Getting Arrested, Chappell Roan Drama & Mushrooms

As she tries her hardest to crack America, Joanne joins us live from Los Angeles! Question - if a random kid came up to you at the hotel breakfast and started staring you down, how aggressively would you tell them to get lost? Vogue & Joanne discuss the big Chappell Roan drama, as well as Joanne’s super random connection to the Wu-Tang Clan, Justin Timberlake’s mortifying arrest footage AND what delights Joanne has stashed in her hotel room. If you’d like to get in touch, you can send an email to [email protected] mailto:[email protected] You can now watch FULL video episodes of My Therapist Ghosted Me! Visit www.youtube.com/@mtgmpod http://www.youtube.com/@mtgmpod and remember to subscribe! Please review Global's Privacy Policy:https://global.com/legal/privacy-policy/ For merch, tour dates and more visit:https://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/www.mytherapistghostedme.com http://www.mytherapistghostedme.com/ Joanne's comedy gigs:https://www.joannemcnally.com/www.joannemcnally.com http://www.joannemcnally.com/ This episode contains explicit language and adult themes that may not be suitable for all listeners.

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• 0:32Speaker 01

  This is a Global Player original podcast.

• 0:42Speaker 02

  Hello from Hollywood. I'm in Los Angeles.

• 0:46Speaker 03

  Are you in America?

• 0:48Speaker 02

  I'm in America Vogue. I'm in LA. I'm in the Hollywood Hills. I just had breakfast with Whoopi Goldberg and Sting.

• 0:56Speaker 03

  Wowee.

• 0:58Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 0:59Speaker 03

  I do like them.

• 1:00Speaker 02

  I'm off to meet Kevin Hart now.

• 1:04Speaker 03

  Oh, fantastic. Tell them I was asking from.

• 1:07Speaker 02

  Bono wanted to meet me. I said, Bono, I said, I have no time to hang out with Irish people over here. I'm flat out networking.

• 1:13Speaker 03

  Sure, you didn't enjoy U2 anyway, did you not?

• 1:17Speaker 02

  I didn't enjoy U2 in the sphere, as we know. Notoriously disenjoyed it. Do you know that I actually met a guy yesterday who I had met in the sphere. We went for drinks. Christine, my Irish agent, had to keep bringing me in and out of the box in the sphere because I was getting, in inverted commas, over excited.

• 1:37Speaker 03

  From the girl who hated U2.

• 1:40Speaker 02

  Yeah, he was like, I never hated them. I am a U2 fan, but he was saying that I was being brought in and out. He's like, do you not remember? I was like, no memory of that at all. Fucking mental. Anyway, good times were happening.

• 1:52Speaker 03

  I thought you were in the corner knitting, not even like looking up at them because you didn't enjoy it, even though I saw you hanging off the balcony dancing.

• 2:00Speaker 02

  I know, I was trying to climb my way down to Dave Baggrel.

• 2:05Speaker 02

  God love him, he's back, David, he's back. He says, I read an interview with David Groll the other day, because remember he had the issue with the-

• 2:11Speaker 03

  So weird that you call him David, Dave, Dave.

• 2:14Speaker 02

  Is it Dave Groll?

• 2:14Speaker 03

  My friend Dave.

• 2:15Speaker 02

  Hey, Groll. Yeah, that works.

• 2:17Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 2:17Speaker 02

  Yeah. He's like McNally. He, he apparently, I read an interview with him the other day, it was in The Guardian, he was saying that he, um, he did therapy every day for a year.

• 2:30Speaker 03

  You see, I, that concerns me. I mean, I, I, I feel like some people seem over-therapised. Like, you know, when Prince Harry started, well, talking publicly?

• 2:46Speaker 03

  It was, it was very obvious that he had been through a lot of therapy. And sometimes I feel that I am, I love therapy, I think it's a great tool to help you, but I think that sometimes it can be quite a lot.

• 2:59Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 2:59Speaker 03

  And I think, I think that like, sometimes you can start thinking things that maybe aren't 100% something that you would have focused on had you not been going to too much therapy.

• 3:10Speaker 02

  This is very diplomatic folk. You sound like you've had therapy.

• 3:14Speaker 03

  I have had therapy.

• 3:16Speaker 02

  You've had therapy and how to deal with people who are over-therapised. That's what this sounds like.

• 3:21Speaker 03

  I have therapy and if I don't get agreed with it, I'm like, well, I won't see you next week. How about that?

• 3:27Speaker 02

  How dare you interrupt my echo chamber?

• 3:31Speaker 03

  If you want to tell me who's right again, if you want to try it again, then I might consider seeing you next week.

• 3:36Speaker 02

  It's like Ireland and the Lisbon Treaty. Do you remember we voted no and the government went, let's try again. We're gonna keep doing this until you say yes, and then we'll carry on. Yeah, I know. Well, I have to say, I do, why are my glasses steaming up? Why is that happening?

• 3:51Speaker 03

  Can I, well, it's probably a mixture of the glasses and the eye patches. I was, I saw, I shouldn't do it, but I saw our comments on TikTok and like, it's obviously new people that don't see us on TikTok. It's a different audience. And some guys, what's wrong with that girl? Is she blind?

• 4:12Speaker 02

  Maybe I am, Dave.

• 4:14Speaker 03

  Another Dave.

• 4:16Speaker 02

  Maybe I am. If Anastasia can wear glasses inside now, I do actually think she has an eye condition.

• 4:23Speaker 03

  I don't know if she does.

• 4:24Speaker 02

  My condition is, I'm in LA and it's 8am.

• 4:29Speaker 03

  It's 8am, we have you at 8am?

• 4:32Speaker 02

  You do, you bastards.

• 4:34Speaker 03

  Oh my god.

• 4:35Speaker 02

  Well, obviously, like, just to let the listeners know, I ended up cancelling the podcast yesterday, which I very rarely do, because...

• 4:49Speaker 03

  You're the worst canceler. And then Joanne doesn't just cancel yesterday, she goes, "It's very serious, I can't do the pod", and then obviously because I am an anxious person, I was like, "Oh, Jesus Christ, someone's kidnapped her, she's gonna end up in a bin, she's gonna end up in a bin, dead, being dragged out of that hotel. What's happening?" No response till the next day.

• 5:11Speaker 02

  See, I didn't realise I'd said it was very serious, so what happened was, because I woke up, I was like, "Why is everyone ringing me?"

• 5:16Speaker 03

  The series didn't match the sunrise emoji, so it was like, "I can't do the podcast tomorrow morning, sunrise emoji, it's very serious", and I was like, "Oh no, this is bad."

• 5:26Speaker 02

  I was wondering why everyone was like, "Are you okay?" I ate nine kilos of mushrooms, that's what happened. And I was tripping balls for about 12 hours.

• 5:36Speaker 02

  And then I was accidentally sending video notes to my American manager, Mac, and we're only newly working together, I'd say, she's like, "This nut job."

• 5:44Speaker 03

  She's used to it in America, she's used to it in America.

• 5:47Speaker 02

  You know when, you know when you accidentally send a video note, but like, you don't mean to and it's just your chin kind of moving around? Anyway, that's what happened, so I apologised to, I texted Joe then, I was like, "Look, I'm sorry about that, and about the bit of drama there", and he's like, "Mate, I'm on my holidays", and I was like, "Ah, good for you, Joe."

• 6:06Speaker 03

  Couldn't give a fuck what you're doing, I'm on my holidays.

• 6:08Speaker 02

  Yeah, he's like, "I don't care, I've tapped out", but anyway.

• 6:11Speaker 03

  And then you stopped seeing his profile picture because he blocked you. He's blocked you for the next two weeks.

• 6:16Speaker 02

  For the next two weeks, he should, rightly so. Joe, if anyone enjoys, if anyone deserves a holiday, it's Joe Attiewell, I can tell you. That man works himself, well, sorry, is worked to the bone, I would say.

• 6:27Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 6:28Speaker 02

  He works very hard. Any news in London?

• 6:31Speaker 03

  Any news in London, what's happening in London?

• 6:35Speaker 03

  Oh gosh, you know when someone's like, so what have you been up to? And you're like, God, please let me think of something decent.

• 6:39Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 6:39Speaker 03

  Is there anything? Have I, have I done anything decent this week? Let me see if I've put anything in my week.

• 6:46Speaker 02

  My friend, one of my, one of my mates actually, like was kind of irritated. She said, Joanne, stop asking me if I have any news. If I have news, I'll tell you. And I was like, I'm sorry.

• 6:57Speaker 03

  No one has news, no one has news. That's the thing though.

• 6:59Speaker 02

  You're making me feel really boring. Stop asking. I was like, I'm sorry.

• 7:03Speaker 03

  There's two things I've realised in later life. No one has news. And like, you know, when you're like even off grid or something for a while, you're like, Jesus, what's, what's been going on? And everyone's like, nothing. And also no one sees each other. So like, I always, yeah, I always used to think, oh my God, I'm a terrible friend. I never see anyone. My friendship group's really suffering. And they're like, no, so hang on, we don't see each other either. That's why we've organised this holiday once every three years. So we actually get to see each other.

• 7:28Speaker 02

  Sometimes I meet people like across paths with women or men. I'm like, we, we could be really good friends in another world if we were, if we could see each other. Do you know?

• 7:38Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 7:39Speaker 02

  But that's just not going to happen.

• 7:41Speaker 03

  There does come a point where you can't accept many more. Like you are, your jumper is a woolen jumper and you're in LA.

• 7:46Speaker 02

  And I'm in LA. Now, the reason I'm wearing a mohair jumper in the Hollywood Hills is because it's the only clean thing I have left. Today's the last day of the trip. I have my show tonight and I fly home after the show.

• 7:58Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 7:59Speaker 02

  And this is the only clean thing I, I bought the other day. I, I might have to take it off though. I might have to go topless, it's very hot.

• 8:05Speaker 03

  Did you, did you buy it at a nightmare on Elm Street shop?

• 8:10Speaker 02

  For, for our listeners who aren't watching, it is, it is striped. Vogue says it's, it's, it's giving Freddy Krueger. Maybe I'm auditioning for a movie role, huh?

• 8:21Speaker 03

  Oh, she's in the movies now.

• 8:23Speaker 02

  I'm in the movies. Come here, it was, it was actually, I, I was like, I was mortified. So I'm on this, have you, you know the way you hear about people going to America and they do meetings? They're taking meetings, everyone's taking meetings. So I'm finally on this kind of pointless meeting journey where you just go in and take meetings and nothing happens. Yeah, exactly. Right. You go in, they tell you you're fantastic and then you never hear from them again.

• 8:43Speaker 03

  They tell you you're fantastic. I say when you turn around, they just stick their fingers up at you like, fuck off.

• 8:47Speaker 02

  They're just around in their eyes. They're like, next. And they just like send you down in like one of those trash can, one of those chutes, trap bin chutes, garbage chutes. God, I'm so American. And I was sitting there anyway and it was like, I don't know, it was like sixth, not sixth meeting of the week, maybe something like that. And they're like, so, they were so lovely. And they're like, so have you, have you thought about, have you ever thought about writing a film, like a movie? And I was like, I haven't actually, no. And they're like, oh, because we're a movie production company.

• 9:19Speaker 03

  I thought you've mentioned it.

• 9:21Speaker 02

  Do you know what, actually, just coming up in the elevator there, I said to myself, I'll write a movie. Imagine. I thought they were a TV production company.

• 9:32Speaker 02

  And they're quite big. And they're just looking at me like, have you read any of your emails?

• 9:36Speaker 03

  My, my new excuse is I don't, I don't have time to take over America. That's my excuse.

• 9:42Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Well, I'm telling you, Vogue.

• 9:45Speaker 03

  I'd move there tomorrow.

• 9:46Speaker 02

  I'm trying and I give it, I'm gonna give it one more week. And if it doesn't happen, if it doesn't happen in a two week time space, I'm going home.

• 9:53Speaker 03

  Do you know what, John? This is, I don't give a shit because you're doing the dirty work. I'll be, I will literally be dragging behind you. I will hang on to those coat tails like my life depends on it. If anything happens over there, don't you worry.

• 10:05Speaker 02

  I'll try and crack the states. You just sit in the comfort of your own home in Battersea while I'm out plugging my wares, dragging my busted suitcase around America. And then you get to do Radio City. There you go.

• 10:15Speaker 03

  Thank you very much. I do appreciate that. That's how it should work.

• 10:18Speaker 02

  Speaking of.

• 10:18Speaker 03

  Did you get any suitcase?

• 10:20Speaker 02

  Oh, Vogue. Can you believe it?

• 10:23Speaker 03

  Yeah, I can because I've seen the way you treat your luggage. I've had the same luggage for, like, honestly, I bought this Antler luggage when I was living in Australia. That's how long ago. And I still own it. Yeah.

• 10:38Speaker 02

  Do you, are you, do you like, do you, when you get home, do you, do you, do you, because I see the girls on TikTok, do you hoover your suitcase?

• 10:44Speaker 03

  No, of course not.

• 10:44Speaker 02

  Okay, fine.

• 10:45Speaker 03

  I do unpack it as soon as I get back. So I'm not going to deny that. But I don't hoover it.

• 10:49Speaker 02

  You don't hoover it?

• 10:50Speaker 03

  No. But I like looking at it. I like it to be like, not broken and split open.

• 10:56Speaker 02

  Well, I arrived, I landed in LA safely, thank God. And I pedaled on down to this cabbage, not cabbage, baggage.

• 11:10Speaker 03

  Is that how you were feeling yesterday? Just like cabbage, a bowl of cabbage.

• 11:14Speaker 02

  I woke up, so I had a big one, right? I haven't had a big one in a while, I had a big one. I can't feel bad about it, we just have to move on. But I woke, I woke up and there was something like on me, like I could feel like a weight on my legs. It's like, what is that? I was like, have I hooked up with a teeny tiny man? He's only up as far as my knees. Not again! Has he fallen asleep vertically or horizontally across me? What's happening? And I opened my piggy little eyes and there was a giant buzzball, which I have brought to show you, Vogue, like a show and tell, like a child on the nature table. Look at the size, of course in America you can buy, buy, buy, buy giant buzzballs. Look at the size, it's the size of a child, Vogue.

• 11:57Speaker 03

  So, how many, I need to know the literage and I need to know the cost, because I saw that in your stories and I was like, that looks amazing.

• 12:03Speaker 02

  So it's, it's, okay, so here we are, reading the ingredients. I mean, it's fluorescent orange. So I'm assuming, I don't think it's one of your five a day, necessarily.

• 12:14Speaker 02

  I don't know why I didn't open it. I obviously, maybe I bought it to rehydrate in the morning.

• 12:18Speaker 03

  You've got to leave that there now.

• 12:21Speaker 02

  I know, yeah. I don't, I don't think I can smash a giant buzzball before a show just so I don't waste it.

• 12:28Speaker 03

  I don't know about that now. I don't like waste.

• 12:30Speaker 02

  It's, it's a one, it's a 1.75 litre of tequila Rita, alcohol 15%. Yeah. I'd say that'd get you going now.

• 12:40Speaker 03

  Sorry, 15%? Vodka's a little worsey. No, vodka's 37.5%.

• 12:45Speaker 02

  I have a bottle of vodka here beside me as well, hold on, let's see what this is.

• 12:48Speaker 03

  Oh my god, that's full too!

• 12:52Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know. I'll leave it for housekeeper, I leave, I leave, I leave it all for housekeeper, I leave messages, saying please take, so they know they can take it.

• 13:01Speaker 03

  Yeah, okay, fair, fair, fair. Did you just keep buying booze until it'll get through you at some point? And then you don't get through at all?

• 13:06Speaker 02

  I don't know what happened, this was on the big, this was the big night out.

• 13:09Speaker 03

  It doesn't look like that big a night out, to be honest with you.

• 13:11Speaker 02

  Yeah, but there's a bottle of tequila here as well.

• 13:15Speaker 03

  No!

• 13:16Speaker 02

  Very much been nibbled.

• 13:19Speaker 03

  No, there's half a bottle left.

• 13:21Speaker 02

  Well, it was only me and one other person.

• 13:24Speaker 03

  I know, but still.

• 13:25Speaker 02

  And this was the after-party.

• 13:27Speaker 03

  Oh, like, was there really a necessity to buy all of that for the after-party?

• 13:31Speaker 02

  No, of course there wasn't. It's America and I'm in Hollywood, so I don't know. I don't know.

• 13:37Speaker 03

  They do three litre bottles of vodkas. They do like the handles, you know them?

• 13:42Speaker 02

  No.

• 13:43Speaker 03

  Yeah, they do handles of vodka.

• 13:45Speaker 02

  Like, as in there's a handle on each side?

• 13:47Speaker 03

  There's a handle on one side and it's a three litre bottle of vodka, yeah?

• 13:52Speaker 02

  Wow. Well, anyway, I'm, from tomorrow on, I'm on the drive for three weeks because I'm doing a new panel show in the UK and I'm going to be on my bestest behaviours. So I look snatched, healthy, glowing and cognitively sharp. Yeah.

• 14:10Speaker 03

  Sharp. What panel show are you doing? You'd like to tell us?

• 14:13Speaker 02

  I think I am, actually. Yeah. So it's a new panel show. It's called Unacceptable. It's on TLC. I am team captain. Ed Gamble is the host and Richard Iawadi is the other, is the other team captain. And it's about comedians come on every week and they defend an unacceptable opinion. It's actually very funny. I shouldn't say actually, it's really funny.

• 14:31Speaker 03

  I like that.

• 14:33Speaker 02

  Yes, yeah, yes. I have a lot of work to do, a lot of work, a lot of work.

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• 15:57Speaker 02

  Vogue, I'm telling you, everyone's asking for you out here.

• 16:00Speaker 03

  I know they are. I had to find private.

• 16:02Speaker 02

  When is she going to release more music?

• 16:10Speaker 03

  What do we think about the chapel, roan drama?

• 16:14Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 16:16Speaker 03

  Oh.

• 16:17Speaker 02

  Oh, thank God you asked.

• 16:18Speaker 03

  Let me explain. Yeah, I know.

• 16:21Speaker 02

  Did you just say, let me explain? Oh, wow. I have never, ever heard you say that.

• 16:27Speaker 03

  Therapy, therapy.

• 16:29Speaker 02

  Boundary, yeah.

• 16:30Speaker 03

  There will be signs.

• 16:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, there will be signs.

• 16:34Speaker 02

  Put off all your friends and family to grow, yeah.

• 16:37Speaker 03

  That happened to me with somebody, by the way.

• 16:39Speaker 02

  What?

• 16:40Speaker 03

  They were doing therapy and one time they turned around to me, they were like, "I've cut most people off and like, there's a chance that you'll be cut off too because I'm, I'm going through intense therapy." And I just thought, Jesus Christ, this is...

• 16:50Speaker 02

  Whoa.

• 16:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, strange.

• 16:53Speaker 02

  And did they?

• 16:54Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah, I got the snip. Everybody got the snip. Everybody.

• 16:58Speaker 02

  Wow. I do think, listen, I know, because I know, we're not, we're not, we're not therapists, just in case, and there was any mix up there. Because I remember someone messaging, she was like, "I'm so disappointed in your opinion on Brooklyn Beckham. You've obviously never been the victim of estrangement, or victim of bad parents," or something like that. And I was like, "Well, I haven't." I said, "We're not, we're not therapists." But I, I did say, I was like, "I do think," not to this woman now, I just, I just left her, but I said, "I do think this, this trend of cutting everyone off is a little toxic."

• 17:26Speaker 03

  I do. It's, but I always think that if I have arguments, or if I'm arguing with more than one person, I'm like, "Oh my God, hang on, am I the common denominator here? Why am I fighting with so many people? This must have something to do with me." I don't like being the common denominator, but sometimes you find yourself down there.

• 17:43Speaker 02

  In the words of our great philosopher, Taylor Swift, "It is me. Hi, I'm the problem. It is me."

• 17:47Speaker 03

  Yeah, but sometimes now, when I am the common denominator, I say, "Right, this is what I'll do. I'll wait till they all apologize and then I won't be."

• 17:55Speaker 02

  Yeah. I'll shut them all out of my life. Yeah.

• 17:59Speaker 03

  Cut them off till death.

• 18:00Speaker 02

  Yeah, silent treatment. I'll silent treatment them to death.

• 18:04Speaker 03

  Until they crack.

• 18:07Speaker 03

  Someone close to me goes recently, they were like, I think we just need to have a chat about it. And I was like, I'll take you to the fucking grave before I have a chat about it. I'm not having a chat about it. We're moving on and we're just being fine.

• 18:20Speaker 02

  Yeah, okay, yeah, fair enough. Fair, fair. Sometimes something-

• 18:24Speaker 03

  It's either death or move on.

• 18:25Speaker 02

  I remember going to a therapy session before and she was, the therapist was saying, you know, sometimes when you get to the, sometimes when you get to the root of the problem. She's like, some of my clients decide, oh, okay, I've unearthed this memory of something. And actually, I don't want to unpack it any further. I'm happy to leave it there. I don't want, not everything has to be picked apart and unpacked, you know? Sometimes it is, sometimes less said, soonest amended.

• 18:51Speaker 03

  Yeah, like some people think that like, spending things, I've had a traumatic childhood. And I'm like, what? That's just an Irish childhood. And he's like, no, it seems tr- I was like, I had a bloody great time. Anyway, sorry, this has gone a different road. We're talking about Chapel Rowan.

• 19:05Speaker 02

  Sorry, Chapel Rowan. Now I am swashing in this mohair. I might have to take it off. I think that's why my glasses are screaming off.

• 19:11Speaker 03

  Clothing, you can't be smelly getting on the plane.

• 19:14Speaker 02

  I know. I have to go to a meeting after this. God knows what I'm going to the meeting for. I have no idea.

• 19:20Speaker 03

  Are you writing, are you, are you going to Pixar to talk about your next movie that you're gonna be drawing?

• 19:28Speaker 02

  Hello?

• 19:30Speaker 03

  Well, I gotta be in art.

• 19:35Speaker 02

  Let's be plus actually, let's be one.

• 19:37Speaker 03

  Get it, girl.

• 19:41Speaker 03

  I must plan a trip like that for myself over to LA. Okay, Chapel Rowan. Chapel Rowan was in a hotel in, was it Brazil?

• 19:51Speaker 02

  Okay, yeah.

• 19:52Speaker 03

  It was in Brazil. And so she's sitting in a hotel having her breakfast. And there was a football called-

• 19:59Speaker 03

  Georgina O'Frell.

• 20:00Speaker 02

  Oh, yeah, that's okay.

• 20:01Speaker 03

  Sorry. Yeah, I'm sorry if I'm not doing the name right. Anyway, his wife, who is married, who was, who has a child with Jude Law and her, so the, the, his wife, and this is why I never do the explaining. Anyway, Georgina, the footballer's wife, was having breakfast with her child, who's also Jude Law's child. And so she was sitting there and the, yeah.

• 20:21Speaker 02

  Oh, I didn't know that.

• 20:22Speaker 03

  That's why there's a big, a big link to the whole thing. Anyway, the footballer posted a story on his Instagram and basically said that his child didn't go up to Chaparron. She's a huge Chaparron fan and she was going to see her that night in concerts. And the child walked by Chaparron's table, looked at her, but didn't say anything, just to check that it was her, and then went back to her mother. Then, he said that Chaparron sent a security guard over and the security guard was shouting at the child and, and made her cry. She's an 11 year old girl and it was an absolute disgrace. And then they skipped the Chaparron concert that night because they were so shook by it. Everyone started calling Chaparron a mean girl and Miss Trunchbull and that she hates children.

• 21:02Speaker 02

  Miss Trunch, oh, that, oh, there, sorry. I was, I was wondering where the Miss Trunchbull thing was coming from, of course. Sorry.

• 21:08Speaker 03

  Get it, the choki.

• 21:10Speaker 02

  I forgot.

• 21:10Speaker 03

  And so she then comes back, Chaparron then comes back and says, that didn't happen. That wasn't my personal security. That was hotel security. Then, the mother of the child kind of came back and said, well, it was, you sent your security over. It was your security. So there's this little kind of back and forth. Now, the internet has kind of exploded and it's kind of showing times when Chaparron has been

• 21:33Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 21:34Speaker 03

  rude and mean. And there was a video circulating of her in an airport with her first, her personal security. And somebody was filming her and she goes, points to the guy and sends her security over. And the security starts going over to the person filming her. There's two things there. She's in an airport and she's being filmed and she doesn't want to be filmed. The problem of being a massive pop star is that people are going to film you. Paparazzis are going to take pictures of you when you're out and about in public. That's kind of.

• 21:59Speaker 02

  Is this from your, are you talking about anecdotally from when you released Good Girl?

• 22:04Speaker 03

  Yes, I was, it was a tough time for me. I was very, yes, massive pop star at number one in Ireland, if you didn't remember.

• 22:11Speaker 02

  Get through the streets.

• 22:13Speaker 03

  Craft and Street was a complete no-go for me.

• 22:17Speaker 02

  Couldn't go near Piccadilly Circus.

• 22:19Speaker 03

  Absolutely fucking not.

• 22:20Speaker 02

  I was annihilated.

• 22:22Speaker 03

  Mobbed, mobbed.

• 22:24Speaker 02

  As for the Hollywood Hills, like, Vogue, I'm telling you, everyone's asking for you out here.

• 22:28Speaker 03

  I know they are. I had to find private.

• 22:30Speaker 02

  When is she going to release more music? This is the most anticipated album since Gaga. I said, listen, I can't reveal. She's in the studio, that's all I can say, okay? That's all I can say.

• 22:43Speaker 03

  I've been working on some tunage, don't worry.

• 22:46Speaker 02

  She's laying tracks, she's laying pipes.

• 22:48Speaker 03

  There's a lot of rapping.

• 22:50Speaker 02

  There's something in the pipeline, okay? There's a lot of grime coming down the line.

• 22:55Speaker 03

  A lot of grime coming down. There you go. Joanna, listen, you could be on the album with rhymes like that, huh?

• 23:01Speaker 02

  Well, I will be. I will be doing the backing dancing, I assume.

• 23:06Speaker 03

  Of course you will.

• 23:07Speaker 02

  I don't want all that line, I don't want all those line dancing classes going to waste.

• 23:13Speaker 03

  Well, I will be doing my jazz, my tap dance at Street Tap and jazz.

• 23:18Speaker 02

  Yes. What, we can't waste those childhoods. Sorry, go on.

• 23:22Speaker 03

  So anyway, the internet is like kind of up in arms saying that she's a bit of a dick and that she's kind of can be quite rude to fans and stuff like that. But there seems to be this massive pylon now for Chapel Rowne over an incident that we don't actually know the full story to. And maybe she was just having a day where she was like, you know what, fuck off, let me just have my breakfast.

• 23:44Speaker 02

  I don't think the internet has ever waited to get the full story on anything. They're like, whoa, whoa, the internet, like, where's the nuance here?

• 23:52Speaker 03

  She's a bloody child's killer at this point. People are like, she's a murderer!

• 23:58Speaker 02

  What's your one's name? What's your one's name?

• 24:01Speaker 03

  Lucy Lappi.

• 24:02Speaker 02

  No.

• 24:05Speaker 03

  Similar, similar.

• 24:07Speaker 02

  The Lucy Lepi documentary, I don't know if we spoke about this, but did we speak about it? Sorry, let's stay on Chapel. Sorry, let's stay on Chapel. Let's stay on Chapel.

• 24:16Speaker 03

  Chapel, you're turning into me with the way you're changing your conversation. I love when this happens because it makes me feel more, more at ease and normal.

• 24:25Speaker 02

  I need a ritalin. Chapel Rowan, look, the truth of the matter is, she does have a bit of a rep for being

• 24:32Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:32Speaker 02

  ratty. But like, in the same breath, I can't imagine how annoying it must be. And like, it must be really annoying, even though you're making music, you're doing what you want to do. But if you, if you have a short fuse, and you're being like eyeballed at all times.

• 24:54Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 24:54Speaker 02

  I imagine it's annoying and she obviously just doesn't have the sense or the patience to keep her shit together. And she, or the personality for it. And she obviously loses the rag even now and again. But I did see the video where she came back and said, that was nothing to do with me. And she did seem quite, like, I believed her.

• 25:11Speaker 03

  I kind of believed her as well, but the thing about it is she did this thing on the red carpet where the paps were shouting at her and she's like, stop shouting at me. And people kind of applauded at her. I mean, when the pop shouted at me, I'm like, fucking, thank God they know my name. I'm thrilled.

• 25:24Speaker 02

  You're doing your spins and all, yeah.

• 25:27Speaker 03

  Get the back, get the back. They're like, get off, Leo DiCaprio is beside you, fuck off.

• 25:32Speaker 02

  They're like, folks, stop calling us to come out. We, we have other things to do. We can't come out every day on your phone calls.

• 25:40Speaker 03

  People were kind of applauding her for that. And I just think, and then she was leaving a restaurant and she started recording the past being like these scumbag paparazzi. And I was just like, dude, like, and then people were like, oh, wait, that's actually a bit mean. Like, you don't need to do that. Like, they are essentially just doing their job. And I think if they're respectful, she, she can just, I think it's a very touch and go thing. Once you get painted with that brush, it's hard not to be painted with that brush. And the internet is coming out with loads of different reasons as to why the story would make sense. And that actually she's a little bit of a mean girl.

• 26:11Speaker 02

  She's, I think, but like, she's just probably a bit ratty. She's just a bit of a ratty artist. And I think, and she got fame, it was very quick. Now, I say that because suddenly she was just, she just popped. Now, I'm sure it's never quick. There's like 10 years of hard graft there. But she did become Super, super famous in to a, to a level that as normal people, I don't think we'll ever understand like what that is like, unless of course I get this Pixar deal later.

• 26:40Speaker 03

  Which I'm really looking forward to.

• 26:41Speaker 02

  Yeah. And then of course this.

• 26:42Speaker 03

  Tell them, tell them about Gabby Stolhais and I was the fridge. Tell them in the UK. Tell them.

• 26:46Speaker 02

  Oh my God, I forgot that you were the fridge.

• 26:48Speaker 03

  Yeah, yeah, yeah. I've already, Joanne, I've already been in A-list movies. So just let them know.

• 26:53Speaker 02

  You've been in what? You've been in what?

• 26:55Speaker 03

  A-list movies. So just let them know. Okay.

• 26:56Speaker 02

  I totally forgot you were the fridge. That's actually, that's a really cool, that's a fucking, that's a cool cred.

• 27:02Speaker 02

  As seen as the fridge in, yes, Boobies Boo House, whatever it's called.

• 27:06Speaker 03

  The UK version of Gabby Stolhais, the UK version.

• 27:10Speaker 02

  But I would, I would imagine Chapel Round, and because then when those, when the seed gets planted, people are then probably looking to piss her off because now I don't think that, I don't think that child was a plant going to try and trigger into having like a reaction. But they probably look to kind of trigger her a bit so they can get content out of her. I don't know. I mean, listen, if I saw Chapel Round, I'd leave her well alone. My, my, my, the general vibe is leave her alone.

• 27:37Speaker 03

  I kind of leave most famous people alone though. Like Eminem doesn't really talk to a lot of people, like when he's out and about, when he's with Australia and stuff like that. Justin Bieber, did you see that video of him outside his apartment block? And like, there's girls like, can we have a hug? And he's like, no, you're outside my home. You shouldn't be here. This is too much. Like, don't come outside my home. And he like literally refused to give them a hug. Hang on a second. Did you see the picture of Justin Bieber and Usher having a little punch up at Beyonce and Jay-Z's Oscar party?

• 28:08Speaker 02

  What?

• 28:09Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 28:10Speaker 02

  No.

• 28:11Speaker 03

  And TMZ have decided that they're gonna do a massive deep dive and try and find out what it was. I think it's got to do with the Diddy stuff. Like, this is my own opinion. There's no basis to it. But wasn't there all that stuff going around about Justin Bieber? And like, Usher was hanging out with Justin Bieber when he was a 13 year old, like bringing him to the Diddy parties and all that kind of jazz. And I think that there's no love lost there.

• 28:37Speaker 02

  I'm gonna, Vogue, that's your homework for next week. You need to find out. Well, just listen to the TMZ podcast, I guess.

• 28:42Speaker 03

  Oh, I'll wait till TMZ. But TMZ, if they do a deep dive, they'll, I think they'll find it out. I, I, I wouldn't want TMZ trying to find out my business. They would.

• 28:51Speaker 02

  Did you see his videos resurfacing of getting arrested for that DUI?

• 28:55Speaker 03

  No, that's Justin Timberlake.

• 28:57Speaker 02

  Who are you talking about?

• 28:59Speaker 03

  Justin Bieber.

• 29:03Speaker 02

  Are you sure you haven't started that buzz ball? I was just gonna say, only that it's still in shot, I know I can defend myself.

• 29:13Speaker 03

  Sorry, are you talking about Justin Timberlake, the greatest video that we've seen on the internet? That poor fucker who like, two years ago was like, thank God they didn't release any of the footage. Now in 2026, they're releasing all the footage from his DUI rap.

• 29:26Speaker 02

  Why did they do that? Why did they, why did they do that? Did you see, did you see the hot, did you see the hot felon was interviewed?

• 29:34Speaker 03

  Yes.

• 29:35Speaker 02

  Is it Paul Brunson's podcast? Paul Brunson?

• 29:38Speaker 03

  Yes, Paul Brunson.

• 29:39Speaker 02

  Brunson, and he was saying that, like, when the whole thing popped off and he was in prison, that people, you only get three visits a week and people will come up and visit him, which me, and he would walk up to the section where you visit and he'd be like, I don't, to the, to the guards, he's like, I don't know that person. And they're like, what tough shit, you have to take the visit. So he takes us and he's saying to them, please don't come back, you're stopping my family coming in to see me. And they just kept coming back. I assume it was women.

• 30:05Speaker 03

  Yeah, 100%. God, if we'd have, if we'd have known, we would have signed ourselves up.

• 30:10Speaker 02

  Yeah, walked in, holding hands, wearing matching dungarees, like psychopaths.

• 30:21Speaker 02

  Can I not enjoy the company of another woman without wanting to go down on her now? Nope. Obviously not, folks, that's how I roll.

• 30:33Speaker 03

  Sorry, can we go back to Justin Timberlake? I don't know if anyone has seen, has seen the video. He, he was arrested for a DUI and was it in 2024? And now the clip has come out of when they arrested him, like the body cam footage. And he had said that he had only had one drink. That man had 14,000, he had 12 of those buzz, he had 12 of those buzz balls. He was absolutely deranged.

• 30:57Speaker 02

  Was he, he was buzzballed out of it. I did see his eyes, they're all big, they're all, they're all big weed smokers over here. He's probably smoking weed as well, was he, with the eyes? Glazed like little gel.

• 31:06Speaker 03

  I just thought he looked absolutely, completely out of it. And he was like, they were like, so what do you do? And he was like, I'm on a world tour.

• 31:14Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 31:15Speaker 03

  It's hard to explain. Well, actually, it's not hard to explain at all. Actually, you could just say I sing and dance. And he was like, I'm Justin Timberlake. My name is Justin Timberlake. I'm like, oh, God. And then in the, in the, in the police department, what do you call it? The police office I was gonna call it.

• 31:31Speaker 02

  Yeah, the police shop. The shop of the policeman in it, yeah.

• 31:35Speaker 03

  He was like, oh, he put my, me down as white. And then he just started laughing and he's like, only kidding. It's like, okay.

• 31:44Speaker 02

  Oh, God, Justin. Oh, God. I can't. Oh, God. We're trying to make a racial joke. What was the word? It's not the time.

• 31:51Speaker 03

  It's not the time.

• 31:53Speaker 02

  It's not the time. But did you see when, when Brittany was arrested recently for, again, a similar vibe? She put down celebrity as her job, which I thought was kind of made me a bit sad because it's like, you're a singer, you're a dancer. You're, you're, you're really talented. You're not just a celebrity. I feel like she's losing her confidence.

• 32:14Speaker 03

  I think, I think it's more like, you know, like you put down entertainer.

• 32:18Speaker 02

  Entertainer, yeah. Performer. I put down performer.

• 32:22Speaker 03

  Performer. Yeah, I say entertainer.

• 32:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 32:25Speaker 03

  God knows if I entertain anyone, but it's down.

• 32:27Speaker 02

  Would you not say TV presenter?

• 32:30Speaker 03

  I think it kind of does. It kind of, yeah, kind of.

• 32:33Speaker 02

  You're like author.

• 32:34Speaker 03

  They're like, author.

• 32:36Speaker 02

  Slash.

• 32:37Speaker 03

  Do you tell me slash? Used to be a model, but Irish model.

• 32:42Speaker 02

  The link to your IMDb, they're like, literally next. But I find it really strange over here. There's a, there's a lot of drink driving in the States, I've noticed.

• 32:53Speaker 03

  I wouldn't even have, and now I know I'm a bit of a wimp when it comes to breaking the rules, I am. But I wouldn't even have like, I wouldn't even have half a drink. I'd be too scared.

• 33:02Speaker 02

  Well, I think we're in Ireland and the UK, well, Ireland in particular, because I think in America. You can't even have a full one. And Ireland have like random traffic stops where they will, they will, they'll test you for drink and drugs. Whereas I don't think in the States they have them. I could be wrong. I think someone said that to me at some point. They're like, they don't do random testing. Although they must do, because how did Justin get stoned?

• 33:23Speaker 03

  Well, I think because he was probably driving backwards, reversing, reversing with no, with no lights on.

• 33:30Speaker 02

  They seem to be very laissez faire over here on the old drink drive. And I mean, I don't know a celebrity without a DUI at this stage. I might have to get one myself.

• 33:39Speaker 03

  I'd be in so much, imagine what your mom would say. I couldn't take, I couldn't bear that. Neil, oh my God, I wouldn't know, I wouldn't, just no thanks.

• 33:46Speaker 02

  I just, I pray for both of us, Vogue, for however long we are in this industry. But it wouldn't matter, if me and you both did no work from tomorrow on, if we just disappeared out of all public life, if we ever got arrested at any stage, it would end up, I think, they would end up, because you know that sometimes there's articles about people who did like one TV show in the 40s, but if they do something, if they do something embarrassing or illegal, it's always a little story.

• 34:17Speaker 03

  Oh, God.

• 34:18Speaker 02

  And my, I just, listen, I suppose what I'm saying is bring that ring light wherever you go, because you don't know, at some stage in your life, there might be a mugshot and you want to look good. Because it's gonna, it's gonna be in the papers. Particularly yours. Can you imagine the size of the Daily Mail mugshot photo?

• 34:34Speaker 03

  I'd be too, yeah, goddammit. No, I wouldn't know. I just, I, I, I don't want to get arrested ever. I don't like the look of the cells. They look, I don't want to be cold.

• 34:45Speaker 02

  Very minimalist.

• 34:45Speaker 03

  I don't want to sit there. Like, he had to, Justin Timberlake was in that cell overnight. Now, he only got a $500 fine and 40 hours of community service, which I felt like wasn't a lot.

• 34:56Speaker 02

  40 hours?

• 34:57Speaker 03

  That's it.

• 34:58Speaker 02

  How's he gonna fit that in on the world tour?

• 35:00Speaker 03

  Well, like, you could get, remember Naomi Campbell was doing that, picking up rubbish or something?

• 35:04Speaker 02

  Yeah, in a first, in a floor, floor length Versace gown. It was quite the statement. Well, listen, Justin, hope you're well. Hope you're okay.

• 35:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, he's fine now. It was two years ago. He's fine.

• 35:16Speaker 02

  Justin's having a hard time. Did the wife leave him yet? I think she did.

• 35:19Speaker 03

  No, I don't think she did.

• 35:20Speaker 02

  I think she left him.

• 35:21Speaker 03

  Jesus, we have terrible way of misinformation. Oh, there's my camera.

• 35:24Speaker 02

  There you go.

• 35:25Speaker 03

  There you go. No, she didn't leave him. Jessica Biel did not leave him. Google it there.

• 35:30Speaker 02

  Well, she should.

• 35:31Speaker 03

  Yeah, well, she should reconsider.

• 35:33Speaker 02

  She should have leave him.

• 35:34Speaker 03

  Jessica, have you seen the video? The video? Joanne, I want to ask you a few things, particularly Wu-Tang Clan, B.O. Shame. Could you tell me about that? Because I love the Wu-Tang Clan. I'm a big fan.

• 35:45Speaker 02

  Oh, is that video out there?

• 35:48Speaker 03

  No, you put it in the group. You put random sentences in the group.

• 35:52Speaker 02

  I did, I went, so I'm doing podcasts while I'm out here and I did Alana Glazer. Do you know Alana Glazer? Gypsy Rose Blanchard is gay. Have you seen this? The, speaking about paparazzi shots, when I, she's going out with a woman, there, there's, and when I say the, you know, the way like sometimes you don't know, you can't tell who's called who and where and what on who, do you know?

• 36:15Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 36:15Speaker 02

  We're talking about calling paparazzi shots, actually, this is my, they are the worst. They are the most obviously staged paparazzi videos I've ever seen. They are, it's so, I'm like, ah, Gypsy Rose.

• 36:28Speaker 03

  What a Gypsy, well, of course, Gypsy Rose, come on.

• 36:31Speaker 02

  These are a deep level of scarlet, like a really deep level of scarlet. If she was in a film, she would be like, even as an extra in the background, she would be incredibly bad at her job. It's so obvious.

• 36:41Speaker 03

  I ju, yeah, but I think they're always obvious. It's like people like, you know, when they're getting out of the pool and like they're stretching forward or like they're just on their permanent tippy toes like a Barbie doll.

• 36:50Speaker 02

  Yes.

• 36:51Speaker 03

  Like I told you, I know somebody who used to basically go away and set up like four shoots a day in all different bikinis and go down, like do the shoots for paparazzi and then just go home and that, and that would be it. And that would like, she would do that and she'd pay for her holiday.

• 37:05Speaker 02

  That's, I mean, like, it's not a bad idea. You know what I mean?

• 37:08Speaker 03

  No, I know, I know.

• 37:09Speaker 02

  Hustle culture, hustle it.

• 37:11Speaker 03

  So go on, tell me about the woo time.

• 37:13Speaker 02

  Alana Glazer.

• 37:14Speaker 03

  Yes, I know her.

• 37:16Speaker 02

  Star and writer of Broad City.

• 37:19Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 37:20Speaker 02

  She, I did her, she has a new podcast coming out and I was a guest on it.

• 37:25Speaker 03

  Okay.

• 37:25Speaker 02

  She also has a show coming up in Vickers Street, which, and I would highly recommend anyone around her.

• 37:31Speaker 03

  Oh, that's quite cool.

• 37:32Speaker 02

  Yeah, yeah, she's, she's about to go on tour and I would highly recommend going to her show because she is hilarious, massively, she's so smart and she is so sound. We were like, are we friends now?

• 37:44Speaker 03

  Are you a lesbian?

• 37:45Speaker 02

  Are we friends now?

• 37:47Speaker 03

  Gypsy Rose over there.

• 37:51Speaker 02

  You're gonna come back holding hands?

• 37:52Speaker 03

  Can I not enjoy, don't be jealous, folks, don't be jealous.

• 37:54Speaker 02

  Yeah, I am jealous because, okay, fine, you're just going on about her an awful lot.

• 37:58Speaker 03

  Can I not admire, can I not enjoy the company of another woman without wanting to go down on her now?

• 38:03Speaker 02

  So.

• 38:04Speaker 03

  Nope.

• 38:04Speaker 02

  Obviously not, folks, that's how I roll. I think I'd be very happy, I'd be a very happy member of the lesbian community if I could just find the right conversion therapy, to be honest.

• 38:13Speaker 03

  I'd love to be a lesbian, wouldn't it be great?

• 38:16Speaker 02

  Well, I've spoken to lesbians about this to, to a great extent. And they're like, because I was like, oh, you know, blah, blah, blah with men. And they're like, Joanne, it's just as complicated over here. It's not like you're just running around with your best mate all day. Like, it's just that there are still, you know, massive issues in lesbian relationships as well. I was like, yeah.

• 38:35Speaker 03

  Imagine, imagine, okay, we'll just, we'll go back to the commune. I want to be in like an estate with all my friends. And we all live in our own houses, but we're in the estate and like we pop over to each other's houses whenever we feel like it.

• 38:46Speaker 02

  Yeah, do you remember, do you remember the woman who was running the orgasm retreats?

• 38:50Speaker 03

  No. Is that that thing that we went to?

• 38:54Speaker 02

  It was, well, we tried.

• 38:55Speaker 03

  It was that thing where we had to like, we were doing a pilot for a TV show and they were like, do it. And we were like, no.

• 39:02Speaker 02

  Well, that was different, what they, yeah, that was the sex.

• 39:05Speaker 03

  We really want this show, but no.

• 39:08Speaker 02

  Yes, we draw the line. Yeah, pulling ourselves off on camera.

• 39:13Speaker 03

  Yeah, thanks.

• 39:15Speaker 02

  Thanks, Amelia, we're gonna, we're gonna cut, we're gonna cut there, okay?

• 39:20Speaker 03

  If it's for Netflix, if you can promise Netflix, we'll do it.

• 39:23Speaker 02

  Amazon Prime, maybe. Not Channel Four.

• 39:30Speaker 02

  That was a TV show we filmed, which is still up on the, I think it's up, see if it's up on the player, we should probably give it a plug over here. And we were at, we were, that was kind of a wellness retreat, wasn't it? It was kind of like get to know your body kind of vibes. And it was, she shut off the lights and it was very much start, you know, feel yourself and feel, you know, enjoy your pleasure, your pleasure, I don't know, pleasures. Anyway, and, and we did, but only to a certain degree.

• 39:55Speaker 03

  So anyway. We spanked each other and everything.

• 39:57Speaker 02

  We did.

• 39:58Speaker 03

  You spanked me.

• 40:00Speaker 02

  I know, I think you spanked me.

• 40:03Speaker 03

  Oh God.

• 40:04Speaker 02

  I still have your spine paddle called Daddy's Dirty Girl or whatever that company.

• 40:08Speaker 03

  I've given up. You can keep it. Stop taunting me with this.

• 40:14Speaker 02

  It needs to be revarnished at this stage. It's gotten quite the use.

• 40:19Speaker 03

  If we ever fall out, I'm gonna call the police and I'm gonna say, I'm gonna say I have a robbery.

• 40:24Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 40:24Speaker 03

  This, this girl has stolen from me and I want you to get it back.

• 40:27Speaker 02

  The, well, we've gone completely off topic now, but the orgasm retreats, these orgasm retreats where you would go into the woods in, somewhere in Minnesota or something. And it was just, it was an all female commune, if memory serves me correctly. And then they would, men would come in and like wank them off in the mornings.

• 40:48Speaker 03

  Interesting.

• 40:49Speaker 02

  Yeah, in a circle.

• 40:51Speaker 03

  Could you choose them on?

• 40:52Speaker 02

  I don't know. I can't remember that detail, but I do think then she was out of it as being a bit of a cult. Anyway, Alana Glazer, right?

• 40:59Speaker 03

  Anyway, Alana Glazer, yes.

• 41:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, Alana Glazer. I bought this really cool, I think Wu-Tang Clan varsity top in one of these kind of secondhand, like decent.

• 41:13Speaker 03

  You know how much I love them and I'm a true fan. I know that you bought that for me and you've brought it back from LA, so I appreciate it.

• 41:19Speaker 02

  But you know that Lottie, my publicist, does the PR for the Wu-Tang Clan? Did you know that?

• 41:24Speaker 03

  Excuse me?

• 41:25Speaker 02

  Yeah, I know.

• 41:26Speaker 03

  Do you know how, like, they're all in my Spotify. Wu-Tang Clan is like one of my favourite rap groups in the whole world.

• 41:31Speaker 02

  Well, listen, I've got, I've got a way in. Do you want to meet them?

• 41:36Speaker 03

  Yeah.

• 41:37Speaker 02

  Well, you can't.

• 41:44Speaker 03

  Oh, she's gone so LA now.

• 41:45Speaker 02

  Yeah. I was like, Vogue, I can't have you fangirling over the guys, okay? It's embarrassing.

• 41:51Speaker 03

  Name one of them.

• 41:53Speaker 02

  Wu, Tang and Clan.

• 41:56Speaker 03

  So go on, you got a lovely Wu-Tang top.

• 42:00Speaker 03

  They just played London. I was in Dublin. I was at the Paddy's Day Parade.

• 42:03Speaker 02

  I'm actually off to meet Wu now.

• 42:05Speaker 03

  Oh, Wu, what a cool guy.

• 42:07Speaker 02

  And then Clan's coming in later. So I'm with Alana Glazer and wearing a Wu-Tang Clan top.

• 42:14Speaker 03

  Wu-Tang Clan.

• 42:20Speaker 02

  I put it second hand. So me and Alana, we're doing all the TikToks and all that stuff. And I realise, oh my God. So we're like hugging and we're doing kind of like all this. Like, we're really close. And I noticed, I was like, whoa. I was like, Jesus, Alana. I said, either me or Alana Glazer have some serious hygiene issues there.

• 42:40Speaker 03

  Poor Alana.

• 42:42Speaker 02

  I had to say, do you know, only like I have to say it. And I was like, Alana, I have a very strong odor. I said, I'm not, no shade if it's you, but I'm terrified it's me. So only the two of us spent about 15 minutes smelling each other's armpits to see who it was.

• 42:56Speaker 03

  Oh, no.

• 42:56Speaker 02

  It was, well, it was obviously Woo or whoever wore the top before me. Cause I'm assuming it came from the lads. I assumed they thrifted it themselves. I absolutely reeked. It was very embarrassing. And then I was like, it's a second hand. And she's like, no, no, it's fine. I don't wear deodorant either. I was like, no, no, Alana, I do wear deodorant. This is the once off, okay? This is the once off because I'm such a big Wu-Tang Clan fan that when I saw the top, I had to get it. I was excited. I didn't have time to check the armpits. I assumed, because it was a high end thrift shop, that that would have been looked after before. Like, what are you gonna sell me, dirty knickers as well? Come on.

• 43:29Speaker 03

  Is that where you go knicker shopping?

• 43:31Speaker 02

  Up your game, charity shop. Up your game.

• 43:34Speaker 03

  The only thing I would say is, you know, like a football top, sometimes when someone sweats in in material like that, it sticks.

• 43:41Speaker 02

  Yeah.

• 43:41Speaker 03

  So actually, as much of a fan as I am, you can keep the top.

• 43:44Speaker 02

  Yeah, you know, I know, I know exactly what you mean. Some, some material just doesn't, it's very hard. Like my Adidas tracksuit that I wear for the PinaFol show, when I say, when, I have a couple of them, but when this tour ends, they will be burnt. Like, they will be put on a bonfire.

• 44:00Speaker 03

  I have a brand new one that you can have.

• 44:01Speaker 02

  Yeah, no, I do have a load of them.

• 44:03Speaker 03

  It feels a bit strange for me to wear that. I just, I feel like I'm literally dressing up as you, do you know what I mean? Like, it's Halloween.

• 44:09Speaker 02

  I even, even I think it's strange seeing you in it.

• 44:12Speaker 03

  I can't wear this. I wore the, I just wore the top. I was like, I'll get away with the top. Then I was like, no, I feel like everyone's saying, look at her fucking copycat.

• 44:19Speaker 02

  Yeah, it's like, oh, just booking Apollo, why don't you, huh?

• 44:23Speaker 03

  It's like that time you wore my jumpsuit and then it was, that was it then. Oh, Joanne Owens jumpsuits. And I was like, it's my fucking jumpsuit.

• 44:31Speaker 02

  That was the Prosecco Express jumpsuit. Yeah, I know. I did steal that, Nick. I did steal that.

• 44:42Speaker 02

  I'm off to, eh, Universal.

• 44:45Speaker 03

  That's very exciting.

• 44:46Speaker 02

  I'm off to have lunch with Warner Brothers.

• 44:48Speaker 03

  Pop into Netflix on the way home, will you?

• 44:50Speaker 02

  I'll be like, I assume it's gonna be two brothers.

• 44:55Speaker 03

  Well, I'll tell the listeners what you put in the group, right? Brunch girlfriend press up. Remind me, I wanna do an intentional vid about pinching. Spilling seats in the bar. Punch the monkey getting a beard. Lana Glaser, baby child ring. B.O. Shame, Wu-Tang Clan, The Housemaid and Hilary Duff. You've had an extremely busy week.

• 45:16Speaker 02

  I met all of them.

• 45:20Speaker 03

  This is the stuff we wake up to, that Joanne has thought towards on. Brilliant.

• 45:26Speaker 02

  Send it to the group. Brilliant. I don't know, like, I watched The Housemaid on the plane to...

• 45:32Speaker 03

  Was it brilliant?

• 45:34Speaker 02

  It's, it's much better than I thought it was gonna be. So I, I bought, I thought I was the only person in the world that didn't like The Housemaid. I bought the book and I was like, what is all this banging on about The Housemaid? And I didn't finish it, which, whatever, you know, which life is short, you know what I mean? If you don't wanna finish a book, don't finish a book.

• 45:50Speaker 03

  I don't think, if you're not enjoying a book, don't put the work in. You don't have to, and exactly, you'll be dead soon.

• 45:56Speaker 02

  You'll be dead.

• 45:57Speaker 03

  So just don't waste time reading.

• 45:59Speaker 02

  In the words of Kim Cattrall, I don't wanna waste a second of my life doing anything I don't enjoy.

• 46:04Speaker 03

  Yeah, me too.

• 46:04Speaker 02

  There's been, there's been a lot of Sex and the City chat over here. One of my favourite lines of Sex and the City. I think it's one of the most iconic lines in TV history. When Samantha's phone rings and a man is on the other end, he's like, I'm leaving my wife. And she's like, who is this? She didn't even know, she was like, she was like, we're barely hooking up, do you know what I mean?

• 46:22Speaker 03

  Please don't.

• 46:23Speaker 02

  Yeah, please don't. Yeah, and then there's a wife comes on the phone, she's like, Samantha? And she's like, oh my god. Anyway, so I watched the film and it is actually really good. Now, it's a bit preposterous.

• 46:33Speaker 03

  Is it Florence Pugh? Why do I think it's Florence Pugh?

• 46:35Speaker 02

  No, it's Amanda Seyfried and...

• 46:38Speaker 03

  Sydney Sweeney.

• 46:40Speaker 02

  Sydney Sweeney. And, and the other, I think he's a Hemsworth, one of those hot, big lads.

• 46:45Speaker 03

  Chris, probably not the, not the, the, the medium Hemsworth. The best one is.

• 46:51Speaker 02

  I don't know, he's one of those, one of those.

• 46:53Speaker 03

  The blonde one.

• 46:53Speaker 02

  And his ar- the arms are arming.

• 46:57Speaker 03

  They are absolutely gorgeous.

• 46:58Speaker 02

  Oh my god. But like, the, the storyline is a little preposterous, but it was actually, I did actually quite enjoy it. And I thought Amanda Seyfried was brilliant in it. And I also thought the other one, I can't fuck, why can't I remember her name?

• 47:10Speaker 03

  Sydney Sweeney.

• 47:11Speaker 02

  Was also brilliant in it. But it was like, she has an affair, spo- sorry, spoilers, spoilers.

• 47:17Speaker 03

  Well, I might watch this on the plane, so am I meant to not listen to this bit either? I'm gonna, actually, I don't care, I'd Google the end anyway, so it doesn't matter. I feel like my thoughts are it's a hand that rocks a cradle kind of movie, is it? Or no?

• 47:30Speaker 02

  There's, it's a li- it's a little kind of gaslighty, kind of, it's, it's not really a horror film in, in any, by any stretch. But it's easily watchable, pleasant, as my mother would say, although there is abuse in it, so I shouldn't really say it was pleasant. But I enjoyed it. While I sat and ate a whole tube of, um, sea, not sea salted, what's that, Pringles, what's, what's the?

• 47:52Speaker 03

  Sare cream, sare cream, my favourite ones.

• 47:53Speaker 02

  They didn't have sare cream.

• 47:55Speaker 03

  Oh my god, not ready salted.

• 47:57Speaker 02

  Whole thing already salted.

• 47:59Speaker 03

  Oh, I wouldn't even, I wouldn't. Pointless, not a flavour.

• 48:03Speaker 02

  What a waste.

• 48:05Speaker 03

  That is a waste.

• 48:06Speaker 02

  Of nothing. Speaking of books, I have another book for our book club that never happens and, and never comes to fruition.

• 48:13Speaker 03

  Well, I do.

• 48:13Speaker 02

  How's Hamlet going?

• 48:15Speaker 03

  Well, no, because I'm actually doing Marion Key's Last Chance Saloon, because I did get out of reading and I always think Marion gets me back into it. So I'm doing this, and then I have Cathy Burke's book that I'm taking away with me.

• 48:27Speaker 02

  I told you, I, I, I gave, I gave you advice on the Cathy Burke book.

• 48:31Speaker 03

  I, Joanne, I have not even an ounce.

• 48:34Speaker 02

  Has to be audible.

• 48:35Speaker 03

  I'm not an ounce of attention span. There is no way I would be, I can't, if something's in my ears, I just, I can't, I, I have really bad attention span for that.

• 48:44Speaker 02

  Really?

• 48:45Speaker 03

  Yeah, I have to read.

• 48:46Speaker 02

  If I try and listen to anything, like, kind of academ- you know, like, I'm not academic, I mean, who, what am I? I just mean, like, with any sort of, like, kind of pop psychology stuff, I zoom out completely, but I can listen to stories in my ears.

• 49:01Speaker 03

  I used to buy books about the Russian Revolution and stuff like that, thinking, do you know what, now I'm into reading, this should be the kind of jazz that I'll read.

• 49:10Speaker 02

  No, no, Anna Karenina, no, no, no, no.

• 49:16Speaker 02

  I'm gonna, I'm gonna jump from a Colleen Hoover to a James Joyce.

• 49:19Speaker 03

  I genuinely, I was like, Colleen Hoover, and I was going into the troubles in Northern Ireland. I was like, I need to know more about my country. And then I was like, yeah, just, they're so different, so different.

• 49:27Speaker 02

  I have the same, I started a history of Ireland podcast. And do you know what? I actually really enjoyed it and I will go back to it. I will go back to it. I will go back to it.

• 49:36Speaker 03

  Keep telling yourself that.

• 49:38Speaker 02

  I will go back to it.

• 49:39Speaker 03

  Okay, Woo.

• 49:41Speaker 03

  Will we start calling you Woo now? Is that your new name?

• 49:44Speaker 02

  Who are they? Anyway, whatever.

• 49:48Speaker 03

  The colours aren't even that nice. I don't know why you bought it. It's like black and yellow.

• 49:53Speaker 02

  Because I am a huge Wu-Tang Clan fan.

• 49:55Speaker 03

  Okay, Clan Clan, okay.

• 49:57Speaker 02

  Anyway, I've ju- I finished Tanya Sweeney's book, Esther's Now Following You. I really enjoyed it, really enjoyed it.

• 50:02Speaker 03

  Oh, I love her. She's a great writer.

• 50:04Speaker 02

  She is a great writer and I think that's going to be turned into a film. That's my, that's my personal, personal opinion. But anyway, this, I'm dying to read it. So Jeanette McCurdy, remember, did you end up reading I'm Glad My Mum Died in the end?

• 50:16Speaker 03

  I absolutely adored it. If you've got a new book, I haven't got it yet.

• 50:22Speaker 02

  Half his age. So I think it's, well, it's a fiction, but I think it's actually based on the fact that she, I think she was hooking up with one of her college professors or something when she was quite young. So I'm gonna start that when this panel show finishes. I have to work my tits off for the panel show and then I'm gonna, and then I'm gonna start this. Very excited. Huge Jeanette McCurdy fan. Fantastic writer.

• 50:40Speaker 03

  No, but if you haven't read I'm Glad My Mum Died, you need to. I remember Theodore found that book and he was like, why, why is it called this? Why would she say that? And I was like, oh.

• 50:48Speaker 02

  What?

• 50:50Speaker 03

  Yeah, because he can read, obviously. So he was like, I'm glad my mum died. Why does it say that? Why did she say that? Because he loves, is it iCarly that he watches? No, Sam and Cass. So he knows her from Sam and Cass.

• 51:03Speaker 02

  See, this is why I always say, the pick or the child, the better.

• 51:08Speaker 02

  Less questions asked.

• 51:09Speaker 03

  I know, I know. He's very clever.

• 51:11Speaker 02

  Less questions asked.

• 51:12Speaker 03

  Anyway, that's it, Joanne, for the main episode. Everyone, thank you so much for listening. I hope it's not too difficult to follow. We apologize. Joanne has not taken her meds and she usually controls what I say.

• 51:27Speaker 03

  She usually keeps me on the straight and narrow. So now it's just been.

• 51:30Speaker 02

  I've eaten them all. I've eaten all of them. Anyway, listen, I better go back to America trying to crack it.

• 51:36Speaker 03

  Enjoy Pixar, right? Put in a good word for me.

• 51:39Speaker 02

  I'm off to, uh, Universal. I'm off to have.

• 51:42Speaker 03

  Very exciting.

• 51:42Speaker 02

  I'm off to have lunch with Warner Brothers.

• 51:44Speaker 03

  Pop into Netflix on the way home as well, will you?

• 51:46Speaker 02

  I'll be like, I assume it's going to be two brothers. No more than.

• 51:50Speaker 03

  Your voice, it is.

• 51:51Speaker 02

  Where are the lads? Yeah, the two bunnies.

• 51:54Speaker 03

  She's been into Disney too. She was looking for Walt.

• 51:56Speaker 02

  Yeah, Walt. No, in fairness now, I do know Walt is frozen.

• 52:01Speaker 03

  Yes, I do. Everyone knows.

• 52:02Speaker 02

  Yeah, everyone knows that.

• 52:03Speaker 03

  Is that really true or is that a myth? Is that true?

• 52:05Speaker 02

  I think that is. I've decided to think it's true.

• 52:09Speaker 03

  Let's ask ChatGPT quickly because we don't want to leave anyone hanging.

• 52:12Speaker 02

  I think that's a Google question.

• 52:14Speaker 03

  Why ChatGPT? No, everybody knows that. No, do you know what, Joanne? I cycle everywhere. I need to start doing a bit of damage, a bit of damage somewhere. Is Walt Disney frozen?

• 52:27Speaker 02

  You should be entitled to burn your clothes if that's the case. Or if you cycle everywhere, you could, you could spend a grand on Sheen. That's what you could do.

• 52:36Speaker 03

  No, he is, Walt Disney is not frozen. This is a longstanding myth. When he died in 1966, he was cremated and his ashes were interred at Forest Lawn Memorial Park. Oh.

• 52:52Speaker 02

  Well, if he's not, if he's not frozen, he better be at this meeting. Trying to woo me.

• 52:58Speaker 03

  I genuinely, I would have, I would have put money on that, him being frozen. I don't know. Should we tell the listeners? That it feels a bit disappointing now that I know that. Should we just not tell?

• 53:08Speaker 02

  We should put a spoiler alert if anyone's very committed to the story that Walt Disney is frozen.

• 53:13Speaker 03

  Yeah. Spoiler alert, we're about to tell you if Walt Disney is frozen or not, so if you just wanna pretend that he's-

• 53:19Speaker 02

  Is anyone frozen, folk? Google that there. Is anyone frozen?

• 53:22Speaker 03

  Ah, listen, I'm not doing that much cycling, but I'll do this last one. Is anyone frozen after death? Or I wonder if anyone's been shot into space? James Bedford, 1967, still preserved today. Whoever that man is, I'm sorry if I don't know who he is. Do you know who he is? Nope. Probably just loaded. American psychology professor. There you go.

• 53:46Speaker 02

  Oh.

• 53:47Speaker 03

  I just don't imagine, yeah, well, no, there's other people that are frozen, obviously. I just don't think that we're gonna be able to be brought back. I've decided now that I'm moving on to the next life.

• 53:54Speaker 02

  Well, I certainly don't wanna be defrosted. I mean, in what state are you gonna come back in? Do you know what I mean?

• 53:59Speaker 03

  Not great.

• 54:00Speaker 02

  You come back, you're defrosted back to life. The year is 2042, no, that's only a 20, it's not, the year is like 3063. There's no oil, there's no water, it's apocalyptic, it's all very Mad Max, all your friends are dead, you've no money, you've no job. What's the point?

• 54:16Speaker 03

  So that's it, we've decided, yeah, we don't wanna be frozen. Thank you, but no, thank you.

• 54:20Speaker 02

  No. I want to die and be left alone and then cremated and put in a bespoke prosecco, or not prosecco, bespoke Prozac tube, just like Carrie Fisher.

• 54:33Speaker 03

  I don't know if that's true either, but everyone, thank you so much for listening.

• 54:37Speaker 02

  That is true. That is true.

• 54:39Speaker 03

  Is it?

• 54:40Speaker 02

  Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's it for this week. Thanks for listening. Make sure to check out our YouTube channel. You'll get to see my lovely mohair top and my change into my unironed pink t-shirt and my sunglasses that make me look like I have river blindness.

• 54:57Speaker 03

  Well, I've got long hair, so you can see that.

• 55:00Speaker 02

  Jesus.

• 55:01Speaker 03

  Spoiler alert.

• 55:02Speaker 02

  We'll talk to you later. Bye.

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