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  You got screwed.

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  I got fucking screwed.

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  I've seen sunglasses bigger than these.

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  Well, if you hadn't ripped them open like that, what are you going to do with them now?

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  I'm going to have to melt it down into one normal sized wine glass. Look how tiny they are.

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  Oh, great. Great. Now they're on sale. Great.

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  Oh, God. This is why I need a little girl in my life, a little baby girl.

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  Guess how much I spent on them? Eighty quid.

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  Are you serious?

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  Eighty quid I spent on those glasses.

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  I think that was nice.

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  Sorry. Wait till you see how gorgeous they look in the picture.

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  Oh, they're lovely in the photo.

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  Oh, I feel absolutely.

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  Do you want to get them back in that box now? I'm sorry, I can't accept it.

• 4:28Speaker 01

  No, sorry, I'm only teasing. If anything, I have wanted a smaller wine glass. I have been looking for something more petite than what I'm currently using. So I actually really do appreciate it. And also, I do love the colour scheme. Do you know what I use them for?

• 4:41Speaker 02

  There's no point, there's no point in lying.

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  If I ever get contacts, I'll use them to soak. Because the contacts, you have to soak them overnight.

• 4:48Speaker 02

  Great idea, yeah, great idea. Eighty pounds for your contacts to soak, yeah.

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  Or an egg cup, maybe. That's how small they are.

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  That is fucking daylight robbery. I am sorry, but like, I feel like emailing that company and being like, are you joking? And my friend's such a pile of shit, she ripped the boxes up and so we can't send them back. But I'd just like you to know, you're a liar.

• 5:08Speaker 01

  I don't have a delicate hand. But you know what? So I did an unboxing of this, John Lewis sent me, you know, one of these kind of beauty advent calendar things where every day is like a beauty product? And someone actually messaged me after I did, because you know, there's, I usually, I like to support small businesses, but sometimes I'll happily support large ones and tag them, because I love that stuff. And so I messaged going, that is the most violent unboxing. And I was like, I know, I looked back, I was like, it was quite aggressive. Like I grab and tear and rip and stuff. I'm quite feral with presents, actually.

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  As you were in my house today, you'll have seen, I told Svenny, he was like, I'd like to get you something smung up for Christmas, because he's got me my big Christmas present, because I basically wanted my Christmas and birthday presents together, because there was a ring that I wanted.

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  Okay.

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  And so he got me that and he's like, I need to get you like a couple of little bits. And I was like, go into Ghani and just like, get me a top or something.

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  Yeah.

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  He went into Ghani and like, it's really nice of him, but like, I haven't even gone through the stuff. Like those three bags, he came back with three bags. He's gotten me a faux leopard jacket, he's gotten me leopard knee-high boots, he's gotten me a leopard bag, he also got me a leopard jumper and two pairs of leopard jeans. And I'm like, do you think I'm fucking Cat Slater? Like, why are you bringing all this leopard stuff home? Like, three bags of leopard are sitting over there. I was like, I can't have that much leopard.

• 6:31Speaker 01

  Well, and now I've just bought you a leopard. You're just, you're just giving out of my leopard, I'm, I'm sitting here in your leopard print present.

• 6:42Speaker 01

  You've no one to blame but yourself, Vogue. They're the vibes you put out. They're the vibes.

• 6:47Speaker 02

  I've just put out leopard, that's all I can wear from now on. Only, it's just leopard. Everyone's just buying me leopards.

• 6:54Speaker 01

  That's, I have to say, I think leopard print has definitely had its day. And I know, again, I am sitting here in a leopard print raincoat, but I, this kind of feels a bit cooler because it's North Face, but I, I am kind of, I am done with leopard print. It's like colots. Things just run its course and then I want to move on.

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  Did you ever wear a pair of colots? I cannot imagine you in a pair of colots.

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  Back in the day, when, when things were, when colots were piping hot, I, yeah, I, I spent on colots. Of course I did. I'm, I'm, I was a fashion child. I, I liked fashion.

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  Oh, I'm talking about like, like I have colots in my wardrobe now that like I was wearing a few years ago, hot pink colots that I can't get rid of.

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  No, no, no, not as an adult. I've never worn colots as an adult. They just look unfinished really, don't they?

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  I love a colot. Well, they just look like my trousers don't fit.

• 7:37Speaker 01

  Exactly. One woman's normal pantaloon is Vogue's colot.

• 7:41Speaker 02

  Precisely. A little pedal pusher is all I, is all I get.

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  Now tell us.

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  Guys, honestly, I had to call the funeral directors. Everything. I was so sick.

• 7:53Speaker 01

  Vogue has been genuinely sick. Not like me and Joe sick.

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  Mortal.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  Like, I have never been so ill in my life. I'm still not better, but I am, on Saturday I got so bad that I had to go to the doctor and because I thought I had meningitis, that's how bad I was. I was like, there is no way this can be the flu. There is no way anyone can feel this bad. And it turns out it was just the flu. And I had to pay my doctor 500 quid to go and see her on a Saturday to tell me I had the flu. 500 quid.

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  Oh. My god.

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  I would have paid, I would have paid thousands, that's how sick I felt. I had to, I had to lie down on the taxi. I had to lie on the floor of the doctors when I got there, like, I couldn't walk.

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  Oh my god.

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  Yeah.

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  Five hundred, is she like, is she a royal doctor? How was she, how was she that expensive?

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  I don't know if she's a, like, I'd, I'd pay, I would have paid any money to anyone at that stage. I was waking up all night, every night, like, nine or 10 times, and I was having two baths during the night because my body was so sore, so I'd have to keep running a bath. Svenny was just like, are you gonna, are you just gonna keep doing that? Or like, will I just move room? I've never known someone try to get away from me more. He was disgusted. And then when I finally got better, I was, um, I, I put up a post and I was like, oh my god, because I, I was waiting to get my flu job because I had a cold. And the cold turned into the flu. And not everyone wants to get the flu job. Fine, I get it every year. And the two years I haven't got it, I got the, I got the flu. And I posted anyway and I was like, oh my god, I'm just so annoyed I didn't get the flu job.

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  And some woman responded to me thinking she was talking to her friend and she goes,

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  Oh no, no, no, no, no.

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  I wonder how much she got paid for that. And I was like, what? And I wrote back and I was like, got paid for what? And she goes, oh, are the pharmaceutical companies. I was, I was like,

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  Oh dear.

• 9:43Speaker 02

  Do you think the pharmaceutical companies need me to post about the flu job? You can't even get it. It's sold out everywhere.

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  I've never known you to collab with, well, like, the flu, do you know what I mean? I think, like, that's, it's an outrageous suggestion. People who don't, don't trust big pharma, and like, obviously there are issues there, but anyone who mentions anything about vaccines, jabs.

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  Oh my god, the amount of mails I got, yeah, people were like, oh yeah, like, the flu job is gonna, and I'm like, okay, listen, I'm not telling you to get the flu job, but you will, I am gonna be in that queue, I'm gonna be battering away all the old people come September and say, I'm skipping you.

• 10:21Speaker 01

  Yeah, I'll inject myself. I actually have to say, I've never had the flu job, and that is only from lack of knowing it was there, or that lack of knowing that, I thought it was kind of for older people. I didn't know people our age were getting the flu job, really.

• 10:37Speaker 02

  I know. Yeah, loads of people get it. Like, I'm telling you, no one, you do not want to get this flu. I thought it was the end for me. John, you left here today. I had to go for another nap.

• 10:48Speaker 01

  Well, when we, Chris, when we recorded the last episode before Christmas party and I was scantily clad in a beautiful River Island chainmail gold top that was donated to me years ago by Vogue, actually. And Vogue was, yeah, that was yours originally. And Vogue was wearing a jacket. Do you remember, you were like, it's freezing in here. And me and John, anyway, little did we know you were about to spiral into a near-death experience. So we're glad to have you back. We've missed you.

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  I'm nearly there. I'm so glad you didn't get it. I wouldn't wish the flu on anyone.

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  I've had it once and that's why I do, and I remember to this day, I think I was in, I was a teenager and I had the flu once and I was in my parents' bed because obviously they'd gone to work and I was still, I was, I was old enough to be home on my own. But I was in my mum and dad's bed and I remember my mum came home from work and she tried to hug, hug me, like, because obviously she came home from work and I was really sick. And I remember like the pain of her touching my body.

• 11:46Speaker 02

  It's just awful.

• 11:47Speaker 01

  Yeah, it's terrible. It's terrible.

• 11:48Speaker 02

  Even getting in the shower, it feels like there's nails coming at you.

• 11:52Speaker 01

  Jo, have you ever had the flu?

• 11:53Speaker 03

  Yeah, it was two days where I didn't know how many days had passed because I was so unconscious. It was like it could have been a week or it could have been an hour in the morning.

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  Lovely to be unconscious for it, though. I kept waking up, which was the problem.

• 12:11Speaker 01

  Well, honestly, it's the thought that counts. It's the thought.

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  I'm absolutely raging. I wouldn't mind. I just don't like being ripped off.

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  Don't worry, I'll re-gift them to.

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  She's gonna re-gift my, my north face as well.

• 12:21Speaker 01

  I'll re, I'll re, I'll re-gift these to, for Gigi's Kitchen or whatever, for a child.

• 12:26Speaker 02

  Perfect. Thanks a million. I'm delighted how I spent that.

• 12:30Speaker 01

  There's some things I would like to talk about with immediate effect. A lot's been happening since you were in your vegetative state.

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  Yeah.

• 12:39Speaker 01

  Barry Cogan and Sabrina Carpenter have broken up.

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  Yeah.

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  Now.

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  Did you not know that, Jo?

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  Did you not know that, Jo?

• 12:46Speaker 03

  This is my only news source.

• 12:47Speaker 02

  This is amazing that he doesn't know these things.

• 12:51Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 12:52Speaker 01

  You trust us for your news. I love that.

• 12:54Speaker 02

  I'm surprised that you're even so shocked. I wasn't, now I have to say, I wasn't as invested in them as everybody else.

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  We're all upset.

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  Yeah, if you need to take a minute, you can take a minute. I had to. I was, I gasped. That's how invested I was. I audibly gasped when I read it.

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  I don't even think I took an extra breath or anything. I just.

• 13:20Speaker 01

  I gasped. And then, so I felt really, I felt really sorry for both of them. Because obviously I know them personally and privately.

• 13:29Speaker 02

  Yeah, very upsetting time.

• 13:30Speaker 01

  Very upsetting. I know the two of them were very upset. I felt particularly sorry for Barry for some reason. I guess because he's Irish. I don't know. I have an extra layer of sensitivity towards him.

• 13:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:39Speaker 01

  And then the rumours started that he was cheating on her with some influencer. And then, of course, the internet went for him, to the point where Barry deactivated his Insta account.

• 13:50Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 13:51Speaker 01

  And then made a statement, which feels very un-Barry Keoghan, about how much abuse he was getting, how they were slagging his looks, how they were slagging his lifestyle. Like this whole, like he didn't deserve it.

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  Slagging his parenting.

• 14:04Speaker 01

  Everything. They just went for him. And he cracked. And you don't see celebrities crack that much. And I said, God, this man is under undue stress. I will tell you now, I don't know Barry. I don't know Sabrina. And I don't know your one, although your one has come out now and said she's nothing to do with it. There is no.

• 14:21Speaker 02

  She took her time doing that, didn't she?

• 14:22Speaker 01

  She did. She did, to be fair. She could have been quicker out of the traps there. I agree. She could have come out straight away. There is no way in hell Barry Keoghan cheated on Sabrina Carpenter. You don't cheat on Sabrina Carpenter. That's not happening.

• 14:36Speaker 02

  To an, to an, okay. Your one who does not believe in monogamy is now because everybody can get cheated on. It doesn't matter what you look like. Bella Hadid can get cheated on. Gigi Hadid, anyone. It does not matter what you look like.

• 14:54Speaker 01

  I didn't mean to suggest it's because she's really good looking. I just mean, I watched them together via the internet.

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  I saw exactly what everyone else saw, which wasn't a lot.

• 15:05Speaker 01

  I saw fuck all of this relationship. But from the two stories I saw on the Daily Mail.

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  Yeah.

• 15:13Speaker 01

  That man was mad about her. Like, it was in his eyes. He had an Instagram, he only followed her on Insta. There was no way, you could see by him, he was mad about her. He was mad about her.

• 15:26Speaker 02

  Can I just say one thing, though, right? You see, when a couple are happy and then somebody makes a rumor, literally up out of thin air about somebody cheating on the other person, people are only too fucking happy to believe that it's true. I've been that soldier. We've all been there at some point and people just love to jump on the negativity, even if it's complete bullshit. I don't think he cheated on her. I think that they broke up, I don't know what reason for. You're right. And Barry, we love you and we hope that you're doing well because we think that you're great. And also you, Sabrina, keep making espresso. Holla. Holla. Oh my god. Did you just say holla? I said holla.

• 16:08Speaker 02

  Do you know, I do I never text you say holla? Sometimes I say holla.

• 16:12Speaker 01

  That's the vaccine kicking in there now.

• 16:15Speaker 02

  I didn't get the vaccine. I've got the antibodies now.

• 16:19Speaker 03

  Just for the mind's eye, she also did the peace sign.

• 16:21Speaker 01

  She did a peace sign. She's not well, Jo. I don't know if we can continue recording.

• 16:25Speaker 02

  What are you talking about? I feel fucking great now, actually, since I've come on with you two. I'm really upset about the wine glasses, but besides that, I'm great.

• 16:32Speaker 01

  I've never heard her say holla, but there's some brain damage there, I think. What's she taking?

• 16:36Speaker 02

  Excuse me, I'm gonna go through my messages. I holla people all the time. I know, I'm disgusting, everyone. I'm sorry, I can't stop the coughing.

• 16:43Speaker 01

  I thought that was ola.

• 16:44Speaker 02

  No, I'm saying holla.

• 16:46Speaker 01

  I'm sorry, I thought it was ola.

• 16:49Speaker 02

  Do you not think I'm cool enough for holla?

• 16:51Speaker 01

  No, I just thought, I just thought because you travel loads and Sandra lives in Spain.

• 16:54Speaker 02

  I wanna make you holla.

• 16:55Speaker 01

  Barry Keoghan is now single, which is great, great news for all the women who fancy him, including all three of us. And if he needs a recommendation for Rea, I am willing to be that for him because Rea need two recommendations and Barry, if you're struggling.

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  John, that's really kind of you.

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  I thought so, yeah. I'll get you on Rea.

• 17:15Speaker 02

  Bring in, bring in the Christmas cheer for him.

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  I'll get you on Rea.

• 17:19Speaker 02

  What a gal.

• 17:20Speaker 01

  Slip into the DMs. I'll get you on Rea. Also, did you know, you know Sopperm, which was like amazing, blah, blah, blah?

• 17:27Speaker 02

  Yeah, he watched it in like fucking March and wanted to talk about it.

• 17:31Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 17:34Speaker 02

  I remember that too. But it's all burnt and been and gone and it was March and John's like, no, I feel like we need to discuss it. I'm like, well, the internet has already done that for us.

• 17:43Speaker 01

  I think there's no, you can't put a timeline on art.

• 17:47Speaker 02

  Do you know why I think as well, can I say one thing about Barry? I think because I wouldn't say like, I, I'm, I've gotten abused for like my whole time in the public eye. I've just always had it. I wouldn't say he's gotten one piece of abuse before this whole thing happened. So I'd say it's really even extra shocking to him that people are being mean to him. Whereas sometimes I read something like, he's that stupid fucking bitch. And I'm like, oh, hi. Like you just get so used to it.

• 18:13Speaker 01

  You're desensitized to it. I have to say in defence, I think it's never too late to discuss something as amazing as Sawburn. You can't put a time on that shit. Okay. Well, I think we should do a Sawburn special. Do you know, cut everything else we've just said, let's just do a Sawburn special right now. Well, you know Sawburn, that scene where he rides the mud?

• 18:31Speaker 02

  Yeah. Well, the grave, the grave.

• 18:33Speaker 01

  Yeah. The spoiler, spoiler for anyone hasn't seen it. He rides a grave. Okay.

• 18:36Speaker 02

  Sven, he's gonna do that to my grave. I bet you, anything.

• 18:39Speaker 01

  Oh yeah. I'd say you're down for that for sure.

• 18:42Speaker 02

  Hundred percent.

• 18:43Speaker 01

  Yeah. Yeah. And he's well hung. So he'll probably be my contact if he really leans into it. If he really drills down, he'll be tapping on that coffin. You'll be like, no, leave me alone. That was improvised. Did you know that joke?

• 18:56Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 18:57Speaker 03

  He just, he just did that.

• 18:59Speaker 01

  He just did it. Yeah. He was like, I'll just do what I need to do. And they were like, he's gonna kind of lean into the grave and the, and they didn't know what he was gonna do. And he's like, just let me do what I need to do. And he just.

• 19:09Speaker 03

  How quiet do you think everybody on the crew was when they cut him that scene?

• 19:14Speaker 02

  It was quite an uncomfortable watch as well, to be fair.

• 19:18Speaker 01

  I, I was gasping. I, I was like, I had my hands out of my mouth and I was like, no, no, no, no. I saw him kind of go to unbuckle his jeans and I was like, he's not gonna ride that. Oh my God, he's riding the grave. He's right. It's happening. He's riding the grave. I mean, epic, epic, iconic. We love you, Barry.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, he is fantastic. Poor Barry. I do feel bad for him.

• 19:38Speaker 01

  You keep riding that mud. And also Sabrina, you've also lost out. I, I, I remember I went with Harpist once when I was heartbroken over a guy and I was just all about how sad I was about losing him. And she was like, do you not think he's lost something in losing you? And I was like, oh my God, I never considered that. So I hope that helps Barry. I hope that helps.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  There was a man called Brian Thompson and he was shot point blank in the back of the head. He worked for, he was the CEO of United Healthcare. And basically, this man came up behind him and shot him in the back of the head. And this man is now all over the internet known as the hot assassin because he is very good looking. Yeah, he is very good looking. And an assassin. And an assassin. Yeah. But people are like literally going so crazy over him. Like, I saw that thing where his solicitor, his lawyer was saying, I'm not accepting fans to pay my legal, my legal fees. Like, he's gonna have to pay the legal fees. I'm not accepting money off people I don't know. Like, people are trying to pay the hot assassin's legal fees for him.

• 20:42Speaker 01

  So there was a photo of him when he fled the scene. He was stung in McDonald's, wasn't he? But there was a photo of him with his hood up and he's, we think flirting with somebody. We don't know. He's kind of got a very engaged, hot smile on his face. He's kind of looking off. And then they found loads of photos, but obviously they copped who it was, and found all these photos. He's got his top off. He's absolutely ripped. He's absolutely shredded. People are like, who had the audacity to hand him in? I'd harbor him. Like, it's kind of gone. Next level. It's like, do you remember the hot felon? Do you remember him?

• 21:16Speaker 02

  Yes. What did he do? Yeah, but he, now, I'm not saying any crime's a good crime. He didn't shoot somebody in the back of the head.

• 21:23Speaker 01

  I know.

• 21:24Speaker 02

  But I do, it's like, imagine that was your husband who was shot. Like, would you not be like, Jesus Christ? Didn't the hot felon, the other fella, didn't he marry, he married Philip Green's daughter and had a kid with her and everything? Or maybe they didn't get married?

• 21:37Speaker 01

  I don't think they married, but they definitely had a kid. Yeah. So the hot assassin is called Luigi Mangione. And Luigi had a manifesto and it was definitely, he was making a kind of a political point, for sure. But I've never heard a report of a man having a manifesto in a good way. Once a man has a manifesto...

• 22:00Speaker 02

  What was in his manifesto?

• 22:02Speaker 01

  People are gonna die. Like Hitler had a manifesto. It's very much a, I've got shit to say and I've got to take people down kind of diary.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  It's like, it's like one of those gratitude journals kind of thing.

• 22:16Speaker 01

  Yeah, but for a sociopathic.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  I've been saying it all along about meditation. It's not right. That was his gratitude journal. Look what's happened.

• 22:24Speaker 01

  A manifesto is an intention-setting goal journal for incel sociopaths. Would that be fair, Jo?

• 22:32Speaker 03

  Yeah, and political parties, they do manifest it as well.

• 22:34Speaker 01

  Oh, sorry, and political parties.

• 22:36Speaker 03

  But apart from that, nobody else.

• 22:38Speaker 01

  I've never known a woman to have a manifesto.

• 22:40Speaker 02

  Guys, sorry, I just can't actually really differentiate between a manifesto and people having those fucking vision boards. It's not the same thing.

• 22:47Speaker 01

  It absolutely is.

• 22:48Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 22:49Speaker 01

  Women always undersell what they're doing. We're like, oh, it's just a vision board. It's just a maybe, maybe, you know? I'd love this to happen. I'd like to will it into existence. Whereas lads are like, I've written a manifesto and I've bought a gun.

• 23:00Speaker 02

  I did a TV show about the prison system in America and I was at this woman's house, right? And she had 276 firearms. And I was like, why do you have so many guns? And she's like, well, I collect them. She's a collection of 276 guns. That is her guns. And then her husband also had his own collection of guns. They had like something like 500 guns between them. I'm like, guys, this is actually completely not normal.

• 23:25Speaker 01

  I can understand wanting to collect things. My aunt collects thimbles, but...

• 23:32Speaker 02

  A thimble seems quite a lot nicer than...

• 23:34Speaker 01

  It's more of a PG. And I've met people who collect Furbies and stuff, but collecting guns, I mean, it's a different mentality really, isn't it?

• 23:40Speaker 02

  I don't really collect. I collect clothes, I suppose. That's my excuse. That's why I have so many clothes. And also Christmas decorations. I do have a strange thing with Christmas decorations.

• 23:50Speaker 01

  I collect broken belligerent men.

• 23:53Speaker 02

  Yes, you do.

• 23:55Speaker 01

  Yes, I do. Yes, I do.

• 23:57Speaker 02

  I have seven in the cupboard there.

• 24:03Speaker 04

  Observe the North American dad. 50s, great polo collection. He enters his vehicle information on Carvana. An offer appears in minutes. Remarkable. He squints, reads it again, smiles and says, dang, that's a good offer. The highest form of approval. No haggling, no hassle. No one called him boss. He's still on the couch. Astonishing. Sell your car today on carvana.com. Pickup fees may apply.

• 24:34Speaker 01

  The only thing that would turn me off Luigi Mangaloni, apart from the murdering.

• 24:39Speaker 02

  What?

• 24:40Speaker 01

  Is he was wearing a snood and I can't abide a snood.

• 24:44Speaker 02

  I don't really like gloves on a man either. I just, I just.

• 24:49Speaker 01

  So I was at, I was home in Ireland during the week for a funeral, a family funeral. And there was people there I hadn't seen in years, et cetera, as there always is at funerals.

• 24:59Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:00Speaker 01

  And I was standing at the bar. It was kind of a quiet, it was like the after the lunch part. It was very nice, very demure, very respectful. And I was standing at the bar and a gentleman I've known, I've known him my whole life, really? Like, he's like a family, friends, father kind of thing.

• 25:15Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:16Speaker 01

  I'd say he's early seventies kind of thing. And he came over to me at the bar. I was obviously ordering a gin and a slim. And he came over and he was like, oh, because I haven't seen him in years, he's like, oh, I was at your show. And I was like, what? Like, he would not be the demographic now at all.

• 25:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 25:33Speaker 01

  And he's like, oh, my wife got tickets and she, I said I'd go and we went in to, it was the board gash. And I was like, oh lovely. I said, thanks for coming. And he goes, God, you're a slut.

• 25:44Speaker 02

  What?

• 25:47Speaker 01

  What the fucking? And when I say this funeral lunch was, you know, it was like, it wasn't a rowdy lunch. It was a funeral lunch. You're a, God, you're a slut. And I was like, oh.

• 26:00Speaker 01

  I was, I was so taken aback. I was like, oh my God. Well, I mean, yeah.

• 26:04Speaker 02

  Well, he's not wrong. He's not wrong, is he? He's not wrong.

• 26:07Speaker 03

  It's just not a word you hear that often these days. It's quite nostalgic hearing that word.

• 26:11Speaker 01

  Isn't it a slut? Yeah. Oh my God, you're a slut. And I was like, and he was delighted with himself. He was like laughing away. He was thrilled. He'd been waiting, he'd been waiting two years to tell me this. And I was like, thank you so much, I guess. I mean, thank you for the, for the compliment. And I said, you must come to the new show. And he goes, oh, more slutting, is it? More slutting.

• 26:33Speaker 02

  Does he know what the word means?

• 26:35Speaker 01

  I don't know. He seemed to be so thrilled to deliver this information to me.

• 26:42Speaker 02

  I don't think he was delighted.

• 26:44Speaker 01

  He was like, you're a slut. And then he was laughing and his son was there and his son was kind of laughing, kind of nervously. And then I was obviously just taking it on the chain because I was like, this is actually really funny. I love to be slut chained at a funeral. I can tell you, it kills the time. Kills the time. Speaking of more slutting, my new stand-up show, Penophile, is currently on sale. 2025, 2026, Ireland and the UK, cork dates added. All tickets available on joamacnally.com.

• 27:09Speaker 02

  Lovely cork.

• 27:11Speaker 01

  Anyway, speaking of sluts, on to Judi Dench. Judi Dench has a parrot and she was doing an interview recently and she was talking about the parrot. And she's like, the parrot's gas. I have to read you this quote. It really made me laugh.

• 27:24Speaker 02

  Happy birthday, Judi Dench. She just turned 90.

• 27:26Speaker 01

  Yes, yeah, that was what it was for. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 27:32Speaker 01

  She's been held as national treasure, blah, blah, blah. Not as interesting as this. Dame Judi Dench has revealed that her pet parrot has a rather less polite name for her. "We had a long chat just now," says Judy. "You shouldn't ask what she says. She says, you're a slut, you're a slag." Dench told the Sunday Times. She has said Boris Johnson in the past, but she didn't get that from me. She suddenly says to me, you're a slag, you're a slut.

• 27:59Speaker 02

  They must get it from the telly or something if the telly's on.

• 28:02Speaker 01

  She said, honest to God, it's true. I don't know where she learned. The timing of it, she delivers it so well.

• 28:10Speaker 02

  What the fuck? I just think, what the fu- why do people have parrots anyway? I just find it so, I would, I would not like to have a pet bird.

• 28:19Speaker 01

  If my dog started, imagine Bertie, imagine you gave Bertie the gift of gaff. Yeah. And he just started calling you a slag. I mean, it's problematic, is it not?

• 28:31Speaker 02

  I wouldn't like to be offended.

• 28:32Speaker 01

  Judy, what has he seen you do?

• 28:36Speaker 02

  Who's been in and out of that house, Judy?

• 28:38Speaker 01

  I think, you're turning 90. I think, great, good for you. If you're slagging around the gaff and your parrot's seeing it and he's calling you out, it's only, it only makes me respect you more, to be honest.

• 28:52Speaker 02

  Okay, so last week I was talking about how I screamed at Alison Hammond. Bike!

• 28:58Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 28:59Speaker 02

  And some of you have written in some pretty good celebrity encounters. So here's one, they bumped into Dara O'Brine. Hi, Joanna Vogue, years ago when I lived in London, I was in a pub with my now husband when we spotted Dara O'Brine. I'd had a few wines and was feeling brave, so went up to him and asked for a photo. He was very nice and obliged and put an arm around me and we took the photo. I said, thank you, and to my horror, for some reason, I patted him on the bum as I did. He didn't, he didn't even say a word and neither did I. We just went on with our evenings. This was about 13 years ago and I'm still dying inside from Fiona.

• 29:37Speaker 01

  He's a pro, what can you say? He's a pro.

• 29:40Speaker 02

  I'm telling you, people always touch my arse in pictures and I, I put it down. Yeah, I put it down to my being so tall and they don't expect my arse to be there. So I never get offended.

• 29:50Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's probably what it is.

• 29:52Speaker 02

  Oh, there is always, and the older the person, the more of an arse grab. I'm telling you, women, men, everyone, everyone's at it.

• 30:02Speaker 02

  Here's another one. Oh, hello Vogue and Joanne. Firstly, want to say I'm a huge fan of the pod, I have an awkward celebrity encounter with Joanne.

• 30:10Speaker 01

  Oh God, okay, go on.

• 30:12Speaker 02

  I used to work in Brian Thomas Grafton Street, you do frequent there.

• 30:15Speaker 01

  I do, I love it, yeah.

• 30:16Speaker 02

  Specifically at Bash. I was a really terrible employee and would just wander around the shop when it wasn't busy with my earphones in, listening to MTGM. But anyway, while I was having a wander, one of the guys from another stand comes to me and says, hey, would you mind watching that lady for a second? I have to go to the basement. I was like, watch her? He's like, yeah, she's acting weird. So I'm like, okay, fine, whatever.

• 30:41Speaker 02

  So I wander around for a while, keeping a watchful eye on this lady. She's not doing anything particularly weird until she sees the box that's displaying the jewellery from the brand and tries to open it to get a closer look. Yeah, that's, that's, that's fine.

• 30:56Speaker 01

  That's what people do. They look, they try to get closer looks at things.

• 31:01Speaker 01

  I'm assuming the lady's me.

• 31:04Speaker 02

  That would be fine.

• 31:05Speaker 01

  Subject. Yeah, go on.

• 31:06Speaker 02

  Of course, but the box is locked shut because it's for displays. So she's really struggling with it. So I go up and see if I can help and I come from behind and say, excuse me. And the lady literally jumps out of her skin and it's like, ah, sorry, the box went open. And that's when I realised it's Joanne.

• 31:22Speaker 01

  Yeah, jumps out of her skin. That's me of an overactive nervous system.

• 31:25Speaker 02

  Yeah. And so then I jump because I'm starstruck. I've literally, literally just been listening to the podcast in my ears. And now one of them is in front of me and I just burst out, I love you. And I just kind of run away. Not, not I love your podcast, not I really admire your work. No, I love you. Like I didn't know what to do. So I just skedaddled around the corner and the guy from the basement comes in and is like, are you okay? Is that lady trying to steal the jewellery box?

• 31:48Speaker 01

  He did not say that.

• 31:51Speaker 02

  And I go, it's Joanne. No, I love her. And he looks at me like I'm a mad person.

• 31:56Speaker 01

  Who's this lad?

• 31:57Speaker 02

  Joanne, Joanne, sometimes you go out and you, you, you look maybe a little bit like you could be doing a tiny bit of robbing. I'm not being rude. Sometimes, now you look great today. Sometimes there's a possible potential rob vibe off you.

• 32:12Speaker 01

  On the days that I don't have a curly blow dryer, like I can't get a curly blow dryer every day.

• 32:16Speaker 02

  Well, then you're gonna just have to.

• 32:18Speaker 01

  I'm, I'm not gonna lie, I'm offended and insulted and I want to know who this man is. I'll do nothing about it, but I'll just go in town daggers.

• 32:25Speaker 02

  You're the hot felon. Joanne's the hot felon.

• 32:27Speaker 01

  Well, I think I'm just a felon really. I don't.

• 32:30Speaker 02

  That is so funny. Joanne wouldn't have a clue. These people are just following her around the shop to make sure she's not robbing.

• 32:37Speaker 01

  That is a disgrace. I'm, I'm the average felon. How embarrassing.

• 32:43Speaker 02

  She probably had her Canada goose on, just going around, jumping around, trying to rip open a jewellery box.

• 32:50Speaker 01

  The rosacea felon. They're like, oh, she has kind of like a Santa nose on her at Christmas, like it's a skin condition.

• 32:57Speaker 02

  Oh my God, that's actually kind of amazing.

• 32:59Speaker 01

  Pure sexism to me, but there, I'm just because it's a lad, I'm, I'm, I'm just gonna call it sexism and try and move on. Well, it was lovely to meet that woman. I don't remember any of this encounter, but thank you for having my back and not calling security.

• 33:13Speaker 02

  Have you ever met anyone famous?

• 33:14Speaker 01

  Not super famous, to be honest.

• 33:17Speaker 02

  What about you, Jo?

• 33:18Speaker 03

  You do see people in and about Global, because obviously people are coming to their interviews and stuff.

• 33:24Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 33:24Speaker 03

  And I bumped into Nigel Farage once, and I nearly

• 33:28Speaker 01

  Boring!

• 33:32Speaker 01

  Vogue's favourite quote.

• 33:33Speaker 02

  It's the best.

• 33:38Speaker 02

  I don't even care about his policies. I just love that meme now so much. I'd probably vote for him. I wouldn't vote for him, don't worry.

• 33:45Speaker 01

  No. What famous person have you met, Vogue? Like, who's the most famous?

• 33:49Speaker 02

  Uh, I just forget them, because I don't, I only really, I only have like a certain amount of famous people that I really love, that I would, I'd love to, like Eminem, if I ever met Eminem, I'd pass away and die. But like, I've met like, obviously Boy George and stuff like that. I've met a lot of the Spice Girls, um, which was very cool.

• 34:07Speaker 01

  There's levels of, there's levels of fame that, that vary in impressiveness, really, isn't there?

• 34:12Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah.

• 34:13Speaker 01

  Yeah, like the top tier, like Tom Cruise, he'd be kind of

• 34:17Speaker 02

  Yeah, oh, I met Michael Douglas. Tier one. I met Michael Douglas.

• 34:20Speaker 01

  Oh, well, he's, I would say he's tier one.

• 34:22Speaker 02

  He's tier one, I'd say, yeah.

• 34:24Speaker 01

  Oh, yeah. I'd say Michael Douglas is tier one. I mean, the man got throat cancer from going down on women. He's a, he's a rock star.

• 34:29Speaker 02

  I remember, did I tell you what I met, when I first met Jamie Redknapp and Louise? When I was like, when I was 13 in the airport in Sardinia, and I went over and asked for a picture with them. I've no, I don't even know why I wanted a picture with them, but I, I went over.

• 34:41Speaker 01

  Yeah, of course, yeah.

• 34:43Speaker 02

  And then Teddy Sheringham, which is a footballer, I went up to him in Portugal when I was like nine. I didn't, don't give a shit about football, but everyone else is going up to him, so I said, fuck it.

• 34:51Speaker 01

  You're one of those, you're one of those.

• 34:53Speaker 02

  I was, yeah.

• 34:53Speaker 01

  You're one of those.

• 34:54Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 34:55Speaker 01

  People who come up, they're like, I don't have a

• 34:56Speaker 02

  I don't even know who you are!

• 34:57Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I don't have a clue who you are. But like, yeah, my missus says you're on this, that and the other. Can I get a photo? Yeah, you're one of those.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  Mommy's working, girl, I'll be in a sec. Oh my god, she smells like CK1.

• 35:31Speaker 01

  I actually feel really bad about the glasses, because they're really cute.

• 35:35Speaker 02

  Oh no, like, I'm sorry, 80 quid, come on.

• 35:38Speaker 01

  Well, apart from the glasses, I did get a gorgeous Vogue package yesterday.

• 35:42Speaker 02

  This is true.

• 35:43Speaker 01

  I did, and this is what I will, what I will repackage and open again on Christmas Day. And it is 19 bottles of Extra Dark from Breyer by Vogue.

• 35:53Speaker 02

  You got extra dark?

• 35:54Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 35:55Speaker 02

  What?

• 35:56Speaker 01

  I'm going to Cape Town in January, I'm going, you won't, I'm going very dark.

• 36:02Speaker 02

  It always concerns me when a, when a medium gal goes extra dark, it concerns me a little bit. One of my other friends does it, and she looks like she's wearing tan.

• 36:11Speaker 01

  How dare you look me up and down and say medium?

• 36:15Speaker 02

  I look you up and down and I say medium, much the same as I would do Joe.

• 36:20Speaker 01

  It's this time of year where I just, it just makes me so sad that sunbeds give you cancer. It's just that time, it's every time I'm about to go on a sun holiday, I just, I really resent the cancer stuff from the sunbeds.

• 36:36Speaker 02

  Cancer. I've never, like, I never really got involved in the whole sunbed craze. I did once years and years and years ago, but no, I never really did. Now, saying that, I'm not saying I'm a saint of any kind, because I used to lie outside with olive oil covering my entire skin. So I'm not saying it was for that reason. Yeah, we all used to do it.

• 36:55Speaker 01

  We used to do it, yeah. I used to put chip, I used to put oil on my face and all.

• 36:59Speaker 02

  Oh god, yeah.

• 37:00Speaker 01

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

• 37:02Speaker 02

  I've got a brown face, I've got a brown face.

• 37:04Speaker 01

  Yeah, so that, now when I'm in with like a skin specialist, they're like, oh, you've got a skin pigmentation. I'm like, I'm lucky I have a face. Do you know what I mean?

• 37:11Speaker 02

  You're lucky there's anything left there after what I've put it through.

• 37:15Speaker 01

  Yeah, and it's just, it's not a burnt nob.

• 37:18Speaker 02

  I used to go, look, I wonder if they've got factor II oil, if they've got factor II oil? Like, don't bother, just don't bother.

• 37:25Speaker 01

  Don't bother now.

• 37:26Speaker 02

  Yeah, Spenny still wears 4 oil sometimes, and I'm like, why are you bothering? Like, there's no point, just don't, don't wear it, there's just no need for it.

• 37:33Speaker 01

  Do you remember the carrot oil?

• 37:35Speaker 02

  Yeah, do you remember people were getting the tanning injections where they'd get in, they'd inject themselves and they'd always, you'd always know because they'd go some weird kind of shade.

• 37:45Speaker 01

  They injected themselves with extra melatonin, wasn't that it? Yeah, I had friends doing that. Like, tanning is, was every, not as much now, because Phaeton is so high end now in South Sci-Fi, but back in the day when it was just one colour of Phaeton and there was no such thing as mits or anything, you were just kind of smearing it on with your bare hands and.

• 38:05Speaker 02

  And also, it was very expensive back in the day. There wasn't like reasonably priced tan. It was all like, it was all your Saint-Tropez, which was like 60 quid. I didn't have 60 quid to pay for tan back in the day.

• 38:16Speaker 01

  Well, I was just, yeah, I was just using Pat's Phaeton. So imagine me and Pat using the same Phaeton. Like, the whole thing was, it was chaos. But I, before I went to Ibiza years ago, I was, I decided, I was like, I'm gonna get stuck into the beds. It was the summer where, there was a stage where all the white people in Ireland were tan mad and cancer. It just wasn't on the ra, it was on the radar, but it wa, it wasn't enough. The concerns weren't enough to really stop us. And I was in getting beds and when I went to Ibiza, like, the sad part is, I looked amazing. I'm sorry. Sorry, there's no lessons to be learnt here.

• 38:51Speaker 02

  You always look amazing with a tan. It's just true.

• 38:54Speaker 01

  But I remember one of my friends is an oncology nurse and she sat me down and was like, do you know the amount of young girls we have coming in here with untreatable skin cancer from beds? And that really freaked me out, so I stopped. Yeah.

• 39:10Speaker 02

  Oh god.

• 39:10Speaker 01

  I know. Turns out I do have a boundary.

• 39:13Speaker 02

  I do know people who, who do use the beds and like, they're always really, they're always really shy about mentioning it and I'm, because everyone is like, oh, and like, I'm even like, oh my god, you can't be using the beds.

• 39:25Speaker 01

  It is sha, it's a, it's a thing of shame. Do you remember that, do you remember that Insta account a couple of years ago, bloggers unveiled?

• 39:32Speaker 02

  Do I? Yeah, I used to love that account.

• 39:34Speaker 01

  Do you remember that show?

• 39:35Speaker 02

  It was actually so mean.

• 39:36Speaker 01

  So mean. And it was someone running this anonymous Instagram account, kind of revealing shameful secrets about bloggers.

• 39:46Speaker 01

  Back when blogging was, they were blogging, they were influencers, I guess. And one of them in particular-

• 39:51Speaker 02

  Calling out influencers though.

• 39:52Speaker 01

  Calling out influencers.

• 39:53Speaker 02

  Are being complete bullshits, you know, it's being like, this actually isn't true, yeah.

• 39:56Speaker 01

  Yeah. And one of them was, she was a white Irish woman and people had been accusing her of doing beds for a very long time. And she had been denying it, very much Bill Clinton days, like, I don't know what you're talking about. I did not have anything to do with those tanning beds. And someone got a photo of her-

• 40:16Speaker 02

  It's so bad.

• 40:17Speaker 01

  Walking out, tanning salon. But she was wearing huge, she was like, it was, she was like a spy. She was wearing huge dark sunglasses and she was kind of covering her face and someone had snapped her as she walked through the reception. And it was, it was, I mean, it shouldn't have been as funny as it was, but it was really funny because it was just really, really funny.

• 40:36Speaker 02

  It's still so funny. Like, listen to how ridiculous that sounds. Like, like-

• 40:42Speaker 01

  I know.

• 40:43Speaker 02

  Waiting outside to pop her outside of a sunbed shop.

• 40:47Speaker 01

  It was, no, it was one of the girls sitting in reception, which is even worse. And then put, and then sent the photo in to bloggers unveiled. Some girl ratted her out.

• 40:57Speaker 02

  Oh, stop.

• 40:59Speaker 01

  I know.

• 41:00Speaker 02

  Oh my god, that's so funny.

• 41:02Speaker 01

  Anyway, thanks so much for the time because-

• 41:05Speaker 02

  You're welcome. In a roundabout way, you're welcome.

• 41:08Speaker 01

  Every tube of that will be, every, every ounce of that mousse will be used.

• 41:16Speaker 02

  Before we go, yes, I would like to say that my, my book, Big Mouth, a lot of people are asking if it's going to be an Audible. Yes, it will be an Audible. I actually didn't consider that extra slice of work that I was going to have to do. But yes, it's on pre-sale in, in Audible now. So if you go to my Instagram, you'll see the link in my bio. And Big Mouth is there, very exciting.

• 41:36Speaker 01

  Audible's the best version, I think.

• 41:38Speaker 02

  I know. No, I love to buy, and I shot the book cover and the book cover is really good. And I like, I would want, like, I wanted a book that you'd want to keep out.

• 41:46Speaker 01

  Yeah.

• 41:47Speaker 02

  Well, maybe you don't want a picture of my face in your house, to be fair. Maybe get the Audible. Anyway, they're all up there, they're all up there for pre-sale.

• 41:53Speaker 01

  Audible books are just such good company, I find. They're just such good company. I'm listening to Matt Rife's audiobook at the moment.

• 41:59Speaker 02

  Who's Matt Rife?

• 42:00Speaker 01

  He is an American stand-up who is controversial. He went-

• 42:06Speaker 01

  Massively viral on TikTok and then got all these Netflix specials.

• 42:10Speaker 02

  Yes, yes, yes.

• 42:11Speaker 01

  And then he kind of did some weird sexist domestic jokes and people weren't happy. And I'm all, I'm, I'm actually listening to it out of pure curiosity to kind of get to know the man a bit, to hopefully see his more likeable side, I think.

• 42:30Speaker 02

  You just love listening to books. Would you listen to me now? Would you, would you be able to listen to me?

• 42:35Speaker 01

  I don't know if I could listen to it. I'll definitely read it. I'd inhale it. But listening to, I think, because I listen to you so much. I wonder, would it be strange?

• 42:45Speaker 02

  I listen to you more than anyone.

• 42:47Speaker 01

  I know. Because, well, you do, because you listen to the podcast, but I don't know.

• 42:51Speaker 02

  I'm too scared to not listen to the podcast. Because remember that one time, I just have to listen to the podcast.

• 42:57Speaker 01

  I think I'd more enjoy, I think I'd enjoy, I think I'd enjoy reading your book more because I think it would feel more special than listening to you because I listen to you so much that.

• 43:06Speaker 02

  Well, go for your words right now. You too, Jo. I'm watching.

• 43:10Speaker 01

  Oh, God.

• 43:11Speaker 02

  Is there a swipe of code on? Go now.

• 43:24Speaker 01

  That's it for this week. Thank you, everybody, so much for listening and we will be back with a bonus on Wednesday.