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0:02 Speaker 00 This is a Global Player original podcast.
0:15 Speaker 01 Hello and welcome to My Therapist Ghosted Me with me, Vogue Williams and Joanne McNally. And we are together in studio.
0:23 Speaker 02 We're together in studio.
0:24 Speaker 01 Yeah.
0:24 Speaker 02 Now, if anyone's looking at this, my neck is a different colour to my face because I got the wrong time for the podcast and I've just thrown, I've just splattered a load of foundation.
0:31 Speaker 01 That's my foundation.
0:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, splattered, I've just gone Vogue to spray a load of foundation on my face. I have to say to you, did you hear that, did you see the story that went viral about the American influencer? And an Irish guy slipped into her DMs and she fell in love with him and moved to Ireland to set up her life with them.
0:45 Speaker 01 No.
0:45 Speaker 02 And she's just, they were doing Morning Ireland and all, they did loads of press around it.
0:48 Speaker 01 Stop.
0:49 Speaker 02 And she's just come out to say he's been cheating on her.
0:51 Speaker 01 Oh, no.
0:53 Speaker 02 I'm not laughing at the situation, I'm just laughing at like the rigmarole and the romantic story and everyone was like, it was such a lovely story.
1:02 Speaker 01 We're going on holidays.
1:03 Speaker 02 We're going on holidays.
1:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
1:04 Speaker 02 We're going on a team building exercise. Jo, sorry, you.
1:07 Speaker 01 We're going, we're going on holidays.
1:09 Speaker 03 When you use the word team, it sort of makes it sound like.
1:12 Speaker 02 You're going.
1:13 Speaker 01 Jo, there's no I in team, okay? This isn't about you.
1:16 Speaker 02 Yeah, because you're not, so it's team, but it's not.
1:18 Speaker 03 There is a V and a J.
1:21 Speaker 01 You can come. You've got two small kids and a dog at home.
1:24 Speaker 02 This is the great thing about inviting Joe, because you know he can't go.
1:27 Speaker 01 Yeah, you can come.
1:28 Speaker 03 Just feels a bit like an afterthought, but just sure it's fine.
1:30 Speaker 01 You can come. We've invited you now. Joanne and I decided, Joanne said last night, listen, I'm desperate to go on holidays. I'll even go, what did, I actually have to get the messenger.
1:41 Speaker 02 I said, I'll even go with you and your family to say that.
1:45 Speaker 01 Just the way you said it. Where is it?
1:50 Speaker 01 Let's plan something. I'm willing to go with your family.
1:55 Speaker 01 Like a sidecar.
1:57 Speaker 03 It's just rather twisted.
1:58 Speaker 02 Like a sidecar?
1:59 Speaker 01 I said, no, they're not coming.
2:03 Speaker 02 Yeah, I was on a plane coming home from my scuba trip in Morocco where it just rained all the time. And it was absolutely freezing cold. So before the, this was supposed to be a sun holiday. This was though, you know, this was for my annual thirst trap. Yeah. I did an annual thirst trap in Cape Town and I dined it, dined off for the whole year. And it's time to do another thirst trap. Now, I did enjoy myself a bit over Christmas. I'm not in the same shape I was. It doesn't matter. You can post, I put the apps on and AI and post or whatever. I was like, if you're gonna design a digital guide to put the, put the apps on. But I was packing, I was getting my bikinis ready and the people were messaging, they're like, it's freezing. I just didn't, I never thought Morocco got cold. Me neither. It's in Africa. People were like, bring, it was almost like bring a hot water bottle. What? Someone was like, bring a fleece, bring mittens, bring a hat. So when we got it.
2:48 Speaker 02 Did you pack properly? Cause you're finally.
2:49 Speaker 02 I, I did. Okay, that's good. I bought a big jacket, which I really needed. Anyway, and then. You need a puffer? I bought a puffer. Oh my god. And Vogue, unlike yourself, I can't do thirst traps in bad weather. I have to be a little more demure. You can get away with it. I do, listen, I do it in the snow. Exactly. Well, I need more of a creative arc. I need a journey. It needs to be more authentic. If I'm just in my bikini in the snow, people are gonna think I was having a nervous breakdown.
3:12 Speaker 02 I would use the rain as a prop. You know what I mean? I would say, isn't this funny? You would. I'm in the rain, yeah, I would. Yeah, you'd be dancing in the rain and be sexy and attractive. No, not sexy and attractive, just trying to, trying to sell tan, really. Yeah, but you get away with the beep beeps. You get away with the snowy beep beeps. Why don't you just hang, hang your anxious preoccupied bags off your nipples and say, I'm doing it for marketing? The two micros. Two of the micro bags on each nipple. It's not a bad idea, actually.
3:38 Speaker 02 Sell the new fanny packs. Yeah, don't have bikini bottoms on, just have a fanny pack. Just have a fanny pack. So I was desperately disappointed. So I know the, the lads who follow me are going to be. I'm sorry, guys, you're gonna have to wait for the annual thirst trap. There is no wang wang material this month. No, this month is dry. I'm taking her away. We're going to Greece. Dry traps. We're not going to, now Greece is cold now. We're not going there till like May. Can you wait till May? Unless I can feed you up, you're not going anywhere in a bikini but you for a thirst trap. I just, I. I'll be the photographer. No, yeah, fine. I'm like, you can't squat for a month before you come away with me, Vogue. If there isn't a bit of cellulite, I'm not going. There is, don't worry, it's always there. I'll go under, I'll go under the Zara lights.
4:20 Speaker 02 Zara lights.
4:21 Speaker 01 The lights in the dressing room there are offensive.
4:24 Speaker 02 Oh, yeah. Hairdresser lights are always the worst. You're like, God, I knew I was ugly, but I didn't think I was that ugly.
4:28 Speaker 01 Oh, and then when you get your hair painted to your head, you're like, I am monstrous.
4:33 Speaker 02 With all the tinfoil and all, you look like Joe.
4:35 Speaker 01 Jesus.
4:36 Speaker 02 Joe, what's his name? Joe. Jim Cor.
4:42 Speaker 02 I, do you know what? I was actually, I was in the hairdressers the other day. And I went in and got a violently good blow drying brain sugar in Dublin, shout out to them. But I was chatting to somebody whose name I will not say, just in case she doesn't want to be.
4:55 Speaker 01 Okay.
4:55 Speaker 02 Knowing that she's having these conversations. We got into a bit of conspiracy chat. And she, we, she was, you like conspiracy? I said, I do. I'm, I think it's, I think more fact finder is what I like to call myself.
5:05 Speaker 01 Yeah.
5:05 Speaker 02 Rather than conspiracy theorist. I said, you know, I like a light one, like a fun one, you know?
5:09 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
5:09 Speaker 02 I'm not into like the kind of moon landing was a film set.
5:12 Speaker 01 No, no, no, no, no.
5:13 Speaker 02 And she said, well, actually, she said Buzz Aldrin has come out to say he never went.
5:18 Speaker 01 Buzz Aldrin did come out to say he never went.
5:20 Speaker 02 I meant to look into the moon landing thing.
5:22 Speaker 01 He did. He said he, Buzz Aldrin came in.
5:25 Speaker 02 Google it there, Jo.
5:26 Speaker 01 Spencer was interviewing, uh, an astronaut, as you do on his podcast.
5:31 Speaker 02 Yeah.
5:31 Speaker 01 And, uh, and he was interviewing an astronaut and he, he asked the astronaut about Buzz Aldrin's comments because Buzz Aldrin had just come out. Your man got really pissed off and was like, that's really stupid. Why would you ask a question like that? It's like Buzz Aldrin literally said he didn't land on the moon. Yeah.
5:46 Speaker 02 Is he, that, that's a really genuine question. You can't get annoyed about that.
5:50 Speaker 01 Isn't that true, Jo?
5:51 Speaker 03 I got a headline here from Reuters in twenty twenty two. Fact check. Buzz Aldrin interview about moon landing is not proof that it was faked.
5:59 Speaker 01 No, it's not proof, but Buzz Aldrin did say it and he was on the moon.
6:02 Speaker 03 He was referring to animations used by broadcasters at the time in their coverage of the moon landing intercut with real footage. The moon landing did take place and men did walk on the moon.
6:13 Speaker 01 I mean, you just don't know. It's the AI stuff. Did you see that thing about Russia being under all that snow? That wasn't real. Did you see that this week? All the, all the sky rises, all the high rises buildings, sorry, were all under all the snow up to like the seventy first floor. And I was like, what? Yeah, but it wasn't true. I just found out today. Tell me about Morocco.
6:31 Speaker 02 So, the men.
6:34 Speaker 01 Gorgeous.
6:35 Speaker 02 When I say it is wall to wall knockouts.
6:38 Speaker 01 Really?
6:39 Speaker 02 They're just flat, they are, I was aghast. I was taken aback. And when I say I was vibing.
6:47 Speaker 02 One taxi driver, I was like, I'm willing to convert to Islam, so I bought the Quran off Amazon. I'll get the audible version to go. It says it's a hundred and seventy-five hours.
6:54 Speaker 01 Hundred and seventy-five hours?
6:56 Speaker 02 A lot of Google Translate, so I'm not getting the nails put on for a while, because I'm going to be flat out trying to translate the Quran. Then I'm gonna go back.
7:02 Speaker 01 Yeah.
7:02 Speaker 02 And I'm gonna try and marry that taxi driver and live a very happy life.
7:04 Speaker 01 Oh, they're just so gorgeous.
7:05 Speaker 02 Oh, my god.
7:07 Speaker 01 Were they into you?
7:09 Speaker 02 A hundred percent.
7:10 Speaker 01 Really?
7:11 Speaker 02 Well, I was paying him, so I don't know.
7:15 Speaker 01 He was mad about me.
7:17 Speaker 02 Mad about me.
7:18 Speaker 01 Let me hang on, I want to Google Moroccan men.
7:20 Speaker 02 Gorgeous. One of them had me dressed, he put the scarf on me and all.
7:23 Speaker 01 Stop, oh my god, he was really into you.
7:25 Speaker 02 Well, that was a different guy, that was a guy in the market again, he was trying to sell me something.
7:28 Speaker 01 Oh my god.
7:29 Speaker 02 Did you not see me?
7:31 Speaker 01 Google Moroccan men here, what the hell?
7:33 Speaker 02 I know, we are robbed over here.
7:35 Speaker 03 We're in danger of generalising a little bit, I'm sure there's Moroccan men.
7:37 Speaker 02 It's positive racism, Jo.
7:39 Speaker 01 There is a few Moroccan mingers, but it's mainly top tenors that I'm seeing here.
7:44 Speaker 02 Even like, I was, we went to a farmhouse.
7:47 Speaker 01 Fucking hell, look at him. Jesus, was that the taxi driver?
7:51 Speaker 02 Similar vibes.
7:52 Speaker 01 Oh my.
7:54 Speaker 02 No one can see, but I think she's Googled a perfume model.
7:56 Speaker 01 Yes, but he's Moroccan.
7:58 Speaker 02 There you go. War to war rides.
8:02 Speaker 01 I used to always say Iranians were the hottest nation. But the Moroccans are really coming up fast here.
8:09 Speaker 02 Well, they're coming up fast. It just goes to show.
8:13 Speaker 01 Moroccan women, hang on, just to be, just to be equal.
8:16 Speaker 02 Hmm.
8:16 Speaker 01 Oh my god. It'll be tough, tough in Morocco.
8:19 Speaker 02 It would be.
8:20 Speaker 01 They'd like something a bit different though, which would be nice, because maybe they're used to those rides.
8:25 Speaker 02 Yeah, well, I had my ankles out, so I think that was the big interest, I was getting a lot of attention for having the ankles out. You're not allowed to have your ankles out.
8:31 Speaker 01 Really? I'm not allowed to have my ankles out, but that's a personal choice.
8:34 Speaker 02 You'd fly over there.
8:37 Speaker 02 Finally get to cover up those hideous ankles. Which have been holding you back for years.
8:41 Speaker 01 Tell us about Morocco, the first trip you've ever been on that actually, and even though you paid for it, you could have actually gone on that trip for free as a press trip because you did good pictures for the first time.
8:50 Speaker 02 I know, I did. I did good, I did good footage, I know. I've, I've kind of, I'm in my bougie era. We stayed in really, because I went with two friends who you know as well.
8:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
8:58 Speaker 02 And, um.
8:59 Speaker 01 Who booked us?
9:00 Speaker 02 When I say, it was like an ongoing joke. I was like, what's happening now? I hadn't a clue.
9:04 Speaker 01 Oh, Andrea's in charge of that. Yeah.
9:06 Speaker 02 We have a mutual friend, Andrea Horan, who owns Tropical Popcorn now in Dublin. She is, when I say, I'm type B anyway, but when someone else takes the lead, my god, do I take the foot off the gas.
9:16 Speaker 01 Oh my god, I wouldn't even, I would give her my passport in the airport and everything if I was travelling with Andrea.
9:21 Speaker 02 Well, she actually asked me at one point, she went, where's your passport? And I looked at her and I went, you have it, don't you? And she goes, I do.
9:26 Speaker 01 I went to New York with her before and she did all that stuff.
9:28 Speaker 02 It was insane. She is like a machine. She is like a logistics officer. I literally was like, what are we doing now? Where are we going?
9:34 Speaker 01 I knew you didn't book that place.
9:35 Speaker 02 Not at all. Hadn't a clue where I was going. I was just sitting at the back of a taxi, smiling, flirting with the driver. Been driven around Morocco, I hadn't a clue. We got out, we ate, we got back in. But, um, we were actually trying not to swear because Andrea had done a bit of research about the, the trip. She was like, she was the one who was like, cover your ankles, you whore.
9:53 Speaker 01 Yeah.
9:54 Speaker 02 So she was like, don't swear. Behave yourself, basically.
9:57 Speaker 01 I mean, I think it's rude to be swearing at anyone, in anyone's company. I read this thing about the Japanese. I saw, actually I saw it on Instagram. And this guy said, when you're in Japan, you're not allowed to walk around eating. So like, if you buy something off a street vendor, you have to stand there and eat it. You can't just leave and walk because it's, it's viewed as really rude.
10:12 Speaker 02 Interesting.
10:13 Speaker 01 Yeah.
10:14 Speaker 02 Japan has a lot of rules, I feel.
10:16 Speaker 01 I'm desperate to go there.
10:17 Speaker 02 I'd love to go. We should do a show there and then we can write it off.
10:19 Speaker 01 Yeah, we should do, that's, we'll just start doing shows. We want to write stuff off.
10:22 Speaker 02 Yeah, how do we write stuff off? I don't even know what that means, but let's do it.
10:28 Speaker 02 What are you doing, John? I'm writing it off.
10:30 Speaker 01 I can't write anything off. Neil looks after everything. He's like, what's this? I'm like, Neil, that's a general expense.
10:35 Speaker 02 Write it off, Neil.
10:36 Speaker 01 God.
10:37 Speaker 02 Write it off and then no one knows anything about it.
10:38 Speaker 01 No, go get the kids' school fees. Write it off. They were on the ferry ad.
10:43 Speaker 02 I was vlogging at the school. Write it off. It's a business expense.
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11:25 Speaker 02 Lot of time sitting in the rain in Morocco. There was some tensions over Uno, I think, you know, it was a lot of time sitting in the... Yeah, great game.
11:42 Speaker 01 I watched Heated Rivalry. Joanne texts me.
11:46 Speaker 01 Texts me and she said, "You have to watch it now." And I said, "But I don't have my skies down, I've just moved out." She goes, "You have to get the Now TV app." And I was like, "I'm not getting that app." And then I realised it was a tenner for the month and I could probably afford to get the app.
11:57 Speaker 02 You can write it off.
11:58 Speaker 01 I have. I have written that off. Sent on to Neil with the receipt. And she insisted that I watch it, Heated Rivalry.
12:05 Speaker 02 Well, just for anyone who hasn't watched it, for anyone who's been living under a rock, it is a TV show based on a book about some gay ice hockey players.
12:13 Speaker 01 And it is everything you would expect and more. Now, I was watching it on the plane and I had to turn my phone away from people because it is like the sex scenes are... I don't like sex noises when they're not coming from me.
12:26 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah, I know. You're like, "You'd rather everyone else stay silent."
12:30 Speaker 01 I know.
12:31 Speaker 02 And you just take it to the stage.
12:33 Speaker 01 What?
12:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
12:38 Speaker 01 It was... But the noises are so intense and it's like...
12:42 Speaker 02 Yeah. Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're...
12:44 Speaker 01 It's only six episodes, there's gonna be a second season.
12:47 Speaker 02 Yes, because the way it finished left it wide open. It's basically how kind of they're... You know, it's all about gay athletes and how, you know, a lot of them, they can't come out and then these... But what it was lovely about it was... That the sex in it was quite meaningful, like it was, I was like, I'm learning romance from two gay ice hockey players.
13:04 Speaker 01 Yeah.
13:04 Speaker 02 This was, well, not my bingo card. It was very.
13:06 Speaker 01 But I've never seen such full on gay sex scenes.
13:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
13:10 Speaker 01 They were brilliant.
13:11 Speaker 02 They were brilliant, yeah. I'd say they had a lot of intimacy coordinators and stuff, but then I, I Googled obviously the actors and they're so. Your man, the Russian guy, is so camp in real life.
13:21 Speaker 01 But they haven't come out and said if they're gay or straight.
13:23 Speaker 02 Ah, Jesus.
13:24 Speaker 01 I know, but they haven't. They said it doesn't matter what, what, what our sexuality is.
13:27 Speaker 02 I Googled all of them.
13:28 Speaker 01 Yeah, but your man Hunter is.
13:30 Speaker 02 Bi.
13:31 Speaker 01 Bi, yeah.
13:32 Speaker 02 Yeah, that scene where his partner comes down. This is a spoiler, this is a spoiler, so if you're gonna listen, don't listen to this. I'm always getting rinsed for spoiling things. And when he calls his partner down to the ice rink, I, I rewound it and I cried, Jo. I'm not ashamed to say I cried. My eyes got wet. Nothing fell down the cheeks, but the eyes got wet.
13:48 Speaker 01 I had foliage of, yeah, I was just like, this is so nice. Honestly, and then I got right back into a sex scene and I was like, Jesus.
13:55 Speaker 02 Yeah, more riding, yeah.
13:56 Speaker 01 I don't need the VPN anymore. I turned it off. I've got, I've got heated rivalry.
14:01 Speaker 02 It's brilliant.
14:02 Speaker 01 The Russian fellow's arse. Is that not the best arse you've, like, that's my dream arse for myself, like.
14:09 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, well, I guess, and he's not even a top, I was saying, he's not even a bottom, he's a top. Doesn't even need a good arse.
14:14 Speaker 01 I was trying to figure out, some of the times I was trying to figure out, were they swapping?
14:18 Speaker 02 I don't, I know, I think the, the Russian is very much the top. He was top five and then the other guy is a bit more demure, he's the bottom. Cause remember when, when the, when the, when the other guy tried to go out with a woman? And she was like, the sex is lacking. And he goes, yeah, I prefer, I prefer to be the hole rather than the peg.
14:31 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah. Oh, yeah, so he was a bottom.
14:35 Speaker 02 Oh, it's so good.
14:37 Speaker 01 Maybe you wanna be a gay man.
14:39 Speaker 02 Well, so, I did, I was thinking about this, cause I was like, am I a gay man now? And apparently it's huge with women, right? There's women around. But we're not, we're not gay men. What we are is. We're straight women, we're very attracted to the, the male physique.
14:51 Speaker 01 Yeah.
14:52 Speaker 02 And the sex is hot.
14:53 Speaker 01 The sex is really hot and they're hot.
14:55 Speaker 02 And it's a love story, they're falling in love.
14:57 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah.
14:58 Speaker 02 You know, but anyway, women are going in their droves to it, it's absolutely huge, they've blown up.
15:02 Speaker 01 I know, I cannot wait for another season. Did you see that Waterford whispers about it, there's this really funny Instagram page, Waterford whispers, and it was like, Enoch Burke should just watch heated rivalry because it might give him something else to do. He is so odd.
15:16 Speaker 02 Do you know Enoch Burke?
15:17 Speaker 01 Fucking hell. Well, oh my.
15:22 Speaker 02 I say, only the other day I was saying, the, the, the child in the middle of the whole controversy is probably graduated and a grandparent at this stage. And he's still turning up the school gates and sending himself back to prison every weekend.
15:32 Speaker 01 He is absolutely, he is unwell, that man.
15:35 Speaker 02 Do you know that he, well, yeah, it's all, it's all.
15:37 Speaker 01 I mean, he's so persistent.
15:39 Speaker 02 Yeah, but do you know he's still getting a full salary from the Department of Education?
15:43 Speaker 01 Oh.
15:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah. Enoch Burke, there was a, there was an issue in an Irish school years ago.
15:48 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:48 Speaker 02 Where the, the headmaster told Enoch Burke that there was a child at the school who was, who was non-binary and wanted to be referred to as they.
15:54 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:55 Speaker 02 The child wasn't even in Enoch's class.
15:57 Speaker 01 Yeah.
15:57 Speaker 02 And Enoch said, no, not doing it, I'm not calling the child they, them. And of course, you know the way these, these things kick off and.
16:04 Speaker 01 He took a massive stand when it actually like, he didn't need to do like.
16:08 Speaker 02 Wasn't necessary at all.
16:09 Speaker 01 Not appropriate.
16:09 Speaker 02 No, but he was saying it was, then it became about his religious rights and all this jazz. And then he just started, he was, he was let go.
16:15 Speaker 01 Yeah.
16:15 Speaker 02 He was suspended, I think, for acting the bollocks. And he's, this was years ago and he's been turning up to the school. He's been turning up to school relentlessly ever since and getting arrested repeatedly. Let it go, Enoch. Even Jesus has moved on.
16:28 Speaker 01 But you have to, that level of persistence, there's nothing I care about enough to have.
16:32 Speaker 02 I know.
16:33 Speaker 01 Jesus Christ, leave them alone. I know you're looking like a creep hanging out around the school. Go home.
16:39 Speaker 02 And his family and all, I mean, they need to.
16:40 Speaker 01 Go home and watch heated rivalry.
16:42 Speaker 02 I'll tell you, and his family are protesting with them all the time now. And what I will say to that family is if you're gonna be on TV, get a stylist. The style is lacking. Styles lacking.
16:52 Speaker 01 Well, I went back to Ireland to watch Amber on Dancing with the Stars.
16:55 Speaker 02 Tell me everything.
16:57 Speaker 01 She, she's a better dancer than me.
16:59 Speaker 02 I said to Vogue, I said, I'm gonna ring, I'm gonna text Amber and say that she's, she's done a really good job.
17:03 Speaker 01 She's setting up Sky in my room for you. I have been in that house for so long and I said to Joanne, I said, Joanne, you can go and uh, you can stay in my house when you're home for, for junior shows. And I was like, oh, I'll set up Sky for her. I'm like, you little bitch. I've been in that room for two years. You've never set up Sky for me.
17:19 Speaker 02 Cause I was wondering, do you know what this is? This is Amber trying to keep me in my room.
17:25 Speaker 02 That's exactly what that is. Cause I was like, oh, that's so.
17:27 Speaker 01 It's not, cause then she was like, does she want the apartment? Cause there's a little apartment downstairs. And I was like, I don't know, I'll ask her. I haven't really thought about this.
17:34 Speaker 02 God, thanks Amber. I can't wait to go and hang out with Amber. Um, but I said to Vogue, I was like, I'm gonna text Amber and say, congratulations, she did a really good job. Uh, cause I got quite emotional watching her now I had had a bottle of wine. And you were like, she wouldn't appreciate the lie.
17:49 Speaker 01 The first.
17:50 Speaker 02 But she's on a journey.
17:51 Speaker 01 I know. The first week she was shite. She was like the Tin Man. She wasn't good. And then she did quite well the second week. This week she didn't do as well as the week before, but I loved her dance this week. I thought she was absolutely brilliant. And she's getting up in front, cause I was in the audience this week and there's about 200 people in the audience and she's getting up and she's doing it in front of everyone. And I just thought it was so amazing. She's also still doing her full-time job.
18:11 Speaker 02 I know.
18:12 Speaker 01 She's doing the pod and then she's doing that. She's like non-stop.
18:15 Speaker 02 Yeah.
18:15 Speaker 01 Um, and.
18:16 Speaker 02 She's hustling. She's on the climb. She's on the make.
18:18 Speaker 01 She is, she is on a journey. I think she's gonna do quite well.
18:21 Speaker 02 If she's really good at the start, she'd be gone.
18:23 Speaker 01 I think people just like everyone to go on a journey though. If you're shitting, you start getting better and she's making a real effort. So. Now I did, I told her I'd go back again, but you know yourself, sitting in, I know, sitting in an audience and I had to stand up.
18:33 Speaker 02 They keep panning to you.
18:35 Speaker 01 I had to stand up about 11 times clapping for people. No, it must've been more actually, cause there's 11 people, about 15 times I had to keep standing up. And I know that sounds ridiculous, but I was wrecked.
18:42 Speaker 02 Yeah, 15 stands is a lot.
18:43 Speaker 01 15 stands and like loads of claps and everything.
18:46 Speaker 02 That's a lot of travel.
18:47 Speaker 01 I know, it was. I was bloody wrecked. And then I was like, I'll come to the next one. If you're still in that one, I'll come to that one. And now I'm like, fuck it.
18:54 Speaker 02 Uh, for, if you've ever been to a live or a TV record, there's a lot of clapping. There's a lot of clapping.
19:00 Speaker 01 Crazy. And now, what I will say is, it was a very, it was a, a, a, a quick enough record, obviously, cause it's a live show. So.
19:08 Speaker 02 I said, she leaves after her?
19:09 Speaker 01 Jennifer and Laura. Yeah, I just went home.
19:11 Speaker 02 Yeah, of course.
19:11 Speaker 01 I didn't even wait for Amber to get out of her dress. So I was like, see you later. Because I had Gina and Alzo and stuff with me. Gina flew over.
19:18 Speaker 02 Yeah, yeah, fine.
19:18 Speaker 01 Gina flew over with me. She, I got to the airport, I text her twenty to eight in the morning when I left my house in Battersea. And I was like, what are you doing? She's like, I'm sitting having a coffee and a croissant in the airport. And I was like, it's fucking early. Our flight's at ten to ten. And I got to the airport, she had gotten up at four in the morning.
19:34 Speaker 02 Why?
19:35 Speaker 01 And she got to the airport at seven. You know what people get like, like my mom is weird. I was like, Gina, you've been sitting here since seven AM. And she's like, yeah, I feel much better about that.
19:45 Speaker 02 Yeah, she's exactly like Pat. Pat, I was like, Pat, you could literally train to be a pilot, the amount of time that you're, the amount of head time you're in the airport. You could literally train and be, and fly the plane yourself. She's the exact same. She goes, she can't relax until she's in the airport. Because we travel a lot, we're, like, I'm, I'm kind of running in as they're pulling up the planks.
20:03 Speaker 01 Oh, me too. I'm just like the very last second. I also love airport people watching by the way, it's the best thing in the whole entire world.
20:09 Speaker 02 Yeah.
20:09 Speaker 01 Because obviously I had loads of time because I was sitting there with Gina. And then, of course, she put a fucking bag in for two nights. So I was like, God, now I have to like your proxy bag.
20:16 Speaker 02 Listen to this because we are going to get on to the Brooklyn Beckham drama in a second.
20:21 Speaker 02 Get, okay. One of the girls on the trip, Laura and Andrea and myself.
20:26 Speaker 01 Yeah.
20:26 Speaker 02 Guess how much my bag weighed?
20:28 Speaker 01 Twenty two kilos.
20:30 Speaker 02 Up.
20:32 Speaker 01 For how many nights?
20:32 Speaker 03 So you're beyond standard. How many nights?
20:34 Speaker 01 So you have to pay access baggage, not thirty two.
20:37 Speaker 02 Thirty two.
20:38 Speaker 01 Oh, my God.
20:40 Speaker 02 Guess how much Laura's bag weighed?
20:42 Speaker 01 Eight.
20:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, nine point three.
20:45 Speaker 02 I was like, why are you, how, how? So mine was so heavy, we had to get, I had to help the taxi man get it in.
20:53 Speaker 01 Thirty two.
20:55 Speaker 02 Was that, yeah, I'm insane.
20:57 Speaker 03 Come on.
20:58 Speaker 01 Yeah, but you'd rather just have, I did that in Spain. I, Jane Svenny's mom had a carry on and I had this massive bag. And then by the end of it, I realised I'd forgot bikinis, I'd forgot everything. Jane had literally everything. I was like, it's like this just endless sack of stuff being pulled out.
21:12 Speaker 02 Yeah, I'm terrible. I'm, I went, I went to Paris Squirt Hotel for one night, twenty kgs.
21:18 Speaker 01 What?
21:18 Speaker 02 I don't know how I do it. I think I'm so bad at decision making. It's that I, I can't risk not packing.
21:24 Speaker 01 I started to look at my stuff though, and I'm like, I don't care. And I know I'm happy too much and I'm like, I don't care. It makes me happy.
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22:32 Speaker 01 Do you know what we missed again? Two nights in a row. The Northern Knights. We missed them again. I think they're just like, I'm not that concerned anymore because they were around last year, they'll be back next year probably.
22:44 Speaker 02 Yeah, those things, they're always around.
22:47 Speaker 01 Okay. My moment, our moment has come. I know it was getting weird how much I was obsessed with it, but I don't want to say I told you so, but I told you so. And everyone is now obsessed.
23:02 Speaker 02 She hasn't said, she still hasn't said, but she's talking through.
23:04 Speaker 01 I am getting into it. It has brought us together like Covid. Someone texted me that. It's brought us, it's brought the world together like Covid.
23:11 Speaker 02 It's like the Coldplay couple. That really brought us together as well.
23:14 Speaker 01 Brooklyn Beckham, mic drop. Do we need to explain the backstory?
23:20 Speaker 02 I think we do.
23:21 Speaker 03 Just a quick previous.
23:23 Speaker 01 Okay, a quick, a quick synopsis of the backstory. The Beckhams, there has been talk of a fallout, a rift between the Beckhams. Brooklyn Beckham hasn't been seen with his parents. He didn't go to his dad's 50th. He didn't go to his mom's show. He didn't go to his dad's knighthood. Was he knighthood? He didn't go to his dad's knighthood. And there was talk of a rift. Obviously, nothing was said. Then his brother came out and said that. They, uh, people, the press said that Victoria and David had unfollowed Brooklyn, but what actually came out is Brother Cruise said that actually he blocked his mom and his dad. Then it came out.
23:55 Speaker 02 I have to intervene and say, there was stories around when he married, so.
23:59 Speaker 01 Yes.
23:59 Speaker 02 Yeah, so.
24:00 Speaker 01 So it started from that far back.
24:01 Speaker 02 Nicola married a woman called Nicola, sorry, Brooklyn married a woman called Nicola Pelts.
24:05 Speaker 01 We're just so excited.
24:07 Speaker 02 Who is, Nicola Pelts is the daughter of the Wendy Burger Man.
24:10 Speaker 01 Is that who he is?
24:11 Speaker 02 He owns Wendy's.
24:12 Speaker 01 From a billion, Wendy's is good in fairness.
24:14 Speaker 02 Do you know how much, so Brooklyn Beckham has married into money and I think the Beckhams were not expecting the prenup to go the other way, do you know what I mean? I think they were thought that whoever Brooklyn married, that they were going to be the royalty and they're not.
24:26 Speaker 01 No.
24:26 Speaker 02 And the Beckhams are an amazing brand, but the Wendy Burgers, they're like old money, do you know what I mean?
24:32 Speaker 01 I did not know it was Wendy's Burgers.
24:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, so like.
24:35 Speaker 01 Yeah, Wendy's is delicious.
24:37 Speaker 02 In the States.
24:37 Speaker 01 Have you ever had a hash brown in there?
24:40 Speaker 02 Do you know how much Daddy, Daddy Wendy's worth? So Daddy Wendy is.
24:44 Speaker 01 Daddy Wendy, sorry, I call, my friends all call vaginas Wendy's, it's just so weird.
24:48 Speaker 02 What?
24:48 Speaker 01 They're saying it all the time, yeah, we say Wendy.
24:50 Speaker 02 It's kind of cute. Um, so Daddy Wendy is, is eighty-three, okay? So Brooklyn's going to be coming into a lot of money very soon, okay? Her, and I'm not wishing death on this man.
25:02 Speaker 01 Is he looking well?
25:03 Speaker 02 He looks good for it. He looks kind of, he looks kind of old school Italian tanned man and his, and her, Nicola's mother is in her seventies. Their house alone is worth seventy-six million pounds. Like even, I don't know what the Beckhams are worth, but like the Beckhams are scum compared
25:21 Speaker 01 I remember thinking he had a lot of kids though and it concerned me for the, for
25:21 Speaker 02 to these.
25:25 Speaker 01 the sharing of the wealth. There was a lot of kids I think he has. Can you see how many kids he has? I mean, she's still going to get a fair wedge, but I was just thinking that would be annoying.
25:31 Speaker 02 Is she the only one?
25:32 Speaker 01 She couldn't be the only one, I don't think so. I thought he had a lot of kids. Maybe I'm wrong. But I remember feeling like, oh.
25:39 Speaker 02 There's still enough to go around.
25:40 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I know it's, I'd still rather the bill.
25:45 Speaker 02 You'd be assassinating them all.
25:46 Speaker 01 Yeah, I'd be like, bang.
25:48 Speaker 02 It would be poisonous.
25:48 Speaker 01 What's that, what's that, How to Kill Your Family?
25:50 Speaker 02 How to Kill Your Family, yeah.
25:52 Speaker 03 Oh no, she's got siblings.
25:54 Speaker 01 Yeah, see, no.
25:56 Speaker 03 Nicola Pelts, Brad Pelts, Will Pelts. I think there's three of them.
26:01 Speaker 01 Ah, that's okay, that's two, but I thought there was more, that's fine.
26:04 Speaker 02 But Brooklyn, do you know, Brooklyn was only born in 1999. He's 26 years of age, she is very, very young. She is 30.
26:13 Speaker 01 I only got married when I was 26 the first time.
26:15 Speaker 02 Did you?
26:16 Speaker 01 Mm. Very.
26:17 Speaker 02 God, you looked, you, you said you looked older. I meant, I meant you felt older at the time.
26:24 Speaker 03 Oh no, she's got seven siblings.
26:25 Speaker 01 Ah, you see?
26:26 Speaker 03 There's more.
26:27 Speaker 01 There goes the cash. Divided by seven, how much money does he have?
26:31 Speaker 02 She's a, he's a billionaire.
26:32 Speaker 01 But how many bills?
26:33 Speaker 02 I don't know.
26:34 Speaker 01 If it's one bill, the seven.
26:35 Speaker 02 I'm not great with numbers.
26:38 Speaker 03 Ah, it's not a lot of bills.
26:39 Speaker 01 One bill?
26:40 Speaker 03 1.6 bills.
26:41 Speaker 01 Oh, what a, jeez.
26:42 Speaker 02 Brooklyn, you didn't think this one through at all.
26:44 Speaker 01 Seven kids as well, and he's gonna have to look after the wife.
26:47 Speaker 02 Times are tight.
26:48 Speaker 03 Basically nothing.
26:49 Speaker 02 Cost of living crisis, Nicola, god love her.
26:51 Speaker 01 Jesus Christ, they're gonna have to go on the dole.
26:53 Speaker 02 She'll be doing the rail and sail around the place, no plane for her. He's very young, he's married this absolutely beautiful woman.
26:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
26:59 Speaker 02 And there was rumours of a fallout around, there was rumours of a fallout around the wedding. There was Nicola and Nicola wasn't at the, or sorry, the Beck and parents weren't at the top table. Neither were Nicola's parents though, they had their grannies at the top table.
27:11 Speaker 01 Which I think is a nice touch because, do you know what? The grannies have no partners. And I was at a wedding where the granny who had lost her husband was sitting on her own. And like, no one was really talking to her. And I was like, oh, well, I mean, she's people either side. But you know when the conversation turns and I just kept.
27:26 Speaker 02 Yeah, I know, that's horrible.
27:26 Speaker 01 And like, I was the other side of the table, so I was trying, like, you just kind of feel bad. So I didn't think there's anything wrong with that.
27:32 Speaker 02 No, and but then.
27:33 Speaker 01 Brooklyn, yes.
27:34 Speaker 02 So then, I'm just gonna explain for the back, for the background. Then, there was, there was talk of. Victoria not making Nicola's dress.
27:43 Speaker 01 Yeah.
27:43 Speaker 02 There was accusations both sides that she, Nicola, didn't want to wear the dress. Or there was suggestions that Pash didn't want to make the dress. There was rumours about a dress.
27:55 Speaker 01 Yeah.
27:55 Speaker 02 Right. And it, but like, someone's leaking these stories to the press. That was in the New York, the New Yorker.
27:59 Speaker 01 Yeah, but there, but, but there was also, let's not forget the story that came out about their wedding planners. So supposedly they had fired a couple of wedding planners as well. And they were, they were painted as being quite difficult to work with.
28:11 Speaker 02 The Pelces.
28:11 Speaker 01 The Pelces.
28:12 Speaker 02 Big time.
28:12 Speaker 01 Yeah. And Nicola in particular painted quite difficult to work with.
28:16 Speaker 02 Three wedding planners, folks. That's more than you've had. You've had two weddings.
28:19 Speaker 01 Yeah, I know, I know.
28:20 Speaker 02 Three, and they're all suing each other now. I'm thinking the Pelces are suing, the wedding planners are the wedding planners. There's some, they're all suing each other. It's not, she said, I'm not, I, I hate to say it, I hate to say it. I hate when women are accused of being difficult because I feel like if a woman asks you to turn right instead of left, if she's successful, they call her a monster.
28:36 Speaker 01 There's been, there has been some rumours about her, her hairstylist came in and said, said she is not a nice, she's, she's not a good vibe.
28:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, he said she had spooky vibes, which I'm not sure what that means.
28:45 Speaker 01 Bad vibes, bad vibes and spooky vibes. But he was saying that she's not nice. But then, okay, here's the thing about, which bit have we got to? God, this has been so exciting.
28:53 Speaker 02 So, anyway, all the rumours, blah, blah, blah, everyone's unfollowing each other, no one knows what's going on.
28:58 Speaker 01 Yeah.
28:58 Speaker 02 And then.
28:59 Speaker 01 And then, sorry, then Brooklyn basically sent his parents a legal letter to say that they needed to stop talking about him online. And it was supposedly Victoria liked a chicken video that Brooklyn had put up and that was the final straw for him. And he didn't.
29:12 Speaker 02 How dare she. What a monster.
29:13 Speaker 01 What a horrible mother.
29:14 Speaker 02 Yeah.
29:14 Speaker 01 And then he didn't want her to post or anything about it. Cut to.
29:18 Speaker 02 Brooklyn Beckham, who's never worked a day in his life. Living off the, living off, living off the Beckham dollar. I don't, I don't, has he a GCSE to his name? Has he, has he done his GCSEs? Ask that there, ask Chachi BT, has, has Brooklyn Beckham done a GCSE?
29:31 Speaker 01 So, so all this kind of came to a head, but like, everything had stopped after, after he did the blocking and all that kind of stuff, which felt like really immature behaviour to your parents. Then he drops an absolute bombshell and releases this like seven page statement where he absolutely tears into his parents.
29:49 Speaker 02 A verbal grenade, I would call it. A digital bomb.
29:52 Speaker 01 Let me just get the, the proper points up about it. Where's my drive? And now what I will say before we even start, and I always say this about people having fights. There's one story, there's their story, and then there's the truth.
30:03 Speaker 02 I'm Team Pash.
30:04 Speaker 01 Me too.
30:05 Speaker 02 I'm sorry, her perfume's sensational. I don't care if she gave her son a lap dance at his wedding. I'm not, I'm not, I'm not turning on her.
30:12 Speaker 01 He absolutely doesn't want to reconcile with his family. He said the family's relationships are inauthentic and performative. His parents have been trying to, yeah, yeah, hello. His parents have been trying to ruin his relationship with Nicola. Victoria cancelled her plans to make Nicola's wedding dress, leaving her scrambling at the last minute for a dress. The parents tried to bribe him into signing away the rights to his name. Victoria called Brooklyn evil because the way Brooklyn laid out the wedding seating, we spoke about that, about the grandparents, I think that's a lot of shit.
30:41 Speaker 02 What I would say is, like, you're not, like,
30:45 Speaker 02 Victoria Beckham did not get to where she is by being a shrinking violet.
30:49 Speaker 01 No.
30:49 Speaker 02 You have a show pony mother in a show business family. And obviously the Wendy wedding was, was an opportunity, like, she obviously felt slighted at the Wendy wedding. She's obviously struggling with the fact that her, her son is marrying, um, into so much money. I'd say she's a bit insecure about it.
31:07 Speaker 01 I think it's just mothers in general when their son is getting married.
31:10 Speaker 02 I agree.
31:11 Speaker 01 I feel like, so what he said.
31:13 Speaker 02 I can't wait to see you slut, slut drop in a Theodors wedding.
31:15 Speaker 01 I've already, the, it's a slut drop, I've had a string fellas learning my bits. I'm going to be lap dancing at that wedding.
31:23 Speaker 02 You're just humiliated.
31:24 Speaker 01 That's what he said, though. Victoria danced inappropriately on me in front of anyone. It's, sorry, he's making it sound incestuous.
31:31 Speaker 02 So basically, Marc Anthony, whose name I have not heard in a very long time, I was so confused. I was like, Marc Anthony's back? Wow. He was doing the singing. I thought he was doing a speech. I was very confused. And then in the wedding, apparently he said, it was, Brooklyn said it was supposed to be the time where he was going to dance with Nicola Pelts. And then he went up and his mother was there and Marc Anthony called her the most beautiful woman in the room. And then he said she danced on me inappropriately, which does suggest there was a lap dance or some sort of twerking involved.
31:56 Speaker 01 He said, he said she stole the first dance. The thing about it is, there's loads of different recollections of this because it was in Vogue magazine and the person writing Vogue magazine, there was a, there was a first dance and then 11 o'clock is when Marc Anthony came on and then invited Victoria onto the stage. So, it, it, does she dress sexy? She's a Spice Girl. Of course she danced, sorry, danced sexually. Like, I don't think that she's going to be, like, gyrating on her son, like.
32:22 Speaker 02 That's their thing. They're always dancing, the Brooklands. Fuck, it's wrong.
32:26 Speaker 01 The Beckhams, yeah.
32:27 Speaker 02 The Beck, they're always dancing, the Beckhams. I've seen videos of her dancing with Nicola Peltz, they're hugging each other and stuff.
32:32 Speaker 01 I mean, listen, I don't feel like any of it makes sense, but let's go back to.
32:36 Speaker 02 You basically accused your mother of coming on to you.
32:38 Speaker 01 Yeah.
32:39 Speaker 02 Like, what, what are you doing?
32:41 Speaker 01 Just, but like even the wedding dress drama, it took Valentino, by the way, talk about taking the. Yeah, but no one knows Valentino's dead because Brooklyn released this bombshell on the day of his death. I'd be absolutely, well, I mean, he's not going to know because he's dead. But I'd be raging that you stole my dead day.
32:58 Speaker 02 Yeah, I know.
32:59 Speaker 01 Especially that they were so close.
33:01 Speaker 02 It's a really nice break from World War Three though, isn't it?
33:04 Speaker 01 Trump is thrilled, he's like, this is my way in, no one will even notice.
33:09 Speaker 02 Like the way it's infiltrated, like Candace Owens is talking about it, do you know her?
33:13 Speaker 01 I know.
33:14 Speaker 02 She's like this right wing political commentator, she's the one who keeps accusing Bridget Macron of being a man. She's, I mean, she's kind of insane, but even she, she's talking about that, she's talking about it. I want, there's a, there's a Guardian podcast called, um, Today and Focus that I listen to, I listen to it sometimes, just checking what's going on in the world. They did an episode about Brooklyn Beckham, it's usually about like Iran or whatever, do you know what I mean?
33:34 Speaker 01 Oh my, it's, it's, it's just, I did it on the rain today, that was our chat.
33:38 Speaker 02 Yeah.
33:38 Speaker 01 But I, so there's so many conflicting stories because the thing I told you about DJ Fat Tony, DJ Fat Tony was a DJ at the wedding. And he is obviously, you'll probably know him if you live over here, and his husband commented, I was at the wedding and what Brooklyn is saying is true. And then he quickly deleted it, but it went everywhere. So, I mean.
33:59 Speaker 02 Firstly, ungrateful wedding guest.
34:02 Speaker 01 And secondly, you will not be invited to any, well, you can go to the, I'd, listen, I'm just team Beckham.
34:07 Speaker 02 TJ Fat Tony.
34:08 Speaker 01 Not just because I want to be part of their family, it's, I just think.
34:10 Speaker 02 If my, if my partner, husband, I'm not sure if they're married, got, stuck their nose in, in the Beckham controversy online when they're at the wedding, I wouldn't be too happy, I'd say DJ Fat Tony's.
34:22 Speaker 01 I mean, I just find-
34:24 Speaker 02 Is everyone drunk online? Is that what's happening? Is Beckham, when I saw Brooklyn's post, I was like-
34:27 Speaker 01 I think everyone just got so excited when they saw it because it was just like, oh my god.
34:32 Speaker 02 Was he drunk? Did he wake up and not remember? Did he wake up and think with all the traction? He's like, oh, that cat video is doing really well and then realised he'd done this kind of outpouring.
34:39 Speaker 01 I don't think he realised it would like catch on as quickly as it did. But everyone is looking for any kind of truth through it. Now, the only people who have this video are Brooklyn and Nicola. So if you really, but I, I, I think Brooklyn is gonna, it's like when you just drop a bomb in a room and you leg it. I think he's gonna do that. I don't think the Beckhams are gonna come back and say anything. Because I think, I think if they put out any statement, it will be something like the door is always open.
35:02 Speaker 02 Brooklyn, so David has said something about it.
35:04 Speaker 01 It wasn't really about that. It was a very general question in an interview.
35:09 Speaker 02 So I think it was, it's kind of been read as him saying, he's like, kids online, basically, kids make mistakes and you have to let them make their mistakes.
35:17 Speaker 01 Yeah, but I mean, I just, it's like, it's, it's just, it's like Prince Harry. Whatever is going on in your life with your family, you do not need to completely annihilate them like he did.
35:28 Speaker 02 Imagine your little sister and all, Harper.
35:30 Speaker 01 Well, supposedly he doesn't speak to any of them. He speaks to his grandparents. It's such a shame because like, that's your parents, that's your family. You should, like, you only get one family and yes, you're married to her and obviously like, he, he did say that like he had such bad anxiety growing up, overwhelming. And since he stepped away from the Beckhams, the anxiety has gone. If you have anxiety, it doesn't go away. Anxiety is something that gets managed. So you can't blame all of your life's anxiety on being part of brand Beckham. When you enjoyed being part of brand Beckham for such a long time.
36:00 Speaker 02 He was like, I was forced to turn up to family events and smile. Yeah, I'm doing that with no inheritance. Do you know what I mean? I'm doing that for free, Brooklyn.
36:07 Speaker 01 At least you're going to good places, for fuck's sake.
36:10 Speaker 02 I know. I'm going to christenings and there's not a penny to be had in the family.
36:15 Speaker 01 I have to go sit in a church for an hour and a half at their proxy wedding.
36:17 Speaker 02 I, I mean, I do understand that if I married Mr. Nando, it probably would give me a deluded sense of importance and confidence. Or one of the five guys. Imagine I married one of the five guys.
36:31 Speaker 02 FYI, I have shows to sell. I have Brighton, Liverpool, Manchester and Leeds. Also have Australian dates, Perth, Sydney, Melbourne and Brisbane.
36:40 Speaker 01 Also the Three Arena on the 12th of December of this year.
36:44 Speaker 02 This year in Vogue. I will be there.
36:46 Speaker 01 I will be performing.
36:47 Speaker 02 Front and back. Vogue opening.
36:51 Speaker 01 Can I also say that this was very much thought through and I'd say that the Beckhams knew that this was coming. There's no way they didn't know this was coming.
36:57 Speaker 02 Do you reckon?
36:58 Speaker 01 Yeah, 100% they would know. And with the trademark thing, by the way, remember he said that they tried to get me to remove my name from the trademark. The thing behind that, everyone's deep diving into it. David Beckham trademarked his name in 2000, Victoria Beckham 2002. They trademarked their children's names in 2017, only to protect them. And then it was around, they sold half of their ventures, it's DV Ventures or something it's called, for 200 million. And to protect their children from them using their name because it's not just owned by them now. That's why they did it, not because they didn't want Brooklyn using the name.
37:31 Speaker 02 He's not really like, Brooklyn, you're really haven't thought this through. This is a massive mistake.
37:36 Speaker 01 And like, how do you come, like you can kind of see Prince Harry.
37:40 Speaker 02 Crawling around, sniffing around, isn't he?
37:42 Speaker 01 He's crawling around.
37:44 Speaker 02 Prince Harry sniffing around, love him, isn't he?
37:45 Speaker 01 Trying to get back.
37:47 Speaker 02 Fancy seeing you here.
37:48 Speaker 01 How do you go, how do you just hang out with you? Like, fair enough, the parents will probably be able to, like, David and Victoria will probably be able to forgive him. But if I was his brother or sister, I'd be like, you are.
37:57 Speaker 02 He's young, he is young.
38:00 Speaker 01 You can't blame it on his age and also he could be getting influenced.
38:04 Speaker 02 He's young and moneyed and he's spoilt really, to be honest. And like, they, in fairness, they've supported all his weird crafts, like his sandwiches and his photography. And to rinse your, like, oh, you fucking, imagine I did that to Pat.
38:16 Speaker 01 She would drag you by the ears into the house. Drag you by the ears.
38:21 Speaker 02 She'd be over to the Wendy's house in minutes. She'd have me out, she'd spank me in the garden. I feel very sorry for everyone involved.
38:28 Speaker 01 I know, but I actually, I, do you know what, someone commented on my Instagram post that I did and they were like, oh god, it's just like Meghan, those women turning these men again. And it's like, no, no, no, no, no. These are grown up men and they're making their own decisions. You cannot just blame the family. But I'd say, I'd say she did want him to stick up for her.
38:46 Speaker 02 Well, she, so apparently she went out with one of the Hadids, the boy. And when she was going out with him, he didn't speak to his family either.
38:53 Speaker 01 Stop.
38:54 Speaker 02 So I don't know what she's doing. And I, I do think she, I think he was, I think he's quite, he's probably quite suggestible. I mean, she's absolutely stunning. She's insanely wealthy. Like, he's done very well. And he, he's a good, he's a catch too. He has lost track of himself. He has lost the run of himself completely. And his complaints are not family cutting off worthy complaints. This is that cut culture I'm telling you about. Everyone's cutting off their families.
39:20 Speaker 01 It's just babyish bullshit. Like, hop on your, this is literally the, like, like, just get an absolute grip and just get a hold of yourself. It just, it's such, it stinks of just spoiled brat.
39:34 Speaker 02 That's one of those things you're like, oh, I'm so glad, like, my notes section is full of shit I never posted and every morning I wake up grateful. Do you know what I mean?
39:42 Speaker 01 And you feel so much better.
39:43 Speaker 02 Like, oh my god, I thank god I didn't post that. What was I thinking? Or thank god I didn't send that text. Do you know what I mean? Now, I don't mind, I do like, sometimes I will have a glass of wine and send a couple of awkward emails that I've been putting off. But I, so I don't know how much wine he had to make himself do that. Has his followers gone up?
39:59 Speaker 01 A goblet, a goblet of wine. Yeah, have they gone up? He's got fifteen million. It's fifteen million.
40:05 Speaker 02 What?
40:05 Speaker 01 And I mean, what an opportunity waste. I saw Josh Whittaker posting about it and he was like, Brooklyn must be thinking, Jesus, this, I really should have main paged this.
40:17 Speaker 02 I saw someone, someone was saying about posh dancing. They're like, well, at least she didn't sing, which I thought was unfair because I am team posh.
40:24 Speaker 01 I, I sent that one to you today where someone was like, David was really upset when I read Brooklyn's statement to him because.
40:33 Speaker 02 That's funny.
40:34 Speaker 01 There is some very good internet memes. But I don't, I love Victoria Beckham and she just had that, I feel sorry for them, like, like, can you imagine how sad they are as parents, sitting at home, being like, I can't believe he did that to us.
40:47 Speaker 02 I know. You think you're, you, you, he was their first born, you have a kid, you, you, you pay for everything, you raise them right, they have a lovely life, and then they cut you off publicly. Like, it's kind of worst case scenario, really.
40:59 Speaker 01 I feel like sometimes, I think, and I, I'm a strong advocate for therapy. I think sometimes maybe, like, you can speak to a therapist for so long that they can kind of turn you against people sometimes, and they can make you think of things that, like, you're going through a situation so much that they're kind of planting things in your head. I just don't know. I don't know if it's.
41:19 Speaker 02 I think this is, this, do you know what, this, this reeks of him leaning a bit too heavy on Chat G P T. Chat G P T is very agreeable. Like, I've asked it questions that it should not agree to, and it's, it's like, yeah, sure, you should totally do that thing.
41:31 Speaker 01 Chat G P T, has, well, McNally ever looked better? No, thank you.
41:34 Speaker 02 Yeah, that's the kind of, it's kind of people pleasing. And I feel like a real therapist would never suggest someone cuts off their family.
41:40 Speaker 01 I mean, it's just, but he'll regret that. There's no way he won't regret that because, like, when he has kids and stuff like that, and, and not being able, like, I, I keep going back to Christmas because our Christmas just looks so perfect in that house of theirs. And I'm like, having their little kid running around with, like, his nice family and all that.
41:56 Speaker 02 He's talking about this performative thing, right? Now, Brooklyn, I don't know if you, I don't know if you know this, but every family is performing at times, do you know what I mean? Like, there are, do you know? My family could have been killing each other in Lanzarote, but our family photo looks stunning.
42:07 Speaker 01 Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
42:08 Speaker 02 But we, everyone puts their best foot forward. But when he's talking about the performative, so, I don't, I'm gonna say it. Word on the street is, their, their marriage is, you know, a little open.
42:18 Speaker 01 Allegedly.
42:19 Speaker 02 Allegedly. But I think that's what he's talking about, this performative thing. It's like, loads of marriages are open, and they just get on with things because they're a brand. You know what I mean?
42:28 Speaker 01 I genuinely think they really love each other. Like, you see their, they have such a great time together. I just, let's, like, well, let's watch this.
42:35 Speaker 02 Dancing at the end, riding in the street.
42:37 Speaker 01 We might have to do a little update during the week. We're recording this on a Tuesday, Wednesday. God knows what's gonna happen by Friday morning.
42:43 Speaker 02 Did he take, can I, is it, can I just ask for clarity, Joan? You're, you're our fact checker here. Has he delete, did he delete the stories? Did he let them sit there for the 24 hours?
42:51 Speaker 01 Yeah, 24 hours.
42:52 Speaker 02 Oh, he left them up?
42:53 Speaker 01 I'd be surprised if he doesn't hit up the main grid. That would, honestly, it would do so well.
42:56 Speaker 02 Do so well. He's, that's pistols at dawn. He left up for the whole 24 hours.
43:02 Speaker 01 That's that.
43:03 Speaker 02 That news travelled incredibly fast.
43:05 Speaker 01 Well, Victoria did post a little tribute to Emma Bunton, saying happy birthday. So it looks like they're trying to carry on as normal.
43:12 Speaker 02 Well, you would, wouldn't you?
43:13 Speaker 01 Yeah, and Cruz posted being in the studio, so.
43:17 Speaker 03 Never explain, never complain.
43:19 Speaker 02 That's it, yeah, that's what Kate Maskey's about.
43:21 Speaker 01 Oh, I just feel like a weight's been lifted off my shoulders there. I just couldn't wait to come in and talk to you because obviously Joanna and I can't talk about things until we come in here.
43:29 Speaker 02 Put them on. I, I of course reshared something from Emma Bunton's account. I was like, look at the girls rallying for Victoria. And then everyone was like, Joanna, that's not her real account, it's a phone account.
43:42 Speaker 03 That's checky.
43:43 Speaker 02 Yeah, I was like, unless Jo's there to tell me it's not true, I really have no idea what's going on. Yeah, Rebecca Lou's getting involved and she's like, the truth always comes out.
43:52 Speaker 01 She's like that troll under the bridge, she just keeps coming back out with the big ego. She's like, me, it's like, stop.
43:57 Speaker 02 It's like Rebecca, obviously you don't like Victoria, obviously you think she's a bitch. You're out her husband. She's hardly going to be taking you for bubbles and a massage.
44:04 Speaker 01 But it's like, every time something like this happens, she's like, ha. Do you know what I mean? She comes out just to go, ha.
44:08 Speaker 02 That's so true. She's like, tell yourself.
44:12 Speaker 02 It's like, I don't think, I don't imagine you're going to be getting the best sides of the Beckham's when you sold a story that you wrote, David.
44:17 Speaker 01 And I mean, there's nobody that is more happy that Brooklyn Beckham has released a statement than, other than Stephen Bartlett, because the heat has been, well, it's really taken off him, but we are going to touch base on that next week.
44:27 Speaker 02 Yeah, we're going to touch base on him for sure.
44:30 Speaker 01 Yeah, Joanna, should society intervene for fuck's sake?
44:34 Speaker 02 What in the handmade dial is this shit?
44:41 Speaker 02 That's it for this week. Thanks for listening.
44:43 Speaker 01 And we are on a break. We only found out today.
44:46 Speaker 02 We have a, we've a, we've a.
44:48 Speaker 03 Bonus next Wednesday.
44:48 Speaker 01 We have a bonus next Wednesday, but we're just pre-warning. It's a two week break and then we'll be back again.
44:53 Speaker 02 And the bonus will be basically about Stephen Bartlett.
44:56 Speaker 01 Yeah.
44:57 Speaker 02 And Chris Williamson, bar of idiots.
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